Still no sign of that third crane. =\

great update...

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Ground+Zero+near+NY&sll=37.926868,-95.712891&sspn=49.136374,78.837891&ie=UTF8&hq=Ground+Zero&hnear=New+York&ll=40.712309,-74.012103&spn=0.003025,0.006845&t=f&z=18&ecpose=40.7089417,-74.01218925,197.84,1.103,60.19,0

1WTC looks right on the money, but I think it's time to add the memorial over the path station.

if you go on bing map and do a bird eye view you can see the core and core steel with the north memorial pool half done in steel

The WTC towers will be looming over this beautiful site before we know it!

http://a.imageshack.us/img641/354/hrp23.jpg
Zimpy

It would look like this :)
http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/354/hrp23.jpg

It would look like this :)
http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/354/hrp23.jpg

2 and three should be a lil taller but thats about it :D

18th-Century Ship Found at Trade Center Site

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2010/07/14/nyregion/14ship8/14ship8-blogSpan.jpg

http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/07/14/18th-century-ship-found-at-trade-center-site/?WT.mc_id=NY-SM-E-FB-SM-LIN-ECS-071410-NYT-NA&WT.mc_ev=clicka
(http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/07/14/18th-century-ship-found-at-trade-center-site/?WT.mc_id=NY-SM-E-FB-SM-LIN-ECS-071410-NYT-NA&WT.mc_ev=clicka)

WOW!

You would not expect that here, far from the river and so deep.

18th-Century Ship Found at Trade Center Site

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2010/07/14/nyregion/14ship8/14ship8-blogSpan.jpg

http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/07/14/18th-century-ship-found-at-trade-center-site/?WT.mc_id=NY-SM-E-FB-SM-LIN-ECS-071410-NYT-NA&WT.mc_ev=clicka
(http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/07/14/18th-century-ship-found-at-trade-center-site/?WT.mc_id=NY-SM-E-FB-SM-LIN-ECS-071410-NYT-NA&WT.mc_ev=clicka)

WOW!

Why was this just found now and not back when the towers were originally constructed?

some cool areal shots...

Pasa la vida (http://www.flickr.com/photos/46999807@N03/)

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4114/4793321752_33d3304092_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4101/4793320648_0c056334a9_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4082/4792685355_36b5b31972_b.jpg

Why was this just found now and not back when the towers were originally constructed?

The old WTC didn't stand here of course and maybe the buildings that stood here didn't have such deep foundations?

Why was this just found now and not back when the towers were originally constructed?


The area under excavation, between Liberty and Cedar Streets, had not been dug out for the original trade center. The vessel, presumably dating from the mid- to late 1700s, was evidently undisturbed more than 200 years. ..

WTC Complex is on artificial land, back then it was underwater.

^^ That is actually very interesting! Would somebody post some links on the subject of manhattan land expansion trough centuries, with maps and stuff like that? I spent some time looking after this, but gave up with no results, but would love to read about this... Thanks in advance!

Wow in those areal pictures you can see how small Mathattan actually is.

^^ That is actually very interesting! Would somebody post some links on the subject of manhattan land expansion trough centuries, with maps and stuff like that? I spent some time looking after this, but gave up with no results, but would love to read about this... Thanks in advance!

Yeah, I would want to see those too..Looks like WTC site is on very interesting location...First the cave at WTC4, now this and who knows what else..:)

18th-Century Ship Found at Trade Center Site

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2010/07/14/nyregion/14ship8/14ship8-blogSpan.jpg

http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/07/14/18th-century-ship-found-at-trade-center-site/?WT.mc_id=NY-SM-E-FB-SM-LIN-ECS-071410-NYT-NA&WT.mc_ev=clicka
(http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/07/14/18th-century-ship-found-at-trade-center-site/?WT.mc_id=NY-SM-E-FB-SM-LIN-ECS-071410-NYT-NA&WT.mc_ev=clicka)

WOW!
wow! thats so weird.

Wow! Awesome pictures, HK999!

Look at this picture, a computer rendering created based on years of research. This was Manhattan before colonization, commerce and development
http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/7781/manahattasplitskymodifi.jpg
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http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/7706/manahattaisland.jpg
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http://www.pousta.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/manhattan.jpg

^^ Wow, great find! I know its a bit offtopic, but... I want more :D

Do you have more pics of this reconstruction?

^^ Wow, great find! I know its a bit offtopic, but... I want more :D

Have a read of this very interesting article (where those pictures originate)

http://www.dec.ny.gov/pubs/57575.html

I wouldn't consider it as a Spoiler, but I believe that you will enjoy this (the end of Gangs of New York). In relation with previous posts.

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http://www.metropolismag.com/pov/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/8347_largearticlephoto.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_rm7rHiV5pVQ/SrJujvVUyBI/AAAAAAAACk8/sPONI-N0Hwg/s400/mannahatta.jpg

july, 15th

GreenwichBoy, WNY:

http://wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=9960&d=1279200314

http://wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=9959&d=1279200308

I'm sensing some true verticality on the western face there. It will be pretty noticeable when the cocoon moves all the way up. :)

Have a read of this very interesting article (where those pictures originate)

http://www.dec.ny.gov/pubs/57575.html


Can we open a Thread somewhere about this? I'm really interested in this but this is kinda not a right place for this...:)

So it might be a Dutch ship? :D

^^ Who knows! That's up to the archeologists to discover.:lol:
Seeing the render Manhattan before the colonization is quite impressive definitely when you compare it to modern Manhattan.
I didn't know that there was so much land reclamation, hmm... talking about Dutch influence.;)
On topic: I finally get the feeling that the construction of tower one is speeding up.
The chamfered corners are getting more and more noticeable.

