^^ Those are just the new floorplates.... All the floors beneath it have had the same.Oh i didn't know this is the first floor iv watched being built

That's amazing progress. I had no idea it was this far along.

As I understand it, most of the area shown in this photo will be greenspace surrounding the two huge fountains in the original towers' footprints. This will be nice.

http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/2439/march192010.png

http://gothamist.com/attachments/jen/2008_03_wtc1.jpg

http://www.national911memorial.org/site/PageServer?pagename=New_Home&cvridirect=true

I was at the trade center yesterday and all i can say is wow what beams they are using at 1 WTC. so so so thick, i was amazed u know. I left the D line at chambers street and approached GZ from the WTC7 Plaza and the small and fragile looking structure on pictures came out as a big big "tower " already. Am keen to see it finished and than come back.

We are getting up there these renderings make the base seem huge ( which it is) i wonder what construction workers think while looking up 2 this tower
http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/8201/wtc1i.jpg

I was there yesterday. What can I say? This will be HUGE!

^^^ yeah we pretty much figure that LOL

One year to get 61m, at this pace, it will topped out in 9 years.

That's amazing progress. I had no idea it was this far along.

As I understand it, most of the area shown in this photo will be greenspace surrounding the two huge fountains in the original towers' footprints. This will be nice.

http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/2439/march192010.png

http://gothamist.com/attachments/jen/2008_03_wtc1.jpg

http://www.national911memorial.org/site/PageServer?pagename=New_Home&cvridirect=true

Is the render looking back the other way, so the WTC1 is on the left?

^^ The top picture is looking to the west, the rendering is looking to the east.

ok, thought so:)
now it is really starting to rise at a reasonable pace.:nuts:

Is the render looking back the other way, so the WTC1 is on the left?

Yes. That appears to be the case.

Yes, but how much time did Empire State Building take to be built ? Because it was also under Economic Crisis and we can make a comparison. Except that during the Empire State Crisis, it wasn't a global crisis because in Europe, except England, there were no Global Economy.

So i expect they build it in the next few years.

Yes, but how much time did Empire State Building take to be built ? Because it was also under Economic Crisis and we can make a comparison. Except that during the Empire State Crisis, it wasn't a global crisis because in Europe, except England, there were no Global Economy.

13 months, a little over a year

13 months, a little over a year

It was a global crisis which originated in Europe and was triggered, in large part, by Austrian and German bank runs. The Weimar Republic was a financial disaster which paved the way for Hitler's rise to power.

finally is taking shape!..thanks to all for your contribution with the pics!..i'm from Argentina and is nice to know how's going this project!..greetings from Buenos Aires!.

Look here a new webcam
http://www.panynj.gov/wtcprogress/live-camera.html

The office floor steel is two stories high?

Yup. They're putting up two floors at a time.

^^ Nice. I assume they're prioritizing the steel floor for the upper one as the webcam shows.

We are getting up there these renderings make the base seem huge ( which it is) i wonder what construction workers think while looking up 2 this tower


All the workers I have talked to are honored to be working at the WTC. About the only negative thing is it's taking the PA and Silverstein too long tho get 2, 3 and the Transit Hub started.

One thing I have never seen on any rendering is the 2' by 3' recess at the 20th floor spandrel beam for the window washing track. The brackets for it can bee seen in many of the pics posted on the last few pages.

PS: The corner nodes well split into 3 columns, not 2. Also there are smaller nodes higher up, like on the 53rd floor.

By Sherpa, WNY, 3-22-10.

http://www.wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=8733&d=1269299603

what is the name of that building ?*white tower,looks tall enough...

what is the name of that building ?*white tower,looks tall enough...

123 Washington Street.

ok thx..

It was a global crisis which originated in Europe and was triggered, in large part, by Austrian and German bank runs. The Weimar Republic was a financial disaster which paved the way for Hitler's rise to power.

They're talking about how long it took to building the Empire State Building lol. Which was 13 months the record by the way. So who ever said how long it took, to build the ESB was making much sense.

It was a global crisis which originated in Europe and was triggered, in large part, by Austrian and German bank runs. The Weimar Republic was a financial disaster which paved the way for Hitler's rise to power.

Global, not really because in France, Spain, Italy, Greece, etc... so most of countries in Europe, they didn't participate to Global Financial, and think of Japan, China, United Emirates, so most of the world!

Today

http://www.panynj.gov/wtcprogress/live-camera.html

New updates ?

^^ No.

Help yourself by looking at the webcam (http://www.earthcam.com/swf/cam_player/enlarge_image.php?type=live&path=http://archives.earthcam.com/archives5/ecnetwork/us/ny/nyc/gzmpr/gzrobotic1.jpg&portrait=false&rotate=false&name=Live%20Aerial%20View&width=704&height=480&img_width=352&img_height=240). If people have updates the will post it here. It won't go faster if people ask all day.

Your link doesn't work.

Yes it does

It starts out black then comes in eventually.

Here are the better ones, anyway.

http://www.earthcam.com/clients/groundzero/groundZero.swf
http://rebuildgroundzero.org/webcam/rgz_000.jpg

Mods, please put all current webcam links on the first post of this page. That will helps people here to find the link instead have to ask for link repeatably. Thanks!

Mods, please put all current webcam links on the first post of this page. That will helps people here to find the link instead have to ask for link repeatably. Thanks!

i'm sure they'll still ask, even if it's right in front of them.

took these shots today -

http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/3473/dscn1810g.jpg

http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/1423/dscn1812x.jpg

http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/7458/dscn1817s.jpg

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/4585/dscn1818.jpg

http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/4840/dscn1827t.jpg

Nice shots! I'm curious though about the crawler crane on the north side. Are they doing any work on extending the Vesey St bridge? Seems like it's still open for the public.

Thanks for all the NY updates IU!

I used the Vesey St bridge but didn't notice any activity around it because they've now covered the sides of the bridge with plastic sheets. The only view I got from the bridge was at the corner of the south staircase on the WFC side. That's the place from where I took the 2nd last pic.

Mods, please put all current webcam links on the first post of this page. That will helps people here to find the link instead have to ask for link repeatably. Thanks!

Make me a list and I'll take care of it.

I love this construction.. it's so.. clean!

For all the trolling fags out there ...

Very smooth, very smooth.

Gay people read this forum too you know. As a moderator you should know better than to use someone's sexuality as an insult.

I'll be letting your superiors know about this. Your attitude stinks.

I think you owe the people of this forum an apology.

I used the Vesey St bridge but didn't notice any activity around it because they've now covered the sides of the bridge with plastic sheets. The only view I got from the bridge was at the corner of the south staircase on the WFC side. That's the place from where I took the 2nd last pic.

That's interesting news. I'd thought the bridge extension was supposed to down sometime in the 1Q 2010. Would've been nice if the PA had released their quarterly construction update.

...in the first shot by IndiansUnite...about 1/3 the way up on the SW corner, there is a beam that is crooked. I noticed it before...several pages back. Did it not fit right and they are going to fix it later, or was it left unattached for some other reason? I'm always amazed that all these pieces seem to fit together perfectly, even though I know the engineers and surveyors are great.

Very smooth, very smooth.

Gay people read this forum too you know. As a moderator you should know better than to use someone's sexuality as an insult.

I'll be letting your superiors know about this. Your attitude stinks.

I think you owe the people of this forum an apology.

Seriously. I've never seen a Mod drop such vehement hate so casually before.

