All of these were taken on July 18th, 2011

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phosto[2] (http://www.flickr.com/photos/up121/6308188554/) by up121 (http://www.flickr.com/people/up121/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6054/6308188506_a2d9fe1320_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/up121/6308188506/)
phoccto[4] (http://www.flickr.com/photos/up121/6308188506/) by up121 (http://www.flickr.com/people/up121/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6060/6308188426_be00c146fa_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/up121/6308188426/)
phsoto[4] (http://www.flickr.com/photos/up121/6308188426/) by up121 (http://www.flickr.com/people/up121/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6212/6308188372_4108055d25_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/up121/6308188372/)
phsoto[2] (http://www.flickr.com/photos/up121/6308188372/) by up121 (http://www.flickr.com/people/up121/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6097/6307666187_0e28d37724_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/up121/6307666187/)
phosto[9] (http://www.flickr.com/photos/up121/6307666187/) by up121 (http://www.flickr.com/people/up121/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6034/6307666145_3dfcd5d73e_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/up121/6307666145/)
psshoto[3] (http://www.flickr.com/photos/up121/6307666145/) by up121 (http://www.flickr.com/people/up121/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6117/6307666057_9cb21f3533_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/up121/6307666057/)
phsotso[8] (http://www.flickr.com/photos/up121/6307666057/) by up121 (http://www.flickr.com/people/up121/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6034/6307665981_de7bbd7aae_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/up121/6307665981/)
photccco[6] (http://www.flickr.com/photos/up121/6307665981/) by up121 (http://www.flickr.com/people/up121/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6056/6307665895_ce35528130_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/up121/6307665895/)
phodsto[6] (http://www.flickr.com/photos/up121/6307665895/) by up121 (http://www.flickr.com/people/up121/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6046/6308187960_152c5e59b8_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/up121/6308187960/)
phossto[8] (http://www.flickr.com/photos/up121/6308187960/) by up121 (http://www.flickr.com/people/up121/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6105/6307665699_7bcfc93bee_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/up121/6307665699/)
phccoto[5] (http://www.flickr.com/photos/up121/6307665699/) by up121 (http://www.flickr.com/people/up121/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6060/6308187730_23da9163bc_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/up121/6308187730/)
phsssoto[2] (http://www.flickr.com/photos/up121/6308187730/) by up121 (http://www.flickr.com/people/up121/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6120/6308187656_1706948306_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/up121/6308187656/)
s[5] (http://www.flickr.com/photos/up121/6308187656/) by up121 (http://www.flickr.com/people/up121/), on Flickr

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sphoto[7] (http://www.flickr.com/photos/up121/6308187574/) by up121 (http://www.flickr.com/people/up121/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6230/6308187516_72b38a2c38_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/up121/6308187516/)
phssoto[10] (http://www.flickr.com/photos/up121/6308187516/) by up121 (http://www.flickr.com/people/up121/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6093/6308187440_034e65d4c6_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/up121/6308187440/)
phsoto[6] (http://www.flickr.com/photos/up121/6308187440/) by up121 (http://www.flickr.com/people/up121/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6040/6308187392_86e57f70a1_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/up121/6308187392/)
pcchoto[7] (http://www.flickr.com/photos/up121/6308187392/) by up121 (http://www.flickr.com/people/up121/), on Flickr

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phosto[6] (http://www.flickr.com/photos/up121/6308187312/) by up121 (http://www.flickr.com/people/up121/), on Flickr

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phosdto[1] (http://www.flickr.com/photos/up121/6308187262/) by up121 (http://www.flickr.com/people/up121/), on Flickr

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photso[3] (http://www.flickr.com/photos/up121/6308187202/) by up121 (http://www.flickr.com/people/up121/), on Flickr

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phsssoto[4] (http://www.flickr.com/photos/up121/6308187154/) by up121 (http://www.flickr.com/people/up121/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6046/6307664933_9bc526c85c_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/up121/6307664933/)
phosto[4] (http://www.flickr.com/photos/up121/6307664933/) by up121 (http://www.flickr.com/people/up121/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6117/6308186998_875ae5797f_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/up121/6308186998/)
phosto[7] (http://www.flickr.com/photos/up121/6308186998/) by up121 (http://www.flickr.com/people/up121/), on Flickr

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phsoto[7] (http://www.flickr.com/photos/up121/6308186942/) by up121 (http://www.flickr.com/people/up121/), on Flickr

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photsso[2] (http://www.flickr.com/photos/up121/6307664757/) by up121 (http://www.flickr.com/people/up121/), on Flickr

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phosto[1] (http://www.flickr.com/photos/up121/6308186830/) by up121 (http://www.flickr.com/people/up121/), on Flickr

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phsoto[1] (http://www.flickr.com/photos/up121/6308186796/) by up121 (http://www.flickr.com/people/up121/), on Flickr

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phsoto[9] (http://www.flickr.com/photos/up121/6307664613/) by up121 (http://www.flickr.com/people/up121/), on Flickr

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phssssoto[5] (http://www.flickr.com/photos/up121/6307664567/) by up121 (http://www.flickr.com/people/up121/), on Flickr

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phccoto[8] (http://www.flickr.com/photos/up121/6307664483/) by up121 (http://www.flickr.com/people/up121/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6219/6307664385_830a0ac335_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/up121/6307664385/)
phoccto[3] (http://www.flickr.com/photos/up121/6307664385/) by up121 (http://www.flickr.com/people/up121/), on Flickr

^Amazing pictures

wow, great pictures

Thanks :tyty: And comparing the old WTC to the new WTC is a good idea. Here is what I just made:

Roof height used below!

http://i44.tinypic.com/23rl5oo.jpg

This diagram is updated with today's height jump of 4WTC. It looks like now it has approximately 227 meters or 742 feet but as Spectre said in the 4WTC thread, it is still questionable whether it's the steel for the 2 trapezoid office floors or it's still an oversized last non-trapezoid mechanical floor steel so this data is still questionable :cheers:

Btw, msl1, I'm using roof height in my diagrams so the buildings are in the correct order according to that :cheers:

That means that in terms of height, the new WTC will have the same impact on the skyline as the old one? Just that it will be a single building coupled with shorter ones, rather than two 400m's?

Yup, that's Libeskind masterplan, density distributed in 5 skyscrapers.

hey guys. here are some photos i took last weekend while visiting. enjoy!

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6110/6311114478_9f8f5af1c6_b.jpg

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6214/6310593329_0f83f44b2d_b.jpg

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6115/6311112284_e53621bd10_b.jpg

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6217/6310592261_0daa19da6a_b.jpg

November 3rd, 2011

http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy281/DKNY621/IMG_0685.jpg

I'm not going to repost them, but those black and white shots were fabulous. Turn back the clock 75 years, and it could be those guy's great-granddads putting up the ESB. Timeless!

Every construction worker in those photos is buff. I guess it must be from all that lifting and torquing.

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6056/6307665895_ce35528130_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/up121/6307665895/)
phodsto[6] (http://www.flickr.com/photos/up121/6307665895/) by up121 (http://www.flickr.com/people/up121/), on Flickr

Freaking sweet!

Before and after :
http://i.picoodle.com/3daiqihd.jpg

Credits to the photographer of the first shot (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kromoviz/6303459994/).

@Kanto

Thank you for the diagram, looks great.

I was yesterday in Ground Zero. Wooow. It looks amazing. I can't wait to finish it.

you mean you were at the World Trade Center, right?

please, NO MORE "Ground Zero"!!!!:ohno::ohno::bash:

Yup, that's Libeskind masterplan, density distributed in 5 skyscrapers.

That's why I hate Libeskind so much :gaah:

Btw, time for more pics :cheer:

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6155/6248985716_ef2d8fbd95_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/28005963@N06/6248985716/)
Skyline family portrait: 1 WTC, 7 WTC and 4 WTC (http://www.flickr.com/photos/28005963@N06/6248985716/) by rolando.pujol (http://www.flickr.com/people/28005963@N06/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6106/6296929576_b614c0cf0b_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/joelicastaneda/6296929576/)
East River Ferry (http://www.flickr.com/photos/joelicastaneda/6296929576/) by JoelICastaneda (http://www.flickr.com/people/joelicastaneda/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6036/6296402395_be137a6841_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/joelicastaneda/6296402395/)
Secure (http://www.flickr.com/photos/joelicastaneda/6296402395/) by JoelICastaneda (http://www.flickr.com/people/joelicastaneda/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6211/6300267757_66aa5e4485_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/52836039@N02/6300267757/)
East River Ferry 1 (P1290365_6_7_tonemapped) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/52836039@N02/6300267757/) by michael.2999.pics (http://www.flickr.com/people/52836039@N02/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6038/6307188475_f418cfc4cf_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jag9889/6307188475/)
One World Trade Center Construction Site, New York City (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jag9889/6307188475/) by jag9889 (http://www.flickr.com/people/jag9889/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6116/6310303746_69383a691b_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/joshuamarks/6310303746/)
One World Trade Center (http://www.flickr.com/photos/joshuamarks/6310303746/) by jmarks09 (http://www.flickr.com/people/joshuamarks/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6034/6310136455_6e463c2c10_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/brom-productions/6310136455/)
Memorial Construction. (http://www.flickr.com/photos/brom-productions/6310136455/) by JM Lobert (http://www.flickr.com/people/brom-productions/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6103/6311236280_706a552b51_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/eurospec27/6311236280/)
10 Years Later, America Is Rising. (http://www.flickr.com/photos/eurospec27/6311236280/) by EuroSpec27 (http://www.flickr.com/people/eurospec27/), on Flickr

And for the end, here is the PA cam :cheer:

http://oxblue.com/archive/487d07189e5fd2b7edce94fc0bcf4b68/800x600.jpg

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6228/6311240339_c7da2edd35_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/49331107@N03/6311240339/)
Manhattan Skyline (http://www.flickr.com/photos/49331107@N03/6311240339/) by Stupidboypike1 (http://www.flickr.com/people/49331107@N03/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6238/6310215758_9368607e5e_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/glenwilliams/6310215758/)
GW20111030_11.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/glenwilliams/6310215758/) by Glen Williams (http://www.flickr.com/people/glenwilliams/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6096/6310485418_f0040f1e01_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/13422708@N08/6310485418/)
Manhattan Skyline (http://www.flickr.com/photos/13422708@N08/6310485418/) by louise.haigh (http://www.flickr.com/people/13422708@N08/), on Flickr

Does anyone else think that 2nd to last image looks a lot like the old 1WTC like a smaller version, and the cranes being up right makes it look like a spire?