For your curiosity, that new is at this moment at top page at www.elmundo.es, the most viewed newspaper of the net in spanish.

http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/6138/clipboard02zg.jpg

By the way, the second new says "Clamor contra la entrevista de Zapatero y Kagame sobre Derechos Humanos", or "Clamor against the interview between Zapatero and Kagame about the Human Rights". Kagame is someone from Africa, but in spanish it sounds "Shit on me" :crazy: :lol:

Maybe it's a set-up?, just a lame excuse for another delay?..lol

just joking ;)

I won't joke about that: in Rome every single project get delayed becuase of archeological issues :bash:

I won't joke about that: in Rome every single project get delayed becuase of archeological issues :bash:

Considering the age of United States they must be very happy when they find something... and RealVooDoo, in cities like Rome you must do that way. I read that excavating near the Colosseum to make the subway archeologists found a sculpture of a horse, the only one of the Colosseum found. You must live with that, and be proud.

The first city plenty of skyscrapers was the classic Rome, although nobody knows that. It was the New York of the first century.

Edit: I have listened in a spanish radio a spanish foreign correspondent that lives in New York, speaking about this ship and saying something about Gangs of New York and archeology in Rome... I swear is truth :crazy:

hahahahaha, the spanish journalists read SSC! :banana:

Awesome! And great progress since last time i checked!

wow, what a great find :banana:

the workers there r really working quickly and accurately :D

thats really the hot stuff :applause:

hahahahaha, the spanish journalists read SSC! :banana:
LOL

Wow in those areal pictures you can see how small Mathattan actually is.

Are you shi**ing me. Try walking from wall street to the central park. Don't forget to pack a lunch.

Are you shi**ing me. Try walking from wall street to the central park. Don't forget to pack a lunch.

I've done that and I didn't need lunch. Manhattan really isn't that big.

By a quick glance at Google maps it looks like a trip of about eight kilometers, pretty much the distance from where I live to the city center of Oldenburg, which I have walked before - took me about one and a half hours last time if I recall correctly. I don't think I'm hyporexic enough to be unable to go 90 minutes without a lunch. ;)

Manhattan as a city center is massive but its not big compared to sprawls but if you go all the way from staten island to the end of the bronx then thats massive

Manhattan, I believe, is smaller in square miles than the city of Baltimore. It may be long north to south, but it is quite narrow.

The discovery of the boat is similar to something that happened here when the Gallery at Harborplace was built. A pier, dating to the late 1600's, was unearthed at where is now 2 blocks inland.

Manhattan, I believe, is smaller in square miles than the city of Baltimore. It may be long north to south, but it is quite narrow.

The discovery of the boat is similar to something that happened here when the Gallery at Harborplace was built. A pier, dating to the late 1600's, was unearthed at where is now 2 blocks inland.

Picking on poor lil 23 sq mile Manhattan. How big is Baltimore compare to Queens hmmm.

Manhattan is the second smallest borough I believe. It looks small on those pictures because they're downtown pics, and that is, along with the northern tip of the island, the smallest of width. Walking in Manhattan can be tiring, cause while it's not wide, it's quite a long island.

And great progress. I can't wait for this to give impact on the downtown area. I do agree that the downtown looks relatively "flat" and "small" without WTC, but I'm sure this tower will more than make up for it

Picking on poor lil 23 sq mile Manhattan. How big is Baltimore compare to Queens hmmm.
typical new yorker, getting competitive over square milage now? :nuts: :)

The natural history of NYC amazes me, how it went from wilderness to the huge skyline of today in much less than half a centurary. makes you wonder how it will look in another 500 years? the show "life after people" gets the imagination running.

This site is moving along nicely now, I can't wait to see it when i'm there next Summer. I imagine 1WTC is much larger IRL than what it looks in some of these images. Will probably be 800+ feet tall and half clad by next June too!

A good look at the future of NYC would be a brief scene in the the movie The 5th Element. Check out the scene where the space plane takes off and look for the Statue of Liberty! It's awesome.

Pause this video at 4 seconds

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aB-AUTGqUCU

^^ oh yeah, that's pretty cool. the statue of liberty looks like an ancient relic in that shot. certainly wont be around to see those times.

A good look at the future of NYC would be a brief scene in the the movie The 5th Element. Check out the scene where the space plane takes off and look for the Statue of Liberty! It's awesome.

Pause this video at 4 seconds

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aB-AUTGqUCU

Pause it at 9 seconds and tell me if you notice a former world's tallest that was situated near the WTC site. :P

maybe some one can do photos from inside the tower?

That new crane is coming. New updates provided by the port authority.
http://www.panynj.gov/wtcprogress/pdf/June2010-WTC-Progress-Newsletter.pdf
World Trade Center Progress
June 2010
One WTC Update
Built With Their Hands

• The innovative “cocoon” system, a safety feature
that protects the workers and public at
ground level from materials that may accidentally
fall from construction floors, envelopes the
building on all four sides.

• More than 6,000 pieces of superstructure steel
have been installed to date. Concrete work has
significantly accelerated.• The number of workers laboring daily to build
the tower, already in the hundreds, is increasing
as more trades are mobilized.

• Preparation is under way for material hoists to
the top of the tower. Large elevators will be installed
on the east and west sides of the building;
some will carry workers to the top, while others
will be reserved for materials and equipment.

• Fuel cells will be delivered to the site in early
summer. Fuel cells are essentially boxes that take
liquid natural gas and, through a chemical reaction,
release electricity and heat (for hot water)
that will be used in the finished building.

