But without the ring or the spire, 1WTC becomes nothing more than just another tall building. All the significance and importance behind it are lost. It doesnt even stand out in front of 2WTC (whenever that gets built)


I'm pretty sure 1WTC will have a spire, the issue now is what KIND of spire. They need to leave the design ALONE and build the nice thick spire, it frames the building much more, making it be a focal point for the whole city. Without the spire and parapet, 1wtc will look like a boring dull generic office building in anytown, USA. Any spire is better than no spire, and the parapet serves to help frame the spire on top and give the building balance and added visual height. But Durst needs to butt out and leave the design alone! I really hope SOM will convince them otherwise!

Would you stop spreading misinformation? No one said the spire is canceled..I'm wondering when will this stop already..If ever will..

pic how 1WTC would look like without the ring and the spire

Please note that I used the word would, not will :cheers:

As to my comment before the quoted one when I said the fat spire was cancelled I didn't mean that 1WTC's spire as a whole got cancelled, I only meant that the fat design of the spire was cancelled, which according to the article it was :cheers:

the tower looks much better without the spire if only they could make it a bit taller.

Wrong! I never said I want be an architect. I don't want to be an architect. I want to be a structural engineer. That's a very big difference :ohno:

Btw, I just made a quick pic how 1WTC would look like without the ring and the spire and I can tell ya, that it looks a thousand times better than with what you'd call "visionary architecture elements" (I'd call the ring and the spire uglifying elements) :cheers:

http://i39.************/23m6hyx.jpg

ESB looks far too small in that photo :O

^^ It looks small because it's not in Downtown but in Midtown.

@Charles You mean the roof? The roof is where the slanted sides are coming together. How could they make the roof higher, the tower is nearly topped out.

^^ It looks small because it's not in Downtown but in Midtown.

@Charles You mean the roof? The roof is where the slanted sides are coming together. How could they make the roof higher, the tower is nearly topped out.

I know that but i didn't think it would look that small.

I think Kanto is right, it looks much much classier without the "skylon"-esque spire and the napkin-ring type circle of communications equipment surrounding it. Personally I've always thought they looked a bit tacky. The geometries of these elements simply bear no relation to the building they sit on, looking like add-ons rather than integral parts of the design.

I do agree that it would be shameful to lose the symbolism of the height the spire added. I can only hope that they decide to redesign the spire into something more elegant and in keeping with the rest of the building which is turning out beautifully. Putting a bare, Conde-Nast type structure on top CANNOT be an option.

ESB looks far too small in that photo :O


I think that ESB looks pretty big in that picture. I think its very wide looking.

The pic above with WTC1 without its spire is just awful. WTC1 needs its spire. It will look plain and thristy for attention. Spires is what completes a buildings character. Its like us, without a head we will be plain looking, blind, and no character to speak in volumes. That spire gives 1WTC all of the above, including a mouth piece and eyes looking for away to the horizon. The ESB originally was only suppose to be built to the 86th observation deck with no steel spire, but I think the governor at the time said it needed to built higher to represent this city, state, country and the world. Now imagine if it didnt had its spire. It would just look like another tall for nothing building. Buildings that shouldn't need a spire is the NYT and BOA buildings. They already have a character, their spires just look like a over dress hat.

People need to actually read the WSJ. But for those who didn't for whatever reason.

THE SPIRE IS NOT CANCELLED.

What is being redesigned is the outer, essentially casing of what is an entirely mechanical antenna that would look like the original WTCs spire. Completely mechanical.

What it looks like is happening is the spiraling enclosure that hides the hideous mechanical antenna is being redesigned because the material the one weve seen, would be made of a material that would need to be maintained, which is a tough to do.

I have an incredibly hard time believing that SOM is not going to fight this. I would imagine that SOM will design a new enclosure for the antenna that works with the tower instead of having a metal pole plopped on top. Read the article before. Otie posted some great renders a couple pages back which show what is happening.

What the wall street article is saying is that a interior antenna will be installed and the outer cone casing will be thinner and less conical then the original design and from what,i am hearing through the grape vine is that the Radome will be removed.

People need to actually read the WSJ. But for those who didn't for whatever reason.

THE SPIRE IS NOT CANCELLED.

What is being redesigned is the outer, essentially casing of what is an entirely mechanical antenna that would look like the original WTCs spire. Completely mechanical.

What it looks like is happening is the spiraling enclosure that hides the hideous mechanical antenna is being redesigned because the material the one weve seen, would be made of a material that would need to be maintained, which is a tough to do.

I have an incredibly hard time believing that SOM is not going to fight this. I would imagine that SOM will design a new enclosure for the antenna that works with the tower instead of having a metal pole plopped on top. Read the article before. Otie posted some great renders a couple pages back which show what is happening.

So I got it right, the antenna inside the spire will still be there, only the outer (fat) spire layer got cancelled and will be either replaced by a different spire layer (hopefuly not fat) or maybe there'll be no spire layer at all, just a thin antenna. Hopefully it will be so thin that it'll be nearly unnoticable like which the North Tower had shortly after it was built :cheers:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-_Mk5W9Z2Bt0/Tm2VJ8rfrQI/AAAAAAAAAeo/NXJcVU_LYqg/s320/WTC.jpg

I would be utterly dumbfounded if SOM made no effort to redesign the spire so that it still works with the rest of the structure, architecturally speaking.

People who don't like the spire say it would look better without it and without the communications ring. But that's not how it works. If they remove the architectural part of the spire, you will still have that horribly ugly antenna. @Kanto: You said you like the North Tower's antenna. Me too. But if they remove the architectural part of the spire it will not look like the North Tower's antenna, it will look like the ugly Conde Nast antenna.

Really hope they reconsider, this complex is worth so much more than to sacrifice everything good about it to the trash heap.

Wrong! I never said I want be an architect. I don't want to be an architect. I want to be a structural engineer. That's a very big difference :ohno:

Btw, I just made a quick pic how 1WTC would look like without the ring and the spire and I can tell ya, that it looks a thousand times better than with what you'd call "visionary architecture elements" (I'd call the ring and the spire uglifying elements) :cheers:

http://i39.************/23m6hyx.jpg

this now looks like northeast asia trade center in incheon :cheers:

^ Completely true.

i am pretty hopeful that 1wtc antenna will have a casing over it it will just be a little thinner and probably be made of a cheaper material.

Wow, this is the best news of this month. The ugly fat spire has been cancelled. This will make 1WTC a lot more beautiful :banana2:
Oh come on, you again giving lessons about architecture and beauty :bash:

People its only a proposal wait and see on what comes up.

i just don't get it, i mean was the spire really THAT expensive? :ohno:

^Not as expensive as the Durst people say, contract made between Port Authority and IBK /DCM was valuated in $17,199,000USD.

Oh come on, you again giving lessons about architecture and beauty :bash:

Don't feed him, please.

