I'm new to this wonderful site and wanted my first post to be in this thread. I loved the old World Trade Center--were probably my favorite buildings and had the privilege of standing on the roof, and now I can't wait to see the Freedom Tower completed. I love architecture and especially skyscrapers so this message board is really great. So Merry Christmas and happy holidays to everyone:)

I'm new to this wonderful site and wanted my first post to be in this thread. I loved the old World Trade Center--were probably my favorite buildings and had the privilege of standing on the roof, and now I can't wait to see the Freedom Tower completed. I love architecture and especially skyscrapers so this message board is really great. So Merry Christmas and happy holidays to everyone:)

Good for you DV77. I am following this one closely too. Happy holidays everyone.

Wow.....brand spankin new shiny glass supertall right in lower manhattan, brand new transit hub linked to fulton street all underground for blocks, brand new memorial, underground and above ground mall, two waterfalls, and lots more...... the terrorists cant beat us we just get stronger. The spire is basically going to be a middle finger pointing towards the middle east from 1776 feet in the air surround by a brand new couple blocks of class A office space. New york is amazing.

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Damn that glass looks great :cheers:

From Wednesday 12/22

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Today - Christmas Eve, December 24, 2010

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perfect, absolutely perfect....wish it looked like this from every angle :cheers:

Beautiful!

Merry Christmas to all of you, guys!! :)

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Great pics including the lunar eclipse !

Wow! Nice progres and nice pics. Especialy eclipse rulezzz!

Cladding's coming along fast!

From some angles I think the cladding looks great...other angles I think it looks cheap and poor quality...

How did this idea of cladding quality get put into people's heads? Seriously, where did the meme start?

Did a developer boast about quality and then that boast get written into an article with a bit of nationalistic pride thrown in? EDIT: this is a genuine question. I'm truly interested if this can be traced back to a particular article or press release. Did prominent British publication or tv program start this meme?

From a scientific perspective, the claims aren't based on logic or even photographic evidence. All glass panels look wavy depending on the lighting, temperature, distance, and reflected scenery. Yes, the heat of sunlight alone will make the cladding of any skyscraper look wavy. Not just look wavy, but actually be wavy. Thermal expansion is present no matter how "high quality" the glass.

How did this idea of cladding quality get put into people's heads? Seriously, where did the meme start?

Did a developer boast about quality and then that boast get written into an article with a bit of nationalistic pride thrown in? EDIT: this is a genuine question. I'm truly interested if this can be traced back to a particular article or press release. Did prominent British publication or tv program start this meme?

From a scientific perspective, the claims aren't based on logic or even photographic evidence. All glass panels look wavy depending on the lighting, temperature, distance, and reflected scenery. Yes, the heat of sunlight alone will make the cladding of any skyscraper look wavy. Not just look wavy, but actually be wavy. Thermal expansion is present no matter how "high quality" the glass.


As far as I'm aware there are no such publications...I'm basing MY OPINION on what pictures are posted here. I understand the science behind why glass is wavy (it's been explained enough times on here). From some angles I think the cladding looks superb from other I don't.

This discussions for now are irrelevant since there is no an official publication nor video explaining glass quality. Until then, you all shut up and enjoy the images. :cheers:

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This is awesome!!! I can't wait to see all of these buildings on the skyline.

MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE!

A Snowstorm is heading its way to New York City......These pictures are going to be white the next time we see them!

they are working on christmas :nuts:

wel were here in holland already have a meter of snow its crazy never had that before

my very first post here... taken today with wtc rendering superimposed to scale. merry xmas!
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That's fantastic! Great first post ;)

first post... good job!:)

nicely done mate!

wel were here in holland already have a meter of snow its crazy never had that before

Yeah right, thats why the heighest snowheight is 40cm over there..

wel were here in holland already have a meter of snow its crazy never had that before

Haha one meter :lol: I wish that was true.

Highest point right now here in Holland is around 30cm.

Great render btw. Is it really going to be that big?

that rending shows we have a long way to go.

that rending shows we have a long way to go.

I heard from NY1 that it's now at fl 52, exactly the half-way mark!

I was just told by a contractor at 5 Star Electric, who is working on 1WTC, that the whole project is not slated to be done until 2037.. Is this true?

I heard from NY1 that it's now at fl 52, exactly the half-way mark!

I know, another 700 feet or so to go

I was just told by a contractor at 5 Star Electric, who is working on 1WTC, that the whole project is not slated to be done until 2037.. Is this true?

Either you're lying or he's an idiot.

The cladding of the tower is awesome. Looks like it's top-quality to me. This is gonna deliver some quite nice shots in the near future.

wel were here in holland already have a meter of snow its crazy never had that before

You mean Holland as in the Netherlands? Than you are a bit exaggerating to say the least.

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From some angles I think the cladding looks great...other angles I think it looks cheap and poor quality...

This criticism would rather suit the Shard imo...

lol, why is the shard mentioned on every fucking page in this topic??

both glass, both great GREAT glass, but totally different towers...

Man, check out the radars. Manhattan is about to get hammered.

it's virgin tight, I wouldn't try to fuck wit it if I was you.

but well... once you're in, you'll love it

Wow, it's snowing so much in New York now. It would be nice if someone took photos of the building with snow around. :lol:

A day or two old

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New York is undergoing a major snow storm with projected downfall over 16 inches by the end of tomorrow...

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New York is undergoing a major snow storm with projected downfall over 16 inches by the end of tomorrow...

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actually the new weather reports from weather.com and weather.gov, they indicate as mush as 19 inches of snowfall will hit our area, and i only live 40 miles from the world trade center site.

so this snow storm might stop the progress of the tower 1 progress until wednesday. i will keep you all posted.

Just heard it on Ducht evening news :)

I live 25 miles west of Manhattan. Snow falling at 2 to 3 inches an hour, about 6 inches on the ground, wind gusts up to 45mph. (As of 7pm Sunday the 26th) It'll be Tuesday or Wednesday before the site returns to full productivity.

