http://heart-ingenuity.blogspot.com/2011/11/lngs-from-laquila-for-world.html

http://youtu.be/PAh6w95Ggyw

I strongly suggest you to visit this thread in SSP: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=195238 .

I didn't want to make a picture based post, because it are just too much. Have fun peeps.

Hey folks, I have pics :cheer:

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6215/6339210430_73c9f3d7b6_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dancasner/6339210430/)
DSC_3284 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dancasner/6339210430/) by DanCasner (http://www.flickr.com/people/dancasner/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6098/6338453925_7a61935692_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dancasner/6338453925/)
DSC_3227 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dancasner/6338453925/) by DanCasner (http://www.flickr.com/people/dancasner/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6118/6338500811_3974fdb341_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dancasner/6338500811/)
DSC_3475 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dancasner/6338500811/) by DanCasner (http://www.flickr.com/people/dancasner/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6230/6339251634_49728ebc86_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dancasner/6339251634/)
DSC_3473 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dancasner/6339251634/) by DanCasner (http://www.flickr.com/people/dancasner/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6099/6338518669_55a520d482_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/14333661@N03/6338518669/)
Lower Manhattan Sunset, in orange accent (http://www.flickr.com/photos/14333661@N03/6338518669/) by truthinpassingx (http://www.flickr.com/people/14333661@N03/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6216/6341149866_88e707cf09_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/cbrodzky/6341149866/)
Freedom Tower in New York City (http://www.flickr.com/photos/cbrodzky/6341149866/) by cbrodzky (http://www.flickr.com/people/cbrodzky/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6048/6341041647_90e21c381f_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/abroadjz/6341041647/)
Freedom Tower looking up... (http://www.flickr.com/photos/abroadjz/6341041647/) by abroadjz (http://www.flickr.com/people/abroadjz/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6238/6341370545_7b7be5b923_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jsemonik/6341370545/)
NY_Freedom Tower_72 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jsemonik/6341370545/) by jim.semonik (http://www.flickr.com/people/jsemonik/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6034/6346319842_eec6342a02_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/14333661@N03/6346319842/)
1WTC Construction Close Up (http://www.flickr.com/photos/14333661@N03/6346319842/) by truthinpassingx (http://www.flickr.com/people/14333661@N03/), on Flickr

And the PA cam for the end :cheer:

http://oxblue.com/archive/487d07189e5fd2b7edce94fc0bcf4b68/800x600.jpg

Has anyone noticed that Google updated their sattelite shots of Ground Zero? It's probably summer 2011
Yes, they updated it few days before the 10th anniversary of the assassination.

Assassination? More so a terrorrist attack id say

assassination.

:doh:

btw, it grows really fast. I was wondering myself, when I saw the picture of the sunset. There it looks really high.:cheers:

It is really high,:) and it's still growing:banana:

I meant, higher than it is in reality :banana:

Yes, they updated it few days before the 10th anniversary of the assassination.

sorry, but I lol'd

http://mrsmcgowan.com/america/twintowers2.jpg

Nothing will ever be as Grand and Impressive as the Twin Towers.

http://mrsmcgowan.com/america/twintowers2.jpg

Nothing will ever be as Grand and Impressive as the Twin Towers.

Stop your lamenting.

Gettin' back on topic...

All photos by ericbowers (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ericbowers/) on Flickr, Tosspot on SSP (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=195238)

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6048/6346833046_b97d49518f_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ericbowers/6346833046/)
One World Trade Center Contstruction Aerials (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ericbowers/6346833046/) by ericbowers (http://www.flickr.com/people/ericbowers/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6117/6346832768_b27b0ed2c1_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ericbowers/6346832768/)
One World Trade Center Contstruction Aerials (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ericbowers/6346832768/) by ericbowers (http://www.flickr.com/people/ericbowers/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6102/6346832510_e1498d9c38_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ericbowers/6346832510/)
One World Trade Center Contstruction Aerials (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ericbowers/6346832510/) by ericbowers (http://www.flickr.com/people/ericbowers/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6221/6346081203_9399e3eb98_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ericbowers/6346081203/)
One World Trade Center Contstruction Aerials (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ericbowers/6346081203/) by ericbowers (http://www.flickr.com/people/ericbowers/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6113/6346831626_e66802ebaa_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ericbowers/6346831626/)
One World Trade Center Contstruction Aerials (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ericbowers/6346831626/) by ericbowers (http://www.flickr.com/people/ericbowers/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6100/6346080351_c06ee21d91_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ericbowers/6346080351/)
One World Trade Center Contstruction Aerials (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ericbowers/6346080351/) by ericbowers (http://www.flickr.com/people/ericbowers/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6224/6346830954_48176a0067_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ericbowers/6346830954/)
One World Trade Center Contstruction Aerials (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ericbowers/6346830954/) by ericbowers (http://www.flickr.com/people/ericbowers/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6232/6346830684_36823fea4e_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ericbowers/6346830684/)
One World Trade Center Contstruction Aerials (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ericbowers/6346830684/) by ericbowers (http://www.flickr.com/people/ericbowers/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6106/6346079523_2a31e7f7e7_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ericbowers/6346079523/)
One World Trade Center Contstruction Aerials (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ericbowers/6346079523/) by ericbowers (http://www.flickr.com/people/ericbowers/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6096/6346830164_ba92b15a0b_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ericbowers/6346830164/)
One World Trade Center Contstruction Aerials (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ericbowers/6346830164/) by ericbowers (http://www.flickr.com/people/ericbowers/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6119/6346829954_5e30b4d99e_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ericbowers/6346829954/)
One World Trade Center Contstruction Aerials (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ericbowers/6346829954/) by ericbowers (http://www.flickr.com/people/ericbowers/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6044/6346829684_7ab821db87_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ericbowers/6346829684/)
One World Trade Center Contstruction Aerials (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ericbowers/6346829684/) by ericbowers (http://www.flickr.com/people/ericbowers/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6099/6346078575_82086ca571_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ericbowers/6346078575/)
One World Trade Center Contstruction Aerials (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ericbowers/6346078575/) by ericbowers (http://www.flickr.com/people/ericbowers/), on Flickr

^^ ^^ ^^:bash:

1 WTC's 20-story base gets new glass design (http://www.crainsnewyork.com/article/20111115/REAL_ESTATE/111119917)
By Theresa Agovino
November 15, 2011 3:37 p.m.

A new plan to clad the base of 1 World Trade Center in glass was approved Tuesday bythe building's owner, the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, after technical problems forced the redesign of a previous scheme earlier this year.
Crain's reported this month that the Port Authority had reached a new design after the plan to enclose the 185-foot-tall concrete base in prismatic glass panels designed to reflect light were too difficult to make and shattered easily.
The Port Authority's board authorized $37.2 million towards project and contract costs. Permasteelisa North American Corp. will engineer, fabricate and install the new facade, which will consist of stainless steel slat panels around the building's concrete base, covered with glass fins. The glass fins will reflect light during the day, giving the building's base a distinctive look, the Port Authority said.
The new design is significantly less expensive than the original. In 2008, the Port Authority awarded an $82 million contract to manufacture and put up the glass, but it was unclear how much of that money was ever dispersed.
Installation of the redesigned façade will begin in 2013 and is expected to keep pace with the scheduled completion of the tower by the end of that year.
"The World Trade Center site continues to progress at a historic pace and approving this design is a cost-effective solution to a complex problem," Port Authority Chairman David Samson said in a statement. "It provides a practical way to cover the tower's secure base, and give it an innovative, inviting look for the thousands of workers who will be employed there and the millions of tourists who will visit it."
The design is the latest chapter in a saga to design the signature skyscraper at the World Trade Center site so it will be among the safest in the world because of its allure as a potential terrorist target yet at the same time be distinctive enough to symbolize the city's rebound from tragedy.
The massive concrete base is one of the building's major safety elements but it means that office space in the 1,776-foot tower doesn't start until the 20th floor. The challenge was to create a facade that did not look like a bunker and suggested movement, life and light where none existed. However, the panels of prismatic glass broke too easily. In an interview with Crain's earlier this year, tower architect David Childs, a consulting design partner at Skidmore Owings & Merrill, said, “It had to be a proud gesture to our resilience.”
Mr. Childs had to redesign the building back in 2005 when the New York Police Department voiced concerns about whether the tower could withstand a blast from a car bomb. A year later, Mr. Childs presented the plan with the glass-wrapped concrete base.

Awesome pics Otie :drool::master:

Btw, nice to hear news about the cladding bud I'm sad that we have to wait 'til 2013 to see it :cry:

They should clad the base with titanium.