^^ Yes, you see that in a lot of pictures.

One very solid-looking monolith.

I'm kinda puzzled, iirc they always started new floors with perimeter columns but now they're starting them with core columns even though floors 87 and 88 should still be normal office floors :dunno:

why don't they use concrete around the steel columns to enforce them? that would be much more safer if a fire would start like in the former twin towers

why don't they use concrete around the steel columns to enforce them? that would be much more safer if a fire would start like in the former twin towers

Core columns get encased in extra-strong concrete, varying from 8,000psi to 14,000psi. Perimeter columns must face wind load, rather than gravity load. That's one of the many reasons why they don't get encased into concrete. Perimeter, floor & filler beams get a spray fireproofing. :okay:

psi=pounds per square inch

I'm kinda puzzled, iirc they always started new floors with perimeter columns but now they're starting them with core columns even though floors 87 and 88 should still be normal office floors :dunno:

They almost always start new floors with the core first!

1 World Trade gets its glass pedestal
After months of effort, and one failed plan, architect devises an appealing skin for 185-foot-tall, fortified-concrete base of New York's tallest building-to-be.

By Theresa Agovino
November 4, 2011 10:08 a.m.

Updated: November 4, 2011 10:39 a.m.

The architect of 1 World Trade Center has finally devised a way to clad the concrete base of the tower in shimmery glass. The breakthrough comes after technical problems forced designers to abandon an earlier glass-sheathing plan last spring, sources said.
Architect David Childs had wanted to encase the 185-foot-tall base in prismatic glass panels to disguise the thick, windowless fortified concrete that is one of the tower's signature safety elements. The idea was to have it not look like a bunker. The massive concrete base means that office space in the 1,776-foot tower doesn't start until the 20th floor. The challenge then was to create a facade that suggested movement, life and light where none existed. However, the panels of prismatic glass, which were designed to reflect light, were not only difficult to make: As it turned out, they also shattered easily.

Now, sources said the base will be covered with glass louvers that are set at different angles on the base and lit from behind, creating an inviting atmosphere that would also reflect the nearby memorial honoring the victims of the Sept. 11 attacks. The glass is treated so it would pebble instead of shatter in case of an explosion, much like a car windshield does in a severe accident.

Sources said the building's majority owner, the Port Authority of New York & New Jersey, has already received bids for what sources said would be about $45 million in glass. The Port Authority's board is to be briefed on the plans and bids in the next two weeks. A spokesman for the Port Authority declined comment. Mr. Childs didn't return a call.
In 2008, the Port Authority awarded an $82 million contract to manufacture and put up the glass, but it was unclear how much of that money was ever dispersed.
The dilemma over the glass is just the latest design challenge for a building that has to be among the safest in the world because of its allure as a potential terrorist target. Yet at the same time it must be distinctive enough to symbolize the city's rebound from tragedy. In an interview with Crain's earlier this year, Mr. Childs, a consulting design partner at Skidmore Owings & Merrill, said, “It had to be a proud gesture to our resilience.”

Mr. Childs had to redesign the building back in 2005 when the New York Police Department voiced concerned about whether the tower could withstand a blast from a car bomb. A year later, Mr. Childs presented the plan with the glass-wrapped concrete base.


Read more: http://www.crainsnewyork.com/article/20111104/REAL_ESTATE/111109949#ixzz1clx7kQz5

I can't wait to see the podium glass. It sounds very interesting. I hope it isn't too over the top (color/brightness-wise). After all, they are right next to a Memorial. No need to turn the area into Times Square.

^^ So does this mean they might start putting it on soon?

I can't wait to see the podium glass. It sounds very interesting. I hope it isn't too over the top (color/brightness-wise). After all, they are right next to a Memorial. No need to turn the area into Times Square.

+1

Some of the most recently posted photos are just amazing. I am enthralled by the progress this tower is making and the elegance of the structure. It is great ... I just love looking at those photos. Thanks for posting them. When I study the photos I am (almost) inspired to drool!!! :drool:

Some of the most recently posted photos are just amazing. I am enthralled by the progress this tower is making and the elegance of the structure. It is great ... I just love looking at those photos. Thanks for posting them. When I study the photos I am (almost) inspired to masturbate!!! :lol:

Well that's definitely something I didn't need to know about.

Well that's definitely something I didn't need to know about.

Go Patrick!

The news that Dino posted reminds me of an image from the New York Times.

http://i.picoodle.com/892ipi79.jpg

Well that's definitely something I didn't need to know about.

Then you might want to change the little blurb thingie under your username:

"1 WTC = S.E.X"

Then you might want to change the little blurb thingie under your username:

"1 WTC = S.E.X"

It's not like he's off telling people that he wants to masturbate to the photos.

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6035/6313981574_be1956faa8_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/flashdot/6313981574/)
Construction (http://www.flickr.com/photos/flashdot/6313981574/) by flashdot (http://www.flickr.com/people/flashdot/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6102/6307880780_dd8a337c91_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/klnyc/6307880780/)
Freedom Tower (http://www.flickr.com/photos/klnyc/6307880780/) by KLnyc (http://www.flickr.com/people/klnyc/), on Flickr

All photos below by Rep Jeff Duncan (http://www.flickr.com/photos/repjeffduncan/)
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Wow! Very nice photo.

Its does make you want to put you're hand down your pants and having a little play

ROFLMAO, this thread is starting to look like a thread about handparties :hilarious

ERRRRRRRRRRRRRM... this is a very cool project, and the building looks great :) it still seems to be rising fast!
but im not really willing to masturbate over... that thought doesnt even enter my mind... :') LMAO

Its does make you want to put you're hand down your pants and having a little play

I hope your 'it' doesnt refer to one of those construction workers mayne :ohno:


WTC comin up beautiful!

It's not like he's off telling people that he wants to masturbate to the photos.

Right! When I wrote that, I meant that the building is just something awesome, not even related to actual erotic stuff.

I hope your 'it' doesnt refer to one of those construction workers mayne :ohno:

WTC comin up beautiful!

Sometimes we do have people stopping by to let us know how cute the construction workers are, so who knows :lol:

A few minutes ago from the Staten Island Ferry.

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k199/fordgtman1992/1WTCstaten.jpg

September 15th, 2010 from the Ferry:

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k199/fordgtman1992/58632_510075892905_124400079_30340783_1499201_n.jpg

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6053/6314484361_b8019a303c_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dailym/6314484361/)
One World Trade Center from Soho New York (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dailym/6314484361/) by DailyM = Differentieel + JeeeM (http://www.flickr.com/people/dailym/), on Flickr

...

The world shall now see one of the many reasons I like Tower 1.

http://i.picoodle.com/a3fiqq8z.jpg

http://www.crainsnewyork.com/article/20111104/REAL_ESTATE/111109949

Hey folks, time for more pics :cheer:

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6234/6316213489_8b923ab54b_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/71044454@N00/6316213489/)
10-28-2011 Freedom Tower Lint (http://www.flickr.com/photos/71044454@N00/6316213489/) by Jim Lillis (http://www.flickr.com/people/71044454@N00/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6224/6316943253_7124899517_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/reportermene/6316943253/)
Sunset over Manhattan (http://www.flickr.com/photos/reportermene/6316943253/) by ReporterMene (http://www.flickr.com/people/reportermene/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6031/6316775229_8fc16894c2_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/peet/6316775229/)
Manhattan (http://www.flickr.com/photos/peet/6316775229/) by PeetThePhotographer (http://www.flickr.com/people/peet/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6240/6317294792_e560af472d_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/peet/6317294792/)
Manhattan (http://www.flickr.com/photos/peet/6317294792/) by PeetThePhotographer (http://www.flickr.com/people/peet/), on Flickr

And the PA cam for the end :cheer:

http://oxblue.com/archive/487d07189e5fd2b7edce94fc0bcf4b68/800x600.jpg

I hope your 'it' doesnt refer to one of those construction workers mayne :ohno:

Well... they do look very... manly. :naughty:


http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6093/6308187440_034e65d4c6_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/up121/6308187440/)
phsoto[6] (http://www.flickr.com/photos/up121/6308187440/) by up121 (http://www.flickr.com/people/up121/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6040/6308187392_86e57f70a1_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/up121/6308187392/)
pcchoto[7] (http://www.flickr.com/photos/up121/6308187392/) by up121 (http://www.flickr.com/people/up121/), on Flickr

Tectonic, WNY..

