Does anybody actually know how tall the tower is now? I thought it was 1334'

Currently it is 1345 feet or 410 meters tall :cheers:

Currently it is 1345 feet or 410 meters tall :cheers:

YAY 19 meters to go!!

Currently it is 1345 feet or 410 meters tall :cheers:

It's already on the parapet!? That means there is 29 feet left to go. Wow :happy:

YAY 19 meters to go!!

It's 9 meters :lol:

It's already on the parapet!? That means there is 29 feet left to go. Wow :happy:

Atm only the 4 feet column splices are at parapet level. The additional 7 feet are 1 foot for additional 8 inches and 6 additional feet for the properly measured height :cheers:

you know what, why not just top it off like that, it looks awesome!

:bash: It looks horrible. I mean, It doesn't call my attention at all. When I saw the picture, my eyes drifted first to the shuttle and then to the skyline, out of which ESB jumped out, but it took me time to notice 1 WTC... it seems unfinished, undecorated, cold and evil.

It's 9 meters :lol:

Correction 9 meters lol! I guess I mistyped again :cheers:

If I'm correct the base cladding is also starting soon?

:bash: It looks horrible. I mean, It doesn't call my attention at all. When I saw the picture, my eyes drifted first to the shuttle and then to the skyline, out of which ESB jumped out, but it took me time to notice 1 WTC... it seems unfinished, undecorated, cold and evil.

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:bash: It looks horrible. I mean, It doesn't call my attention at all. When I saw the picture, my eyes drifted first to the shuttle and then to the skyline, out of which ESB jumped out, but it took me time to notice 1 WTC... it seems unfinished, undecorated, cold and evil.

That is one damn ignorent comment...

Even if they build the antenna at least they could build it without that hideous ring. They should build a simple good old fashioned antenna like the one on the North Tower or on ESB :cheers:

Oh Kanto :lol: ... If only you knew that the "old fashioned antennas" which you talk about were not so old-fashion, but late XX century additions. ESB's original spire, from the early XX cent., which ends at the upper observation capsule, was designed with looks very much in mind and was to serve as a landing post for blimps. The upper, more horrible, metal structure of disparate sticks and cables (in the brutalist style that you so much love) was added later and was never intended in the original plan of the structure.

Now, did I just hear you say that ESB's first architect designed such a proportionate, detailed, symbolic, and symmetric structure to be topped off by a disproportionate, under-construction-looking pinnacle that only looks good from afar? Doesn't seem to make sense.

EDIT: It just dawned on me that this last sentence ^^ has validity with the newly redesigned spire of 1 WTC and its contrast to the detail, symmetry and symbolism of the tower.

That is one damn ignorent comment...

If somebody else's oppinion is "one damn ignorant comment," then yes: it is one damn ignorant comment. I still stand by my opinion

Saludos!

If somebody else's oppinion is "one damn ignorant comment," then yes: it is one damn ignorant comment. I still stand by my opinion

Saludos!

Yeah I respect your opinion but on the way you said it was kind of smashing :)

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Whoa, I appreciate the fact that you can't seem to be able to bear hearing somebody else's opponion, but frankly, you didn't have to be so kind as to spend your valuable time looking for a facepalm to post here. That is so creative.

Yeah I respect your opinion but on the way you said it was kind of smashing :)

you would've understood if you had seen that I was referring to a previous forum member's depiction of 1 WTC without the spire and communications that I'm so crazy about. :)

I guess now its almost time to celebrate the conclusion of the actuall steel structor of the actuall building. I would say one more month and its Topping out time..

Lol that's a little OVERestimated!

you would've understood if you had seen that I was referring to a previous forum member's depiction of 1 WTC without the spire and communications that I'm so crazy about. :)

Didn't notice that though lol

:bash: It looks horrible. I mean, It doesn't call my attention at all. When I saw the picture, my eyes drifted first to the shuttle and then to the skyline, out of which ESB jumped out, but it took me time to notice 1 WTC... it seems unfinished, undecorated, cold and evil.

Agreed! Are you people insane?! It looks hideous, unfinished, and plain out boring without a spire/antenna! :bash:

Well i never bet money, but for fun, i will bet that tower one will be toppled out some time between the first and third week of july. cause we have to remember these are now mechanical floors there constructing, so it all ways takes longer to build those floors then regular office floors...

Wayy overestimated, idk why people think it's going to take that long.......

SAVE THE SPIRE!!!!

:bash: It looks horrible. I mean, It doesn't call my attention at all. When I saw the picture, my eyes drifted first to the shuttle and then to the skyline, out of which ESB jumped out, but it took me time to notice 1 WTC... it seems unfinished, undecorated, cold and evil.


Sorry, I didn't know you were referring to the picture w/o the spire. :lol:
It that case, it does look pretty bad.

The mechanical floors shouldn't take a lot more time than the office floors. The mechanical floors are about 2 office floors. 1 office floor would take a week. So a wild guess maybe about 1,5 week for mechanical floors because they don't have to prep a new floor they just make the frames a bit taller.

Sorry, I didn't know you were referring to the picture w/o the spire. :lol:
It that case, it does look pretty bad.

Yeah I didn't knew either.

Wow topping out is just around the corner I can't wait. Oh BTW has anyone noticed the title of this thread go back to 1776ft from 1374ft?

Sorry, I didn't know you were referring to the picture w/o the spire. :lol:
It that case, it does look pretty bad.

^^ That's ok... just a little misunderstanding there. Cheers!


To completionnnn.....!!! and beyondddddddd

:cheers:

Make your bets people! When will it be topped out?:okay:

July 4th, 2012 :cheers:

^^ Haha that would be cool..or even Flag Day when Obama is there :) I'm gonna say the week of the 20th of June

*P.S.* Glass is now approximately 950 feet high!! If the glass was it's own structure, it would be the 7nth highest structure in the city!! only 2 feet to surpass the spire of the AIG Building :)

Wow 1 wtc is already 84 feet taller then the empire state building seems like yesterday when it surpass it !