Awesome pics Otie :drool::master:

Btw, nice to hear news about the cladding bud I'm sad that we have to wait 'til 2013 to see it :cry:



'13 is only 13 and 1/2 months away.

Assassination? More so a terrorrist attack id say

9/11 made the assassinations look like a picnic in a park.

http://mrsmcgowan.com/america/twintowers2.jpg

Nothing will ever be as Grand and Impressive as the Twin Towers.

While most of us would have been pleased to see the original towers rebuilt (to more robust, modern standards), it would have been insensitive to the poor souls that perished AND the thousands more relatives, friends & associates to build a replica, that would only serve as a reminder of the tragic event. A memorial surrounded by the, when completed, just as impressive buildings sounds about right.......

While most of us would have been pleased to see the original towers rebuilt (to more robust, modern standards), it would have been insensitive to the poor souls that perished AND the thousands more relatives, friends & associates to build a replica, that would only serve as a reminder of the tragic event. A memorial surrounded by the, when completed, just as impressive buildings sounds about right.......


It was just a tribute to the fantastic towers and I note that they were a great symbol of New York which this skyscraper wont be in the same way.

It lacks something unique. It can be located in any city in America or Asia. We have seen it in many cities around the world. In every Chinese city, there's something similar.

Twin Towers were unique.

And YES, I LOVE NEW YORK, Capitol of the World

:cheers:

^^

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-7rmfIn_kDeM/TWCBp5EMtWI/AAAAAAAAcSI/OSk-4nlEqek/s1600/new_hong_kong_night_skyline.jpg

Another great city , Hong Kong.

:cheers:

Thanks everybody for posting pictures of the progress. It's a lot of fun to see the progress of the ground zero area.

Does anyone know if there will be a observation deck on the top ? or inside ?

^Indoor, floors 100th, 101st and 102nd.

It was just a tribute to the fantastic towers and I note that they were a great symbol of New York which this skyscraper wont be in the same way.

It lacks something unique. It can be located in any city in America or Asia. We have seen it in many cities around the world. In every Chinese city, there's something similar.

Twin Towers were unique.

And YES, I LOVE NEW YORK, Capitol of the World

:cheers:

Ah! I see what you're getting at now.

Not that I want to take anything away from the Twin Towers, they were taller versions of the most modern Skycrapers of the time ie. Seagram Building. Having said that, building two tallest towers side-by-side was Symbolic & Very American :)

Speaking as a non-architect, just difficult to think of an alternative to the buildings being constructed. Like most actual-architects I guess :cheers:

Awesome pics Otie :drool::master:

Btw, nice to hear news about the cladding bud I'm sad that we have to wait 'til 2013 to see it :cry:

Yeah kind of disappointing, I was hoping to see it taking shape next year. Another year of looking at that bunker, oh well.

I'm disappointed they haven't even begun to manufacture the base cladding yet. For some reason I was under the impression it had been underway and we would see the first panels installed within a few months but I guess if it doesn't delay completion it's fine.

bottom cladding is one of the last things theyre going to do. sorry brah

Looks like it's almost at roof height. Great pics.

I still can't believe how big this is in person.

Looks like it's almost at roof height.

Nope. It's about 250 ft away yet.

That really sucks we won't see the base cladded for another year... :bash:

It would be great if someone had taken a picture of this tower from day 1 and when it is completed, they put them all together in fast forward :)

Base cladding is left till late on to avoid damage

Looks like it's almost at roof height. Great pics.

I still can't believe how big this is in person.

There are still 78 meters to go :cheers:

Roof height used below!

http://i43.************/a10cpj.jpg

Looks like it's almost at roof height. Great pics.

I still can't believe how big this is in person.

Lulz, wait until the whole complex is done. It will be massive. I think people underrate how massive and big this will be. It are virtually four supertalls, and two skyscrapers. Which is massive. And given the already built buildings, this could be one of the most amazing clusters in the whole world. AND it's "only" one of many skylines in that area.

Nice diagram

^^ Thanks :cheers:

West Side Highway in 10 years
November 2011 | July 2001
http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/660/unled1gdw.jpg

That really sucks we won't see the base cladded for another year... :bash:




Well the building won't be complete for another year or two anyway, so why all the fuss over the base?

Base cladding is left till late on to avoid damage

More likely, the reason why it hasn't been installed is because the original glass they were going to use failed the blast testing and they are having to use another system.

http://www.myfoxny.com/dpp/news/port-authority-scraps-prismatic-glass-facade-for-one-world-trade-center-20110512-apx

It doesn't get into specifics in this article, but since this facade is outside of the hardened concrete barrier in the attrium, it is intended to be destroyed by any significant street level blast. The concrete barrier would then prevent any of the glass from flying into the attrium. However, they don't want the glass to fragment into shards, but to turn into small pellets, like when a car window is busted. It's my understanding that the original facade was not doing this well enough.

It might be true that they don't want it damaged during construction, but I don't think this facade is any more likely to be damaged than the remainer of the facade that is already in place.

http://www.worldtravelimages.net/DSC06208.JPG

http://www.worldtravelimages.net/DSC06266.JPG

http://www.worldtravelimages.net/DSC06115.JPG

Look at the page from my website, with pictures from the WTC in August 2011 (the ones above are samples):

http://www.worldtravelimages.net/New_York_WTC.html

Lulz, wait until the whole complex is done. It will be massive. I think people underrate how massive and big this will be. It are virtually four supertalls, and two skyscrapers. Which is massive. And given the already built buildings, this could be one of the most amazing clusters in the whole world. AND it's "only" one of many skylines in that area.

Yes, it will also be possibly twice the size of the old world trade center. OR at least 1.5x the size due to shorter towers. I bet there will be a tower 6 that will be built at where the performing arts center will be. And the performing arts center will be the top of the tower.

West Side Highway in 10 years
November 2011 | July 2001
http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/660/unled1gdw.jpg

That's a nice angle, im glad they planted some trees.

Base cladding is left till late on to avoid damage

True, but this is significantly late, and will be installed in the final stages of the building's interior being completed as opposed to around the time the building tops out.

Hey folks, I have pics :cheer:

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6041/6349013708_bb644cf7b7_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kenpete/6349013708/)
Freedom Tower? (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kenpete/6349013708/) by photos11201 (http://www.flickr.com/people/kenpete/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6097/6349052464_ebdf16aee3_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bootbearwdc/6349052464/)
_MG_9231 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bootbearwdc/6349052464/) by dbking (http://www.flickr.com/people/bootbearwdc/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6103/6346593822_ff251139f6_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/vinschiano/6346593822/)
1 WTC - Freedom Tower (http://www.flickr.com/photos/vinschiano/6346593822/) by Vin Schiano (http://www.flickr.com/people/vinschiano/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6059/6345844909_0a881ce85d_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/vinschiano/6345844909/)
1 WTC - Freedom Tower (http://www.flickr.com/photos/vinschiano/6345844909/) by Vin Schiano (http://www.flickr.com/people/vinschiano/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6107/6346851995_dac2e4630f_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jherg424/6346851995/)
Freedom Tower, from West Street (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jherg424/6346851995/) by jherg424 (http://www.flickr.com/people/jherg424/), on Flickr

And the PA cam for the end :cheer:

http://oxblue.com/archive/487d07189e5fd2b7edce94fc0bcf4b68/800x600.jpg

^^ Why would you post the PA cam when you can't see anything on it? :lol: Anyways, hearing that we won't see base cladding for 2 years has really upset me. I was hoping we'd see it in just a few months! I also hope they put in the floor decking fast and put up 2 more floors. At the 91st floor would it have surpassed BofA?

Nice weather you folks have there :hahano:

Gettin' back on topic...

All photos by ericbowers (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ericbowers/) on Flickr, Tosspot on SSP (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=195238)

One World Trade Center Contstruction Aerials (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ericbowers/6346078575/) by ericbowers (http://www.flickr.com/people/ericbowers/), on Flickr

Stunning photos. This guy took great angles. :cheers:

2 years?!?
Im hoping the building will be opened within this time.

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6218/6350904395_5b4d4e1aa0_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/damiencgreen/6350904395/)
Dawn of a new era (http://www.flickr.com/photos/damiencgreen/6350904395/) by Damien C Green (http://www.flickr.com/people/damiencgreen/), on Flickr

Cool......

