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Path Station ramp to Greenwich street has been removed which was located a short distance north of the south pool. Always good progress. :)

By Morrongiello, 4-5-10.

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This one is kinda ominous...

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I didn't know planes were able to fly that close to Manhattan.

very nice up date...

This one is kinda ominous...

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I didn't know planes were able to fly that close to Manhattan.

there u go...so much security bullsh** and look at that plane right above the tower...still close enough to manhattan

Is it just me, or has the project looked the same for a while now? If they plan to reach floor 32 by the end of the quarter, they may need to speed up. I don't know much about architecture, so maybe I dont know what im talking about

If they finish floor 24 by the 15th, and continue to average two floors every two weeks they'll be fine.

23rd/24th floor finished by Apr 15*. * That's generous since it's already about half finished. But counting from the 15th and 30th is just easier.
25th/26th floor - Apr 30.
27th/28th floor - May 15.
29th/30th floor - May 30.
31st/32nd floor - June 15. Keep in my they'll erect the steel up to the height of the new floors once they complete the steel and floor decking of the previous floors. So by June 1 they should be up to 32 stories in height, around 346 feet high, plus 4 feet for the splice, and it should be an even 350 feet tall.

Is it just me, or has the project looked the same for a while now? If they plan to reach floor 32 by the end of the quarter, they may need to speed up. I don't know much about architecture, so maybe I dont know what im talking about

Well, they didn't work at all this weekend (it was Easter weekend), but during last week there was a lot of progress made. Also, just today they added several columns on the north side and did a lot of the decking on the 21st floor.

If they finish floor 24 by the 15th, and continue to average two floors every two weeks they'll be fine.

23rd/24th floor finished by Apr 15*. * That's generous since it's already about half finished. But counting from the 15th and 30th is just easier.
25th/26th floor - Apr 30.
27th/28th floor - May 15.
29th/30th floor - May 30.
31st/32nd floor - June 15. Keep in my they'll erect the steel up to the height of the new floors once they complete the steel and floor decking of the previous floors. So by June 1 they should be up to 32 stories in height, around 346 feet high, plus 4 feet for the splice, and it should be an even 350 feet tall.

Well, they didn't work at all this weekend (it was Easter weekend), but during last week there was a lot of progress made. Also, just today they added several columns on the north side and did a lot of the decking on the 21st floor.

Okay thank you for clarifying that, makes sense now

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You can really tell in this pic how 3WFC, Goldman Sachs, and 7WTC are all basically the same exact height (3WFC is 739 feet, Goldman Sachs is 740 feet, and 7WTC is 741 feet).

Fantastic updates, thanks. :)

In this picture, 7WTC looks 1 dimensional - brilliant!

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Looks like they will start pouring a floor (or something) in transportation hub for a first time :)

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Splendid

One thing I noticed this weekend was how floor count does not even come close to total height. Look at the Hilton in that photo above. It is 55 stories. WTC7 is 52!

One thing I noticed this weekend was how floor count does not even come close to total height. Look at the Hilton in that photo above. It is 55 stories. WTC7 is 52!

Yup. Just like every skyscraper known to man.

Nice view, nice to see it growing up faster.

there u go...so much security bullsh** and look at that plane right above the tower...still close enough to manhattan

Isn't that obvious with 3 major airports surrounding the city?
Just sayin' :)

It may look like it is 'right above' the site, in fact it is outside the bubble of protected air space. All the planes follow a specific path into the airports and in recent memory, only Air Force One broke that rule. To get to LaGuardia you sometimes fly up the Hudson then bank right.

they don't have to fly over Lower Manhattan to get to LaGuardia most flight cut through brooklyn unless there coming cross lets say from jersey and are to lazy to stop in nework lol

westmc9th http://mm-photography.smugmug.com/Other/HELICOPTER-RIDE-OVER-NYC/DSC1379/827317558_kJP7C-X2.jpg When i looked at this pic a few hours ago i thought: this could be such a beautiful picture - but unfortunaly there is still this big ugly hole (in the NE of the WTC site).

Looks like somebody heard me? :)

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Hi guys!
I have a question ( i suppose that it has been answered hundred of times), but in order not to read the whole topic....here i go:

Having a look in the news when stg new it´s said about NY, i thought in the "Zero zone" ( the way it´s called here in Spain), there was gonna be something like a glass palace designed by calatrava. Instead of that, i see what it seems to be the structure of two towers...

So, the project mix both ideas? Or calatrava building is out?
Regards from Spain and sorry again if the answer is fully covered before.

Thx!

^ the Calatrava designed transit hall is going exactly where they are pouring the cement in the picture above.

The Current 4 WTC is two "lots" to the south. 3 WTC is planned to the immediate south and 2 WTC is proposed to the immediate North.

Got it! Thanks a lot! I´ll have a look from time to time here.
And lucky u guys, who live in NY. For some people, as me, it´s a dream.

Regards :)

Calatrava designed the transportation hub (which is mostly below ground) and the above-ground glass oculus. The oculus only takes up a very small portion of the overall site, as you can see in this model...

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Awesome.The hall looks quite small in the whole area, and i thought almost everything would be for that.
Nice place, i´ll visit it, i promise :)

Awesome.The hall looks quite small in the whole area, and i thought almost everything would be for that.
Nice place, i´ll visit it, i promise :)

Definitely visited it when it's completed, although unfortunately it won't be completed until AT LEAST the beginning of 2014. However, they're already behind schedule so most likely it won't be completed until 2015. (I'm just talking about the transportation hub... the memorial and some of the towers will be completed sooner.)

Fantastic updates, thanks. :)

In this picture, 7WTC looks 1 dimensional - brilliant!

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It's a beautiful building to look at. The view from inside is even better!

Looks like somebody heard me?

They did. Don't know if you've been following the saga, but Silverstein and the PA came to a general agreement on financial arrangements for the East Bathtub. I believe they have 120 days to hammer out the details. That will get some real construction going.

