Imn the pic below, I noticed that the center vertical beam in the tridents are not "plumb". Seems strange. I guess there is an engineering reason for it.^^

When you look at the load distribution because of the entrances the tridents take a lot more weight toward the inside. That would also explain the apprently lighter outer trident member.
I guess with those ludicrously heavy lower columns they don't have to worry about cross bracing on the lower level.

Thanks for the info about the structure. I guess with the massive lower structure of the twins, if they had a concrete core all the way up, and floor beams instead of trusses, and welded joints, they would have stood forever.

My view of this lower design of 1WTC is that a blast would blow out all the glass in those huge open areas, allowing the force someplace to go instead of the beams. Makes sense.

Request: more daily pictures please! The HD Earthcam is frozen yet again. I think the past month was a record for its reliabililty. I enjoyed watching it each day.

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My view of this lower design of 1WTC is that a blast would blow out all the glass in those huge open areas, allowing the force someplace to go instead of the beams. Makes sense.

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They are actually going to build extremely thick (10 ft?) concrete "blast walls" enclosing the base of the building to protect it from truck bombs etc.
The only glass will be at the entrances, and there will be secondary blast wall behind those.

[QUOTE=ElCrioyo;47252035]Popularity surge in this thread now. Just as i expected. Soon to become the most popular thread in SSC, the Burj Dubai is loosing ground.

^^That is because the Burj Dubai is nearly completed. WTC still has a long way to grow.

Cam is working again!!

Cam is working again!!

Wheww. Glad it wasn't a long outage. The decking for the fifth floor is coming along nicely. Hopefully more core steel will arrive soon.

There should be another jump in height v e r y soon!

Jump in height? The tower cranes don't jump everytime new core steel is put in. They usually jump two floors, so they should jump to the sixth floor(the floor after this) when they're preparing for the 20th floor.

Wow, the 20th floor. That was fast.:lol:

Jump in height? The tower cranes don't jump everytime new core steel is put in. They usually jump two floors, so they should jump to the sixth floor(the floor after this) when they're preparing for the 20th floor.

Wow, the 20th floor. That was fast.:lol:

Their will be a "jump in height" overall with the new core steel. I think we'll see the tower cranes jump when the core steel reaches the 20th floor, not the 6th.

Todayhttp://img412.imageshack.us/img412/4668/december4th.jpg

* The south pool is looking better and better
* SO is 4 wtc and Freedom

es el mejor edificio q se haya construido en nueva york

awesome , nice to see the reconstruction going on...

It's a normal phase for the US economy, not the rest of the world. We've been here before, almost everyone else hasn't. We've only been here before because North America has been a stable continent for the last 100 years. That certainly does mean the rest of the world will stay that way just because the US will. Dubai itself is inevitably on decline already, because I think most people see how stupid their whole plan is now. There is not nearly enough in that region to hold a city like Dubai together.

Dubai is a global city. And it is probable that in the next decades it will become one of the most important cities in the world. Right up to new york, london and paris. To say otherwise is to not understand the reality of the situation.

I don’t expect nearly as many supertall skyscrapers from them in the future, I don’t expect nearly as many to be announced in the next decade, especially with their credit market going down the tubes. They’re getting more and more expensive and risky to build.

Well, sure there will be a slowdown for some years. But in the next 20 years you will see much more supertalls build than in the last 20 years.

Some of the pics posted by NYGuy on SSP, 12-4-09,

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/119996688/large.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/119996732/large.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/119996829/large.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/119997393/large.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/119995064/large.jpg


Man, the podium is lookin' good!

It's going to be a large podium, it is looking very tall!

Just the Memorial and Tower One, and some sketches of some stuff in the lobby of #4.

SO whats next for the meorial and freedom.

1 truck load of steel delievered today

Actually that's the south side of the tower(N, S, E, W axis, and north points toward the verizon building), and that's the tower elevator. I'm glad to see it in operation.

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My view of this lower design of 1WTC is that a blast would blow out all the glass in those huge open areas, allowing the force someplace to go instead of the beams. Makes sense.

.....QUOTE]

They are actually going to build extremely thick (10 ft?) concrete "blast walls" enclosing the base of the building to protect it from truck bombs etc.
The only glass will be at the entrances, and there will be secondary blast wall behind those.

Actually, the blast walls well be between 2' 6" and 3' thick.

SO whats next for the meorial and freedom.

The next big thing for Tower One is the 20th floor corner nodes.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2739/4144677693_c5620912d6_o.jpg

They transition from the 2 slanted corner columns down to one column out to 3 columns. They are made of solid steel and have a total hight of 90 feet and weigh about 53 tons. There well be one at each corner of course and I expect to see them in the first quarter of 2010.

As for the Memorial, the chiller plant contract has been awarded and we should see it start to go in early next year. That big opening west of the South pool is where they are going to lower all the machinery (heat exchangers, pumps, etc.)

Wow, very interesting, I thought, that this piece would be significantly smaller. Are the crawlers tall enough to lift it to the 20th floor?

As for the Memorial, the chiller plant contract has been awarded and we should see it start to go in early next year. That big opening west of the South pool is where they are going to lower all the machinery (heat exchangers, pumps, etc.)[/QUOTE]

So should we see the rest of the south pool shape by the end of this year or sometime nedxt year

I do love this thower! Hopefully its construction will be fast :)

Wow, very interesting, I thought, that this piece would be significantly smaller. Are the crawlers tall enough to lift it to the 20th floor?

I believe the corner nodes are why the crawlers are still around.

Remember awhile back, Big red (east side) was reconfigured with a longer jib. My guess is so that it could reach high enough (with a reduced capacity) to install the corner nodes.

On the other hand I could be totally wrong, the tower cranes working together might be able to install them.

So should we see the rest of the south pool shape by the end of this year or sometime nedxt year

Probably by the end of January, weather permitting.

I believe the corner nodes are why the crawlers are still around.

Remember awhile back, Big red (east side) was reconfigured with a longer jib. My guess is so that it could reach high enough (with a reduced capacity) to install the corner nodes.

On the other hand I could be totally wrong, the tower cranes working together might be able to install them.

If they extended the boom of the East Crawler, then they are probably able to lift them. Even if they lose capacity, the corner nodes are a lot closer to the crane and should not be a problem.