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http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/1679/dsc2333sn.jpg

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Saturday Nov 5, 2011

http://i42.tinypic.com/zivsww.jpg

http://i43.tinypic.com/14y0ink.jpg

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That video looks very German/Dutch (sorry, can't tell the difference between the two languages).

^
That video looks very German/Dutch (sorry, can't tell the difference between the two languages).

It's Dutch :)

DJ's from the most popular Dutch radio station's Radio 538 afternoonshow did a NY week last week and they're still in NY for a few more days (to do the marathon today).

one i made this spring. big it is :)
Big picture

Is that your cat in that cage?

The world shall now see one of the many reasons I like Tower 1.

http://i.picoodle.com/a3fiqq8z.jpg

It really does look like the North Tower. Amazing. Now if I could get my office on the 99th floor again :cheers:

^^Oh, did you work in the old WTC?

Well... they do look very... manly. :naughty:

:lol: :hilarious

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6107/6316222583_45383620ed_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mjstewart/6316222583/)
IMG_0817 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mjstewart/6316222583/) by mjpeacecorps (http://www.flickr.com/people/mjstewart/), on Flickr

^^Oh, did you work in the old WTC?

I worked on the 99th floor of the North Tower from November 1997 to well, September 2001. I was 20 years old, and started out as an IT Intern for Marsh McLennan, then became a permanent employee (desktop support) in August 1998. My cubicle was in the northwest corner of the building, overlooking 7WTC and the Westside Highway.

I was off work the week of 9/11, went to my dad's Navy retirement ceremony in California. From what I understand, my floor was in the impact zone, and if I had been there that day, I would have been wiped out by the jet impact.

I won't get into too much detail, but most of my colleagues and friends were lost that day, wonderful people who I'll never forget. Still can't wrap my head around the events of that horrible day.

^^ WOW, That's what I call a coincidence!
Exactly at this day, you weren't at your workplace. But horrible, what happened to your friends... But lets talk about some other things, I don't wanna put anything in the mental microwave and warm them up...

But I'm sure you had a great view about NYC.

But I'm sure you had a great view about NYC.

The windows were a little too narrow for great views, but the views were good nonetheless. Especially on days when it was foggy; I was high enough in the building that you could look out on such a morning and see nothing but a blanket of fog for miles and miles.

I do have some photographs of my office, the people, and the views; I will share them once I can get access to a decent scanner.

^^ WOW, That's what I call a coincidence!
Exactly at this day, you weren't at your workplace. But horrible, what happened to your friends... But lets talk about some other things, I don't wanna put anything in the mental microwave and warm them up...

I'm to the point where it still affects me, but I can talk about it without getting emotional. Part of the healing process was me leaving the company (and New York) in January 2002 and returning to my hometown of San Diego. I'm toying with the idea of moving back to NYC and getting my old job back with MMC.

Ok, I understand...Well I hope you are going to find find the photos of the view.
It's a shame, that there aren't more photos in the web, which are taken from there.

Ok, I understand...Well I hope you are going to find find the photos of the view.
It's a shame, that there aren't more photos in the web, which are taken from there.

I have a couple hundred photos taken over the span of November 1997 to September 2001. I'll get mine scanned, but these should give you an idea. I believe these were taken from the 58th floor of the South Tower in 1999. Our offices in the North Tower didn't look too different.

http://picasaweb.google.com/jefflanka/WTCPics#

http://lh3.ggpht.com/-hzjOIF8azlw/TJNd_rjJGBI/AAAAAAAAAEM/HroFMrUrHsM/s640/my08%252524016.jpg
http://lh6.ggpht.com/-1JZ_2Q_W6MA/TJNdpaoF5rI/AAAAAAAAAD0/AtFbQ6or2Qg/s640/my08%252524010.jpg
http://lh3.ggpht.com/-BWVXkkYoQnk/TJNd1EhPYsI/AAAAAAAAAD8/rPI0BgmvH_k/s640/my08%252524012.jpg
http://lh5.ggpht.com/-oI3V100cOhk/TJNd0546PDI/AAAAAAAAAD4/31TyL8NUNfo/s640/my08%252524011.jpg
http://lh4.ggpht.com/-jwJ4HKO-pTo/TJNd1Hmo3xI/AAAAAAAAAEA/eucZ2mGphx8/s640/my08%252524013.jpg
http://lh4.ggpht.com/-LVTmKTAZHSk/TJNdpfYj_7I/AAAAAAAAADw/dwb5VbOb-Wc/s640/my08%252524009.jpg

^^Wow, thank you. I have never seen some photos like these, before.
:applause:

Chapelo I'm honored you are here on this forum with us. The pics you posted gave me goose bumps. Even after 10 years and even though I'm not from NY I still find it so shocking that all of this is destroyed now. Thank you very much for the pics.

Chapelo I'm honored you are here on this forum with us. The pics you posted gave me goose bumps. Even after 10 years and even though I'm not from NY I still find it so shocking that all of this is destroyed now. Thank you very much for the pics.

Thank you. I guess in a way, watching One World Trade Center rise is part of the healing process, restoring the hole not only in the skyline, but in our hearts.

I was originally in the camp that felt the Twins should be rebuilt, even taller, and to an extent, I still feel that way, but since this building has started getting taller, it's really grown on me. Can't wait for the rest of the site to be complete :cheers:

Wow, really nice that pics from inside the twins.

I don't know...Rebuild the old WTC?
Well a good idea but with an other color and bigger windows. And of course: Higher
'Cause this grey...Well, it wasn't very beautiful :)

But without grey, it wouldn't be WTC...Very difficult...;)

I am suppose to go in NYC in August 2012 and i made this photoshoped picture of what i think will be the skyline by then. Thanks to STR for the picture and the model.

http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/8128/newyorkskyline2012.jpg

great photos from the old wtc! i searched soo long for that photos

I don't know...Rebuild the old WTC?
Well a good idea but with an other color and bigger windows. And of course: Higher
'Cause this grey...Well, it wasn't very beautiful :)

You know, of all the plans I saw for rebuilding the Twins, the Gardner-Belton plan (same plan Trump endorsed back in 2005) was the most complete, best designed one ever conceived. It had larger windows, a reinforced concrete core, and I believe it would have stood at 111-115 stories. Granted, there's no chance it'll be built now, but it was definitely a viable alternative, considering Mr. Belton was employed by the same firm that did the structural engineering for the original Twins, and they already had a complete set of plans from which construction drawings could be made.

As far as the grey is concerned, keep in mind that they were designed in an era when aesthetics weren't as important as they are today. More than anything else, the Twins were designed for functionality, despite the fact that the superblock was somewhat disconnected from the fabric of Manhattan; a problem that's been rectified with the current plans restoring Fulton and Greenwich streets through the site.

^^ I absolutely love the Twin Towers 2 by Ken Gardner. In my opinion they are massively superior to what is being built in every single aspect except for the Twins 2 lacking the concrete base of the Freedom Tower. I wanted new twins very much, when I saw that there won't be Ken Gardner's new twins I at least wanted that there be two Freedom Towers and I never really gave up this wish of mine. However, I learned to live with the new WTC as it's built and I began liking it, sure, I still think the buildings are too short and that 1WTC needs a twin and that Twins 2 would have been far better but in general I love the new WTC. I even have it as my desktop now :cheers:

Btw, here some info for you about the Twin Towers 2. They were supposed to be 450 meters or 1475 feet and they should have had 111 floors. Here is their SSP diagram:

http://i51.tinypic.com/2d1mzch.jpg

I am suppose to go in NYC in August 2012 and i made this photoshoped picture of what i think will be the skyline by then. Thanks to STR for the picture and the model.

http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/8128/newyorkskyline2012.jpg

Do you have a higher res version of that pic? It looks really good! :cheers:

^^ I absolutely love the Twin Towers 2 by Ken Gardner. In my opinion they are massively superior to what is being built in every single aspect except for the Twins 2 lacking the concrete base of the Freedom Tower. I wanted new twins very much, when I saw that there won't be Ken Gardner's new twins I at least wanted that there be two Freedom Towers and I never really gave up this wish of mine. However, I learned to live with the new WTC as it's built and I began liking it, sure, I still think the buildings are too short and that 1WTC needs a twin and that Twins 2 would have been far better but in general I love the new WTC. I even have it as my desktop now :cheers:

You're autistic.

You're autistic.
:lol::lol:

Chapelo I'm honored you are here on this forum with us. The pics you posted gave me goose bumps. Even after 10 years and even though I'm not from NY I still find it so shocking that all of this is destroyed now. Thank you very much for the pics.

I second that sentiment. My Aunt lived a few blocks away at 90 Gold Street (Southbridge Towers), right next to (at the present) the almost completed Beekman Tower, and I couldn't reach her for days! I finally made it to lower Manhattan a few days later, on Sunday ... Auntie was well, but a bit shaken up.

^^ I absolutely love the Twin Towers 2 by Ken Gardner. In my opinion they are massively superior to what is being built in every single aspect except for the Twins 2 lacking the concrete base of the Freedom Tower. I wanted new twins very much, when I saw that there won't be Ken Gardner's new twins I at least wanted that there be two Freedom Towers and I never really gave up this wish of mine. However, I learned to live with the new WTC as it's built and I began liking it, sure, I still think the buildings are too short and that 1WTC needs a twin and that Twins 2 would have been far better but in general I love the new WTC. I even have it as my desktop now :cheers:

One World Trade Center is supposed to look like the former Twin Towers merged in one building, right? I'm so used to the idea that I can actually see it as the tower rises. I think it's the perfect tribute in a pure genious, sleek design.