^^ lol I was thinking the same exact thing..so here are some stats! :)

One World Trade Center is...........

-84 feet taller than the Empire State Building
-134 feet taller than Bank of America Tower
-288 feet taller than the Chrysler Building/NY Times Tower
-382 feet taller than AIG Tower WITH the spire!
-407 feet taller than 40 Wall Street WITH the spire!
-484 feet taller than GE Building/One Chase Manhattan
-593 feet taller than 7 World Trade Center

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-only 117 feet below the roof of the Sears Tower!!
-only 55 feet from surpassing the spire of the Trump Tower

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-17nth tallest building in the world
-11nth highest roof height in the world!! soon to be in the Top 10 once it surpasses the 1,335 foot roof height (1 foot) of 2 International Commerce Center :D

Agreed! Are you people insane?! It looks hideous, unfinished, and plain out boring without a spire/antenna! :bash:Calm down folks I photoshopped that myself for fun, it's nothing official. I wasn't able to make a realistic spire so I left it without one.

Calm down folks I photoshopped that myself for fun, it's nothing official. I wasn't able to make a realistic spire so I left it without one.

Many people don't seem to have the word "calm" in their vocabulary around here

Many people don't seem to have the word "calm" in their vocabulary around here

:applause:

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Calm down folks I photoshopped that myself for fun, it's nothing official. I wasn't able to make a realistic spire so I left it without one.

I know, great job with the rendering. I was referring to other peoples comments not you sorry

Great building, really takes the height of ny to different levels

craziest part is, roofwise, there could easily be 3 or 4 towers that top this by decades end, maybe more

No offense, but your saying that now? I'm sure it will be a lot different, and you will have a different opinion when the other 400M and 300M 2WTC and 4WTC are built, also IWTC isn't finished yet. Even though it may take a while for them to be built, perhaps wait until they are finished, then we will have many high buildings. :)

This cluster although not the best, is still good. I can't see it being bland and submissive since it really does stand out from the older buildings surrounding it.

Its shaping up to look quite nice to be honest. It needs a spire/antenna. Without one, it will look exactly like the tower in South Korea and a bit like SWFC, it certainly needs some differentiation.

AGAIN: No comparisons with or discussions about the old WTC in here! We had several fights about it and won't allow such talks anymore, so just refrain from stating things in connection to it. THANKS!

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Another great picture
http://www.earthcam.com/swf/cam_player/temp_images/1338992231140.jpg

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This a great picture that's for sure. I will be getting video updates this weekend from Rockaway, and Brooklyn, wish I could do them today, but I have to work, maybe Friday night after work. Does anybody know if the cocoon will rise before Saturday? I wanted to get video and pictures of the steel before the cocoon rises. Anyway I will do the best I can to bring everybody different angle shots in next days, also I will be doing video's and pics even after this baby is topped out and of other projects as well. Take care everyone for now and keep the great pictures coming!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/user/NYBOY75

It will look huge once the glass is added.

When will the transportation hub be finished?

^^ 2014? 2015? :dunno:

More steel in this moment....

http://www.earthcam.com/usa/newyork/skyline/

Sorry, I don't have time to read all thread, but is spire returned back?

Getting better.

Sorry, I don't have time to read all thread, but is spire returned back?

No, nothing's changed lately

There is more steel on the last floor!
http://www.earthcam.com/swf/cam_player/temp_images/1339008704789.jpg

Walk across the Brooklyn bridge for the first time in over a year my god 1 wtc has gotten massive form that view.

There is more steel on the last floor!
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Almost there...almost there...

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Found on Reddit

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Found on Reddit



Awesome photo!

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Those 2 pics are perfect for my desktop! Thanks!

Almost there...almost there...

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Classic! Thanks for the laugh. I've followed this tower so closely from the beginning (Apr '06), and now it's roof is nearly topped out. Wow! :banana:

Quick question, Are they gonna finish the glass before they put the antenna on? Or will they put the antenna on while they are putting the glass on?

I've never seen this up close and I live in NY. Crazy to see it almost finished.

Quick question, Are they gonna finish the glass before they put the antenna on? Or will they put the antenna on while they are putting the glass on?

The Spire will be assembled while cladding is still going on. Glass should be complete to the top by the end of December...maybe even a bit sooner due to the recent accelerated pace...The Spire should begin somewhere between late July-September I heard for completion at the end of this year as well...We will see an almost complete building from the outside anyway at the end of this year:)

The Spire will be assembled while cladding is still going on. Glass should be complete to the top by the end of December...maybe even a bit sooner due to the recent accelerated pace...The Spire should begin somewhere between late July-September I heard for completion at the end of this year as well...We will see an almost complete building from the outside anyway at the end of this year:)
I cant wait :D I found this picture on my computer from 2008 of 1WTC!
http://www.earthcam.com/swf/cam_player/temp_images/1339022641509.jpg

The earliest one I have of 1WTC is from 2006:
http://www.earthcam.com/swf/cam_player/temp_images/1339022939729.jpg

Those 2 pics are perfect for my desktop! Thanks!

You´re welcome! I´m going to post much more from different angles and different buildings these days...keep waiting!

Here, wth Mr. Libeskind today. We speak about the height of the tower...xD

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There is more steel on the last floor!
http://www.earthcam.com/swf/cam_player/temp_images/1339008704789.jpg

The Parapet I presume? Or more jump....