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/119997393/large.jpg




A great milestone in the tower's appearance will be reached once the first columns for the next floor go in. From that point on, it really will seem as a tower under construction and not just a podium.

What is the purpose of the chiller plant? I have heard about it a lot but I have no idea what it would be cooling down. The water in the pools? Circulation for an A/C system? I am not sure...

It's to provide A/C to the Memorial/Museum and PATH station/ Transit hub.

What is the purpose of the chiller plant? I have heard about it a lot but I have no idea what it would be cooling down. The water in the pools? Circulation for an A/C system? I am not sure...

Chiller plants remove heat from large areas, stadiums, office towers, and malls have them etc.

- A

A great milestone in the tower's appearance will be reached once the first columns for the next floor go in. From that point on, it really will seem as a tower under construction and not just a podium.

But the next floor that goes in will still be a part of the base (podium) as well as the next floor after that. THEN, yeah, once the office floors start going in, it will really start looking like a building.

I have this vision of the site on 9/11/11 with there being a huge American flag hanging from close to the top of the building (which at that point should be around the 90th floor), facing the memorial. I mean bigger than the one they had on the building a few weeks back (which was still cool), kind of like the huge flag they had on the WFC once in a while. What a pretty sight that would be.

Pictures from inside the beast. :cheers:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/45205494@N02/

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http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2707/4155948386_27096ff3d6_b.jpg

Memorial:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2643/4155198773_21af924fc9_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2736/4158077847_b3a2693605_b.jpg

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Nice pictures, still a bit to slow but this pictures from the inside really show's us all the work we can`t really see from the outside.

What ever happened to the Subway in the tower crane?

Great pictures!

This proyect has been moving really slow, or at least that is what we can see from the outside, but i'm sure the Freedom Tower will rise faster from now on. :happy:

:drool::drool:

What ever happened to the Subway in the tower crane?

Picketing Pickles demanding more safety measures.


We should all be jumping for joy at the progress which has been made since August 09 :banana:

Great pics. If we look hard enough, we may spot the renegade who didn't join the lines

Looks like they made a lot of progress today..I took this photo from my hovercraft.

http://www.no-games.com/images/freedom_tower.jpg

Wow, nice! This IS going to be a large building, the twin towers were telling at the colossal size.

Looks like they made a lot of progress today..I took this photo from my hovercraft.

http://www.no-games.com/images/freedom_tower.jpg


WTF? hovercraft? really badly photoshopped image? huh?

^^ Wow I really thought it would be real *ironic*
:D :D

Pictures from inside the beast. :cheers:

Bravo! Super pictures! :applause:

it,s amazing!

More than likely nothing going to happen today at freedom just 1 column left on the east side! But tons of steel is going in today on the south pool!:banana:

Looks like they made a lot of progress today..I took this photo from my hovercraft.

http://www.no-games.com/images/freedom_tower.jpg

lol i wonder when this will be up this high, im sure it wont look like this though!

Pictures from inside the beast. :cheers:

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In the top photo, are those cinder blocks on the floor of the pool? If so, where are they being placed? I thought the pool walls were made of formed reinforced concrete, like the core walls of 1WTC. (But I think I haven't seen any close-up shots of the walls being built.)

Also, why hasn't the floor been finished where the two men are standing? I'm guessing that there is a wall beneath the floor and they will pour concrete in the gap where the vertical rebar (has the orange caps on it) is, and maybe finish pouring the floor at the same time. Seems like they would have done this long ago.

In the bottom photo we see two office trailers. Perhaps the Subway will be such a trailer? Obviously the trailers have to be jumped periodically, like the tower cranes. It looks like the orange steel at the left end of the trailers is part of the jumping mechanism for the trailers.

The next big thing for Tower One is the 20th floor corner nodes.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2739/4144677693_c5620912d6_o.jpg

They transition from the 2 slanted corner columns down to one column out to 3 columns. They are made of solid steel and have a total hight of 90 feet and weigh about 53 tons. There well be one at each corner of course and I expect to see them in the first quarter of 2010.

As for the Memorial, the chiller plant contract has been awarded and we should see it start to go in early next year. That big opening west of the South pool is where they are going to lower all the machinery (heat exchangers, pumps, etc.)

i no i shouldn't ask :lol: ........ but how did you get a hold of these incredible prints ? and do you have more that you can share with us ?

In the top photo, are those cinder blocks on the floor of the pool? If so, where are they being placed? I thought the pool walls were made of formed reinforced concrete, like the core walls of 1WTC. (But I think I haven't seen any close-up shots of the walls being built.)

Most likely, those are for some area within the museum and they are just being stored there for the time being. I remember the Q3 report said that the installation of the masonry walls for the museum were supposed to start either this quarter or sometime soon.

Also, why hasn't the floor been finished where the two men are standing? I'm guessing that there is a wall beneath the floor and they will pour concrete in the gap where the vertical rebar (has the orange caps on it) is, and maybe finish pouring the floor at the same time. Seems like they would have done this long ago.

Okay, I just went and watched a video I shot from inside the museum on the level immediately below where that gap is and think I have the answer for both of your questions. First, on the level below, there was a line of pieces of rebar sticking up from the floor, exactly beneath those that appear to be "hung down" through the hole in the pool above. So yes, it appears to be for a wall that will go there. Also, I didn't think anything of it at the time but all throughout the level below the pool, I see huge bundles of those pieces of "cinder blocks". So I believe they must be for the museum, somehow. I'll try to upload the video and post a link shortly, but I won't be able to keep it up for long... video from inside the museum is strictly prohibitted!!!! :nuts:

Wow, I just noticed something else interesting. Around the smaller square pool inside the main pool, you see 5 boxes on each side (20 total) with orange X's over them, indicating there is an opening beneath and the wood is temporary to prevent you from falling in (there are also four in the center of the pool). This can either be for one of two things: drains for the water, or openings to allow for lights around the smaller pool. I'm hoping it's for lights, which will really be beautiful at night. But, who knows.