I was in NYC this past weekend and I stayed at the Hilton. I watched the construction Friday and Saturday:
-They were busy Friday on WTC1, they stopped at 4pm (approx) Friday afternoon and nothing happened the rest of the weekend. I was suprised that anything happened due to it being the good Friday and Easter weekend holiday.
-The jackhammering machines were going NON-STOP on the transportation hub. Even up until LATE at night. I was in the 51st floor and it was still loud! They also seem to be cutting large square rocks and bringing them up from 'UNDER' the street!?! If you look on the HD cam, you can see a straight line of them at the left side of the bedrock.
-I saw a group of kids cross the bottom of the previous tower 1. I was like WTF? EVERYONE has construction vests (bright green/orange) and a hard hat. These kids had backpacks and baseball hats. I have a really good zoom on my camcorder and could easily see they didn't belong. No adult with them, and one left behind who had to run across to catch the other group who all exited through the small doorway on the west side. Strange lapse of security or just a normal event?

They do tours of the site for schools, I know, but it's a little disturbing that you didn't see any adult!

very nice panorama of NY

I only took one photo for some odd reason when i visited the site today.

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I was in NYC this past weekend and I stayed at the Hilton. I watched the construction Friday and Saturday:
-They were busy Friday on WTC1, they stopped at 4pm (approx) Friday afternoon and nothing happened the rest of the weekend. I was suprised that anything happened due to it being the good Friday and Easter weekend holiday.
-The jackhammering machines were going NON-STOP on the transportation hub. Even up until LATE at night. I was in the 51st floor and it was still loud! They also seem to be cutting large square rocks and bringing them up from 'UNDER' the street!?! If you look on the HD cam, you can see a straight line of them at the left side of the bedrock.
-I saw a group of kids cross the bottom of the previous tower 1. I was like WTF? EVERYONE has construction vests (bright green/orange) and a hard hat. These kids had backpacks and baseball hats. I have a really good zoom on my camcorder and could easily see they didn't belong. No adult with them, and one left behind who had to run across to catch the other group who all exited through the small doorway on the west side. Strange lapse of security or just a normal event?

Wait they were in the site itself? Thats a breach of security , and i doubt they do tours inside the site. On the outside yes , but not the inside due to all the machines and dangers. Did you get them on film? if so send it to the NYPD, someone needs to get in trouble for this.:ohno:

Wait they were in the site itself? Thats a breach of security , and i doubt they do tours inside the site. On the outside yes , but not the inside due to all the machines and dangers. Did you get them on film? if so send it to the NYPD, someone needs to get in trouble for this.:ohno:

It's not that big of a deal. I got a day pass onto the site back in September and I'm a nobody as well (meaning, I'm not a construction worker, just an average joe). No one is allowed on without a hardhat and vest (borrowed). If there was an entire classroom of kids wearing hardhats on the site, then I'm sure they had permission to be on the site. In order to get onto the site, there are guys standing at the entrances (the only ones I ever went through were the main gate by 1WTC and one at the back of the temporary PATH entrance) who have to scan your pass before you're allowed onto the site. You can't just walk onto the site until someone notices you.

I only took one photo for some odd reason when i visited the site today.

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A good shot of the rarely photographed north side. Thanks dude !

Deeply studying it for signs of pedestals for a climbing crane.

Nope, don't see any.

That third crane is still a mystery.

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It's not that big of a deal. I got a day pass onto the site back in September and I'm a nobody as well (meaning, I'm not a construction worker, just an average joe). No one is allowed on without a hardhat and vest (borrowed).

I think it was a big deal. They were not wearing vests or hardhats, jeans and hoodies with backpacks. No adult was with them.

I'll look through my pictures and videos to see if I took a shot or two, but I don't think so. Anyway, sending the info to the NYPD won't do anything four days later! I assumed they may have snuck(?) into the site, but I can't believe they could get out unnoticed unless they walked through the subway system?

Maybe one of them had a parent who worked there and got them in like the air-traffic controller with his kids in the control tower.

The lower portion of the North Pool is getting covered with the granite, and it looks pretty awesome compared to the concrete!

Hi. The 1 WTC totally pwnz.

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Off topic

lots being poured for hub station today

Where did the blue stairwell go? inside?

Off topic

lots being poured for hub station today

Where did the blue stairwell go? inside?

you mean the PATH Station?

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lots being poured for hub station today

Where did the blue stairwell go? inside?

There are not stairwells it's a saftey netting surrounding the upper floors, like the Beekman Tower.

The pour is a crane pad for the 18000.

What is the status of the core? For me it looks like 20th floor, but it's hard see due to the shadows.

However floors 21 - 24 still look like a ring of steel. I don't understand why they build it from the outside to the inside, because the base was build exactly the other way around. But I study art, not architecture. maybe someone can explain it so even i understand it :dunno:


PS: Thank you HK 999 for the great picture. It looks like you've been on the plane posted a few days ago :D

Im pretty unsatisfied this is my week off heared it was going to be great weather, i was getting excited for all kinds of steel to go up...but none but some blue things! These blue things are taking forever to put up, will they go on every single floor, if so wont this delay the construction

Im pretty unsatisfied this is my week off heared it was going to be great weather, i was getting excited for all kinds of steel to go up...but none but some blue things! These blue things are taking forever to put up, will they go on every single floor, if so wont this delay the construction

I don't think the safety net will cause a delay. Besides that, safety comes first! There will be enough names on the walls of the memorial!

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1776= Total, Utter, Pwnage of the Britishians.

Viperfreak2 said:

-I saw a group of kids cross the bottom of the previous tower 1. I was like WTF? EVERYONE has construction vests (bright green/orange) and a hard hat. These kids had backpacks and baseball hats. I have a really good zoom on my camcorder and could easily see they didn't belong. No adult with them, and one left behind who had to run across to catch the other group who all exited through the small doorway on the west side. Strange lapse of security or just a normal event?

When you say "cross the bottom of the previous T1", you are saying they crossed down in the north pool on the memorial site, correct?

And this was on Saturday?

1776= Total, Utter, Pwnage of the Britishians.

Mostly from the French and the Spanish, though we did our part.

I'm definitely looking forward to seeing more floors rising, it should be quite soon, no?

The Star Spangled Banner Lyrics
By Francis Scott Key 1814

Oh, say can you see by the dawn's early light
What so proudly we hailed at the twilight's last gleaming?
Whose broad stripes and bright stars thru the perilous fight,
O'er the ramparts we watched were so gallantly streaming?
And the rocket's red glare, the bombs bursting in air,
Gave proof through the night that our flag was still there.
Oh, say does that star-spangled banner yet wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave?