Hi all, azn_man12345 here. Ive been interested in architecture and skyscrapers for about 3 years now, and Ive been following 1WTC/Freedom Tower pretty closely throughout the years.

Ive been on SSC for about a year and a half now, but never made a profile or anything.

So I told myself once 1WTC was double the height of the tallest building in my city, Id make a profile. As of the December 14 update, 1WTC was 614 feet tall, although by now its probably higher. Since my tallest building is only 325 feet, I guess theres no better time than now.

1WTC is one of my favorite skyscrapers going up now, and Im so excited to see it done, and now, I can follow it even more closely then before.

If anyones ever looking for me, Ill probably be here, or the Shanghai Tower thread.

Thank you guys for having me and Ill try my best to be a good part of the SSC community and family :)

welcome to SSC. It snowing so hard out here and I can feel my face.

Current conditions (Central Park): Heavy Snow Freezing Fog, 22 °F (-6 °C)

Current forecast for overnight: Snow and widespread blowing snow before 5am, then areas of blowing snow and a chance of snow after 5am. The snow could be heavy at times. Some thunder is also possible. Low around 20. Wind chill values as low as -1. Very windy, with a north wind between 38 and 40 mph, with gusts as high as 55 mph. Chance of precipitation is 100%. Total nighttime snow accumulation of 12 to 18 inches possible.

And for NYC as a whole:

A BLIZZARD WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 6 PM EST MONDAY.
* HAZARDS...HEAVY SNOW AND STRONG WINDS...WITH CONSIDERABLE
BLOWING AND DRIFTING OF SNOW WITH NEAR ZERO VISIBILITY AT
TIMES.
* ACCUMULATIONS...15 TO 20 INCHES...WITH LOCALLY HIGHER AMOUNTS
UP TO 2 FEET POSSIBLE.
* WINDS....NORTH WINDS OF 25 TO 40 MPH WITH GUSTS UP TO 60 MPH ARE
EXPECTED THROUGH LATE TONIGHT.


That's nasty. I imagine such wind gusts could potentially tear apart the cocoon and cause other damage, and it'll drive snow well inside each floor. This same storm gave me about a foot of snow way down in central NC.

I thought they'd hit the 54th floor by the end of the year. Looks doubtful now.

Current conditions (Central Park): Heavy Snow Freezing Fog, 22 °F (-6 °C)

Current forecast for overnight: Snow and widespread blowing snow before 5am, then areas of blowing snow and a chance of snow after 5am. The snow could be heavy at times. Some thunder is also possible. Low around 20. Wind chill values as low as -1. Very windy, with a north wind between 38 and 40 mph, with gusts as high as 55 mph. Chance of precipitation is 100%. Total nighttime snow accumulation of 12 to 18 inches possible.

And for NYC as a whole:

A BLIZZARD WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 6 PM EST MONDAY.
* HAZARDS...HEAVY SNOW AND STRONG WINDS...WITH CONSIDERABLE
BLOWING AND DRIFTING OF SNOW WITH NEAR ZERO VISIBILITY AT
TIMES.
* ACCUMULATIONS...15 TO 20 INCHES...WITH LOCALLY HIGHER AMOUNTS
UP TO 2 FEET POSSIBLE.
* WINDS....NORTH WINDS OF 25 TO 40 MPH WITH GUSTS UP TO 60 MPH ARE
EXPECTED THROUGH LATE TONIGHT.


That's nasty. I imagine such wind gusts could potentially tear apart the cocoon and cause other damage, and it'll drive snow well inside each floor. This same storm gave me about a foot of snow way down in central NC.

Thats nothing. Downtown Boston (in particular Copley Square and State Street) are facing gusts well over 65mph. Corridors of tall buildings along with extremely close proximity to the coast can cause very very high winds in the city. Last month I was going to the Hancock tower for a meeting and almost fell over from the wind outside, and the building was swaying like crazy. I can only imagine it being worse in NY. Those estimates are far too low.

Thats nothing. Downtown Boston (in particular Copley Square and State Street) are facing gusts well over 65mph. Corridors of tall buildings along with extremely close proximity to the coast can cause very very high winds in the city. Last month I was going to the Hancock tower for a meeting and almost fell over from the wind outside, and the building was swaying like crazy. I can only imagine it being worse in NY. Those estimates are far too low.

well i live in brewster ny just 40 miles away from the tower and right now barometer machine is picking up winds up to 62 miles per hour. and i live in a house, imagine to winds ontop of a skyscraper like tower 1, especially being near the 90 degree angle of the city of new york and the ocean.

can't believe they r starting on the fifth level of glass already. seems like only yesterday the first windows were being lifted up :P

photo taken from my terrace

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^^ i hate u for ur terrace ;-) ................. jk! hehe, nah u have a very decent view man, congrats. Do you live in of of those towers at the gantry state plaza park?

^^ i hate u for ur terrace ;-) ................. jk! hehe, nah u have a very decent view man, congrats. Do you live in of of those towers at the gantry state plaza park?

Yes I do ...on the Penthouse! 300feet in the sky! :) Pretty soon WTC1 will be peeking out from those rabbit ear cranes!!!

Nice photo, but man they need to take down those ugly brown buildings in the foreground and perhaps those smaller ones next to them and replace them with modern ones.

Nice photo, but man they need to take down those ugly brown buildings in the foreground and perhaps those smaller ones next to them and replace them with modern ones.

Believe it or not the smaller ugly brown buildings are Stuyvesant Town—Peter Cooper Village a luxery private residential development built in the 1940's.

The taller ugly brown brick towers are Waterside Towers, residential and built in 1974.

^^ ^^I disagree, I love those old residentials. Btw, nice view TowersNYC!

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Blizzard at Lower Manhattan

Maaaaaan,this is some badass photo..:cheers:

EarthCam post-blizzard shot:
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EarthCam post-blizzard shot:
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what a beatiful pics, i was wonder about snow in nyc i mean this is the first snow of the season isn't, well i had to go to tha beach, here in puerto vallarta had a sunny day with 75º, anyone wanna "come" in vallarta ???