• A new climbing crawler crane is scheduled to
arrive over the summer.

Hope this won't delay construction work too much: Pieces of ship made in 1700s found at ground zero building site (http://edition.cnn.com/2010/US/07/15/new.york.ground.zero.ship/?hpt=C1&fbid=LojI48BqSLh).

LOL, do a Google search for "climbing crawler crane ". 2 hits ! The PA website and SSP.

OK, 3 hits, this forum is the third.

Someone at the PA has no idea what they are typing about. I'm pretty sure they are referring to an external climbing crane, something like the two tower cranes but designed to climb the outside of the structure.

http://www.nps.gov/jeff/planyourvisi...hslideshow.gif

^^ I agree Bob, that's exactly what I said to myself...this site might be full of other treasures and is very likely to be hollowed for days before construction works resume, a bit like with 20 Fenchurch Street in London...:cripes:

Yesterdays news.. Check all the way back to the previous page.. ^^

The PA retained a company to remove, record and preserve anything found during construction. This very interesting find well not slow things down.

PS: A Budwiser can from 1967 doesn't count.

By GreenwichBoy, WNY.

http://wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=10020&d=1279338995

http://wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=10025&d=1279377620

http://wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=10024&d=1279377616

Wow that steel went up fast. Might be a new record

They should build the roof to 1776 feet, and the spire should go another 155 feet or whatever the measure is, to denote the year the ESB was built. Prolly too late to change anything now. :p

- A

it would have been better, if you said the year the twin tower where built 1971. ESB was 1931

maybe some one can do photos from inside the tower?

I have a connection, one of the head engineers of the complex. Next time I'm in New York, I'll see if he can get me onsite, maybe even in the tower itself. I'll definitely make sure to bring my camera if that happens.

In the meantime, they've added quite a bit of steel since I was last here. The tower's really starting to pick up the pace. I wouldn't be surprised if they were only a few floors behind their timeline for the year when 2011 starts (if that makes sense).

I have a connection, one of the head engineers of the complex. Next time I'm in New York, I'll see if he can get me onsite, maybe even in the tower itself. I'll definitely make sure to bring my camera if that happens.

Just make sure you keep that camera hidden. The Port Authority strictly forbids unauthorized photography from inside the site and will probably confiscate your camera if they catch you.

Just make sure you keep that camera hidden. The Port Authority strictly forbids unauthorized photography from inside the site and will probably confiscate your camera if they catch you.

Duly noted. I'd have to remember to bring my Coolpix to the site instead of my DSLR. I can understand why they don't want cameras on site: security, etc.

RKOwens why is that your first post. Anyway good luck to anyone, trying to get pictures of the inside you'll need it.

RKOwens why is that your first post. Anyway good luck to anyone, trying to get pictures of the inside you'll need it.

Ah, I'm a quarter Irish! I got luck in me veins. :D Luckily, I have some experience getting stuff past security and sneaking cameras places, so it wouldn't be too hard. Just don't expect any masterpieces since they'd most likely be shot through a hole in my jacket pocket.

I'll remember that you crazy outlaw from another planet LOL

it would have been better, if you said the year the twin tower where built 1971. ESB was 1931

Maybe in your opinion, since ESB will no longer carry the title, however i think the spire would be too tall for 1971, 195 feet, would throw off the visual balance of the building a bit.

- A

You do understand its being built to replace the twin towers not ESB. And the height is perfect where it is, that my opinion. If they build a new ESB then it can be 1931 feet tall.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4013/4719573450_5b535a9aac_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/chuckiez/4719573450/sizes/l/in/pool-35034350743@N01/

^^ That pic was posted a while back, still fantastic though.

LOL I thought it had been posted!!

Here's one from yesterday!

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4073/4802213852_5e995bab72_b_d.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/roccocell/

great update

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4013/4719573450_5b535a9aac_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/chuckiez/4719573450/sizes/l/in/pool-35034350743@N01/

Such a professional looking skyline. Will look even sleeker when the WTC is up.

Are you shi**ing me. Try walking from wall street to the central park. Don't forget to pack a lunch.

I've done that and I didn't need lunch. Manhattan really isn't that big.

My uncles apartment is on Gold Street just steps away from where the new Beekman Tower is going up ... when I was younger (and stronger) I would walk from there to the Metropolitan Museum of Art. My friends and I used to walk from Christopher Street in Greenwich Village to the Upper East Side all the time.

My uncles apartment is on Gold Street just steps away from where the new Beekman Tower is going up ... when I was younger (and stronger) I would walk from there to the Metropolitan Museum of Art. My friends and I used to walk from Christopher Street in Greenwich Village to the Upper East Side all the time.

It's not impossible, but it's not exactly an easy walk, either. That's almost four miles on foot.

Such a professional looking skyline. Will look even sleeker when the WTC is up.


wow!,i love this picture!..looks awesome!

just found this...

Longfellow Fam (http://www.flickr.com/photos/longfellowfam/)

View from American Express Building

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4138/4806893574_7be266e577_b.jpg

It's moving, dare I say, fast?
Never thought I'd say that. :D

nice panorama of NY...

Maybe this isn`t the right place to ask but I read that they want to build a mosque on Ground Zero with 15 fl. I cant believe that they would do that and were will it be build? I see no location were such building could stand.

