^
coffins...

You cant be serious.....

http://www.panynj.gov/drp/gallery/showPics.php?year=07&month=cr05&pnav=crpicstble

pictures from May by the Port Authority (a month late too, well actually 2 but w/e).

http://www.pathrestoration.com/drp/images/WTCSiteOverlay8.jpg

http://www.pathrestoration.com/drp/images/WTCSiteOverlay8.jpg

thanks,three hundred:)




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^^ WOW! Best view of entire Ground Zero! Impressive! :applause:

^
coffins...

That's not funny. :ohno:

http://www.pathrestoration.com/drp/images/WTCSiteOverlay8.jpg
Wow great shot.. What do these numbers mean? Each tower?? What about WTC7?

^^ WTC 7 already got rebuilt. It is located just across from Ground Zero. It is blue shining glass tower.

Yeah, that's what i noticed about the number 7.. ^^

Obviously the numbers in that picture do not correspond to the tower numbers.

I knew that :sleepy:

wow

great pic Threehundred, have u a high-res version?

No.

Thanks for the pics Threehundred, it puts the sites of the towers more into perspective for me.

Hopefully it'll put to rest that nothing is going on because obviously alot is going on.

I don't get why this thread was updated to being 108 floors when it won't be anywere near that in occupied floors. Most count the height to the highest occupied floor if it's not at the roof. Either way, the FT wouldn't be the WTB b/c the SWFC is almost topped out and the Burj Dubai is already 2/3 complete. The fact that it only has a roof that is 1,335 ft wouldn't even make it the tallest in the US with the Chicago Trump Tower, which is 1,362 ft to the roof, is almost halfway up. This puts being the tallest in the world and nation to rest.

Well actually if we're talking about roof height, not the height of the spire, Trump is only 1170.9 feet. And just who is claiming that the FT will be the WTB? Dude. Come on with the tirade.

I don't get why this thread was updated to being 108 floors when it won't be anywere near that in occupied floors. Most count the height to the highest occupied floor if it's not at the roof. Either way, the FT wouldn't be the WTB b/c the SWFC is almost topped out and the Burj Dubai is already 2/3 complete. The fact that it only has a roof that is 1,335 ft wouldn't even make it the tallest in the US with the Chicago Trump Tower, which is 1,362 ft to the roof, is almost halfway up. This puts being the tallest in the world and nation to rest.


....there you go again.

I don't get why this thread was updated to being 108 floors when it won't be anywere near that in occupied floors. Most count the height to the highest occupied floor if it's not at the roof. Either way, the FT wouldn't be the WTB b/c the SWFC is almost topped out and the Burj Dubai is already 2/3 complete. The fact that it only has a roof that is 1,335 ft wouldn't even make it the tallest in the US with the Chicago Trump Tower, which is 1,362 ft to the roof, is almost halfway up. This puts being the tallest in the world and nation to rest.

When in the hell did anyone claim that FT will be the WTB?!

A while ago when not everyone is familar with Burj Dubai or Shanghai World Financial Center or any project. They immediately assumed that Freedom Tower would be become world's tallest building without knowing the facts first.

A while ago when not everyone is familar with Burj Dubai or Shanghai World Financial Center or any project. They immediately assumed that Freedom Tower would be become world's tallest building without knowing the facts first.

Yeah exactly! "A long time ago"! No one is claiming such things now because everyone obviously knows that there are projects u/c around the world that will be taller.

He might be getting it confused with the statement from Ebola(i think) about 1WTC being the tallest strictly office building.

And it WILL be the tallest office building in the world..

If it ever gets off the ground... :(

NYC in the future???

http://nymag.com/images/2/news/06/05/week5/2016/2016nyc060529_opener_560.jpg


1) Atlantic Yards, Brooklyn, phase one, 2010; phase two, 2016

2) The New Museum, Chelsea, future

3) 80 South Street, Downtown, future

4) IAC Headquarters, High Line, 2007

5) Silvercup West, Queens, 2009

6) Freedom Tower, Downtown, 2011


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Two of them are looking like a project for my city!, Malaga, Spain :) This one is 168 metres tall
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb24/AdemABorja/IMG_6167copiar.jpg

A while ago when not everyone is familar with Burj Dubai or Shanghai World Financial Center or any project. They immediately assumed that Freedom Tower would be become world's tallest building without knowing the facts first.

The thing is that there are people who do count structual height as part of the overall height. Others, count unoccupied floors as well. However, by the highest occupied floor it does fall short in a number of ways. Again, I didn't make up this information, it was from the PA website.

Its funny you mention that crazyaboutcities, some people I know who barely know anything about tall buildings or follow highrise projects still think the ESB in New York is the tallest building in the world only after 9/11. These are people whom miraculously have never heard of the Sears Tower in Chicago/Petronas Towers in KL or the less famous Taipei 101 and IFC in HK but do know of the Chrysler and late world trade center.

A while ago when not everyone is familar with Burj Dubai or Shanghai World Financial Center or any project. They immediately assumed that Freedom Tower would be become world's tallest building without knowing the facts first.

Haha yeah that's true.