WOW! Best picture i think yet in the night :D So amazing!!!!
http://www.earthcam.com/swf/cam_player/temp_images/1339035372175.jpg

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8017/7162274173_7f4e15382e_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ccho/7162274173/)
Downtown Lightning 1 WTC (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ccho/7162274173/) by ccho (http://www.flickr.com/people/ccho/) on Flickr


http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7245/7162273725_68118bfee9_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ccho/7162273725/)
Downtown Manhattan HDR (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ccho/7162273725/) by ccho (http://www.flickr.com/people/ccho/) on Flickr

Second photo is awesome!

Can someone PLEASE shop the whole trade centre, 30 park place and 56 Leonard into the last shot? PLEASE!!!!

Some more awesome pics!

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No, nothing's changed lately

How come this thread is now showing 1776ft instead of 1374ft? I thought the antenna didn't count toward the total height?

How come this thread is now showing 1776ft instead of 1374ft? I thought the antenna didn't count toward the total height?

The official ruling if 1wtc antenna will count will be done by the Council on Tall Buildings and Urban Habitat, so i think that skyscaper city realize that so change it back to 1776 until Council on Tall Buildings and Urban Habitat makes its ruling.

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Downtown Lightning 1 WTC (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ccho/7162274173/) by ccho (http://www.flickr.com/people/ccho/) on Flickr


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Downtown Manhattan HDR (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ccho/7162273725/) by ccho (http://www.flickr.com/people/ccho/) on Flickr
Amazing shots.

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https://p.twimg.com/AuzDFHBCMAAwFr8.jpg:large

https://twitter.com/#!/WTCProgress

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from the liberty cam view 1 wtc has officially became dominate like the twins had. http://www.earthcam.com/usa/newyork/statueofliberty/?cam=liberty_hd

The official ruling if 1wtc antenna will count will be done by the Council on Tall Buildings and Urban Habitat, so i think that skyscaper city realize that so change it back to 1776 until Council on Tall Buildings and Urban Habitat makes its ruling.

so they made an exception for this building?

or are they going to change that ghastly re-designed antenna into something else?

Space Shuttle Enterprise
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Universe Today

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so they made an exception for this building?

or are they going to change that ghastly re-designed antenna into something else?

No one knows yet. Either they are going to go against their system and count an antennae, or they won't count it.

http://www.collectspace.com/images/news-042712a/001.jpg

http://www.spacesafetymagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Space-Shuttle-Enterprise-lands-at-JFK-Airport-in-New-York_2_1.jpg

Space Safety Magazine

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https://twitter.com/#!/WTCProgress

When are they going to put the glass on the lobby? Its like they skipped putting glass on the lobby for some reason...

When are they going to put the glass on the lobby? Its like they skipped putting glass on the lobby for some reason...
October

Thought I would put these videos up as we come to the topping out of 1 wtc.

Twin towers construction: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VABEDjtIyu0&feature=related

Twin towers 1976:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNCqE9XfgDo&feature=related

^^ wow... I actually think they looked much more massive O.O

^^ wow... I actually think they looked much more massive O.O I agree. It's the combination of no world financial center and of course two of them.

Is the museum done yet by the way?

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Downtown Manhattan HDR (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ccho/7162273725/) by ccho (http://www.flickr.com/people/ccho/) on Flickr

I like that middle finger look, with #1 sticking up, the way, so many thought it should have been rebuilt as, right after 9/11. Yes that one is for you al qaeda.

https://p.twimg.com/AuzDFHBCMAAwFr8.jpg:large

https://twitter.com/#!/WTCProgress



Wow! the two corner columns are almost touching themselves to make the vertex that will mark the top off of this building.

Okay, so I see this question alot yet no one EVER has answered it- When the building tops out, will there be more work on the glass and will it rise up faster? thanks

Okay, so I see this question alot yet no one EVER has answered it- When the building tops out, will there be more work on the glass and will it rise up faster? thanks

I doubt that the topping out will affect the speed of the glass.
They still have to do concrete and fireprofing on the new floors and the ones covered by the tarp.
So Probably not.

I can't wait to see Otie's new 1wtc diagram. We really need one. And also, what are they going to do with the openings on the bottom of the tower where the cladding should be?

I can't wait to see Otie's new 1wtc diagram. We really need one. And also, what are they going to do with the openings on the bottom of the tower where the cladding should be?

By "bottoms" I'll assume you mean the 20th floor? They have openings because they will be installing base glass starting in October.

I doubt that the topping out will affect the speed of the glass.
They still have to do concrete and fireprofing on the new floors and the ones covered by the tarp.
So Probably not.

Well when you think about it, the steel workers are going to be done pretty soon so who knows, maybe they will go help with glass, & maybe even start at the top & work their way down to the current glass. You never know so I'm gonna actually wait, and just see what happens to answer this question, I should've realized that no one truly knows this answer which is probably why it is unasked. Thanks for the response though Chris

Iron worker's wont install the glass, and most of the time they don't gun (tighten) the building up until the concrete is poured. There is still a ton of welding to do (which the iron workers do)

Also did anyone notice the perimeter steel erection is following how the base went? There is smaller steel then a few feet out to the base is the larger curtain steel?

Also did anyone notice the perimeter steel erection is following how the base went? There is smaller steel then a few feet out to the base is the larger curtain steel?

I'd forgotten that, thanks for reminding us. Here's a picture,

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2789/4158585440_a02360c19e_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/morrongiello/4158585440/)
WTC Site 20091204- Northwest (http://www.flickr.com/photos/morrongiello/4158585440/) by morrongiello (http://www.flickr.com/people/morrongiello/), on Flickr

Well when you think about it, the steel workers are going to be done pretty soon so who knows, maybe they will go help with glass, & maybe even start at the top & work their way down to the current glass. You never know so I'm gonna actually wait, and just see what happens to answer this question, I should've realized that no one truly knows this answer which is probably why it is unasked. Thanks for the response though Chris

No, each curtain wall panel fits within the lower one, so enclosing from top to bottom is technically impossible. They'll most likely enclose one floor per week (maximum speed), they can't go faster due to the other projects going on top (fireproofing, core slabs and stairs, shear walls, concrete on deck and metal deck). All of these projects follow a 1 floor per week cycle.

