whats the height of the core ?

10 floors below the steel erection, 80th, 986' 8"

FROM: NYBOY75

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DreaQasv3ms

FROM: NYBOY75

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5PRKz8Zo6o

Thanks for the pics and vids!

FROM: NYBOY75

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIXAaI2vtsg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7162/6489139879_93ab2cc91e_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/nikigunn/6489139879/)
NW One World Trade Center under construction (http://www.flickr.com/photos/nikigunn/6489139879/) by Niki Gunn (http://www.flickr.com/people/nikigunn/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7150/6488407387_cbce073a24_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/d80noobee/6488407387/)
Freedom Tower (http://www.flickr.com/photos/d80noobee/6488407387/) by PixelGrower (http://www.flickr.com/people/d80noobee/), on Flickr

A few pics I took today (Dec 10, 2011) while visiting the WTC Memorial:

http://www.cwcphotography.com/photos/i-5CkSQVk/2/X2/i-5CkSQVk-X2.jpg

http://www.cwcphotography.com/photos/i-zvxNtNG/2/X2/i-zvxNtNG-X2.jpg

http://www.cwcphotography.com/photos/i-SPM8p38/2/X2/i-SPM8p38-X2.jpg

http://www.cwcphotography.com/photos/i-fBSK4jg/2/XL/i-fBSK4jg-XL.jpg

http://www.cwcphotography.com/photos/i-4CsJGjh/2/X2/i-4CsJGjh-X2.jpg

:cucumber: Amazing pictures !!! NY wonderful & magical city )

The first Kanto picture of Manhattan is epic!!

FROM: NYBOY75

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXLdvqUIBz8

FROM: NYBOY75

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zkl6g3PL8lc

10 December 2011
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very nice pics kanye! :cheers:

LOL, Santas invade the WTC :hilarious

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Freedom Tower (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kevinbrannan/6490654329/) by kevin brannan (http://www.flickr.com/people/kevinbrannan/), on Flickr

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Amazing

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That's an absolute beauty of a picture of the world's best skyline.

FROM: NYBOY75

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3S23orsnnK4

December 11th, 2011

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wow no words ... just wow

^^ those are words. But the pictures are pretty good

this is quickly becoming a landmark of America! :)

NYCD which lens and camera do you use?

Just epic!

The glass is beautiful.

Going back to the floor numbering, lowermanhattan.info (http://www.lowermanhattan.info/construction/project_updates/freedom_tower_26204.aspx) says we're already above floor 91.. others stated some pages before that Kanto's pic below is right.. so what is correct?

*The following information was last updated on December 9, 2011

- Facade installation is now above floor 67
- Tower steel is now above floor 91. It is expected to top out in the first quarter of 2012.
- Concrete is now being installed above floor 84

I will borrow KenFromJersey's pic for my question. Is this how the floors are:
http://i42.tinypic.com/t71vtd.jpg

this is quickly becoming a landmark of America! :)
no question about it:banana:

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/374591_566833459713_67200206_31726404_550553345_n.jpg

11 December 2011
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https://store.ctbuh.org/p-91-future-...0-in-2020.aspx (https://store.ctbuh.org/p-91-future-tallest-20-in-2020.aspx) Just to make people aware of the new catergory.

The Glass adds a really nice ethereal quality to it. That and the angle the facades slope up at make this appear to be a genuinely massive crystal shard from space !

Going back to the floor numbering, lowermanhattan.info (http://www.lowermanhattan.info/construction/project_updates/freedom_tower_26204.aspx) says we're already above floor 91.. others stated some pages before that Kanto's pic below is right.. so what is correct?

*The following information was last updated on December 9, 2011

- Facade installation is now above floor 67
- Tower steel is now above floor 91. It is expected to top out in the first quarter of 2012.
- Concrete is now being installed above floor 84

They've messed with the numbers, the current steel is at 90th (1130' 8" above the main lobby floor), or to the splices at ~1140'.

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Under Construction at Ground Zero (http://www.flickr.com/photos/21066820@N06/6499144229/) by jefg99 (http://www.flickr.com/people/21066820@N06/), on Flickr

came across this, kooljoe's rendering from last year

http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/7922/201012252.jpg

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=419362&page=927

sorry for asking; height 345m?

I'm just wondering, how long does it take to install 1 floor of glass facade?

BTW i'm new to skyscraper city :)

I'm just wondering, how long does it take to install 1 floor of glass facade?

BTW i'm new to skyscraper city :)

Welcome to SSC!

They average about a floor a week for the glass.

came across this, kooljoe's rendering from last year

http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/7922/201012252.jpg

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=419362&page=927

Why the windows are green? According to pictures on this topic, the windows are blue.

^^ Because it's a rendering from a year ago. The facade was probably still TBD.

Why the windows are green? According to pictures on this topic, the windows are blue.

The windows aren't blue, they simply reflect the color of the sky. The building will look different depending on the time of day, weather, etc. (it will look more gray if it's cloudy, stuff like that)

came across this, kooljoe's rendering from last year

http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/7922/201012252.jpg

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=419362&page=927

If you were to take this pic seriously, the tower is leaning towards the photog's location.

^ mhmm.

no question about it:banana:

May GOD save the Freedom Tower!

The Free World will never forget! The Free World will never forgive!

This is an amazing structure! I will venture to call it the country's first 21st century landmark! Go New York! No other skyline will ever compare (in quality and diversity)... Big props to the forumers keeping the world updated!

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IMG_4876 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/13933131@N08/6503871833/) by speakerchad (http://www.flickr.com/people/13933131@N08/), on Flickr

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IMG_4864 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/13933131@N08/6503840027/) by speakerchad (http://www.flickr.com/people/13933131@N08/), on Flickr

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IMG_4842 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/13933131@N08/6503757713/) by speakerchad (http://www.flickr.com/people/13933131@N08/), on Flickr

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IMG_4839 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/13933131@N08/6503748991/) by speakerchad (http://www.flickr.com/people/13933131@N08/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7170/6502347501_5c3df537e1_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/canyouspelljoe/6502347501/)
Untitled (http://www.flickr.com/photos/canyouspelljoe/6502347501/) by canyouspelljoe (http://www.flickr.com/people/canyouspelljoe/), on Flickr

When will it overtake the height of the ESP?

When will it overtake the height of the ESP?