So I got it right, the antenna inside the spire will still be there, only the outer (fat) spire layer got cancelled and will be either replaced by a different spire layer (hopefuly not fat) or maybe there'll be no spire layer at all, just a thin antenna. Hopefully it will be so thin that it'll be nearly unnoticable like which the North Tower had shortly after it was built

No you did not get it right! He said that they will be designing the casing with a new material, that means the actual look of the antenna may not change at all but just the material.

Maybe you should reading over stuff twice? Would help you a lot I think!

The old spire design really complimented the tower and the communication ring, hopefully any new design will be similar.

They should build one that is like super tall. Since terrorism is not that rampant now.

I hope they can integrate the new broadcast antenna into the same design so it looks the same as in the renders. It looks terrible without any spire :(

They are not changing the antenna!!!

What they are changing is the material and "maybe" the casing around the antenna....

No where has any article said that they are getting rid of the antenna/spire, stop worrying it's not going to happen!

I did not expect for this, now that the project is in the final stages of construction.
Modify the spire is to make it lose its characteristics, something that can not happen, is something that makes part of the building.

It's a shame, was all right. I hope that the spire is not changed much because it's a lack of respect for those who lost their families, and for them this building is a memorial, a new beginning.

Well they should not change anything and I know no article has said anything but I almost died when I saw that REVOLTING edited photo kanto posted and I went into panic mode!! I guess I will calm down...

^^ Hahaha... It's true. When I looked at that picture, I thought I was a nightmare. :lol:

It's because he want's to be in the center of attention and he will always go against everyone, turn small news into a big one, spread misinformation and then act innocent..

People please read articles and pay attention on other things other than his attention grabbing pictures, diagrams and other stuff..

Gosh, this thread is sometimes like a television drama, with Kanto as the protagonist.

Gosh, this thread is sometimes like a television drama, with Kanto as the protagonist.


Ha you think this thread is bad. You should pay a visit to the PL Thread on the sports field. We are all at war with each other.

Gosh, this thread is sometimes like a television drama, with Kanto as the protagonist.

LOL. :lol:

Meanwhile...

http://www.panynj.gov/press-room/press-item.cfm?headLine_id=1544

STATE-OF-THE-ART BROADCAST CENTER POISED TO RETURN TO WORLD TRADE CENTER

Mar 06, 2012

One World Trade Center, soon to stand as the Western Hemisphere’s tallest building, is planning to add broadcasting to its summit. As part of an arrangement now being finalized with The Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, The Durst Organization would oversee construction and operation of a new, state-of-the-art broadcast facility atop the tower. The installation would offer television and FM radio broadcast capabilities.

With a 408-foot spire reaching an ultimate height of 1,776 square feet, One World Trade Center’s broadcast center is expected to attract a number of prestigious broadcast partners, while promising to generate significant revenue for the project in return for a relatively modest capital investment.

Employing full redundant power, the One World Trade Center broadcast center would be marketed together with a broadcast tower atop 4 Times Square, also operated by The Durst Organization. The two towers would together serve as a primary and back-up facility, creating an economy of scale for broadcast tenants.

Upon completion, the broadcast center is projected to generate more than $10 million annually. The facility would require approximately $7.4 million in up-front capital costs. All costs related to the broadcast facility would be borne entirely by The Durst Organization. Prior to September 11, 2001, the World Trade Center’s North Tower featured a 360-foot broadcast center at its top.
With construction now having risen to the 92nd floor, One World Trade Center is the tallest building in downtown Manhattan. Upon completion, One World Trade Center will stand 104 stories high and offer 71 rentable floors totaling three million square feet of leasable, Class-A office space.

The PA and Durst are dead serious about this. Let's all pray SOM does something about this, at least the redesign should look good too.

Ha you think this thread is bad. You should pay a visit to the PL Thread on the sports field. We are all at war with each other.

He didn't say it was bad, only somtimes when people say stupid things...
And you are one of them right now... :p

Yeah, I'm not feeling as pessimistic about this as I was yesterday. They'll do something to make it look right. They could even use this opportunity to make the spire work better with the rest of the tower.

Yeah, I'm not feeling as pessimistic about this as I was yesterday. They'll do something to make it look right. They could even use this opportunity to make the spire work better with the rest of the tower.

I'm doubtful. They said there going to make it thinner and more functional looking. To me, that doesn't sound good. I liked the spire as is. It sounds more antennae-like than spire. I don't want to see a spire like atop the NYTT or 4TS. Which I'm afraid it will be.

^^ SOM won't let that happen, at least that's what I hope for. Maybe they can cover the antenna with a new material.

He didn't say it was bad, only somtimes when people say stupid things...
And you are one of them right now... :p


Back at you. You no what I ment so stop acting stupid and get over yourself.

I'm doubtful. They said there going to make it thinner and more functional looking. To me, that doesn't sound good. I liked the spire as is. It sounds more antennae-like than spire. I don't want to see a spire like atop the NYTT or 4TS. Which I'm afraid it will be.


Me too. I liked the way the WTC1 looked with the spire.

I'm really confused about this. I thought a broadcasting antenna was going to be encased within the spire anyway? If not for broadcasting, then what was the purpose of that antenna? Or was it originally going to be a completely non-functional spire for aesthetic purposes only?

Geez I'm confused. I just hope they don't make it look like shit.

Back at you. You no what I ment so stop acting stupid and get over yourself.

jep, I know what you mean. you mean that you talk bullshit, i get you!! :nuts:
end of chat...

jep, I know what you mean. you mean that you talk bullshit, i get you!! :nuts:
end of chat...


The only one talking bullshit here is you. You knew what I ment but you just wanted to be a dick which you are and start on me. What I originally said was not even to you so mind your own business. End of chat.

^^ SOM won't let that happen, at least that's what I hope for. Maybe they can cover the antenna with a new material.

I think they will cover it with a new material like you said.

If you remember originally it was going to have an antenna with no substance to it, meaning air and weather could pass through the antenna because there was no casing or cover to the actual antenna, it was like BofA and 4 TS. But that idea got canned and they redesigned to what just got canned, because they were afraid of ice and snow getting stuck up there and falling down, potentially onto the sidewalk or into the park.

So I would have to imagine that on this redesign the antenna gets a cover or casing so we won't have a hideous 4 TS antenna on top of 1 WTC.

this now looks like northeast asia trade center in incheon :cheers:



Actually, it would look pretty good without that spire. Without a spire, they out to reconsider the idea of the rooftop observation deck. But then that would make too much sense. I wonder what their excuses would be.

Actually, it would look pretty good without that spire. Without a spire, they out to reconsider the idea of the rooftop observation deck. But then that would make too much sense. I wonder what their excuses would be.

It might look good without the spire IF they built it taller, otherwise, it would look naked. I am hopeful that Durst will find some middle ground and not totally change SOM's design of the spire...We are so close to topping out, it would be a shame to make such a dramatic re-design at this late stage....Also, IF they did go with a skinny antenna, you're right, there WOULD be more room on the roof for an outdoor deck, although they probably wouldn't do it.