Judging from the RGZ Cam (http://www.malistebde.com/webcam/rgz_000.jpg?refresh=60&altText=Groud+Zero+Webcam+-+Rebuild+Ground+Zero+.org&camImgY=768&camImgX=960&imageurl=http://www.malistebde.com/webcam/rgz_000.jpg), it looks like the cocoon survived the blizzard:

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I love the way 1WTC is "swallowing" 7WTC, or how tower 7 appears to be the "core" of tower 1.

photo taken from my terrace

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Wow. Thats an amazig view. I wish I had your terrrace

photo taken from my terrace

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:master::master:

Yes I do ...on the Penthouse! 300feet in the sky! :) Pretty soon WTC1 will be peeking out from those rabbit ear cranes!!!

How'd you get rich enough to score that?

Wow. Thats an amazig view. I wish I had your terrrace

Yes it is, i have lived here 2 years and this view was a strong selling point! :cheers:

I can't wait until 1WTC peeks out from 7 WTC!

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That view is priceless.
Will this snow delay construction or doesn't it matter because of the holiday season? :)

That view is priceless.
Will this snow delay construction or doesn't it matter because of the holiday season? :)

I don't think it really matters....by tomorrow everything will be back to normal..I did not go to work today! I took a "snow" day! :lol:

better to take a green day LOL

I don't think that full productivity will resume until wednesday or even thursday. Theres just so much snow, and many of the roads in lower manhattan and the nyc metropolitan area as a whole are f**cked up.

NYC looks so awesome in the snow

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so lev54 = 196m?

it looks like it's only a few floors from matching the height of the WTC 7 now!

Give New York five years and it will be just insane how good the skyline will look

so lev54 = 196m?

It's still level 52.

1st Post Finally!

Hey all! I'm an avid SSC user. Love it! I am a big 9/11 buff for many reasons. I am also a die-hard New Yorker! It is not often that you can witness a National Monument erected in you lifetime and this is by fare the most important in our countries short history. Yes more important than PH!

Enough about that! Look at the snowy pics... you really get a good idea of how many trees have been planted. Awesome! Cried!

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WOW

December 26th, Dave DiCello (http://www.flickr.com/photos/evad310/)

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photo taken from my terrace

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The f**k.

If I ever come to work and live in NYC, I'll buy you out!

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i want a snow^^

Wow, some of the snow pictures look amazing, but did they damage the coccoon(sp?) thing?

I saw a few pages back but I dont recall anyone answering: why are they not cladding one of the corners of the building yet?

And also, when is the roof planned to top out? Ive heard the end of 2011, is that correct?

And also, when is the roof planned to top out? Ive heard the end of 2011, is that correct?

Yes, some optimists said end of 2011. But they also hoped for a mild winter. At the moment it doesn't look like that.

As you know they're in the 52nd floor today. That means 47 floors from here to the roof, some of them are tall mechanical floors. All this in only 54 weeks. It's possible, but there's not much wiggle room (is that the correct word? i'm not american :) ) for any kind of delays.

Oh well, december 2011, january 2012, who cares?! :)

Amazing progress since I lasted viewed!WOW!!!is all I can say.Just visited NYC on Dec 11th for the Rammstein concert.Had an unbelievable time!!I love NY baby!

Oh well, december 2011, january 2012, who cares?! :)

Apparently the Mayans.

Some of my shots from today (12/28/2010):

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This is so awesome. I cannot wait to see this thing finished

i want a snow^^

No you don't.


New York is quite a mess right now with so much snow around. Add to the mass influx of tourists for Christmas - New Years.

Just after the blizzard.

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Is that damage to the bottom west/south corner glass panel at the join to the one above it........? Probably just a refection.....I hope....

Day 3 after the blizzard and many parts of the city are STILL having problems digging out of the snow accroding to the news:ohno:

this will be the best tower in America once this one gets finished. Hope i go to NYC this summer and see it for myself.

Awesome tower, can't wait to see some more cladding :banana:

Is that damage to the bottom west/south corner glass panel at the join to the one above it........? Probably just a refection.....I hope....

I guess some reflection. The glass is fine. No damage. It's clearly visible on Athinaios 8th pic.

I'm sure this will look great when it is finished, but does anyone else think the angled section, where the corners come together and right above the podium (I guess is the proper term, IDK) should have gone all the way to the ground. Or does everyone pretty much like the way it is turning out. I'm sure we all could talk about how we wished the final design would have turned out until the cows come home, but I think it's still fun to think about. I'm just not sure I like the podium--it's kind of jarring for some reason. Again, I'm sure it will look great!!!

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Pardon my naive question, but do weather conditions such as the the snow storm of a few days ago stop or slow construction? I'm guessing skyscraper construction doesn't come to a complete halt, but are some of the workers told to stay home for a few days or until the weather improves?

Lots of workers probably weren't able to get to work yesterday and 2 days ago. I don't think it came to a complete halt, but slowed down by a lot.

This is slightly off-topic, but can someone tell me about the building under construction on the OTHER side of WTC 7 ? I was there a couple of weeks ago and was surprised to see what looked like a pretty substantial structure going up. It is on the corner of Barclay and Greenwich. Any info on how big/tall this will be?

^^ Fiterman Hall. The old building was damaged after 9/11 and they're on its way to build a brand new Fiterman Hall
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/11/Fiterman_hall_damage.jpg/414px-Fiterman_hall_damage.jpg

Off-topic on this thread, if you want more information, go here (http://www.lowermanhattan.info/construction/project_updates/fiterman_hall_39764.aspx).

Yeah - that cladding...

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It looks like just another 2 months or so before it passes 7WTC! :cucumber:

There's still a chance to to 54th floor this year..They worked up today..Cranes are ready to jump as well as the core...If they pull just one beam up on the Saturday and it's up to the 54th floor..:D

The last panorama is just amzing ! Thanks ! And its good to see FT rising up in that angle...

