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Krattle
September 9th, 2009, 03:46 AM
You seriously think New York could lose to London? What a joke! London is a completely different kind of city and it has a minuscule skyscraper district. New York is already so built up it's very hard to find new space to build, and in fact it's almost always necessary to tear down old stuff. The only city/cities that possibly beat New York in numbers of skyscrapers and density are Hong Kong and Shanghai. Tokyo in terms of density, but not height.

Taiki24
September 9th, 2009, 04:07 AM
NYC could never build another skyscraper and it would still remain the most important city in the US and one of the most important in the world.

No, not true. At some point it would be left behind in terms of density and relevance. True world class cities, like Tokyo, London and New York, are always building anew, staying ahead of the curve.

spectre000
September 9th, 2009, 04:44 AM
And things certainly have.:applause:

hmm, have they really. Although its great to see new steel over the north core and six new perimeter columns. That's a months worth of work (first jumbo column went up August 12th if I remember correctly). I'd be amazed if the rest of the perimeter columns were put up by November 1st.

backupcoolm4n
September 9th, 2009, 04:52 AM
I never said it was isolated, as I live in the suburbs of New York City myself, and know firsthand how close it is. If my wording appeared that way, I didn't mean it to. Even then, New York isn't isolated internationally, either. It's one of the most economically important cities in the world at this point in time.

And I was referring more to the area of brownstones between Midtown and Downtown, though that might have been misinformation from my father who used to work in the city. He said the bedrock wasn't as strong as the areas of Downtown and Midtown, which is why there isn't any buildings taller than a few hundred feet there. Seems that I've been lied to or misinformed for quite a few years, then. Thanks for the clarification.

Also, I apologize for going off topic.

Progress looks good. :D



actually you are partially right about the downtown and midtown thing, the reason for it isnt because the soil isnt good enough, its because there is a dip in the bedrock, anyway if u drill deep enough u will eventually hit bedrock, and as we know tall buildings can be built in those places as the Trump Tower SoHo is built pretty far from any buildings as tall as it.

RKOwens44
September 9th, 2009, 05:18 AM
Finally, I am back. For some reason about a month ago, SkyscraperCity kept saying I had the wrong password. I changed it twice and it never let me log in. Finally I just decided to change my username.

Anyway, like I was saying on the Wired New York forums, I recently toured the site and have a lot of pictures and videos that I'll be posting. To respond to the progress being slow, let me just saying that by following the construction on the webcams, they give you NO IDEA how massive the site really is and how much is going on. I arrived in the lobby of 1WTC around 6 o'clock pm last Saturday and saw two ironworkers welding the new tall perimeter column at the southeast corner to the column below. We took some photos and video and then went down into the museum and memorial plaza for about an hour and a half. We came back and they were still working on the same section. We talked with one of the construction guys for about half an hour, took pics with him, and the ironworkers were STILL at work on the same tiny section of just one column. I have no idea how long they were also working before we arrived and after we left. It's a labor intensive process. These guys were working well into the night too.

And the museum levels are way more massive than anything the webcams or pictures (which there are hardly any of) have shown. I was there last September and was stunned that all of this had been done in just one year. My pics will show some of the progress on the museum levels but I'll just say that it's much further along down in there. The concrete within the footprint of the North Tower is already poured on the lowest level, about half in poured on the middle level of the tower, the walls around the chiller plant and mechanical rooms are already going up... it's really coming along. Egh, what the hey, I'll go ahead and upload one pic now (though I need to sort through and resize about 140+). The great hall!!!

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3517/3902655742_251d34c6d1_b.jpg

RKOwens44
September 9th, 2009, 05:27 AM
^^By the way, that's the "last column" inside the white box. I found out they had to build an entire climate-controlled structure for it after all the photographers left last week in order to keep all of the "grafitti" (for lack of a better word) from being damaged by being in an open atmosphere. There are all kinds of A/C units on the side of the box away from the camera. Eventually it'll have a permanent climate-controlled box made of glass.

TXSkyWatcher
September 9th, 2009, 05:30 AM
I wish everyone had to read your post before they typed in 'slow progress'.....thanks for posting...can't wait see the pics!

spectre000
September 9th, 2009, 06:21 AM
Man I'm jealous. I was at the WTC site in early August. I definetly understand the scale of the whole project (and I still stand by my
statements the construction is very slow going). But nothing I can do about it.

RKOwens44 are you with a specific media group or an independent photographer/journalist? Will you be publishing your trip/pictures? Very cool stuff, I can't wait to be there again when it's all finished.

meh_cd
September 9th, 2009, 06:42 AM
Man I'm jealous. I was at the WTC site in early August. I definetly understand the scale of the whole project (and I still stand by my
statements the construction is very slow going). But nothing I can do about it.

RKOwens44 are you with a specific media group or an independent photographer/journalist? Will you be publishing your trip/pictures? Very cool stuff, I can't wait to be there again when it's all finished.

He knows Joe Woolhead. I'm very jealous.

adam-albany
September 9th, 2009, 06:45 AM
Is that the original slurry wall on the right side of your photo, RKOwens? Also, is the survivors' stairway in place?

bkzinho
September 9th, 2009, 01:43 PM
At 6:40 AM a new jumbo column is arriving on the site as we can see on the webcam.

Nomadd22
September 9th, 2009, 02:24 PM
At 6:40 AM a new jumbo column is arriving on the site as we can see on the webcam.

I'd wondered what they hauled those beasts on. I count six axles on the back. I guess the north erecting steel is high enough for the columns to attach to.
Does the tower crane assit with column placement?

chuck23
September 9th, 2009, 03:26 PM
No, not true. At some point it would be left behind in terms of density and relevance. True world class cities, like Tokyo, London and New York, are always building anew, staying ahead of the curve.
I certainly Agree!

RKOwens44
September 9th, 2009, 04:18 PM
Is that the original slurry wall on the right side of your photo, RKOwens? Also, is the survivors' stairway in place?

Yeah. And yeah, the survivors stairway is in place. I took some pics of it.

jereser
September 9th, 2009, 06:17 PM
goog photo de last one

Littlemob
September 9th, 2009, 06:21 PM
At 6:40 AM a new jumbo column is arriving on the site as we can see on the webcam.

I can still see the beam om the lorry at 9.55, maybe this explains why there's such a slow process. (and i believe the tower will shoot up when all the basement en ground floors are finished, I believe that's where the complexity is.)

C30
September 9th, 2009, 06:41 PM
I was expecting to see the placement of the column in HD, but instead the cam switched to transportation hub mode...

deez
September 9th, 2009, 07:10 PM
who is this coveted Joe Woolhead, other than a photographer? I don't get
it?

Viperfreak2
September 9th, 2009, 07:22 PM
Why is it so complicated to keep a camera pointed in the same direction? Day after day I like to check in to see the progress of 1WTC. Some days I see the same image because it is not updating, and today I see the hole where towers 2 and 3 may be built eventually. It doesn't seem like rocket science, or maybe it is?

Hightech Pro
September 9th, 2009, 07:25 PM
I always see a recent picture, never had problems with updating! But unfortunately the earthcam is pointing at the 2WTC pit at the moment.

adam-albany
September 9th, 2009, 09:15 PM
who is this coveted Joe Woolhead, other than a photographer? I don't get
it?Joe Woolhead is Silverstein Properties's official photographer for the World Trade Center site. As such, he has full access to everywhere in Ground Zero.

Druenos
September 9th, 2009, 09:32 PM
I can't believe this building is taking so long to build. You can leave this forum for six months and when you come back... it looks exactly the same as last time.

mindgoessnap
September 9th, 2009, 09:54 PM
I can't believe this building is taking so long to build. You can leave this forum for six months and when you come back... it looks exactly the same as last time.

Thank you Mr. Troll.:bash: Please go play in traffic while the rest of us get back on topic.

Athinaios
September 9th, 2009, 09:56 PM
The Earthcam is on good position again - and we can see a new jumbo column on its place! :cheers:

Iggmasta
September 9th, 2009, 10:12 PM
Thank you Mr. Troll.:bash: Please go play in traffic while the rest of us get back on topic.

haha hes right though this is slower then the second coming. Is there an expected completion date, or dates since this there are multiple buildings being built.