Great pic!
:cheers:

From WiredNYC

CBS New York
November 16, 2011

Port Authority Shows Off Glass For One World Trade Center

http://cbsnewyork.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/1wtcglass_111115_620_1.jpg
Sample of One World Trade Center Glass (credit: Port Authority)

http://cbsnewyork.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/1wtcglass_111115_620_2.jpg
One World Trade Center glass sample (credit: Port Authority)

http://cbsnewyork.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/1wtcnight_111115_620_1.jpg
Rendering of One World Trade Center base at night (credit: Port Authority)

http://cbsnewyork.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/1wtcdayrendering_111115_620_1.jpg
Rendering of One World Trade Center base during the day (credit: Port Authority)

http://cbsnewyork.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/1wtcnightlightsample_111115_620_1.jpg
One World Trade Center night lighting sample (credit: Port Authority)

The public was given a sneak peek Tuesday of what the base of the new One World Trade Center will look like once it’s completed in 2013.

The new design for the exterior cladding on One World Trade Center features horizontal stainless steel panels behind vertical glass fins going up the 20 stories of the fortress-like base.

“They will reflect light during the day and the night and give the building’s base a distinctive look,” said Port Authority executive director Patrick Foye on Tuesday. “In the evening, the combination of the water and the lights on the memorial pools we think, frankly, will be picked up by the glass on the podium at One World Trade Center and it’s consistent with the overall aesthetic of the site.”

Foye calls the concept superior aesthetically and cost-effective.

“It is going to save the Port Authority about $8-to-$12 million and the product will be manufactured by an Italian company located in Greenwich and Windsor, Connecticut,” he said on Tuesday.

©2011 CBS Local Media, a division of CBS Radio Inc. All rights reserved.

Awesome! :applause: Thanks for sharing!

just love the colour of the glass

Looks pretty good. I'm looking forward to seeing it on the base of the building.

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6218/6350904395_5b4d4e1aa0_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/damiencgreen/6350904395/)
Dawn of a new era (http://www.flickr.com/photos/damiencgreen/6350904395/) by Damien C Green (http://www.flickr.com/people/damiencgreen/), on Flickr

very beautiful picture! :cheers:
I am very pleased that the tower is coming to the top. :)

Wow, the glass looks amazing :drool:

Btw, I have new pics :cheer:

This is what I call a skyscraper, LOL, it's scraping the sky :banana2:

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6098/6351452549_d4da3ecdbd_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/sajorphoto/6351452549/)
Untitled (http://www.flickr.com/photos/sajorphoto/6351452549/) by SAJOR|PHOTO (http://www.flickr.com/people/sajorphoto/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6119/6352630319_1564513801_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/axle81401/6352630319/)
Lower Manhattan from New Jersey (http://www.flickr.com/photos/axle81401/6352630319/) by .:Axle:. (http://www.flickr.com/people/axle81401/), on Flickr

And the PA cam at the end :cheer:

http://oxblue.com/archive/487d07189e5fd2b7edce94fc0bcf4b68/800x600.jpg

From WiredNYC

Aren't the corners of the base cut to form triangles, cause in these renders the base looks like a cube?

The base on the glass renders seems to be missing the tapering on the corners, is that the way they're gonna do it or is it just a faulty render?

Edit: Beat to it, lol

If you read the article in WNY you will see that they cut the corners out of the base design. Its a shame, since now those triangles at the base are useless.

Love the glass, but I'm sort of sad to see that the design of the base is changing slightly so that it won't show off the triangles at the base. Not that the new design looks bad though.

I'm about to get pissed. What the fuck are they thinking, turning the base back into a cube?

I actually think 2 WTC will have more of an impact on the lower manhattan skyline than 1 WTC...Nethertheless, both look world class

It's disappointing to see just a square cube at the bottom. I really liked the chamfered corners. Still, the glass is pretty damn good. I just wish they'd kept the original shape...

In my opinion 1WTC looks far better with a cube base. I never liked those base triangles :cheers:

In my opinion 1WTC looks far better with a cube base. I never liked those base triangles :cheers:

You're nuts. :nuts:

I'm about to get pissed. What the fuck are they thinking, turning the base back into a cube?

They're just renderings, don't worry. Do you really think they would give up the chamfered corners, "intended as a subtle homage to the chamfered corners of the original Twin Towers"?

^^ LOL, I'm addicted to right angles :hahano: I just love 'em wherever they are :hahano:

Superbe New York, très classe !

The new base cladding also sort of represents the old WTC facade

Yea this sucks if the triangle corners are left out, they are subtle but i believe crucial to the design.

They're just renderings, don't worry. Do you really think they would give up the chamfered corners, "intended as a subtle homage to the chamfered corners of the original Twin Towers"?

No, we've already learned this lesson with tower 3. Why would the Port Authority approve and release renderings with such an obvious flaw? Believe me, I desperately want to be wrong about this.

Is there a way to contact the port authority re this base cladding design?

Is there a way to contact the port authority re this base cladding design?

http://www.panynj.gov/wtcprogress/contact_us.cfm

Good luck!

They're just renderings, don't worry. Do you really think they would give up the chamfered corners, "intended as a subtle homage to the chamfered corners of the original Twin Towers"?

There are no errors on those renderings, chamfered corners are gone... I reserve to add my thoughts about it.

Is there a way to contact the port authority re this base cladding design?


I would rather contact SOM (designer) & Permasteelisa(manufacturer). The PA just takes the contracting part. :okay:
somnewyork@som.com
hrnewyork@som.com
pna-info@permasteelisagroup.com

dbox
http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/4619/1wtc.jpg

encore
http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/390/encored.jpg


SOM November 2011 Fact sheet (http://www.som.com/common/images/wtc_press_kit/one.world.trade.center.fact.sheet.pdf)

The tower rises from a podium wall base whose square plan – 200 feet by 200 feet – is the same
size as the footprints of the original Twin Towers. The podium wall base is 186 feet tall and consists
of vertical laminated glass fins and horizontal stainless steel slats. The more than 4000 glass fins,
each measuring 13 feet 4 inches by two feet, are positioned at varying angles in a regular pattern
over the height of the podium. This pattern both accommodates ventilation for the mechanical levels
behind the podium wall, and in combination with a reflective coating refracts and transmits light to
create a dynamic, shimmering glass surface.

From Curbed:

http://ny.curbed.com/archives/2011/11/17/here_now_a_look_at_the_new_glassy_base_of_1wtc.php

http://ny.curbed.com/uploads/before%20and%20after%201WTC%20base.jpg

del

dbox
http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/4619/1wtc.jpg


Call me crazy but I think it looks better this way.

Same on me, I like it more than before.

it looks shorter and older....i dont like it

I didn't like the tapering in towards the bottom. I like the new design better.

It seems more out of place now, too square

And the diagonal columns cannot be seen anymore, like they could in the old render.

Whatever. It's just the podium, the important that the building is being built.

The new base design is awesome. The building already tapers enough. Besides, the building will look more massive from the ground and will give the viewer a better view of the full 205' wide footprint.

Early work

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6221/6356739391_3fe5554e9d_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/62018165@N04/6356739391/)
Glass fins at One World Trade Center podium (http://www.flickr.com/photos/62018165@N04/6356739391/) by Otie O'Daniel (http://www.flickr.com/people/62018165@N04/), on Flickr

So are they going to tear down the current corners to make way for the new design or are they going to leave them there? I feel the taper corners are better, more remeniscent of the Old Twin Towers. Oh well, the new cladding looks like the old twins anyways.

So are they going to tear down the current corners to make way for the new design or are they going to leave them there? I feel the taper corners are better, more remeniscent of the Old Twin Towers. Oh well, the new cladding looks like the old twins anyways.

