what really makes me mad about supertalls is they always seem to get setbacks and end up going on hold or being cancelled. im just glad that this building WILL be built. I really enjoy the design

They are starting to put up jumbo columns tomorrow!


This is great news! For some reason, I was thinking they wouldn't start erecting them until the end of September. :cheers:

This is great news! For some reason, I was thinking they wouldn't start erecting them until the end of September. :cheers:

I thought it was coming later as well. I'm gonna be glued to the webcam tomorrow!

I thought it was coming later as well. I'm gonna be glued to the webcam tomorrow!

The PANYNJ schedule for Freedom Tower last year stated that installation of the beams would not happen until Q4.

They are weeks ahead of schedule.

July 31st, WTC.com
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/115775945/large.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/115775945/original.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/115776021/original.jpg

wow

the two crawler cranes obviously will not be able to erect perimeter columns past their boom heights, and are not going to move upward with the tower itself. this begs the question - how will the perimeter columns be installed for the remainder (majority) of the building? The obvious answer is the tower cranes - but if the tower cranes have the capacity to erect the perimeter beams on the upper floors - why not just use them for the lower floors? are the lower floor perimer columns in much longer (therefore heavier) segments? basically, why even bother with the crawlers?

I've been pondering this too. The perimeter columns probably get smaller/lighter at higher levels, but it's hard to believe that the ones just beyond the reach of the crawler cranes are significantly smaller than the ones within reach. Perhaps the crawlers just help get the columns in a position so that the tower cranes can safely lift them?

The perimeter columns on the lower floor (mostly the lobby) are more than triple height, so it is likely that its triple height (and assumed triple weight) is what keeps the cranes in the core from actually putting them in place.

The tower cranes had to work together to lift those columns. I don't think they can do that in all directions now because of all the erecting steel blocking the north crane. The columns will definitely get lighter as they go up. I'd guess the length is probably dictated by whatever the tower cranes can lift.
I was wondering if the crawler was going to travel down Fulton St. too

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/6054/wtc16c.jpg
http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/6054/wtc16c.jpg

I kinda like the 2 towers best but this one can do.

It's 8:30 AM and I don't see any new columns, but the crane has been moving around a lot and I do see a lot of activity and lots of people.

WTC Tower 4 seems quite active too.

once again, the new red crawler crane will be used not only for columns but for everything else around freedom tower, that includes help build new path station, memorial building, etc...

It's 8:30 AM and I don't see any new columns, but the crane has been moving around a lot and I do see a lot of activity and lots of people.

WTC Tower 4 seems quite active too.

It looks to me like the first column is laying on its side to the immediate east side of the wooden tracks and is being prepared to be lifted into place. there are all kinds of people next to it and you can see about a dozen or so people on the roof of the path station near by. Should be fun.

once again, the new red crawler crane will be used not only for columns but for everything else around freedom tower, that includes help build new path station, memorial building, etc...


Yeah, that's nice and all, but installation of the jumbo columns is supposed to start today.


New Video: http://www.panynj.gov/wtcprogress/video-gallery.html

Yeah, that's nice and all, but installation of the jumbo columns is supposed to start today.


New Video: http://www.panynj.gov/wtcprogress/video-gallery.html

it is now :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/4328/63474389.jpg



:banana::banana::banana::banana:

The beam is longer than long cat. I'm pretty sure it's the first beam that's 100% above grade, a great milestone.

it is now :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/4328/63474389.jpg



:banana::banana::banana::banana:

Screw you Bin Laden :cheers:

These new jumbo beams weigh over 2300 pounds per running foot!

"Each column weighs approximately 70 tons and each is approximately 60 foot long" - from Port Authority press release yesterday.


http://www.panynj.gov/wtcprogress/press_releasesItem.cfm?headLine_id=1282


Bugs

http://mathias.attali.free.fr/bldg/firsterection.jpg
http://www.earthcam.com/clients/groundzero/groundZero.swf

That's one large steel beam. Great! :cheers:

GreenwichBoy, Wired New York:
http://wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=7477&d=1250083445

From the Winnipeg Free Press, top story/picture.

"A 70-ton perimeter column for One World Trade Center is lowered into place at Ground Zero in New York City today. The jumbo column is the first that rises above street level and will allow workers to start constructing the floors of the tower."

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/

wow i'm excited..i wonder whats the pace they are working on them jumbo collumns...3-4 in a week?

Looks great. Glad to finally see some progress.It will really compliment the skyline upon completion.:cheers:

They put some kind of beam/access walkway next to the top of the jumbo column. Maybe for stabilization?

Also, more concrete got poured on the southern side of the memorial, in the middle where there is a big gap in the steel.

Those are work platforms for the Ironworkers. It's gona take some time to put the 200+ bolts in those connections. They may also be welded.

Coming back from vacation to this really makes the re-entry less painful !

Those are work platforms for the Ironworkers. It's gona take some time to put the 200+ bolts in those connections. They may also be welded.

Coming back from vacation to this really makes the re-entry less painful !

You mean somebody isn't tossing hot rivets into a bucket?
I need to get out more often.

Excellent process! :cheers:

Excellent process! :cheers:

I don`t see any great process at this place since one year...?:ohno:

I don`t see any great process at this place since one year...?:ohno:

Will you please PAY ATTENTION to the details. There is HUGE process since last year. :ohno::ohno::ohno:

I don`t see any great process at this place since one year...?:ohno:

Apparently you're blind.

Then tell me where is the rising of the building since one year, the middle block wiht the crane is still about a year the same. There are no shifts in the timetable of building?

Then tell me where is the rising of the building since one year, the middle block wiht the crane is still about a year the same. There are no shifts in the timetable of building?

Obviously, you didn't pay attention to what happening to Ground Zero on this thread in the past year.

1. Freedom Tower core already raised but stopped for now. One of two cranes got jumped. They just started to install jumbo columns now. After that, the rest of Freedom Tower will rise.

2. The foundation on Ground Zero is processed a lot in the past year including WTC memorial site, retail center, and transportation hub. Almost all of them are raising to street level.

3. WTC 4 foundation is almost completed and starting to rise now.

4. There is nothing going on WTC 2 and 3 yet due to political issues.

@Basel_CH
Dont forget the north core jumped 3 or 4 stories during the last year! Most of them in the last few months!

The lower levels have been poured. And the Plaza level around the tower has been nearly fully poured, too. Just look at the brown circle, below the crane, which is a tree planter.