I don't know if this renders have been posted on this thread. Anyways, I'll post them.
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I use to live in Alaska and that wasn't a blizzard. it was a cheap ass snow storm. A blizzard is 6 feet of snow in 12 hour and whiteout for a week. No snowmobiles, no skis, no blizzard.

I figure the core would keep going at least. Good chance for it to catch up some.

Here is a video that shows how great the glass looks so far!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzFQDGyoD3c

and some pics from a guy who says he will start taking pics once a week hopefully he will get us some good shots in the future

http://blog.archpaper.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/Corner.jpg

http://blog.archpaper.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/WTC2.jpg

http://blog.archpaper.com/wordpress/archives/11442#more-11442

I use to live in Alaska and that wasn't a blizzard. it was a cheap ass snow storm. A blizzard is 6 feet of snow in 12 hour and whiteout for a week. No snowmobiles, no skis, no blizzard.

Yea but some snowdrifts in my backyard are 6 feet tall and when you get a storm like this in a metropolitan area it sure as hell seems like a lot of snow!

Scaffolding has grown up to 54th floor..

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Nice, reminds me of those old detective movies.

I use to live in Alaska and that wasn't a blizzard. it was a cheap ass snow storm. A blizzard is 6 feet of snow in 12 hour and whiteout for a week. No snowmobiles, no skis, no blizzard.Ah, but in Alaska they have room to get rid of the snow. Where do you put the snow on an island full of buildings from end to end? How do you navigate the plows around thousands of cars and millions of people? Clearing up two feet of snow in Manhattan is more difficult than clearing six feet of snow anywhere in Alaska.

Ah, but in Alaska they have room to get rid of the snow. Where do you put the snow on an island full of buildings from end to end? How do you navigate the plows around thousands of cars and millions of people? Clearing up two feet of snow in Manhattan is more difficult than clearing six feet of snow anywhere in Alaska.

A little off topic, but you should see how lovely the Great Plains states get. After it snows it isn't even nice - it's just a bunch of brown slush/ice/snow pushed off to the side of the road. And it stays there until everything melts in the spring.

I can't wait to leave for NYC. :nuts:

The PA has released the 3rd Quarter Progress Report.

http://www.panynj.gov/wtcprogress/quarterly-reports.html

^^ According to that PA's report, curtain wall will be completed up to the 32th floor and steel structure to the 60th floor during the 1st quarter of 2011. Awesome ! :cheers:

^^ According to that PA's report, curtain wall will be completed up to the 36th floor and steel structure to the 60th floor by the 1st quarter of 2011. Awesome ! :cheers:

32nd floor for the curtain wall.

Pretty soon 1WTC will rise above all others!!!!!

photo just taken from my terrace :)

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^^You have an awesome view from your Terrace:cheers:

^^ According to that PA's report, curtain wall will be completed up to the 36th floor and steel structure to the 60th floor by the 1st quarter of 2011. Awesome ! :cheers:

I take it you mean the end of the first quarter, unless they're going to work really fast tomorrow.
Looks like they're not counting on the floor a week thing. Probably some planned down time for weather that quarter.
Anybody know how far they're allowed to let the steel get ahead of the core?

Pretty soon 1WTC will rise above all others!!!!!

photo just taken from my terrace :)

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:cheers::cheers:

Let`s see that happen.

Ah, but in Alaska they have room to get rid of the snow. Where do you put the snow on an island full of buildings from end to end? How do you navigate the plows around thousands of cars and millions of people? Clearing up two feet of snow in Manhattan is more difficult than clearing six feet of snow anywhere in Alaska.

You do understand I live in NYC. And Manhattan streets are cleared, the rest of the city not so much.

Never heard of anyone going from living in Alaska to living in Brooklyn, haha.

Never heard of anyone going from living in Alaska to living in Brooklyn, haha.

My father was in the army. I was born in Brooklyn, raised in Columbus Ohio.

A some cool new renders. They must be viewed in Quicktime.

1 World Trade Center, 102nd floor. The future Skyline Restaurant.
http://www.mediafire.com/?q36l95v8bul3b8s

West and Liberty St.
http://www.mediafire.com/?8wli6i7xny1gcwr

Race to pass wtc7 would have been won by 12/30. Oh well.

Also the deconstruction of old wt5 didnt make it in time either. So sad, if its still there this 9/11.

A some cool new renders. They must be viewed in Quicktime.

1 World Trade Center, 102nd floor. The future Skyline Restaurant.
http://www.mediafire.com/?q36l95v8bul3b8s

West and Liberty St.
http://www.mediafire.com/?8wli6i7xny1gcwr

Nice work STR:D Amazing as usual

Race to pass wtc7 would have been won by 12/30. Oh well.

Also the deconstruction of old wt5 didnt make it in time either. So sad, if its still there this 9/11.

1WTC will surpass 7WTC during March, I hope so. Also, the Deconstruction of Deutsche Bank will be finishing between February and March.

Don't worry, everything is going well and on time.

World Trade Center Project Meets Construction Goals for First Time (http://www.dnainfo.com/20101230/downtown/world-trade-center-meets-construction-goals-for-first-time) dnaInfo.com

The World Trade Center site met all 13 of the goals the Port Authority set for the third quarter of 2010.


LOWER MANHATTAN — The World Trade Center site met all 13 of its construction goals for the third quarter of 2010, the Port Authority announced Thursday.
From July through September, the Port Authority started building the 9/11 memorial plaza, erected steel for the Santiago Calatrava-designed PATH station and made substantial progress on One World Trade Center, the Port said.
The report marked the first quarter that the Port Authority has met all of its milestones since executive director Chris Ward started setting specific, public goals two years ago.
"Things are moving forward in the right direction, and that’s what we want," said Catherine McVay Hughes, chairwoman of Community Board 1’s WTC Redevelopment Committee, which has closely followed the rebuilding.

