View Full Version : NEW YORK | One World Trade Center (1WTC) | 541m | 1776ft | 104 fl | T/O



Arawooho
July 15th, 2012, 02:46 AM
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-juAr20VDyZ4/UAISXaS9GSI/AAAAAAAAATo/KV8-_4tSzAI/s512/CAM00312.jpg

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-VgCid-L_dlc/UAISZp74ViI/AAAAAAAAATw/tiRuGTmBHXw/s640/CAM00310.jpg
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-wUuTfaMofaw/UAISeTrYHsI/AAAAAAAAAUI/MTMRPfFEhSo/s512/CAM00309.jpg

L.A.F.2.
July 15th, 2012, 03:34 AM
^^ Well as long as the spire isn't brown, I'm fine with it. I would prefer a white or silver spire, with pale blue accents being acceptible.

1Filipe1
July 15th, 2012, 03:36 AM
^^ Well as long as the spire isn't brown, I'm fine with it. I would prefer a white or silver spire, with pale blue accents being acceptible.
same..brown doesnt look right

desertpunk
July 15th, 2012, 08:20 AM
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7219/7170742665_404ed2e6cb_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/yogesharora/7170742665/)
Golden hour at Brooklyn Bridge [Explored] (http://www.flickr.com/photos/yogesharora/7170742665/) by Yogi.Arora (http://www.flickr.com/people/yogesharora/), on Flickr

Old Salt
July 15th, 2012, 08:57 AM
Looked like the twin towers there at first glance.

philip
July 15th, 2012, 10:21 AM
Looked like the twin towers there at first glance.

OMG, that's what I thought too !

nipz
July 15th, 2012, 01:01 PM
i think it's good place for more supertalls 400+

Eric Offereins
July 15th, 2012, 01:15 PM
Fortunately no injuries were reported. Pier 17 was due to be replaced next year.

http://www.nypost.com/rw/nypost/2012/07/14/news/web_photos/seaport182729.jpg

That is definitely a hotspot. ;) :lol:

Kanto
July 15th, 2012, 01:15 PM
http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/7906/millerhare1wtc05.png

One of my wallpapers :drool:

Eric Offereins
July 15th, 2012, 01:21 PM
^^ That is a good one, but why are tower 2 and 3 not in this render?

deadhead262
July 15th, 2012, 01:33 PM
^^Damn, How did they manage to light pier 17 on fire?

Fan Railer
July 15th, 2012, 01:39 PM
dang, I always miss crap like this when it happens. And I'm always in California when it does =_=.... 9/11, now Pier 17?

One WTC is coming along nicely though I see :)

Kanto
July 15th, 2012, 02:55 PM
^^ That is a good one, but why are tower 2 and 3 not in this render?

Because at the time when that render was created towers 2 and 3 were planned to be on-hold. Now only 2 will be definitely on-hold. The fate of 3WTC is unsure and in the rumors :cheers:

RobertWalpole
July 15th, 2012, 03:51 PM
I highly doubt that T3 will start any time within the next two to three years.

Skyrobot
July 15th, 2012, 04:22 PM
New to this thread and I like the angles on the tower! It looks so solid and strong. This is the American spirit I know.

NYBOY1975
July 15th, 2012, 04:24 PM
FROM: NYBOY75

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHEpcOEE7k0&feature=youtu.be

Have a great Sunday everyone!

マイルズ
July 15th, 2012, 06:29 PM
I highly doubt that T3 will start any time within the next two to three years.

The base of tower 3 has already started, but i'm not sure of the tower.

Old Salt
July 15th, 2012, 06:37 PM
The base of tower 3 has already started, but i'm not sure of the tower.

Their capping it for now at something like nine stories. I would think though that within the next few years they will start making progress on T2 and T3. This site is not just any construction site, it a national one. They are going to want to complete it as soon as possible. And with supertalls now looking to be popping up all over the city, it will be hard to explain why WTC should remain stagnant.

chris123678
July 15th, 2012, 06:56 PM
Tower 3 is either going to be capped bewteen 7 to 20 stories or continue. No one knows. Based on the news that 27 thousand tons, it probably will be built.

erbse
July 15th, 2012, 07:04 PM
Fortunately no injuries were reported. Pier 17 was due to be replaced next year.

http://www.nypost.com/rw/nypost/2012/07/14/news/web_photos/seaport182729.jpg
Damn, what a pity! Such a nice historical pier. :(

By what did they intend to replace it? No modernist crap but a faithful reconstruction, hopefully... :|

aquablue
July 15th, 2012, 07:35 PM
Damn, what a pity! Such a nice historical pier. :(

By what did they intend to replace it? No modernist crap but a faithful reconstruction, hopefully... :|

Why are you so against modernism? This old pier design is a tacky replica of an old pier and contains a trashy mall for tourists. Sorry for you, but the new pier shopping center will be a purely modernist structure of glass and steel.

RandomNameTag
July 15th, 2012, 08:04 PM
Why are you so against modernism? This old pier design is a tacky replica of an old pier and contains a trashy mall for tourists. Sorry for you, but the new pier shopping center will be a purely modernist structure of glass and steel.

Agreed. It's like he works for UNESCO or something. If anything built before 1950 gets torn down, he's always making a fuss.

sbarn
July 15th, 2012, 09:03 PM
Damn, what a pity! Such a nice historical pier. :(

By what did they intend to replace it? No modernist crap but a faithful reconstruction, hopefully... :|

That pier isn't historic, it was built in the 1980s.

CrazyAboutCities
July 15th, 2012, 09:13 PM
Why do I have a feeling this developer who has big plan for that pier, set that pier on fire to save demolish cost or get insurance money? It looks fishy to me.

RobertWalpole
July 15th, 2012, 09:32 PM
New Amsterdam in 1664. We've made progress!

http://www.stoutenburgh.com/wp-content/gallery/illustrations/new-amsterdam-1664.jpg
http://www.stoutenburgh.com/

tim1807
July 15th, 2012, 10:23 PM
Indeed, that describes exactly what I just thought.

AnOldBlackMarble
July 15th, 2012, 10:36 PM
http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/7906/millerhare1wtc05.png

One of my wallpapers :drool:

I like the design I just wish there were two of them side by side. :(

Kanto
July 15th, 2012, 10:47 PM
I would like to update my diagram so at what height are we now? Is this new perimeter steel only for the 105th floor or is it for the parapet too? :dunno:

ThatOneGuy
July 15th, 2012, 11:19 PM
I doubt it's for the parapet. There would have been a topping ceremony if so.

GeoDude
July 15th, 2012, 11:23 PM
Fortunately no injuries were reported. Pier 17 was due to be replaced next year.

http://www.nypost.com/rw/nypost/2012/07/14/news/web_photos/seaport182729.jpg

Arson!!!!

OnePointWest
July 15th, 2012, 11:40 PM
I would like to update my diagram so at what height are we now? Is this new perimeter steel only for the 105th floor or is it for the parapet too? :dunno:

Floor 105+19',or halfway to the parapet.

spectre000
July 16th, 2012, 12:17 AM
I would like to update my diagram so at what height are we now? Is this new perimeter steel only for the 105th floor or is it for the parapet too? :dunno:

I believe it's for both the 105th floor and parapet. My guess is there about 1350 feet high right now. The 105th floor (really just the ceiling/roof for the building) is 1334 feet. The parapet is about 35 feet tall. I'm thinking they're about halfway up the parapet now. Just a guess though.

chris123678
July 16th, 2012, 12:39 AM
I would like to update my diagram so at what height are we now? Is this new perimeter steel only for the 105th floor or is it for the parapet too? :dunno:

Those columns are about 40feet.
So were about 1,353.
That's unconfirmed, just my early estimate.

L.A.F.2.
July 16th, 2012, 12:40 AM
^^ That's what I'm thinking as well.

desertpunk
July 16th, 2012, 02:11 AM
Damn, what a pity! Such a nice historical pier. :(

By what did they intend to replace it? No modernist crap but a faithful reconstruction, hopefully... :|

This is the plan: From SHoP Architects

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ZWyyNs0KYAA/T4xYjmJmgwI/AAAAAAAABkA/8BezPZdhBXI/s1600/pier-17-courtesy-SHoP-Architects.jpg

Arson!!!!