Vesey street has been dismantled and so on...

The memorial and tower 4 have made even greater progress. The memorial and tower 4 simply did not exist one year ago!

Progress is everywhere, you are just unable to remember what it looked like one year ago, because you dont pay much attention to this project.


August 2008:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3269/2747671600_f2c9fd183e_o.jpg


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3136/2746839173_285851213d_o.jpg

They should make this thing 17760 Ft high! Now that would be a true monument to just how great freedom is. :)

^^^^
don't you think it's a little bit too high :lol:

Boy, it feels like this moment was never going to come. It'll be great to show the world the progress made on the tower come next months 9/11 anniversary.

When are they going to install the other columns? How is the schedule for it?

When are they going to install the other columns? How is the schedule for it?

Not sure. They probably will install more columns in the coming weeks. They have to install the columns to continue construction, so that would mean soon. We'll see what happens tomorrow.

I think they also have to make another core pour or two, install the framework steel on the northern part of the core (which may not be done until the end of September), and jump the tower crane before they can get started on above grade floors. The lobby is about 50 feet high.

http://wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=7479&d=1250119158
Greenwich Boy again, Wired New York

they just mentioned this just now on NY1

Those are work platforms for the Ironworkers. It's gona take some time to put the 200+ bolts in those connections. They may also be welded.

Coming back from vacation to this really makes the re-entry less painful !
I've been around a lot of construction sites and have never seen an elaborate platform and catwalk like that built just for the ironworkers to work on! Even with all of the safety precautions that are imposed these days this seems freely out of place. Any ironworker I know would be embarrassed to have something that fancy built just for them to do their work! Hopefully there is some other reason for it or else the PA has more money than they know what to do with and they should be using it to build towers 2 and 3!

they just mentioned this just now on NY1

I hope they had a positive spin on it. I saw former Sen. D'Amato on a show last week saying we should only be building a park on the site, nothing else. I hope they get many more columns up in time for Sep 11. I hate the thought of the "rebuild the twin towers" folks getting airtime. The public is finally going to see some real progress now.

^^ Those Twin Towers 2 imbeciles claim that they will do someting so big on 9/12 that it will get everyone's attention, stop construction on the FT and somehow magically get everything on the WTC site to be removed so the old towers can be rebuilt. They couldn't be any more delusional.

Apparently THREE COLUMNS ARE GOING UP TOMORROW

70-ton column is largest installed at WTC tower

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/media/ALeqM5hOhcmDi9YT-P5UxXiO1FdZ1xFuHg?size=l

NEW YORK — Builders of the tallest office tower under construction at ground zero have set a 70-ton piece of steel into place — the largest column installed yet at the building.

Three more columns are set to go up Thursday, and 24 by the fall at One World Trade Center, also known as the Freedom Tower. The 1,776-foot-tall skyscraper is the largest of five planned to replace the trade center after the 9/11 attacks.

Each steel column — made at a factory in Luxembourg — is about 60 feet long. The columns at the bottom of the tower's foundation are about 35 feet long.

The new columns will bring the building's steel skeleton several stories above street level. The building is set to be finished in 2013.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gsMWFqclEuOiOzudD9z5ci6OLugwD9A1H9680



http://imgsrv.1010wins.com/image/DbLiteGraphic/200908/4913663.jpg?1250127301

http://imgsrv.1010wins.com/image/DbLiteGraphic/200908/4913673.jpg?1250127252

http://imgsrv.1010wins.com/image/DbLiteGraphic/200908/4913674.jpg?1250127261
http://www.1010wins.com/PICS--Progress-at-the-WTC-Site--Steel-Columns-Inst/4992165

I have to say I'm impressed with the recent installation of the Jumbo Column at this Tower. For all those people out there that feel it is going slow they are right but to say there is no progress is totally unacceptable. People need to open their fucking eyes and they need to understand that this Tower has to be one of the strongest in the world. That means they have to add more concrete, more rebar, more steel, more everything. New York cannot take any chances at screwing this Tower up after 9/11. Most people thought the Twin Towers were indestructable but they weren't so this Tower has to succeed its predecessor. Two years ago I was complaining how slow this Tower was going and even last year bothered me but now One World Trade Center aka Freedom Tower is taking shape and it will be the best building this city has had in decades so I look forward to seeing it rise in the coming years.

if that shit slips it would instantly kill anyone with such weight...thats unbelivable how we have made machines capable of carrying 70 tons of metal!!humanity is so great

anyways, im very excited to see progress in such great and important place of lower manhattan. On sunday i went on the Staten Island Ferry, and i cant lie, it is still had for me to believe that there is such a gap in the lower manhattan skyline. Sometimes it is still hard for me to believe that the twin towers are gone, even though that happened almost a 8 years ago. considering that i was in the 107th floor twice before they got knocked down...but anyways, a feeling of happines gets to me everytime i see this tower rise, representing a new era for the capital of the world. nothing better than sweet NY!:)

3 Columns tomorrow! I'll be glued to the webcam again tomorrow.

I've been around a lot of construction sites and have never seen an elaborate platform and catwalk like that built just for the ironworkers to work on! Even with all of the safety precautions that are imposed these days this seems freely out of place. Any ironworker I know would be embarrassed to have something that fancy built just for them to do their work! Hopefully there is some other reason for it or else the PA has more money than they know what to do with and they should be using it to build towers 2 and 3!

The PA has nothing to do with it, DCM signed the contract over a year ago ($276 million), Tower One is bought and paid for.

Would it helped if I said over 200 bolts, each one over 5 pounds is going into those connections above the work platforms, and as I said, I believe the connections are also welded, so welders need them too.

I have seen smiler platforms during bridge erection. I believe it's cause they are past the "3 floors" rule.

It's also because the have no access to drive a cherry picker up to work from, and I'm not sure they make any that could go to the top of a 60-foot beam anyway.

Huffpo has more pics:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/12/largest-column-installed-_n_258224.html

It's so awesome to see the pace begin to skyrocket. I went to the site about two weeks ago and already progress is noticeable.

I seriously cannot wait to see progress next year.

New column delivered this morning.

Something of interest to a comment mentioned above, CNN just mentioned the jumbo column's installation just a few moments ago. Seems that this is getting the publicity it needs.

And thanks for the update, yrades.

2nd column being lowered into place right now.

70 tonne for just one beam.
the whole tower must weigh millions

70 tonne for just one beam.
the whole tower must weigh millions

Both Twin Towers combined weighed about 1 million tonnes?