Columns wll stay as they are, fins will only cover the chamfered corners. ;)

Something like this:
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6233/6356878879_1a6072ff32.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/62018165@N04/6356878879/)
Rendering test (http://www.flickr.com/photos/62018165@N04/6356878879/) by Otie O'Daniel (http://www.flickr.com/people/62018165@N04/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6049/6354988115_4affcc3a98_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ericbowers/6354988115/)
One World Trade Center Construction Aerials (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ericbowers/6354988115/) by ericbowers (http://www.flickr.com/people/ericbowers/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6055/6354987375_3cae76308d_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ericbowers/6354987375/)
One World Trade Center Construction Aerials (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ericbowers/6354987375/) by ericbowers (http://www.flickr.com/people/ericbowers/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6216/6354987835_923fba8a12_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ericbowers/6354987835/)
One World Trade Center Construction Aerials (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ericbowers/6354987835/) by ericbowers (http://www.flickr.com/people/ericbowers/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6228/6354988765_ba79d4c807_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ericbowers/6354988765/)
One World Trade Center Construction Aerials (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ericbowers/6354988765/) by ericbowers (http://www.flickr.com/people/ericbowers/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6036/6356757079_d9befa4367_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ericbowers/6356757079/)
One World Trade Center Construction Aerials (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ericbowers/6356757079/) by ericbowers (http://www.flickr.com/people/ericbowers/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6059/6356756611_155fcdf75d_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ericbowers/6356756611/)
One World Trade Center Construction Aerials (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ericbowers/6356756611/) by ericbowers (http://www.flickr.com/people/ericbowers/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6119/6356756061_6d3830278a_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ericbowers/6356756061/)
One World Trade Center Construction Aerials (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ericbowers/6356756061/) by ericbowers (http://www.flickr.com/people/ericbowers/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6102/6356755555_6c452b7458_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ericbowers/6356755555/)
One World Trade Center Construction Aerials (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ericbowers/6356755555/) by ericbowers (http://www.flickr.com/people/ericbowers/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6036/6356754477_55f5f33c30_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ericbowers/6356754477/)
One World Trade Center Construction Aerials (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ericbowers/6356754477/) by ericbowers (http://www.flickr.com/people/ericbowers/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6239/6354991669_7a6ea3d21a_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ericbowers/6354991669/)
One World Trade Center Construction Aerials (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ericbowers/6354991669/) by ericbowers (http://www.flickr.com/people/ericbowers/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6231/6354991141_6394a5e6af_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ericbowers/6354991141/)
One World Trade Center Construction Aerials (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ericbowers/6354991141/) by ericbowers (http://www.flickr.com/people/ericbowers/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6031/6354990463_c286998f30_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ericbowers/6354990463/)
One World Trade Center Construction Aerials (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ericbowers/6354990463/) by ericbowers (http://www.flickr.com/people/ericbowers/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6045/6354989539_e7ecaa3223_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ericbowers/6354989539/)
One World Trade Center Construction Aerials (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ericbowers/6354989539/) by ericbowers (http://www.flickr.com/people/ericbowers/), on Flickr

Regarding the new base cladding, I think it is a nice nod to the twin towers. square and vertical lines. :)

There are no errors on those renderings, chamfered corners are gone... I reserve to add my thoughts about it.

Sorry there, Otie. ^^; Guess I should have kept my mouth shut. I just assumed it was a mistake like in the new Tower 3 illustration (it shows an inaccurate profile of Tower 2).

http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/4619/1wtc.jpg

It does look beautiful in that rendering; like a castle in the sky.

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6215/6357078181_072cdd81df_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/8379824@N07/6357078181/)
Beacon of Light (http://www.flickr.com/photos/8379824@N07/6357078181/) by beanhead4529 (http://www.flickr.com/people/8379824@N07/), on Flickr

I didn't like the tapering in towards the bottom. I like the new design better.

I agree, this new design looks great! I really disliked those Charlie Brown zig-zaggy designs on the base too, so I'm glad that will be masked.

Are we talking about this previous version?

http://static.flickr.com/77/202631900_047ba88411_o.jpg
Source: SOM/LLP


The new look is quite an improvement, I think.

I agree, this new design looks great! I really disliked those Charlie Brown zig-zaggy designs on the base too, so I'm glad that will be masked.

Stll there...
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6049/6356847431_f13c28575a_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/62018165@N04/6356847431/)
Fins at One World Trade Center (http://www.flickr.com/photos/62018165@N04/6356847431/) by Otie O'Daniel (http://www.flickr.com/people/62018165@N04/), on Flickr

I also did a quick model of what we can expect from the new base design. I will post a better render later, when i finish all the details, and set the colors right.

http://s1.directupload.net/images/111118/wqol2xwb.jpg

Great photos!

The aerial photos are perfect for determining the progress of construction. I hope we'll continue to see such photos in the future cause they are awesome :master:

Great model germantower! Which software do you use?

^^ google Sketchup 8 and kerkythea, plus Photoshop cs5 for the cropping :D. The modelling took me 10 minutes, the rendering 3 hours, fml.

who else noticed that it just passed the point of construction where the very tip of the current cladding and very tip of the current roof are the same but are 45 deprees turned from each other?

^^ Nobody:tongue2:, but that should be celebrated.:dance:

wow nice pics.

I also did a quick model of what we can expect from the new base design. I will post a better render later, when i finish all the details, and set the colors right.


I'm impressed. Keep 'em coming!

dbox
http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/4619/1wtc.jpg
encore
http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/390/encored.jpg
SOM November 2011 Fact sheet (http://www.som.com/common/images/wtc_press_kit/one.world.trade.center.fact.sheet.pdf)
Call me crazy but I think it looks better this way.

Fkn oath. Looks more cleaner and organised now. New base does well considering its near identical apperance to 7WTC base.

Also appears the spire has gone on a diet. Looks more slim and less looking as a fat tadpole.

What Floor level are they at now? Thanks

Stll there...


Err, where? Unless I'm blind, I don't see the zig-zag with this new cladding.

So are they going to tear down the current corners to make way for the new design or are they going to leave them there? I feel the taper corners are better, more remeniscent of the Old Twin Towers. Oh well, the new cladding looks like the old twins anyways.

How are the tapered corners reminiscent of the Twins? They didn't have tapered corners.

Just drove up to Newark from Philly today for a settlement conference. I love how you can see 1WTC creeping out from McCarter Highway (Rt. 22). Wish I wasn't driving or else I'd snap some photos - safety first!

How are the tapered corners reminiscent of the Twins? They didn't have tapered corners.

I think he was referring to their being slightly cut off at the corners. The twins' footprints weren't just squares, the had a slight cutoff at the edge. Not too noticeable though.

Collective collection from just an hour ago. From the Liberty Earth cam

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http://i40.************/11rf7nb.jpg
http://i41.************/11sysgk.jpg
http://i39.************/2v0baq8.jpg

What Floor level are they at now? Thanks

Floor 89. Next jump will be the double sized floor 90 :cheers:

yeh! almost 15 fl. to go! When is the expected finnishing day of the tower?

Stll there...


I don't quite see them anymore...

How are the tapered corners reminiscent of the Twins? They didn't have tapered corners.

Actually, the Twin Towers did have chamfered corners..

http://heritage.com/content/articles/2011/09/13/heritagewest/news/doc4e6a6119133504940783221.jpg

It's kind of difficult to tell, but look at their edges. They're not "straight".

Err, where? Unless I'm blind, I don't see the zig-zag with this new cladding.


I was refering to the pleated pattern created by the rotated panels. ;)
http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6225/6361475255_9954bbf922_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/62018165@N04/6361475255/)
Angled panels (http://www.flickr.com/photos/62018165@N04/6361475255/) by Otie O'Daniel (http://www.flickr.com/people/62018165@N04/), on Flickr

Yes, columns won't be visible, and they won't be either at night. LEDs will get attached to the slots. The only way columns can get visible is by moving these LEDs to a few feet inside the podium, or leaving them as they are but removing the ones that are located just in front of the structure:

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6116/6361249443_023cf3098f_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/62018165@N04/6361249443/)
One WTC Podium Night Scene (http://www.flickr.com/photos/62018165@N04/6361249443/) by Otie O'Daniel (http://www.flickr.com/people/62018165@N04/), on Flickr

I don't quite see them anymore...
And you won't see them, unless you get a chance to help Mr. Window Washer do his job :lol:

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6118/6361226027_4d9b715cc9_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/62018165@N04/6361226027/)
Glass fins close-up (http://www.flickr.com/photos/62018165@N04/6361226027/) by Otie O'Daniel (http://www.flickr.com/people/62018165@N04/), on Flickr

yeh! almost 15 fl. to go! When is the expected finnishing day of the tower?

More likely 10 real floors and 3 mezzanines. Topping out by 1st Q 2012, curtain wall at mid-2012 and interior work done by the end of 2013 :okay:

my WTC pics from yesterday...