* delete this post

Better update than Webcams do ! Thanks IndianUnite

delete

lol, people have such a hard time understanding that everything on this site will be built eventually. the question is when and in what form. it won't be a pit forever.

^^ At least it's getting built, though. Imo, it's my favorite building of the site. Anyway, back on topic, it seems like the diamond shape is beginning to be shown in the steel. Pretty cool stuff. :D

Also, apparently this keeps forcing me to go here? o_O I'm responding to HK's post down below. derp.

Well It's about bloody damn time!!!!!!
Port Authority ought to be ashamed of itself, it's all on those idiots!!!:bash:Yes, it's all the Port Authority's fault that Silverstein couldn't raise the money to finance private office towers that the lower Manhattan commercial real estate market doesn't want or need. God forbid a government agency actually tries to be responsible with the taxpayers' money and allocate it toward projects that serve a larger public good.

At least Mr. Silverstein was dedicated to getting the damn thing done as soon as possible. What a bunch of greedy penny pinching bastards!!! Now wonder what's wrong with this country nowadays.Because Silverstein has the most to lose by a delay, and he'll be the only one that gains if they get built.

From the initial sounds of things, it looks like the deal hews a lot closer to what Silverstein wanted than what the Port Authority wanted. Assuming he can find tenets, which is iffy, it looks like we have another case of government socializing all of the risk and all of the reward privatized into corporate hands.

micrip wrote:
.in the first shot by IndiansUnite...about 1/3 the way up on the SW corner, there is a beam that is crooked. I noticed it before...several pages back. Did it not fit right and they are going to fix it later, or was it left unattached for some other reason?
I noticed the same thing but I wonder if it just appears that way because the base of the building tilts slightly inwards which is how it was designed. Also, because the upper part of the building is going to have angles that also lean inwards maybe it just looks strange now but the angle will make sense as the floors progress upwards and the unusual shape of the building becomes more evident. I agree that it does look a little odd right now though.

looks like they starter building new 2 floors :):cheers:

World Trade Center Deal Reportedly Reached Between Larry Silverstein and Port Authority

MANHATTAN — Developer Larry Silverstein and the Port Authority have reached a tentative deal that could resolve 16 months of deadlock at Ground Zero, the New York Times reported.

The deal was still being worked out, and both sides were hoping to have it locked down in time for the agency board's Thursday afternoon meeting, the paper said.

At issue is the "final framework" for development at the site, the Times reported. Under the tentative deal, the Port Authority would finance construction of one tower, on Church Street. A second tower would be financed through funds raised by the Port Authority, Gov. David Paterson and Mayor Michael Bloomberg provided Silverstein comes up with $300 million and tenants for the building, the paper said.

The parties have also agreed to pool roughly $1 billion in remaining insurance money from the terror attacks and Liberty Bonds to ballast construction funding for both towers, according to the Times.

A third tower project would be put off for a later date.

Construction at 1 World Trade Center, the 1,776-foot tall skyscraper once known as the Freedom Tower, a transit center, the 9/11 memorial and other projects are ongoing.

The Port Authority's board was expected to meet at 1:30 p.m. Thursday.

Wrangling over who would pay for construction of the new office towers, and how much office space should be built in a down real estate market, delayed a development agreement for more than a year.

http://dnainfo.com/20100325/financial-district-battery-park-city/world-trade-center-deal-reportedly-reached-between-larry-silverstein-port-authority

*3 towers for WTC
*1 tower is delayed until market will recover

Probably stupid questions here but how many office floors is the lobby equivalent to?

Also, the next 4 floors are referred to as what?

what are they going to do with the building? do you know?

1wtc will be build, 4WTC will be build, 3rd WTC will be build (but there will be some restrictions), 2nd WTC will be delayed.

Final agreement WILL BE announced this Thursday. We will find out all details then. This might not be a 'very accurate" information.

The first beams of 2 new floors is already in place! I must say that I'm suprised by the speed now.:banana:

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4061/4460736365_e5a20a9bf6_b.jpg
Shane.Carlson (http://www.flickr.com/photos/thecarlsonfamily/)

World Trade Center Deal Reportedly Reached Between Larry Silverstein and Port Authority

MANHATTAN — Developer Larry Silverstein and the Port Authority have reached a tentative deal that could resolve 16 months of deadlock at Ground Zero, the New York Times reported.

The deal was still being worked out, and both sides were hoping to have it locked down in time for the agency board's Thursday afternoon meeting, the paper said.

At issue is the "final framework" for development at the site, the Times reported. Under the tentative deal, the Port Authority would finance construction of one tower, on Church Street. A second tower would be financed through funds raised by the Port Authority, Gov. David Paterson and Mayor Michael Bloomberg provided Silverstein comes up with $300 million and tenants for the building, the paper said.

The parties have also agreed to pool roughly $1 billion in remaining insurance money from the terror attacks and Liberty Bonds to ballast construction funding for both towers, according to the Times.

A third tower project would be put off for a later date.

Construction at 1 World Trade Center, the 1,776-foot tall skyscraper once known as the Freedom Tower, a transit center, the 9/11 memorial and other projects are ongoing.

The Port Authority's board was expected to meet at 1:30 p.m. Thursday.

Wrangling over who would pay for construction of the new office towers, and how much office space should be built in a down real estate market, delayed a development agreement for more than a year.

http://dnainfo.com/20100325/financial-district-battery-park-city/world-trade-center-deal-reportedly-reached-between-larry-silverstein-port-authority

*3 towers for WTC
*1 tower is delayed until market will recover




Well It's about bloody damn time!!!!!!
Port Authority ought to be ashamed of itself, it's all on those idiots!!!:bash:

At least Mr. Silverstein was dedicated to getting the damn thing done as soon as possible. What a bunch of greedy penny pinching bastards!!! Now wonder what's wrong with this country nowadays.

Great pic DinoVabec :) Thanks for that

"A third tower project would be put off for a later date." So tower 2 will be built?

Absolutely stunning picture.

"A third tower project would be put off for a later date." So tower 2 will be built?

yes, eventually but not now.

just release from the port authority not what we hoped! :ohno:
WTCPROGRESS.COMhttp://WTCPROGRESS.COM



Tower 4: The continued construction of Tower 4, which is expected to be completed in 2013. With approximately 60 percent of the tower being pre-leased to the Port Authority and City of New York, the Port Authority would provide a master lease for the project supporting the issuance of Silverstein's Liberty Bonds to finance a portion of the tower's construction costs. Any Port Authority payments made under the master lease would be reimbursed by Silverstein Properties.


Tower 3: The immediate construction of the Tower 3 transit and retail podium, with the construction of the office tower to follow so long as Silverstein Properties hits the following private-market triggers: (1) Raises $300 million of private unsupported equity, (2) Pre-leases 400,000 square feet of the office tower, and (3) Obtains private financing for the remaining cost of the tower without a full public backstop. To help Silverstein Properties obtain this private financing without a full public backstop, it would receive a capped public backstop of $390 million from the Port Authority, New York State and New York City, together with $210 million of equity from the City and the State of New York, with each public entity's contribution limited to a total of $200 million. Any payments under the backstop would be reimbursed by Silverstein Properties and the public sector entities would also have a future Tower 3 capital events participation. The City's contribution is to be paid for using foregone revenues that will not be collected if the tower does not go forward. Until the public backstop is removed, Silverstein Properties would not be entitled to take profits out of Tower 3.