Faulty wiring has been blamed.

desertpunk
July 16th, 2012, 02:17 AM
Today:

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7120/7576882172_19915cf08e_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mikemcarlino/7576882172/)
One World Trade 2012 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mikemcarlino/7576882172/) by mike.m.carlino (http://www.flickr.com/people/mikemcarlino/), on Flickr

OnePointWest
July 16th, 2012, 02:46 AM
^The pics will never do justice to 1WTC height,especially the huge gap giving a sense of "small".

ThatOneGuy
July 16th, 2012, 03:25 AM
My trip to the WFC in 2010 (when 1 and 4 were not built) left me feeling speechless about the height of 7WTC, and I actually went later in the day and stood at its base, feeling absolutely dwarfed as I looked upwards. Even 1 liberty plaza stunned me. It just goes to show how massive and stunning 1WTC is. If you're as impressed with 7WTC as I was, 1WTC will be a total monster. Can't wait to visit it in August!

1Filipe1
July 16th, 2012, 03:28 AM
went there for the first time today..i was speachless..looked massive in person compared to a picture lol

OnePointWest
July 16th, 2012, 04:00 AM
My trip to the WFC in 2010 (when 1 and 4 were not built) left me feeling speechless about the height of 7WTC, and I actually went later in the day and stood at its base, feeling absolutely dwarfed as I looked upwards. Even 1 liberty plaza stunned me. It just goes to show how massive and stunning 1WTC is. If you're as impressed with 7WTC as I was, 1WTC will be a total monster. Can't wait to visit it in August!

I live and have always lived in Nashville,and when I go to downtown and stand beneath the AT&T(Batman building),it always puts me in awe.I can't imagine what a building almost 3 time the height will do to me(Batman building is 617').

Arawooho
July 16th, 2012, 04:10 AM
This is the plan: From SHoP Architects

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ZWyyNs0KYAA/T4xYjmJmgwI/AAAAAAAABkA/8BezPZdhBXI/s1600/pier-17-courtesy-SHoP-Architects.jpg





New one's much better than the old one we have now...

L.A.F.2.
July 16th, 2012, 04:16 AM
went there for the first time today..i was speachless..looked massive in person compared to a picture lol
I'm the exact same way. When I see a building in a picture, I think, "Wow! That's pretty big!" But when I go see the building in real life and stand at its base, I am speechless. The real thing is a whole different game! :cheers:

chris123678
July 16th, 2012, 04:45 AM
For some reason, I think it's that base that makes it seem shorter than what it is.

Anyways, more steel tommorow?

Old Salt
July 16th, 2012, 04:56 AM
When the glass is finished it will bring the full height of 1WTC into much better focus.

Mercenary
July 16th, 2012, 05:03 AM
For some reason, I think it's that base that makes it seem shorter than what it is.

Anyways, more steel tommorow?

Yeap hopefully. The perimeter columns steel should go up tomorrow and work on this floor should take about 2 or 3 weeks to finish before they can proceed to add the parapets.

That should occur in either the 1st or 2nd week of August. Hopefully topping out by August 13th and the concrete floor reaching the final floor by September 11, 2012. :cheers:

iloveclassicrock7
July 16th, 2012, 05:30 AM
Yeap hopefully. The perimeter columns steel should go up tomorrow and work on this floor should take about 2 or 3 weeks to finish before they can proceed to add the parapets.

That should occur in either the 1st or 2nd week of August. Hopefully topping out by August 13th and the concrete floor reaching the final floor by September 11, 2012. :cheers:

What is the chance of everything external(glass/antenna) being finished on Sept 11 ?

ThatOneGuy
July 16th, 2012, 05:46 AM
^^There's approximately a 9 out of 11 chance that will happen.

OnePointWest
July 16th, 2012, 06:02 AM
^Naw,the percentage should be around 0%.

BritneySpearsRocks93
July 16th, 2012, 08:20 AM
Yeap hopefully. The perimeter columns steel should go up tomorrow and work on this floor should take about 2 or 3 weeks to finish before they can proceed to add the parapets.

That should occur in either the 1st or 2nd week of August. Hopefully topping out by August 13th and the concrete floor reaching the final floor by September 11, 2012. :cheers:

There is no way it's going to take another month to top out. I'd say the end of this month the latest.

Semper_Fidelis
July 16th, 2012, 09:07 AM
how many floors are left? ;> Grettings from Poland :)!!

Kanto
July 16th, 2012, 11:15 AM
So I'll rather update my diagram once we'll top out. I don't wanna have inaccurate data in it :cheers:

Btw, as to how many floors remain. No big floor remains however the cooling towers still remain to be built :cheers:

Eric Offereins
July 16th, 2012, 12:46 PM
New one's much better than the old one we have now...

yes, that is a cool design. I like that roof terrace.

WTCNewYork
July 16th, 2012, 02:16 PM
There is no way it's going to take another month to top out. I'd say the end of this month the latest.

You'd think so.. I really hope you're right, but I'm not all convinced it's gonna happen. :nuts:

L.A.F.2.
July 16th, 2012, 03:40 PM
^^There's approximately a 9 out of 11 chance that will happen.

:lol: I about died when I read this! :lol:

chris123678
July 16th, 2012, 05:11 PM
Yeap hopefully. The perimeter columns steel should go up tomorrow and work on this floor should take about 2 or 3 weeks to finish before they can proceed to add the parapets.

That should occur in either the 1st or 2nd week of August. Hopefully topping out by August 13th and the concrete floor reaching the final floor by September 11, 2012. :cheers:


Your the same troll who said steel installation was to begin yesterday when it began last week. Your also the troll who edited wiki with that false rumor of 2300 days after construction. So Stop it.

Mercenary
July 16th, 2012, 05:16 PM
So I'll rather update my diagram once we'll top out. I don't wanna have inaccurate data in it :cheers:

Btw, as to how many floors remain. No big floor remains however the cooling towers still remain to be built :cheers:

I think 1 Floor to go and then the parapet. :cheers:

Mercenary
July 16th, 2012, 05:20 PM
There is no way it's going to take another month to top out. I'd say the end of this month the latest.

They were stuck on the 92nd floor for 2 months and now again on the 104th floor for almost a month.

So I assume they will take their sweet ass time to finish the last floor and the parapet.

I won't be surprised if they decide to top the building out on September 11, 2012. :nuts:

Kanto
July 16th, 2012, 05:45 PM
I think 1 Floor to go and then the parapet. :cheers:

Perimeter steel is already up for floor 105, so only the parapet remains now to be built :cheers:

BritneySpearsRocks93
July 16th, 2012, 06:43 PM
You'd think so.. I really hope you're right, but I'm not all convinced it's gonna happen. :nuts:

I mean, there is only this and the parapet left. This floor shouldn't take that long and the parapet shouldn't either. The end of this month is very realistic if they don't move at snails pace.

babybackribs2314
July 16th, 2012, 07:17 PM
You can't see the new steel from most angles, it was only two columns yesterday.

Better weather, great pictures, full update:

http://www.newyorkyimby.com/2012/07/construction-update-one-world-trade_16.html

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-YXr-DB5BrR0/UAPUHAnRntI/AAAAAAAACgU/PoWsXZaSkGk/s640/20120715_183529.jpg

Chibears85
July 16th, 2012, 10:33 PM
Picture of new steel:
http://www.earthcam.com/swf/cam_player/temp_images/1342470759260.jpg

billgates
July 16th, 2012, 10:53 PM
^^There's approximately a 9 out of 11 chance that will happen.

lol

Mercenary
July 16th, 2012, 10:57 PM
Picture of new steel:
http://www.earthcam.com/swf/cam_player/temp_images/1342470759260.jpg


Is the new steel those white columns?

It looks photoshopped for some reason

Chibears85
July 16th, 2012, 11:25 PM
Is the new steel those white columns?