In 2012.

they are saying the bulding will be up early 2012 cant wait to see her :):cheers::nuts:

The windows aren't blue, they simply reflect the color of the sky. The building will look different depending on the time of day, weather, etc. (it will look more gray if it's cloudy, stuff like that)

this is a recording :cheers:

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This is jaw-dropping! just look at that skyline!!!!!!!!! it's perfect:cheers:

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Untitled (http://www.flickr.com/photos/canyouspelljoe/6502347501/) by canyouspelljoe (http://www.flickr.com/people/canyouspelljoe/), on Flickr

This is jaw-dropping! just look at that skyline!!!!!!!!! it's perfect:cheers:[/QUOTE]

It looks amazing! Nice Job

^^ What a picture ... :drool:

Screenshots taken a few minutes ago.

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Mesmerizing to say the least
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At just the right moment in time
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Earthcam. World Trade Center Cams. http://www.earthcam.com/usa/newyork/worldtradecenter/?cam=tower1 . EarthCam, Inc

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Untitled (http://www.flickr.com/photos/canyouspelljoe/6502347501/) by canyouspelljoe (http://www.flickr.com/people/canyouspelljoe/), on Flickr
Amazing pic! Thank you!:cheers:

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I htink they should temporarily light the freedom tower red (top) and green (bottom) for christmas eve night for christmas colors. I think they will do that with the empire state building too.

I htink they should temporarily light the freedom tower red (top) and green (bottom) for christmas eve night for christmas colors. I think they will do that with the empire state building too.

They did something like that last year

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Screenshots taken a few minutes ago.


At just the right moment in time
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Earthcam. World Trade Center Cams. http://www.earthcam.com/usa/newyork/worldtradecenter/?cam=tower1 . EarthCam, Inc

Can someone show draw the remaining top of the building from this specific perspective?

Really looking forward to watching this building rise.

Can somebody post some specs or links?http://www.mazatlanspa.info/jh2.jpg
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13 December 2011
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My WTC pics from Yesterday...

1.
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DSC09389 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/42178139@N06/6508724275/) by Nexis4Jersey09 (http://www.flickr.com/people/42178139@N06/), on Flickr

2.
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DSC09384 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/42178139@N06/6508722925/) by Nexis4Jersey09 (http://www.flickr.com/people/42178139@N06/), on Flickr

3.
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DSC09241 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/42178139@N06/6508680895/) by Nexis4Jersey09 (http://www.flickr.com/people/42178139@N06/), on Flickr

4.
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DSC09214 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/42178139@N06/6508673599/) by Nexis4Jersey09 (http://www.flickr.com/people/42178139@N06/), on Flickr

5.
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DSC09430 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/42178139@N06/6508734071/) by Nexis4Jersey09 (http://www.flickr.com/people/42178139@N06/), on Flickr

Already 2nd tallest in NYC?

Already 2nd tallest in NYC?

I believe so, its already close to 350 meters. The ESB is only 380 meters

you forgot th bank of america tower which spire is still a bit higher.

giant steel, concrete and glass christmas tree! :)

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7175/6509127725_38817d6bcc_b.jpg

Kayne, those photos are superb!

Love the candy cane lights!

Steel, concrete and glass Christmas trees. My favorite! :D

giant steel, concrete and glass christmas tree! :)

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The tallest Christmas tree in the world!!!! :banana:

That is looking awesome. Love it!

15 December 2011
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Those are the Pics!!! Nicely done with those colors, is it done with filters on the windows or color lights?

Hey folks, I have new pics :cheer:

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7170/6497552455_bf76412eff_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tony_wasserman/6497552455/)
Freedom Tower and Cranes - December 2011 - NYC (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tony_wasserman/6497552455/) by BlueVoter (http://www.flickr.com/people/tony_wasserman/), on Flickr

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December 12 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/terryballard/6500203879/) by terryballard (http://www.flickr.com/people/terryballard/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7143/6500360201_a340fbc01a_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/photog_diane/6500360201/)
Freedom Tower, part 2 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/photog_diane/6500360201/) by photog diane (http://www.flickr.com/people/photog_diane/), on Flickr

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Freedom Tower, part 1 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/photog_diane/6500362523/) by photog diane (http://www.flickr.com/people/photog_diane/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7170/6502347501_5c3df537e1_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/canyouspelljoe/6502347501/)
Untitled (http://www.flickr.com/photos/canyouspelljoe/6502347501/) by canyouspelljoe (http://www.flickr.com/people/canyouspelljoe/), on Flickr

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Christmas lights for the Freedom Tower #nyc (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mariejoelleparent/6503084457/) by Marie-Joelle-Parent (http://www.flickr.com/people/mariejoelleparent/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7151/6504934197_30d314ea4c_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dougalug2005/6504934197/)
Freedom Tower/1 WTC (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dougalug2005/6504934197/) by Doug NY (http://www.flickr.com/people/dougalug2005/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7016/6506453409_79aa436fbe_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/pmarella/6506453409/)
Manhattan Sunrise (http://www.flickr.com/photos/pmarella/6506453409/) by pmarella (http://www.flickr.com/people/pmarella/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7172/6508845189_07bee09e6c_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jeremyfountain/6508845189/)
1 World Trade Center (Freedom Tower) - Manhattan NYC (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jeremyfountain/6508845189/) by jeremy.fountain (http://www.flickr.com/people/jeremyfountain/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7175/6509127725_38817d6bcc_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tony_wasserman/6509127725/)
Freedom Tower and Cranes - Holiday Lights - NYC (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tony_wasserman/6509127725/) by BlueVoter (http://www.flickr.com/people/tony_wasserman/), on Flickr

And the PA cam at the end :cheer:

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http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7005/6514498711_33286f5af5_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ericbowers/6514498711/)
Manhattan, New York (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ericbowers/6514498711/) by ericbowers (http://www.flickr.com/people/ericbowers/), on Flickr

Those are the Pics!!! Nicely done with those colors, is it done with filters on the windows or color lights?

Color lights I guess, since the uncladded floors have them too.

http://www.usgnn.com/news1WTC20111214.htm

"One WTC Pedestal to Feature Triple-Laminated Glass from Interpane
December 14, 2011
By Sahely Mukerji

The newly designed exterior cladding system of One World Trade Center that will cover the 185-foot tall secure base will be triple laminated, says Kenneth A. Lewis, project manager and director of Skidmore, Owings & Merrill (SOM) LLP in New York, the architect on the project. "It's low-iron glass with acid-etched finish on the #6 surface," he says. "The total area of laminated glass fins is approximately 106,000 square feet, all triple layer, so, the total glass used is about three times [that], about 318,000 square feet." Interpane Glas of Germany manufactured the glass, which features its Ipasol Bright White coating on #2 and #3 surfaces.