Viperfreak2
September 9th, 2009, 10:17 PM
That corner should go up very fast! BUT it looks like the west side needs huge amounts of concrete before the creeper crane platform can be set up.

jereser
September 10th, 2009, 12:44 AM
i dont like it too much

spectre000
September 10th, 2009, 01:20 AM
haha hes right though this is slower then the second coming. Is there an expected completion date, or dates since this there are multiple buildings being built.

There are dates, but we're talking about the PA here so I'd take anything they say with a grain of salt. The official(unofficial) completion date is 4Q 2013. But the PA has said that could go into 2014.

The tower is going up, one column at a time. That's all we can ask for.

Johnny Ryall
September 10th, 2009, 01:48 AM
I don't think a lot of people complaining about progress fully grasp the complex nature of this project. The sublevels, the subway, foundations for multiple supertall structures, sensitivity of traffic in the financial center & lower Manhattan, etc, etc all working in harmony. The sublevels & foundations of this incredible complex is a massive project unto itself. This is NEW YORK CITY. They'll get it done, don't worry.

Sentient Seas
September 10th, 2009, 05:03 AM
I don't think a lot of people complaining about progress fully grasp the complex nature of this project. The sublevels, the subway, foundations for multiple supertall structures, sensitivity of traffic in the financial center & lower Manhattan, etc, etc all working in harmony. The sublevels & foundations of this incredible complex is a massive project unto itself. This is NEW YORK CITY. They'll get it done, don't worry.

Well said.
When we finally start seeing it rise, it will be worth the wait anyways.

Littlemob
September 10th, 2009, 04:00 PM
yeah a new jumbo column is ready to be placed.

fast_fokker
September 10th, 2009, 05:29 PM
Thank you Mr. Troll.:bash: Please go play in traffic while the rest of us get back on topic.

Yeah well... You have not exactly repudiated his comments have you? I guess the truth hurts a tad... A bit sensitive are we? :lol:

bbtran72
September 10th, 2009, 05:36 PM
2nd perimeter beam on the NE is up..yeaahh baby...haha :banana:

christos-greece
September 10th, 2009, 08:21 PM
EarthCam is still not working

I was enter few minutes ago to upload and post a photo here but instead i got an error...

Hightech Pro
September 10th, 2009, 09:58 PM
The earthcam is working fine now, two jumbo columns at the northeast corner are already in place and connected to the core.

Edit: More floorplates on the southeast corner are being laid. I did not expect that to happen anytime soon...

Onn
September 10th, 2009, 11:50 PM
http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/161/gzrobotic10.jpg

bbtran72
September 11th, 2009, 12:41 AM
wow glad to see the decking started on the southeast corner..soo excited...:cucumber:

Hightech Pro
September 11th, 2009, 01:04 AM
Its really looking fat and not so slim anymore!

Onn
September 11th, 2009, 01:12 AM
Its really looking fat and not so slim anymore!

Yes, but just wait. yepole made this future render on Wired New York.

http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/6195/gzrobotic8.jpg

Uaarkson
September 11th, 2009, 01:13 AM
There's some circular thing on the south side of the memorial, is that another planter?

Onn
September 11th, 2009, 01:18 AM
^^
No, I believe that is for 9/11 commemoration tomorrow. They tied down big red at Freedom too, I don't think they will be working tomorrow.

Hightech Pro
September 11th, 2009, 01:21 AM
Yes, but just wait. yepole made this future render on Wired New York.

http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/6195/gzrobotic8.jpgI doubt, that we will see that columns this year, but watching this tower rise in 2010 will be amazing.

Onn
September 11th, 2009, 01:27 AM
I doubt, that we will see that columns this year, but watching this tower rise in 2010 will be amazing.

Depends if there is another crane coming to raise steel on the other side of the tower, or will they move the one they have now? Either way, the base is equally as large as the underground structure is, so I suspect it’s going to take some time to finish.

Uaarkson
September 11th, 2009, 01:44 AM
I bet we could see some of those columns by december.

jereser
September 11th, 2009, 02:16 AM
i cant believe it, is spectacular

spectre000
September 11th, 2009, 03:19 AM
I bet we could see some of those columns by december.

I bet you're right. At least on the east side of the tower. But I think they would need to add more steel on top of the south core to be able to anchor them to a floor.

TowerJunkie
September 11th, 2009, 01:11 PM
Eight years, and look at the progress....

Slowly but surely.

Desparye
September 11th, 2009, 01:44 PM
^^
No, I believe that is for 9/11 commemoration tomorrow. They tied down big red at Freedom too, I don't think they will be working tomorrow.

No, they aren't. The winds are pretty high and the weather is horrendous.

Nomadd22
September 11th, 2009, 02:35 PM
Great rendition Onn.
I'm guessing that from the lack of diagonals on the bottom level, that the relative shortness and immense thickness of those lower columns means there's no concievable way they'll ever fail, so they don't need to worry about redistributing the load.

Littlemob
September 11th, 2009, 04:45 PM
in this picture you can see the progress between 9-9 and 10-09 this is one day and you can see clear that a lot can be done in one day. Keep up this pace NY.http://i985.photobucket.com/albums/ae332/jonas_kalmeijer/WTC1.jpg

Hightech Pro
September 11th, 2009, 06:29 PM
I bet you're right. At least on the east side of the tower. But I think they would need to add more steel on top of the south core to be able to anchor them to a floor.
That is exactly the reason, why I doubt that to happen before 2010. There is only 3 and a half months left this year, dont forget that!

Viperfreak2
September 11th, 2009, 07:26 PM
Soon we won't be able to see the core from this angle.

christos-greece
September 11th, 2009, 08:24 PM
in this picture you can see the progress between 9-9 and 10-09 this is one day and you can see clear that a lot can be done in one day. Keep up this pace NY.
http://i985.photobucket.com/albums/ae332/jonas_kalmeijer/WTC1.jpg
You marked the yellow area in the first photo; in the sacond the yellow parts are in front of WTC1, outside of the u/c building... what is the difference?
That "area" its the north core, right?

HT
September 11th, 2009, 08:25 PM
Look at the red circle, all workers standing there around something, what are they doing ??

http://www3.pic-upload.de/11.09.09/qrs3feysp97.jpg (http://www.pic-upload.de/view-3070862/gzrobotic1.jpg.html)

Uaarkson
September 11th, 2009, 08:26 PM
It's a circle of remembrance. Those aren't workers, they're family and friends of the 9/11 victims who have to come to pay respect.

Metalus
September 11th, 2009, 08:45 PM
It's a circle of remembrance. Those aren't workers, they're family and friends of the 9/11 victims who have to come to pay respect.

Clearly not family and friends, if it was family and friends there would be thousands... not 40 or so in a spaced circle. Its obviously some type of ceremony but not strictly family and friends in a casual gathering.

backupcoolm4n
September 11th, 2009, 09:50 PM
Clearly not family and friends, if it was family and friends there would be thousands... not 40 or so in a spaced circle. Its obviously some type of ceremony but not strictly family and friends in a casual gathering.

come on bro are u that stupid? it is soldiers or something standing in a circle around it, and family members walk around the pool in front of the other people, they go throughout the day, they arent all going at one time, the thousands come in over a period of hours

HT
September 11th, 2009, 09:54 PM
So clear, I just should have check the date, now its obvious why they are there.