It looks photoshopped for some reason
Yea it is those white columns, and nope, no photoshop :D You can go to the earthcam skyline view and zoom in to the WTC and it shows it.

njman
July 17th, 2012, 12:12 AM
From the Staten Island Ferry Earlier Today

http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/7473/img0280fe.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/259/img0280fe.jpg/)
http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/8148/img0289my.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/855/img0289my.jpg/)
http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/3827/img0283lr.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/407/img0283lr.jpg/)

OnePointWest
July 17th, 2012, 01:07 AM
Can't believe we still have 15-20' to go.

NewYorkSkyline117
July 17th, 2012, 02:18 AM
Yeap hopefully. The perimeter columns steel should go up tomorrow and work on this floor should take about 2 or 3 weeks to finish before they can proceed to add the parapets.

That should occur in either the 1st or 2nd week of August. Hopefully topping out by August 13th and the concrete floor reaching the final floor by September 11, 2012. :cheers:

You're profile picture is perfect for you, troll. Like he said, you're always editing wikipedia with false facts. You have no idea what you're talking about so quit it.

Mercenary
July 17th, 2012, 02:24 AM
Yea it is those white columns, and nope, no photoshop :D You can go to the earthcam skyline view and zoom in to the WTC and it shows it.

Yeah you are right. I saw other pics, they got those columns there too.

So the perimeter columns are rising finally for the last floor and after that the parapet. :cheers:

OnePointWest
July 17th, 2012, 02:31 AM
The steel that went up also accounts for about half of the parapet.

Otie
July 17th, 2012, 02:43 AM
^Finally something true is being posted. Can't believe we're having so many pages plagued with mis-information and false data.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8168/7576463264_36a1641653_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kyle_patrick/7576463264/)
Can't capture how big this building really is #nyc #wtc freedom tower (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kyle_patrick/7576463264/) by kylepatrick (http://www.flickr.com/people/kyle_patrick/), on Flickr

bbplyer12
July 17th, 2012, 02:56 AM
This picture really shows the height of 1WTC.

L.A.F.2.
July 17th, 2012, 03:13 AM
It looks like there are two steel beams of the parapet that have reached full height (Photo by njman):
http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/560968_464949720191198_2065272388_n.jpg

Mercenary
July 17th, 2012, 03:15 AM
It looks like there are two steel beams of the parapet that have reached full height (Photo by njman):
http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/560968_464949720191198_2065272388_n.jpg


Does that mean the building is topped out?

1Filipe1
July 17th, 2012, 03:19 AM
Does that mean the building is topped out?

theres only 2 beams up there.. there not done lol

L.A.F.2.
July 17th, 2012, 03:21 AM
^^ The height is now 1,368 feet, but to top out, all of the main beams for the parapet must be placed. The last one will be placed during a ceremony for its topping out. When it surpassed ESB on April 30, there were just two beams taller as well.

chris123678
July 17th, 2012, 03:45 AM
I think we're getting aheard of ourselves here, the columns put up were about 40 feet. That's unconfirmed.
So if that's true, we're not at 1,368. Those columns are no taller than 40feet. That's for sure.

L.A.F.2.
July 17th, 2012, 03:50 AM
^^ Exactly. The parapet is ~40 feet, and we've completed floor 105, so there is no way this couldn't be the top.

Fury
July 17th, 2012, 03:51 AM
Hi all.

The structure is topped out when it reaches its full height both structurally and architecturally.

It doesn't need to have all of the columns or beams that will be placed at that height to be topped out.

:cheers:

L.A.F.2.
July 17th, 2012, 03:53 AM
^^ It was the last major beam on 4WTC that officialy was the "topping out" on the building.

CNTower246810
July 17th, 2012, 03:59 AM
^^ Exactly. The parapet is ~40 feet, and we've completed floor 105, so there is no way this couldn't be the top.

Who said we had finished the 105th floor? Those are the same columns that were placed a few days ago.

chris123678
July 17th, 2012, 03:59 AM
^^ Exactly. The parapet is ~40 feet, and we've completed floor 105, so there is no way this couldn't be the top.

Yeah, but you said it was 1,368 in another post, I'm thinking it's not here, but close.

L.A.F.2.
July 17th, 2012, 04:04 AM
Well, floor 105 is definitely not 40 feet high, so for this to be floor 105 with 104 completely finished doesn't make sense. These are so much higher than the surrounding beams, it's the only thing plausible. Thus, floor 105 must be complete.

Mercenary
July 17th, 2012, 04:07 AM
^^ Exactly. The parapet is ~40 feet, and we've completed floor 105, so there is no way this couldn't be the top.

Ok so what you are saying is that these columns erected are only for the 105th floor.

Which means the building will only top out once all the iron and steel frame for the 105th floor is erected and all the parapet columns have been installed.

L.A.F.2.
July 17th, 2012, 04:10 AM
Ok so what you are saying is that these columns erected are only for the 105th floor.

Which means the building will only top out once all the iron and steel frame for the 105th floor is erected and all the parapet columns have been installed.

No, what I am saying that these are the first of the parapet that are completely done.
However, you are correct about the official T/O requirements.

Mercenary
July 17th, 2012, 04:15 AM
No, what I am saying that these are the first of the parapet that are completely done.
However, you are correct about the official T/O necessities.

Ok got it. Now it makes sense. :banana:

These perimeter columns are for two floors. The 105th floor and the parapet.

So unofficially, the steel columns have technically reached the highest point structurally of this building and thus making this building Topped out. :cheers:

But this building won't be considered topped out until all the steel columns are erected.

L.A.F.2.
July 17th, 2012, 04:17 AM
Now you got it. :okay:

OnePointWest
July 17th, 2012, 04:18 AM
Well, floor 105 is definitely not 40 feet high, so for this to be floor 105 with 104 completely finished doesn't make sense. These are so much higher than the surrounding beams, it's the only thing plausible. Thus, floor 105 must be complete.

We were at 104M,so we had around 59'(give or take)to reach the very tip of the parapet.The beam installed was around 40',which means we are at around the ~15-20 zone,for it to top-out.Definitely not topped out.

We have plenty of forumers here who have inside info and wouldn't be surprised of a few with the blueprints.When the tower tops-out,I'm sure we will be notified by the media and especially by the users in here who have the information.I think what we should do is to chill and relax and watch its last pieces of skeletal steel rise.No need to get ahead of ourselves.:ohno:

chris123678
July 17th, 2012, 04:19 AM
Now You Guys Have Really Gotten me confused.
Before these columns were up, we were,1,313..
With the new columns 40 feet up, we should be 1,353 feet up.
So steel has not reached it's highest point yet. (if i'm correct)

Chibears85
July 17th, 2012, 04:19 AM
...Wait? What is going on? Im confused?

L.A.F.2.
July 17th, 2012, 04:20 AM
..

ThatOneGuy
July 17th, 2012, 04:21 AM
No, we're not.

Chibears85
July 17th, 2012, 04:22 AM
..
I honestly hope we can get a real source that says we did top out :p I mean... All of our info we have now is like.. Is it real? What is going on?

L.A.F.2.
July 17th, 2012, 04:22 AM
Now You Guys Have Really Gotten me confused.
Before these columns were up, we were,1,313..
With the new columns 40 feet up, we should be 1,353 feet up.
So steel has not reached it's highest point yet. (if i'm correct)
Almost a week ago we were hearing reports from SSP that we were at 1,334 feet. If this is true, we have indeed topped out. These beams in comparison to the tower could be more than 40 feet also comparing their height to the total height. If we are at 1,313, however, these could be ~55 feet, thus making us topped out on these two beams as well.

Old Salt
July 17th, 2012, 04:43 AM
Not to worry, we'll find out soon enough. :)

chris123678
July 17th, 2012, 04:48 AM
Almost a week ago we were hearing reports from SSP that we were at 1,334 feet. If this is true, we have indeed topped out. These beams in comparison to the tower could be more than 40 feet also comparing their height to the total height. If we are at 1,313, however, these could be ~55 feet, thus making us topped out on these two beams as well.