For me, that's what so amazing about One WTC. A twin of it would just make no sense.

I've always loved the WTC, so at first that Ken Gardner proposal (btw, creepy memorial!) seemed to be the right thing to be built there. But it wouldn't be the "real" WTC. Unfortunately, 9/11 happened. I wish it didn't, but it did, so why not build something better?

Personalty i love this building however i do wish it was at least 2000 feet tall .

Personalty i love this building however i do wish it was at least 2000 feet tall .

I think anything taller would just look too tall and out of place, it feels just right to me as it is.

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6056/6319910106_d03a7dcde3_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dailym/6319910106/)
Manhattan Skyline from Staten Island (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dailym/6319910106/) by DailyM = Differentieel + JeeeM (http://www.flickr.com/people/dailym/), on Flickr

My WTC pictures from yesterday...

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6101/6320894353_49d295933f_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/42178139@N06/6320894353/)
DSCN4413 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/42178139@N06/6320894353/) by Nexis4Jersey09 (http://www.flickr.com/people/42178139@N06/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6059/6321416278_20cabc4726_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/42178139@N06/6321416278/)
DSCN4411 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/42178139@N06/6321416278/) by Nexis4Jersey09 (http://www.flickr.com/people/42178139@N06/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6120/6321302266_3190a4f75e_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/42178139@N06/6321302266/)
DSC08060 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/42178139@N06/6321302266/) by Nexis4Jersey09 (http://www.flickr.com/people/42178139@N06/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6110/6320774705_d03f6219e8_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/42178139@N06/6320774705/)
DSC08030 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/42178139@N06/6320774705/) by Nexis4Jersey09 (http://www.flickr.com/people/42178139@N06/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6055/6320773259_bb6bb35fbe_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/42178139@N06/6320773259/)
DSC08021 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/42178139@N06/6320773259/) by Nexis4Jersey09 (http://www.flickr.com/people/42178139@N06/), on Flickr

^
That video looks very German/Dutch (sorry, can't tell the difference between the two languages).

Come on!!! Step out of your box and learn something of the world outside the US. Dutch and German are as different as Danish ad German. All Germanic languages but very different in speach and grammar.

Come on!!! Step out of your box and learn something of the world outside the US. Dutch and German are as different as Danish ad German. All Germanic languages but very different in speach and grammar.

For someone who doesn't speak any of the languages, both are very similar. And you cannot expect everyone to know one of the languages. It even happens to me (I'm German) that I hear something in Dutch and only after a few sentences I discern that it's not German.

No need to be aggressive.. :ohno:

On topic: is there a core reconfiguration taking place right now, because they spend so much time with the columns around the center without erecting exterior columns?

^
I'm sorry if it's read to be aggresive. I'm only trying to say that sometimes Dutch is misunderstood with German throughout ignorance. The Netherlands are not a provence of Germany.

On topic: Beautiful pics of the marathon! I ran it in 2006 and I couldn't believe yesterday it has already been 5 years ago.

Very nice pictures. :)

already beginning to dominate. Very nice!

You're autistic.

Is it really necessary to throw insults at me? Am I really not allowed to have an opinion? :ohno:

But let's go to something more pleasant, I have pics :cheer:

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6059/6319914400_cd74607fee_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mattron/6319914400/)
1 World Trade Center (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mattron/6319914400/) by Mattron (http://www.flickr.com/people/mattron/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6228/6318572546_8f25850b79_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/niksmismee/6318572546/)
2011 - NYC - 014 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/niksmismee/6318572546/) by Niks Mis Mee BV (http://www.flickr.com/people/niksmismee/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6040/6318052697_2a0c72af16_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/niksmismee/6318052697/)
2011 - NYC - 015 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/niksmismee/6318052697/) by Niks Mis Mee BV (http://www.flickr.com/people/niksmismee/), on Flickr

And for the end the PA cam :cheer:

http://oxblue.com/archive/487d07189e5fd2b7edce94fc0bcf4b68/800x600.jpg

is that the webcam in the above pic??

^^ Yup :cheers:

^^ Yup :cheers:

boy, you are a heavy drinker aren't you Kanto?:nuts:

^^ What do you mean? :?

^^ What do you mean? :?

he always posts the drinking smiley face:cheers::cheers::cheers::cheers::cheers:

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6106/6319267933_29049046c1_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/niksmismee/6319267933/)
2011 - NYC - 179 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/niksmismee/6319267933/) by Niks Mis Mee BV (http://www.flickr.com/people/niksmismee/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6049/6323820724_86646679f3_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/danielemorra/6323820724/)
dm_20111031_new_york_0133 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/danielemorra/6323820724/) by Daniele Morra (http://www.flickr.com/people/danielemorra/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6109/6323293979_a9ef62aa3e_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/danielemorra/6323293979/)
dm_20111031_new_york_0132 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/danielemorra/6323293979/) by Daniele Morra (http://www.flickr.com/people/danielemorra/), on Flickr


http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6215/6323324137_b1598fd847_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/danielemorra/6323324137/)
dm_20111031_new_york_0177 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/danielemorra/6323324137/) by Daniele Morra (http://www.flickr.com/people/danielemorra/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6035/6320662339_a624064394_b.jpg
Photo by Liliane7 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/liliane77/)

Readying a Destination at New York’s New Summit (http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/11/07/readying-a-destination-at-new-yorks-new-summit/)
By David W. Dunlap | November 7, 2011

With every passing week, 1 World Trade Center can be seen from more and more places around New York and New Jersey, which means that more and more places can be seen from 1 World Trade Center.

Which means that it’s time to start thinking about who will operate the observation deck, opening in the summer of 2014. It is to occupy 85,000 square feet on the 100th, 101st and 102nd floors of the tower. The uppermost floor slab will be 1,268 feet above ground level; slightly higher than the aerie atop the Empire State Building (1,250 feet) but — as The Wall Street Journal noted — considerably lower than the Skydeck Chicago (1,353 feet), atop the Tower Formerly Known as Sears.

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2011/11/03/blogs/20111103Tower2/20111103Tower2-custom1.jpg
A floor plan of the uppermost level of the observation deck at 1 World Trade Center shows the diamond shape resulting from tower’s tapering sides. This angled perspective should create dynamic vistas.


At the Tower Formerly Known as Freedom, the observation deck will have its own underground lobby on the west side of the building, to isolate visitors from office tenants. Five high-speed elevators will shoot visitors to the deck at 2,000 feet a minute. (That would work out to about a 40-second trip to the 102nd floor, much less time than we spend getting to the third-floor newsroom here at The Times.)

The Durst Organization and the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, co-developers under the name Tower 1 Joint Venture L.L.C., have begun to cast their net for a likely operator. In their request for statements of qualification, they said that about five million visitors a year are expected at the World Trade Center site and that they were “open to creative ideas” for the observation deck.

At a minimum, applicants are expected to have developed, operated and managed “at least three (3) comparable venues,” which would seem on the face of it to be impossible, until you read a bit further to learn that means a high quality attraction within the tourism and leisure industry that attracts at least five hundred thousand (500,000) visitors per annum and has an annual operating budget of at least $5 million.
Statements of qualification are due Nov. 16. The developers will then compile a short list of prospects who will be asked to submit competitive design and operation plans. So it’s still a bit early to stand in line.

he always posts the drinking smiley face:cheers::cheers::cheers::cheers::cheers:

I guess the PA webcam makes him thirsty?

Great photos!

I think anything taller would just look too tall and out of place, it feels just right to me as it is.

I agree; anything larger just wouldn't fit there, not to mention it would ruin the symmetry of Lower Manhattan. You have Beekman on one side, and the WTC on the other.

What's being built has the same scale as the old towers, and thus won't look out of place.

Does anyone have a width comparison between the old towers and the new WTC 1?

WOW, Amazing city and buildings, I love New York

Does anyone have a width comparison between the old towers and the new WTC 1?
There were some posted a few pages back in this thread.

On the topic of height, I'm kind of glad the tower isnt taller. It's a strange phenomenon that tall buildings can ruin a skyline. If too tall, they can make all other buildings look small. Thus making the skyline subconsciously less impressive.

The world financial center and some other newer buildings in lower manahattan did this to some degree. They managed to make all the other smaller skyscrapers look small.

Ironically, what can detract from the perceived magnitude of a skyline in the short run, can actually be good in the long run. When enough of the larger scale buildings get built, the original larger scale buildings will be contributing rather than detracting from the sense of scale.

This rather bizarre observation also applied to the original twin towers. While they were impressive, they also managed to make all the other buildings unimpressive. A strange juxtaposition indeed.

Does anyone have a width comparison between the old towers and the new WTC 1?
The base is around 98% of the area of one of the old towers. Due to the taper of the sides, the roof is about 50% of the area of one of the old towers.

I haven't done the math but those numbers should be close. The new tower is just a couple feet shorter in width at the base, but both also also feature cut off corners. The new tower has a larger portion of the corner cutoff. That is, until it reaches 185 feet in height. So it really matters how you're measuring in order to get exact comparison numbers.

It would be great to see the exact numbers if anyone is willing to put in the effort...

Tower One is 200' 1.5" (~60.99m) to the column centers. At the base, the overall footprint is going to be 205' (62.48m) +/- a few inches. The original twins were 207' 8" (63.27m) to the column centers and the overall footprint was ~210' (~64m).