Tower 2: The Tower 2 site would be built to at least street level under a plan to be jointly developed by the Port Authority and Silverstein Properties. This plan would preserve flexibility for the future development of the office tower driven by market demand.

Insurance: Silverstein Properties would use its remaining insurance proceeds toward the construction of Towers 3 and 4 and the payment of ground rent to the Port Authority.

Liberty Bonds: Silverstein Properties would use all of its Liberty Bonds for Towers 3 and 4.

Construction Partnership: Silverstein Properties and the Port Authority would jointly develop a plan to better integrate their construction teams given all of the interrelated work on the east side of the WTC site. This would include a more formal process of information-sharing, decision-making and schedule development and implementation, as well as reciprocal mechanisms relating to delay to provide investors, lenders and tenants with reasonable certainty of timely project delivery.

This is about the best news we could have hoped for right now. I'll take it. :)

I'm glad tower 3 will be built. It is my favourite design of the lot. :)

Pic by Lofter1 over at WNY.

The 16000 did it with about 10 feet to spare. The first of the third section of a corner node is in.
http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/WTC/1%20WTC/100325_1WTCCorner_07.jpg

Very smooth, very smooth.

Gay people read this forum too you know. As a moderator you should know better than to use someone's sexuality as an insult.

I'll be letting your superiors know about this. Your attitude stinks.

I think you owe the people of this forum an apology.


Lousy choice of words, Ni3lS! While it may not have been intentional, why not show a little class? It's really not that hard to do.

Pic by Lofter1 over at WNY.

The 16000 did it with about 10 feet to spare. The first of the third section of a corner node is in.
http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/WTC/1%20WTC/100325_1WTCCorner_07.jpgWow, amazing there starting that part now? im impressed :banana:

great pics! this is my favourite supertall project in the world at the moment. bold, classic design with a modern twist. very excited to see it contiue to progress!

Lousy choice of words, Ni3lS! While it may not have been intentional, why not show a little class? It's really not that hard to do.

seriously I don't know why he was allowed to become a mod, it's not like he contributed much besides a few lists which weren't useful once search started working again. And I haven't seen him contribute at all since he's become a mod

Lousy choice of words, Ni3lS! While it may not have been intentional, why not show a little class? It's really not that hard to do.

I usually don't express my opinion on matters like this, but I have to agree with everyone's comments. This was equivalent to using a racial slur. An apology to the board is in order.

micrip wrote:

I noticed the same thing but I wonder if it just appears that way because the base of the building tilts slightly inwards which is how it was designed. Also, because the upper part of the building is going to have angles that also lean inwards maybe it just looks strange now but the angle will make sense as the floors progress upwards and the unusual shape of the building becomes more evident. I agree that it does look a little odd right now though.

...it's definately crooked. The equivalent beams on the other 3 corners are level and in place.

Yes, it's all the Port Authority's fault that Silverstein couldn't raise the money to finance private office towers that the lower Manhattan commercial real estate market doesn't want or need. God forbid a government agency actually tries to be responsible with the taxpayers' money and allocate it toward projects that serve a larger public good.

Because Silverstein has the most to lose by a delay, and he'll be the only one that gains if they get built.

From the initial sounds of things, it looks like the deal hews a lot closer to what Silverstein wanted than what the Port Authority wanted. Assuming he can find tenets, which is iffy, it looks like we have another case of government socializing all of the risk and all of the reward privatized into corporate hands.

You are forgetting that the PA was WAY late in completing the excavation of the east bath tub! Had they finished on time, Silverstein could have gotten financing, since that was before the credit market collapsed. This really is the fault of the PA!

Some more of lofter1's pics from WNY, today.

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/WTC/1%20WTC/100325_1WTCCorner_09.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/WTC/1%20WTC/100325_1WTCCorner_16.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/WTC/1%20WTC/100325_1WTCCorner_19.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/WTC/1%20WTC/100325_1WTCCorner_26.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/WTC/1%20WTC/100325_1WTCCorner_40.jpg

Excellent updates!

I don't understand whats wrong trolls should be the only ones upset. They've been called trolls and fags all at once hmmm. Who to say how a insult is to be used. I've seen ppl throwing the word bitch around but I don't see anybody jumping to defend women. U guys need to get off it. cuz you know you used the word before, god knows I have back on topic.

This is it..I think 16000 won't work on the tower anymore...

By Morrongiello, 3-26-10. It's really growing now!

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2706/4464765967_f4c6bab1d1_b.jpg

http://www.flickr.com/photos/morrongiello/

This is it..I think 16000 won't work on the tower anymore...

16000 will be moved either this weekend or next week to smaller platform they build next to it.

Here's a construction schedule update from broadsheet.com. (through April 9th).

One World Trade Center

Steel erection and concrete placing operations (including off hours).
Paving of West Haul Road area adjacent to One WTC.
Start of Manitowoc 18000 crane disassembly and repositioning of Manitowoc 16000 crane.

Wait they didn't complete the first few office floors why are they doing that part now? :nuts:

You are forgetting that the PA was WAY late in completing the excavation of the east bath tub! Had they finished on time, Silverstein could have gotten financing, since that was before the credit market collapsed. This really is the fault of the PA!The arbitration panel ruled that the Port Authority's delays were irrelevant in Silverstein's ability to get financing. Whatever tentative financing he could have lined up would have undoubtedly fallen through when the real estate market collapsed, and we'd be in roughly the same position we're in now.

The problem is, and has always been, that no one in the private sector is willing to commit to financing speculative office space that the lower Manhattan real estate market neither wants nor needs for the foreseeable future.

Originally Posted by Tumbling Dice View Post
Very smooth, very smooth.

Gay people read this forum too you know. As a moderator you should know better than to use someone's sexuality as an insult.

I'll be letting your superiors know about this. Your attitude stinks.

I think you owe the people of this forum an apology.

Lousy choice of words, Ni3lS! While it may not have been intentional, why not show a little class? It's really not that hard to do.

I usually don't express my opinion on matters like this, but I have to agree with everyone's comments. This was equivalent to using a racial slur. An apology to the board is in order.

seriously I don't know why he was allowed to become a mod, it's not like he contributed much besides a few lists which weren't useful once search started working again. And I haven't seen him contribute at all since he's become a mod


I got infracted for my post by Ni3lS and threatened with a ban just to add insult upon insult.

Jan has been informed and the matter is in his hands now.

Anyway back on topic, 3 corner nodes in place, this baby is taking shape nicely. Musical crane time.

I want a twin of Freedom tower, instead of 3WTC. I think, it could be nice.:) Third tower is nice too. Simply 2 identical towers to see more habitual.
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/8477/view1ry6.jpg

From the British Press today.

True Grit: America's daring ironworkers walk the girders just like their forefathers as they rebuild at Ground Zero (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1260816/Pictured-Americas-daring-ironworkers-stride-girders-hundreds-feet-ground-Ground-Zero.html)

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/03/26/article-0-08DF78B7000005DC-518_634x406.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/03/26/article-0-08DF78C7000005DC-277_634x421.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/03/26/article-1260816-08DF78EB000005DC-535_634x770.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/03/26/article-0-08DF5120000005DC-317_634x430.jpg

Now THAT are the pictures I've been waiting for to see! Indeed just like old times. Thanks for posting.

Wow amazing pictures! Those guys are really not scare...

Does anybody know who's the Cladding company for the Freedom Tower?

CURTAIN WALL - 20TH FLOOR TO ROOF- BENSON INDUSTRIES, PORTLAND OR $148,750,000 .