CrazyAboutCities
September 11th, 2009, 09:58 PM
Great process! I can't believe it is 8 years since 9/11 attacks... I am glad they're rebuilding it now... I am wondering what Ground Zero would look like next year for 9th anniversary of 9/11.

kon133
September 11th, 2009, 10:19 PM
Osiem lat temu 11 Września 2001 roku świat przeżył ogromny szok jak i dramat wydarzeniami w Stanach Zjednoczonych. Lecz my dziś szczególnie wspominamy tragedię jaka to dotknęła Nowy Jork, gdy to runęły obie wieże wspaniałego kompleksu World Trade Center. O godzinie 8:46 (14:46) rozpoczął się lokalny dramat, który ogarnął dolny Manhattan a później całe miasto. Lecz o godzinie 9:03 (15:03), gdy to South Tower zaczęła płonąć dramat ogarnął cały świat gdy to na oczach milionów ludzi na całym świecie wieża została zaatakowana. Kto by przypuszczał że może być coś gorszego od tych dwóch szokujących godzin, szokującego ataku. A jednak o 9:59 (15:59) niespodziewanie zapada się South Tower, kto by przypuszczał, że budynek ze stali jest w stanie się zawalić. Kulminacją całej "operacji" jak również ostatecznym końcem World Trade Center stała się godzina 10:28 (16:28), kiedy to najwyższy budynek w Nowym Jorku, symbol tego miasta upadł zgasła ostatnia iskra nadziei... Godzina 8:46 (14:46) jak również 10:28 (16:28) o krótki okres który to zmienił cały nasz współczesny świat, to okres w którym to pieniądze pokazały kto tu rządzi i kto ma władzę. 2973 osoby, tyle właśnie istnień kosztowało pokazanie kto tu rządzi, ale dlaczego takim kosztem ? pewnie nigdy się nie dowiemy co się właśnie stało w tym krótkim okresie czasu, który trwał 101 minut - tylko 101 minut.
Dziś jest dzień pamięci, dzień który nas zmienił, zmienił nasz spojrzenie na świat. O właśnie takich wydarzeniach jak 9/11 trzeba pamiętać i poszukiwać odpowiedzi dlaczego...

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/56/127765125_7339a2c394_b.jpg

5 Sierpnia 1966r - 23 Grudnia 1970r - 19 Lipca 1971 r - 4 Kwietnia 1973r - 26 Lutego 1993r - 11 Września 2001r


Eight years ago 11 September 2001, the world has experienced tremendous shock and drama of events in the United States. But today we particularly remember how the tragedy has struck New York City, where the two towers collapsed magnificent World Trade Center complex. At 8:46 (14:46) launched the local drama that engulfed lower Manhattan and then the whole city. But at 9:03 (15:03), when the South Tower began to sparkle tragedy engulfed the whole world where the sight of millions of people around the world, the tower was attacked. Who would have imagined that it could be something worse than those two hours shocking, shocking attack. But with 9:59 (15:59) suddenly collapses South Tower, who would believe that a building with steel is able to collapse. The culmination of the whole "operation" as well as the ultimate end of the World Trade Center has become the hour of 10:28 (16:28), when the tallest building in New York, the symbol of the city fell extinguished the last spark of hope ... Time 8:46 (14:46) and 10:28 (16:28) for a short period that it has changed our entire modern world, a period in which the money has shown who is in charge here, and who has authority. 2973 people, so many lives it cost just to show who is in charge here, but why such a cost? probably never know what just happened in that short period of time, which lasted 101 minutes - only 101 minutes.
Today is Memorial Day, the day that changed us, changed our world view. By the way such events as 9 / 11 you have to remember and to seek answers why ...

Onn
September 11th, 2009, 10:58 PM
World Trade Center construction progress check from CBS News:

http://www.megavideo.com/?v=4FZ1LJ3W

Littlemob
September 12th, 2009, 01:38 AM
World Trade Center construction progress check from CBS News:

http://www.comcast.net/video/rebuilding-ground-zero/1248653502/

Not viewable for people outside the US!!!

CrazyDave
September 12th, 2009, 01:52 AM
This is the second slowest Tower Construction in the World. Glad to see the pace has picked up though.
:banana:

stewartrama
September 12th, 2009, 02:08 AM
This is the second slowest Tower Construction in the World. Glad to see the pace has picked up though.
:banana:

whats the first?

Yorkshire Boy
September 12th, 2009, 02:30 AM
This is the second slowest Tower Construction in the World. Glad to see the pace has picked up though.
:banana:

*SIGH* Lord.. when will it end.. :bash:

SJM
September 12th, 2009, 02:52 AM
The video said tower 4 completion, 2014. Tower 2, 2015, Tower 3 2016. Boy we got some waiting to do :)

TXSkyWatcher
September 12th, 2009, 03:17 AM
*SIGH* Lord.. when will it end.. :bash:

^^I agree....never I suppose cause I figgered it out. They never read the other posts. Not the ones before or the ones after they post. They don't get instant email updates like all us addicts do. They are basically trolls who sift through once in a blue moon and toss a wrench into the continuity of the thread. I bet 80% of 'em never know we are bashing their brains out in print....tragic isn't it?

:nuts::nuts::nuts::nuts:

adam-albany
September 12th, 2009, 08:04 AM
Not viewable for people outside the US!!!I found it on Megavideo:
http://www.megavideo.com/?v=4FZ1LJ3W

Click on the red circle, close the ad that pops up, and click the green circle to play.

Buyckske Ruben
September 12th, 2009, 11:15 AM
New 9/11 museum images released !!!

http://www.worldarchitecturenews.com/index.php?fuseaction=wanappln.projectview&upload_id=12365

Littlemob
September 12th, 2009, 12:14 PM
New 9/11 museum images released !!!

http://www.worldarchitecturenews.com/index.php?fuseaction=wanappln.projectview&upload_id=12365

thanks nice report.

christos-greece
September 12th, 2009, 12:21 PM
Clearly not family and friends, if it was family and friends there would be thousands... not 40 or so in a spaced circle. Its obviously some type of ceremony but not strictly family and friends in a casual gathering.
It is somekind of ceremony indeed; those guys represent police or fire-depaertments of NYC?

Joachim
September 12th, 2009, 12:40 PM
Nice photo of the construction site from boston.com, taken last friday

http://inapcache.boston.com/universal/site_graphics/blogs/bigpicture/sep1109_09_11/s23_20303907.jpg

hocnhieu
September 12th, 2009, 02:20 PM
When I saw the 119 video clip on the first time, I through it's a Hollywood product. It's very horrible.

Msradell
September 12th, 2009, 02:59 PM
The video said tower 4 completion, 2014. Tower 2, 2015, Tower 3 2016. Boy we got some waiting to do :)
:lol: That shows how much research the network news departments do before they publish a story! Considering towers 2 & 3 haven't even arrange financing yet, there already setting finished dates? If they had done a little research they would have seen that they would have been better off discussing whether they would get built, not when. :bash:

King of Construction
September 12th, 2009, 03:15 PM
This is the second slowest Tower Construction in the World. Glad to see the pace has picked up though.
:banana:

Slowest is Ryugyong in North Korea?

Hightech Pro
September 12th, 2009, 03:28 PM
Hm, wait, if you count buildings which have been on hold over several years, the SWFC is also in the race!

buildmilehightower
September 12th, 2009, 06:10 PM
I saw this documentary called '9/11' on TV which was reconstruction of the event with real testamonies. This guy survived plane crash while he was in the exact floor where the plane struck in the south tower. Quite surprising.

Hightech Pro
September 12th, 2009, 06:11 PM
I saw this documentary called '9/11' on TV which was reconstruction of the event with real testamonies. This guy survived plane crash while he was in the exact floor where the plane struck in the south tower. Quite surprising.He was just lucky enough to be on the other side...

Onn
September 12th, 2009, 06:47 PM
WTC.com, September 2009:

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/117169788/original.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/117169788/large.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/117169822/large.jpg

RKOwens44
September 12th, 2009, 06:48 PM
I posted a lot of pictures from my visit to 1WTC on the Wired New York forum, but I can't figure out how to copy and paste the post with all the URLs and stuff, so here's a link to the pictures...

http://www.wirednewyork.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3672&page=429

CrazyDave
September 12th, 2009, 06:58 PM
Slowest is Ryugyong in North Korea?

Yes - That is correct !!!!

adam-albany
September 12th, 2009, 07:18 PM
Great shots, Onn, especially the first one. Thanks for sharing!

CrazyAboutCities
September 12th, 2009, 07:23 PM
I posted a lot of pictures from my visit to 1WTC on the Wired New York forum, but I can't figure out how to copy and paste the post with all the URLs and stuff, so here's a link to the pictures...

http://www.wirednewyork.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3672&page=429

That's awesome close up construction pictures!!! Thanks for sharing!

By the way, you can sign up on Photobucket and load the pictures there then copy the IMG link and paste it here. It will shows your pictures here.

Onn
September 12th, 2009, 07:31 PM
I posted a lot of pictures from my visit to 1WTC on the Wired New York forum, but I can't figure out how to copy and paste the post with all the URLs and stuff, so here's a link to the pictures...

http://www.wirednewyork.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3672&page=429

Very cool! It's nice to see the site so busy at night, definitely a huge plus. I'm sure from the ground and in person 1WTC looks 10x larger. Great pics. :cheers:

adam-albany
September 12th, 2009, 08:01 PM
Love your pictures too, RKOwens!