It might look good without the spire IF they built it taller, otherwise, it would look naked. I am hopeful that Durst will find some middle ground and not totally change SOM's design of the spire...We are so close to topping out, it would be a shame to make such a dramatic re-design at this late stage....Also, IF they did go with a skinny antenna, you're right, there WOULD be more room on the roof for an outdoor deck, although they probably wouldn't do it.

The communication ring would prevent such.

I'm really confused about this. I thought a broadcasting antenna was going to be encased within the spire anyway? If not for broadcasting, then what was the purpose of that antenna? Or was it originally going to be a completely non-functional spire for aesthetic purposes only?

Geez I'm confused. I just hope they don't make it look like shit.

Yes, it was originally to be a broadcast antenna inside of an architectural spire. What they're talking about doing now is removing the architectural part of it and leaving it as just an antenna, which by the way won't count towards official height. Other people have said it and I agree, this isn't just any skyscraper that you can modify and dumb down.

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3435/5805822819_7c25331226_z.jpg
Beautiful.

Beautiful.

Wow, that's a very old image. But definitely worth reposting, hopefully it'll look like that again in a month or two. :)

People all of you should relax and clam down as you can see by going back to the wall street journal article they have retracted their statement about any design changes and that was the only article that i saw that said their would be design changes, and if their is a design change wait and see how the final design comes out for all we know it might be a better design.

http://online.wsj.com/article/AP3cb3c58b524e4152bd1a8184845ce644.html

Hi all.

LOL. :lol:

Meanwhile...

http://www.panynj.gov/press-room/press-item.cfm?headLine_id=1544

STATE-OF-THE-ART BROADCAST CENTER POISED TO RETURN TO WORLD TRADE CENTER
One World Trade Center, soon to stand as the Western Hemisphere’s tallest building, is planning to add broadcasting to its summit. As part of an arrangement now being finalized with The Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, The Durst Organization would oversee construction and operation of a new, state-of-the-art broadcast facility atop the tower. The installation would offer television and FM radio broadcast capabilities.

With a 408-foot spire reaching an ultimate height of 1,776 square feet, One World Trade Center’s broadcast center is expected to attract a number of prestigious broadcast partners, while promising to generate significant revenue for the project in return for a relatively modest capital investment.

Employing full redundant power, the One World Trade Center broadcast center would be marketed together with a broadcast tower atop 4 Times Square, also operated by The Durst Organization. The two towers would together serve as a primary and back-up facility, creating an economy of scale for broadcast tenants.

Upon completion, the broadcast center is projected to generate more than $10 million annually. The facility would require approximately $7.4 million in up-front capital costs. All costs related to the broadcast facility would be borne entirely by The Durst Organization. Prior to September 11, 2001, the World Trade Center’s North Tower featured a 360-foot broadcast center at its top.
With construction now having risen to the 92nd floor, One World Trade Center is the tallest building in downtown Manhattan. Upon completion, One World Trade Center will stand 104 stories high and offer 71 rentable floors totaling three million square feet of leasable, Class-A office space.

Mar 06, 2012

The PA and Durst are dead serious about this. Let's all pray SOM does something about this, at least the redesign should look good too.

Good to know the spire will reach an ultimate height of 1776 square feet ...
Who writes this shit ...

Not sure what all the hubbub is over this news but ...
Perhaps the height to architectural top can be adjusted with this new spire to be 1776 feet measured from the lowest entrance because:
1 - that number seems to be important to some people.
2 - the official CTBUH height will be higher than 1776 (if the spire height remains the same) because they will measure from the finished floor at the threshold of the lowest entrance and not from the average lobby floor height as the plans do.

:cheers:
Ray.

I think they will cover it with a new material like you said.

If you remember originally it was going to have an antenna with no substance to it, meaning air and weather could pass through the antenna because there was no casing or cover to the actual antenna, it was like BofA and 4 TS. But that idea got canned and they redesigned to what just got canned, because they were afraid of ice and snow getting stuck up there and falling down, potentially onto the sidewalk or into the park.

So I would have to imagine that on this redesign the antenna gets a cover or casing so we won't have a hideous 4 TS antenna on top of 1 WTC.

Yeah, the only thing that keeps me worrying is that the new spire will be slimmer, even with a new covering. So no matter how you turn it, we'll probably end up with a much thinner spire. :|

Honestly the spire could stand to be a little slimmer. I guess it all comes down to how dramatic the change in thickness is. Good news about that bit in the WSJ article being retracted, though.

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/03/08/one-world-trade-center-to-miss-top-off-date/

Is anyone surprised?

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/03/08/one-world-trade-center-to-miss-top-off-date/

Is anyone surprised?

Nope.

I'm not surprised, anyone with common sense could see the Tower wouldn't top out in April, they have 160 feet to go come on now.

Going back to the spire issue...if they were to leave the mechanical antenna "uncovered" would it still count as an achitectural feature and thus go towards the overall height or would the building be classified by its roof height?

^^ No because then it would just be an antenna, which isn't counted....

My entire belief in growth of skyscrapers in my city grew(no pun intended) When I was able to see the progress of 1 World trade all the way from Queens. I still wish if a 2nd building had been built it would greatly attract companies like UBS who had intended to move but somehow didn't occur......

Honestly the spire could stand to be a little slimmer. I guess it all comes down to how dramatic the change in thickness is. Good news about that bit in the WSJ article being retracted, though.

I agree. I really don't care if it's slimmer, as long as it doesn't look like crap.

http://www.lowermanhattan.info/news/1_wtc_starts_to_50786.aspx

March 7, 2012
1 WTC Starts to Shine on the Manhattan Skyline

Destined to be the country’s tallest skyscraper, 1 World Trade Center is on track to top out at 104 stories (1,368 feet) this spring. The tower’s steel frame now stands at 92 stories, and already has marked the downtown skyline, with its twin tower cranes visible from miles away. Contractor Tishman Construction is proceeding with the erection of the final dozen stories, which are being built as mechanical-equipment floors, rather than regular office floors, therefore requiring more time to complete. An observation deck will serve as the tower’s highest story.

The glass façade also is rapidly enclosing the structure, with panels reaching the 70th floor this month. The façade glass of 1 WTC uses a new form of high-performance, low-emittance (low-E) glass-coating technology, maximizing sunlight and minimizing heat gain inside the building. The coating also is reflective, creating a shimmering effect on the building’s surface.

This month, crews also will begin installing vertical glass panels around the building’s 186-foot-tall base, also called the podium. More than 4,000 frosted glass fins, each measuring 13 feet 4 inches-by-two feet, are being specially created by the contractor Permasteelisa. The glass fins will attach to the exterior of the podium wall at varying angles to create a series of v-shaped wing effects along the building surface. The wall also will use concealed energy-efficient LEDs to create a soft exterior glow. In addition to the illuminating the podium, the v-shaped glass cladding pattern will provide ventilation for the mechanical systems within, including a 1.2-megawatt, next-generation fuel-cell plant housed above the lobby.