On the shore, dimly seen through the mists of the deep,
Where the foe's haughty host in dread silence reposes,
What is that which the breeze, o'er the towering steep,
As it fitfully blows, half conceals, half discloses?
Now it catches the gleam of the morning's first beam,
In full glory reflected now shines in the stream:
'Tis the star-spangled banner! Oh long may it wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!

And where is that band who so vauntingly swore
That the havoc of war and the battle's confusion,
A home and a country should leave us no more!
Their blood has washed out their foul footsteps' pollution.
No refuge could save the hireling and slave
From the terror of flight, or the gloom of the grave:
And the star-spangled banner in triumph doth wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!

Oh! thus be it ever, when freemen shall stand
Between their loved home and the war's desolation!
Blest with victory and peace, may the heav'n rescued land
Praise the Power that hath made and preserved us a nation.
Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just,
And this be our motto: "In God is our trust."
And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!

When you say "cross the bottom of the previous T1", you are saying they crossed down in the north pool on the memorial site, correct?

And this was on Saturday?

Yes. Down in the bottom of the north pool! They walked from the south-east corner to the 'doorway' in the center of the west side.

wtc.com has some new interesting images up! the white crane is down again. Is it getting more length less length or going away/

When will we see the first cladding?

http://social.bioware.com/brc/933397

wtc.com has some new interesting images up! the white crane is down again. Is it getting more length less length or going away/

It must have been a minor thing, it's back up.

When will we see the first cladding?

Late 3rd quarter or early 4th quarter 2010. The base curtain wall and the office floor curtain wall are two different contracts.

The base curtain wall can't go up untell the protection walls are in.

The lower portion of the North Pool is getting covered with the granite, and it looks pretty awesome compared to the concrete!

Are you sure you see granite, are you really sure. The reason I ask is because they have just started waterproofing the north pool.

^^ Thank god. I was hoping it was just waterproofing and not the final granite. Too dark of a color (basically black) for the memorial voids.

BTW, Zen or NYatKnight or anyone else, do you know what color granite they are using for the pools? Different renderings show it as everything from light blue, to blue, to almost purple.

Eventually all four towers will be built. Here's a nice video of the site:

http://www.wtc.com/media/videos/Completing%20the%20Vision%20Animation

[QUOTE=kittensandpuppies;54765209]The Star Spangled Banner Lyrics
By Francis Scott Key 1814

Oh, say can you see by the dawn's...


I bet most people didn't know there is more than one verse.
It sure would take too long to sing it all at a sports event.

Nice to see this building is rising fast. Of all the buildings
under construction right now, this one is the one most are waiting for!

[QUOTE=kittensandpuppies;54765209]The Star Spangled Banner Lyrics
By Francis Scott Key 1814

Oh, say can you see by the dawn's...


I bet most people didn't know there is more than one verse.
It sure would take too long to sing it all at a sports event.

Nice to see this building is rising fast. Of all the buildings
under construction right now, this one is the one most are waiting for!

I did! Did you also know that Francis Scott Key's famous great-nephew was named after him? You would likely recognize his name as F. Scott Fitzgerald.

OK, that was OT.

So, I found that the WTC site has a Q&A page that has some basic info on One WTC, if anyone is interested.

http://www.panynj.gov/wtcprogress/q_a_intro.cfm

Eventually all four towers will be built. Here's a nice video of the site:

http://www.wtc.com/media/videos/Completing%20the%20Vision%20Animation

Love that video! It looks so real! Can't wait to see all towers to get built!

This building will never be completed. Ever since 2001 the United States has been a vassal state of OPEC and the Islamic Coalition. They will not allow it.
New York still does have a special distinction though. There are 12 rats in New York City for every person living there, and OPEC and the Muslims can't take that away from you!

Ah yes, the deadly Islamic Coalition. How could we forget.

[FONT="Tahoma"][SIZE="4"][B]This building..bladiiebla get a life

Reported, banned in 3...2...1....

hi everyone, i have a question, first of all i don´t follow this thread, ¿the constructors have referred the construction of a second tower? like twin? or the complex is just one big tower...
Thanks

hi everyone, i have a question, first of all i don´t follow this thread, ¿the constructors have referred the construction of a second tower? like twin? or the complex is just one big tower...
ThanksIts 4 towers 1 World trade center, 2WTC, 3Wtc, and 4 WTC. they all have separate designs.

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/1036/worldtradecenter1.jpg (http://img25.imageshack.us/i/worldtradecenter1.jpg/)

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Ah yes, the deadly Islamic Coalition. How could we forget.

I am sure 3000 of your countrymen will not forget...

Reported, banned in 3...2...1....

And that is why your country is a third world backwater now just like Russia...

And that is why your country is a third world backwater now just like Russia...Could you please leave this skyscraper forum and go join a conspiracy forum? i am sure there are plenty

Has anyone done a render of the new buildings from the east river? I just used a model on google earth to get a rough idea of how it would look, and i thought it was terrible. 3 wtc akwardly obscures 1 wtc, 4 wtc is very simple from this angle, and 2 wtc looks out of place.

dont get me wrong, i love the new plan, but I wish it looked better from this angle. Especially since this is the most photographed angle of downtown manhattan, and the side with the brooklyn and manhattan bridge.

And that is why your country is a third world backwater now just like Russia...

Pot. Kettle. Black, anyone?

Has anyone done a render of the new buildings from the east river? I just used a model on google earth to get a rough idea of how it would look, and i thought it was terrible. 3 wtc akwardly obscures 1 wtc, 4 wtc is very simple from this angle, and 2 wtc looks out of place.

dont get me wrong, i love the new plan, but I wish it looked better from this angle. Especially since this is the most photographed angle of downtown manhattan, and the side with the brooklyn and manhattan bridge.

I'd be very surprised if that side remained the most photographed after everything is finished.

And that is why your country is a third world backwater now just like Russia...

Get lost!

And that is why your country is a third world backwater now just like Russia...

They have internet in PNG?

The biggest red crane came down last night hard 2 tell from the rebuild gz cam but looks like they are already taking her apart!

The biggest red crane came down last night hard 2 tell from the rebuild gz cam but looks like they are already taking her apart!

