View Full Version : NEW YORK | One World Trade Center (1WTC) | 541m | 1776ft | 104 fl | T/O
DinoVabec March 14th, 2011, 01:50 PM March 13th, SkyscrapersOfNewYork, Skyscrapercity..
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dutchsnookerfan March 14th, 2011, 07:42 PM Aw already that tall
Otie March 14th, 2011, 09:19 PM swtcurran (http://www.flickr.com/photos/swtcurran/) (Marc 5th, 2011)
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charles54 March 14th, 2011, 09:33 PM how many floors is the tower now?
azn_man12345 March 14th, 2011, 10:42 PM Dude... This thing at night will be one hell of a sight...
And 721 ft... How tall is 7WTC?
FCU March 14th, 2011, 11:04 PM Dude... This thing at night will be one hell of a sight...
And 721 ft... How tall is 7WTC?
7 WTC is 750 feet (228,6 meters), so it's getting real close! :banana:
Dominance March 15th, 2011, 12:22 AM Does anybody have a photo shot on top of tower 1 on the 58th floor looking up at Tower 7 , Cause I remember like 2 months ago there was a picture like that posted here and I was wondering if there is a update to that view except this time being on the 58th floor. Thank You
leoracademico March 15th, 2011, 02:13 AM Time-lapse from last xmas till March 13th.
These white-outs frames, as you can tell, indicate either snow storms or heavy rains...
beautiful work joe!..thanks for share it!
Otie March 15th, 2011, 02:56 AM J Blough (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jblough/) (March 12, 2011)
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Finally a spanish photographer on Flickr!
Pablo Contreras (http://www.flickr.com/photos/pablocontrerasq/) (March 13, 2011)
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Personally, I loved the angle of the photo, it clearly shows the blue sky being reflected in the smooooth glass.
Otie March 15th, 2011, 03:26 AM Photo of the day
Erik Endress - Fl(eye) On The Wall Photography (http://www.flickr.com/photos/erikendress/) (March 13th, 2011)
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hellrazor650 March 15th, 2011, 04:07 AM I accept!
Rise To The Top March 15th, 2011, 04:27 AM March 14th by my lovely roommate who is in NYC for the next few days...
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kingsc March 15th, 2011, 05:33 AM From 3/14/11 All picture taking by me. You can thank me later.
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DinoVabec March 15th, 2011, 03:25 PM March 14th, Patapsco, Skyscraperpage..
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DinoVabec March 15th, 2011, 03:29 PM February 9th, Tony Shi. (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyshi/)
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Scrapernab2 March 15th, 2011, 04:20 PM That reminds me. When is the BEEKMAN construction elevator coming down!?
That is a wonderful picture. So many lights on, especially Goldman-Sachs...
mindgoessnap March 15th, 2011, 05:55 PM Is the earthcam webcam no longer in high definition? I liked the huge pictures it used to display, but it seems they've resized it.
Scrapernab2 March 15th, 2011, 06:14 PM My HD earthcam isn't working. It shows night.
dutchsnookerfan March 15th, 2011, 07:49 PM ^^the name earthcam did already say enouf to me:lol::)
Draegen March 15th, 2011, 07:58 PM Why did it take them a week to put of those corner pieces?
Rise To The Top March 15th, 2011, 08:21 PM Two more from yesterday, will have more tomorrow night when the roommate gets back
3/14, from my roommate.
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Does anyone know what that is on the truck in the picture above? Apparently they were moving tons of them into the site.
Dominance March 15th, 2011, 11:25 PM To me that large thing that on the freight truck looks like Pex Tubing, I could be wrong but that how it looks like to me.
Zensteeldude March 15th, 2011, 11:38 PM I have never come across anything like that on the prints, though I did not spend much time on the MEP drawings.
MEP=Mechanical, Electrical, Plumbing.
