You obviously have no experience whatsoever of a construction environment, and the dynamics of it, with all its complications. Modification in the schedule can be affected by so many reasons, it's useless to even take a guess without more info. Having taken a good amount of building and construction classes to support my civil engineering major, I have fortunately been exposed to that environment and people with that kind of expertise (surely not myself). Your ignorance is laughable. Unless you know what you are talking about, in that case we can have a private conversation, since this is not the place for it, silence i your best instrument. Seriously.

p.s. the issues with the core's concrete earlier during the construction, delayed construction. Example of a delay caused by repairing a mistake, that would have been a serious security issue for the structure.

Other examples can be taken also by the old WTC Twins, that many here take as an example as "fast construction". The fire resistant coating of the main steel structure was given to a company (with mob implications) that to finish the job on time, and to save money, didn't do their job right. The consequences: the covering was blown away in the explosion when the 2 airplanes hit the buildings, and the columns lasted less time than what would have been expected under those heat conditions, and less people had less time to leave the buildings. "Faster" and "cheaper" cost the lives of hundreds of human beings. As an engineer, that is unacceptable.

So again, I ask you to know flap your gums to talk about nothing (unless you can prove otherwise, such as more information on the delay, that is not related to the construction process and its security), because with each page of this forum, you are digging yourself a hole in ignorance (on this as on the Carnegie thread).

I agree.

+1

Well said :). Where can I find last schedule?

There was a timetable on panynj.gov, but it's offline now. They also used to upload quaterly reports, but there is no first quarter 2010 report (yet).

It was not compared. It was just a sample of making building fast and that building sth fast doesn't mean that quality will be bad.



Well said :). Where can I find last schedule?


The PA had a schedule posted on its website. But it's been removed because many areas are behind schedule and won't hit the targets they set in late 2008.

http://www.panynj.gov/wtcprogress/milestones.html

And no one is attacking you because your Polish. Get over yourself.

Posts about delays, construction going slow, etc is "trolling", and grounds for being banned from this thread. You may simply be asking why it is such. But 99.99% of these posts are just punks trying to start a fight. Don't post such questions on this forum. You want answers, try www.google.com.

^^ You know, I have never asked in this thread about speed. I just know that its slow and thats fine with me. But one thing I cant stand are some stupid explonations. Thats all. Ones again sorry for offtopic :cheers:

Don't post such questions on this forum. You want answers, try www.google.com.

Lol, i'd like to say "don't teach father how to make kids". What is more you are starting a fight being such an agresive :). Chill out. Firstly I was amazed by slow progress and after that I've just asked a question. Maby next step will be no posting pictures here and just sayin: check google photos? :D

Cheers :cheers:

Yep, moderator, please clear last page :).

I already read a lot about this blue "cacoon", which seems to be kind of innovative. What about this brown thing? Is this just an ordinary tarpaulin or is it something special, too?

I hope this question doesn't sound too stupid. :S

By lofter1, WNY, dusk, 5-29-10.

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I already read a lot about this blue "cacoon", which seems to be kind of innovative. What about this brown thing? Is this just an ordinary tarpaulin or is it something special, too?

I hope this question doesn't sound too stupid. :SThe blue cacoon is like a cage thingy the black looks like just netting

Since you called me ignorant you are obligged to answer me. What reason that would be? Redesigning structure? What, some engineer in the midle of construction said "no, whait, guys, it won't work" ? please, the stage of desiging is past. What it is now is chain of actions they have to do. So, please since I am so ignorant tell me, you can pour conrete better? Or install beams better? No you don't, all you can do i is do it faster or slower. And if they predict they can do it faster, that means it is posible. But someone faild, and that is all about it, regardles of the reason. And if you will still insist, they have some unexpected, independent from them, obstalces then ask Zen, I'm sure he knows best.

Engineers make mistakes. Good engineers own up to them and admit that they made them before it is too late to fix them. There have been hundreds and hundreds of projects that have been delayed due to found engineering faults, and there have been hundreds of buildings/structures that have failed due to engineering faults. Finding a fuckup doesn't necessarily mean starting all over again in design. Some mistakes, take the fault that caused the collapse of the walkways in the Kansas City Hyatt as an example, can be fixed with some minor changes in design late in the construction phase. Another prime example would be the XL center, which faced a roof collapse due to miscalculated snow load capacities (roof was redesigned after the collapse, and the arena re-opened).

I'm certain that a project of this scale has a fault or two in the design. Maybe they found one, major or minor, and that could be what is causing a delay.

Anyway, tremendous progress in my eyes. Can't wait to see the cladding and the blast wall towards the end of the year.

^^ And thats perfectly normal. Someone made mistake, and they are trying to fix it ;) But its not like its normal procedure to make the tower better. At least you seems to understand :cheers:

As for me, eot

I hope that actually doesn't happen. fast doesn't mean better quality of construction, and with this tower, quality is the primary objective, not speed. This skyscraper is, as of today, the strongest skyscraper ever engineered with this kind of structure (that is, we do not take into consideration with this statement buildings built with a completely different structure like the ESB, for example). A reinforced concrete core with steel structure and frame , and glass cladding is the method taken into consideration (since it is the main engineering schema used today). And the OWTC is the best example of this. Ever. So, may they take all the time that is needed, as long as they build it correctly.

You may be right in principle, but more time does not mean automatically more quality.

Thank you fro the updates for this gorgeous tower. I just love it!

Are the structure above grade level being built the buildings in the rendering??

http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/3286/groundzero2010053120094.jpg

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Yes.

Wow,New York's project majestic !

Can people PLEASE STOP ARGUING about some meaningless bull**** ?!?!?
I really don't care if some guy is polish or not, I just wanna see some contruction updates!!!!

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I asked a Few PAPD officers when it was going to be completed and they said 2018-2025? Given how long its taken to get to this point and would say there right. .......sigh......This project shows how bad bureaucracy is hurting other country.

I took these pictures yesterday

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I am going to laugh so fucking hard when this building is completed on schedule, TTII never see the light of day, and the new WTC becomes a global icon.

Let's get real people, everyone knows the construction is going slow. The Freedom Tower is probably the slowest building project in the world but how many times can we mention it you know. The Freedom Tower is only a difficult building because of the concrete core. If it was just an all Steel building it wouldn't take long to erect steel considering Freedom Tower is only using 50,000 Tons of steel. As you can see nothing compared to the total amount used in the Twin Towers of about 200,000 - 250,000 Tons of steel. Obviously if we had more construction workers this project would move much faster but we don't. I'm just satisfied we're getting something there. Complaining about the speed is not going to get this project to move along faster.

I asked a Few PAPD officers when it was going to be completed and they said 2018-2025? Given how long its taken to get to this point and would say there right. .......sigh......This project shows how bad bureaucracy is hurting other country.
He might have meant the complex like tower 2 and 3

The whole site is going to be a construction zone for much of this decade.

<--- reads through the last two pages and runs away.

PS:nice pics !

Who cares how slow or not it is? Look at the size of the beast, its amazing!

Who cares how slow or not it is? Look at the size of the beast, its amazing!

I agree, I don't care how long they take to build it as long as they build it :)

Last few pages have been disgusting. Grow up and enjoy the ride, people.

this tower will be compelted 2013. the rest by 2020ish.
damn now mesh hides the steel levels.still lev26?
cheers

Are the structure above grade level being built the buildings in the rendering??

http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/3286/groundzero2010053120094.jpg

http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/3365/8acrememorialquadrantre.jpg

Will be nice to see the west side of the site as well as the highway all complete, with the road being straight not looking like some sorta snake. Soon as the west side of the site is complete, it is going to add some real sense of progression on the new wtc site.

^^ What two small buildings will be used for?

Museums probably ^^

^^ I thought big one just above two twin towers fountains is museum?

^^ maybe there cafe's or something?

this tower will be compelted 2013. the rest by 2020ish.
damn now mesh hides the steel levels.still lev26?
cheers

yep

What do you guys think, which height must this tower reach until its visible from the Brooklyn Bridge? Since now i think its unvisible, allthought its ~80m tall.

Not long came back from new York, walking around downtown you can see that this tower will be prominant from quite a few streets, forming great sight lines. It will look fantastic! here it is my contribution

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Nice pic Cardiff - unusual angle.

I looked at my pictures while standing on the Brooklyn Bridge and there appears to be a perfect gap for 1WTC to fit in! The only buildings in front are the appartment buildings near the shore line that are 25 stories tall. The Millenium Hilton is on the left and 7WTC is on the right. My guess is that you should be able to see 1WTC as it reaches the 30th floor.