18000 on the west side? :)

edit:

yes..it's the one...:)

http://rebuildgroundzero.org/webcam/rgz_000.jpg?refresh=60&altText=Groud+Zero+Webcam+-+Rebuild+Ground+Zero+.org&camImgY=768&camImgX=960&imageurl=http://rebuildgroundzero.org/webcam/rgz_000.jpg

just when we need HD cam to work, it's not :lol:

Looks like there's crane down on the Transportation hub site...

the road deck that was used for the 16000 crane is almost disassembled.

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This building will never be completed. Ever since 2001 the United States has been a vassal state of OPEC and the Islamic Coalition. They will not allow it.
New York still does have a special distinction though. There are 12 rats in New York City for every person living there, and OPEC and the Muslims can't take that away from you!

Yeah he's right and we have 100 billionaires over 1000 millionaire and a rat trap for ever rat. And did you know the rat trappers a billionaires too who would of thought lol. And it will be finished before you get to see it, mr na sayer.

This tower will be completed as scheduled and progress rythm shows nothing will stop it until the end. Good photos !

i love new york
one of the greatest cities in the world
:)

2 quetions..:)

Is this 18000 supposed to go to the Trans. Hub site?
And is there any thread for Trans. Hub or we'll watchin' this here?

:cheers:

April 9th, 2010

(Sorry some are blurry. No tripod. :rolleyes: )

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Awesome pics! And yeah, the fact that they don't allow tripods at the WTC is kinda silly.

I don't know if this has been explained, but what is the purpose of the blue netting (or whatever it is) on the north side?

April 10, 2010

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Wow, a lot of progress going on in New York! :)

And that is why your country is a third world backwater now just like Russia...

Whatever dude. Is there a mental institution that let's their patients on the internet?

I love NYC too!!
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Is it a contractual thing that the concrete core has stalled at that level? i.e one contractor is doing the base and another is doing the body? Or are they doing it in stages?

Is it a contractual thing that the concrete core has stalled at that level? i.e one contractor is doing the base and another is doing the body? Or are they doing it in stages?

Yeah, I think so. They are trying to keep the core a certain level behind the steel so that the concrete and steel guys can work at the same time and not interfere with one another.

Now the RGZ cam isn't updating either <sigh>. Well, we got a good run out of the HD EarthCam. I believe it had worked continuously since before the last snow storm, including through several heavy rain/wind events.

I wonder how many man-hours will go into relocating the 18000 that short distance? This cam shows parts of it waiting to be lowered into the bathtub:

http://tinyurl.com/6zn855

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stop spamming"



That's funny coming from someone doing the same thing. How many different usernames have you had in the last month?

Awesome pics! And yeah, the fact that they don't allow tripods at the WTC is kinda silly.

I don't know if this has been explained, but what is the purpose of the blue netting (or whatever it is) on the north side?

Those are work platforms, the blue netting is fall protection. There is alot of work to be done at the edge of the floor slabs and they just make all that work alot safer to do.


Great pics everyone !

The World center hotel next to the deutsche bank building is goign to offer some amazing views!

http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/2705/terraceclubimg.jpg

http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/4286/diningimg.jpg

Now the RGZ cam isn't updating either <sigh>. Well, we got a good run out of the HD EarthCam. I believe it had worked continuously since before the last snow storm, including through several heavy rain/wind events.

I wonder how many man-hours will go into relocating the 18000 that short distance? This cam shows parts of it waiting to be lowered into the bathtub:

http://tinyurl.com/6zn855



To bring it to the site and set it up costs about $125,000 in labor and equipment, so I'm guessing at least that much if not more to relocate it. Rough guess would be about 240 man-hours, if it were straight time, but they are working nights and weekends. The cost is split between two contracts so it's not so bad.

Wow, nice find westmc9th !

Is it a contractual thing that the concrete core has stalled at that level? i.e one contractor is doing the base and another is doing the body? Or are they doing it in stages?

The core resumed it's climb about 8 weeks ago, it's just very hard to see. After looking closely at some of the pics posted on page 692 the core has reached at least to the 3rd floor.

As meh_cd said, the steel had to get high enough.

The World center hotel next to the deutsche bank building is goign to offer some amazing views!

I refuse to acknowledge this hotel as the World Center Hotel. If they think people are going to be gullible enough to think it's a part of the World Trade Center just because of its proximity and just because they gave it a name which is similar but not legally the same as World Trade Center, they should be ashamed of themselves. It's like when a tiny little studio makes some low budget movie and tries to make people think it's a sequel to a hugely popular movie by giving it a nearly identical name, though they don't explicitly call it a sequel to avoid a lawsuit. It's a cheap and dirty trick. They're even calling their restaurant/outdoor deck "View of the World", an obvious rip off of "Windows on the World" and "Top of the World". (And sadly, there probably will be a lot of people who think that it was built by the same people and is part of the rest of the complex.)

They are just shamelessly trying to make their tiny little hotel seem more prestigious than it is by immitating a name made famous by a tragedy. Screw that building.

there should be a restaurant on one of the top floors of 1 wtc like the old one..or is there?

there should be a restaurant on one of the top floors of 1 wtc like the old one..or is there?

There will be, according to www.wtc.com :)

A couple pics by GreenwichBoy, WNY, 4-11-10. 18000 crane ready for its move.

http://wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=9159&d=1271017835

http://wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=9162&d=1271017899

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There will be, according to www.wtc.com :)

nice one, i'll deffinately have a guinness up there some day!

id say now that the main core, basement and first few floors are up it should go up fairly quickly :smug:

silverstein pretty much has his own hotel in the works. Its funny in the render, the reflection off tower 7 shows a crane and nothing where that hotel should be.

nice up date picture

AMAZING

There still isnt any new renderings of the new WTC complex from Brooklyn Bridge View, so i decided to make a quick on on MS paint. Ive used one of HK999 awesome photos to create this 5minute render.

http://i39.tinypic.com/2yo4bjs.jpg

Would be awesome to get a real computer generated view from this angle, that would be great.

Almost time for the next crane jump?

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Does anybody know why work on the current floor level seems to be going more slowly? Do the workers have to prep it differently than the one below it? I know that there was a built-in delay with the concrete core, but I can't figure out the lag in the steelwork going up.