DinoVabec March 15th, 2011, 11:46 PM 4th Q Report for 2010.
http://www.panynj.gov/wtcprogress/pdf/4Q2010_Report.pdf
NYCD March 16th, 2011, 12:04 AM March 15th, 2011
(BTW, My foot has healed yay! :cheers: )
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DinoVabec March 16th, 2011, 12:06 AM March 15th, 2011
(BTW, My foot has healed yay! :cheers: )
This is what I've been waitin' for..Pics from the city..Thanks man...Glad to hear your foot is ok..:cheers:
Slovenia for WTC March 16th, 2011, 12:33 AM In this link is a something for someone who misses world trade center in different occasions
(it's a paper model)
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1106833&page=52
Slovenia for WTC March 16th, 2011, 12:42 AM One question boys. What is the situation with the spire and the interior of lobby? Maybe is a some picture? It's the spire in construction or what?
Thanks
GOD BLESS AMERICA
Otie March 16th, 2011, 01:30 AM CRE8IVEDESTRUCTION (http://www.flickr.com/photos/cre8ivedestruction/) (March 14th, 2011)
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Erik Endress - Fl(eye) On The Wall Photography (http://www.flickr.com/photos/erikendress/) (March 13th, 2011)
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edit: Julie Dandolos-C (http://www.flickr.com/photos/julie_saw_it/) :nuts:
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stynxno (http://www.flickr.com/photos/stynxno/) (March 13th, 2011)
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kingsc March 16th, 2011, 01:31 AM This building isn't ready for the spire. More pics coming soon
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Here's some picture I took today
Otie March 16th, 2011, 01:48 AM aechempati (http://www.flickr.com/photos/aechempati/) (March 12th, 2011) Taken from the ESB.
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aweinrich (http://www.flickr.com/photos/41465461@N06/) (March 12, 2011)
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Pascal Vossen (http://www.flickr.com/photos/fox_lightroom/) (March 9th, 2011)
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Jerome Paz (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jeromepaz/) (March 13th, 2011)
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spectre000 March 16th, 2011, 02:51 AM From the PA 4th Quarter Progress Report.
http://www.panynj.gov/wtcprogress/pdf/4Q2010_Report.pdf
Targets for 2nd Quarter of 2011.
One World Trade Center
Complete Installation of Podium Glass
The podium of One World Trade Center is located between street level and the 20th floor of the building. In this area, there is prismatic glass that forms the curtain wall, a different type of glass than the one currently being installed from the 20th floor and up. Completion of this work in the 2nd Quarter of 2011 has been resequenced to start installation in the 1st Quarter of 2012 in order to improve logistics for other trades operating in the building and to avoid any damage to the glass once it has been installed. Installation of the curtain wall above the 20th floor will continue and is currently rising at a floor per week. This re-sequencing should not impact the overall completion of the building’s core and shell by the end of 2013.
Steel Erection to the 75th Floor
This represents the structural steel framing which makes up the building's "Skeleton." The 75th floor rises approximately 920’ above street level.
Concrete Core to the 65th Floor
This represents the interior concrete core which is critical to the structural stability of the building.
Concrete Floor Slab to the 70th Floor
This represents the placement of the concrete slab on the 70th floor that is approximately 850’ feet above street level. After the placement of the concrete, other critical trades like spray fireproofing and curtain wall can begin.
Curtain Wall to the 42nd Floor
This represents the glass curtain wall installation from the 20th floor to the 42nd floor level. The curtain wall will provide weather tight protection to allow interior finish work to begin on the typical office floors.
Msradell March 16th, 2011, 03:33 AM Two more from yesterday, will have more tomorrow night when the roommate gets back
3/14, from my roommate.
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Does anyone know what that is on the truck in the picture above? Apparently they were moving tons of them into the site.
That is a plate and frame heat exchanger. The red rods are threaded rods that are used to tighten the frame (blue) onto the plates (silver). The end that you cannot see has two inlet and two outlet ports. These will probably be used as part of the HVAC systems.
Dominance March 16th, 2011, 03:37 AM That is a plate and frame heat exchanger. The red rods are threaded rods that are used to tighten the frame (blue) onto the plates (silver). The end that you cannot see has two inlet and two outlet ports. These will probably be used as part of the HVAC systems.