But Ward also warned of some upcoming challenges in the Dec. 30 letter to Gov. David Paterson that accompanied the report.
One of the biggest setbacks to the World Trade Center project has been the years of delays at the cursed Deutsche Bank building, where two firefighters were killed in a 2007 fire.
The building is finally down to its last couple of stories, and the Lower Manhattan Development Corp., the building’s owner, is now scheduled to turn the cleared site over to the Port Authority in the first week of February.
The project lost at least two days of work because of this week’s snowstorm but would make up the time and would not miss the February deadline, an LMDC spokesman said.
The Port needs the site of the Deutsche Bank building to build a below-ground parking garage and vehicle screening center that will serve the new office towers and the memorial.
Another project that was at risk of falling behind was the winged PATH hub, because its schedule was dependent on the many companies that would fabricate the materials and build the structure, Ward said in his letter to Paterson. To further complicate matters, the station’s infrastructure overlaps with developer Larry Silverstein’s office towers.
"We will be focused closely on each of these sets of risks," Ward said in the letter.
The third-quarter report was released as the fourth quarter was drawing to a close, but the Port Authority usually waits several months to announce which milestones have been met.

A little off topic, but you should see how lovely the Great Plains states get. After it snows it isn't even nice - it's just a bunch of brown slush/ice/snow pushed off to the side of the road. And it stays there until everything melts in the spring.

I can't wait to leave for NYC. :nuts:

The snow is just like everything else there: dull and boring.

The snow is just like everything else there: dull and boring.

i guess u haven't seen nyc otherwise u wouldn't say this - if nyc is boring which city is not???? please say me. maybe i can understand u ! ;)

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So close, so close now to 7WTC :applause:

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The snow is just like everything else there: dull and boring.

i guess u haven't seen nyc otherwise u wouldn't say this - if nyc is boring which city is not???? please say me. maybe i can understand u ! ;)

He might be talking about the great plains. But he wouldn't be out of line calling NYC boring. It can be boring here like anywhere else.

I think this building will look really cool when the aerial shots are shown after it's finished. I prefer the new 2WTC but this building should be pretty incredible as well.

They should put some steel up already! if you look at the camera there isn't any snow up there :bleep:

They should put some steel up already! if you look at the camera there isn't any snow up there :bleep:

Let them take their off time..They deserved it..

As we can see in the pictures of the city skyline, something great is growing up in the NY skyline, because WTC current height makes it visible almost from each point of the city, and it's still growing. Thks to all for update pictures!

My best wishes to this baby, 2011 will be an excellent year, I'm pretty sure that during this year alot of progress will be made. I remember when they said on the news on December 19, 2006 that the first steel beam of the FT was being installed. And now, 1474 days after, it has already reached the 52th floor.
My best wishes to all of you guys, HAPPY 2011!!
:cheers:

Taken at new year's night. Both north and south cores have been pumped up since Thursday. Our workers here are wasting no time!

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^^ Cool shot. Seems like ages since we've had a height increase on this one.

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A reminder of what WTC1 looked like ~1 year ago.

Is 2011 the year when WTC1 is expected to be topped out ?

About 55 floors to go.. so its hard to say... they have to built more than one floor per week.

If they continue building at the same pace, I think it can be topped out at the end of this year.

Keeping in mind the floors are getting smaller as they get higher, I think they will make the end of the year as well.

isn't it supposed to open in 2013. So i do not think the shedule for it is to top out this year already

The building is now at 613', with 755' to go. 755' is the equivalent of 57 floors. So if they go at a rate of a floor a week, and keeping in mind that there's 52 weeks in 2011, then it'll still be around the first week of february 2012 before they finish. BUT... that's only if they go at a floor a week. Their pace may quicken.

The building is now at 613', with 755' to go. 755' is the equivalent of 57 floors. So if they go at a rate of a floor a week, and keeping in mind that there's 52 weeks in 2011, then it'll still be around the first week of february 2012 before they finish. BUT... that's only if they go at a floor a week. Their pace may quicken.

don't forget that after completing all floors there is still the massive spire that needs to be done

And what about vacation schedules? In some countries the construction sector stops for a few weeks altogether. What's that like in the US?

^^ They won't shut down the site for vacations.


By my calculations they have 42 floors to build in 50 weeks (The goal is to top out on or near the 41st anniversary of the topping out of the original North Tower, December 21st 2011). The 105th floor is the roof and there are no floors 94 thru 99. Most of the floors above the 88th are double hight, like the mechanical floors in the base.

PS: The spire doesn't count in the official topping out.

Originally Posted by Zensteeldude
* 1-6 – tower base (including 60ft tall lobby and 5 mechanical floors)
* 20-63 – offices
* 64 – sky lobby and office floor.
* 65-88 – offices
* 89-90 - Broadcast
* 91-93 - mechanical
* 100-101 – Restaurant
* 102 Observation Deck
* 103-104 – mechanical floors
* 105 - Roof
* 106 - Cooling tower catwalks
* 107-109 Communications Rings

Note: there are no floors 7-19 or 94-99.

The top platform of the communications ring is going to be 1,401' 5" above the lobby floor.

Random, but any idea how tall it's going to be around the end of February? I'm taking a weekend in NYC and wanted to know what to expect! Probably at or above 7WTC?

Random, but any idea how tall it's going to be around the end of February? I'm taking a weekend in NYC and wanted to know what to expect! Probably at or above 7WTC?

Just a bit above 7WTC I would say..

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OMG, this looks fabulous, I really like the cladding.

Nice closeups of the corner pieces. The stainless steel gives the cladding that little extra "pop".

And what about vacation schedules? In some countries the construction sector stops for a few weeks altogether. What's that like in the US?

...the US takes less vacation than any country in the industrialized world...not like those slackers in Europe! Only thing that will slow it down is weather.

...the US takes less vacation than any country in the industrialized world...not like those slackers in Europe! Only thing that will slow it down is weather.

I agree. Christmas period coincides with Summer in Australia so we usually take annual leave(2-3 weeks annual leave) to coincide with any Chrissy shut-down of work places, leading to the 'standard' 4 wks Summer break Down Under. It also helps in that if we want to travel anywhere outside of Australia(as is popular - we are a nation of born explorers!) we need the extra time just to get where we are heading thanks to the tyranny of distance. I was very shocked with my last gf(an lovely Okie) that she only got 2 weeks(Annual leave) over the year. what a jip:( Still while our economy is going gangbusters, unlike Europe, we can afford our little luxuries - like 4wks off a year! ;)

Just a bit above 7WTC I would say..