GLAZED ENCLOSURE AT PODIUM- SOLERA CONSTRUCTION, INC./DCM ERECTORS, INC., A JOINT VENTURE NEW YORK NY $76,000,000

From the British Press today.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/03/26/article-0-08DF78B7000005DC-518_634x406.jpg


^^This photo brings back the good old days...

http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/6323/rockefellercentreccebbe.jpg (http://img704.imageshack.us/i/rockefellercentreccebbe.jpg/)

Love that pictures too! I admire these constructors for their courage to walk on the beams without any protection. I couldn't do it myself. :lol:

^^ In Spain (and I am sure that in United States too, a more serious country than mine), you have to wear a safety harness. I can't see where his harness is attached to. (Perhaps I can't see it due to the angle of the photo).

^^ In Spain (and I am sure that in United States too, a more serious country than mine), you have to wear a safety harness. I can't see where his harness is attached to. (Perhaps I can't see it due to the angle of the photo).

IMO HE is a SHE.

See the red safty line draped along the beam ? It may be hard to see in the pic but she is tied off.

IMO HE is a SHE.

See the red safty line draped along the beam ? It may be hard to see in the pic but she is tied off.

Sorry for my limited vision :lol: ;)

OK, who cares? :)


Not important.

I care

And yes I think it's important because there are many accidents in the building industry. Accidents also often causes delays...

I was surprised to see them walking around like that without any safety measures. Good to know they are tied to that red safety cord.

^^This photo brings back the good old days...

http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/6323/rockefellercentreccebbe.jpg (http://img704.imageshack.us/i/rockefellercentreccebbe.jpg/)


Love these pictures

http://0x5e.0xd2.0xec.0xaf/pic.png

^^This photo brings back the good old days...

http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/6323/rockefellercentreccebbe.jpg (http://img704.imageshack.us/i/rockefellercentreccebbe.jpg/)


Love these pictures

http://0x5e.0xd2.0xec.0xaf:40500/pic.png

yep, these are classic pictures. :cool:

IMO HE is a SHE.
On the website it said "An ironworker, top, walks on a beam as HE guides another beam suspended from a crane at the site"

They got it wrong, I have seen her on other job sites, she is most assuredly a she and very good at her job, a credit to her trade and all Local 40 members.

I assure you, she can kick your ass.

Love these pictures

http://0x5e.0xd2.0xec.0xaf:40500/pic.png

Sounds so nice ya gotta say it twice .:)

Estimated time for the Deutsche Bank building to be gone?

Estimated time for the Deutsche Bank building to be gone?

Sometime later this year :)

Estimated time for the Deutsche Bank building to be gone?

I don't think there is an exact date, but Bovis Lend Lease has really sped up things sense they have taken over the de-construction.

I don't think it really matters when it's finished, anyway. It looks like there's a good chance of construction progress for T3 and T4, but even T2 is being put on hold until the financial market recovers and there is market demand for the building. And you can bet that T5 is well behind T2 it terms of priority.

So, who really cares how long it takes them to dismantle the building. Even if they dismantled it completely tomorrow, construction for T5 isn't even going to start for another 3 or 4 years, at least.

I don't think it really matters when it's finished, anyway. It looks like there's a good chance of construction progress for T3 and T4, but even T2 is being put on hold until the financial market recovers and there is market demand for the building. And you can bet that T5 is well behind T2 it terms of priority.

So, who really cares how long it takes them to dismantle the building. Even if they dismantled it completely tomorrow, construction for T5 isn't even going to start for another 3 or 4 years, at least.Yea but its really ugly and an eyesore :bash:

Is the floor area of the top floor the same as the 20th floor, but is turned 90 degrees?

don't worry Draegen it will be just as nice when it's a parking lot lol

Is the floor area of the top floor the same as the 20th floor, but is turned 90 degrees?It's smaller, and at a 45 degree angle from the 20th floor.

I don't think it really matters when it's finished, anyway. It looks like there's a good chance of construction progress for T3 and T4, but even T2 is being put on hold until the financial market recovers and there is market demand for the building. And you can bet that T5 is well behind T2 it terms of priority.

So, who really cares how long it takes them to dismantle the building. Even if they dismantled it completely tomorrow, construction for T5 isn't even going to start for another 3 or 4 years, at least.

Part of the VSC will be located around the former Deutsche site. So it's vital that it be dismantled so the security center can be finished on time.

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I want a twin of Freedom tower, instead of 3WTC. I think, it could be nice.:) Third tower is nice too. Simply 2 identical towers to see more habitual.
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/8477/view1ry6.jpg

I agree with you, it would be nice :)

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Whats the hight of the spire?

Deal For New Ground Zero Skyscrapers

http://news.sky.com/sky-news/content/StaticFile/jpg/2010/Mar/Week4/15583757.jpg

A deal to finance the rebuilding of New York's World Trade Centre site has been agreed and will lead to new skyscrapers at Ground Zero.

The agreement ends 16-months of wrangling between the port authority, the state of New York and developer Larry Silverstein.

Mr Silverstein signed a 99-year lease on the World Trade Centre just two months before it was destroyed on September 11, 2001.

He plans to build two new towers at the 16-acre site alongside a 1,776-foot tall tower which is already being built by the other parties.

Construction has begun on one of Mr Silverstein's skyscrapers but progress has been slow because of the disputes.

The developer's third tower will not receive public funding and so is likely to be delayed until the property market improves.

Mr Silverstein, the port authority and Mayor Michael Bloomberg on behalf of New York state, have agreed to pump more than £600m of cash into the project.

"This is a great day for New York. Finally, we're going to fill that hole in the ground," said Mayor Bloomberg.

"For a long time, everybody thought this was never going to get done. It is very difficult to get everybody on the same page, but I think now we are really making progress."

The port authority will finance two of the towers and other developments including the 9/11 memorial.

The entire site will be built to street level to avoid leaving a hole in the ground where the final tower will be constructed.


Source: Sky News (http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Business/Ground-Zero-Rebuilding-Plans-Agreed-Finance-Found-For-Replacement-World-Trade-Centre-Towers/Article/201003415583772?f=rss)

Good news. :banana:

kin hell thats grown

For those who missed it, the first of the four supercolumns just went in:

http://img6.glowfoto.com/images/2010/03/28-0753274692L.png

Is the floor area of the top floor the same as the 20th floor, but is turned 90 degrees?

It will only be about half as big. If you look at the tower from north, south, east or west it looks the same width on top as on the bottom. But the top you see is the diagonal of a 141" square, while the bottom is the side of a 200' square. So the top is only half the area.
If you look at the building from 45 degrees off, it looks completely different. Then the bottom looks 282' wide and the top only looks 141' wide. (approximate measurements. Zen knows them down to the Plank unit)

[QUOTE=RKOwens44;54179927]For those who missed it, the first of the four supercolumns just went in:

RK, Where are these supercolumns located?

Thanks,
Bugs

For those who missed it, the first of the four supercolumns just went in:

http://img6.glowfoto.com/images/2010/03/28-0753274692L.png

Can u reupload this foto?:|

For those who missed it, the first of the four supercolumns just went in:

That's progress alright. :cheers:

Anyways, your photo doesn't allow hotlinking, so I'll just post the link below:

http://img6.glowfoto.com/images/2010/03/28-0753274692L.png

Not bothering to snip, then upload it

What's the explanation for those columns? They look large enough to be part of a tower themselves.

the photo is still not working so many of us dont know what your talking about super columns...