^^^^

Possibly taking out the big red crane and installing a third tower crane? Just a guess.

^^^^

Possibly taking out the big red crane and installing a third tower crane? Just a guess.

And putting up that ugly blue stuff.....:puke:

^^ There won't be a third tower crane.

"Once the four corner nodes are installed on the building, the two red crawler cranes that you refer to will be removed from the One World Trade Center site. Both will be relocated and used to construct the World Trade Center Transportation Hub. The two existing tower cranes will be used to build the rest of the building." http://www.panynj.gov/wtcprogress/q_a_intro.cfm

^^ There won't be a third tower crane.

"Once the four corner nodes are installed on the building, the two red crawler cranes that you refer to will be removed from the One World Trade Center site. Both will be relocated and used to construct the World Trade Center Transportation Hub. The two existing tower cranes will be used to build the rest of the building." http://www.panynj.gov/wtcprogress/q_a_intro.cfm

On the same page there's also:

A. The building and the mast on top of it will top out at 1,776 feet sometime in late 2012/early 2013. Construction from this point forward will be done with the existing two tower cranes and a sliding crane on the northwest corner of the building. An indoor observation deck will be located in the top floors


Maybe not a tower crane, but something's going to be added.

And putting up that ugly blue stuff.....:puke:

I hate that blue netting too. It's going to hide the work being done. Then again it's not my life hundreds of feet in the air.

By Morrongiello, 4-12-10.

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Oh cool, they took off that blue netting stuff. :banana:

EDIT: Wait no they didn't that was on the other side.

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true. that stuff sucks

Does anybody know why work on the current floor level seems to be going more slowly? Do the workers have to prep it differently than the one below it? I know that there was a built-in delay with the concrete core, but I can't figure out the lag in the steelwork going up.

They have to get the work platforms up before they go higher.

PS: the blue netting on the work platforms is like gauze, ya can see right through it.:) Look at the pic 3 posts up, you can see right through it, it's a safty net, not a security fence.

^^ There won't be a third tower crane.

"Once the four corner nodes are installed on the building, the two red crawler cranes that you refer to will be removed from the One World Trade Center site. Both will be relocated and used to construct the World Trade Center Transportation Hub. The two existing tower cranes will be used to build the rest of the building." http://www.panynj.gov/wtcprogress/q_a_intro.cfm

There will be a third crane. An external climber on the north side.

Glad to see the project moving along!

...the core is completely self-supporting, correct? Almost a building within a building.

Is this blue stuff the same as that yellow stuff during the construction of the old towers?

http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/6355/innoduringconstr1971l.jpg (http://img40.imageshack.us/i/innoduringconstr1971l.jpg/)

Downtown was so bizarre back then.

Is this blue stuff the same as that yellow stuff during the construction of the old towers?

http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/6355/innoduringconstr1971l.jpg (http://img40.imageshack.us/i/innoduringconstr1971l.jpg/)

The towers look so modern in that pic - like they are from another world.

Is this blue stuff the same as that yellow stuff during the construction of the old towers?


I would say those yellow things are sheets with which they cover outer side of the floor so they can put fireproof layer on the steel...


Netting and platforms would be those brighter red things up close to the top...

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Wow!..it's wonderful to see how it's taking shape!..

Why do you guys hate that blue thingie so much? :D :D :D

Great news! they fixed and repositioned the earthcams! :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:

The red steel on this tower reminds me of the golden gate bridge a little bit.

Great news! they fixed and repositioned the earthcams! :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:

I can only find 1 cam :O

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That is the single heaviest piece, it weighs about 52 tons.
The crawlers weigh 44 tons each, and the carbody (the lower part between the crawlers) 47 tons.

If you want all the specs, click here http://www.manitowoccranes.com/MCG_MC/Products/EN/model18000.asp and open the Product Brochure.

BTW they didn't drop it, the video is pieced together from separate segments.

Why do you guys hate that blue thingie so much? :D :D :D

They're calling the blue stuff a "cocoon".

The crane is up :cheers:

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/4333/crane.png (http://img143.imageshack.us/i/crane.png/)

Not quite, the base of the crawler is there but they still have to set up the boom

Not quite, the base of the crawler is there but they still have to set up the boom

The mast goes in before the boom and luffer

...the core is completely self-supporting, correct? Almost a building within a building.

Not exactly. The core takes more than half of the gravity load but the perimeter steel takes most of the wind load. They work together, especially in the event of an earthquake.

There probably is going to be enough steel in the core walls for it to stand on it's own, but I wouldn't want to test that.

Doesn't look like the pad for the 18000 is big enough for a Max-ER kit.:(

Doesn't look like the pad for the 18000 is big enough for a Max-ER kit.:(
They make two different Max-ER kits. One has wheels and the other hangs so it wouldn't require a larger pad.

They make two different Max-ER kits. One has wheels and the other hangs so it wouldn't require a larger pad.

Good point. New York Crane had a 16000 out in PA with hanging weights (not to get off topic) so maybe we will see the hanging

By GreenwichBoy, WNY, 4-14-10. The cranes have jumped and more safety netting put up.

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I don't get it it. Why are they just now putting up safety nets?

better putting up safety nets now then never putting....
safety first...

Notice how you cant look in but you can look out of the blue netting i wonder why

better putting up safety nets now then never putting....
safety first...

More like safey at the last minute from what I can but nobodies die yet.

This building is coming along very nicely, I cannot wait to go to New York when it's complete. The only thing I am not a big fan of is the spire.

Could anybody explain to me how they can raise the cranes to the top like that? What process is involved?

Thanks :)

It's gonna be the new smurf HQ with that blue netting. Keep it rising boys

This building is coming along very nicely, I cannot wait to go to New York when it's complete. The only thing I am not a big fan of is the spire.

Could anybody explain to me how they can raise the cranes to the top like that? What process is involved?

Thanks :)

Watch this video: http://dcmerectors.com/FEDERATED/proj4.html

^^Great vid uakoops. I never knew how they moved the cranes up either, that vid explains it very well.

nice

Notice how you cant look in but you can look out of the blue netting i wonder why

It's due to the angle and lighting. Also sort of like placing a thin sheet over your head -- you can see out somewhat, but no one can see your face.