One last thing I would like to add is that if the side of the base is 205 feet or 62 meters then the side of the roof is according to the Pythagor equation is 144 feet or 44 meters :cheers:

And to get a better idea of the comparison between 1WTC and the Twins I have a diagram :cheer:

http://i44.tinypic.com/23rl5oo.jpg

Btw, I just love smileys so cheers :cheers:

I don't think that 4 WTC is already above the setback, if you look at the new perimeter columns placed.. but this question belongs to the 4 WTC thread.

Thanks for the comparison anyway.

There were some posted a few pages back in this thread.

On the topic of height, I'm kind of glad the tower isnt taller. It's a strange phenomenon that tall buildings can ruin a skyline. If too tall, they can make all other buildings look small. Thus making the skyline subconsciously less impressive.

The world financial center and some other newer buildings in lower manahattan did this to some degree. They managed to make all the other smaller skyscrapers look small.

Ironically, what can detract from the perceived magnitude of a skyline in the short run, can actually be good in the long run. When enough of the larger scale buildings get built, the original larger scale buildings will be contributing rather than detracting from the sense of scale.

This rather bizarre observation also applied to the original twin towers. While they were impressive, they also managed to make all the other buildings unimpressive. A strange juxtaposition indeed.

Interesting comment... I agree with you since I also had same opinion regarding original Twin Towers... they completely dominated the Lower Manhattan skyline so even American Express towers looked insignificant when seen from the ferry to Statue of Liberty...

:cheers:

I don't think that 4 WTC is already above the setback, if you look at the new perimeter columns placed.. but this question belongs to the 4 WTC thread.

Thanks for the comparison anyway.

That's true. I made this diagram when we thought that the new steel was for the setback floors. That's outdated info since it is now proven that it is only more steel for the mechanical floor. I posted this diagram only to compare how wide the buildings are :cheers:

Btw, to the debate about how big is too big. I think there's no such thing as too big. The Twins were incredibly dominating buildings and I loved that. In my opinion it is the primary and most important attribute of a skyscraper to make other buildings arround it look insignifficant. I think a tower over 1 kilometer would look awesome in Lower Manhattan. For me it is the higher the better :banana2:

Btw, I have pics :cheer:

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6107/6324465968_a4d68eaede_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/50884643@N08/6324465968/)
Construction of the Freedom Tower (http://www.flickr.com/photos/50884643@N08/6324465968/) by ayarnevich (http://www.flickr.com/people/50884643@N08/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6033/6325162018_5ea98e439a_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/_mogi/6325162018/)
freedom tower. (http://www.flickr.com/photos/_mogi/6325162018/) by _mogi. (http://www.flickr.com/people/_mogi/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6218/6324802389_c746d21ba6_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/pmarella/6324802389/)
lower Manhattan (http://www.flickr.com/photos/pmarella/6324802389/) by pmarella (http://www.flickr.com/people/pmarella/), on Flickr

And the PA cam for the end :cheer:

http://oxblue.com/archive/487d07189e5fd2b7edce94fc0bcf4b68/800x600.jpg

One last thing I would like to add is that if the side of the base is 205 feet or 62 meters then the side of the roof is according to the Pythagor equation is 144 feet or 44 meters :cheers:

And to get a better idea of the comparison between 1WTC and the Twins I have a diagram :cheer:

http://i44.tinypic.com/23rl5oo.jpg

Btw, I just love smileys so cheers :cheers:

I thought that the One WTC was way to higher than the twin towers

My preference is to build more skyscrapers around 300 m instead of one skyscraper around 600 m. And this towers aren't too dominating and let surrounding buildings looks like shad's, it just shows how extra big they are.

I thought that the One WTC was way to higher than the twin towers

The CTBUH height measurement is a very puzzling way to measure a building's height (that's why I use roof height instead). They make difference between spires and antennas. Spires are counted in the official height but antennas not. This leads to info that is in fact misleading. They make 1WTC appear far taller than the Twins, but in reality their heights are nearly identical :cheers:

Well, I agree with tim.
I think One WTC is a little over sized, but in every case a cool building. I think, 400 Metres with 20 Metres spire would be enough, but I'm really happy about it now.
:cheers:

Well, I agree with tim.
I think One WTC is a little over sized, but in every case a cool building. I think, 400 Metres with 20 Metres spire would be enough, but I'm really happy about it now.
:cheers:

:nuts:

:nuts:

What do you mean?
I meant, it's really higher than the other buildings. That's why I think it's not perfect there. This is no attack! I really love 1 WTC.
I think, this effect disappears, when every building of the complex is ready.

Spire, Antenna: It think, the different is the height.

Hey folks, if anybody wants some nice new WTC wallpapers go here:

http://www.inrepair.net/2009/11/20/freedom-tower-1wtc-rising-quickly/

The third pic is my wallpaper :cheers:

Thanks Kanto. Great renders :cheers:

Anyone been on call of duty MW3 yet? Copyright issues over the towers design and the fact that firing missiles at the new 1WTC might of not gone down to well have made the game developers replace 1WTC for a different tower. 2WTC is still there I think :)

Interesting comment... I agree with you since I also had same opinion regarding original Twin Towers... they completely dominated the Lower Manhattan skyline so even American Express towers looked insignificant when seen from the ferry to Statue of Liberty...

:cheers:

true, they did dominate but there are a half dozen or so towers that are there now that were not there in 2001. Goldman Sachs, W Hotel, 7 WTC , NY by Gehry, the Barclay Tower etc and 4WTC now is making it's presence felt so while 1WTC will dominate, it has a lot more company down there than the twins did

Never forget! Every week i check NIST FOIA 9/11 just to remember the tragedy. I might be offline, but i know one thing: Never forget!
1WTC is amazing. Hope to visit NY in 2012-2013

Anyone been on call of duty MW3 yet? Copyright issues over the towers design and the fact that firing missiles at the new 1WTC might of not gone down to well have made the game developers replace 1WTC for a different tower. 2WTC is still there I think :)

Deleting 1WTC from the game is very bad :rant: I love skyscrapers and I love gaming (and I mean war gaming, not things like Simcity). Having those two together is like a dream comming true :drool::master:

Hey folks, if anybody wants some nice new WTC wallpapers go here:

http://www.inrepair.net/2009/11/20/freedom-tower-1wtc-rising-quickly/

The third pic is my wallpaper :cheers:

Those aren't new, it even says 2009 on it.

Deleting 1WTC from the game is very bad :rant: I love skyscrapers and I love gaming (and I mean war gaming, not things like Simcity). Having those two together is like a dream comming true :drool::master:


Tall buildings and explosions together do bring an offense to some however so it's understandable why they took the new symbolic WTC out of the game. There's some other tall building in it's place though - a lot more boxy. I honestly think the game will be getting a he'll if a lot if complaints though, London underground is also featured and various other worldwide landmarks.

I too love war games however you can't beat a little bit of innocent fun on Sim City! :D

Here's some photos of 1WTC over the weekend. these were taken by my sister from the millennium... unfortunately i didn't get to go :(

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6043/6326429473_038b3ce17d_b.jpg

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6215/6327175282_95edafb00a_b.jpg

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6226/6327179114_ab396f6fac_b.jpg

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6224/6327187374_39421b6578_b.jpg

Tower One is 200' 1.5" (~60.99m) to the column centers. At the base, the overall footprint is going to be 205' (62.48m) +/- a few inches. The original twins were 207' 8" (63.27m) to the column centers and the overall footprint was ~210' (~64m).
The base is an octagon. Is that 200' 1.5" measurement the length of each of the four longer sides? Or is it the length of a square drawn exactly to enclose the octagon? (That square would be the size of the tower at 185' in height, where the tower is widest.)

The 200' 1.5" figure is the distance between a column center from one face to the column center of the opposite one.

http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/5884/columncenters.jpg

Drawing is not scaled.

Hey folks, if anybody wants some nice new WTC wallpapers go here:

http://www.inrepair.net/2009/11/20/freedom-tower-1wtc-rising-quickly/

The third pic is my wallpaper :cheers:

In case you didn't noticed, the majority of those renderings were made by dbox and released back in 2010, except first pic. You can find them at wtc.com

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6239/6327353328_796344d057_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jag9889/6327353328/)
St. Paul's Chapel, One World Trade Center and Seven World Trade Center, New York City (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jag9889/6327353328/) by jag9889 (http://www.flickr.com/people/jag9889/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6233/6324069769_5bd1d88402_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/zero_g/6324069769/)
1 WTC Up Close (http://www.flickr.com/photos/zero_g/6324069769/) by [nilay] (http://www.flickr.com/people/zero_g/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6108/6326321516_7e4630e2f3_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/fotojazzcreations/6326321516/)
NY - Ground Zero (http://www.flickr.com/photos/fotojazzcreations/6326321516/) by Foto Jazz Creations (http://www.flickr.com/people/fotojazzcreations/), on Flickr

true, they did dominate but there are a half dozen or so towers that are there now that were not there in 2001. Goldman Sachs, W Hotel, 7 WTC , NY by Gehry, the Barclay Tower etc and 4WTC now is making it's presence felt so while 1WTC will dominate, it has a lot more company down there than the twins did

That's correct. Last time I was there was in January 2009 and I think all those buildings you mention already were there. Anyway, I like the WTC1 a lot (however, I will miss Twin Towers forever) and hope to go back sooner or later and see with my own eyes the renewed Lower Manhattan!