Its funny you mention that crazyaboutcities, some people I know who barely know anything about tall buildings or follow highrise projects still think the ESB in New York is the tallest building in the world only after 9/11. These are people whom miraculously have never heard of the Sears Tower in Chicago/Petronas Towers in KL or the less famous Taipei 101 and IFC in HK but do know of the Chrysler and late world trade center.

Dude, I already know about these skyscrapers. I'm big time skyscraper nerd since age 7. I never believed anyone who claimed that Freedom Tower will be World's Tallest Building because I already know about Burj Dubai, SFWC, etc. before Freedom Tower came up.

However, these people who don't know much about these buildings. I know many people are like that too. All I can do just to educate them. Sometime they asks me the questions and I answer their questions.

Yeah exactly! "A long time ago"! No one is claiming such things now because everyone obviously knows that there are projects u/c around the world that will be taller.

Unforunately, not everyone is aware of it yet. I met some people that thought CN Tower is world's tallest building. Some of them thought Sears Tower is world's tallest buliding. Believe it or not, one of them thought Columbia Center (Seattle's tallest) is world's tallest building. I had to correct them and educate them. Not everyone is thinking outside of the box.

The thing is that there are people who do count structual height as part of the overall height. Others, count unoccupied floors as well. However, by the highest occupied floor it does fall short in a number of ways. Again, I didn't make up this information, it was from the PA website.

Yeah. Each individual has its own defination of the height. Not everyone will agree with each other over same subject, ever.

pic from July 17th:

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1106/848171187_98732e9de7_o.jpg

thanks,ZZ-II:)

What is that blue thing doing?

^^ pouring concrete :banana:
probably for the foundation.
further I see a lot of steel and... formwork on the bottom of the picture, so something is rising outside the core :cheers:

They seem to be pouring concrete between the two cranes. Also i think the blue canisters are to hold concrete as the site is becoming a bit crowded.

great pic!

^^ pouring concrete :banana:
probably for the foundation.
further I see a lot of steel and... formwork on the bottom of the picture, so something is rising outside the core :cheers:

Goooood finally some progress:cheers2:

I'm waiting for a construction boost!!

YAY! For update! Great picture! :cheers:

I can see steel columns ready for concrete pouring.... Are these the tower foundation columns????

I can see steel columns ready for concrete pouring.... Are these the tower foundation columns????

I think they are....

very exciting.........

Finally we can se progress in this tower..

I can see steel columns ready for concrete pouring.... Are these the tower foundation columns????

yes they are. that's what i meant with "there's something rising in front of the old steel-columns" :)

What are they going to use to pour the concrete once the core starts rising above ground?

^^ For the foundations and the lower parts of the building they use mobile pumping trucks. You've already seen one in action in ZZ-II's post.
but here another shot as these trucks are really cool.
http://www.mgold.co.il/JJRZ50-5.16H_1.jpg

When the tower grows further they'll probably use a fixed pumping platform (concrete placing boom). something like this:
http://img.alibaba.com/photo/51136345/Concrete_Placing_Boom__HG41B_.jpg

There're are other options depending on the construction methode.
If you want more info go ahead and ask :)

Then something else. I noticed they're installing something that could be formwork between the wall and the steel columns. If so we'll have the first part of the first floor soon :cheers:
Here's the pic:
http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/4746/earthcam4tf1.jpg

Wow!!!The advancement of the concrete pouring is very noticed@@

Excellent process! :cheers:

Ok we'll see what will be next

http://img26.picoodle.com/img/img26/9/7/21/f_1245m_546542d.jpg

thanks,rogerick1970

Yes the progress is very interesting. Thanks everyone who posted the pics. :cheers:

[QUOTE=Carlos123;14248351]NYC in the future???

http://nymag.com/images/2/news/06/05/week5/2016/2016nyc060529_opener_560.jpg


I don`t like number 3, it looks like in Shanghai, too sportive, not really american. Think the USA needs strong houses, like pillars (like ESB, Sears, Hancock).:guns1:
Might be nice architecture, very futuristic, but its more than a playground than an empire!

yeah 3 is sooooooooo shanghai because it has holes in it.

I'm used to a completely different building technique so I really can't make out at all what is supposed to be progressing in there or how.

^ I agree. This building is being built in a way that I've never seen before.

i wonder how they will build #3. it seems like it would be tricky.

hey threehundred, what does you signature mean?

^ Download 'Emergency' by Kelis.

Btw..#3 is 80 South Street. No one knows the status on it though.

http://www.meshsf.com/blog3/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/80southstreetny.jpg

that looks wrong for new york:nuts:

^^ Agreed.

I disagree. I think that many US cities should build bold designs. Some of our skylines are starting to age and need something fresh to wake them up. Which is why I hope 80 South Street gets built.

But I've derailed the thread. Back to FT.

cant wait....i cant wait...those responsable for that tragic day...will see..THAT YOU CANT BREAK OUR SPIRIT...WE WILL REBUILD ! ! ! ! !

I love it.. Is a new kind of "tower" for NY hehe

I love it.. Is a new kind of "tower" for NY hehe

no way my beautiful city is way too preety for this beyond ugly contraption they cant and must not build this.

#3 looks cool to me.

80 south looks like a kiddie toy.

we think these designs are all cool and futuristic now, but in 20 years, a number of our new buildings will be considered hideous, such as all those dubai buildings, the chicago spire. buildings like the freedom tower,SWFC, etc., will become classics like empire state building.