Yes i knew it. Cause i noticed the Heating Pex tubing on that freight truck.:banana:
azn_man12345 March 16th, 2011, 04:10 AM On the topic of the spire, does anyone know if it will be constructed somewhere else and brought to/helicoptered to the building, or will it be that when this building tops out, theyll start construction on the spire?
Dominance March 16th, 2011, 04:15 AM On the topic of the spire, does anyone know if it will be constructed somewhere else and brought to/helicoptered to the building, or will it be that when this building tops out, theyll start construction on the spire?
The pieces of the sprie will be made in a factory like place but then the pieces will be brought to Tower 1 and will be assembled there.:) The whole spire would be to heavy to hoist with a helicopter, even the Military copters would not be strong enough the hoist the 400 plus foot long or heigh spire. :lol:
Zensteeldude March 16th, 2011, 05:31 AM The spire will be hoisted and placed in 20 foot high, 20 ton sections. Easy enough for one tower crane to handle.
charles54 March 16th, 2011, 09:18 AM the tower can now be clearly visible on the skyline!
DinoVabec March 16th, 2011, 12:29 PM March 13th..
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March 12th..
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DinoVabec March 16th, 2011, 12:33 PM March 15th, rbenko, WNY..Watch it full size..
http://wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=12509&d=1300243636
Full size (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/16831274/2011-03-15_WTC_NYC.jpg)
DinoVabec March 16th, 2011, 12:47 PM March 15th, lofter1, WNY..
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Otie March 16th, 2011, 02:22 PM :applause: Dino
unlinked March 16th, 2011, 04:40 PM While under construction, this building is becoming one of the most photographed in history. Who is willing to create a public archive that may be displayed within the building itself?
Dominance March 16th, 2011, 05:29 PM Pardon my ignorance on the subject of the glass being installed on Tower 1 WTC but, How are they installing the glass to the steel? Like are they bolting, or soldering it? Or are they using super glue and glue the windows to the steel ? Thank you.
Rise To The Top March 16th, 2011, 06:26 PM Pardon my ignorance on the subject of the glass being installed on Tower 1 WTC but, How are they installing the glass to the steel? Like are they bolting, or soldering it? Or are they using super glue and glue the windows to the steel ? Thank you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2y2x_2OaNrI
Chadoh25 March 16th, 2011, 07:28 PM WOW! Great pictures!
metsfan March 16th, 2011, 09:59 PM Last week due to dangerously high winds the cranes were hooked to the topmost structural steel. Usually they put the steel weights on.
- A
DinoVabec March 17th, 2011, 12:00 AM March 13th..
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Lower Manhattan From the Manhattan Bridge (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ryanbudhu/) by newhannibal112 (http://www.flickr.com/people/ryanbudhu/), on Flickr
Zensteeldude March 17th, 2011, 02:37 AM Pardon my ignorance on the subject of the glass being installed on Tower 1 WTC but, How are they installing the glass to the steel? Like are they bolting, or soldering it? Or are they using super glue and glue the windows to the steel ? Thank you.
The panels are bolted to anchor points embeded in the edge of the floor slabs. (I think you mean welded, not soldered:))
nasa35 March 17th, 2011, 03:08 AM Spires are stupid. The true height should only be roof height. New York, for instance, has many buildings at about 800 feet but because of the spire fraud they're over 1,000 feet.
nasa35 March 17th, 2011, 03:09 AM I do love the cladding though.
Uaarkson March 17th, 2011, 04:01 AM Spires are stupid. The true height should only be roof height. New York, for instance, has many buildings at about 800 feet but because of the spire fraud they're over 1,000 feet.
If you actually care about that, start seeing a therapist.
Dominance March 17th, 2011, 04:04 AM :lol::lol::lol:If you actually care about that, start seeing a therapist.
Bricken Ridge March 17th, 2011, 08:33 AM Spires are stupid. The true height should only be roof height. New York, for instance, has many buildings at about 800 feet but because of the spire fraud they're over 1,000 feet.
Lots of threads about this in the archives. Skyscraperpage.com has an active thread discussing this issue at http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=174028
charles54 March 17th, 2011, 11:52 AM March 15th, rbenko, WNY..Watch it full size..
http://wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=12509&d=1300243636
Full size (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/16831274/2011-03-15_WTC_NYC.jpg)
whats the building to the left of the pic?