Maybe this isn`t the right place to ask but I read that they want to build a mosque on Ground Zero with 15 fl. I cant believe that they would do that and were will it be build? I see no location were such building could stand.It isn't on the wtc site its a blocks away

For the nth time, when are gonna fix this thing? The tower is rising but it's been like that ever since.:ohno:

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs174.snc4/38023_1425977661434_1592567776_953460_8118209_n.jpg

For the nth time, when are gonna fix this thing? The tower is rising but it's been like that ever since.:ohno:


WOW! Good thing you pointed that out!! I bet they had forgotten about it.

:nuts:

Yeah I mentioned about that on this thread a while ago too. I think they didn't notice or forgot about it. Can anyone please inform any construction workers on that site about that?

You guys are clueless.

been a month
diagram update
now 100m high. 1/5th way up!

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4139/4810555680_6247c0c316_o.jpg

just found this...

Longfellow Fam (http://www.flickr.com/photos/longfellowfam/)

View from American Express Building

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4138/4806893574_7be266e577_b.jpg

I wonder why we don't get more shots like this? C'mon Amex employees! Do your duty!!


____________________________________________

^^ PS: Awesome work CUL!! :)

Excellent panoramic!! ;)

In Cul diagram. tower 4 looks like the love child of ESB and CN tower.

Very beautiful updates ! thx !

Yeah, the tower is growing faster and faster. :cheers1:
Thanks for the updates.

I wonder why we don't get more shots like this? C'mon Amex employees! Do your duty!!
I see some more buildings filled with employees from even more companies, some of them should be reading this thread. So if you are one of them, hint hint hint camera hint hint camera hint.

By Morrongiello, 7-20-10.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4076/4813403040_1d60791c19_b.jpg

http://www.flickr.com/photos/morrongiello/

^^

Is that a Fata Morgana or do I actually see a 3rd crane arriving on the site?
:eek2:

They've started installing the roof arches for the path hall!
http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/9369/wtcpathhallarches.jpg

Keep it coming!

^^

Is that a Fata Morgana or do I actually see a 3rd crane arriving on the site?
:eek2:

If you mean the crane on Vesey St, thats been there for months.

Nice photos from SSP by Bucktown718


http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4140/4804567471_2b532b5043_b.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4120/4802203932_3ab9ce8953_b.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4134/4805545438_90d897d74b_b.jpg
mudpig (http://www.flickr.com/photos/yukonblizzard/)

WoW it looks great; has anyone posted a plan? Those two squares what will they be? Oh those are the original foundations. They'll be pools nice.
I was at the memorial the year before last we couldn't get that close and the police kept everyone moving. That was the year the banks defaulted. I remember being on Wall st the day Lehmans Bros collapsed. We went up the Empire state where I spotted the presidential cavalcade going past below I pointed the tiny row of cop cars out and everyone got vertigo: except me. Strange to see all those cop cars like small toys all the way down there: just didn't seem real somehow. I look forward to visiting again and perhaps go up the new WTC. NY's buildings were awe inspiring.

Floor 30 is done, cranes jumped today...Now let's see if they can start new floors before weekend..:)

they're going to have to raise the webcam soon.

very nice up date photo...

Cool night shot ! Starting to be notorious...

peoples' camera lens' will have to be pointing further upwards soon!

Beautiful building in the most beautiful city in the World!!!!!!

great up date :)

looks like they starting to set up a base for a third tower crane (east side of a tower).

Wow I love the photos Bucktown 718

Love that pictures!

awesome updates!

By Morrongiello, 7-20-10.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4076/4813403040_1d60791c19_b.jpg

http://www.flickr.com/photos/morrongiello/

At least some progress is made!

I hope it is ready (the tower) not the hole WTC site on 11/09/2011, you now what i mean...

I think at this rate the completion date for WTC (all the towers and memorial) is 2013 hopefully end 2012.

From Downtown Express, our first real ideal of what the inside of the lobby will look like, unbelievable...

http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/2571/1wtclobby.jpg

http://www.downtownexpress.com/de_377/constructionof.html

^^

It's absolutely massive! I grossly underestimated just how much concrete work there was to do in the lobby and ground floor in general... wow. Considering the slow start, the progress is actually impressive. So much is being done simultaneously, that construction site must be like a beehive!

looks like they starting to set up a base for a third tower crane (east side of a tower).

It's a hoist tower just like the one on the west side.

what can I say.. it seems just so impressively gorgeous... such a massive project will redefine NYC as we know it today, I really love it!

Absolutely massive!!!!

IMO, one has to visit the site to realise HOW big it is! I was overwhelmed by the size.

Man, this tower will be unbreakable...:)

Thank you for the photos to everyone in New York, Bucktown your pictures are wonderful - would be great for regular updates, we're all watching closely from London! Big Love!!

is the footprint of this building as big as the original wtc towers?

is the footprint of this building as big as the original wtc towers?

Basically. The original towers were 207'8" by 207'8". The new 1WTC is 205' by 205'.

Basically. The original towers were 207'8" by 207'8". The new 1WTC is 205' by 205'.I think it might even be a little wider much is the same because it gets narrower at the base

By GreenwichBoy, WNY, 7-22-10. 29th and 30th floors must have been the fastest yet.

http://wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=10064&d=1279847371

http://wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=10063&d=1279847356

These next floors (31-32) should make it about 350 feet tall. Awesome!

they r really working as a rock :okay:

looks like a tower already :)

Here's my model of the Freedom Tower under construction:

http://img830.imageshack.us/img830/6470/005j.jpg

And here's the Freedom Tower finished:

http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/6300/004b.jpg

Wow that inside view of the lobby looks amazing, I didn’t think it was that big. You guys are certainly getting one mother of a tower.

P.S. Great models Skyscapers144 :).