Is the Earthcam down for anyone else? It just sits there refreshing forever.

Athinaios
September 12th, 2009, 08:29 PM
Is the Earthcam down for anyone else? It just sits there refreshing forever.
Yes, unfortunately. The weather right now is very bad, it's been raining for 2 days and it's windy.

friendsofthecity
September 12th, 2009, 09:03 PM
Yes, unfortunately. The weather right now is very bad, it's been raining for 2 days and it's windy.I agree it was windy.Yet,I commend the effort of the president,vice and the families of those who lost their loved ones for embracing the occassion.

RKOwens44
September 12th, 2009, 11:47 PM
Very cool! It's nice to see the site so busy at night, definitely a huge plus. I'm sure from the ground and in person 1WTC looks 10x larger. Great pics. :cheers:

It definitely does! I was also surprised standing in the North Tower pool how big the pool is going to be. The webcams and renderings don't do it justice. It'll really be something when it's completed, with the waterfalls and everything.

Onn
September 13th, 2009, 02:34 AM
It definitely does! I was also surprised standing in the North Tower pool how big the pool is going to be. The webcams and renderings don't do it justice. It'll really be something when it's completed, with the waterfalls and everything.

Nice, I'm very excited to come visit when it's all finished.

S.T.Y AP
September 13th, 2009, 04:14 AM
I hope it ready quickly.

metsfan
September 13th, 2009, 08:20 PM
It's made a bit of progress since the last time i checked in, but honestly 4wtc is making more progress.

- A

spectre000
September 13th, 2009, 08:51 PM
It's made a bit of progress since the last time i checked in, but honestly 4wtc is making more progress.

- A

4WTC has been u/c for just under 1 year and it's nearly completely built to grade. 1WTC has been u/c for 3 1/2 years and it's only 105 feet above street level. I predict both towers will be somewhere around 300-400 feet high by the next anniversary. Same height but very different circumstances.

adam-albany
September 13th, 2009, 08:55 PM
4WTC has been u/c for just under 1 year and it's nearly completely built to grade. 1WTC has been u/c for 3 1/2 years and it's only 105 feet above street level. I predict both towers will be somewhere around 300-400 feet high by the next anniversary. Same height but very different circumstances.4WTC had a completely open site to work with, unobstructed by any of the other projects on the site. 1WTC is being built over an operational commuter rail running 24/7. That's a huge difference in circumstances.

mr impossible
September 13th, 2009, 08:56 PM
I heard that WTC site won't be completed at least towards 2018, is that true?

Uaarkson
September 13th, 2009, 09:30 PM
nope

metsfan
September 14th, 2009, 03:51 AM
I understand the situation of the building site. Being a rail historian i think this construction is somewhat unremarkable compared to the first one when the tubes were suspended by cables from braces and the terminal was relocated from under the hudson terminal buildings to where they are now.

I think once the base is complete it will speed up a bit, but until the platforms are covered by permanent structure it may be slow going since they wil not be protected in the event of something falling.

- A

spectre000
September 14th, 2009, 04:09 AM
I understand the situation of the building site. Being a rail historian i think this construction is somewhat unremarkable compared to the first one when the tubes were suspended by cables from braces and the terminal was relocated from under the hudson terminal buildings to where they are now.

I think once the base is complete it will speed up a bit, but until the platforms are covered by permanent structure it may be slow going since they wil not be protected in the event of something falling.

- A

They really need to get the west plaza finished. Once they have two of the big red cranes working simultaneously things should theoretically speed up. To me it's just laughable that some forum members think 1 perimeter column a day, a little steel around the cores, and a couple floor plates is "great" daily progress. If they're ever to build an entire 40,000 square foot floor a week then we need to see much more done on a given day.

metsfan
September 14th, 2009, 04:19 AM
It will be like the washington monument... ;)

- A

spectre000
September 14th, 2009, 04:47 AM
It will be like the washington monument... ;)

- A

The top floors are 145'x145' which is 21,000 square feet, so even those are pretty big. Also you need to take into account that's over a thousand feet up, so it'll take longer to transport materials up that high. A floor a week is going to be tough. More likely two or even three weeks.

Zollern
September 14th, 2009, 05:42 AM
Also keep in mind they are currently working on the massively reinforced base floors and structural support columns that will bear the weight of the tower. Once they get past this stage the floorprint of the standard office floors will be largely (although not exactly) the same and at the same time the concrete core will be able to rise smoothly. It will be a much faster process compared to what we are seeing now.
If there is one thing this project has taught us, it's patience.

Viperfreak2
September 14th, 2009, 03:53 PM
The Earthcam sux. I understand wind and rain. I also do not believe the camera is a simple unit like something that sits on top of an indoor computer...lol. How about a high def camera that sits inside a steel box with a plexiglass cover on the front? You know something that can broadcast a picture 24/7/365 with no major failures? How many times in the last month has this thing: 1) pointed at dirt 2) no updates, the same picture all day or 3) today, blank.

Can someone please xplain why it is so difficult???

meh_cd
September 14th, 2009, 04:06 PM
The Earthcam sux. I understand wind and rain. I also do not believe the camera is a simple unit like something that sits on top of an indoor computer...lol. How about a high def camera that sits inside a steel box with a plexiglass cover on the front? You know something that can broadcast a picture 24/7/365 with no major failures? How many times in the last month has this thing: 1) pointed at dirt 2) no updates, the same picture all day or 3) today, blank.

Can someone please xplain why it is so difficult???

It looks like a security camera; it isn't a simple at home webcam.

econ_tim
September 14th, 2009, 05:05 PM
http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/549/sept14.png

not all webcams are down

new column up today

friendsofthecity
September 14th, 2009, 05:45 PM
Livecam cam1 is on @ http://www.earthcam.com/usa/newyork/groundzero/ . It's perfectly clear.

Viperfreak2
September 14th, 2009, 06:22 PM
Linky no worky. Just shows a couple rows of blue bars, like it's trying to load something.

metsfan
September 14th, 2009, 10:43 PM
Wow, looking at those base columns, this building is going to be huge...

- A

Hightech Pro
September 15th, 2009, 01:42 AM
The high def cam shows an old picture now... :ohno:

Thx for the pic!

Onn
September 15th, 2009, 04:27 AM
Large concrete pour on the Western Plaza sometime in the last two days!

September 14th:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3503/3919709993_f5924bdd6e_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/morrongiello/3919709993/sizes/l/

Onn
September 15th, 2009, 04:29 AM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3493/3919858595_d28b34d1b1_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3507/3920607534_65e15eff8a_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/michaelputman/3919858595/sizes/l/

Msradell
September 15th, 2009, 04:31 AM
Wow, looking at those base columns, this building is going to be huge...
- A
Not huge, just very strong! This building is the most over designed building ever built. Of course because of this is also one of the most expensive, if not the most expensive building ever built if you consider the cost per square foot.

Onn
September 15th, 2009, 04:46 AM
Not huge, just very strong! This building is the most over designed building ever built. Of course because of this is also one of the most expensive, if not the most expensive building ever built if you consider the cost per square foot.

It's a pretty big building, at its roof Freedom Tower should be ticker than any other skyscraper out there.

metsfan
September 15th, 2009, 05:16 AM
It will cast a long shadow. :)

- A

kingsc
September 15th, 2009, 08:49 PM
looks like there really put in work I'm so happy I'm able to watch this thing get built wit my own eyes

SkyBox036
September 15th, 2009, 09:34 PM
From Boston.com, the Big Picture. (Remembering 9/11).
Pics taken 8 and 11 September.

http://inapcache.boston.com/universal/site_graphics/blogs/bigpicture/sep1109_09_11/s19_20265769.jpg

http://inapcache.boston.com/universal/site_graphics/blogs/bigpicture/sep1109_09_11/s18_20266431.jpg

http://inapcache.boston.com/universal/site_graphics/blogs/bigpicture/sep1109_09_11/s34_20305415.jpg

(Posted before: )
http://inapcache.boston.com/universal/site_graphics/blogs/bigpicture/sep1109_09_11/s23_20303907.jpg

Source (http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2009/09/remembering_september_11th.html) (Click for more (stunning) pics)

Sorry if posted before.

texdago
September 15th, 2009, 09:54 PM
Ok, I've got a question here. Do not shoot pls. Why the column at the corner leans on one side? Is this cuz is not yet completely connected or there is some "structural "explanation? Thanks!

meh_cd
September 15th, 2009, 10:12 PM
Ok, I've got a question here. Do not shoot pls. Why the column at the corner leans on one side? Is this cuz is not yet completely connected or there is some "structural "explanation? Thanks!