I can see the WTC form parts of the New Jersey Gold Coast now , a few months ago that wasn't possible.

Nice pic, it can be easily seen from there...

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:banana::cheers:

Come on- that gap between 1WTC and 2WTC needs another tower instead of that memorial. A much more impressive memorial could have been built inside that tower. That memorial will never be an international icon like the old WTC towers.

Come on- that gap between 1WTC and 2WTC needs another tower instead of that memorial. A much more impressive memorial could have been built inside that tower. That memorial will never be an international icon like the old WTC towers.

I think it will be a visitormagnet although America`s importance will shrink. :cheers:

I think it will be a visitormagnet although America`s importance will shrink. :cheers:

Probably more Americans than tourists from foreign states though.

The memorial isn't supposed to be an icon, it's supposed to be a memorial. The site as a whole will be iconic.

Where are the mods?

I think the gap won't be as noticeable from other angles.

Nice pic Cardiff - unusual angle.


unusual ... and illogic

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzU-MTsaKsQ

^^ That video's about 3 years old. Still nice though.

I would like to see how big those trees are today.

^^ What two small buildings will be used for?

They will house vent shafts and exit stairs.

The memorial isn't supposed to be an icon, it's supposed to be a memorial. The site as a whole will be iconic.

I agree, though I think it will be visited by loads of people and it is a fitting memorial IMO.

White Swamp Oaks grow as much as two feet a year when they are that young so they are about 5 feet taller than in the video.

hey everyone-- I'll be a freshman at NYU in the fall, and just out of curiousity.. by the time WTC1 is finished, do you think it'd be visible at all from Greenwich village? just wondering. Thanks!

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what are those sirens/speakers for? i already realized them last year!
can anybody tell me please?
are they put all over ground zero?

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sorry for using HK999's photo here!!!

I have a few questions about the pace of construction. I'm not trolling, I get that this project is unique logistically.

What has taken the last two floors so long? for a while, it seemed like they were going to be able to put two floors every two weeks up, but they've been stuck on these last two for a while. Does it have to do with the core?

Also, in the bathtub part of the construction site, which structure is the new layer of concrete for?

I have a few questions about the pace of construction. I'm not trolling, I get that this project is unique logistically.

What has taken the last two floors so long? for a while, it seemed like they were going to be able to put two floors every two weeks up, but they've been stuck on these last two for a while. Does it have to do with the core?

Also, in the bathtub part of the construction site, which structure is the new layer of concrete for?Yea its because the core is lagging behind the steel so they are stopping steel work until it reaches a certain height i think

It will be a amazing tower. I can't wait to see it!

I have a few questions about the pace of construction. I'm not trolling, I get that this project is unique logistically.

What has taken the last two floors so long? for a while, it seemed like they were going to be able to put two floors every two weeks up, but they've been stuck on these last two for a while. Does it have to do with the core?

Also, in the bathtub part of the construction site, which structure is the new layer of concrete for?

The concrete contractor was taking too long with the core, so they had to postpone steel erection for a while.

As for the concrete in the bathtub, I'm assuming you mean the slab they poured over the transportation hub site. That's just a pad for the Manitowoc. (it will get torn up later, but without it the crawler would just sink into the dirt)

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:banana::banana::banana: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FoZB0scTIL4 :banana::banana::banana:

By GreenwichBoy, WNY, 6-3-10.

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Concrete core looks about around the 4th mechanical level atm.

Looks like office floors 26 and 27 are not that far away, maybe another week :)

very legal

nice up date....

what are those sirens/speakers for?
Probably for the Muezzin of the new mosque.