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6052/6361289615_a48227f39c_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/42178139@N06/6361289615/)
DSC08478 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/42178139@N06/6361289615/) by Nexis4Jersey09 (http://www.flickr.com/people/42178139@N06/), on Flickr


http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6100/6361284459_211360a934_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/42178139@N06/6361284459/)
DSC08449 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/42178139@N06/6361284459/) by Nexis4Jersey09 (http://www.flickr.com/people/42178139@N06/), on Flickr

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6229/6361283541_a6e570a734_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/42178139@N06/6361283541/)
DSC08445 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/42178139@N06/6361283541/) by Nexis4Jersey09 (http://www.flickr.com/people/42178139@N06/), on Flickr

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6094/6361280447_edbdd1e198_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/42178139@N06/6361280447/)
DSC08431 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/42178139@N06/6361280447/) by Nexis4Jersey09 (http://www.flickr.com/people/42178139@N06/), on Flickr

dumb question but will the new pedestal cladding have different color schemes like the top of the empire state building?

like sometimes, it can be colored differently for different occasions?

sorry...for the badly phrased question...i am typing this at 4am after coming home from clubbing and totally drunk :)

Topping out by 1st Q 2012

You seem do not get what T/O means.. It will be T/O when the spire is build, so I guess not in 1st Q 2012, but something like 2012 Q3 or Q4, right?

^^ Indeed, if all floors are ready still it takes months to build the spire.

You seem do not get what T/O means.. It will be T/O when the spire is build, so I guess not in 1st Q 2012, but something like 2012 Q3 or Q4, right?

I think he meant roof height topping out. In my opinion topping out can have both roof height and pinnacle height meaning :cheers:

since the spire is architectural, does it mean topping out must include the spire?

^^ yes.

You seem do not get what T/O means.. It will be T/O when the spire is build, so I guess not in 1st Q 2012, but something like 2012 Q3 or Q4, right?

It's just semantics, but you're right, officially a building tops out when the last structural steel is placed at the top of the overall framework. So yes, finishing the perimeter columns by 1st Q 2012 (this means the top of the structural roof) and topping out (antenna construction) by Autumn 2012.

Imagine: A building is topped out and the opening of the building has already been. But 3 years later, the owners decide to increase the top. Than the building is topped out twice.

The new design for the cladding of the base is terrible! The building now looks like it's been designed by three separate groups that never talk to each other. I've never thought the spire worked with the rest of the design and now the podium and the rest of the building don't work together in either! :ohno::ohno: What are these architects thinking, or not thinking, whichever the case may be!

^^ Maybe Childs didn't design it, maybe he has gotten the design from an ogre :hilarious

http://entertainment.upperdeck.com/ArticleImages/WoW/two-headed-ogre.gif

^^ :spam1:

^^ LOL, I just had to :hilarious

Btw, I have new pics :cheer:

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6119/6352630319_1564513801_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/axle81401/6352630319/)
Lower Manhattan from New Jersey (http://www.flickr.com/photos/axle81401/6352630319/) by .:Axle:. (http://www.flickr.com/people/axle81401/), on Flickr

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6042/6355702469_b69e1ef04c_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/16626964@N08/6355702469/)
SUNSET ON MANHATTAN (http://www.flickr.com/photos/16626964@N08/6355702469/) by Blyths Folly (http://www.flickr.com/people/16626964@N08/), on Flickr

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6116/6356107983_2bf5d70a5a_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/46711012@N03/6356107983/)
Freedom tower, under construction. (http://www.flickr.com/photos/46711012@N03/6356107983/) by lovlee1 (http://www.flickr.com/people/46711012@N03/), on Flickr

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6227/6356536043_7645615a5a_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/40296589@N02/6356536043/)
Freedom Tower NYC (http://www.flickr.com/photos/40296589@N02/6356536043/) by 2saycheese (http://www.flickr.com/people/40296589@N02/), on Flickr

And the PA cam at the end :cheer:

http://oxblue.com/archive/487d07189e5fd2b7edce94fc0bcf4b68/800x600.jpg

I think the new base design is a lot more refined and suits the complex better :)

The new design for the cladding of the base is terrible! The building now looks like it's been designed by three separate groups that never talk to each other. I've never thought the spire worked with the rest of the design and now the podium and the rest of the building don't work together in either! :ohno::ohno: What are these architects thinking, or not thinking, whichever the case may be!

A little overly critical are we?

By GreenwichBoy,

http://wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14469&d=1321735963

[I posted the following re: the new base design, on SSP yesterday]

On the one hand, I never really liked the chamfered corners, so this cubic design appeals to me. The glass and steel look awesome, IMO. I love the greater verticality of it.

I am a little disappointed though, that the steel structure of the base will now not be expressed externally at all, as on the corners of the rest of the tower, even though I never liked the design.

Because we all know what the underlying structure is, this new facade will likely always seem more like a draped curtain (albeit of glass and steel) than an actual wall to me. If this un-chamfered cube had been the design from the beginning, with steel structure to match, this would probably not be the case.

Joe Woolhead (http://www.joewoolhead.com/home/)'s blog (http://www.joewoolhead.com/home/2011/11/16/site-photos-october-2011/)

http://www.joewoolhead.com/home/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/IMG_1344-650x433.jpg

http://www.joewoolhead.com/home/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/4J9Z9360-433x650.jpg

http://www.joewoolhead.com/home/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/IMG_0105-650x433.jpg

[I posted the following re: the new base design, on SSP yesterday]

On the one hand, I never really liked the chamfered corners, so this cubic design appeals to me. The glass and steel look awesome, IMO. I love the greater verticality of it.

I am a little disappointed though, that the steel structure of the base will now not be expressed externally at all, as on the corners of the rest of the tower, even though I never liked the design.

Because we all know what the underlying structure is, this new facade will likely always seem more like a draped curtain (albeit of glass and steel) than an actual wall to me. If this un-chamfered cube had been the design from the beginning, with steel structure to match, this would probably not be the case.

Someday we'll forget, it'll be okay ;)

Especially because the underlying structure is butt ugly

ugh I hate how fat the bottom is compared with the top but at least it's only from some angles.

ugh I hate how fat the bottom is compared with the top but at least it's only from some angles. it only looks like that because of the angle.

Can sombebody explain what do these signs mean?

Expat
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6110/6273952200_a8e8e78cc7_b.jpg
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6057/6273411847_531973779f_b.jpg

MUCH better at the base now!

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6216/6366671759_2e1c401408_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/14333661@N03/6366671759/)
Freedom Tower Construction 11/19/11 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/14333661@N03/6366671759/) by truthinpassingx (http://www.flickr.com/people/14333661@N03/), on Flickr

MUCH better at the base now!

Agreed. It reminds me about the old WTC cladding.

MUCH better at the base now!

I 1000% agree with you, it is good they scrapped the cut of corners from the design :cheers:

Btw, isn't the next jump taking them a bit too long to make? Iirc it is now several weeks since the last jump. I wonder what causes those delays :dunno:

Oh, and I have a small pic update :cheer:

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6032/6365263585_8ae7b39427_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/thoth1618/6365263585/)
Freedom Tower (http://www.flickr.com/photos/thoth1618/6365263585/) by thoth1618 (http://www.flickr.com/people/thoth1618/), on Flickr

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6213/6368822721_f1ff46497b_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ricosierra/6368822721/)
Freedom Tower construction (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ricosierra/6368822721/) by RicoSierra (http://www.flickr.com/people/ricosierra/), on Flickr

Can sombebody explain what do these signs mean?

Expat
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6110/6273952200_a8e8e78cc7_b.jpg
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6057/6273411847_531973779f_b.jpg

Road works signs

Beautiful in any case.

keep rising :)

Beautiful images. I have missed a lot for the past months of my absence from here.

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6097/6365644091_36ca05433e_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/thoth1618/6365644091/)
Freedom Tower (http://www.flickr.com/photos/thoth1618/6365644091/) von thoth1618 (http://www.flickr.com/people/thoth1618/) auf Flickr

from this angle it reminds me of shanghai WFC :)

^^ LOL, me too :hilarious

what is the height of the building now ?? :)
Greetings from Polish :)

Really starting to pierce through the skyline now. Looks wonderful.

If i see pics from the workplace on the tower I always ask myself why everyone chalk lyrics on the metal.

Took this shot yesterday from Grand Ferry Park in Brooklyn. http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh35/giantatom/NYCKS11010.jpg
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh35/giantatom/grandferry2.jpg
^^For comparison purposes^^

what is the height of the building now ?? :)
Greetings from Polish :)

Roof height used below!

http://i43.************/a10cpj.jpg

1WTC = 340 meters or 1115 feet out of 418 meters or 1371 feet
4WTC = Approximately 217 meters or 712 feet out of 298 meters or 977 feet Important note: The height of 4WTC shown in the diagram is wrong, I draw it when it was thought that 4WTC already has steel for the first two setback floors! This was later shown to not be true but I already edited the drawing! The height that is stated here (below the diagram) is the right one!
1 57 = Approximately 153 meters or 502 feet out of 306 meters or 1005 feet

(Note: I used the 418 meter figure for 1WTC when measured from the lowest above ground entrance and I used the 298 meter figure for 4WTC.) :cheers:

^Just answer the damn question.