Henk March 17th, 2011, 11:56 AM whats the building to the left of the pic?
4WTC (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=746080)
charles54 March 17th, 2011, 12:17 PM thanks henk so 2,3 and 4 will be in that line
christos-greece March 17th, 2011, 01:13 PM In the low floors of 1WTC that grey stuff is preparation for the cladding? And first of all what's that stuff (the purpose for that)?
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HK999 March 17th, 2011, 01:41 PM Spires are stupid. The true height should only be roof height. New York, for instance, has many buildings at about 800 feet but because of the spire fraud they're over 1,000 feet.
good for you, now take a look at other cities- what a suprise, everyone cheats. :|
DinoVabec March 17th, 2011, 02:40 PM thanks henk so 2,3 and 4 will be in that line
Exactly..
In the low floors of 1WTC that grey stuff is preparation for the cladding? And first of all what's that stuff (the purpose for that)?
This is where they brush fireproofing layer down from the steel...They will bolt hangers for the cladding on in..They can't bolt it on the layer, that's why they have to brush it down first..
X Bomby March 17th, 2011, 02:46 PM Stunning pics! I can't wait to see it finished.
northdiesel March 17th, 2011, 04:43 PM Amazing building. Great to see the progress!
FCU March 17th, 2011, 06:52 PM I always love to see the curtain wall progress :)! It's already on the 29th floor now (tenth row)!
And great updates as always, thanks very much!
FCU March 17th, 2011, 06:53 PM http://i55.tinypic.com/347e6pi.png
metsfan March 17th, 2011, 10:16 PM Spire is part of the building.
- A
oilmanjr March 17th, 2011, 10:42 PM thanks henk so 2,3 and 4 will be in that line
Not really. Tower 2 is being constructed where the tower cranes have begun work beneath ground level, which is beside Tower 1. Tower 3 will be directly to the right of Tower 4 in that pic, so they don't necessarily make a line, but a 'V'.
DinoVabec March 17th, 2011, 11:47 PM Not really. Tower 2 is being constructed where the tower cranes have begun work beneath ground level, which is beside Tower 1. Tower 3 will be directly to the right of Tower 4 in that pic, so they don't necessarily make a line, but a 'V'.
Towers 2, 3 and 4 make a line..North to south..East part of the site..;)
kinggober March 18th, 2011, 12:11 AM From the discovery blog.
http://blogs.discovery.com/.a/6a00d8341bf67c53ef0147e3497dd0970b-800wi
NYCD March 18th, 2011, 02:26 AM March 17th, 2011
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leoracademico March 18th, 2011, 02:55 AM at the moment is much taller than world financial center tallest building, right?
NYCD March 18th, 2011, 02:59 AM at the moment is much taller than world financial center tallest building, right?
No haha, its almost about the same height as the tallest World Financial Center tower. :) Should be taller than it soon.
Otie March 18th, 2011, 03:10 AM The next vertical steel beams will surpass 7 World Trade Center, 3 WFC and almost 200 West Street (Goldman Sachs Tower)
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rencharles March 18th, 2011, 03:10 AM From the discovery blog.
http://blogs.discovery.com/.a/6a00d8341bf67c53ef0147e3497dd0970b-800wi
Really amazing this picture. Here we can see how tall this building is.
oilmanjr March 18th, 2011, 03:19 AM Towers 2, 3 and 4 make a line..North to south..East part of the site..;)
Sorry, you are right. I misread his question as the entire set of 4 towers making a line.
KenfromJersey March 18th, 2011, 04:29 AM http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/9567/mg6167.jpg (http://img402.imageshack.us/i/mg6167.jpg/)
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I went into the city today with my camera. So I got to take some shots from another perspective.
Eins4 March 18th, 2011, 04:55 AM nice...