:cheers:

Very disappointed they deleted 1 wtc in Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 don't understand why since they have wtc 2 and wtc 3 in it.

Very disappointed they deleted 1 wtc in Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 don't understand why since they have wtc 2 and wtc 3 in it.Hmm, that's strange. I can understand why they would though

Those aren't new, it even says 2009 on it.

I was going to say something about that, haha...

A little old, but it looks so cool.

Photo courtesy of RAB Lighting.
http://i.picoodle.com/70ciqywc.gif

Also outdated, but here it is...
http://i.picoodle.com/4e8iqywt.jpg

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6211/6326759139_5fb3582b78_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/robertpalmer/6326759139/)
The New World Trade Center (http://www.flickr.com/photos/robertpalmer/6326759139/) by robertpalmer (http://www.flickr.com/people/robertpalmer/), on Flickr

Very disappointed they deleted 1 wtc in Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 don't understand why since they have wtc 2 and wtc 3 in it.

Like I've already said, it may be that tower 1 was removed since it's the tallest to be symbolic to the former towers. Then I don't understand why 2wtc and 3wtc haven't been removed as surely they're breaching design copyright issues.

from http://www.wtc.com/media/, by Joe Woolhead

http://www.wtc.com/utils/Download.aspx?file=/uploads/images/hi-res/14_40_20111031-WFC,-Pavillion,-1WTC,-7WTC-Credit-Joe-Woolhead.jpg

Hey folks, I have pics :cheer:

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6215/6325595653_9d9f86a233_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/markl3883/6325595653/)
Freedom Tower rising (http://www.flickr.com/photos/markl3883/6325595653/) by MarkL3883 (http://www.flickr.com/people/markl3883/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6221/6326384760_b42d4fd6ea_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jal33/6326384760/)
From A Moving Train (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jal33/6326384760/) by James Loesch (http://www.flickr.com/people/jal33/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6226/6326604481_33fd5c7e5f_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jag9889/6326604481/)
One World Trade Center with St. Paul's Chapel, New York City (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jag9889/6326604481/) by jag9889 (http://www.flickr.com/people/jag9889/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6232/6327354656_7faa246f10_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jag9889/6327354656/)
One World Trade Center with St. Paul's Chapel, New York City (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jag9889/6327354656/) by jag9889 (http://www.flickr.com/people/jag9889/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6093/6327407174_2285f1e55f_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jag9889/6327407174/)
One World Trade Center Construction Site, New York City (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jag9889/6327407174/) by jag9889 (http://www.flickr.com/people/jag9889/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6231/6326655067_3181052336_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jag9889/6326655067/)
One World Trade Center Construction Site, New York City (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jag9889/6326655067/) by jag9889 (http://www.flickr.com/people/jag9889/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6235/6327997720_4a954da176_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/w_yvr/6327997720/)
freedom tower in progress, and that oddly 2D-looking building (new york) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/w_yvr/6327997720/) by wynlok (http://www.flickr.com/people/w_yvr/), on Flickr

And the PA cam for the end :cheer: On it we can see that they are finally adding perimeter columns :banana2:

http://oxblue.com/archive/487d07189e5fd2b7edce94fc0bcf4b68/800x600.jpg

I've been watching closely the progress of 1WTC in NYC and The Shard in London. Two very similar projects, but both done very well.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=418897&page=500

I prefer the cladding on 1WTC, but the shape of the Shard is great, especially at the top - not being reliant on the mast.

I wanted to see 1WTC in MW3 :ohno: what a shame

I've been watching closely the progress of 1WTC in NYC and The Shard in London. Two very similar projects, but both done very well.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=418897&page=500

I prefer the cladding on 1WTC, but the shape of the Shard is great, especially at the top - not being reliant on the mast.

I don't see anything similar about these buildings at all. 1 WTC looks a million times better than that ugly thing.

^^ I 1000% agree with you. 1WTC is a masterpiece :master: but the Shard is ugly :puke:

Hey hey hey! Why does look the Shard ugly?

Maybe a little bit strange, but I don't think it's ugly..

Hey hey hey! Why does look the Shard ugly?

It's a matter of opinion.

^^ 1:0 for you.

Maybe a little bit strange, but I don't think it's ugly..

it's not strange, check out it's thread, there are loads of people that love the Shard as well as love 1WTC including myself

Amazing. Maybe the most important building of the early 21th century.

I really think 1 WTC is just a more modern and more safe north tower. I like how it keeps some of the same aspects of the twins, but also looks more 21-st century.

Hey hey hey! Why does look the Shard ugly?

Because if they added some blades at the top, you'd have a giant windmill:lol:
looks almost identical to the antique windmill that sits on the 4th hole of my local golf course. i've hit it a few times....

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6236/6329860947_3f3eab09e2_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/julschau/6329860947/)
one world trade center (http://www.flickr.com/photos/julschau/6329860947/) by julian schau (http://www.flickr.com/people/julschau/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6223/6329831612_a543ec1252_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/batmannyc/6329831612/)
Good Morning New York! (http://www.flickr.com/photos/batmannyc/6329831612/) by Naturallyintense (http://www.flickr.com/people/batmannyc/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6213/6329623588_9fccb73d12_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/morrongiello/6329623588/)
WTC Site 20111109- Freedom Tower (http://www.flickr.com/photos/morrongiello/6329623588/) by morrongiello (http://www.flickr.com/people/morrongiello/), on Flickr

The same could be said with wtc1 if you added some graphite to the top you could have one giant HB pencil lol... Anway the shard looks awesome and wtc1 looks awesome!

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6116/6329643021_b06d2c0b6b_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/cooks333/6329643021/)
Lower Manhattan from the Empire State building (http://www.flickr.com/photos/cooks333/6329643021/) by cooks333 (http://www.flickr.com/people/cooks333/), on Flickr

I know it's been the tallest thing down there for a while now, but it's really starting to separate from the pack. It's starting to look pretty dominant in the newer pictures.

I'm guessing the tip of the crane is roughly where the roof will be when it tops out. It is indeed up there!:banana:

On the second pic of Otie (Naturally Intense Photography) the Flat Iron building sits in the middle. Just left of that, what is that for a building and how long is it sitting there? I can't recall it when I was back there in 2006, walking along the FI-building. But it is possible I was too impressed by New York to remember all....

http://www.downtownexpress.com/?p=4454

Downtown Express
November 9, 2011

Mixed forecast for One W.T.C., says leasing exec

BY ALINE REYNOLDS | Tara Stacom, vice chairperson of the global commercial real estate firm Cushman & Wakefield, and a member of the firm’s global advisory board, has taken on one of Lower Manhattan’s most eminent office leasing projects: 1 World Trade Center, formerly dubbed the “Freedom Tower.” In a Nov. 2 interview, Stacom remarked on the building’s current and prospective tenants in light of the economic downturn, the building’s distinguishing characteristics and day-to-day activity at the site.

DE: What is so appealing about 1 W.T.C., from the perspective of an office tenant?

It’s truly a chance for a company to get on a global stage. The tower is a global icon — it’s going to be the largest, tallest building in the Western Hemisphere. It’s only up to 86 stories in steel, yet it makes an extraordinary impression. For many companies I’ve represented, from the smallest to the largest, the letterhead address is very significant in assisting to transform their identity around the world. When Rockefeller Center was built, and tenants put on their letterhead, “Rockafeller Plaza,” they got instant recognition. The W.T.C. site will do that in a far greater way, because it’s more iconic, it’s more discussed and talked about, and it’s architecturally renowned.

DE: Talk about the tenants you’ve secured thus far.

The first tenant which signed is Vantone, for about 190,000 square feet on floors 64 to 69. The second is Conde Nast, which took just over one million feet on floors 20 to 41.

DE: What kind of company is Vantone?

It’s actually a division of Vantone called China Center New York, a Chinese entity that houses companies from China coming to the U.S. to do business. It’s going to be a terrific asset for the bluilding. It’s owned by a renowned individual in China who hired a renowned architect to construct an extraordinary premises that the other tenants will benefit from, including a conference space and a club facility.

DE: How do you think Conde Nast’s lease-signing is continuing to influence the office market in 1 W.T.C. and Downtown in general?

Conde Nast is a global brand with cache. For many tenants in New York City, it shined a light on a Downtown that was thought to be solely for financial services and investment banking, which it has been for quite some time. Everyone jokes and smiles when saying how the young Goldman Sachs guys will wonderfully mix with the Conde Nast employees.

DE: In sealing new leases, are you targeting specific types of business or industries?

Yes, in that we’re looking at getting a very diverse roster within the building — not just from a size perspective but from an industry category perspective, and from a geographic perspective. We are [searching] for further international presence as we get closer to renting. We’re also looking for diversity [in size] and are ready to lease smaller spaces than your million-square-foot tenants — like one-to-two floors — so that we have a truly diverse, global building in every respect. We do have serious prospects currently from the Downtown community, and we want to attract other Midtown tenants, of course.

DE: Are there any other office tenants you’ve lined up that we don’t know about yet?

Conde was unusually out of the box early! There are more than a dozen that we’re tracking, including a creative firm and a law firm. Their brokers would prefer that I not mention their names. There are millions of feet of potential there — we have been touring actively and are having active dialogue with very large users as well as two-floor users.