^^ I agree with you. the same will happen as in the US. once the skylines of LA and Boston looked very modern, now they've become outdated and ugly.
the solution is building new skyscrapers all the time :cheers:

now let's go back to topic

i like the LA skyline:)

[QUOTE=Carlos123;14248351]NYC in the future???

http://nymag.com/images/2/news/06/05/week5/2016/2016nyc060529_opener_560.jpg


I don`t like number 3, it looks like in Shanghai, too sportive, not really american. Think the USA needs strong houses, like pillars (like ESB, Sears, Hancock).:guns1:
Might be nice architecture, very futuristic, but its more than a playground than an empire!

:D

I haven't seen the cam in over a week. It's nice to see all of the progress. It looks like most of the bottom part of the core is poured and FT's neighbor got a good 30 feet taller since I last saw her. The last article I read mentioned that 80 South Street was still alive.

#3, is that a tower of Calatrava?

I found something: http://www.calatrava.com/main.htm Search: Current projects and than 80south street NY

The WTC Construction Video Project


High Res Version:
640x480 (http://www.warclan.net/Downloads/Freedom_Tower.wmv)


Updated through 7/22

Hey fellow American SSC Brothers!! :D

How is this nice building doing in its progress????

Images required to see if possible :)

Cheers :cheers:

thx dwalden, also with that distance i can see much progress

#3, is that a tower of Calatrava?

I found something: http://www.calatrava.com/main.htm Search: Current projects and than 80south street NY
I didnt know that.. I like it.

The WTC Construction Video Project



Updated through 7/22

thanks, it's great to watch. can't wait for the next update :cheers:

The WTC Construction Video Project



Updated through 7/22

Great video, thanks!

From SSP. You can clearly see progress. Slowly but surely:

That's true. This time next year, steel will be rising over the site, and every
tower except 5 will be under construction...:yes:

JULY 22, 2007

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/82706943/large.jpg


http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/82706953/large.jpg


http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/82706962/large.jpg


http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/82706974/large.jpg


http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/82706996/large.jpg


http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/82706999/large.jpg


http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/82706999/original.jpg

do the steel beams serve any structural purpose? or are they there just for the publicity stunt?

Great pictures! :) I heard that new hotel will be built next to Ground Zero from New York City Development News thread. Anyone has specific location for this new hotel and rendering to see what it will look like?

do the steel beams serve any structural purpose? or are they there just for the publicity stunt?

It is part of the structure.

thx for posting threehundred, great to see some details of the plot :)

On the fifth picture from 22nd july the building which is under construction at west street you can see it behind the bridge over west street.What is its name and do we have a thread for it???

i don't know which tower that is. also i don't believe we've a thread for it.
but i'm sure they've one on SSP :)

More excellent photos, thanks Threehundred!

do the steel beams serve any structural purpose? or are they there just for the publicity stunt?

Was that a serious question?

Was that a serious question?

Well you can't exactly blame him for asking that.

Quite a bit of time has passed since those columns were erected, and as you can see, not very much else has happened aside from installing 2 tower cranes.

There is undoubtedly a lot going on underground, but from what we can see, about the only thing that changes is that stuff gets shuffled around down there in that hole every few days.

Okay, today lets move this shit over here, and that stuff over there. Tomorrow move all that shit back over to here. And the day after that, move it all over there. . . If they're not really going to let us work on building this tower, then we'll just make it look like we are!!!

Hopefully, we'll start to see some real progress soon.

Well you can't exactly blame him for asking that.

Quite a bit of time has passed since those columns were erected, and as you can see, not very much else has happened aside from installing 2 tower cranes.

There is undoubtedly a lot going on underground, but from what we can see, about the only thing that changes is that stuff gets shuffled around down there in that hole every few days.

Okay, today lets move this shit over here, and that stuff over there. Tomorrow move all that shit back over to here. And the day after that, move it all over there. . . If they're not really going to let us work on building this tower, then we'll just make it look like we are!!!

Hopefully, we'll start to see some real progress soon.

Two Words... Larry Silverstein!

Was that a serious question?

well it's silly that they've been there for a very long time and nothing else has happened... all i can remember about it is seeing it on tv where familys signed their names on the beams or whatever.

Nice tower, but is it just me or does the new WTC look a fair bit like the cancelled Kowloon MTR Tower?

http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=9189

Was that a serious question?

he has a point, the beams are part of the main structure. but they where placed as a publicity stunt to show people that something is happening.

Nice tower, but is it just me or does the new WTC look a fair bit like the cancelled Kowloon MTR Tower?

http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=9189

It´s you, I don´t think it looks like the WTC, really not!! A whole other shape

way is it going so slooooo ? end is this bulding going to get an concrete core ?

do the steel beams serve any structural purpose? or are they there just for the publicity stunt?


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Nice tower, but is it just me or does the new WTC look a fair bit like the cancelled Kowloon MTR Tower?

http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=9189

actually, what you posted looks like the Washington monument in D.C.!
are you sure they didnt copy the design? ;)

way is it going so slooooo ? end is this bulding going to get an concrete core ?

it's a quite normal speed for making the foundation of the tower. soon the foundations will be finnished and you'll see more visible progress.
the core of the tower will indeed be made of concrete. this is because of fire safety

Foundation is almost complete......looks like they are erecting a new steel beam?

for a newer image and controls go here:
http://www.earthcam.net/users2/interface.php?i=0&id=445&projectid=202&clientid=158
updates every 15 min.