One the steel structure tops out later this year, the Port Authority will spend approximately three months erecting the 400-foot-tall spire that will ultimately bring 1 WTC’s total height to 1,776 feet. The spire also will serve as a broadcast antenna, replacing the one lost on the original WTC’s north tower.

The first tenants are expected to begin moving in to 1 WTC in late 2013.

http://www.lowermanhattan.info/news/1_wtc_starts_to_50786.aspx

March 7, 2012
1 WTC Starts to Shine on the Manhattan Skyline

Destined to be the country’s tallest skyscraper, 1 World Trade Center is on track to top out at 104 stories (1,368 feet) this spring. The tower’s steel frame now stands at 92 stories, and already has marked the downtown skyline, with its twin tower cranes visible from miles away. Contractor Tishman Construction is proceeding with the erection of the final dozen stories, which are being built as mechanical-equipment floors, rather than regular office floors, therefore requiring more time to complete. An observation deck will serve as the tower’s highest story.

The glass façade also is rapidly enclosing the structure, with panels reaching the 70th floor this month. The façade glass of 1 WTC uses a new form of high-performance, low-emittance (low-E) glass-coating technology, maximizing sunlight and minimizing heat gain inside the building. The coating also is reflective, creating a shimmering effect on the building’s surface.

This month, crews also will begin installing vertical glass panels around the building’s 186-foot-tall base, also called the podium. More than 4,000 frosted glass fins, each measuring 13 feet 4 inches-by-two feet, are being specially created by the contractor Permasteelisa. The glass fins will attach to the exterior of the podium wall at varying angles to create a series of v-shaped wing effects along the building surface. The wall also will use concealed energy-efficient LEDs to create a soft exterior glow. In addition to the illuminating the podium, the v-shaped glass cladding pattern will provide ventilation for the mechanical systems within, including a 1.2-megawatt, next-generation fuel-cell plant housed above the lobby.

One the steel structure tops out later this year, the Port Authority will spend approximately three months erecting the 400-foot-tall spire that will ultimately bring 1 WTC’s total height to 1,776 feet. The spire also will serve as a broadcast antenna, replacing the one lost on the original WTC’s north tower.

The first tenants are expected to begin moving in to 1 WTC in late 2013.

WOW!, Great news! :), so does that mean there is going to be an Observation Floor at the very top?

at least the height in the articles stays the same, so the antenna really only has a different design but stays the same otherwise :cheers:

WOW!, Great news! :), so does that mean there is going to be an Observation Floor at the very top?

Nope, it means observation deck is highest floor for public use..Above that are only mechanical floors..

My World Trade Center photos from Yesterday

Manhattan

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7046/6820000374_d4c8b320c4_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/42178139@N06/6820000374/)
DSCN2461 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/42178139@N06/6820000374/) by Nexis4Jersey09 (http://www.flickr.com/people/42178139@N06/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7206/6820000528_19e4fe6257_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/42178139@N06/6820000528/)
DSCN2463 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/42178139@N06/6820000528/) by Nexis4Jersey09 (http://www.flickr.com/people/42178139@N06/), on Flickr

From Jersey City

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7179/6966122017_279f7af193_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/42178139@N06/6966122017/)
DSCN2464 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/42178139@N06/6966122017/) by Nexis4Jersey09 (http://www.flickr.com/people/42178139@N06/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7209/6966122117_4270bf3a82_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/42178139@N06/6966122117/)
DSCN2465 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/42178139@N06/6966122117/) by Nexis4Jersey09 (http://www.flickr.com/people/42178139@N06/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7067/6966122819_51ab65572c_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/42178139@N06/6966122819/)
Katyn Memorial with WTC 1&4 Rising in the Background (http://www.flickr.com/photos/42178139@N06/6966122819/) by Nexis4Jersey09 (http://www.flickr.com/people/42178139@N06/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7044/6966123249_28e948122d_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/42178139@N06/6966123249/)
DSCN2475 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/42178139@N06/6966123249/) by Nexis4Jersey09 (http://www.flickr.com/people/42178139@N06/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7061/6821037846_276b0e2247_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/42178139@N06/6821037846/)
DSCN2557 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/42178139@N06/6821037846/) by Nexis4Jersey09 (http://www.flickr.com/people/42178139@N06/), on Flickr

Nice update.:okay:

Very large shipment of steel has been arriving all day at 1 WTC. This shot is at 12PM and does not include what has already been offloaded this morning.

http://www.wtcphotos.com/photos/wtc1_2012-03-09_p1.jpg

Image via KPI TV Webcam.
http://www.video-monitoring.com/construction/kpitv/silver.htm

I'm doubtful. They said there going to make it thinner and more functional looking. To me, that doesn't sound good. I liked the spire as is. It sounds more antennae-like than spire. I don't want to see a spire like atop the NYTT or 4TS. Which I'm afraid it will be.



As I said before, the hell with the damn spire! just leave the rooftop without it, and put an outdoor observation deck there. The antenna can go on top of any building. But like I said, it makes too much sense, and there will be some lame excuse for it. As always.

As I said before, the hell with the damn spire! just leave the rooftop without it, and put an outdoor observation deck there. The antenna can go on top of any building. But like I said, it makes too much sense, and there will be some lame excuse for it. As always.

Even if they removed the antenna, there would still be dozens of smaller antennas on the rooftop, so either way a rooftop observation deck could not exist. It's the same situation it was with the north tower.

Indeed, with the old twins it came out nice that there were two towers, one for the antennas and the other for an observation deck on the roof.

As I said before, the hell with the damn spire! just leave the rooftop without it, and put an outdoor observation deck there. The antenna can go on top of any building. But like I said, it makes too much sense, and there will be some lame excuse for it. As always.

Without the spire, it might as well be 2WTC that gets all the attention. It would actually be a few feet taller than 1wtc would be without the antenna. Plus, the antenna is necessary for broadcast reasons, so they're not taking it off.

Amazing set of photos, Nexis.
Thanks.

So apparently they're starting base cladding later this month?

So apparently they're starting base cladding later this month?

That's the word.

NCF

Are they building the new WTC one building at a time? When will they start construction on WTC 2? (That one is my favorite)

Even if they removed the antenna, there would still be dozens of smaller antennas on the rooftop, so either way a rooftop observation deck could not exist. It's the same situation it was with the north tower.

Well that actually does make sense, thanx. But then again with all the skyscrapers there, couldn't they use just any one of them, or does it have to be on the tallest?

Are they building the new WTC one building at a time? When will they start construction on WTC 2? (That one is my favorite)

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that the thread for WTC 2 would be a could place to look for those types of answers.

Without the spire, it might as well be 2WTC that gets all the attention. It would actually be a few feet taller than 1wtc would be without the antenna. Plus, the antenna is necessary for broadcast reasons, so they're not taking it off.

That's that one with the slanted rooftop? The one that is supposed to shine light at a certain spot, on that certain day of 9-11?

For an idea of what a thinner spire might look like, I went ahead and copy/pasted the old north tower antenna on top of 1WTC. Doesn't look too shabby, honestly.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b125/Uaarkson/hrmmm.png

All credit goes to STR for the original image.