Read on (http://www.downtownexpress.com/?p=4454)

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Really interesting interview, hopefully they secure some more tenants soon, so that further tenants have to pick 2 or 3 WTC, so that these building can be build as well.. :cheers:

I'm guessing the tip of the crane will be roughly where the roof will be when it tops out. It is indeed up there!:banana:

You're right. Check out this pic I just made and compare it to Otie's original pic :cheer:

http://i40.tinypic.com/2yypc8w.jpg

Btw, oli, thank you for the article. I can use info on tenats since I'm planning to make a thread about it :cheers:

It goes on up, now really prominent on the NY skyline.

Folks, I have pics :cheer:

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6213/6329623588_9fccb73d12_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/morrongiello/6329623588/)
WTC Site 20111109- Freedom Tower (http://www.flickr.com/photos/morrongiello/6329623588/) by morrongiello (http://www.flickr.com/people/morrongiello/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6054/6330845422_b1f4462aba_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/supremecourtjester/6330845422/)
Freedom Tower Going Up with Statue of Liberty In The Background (http://www.flickr.com/photos/supremecourtjester/6330845422/) by Supremecourtjester (http://www.flickr.com/people/supremecourtjester/), on Flickr

And the PA cam for the end :cheer:

http://oxblue.com/archive/487d07189e5fd2b7edce94fc0bcf4b68/800x600.jpg

On the second pic of Otie (Naturally Intense Photography) the Flat Iron building sits in the middle. Just left of that, what is that for a building and how long is it sitting there? I can't recall it when I was back there in 2006, walking along the FI-building. But it is possible I was too impressed by New York to remember all....

One Madison Park

Okay, thanks!

I think I want to buy the triplex penthouse........I only need some sponsors!!

^^ No problem, I'll donate 40 euro cents to you :2cents::hilarious

That's more than a Dollar would by for me, ha ha!!

Looking good :cheers:

Looking good !

Nice!:cheers:

Both the shard and this project are stunning :)

Because if they added some blades at the top, you'd have a giant windmill:lol:
looks almost identical to the antique windmill that sits on the 4th hole of my local golf course. i've hit it a few times....

Would be an alternative source of energy...:lol:

^^ That is what I call an ecoscraper :hilarious

http://www.flickr.com/photos/69729754@N08/6333064532/in/photostream

http://www.flickr.com/photos/69729754@N08/6333064532/in/photostream
Hello, I am new on the forum I come from Paris to France and I look at the construction of the tower thanks to you every day!

^^ Nice render, far better than what I did :cheers:

Just a little imagination...

http://i624.photobucket.com/albums/tt325/JackFredrik/Utennavn2.jpg

norway that looks terrible without a spire...why even post it? WHY?

Wow, it looks so much better without the ring and the spire :master::drool: Thanks for posting this :cheers:

norway that looks terrible without a spire...why even post it? WHY?

I'm agree with you. One WTC looks much better with a spire.

Wow, it looks so much better without the ring and the spire :master::drool: Thanks for posting this :cheers:

Eh, not so much to me. I don't think it looks near as good without the spire. Just my opinion. :2cents:

Everybody is satisfied? :D

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6098/6332662301_d7253dce30_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/69729754@N08/6332662301/)
6329643021b06d2c0b6b_b (http://www.flickr.com/photos/69729754@N08/6332662301/) par jonathan92i (http://www.flickr.com/people/69729754@N08/), sur Flickr

^^ haha

Nice pics!!

I will visit.

That would have been great if it came to fruition.

Whatever they build on the DB site will be called 5WTC, and maybe the PAC can be called 6. The museum pavillion can be #8 so we will have more than the original. (While we're at it those 2 vent buildings on West St. can be 9 and 10 ) http://ii.gl/q

Everybody is satisfied? :D

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6098/6332662301_d7253dce30_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/69729754@N08/6332662301/)
6329643021b06d2c0b6b_b (http://www.flickr.com/photos/69729754@N08/6332662301/) par jonathan92i (http://www.flickr.com/people/69729754@N08/), sur Flickr

That looks great. I just wish you would have included the ventilation "lines". ^^;

That actually looks pretty cool. I know...it's not gonna happen...but if they had rebuilt the twins, this version would have been way better than the original...lighter, airier, and less bulky.^^

Also they moved Two World Trade Center back away from One World Trade Center so that the Building would cast no shadow on the new Memorial, which may be one reason why they didn't build 2 Freedom Towers next to each other. :)

Everybody is satisfied? :D

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6098/6332662301_d7253dce30_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/69729754@N08/6332662301/)
6329643021b06d2c0b6b_b (http://www.flickr.com/photos/69729754@N08/6332662301/) par jonathan92i (http://www.flickr.com/people/69729754@N08/), sur Flickr

Oh my, this is so beautiful. Thank you very much for making this render. It's a dream of mine comming true. I never really gave up hope for twin Freedom Towers becoming reality :drool::master:

Btw, I have new pics :cheer:

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6105/6332067661_f952c68a96_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/terryballard/6332067661/)
November 10 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/terryballard/6332067661/) by terryballard (http://www.flickr.com/people/terryballard/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6052/6334105572_27f811213f_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/pedroboe/6334105572/)
Freedom Tower (http://www.flickr.com/photos/pedroboe/6334105572/) by pedroboe (http://www.flickr.com/people/pedroboe/), on Flickr

And the PA cam for the end :cheer:

http://oxblue.com/archive/487d07189e5fd2b7edce94fc0bcf4b68/800x600.jpg

About the twins being rebuilt well the footprint is still there and that is very intense I believe. And about the skyline when rebuilt the whole WTC is going to be magnificent with all these high quality and tall towers.

I don't see anything similar about these buildings at all. 1 WTC looks a million times better than that ugly thing.


http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6228/6331798361_36233333d3_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/parrishcolmanphotography/6331591355/sizes/l/in/photostream/[/QUOTE]

Its difficult to call this ugly.

All this destruction and pain....sad..

I am suppose to go in NYC in August 2012 and i made this photoshoped picture of what i think will be the skyline by then. Thanks to STR for the picture and the model.

http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/8128/newyorkskyline2012.jpg

That's great. 2 and 3 WTC's are already maybe 30 stories tall in that render. I really hope that's what it looks like 9 months from now..

That's great. 2 and 3 WTC's are already maybe 30 stories tall in that render. I really hope that's what it looks like 9 months from now..

1WTC is not gonna be THAT tall....

Anyone know what floor the stripy cladding starts on?

Any floor now I'd imagine

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6228/6331798361_36233333d3_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/parrishcolmanphotography/6331591355/sizes/l/in/photostream/

Its difficult to call this ugly.



No its really not. They should clad it in orange :lol: and call it the international safety station.

The Shard has absolutely nothing to do with the construction of the 1WTC, so discuss abt the "simmilarities" in a thread in the architecture section please.

Sorry, my brain makes strange associations of ideas, I couldn't resist:

http://i41.tinypic.com/2955yxe.jpg

^^ :lol:

:lol::lol:

That last picture reminds me of the Breakfast In America album by Supertramp.

Lol I thought they scrapped the restaurant "on top."

That last picture reminds me of the Breakfast In America album by Supertramp.

SUPERTRAMP WAS AWESOME!!:cheers::cheers:

That last picture reminds me of the Breakfast In America album by Supertramp.

http://i42.tinypic.com/29yjbc6.jpg

First time in my life I see that album...

Well, I am good at starting offtopics, better if I stop here :lol::lol::lol:

http://i42.tinypic.com/29yjbc6.jpg

First time in my life I see that album...

Well, I am good at starting offtopics, better if I stop here :lol::lol::lol:

Small off-topic was worth it:lol::lol::lol:

^^^^:hilarious, omg,
How fast it can go: At first we're speaking about one WTC and at least we're talking about SUPERTRAMP :lol:

1WTC is not gonna be THAT tall....

What do you mean? It's going to be topped out by February or March I believe, so obviously by August it's going to be that tall. I'm not sure if the spire would be fully completed by August, but if it takes 6 months and they start on it as soon as they top out, who knows.

1WTC is not gonna be THAT tall....


looks about right to me remember 1 wtc is going to be about a 1000 feet taller than all the buildings that are around it.

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6047/6335658341_daf43110fb_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/29205256@N02/6335658341/)
WTC (http://www.flickr.com/photos/29205256@N02/6335658341/) by BSEinBrooklyn (http://www.flickr.com/people/29205256@N02/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6033/6336381334_ba4b5ab8c3_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/15546071@N04/6336381334/)
1 World Trade Center (http://www.flickr.com/photos/15546071@N04/6336381334/) by Skellig2008 (http://www.flickr.com/people/15546071@N04/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6098/6335630927_c05c7639b2_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/15546071@N04/6335630927/)
NYC (http://www.flickr.com/photos/15546071@N04/6335630927/) by Skellig2008 (http://www.flickr.com/people/15546071@N04/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6052/6334105572_27f811213f_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/pedroboe/6334105572/)
Freedom Tower (http://www.flickr.com/photos/pedroboe/6334105572/) by pedroboe (http://www.flickr.com/people/pedroboe/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6107/6334107360_502dbd5bc1_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/pedroboe/6334107360/)
IMGP3337.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/pedroboe/6334107360/) by pedroboe (http://www.flickr.com/people/pedroboe/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6113/6333948059_4eafe62d30_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/flatbushgardener/6333948059/)
Tower One Rising Into Fog (http://www.flickr.com/photos/flatbushgardener/6333948059/) by Flatbush Gardener (http://www.flickr.com/people/flatbushgardener/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6112/6336591964_73030b5318_b.jpg
By MPnormaleye (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mpnormaleye/)

The cladding work is going good.