Well when you think about it, the steel workers are going to be done pretty soon so who knows, maybe they will go help with glass, & maybe even start at the top & work their way down to the current glass. You never know so I'm gonna actually wait, and just see what happens to answer this question, I should've realized that no one truly knows this answer which is probably why it is unasked. Thanks for the response though Chris

curtain wall is 580 work (ornamental ironworkers)
red iron erection is 40/361 (structural ironworkers)

Wow! the two corner columns are almost touching themselves to make the vertex that will mark the top off of this building.

probably the last column splice before they build in the upper roof area.

I guess it'll top out in about a week or 2 :D

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1 World Trade Center (http://www.flickr.com/photos/vinschiano/7165048999/) by Vin Schiano (http://www.flickr.com/people/vinschiano/), on Flickr

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1 World Trade Center (http://www.flickr.com/photos/vinschiano/7350256914/) by Vin Schiano (http://www.flickr.com/people/vinschiano/), on Flickr

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1 World Trade Center (http://www.flickr.com/photos/vinschiano/7350258366/) by Vin Schiano (http://www.flickr.com/people/vinschiano/), on Flickr

If you notice reading news articles of lately about 1wtc their stating that 1 wtc being 1776 feet tall,and being the tallest in the country wondering if this is signs of good news regarding the spire. http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/10/realestate/thieves-of-light-built-by-barbarians.html

Is the parapet or the roof being constructed now?

A new row of glass.

IT IS CONFIRMED! The final hieght WILL BE 1,776

"Durst plans to add an installation for FM radio and television antennas in the building’s 408-foot spire, which will ultimately bring the new building’s height to 1,776 feet, making it the tallest building in North America."

Here is a link to the full article about the spire.
http://www.radioworld.com/article/developer-plans-broadcast-spire-for--wtc-in-new-york/213795

^^ It´s either outdated info being used in that article (they also used an ancient render) or Durst changed his plans.

Is the parapet or the roof being constructed now?

The roof.

^^ The article was published on June 6th of this year, so I'd say it's correct. :D :cheers:

^^ It´s either outdated info being used in that article (they also used an ancient render) or Durst changed his plans.

Guys, just because an article says 1776 ft doesn't mean that it is. Until the CTBUH says it is 1776, or the NYT says CTBUH counts antennae... etc.. it is undecided. You all are starting to sound so naive. The only way this antennae gets counted with its current height is if the CTBUH makes an exception, which would mean that every other building in the world gets cheated..

But 1 WTC will always have the highest pinnacle height which is just as important as the so called architecture height the CTBUH uses. Even the CTBUH acknowledges multiple measurements as equals.

An article from some unknown like the link you mentioned is nothing, this is a big enough issue that whenever something happens, the times, and CTBUH will have an article on it.

News articles get the heights of skyscrapers wrong all the time. That certainly doesn't confirm anything.

It's also been noted on this and other forums that the 1,776 figure is incorrect due to the starting elevaton point. It's either going to be ~1,375 or ~1,780+.

News articles get the heights of skyscrapers wrong all the time. That certainly doesn't confirm anything.

Absolutely correct!

1776 is simply the advertisement for this building.

Also, I think it's safe to say that we know more about this building than the news ;)

1 wtc true pinnacle height will either be between 1,787 to 1,792 feet tall.

New row of glass! Even though the one before itsn't even completed yet! So glass is 982 feet high :)

1 wtc true pinnacle height will either be between 1,787 to 1,792 feet tall.

It'll be just 2'4" (~0.71m) shy of the 1800' mark.

NEW STEEL! (core)

Some steel was added just now !

Some steel was added just now !

That's what I said! I heard it's for the parapet :D

they're really pushing to top this out. I'm guessing late next week at the earliest.

Here is a cool picture i just put together, Its a 1 week comparision of the construction. On the left its the WTC from June 1, on the left is from today, June 8.
http://i.imgur.com/S5rZn.png

^^i don't see a picture ;D

^^i don't see a picture ;D
Lol i just added it :p

They put glass very fast:)

they're really pushing to top this out. I'm guessing late next week at the earliest.

The topping-out beams are scheduled to be put up on Flag Day, or July, 14th, but I hope they can get them up quicker

Here is an even bigger comparison. This is one month (Sorta...) May 10, 2012 and June 8, 2012.
http://i.imgur.com/SXP8L.png
They added 6 rows of glass in that span, so at that rate they will complete the glass in 3 months, so you can expect the tower to have the glass complete (Except lobby) by Late August - Early September.

Lol i just added it :p

Damn I didn't realize how much glass they've added in one week!

@OTIE do you still make your wtc diagrams that compare it to the ESB and other buildings?

Chibears85, thank you for comparisons.

Chibears85, thank you for comparisons.
Your welcome, Im trying to do a 1 year comparason shorty, but first i want to note something.

They added 6 rows of glass in one month, but now 3 rows of glass in only 1 week! So that may mean that they are speeding things up alot, and will get up to 10 rows of glass by july! And i think they only need like 20 more floors with glass.. So I would say the glass will be complete (Again excluding lobby) by August.

The topping-out beams are scheduled to be put up on Flag Day, or July, 14th, but I hope they can get them up quicker

...surely it won't take that long??!

...surely it won't take that long??!

I really don't know, that's what a few other people said a while back

...surely it won't take that long??!

And where are his sources for that information? He probably got it from the Obama visiting the World Trade Center Site and how it said there is a preview of the topping out ceremony but not the actual topping out.....