Wow, I just noticed something else interesting. Around the smaller square pool inside the main pool, you see 5 boxes on each side (20 total) with orange X's over them, indicating there is an opening beneath and the wood is temporary to prevent you from falling in (there are also four in the center of the pool). This can either be for one of two things: drains for the water, or openings to allow for lights around the smaller pool. I'm hoping it's for lights, which will really be beautiful at night. But, who knows.

I just hope the lights aren't tacky like Niagara Falls.

eess muy importante q la refuerzen a la torre para evitar el colapson en un eventual atentado

I just hope the lights aren't tacky like Niagara Falls.

The reason the Niagara Falls lights look tacky is because the reason the Niagara Falls are so beautiful is because they are a part of nature and the earth and all that. The lights are something manmade that was introduced to try to beautify nature. The lights are also all kinds of different colors. No one is going to look at the waterfalls in the middle of downtown Manhattan as being a part of nature, so having lights there (which are just pure white, not multi-colored) isn't going to make anything look tacky.

I love this rendering, I do not know if it has been posted before but it gives such a great view of downtown Manhattan in hopefully 8 years time.

http://img101.photolava.com/2009/12/07/99_church_street_wtc100208_dbox3-imr83ccz.jpg

Better than it looked last year!

http://img101.photolava.com/2009/12/07/99_church_street_wtc100208_dbox1-oa0pgnlp.jpg

I love this rendering, I do not know if it has been posted before but it gives such a great view of downtown Manhattan in hopefully 8 years time.

http://img101.photolava.com/2009/12/07/99_church_street_wtc100208_dbox3-imr83ccz.jpg



8 years is a bit muc, with luck we'll be able to see that view by the middle of this coming decade, 5 or 6 years

nice compare picture...

Yeah very nice comparative views!!
Just a question, WTC4 will be hidden behind WTC2 or 3 from this angle?

It is at the very back of the site from where we are looking so it will be behind both of them. It is not on this rendering as far as I can tell but you would only be able to see tiny bits of it from this angle anyway, probably in between 2 and 3.

http://img101.photolava.com/2009/12/07/masterplan-lc1wk07q.jpg

This is the masterplan from Architecture today. I do not know if it is current.

Here is our steel coming in right now! It looks more like core steel it may be because its dark though so. Its supposed to be nice today so lots of work can be done

Will the "tribute in light" continue after the completion of the memorial? I certainly hope so, i believe it is very beautiful.

8 years is a bit muc, with luck we'll be able to see that view by the middle of this coming decade, 5 or 6 years
http://img101.photolava.com/2009/12/07/99_church_street_wtc100208_dbox3-imr83ccz.jpg[/QUOTE]

what is the name of that old style building which is not yet build in left side.

^^ 30 Park Place, on hold right now. Silverstein has said he hopes to resume construction in 2011 or 2012.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=576845

It is at the very back of the site from where we are looking so it will be behind both of them. It is not on this rendering as far as I can tell but you would only be able to see tiny bits of it from this angle anyway, probably in between 2 and 3.

Thanks for the answer! That's wath I thought too, WTC4 is not on this render

excelente diseño, me encanta:cheers:

Not much of anything going on at 1WTC today, but the cam is showing steel flying up at 4WTC.

Not much of anything going on at 1WTC today, but the cam is showing steel flying up at 4WTC.

There were several perimeter columns installed today. 1 in the NW corner, and 2 or 3 on the west side. The inner ring of steel was also added on the west side. A lot of steel was lifted up for the 5th floor in the NW corner. Not a bad days work.

I'd like them to see them install the decking in the SW memorial corner though. That's been ready for weeks now. Also, it'd be nice if they did more work on the south pool steel. I can't wait till we see both pools.

^^ 30 Park Place, on hold right now. Silverstein has said he hopes to resume construction in 2011 or 2012.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=576845

Or 99 Church Street.

There is an article in today's Star-Ledger about the company doing the steel fabrication for Tower One and part of Tower Four and the Transit hub.

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2009/12/south_plainfield_steel_plant_f.html

They also make the booms and tower sections for the tower cranes.

They are also making the Subway shop ! (end of the article)

i no i shouldn't ask :lol: ........ but how did you get a hold of these incredible prints ? and do you have more that you can share with us ?

The company I work for bid on some work at Tower One and the Memorial so I have a full set of prints for both.

I share what I can.

I love this rendering, I do not know if it has been posted before but it gives such a great view of downtown Manhattan in hopefully 8 years time.

http://img101.photolava.com/2009/12/07/99_church_street_wtc100208_dbox3-imr83ccz.jpg

Yep, one of my favorite desktop backgrounds.

well i didnt see any steel delievered this morning! hopefully a lot can get done bad weather the rest of the week

^^ :? it just looks like a lamp is lighting up the interior. At most it could be sparks from welding.

I dont know if that photo posted before...
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2694/4155956162_db357ea777_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/45205494@N02/4155956162/

^^ liking the progress :cheers:

Looks like they should be done with the steel on the current level sometime by the end of the week at the current rate (hopefully!). Then all the corners will be ready for the new connection nodes. Such good progress!

don't know if this render was posted before...

http://www.downtownexpress.com/de_175/tower.gif

Looks like they should be done with the steel on the current level sometime by the end of the week at the current rate (hopefully!). Then all the corners will be ready for the new connection nodes. Such good progress!

I can't wait for more core steel. Hopefully very soon!

don't know if this render was posted before...

http://www.downtownexpress.com/de_175/tower.gif

T2 looks too small in this render.

don't know if this render was posted before...

http://www.downtownexpress.com/de_175/tower.gif

My 3 year old with a crayola could have done better than this render, it is cack handed!

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Just wondering how far behind the core is from the current steelwork progress. Does anyone know when the next big pour will be for the core?

Sorry if this seems like a bit of an amateur question, but is it normal for the core to lag behind the progress of the steelwork?

Not really. In most buildings the core is several stories higher than the steel during construction.

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t263/DKNY617/IMG_0735.jpg

This is an amazing shot. The grand canyon of skyscrapers. 1WTC looks like such a monster off in the distance.

^^
I totally agree, it's a surreal shot. :)

that section of Manhattan will be the La Defense of NYC.

You have the
- 4 WTC towers that are under construction or proposed
- the new Goldman Sachs Tower
- the already complete 7 WTC
- 123 washington street
- a new building to replace the Douche Bank building

- and the World Financial center buildings.