/s

December 2009 March 2010
A full description of the 1st Quarter 2010 milestones is provided below, along with a
three-month look ahead at the key milestones for the 2nd Quarter of 2010.
1st Quarter 2010
National September 11 Memorial & Museum
 Complete Erection of Sector 1A Steel - Complete
This critical section in the southeast corner of the Memorial required the
coordination of both the Memorial and Transportation Hub programs. It is
comprised of over 380 tons of steel and outlined the southern foundation’s
northeastern edge. Completing this sector allows for the construction of the south
pump room and forms the northeastern perimeter of the south fountain.
 Complete Core and Shell of the South Fountain Pump Room - Complete
This area established the location for the mechanical equipment that will operate
the south fountain of the Memorial. Its completion allowed the start of the
Mechanical, Electrical, and Plumbing placement within the pump room. The
installations of these mechanical items are crucial to having functional fountains
for the tenth anniversary of the 9/11 attacks.
 Complete Turnover of the Central Chiller Plant for Fit-Out - Complete
The Central Chiller Plant is a critical component of the HVAC systems for the
Memorial. The completion of the core and shell work allowed the start of
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equipment and MEP installation. Currently, 36 inch diameter piping is being
installed in the piping gallery on both the 242’ and 256’ level.
 Start Sector 3A Concrete - Complete
Concrete placement began on all levels of Sector 3A. Currently, 3,400 CY of the
3,800 CY of deck slab has been placed along with a substantial amount of the
overall 6,500 CY of concrete in the area. Sector 3A is located over the inbound
and operational PATH tracks. Completion of this concrete work allows for
operations to proceed in this area without the need for PATH outages.
 Finish Spray-on Fireproofing in Sector 3 and Start Spray-on Fireproofing in
Sector 4 - Complete
The fireproofing material is sprayed to the underside of the metal decking and
columns to slow the effects of heat on the materials to which it is applied. It is a
necessary requirement for occupancy of the space.
WTC Transportation Hub
 First Roof Steel to Site - Complete
Delivery of this material was the first structural steel to the site to support the
PATH Hall roof structure. This enabled the start of steel placement, which is
critical to the “Deckover” approach that was established during the 2008
Assessment to expedite the completion of the Memorial Plaza. This “Deckover”
approach will help deliver the 25 foot section of the northeast corner of the
Memorial Plaza by 9/11/11. The first sections delivered to the site included the
Calatrava columns that make up a portion of the sweeping arches of the PATH
Hall Transit Hall roof system. The concept for these columns – to simplify the
Calatrava-designed PATH Hall – was also developed during the 2008
Assessment.
 Begin East Box Girder Shoring - Complete
Currently, temporary footings and columns are in place to support the East Box
Girder assembly and installation. The East Box Girder is a primary support
member of the #1 Subway Line in the PATH Hall area. This 200-foot, 1,500-ton
beam will transfer the Hub Roof loads to the super columns. Moving forward, the
East Box Girder has been re-sequenced to allow for better coordination between
the temporary shoring and permanent PATH columns. It is expected to arrive on
site toward the end of 2010.
 Begin Plate Girder Erection (AS-1) and Continue with Plate Girder (BS-1)
erection - Complete
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These plate girders provide support for the arches that tie into the East Box Girder
and North/South Shear Wall. Currently, portions of BS-1, the northern plate
girder, are in place forming the north eastern portion of the north pool. The first
section of the AS-1 plate girder arrived at the end of the quarter and was recently
installed on the North/South Shear Wall. This work is being closely coordinated
with the Memorial Pavilion steel which will be installed over select girders in the
Southern portion of the PATH Hall. Additional sections of the girders will be
erected as they arrive on site.
 Complete Access Bridge for Memorial Pavilion Transfer Structure - Complete
This temporary bridge located in the southeast corner of the Memorial allows for
crane access to the area to provide construction material for the southern portion
of the PATH Station and eastern portion of the Memorial Plaza.
 Complete PATH Hall Roof Footings in NE Quadrant - Incomplete
This work will serve as the base for the columns that support the PATH Hall roof.
In order to maintain continuity with the integration of the Tishman-Turner JV and
the phasing out of Phoenix Constructors, a series of early-action contracts were
awarded. One of those contracts was the completion of the foundations for the
PATH Hall steel. It called for the completion of 17 footings by the end of the 1Q.
Ten of 17 were complete by the end of the 1Q. The reason this milestone was
missed was because it was re-sequenced, based upon priority, in order to
coordinate several different trades working within close proximity of each other.
Currently, all but one of the footings is complete (the remaining one will be
complete before the end of the month) and the availability of the footings is not
delaying steel erection. All foundations will be ready for steel by the end of May
2010.
WTC Vehicular Security Center and Tour Bus Parking Facility
 Complete Demising Wall - Complete
Completion of the Demising Wall finalized the cut off of the western portion of
the south bathtub and allows for the excavation and tieback work to start. By
completing the bisection of the site, we hope to be able to mitigate some (but not
all) of the VSC delays caused by the delay in the deconstruction of the former
Deutsche Bank building (130 Liberty Street).
 Begin Excavation in Western portion of site - Incomplete
Delays to the completion of the 130 Liberty Street demolition and the relocation
of NYSDOT’s Liberty Street Pedestrian Bridge caused this milestone to slip into
the 2nd Quarter of 2010. The bridge relocation was completed by NYSDOT on
April 22, allowing the contractor to demolish and remove the old pedestrian
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bridge. The excavation could not start until the Liberty Street Pedestrian Bridge
was relocated. This work will eventually allow the foundation work and the
placement of VSC steel to begin in the western portion of the VSC site.
 Complete Liberty Street Bridge Relocation - Incomplete
As discussed above, the relocated pedestrian bridge opened on April 22nd. The
newly redirected Liberty Street Bridge will allow pedestrians to walk from the
World Financial Center, across West Street and exit at 90 West in the vicinity of
Albany Street.
One World Trade Center
 Steel Erection Complete - 20th Floor - Complete
Steel erection reached the 20th floor level in the first quarter. The contractor is
now installing a protective state-of-the art “cocoon.” The cocoon wraps the entire
perimeter of the building and extends two floors above the working deck. When
complete, the cocoon will protect a total of 16 floors at any given time. The
cocoon allows the steel erection, concrete placement and spray on fireproofing
operations to take place within a completely wrapped perimeter, enhancing
worker safety, the safety of the public and workers on the ground, and worker
productivity given that it partially shields the workspace from the elements.
 Utility Connections to West Street – Water, Sewer and Fire Services - Complete
This represents the ability of 1WTC to make connections to major utility services
including domestic water, water for the sprinkler system, and the City’s sewer
system. Preparation for these connections within the building is complete and the
final connection of these systems will be coordinated with NYSDOT, as they
continue their work along West Street. Permanent activation of these services is
scheduled to occur by 1st Quarter 2012. Temporary construction power
connections have been completed.
 Concrete Core & Slabs Complete – 3rd Floor - Complete
The completion of the concrete core of the building allows for steel erection to
proceed at higher floors. The core also provides the shell of the vertical
transportation items such as the elevators and emergency egress stairwells.
Greenwich Street
 Excavation under #1 Subway Line between Bents 90-150 to Elevation 240' -
Incomplete
Work in this area was re-sequenced in order to focus on key excavation locations
under the #1 Subway Line to accommodate the massive super column footing
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installation. Currently, over 75% of the area is at elevation 240’ or below (some
as low as 218’). The remaining area in the center of the underpass is
approximately at the 250’ level as the contractors focus on the continued rock
excavation for the super columns. Once the super column footing excavation is
complete, the contractor will shift operations back to the center area which they
have already pre-drilled for excavation. This should not affect the project’s
overall critical path.
Looking Ahead – 2nd Quarter 2010
National September 11 Memorial & Museum
 Memorial Plaza to Grade
This represents the placement of concrete to the 307’ level on all of the remaining
Memorial Plaza areas exclusive of the Northeast Quadrant over the PATH Hall
Roof and south mezzanine. Some other penetrations will remain in the Plaza to
enable delivery of chiller plant equipment, large artifact placement and the
continued operation of the north and south hoists.
 Pavilion Steel Erection Begins
This is the start of the steel erection for the Museum Pavilion structure located
north of the southern fountain and serving as the entrance to the Memorial
Museum below. With the resequencing of steel erection for the Transportation
Hub, the start of the erection of the Pavilion Steel is being scheduled to support
9/11/11 commitments and the placement of the Back Span beams for the
Transportation Hub. This start date may be moved to early 3rd quarter, depending
on the Hub’s back span erection resequencing.
 Complete Concrete for West Vent Structure
Comprised of two separate structures, this element serves as primary air exchange
for the Memorial, Central Chiller Plant, PATH Tunnel, and other sub-grade
program spaces. This concrete represents the outside walls of the structure and
will enable the Plaza to be brought to grade as per the Plaza construction phasing
plan that has been coordinated with the Memorial Foundation. The West Vent
Structure will also house a freight elevator which will be critical in providing
material access to the Memorial and will enable both the north and south
temporary hoists to be removed.
 North Fountain Vertical Stone 50% Complete
This represents the placement of waterproofing and ornamental face stone along
the vertical face of two of the four 180 foot wide perimeter walls of the
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Memorial’s northern fountain. This will enable completion of the plaza in those
areas.
WTC Transportation Hub
 PATH Hall Arch Installation Begins
These arches serve as the major spanning elements of the PATH Hall roof. This
roof area also serves as the extreme Northeast Quadrant of the Memorial Plaza.
 Complete Super Column Foundation Work
These foundations support the main columns (dubbed “Super Columns” due to
their massive size), which in turn support the 200’ underpass span of the #1
Subway Line. This work represents the rock excavation required for placement of
the super column footings
 Complete 6.C.1 Steel Erection over the PATH Substation
This steel rises above and below the PATH substation at the extreme south end of
the site, forming the south edge of the south pool at the Memorial Plaza.
 Install Girders and Pre-cast Slabs in the 20 B,C,D Area
The start of this activity, which must be done over the PATH railway right of
way, will support the construction of the East Spot Network core and shell
mentioned above. The precast slabs also serve as ventilation ducts for the PATH
tracks.
WTC Vehicular Security Center and Tour Bus Parking Facility
 Start Excavation
This was the original milestone in the October 2008 Assessment to start
excavation for the entire VSC bathtub. Because of third-party delays in the
deconstruction of 130 Liberty Street, a work-around was implemented last year in