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd29/yrades/2ndcolumn.jpg
2nd column almost in place.

Both Twin Towers combined weighed about 1 million tonnes?

Yes indeed.

And to the original person who guessed, I wouldn't put it to QUITE that weight, but probably pretty close considering the concrete being used and whatnot.

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd29/yrades/2ndcolumn.jpg
2nd column almost in place.

..wow. I must be tired considering I was shocked to see the complete outline of the tower outside of the core. Anyway, thanks for the pic.

It will be interesting to see how they add the tilted corner columns, cant wait to see that!

GreenwichBoy:
http://wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=7480&d=1250169198
:cheers:

It's also because the have no access to drive a cherry picker up to work from, and I'm not sure they make any that could go to the top of a 60-foot beam anyway.

Funny, they're using a cherry picker right now to get to the top of the new column. There are plenty of cherry pickers that can reach 60'+ (i've seen them up to 110 feet).

The platform is for when they atach all the beams that meet at the top there. They need a bunch of workers there, more than one or two cherry pickers can hold.

BTW if you want to see some really elaborate scaffolding, check out the Tokyo Sky Tree thread.

It'll be the new NY symbol for sure :)

It'll be the new NY symbol for sure :)

The whole complex will be without a doubt. Still hoping 2WTC and 3WTC make it. :l

Sorry, went off topic with that. I'm excited to see how it looks at the end of the day.

The PA has nothing to do with it, DCM signed the contract over a year ago ($276 million), Tower One is bought and paid for.
? Who do you think paid the $276 million? The PA, if they were diligent with the public's money they would have reviewed all aspects of the project to ensure it was being done in the most efficient way possible.
Would it helped if I said over 200 bolts, each one over 5 pounds is going into those connections above the work platforms, and as I said, I believe the connections are also welded, so welders need them too.
Not really, I've managed many projects just as complex that involved hazardous chemicals so they were even more critical and there's still seems like a significant overkill. Also I'd be extremely surprised if they did this for every column, for some reason I'm thinking they just did it on the first one.I have seen smiler platforms during bridge erection. I believe it's cause they are past the "3 floors" rule. There's no such rule, any work done above 6 feet needs fall protection, no matter how much higher and there are strict regulations covering what kind of fall protection is required. You certainly don't see platforms like that built while very high steel is being erected, so it looks very strange here. Besides at this site manlifts and crane baskets would be very effective alternatives.

Special platforms are quite often used on bridges but they're a different matter entirely due to accessibility issues.

GreenwichBoy:
http://wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=7480&d=1250169198
:cheers:

Why is that tall steal install inside of the building.. or are they bout to move it ontop of one of the outside installed steals already??

I think this is where the top of the new column is.

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/2391/baseg.png

^^ You are correct.

Why is that tall steal install inside of the building.. or are they bout to move it ontop of one of the outside installed steals already??

Because the beam was only being prepared to be put up at the time the picture was taken.

Funny, they're using a cherry picker right now to get to the top of the new column. There are plenty of cherry pickers that can reach 60'+ (i've seen them up to 110 feet).

The platform is for when they atach all the beams that meet at the top there. They need a bunch of workers there, more than one or two cherry pickers can hold.Thanks for the correction and the information.

From wtcprogress.com:
http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/6284/wtcprogressjumbocolumns.jpg

Why is that tall steal install inside of the building.. or are they bout to move it ontop of one of the outside installed steals already??

That's right folks, contrary to popular belief, there IS steel inside a building :nuts:

Looks like we might only be getting one today guys, the rain may be hampering installation. But one is obviously still a lot better than none. These columns are quite large. :)

Looks like we might only be getting one today guys, the rain may be hampering installation. But one is obviously still a lot better than none. These columns are quite large. :)

the weather has been terrible this year in northeast, rain, rain and rain :ohno:

Looks like we might only be getting one today guys, the rain may be hampering installation. But one is obviously still a lot better than none. These columns are quite large. :)

I hope that's what the problem is. They say they'll all be in by the fall, so I wonder if they mean before September 22nd or by the end of fall? I'm hoping September 22nd.

How do they get the 60 feet, 60 tons columns into the city, by ship?

The transport itself has to be quite a task... :cheers:

How do they get the 60 feet, 60 tons columns into the city, by ship?

The transport itself has to be quite a task... :cheers:

Probably. Big container ships can carry like 100,000 tons so a few 60 tons columns shouldn't be a big problem.

So 22 columns to go, should be possible in a few weeks... It's becoming something here, finaly! :banana:

This might be a little random and off topic, but I was thinking, it's going to be real difficult to clean the flat sides of the tower with the window washers because there's really no space to hang anything from above once they reach the top, especially to cover the whole wall of the building.

See what I mean?

http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/3435/10x7ftmstreet7ud.jpg

How do that clean the facades of other skyscrapers that have a similar shape?

^^ It will likely be an adjustable arm like they have at Hearst and BOFA.

How do they get the 60 feet, 60 tons columns into the city, by ship?

The transport itself has to be quite a task... :cheers:

Drive it through the Lincoln Tunnel from the Port of Elizabeth most likely early in the morning.

EDIT: sorry for the double post.

If it's possible to clean this one- cleaning 1WTC should be a piece of cake:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2610/3747722239_54efd37b68_o.jpg

How do they get the 60 feet, 60 tons columns into the city, by ship?

The transport itself has to be quite a task... :cheers:

The PA website said that they are being trucked in from New Jersey over the George Washington Bridge.

Funny, they're using a cherry picker right now to get to the top of the new column. There are plenty of cherry pickers that can reach 60'+ (i've seen them up to 110 feet).

The platform is for when they atach all the beams that meet at the top there. They need a bunch of workers there, more than one or two cherry pickers can hold.

BTW if you want to see some really elaborate scaffolding, check out the Tokyo Sky Tree thread.

JLG, Genie and Snorkle all make bucket lifts that reach up to 135 feet. We used 8 of the JLG's when we were erecting the "entrance towers" at the Prudential Center in Newark.

This might be a little random and off topic, but I was thinking, it's going to be real difficult to clean the flat sides of the tower with the window washers because there's really no space to hang anything from above once they reach the top, especially to cover the whole wall of the building.

See what I mean?