So many new buildings.....

Saw the construction site with my own eyes today. Very impressive. The freedom tower is going up quick now. Updates will come this weekend

that section of Manhattan will be the La Defense of NYC.

You have the
- 4 WTC towers that are under construction or proposed
- the new Goldman Sachs Tower
- the already complete 7 WTC
- 123 washington street
- a new building to replace the Douche Bank building

- and the World Financial center buildings.

So many new buildings.....

You forgot to mention the Beekman Place tower, the buildings that are currently on hold like 50 west street that will resume construction onde day and so on. And we dont know whats already planned for lower manhattan what will be released maybe next year. Than we have to add the transformation of the wetst street from a highway to a grand boulevard. Lower Manhattan will be so much cooler than it already is in just 5 years, cant wait.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2528/4169432455_659995b781_b.jpg
Flickr, fimoculous (http://www.flickr.com/photos/fimoculous/)

Eight inches of snow in Albany right now. Looks like they only got rain in Manhattan though.

You forgot to mention the Beekman Place tower, the buildings that are currently on hold like 50 west street that will resume construction onde day and so on. And we dont know whats already planned for lower manhattan what will be released maybe next year. Than we have to add the transformation of the wetst street from a highway to a grand boulevard. Lower Manhattan will be so much cooler than it already is in just 5 years, cant wait.

(sorry for off topic) Transformation of West Street? PM with more info/ link please.

I know it is off topic, but it is close.... is there a thread for the proposed development of the Deutsche Bank building? I am trying to work out how the whole downtown area will look when this is finished?

The base is half way built...:)

http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/8083/4169432455659995b781bd.jpg

Thank you for that Dino... rather eye opening... The massing of this building is incredible, it seems so large when you are down there, and that illustration really helps us see exactly how large...

Thank you for that Dino... rather eye opening... The massing of this building is incredible, it seems so large when you are down there, and that illustration really helps us see exactly how large...

I've never seen it in person, unfortuntely, but lookin' forward to see it one day...But it's obvious that it's huge...And when you see all those massive beams and all that steel, it looks like the modern fortress...The fortress of freedom...And as the base has "cuted" corners, looks like it provocate principles of the stability...:nuts:

It's great!

I wish it's finish soon!

its a sight to see it was pretty big when I seen it last. That was two months ago its so much bigger now

Most likely, those are for some area within the museum and they are just being stored there for the time being. I remember the Q3 report said that the installation of the masonry walls for the museum were supposed to start either this quarter or sometime soon.

Okay, I just went and watched a video I shot from inside the museum on the level immediately below where that gap is and think I have the answer for both of your questions. First, on the level below, there was a line of pieces of rebar sticking up from the floor, exactly beneath those that appear to be "hung down" through the hole in the pool above. So yes, it appears to be for a wall that will go there. Also, I didn't think anything of it at the time but all throughout the level below the pool, I see huge bundles of those pieces of "cinder blocks". So I believe they must be for the museum, somehow. I'll try to upload the video and post a link shortly, but I won't be able to keep it up for long... video from inside the museum is strictly prohibitted!!!! :nuts:

Thanks for the info. Why the video restrictions? Do they not allow photos either?

Looks like there may have been a core pour earlier today. There was a concrete pump truck sitting near the southeast corner for quite a while.

Thanks for the info. Why the video restrictions? Do they not allow photos either?

According to Joe Woolhead, who is the official photographer of the rebuilding hired by Silverstein Properties, the Port Authority (which actually owns the site and runs security there) has gone kind of nuts in the past few months when it comes to photography. Even he was banned from the site for a week. I was only allowed to take pictures and video when no one was around, but had to promise that even then, I would only show them to family and friends and wouldn't post them on the internet. I don't know what reason they have for the restrictions, but them's the rules.

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I took picture down there no problem I see peopling doing it all the time.

The weather looks to be much better today. I think the winds will be low enough so the cranes can start moving steel again. The final trident section for this level could be done today, which may mean a jump to the next (FINAL) level of the base section!

Looks like core steel is laying on top of the 5th floor near the south tower crane this morning.


Edit: My mistake, looks like just perimeter steel.

The weather looks to be much better today. I think the winds will be low enough so the cranes can start moving steel again. The final trident section for this level could be done today, which may mean a jump to the next (FINAL) level of the base section!

There will be two more levels!

I guess next week we'll see next level of the core...

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Whats that builduing U/C on the right corner (quite tall!)

Whats that builduing U/C on the right corner (quite tall!)

123 Washington Street, 57 floors
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=633246&page=14

great up date picture...

What are they putting in place to the doueche bank building that is being deconstructed?

What are they putting in place to the doueche bank building that is being deconstructed?

Their is talk of putting the Performance Art Center in its place. I'd prefer to keep it by 1WTC. One day it could be 5WTC. But that's probably 10 or more years away.

December 10th:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2636/4174198321_4f1d9ca7d4_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/morrongiello/4174198321/

Only a couple floors left until they will get above the base. Very exiting!:cheers:

I havent heared anything about the arbitration! Does anyone know what's happening with it or when it is supposed to end .
I figured we would hear from silverstein about the bonds too!

I havent heared anything about the arbitration! Does anyone know what's happening with it or when it is supposed to end .
I figured we would hear from silverstein about the bonds too!


They've said a decision should come down in December. It should be anyday now...

impresive..

its getting bigger!

I think most of the west perimeter steel is up now, so they can finish building out the current floor. Hopefully we'll see another floor or crane jump by year's end!

Quick question, I apologize if it has been already answered, but when do they start putting up the cladding? More specifically will there be any cladding on the 10th ani of 9/11?

Cladding will probably start in early summer/late spring of 2010.

So excited about WTC1. New York Rocks!;)

^^
Hi there,

There's another skyscraper under construction in the background(very tall & thin),is it also part of the new WTC development?

Thanks in advance:cheers:

^^
Hi there,

There's another skyscraper under construction in the background(very tall & thin),is it also part of the new WTC development?

Thanks in advance:cheers:

If you are speaking about the white clad building, no it is not part of the WTC development.