Thanks a lot! I'll be sure to grab some pics from ESB when I'm there! :)

1WTC is probably still not visible above 7WTC from the ESB.

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1WTC is probably still not visible from the ESB.

It is now and it will be more and more with time...:)

Sorry! I looked again and changed my post.

GreenwichBoy, WiredNY:

http://wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=11844&d=1294064090

It is now and it will be more and more with time...:)

Correct! Also quite visible from Top of the Rock too. I've already been up that observation deck however, so it's ESB for me this time! I noticed there's not a lot of pics from there, so I'll be sure to take many many!

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This pic shows that 1 WTC has at least 6 or 7 floors to go before it surpasses 7 WTC. :)

the cladding is disappointing so far :ohno:

the cladding is disappointing so far :ohno:

In what way? It's nearly identical to that of the renderings. It only looks a little darker right now because its been pretty cloudy all winter.

The cladding looks best at dawn and dusk

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^^ They won't shut down the site for vacations.


By my calculations they have 42 floors to build in 50 weeks (The goal is to top out on or near the 41st anniversary of the topping out of the original North Tower, December 21st 2011). The 105th floor is the roof and there are no floors 94 thru 99. Most of the floors above the 88th are double hight, like the mechanical floors in the base.

PS: The spire doesn't count in the official topping out.

Originally Posted by Zensteeldude
* 1-6 – tower base (including 60ft tall lobby and 5 mechanical floors)
* 20-63 – offices
* 64 – sky lobby and office floor.
* 65-88 – offices
* 89-90 - Broadcast
* 91-93 - mechanical
* 100-101 – Restaurant
* 102 Observation Deck
* 103-104 – mechanical floors
* 105 - Roof
* 106 - Cooling tower catwalks
* 107-109 Communications Rings

Note: there are no floors 7-19 or 94-99.

The top platform of the communications ring is going to be 1,401' 5" above the lobby floor.
Thanks for the info.

It reminded me of a facet of this tower which I had forgotten. That is, how this tower will effect communication networks. Just like one of the original twins, nearly everything in lower manhattan with an antenna, will be talking to this tower.

This will have an impact on everyday life for millions of people. For example, mobile phone coverage got set back with the destruction of the original WTC. And even 9 years later, coverage remains poor. Replacing the communications hub of a megalopolis isn't exactly easy, especially when it is already experiencing rapid growth. When the new facilities are finished, all the communications companies are ready to put up some serious longterm infrastructure investment.

It will be fun to read about all the gear that eventually gets installed!

This pic shows that 1 WTC has at least 6 or 7 floors to go before it surpasses 7 WTC. :)

10 floors to be exact. The next two should begin tomorrow.

The 62nd floor is the magic number to pass 7WTC.

66th and it will pass Woolworth.

72nd passes Beekman.

76th passes 40 Wall.

78th passes American International Building (tallest in Lower Manhattan).

101st passes ESB (tallest in NYC).

10 floors to be exact. The next two should begin tomorrow.

The 62nd floor is the magic number to pass 7WTC.

Out of curiosity, what about the World Financial towers? I know the 3rd shortest one is already smaller that 1WTC, but I don't think it's past the other two yet. correct?

In what way? It's nearly identical to that of the renderings. It only looks a little darker right now because its been pretty cloudy all winter.

it`s not as shiny as I wish it would be :ohno:

Out of curiosity, what about the World Financial towers? I know the 3rd shortest one is already smaller that 1WTC, but I don't think it's past the other two yet. correct?

Yup, it passed 1 and 4WFC.

55th floor passes 2WFC (645 ft).

62nd floor passes 3WFC (739 ft).

it`s not as shiny as I wish it would be :ohno:

Just remember that this tower uses ultra-clear glass, not reflective nor tinted, so the sunlight can iluminate perfectly the office floors. By using this type of glass, the energy costs are reduced in a huge percent.
1WTC is on its way to get a GOLD LEED Certification, and that's better than just having "shinny glass". ;)

Taken almost a week ago, but better post it.

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B & W photography is, and remains, cool for certain things. Very nice!

looks like they began to construct the emergency stairway in the southeast?

Finally new vertical steel around the core this morning. That takes them to the 54th floor, now 640 feet high.

I think the cranes jumped as well.

lol, why is the shard mentioned on every fucking page in this topic??

Because it's the only way some cowards who can't get over themselves can launch ad hominen attacks by proxy without being penalised for it.

I was wondering since tower 1 is at the 54 th floor and about 640 feet, can some one show the diagram or a picture of a finished tower 1 and compare it to what it is now at its current height. Thank You.

I was wondering since tower 1 is at the 54 th floor and about 640 feet, can some one show the diagram or a picture of a finished tower 1 and compare it to what it is now at its current height. Thank You.

Here is one that was posted a few pages back.
my very first post here... taken today with wtc rendering superimposed to scale. merry xmas!
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Parts where vertical beams are connected are up..

I hope 1WTC get's taller than 3 WFC soon. It will be visible from jersey then lol

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New York Post
January 4, 2011

If state bails, 1 WTC scores

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All indications are that the marketing team for 1 World Trade Center will have nearly 600,000 square feet more to offer prospective tenants -- a rare instance of what's usually bad news for a landlord being good news.

Sources familiar with the Port Authority's fast-rising tower said the likelihood of the state Offices of General Services going through with a long-discussed lease there are increasingly remote.

Insiders cited an "expectation" it won't happen. We'll go farther out on a limb and say it's as dead as the Giants' playoff hopes, which just fell to mathematically zero.

The OGS "lease" was announced three years ago, along with a slightly larger one for the federal General Services Administration. Neither deal has been completed, however.