^This shot is very remminiscent of the renderings published years ago. It is indeed reality now!:)

Nice.

Pics while I was strolling around downtown yesterday.

http://oi41.tinypic.com/64gdhy.jpg

http://oi41.tinypic.com/2hz7mlh.jpg

http://oi44.tinypic.com/5lo0zt.jpg

Look how small the Barclay Vesey building looks now. 2 years ago it loomed over the site!^^

Look how small the Barclay Vesey building looks now. 2 years ago it loomed over the site!^^

Really? Did 7 WTC take a vacation 2 years ago?

http://oi41.tinypic.com/64gdhy.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b125/Uaarkson/RmSFI-1.gif

^^^ lol kinda weird though

In the picture with the moon what is the super bright building directly underneath? :O

^^ It's the new Goldman Sachs Headquarters (200 West Street).

Its awesome! (but not as awesome as WTC1) :) Wtc1 its coming along great. Im most looking forward to seeing how it looks at night without all those super bright construction lights on and with just your average flourescents or L.E.D's.

^^ I hope they will lit up the silverish edges in whti, with the usual office lightings inbetween. A slightly blueish light for the communication ring, and indirect light for the spire. With the N being morsed at the spires tip.

progress comparison between aug 31 to nov 13 (75 days), courtesy of the KPITV cam

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6033/6339608449_75da73df1d_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/67131242@N07/6339608449/)
Screen shot 2011-11-13 at 11.26.33 PM (http://www.flickr.com/photos/67131242@N07/6339608449/) by Gargarensis (http://www.flickr.com/people/67131242@N07/), on Flickr

^^Wow, it grows faster than I have thought...
:applause:

Amazing, georgeus building:applause:

Absolutely.:cheers:

From SSP.

Hey guys! Sorry I haven't been on here in a while. I jetted to Africa to do some charity work and I didn't have internet there. Anyways, I am back to NYC! :)

Here is a pic of Lower Manhattan with the WTC soaring about the buildings from our helicopter:

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6107/6341180372_e8d571b475_b.jpg

Copyright by: SkylineFan

That was a nice shot! :) the "Freedom Tower" looks taller now.

here are a few pictures i took yesterday
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e232/CharmedOne9805/_MG_1053.jpg
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e232/CharmedOne9805/_MG_1055.jpg
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e232/CharmedOne9805/_MG_1054.jpg
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e232/CharmedOne9805/_MG_1056.jpg
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e232/CharmedOne9805/_MG_1059.jpg

I went to the site for the first time in two months today.

The closer WTC gets to completion the more I am convinced of something - we need WTC2 and WTC3 for this to work.

On it's own WTC 1 just doesn't look right and doesn't cut it. It is too small and looks lonely. I think the only way it looks decent is with all the other towers there and the transportation center too.

I think the WTC was designed as a complex and won't look right until the entire complex is complete.

So at this point I think I am going to start focusing on WTC 2 and 3 more than WTC 1. I hope they don't get delayed too much.

On it's own WTC 1 just doesn't look right and doesn't cut it. It is too small and looks lonely. I think the only way it looks decent is with all the other towers there and the transportation center too.

I think the WTC was designed as a complex and won't look right until the entire complex is complete.

That's exactly what I meant. I think I said it two sites ago.
That's why I agree with you :)

I went to the site for the first time in two months today.

The closer WTC gets to completion the more I am convinced of something - we need WTC2 and WTC3 for this to work.

On it's own WTC 1 just doesn't look right and doesn't cut it. It is too small and looks lonely. I think the only way it looks decent is with all the other towers there and the transportation center too.

I think the WTC was designed as a complex and won't look right until the entire complex is complete.

So at this point I think I am going to start focusing on WTC 2 and 3 more than WTC 1. I hope they don't get delayed too much.

It wouldn't be standing completely alone, because 4 WTC is on its way to the top. But I think 1 WTC standing without Towers 2 and 3 would probably serve to better emphasize its dominance on the skyline (and 1 WTC is far from being "too small"). I've never liked the size and positioning of 2 WTC; either it should be much shorter, or it should have been switched with the transportation hub so that it wouldn't directly block the view of 1 WTC from the Brooklyn Bridge. I think I've argued about this about a dozen or so times here. I don't think we would have liked if buildings of similar height to the Twins were built around them, had they still been here today. That wouldn't have looked right. I think 1 WTC has the ability to stand without those other 2 towers if need be.

Sorry for the essay :nuts:

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6099/6338518669_55a520d482_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/14333661@N03/6338518669/)
Lower Manhattan Sunset, in orange accent (http://www.flickr.com/photos/14333661@N03/6338518669/) by truthinpassingx (http://www.flickr.com/people/14333661@N03/), on Flickr

I went to the site for the first time in two months today.

The closer WTC gets to completion the more I am convinced of something - we need WTC2 and WTC3 for this to work.

On it's own WTC 1 just doesn't look right and doesn't cut it. It is too small and looks lonely. I think the only way it looks decent is with all the other towers there and the transportation center too.

I think the WTC was designed as a complex and won't look right until the entire complex is complete.

So at this point I think I am going to start focusing on WTC 2 and 3 more than WTC 1. I hope they don't get delayed too much.

I agree with you on this.

Taken on 11/13 at dusk

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6056/6343389938_3842ab0aa5_b.jpg

oh my thats an amazing photo. reminds me of hong kong

oh my thats an amazing photo. reminds me of hong kong

Bite your tongue! (or since this is typing, bite your fingers? I dunno, whatever)

That last photo reminds me of HK. ICC on the right and IFC on the left.

Really? Did 7 WTC take a vacation 2 years ago?

...over the WTC1 site. I think most people knew what I meant.

...over the WTC1 site. I think most people knew what I meant.

Once again, does 7 WTC not count? It's right next to that building, and it's much taller. What are you talking about?

EDIT: Oh, I guess you mean in front of the direct space where 1 WTC is now. Well, okay, I guess.

Bite your tongue! (or since this is typing, bite your fingers? I dunno, whatever)
Lol, I think it's because you usually see the NY skyline by itself in the most iconic photos. HK is frequently portrayed with 2 skylines divided by a body of water like in that photo.

Taken on 11/13 at dusk

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6056/6343389938_3842ab0aa5_b.jpg

Does anybody see a little Hong Kong in the Manhattan/Jersey City skycluster?

That last photo reminds me of HK. ICC on the right and IFC on the left.

Oops, you beat me to it! Guess my eye isn't so bad after all

nice video from jersey.... to freedom tower

http://www.zideo.nl/player/?playzideo=6c4953566f6c3970&zideo=6c5947556e6c633d

Oops, you beat me to it! Guess my eye isn't so bad after all

i beat both of you to it :S

I love how the world trade center complex area is shining brighter than the surrounding buildings. Its like its saying Im Back! You aint going to keep me down! :-)

Bite your tongue! (or since this is typing, bite your fingers? I dunno, whatever)


That's a huge compliment, both cities are beasts :cheers:

Can people please save their comments about 1 wtc until completion .

It wouldn't be standing completely alone, because 4 WTC is on its way to the top. But I think 1 WTC standing without Towers 2 and 3 would probably serve to better emphasize its dominance on the skyline (and 1 WTC is far from being "too small"). I've never liked the size and positioning of 2 WTC; either it should be much shorter, or it should have been switched with the transportation hub so that it wouldn't directly block the view of 1 WTC from the Brooklyn Bridge. I think I've argued about this about a dozen or so times here. I don't think we would have liked if buildings of similar height to the Twins were built around them, had they still been here today. That wouldn't have looked right. I think 1 WTC has the ability to stand without those other 2 towers if need be.

Sorry for the essay :nuts:

That's actually a very nice essay :cheers: I would even go as far as to say that 1WTC looks better without 2WTC and 3WTC. I never liked Libeskind's spiral site plan. In my opinion it looks too shy. Alone 1WTC is more dominating the skyline as the Twins did, which in my opinion is far better than what Libeskind designed :cheers:

Has anyone noticed that Google updated their sattelite shots of Ground Zero? It's probably summer 2011
http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/1342/28859421.png

http://maps.google.pl/maps?q=new+york+google+maps&ll=40.711809,-74.011567&spn=0.004294,0.013733&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&hnear=Nowy+Jork,+New+York,+Nowy+Jork,+Stany+Zjednoczone&gl=pl&t=h&z=17&vpsrc=6

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6236/6342060493_d4d8a82839_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jglsongs/6342060493/)
World Trade reflections (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jglsongs/6342060493/) by jglsongs (http://www.flickr.com/people/jglsongs/), on Flickr

Taken yesterday from Weehawken, NJ

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6033/6345798156_7e9cc02f8c_b.jpg

Can people please save their comments about 1 wtc until completion .

This killed me :rofl:

This killed me :rofl:

Why? Also to stay on topic, I can't wait for more steel. :) And base cladding. Hope that comes very soon. :cheers:

I think by mid to late january of 2012 they should have cladding up to the octagon mark.

I have always wonder why they havent added clading to the base. They covered it with this black covering and I expect it to have cladding after finishing.

I have always wonder why they havent added clading to the base. They covered it with this black covering and I expect it to have cladding after finishing.

They want 1 WTC to be unique. Having an uncladded concrete bunker base with partial scaffolding is a very cutting-edge approach, and it's sure to attract attention and praise from New Yorkers and tourists alike for many years to come. :)

^^ That wouldn't be a bad idea actually.