Good update

All I've been seeing is a stream of concrete trucks. It looks like they will be placing beams where that road will be.

All I've been seeing is a stream of concrete trucks. It looks like they will be placing beams where that road will be.

yeah,then the trucks will drive BETWEEN the steel poles:lol:

could someone draw around the service core in paint, i just am all confused over this whole site.

service core for the freedom tower btw

^^ sure.
http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/308/earthcam5qb7.jpg

You can clearly see the progress on the Route 9A Underpass. The wall one the left (hardly visible) has been poured and its formwork was been disabled today. They are now installing the formwork for the first floor for the underpass project. They also seem to be finnished with the foundation of the core. I'm not sure about the foundations of the walls. One side is ready (the one with the steel colums) and one side I see rebar comming out of concrete footings, so they seem to be ready imo. About the other two sides I'm not sure. The PATH rail lays there, so it will be interresting to see how they make the supports over there.
In the darkblue you see some footings which are unknown to me. Maybe manholes for the sewer or the drain?

thanks,tag_one:banana: :banana:

What is the purpose for building an underpass for the West Side Highway?

What is the purpose for building an underpass for the West Side Highway?

I don't know.

What is the purpose for building an underpass for the West Side Highway?

It's not a underpass for the 9A, it's a passangers underpass connecting the WFC with the FT and the transit hub. Don't blame me for the misleading name, the Port Authorities came up with it :lol:

I don't see why they can't just use the bridge that is already there.

Good update, nice to see it getting underway.

more remains found today.....about 35 people dead....:(

Do they found 35 bones or 35 people? :(

Remains in the construction site? Doesn't surprise me, it IS New York... any other info on who and where the remains came from?

Man that is quite scary yet sad.

http://www.ny1.com/ny1/content/index.jsp?&aid=72037&search_result=1&stid=8


:ohno:

More Possible Human Remains Found At WTC Site

July 26, 2007

Workers have found 65 potential human remains at the World Trade Center site over the last two days.

The medical examiners office says they were recovered from the Liberty Street section of the site.

The remains will be tested to see if they belong to 9/11 victims.

City officials announced earlier this month that the search for remains was expanding and will continue for the foreseeable future.




http://www.ny1.com/ny1/content/index.jsp?stid=1&aid=72031


September 11th Rescue Dog Dies Of Cancer

July 26, 2007

A black Labrador named Jake who became a four-legged hero in the aftermath of September 11th was put to sleep Wednesday after a battle with cancer.

The pup from Utah helped rescue workers search through the rubble at the World Trade Center site and later worked in Mississippi after Hurricane Katrina.

The 12-year-old was one of less than 200 federally-certified rescue dogs.

There have been reports from some rescue dog owners that their animals became sick from working at the Trade Center site.

Autopsy results on Jake's body will be part of a medical study of September 11th search-and-rescue dogs.

Oh I see... remains of those from 9/11... that's kind of fucked up.

^^ Agreed.

:( Sad to hear there are more remains.

Remains in the construction site? Doesn't surprise me, it IS New York... any other info on who and where the remains came from?

Ahhaaa... too much Soprano-watching.

The families have been constantly complaining about more thorough searches, the finding of remains, while good in providing closure to the families affected, I imagine will slow down construction efforts.

^^ yay! just what we need, slower construction.

freedom tower delays :lol: :lol:

http://www.theonion.com/content/video/al_qaeda_also_fed_up_with_ground?utm_source=videomrss_64315

That's not funny

Its not surprising through is it. Everyone knows there are 100s more peoples remains on that site. Some won't be found but alot more will. The Families can complain all they want but when the workers dig and remove rubble you are going to find bones etc where afew 1000 people died. They can either leave the site has a big hole or get on with it and move on. If someone I knew had died on that site I wouldn't want it left as it is! I'd want them to build something amazing.

freedom tower delays :lol: :lol:

http://www.theonion.com/content/video/al_qaeda_also_fed_up_with_ground?utm_source=videomrss_64315

oh please, ofcourse its funny, has bad taste, but it is funny.

Thanks for post 1606:)

my friends dad does steel for the frames and such of buildings.
he offered to do the tower
and his company got the job.
it is supposed to start in about 2 weeks, from what i heard.

small update:
They're placing formwork around the bottom parts of the big steel beams and filling them with concrete. not really spectacular, but the beams seem to have a purpose now instead of being eye candies :lol:

freedom tower delays :lol: :lol:

http://www.theonion.com/content/video/al_qaeda_also_fed_up_with_ground?utm_source=videomrss_64315
:nuts:

small update:
They're placing formwork around the bottom parts of the big steel beams and filling them with concrete. not really spectacular, but the beams seem to have a purpose now instead of being eye candies :lol:

:okay:, that sounds good.

sad to hear bout the remains....hope its resolved respectfully...and with care...keep on building

i wonder if they will find any more remains. i hope not.

so, any updated pictures?

one thing i dont understand is why they had to build a spire to hit 1776ft. they should have made the roof hight this high.