Funny you should mention this, I have the Window Washing prints here with me at home. Below the communications platforms on the roof there well be a circular track that 3 window washing cranes ride on. These cranes have a horizontal telescoping arm that can adjust to the slope of the curtain wall by moving in or out. They can also reach the vertical sides of the building. The scaffold that the window washers ride on is hung from a beam at the end of the crane arm giving them horizontal travel.

They really did think of everything when they designed this baby.

PS: The window washing cranes are the main reasion that an observation platform can not be built on the roof.

? Who do you think paid the $276 million? The PA, if they were diligent with the public's money they would have reviewed all aspects of the project to ensure it was being done in the most efficient way possible.

Not really, I've managed many projects just as complex that involved hazardous chemicals so they were even more critical and there's still seems like a significant overkill. Also I'd be extremely surprised if they did this for every column, for some reason I'm thinking they just did it on the first one. There's no such rule, any work done above 6 feet needs fall protection, no matter how much higher and there are strict regulations covering what kind of fall protection is required. You certainly don't see platforms like that built while very high steel is being erected, so it looks very strange here. Besides at this site manlifts and crane baskets would be very effective alternatives.

Special platforms are quite often used on bridges but they're a different matter entirely due to accessibility issues.

Matter one: The PA through Tishman DID get the LOWEST bids for the project!!! (I could not pick a better steel contractor than DCM)

Matter Two: I refer you to the OSHA manuals on steel erection. (I well say no more on this topic)

PS: there is far more than the outer connections to deal with, as I said in the past the outside of the second floor hangs from the third floor. Access is needed for these hangers and the subsequent floor beams of the second floor.


Bottom line, NOTHING I have seen so far is above and beyond what is mandated by OSHA or the AISC.

I consider this matter closed and I well not make anymore replays to this topic.

How long did it take them to put that platform up? Less than an hour?
How much time and money would they spend procuring crane or manlift service and coordinating it's use on a busy site? How much inefficiency because they're not going to be there on demand but only at planned times?
You don't need fall protection whenever you're above six feet. Only when there's no railing of required height preventing you from falling in the first place.
Those platforms are the cheapest and easiest ways to get people where they need to be by a long shot. You have two crane operations, to put them up and take them down.
If they're welding those beasts, it's not going to be a small job. I weld, but I have no idea how they'd go about it with Beamzilla there.

How long did it take them to put that platform up? Less than an hour?
How much time and money would they spend procuring crane or manlift service and coordinating it's use on a busy site? How much inefficiency because they're not going to be there on demand but only at planned times?
You don't need fall protection whenever you're above six feet. Only when there's no railing of required height preventing you from falling in the first place.
Those platforms are the cheapest and easiest ways to get people where they need to be by a long shot. You have two crane operations, to put them up and take them down.
If they're welding those beasts, it's not going to be a small job. I weld, but I have no idea how they'd go about it with Beamzilla there.

The short version is pre heating to 260+ degrees followed by horizontal passes with E 8018 welding rod followed by post heating. Repeat untell the 5 inch thick flange is filled.

PS: I'm also an AWS Certified welder. D1.1 and D 1.5 all positions.

Zen, do you work on this site? How do you know so much about all of this?

Zen, do you work on this site? How do you know so much about all of this?

I work for a company that bid on the project and I have all the prints for Tower One and The Memorial.

By work for I mean I am part owner of.

Zen, do you work on this site? How do you know so much about all of this?

because


PS: I'm also an AWS Certified welder. D1.1 and D 1.5 all positions.

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because


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AWS= American Welding Society, D1.1 is the Structural Steel certification, D1.5 is the Structural Pipe certification.

w00t 3rd beam has arrived :) (pretty sure that a beam:tongue3:) or is it?

w00t 3rd beam has arrived :) (pretty sure that a beam:tongue3:) or is it?

Yep, it's there...:)

Hell, they'll need the platform to hold the electric cable if they're going to heat up those beasts. A hundred tons of three inch thick steel makes a pretty good heat sink. It will probably take two or three hair dryers at least.

looks like it is one of the slanted beams for the chamfered corner

Time for 3rd column to go vertical...:D

Getting an early start today. Hopefully they can put up another two before the end of the day if the weather cooperates.

I think they will just finish the first corner of the building today. The Corner columns seem to be shorter, so they will also have to add some connection beams on top of it, to connect them to the bigger ones.

A couple from NYguy, yesterday
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/116072352/large.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/116072379/large.jpg

Nice. Glad to see some progress!:)

Nice shots.

One angled column is in place.

Looks like they are pouring more concrete on the west side of WTC1. Hard to tell exactly where, though.

cool

vertical columns looking good!

(from earthcam):
http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc18/gt2437/FT20090814.jpg

I was hoping there'd be more than one up today =\

those vertical columns make a huge difference to us watching the construction form afar. Up she comes!

Well even if they only erect one per day all of them will be up by the end of September.

The also poured concrete for the rest of the exposed sheet metal on the south pool day.

concrete truck just pulled in next to north core, I think they will pour north core overnight :banana:

wow..^^seems like there getting alot of work done

It looks like they are pouring the north core right now.

It looks like they are pouring the north core right now.

that what i said :|

I'd love to see someone seriously say that they see no progress. Would the lobby floor be done by the end of the year?

I'd love to see someone seriously say that they see no progress. Would the lobby floor be done by the end of the year?

its should be done this quarter ( Q3) unless they fall behind

http://www.panynj.gov/wtcprogress/milestones.html

its should be done this quarter ( Q3) unless they fall behind

http://www.panynj.gov/wtcprogress/milestones.html

Wow, awesome. Thanks for the link. :D

12 hours in, still pouring ( 2 concrete trucks) now that what I called bad @$$ :)


also they are moving a bridge that was over PATH tracks

It seems like they've been pouring for over 14 hours, but right now they aren't focusing on the core.

any time concrete is going down, then i think this is a good thing!

Yeah, the North Core pour. Sweet, we took our eye of that one with all the steel excitement going on. :)

So does this mean the concrete sections of the core sections are equal?

They should be level now. I would think they will start putting up the remaining metal framework on the north core within the month.

So does this mean the concrete sections of the core sections are equal?

Should be. I thought the last time they jumped the north core the two were equal, but I guess that wasn't the case. The webcam seems to confirm this. We should see steel going up on top of the north core fairly soon.

Does anyone have pictures or a link to the webcams? I lost them. :l

Does anyone have pictures or a link to the webcams? I lost them. :l
http://www.earthcam.com/clients/groundzero/groundZero.swf

^^ Thank you.