I really don't know, that's what a few other people said a while back

It will most definetely not take until July to erect the topping out columns don't worry lol, they are scheduled to go up in the next week, we are looking at topping out in the next 7-10 days, probably a few extra but regardless we will be topped out this month.

Oh I ment june 14th sorry, didn't notice that. :nuts:

FROM: NYBOY75

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRg_kwwqZhY&feature=youtu.be

So just to clarify, when might the official topping out ceremony happen? Seems like the PA would want to let the media know, because it will be a pretty big deal...Will it be on June 14, at the Obama visit? But I thought topping out meant the parapet, rather than the top of the steel? Don't see how they could get the parapet up in only a week? Unless they mean the topping out will be when the parapet's first beam is installed?

^^ Well, they celebrated the WTC becoming taller than the ESB with just one column... so who really knows? :|

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v630/kiko2/P1000595.jpg


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v630/kiko2/P1000596.jpg

Official topping out beam is scheduled to be erected on June 14th... because of Flag day & Obama's visit.

^^ Thank you for the info :cheers:

June 8th, 2012

(From the Far Rockaways, maybe about 15 miles away?)

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Official topping out beam is scheduled to be erected on June 14th... because of Flag day & Obama's visit.

That's not true, you probably got that "official" from SSP. They are only beginning the first beam if the parapet on Flag Day hence why the said Obama will be there for the *preview* of topping out. Topping out is when the last beam of steel is put into place.

I took this today at the corner of Broome st. and 6th ave

http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa53/patrickbnyc/IMG20120608_001.jpg

Lau, are these pics taken from the G or F train around the 4th ave stop and smith-9th street stop? I see this same view on the way to work into manhattan. I can especially tell its the same because of the kentile sign.

The ironworkers on top (my husband included) were told an 'official topping out ceremony will take place on June 14th'...they've been working 10hr days and are working both days this weekend.

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1 WTC | Diagram Update | June 9th, 2012 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/62018165@N04/7353421608/) by Otie O'Daniel (http://www.flickr.com/people/62018165@N04/), on Flickr | Larger version (http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/179/1wtc080612.png)

Here is a cool picture i just put together, Its a 1 week comparision of the construction. On the left its the WTC from June 1, on the left is from today, June 8.

IMG

Cool pic. Quite a bit of progress in just one week.

http://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/infocus/shuttle060712/s_s07_06120935.jpg

http://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/infocus/shuttle060712/s_s06_RTR33733.jpg

(AP Photo/NASA, Bill Ingalls)

Wait, so is it 430 meters to the top of the ring, or 417 ?

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1 WTC | Diagram Update | June 9th, 2012 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/62018165@N04/7353421608/) by Otie O'Daniel (http://www.flickr.com/people/62018165@N04/), on Flickr | Larger version (http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/179/1wtc080612.png)
Otie thank you very much for your diagram. Your diagrams of WTC are really the best.

^ Is that an official logo for One WTC, Otie? Is there even one?

^ Is that an official logo for One WTC, Otie? Is there even one?

yeah it is the 1wtc logo.


could anyone tell what these wooden platforms on the base are for?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/68756451@N02/7169014187/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/68756451@N02/7169014187/

According on Otie's diagram, the tower is only 1313 feet tall? I thought it was 1339 feet tall to the splices.

Will you be able to get onto the roof of 1WTC like you were from the original WTC? Also will there be a restaurant again?

^^
1.No
2.Maybe

According on Otie's diagram, the tower is only 1313 feet tall? I thought it was 1339 feet tall to the splices.

It is, i think he may have forgotten to do that because the diagram isn't right.

According on Otie's diagram, the tower is only 1313 feet tall? I thought it was 1339 feet tall to the splices.

I know, I'm pretty confused as well. People are saying we are at the 105th floor but I thought the columns erected were for 103M and 104. I guess we'll wait and see what the actual height is once the next perimeter steel is erected. People say the Tower will top out this Thursday but I somehow doubt that too because the weather could be an issue.

Will you be able to get onto the roof of 1WTC like you were from the original WTC? Also will there be a restaurant again?

There will likely be a fast-casual restaurant as part of the observation deck. It's a lot less likely there will be a full service restaurant.

FROM: NYBOY75

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkGsNOtQmNQ&feature=youtu.be

I can't remember what all the proposed restaurants were, but one of them was a Shake Shack, correct?

That would be really cool and delicious, but wouldn't come close at all to the Windows of the World.

My WTC pictures from yesterday...

From Lower Manhattan

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7214/7353044586_4e0919d0de_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/42178139@N06/7353044586/)
DSCN5248 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/42178139@N06/7353044586/) by Nexis4Jersey09 (http://www.flickr.com/people/42178139@N06/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7244/7167833619_c9d7540ec9_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/42178139@N06/7167833619/)
DSCN5250 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/42178139@N06/7167833619/) by Nexis4Jersey09 (http://www.flickr.com/people/42178139@N06/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7077/7353044854_b7e1fe4a1b_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/42178139@N06/7353044854/)
DSCN5251 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/42178139@N06/7353044854/) by Nexis4Jersey09 (http://www.flickr.com/people/42178139@N06/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7241/7167833929_eec7a2c027_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/42178139@N06/7167833929/)
DSCN5253 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/42178139@N06/7167833929/) by Nexis4Jersey09 (http://www.flickr.com/people/42178139@N06/), on Flickr

From Newark

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7075/7353046226_989a72706b_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/42178139@N06/7353046226/)
DSCN5265 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/42178139@N06/7353046226/) by Nexis4Jersey09 (http://www.flickr.com/people/42178139@N06/), on Flickr

From Harrison

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7232/7353051250_a3fb38194a_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/42178139@N06/7353051250/)
DSCN5314 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/42178139@N06/7353051250/) by Nexis4Jersey09 (http://www.flickr.com/people/42178139@N06/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7237/7167840085_3057fddfc4_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/42178139@N06/7167840085/)
DSCN5313 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/42178139@N06/7167840085/) by Nexis4Jersey09 (http://www.flickr.com/people/42178139@N06/), on Flickr

This time lapse video is not exactly on topic (although it features segments of One world trade center both during the day and night) but it simply so beautiful and so magestic that I believe everyone should see it.

Enjoy and again sorry if this is not so ontopic, but it is just beautiful

Manhattan Project:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gf4pXYXAZiE

Will the antenna/spire still have the ability to shine a ray of light out?

Will the antenna/spire still have the ability to shine a ray of light out?

Currently yes.

It is, i think he may have forgotten to do that because the diagram isn't right.

You have no proof, and neither does he, so why don't we all shut up? Honestly I hope Otie's right because that means the tower will look even taller than it is now

Actually I do have "proof", though can't disclose the source.

So exactly how tall is the tower as of today?

~1,318' (~401.7m) with some core columns extending underside 104M (don't know the elevation of that mezzanine)

*Add 5'-8" (~1.72m) to the figure if you want to start measuring from the lowest, open-air, pedestrian entrance instead of the main lobby floor (Finished Main Ground Floor Level).

Actually I do have "proof", though can't disclose the source.

Yea I should've said you are more reliable but I wanted it to sound even. So on the bright side, it's gonna look taller than it is

This building is going have many "top outs". Roof, parapet, spire/antenna...:nuts:

This building has 2 jumps left?

Yea and this makes alot of sense as to why the corner nodes are not touching yet

I can't remember what all the proposed restaurants were, but one of them was a Shake Shack, correct?

That would be really cool and delicious, but wouldn't come close at all to the Windows of the World.

The restaurants or food provided isn't really being selected yet - it's just the food service providers at the moment. Aramark, Legends (Yankee Stadium), Malkin (Empire State Building), and a few others are in the running with Danny Meyer. Shake Shack is the obvious choice if Meyer wins the contract but a Blue Smoke would be pretty nice too.

I took this last night, kinda hazy but the building sparkled in the distance so majestically 30 miles away

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7072/7354950022_0a91dae05b_b.jpg

I know, I'm pretty confused as well. People are saying we are at the 105th floor but I thought the columns erected were for 103M and 104. I guess we'll wait and see what the actual height is once the next perimeter steel is erected. People say the Tower will top out this Thursday but I somehow doubt that too because the weather could be an issue.

You have no proof, and neither does he, so why don't we all shut up? Honestly I hope Otie's right because that means the tower will look even taller than it is now

Ok, calm youself it's not a big deal. Either way we will be topped out by months end no doubt.

Actually I do have "proof", though can't disclose the source.

Wait so is it going to be taller then we originally thought ? I am just tuning in, so maybe I missed something...

Does anyone know will freedom tower have observation platform on the last floor or something like this?

I have some doubts, will the building have a Spire? If so, how tall will it be? , also, how tall is the building right now?, and how tall will it be when topped out? Thanks!

Wait so is it going to be taller then we originally thought ? I am just tuning in, so maybe I missed something...

Nope, everyone's saying it's at floor 105 when it's NOT. Listen to Otie, he knows. It also makes sense because the corner nodes are not touching yet. So I think we're at either 103M-104 or 104-104M. So basically it's a good thing because it will look taller than it does now :)

I have some doubts, will the building have a Spire? If so, how tall will it be? , also, how tall is the building right now?, and how tall will it be when topped out? Thanks!

It will have an antennae. it is 402m currently i believe, it will be 419 meters/1374 feet, and will have a pinnacle of 1792 feet

Nope, everyone's saying it's at floor 105 when it's NOT. Listen to Otie, he knows. It also makes sense because the corner nodes are not touching yet. So I think we're at either 103M-104 or 104-104M. So basically it's a good thing because it will look taller than it does now :)

That's good news.

Taken by me yesterday:

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7236/7169597315_59a6f49c98_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/8379824@N07/7169597315/)
Lower Manhattan Panorama II (http://www.flickr.com/photos/8379824@N07/7169597315/) by beanhead4529 (http://www.flickr.com/people/8379824@N07/), on Flickr


http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7097/7169596067_65ac5378ac_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/8379824@N07/7169596067/)
The Districts (http://www.flickr.com/photos/8379824@N07/7169596067/) by beanhead4529 (http://www.flickr.com/people/8379824@N07/), on Flickr

It will have an antennae. it is 402m currently i believe, it will be 419 meters/1374 feet, and will have a pinnacle of 1792 feet

Those are great numbers...

Does anyone know will freedom tower have observation platform on the last floor or something like this?

It will have an observation area, but I think floors 100-102 are dedicated to that, and it will be at around the 380 meter mark

I have some doubts, will the building have a Spire? If so, how tall will it be? , also, how tall is the building right now?, and how tall will it be when topped out? Thanks!

Ok, Durst removed the radome that would enclose the antenna. So the building will have an antenna, that may be considered a spire.
The spire will be 408 feet tall, and the height of the building is kinda unknown.

Taken by me yesterday:

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7236/7169597315_59a6f49c98_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/8379824@N07/7169597315/)
Lower Manhattan Panorama II (http://www.flickr.com/photos/8379824@N07/7169597315/) by beanhead4529 (http://www.flickr.com/people/8379824@N07/), on Flickr


http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7097/7169596067_65ac5378ac_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/8379824@N07/7169596067/)
The Districts (http://www.flickr.com/photos/8379824@N07/7169596067/) by beanhead4529 (http://www.flickr.com/people/8379824@N07/), on Flickr
awesome pics, imagine when the gap is filled with Tower 2 and 3?

It will have an observation area, but I think floors 100-102 are dedicated to that, and it will be at around the 380 meter mark

But as i know twin towers had observation area on the roof. Why 1WTC will not have it?

But as i know twin towers had observation area on the roof. Why 1WTC will not have it?

Because there is equipment on the roof. Not having a rooftop observation area, has always been the biggest loss for me with this tower.

But as i know twin towers had observation area on the roof. Why 1WTC will not have it?

One World Trade Center won't have an observation area on the roof because the communication ring and antenna will be up at the top.
If the Original North Tower didn't have a twin, there would be no observation deck at the top either

Taken by me yesterday:


http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7097/7169596067_65ac5378ac_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/8379824@N07/7169596067/)
The Districts (http://www.flickr.com/photos/8379824@N07/7169596067/) by beanhead4529 (http://www.flickr.com/people/8379824@N07/), on Flickr

I don't like to quote a picture but this one deserves it. May I ask, where is this area?

Took this yesterday, ironically the 9/11 memorial is right beneath it

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7072/7354950022_0a91dae05b_b.jpg

I don't like to quote a picture but this one deserves it. May I ask, where is this area?


Must be taken at Liberty State Park..
by judging the views from streetview it must be awesome to look at Manhattan's skyline!

http://img5.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/deddddt0jf49kgw1.png (http://www.fotos-hochladen.net)

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http://www.flickr.com/photos/vinbba/7167976527/

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7226/7161457723_9e522a3d72_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/nobbiusa/7161457723/

Amazing second picture Mike. The ESB, BofA, and soon to be finished 1 WTC are certainly three of the best skyscrapers in the city.

Must be taken at Liberty State Park..
by judging the views from streetview it must be awesome to look at Manhattan's skyline!


The best places to view the skyline are free and open to the public for sure.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7226/7161457723_9e522a3d72_b.jpg


So fabulous, though I couldn't get used to Bank of America Tower being in front of Empire State.

Must be taken at Liberty State Park..
by judging the views from streetview it must be awesome to look at Manhattan's skyline!


Gonna have to take a visit there myself one of these days. Awesome views from that location.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8005/7167976527_f721de9d3c_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/vinbba/7167976527/

Those clouds on the left almost look like an outline of a tower.

The ESB, BofA, and soon to be finished 1 WTC are certainly three of the best skyscrapers in the city.

They are some of the best skyscrapers in the world. 1WTC will look whopper when it is complete and the three buildings will look savage.

FROM: NYBOY75

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxNjQAUosCs&list=UUhtU7A62TdyRVQm8CsdVwBw&index=1&feature=plcp

I have more longer videos I will Post later as I have to, upload them, hope you like. This is a short part 1 followed by 2 more vids.

FROM: NYBOY75

PART 2 OF THE BROOKLYN BRIDGE PARK TOUR.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3V1bNYrcOg&feature=youtu.be

more photos from 30 miles out, pretty far~Morristown, New Jersey

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7224/7358364512_0ec887278b_b.jpg

4 World Trade Center is unusually bright

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8011/7354936412_6a00c025bd_b.jpg

FROM: NYBOY75

Part 3 hope you like!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXnpCIzl0Uw&feature=youtu.be

One World Trade Center won't have an observation area on the roof because the communication ring and antenna will be up at the top.
If the Original North Tower didn't have a twin, there would be no observation deck at the top either

True I may be mistaken but is the microwave radiation emitted by the communications ring dangerous to humans? On a side note if 1WTC were given the opportunity to rise an extra 100ft it would surpass the Willis Tower as tallest in the US by roof. But as it stands now its the tallest in pinnacle height. :)

True and also the microwave radiation is dangerous to humans.

Haha very true. The developer behind the Miglin Beitler proposal in Chicago actually said that they had to test radiation samples because of the Sears antennae's, and that putting a tower too close to the Sears with a height of 400m+ would create a radiation vacuum, or something of that sort, and would cause massive radiation problems. So the moral of the story is, antennae's cause health problems and will give you radiation poisoning :lol:

Lovely pictures!

As I've said before. You can't raise the height of tower one.
The Foundations have been set to handle a certain weight. Adding more floors could be dangerous and result in collaspe.
Modern Marvels did a piece about that.
Secondly,the building tapers as it goes up, as in recent photos, the triangles will touch. You couldn't add another 100 feet.

^^ He's saying IF, not actually pursuing the idea. Obviously they can't and won't do that.....

Adding more floors could be dangerous and result in collaspe.

Im not waiting another 6 years for construction :bash:

Im not waiting another 6 years for construction :bash:

No kidding. I don't even care about the antenna or the base or the plaza at this point. I just want this tower finished.

True I may be mistaken but is the microwave radiation emitted by the communications ring dangerous to humans? On a side note if 1WTC were given the opportunity to rise an extra 100ft it would surpass the Willis Tower as tallest in the US by roof. But as it stands now its the tallest in pinnacle height. :)

This building, was meant to equal the height of the original twins of the WTC, and not the Willis Tower in Chicago. The height of the roof is where it is, and the spire or antenna at this point has no relevance whatsoever.

This building, was meant to equal the height of the original twins of the WTC, and not the Willis Tower in Chicago. The height of the roof is where it is, and the spire or antenna at this point has no relevance whatsoever.
I thought that 2WTC was gonna be the same excat height of the original WTC and that 1WTC would represent our freedom by being the tallest in the USA (Correct me if im wrong here)

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2,000 days have passed since the first steel beam was put in place. ;)

2,000 days have passed since the first steel beam was put in place. ;)
Wow! Are you serious? Seems like it wasnt to long ago when that happend.

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This building, was meant to equal the height of the original twins of the WTC, and not the Willis Tower in Chicago. The height of the roof is where it is, and the spire or antenna at this point has no relevance whatsoever.