This is madness. Someone explain.

The site doesn't support hotlink, so you have to copy and paste it instead of just clicking it :cheers:

So wait, they're lowering it through the roof of the PATH station? What's it for?

the photo is still not working so many of us dont know what your talking about super columns...

Sorry, this should work...

http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/9657/supercolumn.png

And what I mean by super column is that the PATH mezzanine will have four super columns in it. A couple years ago, the big debate was whether the PATH mezzanine should be column-free (as it was originally planned), or whether it should be simplified with a handful of large columns which would make things cheaper and allow the memorial to be completed on time. They decided to add four super columns, and the first one went in this morning.

I was at Ground Zero couple days ago. I must say I was very surprised that they actually have something built. For the past 9 years, I always used to be disappointed that Ground Zero was just a hole. Not anymore.

I'm looking forward to a great WTC site.

I still would have preferred if they had built the twin towers just taller.

lol the people are super tiny compared to super column...

is that another one on the white cabbed truck to the north?

Nice job grabbing that screen shot.

Sorry, this should work...

http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/9657/supercolumn.png

And what I mean by super column is that the PATH mezzanine will have four super columns in it.

FYI: With its highest floor slab at 240 feet and its highest column at around 243 feet above street level, 1WTC is now roughly the same height as the original 3WTC Marriot Hotel, which rose 242 feet above West Street.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/75/Wtc_arial_march2001.jpg/424px-Wtc_arial_march2001.jpg

This is madness. Someone explain.

http://img.youtube.com/vi/-qR0Uke2XNI/0.jpg

It will only be about half as big. If you look at the tower from north, south, east or west it looks the same width on top as on the bottom. But the top you see is the diagonal of a 141" square, while the bottom is the side of a 200' square. So the top is only half the area.
If you look at the building from 45 degrees off, it looks completely different. Then the bottom looks 282' wide and the top only looks 141' wide. (approximate measurements. Zen knows them down to the Plank unit)


Thanks... (of course it is 45 degrees)

I was at Ground Zero couple days ago. I must say I was very surprised that they actually have something built. For the past 9 years, I always used to be disappointed that Ground Zero was just a hole. Not anymore.

I'm looking forward to a great WTC site.

I still would have preferred if they had built the twin towers just taller.

Oh if you move quick you can catch silverstein and bloomberg I'm sure they'll change it to your liking anything to keep you happy.

ACRE-SIZED SIGNATURE REFLECTING POOLS FOR NATIONAL SEPTEMBER 11 MEMORIAL FULLY FRAMED IN STEEL

Date: Mar 29, 2010

Press Release Number: 17

Nearly 100 Percent of the Steel for the Memorial Installed to Date;

Real-Time Video Through EarthCam's Webcam at national911memorial.org

And Through the Port Authority's WTC Web site at www.wtcprogress.com (http://www.wtcprogress.com/)

The National September 11 Memorial & Museum and the Port Authority of New York & New Jersey today announced that the two signature reflecting pools for the Memorial are completely framed in steel.

To date, 99.8 percent of the steel for the project has been installed and nearly 60 percent of concrete has been poured. When construction is completed, the total amount of steel will equal 8,151 tons - more than was used to build the Eiffel Tower - and the total amount of concrete will be 49,900 cubic yards. The Port Authority is building the Memorial and Museum on behalf of the Memorial Foundation.

"The Memorial pools are now clearly defined in steel, marking an exciting and visible milestone," 9/11 Memorial President Joe Daniels said. "The 9/11 Memorial is a true marker of progress at the World Trade Center site with these two pools helping to fulfill a promise to rebuild and replace the void left in the wake of the 9/11 attacks."

Port Authority Chairman Anthony R. Coscia said, "As the lead builder of the public projects on the World Trade Center site, we take enormous pride in seeing key parts of the Memorial take shape. We look ahead to meeting our commitment of opening the Memorial on the 10th anniversary."

Port Authority Executive Director Chris Ward said, "Opening the 9/11 Memorial on the 10th anniversary of the attacks is our highest priority, and the framing of the signature pools is a tangible sign that we are continuing to make significant progress to meet our commitment."

In the coming weeks, the granite stone lining the Memorial pools will begin to be installed within the pools. The Memorial pools are expected to be the largest man-made waterfalls in the country, pumping 52,000 gallons of recycled water per minute. The mammoth pools will sit within the original footprints of the fallen Twin Towers.

Surrounding the two Memorial pools will be a grove of nearly 400 oak trees. The trees are currently growing at a holding site in New Jersey and will begin to be planted later this year.

Ninety percent of the trade contracts for the project have been awarded to date. The Memorial is on schedule to open on 9/11/2011. The Memorial Museum is expected to open a year later.



ABOUT THE NATIONAL SEPTEMBER 11 MEMORIAL & MUSEUM

The National September 11 Memorial & Museum is the not-for-profit corporation created to oversee the design, raise the funds, and program and operate the Memorial & Museum at the World Trade Center site. The Memorial & Museum will be located on eight of the 16 acres of the site.

The Memorial will remember and honor the nearly 3,000 people who died in the horrific attacks of February 26, 1993, and September 11, 2001. The design, created by Michael Arad and Peter Walker, consists of two pools formed in the footprints of the original Twin Towers and a plaza of trees.

The Museum will display monumental artifacts linked to the events of September 11, while presenting intimate stories of loss, compassion, reckoning and recovery that are central to telling the story of the 2001 attacks and the aftermath. It will communicate key messages that embrace both the specificity and the universal implications of the events of 9/11; document the impact of those events on individual lives, as well as on local, national, and international communities; and explore the continuing significance of these events for our global community.

About the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey

The Port Authority of New York and New Jersey operates many of the busiest and most important transportation links in the region. They include John F. Kennedy International, Newark Liberty International, LaGuardia, Stewart International and Teterboro airports; AirTrain JFK and AirTrain Newark; the George Washington Bridge and Bus Station; the Lincoln and Holland tunnels; the three bridges between Staten Island and New Jersey; the PATH (Port Authority Trans-Hudson) rapid-transit system; Port Newark; the Elizabeth-Port Authority Marine Terminal; the Howland Hook Marine Terminal on Staten Island; the Port Authority Auto Marine Terminal; the Brooklyn Piers/Red Hook Container Terminal; and the Port Authority Bus Terminal in midtown Manhattan. The agency also owns the 16-acre World Trade Center site in Lower Manhattan and is a partner in the Access to the Region's Core tunnel project.

New amazing video of the construction up there...

http://www.panynj.gov/wtcprogress/video-gallery.html

Sorry, this should work...

http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/9657/supercolumn.png

And what I mean by super column is that the PATH mezzanine will have four super columns in it. A couple years ago, the big debate was whether the PATH mezzanine should be column-free (as it was originally planned), or whether it should be simplified with a handful of large columns which would make things cheaper and allow the memorial to be completed on time. They decided to add four super columns, and the first one went in this morning.

That is not a super column, it is way way too small and in the wrong place. The supers go in the Hub proper, not the PATH station.

One could drive an Indy car through a super laying on it's side. Well ya could if it didn't have diaphragms.

They really need the 18000 at the Hub site before they do any serious lifting.

It's one of the four columns added by Calatrava to replace the vierendeel trusses on each side. Two of them were installed. If you're in the PATH Station they can be seen coming through the stairwells. The stairwells had to be altered to accommodate them, all while (as was mentioned above) commuters move through the station.