"The nature of the new design of the pedestal is to maintain in David Child's intention," Lewis says. Childs designed the original prismatic glass base of the tower. "We wanted to make it reflecting and refracting, in a luminescent kind of way, with an active surface, depending on the angle you're looking at," Lewis says. "The 13-foot 3-inch fins open and close, and are nominally 24 inches in depth. The fins are all fixed, but depending on where the viewer sees the wall the surface appearance changes. From the corners they are flat, but they open up toward the center, from flat to 60 degrees. Near the bottom the glass is flat, but as it goes up, it also opens up and then closes as it meets the tower shaft creating continuity between the two surfaces..."

http://www.usgnn.com/images/newsWTC1podium20111214.jpg

Great info there, thanks Spectre for posting it!

What a hassle.:D

It's interesting because in that picture it looks like the base is now squared off completely forming a cube, instead of having the tapered octagonal edges that originally met at the start of the office floors.

I wonder how they'll get the corners to end up looking like that?

I assume the panels don't have to be flush against the building.

It's interesting because in that picture it looks like the base is now squared off completely forming a cube, instead of having the tapered octagonal edges that originally met at the start of the office floors.

I wonder how they'll get the corners to end up looking like that?

The base cladding will be a cube, the tapered octagon edges were scrapped.

Btw, I have more pics :cheer:

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7171/6511428841_5e785545f1_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/sethelgart/6511428841/)
Freedom Tower at "only" 80 stories so far (http://www.flickr.com/photos/sethelgart/6511428841/) by sethelgart (http://www.flickr.com/people/sethelgart/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7032/6516088175_25b162a0bd_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/21940052@N03/6516088175/)
NYC Dec 2011-20 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/21940052@N03/6516088175/) by obriese (http://www.flickr.com/people/21940052@N03/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7152/6516448931_d7336a92e1_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/76158145@N00/6516448931/)
1789-memorial1WTC-1600 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/76158145@N00/6516448931/) by sfmthd (http://www.flickr.com/people/76158145@N00/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7026/6516449971_deb86e9f50_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/76158145@N00/6516449971/)
1562-oneWTC-1600 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/76158145@N00/6516449971/) by sfmthd (http://www.flickr.com/people/76158145@N00/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7026/6516449715_94192803e4_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/76158145@N00/6516449715/)
1451-wtcSite-1600 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/76158145@N00/6516449715/) by sfmthd (http://www.flickr.com/people/76158145@N00/), on Flickr

Came upon this page today.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/incredible-views-from-the-new-world-trade-center

http://s3-ak.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/terminal05/2011/12/14/14/enhanced-buzz-wide-7191-1323889585-23.jpg

http://s3-ak.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/web05/2011/12/14/14/enhanced-buzz-wide-5688-1323889648-21.jpg

http://s3-ak.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/web03/2011/12/14/14/enhanced-buzz-wide-19204-1323889880-9.jpg

WoW!
Last 2 pics are just awesome.

There's a post on the SSP forum that workers at 1wtc did not get their paychecks today and they are striking tomorrow. Anyone got more info on this? Bad news if it's true....:bash::bash::bash:

There's a post on the SSP forum that workers at 1wtc did not get their paychecks today and they are striking tomorrow. Anyone got more info on this? Bad news if it's true....:bash::bash::bash:

There are little birds talking about how the erector is significantly behind on the ironworker benefits payment and that is causing some problems.

But this is hearsay, I have no evidence to corroborate this.

I find it hard to believe that the political nature of this project would allow it to get shut down.

http://s3-ak.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/web05/2011/12/14/14/enhanced-buzz-wide-5688-1323889648-21.jpg

http://s3-ak.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/web03/2011/12/14/14/enhanced-buzz-wide-19204-1323889880-9.jpg

:applause: Above the clouds...:cheers:

There's a post on the SSP forum that workers at 1wtc did not get their paychecks today and they are striking tomorrow. Anyone got more info on this? Bad news if it's true....:bash::bash::bash:


no kidding...

http://www.joewoolhead.com/home/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/IMG_1344-650x433.jpg

Oh please don't tell me that they don't pay the workers again. We had this situation in summer already. What is this PA thinking? :rant:

Came upon this page today.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/incredible-views-from-the-new-world-trade-center

http://s3-ak.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/terminal05/2011/12/14/14/enhanced-buzz-wide-7191-1323889585-23.jpg

http://s3-ak.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/web05/2011/12/14/14/enhanced-buzz-wide-5688-1323889648-21.jpg

http://s3-ak.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/web03/2011/12/14/14/enhanced-buzz-wide-19204-1323889880-9.jpg

These photos illustrate why Windows on the World need to be seriously reconsidered in the future.

^^That's right.

These photos illustrate why Windows on the World need to be seriously reconsidered in the future.

I 1000% agree with you, a meal with this view would be pure awesomeness :drool::banana2:

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I 1000% agree with you, a meal with this view would be pure awesomeness :drool::banana2:

Yeah if you're not scared of heights, otherwise there would be a lot of this :puke: going on, in my case!

^^ I actually am scared of heights but only if I'm standing somewhere unprotected. But if I'm protected behind a window or even outside behind a railing I'm perfectly fine with any height :cheers:

Nice view and nice photoes.

How many floors will it actually have when build?
I can read the "108" in the title but afaik this is a pure marketing number. I see 105 on wikipedia and 104 at CTBUH but I think to remember from this thread that it has only about 80.
And can we change please the title of thread to the correct number?

As requested by erbse, trees are work in progress. Anyone interested, visit my thread (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=86726417#post86726417). :okay:

http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/9022/b03l.jpg

How many floors will it actually have when build?
I can read the "108" in the title but afaik this is a pure marketing number. I see 105 on wikipedia and 104 at CTBUH but I think to remember from this thread that it has only about 80.
And can we change please the title of thread to the correct number?

It has 85 real floors with 9 mezzanines.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7152/6516448931_23c3ccb266_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/76158145@N00/6516448931/)
1789-memorial1WTC-1600 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/76158145@N00/6516448931/) by sfmthd (http://www.flickr.com/people/76158145@N00/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7162/6502571553_c54ef6aea1_b.jpg
historygradguy (jobhunting)

in the future this will be the tallest building in New York?

^^ How far away is your future?
The next ten years?...Of course
The next 50 years?...I'm sure ther will be another supertall which one is beating OWTC.
But maybe there won't be one, I'm no psychic. ;)

^^ How far away is your future?
The next ten years?...Of course
The next 50 years?...I'm sure ther will be another supertall which one is beating OWTC.
But maybe there won't be one, I'm no psychic. ;)

the way we are ruining this planet and possible future wars we may not have another 50 years so we should appreciate 1 wtc .