Everyone look at the statue of liberty harbor cam. Goldman sachs has really scaled down their lighting for once.

^Just answer the damn question.

Hahaha, for real.

11.20.2011
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Hey folks, I have pics :cheer:

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New York City, New York (http://www.flickr.com/photos/snapskim/6370175297/) by Dave_and_Kim (http://www.flickr.com/people/snapskim/), on Flickr

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New York City, New York (http://www.flickr.com/photos/snapskim/6370174735/) by Dave_and_Kim (http://www.flickr.com/people/snapskim/), on Flickr

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6056/6370251281_5a5484fd46_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/36781452@N02/6370251281/)
Freedom tower (http://www.flickr.com/photos/36781452@N02/6370251281/) by lown_c (http://www.flickr.com/people/36781452@N02/), on Flickr

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6225/6370447199_fe16381f48_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jonny_wood/6370447199/)
Freedom Tower (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jonny_wood/6370447199/) by Jonny Wood (http://www.flickr.com/people/jonny_wood/), on Flickr

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6211/6372042935_e5a762a4b0_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/browntideguy/6372042935/)
Checking out The Freedom Tower. #USA (http://www.flickr.com/photos/browntideguy/6372042935/) by GBoneillo (http://www.flickr.com/people/browntideguy/), on Flickr

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6217/6373844639_5c69ddf619_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/14333661@N03/6373844639/)
Lower Manhattan Blues (http://www.flickr.com/photos/14333661@N03/6373844639/) by truthinpassingx (http://www.flickr.com/people/14333661@N03/), on Flickr

And the PA cam at the end :cheer:

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Fantastic visualization Otie! :okay: Did you also render the lower section with the entrance?


And thank you for sharing the images, Kanto!

cool pics!

What about the entrances? Will that covering go all the way to small one level doorways, or will the huge openings be all glass?

There will be huge openings on all 4 sides, these "openings" go all the way up to the bottom of the 3rd floor slab, a cable-net wall will be featured in every entrance. Notice that on this SOM rendering the former prismatic glass is shown.

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By massforma (http://www.flickr.com/photos/massforma/)

Took this shot yesterday from Grand Ferry Park in Brooklyn.

^^For comparison purposes^^

That image gave me a slight shiver :( I remember watching the second plane crash from that very point on tv

Fantastic visualization Otie! :okay: Did you also render the lower section with the entrance?


I'll eventually model it; let me have some free time to dig for information and get done this lower section, I never guess on projects like these and the price to pay for such accuracy is really high. ;)

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Lower Manhattan Blues (http://www.flickr.com/photos/14333661@N03/6373844639/) by truthinpassingx (http://www.flickr.com/people/14333661@N03/), on Flickr

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Nightfall in NYC from the 32nd Floor (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kristafogle/6378097881/) by kmf221 (http://www.flickr.com/people/kristafogle/), on Flickr

oh my, i really like that angle. feel like the quality could be better but thats prob one of my fav photos yet.

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Otie, can you create a texture of what the site will look like in 2018, maybe when wtc5 is built.

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They've certainly taken something that was going to be a very nice looking building and made it B___ F___ing UGLY! :ohno:

They've certainly taken something that was going to be a very nice looking building and made it B___ F___ing UGLY! :ohno:

You could be a little more nice...

I like the base (not as much as the old one), but what can you do? I'm sure Otie worked hard on that render. It's amazing.

Yeah that render is great. You can't blame the design, as there are very real concerns with security, so they have to do what they can.

I still like the skin of the 9/11 Museum, for 1 WTC base.

it looks really cheap :/

Please don't discuss other projects at the WTC site here, we have separate threads for those! Thanks.

The render is great. It's going to give some great sun reflections...:banana:

Personally, I like the base. But it needs more oomph. I liked the previous, zig zag design of the older base, and this newer base just looks odd. But hey, that's just my opinion.

1 WTC was the center of attention in most of the SNF blimp shots.

Personally, I like the base. But it needs more oomph. I liked the previous, zig zag design of the older base, and this newer base just looks odd. But hey, that's just my opinion.

So you like it, but you think it looks odd?

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One World Trade Center 2 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/11041238@N00/6380707529/) by awordsmith (http://www.flickr.com/people/11041238@N00/), on Flickr

Hey folks, I have pics :cheer:

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6119/6378944487_63419689ed_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/13969107@N08/6378944487/)
Freedom Tower (http://www.flickr.com/photos/13969107@N08/6378944487/) by Thor Carlson (http://www.flickr.com/people/13969107@N08/), on Flickr

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6093/6379955669_6d8f9a2433_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/22530845@N03/6379955669/)
Freedom Tower (http://www.flickr.com/photos/22530845@N03/6379955669/) by ~ Life As I See it ~ (http://www.flickr.com/people/22530845@N03/), on Flickr

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6221/6384957237_67ffc7fd81_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/53900169@N05/6384957237/)
freedom tower, NY (http://www.flickr.com/photos/53900169@N05/6384957237/) by Heald photography (http://www.flickr.com/people/53900169@N05/), on Flickr

And the PA cam for the end :cheer:

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Yeah that render is great. You can't blame the design, as there are very real concerns with security, so they have to do what they can.
I agree security is a major concern but they already have the concrete blast walls inside. The curtain walls are just for decoration, these will not really provide any more strength than the original design. They just look terrible and really make this building look like three separate designs stacked together!
I still like the skin of the 9/11 Museum, for 1 WTC base.
It certainly would look much better than this.

1 WTC was the center of attention in most of the SNF blimp shots.

Yeah I noticed that too. That was the only thing positive about that entire game.

:cripes:

Yeah it may have been a crappy game for the giants. But for wtc lots of publicity.

The official roof height of 1WTC is 1368' or 1371 also ~1400' for the communication ring and 1776' or 1787' for the spire?

The roof slab is at 1334' 8", top of parapet at 1368'; the 3rd ring is at 1401' 5"; the top of beacon is at 1776' and the radome enclosure to 1784'.
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*All figures measured from main lobby entrance, add 3'4" to any number if you wanna measure from north entrance. :okay:

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One WTC Numbers (http://www.flickr.com/photos/62018165@N04/6226559805/) by Otie O'Daniel (http://www.flickr.com/people/62018165@N04/), on Flickr

Hope this answers your questions ;)

I wouldn't ask for those, and a great building doesn't mean it had to has a twin.
My intention was simply if it was a taller copy of WTC. ;)
Dont act like an idiot next time!!!

I agree, but there's no room on the site for another building.

The roof slab is at 1334' 8", top of parapet at 1368'; the 3rd ring is at 1401' 5"; the top of beacon is at 1776' and the radome enclosure to 1784'.
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Otie, you're amazing! It's so accurate. Thank you for posting.

Simply a great tower. I wish if it had a twin!!!

I feel the same way... It's beautiful without one, though.

The roof slab is at 1334' 8", top of parapet at 1368'; the 3rd ring is at 1401' 5"; the top of beacon is at 1776' and the radome enclosure to 1784'.


Hope this answers your questions ;)
I dunno but shouldn't the north entrance height be regarded as the main height measurement?

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Nightfall in NYC from the 32nd Floor (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kristafogle/6378097881/) by kmf221 (http://www.flickr.com/people/kristafogle/), on Flickr

Absolutely amazing angle...

this has to be the best view of downtown Manhattan... I soooo wish people will use this angle more often and in better quality...

One of my all time favorite angles! More of that please! :banana:

^^ I agree. I have never seen an angle that makes downtown look so dense.

^^ Υeah, absolutely... its funny, because 9 out of 10 downtown Manhattan photos are from the same 2-3 spots all the time. Either from Jersey or the Brooklyn Bridge or just from lady Liberty.

Not that we dont like these, we love them ofcourse, but we are used to them so much. This view is fresh and kudos to the guy who took it. It simply looks amazing and I seriously prefer it than any other!

^^ Yeah, I love the view too even though 1WTC isn't very dominating in it :cheers:

^^ Υeah, absolutely... its funny, because 9 out of 10 downtown Manhattan photos are from the same 2-3 spots all the time. Either from Jersey or the Brooklyn Bridge or just from lady Liberty.

Not that we dont like these, we love them ofcourse, but we are used to them so much. This view is fresh and kudos to the guy who took it. It simply looks amazing and I seriously prefer it than any other!

