is that water in one of the memorials?

Yes, you see rain has been known to fall once every few decades.

Took this one on Saturday form Downtown Jersey City

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4107/4847302231_9dd7e6d758_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4087/4845834343_5dc63a3d3f_b.jpg
cloudcity (http://www.flickr.com/photos/cloud_city/)

That dog has no idea what an epic view it has from that window:lol:

Yes, but the view of the ESB goes bye bye in about 3 weeks. It looks like you could still just barely see it from that window when the twins were still standing. I'll bet that was a view!

I think we could see the core to rise this week to floor 34..:)

The twin towers were so simple but yet so impressive. I would prefer to see them back there.
The new buildings are beautiful too... but it will never be the same.

The twin towers were so simple but yet so impressive. I would prefer to see them back there.
The new buildings are beautiful too... but it will never be the same.


yeah, you're right, with all due respect to the people who perished that day, we have to move on, and it's nice to see this new project with this beautiful tower!.. greetings!

very nice up date photos...

Condé Nast to Move to Skyscraper at Ground Zero (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/04/nyregion/04conde.html?_r=1&hp)

The New York Times
By CHARLES V. BAGLI (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/b/charles_v_bagli/index.html?inline=nyt-per)
Published: August 3, 2010

Condé Nast, the publishing giant, has signed a tentative deal to move its stable of chic magazines to ground zero, where it will anchor the skyscraper now under construction, according to two real estate executives who have been briefed on the negotiations.

The deal to bring Condé Nast to the building once known as the Freedo m Tower would signal a remarkable turnaround for a project that had been considered a marketing nightmare. The 1,776-foot-tall skyscraper will be the tallest building in New York when it is completed in 2013. If the deal goes through, employees of Condé Nast — publisher of Vanity Fair, The New Yorker, Vogue and 15 other magazines — would move in 2014 from their current home in Times Square.

The twin towers were so simple but yet so impressive. I would prefer to see them back there.
The new buildings are beautiful too... but it will never be the same.



A new set of twins can be built in a different place all together. Whether they do or not, who knows? If so it would be even better yet. The best thing is, is that Lower Manhattan will be getting its rightful tallest building back with its restaurants and observation decks.

A nice shot from last week:

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4081/4828568940_ba7982ec62_b_d.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ryanbudhu/

More goodies from Sherpa at Wired NY:

http://wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=10160&d=1280653220

http://wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=10158&d=1280653217

http://wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=10163&d=1280653224

http://wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=10162&d=1280653223

http://wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=10159&d=1280653218

Condé Nast to Move to Skyscraper at Ground Zero (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/04/nyregion/04conde.html?_r=1&hp)

The New York Times
By CHARLES V. BAGLI (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/b/charles_v_bagli/index.html?inline=nyt-per)
Published: August 3, 2010

But the two executives, who insisted on anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the pending deal, said that Condé Nast would take up to one million square feet in the 2.6 million-square-foot skyscraper.

That would mean over 1/3 of the total office space. Great news. :cheers:

The best part is that the more of this building is occupied, the more other potential tenants will have to go for space in the other towers instead, further securing their future. ;)

A new set of twins can be built in a different place all together. Whether they do or not, who knows? If so it would be even better yet. The best thing is, is that Lower Manhattan will be getting its rightful tallest building back with its restaurants and observation decks.

I can tell you, they'll be no Twins in Lower Manhattan. At least not the old ones. I'm sure someone going come behind and say they've got plans for Jersey. Right now all the supertalls are in Mid Town, even if some are less super then they are tall. I'm just happen this part of towns getting some back.

Aren't there twins planned for midtown? Like that Madison Square Garden stuff, or that Hudson Yards stuff, wasn't there something twinny about those? I don't remember.

(edit) Found these two:

Midtown Towers (427m x 2): http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=486065
Brookfield Properties Towers (370m / 284m): http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=585812

Aren't there twins planned for midtown? Like that Madison Square Garden stuff, or that Hudson Yards stuff, wasn't there something twinny about those? I don't remember.

(edit) Found these two:

Midtown Towers (427m x 2): http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=486065
Brookfield Properties Towers (370m / 284m): http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=585812

There both canceled or almost canceled , the second one i believe is up in the air. There planning on building a new train station and something else over the Penn pit.

Condé Nast to Move to Skyscraper at Ground Zero (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/04/nyregion/04conde.html?_r=1&hp)

The New York Times
By CHARLES V. BAGLI (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/b/charles_v_bagli/index.html?inline=nyt-per)
Published: August 3, 2010

I like that...Great news..

Is it possible? I saw a truck down at the tower...New steel?

http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/2111/worldtradecenter2010080.jpg

http://d.yimg.com/i/ng/ne/lemonde/20100803/18/2276358741-le-projet-de-construction-d-une-mosquee-pres-de-ground.jpg

A committee of the city of New York, charged with the preservation of heritage, raised on Tuesday, August 2nd a major obstacle to the building of a controversial mosque in some steps of the site where were the twin towers destroyed by the assassination attempts of September 11th, 2001. Read continuation the article

The committee decided unanimously to withdraw the building from the list of ancient monuments of 45-47, Park place, near Ground Zero, where the mosque must be constructed. The building dating of 1850 doesn't shelter any more from now on than a shop of clothes in abandonment. 'The committee voted by nine zero votes against to withdraw the building' of the list, declared his president, Robert Tierney.

Nine members of the committee explained alternately the reason of their choice, what gave rise to applauses in the room while another part of the public shouted: 'Shame '. A classification would have prevented the demolition of the building and thereabouts the building of the mosque and of an Islamic centre, very controversial plan. The building of this mosque had been approved in May by the town council of New York.

Besides the mosque, the future complex must shelter sports fields, theatre, restaurants and potentially day nursery. The supporters of plan support that the 'Home Cordoba' will help to overcome the negative stereotypes the Muslim community of the city of which continues suffering since attacks against the sky-scrapers of the World Trade Center, that had made about 3 000 dead.

The opponents support that to construct a mosque if near Ground Zero is an insult in memory of victims. The plan, which has the support of the mayor of New York, Michael Bloomberg, is notably reported vigorously by the republican ex-candidate for vice-presidency, Sarah Palin.

http://fr.news.yahoo.com/64/20100803/twl-le-projet-de-construction-d-une-mosq-acb1c83.html

Approximate translation by Voila

Has nothing to do with this building.

It is related to this building, but still completely irrelevant. Who cares if Muslims want to build a mosque downtown. 9/11 was an attack by radicalized muslims who had been brainwashed by a perversion of islam. I have no problem with the muslim community in general, many of whom died on 9/11. Besides, it's not being built on Ground Zero, it's not even being built adjacent to Ground Zero. So what if it's NEAR Ground Zero, every single thing downtown is NEAR Ground Zero (the furthest you can possibly get from Ground Zero in any direction is like only half a mile).