^^ That's true. If WW3 would erupt it would be most probably the end of all of us :goodnight

But let's go to something more optimistic, I have new pics :cheer:

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7175/6514326527_b6cff47ba9_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bytegirl/6514326527/)
going on (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bytegirl/6514326527/) by bytegirl24 (http://www.flickr.com/people/bytegirl/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7026/6516449971_a8f55fa3f3_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/76158145@N00/6516449971/)
1562-oneWTC-1600 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/76158145@N00/6516449971/) by sfmthd (http://www.flickr.com/people/76158145@N00/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7026/6516449715_197abb3e7b_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/76158145@N00/6516449715/)
1451-wtcSite-1600 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/76158145@N00/6516449715/) by sfmthd (http://www.flickr.com/people/76158145@N00/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7175/6518680147_ef8ac53df7_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/roccocell/6518680147/)
WORLD TRADE CENTER | HOLIDAY LIGHTS (CLOSEUP) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/roccocell/6518680147/) by roccocell (http://www.flickr.com/people/roccocell/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7005/6518679977_7f5ceed1f2_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/roccocell/6518679977/)
WORLD TRADE CENTER | HOLIDAY LIGHTS (SIXTEEN ACRES) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/roccocell/6518679977/) by roccocell (http://www.flickr.com/people/roccocell/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7019/6523968295_3e1a0f2627_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/max-tim-tom/6523968295/)
Freedom Towers (http://www.flickr.com/photos/max-tim-tom/6523968295/) by Gandalf. (http://www.flickr.com/people/max-tim-tom/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7025/6523973213_ddfcf24cda_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/max-tim-tom/6523973213/)
Freedom Towers (http://www.flickr.com/photos/max-tim-tom/6523973213/) by Gandalf. (http://www.flickr.com/people/max-tim-tom/), on Flickr

Btw, awesome render Otie. Though I think they made a mistake making the cladding as they plan to make it. I think it would look far better if it were made from normal glass pannels all directly fused to the walls like in the case of the normal above base cladding :dunno:

I have new pics :cheer:
Sorry, but most of them are always reposts. :yawn:

^^ Oops, I'm sorry if some of them are reposts, I didn't notice it :doh:

FROM: NYBOY75

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UH16fgmlI0I

the way we are ruining this planet and possible future wars we may not have another 50 years so we should appreciate 1 wtc .

Man, we should stay at least a little optimistic! :doh:
Would everyone have the same minds like you...Good night!

back to topic. Nice pics.

Btw, awesome render Otie. Though I think they made a mistake making the cladding as they plan to make it. I think it would look far better if it were made from normal glass pannels all directly fused to the walls like in the case of the normal above base cladding :dunno:

The design and arrangement of the fins were done in such a way that "plays" with the rest of the building: at the center they'll "close" as much as 60 degrees, at the corners and the near bottom they'll open creating a flat surface, architects did this to create a transition between the base and the main facade. This test render should give you an idea, though the bottom is wrong, those panels should be almost completely flat:

http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/7421/88945210.jpg

^^ Thank you very much for the render. It looks to be a quite complicated arrangement, I can't wait to see how it will reflect/refract light once it's done :cheers:

Very nice Otie!!!

FROM: NYMAN2010

http://www.flickr.com/photos/51949497@N08/6526742907/in/photostream

Dear forumers, i have a quastion for you. Do you know a part of Manhattan between downtown and the central park where there are not so many skyscrapers?Will in this part of city be built some skyscrapers in near time?

^^ Iirc definitely not in the forseeable future :cheers:

Dear forumers, i have a quastion for you. Do you know a part of Manhattan between downtown and the central park where there are not so many skyscrapers?Will in this part of city be built some skyscrapers in near time?

Not any time soon because the bedrock for mounting a foundation is too far below the surface from about 30th down to Canal to be a smarter economical move than building in midtown or lower manhattan.

Interesting views/perspective of WTC Towers 1 and 4 from the top of the 1913 era Woolworth bldg.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKlKq34F8B4&NR=1&feature=endscreen

Not any time soon because the bedrock for mounting a foundation is too far below the surface from about 30th down to Canal to be a smarter economical move than building in midtown or lower manhattan.

That having been said, there must be zoning laws now to avoid free riders to build high enough to take advantage of the open line of sight offered in that area of manhattan.. Right?

Interesting views/perspective of WTC Towers 1 and 4 from the top of the 1913 era Woolworth bldg.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKlKq34F8B4&NR=1&feature=endscreen

That's awesome! Thanks for posting.

Interesting views/perspective of WTC Towers 1 and 4 from the top of the 1913 era Woolworth bldg.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKlKq34F8B4&NR=1&feature=endscreen

Good but it's from August!

Compared to some supertall's extreme poor cladding, that of 1WTC once again really is a reference, truly awesome.:)

That having been said, there must be zoning laws now to avoid free riders to build high enough to take advantage of the open line of sight offered in that area of manhattan.. Right?

Yup. Zoning laws basically prohibit high rise construction outside of Midtown and The Financial District.

FROM: NYBOY75

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPSwb--CMHE

^^ Thanks for the link - great view :)

Manhattan as seen from Stamford, Connecticut (54 km/34 miles away from 1WTC) with 1 WTC in the middle of the photo :cheers:

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r48/Athinaios/IMG_1992.jpg

amazing how far away you can see new york from

I took this photo today, actually it was the first time when I could see the City from Stamford. The photo was taken from 25th floor apartment at Trump Parc, the view is really amazing, way better than on this photo. ;)

amazing how far away you can see new york from

...just curious. What is the farthest point NYC can be seen from? And don't say..."it can be seen from the space station":lol:

Supposedly, Baltimore can be seen from the Washington Monument in DC, about 40 miles, with buildings only a third of the hieght. I'm thinking from land for NYC, not from out in the ocean somewhere.

...just curious. What is the farthest point NYC can be seen from?

Yeah, I'm also interested about that!
btw, great pic
and NYBOY thanks for these videos!

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historygradguy (jobhunting)

This is an amazing picture, it looks like an old picture of New York with the Twins. :banana:

^^ it does. Even the crane looks like the old spire now.

...just curious. What is the farthest point NYC can be seen from? And don't say..."it can be seen from the space station":lol:

Supposedly, Baltimore can be seen from the Washington Monument in DC, about 40 miles, with buildings only a third of the hieght. I'm thinking from land for NYC, not from out in the ocean somewhere.

NJ and Ct are visible, but so are parts of Pennsylvania.

Up and Up it goes!!! :) its looking better everyday. Keep up the momentum.

Yup. Zoning laws basically prohibit high rise construction outside of Midtown and The Financial District.

Thanks. But, then, did One Madison Avenue had to get some sort of waiver/variance (plus neighboring air rights), or is it that the prohibition against high rises ends at 23rd street?