which the site was bisected with a demising wall so excavation could begin on the
western portion of the VSC site while the eastern portion was still occupied by the
130 Liberty Street building. Excavation has begun in the western portion of the
site, following the relocation of the Liberty Street Pedestrian Bridge by
NYSDOT, which occurred in April 2010.
 Award Rock Excavation and Foundation Package
The scope of these contracts includes the excavation of rock to as low as elevation
205’ for mechanical spaces beginning in the western portion of the VSC site. The
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foundation contract includes the construction of foundations for all future building
elements.
 Award Structural Steel Detailing Contract
The scope of this package includes early detailing of the complex structural
connections associated with the vehicular ramp helix and structural-steel framing,
as well as for the production of a 3-D model of the structure to identify any
potential conflicts with the structural steel and the concrete perimeter walls.
 Award Structural Steel Contract
The scope of this package is to fabricate and install structural steel beginning in
the western portion of the VSC site. The procurement of this work was resequenced
to account for the delay to the 130 Liberty Street demolition. Awarding
of this contract will occur as a more certain date is obtained for the demolition of
130 Liberty Street.
One World Trade Center
 Start Spray Fireproofing
This represents the beginning of fireproofing operations that will continue to
follow steel erection and concrete decking construction throughout the remainder
of building construction. The fireproofing material is applied to the underside of
metal decking and on exposed steel members to slow the effects of heat to protect
the structural integrity of the steel.
 Steel Erection to 32nd Floor
Steel erection will continue moving at a faster pace going forward as the
contractor gets into a rhythm of constructing the “standard” floor and the concrete
core construction becomes less complicated, allowing for more efficient concrete
pours. In the 2nd quarter the contractor is also placing the protective “cocoon”
safety netting system on the outside of the tower which will also affect
sequencing of the erection during this quarter.
 Metal Decking to 27th Floor
This represents the metal decking on the 27th floor slab, which is approximately
270 feet above street level. Concrete slab work will begin once the decking is in
place, welded and approved.
Greenwich Street
 East and West Truss Installation
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This represents the beginning of the installation of the trusses that sit atop the
super columns and span the 200’ wide PATH Underpass. They will serve as part
of a bridge to support the #1 Subway Line in this area.
 Excavation Complete to the 262 ft level (South End)
This represents the second level of excavation under the #1 Subway Line,
exposing the mini-pile supports so that they can be encased in the permanent
concrete structural slabs and walls.
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QUARTERLY UPDATE
The following sections detail the significant actions taken over the past quarter:
Highlights (as of March 31, 2010)
National September 11 Memorial & Museum
 Approximately 9,000 CY of concrete was placed in the Memorial. This concrete
was delivered by nearly 1,000 concrete trucks. Currently, 62 percent of the
Memorial concrete – 31,000 CY of the 50,000 CY – has been placed to date
 Steel erection for the Plaza is now substantially complete
 Over 2.7 million pounds of rebar were installed in the 1st quarter and over 10.8
million pounds have been installed to date. If laid end to end, this rebar would
stretch from New York City to Atlanta, Georgia
 Began waterproofing and vertical stone placement in the North Fountain
 Started installation of the air handling units within the Memorial mechanical
spaces
 Started placement of the concrete in the walls of the South Fountain
 Fountain pumps have been delivered to the North Pump Room
 Over 45 miles of high and low-voltage wiring installed
WTC Transportation Hub
 Removed the existing slurry wall between the E/W Connector and the 9A
underpass area
 Rock blasting and removal operations are substantially complete in the area of the
former H&M station site. This area will be the location of the foundation for the
Transit Hall. Currently, the area is being used as a crane pad for the Manitowoc
18,000 crane recently relocated from 1 WTC – capable of lifting over 800 tons of
material
 Eleven of 12 areas on the 274’ level under the #1 Subway Line have structural
slabs completed
 Completed excavation to the 274’ level under the #1 Subway Line for the topdown
construction. Currently excavating on the 261’ level
 Installed the first “Hammerhead Column” along the PATH platform area
 First Calatrava columns in the Path Hall Transit Hall area were delivered and
installed
 South Tower Crane installed to assist wit the erection of the PATH Hall steel
 Installed over 50% of the structural steel in areas 20BCD.1 and 6C.1
One World Trade Center
 Reached the 22nd floor for steel erection (currently up to the 26th floor)
 Began installation of the state-of-the-art Cocoon System
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 Placed over 3,700 CY of superstructure concrete in the 1st quarter. To date, over
64,000 CY has been placed, which is enough concrete to build a sidewalk over
325 miles long.
 Installed approximately 4,200 tons of superstructure steel in the 1st quarter, the
equivalent amount of steel in 30 Statues of Liberty. This brings the total to over
10,000 tons to date.
 Metal deck installation was complete up to the 4th floor by the end of the quarter
and is now installed to the 22nd floor.
 Placed corner nodes steel from the 20 – 24th story level. This enabled the
movement of the two large crawler cranes within the site to support the Hub
construction
 Installed a permanent concrete pumping station on Vesey Street
VSC
 Completed construction of the demising wall to bisect the site. This proactive
approach is being used to mitigate some of the third-party delays with the
deconstruction of 130 Liberty Street.
 Completed the installation of the remaining slurry panels in the western portion of
the site and completed all buttress panels along Cedar Street. These are critical to
allow for the excavation of the site.
 Over 4,000 CY of concrete in place
 Approximately 650 tons of rebar installed
Infrastructure
 Rigged and installed all four 42” River Water Pipes from the slurry wall to the
242’ level of the Central Chiller Plant. These pipes weighed in excess of 7 tons
each
 Began installation of the 36” diameter piping in the Central Chiller Plant piping
gallery at the 242’ and 256’ levels. Currently, over 500 LF of pipe has been
installed
WTC Office of Program Logistics
The Office of Program Logistics advances its work through efforts in four primary areas:
 Planning and Analysis
 Stakeholder Coordination
 Communication
 Operations
Planning / Analysis: The Office expanded proactive efforts to develop and maintain the
coordinated movement of vehicles and pedestrians around the site perimeter while
providing site access for construction vehicles to ensure construction productivity.
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 Continued work with NYCDOT and the 9/11 Memorial and Museum in studying
approaches to accommodate tour buses for the period between 9/12/11 and the
opening of the Vehicle Security Center.
 Continued to study the effect of increasing the number of trucks accessing One
WTC via Washington Street. This issue becomes more and more important as the
newly opened Goldman Sachs building on the northwest corner of Vesey and
Route 9A continues its phased occupancy. The Office also started planning a
program to update pedestrian counts and vehicle volume data in the spring of
2010. This data serves as critical input in the traffic engineering and planning
analyses the Office is undertaking to support smooth movement of pedestrians
and vehicles around the site.
 Regular noise monitoring continued to enable us to take steps to mitigate to the
greatest extent possible the impact of construction noise on the surrounding
community. The Office collaborated with contractors to launch a construction
schedule for the East Bathtub. This schedule tracks and informs stakeholders,
including the Millennium Hotel and its guests, of any construction activity that
might generate significant noise. In addition, a new noise monitor consultant was
recruited to work site-wide on noise-related issues.
Stakeholder Coordination: Continuing stakeholder outreach efforts to identify and
proactively address issues related to various construction projects on the WTC site.
 Coordination continues with NYCDOT and NYSDOT to revise the West Street
haul road conditions along Route 9A, south of Vesey Street. Gate 2B’s required
traffic signal has been installed and the gate will now serve to relieve construction
vehicle congestion around One World Trade Center. Gate 2B will provide
another egress for vehicles staged along Fulton Street and those traveling north
along the haul road for the Memorial Site. On the south side of the site, the Office
began coordination in the relocation of Gate 7 now that the Liberty Bridge work is
complete.
 Coordinated and designed Fulton Street access/egress along the south side of One
WTC. Inside the site Fulton Street was brought to grade which helped improve
truck logistics and material delivery to the One WTC and Hub West projects.
 Developed and implemented a comprehensive way-finding and signage plan to
direct pedestrians to the new Liberty Street pedestrian bridge access location on
West Street (near Albany Street). Prior to opening the new bridge entrance, wayfinding
signage was revealed approaching the bridge. Advance notification
signage was strategically established around the immediate area of the bridge and
arrangements made for Pedestrian Managers to occupy strategic locations
approaching the pedestrian bridge to inform and direct the public as the bridge
opened. Stakeholders such as NYSDOT, NYCDOT, LMCCC, Battery Park City
Authority, Brookfield Properties and the Downtown Alliance were informed
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through presentations and meetings, as well as via routine construction alerts. The
Office coordinated the placement of images that have been designed to enhance
the interior of the extension.
Operations: Coordinating future WTC site operation requirements that will address safety
of labor and coordinated vehicle and pedestrian flow, both in the current condition and as
portions of the site become operational.
 The Site Logistics Coordination Center (SLCC) started testing in February under
the oversight of the Office. When all fence modifications are in place, the SLCC
will have the capability to view all access points/gates to the WTC site. Its Closed
Circuit Television cameras and associated Truck Arrival Scheduling System
(TASS) is expected to begin normal operation in the second quarter of 2010. The
TASS is part of the Port Authority’s ongoing efforts to efficiently manage the
construction process and minimize impacts on the Downtown community.
 Continued its Pedestrian Management Program, which places pedestrian
management personnel at key intersections around the WTC site. The Office has
been working closely with NYCDOT to ensure an enhanced pedestrian
experience at these intersections. At the request of the community and NYCDOT,
the Office continues to maintain pedestrian management coverage at specific
locations around the site.
Communication: Providing a central information source for stakeholders, agencies, and
the general public regarding WTC program logistics and ongoing progress.
 Continued to publish its monthly construction progress newsletter, which provides
stakeholders and the general public with an inside look at WTC site construction
progress and how the Port Authority is achieving its site-wide goals. The
newsletter has expanded its reach as the Office made it available in several
downtown museums, including the Fire Museum, Police Museum and Skyscraper
Museum.
 All temporary street closures, night work, construction-related noise and crane
activities were communicated to stakeholders via the weekly construction
schedule, which forecasts site work for two-week periods. Construction Alerts
and Updates were dispatched as necessary, informing stakeholders of construction

what are those sirens/speakers for? i already realized them last year!
can anybody tell me please?
are they put all over ground zero?

http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/5496/bild1hw.jpg
sorry for using HK999's photo here!!!

They have them all over the NYC Metro , usually in CBD's. There Emergency Alert Sirens and Speakers. Here's one i took in Downtown Jersey City. Its part of a Security Ring , also comes with Bollards , Tons Cameras , and every new building has like a Subway sytle turnstile to enter the building. Along with Airport type Screening.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3387/4627592669_710c38a6a9_b.jpg

they are used to house the vent structure for the underground area of the Memorial and utilities.

thanks!:banana:

Anyone else not so thrilled about this? I'm a new poster here, and just from what I've seen posters seem to fall into two categories: technical people and casual fanboys. Either you post lots of specs and discuss them, or you say things like "Ohhhhh I can't wait to see it!" as if any new, big project is a good one. Maybe I'm missing something, but I feel like we should be thinking harder on a stylistic/aesthetic/architectural level.

My deal with this tower is that it seems to fall into most of the pitfalls of 21st Century supertall architectural without having many of the merits. In the 50s and 60s we had an "International Style", i.e. buildings that basically have nothing to do with their particular cites-- many people find these to be generally the least interesting (and ugliest) buildings in the modern skyline. In my opinion, that International Style isn't half as International as new trends we get. Basically, to be "creative" today all you need is a few elements: glass, steel, and angles. Almost any combination will do. I think some people are immediately drawn to this because it's looks modern or postmodern almost in a graphic novel kind of way, but it carries a huge huge downside. Basically, take a really close look at the new design and decide if you think something about it screams NEW YORK. I don't. Look at the Empire State Building-- that, for sure, screams New York and did as well in the 1930s. Look at the more recent Citicorp Bldg., I would argue that that also seems like a New York kind of place. Hell, even the UN Secretariat. Hindsight is always nice in determining what is New York and what isn't, but I think you can actually find objective criteria for this. Even the old Twin Towers didn't really have analogues elsewhere in the world. Now, again, look at this one. I could see it in Hong Kong, Singapore, somewhere else in Asia, maybe even a European city. Someone, please, how is this design indigenous to New York? How is it not simply the product of an international design team with an international aesthetic? For a project with this historical importance and symbolism, this matters more than ever.

A couple things: 1) I have somewhat overstated my case to get a response... I don't hate it quite that much, 2) This was by no means the worst proposal I saw.

It may not be New York now but it will be in 50 years

First Quarter 2010 Report finally available:

http://www.panynj.gov/wtcprogress/quarterly-reports.html

Anyone else not so thrilled about this? I'm a new poster here, and just from what I've seen posters seem to fall into two categories: technical people and casual fanboys. Either you post lots of specs and discuss them, or you say things like "Ohhhhh I can't wait to see it!" as if any new, big project is a good one. Maybe I'm missing something, but I feel like we should be thinking harder on a stylistic/aesthetic/architectural level.

My deal with this tower is that it seems to fall into most of the pitfalls of 21st Century supertall architectural without having many of the merits. In the 50s and 60s we had an "International Style", i.e. buildings that basically have nothing to do with their particular cites-- many people find these to be generally the least interesting (and ugliest) buildings in the modern skyline. In my opinion, that International Style isn't half as International as new trends we get. Basically, to be "creative" today all you need is a few elements: glass, steel, and angles. Almost any combination will do. I think some people are immediately drawn to this because it's looks modern or postmodern almost in a graphic novel kind of way, but it carries a huge huge downside. Basically, take a really close look at the new design and decide if you think something about it screams NEW YORK. I don't. Look at the Empire State Building-- that, for sure, screams New York and did as well in the 1930s. Look at the more recent Citicorp Bldg., I would argue that that also seems like a New York kind of place. Hell, even the UN Secretariat. Hindsight is always nice in determining what is New York and what isn't, but I think you can actually find objective criteria for this. Even the old Twin Towers didn't really have analogues elsewhere in the world. Now, again, look at this one. I could see it in Hong Kong, Singapore, somewhere else in Asia, maybe even a European city. Someone, please, how is this design indigenous to New York? How is it not simply the product of an international design team with an international aesthetic? For a project with this historical importance and symbolism, this matters more than ever.

A couple things: 1) I have somewhat overstated my case to get a response... I don't hate it quite that much, 2) This was by no means the worst proposal I saw.

A couple things to keep in mind. The renders most commonly seen by the public of 1WTC are actually inaccurate because they show the footprint of the building as being a parallelogram, as opposed to its actual shape of a perfect square (with chamfered corners).

You've probably seen this render, which is very unflattering for 1WTC:

http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/8741/fosterrogersmakiri1.jpg

This render, however, shows the site with more or less proper dimensions, and you can see more clearly the subtle "New York" elements of the tower. Most obvious to me are the angled lines that converge at the top of the tower and continue upward into a spire, which is of course something you would ever seen in any asian city. The roof also contains subtle hints to the design of the twin towers. But my favorite aspect of the tower as a whole as that it completely changes depending on what angle you look at it. It appears to be fatter and somewhat rounded from the angle in the render below, and straight/thin with clear triangular elements from the render above.

http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/3305/1230downtownskylinebyduzb0.jpg

I think 1WTC is about as New York as you can get while still retaining a modern and international look, and aside from you, just about everyone else agrees. The entire site (with the memorial and all four towers) is meant to be taken as a whole rather than each building individually (as it's supposed to evoke a feel similar to the Statue of Liberty). It's a design that takes some getting used to looking at the renders, but I think the world is in for a big surprise when it's finished. It will assuredly be stunning and iconic when it's all finally done.

i wish i could get an apartment on the top floors :S but that will never happen D:

I Took this at the Jersey City 9/11 Memorial , you an see the WTC site in the distance...

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1299/4673160322_4a5bd1e3c1_b.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1295/4673160266_784b135a33_b.jpg

i love America and WTC 1

Anyone else not so thrilled about this? I'm a new poster here, and just from what I've seen posters seem to fall into two categories: technical people and casual fanboys. Either you post lots of specs and discuss them, or you say things like "Ohhhhh I can't wait to see it!" as if any new, big project is a good one. Maybe I'm missing something, but I feel like we should be thinking harder on a stylistic/aesthetic/architectural level.

My deal with this tower is that it seems to fall into most of the pitfalls of 21st Century supertall architectural without having many of the merits. In the 50s and 60s we had an "International Style", i.e. buildings that basically have nothing to do with their particular cites-- many people find these to be generally the least interesting (and ugliest) buildings in the modern skyline. In my opinion, that International Style isn't half as International as new trends we get. Basically, to be "creative" today all you need is a few elements: glass, steel, and angles. Almost any combination will do. I think some people are immediately drawn to this because it's looks modern or postmodern almost in a graphic novel kind of way, but it carries a huge huge downside. Basically, take a really close look at the new design and decide if you think something about it screams NEW YORK. I don't. Look at the Empire State Building-- that, for sure, screams New York and did as well in the 1930s. Look at the more recent Citicorp Bldg., I would argue that that also seems like a New York kind of place. Hell, even the UN Secretariat. Hindsight is always nice in determining what is New York and what isn't, but I think you can actually find objective criteria for this. Even the old Twin Towers didn't really have analogues elsewhere in the world. Now, again, look at this one. I could see it in Hong Kong, Singapore, somewhere else in Asia, maybe even a European city. Someone, please, how is this design indigenous to New York? How is it not simply the product of an international design team with an international aesthetic? For a project with this historical importance and symbolism, this matters more than ever.

A couple things: 1) I have somewhat overstated my case to get a response... I don't hate it quite that much, 2) This was by no means the worst proposal I saw.

empire state building was the tallest when it was built. that's what was 'screaming new york' im sure it would have screamed the name of wherever it was built like a cheap whore. and the only reason you think it symbolizes nyc now is because it's been there for 80 years. you don't see the same architecture because asians and europeans weren't building supertalls back in the day.

i look at all the supertalls going up in dubai and then i look at the renders of this and the thought "qaulity, not qauntity" so comes to mind. for me, this is the most iconic building going up in the world at the moment and the design is so timeless, that it will continue to be a New York, an American, a World icon for its entire existance. And that doesnt even taken into account what this building and the site that its on represents.

I believe that the design of the WTC1 is the best they could choose. It looks like as if there are 2 towers inside of 1 and blend their lines, so it is a fitting tribute to the old wtc towers.

for me, this is the most iconic building going up in the world at the moment and the design is so timeless, that it will continue to be a New York, an American, a World icon for its entire existance.
It fits well into NYC and a lot of other designs would have looked alien there, but i don't see how one could in all honesty consider it the most iconic on the global stage.

Something like the Shanghai Tower with its fluid generative modeling approach seems far more like an icon of the 21st century cityscape to me.

It fits well into NYC and a lot of other designs would have looked alien there, but i don't see how one could in all honesty consider it the most iconic on the global stage.

Something like the Shanghai Tower with its fluid generative modeling approach seems far more like an icon of the 21st century cityscape to me.

Shanghai tower is not a timeless design though, as you said so yourself, it fits into the 21st century. A timeless design is exactly that, it doesn't scream 21st century or art deco and so forth. It is infinitely more relevant as a result, and acknowledging what the structure does represent makes it all the more iconic. Ask someone who is not an achitectural enthusiast what the Burj Kalifa is and they'll tell you it's the tallest building in the world. Ask them what the freedom tower is and they'll tell you it's in NYC, the world trade centre rebuilt. Ask them what the Shanghai Tower is and the chances of them actually knowing what you are specifically referring to are far less.

Ask them what the Shanghai Tower is and the chances of them actually knowing what you are specifically referring to are far less.

you know what might make st famous?

what if they built it, somebody blows it up, then they rebuild another one? is it going to be a 'timeless icon' then? lol?

incredibly disrespectful. Fucking worthless troll

^^ But he's right. People mostly consider owtc so iconic becouse of the place it will be build, and becouse of the history related to it.

incredibly disrespectful. Fucking worthless troll

are you retarded who am i disrespecting

Shanghai tower is not a timeless design though, as you said so yourself, it fits into the 21st century. A timeless design is exactly that, it doesn't scream 21st century or art deco and so forth. It is infinitely more relevant as a result, and acknowledging what the structure does represent makes it all the more iconic. Ask someone who is not an achitectural enthusiast what the Burj Kalifa is and they'll tell you it's the tallest building in the world. Ask them what the freedom tower is and they'll tell you it's in NYC, the world trade centre rebuilt. Ask them what the Shanghai Tower is and the chances of them actually knowing what you are specifically referring to are far less.

I disagree with what you say about the Shanghai Tower.

It may not be well known now, but once it's complete, regardless of whether it'll be the 3rd or 2nd tallest won't matter, people will remember it for the stunning design for yes, the 21st century and it will be a timeless nonetheless in one of the world's most well known and respected cities Shanghai. People's opinion on one side of the earth are those of THIER OWN and don't reflect on what the world populous think or say.

IMO, 1WTC and Shanghai Tower are both suited for thier locations and classy in 2 world mega cities.

Back to the 1WTC thread now.

i look at all the supertalls going up in dubai and then i look at the renders of this and the thought "qaulity, not qauntity" so comes to mind. for me, this is the most iconic building going up in the world at the moment and the design is so timeless, that it will continue to be a New York, an American, a World icon for its entire existance. And that doesnt even taken into account what this building and the site that its on represents.

i totally agree with this dubai has really soulless looking towers which dont blend well together because they are a massive mishmash of different conflicting styles

^^ But he's right. People mostly consider owtc so iconic becouse of the place it will be build, and becouse of the history related to it.

I have to agree. Really, think about it, if this tower was any where else in NYC, would it really be that special?

Now, this is just "my" opinion, but I find the tower simply disjointed. Really, what is going on at the top? If you're going to build a tower with a massive spire, at least try to work with the design like Adrian Smith did with the Burj Khalifa.

Really, what is going on at the top?

Thats just the proove how NY doesn't care about height ;) But, I have ontopic question now, becouse I don't remember. The spire, will it have any functionality, will it be antenna inside? Or is it just to increase the height?

Thats just the proove how NY doesn't care about height ;) But, I have ontopic question now, becouse I don't remember. The spire, will it have any functionality, will it be antenna inside? Or is it just to increase the height?

Sorry this doesnt answer your question but i think the tower would look strange without a spire.

The tower had a spire because the original 1WTC had an antenna. They serve the same design purpose (although currently, plans for antennae in the spire have been scrapped). Keep in mind also that the actual design of the spire is not represented in any of the renderings.

I disagree with what you say about the Shanghai Tower.

It may not be well known now, but once it's complete, regardless of whether it'll be the 3rd or 2nd tallest won't matter, people will remember it for the stunning design for yes, the 21st century and it will be a timeless nonetheless in one of the world's most well known and respected cities Shanghai. People's opinion on one side of the earth are those of THIER OWN and don't reflect on what the world populous think or say.

IMO, 1WTC and Shanghai Tower are both suited for thier locations and classy in 2 world mega cities.

Back to the 1WTC thread now.
I never said Shanghai wasnt suited to its location, I just said 1WTC will be more iconic, and I think I clearly stated my reasoning for this. They are both very different towers in totally different leagues. Both great towers, but different nontheless.

Anyway, I dont want to take the thread too far OT.

cheers

Boy, I hope we see new steel soon. This thread goes downhill so quickly without steady progress.

Sorry this doesnt answer your question but i think the tower would look strange without a spire.

AGREED

Boy, I hope we see new steel soon. This thread goes downhill so quickly without steady progress.

not like this post is helping to keep it on topic at all

not like this post is helping to keep it on topic at all

neither did yours. :bash:

Anyways... looking less likely they'll hit the 55-60 floor mark by the end of the year.

Affording no more ridiculous delays such as this most recent one, I bet they could hit 50 or close.

I'm betting they'll hit ~50 by the end of the year too. And even that seems generous. Who know what little snafu could strike a few months from now, or after that, and so on...

It's going up, that's all we can ask for.

I never said Shanghai wasnt suited to its location, I just said 1WTC will be more iconic, and I think I clearly stated my reasoning for this. They are both very different towers in totally different leagues. Both great towers, but different nontheless.

Anyway, I dont want to take the thread too far OT.

cheers

No worries, it's my fault for going off topic :). I did state 'in my opinion' about the location, but for status no doubt 1WTC will be more iconic to some but not discounting the Shanghai Tower which will also be well known for it's height status/stunning design, but I think the location itself does contribute to the fact about why it will be a timeless world famous classic like 1WTC will be but that can be discussed elsewhere.

Sorry, back to the thread now :)

So considering this whole delay has been due to slow core progress...

has anyone been down there lately and had a chance to see which floor the core is on?

How close does the core have to be to the current level for the steel to proceed?

Are we still going to see base cladding towards the end of the year regardless of the delay?

I don't see why not.

It was some big concrete pouring few days ago, so a guess they will rise some still soon.

From wtcprogess.com (http://www.panynj.gov/wtcprogress/index.html):
9/11 Memorial's North Pool granite installation complete.
http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/7061/wtcmemorialgranitenorth.jpg

^^ Wow! Almost done! Are they going to open memorial site before Freedom Tower/WTC 4?

^^ Wow! Almost done! Are they going to open memorial site before Freedom Tower/WTC 4?Yes they will be opening it in 2011

just as I thought for 10th anniversary :)

Yes they will be opening it in 2011

We'll see. I have my doubts the NE corner will be finished.

We'll see. I have my doubts the NE corner will be finished.

They'll open it for the 10-year anniversary and then shut it back down so it doesn't get screwed up during construction.

I wonder how folks would even access the memorial plaza. To the north Fulton Street won't be finished. Greenwich St certainly won't be available. The area surrounding the Pavillion will no doubt be blocked off. To the south there is major VSC construction activity. That really only leaves the west side. But how would anyone get there? Perhaps another temporary bridge extension?

What a joke. I hope heads roll next summer.

:ohno: Hd cam has frozen again i dont want to see heads roll next summer i want to see a solution as much as i would like to see people pay for the delays and crap i want the site to get done and get properly done without anymore screw ups by people!

We'll see. I have my doubts the NE corner will be finished.Look at pictures of the site on Sept 2009 they have come a long way compared to then i think they will make it

I Took this at the Jersey City 9/11 Memorial , you an see the WTC site in the distance...

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1299/4673160322_4a5bd1e3c1_b.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1295/4673160266_784b135a33_b.jpg


I appreciate the thought but I think the design is rather simpleton. Almost cheap.

A couple things to keep in mind. The renders most commonly seen by the public of 1WTC are actually inaccurate because they show the footprint of the building as being a parallelogram, as opposed to its actual shape of a perfect square (with chamfered corners).

You've probably seen this render, which is very unflattering for 1WTC:

http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/8741/fosterrogersmakiri1.jpg

This render, however, shows the site with more or less proper dimensions, and you can see more clearly the subtle "New York" elements of the tower. Most obvious to me are the angled lines that converge at the top of the tower and continue upward into a spire, which is of course something you would ever seen in any asian city. The roof also contains subtle hints to the design of the twin towers. But my favorite aspect of the tower as a whole as that it completely changes depending on what angle you look at it. It appears to be fatter and somewhat rounded from the angle in the render below, and straight/thin with clear triangular elements from the render above.

http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/3305/1230downtownskylinebyduzb0.jpg

I think 1WTC is about as New York as you can get while still retaining a modern and international look, and aside from you, just about everyone else agrees. The entire site (with the memorial and all four towers) is meant to be taken as a whole rather than each building individually (as it's supposed to evoke a feel similar to the Statue of Liberty). It's a design that takes some getting used to looking at the renders, but I think the world is in for a big surprise when it's finished. It will assuredly be stunning and iconic when it's all finally done.