Its 123 Washington Street, a W Hotel is within the building. :)

Thanks for your response NYCD,but actually I meant the skyscraper apparently under construction which you can see in comment 12093(2nd and 3rd picture on the right),it's a tall and pretty thin building & you can even see its cladding being almost completed.

Do you see what I mean?

Otherwise,I'm very glad to see the Freedom tower rise,at last...Now things are gonna speed up significantly from one week to another...:)

Cheers mate!:cheers:

Thanks for your response NYCD,but actually I meant the skyscraper apparently under construction which you can see in comment 12093(2nd and 3rd picture on the right),it's a tall and pretty thin building & you can even see its cladding being almost completed.

Do you see what I mean?

Otherwise,I'm very glad to see the Freedom tower rise,at last...Now things are gonna speed up significantly from one week to another...:)

Cheers mate!:cheers:

You're referring to 8 Spruce St by Frank Gehry or 123 Washington which was mentioned before. 123 Washington is behind the Deutsche Bank.

Not that much been done today! But there was some floor put in!

I don't see any change in the 2WTC site. All the digging has been completed already so if they were really to start moving on the site you'd see drilling/piling.

Are they digging at 2 wtc site next to the hub or what? It looks like they did some digging there in the past couple of days if not day!:banana:

They're just clearing out the remaining portion of the old H&M station/temporary PATH hub, as well as soil from underneath the PATH "1 box".

Um, that the No. 1 Line's subway train box, and it's owned and operated by MTA. I must say, at least the city's transit system has a say on the progress at the World Trade Center as well.

Hi!

Does anybody know anything about the rather distant building with many bright lights? Is it new Goldman Sachs tower?

Sincerely yours,

Pavel Rezvushkin

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t263/DKNY617/IMG_0735.jpg

Hi!

Does anybody know anything about the rather distant building with many bright lights? Is it new Goldman Sachs tower?

Sincerely yours,

Pavel Rezvushkin


Yes it is.

Hi!

Does anybody know anything about the rather distant building with many bright lights? Is it new Goldman Sachs tower?

Sincerely yours,

Pavel Rezvushkin



Right, that's the Goldman Sachs

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=452972&page=36

Check out the progress in the last 3 months its been amazing. Pictures From December 10th and September 14th

http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/7082/comparison1.jpg http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/6104/comparison2.jpg

thats not amazing imo, this is "normal" speed

romanamerican,

AlSnow,

thanks a lot!

Sincerely yours,

Pavel Rezvushkin

im really looking foward to see this tower built..it moved so slow in the past years

Halfway there! Office floors soon. I can't wait until Q4 2011. :D

The best update ! Shape is now very notorius...

speaking of canes any idea when freedom will get her 3rd or 4th crane

Looks like that square base will have floorplates and the first floor will have a high ceiling just like the original twin towers. But I have no idea what floor constructio is on, it is unknown when it reaches Floor 20 (the first office floor).

So there are two mechanical floors left before it reaches the regular office floors?

Wow, there is so much movement right now on nearly the whole site. Cant wait to see ground zero by the end of march by myself.

great up date...

great up date...

what update?? :ohno:

Guys, just imagine how great it would be to work in this building. "I'm working in the Freedom Tower", "my workplace is the Freedom Tower" - how it sounds, huh? :nuts:

Sincerely yours,

Pavel Rezvushkin

I look forward to completion.:yes:

Today should be a height jump. I will be watching the HD cam. Funny how excited I am about this...?

There's not enough floor height to promote another crane jump. They'll either jump to the 20th floor if there's enough space, or to the next floor that they'll start sometime this week.

But I do like that the tower is squared out this morning. Things have finally caught up.

This is basically the first time the building has been fully squared out since the north core got its first cage steel.

Guys, just imagine how great it would be to work in this building. "I'm working in the Freedom Tower", "my workplace is the Freedom Tower" - how it sounds, huh? :nuts:

Sincerely yours,

Pavel Rezvushkin

Too bad is not the Freedom tower, is the One World Trade Center!How does that Sound? even better!;)

Too bad is not the Freedom tower, is the One World Trade Center!How does that Sound? even better!;)

Call it whatever u like, just build the bloody thing! :)

Anything going to happen today? WIll there be anymore core columns up or are they going to stop and work on lower floors for a while

Maybe the weather has slowed them down. I don't see any red steel, or brown core steel prepped for installation. You would think they would complete the final two 'levels' of the base, then work on those for a while while preparing for the standard office levels.

^^ Uh, that is exactly what they will do. Bad weather = no steel, since they're not allowed to erect it in the rain.

a bit OT, but sill interesing to read: Muslim Prayers and Renewal Near Ground Zero (http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/09/nyregion/09mosque.html?_r=2&scp=1&sq=ground%20zero%20muslim&st=cse)

Brand new:
Port Authority WTC Progress on Flickr (http://www.flickr.com/photos/wtcprogress)
Port Authorty WTC Progress on YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/wtcprogress)

its not raining at less it isn't right how. it hasn't rain since sunday

Wow the Port Authority on their Flickr Page says that Freedom is at the 5th floor and that it will be at the 47th floor by the next anniversary of 9/11

So there are two mechanical floors left before it reaches the regular office floors?

One full floor and 2 mezzanines. Or 2 more core steel column lifts to get to the 20th. Or 2 perimeter column lifts plus the revers of the 3rd floor branching.

PS: the 20th floor isn't normal, but the 21st on up is.

Too bad is not the Freedom tower, is the One World Trade Center!How does that Sound? even better!;)

Maybe! The semantics is like "pinnacle". ;)

Sincerely yours,

Pavel Rezvushkin

Three concrete trucks visible on north side this morning. Pouring core?, floors?, who knows?:) Also maybe more construction stairs for east side, appeer to be pre-wrapped in the blue, came off the flat bed that way.

A few from Monday, December 14, 2009:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2623/4189076854_78275438d0_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bostoncitywalk/4189076854/)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2642/4189076434_893d0816c9_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bostoncitywalk/4189076434/)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2780/4188313399_e38b10a854_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bostoncitywalk/4188313399/)

Check out the rest of my Freedom Tower Construction pictures HERE. (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bostoncitywalk/sets/72157611809401970/)

Flickr: BOSTONCITYWALK (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bostoncitywalk/)

It appears the north core shear wall forms have moved up?