What will the nighttime lighting of this tower look like? The ESB has nice, changeable effects, so it would make sense if 1WTC did too. I'm not suggesting anything wild, but here's a new tower in Charlotte NC that blows my mind. I think you will either love it or hate it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tplx2CIuHfc&feature=related

[QUOTE=Skyscrapers144;60780963]Here's my model of the Freedom Tower under construction:

http://img830.imageshack.us/img830/6470/005j.jpg

nice cranes :lol: thanks Skyscrapers144

The lobby is going to be exclusively exceptional when completed.

Excellent progress!! :D

Thanks for the pics. I always knew this will be a very handsome building and a fine addition to the New York skyline.

I took a few pix form Jersey City , you can see it rising in the distance

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4119/4819906562_51b7fe0eb9_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4098/4819307223_d97c3ee8c0_b.jpg

Nexis, thanks for the New Jersey pics.....It gives a bit of idea from afar.....not too afar.......but outside New York this building is starting to show itself : )
........I remember back in 2007 sitting near the centre of your pics in Lower Manhattan on the Hudson River near the WTC site on a warm September evening looking across to New Jersey seeing an illuminated clock and fire works.......so I know your there : ).....from an Australian's perspective.....

Nice location. Now 1WTC is getting taller, pics from further out are becoming more interesting as it becomes a part of the skyline.

New core steel going up floors 31 and 32 going up this next week!
http://wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=10070&d=1279980975
Greenwichboy

^^

Excellent photo. They've really picked up the pace on construction

Was to be expected, now that they are no longer working on the part that's designed to withstand the moon crashing into the Earth.

They've got a shot at being around the 38th-40th floor by the next 9/11 anniversary.

Was to be expected, now that they are no longer working on the part that's designed to withstand the moon crashing into the Earth.

Actually, the street level platform over the PATH tunnel has to be as strong as possible, and it isn't complete yet, they simply completed it enough to allow things around the site to speed up a bit.

- A

^^

Is that the portion that contains the beautiful white Calatrava arches?

[QUOTE=Skyscrapers144;60780963]Here's my model of the Freedom Tower under construction:

http://img830.imageshack.us/img830/6470/005j.jpg

nice cranes :lol: thanks Skyscrapers144
Thanks, lol.

Find 1WTC in the pic..:)

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What a panorama! The Brooklyn Bridge, the Manhattan Bridge, and the Williamsburg Bridge ... :banana:

Excellent Panoramic :drool:

Wow! Awesome pano shot! Glad it is becoming visible from many parts of NYC area! :)

my god!.. Manhattan's skyline it's in N°1 place!.. maybe cities like Dubai or others are growin' up so fast, but Manhattan, well, is unique!

Such a wonderful snap shot of NYC.

I'm impressed, one of the best NYC pics I've ever seen :cheers:

I'm impressed, one of the best NYC pics I've ever seen :cheers:

What a panorama! The Brooklyn Bridge, the Manhattan Bridge, and the Williamsburg Bridge ... :banana:

Excellent Panoramic :drool:

Wow! Awesome pano shot! Glad it is becoming visible from many parts of NYC area! :)

my god!.. Manhattan's skyline it's in N°1 place!.. maybe cities like Dubai or others are growin' up so fast, but Manhattan, well, is unique!

Such a wonderful snap shot of NYC.

you guys need to visit other threads, i posted this pano a week ago in three threads ;).

- New York • Manhattan - USA , sykline section
- Beekman Tower, skyscraper section
- New York Panorama Pix, new york city section

thanks dino for posting it here, so more people can see this amzing pic. :)

:lol:

Was to be expected, now that they are no longer working on the part that's designed to withstand the moon crashing into the Earth.

I know humour is rarely appreciated on this thread, but that genuinely made me lol, thanks!

I'm impressed, one of the best NYC pics I've ever seen :cheers:

...definitely a different angle than I am used to seeing. A couple more supertalls in the midtown area would be nice, to go with the ESB! Too bad the weather wasn't clearer.

Here is my New WTC complex model:

http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/8759/dsc01550e.jpg

Anybody interested in making this New WTC complex model click here (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=907242).

Wow very well, I'm seeing almost half the WTC...

The engineer said, "it's time to grow this shit! C'mon guys!!"

Wow very well, I'm seeing almost half the WTC...

The engineer said, "it's time to grow this shit! C'mon guys!!"
lol :lol: and thanks!

Here is my New WTC complex model:

http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/8759/dsc01550e.jpg

Anybody interested in making this New WTC complex model click here (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=907242).

LOVIT!!!! <3

Thanks!!! ^^

What a great looking collection. I've only made a paper model of 7WTC. Those models are tougher to make than they look.

A suggestion, next make a model of the Museum Pavillion. The tridents would look really cool.

I have about 40 other skyscraper paper models from other countries including the Burj Dubai, Taipei 101, Bank of America Tower and more. Wanna see pics? P.S. Thanks and thanks for the suggestion. ^^^^

I have about 40 other skyscraper paper models from other countries including the Burj Dubai, Taipei 101, Bank of America Tower and more. Wanna see pics? P.S. Thanks and thanks for the suggestion. ^^^^

Dude, this is nice, but we talkin' about construction of 1WTC here...Can we go back on topic please? :) You can share your models on the creative corner section...Post link here and anyone interested will go there..:cheers:

I see 7 trucks with steel down at the site...This is serious speed now...

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That's an amazing picture!

Omg nothing but glass and steel and everything looks the same! What's up with that? No money for good architects?

I know i got off topic. Sorry. Btw yes the Freedom Tower is awesome. I seriously can't wait till 1WTC is done!!! 2013. :(


P.S. click here (http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/8315/dsc01887r.jpg) to see me whole collection.