Firstly, last week before the beams were placed, the building was 1,313. Then these 40 foot beams were installed which brings us to somewhere around, 1,353, if we were at 1,334, which were, not, then that means the beams would be 20 feet. So were not topped out

L.A.F.2.
July 17th, 2012, 04:55 AM
You are correct in the fact that there is a possibility we were at 1,313 and these are just ~40 feet, making it ~1,353 total. But, these beams could easily be ~55 feet, making it ~1,368 feet / topped out. These beams don't decrease in height just because we are a floor higher. They are definitely ~40 feet or more, no less, so if we were at 1,334 feet, we are indeed topped out.

OnePointWest
July 17th, 2012, 05:04 AM
We were at 104M,so we had around 59'(give or take)to reach the very tip of the parapet.The beam installed was around 40',which means we are at around the ~15-20 zone,for it to top-out.Definitely not topped out.

We have plenty of forumers here who have inside info and wouldn't be surprised of a few with the blueprints.When the tower tops-out,I'm sure we will be notified by the media and especially by the users in here who have the information.I think what we should do is to chill and relax and watch its last pieces of skeletal steel rise.No need to get ahead of ourselves.:ohno:

^^

ThatOneGuy
July 17th, 2012, 05:06 AM
The wait is making people delusional.

chris123678
July 17th, 2012, 05:07 AM
You are correct in the fact that there is a possibility we were at 1,313 and these are just ~40 feet, making it ~1,353 total. But, these beams could easily be ~55 feet, making it ~1,368 feet / topped out. These beams don't decrease in height just because we are a floor higher. They are definitely ~40 feet or more, no less, so if we were at 1,334 feet, we are indeed topped out.

Definatly not 55 foot columns. Base lobby columns are 60 feet and you see how massive they are. They are 40 feet.

IndiansUnite
July 17th, 2012, 05:08 AM
Took these mobile-cam shots today from the Fulton Ferry State Park. I really wish I had my actual camera with me.

http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/2563/img20120716wa002.jpg

http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/8529/img20120716wa001.jpg

L.A.F.2.
July 17th, 2012, 05:11 AM
Alright, I'll give in. But certainly I cannot be disappointed with 40 foot columns going up. We are so close! :banana2:

And thanks for the new photos IU. Great shots.

ThatOneGuy
July 17th, 2012, 05:29 AM
I wish there were more photos from that special angle which makes it appear as if 1WTC and Beekman are right next to each other.

IndiansUnite
July 17th, 2012, 05:38 AM
My friend actually took snaps from her dslr camera. I'll ask her tomorrow to send 'em over.

NYBOY1975
July 17th, 2012, 07:00 AM
FROM: NYBOY75

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_E1rkYx_28s&feature=youtu.be

OnePointWest
July 17th, 2012, 07:45 AM
Don't know how to post Flickr Pics as I only use an iPhone,but I'm going to post the URL to show you some killer photos.

http://m.flickr.com/#/photos/kjholiday/7582296868/
http://m.flickr.com/#/photos/kjholiday/7582292354/
http://m.flickr.com/#/photos/kjholiday/7582280482/

Not My Photos

Informative
July 17th, 2012, 10:14 AM
Oh my goodness! The first picture that you just posted is absolutely incredible! It looks so tall, and huge and just gorgeous! What an incredible tower it will be, WOW! :tyty:

oli83
July 17th, 2012, 11:52 AM
Don't know how to post Flickr Pics as I only use an iPhone,but I'm going to post the URL to show you some killer photos.

http://m.flickr.com/#/photos/kjholiday/7582296868/
http://m.flickr.com/#/photos/kjholiday/7582292354/
http://m.flickr.com/#/photos/kjholiday/7582280482/

Not My Photos

Here you go:

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8431/7582280482_98889ec65d_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kjholiday/7582280482/)
One World Trade Center Up Close (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kjholiday/7582280482/) by KJ Holiday (http://www.flickr.com/people/kjholiday/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7272/7582296868_794aa42f2e_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kjholiday/7582296868/)
One World Trade Center (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kjholiday/7582296868/) by KJ Holiday (http://www.flickr.com/people/kjholiday/), on Flickr

Eric Offereins
July 17th, 2012, 12:53 PM
^^ Great angle. I like the contrast between old and modern. :)

NewYorker2009
July 17th, 2012, 01:21 PM
The recent columns that were put up have splices so there is still more height to go, we aren't at 1,368' just yet so we're almost there. We are over 1,350'.

Kanto
July 17th, 2012, 02:11 PM
^^ This confusion kills me :shifty: Now do you folks mean 1350 - 1353 feet with the wrong height (1368) or with the true height (1374)?

Valkyre
July 17th, 2012, 02:19 PM
The last few pages of this thread are a complete utter mess... everybody is confused right now...

NewYorker2009
July 17th, 2012, 02:30 PM
^^ This confusion kills me :shifty: Now do you folks mean 1350 - 1353 feet with the wrong height (1368) or with the true height (1374)?

Well from the North Entrance you add the extra feet. The 1,368' figure comes from elevation 311' 2" and the North Entrance is at Elevation 305' 6". So you would add 5' 8" to 1,368' and you get almost 1,374'. So the Tower is actually closer to 1,360' right now when measured from the North Entrance. When I said it was about 1,350' I was talking about the Tower being measure from elevation 311' 2". Hope this clears up the confusion.

GeoDude
July 17th, 2012, 02:40 PM
The last few pages of this thread are a complete utter mess... everybody is confused right now...

omg yes. the last couple pages are just a few goons having a purely speculative conversation. let's just see what happens!! obviously no one (or very few here) know exactly what is happening right now.

1Filipe1
July 17th, 2012, 02:41 PM
o.o im so lost lol

Kanto
July 17th, 2012, 03:22 PM
Well from the North Entrance you add the extra feet. The 1,368' figure comes from elevation 311' 2" and the North Entrance is at Elevation 305' 6". So you would add 5' 8" to 1,368' and you get almost 1,374'. So the Tower is actually closer to 1,360' right now when measured from the North Entrance. When I said it was about 1,350' I was talking about the Tower being measure from elevation 311' 2". Hope this clears up the confusion.

Thanks for the info. Now I can update my diagram with the newest progress :cheers:

L.A.F.2.
July 17th, 2012, 04:47 PM
^^ Yes you guys have convinced me that we are indeed at ~1,350 - 1,360 feet. The only thing I cant quite grasp is why they would put up the steel beams the way they did. I would think they would put ~20 foot beams up to the top of floor 105, or even possibly place very long ~55 foot beams to complete floor 105 and the parapet altogether in those two spots. But no, they placed two ~40 foot beams to complete the 105 floor, but only half of the parapet in this area. Also, if this is true, the parapet beams would be angled slightly inward as the rotated square's beams are. From what I have understood and seen, it appears the beams for the parapet will be completely vertical, not angled.

Can someone explain this please?

Chibears85
July 17th, 2012, 04:48 PM
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7253/7582292354_ed587af4e8_b.jpg
I LOVE pictures with 1WTC and Statue of Liberty in it! Thanks so much!

Chibears85
July 17th, 2012, 04:50 PM
Oh yea, And more steel is going up today!
http://www.wtcphotos.com/photos/wtc1_2012-07-17_p1.jpg

Kanto
July 17th, 2012, 05:02 PM
^^ Yes you guys have convinced me that we are indeed at ~1,350 - 1,360 feet. The only thing I cant quite grasp is why they would put up the steel beams the way they did. I would think they would put ~20 foot beams up to the top of floor 105, or even possibly place very long ~55 foot beams to complete floor 105 and the parapet altogether in those two spots. But no, they placed two ~40 foot beams to complete the 105 floor, but only half of the parapet in this area. Also, if this is true, the parapet beams would be angled slightly inward as the rotated square's beams are. From what I have understood and seen, it appears the beams for the parapet will be completely vertical, not angled.

Can someone explain this please?

I though the parapet columns will be slightly angled too just like the columns are on other floors? :dunno:

Chibears85
July 17th, 2012, 05:08 PM
It is now confirmed that the tower will NOT be 1,776 feet, unless somehow the antenna will be an exception...
"After coming onto the project in 2010, The Durst Organization had proposed eliminating the radome to save costs but was rejected by the Port Authority's previous executive director, Chris Ward. His September 2011 replacement, Patrick Foye has changed the Port Authority's position. The decision is final as stated by Douglas Durst: "(the antenna) is going to be mounted on the building over the summer. There's no way to do anything at this point."

Kanto
July 17th, 2012, 05:10 PM
^^ Wow, that's awesome news. Thanks for posting it, it made my day :banana2:

1Filipe1
July 17th, 2012, 05:12 PM
It is now confirmed that the tower will NOT be 1,776 feet, unless somehow the antenna will be an exception...
"After coming onto the project in 2010, The Durst Organization had proposed eliminating the radome to save costs but was rejected by the Port Authority's previous executive director, Chris Ward. His September 2011 replacement, Patrick Foye has changed the Port Authority's position. The decision is final as stated by Douglas Durst: "(the antenna) is going to be mounted on the building over the summer. There's no way to do anything at this point."

WACK

ExclusiveOne
July 17th, 2012, 05:17 PM
It is now confirmed that the tower will NOT be 1,776 feet, unless somehow the antenna will be an exception...
"After coming onto the project in 2010, The Durst Organization had proposed eliminating the radome to save costs but was rejected by the Port Authority's previous executive director, Chris Ward. His September 2011 replacement, Patrick Foye has changed the Port Authority's position. The decision is final as stated by Douglas Durst: "(the antenna) is going to be mounted on the building over the summer. There's no way to do anything at this point."

Smh.

L.A.F.2.
July 17th, 2012, 05:30 PM
^^ This is the best way I can explain it.

http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/s320x320/391330_465162436836593_364177948_n.jpg

Now look at the left side where the arrow points. If the parapet is indeed angled, then where the diagonal beams meet must be angled as well, looking like this: (Pay close attention to the top left and top right beams.)
___________
/\.............../\
|.\............/..|
|..\........../...|

They clearly are vertical in the picture, and not bent. If they were not angled, but vertical, and all the other beams were angled, then you would not have a perfect rotated square. The corners would be extended at an acute angle.

Yet if they all were vertical, then it wouldn't look as strange above the angled sides, for it blends with the connector beams better, as the picture shows. Thus, the parapet must be vertical.

Hope this makes sense.

Kanto
July 17th, 2012, 05:38 PM
^^ Shouldn't it be like this? :dunno:

________
l\........./l
l.\......./.l
l..\...../..l

NewYorkSkyline117
July 17th, 2012, 05:40 PM
It is now confirmed that the tower will NOT be 1,776 feet, unless somehow the antenna will be an exception...
"After coming onto the project in 2010, The Durst Organization had proposed eliminating the radome to save costs but was rejected by the Port Authority's previous executive director, Chris Ward. His September 2011 replacement, Patrick Foye has changed the Port Authority's position. The decision is final as stated by Douglas Durst: "(the antenna) is going to be mounted on the building over the summer. There's no way to do anything at this point."

Chibear85, stop posting old crap that wasn't even recently confirmed. That was from an article over 2 months ago, seriously don't start getting people angry over something that isnt even officially confirmed. People, it
's not confirmed so please don't listen to this. :ohno:

NewYorkSkyline117
July 17th, 2012, 05:41 PM
^^

WACK

Smh.

L.A.F.2.
July 17th, 2012, 05:47 PM
From that angle, yes it would, but from the side (This is exaggerated)(Dots are the sky):
........|
........|
......../
......./
....../
...../
..../
.../
../
./
/
The angled roof beams support vertical beams, and there is a vertical beam above each corner of floor 105 where the diagonal/connector beams meet. I know it is very confusing and hard to explain.

yankee fan for life
July 17th, 2012, 05:56 PM
It is now confirmed that the tower will NOT be 1,776 feet, unless somehow the antenna will be an exception...
"After coming onto the project in 2010, The Durst Organization had proposed eliminating the radome to save costs but was rejected by the Port Authority's previous executive director, Chris Ward. His September 2011 replacement, Patrick Foye has changed the Port Authority's position. The decision is final as stated by Douglas Durst: "(the antenna) is going to be mounted on the building over the summer. There's no way to do anything at this point."

Wheres your source ?

Kanto
July 17th, 2012, 05:56 PM
Chibear85, stop posting old crap that wasn't even recently confirmed. That was from an article over 2 months ago, seriously don't start getting people angry over something that isnt even officially confirmed. People, it
's not confirmed so please don't listen to this. :ohno:

It is confirmed and Chibears has proven it. Just because it is 2 months old doesn't mean it is not true. Douglas Durst certainly knows what he's talking about and if he said the stick will be definitely an antenna, not a spire, I believe him. It's as official as it can be :ohno:

Btw, I thought the steel meets in a perfect square at the top of the parapet, not below it? :dunno:

Lawrence7
July 17th, 2012, 05:58 PM
I'm from the UK and will be in New York for 10 days early August. I'm excited to see the progress when I visit the memorial.

Anyone else going over the summer and looking forward to it?

This will be the 3rd time I've seen One World Trade under construction... July '09, September '10 and August '12. Hopefully it will be topped out by the time I see it next month!

yankee fan for life
July 17th, 2012, 06:00 PM
^^
Lets wait until the official ruling and not our individual bias.

Kanto
July 17th, 2012, 06:04 PM
^^ Btw, here is his source, it's the Wall Street Journal:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304543904577394473619775032.html

Mr. Durst said he raised the issue over maintenance concerns again. Skidmore Owings & Merrill resisted, saying the worries were overblown, according to people familiar with the matter, but the Port Authority in January sided with Mr. Durst, he said.

Asked whether architects could find a compromise design, Mr. Durst demurred. The scaled-down top, he said, "is going to be mounted on the building over the summer. There's no way to do anything at this point."

L.A.F.2.
July 17th, 2012, 06:08 PM
This photo should explain everything (Ignore the green lines). Go to page 1,728. I can't copy it for some reason...

spectre000
July 17th, 2012, 06:11 PM
From wtcprogress.com,

The view from the 100th floor.
https://p.twimg.com/AyAi416CQAAr5AT.jpg:large

https://p.twimg.com/AyAi_E1CIAER2IS.jpg:medium

Kanto
July 17th, 2012, 06:15 PM
This photo should explain everything (Ignore the green lines). Go to page 1,728. I can't copy it for some reason...

U mean this?

http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/4451/wtc1progress.png

Yeah, now I understand, the columns meet at the bottom of the parapet, not on top of it :cheers:

The render above was made by Otie

L.A.F.2.
July 17th, 2012, 06:19 PM
Thank you! And I'm glad you could makee something out of this mess!

yankee fan for life
July 17th, 2012, 06:21 PM
^^ Btw, here is his source, it's the Wall Street Journal:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304543904577394473619775032.html

I read that article before, i know now that it is almost certain that the radome enclosure will not be added to the antenna,but there are still certain criterias that 1 wtc antenna still could be counted to its additional height,so as i said before Lets wait until the official ruling and not our individual bias.

Jongeheer
July 17th, 2012, 06:21 PM
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8157/7568127768_8a5b2ec707_b.jpg

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m78gfo2RVu1qinynjo1_1280.jpg

Chibears85
July 17th, 2012, 06:51 PM
I am so confused... Could someone highlight where we are? (And the 2 'mystery' white steel) on this blank diagram?
http://i.imgur.com/iLcFM.png
Thanks!

chris123678
July 17th, 2012, 06:52 PM
Based on that diagram, those 40 foot columns will be placed all around except where the columns meet.( the triangles) They probably will place 20 foot columns there, and another 20-30 foot column on top. Look at the diagram.

Kanto
July 17th, 2012, 06:56 PM
^^ We're now slightly below the spandrel beam in the middle of the parapet at a height of 414 meters or 1359 feet. I have updated my diagram with the latest progress. From now on the link to my diagram together with the numbers will be in my signature so that it is easier to find it and one doesn't have to scroll through the forum :cheers:

Chibears85
July 17th, 2012, 07:03 PM
^^ We're now slightly below the spandrel beam in the middle of the parapet at a height of 414 meters or 1359 feet. I have updated my diagram with the latest progress. From now on the link to my diagram together with the numbers will be in my signature so that it is easier to find it and one doesn't have to scroll through the forum :cheers:
Can you draw what we have so far on the 'blank' diagram I posted? That will help me a bit more. Thanks!

Chibears85
July 17th, 2012, 07:05 PM
I'm from the UK and will be in New York for 10 days early August. I'm excited to see the progress when I visit the memorial.

Anyone else going over the summer and looking forward to it?

This will be the 3rd time I've seen One World Trade under construction... July '09, September '10 and August '12. Hopefully it will be topped out by the time I see it next month!
Im not going this summer, but instead in the fall (October '12). And it wont be my 3rd time, but my 2nd time in NYC (First being April '07).

Kanto
July 17th, 2012, 07:10 PM
Can you draw what we have so far on the 'blank' diagram I posted? That will help me a bit more. Thanks!

Here ya go :cheers:

http://i48.tinypic.com/2wf3af7.png

The above render was made by Otie

Mercenary
July 17th, 2012, 07:15 PM
So to clear up the confusion, I used Paint to mark the newly installed columns as Red.

So correct me if I am wrong, but is this where the current height of the building is?

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg507/scaled.php?server=507&filename=wtc1progress.png&res=landing

spectre000
July 17th, 2012, 07:19 PM
So to clear up the confusion, I used Paint to mark the newly installed columns as Red.

So correct me if I am wrong, but is this where the current height of the building is?



Yes, that's the general assumption at this point.

Chibears85
July 17th, 2012, 07:24 PM
So to clear up the confusion, I used Paint to mark the newly installed columns as Red.

So correct me if I am wrong, but is this where the current height of the building is?

I think you have the two steel in the wrong spot? Cause on the real picture a few posts above, It shows the steel on a different 'triangle'. Here is my attempt at a diagram. The red represents what we HAVE. The blue represents what we DON'T HAVE YET.
http://i.imgur.com/5Cmmy.png
~Credit to Otie~

OnePointWest
July 17th, 2012, 07:25 PM
At the very least put Otie's name underneath every renendering you use.

Chibears85
July 17th, 2012, 07:27 PM
At the very least put Otie underneath every renendering you use from him.
Done :p

Kanto
July 17th, 2012, 07:38 PM
At the very least put Otie's name underneath every renendering you use.

This is Oties? I didn't know that, I thought he had just found it somewhere. My bad, I apologize for it :cheers:

L.A.F.2.
July 17th, 2012, 07:38 PM
^^ Chibears, you have it exactly right according to the view from New York Harbor. The majority of the steel is at floor 104, but the two steel beams are above floor 105 and halfway up the parapet.

Chibears85
July 17th, 2012, 08:19 PM
Either earthcam is down and they are giving us a backup image, or they took down those 2 steel thingy's on the top (Dont know what they are called :p)
This is really rather odd...
http://i.imgur.com/78krR.png

chris123678
July 17th, 2012, 08:24 PM
^^
They are still up there. I think it's just the lighting

L.A.F.2.
July 17th, 2012, 08:26 PM
Yes, I can just make out the steel directly to the left of the left crane and in between the two cranes.

chris123678
July 17th, 2012, 08:37 PM
As I read through the last 2 pages, I see there is a great deal of confusion so I'll just put my 2 cents in one last time.
Before the last jump, we were 1,313 feet tall. (floor 104)
After the jump two 40 feet steel beams were in place meaning that we are around 1,350.
(Roof,105,and part of the parapet.)
We are not at 1,334, as one of the diagrams questioned. Steel touches at 1,334, so I think it's safe to assume that different steel will be used for those areas.(triangles.)

Kanto
July 17th, 2012, 08:50 PM
^^ The 1334 is not accurate 1340 is the true height of the last slab :cheers:

Enzio
July 17th, 2012, 09:55 PM
Update from the FB page (https://www.facebook.com/wtcprogress):

https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/581013_346816385395606_191211287_n.jpg

The first two columns for the One World Trade Center parapet are up!

chris123678
July 17th, 2012, 10:04 PM
On WTC Progress on Facebook it says that the first two comments of the parapet are up.
Now this has got me wondering.

http://http://www.facebook.com/#!/photo.php?fbid=346816385395606&set=a.133475800063000.32624.109423129134934&type=1&theater

spectre000
July 17th, 2012, 10:05 PM
Nice to finally see some closeups.

I can't help but think the dark grey beam is the 105th level (roof) @ 1,334 ft. Those columns could be ~34 taking it from 1334' to 1368'. Hmmm.

billgates
July 17th, 2012, 10:19 PM
smelly hobo, your mechanical floors on the twin towers are wrong

OnePointWest
July 17th, 2012, 10:23 PM
I'm pretty sure that entire piece isn't the parapet.

Mercenary
July 17th, 2012, 10:32 PM
Update from the FB page (https://www.facebook.com/wtcprogress):

https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/581013_346816385395606_191211287_n.jpg

If the entire column is for the 105th floor and the parapet, that means that technically the building is topped out.

I know it won't be considered officially topped out until all the columns are placed.

But still. :banana::banana::banana::banana::cheers::cheers::cheers:

ThatOneGuy
July 17th, 2012, 10:37 PM
^^Only half of the parapet. It's not topped.

L.A.F.2.
July 17th, 2012, 10:38 PM
Excellent photo enzio. This really shows the size of these beams. And who knows, they could always be 1,368 feet. We'll just wait and see if we are right.:cheers:

KenfromJersey
July 17th, 2012, 10:43 PM
Oops, wrong forum.

BritneySpearsRocks93
July 17th, 2012, 11:02 PM
^^Only half of the parapet. It's not topped.

What makes you so sure of that? It could be the whole thing.

spectre000
July 17th, 2012, 11:07 PM
I wish there was a worker standing by the column so we could get a better sense of the scale.

WeatherRad
July 17th, 2012, 11:19 PM
If the entire column is for the 105th floor and the parapet, that means that technically the building is topped out.

I know it won't be considered officially topped out until all the columns are placed.

But still. :banana::banana::banana::banana::cheers::cheers::cheers:


I believe we're topped out as well. Everyone should take a look at the TOP of the new columns in the above pictures. Notice how they're FLAT (at the top). All of the previous perimeter columns had fittings and connections for new columns to be connected to the top of them. These don't. Another indication that we likely are topped. Also, the official WTC Progress FB page is also saying that these columns are for the parapet! :)

OnePointWest
July 17th, 2012, 11:22 PM
^Still think we are below the 1,374' height.

BritneySpearsRocks93
July 17th, 2012, 11:24 PM
^Still think we are below the 1,374' height.

Yeah but isn't that only at certain elevations?

OnePointWest
July 17th, 2012, 11:35 PM
Yeah,but you can translate the height by using proportions.I just prefer to use 1,374.

BritneySpearsRocks93
July 17th, 2012, 11:39 PM
Yeah,but you can translate the height by using proportions.I just prefer to use 1,374.

Oh ok!

NewYorkSkyline117
July 17th, 2012, 11:41 PM
It is confirmed and Chibears has proven it. Just because it is 2 months old doesn't mean it is not true. Douglas Durst certainly knows what he's talking about and if he said the stick will be definitely an antenna, not a spire, I believe him. It's as official as it can be :ohno:

Btw, I thought the steel meets in a perfect square at the top of the parapet, not below it? :dunno:

That's still wrong, it's not confirmed that it will be an antenna and not a spire. He just brought up an old article that everyone saw months ago, talked about, and then we decided to just wait and see, so we dont need to start trouble by resurfacing it. No one knows that for sure so no one is right. There's no confirmation of anything besides the scrapping of the radome.

NewYorkSkyline117
July 17th, 2012, 11:47 PM
What makes you so sure of that? It could be the whole thing.

Well maybe because there's only two columns up...? Why would that be the whole thing, plus thats nowhere near half of the parapet!

Chibears85
July 18th, 2012, 12:39 AM
That's still wrong, it's not confirmed that it will be an antenna and not a spire. He just brought up an old article that everyone saw months ago, talked about, and then we decided to just wait and see, so we dont need to start trouble by resurfacing it. No one knows that for sure so no one is right. There's no confirmation of anything besides the scrapping of the radome.
Well I didnt know, I joined in june, so I didnt know that was already brought up... I have been following the WTC progress since 2006, but not the forums..

Otie
July 18th, 2012, 01:05 AM
These columns reach the final perimeter structure height. Stainless steel parapet is a few inches (maybe a foot) above the top of columns.

http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/6452/10200352.jpg

chris123678
July 18th, 2012, 01:19 AM
OTIE THANK YOU!
Now there is no more confusion and I think it's time for some bannans.
:banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:

OnePointWest
July 18th, 2012, 01:30 AM
Bittersweet,I thought we still had an extra 15-20'.Still time for celebration.
:banana::banana::banana:

ferdinand mex
July 18th, 2012, 01:40 AM
nice building of NYC

1Filipe1
July 18th, 2012, 01:41 AM
These columns reach the final perimeter structure height. Stainless steel parapet is a few inches (maybe a foot) above the top of columns.

http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/6452/10200352.jpg
^^ :banana:

L.A.F.2.
July 18th, 2012, 01:50 AM
Finally! :banana::banana::banana:

OnePointWest
July 18th, 2012, 01:53 AM
:banana::banana::banana:
:banana::banana: :banana:
:banana: :banana:
:banana::banana:
:banana::banana::banana: :banana:

1Filipe1
July 18th, 2012, 01:55 AM
so technically did it top out? just not with all of the beams in place?

Otie
July 18th, 2012, 01:57 AM
^Yup, ceremony will be made when the last spandrel beam gets in place.

Joe Woolhead (http://www.joewoolhead.com/home/2012/07/17/site-photos-june-2012/), photo taken on June

http://www.joewoolhead.com/home/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/DSC_1301.jpg

1Filipe1
July 18th, 2012, 01:58 AM
^^^ When do u think that might be?

Otie
July 18th, 2012, 02:01 AM
^As soon as weather permits.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8150/7590258344_8631135b65_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/82142022@N05/7590258344/)
DSC_0396 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/82142022@N05/7590258344/) by Surveillance Van (http://www.flickr.com/people/82142022@N05/), on Flickr

IndiansUnite
July 18th, 2012, 02:08 AM
Took these a couple of hrs ago from 6th and 21st:

http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/4465/dscn5900v.jpg

don't know how this one got a tint on it
http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/530/dscn5901u.jpg

http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/1451/dscn5902a.jpg

Otie
July 18th, 2012, 02:09 AM
Graphic released by ADF Group a long time ago..

http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/7889/1017513.jpg

chris123678
July 18th, 2012, 02:40 AM
Otie, Kanto or somebody who knows, what is a spandrel beam?
Where the triangular beams meet?

Chibears85
July 18th, 2012, 02:42 AM
Its about time :D 6 years finally pays off!!!!
:banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::pepper::pepper::pepper::pepper::carrot:

WTCNewYork
July 18th, 2012, 02:46 AM
Wow this is great. :D I can't believe it's finally at the roof line.. hopefully they can put in the final beam by the end of the week. :cool:

Otie
July 18th, 2012, 02:52 AM
Otie, Kanto or somebody who knows, what is a spandrel beam?
Where the triangular beams meet?

It's an exterior beam that connects two perimeter columns, when worked together with the filler beams they carry the floor and transfer the loads to the perimeter columns, these have anchors to support also the curtain wall.

OnePointWest
July 18th, 2012, 03:00 AM
A Look at 1WTC Vertical Transportation
July 16,2012 @12:45 P.M. vvdesign02

http://powerfulinfographic.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/ALookatVerticalTransportationInsideOneWorldTradeCenter_4ffed0b45a9f0.png
http://powerfulinfographic.com/

L.A.F.2.
July 18th, 2012, 03:06 AM
^^ Very informative post 1PW. Great facts you've got there.

Hudson11
July 18th, 2012, 03:08 AM
looks like there's still confusion over the whole number of floors/stories thing

OnePointWest
July 18th, 2012, 03:14 AM
^Blame it on the PA.They label 23' floors as double floors(though I know some do have the Mezzanine floors).

NewYorker2009
July 18th, 2012, 03:49 AM
Otie, Kanto or somebody who knows, what is a spandrel beam?
Where the triangular beams meet?

A spandrel beam is the exterior beam that extends from column to column and marks the floor level between each floor. The triangular beams meet at the 105th floor. It is pretty much the same kind of scenario we saw when the office floors first started rising above the base where you would have columns that are straight and then started to taper as the building reached the 24th floor or around that area.

NewYorkSkyline117
July 18th, 2012, 04:07 AM
What makes you so sure of that? It could be the whole thing.

Maybe because there's only two columns.....? Why would that be the complete parapet, it's not even half of it :)

NewYorkSkyline117
July 18th, 2012, 04:08 AM
Why does it say 102 floors?? Wow this is incredible, 1,368 feet :D

chris123678
July 18th, 2012, 04:15 AM
A spandrel beam is the exterior beam that extends from column to column and marks the floor level between each floor. The triangular beams meet at the 105th floor. It is pretty much the same kind of scenario we saw when the office floors first started rising above the base where you would have columns that are straight and then started to taper as the building reached the 24th floor or around that area.

Is it like a "node"?

ThatOneGuy
July 18th, 2012, 04:29 AM
There's serious talk on SSP that the steel may have included the parapet and it is topped...

But I'm still sticking to my theory that it only includes half the parapet and there's one jump left.

chris123678
July 18th, 2012, 04:45 AM
There's serious talk on SSP that the steel may have included the parapet and it is topped...

But I'm still sticking to my theory that it only includes half the parapet and there's one jump left.

Read Oties Post On the previous page/.

JMGV196
July 18th, 2012, 05:25 AM
OMG It looks so tall, so big, so epic. So finished!!

ParadiseLost
July 18th, 2012, 05:29 AM
I thought it wasn't going to be the tallest in the us anymore? Just a crappy antenna right?

ThatOneGuy
July 18th, 2012, 05:30 AM
Read Oties Post On the previous page/.

Guess I was wrong.

It's reached full height!!!:banana::banana:

SO143
July 18th, 2012, 05:40 AM
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7246/7549896602_0736f3cbba_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/taigatrommelchen/7549896602/)
P1120178 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/taigatrommelchen/7549896602/) by taigatrommelchen (http://www.flickr.com/people/taigatrommelchen/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7134/7549896508_709921279d_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/taigatrommelchen/7549896508/)
P1120172 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/taigatrommelchen/7549896508/) by taigatrommelchen (http://www.flickr.com/people/taigatrommelchen/), on Flickr

Mercenary
July 18th, 2012, 06:15 AM
Guess I was wrong.

It's reached full height!!!:banana::banana:

And I was the first one to point out the building topped out. :banana::banana::banana:

BritneySpearsRocks93
July 18th, 2012, 06:53 AM
GSA is officially signed on as the third tenant for One World Trade Center, now making this baby more then half occupied:banana::banana::banana:

http://m.nypost.com/p/news/business/finally_gsa_signs_wtc_lease_plVOLaufGehywgtvky8kLN?utm_medium=rss&utm_content=Business

OnePointWest
July 18th, 2012, 07:09 AM
55% leased :banana::banana::banana:

Otie
July 18th, 2012, 07:14 AM
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8423/7594174310_3438d299d3_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/62018165@N04/7594174310/)
Seagull at One WTC (http://www.flickr.com/photos/62018165@N04/7594174310/) by Otie O'Daniel (http://www.flickr.com/people/62018165@N04/), on Flickr

oli83
July 18th, 2012, 09:35 AM
http://www.wtc.com/utils/Download.aspx?file=/uploads/images/hi-res/12_30_20120711-1WTC---Credit-Michael-Calcagno---01(web).jpg

by Joe Woolhead from http://www.wtc.com/media/

Gargarensis
July 18th, 2012, 12:37 PM
spotted this morning:

http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/6498/screenshot20120718at825.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/837/screenshot20120718at825.png/) Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us)

Kanto
July 18th, 2012, 12:52 PM
^^ That looks like a tripplecolumn. The top of 1WTC will be similar to a reversed bottom of the old Twins :cheer:

Btw, I updated my diagram with the new top out info from Otie. Thank you Otie for making things clear :cheers:

1WTC has finally topped out. I will quote Stanton Friedman and say this is the biggest story of the millenium :banana2::banana2::banana2::banana2::banana2::banana2::banana2::banana2::banana2::banana2::banana2::banana2::banana2::banana2::banana2::banana2:

yankee fan for life
July 18th, 2012, 01:17 PM
^^

I think you jump the gun there kanto , by saying 1wtc has top out.

wukikimonkey
July 18th, 2012, 03:46 PM
^^I'm sure you can forgive Kanto for being a bit excited. This is some pretty damn exciting stuff.