Hopefuly now that they started the office floors things will go faster :)

It is so exciting seeeing this thing get taller! It is going to look great as America's new tallest building.

Up on the deck:

http://gothamist.com/attachments/jen/2009_12_wtcp1.jpg
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Great shots on Gothamist today:

http://gothamist.com/2010/04/15/world_trade_center_site_progress_vi.php

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B002RJQT84?tag=anarchojose08-20&camp=14573&creative=327641&linkCode=as1&creativeASIN=B002RJQT84&adid=1FQSFGYYWFNTN7EPCPMA&Great shots on Gothamist today:

http://gothamist.com/2010/04/15/world_trade_center_site_progress_vi.php

yeah, agreed

someone ban him please ^^

someone ban him please ^^

Who ? Why ?

Who ? Why ?
Hes been linking amazon pages in his posts

Reprises ??

Reprises ??Yes Reprises i don't want to go off topic to much but here is proof

http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/6144/beekman.png (http://img151.imageshack.us/i/beekman.png/)

someone ban him please ^^

Just report the posts to the moderators.

I don't know why he won't move on to another forum. He's used a half dozen usernames already.

You guys realize that people do get paid to advertise on internet forums right? The guy is probably making $15 an hour to spam this shit here.

Yes Reprises i don't want to go off topic to much but here is proof

http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/6144/beekman.png (http://img151.imageshack.us/i/beekman.png/)

His link is blocked, so you can be sure is out now ! This spammer is really a ..... I understand what you feel, I don't like these persons who pollute this forum.

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Those pictures are GREAT, but I'm a little disappointed to see the core so very far behind the steel. I'm sure it will catch up, but I guess slow and strong is better!

http://gothamist.com/2010/04/15/worl...rogress_vi.php

Does anyone know how many floors are expected to be completed by this year's end?

Those pictures are GREAT, but I'm a little disappointed to see the core so very far behind the steel. I'm sure it will catch up, but I guess slow and strong is better!

http://gothamist.com/2010/04/15/worl...rogress_vi.php

The core is supposed to lag behind the steel, and will remain behind for the duration of construction.

Does anyone know how many floors are expected to be completed by this year's end?

Steel installation should be to the 55th to 60th floors, according to

http://www.panynj.gov/wtcprogress/q_a_intro.cfm

The core is supposed to lag behind the steel, and will remain behind for the duration of construction.

I know, but don't you think it's WAY behind the steel? It's like the bipolar opposite version of the shard where the core shot up 20 floors, with the steel barely reaching two floors.

It's not really a complaint, but like I said a disappointment.

I know, but don't you think it's WAY behind the steel? It's like the bipolar opposite version of the shard where the core shot up 20 floors, with the steel barely reaching two floors.

It's not really a complaint, but like I said a disappointment.

Obviously the core forms are different from those that get quicly pulled up well past the framing.

The core is SUPPOSED to be that far behind. They're allowing it to lag so both the concrete guys and the steel guys can work at the same pace without disrupting each other. How is that disappointing?

Just report the posts to the moderators.

I don't know why he won't move on to another forum. He's used a half dozen usernames already.

Yea I banned that fcker at least 10 times now. He keeps on coming back. I've requested IP bans multiple times but it just doesn't work..

Just keep on reporting posts guys and I'll take care of it ASAP.

^^
Thanks, that guy is so annoying..

Picture by NYatKnight, WNY, 4-16-10.

http://wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=9230&d=1271428958

i am so happy that this one has now a normal pace, am looking forward to see WTC1 finally making an impact in the skyline. :-)

i what are they going to do with this cocoon?

are they going to add new blue medh to every floor or just jack it up with the workers?

cool to watch and there is plenty of action but it is taking how long to get it all up?

:banana::banana:It looks more tall now.:banana::banana:when it completes I will visit NYC.:cheers:

Wow ! Looks much taller and huge from that angle ! Good shot !

:banana::banana:It looks more tall now.:banana::banana:when it completes I will visit NYC.:cheers:

Me too. I'm waiting for that, not just this tower, but for the hole WTC project.

Nice, nice, looking forward to 2013.

Wow ! Looks much taller and huge from that angle ! Good shot !

...not only that, it's starting to look "denser" as work other than the frame continues.

Very nice place - why not? :)

Notice the core at the base. It's massive and contains many elevator tubes. How could anyone expect that to be slipformed ahead of the framing?

^^ It has happened before with other similar towers.

The only difference is that most towers don't have a steel frame encased in concrete as a core, here the floors have to connected to the steel frame in the core before they pour the concrete core. And apparently there's no structural need for the concrete core to grow at the same pace as the tower.

Ciao!:) One question... Will the new tower will be taller than the twin towers? When will be constructed other buildings in the new World Trade Center complex?

If the 1 WTC is higher with 1776 ft.

I know, but don't you think it's WAY behind the steel? It's like the bipolar opposite version of the shard where the core shot up 20 floors, with the steel barely reaching two floors.

It's not really a complaint, but like I said a disappointment.

I think I post this pic about once a month on one forum or another in responce to questions like yours.
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Tower One well be FAR stronger than the Shard or any other "Core First" building. The reasion is the floors well be tied into the core with what amounts to a dovetail joint. Added to that is the fact that the floor beams are bolted to the core steel that is in turn surounded by rebar and encased in 3 feet of high strength concrete.

On buildings like the Shard the floor beams are bolted, or welded, to a plate cast into the core.

Ciao!:) One question... Will the new tower will be taller than the twin towers? When will be constructed other buildings in the new World Trade Center complex?

In honor of both the north and south towers Tower One well be as tall as the North Tower and have a visible band near the top showing the hight of the South Tower.

The Spire well bring the total hight of Tower One to 1776 feet.

Tower Four has reached the 4th floor and Towers 2 and 3 should start rising some time this year.

Reguarless of what happens with Silverstein and the PA the entire WTC site well be built up to street level in the next 2 years.

Nice to see it going up!

^^ It has happened before with other similar towers.

The only difference is that most towers don't have a steel frame encased in concrete as a core, here the floors have to connected to the steel frame in the core before they pour the concrete core. And apparently there's no structural need for the concrete core to grow at the same pace as the tower.