Sorry but I met to type south. To er is human. l


Toby

It appears the north core shear wall forms have moved up?

it did like a month ago maybe less

It appears the north core shear wall forms have moved up?
That wall of the north core, moved up (indeed) in those recent days i think...

Hey, they're installing the subway sandwich shop right now! The north crane is picking it upp off of a flatbed truck nearby.

wow is that huge white box subway? wow..haha

wow is that huge white box subway? wow..haha

I believe so yes. You know, they need enough room for the 5$ dollar foot-longs. :lol:

A few from Monday, December 14, 2009:


Great photos! :applause::cheers:

srry if this is not new, so plz do not prosecute me :lol:.... it looks kinda new ?
http://doggiebag.typepad.com/owen_william_wallace/images/2007/09/08/31_02_wtc.jpg

Here's a pic I snapped:

http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/5397/photod.jpg (http://img706.imageshack.us/i/photod.jpg/)

Can't wait till the base is complete!:lol:

Here is another update, it looks about right
http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/154/workwiththis.png

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2792/4190151033_5aa5d681c6_b.jpg
Flickr, morrongiello (http://www.flickr.com/photos/morrongiello/)

By GreenwichBoy, WNY, today.


http://wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=8098&d=1261059601


http://wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=8099&d=1261059612

http://wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=8100&d=1261059631

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/695/picture303f.jpg
greenwichboy wiredny


north core pour

Here is another update, it looks about right
http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/154/workwiththis.png

Sorry for qouting the bis picture!
I just wanted to ask if the last eight floors are really that tall? It's just because I wanted to make a model of the tower with sketch up.
And does the base really have just five floors?
Does someone know the length and the width of the core?

The base has six floors, the lobby is number 1 and the first big floor is number 3. Between them is one small floor with normal height hanging down from the third. But the drawing Itself is correct, at least at the base. It is just the hanging floor, which is not drawn there.

So, can anyone explain what the multi-level white structure with yellow rails is really for, or should I guess that it is the start of a central stairway core form? Or the walkway for the two level office pod just below, which will be raised up inside it? Or is the waiting line railing for the Subway...?

^^

There are no stairs in that "cell" of the core. It may have something to do with the office containers but I think it is a work platform for placing core rebar.

Quick and sloppy.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2512/4194431360_46ccf216ce_b.jpg

srry if this is not new, so plz do not prosecute me :lol:.... it looks kinda new ?
http://doggiebag.typepad.com/owen_william_wallace/images/2007/09/08/31_02_wtc.jpg



wait a minute. does that mean the new york performing arts centre is scrapped? it was to be located in the small building beside freedom tower and 7wtc. between the 1&2 wtc buildings. it was an alright little building plain but good

wait a minute. does that mean the new york performing arts centre is scrapped? it was to be located in the small building beside freedom tower and 7wtc. between the 1&2 wtc buildings. it was an alright little building plain but good

Performing arts center will go between WTC1 and WTC2. There has been talk before moving arts center to former deutsche bank site but it's no go for now. Construction suppose to start in 2014.

see this article: http://www.lowermanhattan.info/news/city_moving_forward_on_15191.aspx

Is there a reason for why north core concrete is lagging behind once again?

[QUOTE=Zensteeldude;48684337]Quick and sloppy.

You even adjusted the cranes height while being quick and sloppy, that made me laugh!

Is there a reason for why north core concrete is lagging behind once again?

Because the south core had rebar up long before the north core bacame level with it.

Because the south core had rebar up long before the north core bacame level with it.

Yes, but the cores have been level for a few months now, and in these months no visible work has been done on the north one(besides raising the inner part of the forms).

It would seem that they could easily have caught up during this period. After all, they have to pour the core every 10 days or so once the tower starts rising.

Yes, but the cores have been level for a few months now, and in these months no visible work has been done on the north one(besides raising the inner part of the forms).

It would seem that they could easily have caught up during this period. After all, they have to pour the core every 10 days or so once the tower starts rising.

I bet they were waiting for Fulton Street to be accessible to begin concrete pouring again. The worksite is pretty tight for space. Once the Vesey street overhang is extended and the rest of Fulton Street is done, they should have enough area to work with to do both steel and concrete work simultaneously.

HUGE snowstorm forcasted for the New York area by the weather media. It's been raining like cats and dogs where I live (Georgia). This is one HECK of a storm!

^^ We havent got much rain where I live (Tennessee), but the weaterpeople are forecasting a foot of snow on the east coast!

Wonderful progress!!!

- A

18 December:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2561/4195871761_e02cfea4aa_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/paranoidnotandroid/4195871761/

how tall now?

great photo updates and brilliant to see the outer form of the building starting to emerge.

wow lloook amazing

hey everyone. i have been drawing up construction update diagrams fo rmany other buildings lately and i thought it was time to try the freedom tower. i haven't wuite finished or added many of the details but its just a preview of what is coming. i will finish it off tomorrow as it is 2am and i need sleep. i will be using the other diagrams posted to find details like heights that i need to include. enjoy. i will be posting updates at least once a month but for the next few weeks while i don't have many diagrams to post i will hopefully get a diagram in ever week, and sometimes daily if the pictures come in enough. i'll finish drawing the freedom towers outline tomorrow and have it posted before the new year
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/6769/1wtc.png



merry christmas

has anyone heared about this new building? Centraltower Interstate Center is going to be built in Lower Manhattan and will be 3884 feet tall! here is the link.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centraltower_Interstate_Center That beats freedom by 2000 feet!

has anyone heared about this new building? Centraltower Interstate Center is going to be built in Lower Manhattan and will be 3884 feet tall! here is the link.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centraltower_Interstate_Center That beats freedom by 2000 feet!

It's just an architect/developers pipe dream. These types of projects get proposed all the time. Frank Lloyd Wright proposed a mile high tower for Chicago once. Donald Trump proposed a new tallest building during the 80's for NYC.

I wouldn't give it a second thought. Would be spectacular though!

That height isn't even possible in that area. The FAA would never approve it.

if that was the case there be alot of short building in NYC. The FAA haven't tried to kill a building in NYC yet and you said that like there building in front of the airport. Any height a good height in New York

^^ Any renders of the Centraltower Interstate Center? I looked but couldn't find one.