Agreed - Brooklyn Heights/DUMBO really provides a great vantage point, but this amazing image was taken high up from one of the residential highrises (along Cadman Plaza I believe) - which is why you haven't seen many. The views from the promenade and waterfront have 1WTC either hidden or not as high as even the Gehry. It's a tougher shot for random tourists and residents.

Agreed - Brooklyn Heights/DUMBO really provides a great vantage point, but this amazing image was taken high up from one of the residential highrises (along Cadman Plaza I believe) - which is why you haven't seen many. The views from the promenade and waterfront have 1WTC either hidden or not as high as even the Gehry. It's a tougher shot for random tourists and residents.

Spectacular photo !!!

^^ Yeah, I love the view too even though 1WTC isn't very dominating in it :cheers:

It will certainly be dominating once it reaches parapet height. Look at it in the photo, and now add 200+ feet to it.

So you like it, but you think it looks odd?

Sorry, that was a typo. I meant to say that I didn't like it. :cheers:

Pardon me for not knowing, but in a previous post someone said the Ironworkers aren't working overtime anymore because they are owed 10 weeks in "stamps". What exactly does that mean???:dunno::dunno::dunno:

Hi all.

The roof slab is at 1334' 8", top of parapet at 1368'; the 3rd ring is at 1401' 5"; the top of beacon is at 1776' and the radome enclosure to 1784'.
http://img849.imageshack.us/img849/7776/244t.jpg

*All figures measured from main lobby entrance, add 3'4" to any number if you wanna measure from north entrance. :okay:

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6176/6226559805_7801511b68_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/62018165@N04/6226559805/)
One WTC Numbers (http://www.flickr.com/photos/62018165@N04/6226559805/) by Otie O'Daniel (http://www.flickr.com/people/62018165@N04/), on Flickr

Hope this answers your questions ;)

Hi Otie.

That's the kind of stuff that needs to be posted - bravo.

The council will surely measure from the finished floor at the threshold of the North entrance (the lowest, significant, open-air, pedestrian entrance).

1787' 4" - 544.78 meters - height to architectural top
1795' 4" - 547.22 meters - height to tip

As I tried to convey to someone here months ago, 1776 will not play a factor in any official measurement.

As a side note;
Are the 3' 4" lower numbers as per the plans ?
I thought the plans have elevation 0.00 as an average finished floor height of the ground level and not the F/F at the threshold of the main lobby entrance ?

:cheers:
Ray.

As a side note;
Are the 3' 4" lower numbers as per the plans ?
I thought the plans have elevation 0.00 as an average finished floor height of the ground level and not the F/F at the threshold of the main lobby entrance ?


I used the main lobby floor as the starting point in order to not to confuse people, since almost all of them aren't interested in the true elevations.
In prints, the finished main lobby floor is at El. 311'-2"; as you may know, zero elevation is 300' below mean high tide at Battery Park Point. All PA projects use this as basis so they don't have to deal with negative numbers like in tunnels.
I can't confirm the exact elevation of the north entrance since Zensteeldude didn't publish on his Flickr Photostream any prints displaying this section; however he did shared some prints with STR, who stated himself that north entrance is at El. 307'-10" a couple of months ago.
One other thing, the lightning rod height was a completely guess doing a pixel analyisis with the diagram released by ArchRecord. The final arrangement can vary from any set of prints.

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Nightfall in NYC from the 32nd Floor (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kristafogle/6378097881/) by kmf221 (http://www.flickr.com/people/kristafogle/), on Flickr

In my opinnion this rarely aprecciated angle is LM's best. I remember I once saw it before driving up brooklyn bridge but couldn't snap a nice quality shot.

Thanks for sharing and sorry for quote despiting it already was.

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One WTC (http://www.flickr.com/photos/yvan/6391296711/) von yvan h (http://www.flickr.com/people/yvan/) auf Flickr

Another fantastic panoramas of new York.

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1WTC lost in the clouds yesterday.

(Trump, Soho in foreground).

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1WTC today, Thanksgiving Day.

Don't know if this one was posted before, but that's a nice a view;

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6116/6379171595_e259492bf9_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ericbowers/6379171595/)
One World Trade Center Construction Aerials (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ericbowers/6379171595/) by ericbowers (http://www.flickr.com/people/ericbowers/), on Flickr

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One World Trade Center (http://www.flickr.com/photos/11041238@N00/6380628317/) by awordsmith (http://www.flickr.com/people/11041238@N00/), on Flickr

I think the 1WTC diagram at SSP should be changed from 417 meters / 1368 feet to 418 meters / 1371 feet since this is how the CTBUH will measure it's height :cheers:

Btw hey folks, I have pics :cheer:

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6233/6385215191_0887823c17_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/specialkrb/6385215191/)
1 World Trade Center (http://www.flickr.com/photos/specialkrb/6385215191/) by SpecialKRB (http://www.flickr.com/people/specialkrb/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7030/6395422943_c28f98bbf7_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jmv0586/6395422943/)
Freedom tower 2 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jmv0586/6395422943/) by jmv0586 (http://www.flickr.com/people/jmv0586/), on Flickr

And the PA cam at the end :cheer:

http://oxblue.com/archive/487d07189e5fd2b7edce94fc0bcf4b68/800x600.jpg

Hi all.

I used the main lobby floor as the starting point in order to not to confuse people, since almost all of them aren't interested in the true elevations.
In prints, the finished main lobby floor is at El. 311'-2"; as you may know, zero elevation is 300' below mean high tide at Battery Park Point. All PA projects use this as basis so they don't have to deal with negative numbers like in tunnels.
I can't confirm the exact elevation of the north entrance since Zensteeldude didn't publish on his Flickr Photostream any prints displaying this section; however he did shared some prints with STR, who stated himself that north entrance is at El. 307'-10" a couple of months ago.
One other thing, the lightning rod height was a completely guess doing a pixel analyisis with the diagram released by ArchRecord. The final arrangement can vary from any set of prints.

Hi Otie.

Thanks for the response.

That PA zero elevation is also 297.37 feet below NGVD1929 datum, which is a hybrid model of the mean sea level from 26 tide guages and a set of elevations of all bench marks resulting from the adjustment of 1929.

STR has the lightning rod at 5 feet in one of his labeled drawings, so 1792 height to tip.
We'll see what the official measure turns out to be.

Looks like the 1787 height to arch. top is a good bet though.

:cheers:
Ray.

was driving home tonight over the GWB and saw the top half of it, it's going to look great from that angle when it's completed, with the beacon on the spire.

You got it, Ray.

Got new pics :cheer:

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7172/6392140799_d43072635b_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/lucasasteratakis/6392140799/)
A beacon of hope in the city that never sleeps (http://www.flickr.com/photos/lucasasteratakis/6392140799/) by LucasAeon (http://www.flickr.com/people/lucasasteratakis/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7144/6395421629_d45b2e1501_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jmv0586/6395421629/)
Freedom tower 3 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jmv0586/6395421629/) by jmv0586 (http://www.flickr.com/people/jmv0586/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7030/6395422943_c28f98bbf7_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jmv0586/6395422943/)
Freedom tower 2 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jmv0586/6395422943/) by jmv0586 (http://www.flickr.com/people/jmv0586/), on Flickr

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6119/6396246531_b0c65a7487_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/22943615@N06/6396246531/)
freedom tower (http://www.flickr.com/photos/22943615@N06/6396246531/) by kevindaly24 (http://www.flickr.com/people/22943615@N06/), on Flickr

About time for the next two floors?
Or are the next floors the beginning of the taller floors...

About time for the next two floors?
Or are the next floors the beginning of the taller floors...

Yes, the 90th and 91st are both 21' tall. The current floor there building (the 89th) is 23' high.

Yes, the 90th and 91st are both 21' tall. The current floor there building (the 89th) is 23' high.

Hmm figured that much.
Thanks for varifying and hopefully we see good progress.

^^ LOL, lately we didn't see good progress. It's nearly a month since the last jump. Is this big 23' floor really that complicated to build? :cry:

I hope once it goes up the next few mech floors and observation floors go up faster

great up date ,should the heading say 1795 foot now because of all this new info about the tip height ?

We'd rather go for the architectural top: 1787'

@Kanto: This photos are taken in summer, right?
Haven't you found more current pics?

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6232/6401284379_46af9331fa_b.jpg
Photo by dbifulco (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bifulco/)

^^ According to their description on flickr they are all less than a week old :dunno:

Was running on the boardwalk on Brighton beach today and saw 1 wtc form back ground and something caught my eye something was shining on top of 1 wtc roof today does anybody know what that object was .