Pretty much the whole time the core steel is a couple floors ahead. The concrete is lagging a lot but the floors keep catching up to the core.

In honor of both the north and south towers Tower One well be as tall as the North Tower and have a visible band near the top showing the hight of the South Tower.

Is there a picture with the band in it?

Is there a picture with the band in it?

refering to www.wtc.com:

"Sixty-nine office floors will rise above the base to an elevation of 1,120 feet. Two television broadcast floors, mechanical floors, two restaurants, and an observation deck will be built atop these, topped with a metal-and-glass parapet marking 1,362 feet and 1,368 feet - the respective heights of the original twin towers."

I marked the markings (:lol:) on this rendering. There might be better renderings, because here it looks more like a concrete parapet, but at least it gives you an idea of how it will look like.

http://s5.directupload.net/images/100419/qnbsaxok.jpg (http://www.directupload.net)

Nothing much happend lately, they finishing the 23rd floor right now, safety netting is up on the north, west and south side and cranes jumped..I guess we'll see new steel in the next few days since the weather is great...:)

http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/8567/freedomtower190410.jpg

^^ nice. here's a cool pic i just found on flickr...

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4015/4535124582_245d6f4738_o.jpg
jackie weisberg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jackiew/4535124582/)

This is the Full planned conversion of the PATH corridor and Journal SQ , alot of us beleave this and the planned developments in Newark will move forward.

http://blog.nj.com/hudsoncountynow_impact/2009/02/large_Journal-Square-Redevelopment-1.jpg


My apologies for quoting a couple month old post, but I can't help noticing the building at the back on the left looks almost identical to 122 Leadenhall Street currently on hold here in London:

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/49TheLeadenhallBuilding_pic1.jpg

What is it?

Look at all the glass!

Its probably an indicative render. I remember a few years back one of the London projects had something from Hong Kong representing a Croydon Development. They may have used 122 Leadenhall to represent the massing and style they want for that plot.

(You can actually see the reflection of St Helens (Londons best Mies Black Box IMHO) in it)

ill tonkso, fancy seeing you here!
Thanks for the reply, didn't realize they did that sort of thing - and now you mention it I can see St Helens in the reflection lol

I just noticed how huge these steel beams are compared to the workers

http://img682.imageshack.us/img682/2305/housegi.jpg (http://img682.imageshack.us/i/housegi.jpg/)

Corner Node lift video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4pA2LC_L2Y

Iron workers working the node in video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ytNavFHvG8

Looking good, can't wait for this one! :banana:

any renders of what the restaurant will look like up on the roof?

^^ nice. here's a cool pic i just found on flickr...

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4015/4535124582_245d6f4738_o.jpg
jackie weisberg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jackiew/4535124582/)


Outstanding!..thanks for sharing it!.

New tower seems a little too close to The Barclay - Vesey Building and to New 7... What you think?:|

It's not nearly as close as it looks, and certainly not as close as some other towers in Manhattan. There's an entire street back there you know.

My apologies for quoting a couple month old post, but I can't help noticing the building at the back on the left looks almost identical to 122 Leadenhall Street currently on hold here in London:

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/49TheLeadenhallBuilding_pic1.jpg

What is it?

I believe they might have the same Architects , that Project i think has a few Famous Architects ,and copy cat buildings. The whole project should be done in 2030. :) Depends on the economy , that's what some locals told me.

It's not nearly as close as it looks, and certainly not as close as some other towers in Manhattan. There's an entire street back there you know.
The new tower = one of the new symbols of New York, but a bit strange that such a structure pushing among less important buildings. Also understand that it is inappropriate to build on the foundations of the tragedy.

Nothing much happend lately, they finishing the 23rd floor right now, safety netting is up on the north, west and south side and cranes jumped..I guess we'll see new steel in the next few days since the weather is great...:)


Ummmmm, great info, but, you are one floor off. The blue line is the 33rd floor.:)

^^ nice. here's a cool pic i just found on flickr...

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4015/4535124582_245d6f4738_o.jpg
jackie weisberg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jackiew/4535124582/)

Thank you for this one. I walked around the site last weekend and from ground level there are no views that shows the site adequately. Please if you have access keep posting.

^^ Please don't include the picture in a reply on the same page.

By GreenwichBoy, WNY, 4-20-10.

http://wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=9302&d=1271808616

http://wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=9301&d=1271808609

http://wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=9300&d=1271808594

New tower seems a little too close to The Barclay - Vesey Building and to New 7... What you think?:|

I'm guessing they would have preferred a bit more space, but the memorial pools drove the design on the entire site, I would think.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B002RJQT84?tag=anarchojose08-20&camp=14573&creative=327641&linkCode=as1&creativeASIN=B002RJQT84&adid=1FQSFGYYWFNTN7EPCPMA&looks like crap so far
That's usually how construction sites look when there being built. troll

thanks for your diagram update dinovabac.
im pretty close
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2717/4501424684_f37e78fddc_o.jpg

Starting to get tall :)

Does anyone know when it's expected to top out ? (roof, not spire)

Does anyone know when it's expected to top out ? (roof, not spire)

2017? 2023? who knows , because i guarantee you there's going to be alot of stop and starts down the road...:ohno:

I believe they might have the same Architects , that Project i think has a few Famous Architects ,and copy cat buildings. The whole project should be done in 2030. :) Depends on the economy , that's what some locals told me.

It looks to me like they've used the same model found in Google Sketchup for this rendering.

http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/details?mid=1c9ddb2cfd2c913ef8b758b99bd30e5b&prevstart=0

2017? 2023? who knows , because i guarantee you there's going to be alot of stop and starts down the road...:ohno:

lol, you're in for a big surprise buddy. :)

2017? 2023? who knows , because i guarantee you there's going to be alot of stop and starts down the road...:ohno:

Well, I mean assuming everything more or less goes as planned :)
Any idea anyone ?

lol, you're in for a big surprise buddy. :)

Well i know local politics enough , they always seem to derail projects :ohno:

About cladding, do you know when the first pieces will arrive/set on 1WTC?

Well i know local politics enough , they always seem to derail projects :ohno:

There are no politics to worry about for 1WTC. It's paid for and will be built on time.

About cladding, do you know when the first pieces will arrive/set on 1WTC?