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2008/10/03/nyregion/03.calatrava.cityroom.01.jpg

The rain's supposed to stop by Wednesday. :D I'm so excited that the tower's finally on the office floors.

Are you sure it's not one of the four columns which were added to the redesign a couple years back? Maybe I'm using the term "supercolumn" incorrectly when referring to what I'm talking about, but I mean the columns highlighted in red below:

http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/383/supers.png

It looks like it's in the exact same location as in the render, plus there are no other columns anywhere near that location in the renders. What else could it be for?

WOW THAT IS AMAZING

Are you sure it's not one of the four columns which were added to the redesign a couple years back? Maybe I'm using the term "supercolumn" incorrectly when referring to what I'm talking about, but I mean the columns highlighted in red below:

http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/383/supers.png

It looks like it's in the exact same location as in the render, plus there are no other columns anywhere near that location in the renders. What else could it be for?

It is one of the columns added to the design, but it is not a super column.

That column they put in the other day looks to be about as big as the columns supporting the west corridor with a bigger base plate. A super column is about 20 times that size in cross section. I wish I could post a pic from the prints.

Me looking through the prints, "HOLY SHIT !!!!!!!, OH MY GOD !!!!!!!!!!!"

Mind you I have been in construction for awhile.

All the steel that has gone up for Tower One well look tiny and weak compared to the steel for the Hub. But that is because the Hub steel needs to span great distances and carry considerable loads. It is not a neat and clean design like a tower.

ah, so now the game is on, this will be like clockwork with the office floors beginning!

ah, so now the game is on, this will be like clockwork with the office floors beginning!

yea, bit more systematic so progress will be more apparent day to day, hoping that anywayz.:cheers:

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I just hope the world stays as it is.

I noticed there are one beam isn't connected to other beams on that left side of this picture.

Zen, so where are those supercolumns you're referring to going to go in at? The central oculus area of the hub?

Also, do you have any idea what those three long steel beams (or column) is going to be used for that are located directly adjacent to the hole where that hub column just went into? They have been sitting on that temp platform for days.

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...the unattached beam I referred to in my post a few days ago is plainly visible in this shot. Anyone know what is up with that...did it not fit properly (too short or long) and has to be replaced?

It was made too short or too long. It happened to a lot of those beams in the base. It'll be replaced by a correctly fitting one like the others were.

Can't wait to see these towers on my visit to NY

Can't wait to see these towers on my visit to NY

I'm too.:)

It was made too short or too long. It happened to a lot of those beams in the base. It'll be replaced by a correctly fitting one like the others were.

How long can they put off doing that though?

I'm guessing it's not critical as it's been like that for a few months.

Can't wait to see these towers on my visit to NY

[2] :cheers:

It was made too short or too long. It happened to a lot of those beams in the base. It'll be replaced by a correctly fitting one like the others were. Quality construction at its best! I cant believe they made beams incorrectly. With all the technology available and refinishing fit perfectly without needing rework. :nuts:

Quality construction at its best! I cant believe they made beams incorrectly. With all the technology available and refinishing fit perfectly without needing rework. :nuts:

Maybe you'd like to try assembling a several thousand ton 200 foot wide steel frame without having a single hole off by more than 1/8 of an inch. Fixing the occasional tiny misalignment a small task.
They're not building a watch.

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It sure took some time to get out of the ground but it seems its racing Skyward now! Amazing to see this one rise!

They're not building a watch.

if WTC 1 was scaled down to the size of a watch, a 1/4 inch tolerance would be equivalent to about 2.5 micrometres, which is pretty small (probably smaller than the tolerances for a watch).:)

is the gap in the new floors on the west side there for the red crawler crane, or is it just the last part they are filling in?

is the gap in the new floors on the west side there for the red crawler crane, or is it just the last part they are filling in?

I'd assumed they were just giving the east side priority so the 16000 crane could get to the next job. If they put the west 23/24 corners up before they fill in the west 21/22 floors, I guess I was wrong.

. . . and then there were three !

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t183/CAT345BL/1%20world%20trade/corner%20node%20lift/765.jpg
Photo taken today by Sal Schiano over at WNY.

The 18000 has one lift left.

Nomadd22, they left out that section to clear the jib of the 18000.

Ok. I was wrong. First time ever.

Why are they doin that why cant they just finish the other parts first :bash: :bash:

Why are they doin that why cant they just finish the other parts first :bash: :bash:

They already answered your question. It's so the PA can get rid of the 18000 like they did the 16000, and then install the third tower crane.

Because the only crane on site that can lift the corner node sections is the 18000.

PS: the little section of corner node in the photo I posted weighs over 50 tons.

I should refresh before posting.

March 31st, 2010

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Its really coming together now. Looking great!

Why are they doin that why cant they just finish the other parts first :bash: :bash:

Relax just sit back and enjoy the ride the next couple of days should be quite eventful... no rain the forecast.

It's not very wide, is it?

It's almost as wide as the original twin towers were. You're out of your mind.

It's not very wide, is it?

I can see why you are asking.
It's because the bus seen on the last photo is very close to the photographer, that's why the tower look slim :)

http://nymag.com/daily/intel/20070802freedomlobby.jpg
^^
The lobby and entrance

http://z.about.com/d/architecture/1/0/9/h/freedomtowerLobby_06-27-06.jpg
^^
Lobby of Freedom Tower

http://z.about.com/d/architecture/1/0/-/i/freedomtowerbelow189000-hr.jpg
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Elevators lead down to the lower lobby of Freedom Tower

http://z.about.com/d/architecture/1/0/E/h/freedomtowerSection_06-27-06.jpg
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Section of Freedom Tower

http://z.about.com/d/architecture/1/0/K/h/memorialmem_no_trees.jpg
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Looking up from North Tower Bedrock to Freedom Tower

http://z.about.com/d/architecture/1/0/P/h/memorialwtc_mem_1_lg.jpg
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Entering the new World Trade Center Memorial

http://z.about.com/d/architecture/1/0/T/h/memorialwtc_mem_9_lg.jpg
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Memorial Plaza at night

http://z.about.com/d/architecture/1/0/M/h/memorialplaza_parapet_06-06.jpg
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Drawing of the Memorial Plaza Parapet

http://z.about.com/d/architecture/1/0/6/h/freedomtowerGroundFloorPlan_06-27-06.jpg
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Site Plan Drawing for the ground floor

http://z.about.com/d/architecture/1/0/8/q/MuseumPavilion.jpg
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Exterior of the September 11 Museum Pavilion

http://z.about.com/d/architecture/1/0/L/h/memorialmuseum_06-06.jpg
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Drawing of the World Trade Center Memorial Museum

http://z.about.com/d/architecture/1/0/Q/h/memorialwtc_mem_2_lg.jpg
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This drawing shows the south footprint of Memorial Hall

http://z.about.com/d/architecture/1/0/I/h/memorial_hall_06-06.jpg
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World Trade Center Memorial Hall

http://z.about.com/d/architecture/1/0/i/h/tower2conceptsketch204000-pu.jpg
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Concept Sketch for World Trade Center Tower 2

Thank pics from http://architecture.about.com/

There pretty cool although the copy and pasted people from the 80s and 90s were a little annoying :lol:

Wow, Just think in 20 years this place is gong to be manhattan period. It is going to be THE symbol of new york. I can just imagine now concerts playing here, every year on september 11th the huge memorial service with f16 flybys (maybe) and 21 gun salutes that will become a part of america for the rest of its existance and we witnessed it all. I can picture turning on the news at night in my sixtys and seeing a reporter that wasnt even born when this happened doing the news under the shade of trees and with the sound of two roaring waterfalls behind them. Every family that visits new york will have family photos taken here, even movies will be shot here. It used to be that you went to new york and went to the top of the empire state or the rock and that was the best part, but now you can still do all that and then go to lower manhattan and view the wtc from the bedrock its built on. In this country we take a thorn directly through our heart and turn around and plant a rose right where it happened. Think about it the worst tragedy that has ever happened on american soil is now going to be the most beautiful part of any city and it just happens to be in lower manhattan which is the greatest city the world has ever seen. I dont think anything like this has ever happened before. WOWWW....o yea and dont forget our kids woudlnt have lived through any of this and this will be the manhattan that they grow up knowing as it is, just like how none of us have never known a new york without the empire state building.