Look at the renders.

Kurtin
September 15th, 2009, 10:12 PM
What will ever come with 200 Greenwich Street Tower 2 and 175 Greenwich Street Tower 3, at this moment in time. Stumps? Holes? or up for different proposal designs?

Viperfreak2
September 15th, 2009, 10:34 PM
Look at the renders.
http://static.flickr.com/77/202631900_047ba88411_o.jpg

unlinked
September 15th, 2009, 10:56 PM
HD cam working again:)

Onn
September 15th, 2009, 10:57 PM
Ok, I've got a question here. Do not shoot pls. Why the column at the corner leans on one side? Is this cuz is not yet completely connected or there is some "structural "explanation? Thanks!

The edges of the base of the tower slant inward, and so does the steel underneath.

Uaarkson
September 16th, 2009, 01:28 AM
What will ever come with 200 Greenwich Street Tower 2 and 175 Greenwich Street Tower 3, at this moment in time. Stumps? Holes? or up for different proposal designs?

They'll get built, but the way things look right now it may not be for a while. By the time stumps even come close to being a reality there should be funds floating around to complete the towers.

BiggieSmalls
September 16th, 2009, 01:42 AM
Isnt some clock ticking on SPI to start the infrastructure work they were contracted to do by the PA?

IIRC PA gave them a contract to build out the sub grade infrastructure where 2/3 pits are as there will be services there that are part of site infrastructure.

spectre000
September 16th, 2009, 01:50 AM
Isnt some clock ticking on SPI to start the infrastructure work they were contracted to do by the PA?

IIRC PA gave them a contract to build out the sub grade infrastructure where 2/3 pits are as there will be services there that are part of site infrastructure.

The below grade works are nearly finished on 4WTC, so it will be interesting to see if they (PA/SP) continue to build out into 3WTC's footprint. The Calatrava Hub is supported by 2 and 3WTC and they are nearly finished removing the last of the old H&M station. We'll see what happens in the next few months.

metsfan
September 16th, 2009, 02:52 AM
I hope they photograph everything down there on the former H&M site. It is a very important piece of history.

- A

micrip
September 16th, 2009, 07:42 AM
I'm lost here. What was the "H&M" station?

kingsc
September 16th, 2009, 08:24 AM
theres a train in there I didnt know there was up and running.

texdago
September 16th, 2009, 09:58 AM
The edges of the base of the tower slant inward, and so does the steel underneath.

OPS! :nuts:

thanks!

adam-albany
September 16th, 2009, 02:58 PM
I'm lost here. What was the "H&M" station?The Hudson & Manhattan Railroad. It was an old privately-run subway that preceded PATH service. H&M went essentially bankrupt in the 1950's, and the Port Authority agreed to take over service in exchange for the land occupied by H&M's Hudson terminal -- the land on which the World Trade Center was built.

YZBot
September 16th, 2009, 04:52 PM
I see another large beam on a truck with a blue cab just to the side of the red crane. It looks different from the others in that it has no cross on the top. Seems just a tad bit shorter than the others that went up. I wonder where they plan on putting it?

uakoops
September 16th, 2009, 04:55 PM
I see another large beam on a truck with a blue cab just to the side of the red crane. It looks different from the others in that it has no cross on the top. Seems just a tad bit shorter than the others that went up. I wonder where they plan on putting it?

Thats one of the columns that goes closest to the middle of each face. They are the thickest and heaviest ones, and the connector piece on top is huge as well. So they are put up separately. The connector should be delivered this afternoon.

YZBot
September 16th, 2009, 07:42 PM
Thats one of the columns that goes closest to the middle of each face. They are the thickest and heaviest ones, and the connector piece on top is huge as well. So they are put up separately. The connector should be delivered this afternoon.

Ah, spot on. I even see the connector piece on another truck now. I see just how large it is compared to the truck. Once they are installed they don't look all that large when compared to the jobsite. Everything is so large that getting an idea of the actual size is difficult from pictures.

pmb
September 16th, 2009, 08:08 PM
From Boston.com, the Big Picture. (Remembering 9/11).
Pics taken 8 and 11 September.

Sorry if posted before.

WOW!! Stunning pics
Thanx SkyBox036

Onn
September 17th, 2009, 12:27 AM
More steel on top of the north core!

http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/1741/gzrobotic1.jpg

Nomadd22
September 17th, 2009, 01:42 AM
Little more recent.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/117363517/original.jpg

Hightech Pro
September 17th, 2009, 02:32 AM
They will have to change the formwork for the core, once they reach the lobby's ceiling, I can see no way how they could overcome that steel beams for the first floor in the southwest corner.

Or maybe they are reinstalling them above the floorplates? Anyway thats a weird construction schedule, because the concrete comes last.


BTW: North core steel looks complete now.

Basincreek
September 17th, 2009, 02:53 AM
Ok, I've got a question here. Do not shoot pls. Why the column at the corner leans on one side? Is this cuz is not yet completely connected or there is some "structural "explanation? Thanks!

The base has chamfered corners so the "lean" is deliberate and permanent.

What will ever come with 200 Greenwich Street Tower 2 and 175 Greenwich Street Tower 3, at this moment in time. Stumps? Holes? or up for different proposal designs?

Tower 2 is definitely gonna happen, even the Port Authority is willing to help with it. Tower 3 is a bit sticky. My own bet is that it will happen as designed since the financial sector, which has badly over-contracted out of panic, will need to re-expand in the near future to meet demand and Tower 3 was always designed to accommodate a large financial firm.

Basincreek
September 17th, 2009, 03:03 AM
I'm lost here. What was the "H&M" station?

To expand a bit here. The tunnels used by PATH today were originally built for the H&M. The tracks ran across what is now the WTC site and terminated in a loop station where Tower 3 and the new PATH hub will go. When they built the WTC they built a new train station in the middle of the site and cut off the old H&M terminal which was demolished above ground with the below ground infrastructure remaining which was boarded off and occasionally used as storage.

NYCD
September 17th, 2009, 03:42 AM
Pics I took today! :D

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t263/DKNY617/IMG_0546.jpg
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t263/DKNY617/IMG_0547.jpg
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t263/DKNY617/IMG_0548.jpg
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t263/DKNY617/IMG_0549.jpg

Onn
September 17th, 2009, 03:53 AM
Wow, those are some Grade A pictures! Very nice, now we’re really starting to see the size of this tower.

:eek2:

Uaarkson
September 17th, 2009, 03:57 AM
Sweet jesus those are the most massive steel beams I've seen in my life.

Marco Polo
September 17th, 2009, 04:04 AM
holy ravioli - this is massive!!!!

NYCD
September 17th, 2009, 04:10 AM
They are quite massive in person lol. I wasn't the only one's taking pictures, lucky they had the small fence open. :D

In the second picture, around the middle, you can see the helmet of one of the workers fastening a bolt or whatever its called lol. They were doing metal work still around 5:30pm when I was there. :D

PDC1987
September 17th, 2009, 04:17 AM
So I take it now it will start rising at a decent (all things considered) pace?

spectre000
September 17th, 2009, 08:52 AM
So I take it now it will start rising at a decent (all things considered) pace?

Wouldn't that be nice. With the added steel on the north core, maybe we'll see the crane jump again soon. I don't believe the next level of perimeter columns can go in until they add more steel above the cores. Also we've still gotta wait for the west plaza level to finish.

But it is nice to see the full size of this tower finally become visible.

spectre000
September 17th, 2009, 09:14 AM
Also, rumor (from WNY) has it, the next crane will be a Manitowoc 18000 (even bigger than the east sides crane) and could arrive by the end of next week.

micrip
September 17th, 2009, 09:44 AM
Sweet jesus those are the most massive steel beams I've seen in my life.

