Ok, I'm a huge dork and extremely bored while at work. So I started a seriously geeky project to occupy some of my time.

For those of you who don't know, the Freedom Tower construction site placed a high-res webcam that saves an image every 15 minutes:
http://www.earthcam.net/users2/interface.php?id=445&projectid=202&clientid=158
I decided to grab the 12:00 noon screenshot every day for the next 5 years or so. Then I'll edit them together in a time lapse movie and put it up on YouTube or something.


Here is the project so far:
You Tube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKuIfpDW6AQ)
IKuIfpDW6AQ

High Res Version:
Right-click to Save As (http://www.warclan.net/Downloads/Freedom_Tower.wmv)

I need to find some suitable music so I'm open to any suggestions. I will update the video every few days.


what the heck was this? :nuts:

Nothing got done. All I saw was earth being moved around.

Man, these guys building the Freedom Tower are even slower than Pakistan's notorious construction time. :lol:

what the heck was this? :nuts:

All I saw was earth being moved around.

the biggest change was the construction of the 2nd crane :lol:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v109/nyctowers/2007/Picture058.jpg

^ True, and thanks for the picture!

Is it just me... or are they in fact not doing anything?:sly: I've been following this thread since it started, and watching the webcam since I got the address... and the only thing that's really happened after the first few beams and two cranes has been... well... nothing what-so-ever! I don't understand what the problem is:? It blows my mind to think that after almost 6 years of planning and proposals, once work has started... it just stops:evil:

So does anyone have any explaination as to why this is? I know there has been funding issues, but at this rate it's going to take 50 years to actually complete, while the Chicago Spire has raced into approval and is mere weeks away from groundbreaking... I really hope that this project [WTC] will really get back on track soon! As much as I love Chicago and the Chicago Spire, I would really like to see NY and its Freedom Tower take #1 before Chicago gets there's done... but who knows...:ohno:

Since it started up again, it has been going as fast as any skyscraper would it's size...

It's looking good, though it's taken them quite some time to get in motion.

Since it started up again, it has been going as fast as any skyscraper would it's size...

:( Grass grows faster... by the way... I like your avatar... great pic! I always wanted to visit NY + the WTC... but allas:no:

Also, what's that building in the top left corner of the picture posted by carlos? The one that looks like it's covered in plywood? :?

Deutsche Bank? I thinik

Unlike grass, 1WTC will be growing 14 feet a week in about a year; if you don't believe me, [insert random "Tourettes Guy" saying here].

I hope you're right... ... ... for your sake :devil: :moods: :guns1::nuts:

:( Grass grows faster... by the way... I like your avatar... great pic! I always wanted to visit NY + the WTC... but allas:no:

Also, what's that building in the top left corner of the picture posted by carlos? The one that looks like it's covered in plywood? :?
That's the former Deutsche Bank. It took a big chunk of 2WTC's steel in its side and is only now being deconstructed.

It took a looooooong time for the insurance settlement to come through with the two sides arguing ad-nauseum about whether or not it was repairable. The decision to write it off as being uneconomical to repair was made a couple of years ago and it became another victim of the 2001-09-11 attack. IIRC, the planned new 5 WTC tower will replace it.

Mike

OOOOOH so they are tearing it down... very neatly... I thought that it was awfully strange for that amount of "casing" to be on a building being built:yes:

New progress?

http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/4623/1430bp0.jpg

Yes, it's the new temporary transit hub.

My god are they even doing anything at the site?? Start building already.

^^ man why are they so slow?

this is getting annoying

For the 1,275th f***ing time, it's going as fast as any skyscraper would it's size. You'll see lots of action with steel and concrete in only a few months.

Really? seems like they are not doing ANYTHING they could have put up the other cranes already and start going up. How long did it take for them to start going up for the old wtc? Alot of the massive skyscrapers in China do not take this long.

Really? seems like they are not doing ANYTHING they could have put up the other cranes already and start going up. How long did it take for them to start going up for the old wtc? Alot of the massive skyscrapers in China do not take this long.

Well they want to make this building secure as possible so they are going to build it well and not rush it. Also u say that buildings in china do not take this long. The Shanghai World Financial Centre started construction in 1997 now its 2007 and its still not complete. So obviously they do!

Alot not all. Usually when they have cranes set like we see in all these pics of wtc1 for the past months they start going up, but its been like this for a year for wtc1.

Well they want to make this building secure as possible so they are going to build it well and not rush it. Also u say that buildings in china do not take this long. The Shanghai World Financial Centre started construction in 1997 now its 2007 and its still not complete. So obviously they do!

It's probably not the best idea to compare this building to one that was put on hold for six years :cheers:

It took 4 years to complete the original wtc. "In 1970, construction was completed on One World Trade Center" And groundbreaking was 1966.
Freedom tower is "Groundbreaking April 27, 2006
Estimated completion 2009 "
But it seems to be going way to slow to be completed that fast.

^^ how are they gonna get this done by 2009?

half of 2007 is already gone.....

Thats what im saying, they are going slow as hell, in like 2 months they added a crane wow big deal. Though they could be done tons of other things but i dont see them in the pics.

Really? seems like they are not doing ANYTHING they could have put up the other cranes already and start going up. How long did it take for them to start going up for the old wtc? Alot of the massive skyscrapers in China do not take this long.

For someone who lives in this country it depresses me that you would compare the construction rate of China with the United States considering that in China they work day night and weekends.

For someone who lives in this country it depresses me that you would compare the construction rate of China with the United States considering that in China they work day night and weekends.

:lol:

Uhhh, you obviously don't realize that many construction projects in the U.S. work 3 shifts 24/7

I'm not talking about completion rate. I could care less how long it takes to get topped out once it starts going up. I am just complaining that they are not doing anything. The base should be rising by now. Thats all i want to see is the base. There are also plenty of example of AMERICAN skyscrapers that are faster than this one.

Yes, it's the new temporary transit hub.

What do you mean the new temporary transit hub. Theres the one thats been there since 2003 and the next one will be the new permanent one, right.. Why would they build another temporary one?

The old temporary one is being deconstructed to make room for the WTC Transit Hub.

I'm not talking about completion rate. I could care less how long it takes to get topped out once it starts going up. I am just complaining that they are not doing anything. The base should be rising by now. Thats all i want to see is the base. There are also plenty of example of AMERICAN skyscrapers that are faster than this one.

The problem is your basing your observation on a supposed megapixel (more like .7) camera that is somewhere around 700-1500 feet away to the actual construction height. You ain't going to see 'anything' from something from that far away at that definition.

Might as well 'suspend' this thread until something new happens. All of the 'updates' have nothing new.

so what is the reason for the delay?

the rubble was cleared years ago and the building approved years ago

then why isn't anything getting done?

I think the slow rat may have to do with the construction of the slurry wall and the earth around the site

Hmmm...maybe its those stairs that they dont want to move or something?! that excuse could buy them at least 4 more years

in all seriousness, I dont think the WTC reconstruction is going to move at a speed we're used to seeing. I think we're lucky enough to be getting such amazing buildings, on such a site; we should just accept the rate of speed.

Sorry to all you guys who take time and post pictures of the site its just i get frustrated that its been so long and basically no progress. But keep posting i will keep my hopes up :)

Might as well 'suspend' this thread until something new happens. All of the 'updates' have nothing new.

:ohno: The general public's expectation of what they should see and when they should see it is based on piffle. If all people are going to do is ask "Why is nothing happening?" they should not post. This is the largest office complex ever and the people in charge will make sure this is the best cluster in the world. Yes, it was put on hold for a year, but it's u/c right now, whether you can see that or not. And I'm tired of people saying ignorant stuff like, "It has been over 6 years and nothing is there." An insane amount of work has taken place since then. If it's not enough for you and if people can't say anything positive, don't say anything at all because this is not just some ordinary project; emotional connections to what's taking place are intense.

I think the slow rat may have to do with the construction of the slurry wall and the earth around the site

The slurry wall has nothing to do with 1WTC; it's for the other supertalls and its ahead of schedule.

New progress?

http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/4623/1430bp0.jpg
Also, even though that is the top of the 1/9 subway tunnels, how long before Greenwich St is expected to open through the site?

Mike

*Pataki folk: "Let's go ahead and put up these steel columns for Dec. 16th..."

*Structural engineers/building planners: "Why in the blue f*&% would we put these things up now?"

*Pataki folk: "Just put them up already. They want to see progress, we'll woo them with our steel beams. That outta shut 'em up for a few months. Now carry on with digging your holes and spreading dirt for the next 6 months."
:nuts:

*Pataki folk: "Let's go ahead and put up these steel columns for Dec. 16th..."

*Structural engineers/building planners: "Why in the blue f*&% would we put these things up now?"

*Pataki folk: "Just put them up already. They want to see progress, we'll woo them with our steel beams. That outta shut 'em up for a few months. Now carry on with digging your holes and spreading dirt for the next 6 months."
:nuts:

:lol: :lol: :lol:

edit:

*union ironworker delegate: Just make yourself look busy or your fired.

*Pataki folk: "Let's go ahead and put up these steel columns for Dec. 16th..."

*Structural engineers/building planners: "Why in the blue f*&% would we put these things up now?"

*Pataki folk: "Just put them up already. They want to see progress, we'll woo them with our steel beams. That outta shut 'em up for a few months. Now carry on with digging your holes and spreading dirt for the next 6 months."
:nuts:

Sad, but im convinced its true.

With this many people asking the question ...What is the holdup?, One of us should know someone working at the WTC site that can provide answers. My only thought as a General Contractor is that changes were submitted with anticipation of approval by now...which would be enough reason to slap up 2 tower cranes. However, as I understand, these cranes have yet to be utilized.

^^ how are they gonna get this done by 2009?

half of 2007 is already gone.....

I would say 2010

Ignore 1WTC for now and focus on the new Goldman Sachs tower rising across the street. That should help ease your all's frustration.

Ebola You Are Wasting Your Words On These Ignorant People. I Wrote The Below Message On This Board Almost A Month Ago And People Were Still Asking Why It's Taking So Long:

Read Below

Are you kidding? Time wasting? Just to do a little history refresher , a 'small' attack occured at this site not 50 years ago, not 20 years ago not even 10 years ago. It's been 6 1/2 years! For gosh sakes they were still finding body parts in the area as of late 2006! You could make the argument that family members had made that it really is a graveyard and nothing should be built there.
On top of all that the Deutsche Bank building , a pretty significant sized building, still has to be torn down.

How can anyone not understand how different this site is from any other building site there ever was and that there ever will be in the U.S.?

Can't understand why everyone in this forum is so impatient with the building of the Freedom Tower and The WTC site in general.

Can't you understand that NYC is unlike any other city and this project is unlike any other project EVER.

You cannot begin to understand the amount of infrastructure that is being built into the foundation for this building, included is multiple subway lines.

They needs to do something with the barrier or it will become the nation's number one to commit sucuide after Golden Gates Bridge. :ohno:

EDIT: I was refering to the renderings that was posted here just before it got deleted. MOD, you can delete my post if you want to.

Thats what im saying, they are going slow as hell, in like 2 months they added a crane wow big deal. Though they could be done tons of other things but i dont see them in the pics.

i love how the empire state building can be finished within a year, but... you see where i'm going with this.

^^^ Its still the record for the fastest built supertall.

Ebola You Are Wasting Your Words On These Ignorant People. I Wrote The Below Message On This Board Almost A Month Ago And People Were Still Asking Why It's Taking So Long:

Read Below

Are you kidding? Time wasting? Just to do a little history refresher , a 'small' attack occured at this site not 50 years ago, not 20 years ago not even 10 years ago. It's been 6 1/2 years! For gosh sakes they were still finding body parts in the area as of late 2006! You could make the argument that family members had made that it really is a graveyard and nothing should be built there.
On top of all that the Deutsche Bank building , a pretty significant sized building, still has to be torn down.

How can anyone not understand how different this site is from any other building site there ever was and that there ever will be in the U.S.?

Can't understand why everyone in this forum is so impatient with the building of the Freedom Tower and The WTC site in general.

Can't you understand that NYC is unlike any other city and this project is unlike any other project EVER.

You cannot begin to understand the amount of infrastructure that is being built into the foundation for this building, included is multiple subway lines.


what's ignorant is green-lighting a ridiculous building plan to the point of laying a corner stone 3 years ago, only to have it scrapped because, frankly, it sucked. That's a whole lot of politikin', wasted time, and money. If they'd taken the proper measures, the right checks/balances, maybe we'd all be enjoying a cocktail at happy hour this afternoon on top of the Freedom Tower. Instead, we're where we should have been 3 years ago.

I know I know 'this forum is only about positive dialogue about current construction of the FT'----yea yea yea, you can only talk so much about that new cluster of rebar that one dude just assembled the other day. Or how about that north tower footprint where they've been moving piles of dirt for 2 months.

things are underway, but there's nothing wrong with venting....

For those who are complaining about the 1WTC construction taking so long and that it is not rising I have made a small collage for you to observe.

1. Here is the core on June 1st, 3 weeks ago
http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/9467/july1stwtccl2.th.jpg (http://img413.imageshack.us/my.php?image=july1stwtccl2.jpg)

2. Here is the most recent shot of the core
http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/3317/july22ndwtcqm4.th.jpg (http://img413.imageshack.us/my.php?image=july22ndwtcqm4.jpg)

For those of you who can't see the progress, it is clear to me that the core is slightly rising. Just compare the crane heights in the first and second picture. You will see that the crane on the right has significantly risen and that some kind of formwork has been constructed under the cranes. Also just to the foreground of the crane significant work has been done to that part of the core.

Clearly in ramvid01's pictures you can definetly see some good progress in the hole.

indeed we have some progress not much but it works :)

i love how the empire state building can be finished within a year, but... you see where i'm going with this.

right.

good comparison ramvid1, thx for that. now i also can see a progress. and i've the feeling we'll see only 2 tower cranes and not 4

Anywho, even though it doesn't look like much, it's good to see progress at the site.

good comparison ramvid1, thx for that. now i also can see a progress. and i've the feeling we'll see only 2 tower cranes and not 4

There will be 4 tower cranes.

http://www.nysun.com/article/57033
Construction Costs Could Rise as Mega-Projects Increase Demand

By ELIOT BROWN
Special to the Sun
June 21, 2007

http://www.nysun.com/pics/57033_main_large.jpg
Konrad Fiedler

Almost 50 million square feet of publicly administered development are scheduled to start in the next few years, increasing the demand, and the cost of building, materials. Above, the Freedom Tower site.

Developers could see construction costs rise at an even faster rate in coming years, as the city's megaprojects substantially increase demand on a sector already flooded with work, industry officials say.

With prices escalating for building materials, this could test the strength of the historic construction boom, which has persevered despite the rising expenses.

"The demand is going to get much greater, and we have to do a lot of work to do everything we possibly can to moderate the effects of increasing levels of construction," Deputy Mayor Daniel Doctoroff said yesterday. "Everywhere, we feel the impact of rising construction costs — that's the big public projects, it's the private sector projects."

Spending on construction has reached all-time highs for the past three years — the New York Building Congress estimates that spending exceeded $24 billion in 2006 — even though the bulk of the city- and state-administered large-scale projects conceived in the past decade have yet to begin, most of which are scheduled to start in the next two to three years.

Between the World Trade Center, Moynihan Station, Atlantic Yards, the Hudson rail yards, and Willets Point in Queens, almost 50 million square feet of publicly administered development are scheduled to start in the next few years — the equivalent of about 20 Empire State Buildings going up at the same time. Add to that the more than $12 billion projected for the no. 7 line subway extension, the first phase of the Second Avenue subway, and the Trans-Hudson Express project for a new NJ Transit tunnel to Pennsylvania Station, and the flurry of activity is sure to drive up the need for construction workers and materials, likely causing prices to jump.

"As you have all this work going on, there's an increased economic pressure on labor," the assistant executive director of the General Building Contractors of New York State, Joseph Hogan, said. Wages of unionized construction workers tend to be steady for years at a time due to bargaining agreements, though Mr. Hogan said the trend in wages will surely be sent upward by the city's big projects in coming years.

The industry is already seeing a shortage of project managers, a problem that will be exacerbated in coming years, according to the president of the Building Trades Employers Association, Louis Coletti. "You can't manufacture a project manager overnight," he said.

The spike in development could send local prices for construction materials such as concrete up as well, the chief economist at the Associated General Contractors of America, Kenneth Simonson, said.

Already, developers and public agencies have been socked with soaring expenses for construction, as demand from rapidly expanding markets in India and China has caused skyrocketing prices of materials such as copper.

Total construction costs have gone up by as much as 1% a month, builders say, pushing developers to move briskly and forcing public agencies to scale back plans for new buildings.

"Every month-delay that we have, we estimate that we have a $9.5 million escalation hit," the chief of administration for the $1.8 billion United Nations Capital Master Plan renovation project, Vivian van de Perre, said.

For private developers, construction officials say, project price tags are sent up even further by the city's rapidly rising land values, which, like raw material costs, show no sign of slowing their growth.

With a mind to future price hikes, a spokesman for the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, Steven Coleman, said the agency has already handed out about $1 billion in contracts for the $2.8 billion Freedom Tower.

"We're trying to award contracts as early as we can," Mr. Coleman said.

While the towers at the World Trade Center site are generally on budget, plans for the Santiago Calatrava-designed PATH transit hub are estimated to cost as much as $1 billion more than the $2.2 billion planned for the facility, and the Frank Gehry-designed Performing Arts Center has been repeatedly scaled back as its price tag has climbed hundreds of millions over budget.

All of these megaprojects are going to put NYC to the test. I'm sure this megaproject will get done without problems. The amount of construction on Manhattan Island will be more than anywhere else ever in American history. This boom will bring many modern supertalls to NY. Let's hope Foster gets involved.

I like this tower, one of the best design I've ever seen, I can't wait!

Hope it will rise fast.

All of these megaprojects are going to put NYC to the test. I'm sure this megaproject will get done without problems. The amount of construction on Manhattan Island will be more than anywhere else ever in American history. This boom will bring many modern supertalls to NY. Let's hope Foster gets involved.

They will all eventually be built, but we will probably see this building finished in 2015 at the rate which it's going up. Lets just hope that there are other projects out there which are equally as good and will rise at a faster rate.

i'm 90% sure that once foundations work is done, it'll rise just as fast as any other building of it's magnitude

i've the feeling the webcam has a problem again......it is 16:15 now in NY and the webcam show me a dark pic ^^

The Freedom Tower Construction Video
640x480 (http://www.warclan.net/Downloads/Freedom_Tower.wmv)


Updated through 6/25

its taking too long

Foundations take time. If this is too much to handle, just wait about 6 months before you visit the thread again. When you return you'll definately see progress being made. :lol:

Foundations take time. If this is too much to handle, just wait about 6 months before you visit the thread again. When you return you'll definately see progress being made. :lol:

Why would a foundation take a while? It's not like they have to hold 500 million pounds or anything. Oh wait.....

Hey progress is progress.

Although its little slow even compared to other skycrapers in USA, I think people are expecting BD/SWFC-type of construction with 1 floor/3 days.

But yeah, its still gonna be quite a good bit till we actually see the core go above street level.

I'll be the first person on floor 102. I can't wait to see how her top is going to light up; it will look cooler than the Empire State Building at night for sure.

http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/60/ft444pi4.jpg
And that's the older version. Looks amazing.

I was actually glad when the webcam was down. In that brief period of absence, there was a glimmer of clarity. I thought, 'how in the world are you going to measure progress of such a beast tower by checking that friggin' camera every other hour?' I hoped it would be down for at least a month. Now that it's back up, I see that nothing has changed today. I'm back in my old mindset. Damn EarthCam.

^^ well if you don't like the earthcam or the progress on the FT stop watching the cam than. no one is forcing you to look.
personally I love the earthcam and it would be pitty if it would be offline again, esspecially during my summerholliday.

I'll be the first person on floor 102.

Just curious.....how do you plan to accomplish this?

^^ well if you don't like the earthcam or the progress on the FT stop watching the cam than. no one is forcing you to look.
personally I love the earthcam and it would be pitty if it would be offline again, esspecially during my summerholliday.


i didn't say anyone was forcing me to, I admitted I am an addict--sounds like you are too. The first step is admitting you have a problem.

^^ yeah I'm an addict too :lol: Sometimes I skip a few days but mostly I'm watching it every 15 minutes.
The construction of the tower seems to go slowly as everything happens below grade, but remember that they've almost finnished the foundation. which happened at a normal speed. most foundation take about a year and become boring too watch very soon. personally I think the core will start to rise by the end of next month.

http://img336.imageshack.us/img336/8477/view1ry6.jpg

A-M-A-Z-I-N-G

Now, I understand the skyline.

The webcam at 13:15 shows a very long truck carrying what seems to be more beams.

^^ nope its not a beam. it just the steel casing of one of the piles

i've the feeling the webcam has a problem again......it is 16:15 now in NY and the webcam show me a dark pic ^^

I noticed the same thing when looking at it at around 3 PM yesterday with the WTC lit up as if it was night when it really wasn't.

^^ nope its not a beam. it just the steel casing of one of the piles
Just another false alarm as usual.

I really think things will start picking up here very soon.

I don’t think people understand the size and iconic magnitude of this building and project. This is a skyscraper that makes the Empire State Building look small. There are not a lot of buildings like that. It’s truly the tallest office building in the world, a tribute to NY’s dominance in the world. In a few years, the downtown skyline will be untouchable, on the same level as the midtown skyline with all of its mega-projects. All of this is going to look so astonishing and incredible futuristic when it’s done. As of today, we’re only a few months, if not weeks, away from seeing this building come to life, and only a few months away from the conception of the other supertalls.

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/404/ft555qw1.jpg

...It’s truly the tallest office building in the world...


uhhhh

There's no taller office building. Everything else is mixed/res/condo/hotel. 1WTC is classified as office; look it up if you don't believe me.

I'll be the first person on floor 102.

Cool it, Mr. Petit.
:lol:

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g15/SexyToad/iioh18.jpg

Okay, here's one for the folks at home. If you're confused by what you're seeing at Earthcam (http://www.earthcam.net/users2/interface.php?i=0&id=445&projectid=202&clientid=158), as I was at first, here's an overlay of what will be there, sans the "Cultural Center" if I'm correct. Keep in mind that the constuction is 70 feet below ground level, which accounts for the positioning of the FT "shadow." (the red dots are points of alignment for perspective, which was a bitch to do, btw)

Click the image for the full size (790kb)
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g15/SexyToad/Ground_Zero_overlayB_2007-06-26.jpg (http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g15/SexyToad/Ground_Zero_overlay_2007-06-26.jpg?t=1182914725)

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g15/SexyToad/iioh18.jpg

Wow! That's utterly amazing. Maybe the tower cranes aren't really in the core of the skyscraper, but I'm not sure. That thing where the arts center should be is the new temp transit hub.

Wow! That's utterly amazing. Maybe the tower cranes aren't really in the core of the skyscraper, but I'm not sure. That thing where the arts center should be is the new temp transit hub.

It is in the core. The Freedom tower footprint goes as east as the end of the verizon building.

Okay, here's one for the folks at home. If you're confused by what you're seeing at Earthcam (http://www.earthcam.net/users2/interface.php?i=0&id=445&projectid=202&clientid=158), as I was at first, here's an overlay of what will be there, sans the "Cultural Center" if I'm correct. Keep in mind that the constuction is 70 feet below ground level, which accounts for the positioning of the FT "shadow." (the red dots are points of alignment for perspective, which was a bitch to do, btw)

Click the image for the full size (790kb)
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g15/SexyToad/Ground_Zero_overlayB_2007-06-26.jpg (http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g15/SexyToad/Ground_Zero_overlay_2007-06-26.jpg?t=1182914725)

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g15/SexyToad/iioh18.jpg
WOw that's cool..

good pic, that show's all very good

I know many of you will call me a pessimist or make personal attacks on me for saying, but we shouldn't always trust timetables when it comes to projects, especially when they don't predict what could happen in the future (ie another delay on the WTC site).

is the tower still gonna have beams of light at the top of the spire at night?

is the tower still gonna have beams of light at the top of the spire at night?

Yes, and the spire will be able to change colors.

great to see cranes finally up on site, now just the rising

great to see cranes finally up on site, now just the rising

Yeah, but thats gonna take at least another month or two:ohno:

More steel is on the way.

More steel is on the way.

How much longer?

If I recall correctly, they want to finish the sub-area steel before summer's end, so it's very likely that we should see some more beams soon. I bet they have ordered steel for the entire tower by now.

More steel is on the way.

great to hear that, i'm really excited :)

great to see cranes finally up on site, now just the rising

That won't happen for at least another, that is if nothing goes wrong. :naughty:

I just found out that 1WTC has a spire that's an antenna; they both coincide. It's an antenna, but it counts as a part of the total height because there's a spire around it, which is a rare thing to see, so the CTB will accept this building as the world's tallest office building. The crown on top of the skyscraper reaches over 1,400' and contains antennas and other stuff. They need an observation deck there too.
http://images.usatoday.com/news/_photos/2006/06/29/freedom-tower-1.jpg

June 28, 2007

clearing continues...:yes:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v109/nyctowers/2007/CIMG2251.jpg




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What's with the random stairs Carlos? Hot avatar btw! Almost as hot as skyscrapers :) J/K HOTTER!

Another turning point in American history. They take the towers down, we build them right back up.

What's with the random stairs Carlos? Hot avatar btw! Almost as hot as skyscrapers :) J/K HOTTER!

i havn't been following it that closely, but i think they're deconstructing the temporary path station they build after 9/11 ??? i think

I remember meeting the architect of this building, Mr. Libeskind, a few weeks ago at the opening of the ROM Crystal extension. I wished him luck with this building. He seems like an interesting guy.

wow, great pics carlos :okay:

I just found out that 1WTC has a spire that's an antenna; they both coincide. It's an antenna, but it counts as a part of the total height because there's a spire around it, which is a rare thing to see, so the CTB will accept this building as the world's tallest office building. The crown on top of the skyscraper reaches over 1,400' and contains antennas and other stuff. They need an observation deck there too.
http://images.usatoday.com/news/_photos/2006/06/29/freedom-tower-1.jpg


When I am King if the World spires won't count no matter what they consist of. IMO the height of the "building" stops at the roof. If they want to make money by putting a fancy antenna on top great, but it shoud not count for any height records.

I have spoken, LOL.....

wow, great pics carlos :okay:

Thanks..I will return to the site again next week!


taken thru that stupid mesh net...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v109/nyctowers/2007/CIMG2260.jpg

Has that surfaces Ground Zero ???

When I am King if the World spires won't count no matter what they consist of. IMO the height of the "building" stops at the roof. If they want to make money by putting a fancy antenna on top great, but it shoud not count for any height records.

I have spoken, LOL.....

But what about buildings like Chrysler, American International Building & The Trump Building. Doesn´t the spire/flagpole/whatever count?

Not when I am in charge LOL. Chrysler for example would have to be referred to as a building of X height with a spire of X height on top.

You know that my tounge is planted firmly in my cheek with this. I just think it is really silly to look at Freedom tower and seriously say this bulding will be 1776 ft high.

Wonderful news!!! I would say congrats NYC...but instead I'll say congrats USA!

It seems the camera has been focused on the footprint of 1WTC, providing a very high-quality shot of the construction area of the memorial; a part of me wants it to stay focused there for a few weeks so ignorant people can't complain about seeing nothing new where the core's going up.
Edit: Too bad, the cam is back to normal now.

Has that surfaces Ground Zero ???

uhhh.......WHAT?

This is kind of a dumb question, but why has the floor count been changed from 82 to 108?

I like everything about this tower except for that donut thing on the top of it. It doesn't go with the rest of the building at all. I thought I read somewhere a while back that they were re-designing it but haven't heard anything since. It's really fugly.

This is kind of a dumb question, but why has the floor count been changed from 82 to 108?
82 was for the older version of the building.

Sublevels - Transportation
Ground Floor - Main Lobby
1st-19th Floors (Base) - Podium (mostly mech space except for lobby)
20th-63rd Floors - Offices
64th Floor - Sky lobby
65th - 88th Floors - Offices
89th and 90th Floors - Transmission equipment
91st - 100th Floors - Mechanical
100th - 101st Floors - Restaurant
102nd Floor - Observation deck :cheers:
103rd - 108th Floors - Mechanical/Broadcasting

108 is a great number of floors for that tower :)

I am still waiting for a source that claims that it's 100 floors b/c another of skyscraper database sites say that it's 82 floors.

Why not take a look at the "Freedom Tower Fact Sheet" from the PANYNJ website?


"Building Features: A public observation deck on the 102nd floor, a skyline restaurant on the
100th and..."

Hopefully there's a very good reason for the slow progress. As I understood it, they wanted to way overbuild the podium base so it can withstand a street level bomb attack.

Hopefully there's a very good reason for the slow progress. As I understood it, they wanted to way overbuild the podium base so it can withstand a street level bomb attack.

I think thats a very logical explanation.

Can anyone explain to me, explain what the rebars that are being installed are for

Why not take a look at the "Freedom Tower Fact Sheet" from the PANYNJ website?


"Building Features: A public observation deck on the 102nd floor, a skyline restaurant on the
100th and..."

Emporis, which is one of most reliable skyscraper websites doesn't mention this at all.

Hopefully there's a very good reason for the slow progress. As I understood it, they wanted to way overbuild the podium base so it can withstand a street level bomb attack.
There is a better idea and that it to not place roads through it rather than give it an ugly base.

Emporis, which is one of most reliable skyscraper websites doesn't mention this at all.

There is a lot of information on Emporis that is never listed and some of the information listed is very outdated. I am most confident with Emporis, however I know they are not entirely accurate...

Emporis hasn't been updated in who knows how long. The information from the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey obviously isn't false and is only few months old.

http://www.panynj.gov/pdf/Fact_Sheet_for_Web.pdf


If you don't believe the "FT Fact Sheet," made by the PANYNJ, I don't know what to say.

psst it's talb.. he's a ft hater and take whatever he says with a grain of salt :)

^Oh no :lol:.

If someone blinds their eyes to information put out by PANYNJ, there really is nothing you can say Ebola. All you can do is nod and move on.:laugh:

108 floors is the final count? They should have gone to 111 just to pass the previous WTC towers...

More concrete trucks on the site:)

yeah, great to hear that :)

yeah, great to hear that :)

What do you think they are doing now?

Shouldn't the foundation be almost complete?

not sure, the problem is from the webcam we can't see much...only big things. so i don't know what they're actually do, but concrete trucks are indeed a good sign :) )

^Oh no :lol:.

If someone blinds their eyes to information put out by PANYNJ, there really is nothing you can say Ebola. All you can do is nod and move on.:laugh:

While they may be placed on an elevator, they will not count as actual floors. It is most likely this will be what the observation tower of the Harbor Centre is in Vancouver. BTW, that has its own seperate elevator from the rest of that hotel. Also, those floors don't count anyway since they are not occupied, just like how 2 WTC was 6 ft shorter for having the observation floors even though it was same height as 1 WTC structually. Therefore, the FT is 82 floors with only 69 being occupied.

With that logic, 7WTC would only be 44 or 42 floors tall, but it isn't. I'm quite happy you have no voice in how they decided what the official numbers would be. (And it's actually more than 82 and 69 floors that will be used all the time because you didn't count the observation deck and other floors that aren't office floors.)

http://static.flickr.com/111/316259469_528d1aa02c_o.jpg

Wow, that's the best render I've seen of the new WTC towers!

OMG

more WTC remains have been found again!!!!
per WNBC news.... 07/03/07

the search is gonna be indefinite now!!!!! searches will be conducted once again !!!!

the construction scheduled they said will not be altered....:ohno:

hi, im making this building for sim city 4 (for more info, visit simtropolis.com). i was wondering if anyone had some pics of the spire.

So 3WTC is around 1,300+ feet tall now? That thing on the top of that rendering looks like a spire. I hear there has been a lot of design changes anyway. But that rendering is not right, I think. (The 3WTC concept did have something like 10 spires)

^^ 10 spires? Well, based on the picture there are spires aside from the top roof, so there maybe more on the back that isn;t visible on the render.

Really doesn't matter to me, 4WTC needs to grow 60 ft though.

The old concept elevation I saw of 3WTC last year showed 2 even shoulders which created one setback, each shoulder with short spires, and the 4 100-foot ones on the top like now.

hi, im making this building for sim city 4 (for more info, visit simtropolis.com). i was wondering if anyone had some pics of the spire.

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http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/66811562/original.jpghttp://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/66811565/original.jpg

And some others:
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http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/66458472/original.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/66458468/original.jpg

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Wow.. The best render so far..

in the last few days i could see much progress on the FT site

Wow, what's with all the spires on 3WTC

today is the third anniversary of the laying of the cornerstone for the freedom tower. happy 4th from a neighbor to the north.

today is the third anniversary of the laying of the cornerstone for the freedom tower. happy 4th from a neighbor to the north.
To the North or u mean the South??

Shit happens. The only element of the old FT that I liked was the sexy diagrid system around her base; it created a strong tube-like structure.

http://www.projectrebirth.org/img/FT_diagrid.jpg

To the North or u mean the South??
lol

Looks like things are finally coming along on the site. Maybe it will start rising soon.:)

There is a better idea and that it to not place roads through it rather than give it an ugly base.

Well they sounded very intent on making Greenwich street extend through the site, pretty much since the beginning.

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They will soon release a new render of the WTC site which should include minor adjustments to the towers and the addition of tower 5.

^^ so the freedom tower wont be 1776 feet?

it will

I thought the tower between freedom tower and WTC 2 was tower 5

1WTC is a beautiful building and will be an excellent addition to the NY skyline, WTC2,3,4 & 5 are a wasted opportunity to do something really groundbreaking and spectacular with the remaing plot..... saying that, i'm unsure what i'd have in their place, but then i'm a Nurse and not an Architect.
Looking forwards to seeing the new render, hopefully it will help change my mind a bit.

I thought the tower between freedom tower and WTC 2 was tower 5

that's 7

Well they sounded very intent on making Greenwich street extend through the site, pretty much since the beginning.
The lack of Greenwich St was one of the pretty much universally acknowledged flaws of the original WTC complex. The original 7 WTC was a big-time view 'block' on Greenwich from the north and the new 7 WTC corrected that. The new Tower 7 sits on a smaller footprint, allowing that block of Greenwich St to be restored, but makes up for it in its greater height.

I agree with the restoration of the street through the site.

Mike

Carlos, when you'll take pics next time from the ground zero can u try to take a pic from that angle? something is growing behing the steel girders as i can see on the webcam
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pic is from Juny 24th btw..

They will soon release a new render of the WTC site which should include minor adjustments to the towers and the addition of tower 5.

When is soon and how do you know?

I don't any diference, the haven't advance a lot in the construction.

Average ignorance. I wonder when those new renderings will come out. How'd you hear about them? A news article? I hear "wings" were added to T2 and other stuff like a massive screen in the T3 lobby, plus a lot of other changes.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/2007/07/05/2007-07-05_3_workers_hurt_at_wtc_site_1_in_coma-1.html
3 workers hurt at WTC site; 1 in coma

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Thursday, July 5th 2007, 4:00 AM

Three construction workers have been hurt in Ground Zero accidents in recent months, one so seriously that he remains in a coma, officials overseeing the site say. A 26-year-old man who works for Kiewit/Trevi Icos JV was seriously injured on May 22 when a hose pumping material into a retaining wall broke loose and hit him in the head and on the upper torso, officials said. The worker was still in a coma yesterday, said John McCarthy, spokesman for the Port Authority, which owns the 16-acre World Trade Center site. In addition, a Port Authority employee fell off a ladder on June 25 and hurt his hand while working on the eastern edge of the site, and an ironworker tripped and broke his ankle on June 22 during work on the new transit hub, said Steve Plate, the agency's director of priority capital programs.

The Associated Press

Wow, I can't believe it, Tal. All construction has been permanently halted and it doesn't seem like we'll see anything at all happen for another few years. The workers and managers are all striking, the insurance companies don't plan to pay anything, and the developer has just cancelled his 3 towers. The PA says it will downsize 1WTC to a 40-story office buidling because of fiscal problems.

Wow, I can't believe it, Tal. All construction has been permanently halted and it doesn't seem like we'll see anything at all happen for another few years. The workers and managers are all striking, the insurance companies don't plan to pay anything, and the developer has just cancelled his 3 towers. The PA says it will downsize 1WTC to a 40-story office buidling because of fiscal problems.

Please tel me you are joking:ohno:

Wow, I can't believe it, Tal. All construction has been permanently halted and it doesn't seem like we'll see anything at all happen for another few years. The workers and managers are all striking, the insurance companies don't plan to pay anything, and the developer has just cancelled his 3 towers. The PA says it will downsize 1WTC to a 40-story office buidling because of fiscal problems.

Where did you get that information?? newspaper?
Is it confirmed?

~_~ it's obviously a joke.

Wow, I can't believe it, Tal. All construction has been permanently halted and it doesn't seem like we'll see anything at all happen for another few years. The workers and managers are all striking, the insurance companies don't plan to pay anything, and the developer has just cancelled his 3 towers. The PA says it will downsize 1WTC to a 40-story office buidling because of fiscal problems.

even worse, they're are planning to cancel the FT and the momorial. because of financial problems they're planning to turn the place into a lake. reconstruction of the subway and the path station is expected to start in the summer of 2009. the lake is expected to be finnished in 2011.
:cheers:

The WTC Construction Video Project


High Res Version:
640x480 (http://www.warclan.net/Downloads/Freedom_Tower.wmv)


Updated through 7/6

Yep, we must have been insane to think that a dying nation like America and an ancient city like NY could ever complete pojects of this extreme magnitude. It's obviously time to demolish the slurry walls and let the Hudson River flood the construction site because nothing's going to happen for at least three decades.

This thing will be a damn monster. :cheers:

even worse, they're are planning to cancel the FT and the momorial. because of financial problems they're planning to turn the place into a lake. reconstruction of the subway and the path station is expected to start in the summer of 2009. the lake is expected to be finnished in 2011.
:cheers:
Think it is a joke...
a lake... alright, just put out all machines and fill some water in it and plant some trees..... you better should have created a better hoax...

Where did you get that information?? newspaper?
Is it confirmed?

That article that I posted was from the Associated Press on the Daily News. It doesn't state anything on construction being halted, though it should be for that. Either way, I am just the messenger when it comes to these articles. Anyone who has a problem with those articles should either email the person who wrote or send a letter to the editor rather than take their anger out on me just for placing it here.

Yep, we must have been insane to think that a dying nation like America and an ancient city like NY could ever complete pojects of this extreme magnitude. It's obviously time to demolish the slurry walls and let the Hudson River flood the construction site because nothing's going to happen for at least three decades.

Why such pessimism? New York has done great things in the past to get to where it is today and continues to strive. It can surely continue to do more great things and complete more large projects like this one and the Second Avenue subway line.

AG, It's all sarcasm lol.

Tal, no ones taking their "anger" out on you.

For everyone one else that hasn't figured it out, the talk about everything being halted at the WTC was a joke.:cheers:

That article that I posted was from the Associated Press on the Daily News. It doesn't state anything on construction being halted, though it should be for that. Either way, I am just the messenger when it comes to these articles. Anyone who has a problem with those articles should either email the person who wrote or send a letter to the editor rather than take their anger out on me just for placing it here.

Is it available online?

This thing will be a damn monster. :cheers:

as big as the old Towers.

any whaterver way they want to build the FT. as long as american and the world know tat terrorism is the destroyer of this great wtc tower.

whatever builds on it, doesnt matter, as long as the world builds on this tradegy to become stronger.

their being slow on this one:ohno:

their being slow on this one:ohno:

No the foundation work progresses at a normal speed. When do people start to understand that building a foundation takes time, esspecially in downtown New York on a historic site. To show you the progress I've three pictures for you, one of 1 year ago, one of Oktober last year and one of yesterday.
Last year they started to drill the caisons for the foundation. Nowadays this work is finnished and they even poured the foudation of the tower.

http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/5140/earthcam1vm8.jpg

http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/3677/earthcam3qm5.jpg

http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/3206/earthcam2bw4.jpg

I'll hope that you and the others who are complaining now see that they ARE making progress.
:cheers:

Please don't ask me where I heard of that, but could it be true, that NY decreed a height limit for skyscrapers in New York after 9/11, excluding the WTC?

Yes, i can see great progress. Of course a foundation phase takes so much time. Then, it will grow up fast !
Nice updates !

I'm imagining this is a huge and complex site so I would be afraid if the foundation went any quicker. I can't wait to see it above the ground though.

Please don't ask me where I heard of that, but could it be true, that NY decreed a height limit for skyscrapers in New York after 9/11, excluding the WTC? Information you could find out easily and no that is not true. Height is determined by zoning and FAR's.

But the height limit is still 2000 ft -- is this correct?

oki..now where did the 108 fl come from ???

What is the white panal-like substance laid in front of the tower crane nearest to the beams

^^ I'm not sure but it looks like plastic sheeting or insulation material for the tower. if someone can get a closer shot of it than the earthcam?

No the foundation work progresses at a normal speed. When do people start to understand that building a foundation takes time, esspecially in downtown New York on a historic site.

Yeah it's true. People need to realise this.

Here in London for example, we have several large sites that are being prepared for skyscrapers and it takes 2-3 years in some cases. You have to demolish, then excavate the sites, then do test piling and other work, then build the foundations and basements before you can even think about the tower itself.

There are sometimes complications, or unexpected discoveries below ground level, but this doesn't mean a project is cancelled - just delayed.

^^ I'm not sure but it looks like plastic sheeting or insulation material for the tower. if someone can get a closer shot of it than the earthcam?


Maybe this officially means the core is FINALLY beggining to rise:)

It isn't going to rise anytime this year, but the transit hub seems to be going fast.

damn they need to get movin already

is it scheduled to rise above the street level by the end of 07?

i don't think so but nothing is impossible :)

So, is the remnant of the former parking structure going to remain within the sublevels of 1WTC or are they postponing dismantling it? It'll be a shame to see it go.

^^ I think it will stay there. however it will be interesting to see what they'll do with the foundation there. I don't think the remnant is designed to support the wall of the FT. well we'll see :)

dont like the top and the bottom

is it scheduled to rise above the street level by the end of 07?

Lol, this building sucks.

well, seeing as theres no updates anymore, no pics....
Im guessing this building will only be visible above ground by about...say, 2009? are they building all 4 WTC buildings the same time, anyone know?

The WTC Construction Video Project


High Res Version:
640x480 (http://www.warclan.net/Downloads/Freedom_Tower.wmv)


Updated through 7/11

Great video, but im still finding it hard to see any progress throughout the months. All i can see is the cranes moving around a little.

It's just going super slow!

Great video, but im still finding it hard to see any progress throughout the months. All i can see is the cranes moving around a little.

The main thing you see it the new temporary transportation hub being built.

I don't make the content. Just putting the video together.

Earthcam is down today :), hope it will work again tomorrow

the camera will be back up tomorrow and you'll be quite stunned:bowtie: :bowtie: :bowtie: . It's amazing the progress they made today. they've already started installing the glass. I think the lower floors are ready for occupancy. Too bad the camera was down today. Would have been a site to see.

Notice the building in the upper right side of the video...6 floors were added in the videos time frame.

the camera will be back up tomorrow and you'll be quite stunned:bowtie: :bowtie: :bowtie: . It's amazing the progress they made today. they've already started installing the glass. I think the lower floors are ready for occupancy. Too bad the camera was down today. Would have been a site to see.

:lol:

Dont worry everyone, I'll be goin down to the site tomorrow to tell them to hurry things up.

My guess is that progress is really slow, so they don't want to show it at all.

i'm sure your guess is wrong.

July 12, 2007

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I like that one.. Awesome!

Thanks for the photo Chad. It's alwyas great to see updates from the ground level.

NYC in the future???

http://nymag.com/images/2/news/06/05/week5/2016/2016nyc060529_opener_560.jpg


1) Atlantic Yards, Brooklyn, phase one, 2010; phase two, 2016

2) The New Museum, Chelsea, future

3) 80 South Street, Downtown, future

4) IAC Headquarters, High Line, 2007

5) Silvercup West, Queens, 2009

6) Freedom Tower, Downtown, 2011


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80 south street is hideous!

^^ I hope they won't build it! It is huge waste of space in that skyscraper. Manhattan is pretty crowded city with skyscrapers but I view this development as greedy one that lets air space opens up while it leaves many people no room to roam. :ohno:

I wish we could see some closeups of the WTC 1 progress.

i hope carlos will visit the site in the near future

80 south street is the coolest building in that pic

I would rather not have #3 in the NYC skyline,
since when did we go from beautiful buildings like ESB and chrysler...
to these things?

forza 1 WTC

it's called change! cities, especially like NY, need to be modern and stay ahead of the rest of the world. if people in dubai build something outrageously crazy and ultra modern, NYC needs to do the same (in terms of modernity) but the design, i guess, can be a little more conservative. As for 80 SS, I love it.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1251/794227224_517f65a05d_o.jpg

cool photo:eek:

No offense Chad, but that shot is hard to tell, but this flickr shot that was found does give a better view, though it looks as if not much has changed.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1376/773522173_706dfe1f1b_b.jpg

it looks very nice..... the renders are amazing !!!!!

July 13, 2007

passed by the WTC site this afternoon.....i was in a hurry but was able to snap these.......to me it looks like it did 2 weeks ago, last time i was there....




GETTING SHORTER EVERYDAY
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v109/nyctowers/2007/Picture110.jpg


PLAIN PATH ENTRANCE
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v109/nyctowers/2007/Picture111.jpg

No offense Chad, but that shot is hard to tell, but this flickr shot that was found does give a better view, though it looks as if not much has changed.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1376/773522173_706dfe1f1b_b.jpg

That picture is either 1 week or 2 weeks old as the southern staircase (shrouded in black) was taken down a few weeks back but in this picture it is still there.

NYC in the future???

http://nymag.com/images/2/news/06/05/week5/2016/2016nyc060529_opener_560.jpg


1) Atlantic Yards, Brooklyn, phase one, 2010; phase two, 2016

2) The New Museum, Chelsea, future

3) 80 South Street, Downtown, future

4) IAC Headquarters, High Line, 2007

5) Silvercup West, Queens, 2009

6) Freedom Tower, Downtown, 2011


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It looks very nice to me..

i hope carlos will visit the site in the near future

LOL I was there today!!!!

So did u take some pix?

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OH LORD YESSSSSSSSSSSSS

LOOK A FEW POSTS BEHIND

Ooops.. My bad..:angel: I didnt see ur nickname hehe

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sorry, i didn't see your pics.

View of the site on July 13:

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1051/804398286_d35f836497_o.jpg

source: Mn Photos (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mnsomero/)

^^ WOW! I can see some process! :cheers:

Much of it is on the tranist hub rather than the FT though.

Will the Transit hub, or at least part of it, open before any of the towers?

^^ WOW! I can see some process! :cheers:

I only see the transit hub being built.:ohno:


Can someone tell me exactly whats going on at the FT site?

What's that blue thing on the base of the FT?

July 13, 2007

passed by the WTC site this afternoon.....i was in a hurry but was able to snap these.......to me it looks like it did 2 weeks ago, last time i was there....




GETTING SHORTER EVERYDAY
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v109/nyctowers/2007/Picture110.jpg


PLAIN PATH ENTRANCE
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v109/nyctowers/2007/Picture111.jpg

Carlos, what time were you down there??? I was at the site around 1-230ish pm on the 12th!! LOL.

I only see the transit hub being built.:ohno:


Can someone tell me exactly whats going on at the FT site?

If you look very closer to that picture, you will see some process on Freedom tower site. Few beams installed next the the "wall" of beams. Also the core are still in work.

It looks to me that a whole lot is happening on the entire site, excavation on the tower 2 and 4 sites, concrete operations at tower 1 (FT), and the transit terminal site also, so if tower 1 comes above grade end of spring 08, that suits me fine, but what i would really like to see is tower's 2 and 4 also above grade at that time, not out of the realm of possibility, and with Goldman Sachs almost, if not topped out, what a picture that would be.

Carlos, what time were you down there??? I was at the site around 1-230ish pm on the 12th!! LOL.


WOW...ha ha if you ever see a guy with a serpent snake on his left arm!!! say hello IT'S ME LOL........ :)

I was walking towards the E train around 3 PM.

Slowly but surely it's getting done... a little progress is better than none I suppose.

The webcam is still down, but it's not as if the site would be any different than it does right now.

that is a very large pit they are working in....strange..in a couple years we wont recognize wat we where looking at

They upgraded the camera apparently. Now the picture is a meg (1.1 to be exact)

http://img33.picoodle.com/img/img33/9/7/16/f_1330m_99ffff7.jpg

They upgraded the camera apparently. Now the picture is a meg (1.1 to be exact)

but as i can see the quality is not much better, unfortunately

What are the blue objects btween the FT and the memorial?

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coffins...