Wow, Just think in 20 years this place is gong to be manhattan period. It is going to be THE symbol of new york. I can just imagine now concerts playing here, every year on september 11th the huge memorial service with f16 flybys (maybe) and 21 gun salutes that will become a part of america for the rest of its existance and we witnessed it all. I can picture turning on the news at night in my sixtys and seeing a reporter that wasnt even born when this happened doing the news under the shade of trees and with the sound of two roaring waterfalls behind them. Every family that visits new york will have family photos taken here, even movies will be shot here. It used to be that you went to new york and went to the top of the empire state or the rock and that was the best part, but now you can still do all that and then go to lower manhattan and view the wtc from the bedrock its built on. In this country we take a thorn directly through our heart and turn around and plant a rose right where it happened. Think about it the worst tragedy that has ever happened on american soil is now going to be the most beautiful part of any city and it just happens to be in lower manhattan which is the greatest city the world has ever seen. I dont think anything like this has ever happened before. WOWWW....o yea and dont forget our kids woudlnt have lived through any of this and this will be the manhattan that they grow up knowing as it is, just like how none of us have never known a new york without the empire state building.

You should be a poet.

Wow, Just think in 20 years this place is gong to be manhattan period. It is going to be THE symbol of new york. I can just imagine now concerts playing here, every year on september 11th the huge memorial service with f16 flybys (maybe) and 21 gun salutes that will become a part of america for the rest of its existance and we witnessed it all. I can picture turning on the news at night in my sixtys and seeing a reporter that wasnt even born when this happened doing the news under the shade of trees and with the sound of two roaring waterfalls behind them. Every family that visits new york will have family photos taken here, even movies will be shot here. It used to be that you went to new york and went to the top of the empire state or the rock and that was the best part, but now you can still do all that and then go to lower manhattan and view the wtc from the bedrock its built on. In this country we take a thorn directly through our heart and turn around and plant a rose right where it happened. Think about it the worst tragedy that has ever happened on american soil is now going to be the most beautiful part of any city and it just happens to be in lower manhattan which is the greatest city the world has ever seen. I dont think anything like this has ever happened before. WOWWW....o yea and dont forget our kids woudlnt have lived through any of this and this will be the manhattan that they grow up knowing as it is, just like how none of us have never known a new york without the empire state building.

I sincerely fucking hope so. However the planes will be different, the F16 is being replaced by the F22 and F35. But thats a topic for a different site.

Who has changed the name of the cities in all ten last subjected projects ??? Here, it's written "Amsterdamm_ One World Trade Center_ 789m_144F" ???????

Lol, it's a good joke !

Happy First of April !!!

Happy First of April !!!

:lol: :lol:

AMSTERDAM | One World Trade Center | 789m | 1776ft | 144 fl | U/C

Hey, originally New York was New Amsterdam after all :-)

lol Amsterdam:lol:

789 meters, hell yey :banana:

Never heard that Amsterdam is the highrise capital of the world? ;) :D

Finally Amsterdam gets a decent skyscraper! :)

wow, since when did Amsterdam get a Supertall?

Nice try guys on the April fools, though it was feeble. Feels sorry for the guy who's going to rename them back. We should carry out an backlash and post on topics from pg 3-4. Make life hell for the person renaming the topic :D

Also I'm wondering what is the current height of the tower is?

good one :lol:

Too much 1st of April. You should consider to do the same the 28th of December, like Spain and Southamerica. And in Spain we would have to make jokes today. Everybody would be really shocked! :D

Now we're talking! I was wondering about this when I saw that enormous ship carrying the first 20 floors of the WTC last night trough the canals of Amsterdam.

Unfortunately... those 20 floors were the most expensive in the world... you had to sacrifice all you bikes to get hem :lol:

Unfortunately... those 20 floors were the most expensive in the world... you had to sacrifice all you bikes to get hem :lol:

Yes I heard that we have to melt our bikes into new steel for the next floors :(

In France too, we joke today because the date is more something from Latin culture !

wow, since when did Amsterdam get a Supertall?

Nice try guys on the April fools, though it was feeble. Feels sorry for the guy who's going to rename them back. We should carry out an backlash and post on topics from pg 3-4. Make life hell for the person renaming the topic :D

Also I'm wondering what is the current height of the tower is?

OHNOES. It's gonna be so hard to rename them all. Who did this?!

There pretty cool although the copy and pasted people from the 80s and 90s were a little annoying :lol:

haha i second that:ohno:

Come to think of it, didn't one of the WTC1 designs have windmills in the top?

yes 2 of the old renders did

By GreenwichBoy, WNY, 4-1-10.

http://www.wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=8793&d=1270167050

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lol Amsterdam:lol:

789 meters, hell yey :banana:

+1 :righton::righton::righton:

Amsterdam gets the tallest tower in Europe.
Congratulations !!!

Sooo, here's some updates on 1WTC: the Port Authority has released their 4th quarter report, even though they've already passed the 1st quarter mark for this year. Oh well, better late than never.

http://www.panynj.gov/wtcprogress/quarterly-reports.html

The delay was ridiculous, but judging by Chris Ward's cover letter I'm guessing they delayed the report until they had a settlement with Silverstein Properties.

EDIT: I found this comparison from the 4Q 2009 Report particularly striking:
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/6190/4q2009reportcompare.jpg

The delay was ridiculous, but judging by Chris Ward's cover letter I'm guessing they delayed the report until they had a settlement with Silverstein Properties.

EDIT: I found this comparison from the 4Q 2009 Report particularly striking:
1 WTC is has much more progress than that ^^


EDIT: This is more like it
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/5428/wtfcu.png (http://img215.imageshack.us/i/wtfcu.png/)
December 31st 2009 and march 31st 2010 not my images

Some pics taken today(4/2/2010) by me:

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since were in agreement about the 1wtc, how many of u will vote obama in 2012 :banana:

^Welcome to the forum, but there are threads elsewhere which would be more appropriate for politics not directly related to the construction of this tower.

since were in agreement about the 1wtc, how many of u will vote obama in 2012 :banana:ughh not me he has been horrible

The last time I checked, President Obama wasn't relevant to 1 WTC. :P

To bring things on topic once again, if you zoom in above the Winter Gardens, you can see 1 WTC. Taken from Jersey City on April 1st.

http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2010/092/a/5/Lonliness_by_Desparye.jpg

The last time I checked, President Obama wasn't relevant to 1 WTC. :P

To bring things on topic once again, if you zoom in above the Winter Gardens, you can see 1 WTC. Taken from Jersey City on April 1st.

http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2010/092/a/5/Lonliness_by_Desparye.jpg

I don't understand why they need 2 Goldman Sachs HQ across form each other , does that even make any sense? Anyway , i hope to go the WTC on Monday:)

I don't understand why they need 2 Goldman Sachs HQ across form each other , does that even make any sense? Anyway , i hope to go the WTC on Monday:)

I was thinking the exact same thing while I was there. :P Maybe it's because technically they're in different states.