3rd quarter 2010, probably in the late summer/early fall

It seems like I've been checking the work on this tower for like, five years, and it's always stucked. Are they building one floor per quarter ?

At this pace this project will be finished in 2020.

It seems like I've been checking the work on this tower for like, five years, and it's always stucked. Are they building one floor per quarter ?

At this pace this project will be finished in 2020.

Construction only started about three years ago (I think it was April 23, 2007 when the first tower crane was set up, then the other one was set up about a week later). It took two years to get to street level. It's now on the 24th floor and should soon be progressing at about a floor a week.

At this pace this project will be finished in 2013.

There are no politics to worry about for 1WTC. It's paid for and will be built on time.

There are , why do you think it took so long to get to this point? 2 States have millions poured into this , via the Transit Hub since its the PATH. The PATH is funded by New Jersey & New York......and a few other political things tied it up...:ohno: Knowing NYC /Jersey Politics it will happen again, maybe not in-till the Project is almost done , but trust it will.

hope this is getting more accurate. why is first office floor lev20?

decking of the 24th has begun.

I wonder if they immediately start with the 25th or first finish the blue netting. Can't wait to see the split of the corners.

(had to edit the floors two times. i'm not good in counting :p)

hope this is getting more accurate. why is first office floor lev20?

Because there's a 6-story tall lobby and then several very tall mechanical floors before you get to the office floors. The first office floor is close to 200 feet above the street.

It's the same for WTC7, there's a three-story tall lobby and then 6 mechanical floors, so the first actual office floor is on the 10th floor.

^^ I guess it refers to the old wtc. By leaving out floors 7 to 19 it almost gets the same official number of floors as the old wtc (108 vs. 110). but it's just a guess.

btw the floors on the rendering are wrong.
"The building now officialy 108 Floors tall, instead of 82. The base will occupy floors 1 - 19, Floors 20 - 63 will be offices, floor 64 will be a skylobby, floors 65 - 88 will also be offices. Floors 89 - 99 will be Mechanical floors, floors 100 - 102 will be used for Observation and other public uses. Floors 103 - 108 will then be more Mechanical Floors." (skyscraperpage)

I believe they might have the same Architects , that Project i think has a few Famous Architects ,and copy cat buildings. The whole project should be done in 2030. :) Depends on the economy , that's what some locals told me.

Sounds interesting - over in the London forum it was pointed out that another one of the towers in that render is Bridgewater Place, which is in the City of Leeds, in West Yorkshire (England).

Excellent diagram !

Is there an observation deck on the ring at 420 meters high??? Is the 390m observatory the highest one in the tower???

Thx !

thanks owr
ive amended diagram
hope its close
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2732/4542109944_c9fe7501b7_o.jpg

There are , why do you think it took so long to get to this point? 2 States have millions poured into this , via the Transit Hub since its the PATH. The PATH is funded by New Jersey & New York......and a few other political things tied it up...:ohno: Knowing NYC /Jersey Politics it will happen again, maybe not in-till the Project is almost done , but trust it will.

You're very confused. There haven't been any political holdups on this particular tower in a long time. It's fully paid for and on-schedule.

^^ I think Nexis tried to describe, that without the past politic and government based disturbances, this tower could be finished by now. So i have understood him.

We all know that, but he's arguing that it could happen again. Which is extremely unlikely at this point. 1WTC is definitely in smooth-sailing mode.

for those who ask it will topout in 2013 not 17 or 20.

^^ I think Nexis tried to describe, that without the past politic and government based disturbances, this tower could be finished by now. So i have understood him.

Its a sad state of politics , look at the 2nd Avenue Subway project , held up for decades or the ARC Tunnel just began last year. Should have been done by now. The NYC metro has rampet corruption in Politics , that always holds up big projects. If its a dual state project it gets criticized & redesigned more. Like the WTC site , ARC Tunnel , New Bayonne Bridge.....:ohno: I wish it would stop , because its starting to really hurt me & alot of people who saw the twin towers fall...:cry: We just wanted this tower / memorial to be up by now, but politics reared its 2 heads :ohno: I'm sorry if some of you think i'm making this up or just being ignorant , but me & alot do see this stalling again. If it does happen by 2013 i'll be very happy , but i'm warning you there's a moderate to high chance of stalling again. So don't get your hopes up , they made at least several of these agreements over the past 10 years and they stalled a few months later. Once this project is done (hopefully 2013 or at the Worst 2017/20) this will show the rest of the world that American can rebuild after such a tragic event.

Looks like 86 is almost exactly level with 86 on the ESB. Not sure if that's coincidence.

We all know that, but he's arguing that it could happen again. Which is extremely unlikely at this point. 1WTC is definitely in smooth-sailing mode.

Technically it may be, but there may still be possibility of a decision to delay or slow it down.

There has already been talk of WTC4 being put on hold because the infrastruture around it won't be there to open it when it is complete. The same issue may affect 1WTC. AIUI the transport hub etc. are still way behind schedule.

Silverstein can't afford to pay for a building to be built that he can't then open. PA possibly can - but they may decide to slow it down and move resource to other delayed projects on the site.

If it does happen by 2013 i'll be very happy , but i'm warning you there's a moderate to high chance of stalling again.

I'm sorry, but you're just absolutely wrong on this one.

From wtcprogress.com (http://www.panynj.gov/wtcprogress/index.html):
http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/5055/wtcmemorialgranitesixpa.jpg

I don't know if it was posted before, but I just found this on tumblr...
http://s2.imgimg.de/uploads/NY0da1e3f2jpg.jpg

That's a GREAT picture gayscraper!

What does a Gay Scraper do? Oh, ew nevermind, I don't want to know!

Wow, granite! never knew they were that close to completion :banana:

Wow, granite! never knew they were that close to completion :banana:

They're not. They will open the memorial for the 10-year anniversary (Sept. 11 2011) and then close it so it doesn't get dirtied up during all the construction.

So, the memorial will be "done" but won't be open long. Until everything is done, of course.

They're not. They will open the memorial for the 10-year anniversary (Sept. 11 2011) and then close it so it doesn't get dirtied up during all the construction.

So, the memorial will be "done" but won't be open long. Until everything is done, of course.I meant the pools i didn't know they were so close to finishing the pools

Excellent aereal view ! That is a current update...