Omg nothing but glass and steel and everything looks the same! What's up with that? No money for good architects?

Durr. The reason half the buildings on that pic look the same is because they're all part of the IFC. :ohno:

Durr. The reason half the buildings on that pic look the same is because they're all part of the IFC. :ohno:
IFC???? That's International Finance Center. Don't you mean WFC???? World Financial Center???

Yep. Sorry for the mix-up.

Wow nice pic!!!
go WTC!! :D

Omg nothing but glass and steel and everything looks the same! What's up with that? No money for good architects?

It all looks great to me. Maybe I should troll the "Supertalls of Poland" forum to gain perspective on good architecture!
lol

I see that they actually completed two floors in two weeks! The core steel for the next two levels is already up, and the perimeter columns too! AWESOME!

muito belas as fotos...

We are up to the 32nd floor!!
update from morrongiello

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By Morrongiello, 7-26-10

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wow.. That was really quick!

I guess from here the floor plans and the structure are less complex and it's just a matter of stacking floors. It should rise quickly. :cheers:

It's twice as fast as it was in april and may! Go on WTC! :banana:

Question: When do you expect them to change the "cocoon"? The gab between the corners and this blue thing gets bigger and bigger and at some point it will become useless.

2 floors in 2 weeks...:) This is that speed of floor per week that we were talkin' about before...

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nice update photo...

A neat view from Earthcam

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I can't find the earthcam.. I tried to go on it, but it says that its down or something

I can't find the earthcam.. I tried to go on it, but it says that its down or something

here it is (and working):

http://archives.earthcam.com/archives5/ecnetwork/us/ny/nyc/gzmpr/gzrobotic1.jpg

the site looks so neat from the earth cam at night, its as if they pack everything away before they clock off at the end of their shifts.

See how the base of 7WTC is all lit in blue? I wonder what the lighting plan is for 1WTC?

A neat view from Earthcam

Can I have link please? Looks like this is the only webcam where we can see current floor u/c...Other cams are fuc*** up a little bit...:)

RGZ is always down, HD Earthcam is on the Memorial, Live Earthcam is more on the 7WTC than on the 1WTC, and on WTCProgress cam we can see only east side of the tower...

An Amazing animation of the whole site...You gotta see this...:)

http://www.myfoxny.com/dpp/news/sept_11/world-trade-center-site-animation-20100726

It's twice as fast as it was in april and may! Go on WTC! :banana:

Question: When do you expect them to change the "cocoon"? The gab between the corners and this blue thing gets bigger and bigger and at some point it will become useless.

They won't...It's supposed to be the way it is now all the way to the top...:)

I don't get why you guys are all talking of the 32nd floor. Even when I count about three floors for the tall ground level, I only come up with about 22 floors. I know it's not an error on your part because the its' repeated in lots of posts by several forumers. What's going on?

I don't get why you guys are all talking of the 32nd floor. Even when I count about three floors for the tall ground level, I only come up with about 22 floors. I know it's not an error on your part because the its' repeated in lots of posts by several forumers. What's going on?

Top of the base is 20th floor...That's because the base is as tall as 20 story building...Then it's simple..21st, 22nd, 23rd...Till 32nd..Thats where they're now...Workin' on 31st and 32nd floor...:)

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^^
looks cool at night!!!!!!

Omg nothing but glass and steel and everything looks the same! What's up with that? No money for good architects?

What have you been smoking? These towers are designed by worldclass architects. 1WTC is definately one of the best towers U/C right now!

Maybe you're more into funny skyscrapers with twelve colors and strange things coming out of the facade. Then you should go to the Dubai section, they have tons of those over there (along with tons of great ones of course :))

Can I have link please? Looks like this is the only webcam where we can see current floor u/c...Other cams are fuc*** up a little bit...:)

RGZ is always down, HD Earthcam is on the Memorial, Live Earthcam is more on the 7WTC than on the 1WTC, and on WTCProgress cam we can see only east side of the tower...HD Earthcam was in that direction for a few minutes then it went back to the old position

Top of the base is 20th floor...That's because the base is as tall as 20 story building...Then it's simple..21st, 22nd, 23rd...Till 32nd..Thats where they're now...Workin' on 31st and 32nd floor...:)

The base is only as tall as a 20 story building if it has unfeasibly low height floors.

Way back on the thread someone quoted the actual floor height (for the regular office floors) as 13ft 4in, which seeing as the base is abot 200ft high gives... nothing like 20. I think 10 is probably much closer as it includes mech floors which will be taller.

20 is just a number someone in marketing thought would be good to start the office floors at. If this had gone up core-first then we'd be able to count doorways to get a real floor count, but as it is the PA marketing floor number is all we've got.

Here's an amazing video of the new WTC. It's amazing how green lower Manhattan is becoming. West Street as seen in the video and below will be a new tree and flower-lined boulevard, as will West Street.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIrMuokrGbQ&feature=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIrMuokrGbQ&feature=player_embedded

The newly landscaped West Street:

http://www.lowermanhattan.info/construction/gallery/photos/Promenade-South.jpg

http://www.lowermanhattan.info/construction/gallery/photos/Promenade-_South_9.jpg

http://www.lowermanhattan.info/construction/gallery/photos/Promenade-_South_8.jpg

Water Street -- BEFORE

http://www.downtownny.com/images/ba/A2A_Before.jpg

The new Water Street -- AFTER

http://www.downtownny.com/images/masthead.jpg

Another picture i took today form the WTC form Jersey City

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4126/4835617648_411cf86760_b.jpg

A great video from wtcprogress.com.

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July 27th, 2010

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Can't wait to see this rising from downtown Manhattan, it will be a masterpiece!

great up date photo

that youtube animation is sensational!

Excellent updates!! ;)

amazing update NYCD :)

This tread often lacks quality photos, but they were great. Many Thanks. Please keep it up.

From EarthCam:

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From EarthCam:



Damn, I missed it again...-.-'

The base is only as tall as a 20 story building if it has unfeasibly low height floors.

Way back on the thread someone quoted the actual floor height (for the regular office floors) as 13ft 4in, which seeing as the base is abot 200ft high gives... nothing like 20. I think 10 is probably much closer as it includes mech floors which will be taller.

20 is just a number someone in marketing thought would be good to start the office floors at. If this had gone up core-first then we'd be able to count doorways to get a real floor count, but as it is the PA marketing floor number is all we've got.

20 wasn't picked out of a hat. They're just measuring from the bottom of the building, which is 70 feet or so below ground level.

Great photos ! I think the new added steel was faster than the previous ones installed.

wow, i was waiting for that kind of updates, i mean, this moment of the construction.. thanks for sharing it!

20 wasn't picked out of a hat. They're just measuring from the bottom of the building, which is 70 feet or so below ground level.

Yeah, I thought that too - but it's not the case according to the PA.

To quote from their site: http://www.panynj.gov/wtcprogress/q-a-response-lynda-tollner2.html


The floor to ceiling height on floors 1 through 7 are larger than a typical building due to the large amount of heavy mechanical equipment being installed on these floors. Even though there are seven visible floors, when dividing the building's height (approximately 200 feet) by a typical floor height (10 feet), you get the equivalent of 20 floors. Moving forward, the ceiling heights will resemble a much more typical office building.



So they have used 200ft and a "typical" floor height of 10ft, but then the office floors will be "much more typical" at 13ft or so high. :dunno:

Amazing image contributions!

So they have used 200ft and a "typical" floor height of 10ft, but then the office floors will be "much more typical" at 13ft or so high. :dunno:


:lol: Sounds like someone was a little bit confused...I gues he/she meant typical residential floor at 10ft and typical office floor at 13ft?

Guys, this has been covered an absurd number of times over the course of this thread. The powers that be have decided the base is 20 stories tall, that's all there is to it. This has been confirmed by people who know what they're talking about.

So give it a rest already, right? I mean, who cares about the floor count that much (except of course for the diagram makers and people like Culwulla)?

Yeah, I thought that too - but it's not the case according to the PA.

To quote from their site: http://www.panynj.gov/wtcprogress/q-a-response-lynda-tollner2.html




So they have used 200ft and a "typical" floor height of 10ft, but then the office floors will be "much more typical" at 13ft or so high. :dunno:

There is only one floor count that matters !!!!!!!!!! The rest is just a number on an elevator button.

"Hey what floor are they putting up now !!!!???!!!!!":)

panynj

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:( looking at those pools in the shape of the original WTC footprints makes me sad..I was there when they fell.....

New York City already has a lot of incomparable and awe-inspiring spots.
(Despite the fact that this is the site of 9/11 tragedy) it will be another truly awesome and monumental spot in the city.
I can never get bored of NYC...

panynj

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:( looking at those pools in the shape of the original WTC footprints makes me sad..I was there when they fell.....

Do you think the memorial is any good? I think it has to be one of the more well designed & thought out memorials in recent times. We have a 9/11 memorial in my town for the people lost who lived in bucks county, pa. It's fairly simple and straightforward, but very well thought out and poignant. Water is involved with 2 identical fountains in a reflecting pool, and there are several pieces of the structural steel. I feel this "where it happened" memorial is like the large version of a lot of the smaller ones around the country.

1 wtc is a fitting modern tribute to the original wtc, even if the design and look of the building is radically different. You have the joy of those lives represented in the structures reaching for the sky, and the sorrow of those lives lost represented in the water falling into the basins.

Having lost friends that day, and being in a relationship with a woman who witnessed it across the river in nj, someone who's teacher opted out of sending her class to a college fair that morning at the wtc, seeing this building make so much progress after such a dry spell of any visible developments is very meaningful and i share in your pain, even though i did not see it unfold in person. I miss those buildings too, a lot, but progress is being made, and that is a good thing for me, and for others wanting that gaping wound healed.

- A

Here's a better look at the memorial:

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great video, too bad there wasn't any talk about 2 3 and 4 tower.

I believe when completed this will be one of the major tourist attractions in the world. When I say major I mean one of the top 10 visited places in the world.

Wow, love the transportation hub design and flow. The memorial museum also looks fantastic. I am getting emotional thinking about a future visit.

I wish there was a video like this of only 1WTC construction.

It's so great to see these three threads side by side in the supertall forum. :)

Great vid, thanks for sharing!

is this true?

The spire will be an intense beam of light that will be lit at night and will likely be visible over a thousand feet (305 m) into the air above the tower. New York City is a suitable place to set such a light pointing towards the sky without complaints of light pollution by astronomers, as the night sky in locations near New York City is already far too bright for serious astronomical observers.

http://www.tallestbuildingintheworld.com/building_id_109_Freedom+Tower+-+One+World+Trade+Center.php

if not, than what is the current plan for the lightning scheme?

It's so great to see these three threads side by side in the supertall forum. :)

And almost allways on top of the page..:)

awesome vid :happy:

I believe when completed this will be one of the major tourist attractions in the world. When I say major I mean one of the top 10 visited places in the world.