Otie March 18th, 2011, 04:56 AM Nice photo, it clearly shows how DIRTY the glass is.
spectre000 March 18th, 2011, 06:59 AM I hope they get moving on the steel soon. The last couple weeks have been pretty mediocre.
oilmanjr March 18th, 2011, 07:33 AM I noticed that they constructed the entire core of the Shard before the other beams and the frame was assembled. Is there an advantage to doing it this way? Why isn't One World Trade Center being built this way?
Miami High Rise March 18th, 2011, 08:40 AM Nice photo, it clearly shows how DIRTY the glass is.
Always like that right after a place is built. A lot of it is just dirt dust from construction.
charles54 March 18th, 2011, 11:14 AM so the core of the one world trade center is concrete?
kingsc March 18th, 2011, 12:46 PM I noticed that they constructed the entire core of the Shard before the other beams and the frame was assembled. Is there an advantage to doing it this way? Why isn't One World Trade Center being built this way?
Zen where are you, this guys got question I can't answer.
Here's a question isn't there another building, beside the shard you dude can compare this to.
Nomadd22 March 18th, 2011, 01:29 PM The core wouldn't be that strong as far as side loading went by itself. If you had a windstorm or eathquake without the curtain wall to support it you might have a problem.
jayhawker March 18th, 2011, 01:47 PM I noticed that they constructed the entire core of the Shard before the other beams and the frame was assembled. Is there an advantage to doing it this way? Why isn't One World Trade Center being built this way?
Zen has answered this question before. If I remember correctly, the Shard's method of constructing the core first and bolting the steel to it, is a more traditional method of skyscraper building. Quick and easy. With 1wtc, the core goes up aftewards and encases the steel, making the overall integrity of the tower much much stronger. In other words, it might be a little more difficult and a little more expensive, but it's a lot better.
DinoVabec March 18th, 2011, 01:51 PM I noticed that they constructed the entire core of the Shard before the other beams and the frame was assembled. Is there an advantage to doing it this way? Why isn't One World Trade Center being built this way?
It's because 1WTC has steel beams in the core..They have to build steel construction first, connect floor beams to them and then they wrap core steel into concrete..It's called reinforced concrete..It's strong as hell..
Scrapernab2 March 18th, 2011, 01:54 PM AND with the added statement that the Shard is plently strong. 1WTC is obviously designed to be overdone due to the locations history.
DinoVabec March 18th, 2011, 01:59 PM so the core of the one world trade center is concrete?
Yes..Reinforced concrete..Steel beams are in the concrete because it's way stronger than concrete itself..The best way to explain it is when you look at the pressure..If you put huge pressure on the concrete itself, it will break..But steel in that situation has ability of bending and it absorb the pressure way better..When you put steel into concrete you give this ability to the concrete..Steel makes it way stronger and absorb pressure way better..
Nomadd22 March 18th, 2011, 03:25 PM Not so much pressure as tension. The concrete is the strength pressure wise and the steel is the strength tension wise. So if you tried to bend the core with a hurricane or airplane, the concrete would be the strength of the opposite side of the bending force and the steel the stregth on the side that was getting pushed. Same with the tower swaying in a quake sort of, except the buildings own inertia is the load.
I'm just guessing, but I think that bolting the floors to the steel frame in the core is a lot stronger than just bolting them to concrete.
mindgoessnap March 18th, 2011, 04:14 PM Dunno if this has been posted or not, but the rebuildgroundzero.com website seems to have been hacked by somebody. The webcam is not available as of this writing.
DinoVabec March 18th, 2011, 05:42 PM Not so much pressure as tension. The concrete is the strength pressure wise and the steel is the strength tension wise. So if you tried to bend the core with a hurricane or airplane, the concrete would be the strength of the opposite side of the bending force and the steel the stregth on the side that was getting pushed. Same with the tower swaying in a quake sort of, except the buildings own inertia is the load.
I'm just guessing, but I think that bolting the floors to the steel frame in the core is a lot stronger than just bolting them to concrete too.
Yes, that too..I don't have experience with professional english words as you guys, but I know what you mean and I tried to explain..I could talk about that way better in my language..:D
Thanks for the completion..