Yeah, and the roof 541 meteres and the spire should be higher..

I always felt it would be perfect with a roof height of 1776 and a spire height of 2001. Although i must admit the FT is a much better design then the previous ones that were only 60 storys with 500 feet of glass on top.

yeah a spire to 2001 ft would be great.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1034/942643680_11a1cc876f_b.jpg

source: myfreebird flickr (http://www.flickr.com/photos/karenandbailey/)

I always felt it would be perfect with a roof height of 1776 and a spire height of 2001...

I perfectly agree. The spire height might be 2011 or 2012, though (the year when the tower is ready).

From 1368 to 1776 feet, something like the top of the ESB could be made, and then, from 1776 to 2001+, a large spire like in the current project.
Every tower in the world is cheating like that at this time, so I can't see why FT should not!

Fabrizio
Italy

damn dude, you've been here since 2005 and you've only posted once?

sill though i agree with you.

Thanks for the picture New Jack City!
You can clearly see that foundation work is almost finnished.

If this building is supposed to be above grade by January, it should start rising very soon.

to bad . that would be a real good memorial then too. no chance.

http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/07/30/it-seems-that-freedom-is-just-another-name-for-1-world-trade-center/

Apparently the tower is no longer being referred to as the Freedom Tower, but instead as 1WTC. Not a bad thing IMO

damn dude, you've been here since 2005 and you've only posted once?

sill though i agree with you.

I browse this site every day and hardly post too :)

But one post since 2005 is impressive

http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/07/30/it-seems-that-freedom-is-just-another-name-for-1-world-trade-center/

Apparently the tower is no longer being referred to as the Freedom Tower, but instead as 1WTC. Not a bad thing IMOI preffer Freedom Tower..

http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/07/30/it-seems-that-freedom-is-just-another-name-for-1-world-trade-center/

Apparently the tower is no longer being referred to as the Freedom Tower, but instead as 1WTC. Not a bad thing IMO

I don't prefer the cheesy name "Freedom Tower" but I'd also prefer it not be referred to simply "1 World Trade Center" which would effectively kill the name/identities of the original WTC.

We can always call it the Elitists Tower in that it was picked by an elite lead by George Pataki.

I don't prefer the cheesy name "Freedom Tower" but I'd also prefer it not be referred to simply "1 World Trade Center" which would effectively kill the name/identities of the original WTC.

Yes I would have to agree, Id prefer it all to be called the World Trade center, but this tower to have a significant or catchy name with as little cheese involved as possible.

As much as I hate all the complaints about it, I have to say that it will be embarrassing if the Chi Spire is finished before the FT.

As much as I hate all the complaints about it, I have to say that it will be embarrassing if the Chi Spire is finished before the FT.

At this point, that really is starting to seem likely.

FT...or 1WTC...doesnt matter....and i know we cant rebuild the same old Twins...but to have 2 FT's or 1WTC North/South would be marvelous...IMO

As much as I hate all the complaints about it, I have to say that it will be embarrassing if the Chi Spire is finished before the FT.

I wouldn't find that very surprising.

July 31, 2007

on my way from 60 Wall street, I took a detour to the WTC construction site......most of the sidewalk is closed....except for the area around the PATH entrance.............

the whole area is buzzing with activity.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v109/nyctowers/2007/Picture347.jpg


:)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v109/nyctowers/2007/Picture349.jpg



:)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v109/nyctowers/2007/Picture352.jpg



:(

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v109/nyctowers/2007/Picture354.jpg


tourists most likely from the midwest...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v109/nyctowers/2007/Picture356.jpg



:)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v109/nyctowers/2007/Picture357.jpg

i think im more excited about the new goldman sachs headquarters cause you can actually see it being built!

Good photos! Much promising conditions

FT...or 1WTC...doesnt matter....and i know we cant rebuild the same old Twins...but to have 2 FT's or 1WTC North/South would be marvelous...IMO

I agree, two Freedom towers/1wtc would look stunning

It seems that progress on the Chicago Spire is flying compared to this building. By the way, keep the name Freedom Tower. It's a small price to pay to honor the memories of all who died on that very site. This beautiful building isn't just a functional office structure, it's also a memorial. Those who forget history are deemed to repeat it.

The WTC Construction Video Project


High Res Version:
640x480 (http://www.warclan.net/Downloads/Freedom_Tower.wmv)


Updated through 8/1

thanx for the video..

yea. now theres even more delay becase theyre moving the 9/11 memorial to a nearby park, all the families are really mad now.

does anybody know of any new supertalls being proposed in ny that would top out taller then the FT

Ahhaaa... too much Soprano-watching.

Haha :lol:
Nah I don't even watch tv at all really.
I was kidding about that though, it was a bit of sarcasm.

does anybody know of any new supertalls being proposed in ny that would top out taller then the FT

umm maybe midtown towers? who knows

damn all the delays are just ruining this tower. im more excited about the talk of the westside proposals then watching this just get delayed and delayed. this was suppose to be under construction years ago, before chicago spire was even thoiught of.