For an idea of what a thinner spire might look like, I went ahead and copy/pasted the old north tower antenna on top of 1WTC. Doesn't look too shabby, honestly.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b125/Uaarkson/hrmmm.png

All credit goes to STR for the original image.



Agreed.^^^^

That really isnt that bad. Actually its really nice!

It'll probably look better than that even

For an idea of what a thinner spire might look like, I went ahead and copy/pasted the old north tower antenna on top of 1WTC. Doesn't look too shabby, honestly.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b125/Uaarkson/hrmmm.png

All credit goes to STR for the original image.

It would be fitting if they constructed a replica of the original north tower antenna.

3 more height jumps to go, and they just got a new shipment of steel.

So apparently they're starting base cladding later this month?

Apparently someone doesn't read the posts that come before his own...

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7026/6793917523_5b1a3bd10c_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/28311393@N02/6793917523/)
~ The Freedom Tower is rising ~ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/28311393@N02/6793917523/) by Leah / euroswiss2003 (http://www.flickr.com/people/28311393@N02/) on Flickr


http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7182/6965185259_c8d83e9e48_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/28311393@N02/6965185259/)
~ day 158 ~ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/28311393@N02/6965185259/) by Leah / euroswiss2003 (http://www.flickr.com/people/28311393@N02/) on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7182/6965185259_c8d83e9e48_b.jpg

OH MY GOD !!!!!!!!!!!!!


:cheers:

FROM: NYBOY75

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQD2AYgaz5E&list=UUhtU7A62TdyRVQm8CsdVwBw&index=1&feature=plcp

lol DAMN @ that pic above...

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7040/6823159434_96c3aced81_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/norcrossmedia/6823159434/)
World Trade Center - March 09, 2012 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/norcrossmedia/6823159434/) by NorcrossMedia (http://www.flickr.com/people/norcrossmedia/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7177/6823160226_1b6c8d0f5f_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/norcrossmedia/6823160226/)
World Trade Center - March 09, 2012 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/norcrossmedia/6823160226/) by NorcrossMedia (http://www.flickr.com/people/norcrossmedia/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7043/6969285373_f19dbfc966_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/norcrossmedia/6969285373/)
World Trade Center - March 09, 2012 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/norcrossmedia/6969285373/) by NorcrossMedia (http://www.flickr.com/people/norcrossmedia/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7036/6823161484_b34d91a671_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/norcrossmedia/6823161484/)
World Trade Center - March 09, 2012 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/norcrossmedia/6823161484/) by NorcrossMedia (http://www.flickr.com/people/norcrossmedia/), on Flickr

Here is a photo the communication ring being fabricated earlier this week. Enjoy :)

http://www.flickr.com/photos/alan1493/6969507439/

I am having problem getting photo to display, here is direct url

http://www.flickr.com/photos/alan1493/6969507439/

Alan

Here is a photo the communication ring being fabricated earlier this week. Enjoy :)

Alan
IMG]http://<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/alan1493/6969507439/" title="antenna_ring by alan1493, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7191/6969507439_5a68b84158.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="antenna_ring"></a>[/IMG]

fixed it for you
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7191/6969507439_5a68b84158.jpg

Thanks, how do I get tghe right url to past in for image ?

Thanks, how do I get tghe right url to past in for image ?

bro, check this out..
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=23004

Thanks, how do I get tghe right url to past in for image ?
On Flickr just copy/paste the HTML/BBCode that's aviable on the button "Share" just above the image. Here ;)

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7191/6969507439_5a68b84158_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/alan1493/6969507439/)
antenna_ring (http://www.flickr.com/photos/alan1493/6969507439/) by alan1493 (http://www.flickr.com/people/alan1493/), on Flickr

^The window washing track looks HUGE! I assume it is being stored at the ADF Group Shop, isn't it Allan?

yes, the stuff is up at ADF in canada

Great stuff here..Thanks Alan..Looks huge..

Great stuff here..Thanks Alan..Looks huge..

It is huge.

If you want to see some shots of antenna mast under fabrication, ADF has posted them on their web site using a flash slide show at http://www.adfgroup.com/projets/edifices/highrises.html

alan

It is huge.

If you want to see some shots of antenna mast under fabrication, ADF has posted them on their web site using a flash slide show at http://www.adfgroup.com/projets/edifices/highrises.html

alan


Great stuff! Thanks Alan! :cheers:

FROM: NYBOY758

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2-L6tSXaTQ

Here is a photo the communication ring being fabricated earlier this week. Enjoy :)

Alan

Do they disassemble it again before they bring it to the WTC site?

Nice pics on the website.

Do they disassemble it again before they bring it to the WTC site?

Yes, otherwise it's too heavy and big for the cranes.

Speed day. :cheers:
http://www.earthcam.com/usa/newyork/worldtradecenter/?cam=wtc_tl

http://media.snimka.bg/s1/0173/026589095-big.jpg?r=0

March 10th, 2012

http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy281/DKNY621/IMG_1656.jpg
http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy281/DKNY621/IMG_1657.jpg
http://i1227.photobucket.com/albums/ee429/dkny622/IMG_1674.jpg
http://i1227.photobucket.com/albums/ee429/dkny622/IMG_1676.jpg
http://i1227.photobucket.com/albums/ee429/dkny622/IMG_1677.jpg
http://i1227.photobucket.com/albums/ee429/dkny622/IMG_1678.jpg
http://i1227.photobucket.com/albums/ee429/dkny622/IMG_1683.jpg
http://i1227.photobucket.com/albums/ee429/dkny622/IMG_1684.jpg
http://i1227.photobucket.com/albums/ee429/dkny622/IMG_1686.jpg
http://i997.photobucket.com/albums/af100/DKNY620/IMG_1688.jpg
http://i997.photobucket.com/albums/af100/DKNY620/IMG_1689.jpg

Anyone know why the beams are now green? Tremendous progress the last few days!

Are they using lighter steel now?

nice pics NYCD!

Maybe the steel is painted,the steel of the base was painted red.

Interesting differences in the steel in the last set of photos. It isn't painted the standard anti-rust red. Also, the horizontal I-beams have plates on the outside with tabs sticking out.

What is going in these floors? Observation deck? Communications gear? ... ?

awesome progress lately!

Interesting differences in the steel in the last set of photos. It isn't painted the standard anti-rust red. Also, the horizontal I-beams have plates on the outside with tabs sticking out.

What is going in these floors? Observation deck? Communications gear? ... ?

It is a special epoxy paint since these floors are mechanical rooms with air intakes and exhaust and the fireproofing is different, cementitious. This epoxy prevents the corrosion but also allows the fireproofing to adhere to the steel and pass the required pull tests.

Alan

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7210/6972837499_9f5d2b1f61.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/alan1493/6972837499/)
March 2012 WTC Progress Newsletter-1-Page-1 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/alan1493/6972837499/) by alan1493 (http://www.flickr.com/people/alan1493/), on Flickr

Here is a higher resolution scan so you can see what podium will look like

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7203/6826747450_679ce6a435.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/alan1493/6826747450/)
March 2012 WTC Progress Newsletter-1-Page-1 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/alan1493/6826747450/) by alan1493 (http://www.flickr.com/people/alan1493/), on Flickr

NICE PICTURES NYCD!!!!!
it finally really starts to impress me now, freaking tall!

FROM: NYBOY75

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5a1DzdVpNY

FROM: NYBOY75

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5a1DzdVpNY

Thank you for the video. Shows that the new World Trade Center(s) give NY's skyline a new, better and complete look :cucumber:

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7026/6793917523_5b1a3bd10c_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/28311393@N02/6793917523/)
~ The Freedom Tower is rising ~ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/28311393@N02/6793917523/) by Leah / euroswiss2003 (http://www.flickr.com/people/28311393@N02/) on Flickr


http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7182/6965185259_c8d83e9e48_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/28311393@N02/6965185259/)
~ day 158 ~ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/28311393@N02/6965185259/) by Leah / euroswiss2003 (http://www.flickr.com/people/28311393@N02/) on Flickr
AMAZING IMAGE!!!!!

You're Welcome guys! But I should say thank you for showing appreciation and thanking me for my photos. :)

I really do it to share and post on the forums... and atleast here I get thanked for it or complimented for it unlike another forum that people only seem to be complimenting one person for the same exact shot every single day.

So thank you guys!

Fantastic skyscrapers!

FROM: NYBOY75

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OA7oftDxUc

Everything is tall in Manhatten! And yet this tower is another landmark among the other giants. Brilliant.

Any news on the leasing front?

Mechanical floors, two floors to be occupied by the Metropolitan Television Alliance, restaurants and observation decks culminate in an observation deck and glass parapet that mark 1362' and 1368' respectively — the heights of the original Twin Towers.http://www.nling.info/g.gif

There are no restaurants in 1 WTC...

FROM: NYBOY75

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OA7oftDxUc


Thanks for the video NYBOY. Its looking good:)

You're Welcome guys! But I should say thank you for showing appreciation and thanking me for my photos. :)

I really do it to share and post on the forums... and atleast here I get thanked for it or complimented for it unlike another forum that people only seem to be complimenting one person for the same exact shot every single day.

So thank you guys!

That'll be carlos? he used to be on here till somebody upset him and he went off in a huff. :lol::lol:
He does like a bit of praise does carlos.

That'll be carlos? he used to be on here till somebody upset him and he went off in a huff. :lol::lol:
He does like a bit of praise does carlos.


Has he still not come back yet. I got in trouble for that arguement aswell. What was it about again. Typing in different colours I think.

Any news on the leasing front?

Look at the top of the page. But...

Conde Nest: 1.15 M sf

Vantone/China Center: 190,000 sf

Chadbourne & Park: 200,000 - 250,000 sf

Look at the top of the page. But...

Conde Nest: 1.15 M sf

Vantone/China Center: 190,000 sf

Chadbourne & Park: 200,000 - 250,000 sf

You left out the GSA lease. Below are the exact amounts of square footage leased and the floors they'll locate to. *Chadbourne & Park haven't signed yet. Looks likely, but it isn't official yet.

Floors 64-69: China Center (Vantone Industrial Co.) 190,810 sq ft
50-56: General Services Agency 300,000 sq ft
20-44: CondeNast 1,141,012 sq ft (+30,000 on first level and below grade)

New York is New york
the Capital of the World

That'll be carlos? he used to be on here till somebody upset him and he went off in a huff. :lol::lol:
He does like a bit of praise does carlos.

not sure if he "likes" it but he sure as hell deserves it. The guy does it every day for us and also goes into the city for other pics too, so to the poster that said it's always from the same spot, get your facts straight

not sure if he "likes" it but he sure as hell deserves it. The guy does it every day for us and also goes into the city for other pics too, so to the poster that said it's always from the same spot, get your facts straight

I'll do this in PM's.

:)

If you cross your eyes and have a little imagination it's like they are rebuilding the original wtc..

http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2012/066/1/8/new_york_by_tylersrose-d4s07pg.jpg
http://my.deviantart.com/messages/#/d4s07pg

Beekman will always be the highlight of that angle. :)

Beekman will always be the highlight of that angle. :)

One more reason I think they built WTC1 too small.

If it were over 1,500 ft it would dominate Beekman, even from that angle, as it should.

Anyone know when they will actually start on the base cladding?

Beekman will always be the highlight of that angle. :)


I wish this was not so, however it is what it is and 1 World Trade can be seen from different angles that makes Beekman pale in height.

http://www.youtube.com/user/NYBOY75

I agree but it's tall enough for now... NYC will build taller buildings in the future I'm sure.

^^That's a great view with the mix of old (Woolworth ) & up-and-coming skyscrapers.




:horse:

Beekman will always be the highlight of that angle. :)

Yep. I dunno about that Beekman, some days I like it and others I don't. It's there so I guess I might as well appreciate it. :) On another note, I really hope that base cladding starts soon. We heard some news it was supposed to start next month(?) I bet it'll look great.. can't wait :D

why has it been so dark around this time?

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg607/scaled.php?server=607&filename=wutt.png&res=medium

think it's been the same for the past few days

I think we shouldn't worry about the Beekman dominating, it's a great piece of architecture, and only dominates from Brooklyn, as it was supposed to. My only issue with the development of downtown is the chance that the Woolworth will start to be covered, it's in my opinion, inarguably the World's best, most beautiful building, and it stinks that the day is not too far away when it will be lost in the fog of downtown highrises.

Sorry, I'm not from New York... Is the woolworth building the one with the green roof. If so, it's beautiful. Wasn't it the one that was competiting witth Chrysler building to get worlds highest building before ESB was built?

Sorry, I'm not from New York... Is the woolworth building the one with the green roof. If so, it's beautiful. Wasn't it the one that was competiting witth Chrysler building to get worlds highest building before ESB was built?

No, you're thinking of 40 Wall Street.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7156/6424942777_42e0ca2b1e_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/18842924@N03/6424942777/)
40 Wall Street (http://www.flickr.com/photos/18842924@N03/6424942777/) by SBGrad (http://www.flickr.com/people/18842924@N03/), on Flickr

It's the one to the immediate right of beekman in the photo.

Beekman will always be the highlight of that angle. :)

Beekman's highlight days are numbered. In a month or two, when 1WTC is topped out, the roof will be just below where the tips of those cranes are now. So it will appear even taller than Beekman, even from Brooklyn when it is topped out! :) And once the spire is installed on top, it will dominate even more! Just picture 1wtc's roofline below where the tips of the cranes are now, and you can see that it will appear taller than Beekman.

The moon's been in a good position for photographs lately.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7202/6831868522_8841a2d13f_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/28030045@N06/6831868522/)
World Trade Center with the Moon (http://www.flickr.com/photos/28030045@N06/6831868522/) by drken10003 (http://www.flickr.com/people/28030045@N06/), on Flickr

If you cross your eyes and have a little imagination it's like they are rebuilding the original wtc..


Umm...no.

If you cross your eyes and have a little imagination it's like they are rebuilding the original wtc..

http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2012/066/1/8/new_york_by_tylersrose-d4s07pg.jpg
http://my.deviantart.com/messages/#/d4s07pg

I just can't over how ugly the verizon building is; that just ruins the whole scenery from that angle for me. Any chance that some1 would try to reclad that monstrosity?

If I were emperor, the Verizon Building would be reclad with cor-ten steel.

Umm...no.


Umm...yes. :banana:

WELP.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7200/6976616397_ea0bd00c5b_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/severalseconds/6976616397/)
The up-above (http://www.flickr.com/photos/severalseconds/6976616397/) by Several seconds (http://www.flickr.com/people/severalseconds/), on Flickr

Love the Flatiron Building...one of the most interesting structures in New York.^^

Here are a couple of pics of my buddy Chris who is an iron worker at the top of WTC1.

Yesterday:
http://www.wtcphotos.com/photos/ChrisMarronWTC1_2012-03-12.jpg
Photo: Chris Marron

February 17th:
http://www.wtcphotos.com/photos/ChrisMarronWTC1_2012-02-17.jpg
Photo: Chris Marron

WOW :D Tell your buddy Chris to keep up the good work and stay safe!

No, you're thinking of 40 Wall Street.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7156/6424942777_42e0ca2b1e_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/18842924@N03/6424942777/)
40 Wall Street (http://www.flickr.com/photos/18842924@N03/6424942777/) by SBGrad (http://www.flickr.com/people/18842924@N03/), on Flickr

probably but the Woolworth has green roof as well

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7063/6830741858_720248d4dd_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jev/6830741858/sizes/l/in/photostream/

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7194/6977615851_5c2a3a0093_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/davidnyc/6977615851/sizes/l/in/photostream/

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7186/6823315794_381781dfd9_b.jpg

Some photos taken by me yesterday...(3/12/2012):

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r48/Athinaios/IMG_3792.jpg

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r48/Athinaios/IMG_3797.jpg

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r48/Athinaios/IMG_3799.jpg

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r48/Athinaios/IMG_3824.jpg

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r48/Athinaios/IMG_3827.jpg

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r48/Athinaios/IMG_3840.jpg

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r48/Athinaios/IMG_3856.jpg

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r48/Athinaios/IMG_3863.jpg

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r48/Athinaios/IMG_3864.jpg

enjoy!

Who else wanna have one more of this?

is it on course to topped off in April?

is it on course to topped off in April?
no

is it on course to topped off in April?

I can tell you right now that ain't happening.

I can tell you right now that ain't happening.


baaaaaaaaah :bash::bash::bash::bash::bash::bash:

what is the new date?

baaaaaaaaah :bash::bash::bash::bash::bash::bash:

what is the new date?

Approx 3 height jumps left, so I'd say early to mid May

Approx 3 height jumps left, so I'd say early to mid May

That's fine with me! haha, I just left New York, I will be back Mid-May ;) so it better be topped out!

Approx 3 height jumps left, so I'd say early to mid May

I would say about 5 or 6 height jumps left, maybe less, depending on how long the perimeter columns for the remaining set of floors are. The next jump will bring it to floor 100, then 102, then 103, 104, 105, and lastly the parapet that will top it off.

Yesterday:
http://www.wtcphotos.com/photos/ChrisMarronWTC1_2012-03-12.jpg
Photo: Chris Marron

You could show that photo to people and they would probably say that its like 40-50 years old! There are no modern buildings in the back ground at all! The fact that all the th trees etc. are brown give it a kind of old feel to it as well. :)

I just can't over how ugly the verizon building is; that just ruins the whole scenery from that angle for me. Any chance that some1 would try to reclad that monstrosity?

They tried, but the plan fell through.

http://www.archpaper.com/uploads/image/Verizon.jpg

You could show that photo to people and they would probably say that its like 40-50 years old! There are no modern buildings in the back ground at all! The fact that all the th trees etc. are brown give it a kind of old feel to it as well. :)

Actually the court building behind the one with the goldish top was completed fairly recently, and there is a building just to the right in the foreground, the Barclay tower looks new, and was completed in 2007.

They tried, but the plan fell through.

http://www.archpaper.com/uploads/image/Verizon.jpg

If that is to be the new cladding, they beter stick to the original.

Executive Director of PA w/ WTC Construction Director Steve Plate on the 92nd floor of Tower 1

http://a.yfrog.com/img612/2518/hdwaa.jpg

from https://twitter.com/#!/WTCProgress

Thought I should share this picture! When I was in NYC last week I went to the Barnes and Noble about 3 blocks from the WTC, and saw this construction worker reading a book haha. It was so out of place! Cool to see them on their breaks.


http://i1261.photobucket.com/albums/ii590/cjreisen/479256_3505323512661_1258952515_33575833_1746482897_o.jpg

Nice shots on this page!

Iron workers on steel beams on the 92nd floor

http://a.yfrog.com/img741/205/3rvje.jpg

https://twitter.com/#!/WTCProgress

Fireproofing has resumed. Curtain wall installation shouldn't be far behind. :)

If that is to be the new cladding, they beter stick to the original.
:applause::applause:

So i was just wondering why the steel on the current floors is gray, mechanical floors or something?

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7063/6830741858_720248d4dd_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jev/6830741858/sizes/l/in/photostream/


^^Stunning^^

^^yeah, love it ! ! WTC and the Beekman fitting right in between the W'burg,and Brooklyn bridges, and the Manhattan Bridge behind the Beekman , awesome!

Oh yeah that pic is awesome.

So i was just wondering why the steel on the current floors is gray, mechanical floors or something?

Yes! These will be open air floors (vents) and the steel has a protective coating. See quote below.

It is a special epoxy paint since these floors are mechanical rooms with air intakes and exhaust and the fireproofing is different, cementitious. This epoxy prevents the corrosion but also allows the fireproofing to adhere to the steel and pass the required pull tests.

Alan

FROM: NYBOY75

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbbmxB8RcTw

thx pnapp1!

diagram update
i hope i have it right
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7064/6837346620_0fe929407a_o.jpg

Bit of trivia: The real Freedom Tower in Miami was recently lit up in red, matching with Tower One's lighting scheme.

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diagram update
i hope i have it right


nice diagram. :okay:

If that is to be the new cladding, they beter stick to the original.

:applause::applause:

What's wrong with the proposed re-cladding? It looks nice and modern, unlike the vanilla brutalist current one.

Why for some people modern has to be better?

https://twitter.com/#!/WTCProgress

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I'm suprised by the lack of floor area in this building. Apparently, 2WTC and even 3WTC will have more total floor area than 1WTC. Why is that?

^The building is thinner at the top, the others are fatter buildings.


The last pictures are from about the same height the observation area will be at.. nice view

remember :
New World Trade Center will not make us forget the original World Trade Center

remember :
New World Trade Center will not make us forget the original World Trade Center

Oh alright.