A bit off topic. What was the more popular view point on top of the towers back in the day- twin towers or ESB?

ESB was still more used in movies from my observations(lol get it?) idk about who had statistically more people though.

I also think the ESB has more visitors.

The ESB historically had more visitors, but the WTC also had plenty of visitors.

Especially considering it was the only place in town where you could get a rooftop view in all directions without a suicide fence in the way.

From: http://cryptome.org/wtc-south-tower-roof.jpg

http://i807.photobucket.com/albums/yy354/mrjenkins1/wtc-south-tower-roof.jpg

Ahh but you cant peer over the edge and look basically straight down.

Ahh but you cant peer over the edge and look basically straight down.

True, but I'm sure most people did that from the indoor observation deck. I did lots of that on my first day of work in my office. Hell, working at the WTC helped me overcome my fear of heights! :)

It's hard to know what was the biggest icon (WTC x Empire State), I think the Empire State was more representative historical and culturally speaking.

But in terms of economic power, the WTC looked more impressive.

The ESB historically had more visitors, but the WTC also had plenty of visitors.

Especially considering it was the only place in town where you could get a rooftop view in all directions without a suicide fence in the way.

From: http://cryptome.org/wtc-south-tower-roof.jpg

http://i807.photobucket.com/albums/yy354/mrjenkins1/wtc-south-tower-roof.jpg

are there/can i find more pics like that one?

FROM: NYBOY75

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PY82EgH5Xwo

FROM: NYBOY75

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHlpPyyyqz0

NJ and Ct are visible, but so are parts of Pennsylvania.

Don't know if it's an urban legend, but I believe someone claimed (with a 'scope or high-power binocs) that was possible to see the twins from a high point in NE Maryland.

...just curious. What is the farthest point NYC can be seen from? And don't say..."it can be seen from the space station":lol:

Supposedly, Baltimore can be seen from the Washington Monument in DC, about 40 miles, with buildings only a third of the hieght. I'm thinking from land for NYC, not from out in the ocean somewhere.

I remember as a boy on a clear day we could see the WTC as well as ESB and Chrysler from our boat on Great South Bay - Massapequa: about 40 miles east of Manhattan.

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historygradguy (jobhunting)

The absolut king of Lower Manhattan...



The ESB historically had more visitors, but the WTC also had plenty of visitors.

Especially considering it was the only place in town where you could get a rooftop view in all directions without a suicide fence in the way.

From: http://cryptome.org/wtc-south-tower-roof.jpg

http://i807.photobucket.com/albums/yy354/mrjenkins1/wtc-south-tower-roof.jpg

wow! I didn't know the WTC had that ringed observation catwalk. Was it open regularly or only seasonally or on special events?
They should do a similar observation deck above that ring in the base of the spire of 1WTC. It could have a first floor enclosed with the second floor at the open air.

wow! I didn't know the WTC had that ringed observation catwalk. Was it open regularly or only seasonally or on special events?
They should do a similar observation deck above that ring in the base of the spire of 1WTC. It could have a first floor enclosed with the second floor at the open air.

It was open regularly, except for inclement weather (especially July 2000 when a storm rolled through the city and there were lightning bolts striking the antenna atop the North Tower). It was a pretty popular spot for weddings, and I agree, 1WTC should have an outdoor observation deck, but I don't see that happening. Maybe atop Tower 2 or 3, I could see that.

It's hard to know what was the biggest icon (WTC x Empire State), I think the Empire State was more representative historical and culturally speaking.

But in terms of economic power, the WTC looked more impressive.

Coming from someone who spent his formative years in NYC the Empire State Building was by far the bigger icon and far more familiar to me as a child.

^^ I was going to say the same thing.

I never was in NYC, but since I was a child I knew about it, after all, it's the capital of the world. Whenever I heared NYC the first thing that came to my mind were the Twins. For me the Twins were definitely more iconic than the ESB :cheers:

Btw, I have new pics :cheer:

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7173/6527801369_3ba26c964b_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/joelrnyc/6527801369/)
E.Bway - Civic Center (http://www.flickr.com/photos/joelrnyc/6527801369/) by Joel Raskin (http://www.flickr.com/people/joelrnyc/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7029/6528027633_2037d1cca7_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ryanbudhu/6528027633/)
One World Trade Center in Holiday Lights: Progress shot for December 2011 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ryanbudhu/6528027633/) by RBudhu (http://www.flickr.com/people/ryanbudhu/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7141/6530890405_285ed68a62_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/pablo57/6530890405/)
1 WTC (Our Christmas Tree) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/pablo57/6530890405/) by Pablo 57 (http://www.flickr.com/people/pablo57/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7013/6531353681_a92eea9c06_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/pablo57/6531353681/)
1 WTC and 7 WTC (http://www.flickr.com/photos/pablo57/6531353681/) by Pablo 57 (http://www.flickr.com/people/pablo57/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7149/6535693233_f65c99158e_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/leatherndevil/6535693233/)
Freedom Tower (http://www.flickr.com/photos/leatherndevil/6535693233/) by leatherndevil (http://www.flickr.com/people/leatherndevil/), on Flickr

And the PA cam at the end :cheer:

http://oxblue.com/archive/487d07189e5fd2b7edce94fc0bcf4b68/800x600.jpg

Now that is some Christmas tree!

I love These buildings... New York excels

no other skyline is more beautiful than new york's <3

less than 15 floors to go until topping out! But one question, why cant they just have an observation deck on the 105th floor and put the telecommunicational stuff below that? They can put a viewing area on the roof like the south tower. by the way get some more update photos rolling in from different angles.

Here's some photos i took yesterday


http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/8646/nydec20110308203509.jpg

http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/9818/nydec20110378218518.jpg

http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/6045/nydec20110448247112.jpg

http://img849.imageshack.us/img849/9688/nydec20110288188609.jpg

tallest on the horizon good progress :cheers:

Not any time soon because the bedrock for mounting a foundation is too far below the surface from about 30th down to Canal to be a smarter economical move than building in midtown or lower manhattan.
Is this an urban legend? Certainly the bedrock is farther down. But bedrock isn't needed to build skyscrapers. Modern piling can rely entirely on friction from the surrounding soil rather than sitting on top of a solid subterranean layer.

Deeper foundations do cost more but that cost wouldn't be prohibitive, especially when compared to all the other costs associated with building in manhattan.

My bet is that zoning restrictions are the reason. City planners try to factor in infrastructure and transportation capacities along with the obvious NIMBY issues.

less than 15 floors to go until topping out! But one question, why cant they just have an observation deck on the 105th floor and put the telecommunicational stuff below that? They can put a viewing area on the roof like the south tower. by the way get some more update photos rolling in from different angles.