Anyway, cladding starts Q1 2011, right?

It's really climbing up there!
NEW YORK FTW!

it's in progress ^^

Nice to see it progressing :D

I was thinking the exact same thing while I was there. :P Maybe it's because technically they're in different states.

Anyway, cladding starts Q1 2011, right?

Q3 2010. We'll probably start seeing glass in late summer.

since were in agreement about the 1wtc, how many of u will vote obama in 2012 :banana:

Uhh, I will, but what's that got to do with 1wtc?

i wish that they could give it more of an empire state building style spire so that it apears mutch taller

Wow wow, very nice progress! Shape can be clearly distinguished now.

too quickly progress

One question: now they would get two more cranes?

nice progress!!!!!
congratulations!!!!!!

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for more pics, see previous page.

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That first one just makes me wish we had an earthcam for 1WTC :(

oh!New York is the most populous city in the United States.I like it!

1WTC is just about as tall as the tallest in my city (hideous blue and gray box):

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_RBw-psMN_Ew/SIka44i4pkI/AAAAAAAABNM/XcTvf3qU_4A/s400/flint.jpg

Driving east on I-69, I have one hell of a time picturing the base of 1WTC in place of that building. That really drove the scale of this project home for me.

^^ lol, that is one hideous building and what a pity - it's the tallest one too... btw what is happening with your city, wiki says its population is declining since the early 70s...

Are they starting to prepare the 2 wtc and 3 wtc site for construction?

^^ lol, that is one hideous building and what a pity - it's the tallest one too... btw what is happening with your city, wiki says its population is declining since the early 70s...

Flint is like a smaller counterpart to Detroit, and suffers from many of the same problems. Detroit is way worse though.

1WTC is just about as tall as the tallest in my city (hideous blue and gray box):

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_RBw-psMN_Ew/SIka44i4pkI/AAAAAAAABNM/XcTvf3qU_4A/s400/flint.jpg

Driving east on I-69, I have one hell of a time picturing the base of 1WTC in place of that building. That really drove the scale of this project home for me.

:puke: burn it with fire...

^^ lol, that is one hideous building and what a pity - it's the tallest one too... btw what is happening with your city, wiki says its population is declining since the early 70s...

Flint used to be the home to a a handful of large manufacturing plants that were owned by GM. Sometime in the mid 70s several of them got shut down, and tens of thousands of people went out of work.

1WTC is just about as tall as the tallest in my city (hideous blue and gray box):

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_RBw-psMN_Ew/SIka44i4pkI/AAAAAAAABNM/XcTvf3qU_4A/s400/flint.jpg



I am from Flint and I have always hated that building. The building has been condemned since 2004 and will be finally be demolished in 2011.

Can you point me to the news article/official statement that says that?

and will be finally be demolished in 2011.

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:carrot::carrot::carrot::carrot::carrot::carrot:
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:cucumber::cucumber::cucumber::cucumber::cucumber::cucumber:

It is so ugly- are they gonna build something nicer instead of it right away or just leave it for a future project?

Why the hell are you guys talking about michigan in a WTC thread about a building in NYC. can you please stop thanks

Sorry, I was just trying to put this tower's size into the perspective of middle-America.

Why the hell are you guys talking about michigan in a WTC thread about a building in NYC. can you please stop thanks

Wow, you can't much more self-absorbed than that. :puke:

Self absorbed really. I didn't say hey guys stop talking about michigan and talk about me. they spent most of the page talking about some shitty ass building that has nothing to do with this.

Are they starting to prepare the 2 wtc and 3 wtc site for construction?

They will. No one can say for sure when, but I imagine it would be some time this year.

since were in agreement about the 1wtc, how many of u will vote obama in 2012 :banana:

I will.

That first one just makes me wish we had an earthcam for 1WTC :(

Me too, I wonder why they took it down anyway? :ohno:

When It complete, it will look nice and show the new power of New York of America.
It may become a new symbol of New York.

I was in NYC this past weekend and I stayed at the Hilton. I watched the construction Friday and Saturday:
-They were busy Friday on WTC1, they stopped at 4pm (approx) Friday afternoon and nothing happened the rest of the weekend. I was suprised that anything happened due to it being the good Friday and Easter weekend holiday.
-The jackhammering machines were going NON-STOP on the transportation hub. Even up until LATE at night. I was in the 51st floor and it was still loud! They also seem to be cutting large square rocks and bringing them up from 'UNDER' the street!?! If you look on the HD cam, you can see a straight line of them at the left side of the bedrock.
-I saw a group of kids cross the bottom of the previous tower 1. I was like WTF? EVERYONE has construction vests (bright green/orange) and a hard hat. These kids had backpacks and baseball hats. I have a really good zoom on my camcorder and could easily see they didn't belong. No adult with them, and one left behind who had to run across to catch the other group who all exited through the small doorway on the west side. Strange lapse of security or just a normal event?

thats crazy about those kids..maybe they are slick and found a little shortcut..
the building from Flint is relevant because that's the size of the current progress, he was just puttin it to scale for the rest of us. Dont worry mayn

Flint is like a smaller counterpart to Detroit, and suffers from many of the same problems. Detroit is way worse though.

Flint used to be the home to a a handful of large manufacturing plants that were owned by GM. Sometime in the mid 70s several of them got shut down, and tens of thousands of people went out of work.

thanks for explaining, it wasn't my intention to keep this thread OT.

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I was in NYC this past weekend and I stayed at the Hilton. I watched the construction Friday and Saturday:
-They were busy Friday on WTC1, they stopped at 4pm (approx) Friday afternoon and nothing happened the rest of the weekend. I was suprised that anything happened due to it being the good Friday and Easter weekend holiday.
-The jackhammering machines were going NON-STOP on the transportation hub. Even up until LATE at night. I was in the 51st floor and it was still loud! They also seem to be cutting large square rocks and bringing them up from 'UNDER' the street!?! If you look on the HD cam, you can see a straight line of them at the left side of the bedrock.
-I saw a group of kids cross the bottom of the previous tower 1. I was like WTF? EVERYONE has construction vests (bright green/orange) and a hard hat. These kids had backpacks and baseball hats. I have a really good zoom on my camcorder and could easily see they didn't belong. No adult with them, and one left behind who had to run across to catch the other group who all exited through the small doorway on the west side. Strange lapse of security or just a normal event?

What HD cam are you referring to?

PA 4th QTR Report now available

http://www.panynj.gov/wtcprogress/quarterly-reports.html

Current situaton...04/05/2010
Blue line - Looking ahead - 2ndQ 2010

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What HD cam are you referring to?

Earthcam. Zoom in on the very bottom where the digging has been going on for the transportation hub.

http://www.earthcam.com/clients/groundzero/groundZero.swf

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B002RJQT84?tag=anarchojose08-20&camp=14573&creative=327641&linkCode=as1&creativeASIN=B002RJQT84&adid=1FQSFGYYWFNTN7EPCPMA&Click on the name below the pic for bigger pic...Very detailed...4800 x 4800..

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wonderful

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Path Station ramp to Greenwich street has been removed which was located a short distance north of the south pool. Always good progress. :)

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