I'm very disappointed with the process to rebuild WTC. :ohno: If they continue postponing... One day they couldn't afford to rebuild WTC complex since the construction costs are skyrocketing lately... That is embrassing for WTC complex to fall way behind than the rest of projects that are happening around the world. Please REBUILD WTC NOW NOT LATER! :bash:

thats very true. i could very well see this get cancelled after all the preparetion and hype. is that possible thoug, to cancel this construction??

Of any project I've always been certain that FT would be built, no matter what the cost, and especially since the office market upturn. The building's cancellation would be a national embarassment. Don't even think about it.

I'm very disappointed with the process to rebuild WTC. :ohno: If they continue postponing... One day they couldn't afford to rebuild WTC complex since the construction costs are skyrocketing lately... That is embrassing for WTC complex to fall way behind than the rest of projects that are happening around the world. Please REBUILD WTC NOW NOT LATER! :bash:

What delays are you talking about. There have been no delays to date since construction started last year and if you have looked at the webcam recenlty, formwork is up around the core so it can start rising.

omg so many supertalls going up in the us, this is sooo crazy!! but i said that in a good way of course ;)

First look at the loby:

http://nymag.com/daily/intel/20070802freedomlobby.jpg

Cool N.J.C.

The render portays quite a lot of natural light. So different to expectations due to the heavy fortified base.

I say they get rid of that wall over there, not really inviting...looks very corporate to me for a building that will also include many tourist activities.

Really is a difference in different times compared to the original WTC lobby:

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1016/743846300_a4ceaa44f0_o.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v190/Muse11/world-trade-tower-1-lobby1.jpg

Perhaps it is to give a solid, strong & secure feeling, due to the recent unfortunate history...and yes, the original WTC's lobby areas were full of light. Yamasaki intended it to be cathedral-like.

^Fair point. I just get the corporate, any office tower on 5th Ave feel from it, my expectations are something special, unique for such an important centerpiece for the city and the site. Perhaps my expectations are too high. Of course, you have to consider the needs of the tenants too.

Oh, SOM quote on the base...

SOM's TJ Gottediener thusly: "The lobby sheds light into the memorial pool. And the front door is celebrated."

"Front door is celebrated"? lol I wish my front door would be celebrated.........by dates ;)

The original's ambience was graet. Remembered so well. :( The chrome tubs were always dire though.

...

Will this be the tallest out of the new towers? (WTC towers)

Yeah, the tallest tower in NY too.

yea, but it won't be for long. And by the time the families of 9/11 agree and stop protesting and causing a big fuss, and they start building it at a fast and steady pace, there may be a supertall on the westside taller then it , maybe taller then the chi spire, but i doubt the governer would like to have it. Who knows??

I doubt higher than the CS.

Nice render, I'm kinda like the secure feeling it gives off, but I also think it could make it a little cramped. I can't really determine how I feel with just that one render.

I also thought that there has not been any delays at the 1WTC site since construction began...maybe I'm missing a bit of info?

There has been no delays. It is just people in this forum overdramatizing news that is posted here.

Also just noticed that Port Authority posted pics for June half a month late:

http://www.panynj.gov/drp/gallery/showPics.php?year=07&month=cr06&pnav=crpicstble

nice building

wait, when wiill it finally start going up,??

There has been no delays. It is just people in this forum overdramatizing news that is posted here.

Also just noticed that Port Authority posted pics for June half a month late:

http://www.panynj.gov/drp/gallery/showPics.php?year=07&month=cr06&pnav=crpicstble

No delays but you can even admit this whole process has dragged on long enough. I don't expect it to rise fast either, as it's gonna be taking extra safety precautions.

New 7 WTC itself took 4 years to build and it's a much shorter and less complicating design.

tourists most likely from the midwest...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v109/nyctowers/2007/Picture356.jpg

Why do you think they're from the Midwest?

They look clueless. definetly aint from ny, lokin like that. no offense

Why do you think they're from the Midwest?

He has a nametag that says "Lars Andersen"? :dunno: Just a guess. :lol:

They look clueless. definetly aint from ny, lokin like that. no offense

That and the cameras, fanny packs, etc...

Also, no business garb/work attire for being in lower Manhattan.

Why do you think they're from the Midwest?
Probably not Chicagoans either; they look like they've never seen buildings before. :lol:

When's the new PATH terminal going to be finished?

Actually, I can find so many of people who look like that picture... They might comes from Bakersfield, California.

There has been no delays. It is just people in this forum overdramatizing news that is posted here.

Also just noticed that Port Authority posted pics for June half a month late:

http://www.panynj.gov/drp/gallery/showPics.php?year=07&month=cr06&pnav=crpicstble

They always put updates that are a month old.

They always put updates that are a month old.

I said half month because they were posted on August 2nd instead of the middle of July for the June pictures.

Does anyone know what buisnesses are going to be moving in. or is it too early to tell.

^^ I asked that question twice. No one answer it. It is seen like no one knows it yet.

^^ I asked that question twice. No one answer it. It is seen like no one knows it yet.

No corporate tenants have committed yet. However, a recent article just yesterday showed that Lower Manhattan is back to it's pre-9/11 vacancy rate at 6.5%. New 7 WTC is about 75% filled up.

Only tenants so far:

The State of New York has agreed to a 15 year lease of 415,000 square feet (38,550 square meter) of space in the Freedom Tower, with an option to extend the term of the lease and occupy up to 1,000,000 square feet (92,900 square meter). The General Services Administration (GSA) has agreed to lease over 600,000 square feet (55,700 square meter) of space.