The reason why SOM rejected an observatory platform at the parapet was not because of communication equipment risk, but rather the fact that this tower is self contained, 4 water cooling towers will be located at the roof; also, the window washing crane and its track will take hell alot of space.

Progress looks very good, I do agree. Still I wish the design was for a Tower a little Taller, about 2,000 feet.
:cheers:

Can't wait for completion!

^^^ nice pict guys, keep update

Is this an urban legend? Certainly the bedrock is farther down. But bedrock isn't needed to build skyscrapers. Modern piling can rely entirely on friction from the surrounding soil rather than sitting on top of a solid subterranean layer.

Deeper foundations do cost more but that cost wouldn't be prohibitive, especially when compared to all the other costs associated with building in manhattan.

My bet is that zoning restrictions are the reason. City planners try to factor in infrastructure and transportation capacities along with the obvious NIMBY issues.

It was historically the reason, hence the proliferation of skyscrapers in midtown and downtown - but better building technology has now surpassed this problem. This has allowed some tall buildings to be built within these districts already - such as the Trump Soho.

I have new pics :cheer:

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7156/6541294371_fc34aae462_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/nekolin1130/6541294371/)
IMG_0009 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/nekolin1130/6541294371/) by AM509: WKSC (http://www.flickr.com/people/nekolin1130/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7145/6541326347_5f16026681_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/nekolin1130/6541326347/)
IMG_0036 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/nekolin1130/6541326347/) by AM509: WKSC (http://www.flickr.com/people/nekolin1130/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7004/6541619609_1ea9e71eaf_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/howiegordon/6541619609/)
Freedom Tower (http://www.flickr.com/photos/howiegordon/6541619609/) by Howie Gordon (http://www.flickr.com/people/howiegordon/), on Flickr

Thx, Kanto!

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7143/6542907827_436195e9ae_b.jpg

That last one is probably the most beautiful pic I've been from the Top of the Rock.

amazing project!

I think One WTC is now higher than the roof of the John Hancock center.:cheers:

Excellent updates!!!

Will WTC1 top out by March? I plan to go to NYC in March and want to know what to expect when I go there to check it out.

Presumably it'll be very close to TO. IIRC, it's been said that it'll top out in April.

I think One WTC is now higher than the roof of the John Hancock center.:cheers:

Yup, it is 4 meters taller (347m=1WTC,343m=JHC) :cheers:

I have new pics :cheer:

Thank you!!!:cheers1:

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7026/6546546275_d18c1e1bb7_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/38427195@N05/6546546275/)
World Trade Center, December 2011 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/38427195@N05/6546546275/) by ricardoblanco5 (http://www.flickr.com/people/38427195@N05/), on Flickr

Awesome pic!! :) NYC is getting new face!!

I have two questions.

Will it count as "topped out" without the antenna/spire/mast?

And are they putting on the base fins now?

I have two questions.

Will it count as "topped out" without the antenna/spire/mast?

And are they putting on the base fins now?

1. Yeah topped out is roof
2. I don't think that's happening until late next year or early 2013? Not sure, hopefully it ends up being sooner

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7143/6542907827_436195e9ae_b.jpg

This is a EPIC picture!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:bow::bow::bow::bow::bow::bow::cheers::cheers:

Hi all.

1. Yeah topped out is roof
2. I don't think that's happening until late next year or early 2013? Not sure, hopefully it ends up being sooner

Hi Pat.

Topped out is when it has reached its full height both structurally and architecturally. Since this project has a spire it won't be topped until that is erected.

:cheers:
Ray.

Here are my WTC pictures from Yesterday

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7035/6547245459_2df4b0195f_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/42178139@N06/6547245459/)
DSC09533 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/42178139@N06/6547245459/) by Nexis4Jersey09 (http://www.flickr.com/people/42178139@N06/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7159/6547242175_0b88484469_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/42178139@N06/6547242175/)
DSC09513 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/42178139@N06/6547242175/) by Nexis4Jersey09 (http://www.flickr.com/people/42178139@N06/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7155/6547249701_c8c36cc54f_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/42178139@N06/6547249701/)
DSC09564 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/42178139@N06/6547249701/) by Nexis4Jersey09 (http://www.flickr.com/people/42178139@N06/), on Flickr

Taken by me:

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7174/6552752033_fe2d8c69f1_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/8379824@N07/6552752033/)
In the Holiday Spirit (http://www.flickr.com/photos/8379824@N07/6552752033/) by beanhead4529 (http://www.flickr.com/people/8379824@N07/), on Flickr


http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7162/6552755163_345d9fd016_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/8379824@N07/6552755163/)
Building Towards the Future (http://www.flickr.com/photos/8379824@N07/6552755163/) by beanhead4529 (http://www.flickr.com/people/8379824@N07/), on Flickr

http://www.lowermanhattan.info/construction/project_updates/freedom_tower_26204.aspx

*The following information was last updated on December 22, 2011

Facade installation is now above floor 63
Tower steel is now above floor 91. It is expected to top out by appx. April of 2012.
Installation of the 400-foot-tall antenna in spring 2012. :cheers:
Concrete is now being installed above floor 84

The progress seems to be running on schedule, cant wait for the top out and antenna installation.

Fantastic shots beanhead4529, thanks a lot for sharing! The illumination seems pretty unique to me, awesome. :okay:

:banana:looks great

This city is incredible!!!!!!!!

Work resumes up top.
http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/9344/1wtc122211.jpg

1WTC is a very beautiful project especially it being in New York, its going to bring this city to Life! But dont you think it would stand out in a weird way in front of all the concrete building..?

Almost time for new steel?

PANYNJ on Twitter (http://twitter.com/wtcprogress)
http://p.twimg.com/AhNkK1kCQAAYkFw.jpg

this is going to be such a great view

http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/4214/37288786.png

http://www.earthcam.com/usa/newyork/statueofliberty/?cam=liberty_hd

Work resumes up top.

Great timing with that trailer in the air.

Hi all.



Hi Pat.

Topped out is when it has reached its full height both structurally and architecturally. Since this project has a spire it won't be topped until that is erected.

:cheers:
Ray.

http://www.lowermanhattan.info/construction/project_updates/freedom_tower_26204.aspx

*The following information was last updated on December 22, 2011

Facade installation is now above floor 63
Tower steel is now above floor 91. It is expected to top out by appx. April of 2012.
Installation of the 400-foot-tall antenna in spring 2012. :cheers:
Concrete is now being installed above floor 84

Ray, according to this (and any update I've ever seen about 1 WTC), topping out has always referred to the completion of the building to its roof height.