Don't worry :(, I'm sure it will still stand out :)

remember :
New World Trade Center will not make us forget the original World Trade Center

what's your point?

I have not checked this thread in months, and I must say they have made quite a bit of progress on it.

remember :
New World Trade Center will not make us forget the original World Trade Center

Uh, what exactly are you insinuating here?

Bit of trivia: The real Freedom Tower in Miami was recently lit up in red, matching with Tower One's lighting scheme.

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Oh yes, Our building in Downtown Miami IS officially called the "Freedom Tower." A beautiful old building but she is far from the tallest in South Florida.

Can't wait for this to finish.

^^ I the same thing :cheers:

Uh, what exactly are you insinuating here?

It sounded pretty shady to me.

Uh, what exactly are you insinuating here?

I know his name is Arabian boy but I think he was just trying to be nice (I think) so give him a break

But maybe not :nuts:

New level has started, visible on Carlos pics
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ceva321/

Yes, floor 93.

So what is the height now? Whatever it is, New York City now has a new second tallest. Next stop: THE EMPIRE STATE BUILDING! :D

The roof of the ESB is 381 m. So if this tower is up to floor 100, it beats the roof height of the ESB.

Yes, floor 93.

I think it's up to level 100 (keep in mind they skip 94-99). So height should be about 1,240'+ about 4' for the splice. Very close to passing the ESB.

I think it's up to level 100 (keep in mind they skip 94-99). So height should be about 1,240'+ about 4' for the splice. Very close to passing the ESB.

The core steel is at 93M or 1,223' 6". The 100th floor will be reached when the next set of perimeter columns are erected.

The core steel is at 93M or 1,223' 6". The 100th floor will be reached when the next set of perimeter columns are erected.

Those columns look to be taller than a mere 15'. I'm thinking they're perimeter columns on the west side. Perimeter columns have preceded core columns before. Carlos' photo isn't level after all. Hard to be 100% certain. But I make it to be level 100.

From Skyscraperpage.com

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Why does it skip floors?

Why does it skip floors?

just higher ceiling height.. just like at the lobby

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Why does it skip floors?

Because the mechanical floors are double/triple height but they just call them one floor I don't really know.

Those columns look to be taller than a mere 15'. I'm thinking they're perimeter columns on the west side. Perimeter columns have preceded core columns before. Carlos' photo isn't level after all. Hard to be 100% certain. But I make it to be level 100.

Appearances can be very deceiving. The new steel is an extra 15' plus the splices. When the 93rd perimeter steel was being erected the core steel that was erected was at 92M. Lately the core has been going up before the new perimeter columns. The new core steel is being placed at the top of 92M so the columns are about 30' above 92M.

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These guys have been stuck on the 92nd floor for an eternity

^^ I'm pretty much sure they just put up new steel this week.

Lovely diagram Otie!
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Great drawing of the progress Otie.

nice photo

These guys have been stuck on the 92nd floor for an eternity

There's new steel up today.

Burj Khalifa has been completed for a long ass time now. It should have been put in the archives.

just higher ceiling height.. just like at the lobby

So that explains the lack of floor area in 1WTC...

Burj Khalifa has been completed for a long ass time now. It should have been put in the archives.


I'm sure that some palm trees around the tower need to be planted. Therefore it needs to stay in the construction forums. :lol:

FROM: NYBOY75

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mouQ6-_L2T8&list=UUhtU7A62TdyRVQm8CsdVwBw&index=1&feature=plcp

Come on! 3 more jumps and that's it!

just higher ceiling height.. just like at the lobby




Ah thanks.

I like how from one angle the tower looks square, like the old WTC twins, but if you look at it from the corner it looks like it angles inwards, like its a totally different tower.

I like how from one angle the tower looks square, like the old WTC twins, but if you look at it from the corner it looks like it angles inwards, like its a totally different tower.

I agree!. I love how the building is actually a square technically and remains the same height as the original Twins, but the sides are just cut off, however each triangle is straight, so its square facing on all 4 sides, but it is slightly inwards when looked upon sidewards :)

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great story & vidoe on daily news web site also this morning at

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The construction lights as configured give us a glimpse of how the tower will really look like once completed at night.

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I'll be visiting NYC in the next week or two; certainly before March is over. I can't wait to see how the building looks. I hope I can discern a differant than when I was there a month ago! :)

Otie won't the tenants install dividers etc so there will be a lot more patterns by the lights at night? The old towers had so many small windows so close together and at night when different people had their lights on it looked so cool. But now because the windows are MASSIVE and are floor to ceiling im concerned that at night it may look too bright with not enough breaks in between lit and unlit parts... if anyone gets what im trying to say.. if not post a picture of the old North Tower at night and WTC1 and you will see what I mean.

^The lighting arrangement you refer will eventually appear once tenants move to the tower, though the dark "breaks" you say will be less due to the modular configuration of the cubicles. A typical cubicle measures 15ft by 15ft, taking exactly a row of 3 panels; so the smallest light break should be 15ft large, unless the tenant decides to set curtains which would allow to create the pattern you're mentioning.

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Hmm...so the willis tower will be taller (structural height). I thought WTC1 would become the new tallest tower in the USA?

Spires are counted in final hight, so yes this will be the tallest in the USA. :)

Because it's hard to see New York and Chicago in the same view no one will notice the height difference between WTC and Willis Tower.......statistics will tell the story. I feel a bit the same in OZ when they say Q1 Tower in Queensland is taller than Eureka Tower in Melbourne. If any two buildings actually stood side by side your brain would tell you which is higher without reading anything.
PS I like both buildings : )

Thanks for replying otie :) I just absolutely loved the old wtc looked at night it was spectacular. I doubt any of the tenants will use curtains and if they did I think all the tenants would need to use them to achieve close to the same effect but I guess anything is possible. Do you or does anyone know if it will have 4 beacons on the roof and 1 on the spire or just the spire?*

You can see why I loved it in this video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pgzJv2CYX4 imagine seeing that every night :D!*

Amazing tower :applause: I really want to thank all you guys for sharing all those great photos with us...THANK YOU :cheers:

CBS news reported this has surpassed ESB or maybe I heard it wrong

I get all my news right here on SSC. I bet CBS still calls it the freedom tower.

Has anyone played around with alternate visions for the roof/spire? It's an attrative structure but I'm growing less and less fond of the spire as this building comes to fruition. Something about the shape that seems too detached from the rest of the structure.

Hmm...so the willis tower will be taller (structural height). I thought WTC1 would become the new tallest tower in the USA?

The sears tower is structurally 527 meters (1730 feet)

1WTC is 541 meters (1776 feet)

(Although some say 544 meters and 1787 feet to the top of a lightning rod)

From the lowest public open-air entrance to the tip of the lightning rod 1WTC will be 1795'-4". Of course the rod won't count as part of the building's integrity, 1787'-4" should be the official number (top of spire).

I love everything about this tower except the damn antennae/spire. Its even more impressive in person! can't wait to go back to nyc