Not an engineer here...those massive outer beams are going to be supporting most of the weight of the building, right?

Nomadd22
September 17th, 2009, 12:04 PM
Not an engineer here...those massive outer beams are going to be supporting most of the weight of the building, right?

On a good day the core will support most of the weight. But, on a bad day, as in an earthquake, hurricane, collision, or anything else that moves the building, the columns need to be able to take the weight.

bbtran72
September 17th, 2009, 04:28 PM
they are massive but they are nothing compare to the jumbo collums... p.s jumbo columns are twice as tall or a lil more

wise_zech
September 17th, 2009, 04:37 PM
really nice

Nomadd22
September 17th, 2009, 04:50 PM
Also, rumor (from WNY) has it, the next crane will be a Manitowoc 18000 (even bigger than the east sides crane) and could arrive by the end of next week.

That's a 660 ton beast. I wonder what they'd need that for.
Maybe Chris Christie is coming to visit.

woodystill
September 17th, 2009, 07:31 PM
Great to see the corner almost done, looks like a big pour on the west side today, just cant quite tell from the web cam. (Lots of concrete trucks there this morning)

Viperfreak2
September 17th, 2009, 08:56 PM
The final vertical column on the east side has been sitting on a truck all day. Or is the webcam frozen again?

Desparye
September 17th, 2009, 09:48 PM
The final vertical column on the east side has been sitting on a truck all day. Or is the webcam frozen again?

Pretty sure it froze again. Unless buses are suddenly allowed to be parked on the highway.

Edit: Nevermind. Scene changed, lol.

Uaarkson
September 17th, 2009, 10:12 PM
Pretty sure it froze again. Unless buses are suddenly allowed to be parked on the highway.

Edit: Nevermind. Scene changed, lol.

Why would the buses be moving? It's a still picture.

Desparye
September 17th, 2009, 10:15 PM
Why would the buses be moving? It's a still picture.

I meant that they were there for over fifteen minutes, lol. Camera usually refreshes after a few.

spectre000
September 18th, 2009, 01:59 AM
The final vertical column on the east side has been sitting on a truck all day. Or is the webcam frozen again?

That column is the spandrel beam that will link the SE and NE corners. Their was rain today, so they halted crane work.

webeagle12
September 18th, 2009, 02:10 AM
That column is the spandrel beam that will link the SE and NE corners. Their was rain today, so they halted crane work.

and once again, look on a damn cam and you will see that it`s frozen :bash:

spectre000
September 18th, 2009, 02:21 AM
The webcam sites must be getting way too much traffic these days. Very annoying.

Acer1
September 18th, 2009, 04:25 AM
The webcam sites must be getting way too much traffic these days. Very annoying.

Yes because more visible stuff is getting done on a daily basis now.

deez
September 18th, 2009, 05:43 AM
it didn't rain here today, by the way--so any delays weren't because of weather.

spectre000
September 18th, 2009, 07:31 AM
it didn't rain here today, by the way--so any delays weren't because of weather.

SSP and WNY forumers said there was rain. I'm sure even a high percentage threat of rain would make OSHA nervous about having these cranes hauling steel thru the air though.

Also, WNY forum reports the 18000 crane has been inspected and is ready to be shipped over to the WTC from Kearny, NJ. Hopefully it'll be there next week.

Uaarkson
September 18th, 2009, 07:53 AM
There was definitely rain earlier today, I saw it on the webcam

bbtran72
September 18th, 2009, 05:24 PM
woahhhh what r they doing to big red..looks like they are disassembling her?:dunno:

Ganis
September 18th, 2009, 05:29 PM
Hey, we can start to make out a part of the building!

woodystill
September 18th, 2009, 05:53 PM
Dissmantilling? I think not! Looks as though that steel on back of tractor is about to rise from big red though.

deez
September 18th, 2009, 06:33 PM
There was definitely rain earlier today, I saw it on the webcam

ok. weather.com says precipitation for yesterday is 0.00--
fine, it may have lightly drizzled for a few minutes, but my point is, if that type of 'weather' is enough to slow progress, that's kind of crazy. It's bright and sunny now outside and that beam still sits, so maybe it didn't have anything to do with weather.

RealVooDoo
September 18th, 2009, 07:09 PM
Are you sure it's the same beam? Doesn't look like they're slowing down, compare to 2 days ago
More steel on top of the north core!

http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/1741/gzrobotic1.jpg

They add even more steel on the core and there's a new beam behind the big red crane and an horizontal beam on the right of it

http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/5314/freedomtower18set09.png (http://img43.imageshack.us/i/freedomtower18set09.png/)

uakoops
September 18th, 2009, 07:13 PM
ok. weather.com says precipitation for yesterday is 0.00--
fine, it may have lightly drizzled for a few minutes, but my point is, if that type of 'weather' is enough to slow progress, that's kind of crazy. It's bright and sunny now outside and that beam still sits, so maybe it didn't have anything to do with weather.

Official National Weather Service Precipitation totals for yesterday:

Central Park - 0.01
LaGuardia Airport - 0.01
JFK Airport - 0.01
Newark Airport - 0.03

I see that they delivered the last of the columns for the NE corner, Big Red took it off the truck and laid it on the floor. Meanwhile the big spandrel beam is still sitting on the truck on Vesey Street. I wonder if they need to put up the column first to stabilize the corner before the beam goes up?

deez
September 18th, 2009, 08:17 PM
Official National Weather Service Precipitation totals for yesterday:

Central Park - 0.01
LaGuardia Airport - 0.01
JFK Airport - 0.01
Newark Airport - 0.03



wow. my point is that 'Central Park - 0.01', that 10 minute mist we had yesterday, had nothing to do with whether or not that piece of steel, which still sits in the sun, went up or not

Finally seeing some decent progress, but still too quick to blurt out excuses. ......uhhh....complexity underground!......uhhh....the MTA!......uhhh...they had to do a redesign 4 years ago.....uhhh, what else...OSHA! rain! yeah, that's the ticket!

Viperfreak2
September 18th, 2009, 08:25 PM
The center beam above the Northeast and Southeast sections is hanging in the air, about to be installed! Hope it fits.

It doesn't look as big as I thought it would be, being such a long area to span.

bbtran72
September 18th, 2009, 08:42 PM
and it fits...wow that is a long span

iamtal
September 18th, 2009, 10:56 PM
08-25-2009:
http://i35.tinypic.com/72vw2t.jpg

Today:
http://i35.tinypic.com/rw8acm.jpg

Onn
September 18th, 2009, 11:22 PM
^^
We have a doorway! :cheers:

Uaarkson
September 19th, 2009, 12:07 AM
08-25-2009:
http://i35.tinypic.com/72vw2t.jpg

Today:
http://i35.tinypic.com/rw8acm.jpg

Fuck yes.

SJM
September 19th, 2009, 12:07 AM
Looks like flooring is being installed for the upper level. Sweet progress.

spectre000
September 19th, 2009, 01:19 AM
A year from now we can expect to see the first glass installed. Try imagining that!

kingsc
September 19th, 2009, 04:26 AM
This great hmmm whats up wit all da damn blows whatever. No tell how far along this thing will by this time next year.

Coinpeace
September 19th, 2009, 11:02 AM
This seems to be the fastest rising supertall to me at this very moment

C30
September 19th, 2009, 11:17 AM
Both cams are completely frozen.
Does anybody know if the 12th jumbo column along with the connector was installed or not?

There is also a great probability of SW Memorial steel installation starting this weekend, but unfortunately you can't see anything at the moment:wallbash:

christos-greece
September 19th, 2009, 12:29 PM
http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/5314/freedomtower18set09.png
Looks like flooring is being installed for the upper level. Sweet progress.
If you are talking about that grey floor, yes indeed

unlinked
September 19th, 2009, 03:01 PM
Both cams are completely frozen.
Does anybody know if the 12th jumbo column along with the connector was installed or not?

There is also a great probability of SW Memorial steel installation starting this weekend, but unfortunately you can't see anything at the moment:wallbash:

With the view from the video cam the answer is no

http://www.earthcam.com/swf/cam_player/enlarge_image.php?type=live&path=http://63.229.55.21/ec_metros/ourcams/milleniumhilton1.jpg&name=World%20Trade%20Center%20&width=640&height=480&img_width=320&img_height=240


Thanks for the memorial info:)

Hightech Pro
September 19th, 2009, 03:23 PM
Did they pour the west side plaza of the tower yet? Does anyone have any recent pics of it?

the man from k-town
September 19th, 2009, 03:43 PM
great.