It just came out. There maybe no renders for awhile

I was looking forward to seeing the snow on the HD Earthcam, but of course it stopped updating today. Given how fragile that camera seems to be, maybe they turned it off and put a cover over it to protect it from the weather until the storm passes.

The RGZ cam shows a good covering of snow on the site. The Times Square cams show the snow coming down fairly hard now, but not sticking to the roads yet. Hopefully a foot or two of snow won't delay work on 1WTC come Monday.

There is a new platform being installed over the PATH roof. It's taller than the other one (which is being expanded) so that it will be above the HVAC equipment.

Anyone know or want to guess why they recently removed the steel from the northeast corner of the north pool? I sure thought it was permanent.

http://i50.tinypic.com/1zv8n7d.jpg http://i47.tinypic.com/dfx0ch.jpg

hello i introduce myself, my name is annie fitzcher pacino, i'm from mexico but I was born in Argentina, my mother was french, we went with my dad to NY when I was 9, we left the building world Trade Center Tower One 15 minutes before the terrorist attack, was horrible for me because i was only a young girl, I was very scared because my mom had not left, she was doing other things and told us to wait outside, i remember of every word and gesture that my dad did when he saw the building collapsing, that was the worst day of my life because my dad carried me in his arms and ran away from the building to save my life, to write this to you my friends, i must confess that I am looking forward to mourn, my mother died when i was just a young girl, and now in her grave, his government is constructing another building to replace the destroyed towers, this should'nt be importance to me, anyway, I have followed in detail each step of this building and my tears in my eyes, I do not know what else to say, I just hope that you will not forget the heroes who died in that terrorist attack
heroes because my mom was one of them
adios
bye

I do not want to cause sadness in this forum, only i did not avoid expressing my feelings

where I live now, it's very cold in this season, the highest building here is not relevant to its height, and is commonly used for office

supertall the best skyscraper in the world away
greetings from Argentina

Wow that would be cool to see it done but yeah the FAA unfortunately will not approve it for maybe even half that size.

if that was the case there be alot of short building in NYC. The FAA haven't tried to kill a building in NYC yet and you said that like there building in front of the airport. Any height a good height in New York

How about you tell me how many buildings are over the 2000 foot FAA limit in NYC and then we can talk.

Regardless, that's the first I've ever heard of that proposal and the only thing a google search turns up is the wikipedia entry and a few posts on message boards (including this one) from over a year go. There's no need for even more excess office space in Manhattan, especially in the form of some ridiculously large tower.

hey evryone. i've been working on the diagram, still not completely done but heres what i have done. i have to add the floors, floor no. important floors and functions.

http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/3952/1wtc201209.png


if anyhting is missing please notify me and i will fix it asap. i need more updates beofre i can update the drawing. once office floors are started (mid january) updates should be alot more often

How about you tell me how many buildings are over the 2000 foot FAA limit in NYC and then we can talk.

Regardless, that's the first I've ever heard of that proposal and the only thing a google search turns up is the wikipedia entry and a few posts on message boards (including this one) from over a year go. There's no need for even more excess office space in Manhattan, especially in the form of some ridiculously large tower.


Not to mention the much higher insurance costs of anything that high. Silverstein took a lot of money off the insurers and they are determined to get all of it and much more back.

This is copy of cuwulla diagram. :bash:

no it's not, it's quite different to Cullwulla's diagrams

This is copy of cuwulla diagram. :bash:
Even if it is, it doesn't matter!

why all daigrams

I just hope that you will not forget the heroes who died in that terrorist attack
heroes because my mom was one of them

NEVER FORGET

has anyone heared about this new building? Centraltower Interstate Center is going to be built in Lower Manhattan and will be 3884 feet tall! here is the link.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centraltower_Interstate_Center That beats freedom by 2000 feet!

this is fake and that's a render from a new World Trade Center proposal.

this is fake and that's a render from a new World Trade Center proposal.

Thank you.

lol what is this crap, anyway? The developer changed overnight and the picture was uploaded today as well. It's just some pipedream by someone at this site.

Never trust anything from Wikipedia. Anyone can edit it with wrong information or sources. Do not let anything from Wikipedia fool you.

Never trust anything from Wikipedia. Anyone can edit it with wrong information or sources. Do not let anything from Wikipedia fool you.

:nuts::nuts::nuts::nuts::nuts::nuts:

Thank you.

lol what is this crap, anyway? The developer changed overnight and the picture was uploaded today as well. It's just some pipedream by someone at this site.

It says the developer is based in New York, but the website is in Germany. Sounds fraudulent to me.

Never trust anything from Wikipedia. Anyone can edit it with wrong information or sources. Do not let anything from Wikipedia fool you.

I marked this article for deletion based on the following criteria:

Articles that cannot possibly be attributed to reliable sources, including neologisms, original theories and conclusions, and articles that are themselves hoaxes (but not articles describing notable hoaxes

It would've been good if it was actually going to happen, it would change he skyline and then nyc would be taller than dubai. to bad its fake

It would've been good if it was actually going to happen, it would change he skyline and then nyc would be taller than dubai. to bad its fake

No, it wouldn't have. Taller is not better. It would have destroyed the downtown skyline.

How about you tell me how many buildings are over the 2000 foot FAA limit in NYC and then we can talk.

Regardless, that's the first I've ever heard of that proposal and the only thing a google search turns up is the wikipedia entry and a few posts on message boards (including this one) from over a year go. There's no need for even more excess office space in Manhattan, especially in the form of some ridiculously large tower.

lol the FFA isn't the reason why theirs no 2000 foot buildings in NYC. And that limit only works if theres a airport around. NIMBA kills buildings in New York. Name one building here killed by the FAA.

hey evryone. i've been working on the diagram, still not completely done but heres what i have done. i have to add the floors, floor no. important floors and functions.

http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/3952/1wtc201209.png


if anyhting is missing please notify me and i will fix it asap. i need more updates beofre i can update the drawing. once office floors are started (mid january) updates should be alot more often

lol, nice. i noticed the esb is STRs paper model lol, and the measuring tape is reis:)

HD cam is frozen (I guess literally)

So what is the plan with snow all over the site? Do they shovel, de-ice, or wait for a thaw?

lol the FFA isn't the reason why theirs no 2000 foot buildings in NYC. And that limit only works if theres a airport around. NIMBA kills buildings in New York. Name one building here killed by the FAA.