Amazing that six of those buildings didn't even exist on 9/11/2001

Look at pictures of the site on Sept 2009 they have come a long way compared to then i think they will make it

They have certainly come a long way from the days of just an empty pit. We'll have to see how far they are 12 months from now. But whatever part of the memorial they are able to open up in late '11 or '12, won't be very peaceful or serene.

Amazing that six of those buildings didn't even exist on 9/11/2001

7 actually. (Barclay Tower, 30 Park Place, 1,2,3,7 WTC, and Goldman Sachs)

ive added in 4wtc for comparison, since its just about a supertall.

nice diagram...

Excelent progress!!

From earthcam, today. A lot of floor decking has been placed this week.

http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/3520/96315316.jpg

why do you guys keep quoting that post

this is the most trollable forum on the internet

Your post really has nothing to do with this thread GTFO please


he's a troll dude!..don't bother to respond that!.. let's back to the topic!..(by the way, great progress!)..

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WOW,, Go wtc, go NY!!!!

Cool diagram. Thanks

legend Cul

What is the latest word on towers 2 and three? Also what is the progress on the demolition of the Dueche Bank Building?

I'm loving that second render of the entire site that was posted up, but I cant help but notice 1WTC looks like its on a lean. could be the illusion created by the 6 sided structure but i think it's a little exaggerated.

I've yet to see a single skyscraper render where something didn't look just a tiny bit off. I'm sure it will look spectacular in reality.

SOuth crane is rising! Should be some steel by tomorrow or early next week

Some recent shots:

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http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4072/4658850896_4a0e9271f0_b_d.jpg

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painfully slow

Tower one is rising slowly but surely but what I really like is the memorial moving forward.
Will the pool of the former North Tower finished on the ninth anniversary?
Noticeable is that the colour of the granite is different from the rendering.

OK, is it just me going crazy or are they really just dumping more new concrete on top of the previous layer of concrete -with no reinforcing bars- in the middle of the memorial area to the right of the new concrete with the holes in it? I don't know what it could be for, since they already have 2 reinforced concrete layers below it.

They're adding the floor for the top level they might start adding steel in a week



Just guessing

^^ Good news then :D

Cant wait to visit NY again to see this

slightly off topic but has the beekman tower stoped construction? it hasnt changed at all in quite awhile :S

slightly off topic but has the beekman tower stoped construction? it hasnt changed at all in quite awhile :S

It can't get more off topic! There is a Beekman thread for this! http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=404222&page=108

slightly off topic but has the beekman tower stoped construction? it hasnt changed at all in quite awhile :S

What? It's topped out and they've been putting on the cladding at about one floor a week for the last 3 months.

By GreenwichBoy, WNY, 6-10-10. Scaffolding around the south tower crane jumped. New steel could arrive any day now.

http://wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=9700&d=1276213741

http://wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=9699&d=1276213735

http://www.lowermanhattan.info/construction/project_updates/freedom_tower_26204.aspx

*The following information was last updated on June 10 2010.

* Steel and concrete installation (multiple cranes on site). Tower steel is now above floor 26
* Both the south and north cores are now being erected as the structure rises
* "Cocoon" safety system now in place around upper perimeter, to rise with structure
* Final concrete installation on the sub-grade structure, including the surrounding plaza
* Utility installation and tie-ins
* Crews are coordinating substructure construction while maintaining PATH service

All four 'Subway' scaffold sections are now up one level.

I made a rough photoshop pic showing what the tower should look like when it's on the 36th floor (which is about where it should be on the 9th anniversary)...

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/3609/picture20727.jpg

^^ It'll really start looking like a Tower. Nice job.

So Beautiful!!!!

I have walked past the construction site many times over the past three months, and the base is much smaller than I would have ever imagined. This is going to be a very slim tower, probably less than half of the footprint of one of the previous towers.

I have walked past the construction site many times over the past three months, and the base is much smaller than I would have ever imagined. This is going to be a very slim tower, probably less than half of the footprint of one of the previous towers.

No, the dimensions of the base are very similar to the old towers. OWTC 200 ft, while original WTC was 208 ft.

I have walked past the construction site many times over the past three months, and the base is much smaller than I would have ever imagined. This is going to be a very slim tower, probably less than half of the footprint of one of the previous towers.

Handbanana is right, the footprint of the tower is more or less exactly the same size as the original Twin Towers. This footprint of the original Twin Towers was exactly 207'8", from column center to column center (and the windows were even with the center of the columns, so it makes sense to define the footprint this way. The footprint of the new 1WTC from column center to column center is 200'. However, the windows for the building are not located between the columns. The columns will be covered with some type of cladding and then there will be about a foot of open space and then there will be the actual edge of the building (the windows). It's a lot like how 7WTC is. Based on what ZenSteelDude has said, there will be 2 and a half feet between the column center and the glass window, so the building has a total footprint of 205'. Compared to 207'8".

This is an accurate scaled illustration I made showing the footprint of the Freedom Tower (in red) compared to one of the Twin Towers (in grey):

http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/6283/twinsfreedomfootprint.png

Columns in 7WTC:

http://sites.google.com/site/wtc7lies/0831a.jpg

lol if the base is "smaller than you ever could have imagined" this leads me to believe you've never even once set eyes on it, at least not recently

It looks less bulky because of the angled beams (and openness) of the base. He should sing a different tune when the cladding goes up.

Hey look they are building on top of the old Barclay Vesey building......this could be a race to be the highest in Manhattan...maybe?

By GreenwichBoy, WNY, 6-12-10.

http://wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=9716&d=1276353543

http://wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=9715&d=1276353536

First height increase in a month.

RKOwens44 is spot on in his assessment. Tower One is only a few feet smaller than the Twins and well be the same hight.

From recent pics I can say that I well be shocked if the steel erection does not continue this coming week. The cranes have jumped as have the work platforms and the 26th floor is decked out.

Hey look they are building on top of the old Barclay Vesey building......this could be a race to be the highest in Manhattan...maybe?

LMAO, they are just doing some work on the cooling towers.

I wonder when we'll see that mysterious 3rd crane.

That all depends on the concrete contractor and progress at street level.

I wonder when we'll see that mysterious 3rd crane.

Hmmm, I did see a truck with what seemed to be crane parts right by the WTC site yesterday afternoon (on the corner of Liberty and Trinity I believe). Im not sure if that's the crane you are referring to or if this is a new one to be used on one of the other 3 wtc buildings?

LMAO, they are just doing some work on the cooling towers.

That makes sense.....I have a warped sense of humor at times.....wasn't serious! Cooling towers......do you have much trouble with Legionnaires Disease over there? I know with very tall buildings they are well above street level but occasionally this is a problem here...I would love to come back to New York and see WTC 1 rising so high now.....must make a plan to get there at least on completion. I have either seen this site as the original WTC or a hole in the ground so it's fantastic to see this progress.

EDIT: old pic

Finally, its growing again!!! :banana: :booze:

Do my eyeballs need recalibrating or are they adding more than two stories of steel this time?

^^ as they reached the "roof" of the base, they errected everytime two floors at the same time, so your eyeballs are totally good working *laugh*.

Old picture, about April 1 is my guess.

super old pic. some people need to pay more attention.

yeah that pic is pretty old had everybody on the last page going nuts

You'd think people would know that skyscrapers don't suddenly shrink like that. ;)

the bank across the street shrunk. So I guest anything could happen lol

the bank across the street shrunk. So I guest anything could happen lol

It's at the 13th floor now.

how many floors a week or month do they complete? is there a target they are trying to hit and after that it should get faster or whats the story?

Arabs want to be investment partners with Port Authority for WTC1.

http://video.foxnews.com/v/4238242/wtc-investor-controversy#/v/4238242/wtc-investor-controversy/?playlist_id=87937

Bugs

Oh god not this shit again. This makes absolutely no difference, just like the mosque. People will again make a mountain out of a mole hill.

Fox news <--- ahhhh, there's your problem.


Nothing to see here, move along.


how many floors a week or month do they complete? is there a target they are trying to hit and after that it should get faster or whats the story?

The goal is a floor every 7 to ten days. They apear to be working out some bugs with the core construction.

Arabs want to be investment partners with Port Authority for WTC1.

http://video.foxnews.com/v/4238242/wtc-investor-controversy#/v/4238242/wtc-investor-controversy/?playlist_id=87937

Bugs

Both the Shard and the Pinnacle, two supertalls currently under construction in London are financed by rich arabs. If it wasn't for their money they probably would not be getting built right now. However, I can understand why arab investment wouldn't go down too well for WTC1

Arabs want to be investment partners with Port Authority for WTC1.

http://video.foxnews.com/v/4238242/wtc-investor-controversy#/v/4238242/wtc-investor-controversy/?playlist_id=87937

Bugs

I'm sure Fox News would love to rename the site, "The World, excluding the Middle-East, Trade Center".

Wait a minute, it's not even a Middle-Eastern company that wants to partner with the Port Authority, it's an American company which has some investors who are from the Middle-East. And these investors aren't even from any Middle-Eastern country involved in any way with 9/11 (like Afghanistan). They're from the freaking United Arab Emirates! The most Westernized and America-friendly country in the Middle-East.

Terrorists!

I'm sure Fox News would love to rename the site, "The World, excluding the Middle-East, Trade Center".

LOL... classic!!:lol:

Of course Faux News ignores facts like the countries the investors are from are US allies that have bought hundreds of millions of dollars worth of weapons systems from the USA. Such facts just get in the way.

Finally...Steel delivery down at the site...:)

Both the Shard and the Pinnacle, two supertalls currently under construction in London are financed by rich arabs. If it wasn't for their money they probably would not be getting built right now. However, I can understand why arab investment wouldn't go down too well for WTC1

Exactly, but one mistake there, they are not financed by "rich arabs" but by investment authorities....

New steel going up thanks greenwich boy

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Finally they add new steel

They better complete those 3 or 4 floors they missed TODAY! :bash::bash:

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Great to see some core-action :)

Great to see some core-action :)

yeah the core is rising :) Great

I LOVE THIS SKYSCRAPER!

Finally growing up again; works keep on the way, good shot !

beautiful!..now is getting shape!

do i see a few steel uprights??

Wow, Excellent!!! I love this tower°!!!!

June 15th, 2010

I'm back guys! Been a while, but here are some pictures I took today. Gorgeous weather, plus my birthday is on the 17th, so thought these would be a nice present for me and all of you!

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Steeeel!! :banana:

Great shots! Thanks a lot! (only wishing Happy B-day in a couple of days :D )

Thanks for the pics! With the webcam issues, we need all the contributions we can get.

I really wish RBGZ would get their shit together seeing as their cam is by far the most valuable now.

nice update...great

[QUOTE=NYCD;58706697]June 15th, 2010

I'm back guys! Been a while, but here are some pictures I took today. Gorgeous weather, plus my birthday is on the 17th, so thought these would be a nice present for me and all of you!

Im sure when your next birthday comes, the tower will be much taller :) Happy birthday :cheers:

The procedure is too slow...

So is your comment.

Strength is the most important feature of this building, not speed.

Might be a bit slow but procedure never stops and, on the contrary, it is well scheduled.

looks like it's overtaking the us post building. next stop verizon building. stand clear of the closing doors.

Finally!! nice!!

Kinda looks like a borg cube. For now.....:)

your the second person to say that you've be going throw the pages I see

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/17/nyregion/17subshop.html?ref=nyregion

lol. How many times are they going to report on that Subway?

At least there is a nice pic of the floor decking and a column. Pritty neet trick having it on the 27th floor when the steel is only up to the 26th floor.

Am l to understand that this building will be just about as tall as the CN Tower?
Well,I can hardly wait to see it for myself this summer.
I have been lacking in observation lately.

lol. How many times are they going to report on that Subway?

...the way the article reads, it just opened. I thought it had been there for months.

Just wait and see when it will complete.

...the way the article reads, it just opened. I thought it had been there for months.
Slow news day. The papers have to recycle stories because they have laid off so many reporters. The reporters they have aren't so underpaid and dumb they just look up old stories and rewrite them. In the best case like with this story they even have a new picture. Of course if they get the facts right it would be even better!

Am l to understand that this building will be just about as tall as the CN Tower?
Well,I can hardly wait to see it for myself this summer.
I have been lacking in observation lately.

yes just 12m in it!

BRAND new video about the Subway restaurant at 1WTC, from the Port Authority:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKiqbysNX3M

Wow, it's just like a real Subway!

^^ That's so cool. I did not picture it looking half as good as that.

The people that work there must have the most unusual commute of any Subway in the world! I wonder if they need a security clearance? Probably similar to the backgroud checks that people need who work behind airport security.

I can picture the job interview..."Would you be afraid of heights? Can you work in a noisy environment?":lol:

June 17th, 2010

My Birthday!!!!! :D Sorry the pics are blurry, I just took them quick on my way to party with friends. ;)

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The people that work there must have the most unusual commute of any Subway in the world! I wonder if they need a security clearance? Probably similar to the background checks that people need who work behind airport security.

I can picture the job interview..."Would you be afraid of heights? Can you work in a noisy environment?":lol:

They underwent a background check, more rigorous than a NTSB check. Notice the security ID card hanging around there necks.

Kinda looks like a borg cube. For now.....:)

A Borg cube is not as strong.:)

Hope your Birthday was a happy one NYCD, I'll take a little motion blur any day.

Oh yeah ! Nice progress on the new levels ! Updates and constributions are highly appreciated, thank you so much !

first NYC visit for me in two years starting on Thurs 24th. I shall be brunching at Bubbys and having a mooch around. Liking the steady progress.

^^ steady?? it hasn't moved for a month until just recently.........

yeah but at least you can see some progress now that they are adding the steel bars to make another floor

Man, it doesn't look like they added any new steel today. I wonder why. They usually work on Saturdays. It's also not like it rained or anything.

Fatherday BBQ and Yankees vs Mets LOL wouldnt that be great.

Sal Schiano, WNY

june, 19th


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EDIT: a cool shot...

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what are getting ready to do

http://www.lowermanhattan.info/construction/project_updates/freedom_tower_26204.aspx

The following information was last updated on June 18, 2010.

* Steel and concrete installation (multiple cranes on site). Tower steel is now at floor 28
* Both the south and north cores are now being erected as the structure rises
* "Cocoon" safety system now in place around upper perimeter, to rise with structure
* Final concrete installation on the sub-grade structure, including the surrounding plaza
* Utility installation and tie-ins
* Crews are coordinating substructure construction while maintaining PATH service

what are getting ready to do

The white structure is the west side construction hoist (elevator) tower.

The newly landscaped street is beautiful.

NYGUY
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/125702065/large.jpg

CZhang
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4013/4719573450_5b535a9aac_b.jpg

^^ love that last pic, looks like a fair bit of new steel has been added!!!

The AP did a video about the Sandwich shop.....i found it interesting...

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it does seem that way I wonder how many feet that ship is.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3463/4563861281_0c733d0e25_b.jpg

^^ nice pic, but quite old. ;)

^^ seem some guys hungry :eat: , i was kidding :lol:

it does seem that way I wonder how many feet that ship is.

952'. 110,000 tons.

Looks like they added new steel in the most recent pic

We want our Towers back!

it almost looks like a goddamn tombstone, a huge one to be exact......... We want the Twin Towers Back, not a building that looks like a tombstone

I love the Twin Towers, but they definitely would look more like a tombstone than 1WTC, the Freedom Tower. Tombstones are grey, rectangular blocks. The Twin Towers were grey, rectangular blocks. The Freedom Tower is in the shape of an upside down and elongated diamond with a spire on top, nothing like the shape of a tombstone. It's also not grey like a tombstone or the Twin Towers. It'll be like the color of the new 7WTC, constantly changing with the sunlight but generally a kinda bluish color.

By Morrongiello, 6-21-10.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1182/4722110818_b042d2d518_b.jpg

http://www.flickr.com/photos/morrongiello/

Yay for progress! :happy:
I'd really love to see this guy rise on at least a semi-continuous basis for a while.

the steel has reached 300ft!
http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/4647/freedomjune22.jpg

:omg: Go World Trade center!!!!

952'. 110,000 tons.
Thank that's as tall as the tallest building in lower manhattan almost a supertall LOL.
We want our Towers back!
Speak for yourself buddy where u from anyway

it almost looks like a goddamn tombstone, a huge one to be exact......... We want the Twin Towers Back, not a building that looks like a tombstone is that so let me guest there rebuilding in Jersey is that what your going to say next

We want our Towers back!

And I thought we could go 10 pages without a TT2 fanboy.... Just ignore him guys.

Also that's a great graph. Nice that progress is happening fast again.