ThatOneGuy
July 18th, 2012, 03:53 PM
Does that corner piece have the entire parapet height on top, or just half? I can't tell.

L.A.F.2.
July 18th, 2012, 03:56 PM
^^ That looks like a tripplecolumn. The top of 1WTC will be similar to a reversed bottom of the old Twins :cheer:

I'm thinking that there will just be 4 of those, each going on top of the connector beams.

/|\

L.A.F.2.
July 18th, 2012, 03:58 PM
Does that corner piece have the entire parapet height on top, or just half? I can't tell.

It looks like half, but I imagine they will attach the other half before placing it.

chris123678
July 18th, 2012, 04:04 PM
Those columns look like the orginal World Trade Center tridents.

Hudson11
July 18th, 2012, 04:51 PM
spotted this morning:

http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/6498/screenshot20120718at825.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/837/screenshot20120718at825.png/) Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us)

so is this the one?

http://oi48.tinypic.com/oktx1i.jpg

L.A.F.2.
July 18th, 2012, 04:57 PM
^^ You are correct. :okay:

singoone
July 18th, 2012, 05:16 PM
:banana: Finally T/O. Yeah!!! :banana:

chris123678
July 18th, 2012, 05:27 PM
FIRST CORNER NODE WHENT IN!!!:banana::banana::banana::banana:

NewYorkSkyline117
July 18th, 2012, 05:33 PM
And I was the first one to point out the building topped out. :banana::banana::banana:

Would you like a trophy or a medal?

pnapp1
July 18th, 2012, 05:33 PM
Great shot of the 2 columns up. They are indeed at parapet height.:

Caption from WTC Progress:
The first two columns for the One World Trade Center parapet are up!

http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/334243_346816385395606_191211287_o.jpg
WTC Progress Facebook:

http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/221415_346889478721630_1588679890_o.jpg
WTC Progress Facebook:

chris123678
July 18th, 2012, 05:34 PM
Would you like a trophy or a medal?

Haha.:lol:

KenfromJersey
July 18th, 2012, 05:35 PM
FIRST CORNER NODE WHENT IN!!!:banana::banana::banana::banana:

Yeah, it did. I can't just stare out my window all day, waiting for something to happen. But today I got lucky.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7272/7597586924_42aea8cc5b_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/28030045@N06/7597586924/)
IMG_0442 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/28030045@N06/7597586924/) by drken10003 (http://www.flickr.com/people/28030045@N06/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7130/7597616044_8d4129ba59_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/28030045@N06/7597616044/)
IMG_0445 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/28030045@N06/7597616044/) by drken10003 (http://www.flickr.com/people/28030045@N06/), on Flickr

And it's in.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8292/7597615684_1900ee2b3a_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/28030045@N06/7597615684/)
IMG_0457 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/28030045@N06/7597615684/) by drken10003 (http://www.flickr.com/people/28030045@N06/), on Flickr

Hudson11
July 18th, 2012, 05:43 PM
can't wait for the cladding to reach this height. It'll be amazing.

edit : banana dance!

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080329191652/uncyclopedia/images/3/31/Dancing_Banana.gif

ThatOneGuy
July 18th, 2012, 05:44 PM
At last, that triangle is completed. 3 left.

NewYorkSkyline117
July 18th, 2012, 05:44 PM
OMG!!!!!!!!! :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

ThatOneGuy
July 18th, 2012, 05:51 PM
The netting being raised will make the structure seem much taller then we've been used to for the past month and a half :lol:

Kanto
July 18th, 2012, 05:55 PM
^^

I think you jump the gun there kanto , by saying 1wtc has top out.

Otie said the columns reach to the top of the parapet and if somebody knows what's happening it's Otie :master:

pnapp1
July 18th, 2012, 05:58 PM
Great shots Ken! :cheers:

Otie
July 18th, 2012, 06:02 PM
Does that corner piece have the entire parapet height on top, or just half? I can't tell.

It reaches the top of parapet.

OnePointWest
July 18th, 2012, 06:02 PM
Herp Derp Herpy Derpy,I can't speak I'm so excited :banana::banana::banana:

net222
July 18th, 2012, 06:02 PM
Finally!! :D

Kanto
July 18th, 2012, 06:03 PM
I'm thinking that there will just be 4 of those, each going on top of the connector beams.

/|\

Yup, you're right. 1 in each corner. I'm sorry that I used wrong words to describe it, I forgot to add that they'll be just in the corners :cheers:

spectre000
July 18th, 2012, 06:04 PM
What a fantastic milestone. Now if only the base cladding would start.

Otie
July 18th, 2012, 06:21 PM
^Permasteelisa is installing anchors on the north face, south face (excluding the concrete walls) is already completed.

chris123678
July 18th, 2012, 06:25 PM
^Permasteelisa is installing anchors on the north face, south face (excluding the concrete walls) is already completed.

Otie, two questions.
1. How Do They Install base cladding on the concrete part?
2.Base Cladding starts in October, correct?

L.A.F.2.
July 18th, 2012, 06:31 PM
I've been touring Downtown Brooklyn and Pine Street for the past hour on Google Maps, so I figured I'll see if there's any more progress, and we've added another whole page and a corner node. :lol:

Yup, you're right. 1 in each corner. I'm sorry that I used wrong words to describe it, I forgot to add that they'll be just in the corners :cheers:

It's all good Kanto, I'm glad to see the progress happening so quickly.

Old Salt
July 18th, 2012, 06:41 PM
Yeah, it did. I can't just stare out my window all day, waiting for something to happen. But today I got lucky.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7272/7597586924_42aea8cc5b_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/28030045@N06/7597586924/)
IMG_0442 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/28030045@N06/7597586924/) by drken10003 (http://www.flickr.com/people/28030045@N06/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7130/7597616044_8d4129ba59_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/28030045@N06/7597616044/)
IMG_0445 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/28030045@N06/7597616044/) by drken10003 (http://www.flickr.com/people/28030045@N06/), on Flickr

And it's in.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8292/7597615684_1900ee2b3a_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/28030045@N06/7597615684/)
IMG_0457 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/28030045@N06/7597615684/) by drken10003 (http://www.flickr.com/people/28030045@N06/), on Flickr

Awesome shots!! :nocrook::nocrook::nocrook:

L.A.F.2.
July 18th, 2012, 06:44 PM
Would you like a trophy or a medal?

And if you go to page 1,755, it clearly shows that he has no idea what is going on. :lol:

dunefreezer
July 18th, 2012, 06:56 PM
Nice to see this one very close to topping out....All those years!

cyberurban
July 18th, 2012, 06:56 PM
Who will be the first person who is going to post in page 1,776? :)

Chibears85
July 18th, 2012, 06:58 PM
I will start a diagram as well.
Here is where we are at the moment: (Correct me if wrong)
http://i.imgur.com/nKgXV.png

Uaarkson
July 18th, 2012, 07:15 PM
These final beams are whoppers!

billgates
July 18th, 2012, 07:26 PM
I will start a diagram as well.
Here is where we are at the moment: (Correct me if wrong)
http://i.imgur.com/nKgXV.png

The steel columns meet at the bottom of the parapet, right?

OnePointWest
July 18th, 2012, 07:27 PM
These final beams are whoppers

Immense to say the least.