Looks like some concrete has been poured.

http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/7140/ft1fr9.jpg

And if you look closely at the steel beams to the right at the bottom it has concrete poured around it too. The concrete that you pointed out is about 8-10 feet off the ground so that part of the project seems to be moving quickly now.

it seems that they're working in the first floor, isnt it?

it seems that they're working in the first floor, isnt it?

i'm not sure if all what they're doing left of the big steel-collums still counts to the tower itself.

Even the past few weeks it finally seems that we are seeing noticeable progress compared to before that when it really seemed like nothing was happening

Does anyone know what buisnesses are going to be moving in. or is it too early to tell.

There were never any private tennants since it was released, which is why the renderings are always translucent and that the lobby doesn't show anything specific.

I hope we see some cladding soon!

I hope we see some cladding soon!

It hasn't even risen abouve ground level yet...

Look at how long it took for the cladding to go on on the old WTC:

http://img467.imageshack.us/img467/4128/13tz6.png

I my personal opinion, the construction of the tower is too slow. I visited the site every month and I don't see much progress in the area.

I hope we see some cladding soon!

are you sure you mean the freedom tower :lol:?

I my personal opinion, the construction of the tower is too slow. I visited the site every month and I don't see much progress in the area.

I look at the webcam daily and there is little or no change going on, but it's not like I am expecting it to be done in the near future.

It hasn't even risen abouve ground level yet...

Look at how long it took for the cladding to go on on the old WTC:



hey at least they didnt 'burj dubai' the old twin towers.. thats not a pleasant color to have 2 400meter towers unclad.
but yeah. I was j/k of course

^^ Hehe... I think you've coined a new term: To 'Burj Dubai,' to... what exactly would it be?

August 7 pictures on a hot, steamy and sticky day and gray 92 F/33 C degree day...

I skipped lunch to take these pictures!

Birth of a new skyline...

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z152/jackssc/e0688c82.jpg

Tower focus:

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z152/jackssc/bea4de2f.jpg

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z152/jackssc/f1a73bdc.jpg

BONUS:

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z152/jackssc/IMG_0992.jpg

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z152/jackssc/994769aa.jpg

Fkin A

great photos^^

Hey, i found web cam from ground zero :cheers:

http://www.earthcam.com/usa/newyork/groundzero/ ^^ :banana:

not new..

http://www.earthcam.net/users2/interface.php?i=0&id=445&projectid=202&clientid=158

that's the right page for this cam

I'm sure they're considering the costs of building this tower. Unlike in Dubai, I don't think there's not that much cheap workers to build the Freedom tower 24/7. I totally understand u being so impatient, but hey, it will be built. And when it's done, it will dominate the whole New York area. I personally think this tower will be the "Crown of Manhattan" as cliché it might sound like :) Imagine how tall and "powerful" it will be, as the old WTC towers were so dominating too.

not new..

http://www.earthcam.net/users2/interface.php?i=0&id=445&projectid=202&clientid=158

that's the right page for this cam

I already posted that!!:bash:

Unionized construction workers from my understanding can make up to $95 an hour and crane operators over $100 if I recall so it is not like labor is very cheap like you said in Dubai.

I don't know why people complain about construction being slow. If all you're going to do is whine, don't look at the cam for 1 month; then look at it and you'll see plenty of progress. Right now is the time when things are going to get exciting.

^^ the last few days they're working a bit slower than before. They're really taking their time to install the formwork, but I'll gues thats just because of the weather. 33C and humid is the best working condition :lol:

We'll have to wait a while before the core starts to rise, the southcrane is needed for the installing of the formwork en the pouring of concrete. The north crane is still needed for the FT foundation.
Does anyone actualy know when the drilling of the secantpiles of the East bathtub will be ready? I can't get any info about it and I'll gues they would be ready within a few weeks

I don't know why people complain about construction being slow. If all you're going to do is whine, don't look at the cam for 1 month; then look at it and you'll see plenty of progress. Right now is the time when things are going to get exciting.

there's much progress the last weeks. i can see one every day on the cam

Just wondering... will we see any progress during winter, or do they stop construction until the summer months?

im pretty sure they always work throughout the winters.. if they didnt all skyscrapers constructed would take much longer to be completed

I look at the webcam daily and there is little or no change going on, but it's not like I am expecting it to be done in the near future.
I hope that the construction gets faster 'cause is a great project for the city. Is like a reborn for this wonderful city.

is it eney progress at all ? i cant see that in the pic`s so far !
look at the progress in dubai ! wat they acivd in 2 1/2 year while they have to dicide whitch bulding they shuld buld on this cite

Who gives a shit about what Dubai does? Btw.. the time it took for the the foundations for The Torch, 23 Marina, Marina 101, Princess Tower and others is equal to or longer than it's taking for 1 WTC to rise. So don't give me that bullshit.

This is for everyone: If all you are going to do is bitch, moan, and cry about why it's taking this tower so long to rise, then don't open this thread. Go bust a nut over the Burj until then. OOOO....THX 4 THA UPDATES!!!111

Dumbass people.

well....im changing my mind...want this to go slow...cause when its done...itll suck

Does anybody know why the height is 1775 now? What happened to those beautiful twelve inches? I sure miss them.

Does anybody know why the height is 1775 now? What happened to those beautiful twelve inches? I sure miss them.

I wouldn't put much stock in the headline, it's just roundoff error. Originally the height was quoted 1776 feet (for obvious reasons). Converted to meters, that's about 541.3 which was rounded to 541 which is what all the meter people have been quoting forever, and so probably someone converted back to feet from 541 meters which comes back to 1775 because of the round off error, having forgotten that this will be exactly 1776 feet for symbolic reasons.

well....im changing my mind...want this to go slow...cause when its done...itll suck

i'm sure it will look great......not as good as the old WTC twins but still great

The work won't stop in the winter. The NY Times article i read earlier in the year said they are supposed to reach ground level next spring. Than after that you will see the start of the building of the actual tower. Theres a ton of interconnected projects going on as you know. With the Memorial, subway, Path station all being worked on at the same time. I could only imagine how complex this must be. But they did it the first time back in the 1960's. In that case it was harder, they had to invent the slurry wall and move tons of dirt.

^
plus at the same time create land for Battery Park City... :)

The work won't stop in the winter. The NY Times article i read earlier in the year said they are supposed to reach ground level next spring. Than after that you will see the start of the building of the actual tower. Theres a ton of interconnected projects going on as you know. With the Memorial, subway, Path station all being worked on at the same time. I could only imagine how complex this must be. But they did it the first time back in the 1960's. In that case it was harder, they had to invent the slurry wall and move tons of dirt.

True. But this time it psychologically heavier; every time they disable a sewerpipe or a manhole they find human remains of the victims of 9/11

Year 1776 - Declaration of independence

Who gives a shit about what Dubai does? Btw.. the time it took for the the foundations for The Torch, 23 Marina, Marina 101, Princess Tower and others is equal to or longer than it's taking for 1 WTC to rise. So don't give me that bullshit.

This is for everyone: If all you are going to do is bitch, moan, and cry about why it's taking this tower so long to rise, then don't open this thread. Go bust a nut over the Burj until then. OOOO....THX 4 THA UPDATES!!!111

Dumbass people.
If you don't like what some people are saying, then don't read their posts, b/c nobody is forcing you to do so. The reason why there are people complaining is b/c of the slow process. The only thing that is going forward is the new pathway and the transit hub, while the rest is pretty much the same. On a sidenote, cut the personal attacks you said at the end.

foto courtesy of from alonzo-ny wny

http://i10.tinypic.com/4xvom7l.jpg

David Child's blatant rip-off of the Freedom Tower for Astana, Kazakhstan :(

^^ That development is too much and boring. It is like tract skyscraper development. I don't like it at all. :ohno:

The tower at the end looks like a mixture of Freedom Tower and SWFC but alot shorter.

^ That's pretty much the exact shape/design of 1WTC. SFWC not so much lol.

It's a 45° twisted square on top like on 1WTC, SWFC is a much different design based on arc-of-a-circle cut all the way up 2 corners.

David Childs is known for ripping-off other designs...it's not anything new. He's a corporate architect that appeals to his clients.

If you don't like what some people are saying, then don't read their posts, b/c nobody is forcing you to do so. The reason why there are people complaining is b/c of the slow process. The only thing that is going forward is the new pathway and the transit hub, while the rest is pretty much the same. On a sidenote, cut the personal attacks you said at the end.

Don't tell me what I can and cannot say. If every other post is 'Oh..so slow' and yadda yadda then it gets really old. That's like on the Burj thread where every post is 'Thanks for the updates.' It's silly and pointless. This building is moving at the speed of a skyscraper it's size.

That is just theft of this design. I would sue him if I were the WTC architect.

foto courtesy of from alonzo-ny wny

http://i10.tinypic.com/4xvom7l.jpg

David Child's blatant rip-off of the Freedom Tower for Astana, Kazakhstan :(

Such a copy!

^^ Bloody hell! What a rip!

courtesy of PANYNJ

keep it coming love....

:banana:

http://www.panynj.gov/info/images/wtc_progress5.jpg



http://www.panynj.gov/info/images/wtc_progress2.jpg



http://www.panynj.gov/info/images/wtc_progress4.jpg



http://www.panynj.gov/info/images/wtc_progress3.jpg

^^ WOW! It is looking like they're very busy rebuilding WTC complex! I can see TONS of process that are happening at Ground Zero!

Thank you PANYNJ and Carlos for posting. Those are some nice pics my friend :okay:

Thanks for the pictures Carlos! You can clearly see that the foundations of the core and the perimeter wall are finnished. I guess we'll see the core starting to rise very soon. :cheers:

its soo crowded. hehe

Just imagine this view in 5 years: Courtesy of Wired New York.

http://img39.picoodle.com/img/img39/9/8/11/f_wtc1m_b0d11d4.jpg
http://img03.picoodle.com/img/img03/9/8/11/f_wtc2m_800b047.jpg
http://img02.picoodle.com/img/img02/9/8/11/f_wtc3m_bec18d7.jpg
http://img34.picoodle.com/img/img34/9/8/11/f_wtc4m_3498add.jpg