It already is a major tourist attraction because people from all over the world have already been coming here to see the site. The original World Trade Center had thousands of tourists a day so this one will have the same effect.

From the HK999 post above

"Cable-net facades on all four sides of the buildings, again designed by Schlaich Bergermann, measure 60 feet (18 m) high and range in width from 30 feet (9 m) on the east and west sides (for access to the restaurant and observation deck, respectively) to 50 feet (15 m) on the north side and 70 feet (21 m) on the south for primary tenant access, activate the building at street level."

Was this originally written in another language? I can't clearly figure out what it will look like based on this description. Cable-net facades?

It's so great to see these three threads side by side in the supertall forum. :)

Don't forget there are also threads for the transportation hub:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1119329

and for the memorial & museum:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1144445

in the General Urban Developments Section. So much progress here in the last weeks/months :)

Sorry kinda off topic but why is one of this threads tags fucking allah akbar

Great video, i'm sorry it seems to exclude 2 and 3 wtc, and what's up with the deutsche bank building, is 5 wtc going there, or is 5 wtc going to be the performing arts center or 6 or what?

I'm happy happy happy to hear the WTC transit hub will have retail, right now all that's there is a exposed-to-the-elements hudson news location.

- A

Sorry kinda off topic but why is one of this threads tags *ucking allah akbar

I was wondering that myself.

- A

New York City already has a lot of incomparable and awe-inspiring spots.
(Despite the fact that this is the site of 9/11 tragedy) it will be another truly awesome and monumental spot in the city.
I can never get bored of NYC...I don't think New York city is a boring place either.

This building with the historical reason behind it distinguished it from many buildings in the city.

Tags are a great way to subtly troll since hardly anyone notices them. For a long time one of the tags was 'Culwulla = Cum Stain'

:lol:

By GreenwichBoy, WNY, 7-28-10.

http://wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=10116&d=1280369786

^^ Welcome in the real world kid. If you do nothing you will end up with much bigger problems and years of years dogs will be suffering. However I'm for a painless death of course. What are the alternatives for this problem. Streetdogs are not exactly the cute puppy type of dogs and causes diseases and other problems. You could sterilize them all but that cost a lot of money. Money that can probably spent better on humans that are in problems.

That said your are sure in the wrong place and it will be deleted hopefully. Because trust me there are a lot more problems in the world that are far, far worse than this. And if everyone is just posting those problems here it will get a mess.

Edit: I just saw your posting this in more threads? Damn come on.... Put it in you signature or something. People from all over the world come here and they all have problems in their country..

Buenas imágenes del World Trade Center, me alegra saber que van bastante adelantados en la construcción de estas hermosas torres. Un abrazo a todos desde Cartagena Colombia

is this true?

The spire will be an intense beam of light that will be lit at night and will likely be visible over a thousand feet (305 m) into the air above the tower. New York City is a suitable place to set such a light pointing towards the sky without complaints of light pollution by astronomers, as the night sky in locations near New York City is already far too bright for serious astronomical observers.


http://www.tallestbuildingintheworld.com/building_id_109_Freedom+Tower+-+One+World+Trade+Center.php

if not, than what is the current plan for the lightning scheme?


that's what wtc.com says about it:
"When lit at night, the mast's surface will appear as a faceted surface, while a beacon at the top will send out a horizontal light beam that can be seen from miles away."


the beacon at the top was already part of the first designs:
http://www.emporis.com/img/6/2004/05/263353.jpg
(c) Skidmore, Owings & Merrill Skidmore, Owings & Merrill LLP

^^

I must be one of the very few people in the world that liked the first design.

What is so cool about it is that it referenced the Statue of Liberty, with it's "arm" holding up light.

^^

I must be one of the very few people in the world that liked the first design.

What is so cool about it is that it referenced the Statue of Liberty, with it's "arm" holding up light.The only thing i didn't like about it was its empty space at the top

^^ yeah same here, would have been better if they filled the top in with office floors......

that's what wtc.com says about it:
"When lit at night, the mast's surface will appear as a faceted surface, while a beacon at the top will send out a horizontal light beam that can be seen from miles away."


ok, i'm fine with that. :)

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Freedom Tower/1 World Trade Center Under Construction

Architects: Skidmore Owings and Merrill (SOM)

Vesey Street at Church Street
Lower Manhattan, Financial District
New York, New York
July 28, 2010 7:27 PM

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The following information was last updated on July 30, 2010.

Multiple cranes on site for steel and concrete installation
Tower steel is now going up on floors 31 and 32
Concrete is now being installed on floors 26 and 27
Both the south and north cores are now being erected as the structure rises
"Cocoon" safety system now in place around upper perimeter, to rise with structure
Final concrete installation on the sub-grade structure, including the surrounding plaza
Utility installation and tie-ins
Crews are coordinating substructure construction while maintaining PATH service

http://lowermanhattan.info

By GreenwichBoy, WNY, 7-30-10. Lookin' Good!

http://wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=10131&d=1280531698

Holy shit! This is gonna be huuuge! I love the last photo! It's stunning!

did anyone know tha the rebuild ground zero cam was back up?? :) :)

did anyone know tha the rebuild ground zero cam was back up?? :) :)

Thanks for the heads up! I normally check every day. But lately not so much. Nice to see all the progress made since the last time it was up (7/2/10).

Can't wait to it over takes the building behind it.

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It's alive!

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is that water in one of the memorials?

^^

From what I understand, the shiny black stuff, is waterproofing and the light grey bit that is just going on now, are the concrete panels that will line the floor of the memorial fountains.

Quick question. What's the current height to width ratio?

(Width from corner to corner, not diagonal)