"Irrelevant" is probably an understatement. There really shouldn't even be any discusssion over whatever latest populist craze Sarah Palin tries to latch onto in her desperate attempts to gain any media attention. I shouldn't even have dignified it with this blatantly off-topic post. Fact is: There are muslims in Lower Manhattan, you better believe it. And oh my, those muslims like to pray to Allah! How dare they! Let's be shocked and outraged, because who'd have expected such a thing in one of the most diverse cities on the planet! There are muslims living in a metropolis that has people of all colours and creeds inhabiting it? Impossible!!

Friggin' hell...

It is related to this building, but still completely irrelevant. Who cares if Muslims want to build a mosque downtown. 9/11 was an attack by radicalized muslims who had been brainwashed by a perversion of islam. I have no problem with the muslim community in general, many of whom died on 9/11. Besides, it's not being built on Ground Zero, it's not even being built adjacent to Ground Zero. So what if it's NEAR Ground Zero, every single thing downtown is NEAR Ground Zero (the furthest you can possibly get from Ground Zero in any direction is like only half a mile).


I totally agree with everything you said. Besides, maybe the radicals won't want to attack an area that is this diverse.

^Um... You mean like how they already did?

Near as any of us can figure, the 9/11 hijackers had exactly no concern for the demographics of Lower Manhattan, just the symbolic shock value of taking down the Twin Towers.

But that's beside the point. If the zoning allows it, people can build whatever they want. It's the free exercise of religion. I have a problem with people who think it's okay to stifle freedom when it doesn't suit their personal worldview.

Which is also beside the point.

Who cares about what religious whatever gets built "near" this site? There's a church across the street, mosque, temple, who cares, let's stick on topic to 1 WTC please.

- A

That how you know none of you are from NYC. You ask a pointless question like who cares. The family of the victims care and the man and women who put their lives on the line that day care. But that neither here or there. Only thing worth talking about in this thread, is this building.

:ohno:

That would mean over 1/3 of the total office space. Great news. :cheers:

NY State and the US goverment also committed to 1.2 m sf, and Vantone of China committed to 190,000 sf. Therefore, these, together with Conde's 1m sf, mean that this tower basically is full. Consequently, demand will line up soon for Foster's and Rogers' towers.

What about conde mid town tower. I've been wonder about it. do they own that building?

What about conde mid town tower. I've been wonder about it. do they own that building?

No, they just lease a major part of it.

The Durst Organization owns it, there are a lot of other tenants in Conde Nast Building
(Really called 4 Times Square: http://www.durst.org/properties/four_times_square.php)

NY State and the US goverment also committed to 1.2 m sf, and Vantone of China committed to 190,000 sf. Therefore, these, together with Conde's 1m sf, mean that this tower basically is full. Consequently, demand will line up soon for Foster's and Rogers' towers.

Those government leases are not signed, so I'd be wary of counting them. If 1WTC can fill up without government leases, I'd rather see them move to Silverstein's towers.

08/03/2010 all taken by me:

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r48/Athinaios/IMG_0926.jpg

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r48/Athinaios/IMG_0950.jpg

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r48/Athinaios/IMG_0951.jpg

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r48/Athinaios/IMG_0953.jpg

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r48/Athinaios/IMG_0947.jpg

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r48/Athinaios/IMG_0968.jpg

View from the Top of The Rock:

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r48/Athinaios/IMG_1141.jpg

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r48/Athinaios/IMG_1142.jpg

Cranes are jumping!!!!

Athinaios, great pics! I do really see the progress :)

Those government leases are not signed, so I'd be wary of counting them. If 1WTC can fill up without government leases, I'd rather see them move to Silverstein's towers.

They're not signed, but there are firm commitments. 1 and 4 WTC were always envisioned to have state and federal tenants occupying the bulk of the towers. They will be signed, and 1 WTC will be nearly full. Therefore, demand will be great for 2 and 3 WTC.

WFC, 7WTC and Goldman Sachs make such an awesome modern cluster by themselves already, it will be beyond awesome once 1-4WTC dominate it. :)

I thought the same as you when I saw this photo.

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r48/Athinaios/IMG_0968.jpg

Yep. The other side will look great, too, with the Beekman tower in front.

I'm sure this has been asked and answered before so sorry in advance, but for the life of me I can't find any details. Does anyone know when the facade will start? It looks like it's almost ready to start. Thanks :)

I think it's due in Q4 of this year? Could be wrong though. This thing is made of so much steel that I've almost forgotten about the facade as part of the construction process haha

^^ : same here :lol: usually im waiting anxiously for the cladding to go up, but i havent even thought about it for this until now hahah :lol:

The tower cranes have jumped again, and the Subway is movin' on up!

GreenwichBoy, August 5th, 2010

http://wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=10185&d=1281009744

http://wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=10184&d=1281009740

OK, this may have been asked before, but now that these structures have been mostly built up I figure it is appropriate to ask again: what are the 2 box-like concrete things on the west side of the site? I heard they were for the ventilation systems or something, but they're freaking HUGE. Far taller than a person, and big even by regular building standards.

Here's a pic:
http://img686.imageshack.us/img686/6206/buildings.png

When this is complete, it will be so beautiful.

http://www.observer.com/files/full/15_39_WTC-Model-from-Above-web_4.jpg

Great to momentum taking place on this beauty. I personally love the design of this building as like all great buildings its geometry and general shape looks simple and angular, however upon closer analysis reveals itself as a complex marvel of engineering.

This building appears to be so well engineered I don't think the US Government would be able to bring this building down unlike its predecessors...

This building appears to be so well engineered I don't think the US Government would be able to bring this building down unlike its predecessors...Could somebody please ban this troll? Permaban, preferably. There is a time and place to discuss things of that nature and this thread isn't it.

It's going to look quite skinny against those fat buildings around it.

Could somebody please ban this troll? Permaban, preferably. There is a time and place to discuss things of that nature and this thread isn't it.

... Ah and it resorts to name calling, grow up. :lol:

I haven't been to the site since December but I remember just thinking of what a logistical nightmare it must be on site. Building a high rise in any dense city is a major challenge, however with six skyscrapers and the memorial being built in such close proximity, all linking underground and to the PATH Station; I'd say this is the most challenging construction site active today.

Great to momentum taking place on this beauty. I personally love the design of this building as like all great buildings its geometry and general shape looks simple and angular, however upon closer analysis reveals itself as a complex marvel of engineering.

This building appears to be so well engineered I don't think the US Government would be able to bring this building down unlike its predecessors...



Just another conspiracy buff.