Not sure about NYC but the FAA has killed or limited building heights in other areas... A supertall in Las Vegas and another in Nashville if memory serves correct...

NIMBY's (Not In My Backyard) do kill many building though... Will NYC ever have a Burg Dubai type building? Who knows? La Guardia does have flight paths over Manhattan so the FAA will have a say... we shall see if a exception to the 2,000 foot rule is ever applied for...

My two cents!

BTW... back on topic... that steel sure has given Freedom Tower some personality in a short period of time!

I want you to learn the story of this man, Bohdan Chmielnicki. "The main reflector array, it can do anything!" he said. "What de fack" "What is who doing in where" He was a proud man, and he enjoyed eating polish people. He was a cossack and weighed over 25,000 tons (including his counterweight) according to the most recent USGS surveys. If he came to the third floor of the Freedom Tower, the 24 permiter columbs would not withstand his weight. "Uuuuopokay" "ummm,mmmm" you could always heare strange noises coming out of his belly.

:weird:

Not sure about NYC but the FAA has killed or limited building heights in other areas... A supertall in Las Vegas and another in Nashville if memory serves correct...

NIMBY's (Not In My Backyard) do kill many building though... Will NYC ever have a Burg Dubai type building? Who knows? La Guardia does have flight paths over Manhattan so the FAA will have a say... we shall see if a exception to the 2,000 foot rule is ever applied for...

My two cents!

BTW... back on topic... that steel sure has given Freedom Tower some personality in a short period of time!

Yeah FFA kills buildings but not in NYC thats my point. Build a 2000 footer in the middle of nowhere, the FAA couldn't do shit about. Who'd do that I would to make a point. And it's like I said, name one building killed by the FAA in New York. I bet you won't find one. I'm get back on topic.

morrongiello back in action
http://www.flickr.com/photos/morrongiello/

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4012/4203447533_93da936c31_b_d.jpg

Mods where getting hit with bulk spam. Where are you when need you. This jackass is kill space

Calm down. If no one reports the posts it's hard for the mods to find out. I just read this page by coincidence. I'm on it and he will be banned.

Calm down. If no one reports the posts it's hard for the mods to find out. I just read this page by coincidence. I'm on it and he will be banned.

LOL what makes you thank I'm not calm.

can see so many activity construction on that picture...4 cranes its working for 1 tower..

LOL what makes you thank I'm not calm.

'Where are the moderators when you need them'. I honestly think that's bullshit because I took a look in this thread 5 minutes later. If you want moderators to be faster > report posts.

Enough about this, keep it on topic.

'Where are the moderators when you need them'. I honestly think that's bullshit because I took a look in this thread 5 minutes later. If you want moderators to be faster > report posts.

Enough about this, keep it on topic.

Lighting up man you shouldn't take it personal. You took care of it that's all that matters. Today seems like a day off forever body with all this snow. Tomorrow a new day. Winds should be calmer but you never know in manhattan.

South core tower crane has jumped! Pictures by GreenwichBoy, WNY, 12-22-09.

http://wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=8123&d=1261493204

http://wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=8124&d=1261493218

South core tower crane has jumped! Pictures by GreenwichBoy, WNY, 12-22-09.

http://wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=8123&d=1261493204

http://wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=8124&d=1261493218

:okay: :cheers:

morrongiello back in action
http://www.flickr.com/photos/morrongiello/

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4012/4203447533_93da936c31_b_d.jpg

This got me thinking. Is there any rendering of the New WTC Complex with snow? I wonder how it would look like.

nice photos :)

:D:D great progress! when will it surpass the empire state building?

amazing

^^Is the Freedom tower the very last building being part of 1 WTC development to get built?

^^^? i don't quite know what you mean but one world trade centre aka freedom tower is the second building of the world trade centre to be built as the 7wtc building was already completed in 2006 i think. unless one of the smaller buildings of the world trade centre gets constructed faster than the freedom tower/1wtc it will be the second building in the complex to be built. incase you don't know but the freedom tower is part of a planned memorial for the 9/11 terrorist attacks and will be replacing the old world trade centre buildings/twin tower which were destroyed in the 9/11 terrorist attacks. i hope i explained it enough

@comet the cat if it is going to open by 2012 then it should surpass the empire state building's mast by about march 2011 and then surpass the esb antenna by june-september of 2011 depending on how long it take to raise the spire


all this is very rough estimates and are all depending on the fact that this tower does not go onhold at all or for very long and that the opening date is schedueled in early 2012 some time

^^Is the Freedom tower the very last building being part of 1 WTC development to get built?

7WTC was completed in 2006.

4WTC will be completed in 2012.

The National 9/11 Memorial will be completed in 2012.

1WTC a.k.a. the Freedom Tower will be completed in 2013.

2WTC, 3WTC, 5WTC and the final phases of the PATH hub and VHC will be completed in 2015 and beyond.

Too slow again.

And another one gets the ignore button!

It's progressing.

By GreenwichBoy, WNY, 12-23-09. Looks like they're getting ready to start the next level of steel!

http://wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=8126&d=1261577469

http://wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=8127&d=1261577490

http://wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=8128&d=1261577514

NEW YORK (1010 WINS/AP) -- Workers at ground zero won't have to go very far to grab a bite to eat.

They're getting a restaurant that's coming to them: Fast food at the top of the Freedom Tower they're building.

A Subway sandwich shop went up on Wednesday. It's attached to a construction crane that will move it higher and higher as each floor is completed.

The bright yellow concession trailer with an American flag will feed workers as they build 105 floors. That was almost the height of Windows on the World. Seventy-three employees died there on Sept. 11, 2001.

It'll take at least another two years for the Freedom Tower to be finished.

Only five floors have been built so far.
http://www.1010wins.com/pages/5960443.php?contentType=4&contentId=5279301

In the first and second shots from greenwichboy what are the extremly skinny red pieces standing up?