One WTC from Newark (webcam)

http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/8594/newarknyc122211.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/853/newarknyc122211.jpg/)

Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us)

http://hazecam.net/camsite.aspx?site=newark

wow what progress since last year but 1 wtc should have been done buy now . :ohno:

wow what progress since last year but 1 wtc should have been done buy now . :ohno:

It "should have" been done years ago lol, all the buildings

One WTC from Newark (webcam)

http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/8594/newarknyc122211.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/853/newarknyc122211.jpg/)

Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us)

http://hazecam.net/camsite.aspx?site=newark

WOW, UFO spotting!

WOW, UFO spotting!

it's probably a plane flying into Newark Airport

^^
You're so wrong! This must be an UFO!!!
:smug:

http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/3343/ft12191134.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/850/ft12191134.jpg/)

Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us)

Ray, according to this (and any update I've ever seen about 1 WTC), topping out has always referred to the completion of the building to its roof height.

It's just semantics, though reaching the roof shouldn't be counted as topping out, since the mast is part of the building's integrity.

I've got some pics I stumbled upon on flickr :cheer:

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7151/6550467085_7c031c1fb5_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/comtrag/6550467085/)
NYC 028 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/comtrag/6550467085/) by comtrag (http://www.flickr.com/people/comtrag/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7153/6550682555_44bf0fb3f5_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/comtrag/6550682555/)
NYC 128 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/comtrag/6550682555/) by comtrag (http://www.flickr.com/people/comtrag/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7153/6550682695_acafae559c_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/comtrag/6550682695/)
NYC 125 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/comtrag/6550682695/) by comtrag (http://www.flickr.com/people/comtrag/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7015/6550877143_b0882c437c_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/terryballard/6550877143/)
America's tallest Christmas ornament (http://www.flickr.com/photos/terryballard/6550877143/) by terryballard (http://www.flickr.com/people/terryballard/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7007/6551826713_6a249dcbba_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/comtrag/6551826713/)
NYC 267 Southwest (http://www.flickr.com/photos/comtrag/6551826713/) by comtrag (http://www.flickr.com/people/comtrag/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7009/6552336611_8e0610ff3d_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/gojistomp/6552336611/)
Bad Timing (http://www.flickr.com/photos/gojistomp/6552336611/) by GringoPaisa (http://www.flickr.com/people/gojistomp/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7030/6553731707_34b6060ab1_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tarashnat/6553731707/)
2011-12-22 at 06-38-57 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tarashnat/6553731707/) by tarashnat (http://www.flickr.com/people/tarashnat/), on Flickr

And the PA cam at the end :cheer:

http://oxblue.com/archive/487d07189e5fd2b7edce94fc0bcf4b68/800x600.jpg

great lightening. will it remain like that or is this only during the construction phase?

^^ The current lightening is construction lightening and the colors are there only for Xmas, so no, once completed the tower will have different lightening :cheers:

that is sad. one of the best lightening i have ever seen and then its only for chistmas. this colourful lightening could be a landmark for new york

looking good

Cross fingers for a last Christmas lighting next year!

Hi all.

Ray, according to this (and any update I've ever seen about 1 WTC), topping out has always referred to the completion of the building to its roof height.

Hi Pat.

I am just referring to the CTBUH definition of topped out.
They use the same criteria for all tall structures.
Since this project has a spire and not an antennae, official top out is when the spire is up.

Quote from the council's site :

"A building is considered to be "Topped Out" when it is under construction, and has reached its full height both structurally and architecturally (e.g., including its spires, parapets, etc)."

:cheers:
Ray.

(slightly offtopic, sorry..)

December 23, 1970: The North Tower is topped out at 1,368 feet, making it the tallest building in the world.

http://i40.tinypic.com/2l92m1j.jpg

Zen used to believe they were going to reach the roof by today. Damn, I'm getting emotional... http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-basic/tears.gif Thanks for posting it.

When is expected to be topped out? It's progressing nicely though.

Great timing with that trailer in the air.

Seeing that reminds me....where is the Subway now? Haven't seen anything about it for over a year.

I hate the fact that in one of Kanto's pics you can see a plane near the new WTC!!! X_X

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-NZbmAYXoDoI/TvJrAfKCvmI/AAAAAAAAPlI/g_5fOTVBECE/s1600/OneWorldTrade.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-8sGfV_Ow8oc/TubepXt6omI/AAAAAAAAMyM/Y8eezA3S7eY/s1600/_MG_0449.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-0PoboZDZ908/TuGcxJKTr5I/AAAAAAAAMwA/X0KW0lix_Cg/s1600/_MG_0898.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-g1Oq60PtWns/Tthhn9WQB3I/AAAAAAAAMrM/Pno1IjV_Cyw/s1600/_MG_0300.jpg

^^ these pics are astonishing! thanks a lot for posting them :okay:

Awesome pics, Olidobbs!
Thank you for sharing :cheers1:

Nice pics, can you give us the exact source please?

no problem!

Seeing that reminds me....where is the Subway now? Haven't seen anything about it for over a year.

The 1 train? It's still there - it's just more enclosed by the construction of 2 and 3 WTC. Also, Cortlandt Street station is being rebuilt and is expected to open in about two years and be connected to the transit hub.

The 1 train? It's still there - it's just more enclosed by the construction of 2 and 3 WTC. Also, Cortlandt Street station is being rebuilt and is expected to open in about two years and be connected to the transit hub.

No I think he meant the Subway sandwich shop that they had at 1 WTC for the construction workers.

Hey I have new pics :cheer:

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7019/6556368135_2b241195f2_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kingdomany/6556368135/)
Freedom Tower, the new World trade center (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kingdomany/6556368135/) by kingdomany (http://www.flickr.com/people/kingdomany/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7145/6556402379_bfe2d09e37_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kingdomany/6556402379/)
Freedom Tower, the new World trade center (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kingdomany/6556402379/) by kingdomany (http://www.flickr.com/people/kingdomany/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7019/6556446467_ed1329c941_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/30988651@N08/6556446467/)
view of Freedom Tower under construction from Hope's office (http://www.flickr.com/photos/30988651@N08/6556446467/) by Blackout Matt (http://www.flickr.com/people/30988651@N08/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7007/6556451787_87f57b3176_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/30988651@N08/6556451787/)
Freedom Tower under construction (http://www.flickr.com/photos/30988651@N08/6556451787/) by Blackout Matt (http://www.flickr.com/people/30988651@N08/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7145/6558154131_955f36ecc0_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/50903636@N06/6558154131/)
NYC Skyline, freedom tower on right (http://www.flickr.com/photos/50903636@N06/6558154131/) by Kevinnivekpictures (http://www.flickr.com/people/50903636@N06/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7012/6560613849_9f9e466413_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/vanessa52/6560613849/)
350/365 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/vanessa52/6560613849/) by Vanessa52 (http://www.flickr.com/people/vanessa52/), on Flickr

And the PA cam at the end :cheer:

http://oxblue.com/archive/487d07189e5fd2b7edce94fc0bcf4b68/800x600.jpg

FROM: NYMAN201

http://www.flickr.com/photos/51949497@N08/6561141415/in/photostream

http://www.flickr.com/photos/51949497@N08/6561141137/in/photostream

No I think he meant the Subway sandwich shop that they had at 1 WTC for the construction workers.