Thank you guys for such a warm reception. And now back on topic...

Well what did you expect? No one here takes kindly to that kind of bullshit. So you're either a troll or completely incapable of making posts that won't piss people off (I guess there's not a big difference there) http://www.welpfolks.net/forum/images/smilies/scratch.gif

This building appears to be so well engineered I don't think the US Government would be able to bring this building down unlike its predecessors...

http://www.motifake.com/image/demotivational-poster/0906/godzilla-facepalm-godzilla-facepalm-face-palm-epic-fail-demotivational-poster-1245384435.jpg

Godzilla is more likely to facepalm at the feeding of trolls.

No one here takes kindly to that kind of bullshit Bullshit? I was just merely pointing out the original 'official theory' pushed into the collective conciousness is a conspiracy theory. I guess the physicists, structural engineers and architects that have produced peer backed reviews and essays criticising the official theory are just publishing 'bullshit' ? :lol:

So you're either a troll Wrong, I am a 21 year old human studying BA Architecture at Westminster University.

...or completely incapable of making posts that won't piss people off Before you attack me with I'm disrespecting family members, just research Manny Badillo, John and Bev Titus and Luke Rudkowski and listen to what 'the last survivor' William Rodriguez has to say.

Uaarkson: One World Trade Centre, discuss? :)

:storm: BACK ON TOPPIC!!!

OK, this may have been asked before, but now that these structures have been mostly built up I figure it is appropriate to ask again: what are the 2 box-like concrete things on the west side of the site? I heard they were for the ventilation systems or something, but they're freaking HUGE. Far taller than a person, and big even by regular building standards.

Here's a pic:
http://img686.imageshack.us/img686/6206/buildings.png

The structures being built in the western portion of the Memorial Plaza adjacent to Route 9A are vent structures. They will serve the dual purpose of providing ventilation for the Transportation Hub and Museum, while also providing access for materials to get below ground and possibly light concession on the Memorial Plaza.

Great update at http://www.panynj.gov/wtcprogress/index.html

we're not buying what your saling buddy, so give it a rest. Now where were we. The model needs to be upgraded. The ring around the spire should be change, it hasn't look like that in years.

Bullshit? I was just merely pointing out the original 'official theory' pushed into the collective conciousness is a conspiracy theory. I guess the physicists, structural engineers and architects that have produced peer backed reviews and essays criticising the official theory are just publishing 'bullshit' ? :lol:

Wrong, I am a 21 year old human studying BA Architecture at Westminster University.

Before you attack me with I'm disrespecting family members, just research Manny Badillo, John and Bev Titus and Luke Rudkowski and listen to what 'the last survivor' William Rodriguez has to say.

Uaarkson: One World Trade Centre, discuss? :)

Way to go AlexanderCameron. Don't let these people here bring you down, they don't know you so they have no right to judge just because you stated your opinion. It's amazing how fucked up people are in America today. You shout out a conspiracy theory and right away people call you a "nut." I'm no conspiracy theorist but I don't believe the official story either. I don't buy the controlled demolition theory but I do believe there is much more to the story. Anyway back to One World Trade Center. So glad this Tower is growing faster and faster. :cheers2:

:fiddle:

This building appears to be so well engineered I don't think the US Government would be able to bring this building down unlike its predecessors...

Brilliant remark!! I take it that you are skeptical as well of the Apollo Moon landing, and you believe that Elvis Presley is not really dead, but flipping burgers somewhere in Montana.

By GreenwichBoy, WNY, 8-5-10. Scaffolding jumped. New floors on their way!

http://wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=10190&d=1281060914

Will wtc one be taller than etc seven by the end of the year ?

When are we gonna start seeing some cladding on this baby?

Will wtc one be taller than etc seven by the end of the year ?

hopefully,PA estimated 1wtc will be around 55-60 fl high by the end of this year

When are we gonna start seeing some cladding on this baby?

soon, they said 3rd quarter of 2010...correct me if i'm wrong

Going to be quite the cluster when all buildings are finished...

Will wtc one be taller than etc seven by the end of the year ?

Almost, its projected to be somewhere between 55-60 stories high at the end of the year. Which equates to 650-720 feet tall.

Going to be quite the cluster when all buildings are finished...

its lower manhattan, so the word cluster doesn't really work down there. If it was a smaller city or there wasn't any buildings for miles away. Then yeah it would be quite the cluster.

Well, given that most of the WTC is significantly taller and glassier than everything around it, I'd say it will be a very visually impressive "cluster."

is staying at the world center hotel all weekend! room right beside the deustche bank tons of work is going on there im on the 18th floor there will be lots of pics this weekend

Here are a few to start

http://wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=10196&d=1281129565

http://wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=10199&d=1281130213

http://wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=10195&d=1281129544

^^

Great shots!!

WTC Is to New York what what the Shard is to London. Both represent something very special all be it for different reasons. It's nice to see some hight, one can only wait for the cladding. New York and London... The best city's in the world!

WTC Is to New York what what the Shard is to London. Both represent something very special all be it for different reasons. It's nice to see some hight, one can only wait for the cladding. New York and London... The best city's in the world!

Couldn't be different. You forget the whole reason the WTC is being rebuilt, and were at one time composed of the two tallest buildings in the world. The Shard is a modern day project funded by foreign investors from a totally different era. The WTC towers have a lot more meaning to them considering all the lives that were lost than the Shard does.

I think you are confusing this tower with the WTC memorial. This tower has no connection to any lives lost, it is just an office building.

This building appears to be so well engineered I don't think the US Government would be able to bring this building down unlike its predecessors...

So, you are saying that the US Government, the same Government that couldn't keep ANYTHING secret over the past 234 years has managed to keep the great 9/11 conspiracy secret totally secret for 9 years.

The US Government is either "Hyper-competent" as you contend, or it is in reality, incompetent, as reality insists, for allowing the 9/11 attacks to happen.

Let us dismiss such foolishness and get on with the business of this forum, the construction of Tower One.

So, you are saying that the US Government, the same Government that couldn't keep ANYTHING secret over the past 234 years has managed to keep the great 9/11 conspiracy secret totally secret for 9 years.

The US Government is either "Hyper-competent" as you contend, or it is in reality, incompetent, as reality insists, for allowing the 9/11 attacks to happen.

Let us dismiss such foolishness and get on with the business of this forum, the construction of Tower One.

Just ignore him, he's probably preparing his 2012 survival kit by now, btw alexander the tower is indeed built to wisthand "terrorist attacks", to and extent.

Couldn't be different. You forget the whole reason the WTC is being rebuilt, and were at one time composed of the two tallest buildings in the world. The Shard is a modern day project funded by foreign investors from a totally different era. The WTC towers have a lot more meaning to them considering all the lives that were lost than the Shard does.