No new steel today :?

^^
Saturday, probably not. They're working, but not on steel. The north core jumped last night.

Is there a webcam opposite the one we have now? Preferably one that catches the entire site.

Yes, but it hasn't been working properly for awhile now. The camera has to be moved down further also, and some days it’s on, others it’s not. :ohno:

http://rebuildgroundzero.org/webcam/rgz_000.jpg

I wonder could it be possible to place a request to the people operating the current HD cam, to say... get another on the other side.:)

I think its building momentum now, we'll be seeing it rise soon

columns

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bonus

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http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2458/3824147171_415a436ce0_b.jpg

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Amazing updates!!!

I am curious about this tilted jumbo column... It looks somehow not equal as other 90' degree angle jumbo columns. I am not sure how it will get built if the columns are not equal but I will watch the process and learn from it. :)

Amazing updates!!!

I am curious about this tilted jumbo column... It looks somehow not equal as other 90' degree angle jumbo columns. I am not sure how it will get built if the columns are not equal but I will watch the process and learn from it. :)

i am not sure about this but if you look at the render on the first page it looks like the bottom of the tower bulges outward then comes back in

Amazing updates!!!

I am curious about this tilted jumbo column... It looks somehow not equal as other 90' degree angle jumbo columns. I am not sure how it will get built if the columns are not equal but I will watch the process and learn from it. :)

The corners of the base are chamfered

http://static.flickr.com/77/202631900_047ba88411_o.jpg

^^ I got it now. Thanks! :)

i am not sure about this but if you look at the render on the first page it looks like the bottom of the tower bulges outward then comes back inTo build on Uaarkson's post, the situation developed after the NYPD raised objections to the original proposal. Originally the triangles that make up the sides of the buildings were to extend from the roof to the ground level, and the building was to be much closer to the roads. The police felt that that proposal would have left the tower too exposed to possible future acts of terrorism. This is a part of why it's taken so long to get to this point; they pretty much had to start over from square one.

The initial revision took the original design and squished it to sit alop a square concrete base. This satisfied the NYPD security objectives but was heavily criticized for destroying the asthetics of the building. Later revisions clad the concrete base with reflective glass panels, and (I believe) David Childs came up with the idea of making the base a reflection of the building atop of it. The base is 200 feet high. The ground level lobby will have 50-foot ceilings; the remaining vertical space will be occupied by mechanical space. The line between the base and the building proper serves the same function as the surface of a body of water; the 200 feet of the base are upside-down copy of the 200 feet above.

What is the work time there?
Are they workin' on sundays?

What is the work time there?
Are they workin' on sundays?

There are a few workers on the site, but no, nothing major happens on Sunday.

And amazing pictures Econ Tim, thanks for the update! :okay:

NEW RENDER:
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk157/BOJAMforeva/SDC10586.jpg

Second, new pictures from BStyles on SSP:
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk157/BOJAMforeva/SDC10580.jpg

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk157/BOJAMforeva/SDC10581.jpg

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk157/BOJAMforeva/SDC10582.jpg

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk157/BOJAMforeva/SDC10583.jpg

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk157/BOJAMforeva/SDC10585.jpg

^^^^^^^ The 1st pic above; the plaza looks chocky. Doesn't look prettier than the original plaza.. I also see that the sides of the building is gonna looks similar to the original towers also. I can't wait to see this building half way up in construction.

^^^^^^^ The 1st pic above; the plaza looks chocky. Doesn't look prettier than the original plaza..

Well I think they are trying to make the plaza functional and safe. I don't think pretty was really the point. The chairs and tables are an excellent idea though. They did that at the base of the Comcast Center, and, from what I saw, people seem to like the concept.

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk157/BOJAMforeva/SDC10583.jpgI really love this photo because it puts to rest the complaints about them building platforms just to do a little welding. Looking at that, when they installed the columns they also installed beams connecting the columns to the steel inside the concrete core. The platforms appear to be movable ones that have been simply mounted on top temporarily for the installation.

great pics ,just wondering why the tall outer steels are nice and clean and the central core steels were old and rusty looking ?

I really love this photo because it puts to rest the complaints about them building platforms just to do a little welding. Looking at that, when they installed the columns they also installed beams connecting the columns to the steel inside the concrete core. The platforms appear to be movable ones that have been simply mounted on top temporarily for the installation.

Compared to having to hoist the workers and equipment with cranes those platforms are about a hundred times easier and faster. I'm sure whatever that welder was Zen referred to isn't something you carry in a backpack.

If the floor connections are like this all the way up, compared to the original buildings connections these must be at least fifty times as strong. I'd be interested to know how much this building will weigh compared to the originals.

I really love this photo because it puts to rest the complaints about them building platforms just to do a little welding. Looking at that, when they installed the columns they also installed beams connecting the columns to the steel inside the concrete core. The platforms appear to be movable ones that have been simply mounted on top temporarily for the installation.

What building is being contructed in the background of this photo? I dont know New York well enough to know what direction that is.

What building is being contructed in the background of this photo? I dont know New York well enough to know what direction that is.

That's east. And the under construction building is Beekman Place.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=404222

I thought so. The unique facade isnt visible from this angle and it looks very different.

^^ The cladding isn't that high up yet. If you look closely, a small part of it is visible.

great pics ,just wondering why the tall outer steels are nice and clean and the central core steels were old and rusty looking ?Most steel is designed to rust a certain amount; this top layer of rust then protects the rest of the steel from further weathering and decay. My guess is that the perimeter columns are either a different, more uniform rust color or were painted so that the paint would serve the same protective function.

great progress.
heres something in todays sydney paper
doesnt sound good.

World Trade Centre impasse
12:00AM | Alan Mirabella and Chris Dolmetsch Bloomberg, with Ben Wilmot | The Australian Financial Review

New York governor David Paterson has said he would favour scaling down the World Trade Centre development to limit construction of skyscrapers until they were economically feasible.

^^
He's been saying that for months, they want to temporarily not build towers 2 and 3 until the economic climate gets better. Developer Larry Silverstein can't get a lone to build the two towers because of the economic crisis, and the Port Authority (which owns the site) doesn’t want to divert money away from other transportation projects, but are obligated under contract to put up the rest of the money to finish the site.

^^makes sense...is there even demand for new towers in this economic condition? even if by the time they would be done the economy would probly be improved..

Most steel is designed to rust a certain amount; this top layer of rust then protects the rest of the steel from further weathering and decay. My guess is that the perimeter columns are either a different, more uniform rust color or were painted so that the paint would serve the same protective function.

You are thinking of a type of steel most comonly found in guard rails etc. none of witch is used in Tower One. They were painted becouse 1) they are not encased in concrete and 2) they well be exposed for quite some time before being enclosed in the buildings outer covering.

Thanks for the clarification, Zensteeldude. Am I right, then, that the paint on the perimeter columns is protective? Or is it just because of the extended high visibility?

How was the progress of the tower? Can some one please update some pics of the tower? :)

http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss35/eyk88/14_23_2009_08_03-East-Bathtub.jpg
From:www.wtc.com (http://www.wtc.com/media/images/d/14_23_2009_08_03-East-Bathtub.jpg)

That's not the Freedom Tower's site, but it seems like WTC Tower 4 is at street level and will be above the street soon.

^^
That picture is actually from a couple of weeks ago. They already poured the level they were working on from that view, the west half of the tower. The entire building will be on the final basement floor this week. It's motoring along, especially considering the large Tower 4 footprint.

GREAT SHOT>

What are the plans with what I think are the remnants of the H&M terminal in the lower left of the PIC?

To the North of the WTC Transit hub excavation where it juts into the bathtub.

GREAT SHOT>

What are the plans with what I think are the remnants of the H&M terminal in the lower left of the PIC?

To the North of the WTC Transit hub excavation where it juts into the bathtub.

That is where Tower 2 is supposed to go.

That is where Tower 2 is supposed to go.

right--- of course -- but there is a portion in that section of the pit that juts out by the far eastern wall.

If you look at the shots from the other side there are tunnels going in there that I speculate are the old H&M terminal. It has a crane on it now..

does anyone know if that comes down as part of the excavation?

A few pics do no harm in case of a new thread

http://img336.imageshack.us/img336/8477/view1ry6.jpg

http://www.wtc.com/images/popup/img_downloads/enlarged_img/185000-pu.jpg

http://www.richardrogers.co.uk/Asp/uploadedFiles/image/5270_WTC_tower3/concept/5270_0021_1_w.jpg

http://www.richardrogers.co.uk/Asp/uploadedFiles/image/5270_WTC_tower3/concept/5270_0021_1_w.jpg

Completion - 1st Quarter 2011

Size - 2,600,000 sf

i like it so much

Floors - 80-foot-high public lobby topped by a series of mechanical floors form a 200-foot-high building base. 69 tenant floors rise above the base to 1120 feet elevation. Mechanical floors, two floors to be occupied by the Metropolitan Television Alliance, restaurants and observation decks culminate in an observation deck and glass parapet that mark 1362' and 1368' respectively — the heights of the original Twin Towers. An antenna supported by a cable structure rises to a final height of 1776'

Location - Freedom Tower is located in the northwest corner of the 16-acre World Trade Center site, bounded by Vesey, West, Washington and Fulton Streets.

Building Amenities - Observation decks, world-class restaurants, and the Manhattan Television Alliance (MTVA) broadcast and antennae facilities.
All floors served by direct elevators. Cross-over elevator banks at floors 20, 29, 37 and 45.
Ground floor contains a secure, 45-foot-high marble and glass entry lobby facing Greenwich Street, where access is limited to black cars and taxis.
Loading dock with five bays accessible from Washington Street.
Each floor served by individually tenant-controlled DHX units.
Each floor has 6w per sf of power available, with additional power if required.


Transportation - Freedom Tower offers access to mass transportation (including the A, C, E, 1, 2, 3, N, R , 4, 5, J, M, Z and PATH trains) both at grade and through an underground concourse with entry immediately outside the building and running from the new Fulton Street Transit Center to Battery Park City and the World Financial Center.






- The desired schedule for construction, calls for the tower's foundation to commence April of 2006, concrete to grade by the end of 2007, topping out in 2009 and completion in 2011.
- This building will consist of 69 office floors, and 13 non-office floors with uses ranging from mechanical to dining.
- Ground for actual construction (different from the cornerstone placing) was broken on April 27, 2006.
- A parapet wall around the roof will bring the building's height to 1,368, the same height as the old North Tower.
- The 187-foot-high base will be concrete clad in over 2,000 pieces of prismatic glass.
- The 408-feet tall decorative spire will encase an antenna with a lighting system to make it into a beacon.
- Foundation work started in July 2006.


OFFICIAL SITE: http://www.wtc.com/

i like it so much

^^:banana:

^^
The above press release from the PA shows how much the schedule has slipped since ground was broken. It stated that the building would top out this year and we can all see how close it used to doing that!

Transportation - Freedom Tower offers access to mass transportation (including the A, C, E, 1, 2, 3, N, R , 4, 5, J, M, Z and PATH trains) both at grade and through an underground concourse with entry immediately outside the building and running from the new Fulton Street Transit Center to Battery Park City and the World Financial Center.

damn, quite many subway / train lines there... :nuts:

-"The 408-feet tall decorative spire will encase an antenna with a lighting system to make it into a beacon".
It's true?.

^^ I'm not sure if that's the case. So many things about the project has changed since then. I'm sure someone would be able to clarify, though.

There will still be a spire with lighting, but the antenna inside has been scrapped.

Fuck, when are they going to put up more jumbo columns? :(

^^ Oh, I knew about the antenna being scrapped, but I wasn't sure if the lighting was. Thanks.

Hmmm it seems to be going along pretty slow...not much has happened for months

^^ Obvious troll is obvious?

I'm pretty sure they will make the light show from the spire be the best. I don't think it's something that died.

From:www.wtc.com (http://www.wtc.com/media/images/d/14_23_2009_08_03-East-Bathtub.jpg)

Does anyone feel like making a timelapse of the construction :p? Would be very cool I think :).

Wow! Its visable above ground! I cant wait to see this thing half through construction!

Hmmm it seems to be going along pretty slow...not much has happened for months

While you might be able to say that about the Russia Tower....you can't about this one....progress the last few weeks is stellar. PAY ATTENTION.

I'm pretty sure they will make the light show from the spire be the best. I don't think it's something that died.

Would be pretty cool if it had event lighting like the Empire State Building.

It will have special lighting on 9/11 and other specified dates, otherwise it will remain plain mild illumination to save on electricity.

- A

^^
Is that confirmed? That would be huge if true, I hoped they were going to bring those lights back.