Now, Condé Nast has a letter of intent for 1 million square feet in the 2.6 million square-foot tower -- which just passed the halfway point and makes an arresting sight, especially to anyone walking west on Fulton Street. Several financial tenants are also kicking the tires.

Too much space leased to government offices automatically cheapens a commercial building's image. The last thing "iconic" 1 WTC needs are government workers hogging more than one-third of its floors at subsidized rents higher than public entities should be paying, but still far below market.

The PA, its partner Douglas Durst, and the leasing agent, Cushman & Wakefield's Tara Stacom, all declined to comment. An e-mail to Gov. Andrew Cuomo's spokesman, Josh Vlasto, was not returned.

The federal lease is still on the table, sources said. And the OGS lease is not formally dead. But a new governor committed to saving the state from fiscal collapse is not likely to look kindly on expensively relocating an agency whose tasks include providing state employees with parking spaces.

The Condé Nast talks have changed the dynamics of leasing at 1 WTC. The OGS would have moved into floors at the bottom of the tower. But Condé now wants the floors -- meaning the bureaucrats would have to go higher, where the rent would be higher too.

Copyright 2010 NYP Holdings, Inc.

10 floors to be exact. The next two should begin tomorrow.

The 62nd floor is the magic number to pass 7WTC.

66th and it will pass Woolworth.

72nd passes Beekman.

76th passes 40 Wall.

78th passes American International Building (tallest in Lower Manhattan).

101st passes ESB (tallest in NYC).

Wouldn't it still be slightly shorter than the ESB even when it's topped out (pre-spire)? Isn't the ESB is nearly 1,500 feet tall?

Wouldn't it still be slightly shorter than the ESB even when it's topped out (pre-spire)? Isn't the ESB is nearly 1,500 feet tall?


to the top of the antenna yea but that doesn't count in official height, it's roof is 1250 feet. the 101st floor of 1WTC is like 1254 feet or something, the 102nd being 1266 (or 1271 over the lower entrance of vessey street)

1WTC will also pass 4WTC by floor 79, Carnegie 57 by floor 81-82, plus the top of BOA spire by about floor 92

to the top of the antenna yea but that doesn't count in official height, it's roof is 1250 feet. the 101st floor of 1WTC is like 1254 feet or something, the 102nd being 1266 (or 1271 over the lower entrance of vessey street)

1WTC will also pass 4WTC by floor 79, Carnegie 57 by floor 81-82, plus the top of BOA spire by about floor 921 wtc roof is 1,373 ft

1 wtc roof is 1,373 ft

If I remember Zen's blueprints and comments, I believe the roof is the 105th floor at 1,334 ft 8 inches high. The top of the parapet is 1,368 ft. But that could be a different height (1,373) depending on where you measure from, N or S side.

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If I remember Zen's blueprints and comments, I believe the roof is the 105th floor at 1,334 ft 8 inches high. The top of the parapet is 1,368 ft. But that could be a different height (1,373) depending on where you measure from, N or S side.

You are correct in quoting me and the official hight from any side of the tower is 1,368 feet to the top of the parapet and 1,776 feet to the top of the spire.

Regardless of the officialdom and what ever criteria they come up with Tower One is to be 1,776 feet high and the top of the parapet is to be 1,368 feet high to memorialize the original North Tower.

The roof of Tower One is about 30 feet below the top of the parapet, in order to hide all the cooling towers and whatnot.

Please forgive my ignorance, but what exactly is this parapet?
Are there still floors and cladding on the parapet?

If I remember Zen's blueprints and comments, I believe the roof is the 105th floor at 1,334 ft 8 inches high. The top of the parapet is 1,368 ft. But that could be a different height (1,373) depending on where you measure from, N or S side.Oh, i didn't know i just got it from the SSP forum title :hammer:

Please forgive my ignorance, but what exactly is this parapet?
Are there still floors and cladding on the parapet?

A parapet is a wall-like barrier at the edge of a roof, terrace, balcony or other structure. Where extending above a roof, it may simply be the portion of an exterior wall that continues above the line of the roof surface, or may be a continuation of a vertical feature beneath the roof such as a fire wall or party wall - From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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l love the freedom tower

I can tell just from these pics as the tower rises....it's going to be ultra-fabulous. This is going to be an incredibly amazing tower.

1 wtc roof is 1,373 ft

huh? what does that have anything to do with my post? :)

PS the cladding looks freaking sexy in the second to last picture

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that photo is one of the best i have seen of the cladding. it really makes the cladding look good. the tower looks awesome in this pic

Half way to the top!!! it's getting tawlahh :)

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That Cladding looks fabulous :applause:

...cladding might catch up to the finished fireproofing, at this rate!

...cladding might catch up to the finished fireproofing, at this rate!

unfortunately yeah, that's probably true. its going to affect the speed of the cladding.

the clading is fantastic!! :drool:

It will look great but eveybody is overexited about the cladding i think. The patern is quite cool (with the pointy sides getting wider while going up) but the glass itselfs is nothing really special. Look at this picture for example and compare it with the building behind it, same old song i think. Its 'just another glass building'. Or is there something mysteriously unique i did not know about?

http://i997.photobucket.com/albums/af100/DKNY620/DSCN0435.jpg

That cladding is absolutely gorgeous. :drool:

Gorgeous? Amazing? Isn't it just another glass cladding? (not that I'm against it, but it surely isn't anything special)

Gorgeous? Amazing? Isn't it just another glass cladding? (not that I'm against it, but it surely isn't anything special)

Ditto. Too much foam going on here if you ask me :nuts:

It will look great but eveybody is overexited about the cladding i think. The patern is quite cool (with the pointy sides getting wider while going up) but the glass itselfs is nothing really special. Look at this picture for example and compare it with the building behind it, same old song i think. Its 'just another glass building'. Or is there something mysteriously unique i did not know about?

Yes there is. The former buildings here were destroyed in the biggest terrorist plot ever which, as you probably know, changed the whole world in many ways since then. The whole site is more than just 4 glass buildings going up. For many people this is more than a building, it's a symbol. And besided that, the whole complex has great attention to details which are, architecturally, very interesting.