I think you misinterpret what I have written. No one can forget the loss of live that happened 9 years ago, but I am talking about what the new tower's mean to the the cities they are been built in. Both represent something to be very proud off. The Shard once completed will be the tallest in European community, 1 WTC when completed, will be among the tallest buildings in the world and the tallest in the United States. This is my comparison. :)

WTC Is to New York what what the Shard is to London. Both represent something very special all be it for different reasons. It's nice to see some hight, one can only wait for the cladding. New York and London... The best city's in the world!

wrong

I think you are confusing this tower with the WTC memorial. This tower has no connection to any lives lost, it is just an office building.

I think you misinterpret what I have written. No one can forget the loss of live that happened 9 years ago, but I am talking about what the new tower's mean to the the cities they are been built in. Both represent something to be very proud off. The Shard once completed will be the tallest in European community, 1 WTC when completed, will be among the tallest buildings in the world and the tallest in the United States. This is my comparison. :)

The Shard is just a tall office tower. Maybe it represents the power of Great Britain or something like that, but that's all.

OneWTC is part of the WTC and its history. For that reason it will always be connected with the shocker of 9/11 and its impact to the american society and mankind.

You can't compare the meaning of OneWTC to any other buildings as you can't compare the 9/11 tragedy to any other tragedy.

a few from today

http://wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=10224&d=1281205206

http://wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=10220&d=1281205107

http://wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=10207&d=1281181744 last night

http://wirednewyork.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3672&p=333257#post333257

Some pictures i took yesterday. When i asked the guy at the info both when the project is supposed to be competed he said 2013-14 , when i asked when it was really going to be completed 2018-20 he had a serious face on. If you guys would ask the people who are working down there when it will completed you get the real completion dates. Tell them your a New Yorker / New Jerseyite because they seem to tell the tourists different.:lol:

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4139/4867038833_3d7ff2ebff_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4118/4867038911_509e0f9b20_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4134/4867040297_a7c1e2f5ff_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4141/4867659208_13a890b860_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4073/4867659622_0b29c56641_b.jpg

Some pictures i took yesterday. When i asked the guy at the info both when the project is supposed to be competed he said 2013-14 , when i asked when it was really going to be completed 2018-20 he had a serious face on. If you guys would ask the people who are working down there when it will completed you get the real completion dates. Tell them your a New Yorker / New Jerseyite because they seem to tell the tourists different.:lol:
[/IMG]I'm pretty sure the memorial and one wtc will all be completed in 2014 the only thing that might be completed in 2020 is 2 wtc and 3 wtc

I'm pretty sure the memorial and one wtc will all be completed in 2014 the only thing that might be completed in 2020 is 2 wtc and 3 wtc

Well i asked when 1 and the Transportation Center were going to be completed. I asked for the real date not the fake date as many ppl here seem to think it will be completed.

we're not buying what your saling buddy, so give it a rest. Now where were we. The model needs to be upgraded. The ring around the spire should be change, it hasn't look like that in years.

I just ignore the theorists, truthers, etc....glad they have something to talk about but I ain't listenin'....p

Well i asked when 1 and the Transportation Center were going to be completed. I asked for the real date not the fake date as many ppl here seem to think it will be completed.

The various parties involved in this project can be fined up to $250,000 per day past the scheduled completion date. 1WTC will be finished and open by 2014, and the memorial far sooner.

Some pictures i took yesterday. When i asked the guy at the info both when the project is supposed to be competed he said 2013-14 , when i asked when it was really going to be completed 2018-20 he had a serious face on. If you guys would ask the people who are working down there when it will completed you get the real completion dates. Tell them your a New Yorker / New Jerseyite because they seem to tell the tourists different.:lol:


Maybe they're referring to having all the floors fully built out. I doubt any of the tenants like Vantone or Conde Nast are going to be able to move in immediately in late 2013 or early 2014.

Doesn't matter to me. The most important date is when it will be open to the general public. I'm guessing second half of 2014 or early 2015 at the latest.

Some pictures i took yesterday. When i asked the guy at the info both when the project is supposed to be competed he said 2013-14 , when i asked when it was really going to be completed 2018-20 he had a serious face on. If you guys would ask the people who are working down there when it will completed you get the real completion dates. Tell them your a New Yorker / New Jerseyite because they seem to tell the tourists different.:lol:


Thanks man, great update...It's nice to see it from diferent angles and diferent streets and positions...:)

The various parties involved in this project can be fined up to $250,000 per day past the scheduled completion date. 1WTC will be finished and open by 2014, and the memorial far sooner.

Maybe they're referring to having all the floors fully built out. I doubt any of the tenants like Vantone or Conde Nast are going to be able to move in immediately in late 2013 or early 2014.

Doesn't matter to me. The most important date is when it will be open to the general public. I'm guessing second half of 2014 or early 2015 at the latest.

To be honest i trust them more then any set date. They are working on or with the project. The Politics in this region are sure to inject there heads into this project sometime in the near future. Politics , Corruption , and money troubles show up form out of the blue. Here's a list of Regional Projects that have been affected by that , 2nd Avenue Subway , NJT's New Tunnel and Station Midtown , Amtrak's New Station in Midtown , 3 New or Upgraded Bridges to Staten Island , PATH Extension to EWR & 7th Avenue Subway extension. You may not believe me ,but thats how it works around here. Its very sad and Pathetic that we can't do the simplest of things and ontime / budget. 250k a day is chunk change in this region, that is nothing. Yes the Memorial will be done , but the rest of the site is up in the air in terms of completion dates. So i don't hold my breath on anything that is said around here , i take it with a grain of salt.

Thanks man, great update...It's nice to see it from diferent angles and diferent streets and positions...:)

Thankyou and heres 3 more form Jersey City.

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To be honest i trust them more then any set date. They are working on or with the project....and I would trust the contractors actually responsible for the project and with money on the line for completion over the lackey in the info booth. I'm sure he's not a bad guy, just sharing typical NYC cynicism, especially with the mess before the PA took over.

...and I would trust the contractors actually responsible for the project and with money on the line for completion over the lackey in the info booth. I'm sure he's not a bad guy, just sharing typical NYC cynicism, especially with the mess before the PA took over.

True but still , i don't think hes off. You know how it works in the NYC Region with Large Scale projects and Politics.....:ohno: Theres always delays and like we have seen changes.

I well consider the Tower finished and open when I can take my wife to dinner in the restaurant, or visit the observation deck.

I wouldn't be surprised if I could take her to dinner for her birthday, January 1st, 2014, or, at the latest she can take me to dinner on my BD, April 21st. (I wonder if it's too early to make reservations ?!?)