Actually, nothing at all about the lighting has been confirmed. I'm just certain that however they light it up the building will look awesome because it was one of the main focuses of this project.

Would be pretty cool if it had event lighting like the Empire State Building.

Or fireworks like the Taipei 101 :nuts:

It's kind of a no brainer for the tallest skyscraper in Manhattan to have a lighting scheme. I have no doubt it'll look awesome.

It's kind of a no brainer for the tallest skyscraper in Manhattan to have a lighting scheme. I have no doubt it'll look awesome.

I sure hope so

Looks like they're connecting those beams on the corner...

And there pulling up that beam... and... HE COULD GO ALL THE WAY!!! YES!!! its up.. lol jkin with you man

Breaking News: We Have A Concrete Truck "Clog" Emergency :lol::lol::lol:

http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/1698/24315039.jpg

Looks like they’re adding a cross beam to connect two of the columns they put up, today (so much for 24 columns in 24 days. :lol:)

http://wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=7492&d=1250605009

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3440/3824957186_00305cac44_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2628/3824960766_c579873d86_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3472/3824958022_2b498bf213_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/8461516@N06/3824957186/

Looks like they’re adding a cross beam to connect two of the columns they put up, today (so much for 24 columns in 24 days. :lol:)

when fish rides bicycle :)

They could put up the remaining 21 in 24 hours, if motivated. Looks like a simple operation to me, but what do I know about construction.

hasn't anyone learned not to get too excited at what seems to be
a milestone? remember when the first columns were put up? everyone
thought it was going north, full steam ahead at that point....we all should
know better by now.

It's kind of a no brainer for the tallest skyscraper in Manhattan to have a lighting scheme. I have no doubt it'll look awesome.

The twin towers didn't.

And progress HAS skyrocketed in the past week, so I think we have a good reason to assume it's going to go faster from here.

I think we still have to wait for the steel to be erected over the north core and the floor on the west side plaza for all the perimeter columns to be installed. Anyone who thought they'd put up 24 columns in 24 days hasn't been following the construction of this tower much over the last few years.

It's come this far in a very long time, and it'll be several more years to finish. Best thing to do is just sit back and watch.

just confirming some heights-
height to ob decks
390m,395m and 400m? has the ring an ob deck? 420m?

I think this projest will be completed successfully.

I think it would be cool if it had design like the Empire State Building let alone lighting events. The best thing for lower Manhattan is that it will take a few years for this thing to be finished. I mean design wise the Libeskind design was far superior, hell I'd prefer the Foster building to be the centerpiece tower over the boring Childs tower thing.

Early morning, 4th beam...:D

Early morning, 4th beam...:D

damn u beat me to it :)

damn u beat me to it :)

:tongue3:

I think this one is for the corner...

:tongue3:

I think this one is for the corner...

me too, those corner beams a little shorter form what I noticed

wait a second! theyre taking the anntenna off completely! That means it'll be like 400 foot shorter!

wait a second! theyre taking the anntenna off completely! That means it'll be like 400 foot shorter!

Plans were that they going put antenna inside spire, but that got canceled. Spire is still will be there

The second 'angle' column is about to be lifted

Aug 15th, WTC.com :)

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/116244988/original.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/116245031/original.jpg

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Every 3 months I visit this topic hoping to see some change. Every 3 months I get disappointed...

I would love to visit NYC, once this building is complete. Yet, looking at the progress I do not think it would be soon. Perhaps in 2011.

Please I mean no harm, but it is almost un-American that this is taking so long to make.

@Rahmani
You are blind! You would not even see progress at the sky tree with this attitude.

Every 3 months I visit this topic hoping to see some change. Every 3 months I get disappointed...

I would love to visit NYC, once this building is complete. Yet, looking at the progress I do not think it would be soon. Perhaps in 2011.

Please I mean no harm, but it is almost un-American that this is taking so long to make.

That's because all you're looking for is changes in height. In the last few months the entire site has more or less been brought to street level, and in the last week they've started putting up the jumbo perimeter columns. Pay more attention.

Every 3 months I visit this topic hoping to see some change. Every 3 months I get disappointed...

I would love to visit NYC, once this building is complete. Yet, looking at the progress I do not think it would be soon. Perhaps in 2011.

Please I mean no harm, but it is almost un-American that this is taking so long to make.

wonna cookie?

just confirming some heights-
height to ob decks
390m,395m and 400m? has the ring an ob deck? 420m?

That sounds about right, it's about the same as the old towers. The ring reaches more like 430 meters, don't know if there will be an observatory there but it would be cool. The highest office floor is about 345m, the 88th i believe.

wonna cookie?

yes please.

The very corner columns look smaller. If so what is the weight difference?

if it is the same but shorter...bugstone said that each jumbo beam weighs over 2300 pounds per running foot and are approximately 60' tall...so you can do the math on that

Every 3 months I visit this topic hoping to see some change. Every 3 months I get disappointed...

I would love to visit NYC, once this building is complete. Yet, looking at the progress I do not think it would be soon. Perhaps in 2011.

Please I mean no harm, but it is almost un-America

n that this is taking so long to make.


Strong advice: start visiting the site every 7 months. Thank you.

:)

I mean design wise the Libeskind design was far superior, hell I'd prefer the Foster building to be the centerpiece tower over the boring Childs tower thing.

Thats your own opinion. Libeskind design was a peice of crap, and while Child's design isn't exactly ground breaking, at least the buildings roof height is significantly higher.

Ugh. Just thinking about Libeskind's design makes me queasy.

hey guys, heres a quick diagram ive drawn up on freedom towers construction progress.
let me know if you think ok or mistakes.
btw, i only count 84 actual floors?
ive scaled dimensions of elevations ect all heights are approx.do you guys want feet quoted as well?
(ive added ESB for comparison)
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2672/3837945841_879f996151_o.png

I am looking forward to watching this tower.Could someone post some pics for this building?

Nice diagram CULWULLA. I hope you continue to do one for the remainder of construction, like with the Burj. Great idea. :okay:

I am so glad that the building has started growing, though I think its design has aged a bit. But all in all it will still be a stunning building.

hey guys, heres a quick diagram ive drawn up on freedom towers construction progress.
let me know if you think ok or mistakes.
btw, i only count 84 actual floors?
ive scaled dimensions of elevations ect all heights are approx.do you guys want feet quoted as well?
(ive added ESB for comparison)
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2672/3837945841_879f996151_o.png

I am so glad that the building has started growing, though I think its design has aged a bit. But all in all it will still be a stunning building.

I wouldn't say the design has aged any, the tower is more an end of an era. Supertalls today are not really designed with weight in mind, but height and style. This is from the Taipei 101, Hong Kong International Finance Center/ Commerce Center, Shanghai World Financial Center, Jin Mao Tower generation. But, more over, the design is based around the original twin towers. Even if this tower were designed today, it would probably look something similar.

My saying it has aged a bit is because several lower buildings have completed elsewhere and look somewhat similar to this one. I am sure they got the inspiration from Freedom Tower but they built first which makes the design a bit aged.

I wouldn't say the design has aged any, the tower is more an end of an era. Supertalls today are not really designed with weight in mind, but height and style. This is from the Taipei 101, Hong Kong International Finance Center/ Commerce Center, Shanghai World Financial Center, Jin Mao Tower generation. But, more over, the design is based around the original twin towers. Even if this tower were designed today, it would probably look something similar.

My saying it has aged a bit is because several lower buildings have completed elsewhere and look somewhat similar to this one. I am sure they got the inspiration from Freedom Tower but they built first which makes the design a bit aged.

Which ones are you talking about?

Culwulla, maybe this will help your diagram. Sorry for the huge file size. Their are smaller versions on the web, but this is the original one. Zensteeldude can probably verify the accuracy.

http://e2iouq.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pRjfzyRStUwiZnopAnQkfQeGqG36KC7KKQcl_3xtQEtOu_UxQZ_u8RnrPhx6DZvWxe5Q1JvNn8nEpHujZopjFHtP5spphTztR/Freedom%20Tower%20schematic.bmp

guys, i notice the thread title says 108floors. ive only counted 84 from plans? there are 70 typical office floors of 4m each but flloors near base and top differ. some up to 12m high?

btw, i only count 84 actual floors?




Yea, most sources say it actually has 86 but the 108 number is just for show really, floors 7-19 don't exist, neither do floors 94-99 and a few others, I got the info from the glass steel and stone website.

Cool diagram by the way.

I mean design wise the Libeskind design was far superior, hell I'd prefer the Foster building to be the centerpiece tower over the boring Childs tower thing.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion but I thank whatever god there is up there that we have the current design, and that's a huge understatement! The old design was a 65 story office tower with cables, CABLES reaching up higher, this is a skyscraper, not a bridge. Those concrete cores would have probably been pretty ugly too, just awkward looking over all (and really half invisible), so was the shape of it. The new design is great I think, it's basically a blue glass box version of the original north tower, with slanted corners that make the building taper a little from certain angles but look like a box from others. The spire also looks very thick and dominant.

Is this thing really being built faster? Im new to the skyscraper loop and I cant yet tell.

^^ Yes it is, now the north core is finally catching up with the south core it means that the most difficult part of the construction is over. The North core is built on top of a working underground train line and that had a big impact on the speed of construction. Now that hurdle is taken they can go up faster, the south and north core can go up together at the speed from now on and they've started on the tower body with the huge steel beams that we all have seen in the fantastic pictures that where posted.

I really like the spire of this one. I can see it being in many movies, music videos, tv shows, and documentaries.

- A

Is the design for the spire final? I don't think there ever was a final design.

Sweet. One more question: is there a structual-based reason on why the designt has a v like main framework?

In looking at the drawing posted by Spectre, it still seems to me that the core takes up a huge amount of the available space. Looks like less than half the space on each floor will actually be usable.

That's normal. Look at the floorplans of the original towers and you'll see huge areas for the core. This building will be much stronger, thus the space issue.

Looks like another huge column went up, 4 and counting. :cheers:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2623/3837771424_343259c9f5_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2623/3837771424_7c3d6c6147_o.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/aramsinnreich/3837771424/sizes/o/

Lecom, SSP:
http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/3306/volumea.jpg

Someone changed the view of the HD cam.

they turned the webcam a little bit to the right:


http://archives.earthcam.com/archives5/ecnetwork/us/ny/nyc/gzmpr/gzrobotic1.jpg

eMKay, SSP:

http://i700.photobucket.com/albums/ww7/eMKayBFLO/nyc03.jpg

http://i700.photobucket.com/albums/ww7/eMKayBFLO/nyc04.jpg

http://i700.photobucket.com/albums/ww7/eMKayBFLO/nyc05.jpg

http://i700.photobucket.com/albums/ww7/eMKayBFLO/nyc06.jpg

http://i700.photobucket.com/albums/ww7/eMKayBFLO/nyc07.jpg

http://i700.photobucket.com/albums/ww7/eMKayBFLO/nyc08.jpg

The very corner columns look smaller. If so what is the weight difference?

The press release was very general and only quotes the weight per foot of the heaviest columns. All the columns have a W14X730 at the center the difference is the side plates. They range in size from 5 1/2 inches thick by 40 inches wide up to 6 inches thick by 42 inches wide.

PS None of the biggest (heaviest) ones have been erected yet.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/35124796@N04/3256117559/sizes/o/in/set-72157613376736607/

Wow fuck, it's hard to imagine them getting any bigger than what's up now :nuts:

The press release was very general and only quotes the weight per foot of the heaviest columns. All the columns have a W14X730 at the center the difference is the side plates. They range in size from 5 1/2 inches thick by 40 inches wide up to 6 inches thick by 42 inches wide.

PS None of the biggest (heaviest) ones have been erected yet.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/35124796@N04/3256117559/sizes/o/in/set-72157613376736607/

Are the biggest columns the ones that will be erected on top of the ones that are going up now or are they for a different part of the building?

Are the biggest columns the ones that will be erected on top of the ones that are going up now or are they for a different part of the building?

I think they are going to be the ones right next to (inboard) of the ones already in place. These are the ones with the big W on top, and will carry the heaviest loads. We may see the first one tomorrow!

is it possible for one to photograph a truck delivering a column? And it's nice to see some massive additions to the buildings outer shape.

looks bright

Seeing the first above-grade columns go up brings back memories of the first columns going up two years ago.

http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/1675/1440freedomtowermarch20.jpg

Funny how people don't realize the amount of work that went into bring the tower to this level and how large and complex the lower section really is. WTC Tower 4 is a cakewalk compared to FT because its circumstances and location are different. It would not be absurd saying that in one year this tower and WTC Tower 4 will be in the skyline and quickly climbing.