I see that too from staten island. Not sure exactly...

Today's "Rise of Freedom" on Fox News looks at the iron workers at 1WTC, quite interesting: http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/rise-of-freedom/index.html#/v/1247450900001/rise-of-freedom-lady-liberty/?playlist_id=161320

http://www.flickr.com/photos/bytegirl/6391757269/sizes/o/in/photostream/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/bytegirl/6402373797/sizes/o/in/photostream/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/digitaldeviant/6391801241/sizes/l/in/photostream/

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7009/6401384295_6fa877f040_b.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7149/6401292035_9573278419_b.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7007/6401387607_673629a75d_b.jpg
Photos by dbifulco (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bifulco/)

^^ Very cool and unique pictures, thanks for sharing :)

GReat Pictures!!! :-)

^^ According to their description on flickr they are all less than a week old :dunno:

Well, I think they're uploaded a week ago, but taken are this pictures in summer...

@Otie: Wonderful facade Photos! :drool: Love it!

^^ I just checked them, they really are new. Both my new pics and other's new pics show the cladding to be slightly above 7WTC, which means they were all taken at the same time :cheers:

^^Hm, very strange.
I don't understand why this trees are green and the people are wearing short trousers in that photo.
That's unusual for November, isn't it?

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7162/6401666783_976465c674_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/51065334@N04/6401666783/)
World Trade Center - New York (http://www.flickr.com/photos/51065334@N04/6401666783/) by Stickars (http://www.flickr.com/people/51065334@N04/), on Flickr

^^Hm, very strange.
I don't understand why this trees are green and the people are wearing short trousers in that photo.
That's unusual for November, isn't it?

Yeah, that's weird. I just checked on flickr, their description says they're from the 24th November and the status of 1WTC is according to it. But this sunny and apparently hot weather look like straight outta summer or maximaly early fall. Maybe the New Yorkers on this forum could tell us what's the weather over there :dunno:

Btw, I have pics :cheer:

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7006/6402843761_64a61e7f8f_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/highdefsmitty/6402843761/)
Freedom Tower Rises (http://www.flickr.com/photos/highdefsmitty/6402843761/) by HighDefSmitty (http://www.flickr.com/people/highdefsmitty/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7001/6405308705_2d58da06d1_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/imageinvader/6405308705/)
the freedom tower (http://www.flickr.com/photos/imageinvader/6405308705/) by imageinvader (http://www.flickr.com/people/imageinvader/), on Flickr

And the PA cam at the end :cheer:

http://oxblue.com/archive/487d07189e5fd2b7edce94fc0bcf4b68/800x600.jpg

^^ Cool pics.
Well, might be that the weather is great and sunny, but November is November, in less than 1 month is chistmas and they've green trees? Hm, I don't know what I shall believe..

It's been 60 and sunny the past two days, which is very good timing for the holiday weekend.

Where will the tower be at when I visit in Febuary? :)

If winter doesn't get tough, you shall probably see the last perimeter columns being installed above the roof slab.

From Jersey City yesterday

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http://i424.photobucket.com/albums/pp322/DZH22/NYC%20Views/IMG_0716.jpg

out the back window as we drove away...

http://i424.photobucket.com/albums/pp322/DZH22/NYC%20Views/IMG_0729.jpg

A few from yesterday, November 25, 2011:

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6233/6409292333_fddca056f9_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bostoncitywalk/6409292333/)
1 World Trade Center - Construction - New York City (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bostoncitywalk/6409292333/) by BostonCityWalk (http://www.flickr.com/people/bostoncitywalk/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7171/6409291481_a43f68e12a_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bostoncitywalk/6409291481/)
1 World Trade Center - Construction - New York City (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bostoncitywalk/6409291481/) by BostonCityWalk (http://www.flickr.com/people/bostoncitywalk/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7023/6409290583_8bd482e1f2_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bostoncitywalk/6409290583/)
1 World Trade Center - Construction - New York City (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bostoncitywalk/6409290583/) by BostonCityWalk (http://www.flickr.com/people/bostoncitywalk/), on Flickr

A few more from yesterday, November 25, 2011:


http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6213/6409290027_e733fa4b38_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bostoncitywalk/6409290027/)
1 World Trade Center - Construction - New York City (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bostoncitywalk/6409290027/) by BostonCityWalk (http://www.flickr.com/people/bostoncitywalk/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7004/6409289297_679b24b3a9_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bostoncitywalk/6409289297/)
One World Trade Center - Facade - New York City (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bostoncitywalk/6409289297/) by BostonCityWalk (http://www.flickr.com/people/bostoncitywalk/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7015/6409288431_c0a75c460f_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bostoncitywalk/6409288431/)
One World Trade Center - Facade - New York City (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bostoncitywalk/6409288431/) by BostonCityWalk (http://www.flickr.com/people/bostoncitywalk/), on Flickr

One final from yesterday.


http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6052/6409287521_c8201d909e_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bostoncitywalk/6409287521/)
1 World Trade Center & Seven World Trade Center - Facades - Construction - New York City (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bostoncitywalk/6409287521/) by BostonCityWalk (http://www.flickr.com/people/bostoncitywalk/), on Flickr

Oh my Libeskind, these conspiracy freaks have less intelligence than average plantlife. I'm amazed that they even know how to breathe :weird:

But let's go back on topic, I have new pics :cheer:

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6239/6408335033_77819b9df7_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/14333661@N03/6408335033/)
Freedom Tower Construction 11/26/11 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/14333661@N03/6408335033/) by truthinpassingx (http://www.flickr.com/people/14333661@N03/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7034/6408331483_94f0372e0f_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/14333661@N03/6408331483/)
Freedom Tower Construction 11/26/11 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/14333661@N03/6408331483/) by truthinpassingx (http://www.flickr.com/people/14333661@N03/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7144/6407243965_1bab5be34c_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/oscar311/6407243965/)
Freedom Tower (http://www.flickr.com/photos/oscar311/6407243965/) by cal 311 (http://www.flickr.com/people/oscar311/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7033/6406650209_b9ae81d36c_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/24691400@N04/6406650209/)
The Freedom Tower rises over southern Manhattan (http://www.flickr.com/photos/24691400@N04/6406650209/) by RossSheingold (http://www.flickr.com/people/24691400@N04/), on Flickr

And the PA cam at the end :cheer:

http://oxblue.com/archive/487d07189e5fd2b7edce94fc0bcf4b68/800x600.jpg

When is WTC 1 expected to surpass Empire State Buildling's roof height ?
-seems like the proposed date is really close

And much more important: What's the current roof height?

yeh what is it?

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7144/6407243965_1bab5be34c_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/oscar311/6407243965/)
Freedom Tower (http://www.flickr.com/photos/oscar311/6407243965/) by cal 311 (http://www.flickr.com/people/oscar311/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7147/6412136583_75596b8c87_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/joquint/6412136583/)
Empire State (http://www.flickr.com/photos/joquint/6412136583/) by Jo Quint (http://www.flickr.com/people/joquint/), on Flickr

^^ Why do you repost the same info and diagram every two pages? It makes no sense! A simple "It is 340m tall atm" is more than enough!!!!

I agree with you. It's nice, that you wanna give a lot of information but I didn't ask:"Where's a new diagram from Kanto?" I just wanted to know the current roof height.

Indeed. Please stop this madness Kanto.


Anyway, why don't they feature a display for 1WTC at the construction site, telling passengers what height it's at? You see such displays at most of the skyscraper constructions in Frankfurt (Germany).

LOL, sorry folks, I just wanted to be helpfull :dunno:

Das neue WTC sieht echt cool aus. :)

The new WTC is very cool. :D

One World Trade Center is the same height it's been for the last month and that is (1,107' 8") and with the splice (1,111' 8"). However, the perimeter steel looks to be a bit shorter than the core steel is right now so I'm guessing that it's about at (1,100') because some of those columns exceed the 4' splice. Basically the core columns are at floor 89 so we should expect some new steel this week if the weather permits and that should bring the steel to about floor 90 (1,130' 8"). Hope this answers all your questions. What sucks is that I don't think it will hit 1,200' this year because we're falling a bit behind and there is only one more month left in 2011 so I'm guessing we should wrap the year up with either the 91st (1,151' 8") or 92nd floors (1,181' 8"). Mechanical floors take more time I mean look at how long Tower 4's mechanical floor is taking. It is still unclear if floors 89 & 90 are office or mechanical so we'll wait and see. This year has been great so at least in 2012 we finally get back to the height we were at up until September 11th, 2001.