There well probably be alot of floors still undergoing tenant fit out at that time but the Tower well be finished and open.

Go to this website, click on the WTC Site tab and scroll down to almost the bottom of the page. ( The Transit Hall contracts are near the top of the page.)

http://www.panynj.gov/business-opportunities/ca-contracts-awarded.html

Do you really think all these company's are going to risk losing money on there contract due to late penalties because they didn't spend a little more money to get there contract finished on time ? Or worse, risk defaulting on there bonds !

http://www.attny.com/gci32djd.html (Some lite reading if anyone has trouble falling asleep at night)

The PA requires that company's provide performance bonds on any contract over $1 million. Only the largest company's can survive defaulting on a performance bond. (The work still gets done, by another company.)

hi guys!!

i found this interesting page on flickr

http://www.flickr.com/photos/wtcprogress/4730528272/

picture from the inside of the work.

bye from Italy

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Any idea what those window like things are?

thats really cool!
thanks for sharing

very nice up date picture...

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What the hell is that?

This is gonna look so awesome when it's completed

The Deutsche bank building. How far along is it now in it deconstruction?

I well consider the Tower finished and open when I can take my wife to dinner in the restaurant, or visit the observation deck.

I wouldn't be surprised if I could take her to dinner for her birthday, January 1st, 2014, or, at the latest she can take me to dinner on my BD, April 21st. (I wonder if it's too early to make reservations ?!?)

There well probably be alot of floors still undergoing tenant fit out at that time but the Tower well be finished and open.

Go to this website, click on the WTC Site tab and scroll down to almost the bottom of the page. ( The Transit Hall contracts are near the top of the page.)

http://www.panynj.gov/business-opportunities/ca-contracts-awarded.html

Do you really think all these company's are going to risk losing money on there contract due to late penalties because they didn't spend a little more money to get there contract finished on time ? Or worse, risk defaulting on there bonds !

http://www.attny.com/gci32djd.html (Some lite reading if anyone has trouble falling asleep at night)

The PA requires that company's provide performance bonds on any contract over $1 million. Only the largest company's can survive defaulting on a performance bond. (The work still gets done, by another company.)

Like i said , they'll never finish anything ontime in this region private or public projects that why i'm skeptical that it will get done on time.

I noticed that the built a concrete wall at the "lobby" of WTC1 as it seems here in this photo on the right of the building
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About those "windows" above: what are those?

Please someone say that those are the cladding..

Also, what are those red-ish vent thingys?

I have a feeling this will start to get interesting!

The Deutsche bank building. How far along is it now in it deconstruction?

*The following information was last updated on August 6, 2010.

Deconstruction:

* Deconstruction of the building is now on floors 9 and 10, moving downward.
* The projected end date for deconstruction is December 2010/January 2011.

from http://www.lowermanhattan.info/construction/project_updates/130_liberty_street__77170.aspx

a few from the world center hotel

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Great shots, really gives an idea of the size there. Looks just a bit under half the height of 7WTC!

Really good photos from an amazing Tower!
The tower grows and grows.... :banana:

I would guess the red vents are part of the HVAC system, or emergency smoke removing vents. They must all be on the less photographed north side of the structure.

I have no clue about that overhang steel on the corner...

130 Liberty is almost deconstructed. Construction on WTC 5 is said to begin soon

Construction on WTC 5 is said to begin soon

No.. You are pretty wrong there..

5WTC was supposed to be a 42 story tower for JPMorgan Chase. They cancelled
Then it was supposed to be a performing arts center by Frank gehry. They cancelled
Then there was speculation that NYU would use that site for a new building. They said no.
Now the LMDC and the PA are saying they do want offices there so the hunt is on for an anchor tennant.

5WTC was supposed to be a 42 story tower for JPMorgan Chase. They cancelled
Then it was supposed to be a performing arts center by Frank gehry. They cancelled
Then there was speculation that NYU would use that site for a new building. They said no.
Now the LMDC and the PA are saying they do want offices there so the hunt is on for an anchor tennant.

Performance art center is not cancelled

Performance art center is not cancelled

they cancelled out of that space and will move into a Midtown structure.

they cancelled out of that space and will move into a Midtown structure.

The PA just approved the first money for the PAC a couple months ago. It's a go. But it won't start till 2015 at the earliest.

diagram update.
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^^ Perimeter steel is up to the 34th floor (373' 4"), plus 6-7 feet including the splice, it's 380 feet/116m high.

Verizon is almost hiden back there, cranes are at top of the 7WTC..This is going to be on top of the Manhattan soon..:)

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The PA just approved the first money for the PAC a couple months ago. It's a go. But it won't start till 2015 at the earliest.

Ah yes, I found it now: http://ny.curbed.com/archives/2010/06/22/comedy_tragedy_gehry_to_live_on_at_world_trade_center.php

There was another cultural development that did nix the WTC site, was that the drawing museum?

^^^^ WOAH Dinovabec! those are my pictures didnt i already post them?

^^^^ WOAH Dinovabec! those are my pictures didnt i already post them?

Didn't saw them here yet..:) So, you're that Erik..Nice work man..:cheers:

Didn't saw them here yet..:) So, you're that Erik..Nice work man..:cheers:

haha im afraid im not Erik im westmc9th on there as well lol he stole them lol but its ok i guess but id rather u change them from him 2 mine haha.

Anyway the tower really is massive pictures dont even come close to the reality

haha im afraid im not Erik im westmc9th on there as well lol he stole them lol but its ok i guess but id rather u change them from him 2 mine haha.

Anyway the tower really is massive pictures dont even come close to the reality

No problem man..I found them on Flickr on some Erik's acount..So, you're not him..Alright, I'll change author below pic..:)

No problem man..I found them on Flickr on some Erik's acount..So, you're not him..Alright, I'll change author below pic..:)

haha thanks! i just uploaded some more on flickr if you wanan check them out as well i cant get my pics from flickr to upload.

I have left NyC buti want to be back by the end of the year if not at least next summer i highly reccomend the world center hotel if you want to take great pics of the site only catch is you have to buy something to take pics from the reastraunt and must have a hotel room

^^ Perimeter steel is up to the 34th floor (373' 4"), plus 6-7 feet including the splice, it's 380 feet/116m high.

oh ok, so i count 12floors above the lev20 bit. which equates to lev32?
so that small section is 2 floors high? up to lev34.? ok.ill amend

oh ok, so i count 12floors above the lev20 bit. which equates to lev32?
so that small section is 2 floors high? up to lev34.? ok.ill amend

The 32nd floor is decked. A lot of perimeter steel was installed today. Here's a screen shot shown over at WNY. You can see that steel is up to the 34th floor.

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Those floors are built with the same speed as those before..:)


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Sorry I might be the 1000th guy to ask this, but can anyone give me the Link of the Ground Zero HD Cam again ??

Thanks

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here are a few more my trip to NYC was amazing hope to be back l8r this year. The world center hotel offers some great views

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GreenwichBoy, August 10th..

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here are a few more my trip to NYC was amazing hope to be back l8r this year. The world center hotel offers some great views


Thanks man...All taken on August 8th? :)

Thanks man...All taken on August 8th? :)

nope i have more from the 7th 8th and early morning on the 9th. On the WNY forum its easier to upload then it is on here i can never get my pics from flickr on here

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first picture was at 10.43 am and then i reloaded the page it was 10.42..??:nuts:

nope i have more from the 7th 8th and early morning on the 9th. On the WNY forum its easier to upload then it is on here i can never get my pics from flickr on here

Can you give me a link to your Flickr page, please? I searched but couldn't find it..:)

Can you give me a link to your Flickr page, please? I searched but couldn't find it..:)

sure thing.. http://www.flickr.com/photos/43913970@N04/

sure thing.. http://www.flickr.com/photos/43913970@N04/

Thanks man...:cheers:

Like i said , they'll never finish anything ontime in this region private or public projects that why i'm skeptical that it will get done on time.

Almost all projects are compleated ontime, you only hear about the ones that make the news when they are late.



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Mockup for the climbing tower crane framing.

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Crane decks in the stored position. When they need to put something heavy on a particular floor they drop the crane deck down and place the load on it, then wheel it inside to where it needs to go. The ones with EDC on them are the retractable kind.

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^^ wow amazing pics, thanks for all the pics guys, good to see this is progressing at a steady pace :)

Thankiossk Cool!

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^^ Bigger version.

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so fast......

With the economy the way it is, no need to rush the building to completion. Better to take time and build it well.

Man this thing is rising up quickly!

so fast......

:crazy:

Great updates! :)

at least the progress still running not to slow also not to fast...

By GreenwichBoy, WNY, 8-11-10.

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at least the progress still running not to slow also not to fast...

It's moving up at about a floor a week. That's a pretty darn good speed for any project, and if you take into consideration the fact that it's happening on 1WTC, it's downright blistering!

It's moving up at about a floor a week. That's a pretty darn good speed for any project, and if you take into consideration the fact that it's happening on 1WTC, it's downright blistering!

Just for curiosity, does anyone remember what was the Empire State Building rate of construction? I mean floors/week.

Just for curiosity, does anyone remember what was the Empire State Building rate of construction? I mean floors/week.
This is gonna take faster than the construcion of the Empire State Building because remember that that was in the 1930s and they didn't have the machines that we have now so my guess is that the floors per week are faster than the Empire State.

^^ Really? Because the Empire State Building was adding 4.5 floors a week at the height of construction, and that was with rivets.

Compare that rate to the rate we've seen here so far, and get back to me on that.

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I don't mean this as a negative comment against construction workers but 2010 is not 1930's......back when the ESB went up was in the great depression and guys in work did longer and harder hours......Work safety rules were different as was equipment and construction methods.

I can't say I am a pro on this but, a floor per week is quite slow. In Dubai and China the buildings rise way faster. In Dubai they got people working 24/7. I went there for a weeks vacation and there was a building site next to our hotel. I've never seen so many workers on one building. ....and I've once heard that in Dubai they build a floor per day, but that's just a rumour ;)

I guess the NYC guys are paid an hourly wage so why hurry?

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Also NY will have more health and safety regulations which prevent workers doing 18 hour shifts.
Also this tower will be of a much higher build quality than anything that has ever come out of dubai.


I also thought it was a well know factoid amongst us skyscraper folk that the Empire State Building was built in only 11 months.

I can't say I am a pro on this but, a floor per week is quite slow. In Dubai and China the buildings rise way faster. In Dubai they got people working 24/7. I went there for a weeks vacation and there was a building site next to our hotel. I've never seen so many workers on one building. ....and I've once heard that in Dubai they build a floor per day, but that's just a rumour ;)

I guess the NYC guys are paid an hourly wage so why hurry?

They have target date when tower has to be done, but hey, it's a hour pay, so let's put one beam every 3 hours up and we'll be a loaded with money...Who cares if our boss will pay penalty because we didn't build it at time...;)

also they are building the memorial center there as well, which probably means workers are working all over the place.

If you have ever been to the site in person, it is amazing to see the activity. Cameras, webcams, videos....they just cannot capture what the human eye can.

They have target date when tower has to be done, but hey, it's a hour pay, so let's put one beam every 3 hours up and we'll be a loaded with money...Who cares if our boss will pay penalty because we didn't build it at time...;)
He can pay the penalty from the money he earned during all those extra hours. ;)

The difference in speed between this tower and the ones in Dubai is mostly in the construction. 1WTC is simply harder to build.

I can't say I am a pro on this but, a floor per week is quite slow. In Dubai and China the buildings rise way faster. In Dubai they got people working 24/7. I went there for a weeks vacation and there was a building site next to our hotel. I've never seen so many workers on one building. ....and I've once heard that in Dubai they build a floor per day, but that's just a rumour ;)

I guess the NYC guys are paid an hourly wage so why hurry?
Well it all depend of the size and material used for floors. In NYC they are using first steel and then concrete. In Dubai as I saw, only concrete structure

The difference in speed between this tower and the ones in Dubai is mostly in the construction. 1WTC is simply harder to build.


Getting all of the supplies and materials shipped in there, in and amongst that canyon of skyscrapers, and from the rivers around the island of Manhattan, is at least as big of a chore as the actual physical construction of the project itself.

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wow,that picture really rocks!!... :rock:

Man this thing is rising up quickly!

Really??? After all the years waiting... we see finally something rising!

Unless they declare no fly zone to lower manhattan and implant bomb monitors around the site, then I am not going into there or even into the site.

Dont worry now.

Unless they declare no fly zone to lower manhattan and implant bomb monitors around the site, then I am not going into there or even into the site.

I'm sure we can find a way to live with your absence.

Unless they declare no fly zone to lower manhattan and implant bomb monitors around the site, then I am not going into there or even into the site.

Lower Manhattan is a no fly zone.

I wonder how much impact having the Subway up there has affected the rate of construction? Surely having to walk all the way to the bottom and up again for lunch must take a valuable slice of time out of the day.

... Anyway, I don't expect terrorists will abide fly zones if given the chance.

Unless they declare no fly zone to lower manhattan and implant bomb monitors around the site, then I am not going into there or even into the site.

Well, with that attitude why don't you just hand victory to the terrorists because if we all thought like you do, Bin Laden would have won the war years ago. Thank God there are people who stand up to this and say... we will built again and we will not be scared.

I think the difference in constructionspeed between Dubai and NY is also also there because NY is a city and Dubai more of a giant constructionpit with almost no citylife at streetlevel. This has an effect on logistics and stuff...

haha im afraid im not Erik im westmc9th on there as well lol he stole them lol but its ok i guess but id rather u change them from him 2 mine haha.

Anyway the tower really is massive pictures dont even come close to the reality

Sue the guy and get some money. [if the pictures are yours ofcourse]

Unless you were planning on selling the pictures, suing someone over it is a dick move. People may be dumb when it comes to crediting photos, but they're just trying to spread the updates around. There is most likely no malicious intent.

I also thought it was a well know factoid amongst us skyscraper folk that the Empire State Building was built in only 11 months.

The ESB is legendary amongst skyscrapers for the speed of its construction and reflects the time when it was built - the period after the Wall Street Crash when money was tight and nobody wanted their wealth tied up for too long.

The steelwork would go up around one floor a day and was helped by an extremely well-honed organisation. Steel beams and columns would arrive just in time with each element marked with the gate it was to arrive at and the crane to be used to lift it into position.

The steel went up very fast because the steel erectors only had to bolt the sections together. They would be followed several storeys below by a team of 'plumbers' whose job it was to ensure the structure was square and true and then the temporary bolts would be removed and replaced by rivets.

I guess also that the tower was simpler to build in that it was a straightforward building without bracing and without need for a core or the varying floor plans of 1WTC. The structure relied for its stability on the shear weight and rigidity of its masonry cladding.

great progress

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But I see an airplane in this picture. What's the deal with it?

They have target date when tower has to be done, but hey, it's a hour pay, so let's put one beam every 3 hours up and we'll be a loaded with money...Who cares if our boss will pay penalty because we didn't build it at time...;)

There is nothing preventing the boss from firing dead weight and bringing in another Ironworker from the hall. Something I have done many times.

I doubt it would be an issue. I'm sure every worker at the site is proud to be there and shows it in his/her work.

Unless they declare no fly zone to lower manhattan and implant bomb monitors around the site, then I am not going into there or even into the site.


I would consider it a great honor to work in WTC1 and will apply for employment to every company that occupies the building and I'll relocate to NYC if/when hired. Most definitely.

There is nothing preventing the boss from firing dead weight and bringing in another Ironworker from the hall. Something I have done many times.

I doubt it would be an issue. I'm sure every worker at the site is proud to be there and shows it in his/her work.

I know that..I would be proud to work there too...:)
That sarcasm was for that guy who asked such a dumb question...:)

But I see an airplane in this picture. What's the deal with it?That plane is flying over New Jersey, across the Hudson from Manhattan, probably departing from Newark.

Rising up! Quick, quick, quick! :D

But I see an airplane in this picture. What's the deal with it?

I'm sure that's why that photographer chose that angle. To this day people in NYC are still startled by any plane flying over or near the WTC. The times we live in...

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But I see an airplane in this picture. What's the deal with it?

I guess it's approaching LGA or JFK, anyway really nice picture :cheers:

Unless they declare no fly zone to lower manhattan and implant bomb monitors around the site, then I am not going into there or even into the site.

Sure hope some guys from Al-Queda read this, as they shuld be really proud of their hard work! Yay! A job well done I say.

There are probably a lot more people who are afraid there'll be another Richard Reid when they're on a plane than there are people who are afraid that another plane will hit the WTC the day they happen to be visiting it. The chances of the latter are beyond infinitesimal.

Manhattan is a no fly zone, BENEATH a certain altitude...
Commercial planes flying to/from Newark, La Guardia or JFK are allowed :)

Unless they declare no fly zone to lower manhattan and implant bomb monitors around the site, then I am not going into there or even into the site.

Think about it the secrets out. Before 9/11 planes that were hijacked were for ransom and the people would be exchanged for money at an airport or something along those lines. Now if anyone tries hijacking a plane there is going to be 200 people that get up and beat the living sh*t out of the person because they know its either that or die in a crash. There is no way something like this could ever happen again, the people didnt know on those planes what the terrorists intentions were but now they do and they wont just stay seated if something like this happens again. I dont care what weapon you can sneak on a plane try fighting over a hundred pissed off people and see how it works out. The real problem now is trying to think what their going to try next now that that option is gone and the best bet would be a car bomb which is going to be extremely hard to get near these buildings with the way security is going to be. The new wtc complex is probally going to be the safest place to be in new york city, they have many other options they could use at some other landmark in new york which doesnt have rediculous security measures. Thats why all of new york has to keep a lookout for suspicious things like the guy who stopped the times square bomb, who is a hero. So go visit the new wtc!

^^^^ :cheers::cheers::cheers:

GreenwichBoy, August 13th..

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August 13th, 2010

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Excellent, now you can really start to see the curve the sides of the building make.

^^ its not curved lol its straight......

^^

Curved or straight, whatever you get what im going at

iis it done now?

....amazing how much bigger it looks with the addition of just 2 more floors!:banana:

If they keep up the schedule of two floors every two weeks....thats about four floors per month

2010:

August: 36
September: 40
October: 44
November: 48
December: 52

2011

January: 56
February: 60
March: 64
April: 68
May: 72
June: 76
July: 80
August: 84
September: 88
October: 92
November: 96
December: 100

So were looking at a signifigant impact on the skyline by this time next year, and topping out at the very end of 2011/ very beggining of 2012

iis it done now?

iis you retarded?

If they keep up the schedule of two floors every two weeks....thats about four floors per month

2010:

August: 36
September: 40
October: 44
November: 48
December: 52

2011

January: 56
February: 60
March: 64
April: 68
May: 72
June: 76
July: 80
August: 84
September: 88
October: 92
November: 96
December: 100

So were looking at a signifigant impact on the skyline by this time next year, and topping out at the very end of 2011/ very beggining of 2012

Two words: HOLY SHIT!!! :D

I really hope they'll keep that schedule!

One tiny thing there. The year has 52 weeks, not 48.

and topping out at the very end of 2011/ very beggining of 2012

Remember the spire. That will take while, wont it?

u mean they are in the 36th floor now? :o

iis it done now?

LOL

1WTC is really picking up speed now. I'm going to visit it early September so will take lots of photos.

Does anyone know when they will start on the facade? Thanks

Somebody asked that a few days ago, and the answer was third quarter of 2010. Which we are in, of course, so it might be soon.

If they keep up the schedule of two floors every two weeks....thats about four floors per month

2010:

August: 36
September: 40
October: 44
November: 48
December: 52

2011

January: 56
February: 60
March: 64
April: 68
May: 72
June: 76
July: 80
August: 84
September: 88
October: 92
November: 96
December: 100

So were looking at a signifigant impact on the skyline by this time next year, and topping out at the very end of 2011/ very beggining of 2012
By the schedule: WTC1 will be t/o in December of 2011; about cladding i assume in that date (December) the cladding should be installed, done in at least 60 - 70 floors (that's i think)

Think about it the secrets out. Before 9/11 planes that were hijacked were for ransom and the people would be exchanged for money at an airport or something along those lines. Now if anyone tries hijacking a plane there is going to be 200 people that get up and beat the living sh*t out of the person because they know its either that or die in a crash. There is no way something like this could ever happen again, the people didnt know on those planes what the terrorists intentions were but now they do and they wont just stay seated if something like this happens again. I dont care what weapon you can sneak on a plane try fighting over a hundred pissed off people and see how it works out. The real problem now is trying to think what their going to try next now that that option is gone and the best bet would be a car bomb which is going to be extremely hard to get near these buildings with the way security is going to be. The new wtc complex is probally going to be the safest place to be in new york city, they have many other options they could use at some other landmark in new york which doesnt have rediculous security measures. Thats why all of new york has to keep a lookout for suspicious things like the guy who stopped the times square bomb, who is a hero. So go visit the new wtc!

and besides, if such a hijack did happen again, it's not as if a no-fly zone in the area would be a deterrent.

Is this what I think it is? :)

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/2166/ghdq.png

Is this what I think it is? :)

omg so you think this... ? :)

omg so you think this... ? :)

Cladding? :)

Is this what I think it is? :)


It depends on what you think it is ;)

It depends on what you think it is ;)
"Gee, Brain, wha'dya think they need a truckload of smoked tuna and rubber bands for? Narf!"

Is this what I think it is? :)

The image is blurred; you probably talking about the stuff on the truck :dunno:

The image is blurred; you probably talking about the stuff on the truck :dunno:

Yes, I thought people would notice...It looks like part of the cladding to me...:)

Could be a grand piano for all I can make out.

Yes, I thought people would notice...It looks like part of the cladding to me...:)

At first I didn't think so because I thought that the cladding pieces were much bigger- but then I looked at the renders and it might be possible:
http://static.flickr.com/77/202631900_047ba88411_o.jpg

At first I didn't think so because I thought that the cladding pieces were much bigger- but then I looked at the renders and it might be possible:


I thought that too, but then I compered it to the truck cabin and I think it could be...They said it would be in the 3rd Q this year...That's now..:)

Here is another shot with better light.

Well, I'm not sure about it. But when it falls from the truck and breaks to peaces we know it was made of glass :D

http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/3980/cladding.jpg

^^

It doesn't really look like cladding in this picture...

Here's a mock-up of the facade...:)

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2008/04/09/nyregion/09freedom-650.jpg
Port Authority of New York and New Jersey

^
That's not the base cladding.

I still think this is glass...:shifty:

http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/2228/dhdr.png

http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/581/hzjfg.png

It looks like parts to that materials lift to me!

Although the color is pretty weird- they are in the current size to be cladding pieces.
Oh well, I guess we will have to wait a day or two in order to be sure.

Yeah, I see now...Fail...:laugh:

It´s growing fast right now!

Do you guys think they will start the office cladding before the base?

Do you guys think they will start the office cladding before the base?

According to the original construction schedule, the podium glass is to be first.

I`m a Norwegian (sorry for my english) who has followed this baby since before it was born, its great to see so much progress this summer, go back and check out pictures from e.g april 2010. AMAZING progress this summer. Sorry to see all negative comments about the progress on this forum, why cant we just enjoy this great building and it`s awakening? Lets hope the cladding is about to start and please do NOT write stupid comments when people believe they see that!

A little fun fact: This month, WTC1 will be higher than Norways tallest highrise, we don`t even have a skyscraper.

I don't think that it's cladding. It might be something going in the lobby, or perhaps entirely different

Those are hoist cabs.

Those are hoist cabs.

:fiddle:

A little update by Sherpa..14th August..

http://wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=10390&d=1281799448

http://wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=10391&d=1281799450

http://wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=10392&d=1281799451

http://wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=10393&d=1281799453

http://wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=10394&d=1281799455

http://wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=10396&d=1281799459

http://wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=10398&d=1281799462

http://wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=10399&d=1281799463

Nice updates ! It is progressing faster, nice cladding, too.

At first I didn't think so because I thought that the cladding pieces were much bigger- but then I looked at the renders and it might be possible:
http://static.flickr.com/77/202631900_047ba88411_o.jpg

This area is going to be so beautiful.

Some pictures i took form Downtown / Liberty Harbor Jersey City on friday

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4141/4890137217_a842c8a779_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4094/4890733684_2321d453b9_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4123/4890131899_1533caf4c8_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4095/4890723974_07a4aa42e1_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4102/4890723392_3fa1633a7e_b.jpg

That's a pretty cool/rare angle. It looks like it could have been taken just down the street from the WTC.

Imagine the WTC site in two years!

so many full skyscraper will be ,at there area...

...slightly off topic, but what is that stop-sign shaped object with the 2 US flags on top?

...slightly off topic, but what is that stop-sign shaped object with the 2 US flags on top?

Colgate clock

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/115/280960624_1ff7308cb1.jpg

http://www.njcu.edu/programs/jchistory/Pages/C_Pages/Colgate_Clock.htm

That's pretty damn ugly.

That's pretty damn ugly.


it really is quite unfortunate

From the Dutch newspaper De Volkskrant today:

http://www.xs4all.nl/~rbrinke/Photos/VK.jpg

BillSchintler posted this picture of 1WTC from the top of the Beekman Tower on wirednewyork

http://wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=10430&d=1281888147

Correct me if i'm wrong, but from what I understand, the floor area of each floor gradually diminishes towards the top. At first glance, I thought each floor would have similar areas.

My train of thought is in connection with the photo from the Dutch newspaper, showing the floor plate. The shape of each floor will be slightly different as the angular steel draws closer together until it meets in the middle. The floors at the top will form a square again, only rotated 45° and be roughly half the area of the bottom ones... It's a fascinating design!

Colgate clock

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/115/280960624_1ff7308cb1.jpg

http://www.njcu.edu/programs/jchistory/Pages/C_Pages/Colgate_Clock.htm

The Colgate Clock is an inconic part of the NYC metro -- just like the Pepsi sign across from Manhattan in LIC.

http://www.seatrekkers.net/images/39.Colgate.clock.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_F2h41g3D29M/SixU3h881eI/AAAAAAAAL9k/g9-TQeA0e3Y/s400/DSC_0082.jpg

Pepsi in LIC
http://www.gothamist.com/attachments/jen/2007_02_pepsisign2.jpg