C30
September 19th, 2009, 04:38 PM
With the view from the video cam the answer is no

http://www.earthcam.com/swf/cam_player/enlarge_image.php?type=live&path=http://63.229.55.21/ec_metros/ourcams/milleniumhilton1.jpg&name=World%20Trade%20Center%20&width=640&height=480&img_width=320&img_height=240


Thanks for the memorial info:)

I thought it was a bit hard to make it out from that view, but I think you may be right.

Also, I'm not completely sure about the memorial part, but as the PA has stated that work will start in Q3 2009, initially only during weekends, and looking at the other lo-def cam, a crane seems to have been installed on the platform put up yesterday, it might be true.

Onn
September 19th, 2009, 05:21 PM
Did they pour the west side plaza of the tower yet? Does anyone have any recent pics of it?

Actually yes, I'm about to post them right now!

ZippyTheChimp, Wired New York, September 18th.

http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/6325/wtc31c.jpg

http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/7240/wtc32c.jpg

http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/4371/wtc33c.jpg

http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/9798/wtc35c.jpg

http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/5769/wtc36c.jpg

http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/5998/wtc28c.jpg

spectre000
September 19th, 2009, 08:10 PM
They've also begun contstructing the plank road over the west plaza as well.

buildmilehightower
September 19th, 2009, 09:41 PM
I remember watching a video of FT construction site where this worker walked across horizontal beam which was about 15m in the air and the guy had no safety rope on him. Isn;t this law breaking?

Onn
September 20th, 2009, 12:26 AM
They're getting ready for the crane on the west side now. :)

http://wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=7589&d=1253370310
http://wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=7589&d=1253370310

punk_oi
September 20th, 2009, 12:28 AM
lots of progress

CNTower246810
September 20th, 2009, 12:36 AM
So amazing i cant wait until the put the Cladding!

Onn
September 20th, 2009, 01:22 AM
Zen also said this is apparently a Skylight, and it's going to go under the west plaza level fountain.

http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/7240/wtc32c.jpg

Coinpeace
September 20th, 2009, 01:36 AM
hah its like they just randomly put 1 peice of cladding on the building, just 4 the look of it :P and they clean it everyday

Zensteeldude
September 20th, 2009, 03:55 AM
What Onn says is fact, straight from the prints.

Thought this might help some folks understand what's up so far.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/35124796@N04/3935120605/

kon133
September 20th, 2009, 11:46 AM
Po zachodniej stronie Freedom Tower formowany jest obecnie "poziom ulicy" jak i Lobby budynku. Właśnie po zachodniej części ulicy za niedługo stanie kolejny żuraw gąsienicowy dlatego prace betonowe nabrały w tamtym rejonie tempa. Obecnie jest w miejscach już zabetonowanych platforma na której za tydzień lub dwa wjedzie kolejny żuraw. W okolice Ground Zero powoli są zwożone części składowe żurawia. Jego zadaniem będzie zainstalowanie kolumn nośnych elewacji Freedom Tower jak po jej wschodniej stronie. Widać że prace powoli przyspieszają, a na dobre przyśpieszą gdy będzie już gotowe całe pudło podbudówki konstrukcji właściwej wieży. A co do żurawia po wschodniej stronie, zostanie on tam jeszcze na długi czas gdyż zajmie się on montażem kolejnych kolumn elewacji od strony wschodniej oraz może w przyszłości rozbiórką obecnego terminala PATH.

Freedom Tower:

http://wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=7597&d=1253378190

http://wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=7590&d=1253370324

http://wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=7589&d=1253370310

http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/2144/wtc40c.jpg

http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/528/wtc39c.jpg

http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/8978/wtc38c.jpg

http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/4360/wtc37c.jpg

On the west side of the Freedom Tower is formed out of "street level" and the Lobby of the building. It was the western part of the street will soon be another crane, concrete work, therefore, have gained momentum in that area. He is currently in place already zabetonowanych platform on which a week or two of entering another crane. In around Ground Zero are slowly zwożone components of the crane. His task will be to install a load-bearing columns of the facade on the Freedom Tower as its eastern side. You can see that the work is slowly accelerating, and at a good speed-up will be ready when the whole box podbudówki proper construction of the tower. And as for the crane on the east side, it will be there for a long time because it will be editing more columns from the east elevation and may in the future demolition of the existing PATH terminal.

christos-greece
September 20th, 2009, 12:48 PM
http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/5769/wtc36c.jpg
http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/2144/wtc40c.jpg
That platform in second quoted pic, its temporary? If its temporary, what is the purpose for that?

oli83
September 20th, 2009, 01:17 PM
they will install a second crane here, similar to the one on the eastern side, which puts up the jumbo columns on this side. so of course it is only temporary.

twilight_2008
September 20th, 2009, 03:37 PM
I thought there was going to be a third tower crane? Where and when will this be erected? :)

Hightech Pro
September 20th, 2009, 03:54 PM
Thanks for the update Onn, seems a little tight for the crawler. Do you think they will put the crane on the small platform, already installed, before the rest of the plaza is actually finished?

BiggieSmalls
September 20th, 2009, 05:01 PM
that crane is a BEAST!!

While it is cabable of crawling with those outriggers I dont think it is going anywhere.

Its big enough to reach all around T1 and the south/north plaza.

oli83
September 20th, 2009, 05:06 PM
Thanks for the update Onn, seems a little tight for the crawler. Do you think they will put the crane on the small platform, already installed, before the rest of the plaza is actually finished?

I think this won't be possible, because for the other manitowoc crane they needed a (even more temporary) ramp to get the crane on the platform. Probably that will be the case here as well. Also the platform would be really tiny for the big crane by now. So I think we have to wait some more days, until the rest of west plaza is poured before we can see the second huge crawler.

Onn
September 20th, 2009, 05:23 PM
RoldanTTLB, SSP:

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_3T08TVQ0h2g/SrO66cIEBeI/AAAAAAAADVM/cDYA7bs51lU/s800/DSC02156.JPG

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_3T08TVQ0h2g/SrO67VLENMI/AAAAAAAADVQ/dpBlX7WrIPU/s800/DSC02157.JPG

webeagle12
September 20th, 2009, 06:51 PM
and again camera frozed up in a middle of the action. woopy do :ohno:

I really want to see how our biggest boy on a site will malke out in such a small area

spectre000
September 20th, 2009, 07:37 PM
The 18000 crane has arrived at the west plaza. You can check it out on this webcam, hurry before we all overload the servers and freeze this one. :)

http://howtodaylooksgroundzero.blogspot.com/

Zensteeldude
September 20th, 2009, 07:53 PM
"Spy footage" of the 18000 set up at the Lomma yard in South Kearny,NJ.

It was shot from the Pulaski Skyway through the guard rail.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8dThChE7rM


Notice it has no "Super Lift" kit.

Coinpeace
September 20th, 2009, 08:05 PM
culwulla do u have an updated graph of this building? and another thing... is it a program you use that i could try out or is it just u drawing it up on like paint or something?

oli83
September 20th, 2009, 09:38 PM
The 18000 crane has arrived at the west plaza. You can check it out on this webcam, hurry before we all overload the servers and freeze this one. :)

http://howtodaylooksgroundzero.blogspot.com/

Oh I was wrong, looks like they assembled the crane directly on the small platform this time. Cool! :banana:

Coinpeace
September 20th, 2009, 09:43 PM
which crane?

DinoVabec
September 20th, 2009, 11:19 PM
Just for the record...

This new baby lift 200 tons more and it's 26 meters higher then this one on the east...:)

Uaarkson
September 20th, 2009, 11:30 PM
What are they lifting over there that requires such a large crane?

spectre000
September 20th, 2009, 11:51 PM
Just for the record...

This new baby lift 200 tons more and it's 26 meters higher then this one on the east...:)

I saw the stats for it on manitowoc's website, it's insane. Can't wait to see it fully assembled.

spectre000
September 20th, 2009, 11:56 PM
What are they lifting over there that requires such a large crane?