Exactly, I wish people would just be happy with this. It restores the skyline, and will make downtown Manhattan look incredible. Who cares if it isn't America's tallest, it is as tall as the original tower, that we lost 11 years ago, and that is what matters for me.

i love this building and im glad they redesigned it from the first one.. now i hope they do the same for the hudson yard buildings:):)

Building foundations handling the certaing weight they were calculated for is dangerous, foundations are always meant to handle more weight than they will eventually do. Is some sort of a safety range.

Adding a couple floors is plaussible.

Adding a couple floors is plaussible.

Not at all plausible, as it would destroy the visual continuity of the building. Intersecting triangles. Kinda set in stone.

Why are so many people here so obsessed with height and so utterly unconcerned with architecture?

Architect: "I just designed this beautiful 250m tower!" :laugh:

Skyscrapercity Poster: "ZOMG MAKE IT 450m!!!!" :crazy2:

Architect: headdesk :wallbash:

Not at all plausible, as it would destroy the visual continuity of the building. Intersecting triangles. Kinda set in stone.

Why are so many people here so obsessed with height and so utterly unconcerned with architecture?

Architect: "I just designed this beautiful 250m tower!" :laugh:

Skyscrapercity Poster: "ZOMG MAKE IT 450m!!!!" :crazy2:

Architect: headdesk :wallbash:

True

Not at all plausible, as it would destroy the visual continuity of the building. Intersecting triangles. Kinda set in stone.

Why are so many people here so obsessed with height and so utterly unconcerned with architecture?

Architect: "I just designed this beautiful 250m tower!" :laugh:

Skyscrapercity Poster: "ZOMG MAKE IT 450m!!!!" :crazy2:

Architect: headdesk :wallbash:

I never said it was the best way to do it but the physics allow it. Only wanted to clarify something discussed some posts above.

But yes, some people are quite obssesed with height. Not my case.:okay:

2,000 days have passed since the first steel beam was put in place. ;)

...you're talking about the first one that is part of the foundation, now underground, right?

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One of the rare angles where I don't like 1WTC. It looks kind of weird and fat...

One of the rare angles where I don't like 1WTC. It looks kind of weird and fat...

Oh yes, it is too fat:(

Seems like a lot of thoughts have gone into the design of this building and the features around it. I really like the water feature. Someday I will come to NY to see for myself.

I never said it was the best way to do it but the physics allow it. Only wanted to clarify something discussed some posts above.

But yes, some people are quite obssesed with height. Not my case.:okay:

Sorry for jumping on you, my mistake! I see so many height obsessed people here I've started raging with little provocation! :lol:

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Building foundations handling the certaing weight they were calculated for is dangerous, foundations are always meant to handle more weight than they will eventually do. Is some sort of a safety range.

Adding a couple floors is plaussible.

You Can Not Add more floors. The Building tapers. Do you see the triangles that are almost touching?
Please Think.

Check out Earthcam tower 1 right now! I'll try to capture a picture!

This building, was meant to equal the height of the original twins of the WTC, and not the Willis Tower in Chicago. The height of the roof is where it is, and the spire or antenna at this point has no relevance whatsoever.

The idea of 1 wtc actually was to signified both aspects but, as for me and i am pretty sure other new yorkers out there would love the idea of taking the title of nations tallest form Chicago and bringing it back here to new york.

Sorry if im just causing an argument here, but wasnt 2WTC suppose to be the exact height of the original WTC, and 1WTC was suppose to be the biggest in america to show our freedom? I swear i heard that from somewhere before.

Here is a 11 day comparison.
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There are more than 3 urban areas in New York, not only Manhattan, I can see.

I may be wrong but from that perspective isn't the "third skyline" just jersey side facing lower Manhattan?

Oh it looks so beautiful lit up!

beautiful

I may be wrong but from that perspective isn't the "third skyline" just jersey side facing lower Manhattan?

Yup. Jersey City on the right.

The idea of 1 wtc actually was to signified both aspects but, as for me and i am pretty sure other new yorkers out there would love the idea of taking the title of nations tallest form Chicago and bringing it back here to new york.

I am sure Chicagoans would willingly give it once NYC has a building with a roof height of 443m+ :cheers:

Sorry if im just causing an argument here, but wasnt 2WTC suppose to be the exact height of the original WTC, and 1WTC was suppose to be the biggest in america to show our freedom? I swear i heard that from somewhere before.

the tip of 2 WTC is supposed to be with in a couple feet or so of the roof height of 1 WTC..........not sure if i ever heard what you are saying about 2 WTC being as high as the originals

Is the roof height of this 1WTC higher or lower then the original one's roof?

the tip of 2 WTC is supposed to be with in a couple feet or so of the roof height of 1 WTC..........not sure if i ever heard what you are saying about 2 WTC being as high as the originals
Here is a comparison. 1WTC is taller by far then the original WTC and 2WTC is very close to the original height.
http://i.imgur.com/3Nlea.png

Is the roof height of this 1WTC higher or lower then the original one's roof?
It is higher then the original.

Is the roof height of this 1WTC higher or lower then the original one's roof?

its the same height. but the spire makes it 541 meters tall :)

It is higher then the original.

I cant wait to see it complete. The original were very dominant and I would love to see the whole complex dominate the skyline again. I just hope the other towers can get a move on and rise so they can complement this beauty that is 1WTC.

its the same height. but the spire makes it 541 meters tall :)

Cheers. It will look great no matter what height.

It doesn't look weird and fat there at all. Why must you nitpick?

In general, it's a very fine and elegant looking building. It's just that particular angle which doesn't suit me.

In general, it's a very fine and elegant looking building. It's just that particular angle which doesn't suit me.

I agree. The corners make it look a bit disproportional.