That was run by subway? Thought it was just catered by a normal deli.

Great shots! I still asks when this will be topped out?

I hate the fact that in one of Kanto's pics you can see a plane near the new WTC!!! X_X

Well you will see many pics like that considering many a plane flies over manhattan.

Great shots! I still asks when this will be topped out?

I think this gets answered on literally every page of this thread, how about being just a little self-sufficient and looking back a few pages? I think we keep saying late March to early April.

^How about being more accurate?
If things go as planned, Tishman will reach the rooftop parapet structure by April 2012. The mast is part of the building's integritiy, so topping-out should occur by late October 2012.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-g1Oq60PtWns/Tthhn9WQB3I/AAAAAAAAMrM/Pno1IjV_Cyw/s1600/_MG_0300.jpg

These photos are amazing. It looks like a drawing, so perfect!! Thanks for share!
We hope to see new photos soon.
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Merry Christmas my friends. I hope you have a great party with your family. :cheers:

A big hug to all fanatics of New York buildings. :lol:

Marble cladding at the lobby has just begun!

Marble cladding at the lobby has just begun!

How do you know this? Source? Link?

No I think he meant the Subway sandwich shop that they had at 1 WTC for the construction workers.

..that's what I meant!:lol: Is it still in there somewhere? That container they were lifting a couple pages back looked too small to be the Subway.

Merry Christmas! :)

Marble cladding at the lobby has just begun!
Any photos from the lobby with the cladding?

These photos are amazing. It looks like a drawing, so perfect!! Thanks for share!
We hope to see new photos soon.
________________________

Merry Christmas my friends. I hope you have a great party with your family. :cheers:

A big hug to all fanatics of New York buildings. :lol:

Unfortunately I didn't take these photos I found them on a blog! I've never been to New York, I'm from England!

FROM: NYBOY75

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCbwfIWVzVE

Sorry about the wind noise.

Merry Christmas everyone! By this time next year we should be talking about a topped-out nearly complete building!:cheers::cheers::cheers:

How do you know this? Source? Link?

Sorry guys, but this time your source is me. I've been talking with people involved in the project. Marble cladding is being installed primarly on B1 and B2 levels.

that is sad. one of the best lightening i have ever seen and then its only for chistmas. this colourful lightening could be a landmark for new york

oh, but to get that effect, they lightened the empty floors with color lights. Now imagine you working at night until a dimmed dark blue light :/

oh, but to get that effect, they lightened the empty floors with color lights. Now imagine you working at night until a dimmed dark blue light :/

Right, I don't think they're going to do these colored lights when people actually work in the building.

Any of you folks who is an expert on glass and physics, could you explain this rare phenomenon captured by the curtain wall? On some parts you can clearly see the reflection is higher than transparency, but in others (where the sun hits directly) transparency is quite notorius.

http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/8149/reflectiony.jpg

The explanation is high reflection of the concrete caused by the Sun. When the concrete is in the shadow there is nothing to reflect.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-NZbmAYXoDoI/TvJrAfKCvmI/AAAAAAAAPlI/g_5fOTVBECE/s1600/OneWorldTrade.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-8sGfV_Ow8oc/TubepXt6omI/AAAAAAAAMyM/Y8eezA3S7eY/s1600/_MG_0449.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-0PoboZDZ908/TuGcxJKTr5I/AAAAAAAAMwA/X0KW0lix_Cg/s1600/_MG_0898.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-g1Oq60PtWns/Tthhn9WQB3I/AAAAAAAAMrM/Pno1IjV_Cyw/s1600/_MG_0300.jpg

:omg: these pictures are breathtaking ! Thank you so much for sharing them with us!!!!

FROM: NYBOY75

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXZz6cm3xBs

Hey folks merry Xmas and I have new pics :cheer:

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7148/6561401821_9979b410b8_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/44476198@N05/6561401821/)
12.23.11-1 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/44476198@N05/6561401821/) by C.SooHoo (http://www.flickr.com/people/44476198@N05/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7020/6561992329_be4091ec0c_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/shehan365/6561992329/)
day 345/365 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/shehan365/6561992329/) by shehan365 (http://www.flickr.com/people/shehan365/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7016/6562598597_ce7ecc471f_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bleueyedbeauty/6562598597/)
IMG_3771.JPG (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bleueyedbeauty/6562598597/) by bleueyed_beauty (http://www.flickr.com/people/bleueyedbeauty/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7013/6562597761_f744b3fb66_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bleueyedbeauty/6562597761/)
IMG_3779.JPG (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bleueyedbeauty/6562597761/) by bleueyed_beauty (http://www.flickr.com/people/bleueyedbeauty/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7025/6564156495_49ab95463c_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/scalino/6564156495/)
NYC-51 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/scalino/6564156495/) by Scalino / On The Road Again (http://www.flickr.com/people/scalino/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7143/6564923063_f7d3736210_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kathycat102/6564923063/)
911 Memorial -Joe05 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kathycat102/6564923063/) by KathyCat102 (http://www.flickr.com/people/kathycat102/), on Flickr

And the PA cam at the end :cheer:

http://oxblue.com/archive/487d07189e5fd2b7edce94fc0bcf4b68/800x600.jpg

A good idea for the PA would to open One WTC on April 4, 2013 (40 years to the day after the opening of the original World Trade Center)

^^ The sooner they open it the better, I just wanna see tower 1 finished asap :cheers:

Excellent and stunning photos !!! 1WTC must be around 350 meters tall...

Merry Christmas!!!! Hopefully the workers are off today.

Hey folks merry Xmas and I have new pics :cheer:
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7020/6561992329_be4091ec0c_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/shehan365/6561992329/)
day 345/365 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/shehan365/6561992329/) by shehan365 (http://www.flickr.com/people/shehan365/), on Flickr


10/10. :cheers:

Excellent and stunning photos !!! 1WTC must be around 350 meters tall...

347 meters to be exact :cheers: