this tower and other 3 new towers and new park is a far superior complex then original towers.
sorry but true.
lets leave the past and look forward to future.
this complex is a monument to the fallen on that horrible day in 2001.
This is our way of saying screw you.
look what we can do!

I agree with you, Culwalla.

1 WTC will be an amazing sight when finished. Hell, I think it's an amazing sight right now!

I also now agree that replacing the twins would have been a questionable plan.

There is one missed opportunity on the site (IMO) The granite walls are a nice idea in the memorial, but imagine a clear wall (like you see in modern aquariums) around the entire waterfall. You could stand below ground and look out through the cascading water at the towers footprints.

1 WTC will be an amazing sight when finished. Hell, I think it's an amazing sight right now!

I also now agree that replacing the twins would have been a questionable plan.

There is one missed opportunity on the site (IMO) The granite walls are a nice idea in the memorial, but imagine a clear wall (like you see in modern aquariums) around the entire waterfall. You could stand below ground and look out throught the cascading water at the towers footprints.

Yes that would have been an excellent idea!^^

Thanks CULWULLA your diagrams are priceless as always :)

this tower and other 3 new towers and new park is a far superior complex then original towers.
sorry but true.
lets leave the past and look forward to future.
this complex is a monument to the fallen on that horrible day in 2001.
This is our way of saying screw you.
look what we can do!

I thought you were Australian. So why are you acting like a American patriot?

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Aren't those joggers worried about getting run over?

Aren't those joggers worried about getting run over?I think that's a bike lane

Why do people not like the 1WTC? It looks like a sparkly diamond to me. I like it.

I think most people well grow to love it.

I remember when the Twins were opened, most people hated them. "Big ugly boring towers !" But they grew to love them.

Giving away my age again.:)

1 WTC will be an amazing sight when finished. Hell, I think it's an amazing sight right now!

I also now agree that replacing the twins would have been a questionable plan.

There is one missed opportunity on the site (IMO) The granite walls are a nice idea in the memorial, but imagine a clear wall (like you see in modern aquariums) around the entire waterfall. You could stand below ground and look out through the cascading water at the towers footprints.

There you are!

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=59105855#post59105855

http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/1650/100621hrp1wtc1.jpg
this pic really puts 1WTC's height into perspective. Its now 92m/300ft and it looks it in this photo! seems to look much shorter in other pics as I guess there arent many buildings on the site to compare to.

this pic really puts 1WTC's height into perspective. Its now 92m/300ft and it looks it in this photo! seems to look much shorter in other pics as I guess there arent many buildings on the site to compare to.

It's because the whole site is HUGE...The scale of the tower is lost in this HUGE space...There are some photos on this forum on which you can actually notice how big all this is...When you look at the cranes, it doesn't seems so big...Because even cranes are HUGE...The best way is to spot the workers...But it's not so easy...Because it's HUGE...:nuts:

I'm in agreement, hopefully ill get back to NYC this time next year to see this thing going up IRL! Last time I was there (August 2008) there was nothing to see over the fences becuase all of the worlks were still underground. This has really come a long way and still have so much more to come.

It's because the whole site is HUGE...The scale of the tower is lost in this HUGE space...There are some photos on this forum on which you can actually notice how big all this is...When you look at the cranes, it doesn't seems so big...Because even cranes are HUGE...The best way is to spot the workers...But it's not so easy...Because it's HUGE...:nuts:

DinoVabec nailed it, the scale of Tower One is sorta lost in the overall scale of the site. This tower is just as massive as one of the Twins and well be just as high. The reason it looks sort of small is because it is on the edge of a 16 acre construction site in the heart of lower Manhattan. No where else in the world is there such a huge area under construction in the "heart" of the city.

By heart I mean wallet. I always thought of Manhattan's heart as the ESB. As for it's soul, that lives in it's people !

Aren't those joggers worried about getting run over?

LOL... it is a side road for pedestrians and bikers

king ofconstruction-i was being an australian standing up to terrorism

I thought you were Australian. So why are you acting like a American patriot?

You don't have to be an American to think that. As a European, I think exactly the same thing. Looks like everybody forgot the 11th of March in Madrid or the july 7th in London, both happened after 9/11. Sure, no building was demolished, and a few dozens of deaths do not have the same impact as a few thousand. But the ideals behind them are exactly the same.

LOL... it is a side road for pedestrians and bikers

Aw, I thought it was a road for cars that are 4 feet wide ;).

DinoVabec nailed it, the scale of Tower One is sorta lost in the overall scale of the site. This tower is just as massive as one of the Twins and well be just as high. The reason it looks sort of small is because it is on the edge of a 16 acre construction site in the heart of lower Manhattan. No where else in the world is there such a huge area under construction in the "heart" of the city.

By heart I mean wallet. I always thought of Manhattan's heart as the ESB. As for it's soul, that lives in it's people !

I was thinking more central park its the largest green thing on the island.

There you are!

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=59105855#post59105855

http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/5302/memorialwtcmem2lg.jpg

Sorry for the off topic, but this would have been amazing!

Back on topic, the only thing missing from the steel for the next two levels to proceed is the four corners....come on guys, you said two floors every two weeks. June 29 will be two weeks since these two levels started.

The tower is progressing well, but that will be built, until 2013.? :sly:

Aw, I thought it was a road for cars that are 4 feet wide ;).

:lol::lol::lol:

june, 22nd

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DinoVabec nailed it, the scale of Tower One is sorta lost in the overall scale of the site. This tower is just as massive as one of the Twins and well be just as high. The reason it looks sort of small is because it is on the edge of a 16 acre construction site in the heart of lower Manhattan. No where else in the world is there such a huge area under construction in the "heart" of the city.

By heart I mean wallet. I always thought of Manhattan's heart as the ESB. As for it's soul, that lives in it's people !

I could think of a body part for Greenwich Village, but will keep the conversation civilized.

I could think of a body part for Greenwich Village, but will keep the conversation civilized.

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

They raised the cocoon up to the new levels

They raised the cocoon up to the new levels

Yeah...I was allways wondering how they doin' that...Now I saw today...Tower cranes workin' together...:)

LOL... it is a side road for pedestrians and bikersWith painted lanes? You downstaters are crazy!:weird:

With painted lanes? You downstaters are crazy!:weird:Do you really think a car could fit on those lanes?

The site looks so peaceful at sunset.

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x22/monkfish07/wtc1.jpg

(From the oxblue webcam)

Do people actually use that staircase?

With painted lanes? You downstaters are crazy!:weird:

That funny coming from a guy riding horse and buggy. So use to dirt roads, you don't know what the paints for lol

Do people actually use that staircase?

Tht's why it's there...:)

BTW. RGZ webcam should be back up at the and of this month...

great photo....

The site looks so peaceful at sunset.

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x22/monkfish07/wtc1.jpg

(From the oxblue webcam)

Can you post the link for the webcam? thanks....

Do you really think a car could fit on those lanes?

Mr. Beans car maybe

This is diagram I workin' on, about steel growin' on the tower...:)
Floors are on the left side and date is below...
I marked weeks with green so the progress it's more visible per weeks...
The red line representing the core steel and the blue line representing tower steel...
I'll post it updated at the end of every month..
Here it is from March till now...

:cheers:

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thanks for that diagram, great way to record progress......hope to see more

Can I get a link to 'Part 1' thread of this project?

http://www.panynj.gov/wtcprogress/index.html

One of the largest air conditioning units in the US being installed at WTC

Workers lower one of five giant chiller units into the subgrade area of the WTC site. The chiller units have the capacity to cool 700 homes and will provide air conditioning for the 9/11 Memorial, WTC Transportation Hub, and additional retail spaces.

More pics at the website above
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they've places a corner node... at least according to the webcam...

they've places a corner node... at least according to the webcam...

Yep, looks like they've placed 2 on the east side so far.

All of this landscaping is really nice.

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Reahchyr

By GreenwichBoy, WNY, 6-24-10.

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This project will steal five min of my day for the next two years until the whole WTC site is completed...so much tiiimeeee!!!!!

wow that's roughly 61 hours for 2 years.. i'm on here at least 5 mins each day..so i'm hearing ya..haha

http://www.panynj.gov/wtcprogress/index.html

One of the largest air conditioning units in the US being installed at WTC

Workers lower one of five giant chiller units into the subgrade area of the WTC site. The chiller units have the capacity to cool 700 homes and will provide air conditioning for the 9/11 Memorial, WTC Transportation Hub, and additional retail spaces.


i need one of those for my home

All of this landscaping is really nice.

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Reahchyr

^^ Magnificent shot ^^

i need one of those for my home

All you have to do is divert the Hudson river to provide cold water.:)

Wow, i been reading the posts and I didnt even know about this building being built. It's really a beautiful and nice idea and I'm looking forward to see the finished trade center...

But I did some research on the internet and there were some talk about things that you guys didn't mention so, is this true?

Another WTC three miles from OWTC (http://snowfish.com/sound/12712/)

Wow, i been reading the posts and I didnt even know about this building being built. It's really a beautiful and nice idea and I'm looking forward to see the finished trade center...

But I did some research on the internet and there were some talk about things that you guys didn't mention so, is this true?

Another WTC three miles from OWTC (http://snowfish.com/sound/12712/)

Nice Advertising...:lol:

This is diagram I workin' on, about steel growin' on the tower...:)
Floors are on the left side and date is below...
I marked weeks with green so the progress it's more visible per weeks...
The red line representing the core steel and the blue line representing tower steel...
I'll post it updated at the end of every month..
Here it is from March till now...

:cheers:


Hi, this is a nice idea, I am afraid though that you might have to change the abscissa dimension to years in stead of days to see at least a reasonable slope.

Hi, this is a nice idea, I am afraid though that you might have to change the abscissa dimension to years in stead of days to see at least a reasonable slope.

Sure...When they reach some height and number of floor I'll make diagram per weeks, quarters and of course years...But for now that's the best way I think, since they're only 3 months away from the start...

:cheers:

I wish the rgz cam didn't suck so much. It has a great angle, but it almost never updates. :(

I wish the rgz cam didn't suck so much. It has a great angle, but it almost never updates. :(

According to the RGZ main page, the operator of the cam is out of town and hopes to get it back up and running before the end of the month.

*many posts deleted* ...


I've banned Pfeuffer. And I'll ban anyone else who disrupts this thread.

Stay on topic please.

Anyone have any updated shots from nearby buildings?

- A

http://www.panynj.gov/wtcprogress/index.html

One of the largest air conditioning units in the US being installed at WTC

Workers lower one of five giant chiller units into the subgrade area of the WTC site. The chiller units have the capacity to cool 700 homes and will provide air conditioning for the 9/11 Memorial, WTC Transportation Hub, and additional retail spaces.

More pics at the website above
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The district cooling is presumed to lower by half the air conditioning costs, however overhere most of the new residential (and commercial) towers (and communities) are cooled with the same technique and residents are actually faced with higher bills then what residents of older towers with conventional air conditioning have to pay.

I don't know where's the problem: The technology is viable if the price of the electricity is very high, there's a bad management problem for the local providers over here or maybe the costs rises exponentially with the load increase making the technology not viable in very hot weather conditions.

Are these used elsewhere in NYC? Anyone has experience?

it my first time seen it myself msybe somebody else from around here might know

Just thought people should know that the RGZ website, while not updated in a while, now seems to have been "hacked" by a script kiddy or something. I went there last night and the page displayed some kind of wierd message about being hacked by some group, and at that point I immediately closed the site's page for fear of getting a virus or exploit. My antivirus program didn't detect anything, and I don't know if it's just a bad attempt at trolling or if there was some kind of site security breach, but the site should probably not be visited until some brave soul visits and determines it's back to normal.

Right now there is a new info on RGZ from the owner of the camera/website-admin saying that he is in new york at the moment and looking for a new position for the cam. Furthermore he promises to take and post new pics/videos..

just found this pic on flickr ... very rare angle:

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june, 28th

Sad that they didn't complete the current two levels in two weeks. I look forward to the next two!

^^You expect too much. The last two levels took 7 weeks. I would be happy if the current two levels don't take longer than 4 weeks. :)

At the moment I'm more concentrated on the activities in the lobby. On the hq cam it looks like one of the walls in the lobby has been finished. I hope this is a good sign and most of all I hope we see some cladding in august or september. :)

Wow fast progress.

Move tower 3 to the old duetche bank site and build a WTC1 twin where tower 3 was supposed to go.

Good idea, never gonna happen.

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I just noticed that 'culwulla = cum stain' is a tag for this thread. What the fuck? http://media.ign.com/boardfaces/18.gif

By GreenwichBoy, WNY, 6-30-10.

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In that first pic, you can really see the columns that will form the shafts of light from this render:
http://nymag.com/daily/intel/20070802freedomlobby.jpg

Move tower 3 to the old duetche bank site and build a WTC1 twin where tower 3 was supposed to go.

^^
Great Idea, but I would say move WTC 2 instead of WTC 3.
WTC 1 as is (with spire), and new WTC 1 twin (without a spire) in #2's spot.
Both must be skewed 45 degrees to mimic the original twins.

(why didn't they ask my opinion before???) :lol:

In that first pic, you can really see the columns that will form the shafts of light from this render:


That's brilliant! I'd never noticed that before. Is this purely an aesthetic feature, or does it have anything to do with the safety features being implemented?

HOLY CRAP... it's getting there :)

great update ! We really needed one, Theres a notorious difference, and 3 new levels were added (without full slabs yet)...

^^ How high now?

^^ How high now?

About 300 feet high.

amazing progress

That's brilliant! I'd never noticed that before. Is this purely an aesthetic feature, or does it have anything to do with the safety features being implemented?

The concrete blast wall is to protect against truck bombs. Because of criticism that the lobby would look like a depressing "concrete bunker", they put those openings in the concrete to allow more sunlight to enter the lobby.

I hope they hang an American flag on the side of the building for the Fourth of July this Sunday, like they did for a few weeks back around December or so. It is, afterall, the July 4, 1776 tower. ;)

On a side note, I've been thinking this for a while but it would be awesome if they added the final section to the top of the spire on either July 4, 2012 or July 4, 2013.

Let's not overdo it.

Let's not overdo it.I'm sure it wouldn't be hard for them to hang a flag from the building.

The guy at rebuildgroundzero.com just uploaded 93 pics from all around the site on his website in the photos section, under June 2010. They look to be about a week or so old, but still very cool shots from literally every conceivable angle around the site.

http://rebuildgroundzero.com/en/photos/2010/june-2010/

http://rebuildgroundzero.com/components/com_joomgallery/img_originals/2010_39/june_2010_41/ground_zero_-_june_2010_86_20100629_1553132304.jpg

I second "Long Live the World Trade!". :)

About 300 feet high.

^^^^ Fast progress :okay:

I'm sure it wouldn't be hard for them to hang a flag from the building.
I was referring to his other idea.

I was referring to his other idea.

Why would having the topping-off ceremony for the spire being on a July 4th be overdoing it? Either the topping-off of the roof or the topping-off of the spire should occur on some meaningful date, either a September 11 or a July 4th. The topping-off at the roof will probably occur around the beginning of 2012 and I'm sure they're not going to postpone the installation of the final beam for half a year.

The building will be 1776 feet tall as we all know, because of the signing of the Declaration of Independence on July 4th 1776, and was/is called the "Freedom Tower". If they wanted to, they could plan the construction of the spire so that they can have the final section of it, which will bring the building to a height of 1776 feet, in place on a July 4th. The name Freedom Tower may have been tacky and cheesy but topping out the building at 1776 feet on a July 4th would be symbolic and memorable.

last picture its great....atmosphere daily activity of NY

the building looks TOO thin to reach above 400 meters

It has been said different times before: 1wtc it's almost as wide as the original twins so it's not as thin as it looks

I love the arc created by the corner design. It normally does not show up very well in pictures (spectacular in person), but the picture above by RKOwens shows it perfectly! Thanks

Too thin? Looks wider at the base than the twins on the HD cam.

http://www.earthcam.com/clients/groundzero/groundZero.swf

the building looks TOO thin to reach above 400 meters

Get your eyes checked.

Why would having the topping-off ceremony for the spire being on a July 4th be overdoing it? Either the topping-off of the roof or the topping-off of the spire should occur on some meaningful date, either a September 11 or a July 4th. The topping-off at the roof will probably occur around the beginning of 2012 and I'm sure they're not going to postpone the installation of the final beam for half a year.

The building will be 1776 feet tall as we all know, because of the signing of the Declaration of Independence on July 4th 1776, and was/is called the "Freedom Tower". If they wanted to, they could plan the construction of the spire so that they can have the final section of it, which will bring the building to a height of 1776 feet, in place on a July 4th. The name Freedom Tower may have been tacky and cheesy but topping out the building at 1776 feet on a July 4th would be symbolic and memorable.
I disagree. The height of 1776 feet already crosses the border from sentiment to kitsch. After all, when you look at it from a sober perspective, it is in the end "just an office building", which by itself certainly has no connection to liberty or patriotism whatsoever (personally I find office work closer to slavery than working in an Indonesian sweatshop, but that's just my opinion, I really, really hate office work). I like the idea of prominently displaying the star-spangled banner on Independence Day and of course far more importantly on Sept. 11th, this to me is a far more important symbol of "this is America, we will rebuild, you can't break us" than trying to squeeze kitschy symbolism into the architecture of an office building.

Dunno if any of that makes sense, I just woke up five minutes ago and haven't had my coffee yet, so I am not at my most eloquent...

What's going to happen when the US finally goes metric ? the height wont mean much in feet then....?

I love you New York! <3

What's going to happen when the US finally goes metric ? the height wont mean much in feet then....?

That's something we won't have to worry about for a long time, most likely. :lol:

^^ They would have to build it 1776 meters high :lol:

http://www.lowermanhattan.info/construction/project_updates/freedom_tower_26204.aspx

*The following information was last updated on July 2, 2010.

* Steel and concrete installation (multiple cranes on site). Tower steel is now at floor 28
* Both the south and north cores are now being erected as the structure rises
* "Cocoon" safety system now in place around upper perimeter, to rise with structure
* Final concrete installation on the sub-grade structure, including the surrounding plaza
* Utility installation and tie-ins
* Crews are coordinating substructure construction while maintaining PATH service

great to see that this project is going successfully

we're not going metric, they tried when I was 6 and let's say it didn't bold well.

Sidenote I just came back to NYC Monday. And I was think on my way through Jersey. I can't wait to see tower one from here. You can see ESB, BOA and for some reason The Times Towers clear from Newark.

The rebuildgroundzero webcam is up again! Nice to see all the progress.

http://rebuildgroundzero.org/webcam/rgz_000.jpg

It seems that the memorial for the old twin towers is coming along really quickly. The empty holes were the towers stood ( a very very nice memorial in my opinion ) seem to be almost finished.

I took this on Thursday form Jersey City

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Deleted.....reading it thismorning ? agree I got off topic....sorry
But while I'm here.....Happy Fourth of July : ) It's the 4th here now, just another day...but know tomorrow you all with be celebrating. I have been in the USA three times on 4th July...........oops getting off topic ...again!

I mean this in a very non anti USA way.....I love the USA but the world finds it interesting...? if that's the right word when you hang onto things the rest of the world has left behind ? Funny but Australia had it's moment way back in 1966......we had Pounds as currency and Feet and Inches and miles for length and distance.....and Stones and pounds as weight......It was weird for a time but metric is now so easy..you already went metric with your money...haa why have a unit of 12 when 10 is so .....so obvious..yet when it comes to changing it will never happen as you live in a cocoon .....and get away with it because you have a big enough population to not have to think your part of the world........I say all this not frustrated or angry......just as an observer : ) .hmmm New York and this project the WTC is a strong focus of my life experience....in so many ways I wont go into..yet again here....I wish it and everyone in New York all the best and follow every step with great interest.....but smile about things you guys don't ever see...or think about : ).............all good really...that's what makes the world worth travelling....if not we would all stay home.

I am English and when I was young we had not only feet and inches but a currency based on twelve pennies to a shilling and twenty shillings to a pound.

However, from my schooldays I have used the metric system and for the engineering work that I do, I would never consider using anything else (although a knowledge of feet and inches is still necessary when working on old structures and interpreting old drawings.

But when it comes to measurement of the human body, the old imperial system is much better to the extent that even very young people will still express their height in terms of feet and inches. Metres are too big, millimetres far too small. Centimetres are a bit better but ruled out of the SI (Systeme Internationale) system.

The French architect Le Corbusier praised the British imperial system for its proportionality and proposed adopting a similar system internationally.

As for the use of twelve rather than ten. Ten is obvious because we have ten fingers. However, the people who decided that there should be twelve inches to a foot or twelve pennies to a shilling also had ten fingers - so why choose such an odd multiple - were they stupid or was it just cussedness?

As I understand it, there was a very good mathematical reason. Apart from itself and one, ten can only be divided into two lots of five or five lots of two. However, twelve can be divided into six lots of two, four lots of three, three lots of four or two lots of six. That made the use of twelve much more convenient.

I suppose we should have gone the whole hog and adopted a duodecimal system with 10 representing twelve and new numerals to represent ten and eleven and, since we didn't, the use of a measurement and currency system based on the decimal system has been more practical.

I'm not advocating going back to imperial measurement but if the USA goes on using the system indefinitely, I can't see it causing too many problems - after all they managed to land a man on the moon using feet and inches.


Sorry for sidetracking this thread and I promise not to do it again but I think that this is an interesting subject.

But when it comes to measurement of the human body, the old imperial system is much better to the extent that even very young people will still express their height in terms of feet and inches. Metres are too big, millimetres far too small. Centimetres are a bit better but ruled out of the SI (Systeme Internationale) system.

Cm are out of the SI as much as feet and inches,


Ten is obvious because we have ten fingers.

Ten is obvious because we have only 10 numerals, and it would be too difficult to add a couple.


after all they managed to land a man on the moon using feet and inches.

And they lost a 300million dollar spacecraft for a misunderstanding between metrical and imperial units :hahano:

Why are you guys talking about the metric system? let's get back on topic.

and you got out talking about or systems and get back on topic

Are you aware that your posts are nearly incomprehensible like 50% of the time? I mean this in the politest way possible.

Are you aware that your posts are nearly incomprehensible like 50% of the time? I mean this in the politest way possible.

Ya I know it hard for me to write, using my thumbs. And I keep losing my connection I'll fix my last post for you

By GreenwichBoy, WNY.

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What's going to happen when the US finally goes metric ? the height wont mean much in feet then....?

That won't change the meaning, but firstly I doubt there will be a conversion anytime soon....doubt I'll ever see it.

this building wont be any taller or shorter than any of the other current supertalls in the world if the system were to change from imperial to metric. It will still be shorter than the BK and taller the the Sears Tower. The height stays the same!!

lol what a silly perspective.

I got off this metric/ Imperial thing..all I was saying it is a symbolic measurement....in this case height in feet...sure it will stay the same whether the system changes but the measurement in Metres wont have that symbolic meaning.....we put up a 150ft flag pole for our 150th Anniversary but now it's just a tall flag pole because we're metric now....meanwhile back to WTC 1.

What's going to happen when the US finally goes metric ? the height wont mean much in feet then....?

...it will still be 1,776 feet tall, metric or not. A foot will still be a foot.

We need to watch the hd cam closely on tuesday. The queen will be touring on that day, i wonder what exactly she will do or see probably just the memorial.. should be easy to spot her there will probably be a lot of people around her.

What's going to happen when the US finally goes metric ? the height wont mean much in feet then....?

Believe me, i don't think that will happen anytime soon, they seem happy with their system of units.

America will half-collapse before is actually goes European.

European? The entire world uses metric. We're the only ones that don't.

European? The entire world uses metric. We're the only ones that don't.

hey sometimes being different has its privileges and attractions.

I'm going to school for CAD design. Trust me I know. :D

It's lame that's what it is!
Metric is so much more precise and exact. I keep my GPS on metric as it makes everything clean and understandable.
In 300 meters turn left :)

I'm going to school for CAD design. Trust me I know. :D

Just CAD design? Can't that be covered in 1 class?

Can we stop with the metric and American standard talk and get back on topic please????

Why are we arguing over metric vs imperial system? Dude, it doesn't matter which system of measurement you use. No system can be or is inherently more accurate or precise than any other. Precision is not a quality inherent in the standard of measurement but in the actual measurement you make, and the more decimal places you have the more precise you are.

no work today because of the holiday but forecast is nice but hot all week so there should be a lot of work going on!

Just CAD design? Can't that be covered in 1 class?

What? It's a two year program.

technically U.S is not the only country, liberia, and burma but these two are small. Also you are GOING to school to be a CAD designer that mean that you havent finished yet so it doesnt mean that you know. AutoCAD is only a 1 semester class. But back on topic this is a couple day old but a worker was hurt by falling metal

http://www.dnainfo.com/20100701/financial-district-battery-park-city/world-trade-center-worker-hurt-by-falling-metal
FINANCIAL DISTRICT — A construction worker was hospitalized Thursday when a piece of metal from the World Trade Center site fell onto his leg, officials said.

The unidentified worker was on the fifth level of the One World Trade Center high-rise project — the site of the future Freedom Tower — when he was hurt about 12:43 p.m., according to officials from the FDNY and the Port Authority.

The worker was taken to Bellevue Hospital with minor injuries, an FDNY spokesman said.

A source said the worker was employed by the Canadian company Collavino Construction, which is the primary contractor responsible for pouring the concrete at the site, according to the website Construction Today.com.

An official who answered the phone at the company’s New Jersey offices said he was not aware that any of their workers were injured.

In March, another worker was injured at the site when he fell 20 feet into a hole from the fourth or fifth level of the building, the FDNY said at the time.

During that incident, the FDNY was barred from entering the WTC site, which is under the control of the Port Authority. The injured worker was carried to the FDNY and the EMS workers outside the construction site, the FDNY said at the time.

The FDNY said there were no such restrictions to their access during the latest incident.

Excuse me, AutoCAD isn't not just one class or only one semester class. My degree in interior design required me to take THREE CAD classes in three quarters. Some degree programs could requires more than three classes depends.

Anyway, back to the topic.

South crane is rising. Looks like some news programs have been taking notice of the progress this part year. On Good morning america they entioned how dramatically different the site looks compared to a year ago, and how they are preparing for the queen today, she is supposed to lay a wreath she probably wont be there long.

Excuse me, AutoCAD isn't not just one class or only one semester class. My degree in interior design required me to take THREE CAD classes in three quarters. Some degree programs could requires more than three classes depends.

Anyway, back to the topic.

i meant autocad the book class, basic autocad

Uh, there's way more to being a CAD designer/engineer than learning AutoCAD. This is the last response I will make on this topic.

New York reached 100 degrees for the first time in almost a decade.

Link: http://www.weather.com/outlook/weather-news/news/articles/tuesday-heat-highlights_2010-07-06

Heck, it's hotter there than it is down here in Georgia, which is rare.
Speaking of 100, this is my 100th post.

I can tell u it been 100 degrees, more then once here in the last 10 years.

By GreenwichBoy, WNY, 7-6-10.

http://wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=9858&d=1278466290

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It's becoming real! :eek:

how did the queen's visit go??:D
it was 103F in manhattan today...:gaah:

:cheers:

I saw her on the news here in Baltimore. It looked like she was about to melt! What a classy lady...always has been.

We had the highest temp on the East Coast today...105 at BWI and 106 at Frederick...a town a few miles west of B-more.:omg:

^^ real weather for shorts and t-shirts, unless you 're a royal off course. ;)

Looks very nice but I would have desired twin towers again.

Is that just me or is the core scaffolding just moved up?

Edit: jup, the core scaffolding is 2 floors higher...New steel coming...

Go OWTC! survive the heat!

http://www.panynj.gov/wtcprogress/press_releasesItem.cfm?headLine_id=1302

"Press Releases
THE DURST ORGANIZATION SELECTED TO NEGOTIATE EQUITY MEMBERSHIP INTEREST IN ONE WORLD TRADE CENTER
Date: Jul 07, 2010
Press Release Number: 48
Action Adds to Growing Market Confidence in One WTC and Momentum of Entire WTC Site

The Port Authority today selected The Durst Organization (“Durst”) to negotiate acquisition of an equity membership interest in One World Trade Center. Over approximately the next 30 days, Port Authority staff and Durst will work to finalize an agreement subject to the approval of the Board of Commissioners.

The selection follows an intensely competitive six-month process involving some of New York City’s and the nation’s most prominent private sector real estate interests – all vying for a stake in One World Trade Center.

The Port Authority chose to advance negotiations with Durst because its proposal best aligned with the agency’s interests in the long-term success of the office tower and because of the firm’s prior success in developing premier, “green” office buildings.

Port Authority Chairman Anthony R. Coscia said, “We’re extremely pleased that some of the most prominent developers in the country saw market value in this world-class office tower, and engaged in an extremely competitive process for a stake in it. What is most important is that we reach an agreement that is good for the building, for the World Trade Center site and for the region.”

Port Authority Executive Director Chris Ward said, “This confirms a clear and growing market interest in One World Trade Center and adds further momentum to the development of the overall site.”

Under the Durst proposal, the firm will make a minimum investment of $100 million to acquire a membership interest in One World Trade Center LLC. Durst will also bring its expertise in assisting the Port Authority with ongoing construction and take on primary responsibility for tenant fit-out, leasing and property management. In exchange, Durst would receive a financial return tied to its equity interest and performance of the building.

The family owned Durst Organization controls ten million square feet of commercial office space with a current occupancy rate of 97 percent. Most recently, it successfully developed and opened One Bryant Park, the 2.1 million square foot tower on 42nd Street, which is home to Bank of America.

Construction of One World Trade Center has now risen to the 28th floor – about 270 feet above street level.

When completed in 2013, the LEED Gold Certified tower will contain approximately 2.6 million square feet of world-class office space, along with an observation deck and a skytop restaurant.

Currently, the Port Authority has leases or commitments for approximately 1.3 million square feet of space in the tower. The Vantone Industry Co. has signed a lease for 190,810 square feet of office space, which it plans to use for the China Center. The U.S. General Services Administration and the New York State Office of General Services have commitments totaling 1.1 million square feet."



I'm surprised Durst won. They made some not-so favorable remarks about the WTC over the years (too much office space, not the right time). I hope it's a good partnership.

Seems like it's taking forever to come up :gaah:

Haven't checked this thread in a while. Glad to see it actually rising. Can't wait to see the site in a few years.

Queen in da house! :)

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Governor David A. Paterson (http://www.flickr.com/photos/governordavidapaterson/)

Nice photos ! What a prestigious visit for the zone !

Excellent photographs! I do like the Union Jack flying in the background.

by Sal Schiano, WNY

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Thank you so much for those...We need more updates from 7WTC...:)

it nice the Queen took the time to visit our fair city. I'm suprise she hasn't been in 30 years. I thought she might have visited after 9/11. How long did it take for us to visit, after the Londan subway bombing? Anyway Hopefully she'll return to see the WTC finished.

Oh yes!

it nice the Queen took the time to visit our fair city. I'm suprise she hasn't been in 30 years. I thought she might have visited after 9/11. How long did it take for us to visit, after the Londan subway bombing? Anyway Hopefully she'll return to see the WTC finished.

That's a long shot. She's already 84.

Great updates! I see a lot of process already! Yeah it was nice of Queen to stop by and check it out. Hopefully she will continue to live to return to Ground Zero when it completed.

^^^ yep and her mom die what about 5 years ago. She won't be back for another 30 years, so you might be right.

The queen looks very old.

The queen looks very old.Shes 84 she is very old

2.5 foot thick blast walls going in:

http://wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=9856&d=1278466278

http://wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=9858&d=1278466290
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Those blast walls really change the look of the building.

Shes 84 she is very old

The last time she was in New York was before most of us were even born.

Great updates! I see a lot of process already! Yeah it was nice of Queen to stop by and check it out. Hopefully she will continue to live to return to Ground Zero when it completed.

When is it suppose to be complete? 2012, right? If so, then I'm sure she'll live to be 86, heck she'll probably live well into her 90s.

The last time she was in New York was before most of us were even born.

You know, if she was just your average Jane I'd wonder how she would be able to stay away from NY so long without having the urge to go back...Then reality set it and I realized she's got plenty of castles to play in back home.

You know, if she was just your average Jane I'd wonder how she would be able to stay away from NY so long without having the urge to go back...Then reality set it and I realized she's got plenty of castles to play in back home.
that and the fact that America is not a Commonwealth country, thus royal visits aren't on the adjenda all that often.

5 trucks full of steel down at the site...:) Now that's bussines...

WTC - I salute you! :cheers:

When is it suppose to be complete? 2012, right? If so, then I'm sure she'll live to be 86, heck she'll probably live well into her 90s.



You know, if she was just your average Jane I'd wonder how she would be able to stay away from NY so long without having the urge to go back...Then reality set it and I realized she's got plenty of castles to play in back home.Its hard to enjoy a place when they're is security and police surrounding you and pretty much the whole crowded atmosphere taken away

Looks like the core steel is more-less done...Floor steel coming right after...I think this will be fastest constructed floor..

Nice to see some progress after so long :D

I like this project, because this project means a new future to the city of New York, I like the design of the buildings, of the subways stations.

i've seen the twin towers fall. and it's great that soon a new tower will rise on ground zero. :banana2:

this will be really meaningful to all americans. i'm getting goosebumps just imagining a building built after the twin towers.

thumbs UP on this!!

Awesome!!

by the time this so called "freedom tower" is finished (if it ever will), China will have a hundred more buildings taller than this one.

And no one will ever know about them. :)

Excellent photographs! I do like the Union Jack flying in the background.


FYI it's the Union Flag only becomes the Jack when used by the Royal Navy!:)
Looking forward to seeing this complete!

^^

Well said. Also, any updates on construction? When are the next two levels of steel supposed to go in?

..blast wall.

just weird.

With all these extra terroist prevention measures like blast walls and extra thick concrete, is there any room left for offices?

seems like another ignorant American thinking they're in the middle of the attention. You forgot that China has 1.3 billion people. That alone is 1 billion more than all of US Americans dreaming about a propaganda building that's still a hole underground after 9 years.

You better chill because your SSC life won't be longer than 2 posts.

Back to the construction..
New steel load down at the site...If they keep this speed, 2 new floors could be done in the next 2 weeks...:)

seems like another ignorant American thinking they're in the middle of the attention. You forgot that China has 1.3 billion people. That alone is 1 billion more than all of US Americans dreaming about a propaganda building that's still a hole underground after 9 years.

whoa now no need to bash on no one :P. what he is trying to say is that there is already history to this building. where ones in chine are just being tall for 1 year untill the next biggest arise. this isnt just a building its a statement.

seems like another ignorant American thinking they're in the middle of the attention. You forgot that China has 1.3 billion people. That alone is 1 billion more than all of US Americans dreaming about a propaganda building that's still a hole underground after 9 years.

You forget that out of those 1.3 billion Chinese, 1.2 billion are subsistance farmers and peasants. USA is the " middle of attention " as you put it in terms of economy, military, cultural influence and in many other sphere's of influence. I am an Englishman but I realize this is USA's world. You seem to be the ignorant one!

seems like another ignorant American thinking they're in the middle of the attention. You forgot that China has 1.3 billion people. That alone is 1 billion more than all of US Americans dreaming about a propaganda building that's still a hole underground after 9 years.

If you think 30 floors of steel and concrete is "a hole in the ground" then I don't think you need to be commenting on anything. :lol: :cheers:

With all these extra terroist prevention measures like blast walls and extra thick concrete, is there any room left for offices?

:lol:

With all these extra terroist prevention measures like blast walls and extra thick concrete, is there any room left for offices?

^^ This is going to be the worry of modern era buildings!!! :bash:

The queen looks very old.

I thought she looks rather young for her age, more like a lady in 60's, possibly 70.

To me 84 is old, but not very old. Most of you will live to be in your 80s and possibly 90s with the advances in science and medicine (not me, though, I have medical issues now and I'll be lucky to make it to 70.)

The construction is going nice. I will be visiting NYC within the next month or so, so I'll see it for myself.

A really nice shot by Sherpa, WNY, 7-10-10. I was nervous about the blast walls, but I think they turned out about as nice as could be hoped for. I wish the lobby floor could be more open, but oh well...

http://wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=9907&d=1278781623

Another shot by Sherpa, showing the new steel on the top.

http://wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=9908&d=1278781628

seems like another ignorant American thinking they're in the middle of the attention. You forgot that China has 1.3 billion people. That alone is 1 billion more than all of US Americans dreaming about a propaganda building that's still a hole underground after 9 years.

http://wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=9858&d=1278466290

Ladies and gentlemen, the new definition of the word "hole".

It's true that there are many fantastic skyscrapers going up in China. But here, on this thread? We're discussing the World Trade Center, in New York City. It's rather nice.

Excellent progress, btw. I'm excited to see the next steel section erected.

It's visible from the Empire State Building now...Barely but visible...:)

omegachopstick really got u americans, u guys get offended so easly lol, even though that guy is an ass hole :lol:

You may want to re-read those responses. I don't think any of us were even close to offended. :)

Moving on. Does anyone know how the cost of the entire 'new' WTC complex compares to the old one? I've been curious about this for a while.

You may want to re-read those responses. I don't think any of us were even close to offended. :)

Moving on. Does anyone know how the cost of the entire 'new' WTC complex compares to the old one? I've been curious about this for a while.

I believe the old one was $800 million in 1973 dollars, not including 7WTC or the Vista International Hotel which were added later.

Yeah, well I meant like a direct comparison of both fully completed projects adjusted for inflation.

According to the Skyscraper Museum, the estimated cost of the entire development was $1.5 billion. http://www.skyscraper.org/TALLEST_TOWERS/t_wtc.htm

Which, using this CPI calculator, http://www.govspot.com/ask/inflation.htm, adjusted as "1975 dollars", places the cost of the original at over $6 billion today.

Thanks! Those websites will come in handy some day. Does anyone know where I can find the cost figures for the current complex?

With all these extra terroist prevention measures like blast walls and extra thick concrete, is there any room left for offices?

The blast walls are to protect the lobby and emergency stairs from truck bombs.

The office floors are protected from truck bombs by being 186 feet above street level.

seems like another ignorant American thinking they're in the middle of the attention. You forgot that China has 1.3 billion people. That alone is 1 billion more than all of US Americans dreaming about a propaganda building that's still a hole underground after 9 years.

You mean the Shanghai Tower? That's one mean hole.

Did you know the Empire State building only costed 900.000 dollars, while the building that was there before costed 24 million to be demolished. Considering this one probably costs more than a billion it would be impossible to pay the demolishment if it had the same ratio...

Did you know the Empire State building only costed 900.000 dollars, while the building that was there before costed 24 million to be demolished. Considering this one probably costs more than a billion it would be impossible to pay the demolishment if it had the same ratio...

Don't give the government some brand new ideas on how to 'demolish' the building.

Did you know the Empire State building only costed 900.000 dollars, while the building that was there before costed 24 million to be demolished. Considering this one probably costs more than a billion it would be impossible to pay the demolishment if it had the same ratio...You could always just fly a few planes into it... jk jk

Did you know the Empire State building only costed 900.000 dollars, while the building that was there before costed 24 million to be demolished. Considering this one probably costs more than a billion it would be impossible to pay the demolishment if it had the same ratio...

Demolishment techniques today are much more advanced- how could they even demolish a structure 80 years ago in the middle of the city? They probably had to disassemble it- piece by piece.

You could always just fly a few planes into it... jk jk

yeah that was so funny I forgot to laugh. What side of the moon do you come from.

Demolishment techniques today are much more advanced- how could they even demolish a structure 80 years ago in the middle of the city? They probably had to disassemble it- piece by piece.

that's deconstruction for you.

Nice video about visualisations and planning of the complex and One WTC tower...At 3:20 and 3:50 minute it's part where we can see nice stuff about the core, floors and the facade of the One WTC...:)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dO4kvzdByiQ

http://www.lowermanhattan.info/construction/project_updates/freedom_tower_26204.aspx

*The following information was last updated on July 10, 2010.

* Steel and concrete installation (multiple cranes on site). Tower steel is now above floor 28
* Both the south and north cores are now being erected as the structure rises
* "Cocoon" safety system now in place around upper perimeter, to rise with structure
* Final concrete installation on the sub-grade structure, including the surrounding plaza
* Utility installation and tie-ins
* Crews are coordinating substructure construction while maintaining PATH service

RGZ is down, Earthcam is down...Nice.. -.-'

by the time this so called "freedom tower" is finished (if it ever will), China will have a hundred more buildings taller than this one.

So what.

So what.

Well, actually, China won't have a single building taller than One World Trade Center at the time of it's scheduled completion. Just to point that out.

Did you know the Empire State building only costed 900.000 dollars, while the building that was there before costed 24 million to be demolished. Considering this one probably costs more than a billion it would be impossible to pay the demolishment if it had the same ratio...


really?..what,is a building made it with paper?..that's impossible!,too many cheap for a building like that.

really?..what,is a building made it with paper?..that's impossible!,too many cheap for a building like that.

Consider the year it was built.

omegachopstick really got u americans, u guys get offended so easly lol, even though that guy is an ass hole :lol:

His ignorant comments did not bother me ... China will never have an Empire State Building, Chrysler Building, Reliance Building, Monadnock Block, nor a single masterpiece by Frank Furness, H.H. Richardson, Frank Lloyd Wright, Mies van der Rohe, Philip Johnson, Walter Gropius, Louis I. Kahn, Stanford White, etc. etc. Never.

On the other hand there will never be a Great Wall of China or a Forbidden City or the terra cotta army in the US.

So, who cares?!

That China is building a lot of tall buildings speaks volumes to me about a certain lack of confidence Chinese men have about ... ahem ... a lack of impressiveness about a certain physical attribute; so they build big buildings instead!!!! :lol:

really?..what,is a building made it with paper?..that's impossible!,too many cheap for a building like that.

Inflation is a wonderful thing, isn't it?

By this time next year it should hopefully make a big impact on the downtown skyline. :D

About 5 seconds of research will tell you that the Empire State building cost $25 million to build plus $15 million to buy and clear the lot. Average wage was 65¢ and hour and minimum wage was 25¢.
I'm not sure why so many people are so willing to take such an obvious moron seriously.

aaaaa que edificio!

this baby has some real height about it finally!

25 Million in 1930 or whatever it was (especially considering it was on the back end of the depression) was a shitload of money by today's standards!

Considering you could get a milkshake for a penny during the great depression, definitely.

$25 million in 1930 money is the same as $313,879,360.47 in 2010 money, so yeah its alot of money!!!

RGZ is down, Earthcam is down...Nice.. -.-'
Earthcam is up again!

The granite for the walls of the memorial is almost finished. Will the entire bottom be granite also?

1WTC core steel is up and I see two vertical columns for the next two floors installed. I wonder if these two will take two weeks.

The speed is for now average to the speed of the first few floors..(before blue cacoon)...We'll see if they speedin' up after they "put up" those 2 floors...:) Usually takes 3 and a half weeks to construct outer layer and connect it to the core steel...I wonder if they can do it faster now..:)

I see new beams at the north, south and east side, and trucks down at the tower, so looks like a good sign of speedin' up..

Hello, can someone tell me what the current hight is for this structure?

my house has larger width than this.

you must live in a 10,000 square foot mansion then.......

Hello, can someone tell me what the current hight is for this structure?

102 meter by my count :)

my house has larger width than this.

Good one. Your house probably isn't even as wide as the blast wall they just put in.

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my house has larger width than this.


200 feet x 200 feet = 40,000 sq feet

my house has larger width than this.

I'm guessing then that your house has a larger width also with respect to the Shanghai World Financial Center (for example), since it has a 58x58 m floor plan, that would be 190.3 x 190.3 ft (feet). That is, 10 feet smaller than the freedom tower per side. Took this tower for the comparison since it was accused many times of looking "too fat".

omegachopstick really got u americans, u guys get offended so easly lol, even though that guy is an ass hole :lol:

the whole country was seething.

And just for further clarity :)

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nice up date picture...

Earthcam is down...Again...:gaah::cripes:

And just for further clarity :)

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And which is the status of those one?

I wish some of these would look at tower 3 and 2!
NYPOST.com

Bank of New York Mellon is considering a complex, three-way real estate maneuver that would include moving part of its operations to 1 World Trade Center and selling its historic Art Deco headquarters tower at 1 Wall St., sources said.

Under the scenario now being explored, the bank -- which started life in 1784 as New York Post founder Alexander Hamilton's Bank of New York -- would take 450,000 square-feet at 1 WTC, the 1,776-foot tower the Port Authority is building at Ground Zero.

It would move the rest of its New York workforce to another building it owns, 101 Barclay St. -- a 1983 structure with 1.2 million square-feet more suited to modern office use than 1 Wall St., an Art Deco masterpiece on the corner of Broadway that opened in 1930.

Insiders confirmed that BNY Mellon has expressed interest to the PA regarding 1 WTC, but was told to hold off until the PA completes a prospective partnership deal with Douglas Durst.

Under the tentative arrangement announced last week, the Durst Organization would pay about $100 million for rights to market, lease and manage the $3.3 billion tower that's now impressively rising. Durst and the PA have about three weeks to nail down final terms.

Sources emphasized that the BNY Mellon scenario is merely in the talking stage -- "but it's a very plausible idea," a downtown insider said. "All of a sudden, with Durst involved, 1 World Trade looks like a hot commodity."

In fact, it's to the often-sluggish PA's credit that it chose so experienced and nimble a partner from an impressive field that also included Related Cos. and Boston Properties.

However preliminary BNY Mellon's thinking is regarding 1 WTC, it sounds at least as substantial as Condé Nast's alleged interest in moving there when its lease is up at Durst's 4 Times Sq. in 2019.

The landmarked 1 Wall St. is a logical candidate for residential conversion, with spectacular views up to 50 floors. It has more open views than the old AIG building at 70 Pine St., which AIG recently sold to a developer planning to convert part of the tower to apartments.

The bank did not immediately respond to a telephone message seeking comment.

Jones Lang LaSalle President Peter Riguardi, who is BNY Mellon's real estate broker and also an advisor to the PA, declined to comment, other than to say: "It's terrific that the Port under [Executive Director] Chris Ward's direction was able to come to its decision to bring in Durst from among a half-dozen great choices. It shows how much people think of this site."

The PA declined to comment on the BNY Mellon talks. Douglas Durst -- developer of 1 Bryant Park/Bank of America Tower -- would say only, "We are thrilled to be involved with 1 World Trade."

Cushman & Wakefield vice-chairman Tara Stacom, leader of a Cushman team hired by the PA in 2007 as 1 WTC's leasing agent, wouldn't say anything specific about the bank either. But she noted, "I'd say every large tenant out in the market is looking at 1 WTC, as they are at other large-block availabilities."

Stacom pointed out that besides architect David Childs' iconic design, 1 WTC's attractions include a rich array of government-sponsored economic incentives.

In fact, there might be room for both Condé Nast and BNY Mellon at 1 WTC, which will have 2.6 million square-feet of office space.

A mere 190,000 square-feet have been pre-leased to China's Beijing Vantone.

Although 1 million square-feet more is often said to be "leased" to the federal General Services Administration and the state Offices of General Services, neither deal has been completed years after they were first announced.

Why they aren't done yet is a mystery none of the participants would discuss.

Another question is Cushman's continued role at the project if the deal is signed with Durst -- who has often done leasing in-house or through CB Richard Ellis.

But Stacom pointed out that Cushman had supported the PA in its quest to bring in a partner, and was actively in volved in the agency's on going negotiations with Durst.

"Our expectation is that Cushman will be partners with the Dursts moving forward. But right now, we're all concentrating on completing the term sheet with them," she said.



Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/business/realestate/commercial/bny_mellon_eyeing_wtc_CoUFVUOeCqBSElPxUcWGqL?CMP=OTC-rss&FEEDNAME=#ixzz0ta2avADX

It's getting HUGE!! :D Loving it!

Are they working the facade on the base?? I like that detail...

Are they working the facade on the base?? I like that detail...

unless u seen something they are not working on the facade i think the pa would have announced something

Even just the steel frame work on this building is kind of sexy. Cant wait till it finished! :lol:

^^ it's nearing of 100 meter, Is this right?....

^^ yes! and i just read an article saying instead of the family members coming to ground zero to read the name or be there on 9/11 they will be in a park a little bit south of the site and some family members will not be allowed to read the family members names it will be the people who are rebuilding the site and soem family members

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Ground+Zero+near+NY&sll=37.926868,-95.712891&sspn=49.136374,78.837891&ie=UTF8&hq=Ground+Zero&hnear=New+York&ll=40.712309,-74.012103&spn=0.003025,0.006845&t=f&z=18&ecpose=40.7089417,-74.01218925,197.84,1.103,60.19,0

1WTC looks right on the money, but I think it's time to add the memorial over the path station.

And which is the status of those one?

completed the WFC was finish in the 80's

Like Jay-Z says: Long Live the World Trade!

Isnt cladding supposed to start going up when this thing hits the 50th floor or so?

By Morrongiello, 7-13-10.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4094/4790860893_066e9cde19_b.jpg

http://www.flickr.com/photos/morrongiello/

Corner steel is getting huge!

those are the picture, I've been waiting for. I don't know why, since I can go down there and see it.

those are the picture, I've been waiting for. I don't know why, since I can go down there and see it.

You're lucky. If I lived in NYC I'd go to the WTC site a couple times a week!

The WTC towers will be looming over this beautiful site before we know it!

http://a.imageshack.us/img641/354/hrp23.jpg
Zimpy

:banana: i wonder how long this floor will take? Hopefully we will be able to see a constant speed starting!

By Morrongiello, 7-13-10.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4094/4790860893_066e9cde19_b.jpg

http://www.flickr.com/photos/morrongiello/

...won't be much longer before the photographers won't be able to get the entire building in the frame!:banana:

Corner nodes are finally separated :banana:

^^ the blast wall looks massive.

Some bad weather in the NY today, but steel keep coming...:)