The same perimeter columns as on the east side. But they can't put in a similar plank road as they did for the other side, so they need a taller/stronger crane to lift the columns.

bajanssen
September 21st, 2009, 02:11 PM
How long will they use the mobile cranes for these large beams?

Basincreek
September 21st, 2009, 04:36 PM
I think, as far as 1WTC is concerned, they will only be installing the massive beams in the base. The beams above will be considerably lighter so the tower cranes should be able to install them.

Onn
September 21st, 2009, 05:15 PM
The tank has arrived. :)

ZippyTheChimp, Wired New York

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/1474/wtc43c.jpg

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/2665/wtc44c.jpg

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/373/wtc45c.jpg

Viperfreak2
September 21st, 2009, 05:48 PM
I wish the HD Earthcam was working. Looks like it has been frozen since Friday, nice sunny day.

Hightech Pro
September 21st, 2009, 06:55 PM
I saw the stats for it on manitowoc's website, it's insane. Can't wait to see it fully assembled.

Can you give us the link please?

ZZ-II
September 21st, 2009, 07:34 PM
I wish the HD Earthcam was working. Looks like it has been frozen since Friday, nice sunny day.

:weird:, it is working for me: http://www.earthcam.com/clients/groundzero/groundZero.swf

HT
September 21st, 2009, 07:38 PM
:weird:, it is working for me: http://www.earthcam.com/clients/groundzero/groundZero.swf

Yeah it shows a picture, but take a closer look. Its the same picture as last friday, its not updating anymore.

DinoVabec
September 21st, 2009, 08:20 PM
Can you give us the link please?

http://www.manitowoccranes.com/MCG_MC/Products/EN/model18000.asp

andysimo123
September 21st, 2009, 11:05 PM
That's a monster crane. 750 tonner. Anyone know what that's being used for?

DinoVabec
September 21st, 2009, 11:24 PM
That's a monster crane. 750 tonner. Anyone know what that's being used for?

Read a previous page...

Zensteeldude
September 21st, 2009, 11:41 PM
Someone is over stating the max lift of the 18000. With a 120 foot heavy lift boom it can lift 661 tons (600 metric tonnes) at a 24 foot radius. No MAX-ER of course.
As configured at the WTC site it can lift about 67.5 tons at 140 foot radius.

Exactly what it needs to lift and place the 3rd column in from the west on the north side.

Onn
September 22nd, 2009, 03:43 AM
September 21st

NYguy, SSP:

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/117566887/large.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/117566936/large.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/117567028/large.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/117567146/large.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/117567180/large.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/117567287/large.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/117567463/large.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/117567568/large.jpg

cmj2k2
September 22nd, 2009, 03:51 AM
Progress...

:banana:

I'm assuming after they get past the slightly slanted bottom of the building, things will speed up?

Uaarkson
September 22nd, 2009, 05:05 AM
Progress...

:banana:

I'm assuming after they get past the slightly slanted bottom of the building, things will speed up?

Which portion are you referring to? The walls of the base aren't actually diagonal, but appear to be because the corners are chamfered.

VRS
September 22nd, 2009, 05:11 AM
great up date picture......looks massive project

spectre000
September 22nd, 2009, 06:08 AM
Progress...

:banana:

I'm assuming after they get past the slightly slanted bottom of the building, things will speed up?

The lower podium is 186 feet high, above that is the actual office floors. Supposedly that is when we're supposed to see a new floor a week. I don't think they'll get to that height for another 6 months. Maybe they'll surprise us.

Bobdreamz
September 22nd, 2009, 07:34 AM
nice to see it's finally above street level! great updated pics!

micrip
September 22nd, 2009, 07:39 AM
The crane looks like it just left the factory!! I wonder if this is its first job?

spectre000
September 22nd, 2009, 08:07 AM
nice to see it's finally above street level! great updated pics!

It's been above street level since September 2008. Kinda depressing...

christos-greece
September 22nd, 2009, 11:39 AM
Well, that photo explains why is that platform is there...
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/117567180/large.jpg
btw, is one of the biggest cranes in WTC1 construction site?

Littlemob
September 22nd, 2009, 02:35 PM
It's been above street level since September 2008. Kinda depressing...

What's depressing about that hopefully this one will stay above street level for ever

Viperfreak2
September 22nd, 2009, 03:00 PM
Hello Earthcam, I have a question. I like watching the construction of WTC1, but you can't seem to keep a simple camera/server functioning, why? Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday....same image.

DinoVabec
September 22nd, 2009, 03:47 PM
Well, that photo explains why is that platform is there...

btw, is one of the biggest cranes in WTC1 construction site?

Yes, it's the biggest, heaviest, strongest...:nuts:

Buyckske Ruben
September 22nd, 2009, 05:23 PM
Progress...

:banana:

I'm assuming after they get past the slightly slanted bottom of the building, things will speed up?

The tower hasn't rised for months !!! :bash: :bash: :bash:

Hightech Pro
September 22nd, 2009, 07:17 PM
The tower hasn't rised for months !!! :bash: :bash: :bash:It did not rise, but it has significantly grown! If you are denying the big progress you are blind and stupid.

buildmilehightower
September 22nd, 2009, 07:29 PM
outer edge of the tower coming along nicely.

meh_cd
September 22nd, 2009, 08:08 PM
Hello Earthcam, I have a question. I like watching the construction of WTC1, but you can't seem to keep a simple camera/server functioning, why? Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday....same image.

I agree, but you have to realize that it is on top of the Milennium Hilton and that Earthcam has hundreds if not thousands of other webcams throughout the world. If anyone should be complaining it should be the people who are paying for the camera to be up there - and I'm sure they are. I don't know if we can access the camera's archives since they changed the layout, but it was fun to look at the roof sideways a few years back when it tipped over. Then we got a couple shots of the guy's tools and voila it was back up.

Towards The Sun
September 23rd, 2009, 12:04 AM
I miss the ability to search through the archives and see the progress over the years. I hope the archives will be available to us again in the future. I've been clicking on the webcam several times a day since it first went online. Now that progress has sped up considerably we're dealing with these frequent outages. I can't get upset about it because, after all, it is free. But I do hope they correct this problem ASAP. We're missing out on so much now.

Coinpeace
September 23rd, 2009, 12:19 AM
it really is booming in height

spectre000
September 23rd, 2009, 01:26 AM
Pieces (no idea what their called) arrived for the north core crane. Should jump anyday now.

Ganis
September 23rd, 2009, 07:42 AM
what is the tank crane gonna be used for?

micrip
September 23rd, 2009, 08:19 AM
Lifting stuff!!:nuts:(I couldn't resist)

nezzybaby
September 23rd, 2009, 11:00 AM
what is the tank crane gonna be used for?

Do you care? You do realise next time you come back to this thread the question may be 2 pages old, and evidence suggests you're not very good at looking two pages back when visiting threads. :ohno:

It is wonderful to see so much activity at the WTC site, it's finally enjoyable to visit this thread again, after 8 years of frustration.

eyrie
September 23rd, 2009, 11:40 AM
the building going on in this area is amazing.If we had just one of those anonymous buildings in the background being erected in our town the beloved dictator would give us children of the revolution a weeks worth of celebrations---jk of course but New York is amazing

oli83
September 23rd, 2009, 03:56 PM
the earthcam shows a new picture, unfortunately not from the construction site. But hopefully this means that a technician has fixed the problem and will readjust it soon on the site.

bbtran72
September 23rd, 2009, 04:22 PM
hi def cam is deffinitally showing a pic but it looks like ledge of something..i guess thats an improvement hahahah

friendsofthecity
September 23rd, 2009, 04:31 PM
Do you care? You do realise next time you come back to this thread the question may be 2 pages old, and evidence suggests you're not very good at looking two pages back when visiting threads. :ohno:

It is wonderful to see so much activity at the WTC site, it's finally enjoyable to visit this thread again, after 8 years of frustration.The past 8 years were frustrating, nonetheless, were courageous years for those who lost their loved ones in the 9/11 attack to see the building rising.

oli83
September 23rd, 2009, 06:35 PM
HD cam is back on track with actualised pic!!!

mgk920
September 23rd, 2009, 06:50 PM
^^
And like NYC's firetrucks, that crane was built here in Wisconsin!

:yes:

(couldn't resist!)

:cheers1:

Mike