You know you could expect an answer like this right ? ;)

Even if it was just another glass building, it would be a very BIG one. The biggest one in America even. It's changing the skyline of New York.

So, there are many reasons why this is more than 'just another glass building.'

^^
You know i was just talking about the glass itself, wich is, nothing special :)

What about window shades? Anyone know if they are part of the window frame, or something added later?

It will look great but eveybody is overexited about the cladding i think. The patern is quite cool (with the pointy sides getting wider while going up) but the glass itselfs is nothing really special. Look at this picture for example and compare it with the building behind it, same old song i think. Its 'just another glass building'. Or is there something mysteriously unique i did not know about?

Exactly. It's exactly why the cladding is amazing. 1WTC & 7WTC don't look like twins but sisters at least!
Like it.

The cladding also includes that wonderful stainless steel edge! When complete, it will be very different from the surrounding structures.

I would like to shove my foot up find so so's butt!

What about window shades? Anyone know if they are part of the window frame, or something added later?

I was wondering about that. If the glass is all that clear, with no tinting or reflecting layer, it would be unlivable in there when the summer sun hits.
But, shades would make the building look horrible.

Yes there is. The former buildings here were destroyed in the biggest terrorist plot ever which, as you probably know, changed the whole world in many ways since then. The whole site is more than just 4 glass buildings going up. For many people this is more than a building, it's a symbol. And besided that, the whole complex has great attention to details which are, architecturally, very interesting.

You know you could expect an answer like this right ? ;)

Even if it was just another glass building, it would be a very BIG one. The biggest one in America even. It's changing the skyline of New York.

So, there are many reasons why this is more than 'just another glass building.'

which is exactly why the site deserved better architecture--"symbolic" as you put it. instead we're getting two "glass" towers and two "stumps" for a decade (that is if we're lucky and it actually gets built)

Great pictures of what will be a really great building on the New York skyline. :)

Question, what exactly is the purpose of the crane that appears to be attached to vertical tracks on the NW corner of the building? (An answer more elaborate than 'to lift things' would be great). :lol:

^^ That crane is meant to lift construction materials to the lower floors so the two cranes above can concentrate on erecting the steel frame.

I was wondering about that. If the glass is all that clear, with no tinting or reflecting layer, it would be unlivable in there when the summer sun hits.
But, shades would make the building look horrible.

I agree, pull shades would look bad on it since it is all glass, but since they are going for Gold LEED certification it'll probably be some kind of automated shutter system for the entire building.

The one official render we have of the interior of a regular office floor of 1 WTC does appear to show some kind of indent on the ceiling for shutters/blinds/what have you.

But we all know who can answer this for certain... *fires up Zen signal*

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v423/meh_cd/wtc/NEW%20wtc/FTRelatedImages_07.jpg

I wonder if the wall was designed that way because glass all the way to the floor would be a little unnerving for some. Or, just to give you a place to put your foot while you're staring out the window with a cup of coffee when you're suppose to be working.

I wonder if the wall was designed that way because glass all the way to the floor would be a little unnerving for some. Or, just to give you a place to put your foot while you're staring out the window with a cup of coffee when you're suppose to be working.

Good question. I know in the originals they had a similar ledge there with vents for the air conditioning or heating.

I'll go with the coffee hypothesis, though. ;)

Again, QuickTime required.

http://www.mediafire.com/?dcrx8mi533tlm9o

This baby is beginning to look really, really good. :cheers:

Hello there, just found this group and thought you might like some of my photos. I've got a pretty good view of 1WTC from my balcony in Jersey City.

http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/653/mg5993.jpg

This one was taken yesterday. More to come. Maybe some video if I can capture something happening.

that last pic ,the building looks alot like one canada square aka canary wharf in london.

that last pic ,the building looks alot like one canada square aka canary wharf in london.

same architech.....Latin American Argentian born Cesar Pelli :)

PANYNJ

http://oxblue.com/archive/487d07189e5fd2b7edce94fc0bcf4b68/800x600.jpg

that last pic ,the building looks alot like one canada square aka canary wharf in london.

Yea they have the same architect, so not that strange.

same architech.....Latin American Argentian born Cesar Pelli :)

Both were built by the same developer also, Olympia and York (The Reichmann family) from Toronto.

HA HA so much for originality...same architech, .Latin American Argentian born Cesar Pelli :)

http://www.corbisimages.com/images/67/E4A7582E-31FD-4929-85DA-0859C2F73A74/AAMK001290.jpg

PANYNJ
http://oxblue.com/archive/487d07189e5fd2b7edce94fc0bcf4b68/800x600.jpg

Well, all I know is that pretty soon, I'll have an unobstructed view of the construction, then the topping out, and then the grand opening. :)

I agree that 7WFC is a nice building, but right now, it's in the way. ;)

Well, all I know is that pretty soon, I'll have an unobstructed view of the construction, then the topping out, and then the grand opening. :)

I agree that 7WFC is a nice building, but right now, it's in the way. ;)

^ Best seat in the house...you have to have a "topping out" party!!! :banana:

Well, all I know is that pretty soon, I'll have an unobstructed view of the construction, then the topping out, and then the grand opening. :)

I agree that 7WFC is a nice building, but right now, it's in the way. ;)

lol i hate u............................jk! :-)

Here's one from today taken through my spotting scope.

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/442/mg6001s.jpg

fabulous !

nice glass..

I agree, pull shades would look bad on it since it is all glass, but since they are going for Gold LEED certification it'll probably be some kind of automated shutter system for the entire building.

The one official render we have of the interior of a regular office floor of 1 WTC does appear to show some kind of indent on the ceiling for shutters/blinds/what have you.

But we all know who can answer this for certain... *fires up Zen signal*

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v423/meh_cd/wtc/NEW%20wtc/FTRelatedImages_07.jpg
No exterior pillars in that render? Is that accurate? Perhaps the observation deck levels are different than the rest of the floors?

If not, then we probably shouldn't draw window shade conclusions either.