:cheers:
FCU March 18th, 2011, 05:56 PM Dunno if this has been posted or not, but the rebuildgroundzero.com website seems to have been hacked by somebody. The webcam is not available as of this writing.
The link to the webcam itself is here (http://www.malistebde.com/groundzero2011/rgz_000.jpg?refresh=60&altText=Groud+Zero+Webcam+-+Rebuild+Ground+Zero+.org&camImgY=768&camImgX=960&imageurl=http://www.malistebde.com/groundzero2011/rgz_000.jpg).
oilmanjr March 18th, 2011, 07:15 PM Here's a question isn't there another building, beside the shard you dude can compare this to.
It's not like I brought up the Shard to talk about the Shard. I was asking why 1WTC was being built a certain way. If you don't want to read my question, don't come on the forum.
Nomadd22 March 18th, 2011, 07:51 PM Yes, that too..I don't have experience with professional english words as you guys, but I know what you mean and I tried to explain..I could talk about that way better in my language..:D
Thanks for the completion..
:cheers:
I'm pretty clumsy myself. Zen is the one who actually knows how to put it.
Draegen March 18th, 2011, 08:01 PM Dunno if this has been posted or not, but the rebuildgroundzero.com website seems to have been hacked by somebody. The webcam is not available as of this writing.That happens every once in a while i doubt anyone would hack it
rda March 18th, 2011, 08:06 PM It's because 1WTC has steel beams in the core..They have to build steel construction first, connect floor beams to them and then they wrap core steel into concrete..It's called reinforced concrete..It's strong as hell..
Most structural concrete is reinforced, more often with rebar than with huge beams, but it's still reinforced concrete.
In any case, that can't be the (only) reason - look at Shanghai Tower. It is going up core-first despite having large amounts of metal (looked to be more than 1WTC) cast inside the concrete core. Looks like they are simply going to connect to the perimeter steel later.
I recall reading a long time ago that in the US (or maybe NY in particular) there is an aversion to slip/jump form on some safety grounds - particularly for working under them. I guess that would pretty much rule out core-first skyscraper construction. I'm not sure if I am remembering that right though, and forum search seems to be broken so can't easily check.
DinoVabec March 18th, 2011, 08:39 PM Most structural concrete is reinforced, more often with rebar than with huge beams, but it's still reinforced concrete.
In any case, that can't be the (only) reason - look at Shanghai Tower. It is going up core-first despite having large amounts of metal (looked to be more than 1WTC) cast inside the concrete core. Looks like they are simply going to connect to the perimeter steel later.
I recall reading a long time ago that in the US (or maybe NY in particular) there is an aversion to slip/jump form on some safety grounds - particularly for working under them. I guess that would pretty much rule out core-first skyscraper construction. I'm not sure if I am remembering that right though, and forum search seems to be broken so can't easily check.
You could be right...Now when I think of other buildings being built in the New York right now, non of them has core build ahead of floors..Carnegie 57, 1WTC, 4WTC...I don't remember seeing the core of Beekman either..There's Devon Headquarters tower in Oklahoma City, no core up there either..
kingsc March 18th, 2011, 10:39 PM It's not like I brought up the Shard to talk about the Shard. I was asking why 1WTC was being built a certain way. If you don't want to read my question, don't come on the forum.
I've been coming to SSC, long before you know what it was. So I'll go where I want when I want.
Zensteeldude March 18th, 2011, 10:51 PM Here is a little sketch I made awhile back showing the construction of Tower One and the "erecting steel"
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3376/3256947180_937b482ae6.jpg
The main difference between core first and steel first construction is in the connection of the floor beams to the core. In core first (usually slip form) construction there are pockets cast into the core walls where the floor beams are set. They are anchored to a bearing plate that was cast into the wall and is held firmly in place with shear studs or rebar welded to the plate. The beams are then either bolted or welded to the bearing plate. Later, after the beams are in place the pocket is filled with concrete. There is absolutely nothing wrong with this method, it is widely used throughout the world, it is cost effective and is usually more than enough. (and it is the method I used when building my house, I didn't want any columns in the way of my model railroad so I used steel beams to support the first floor.)
But we are talking about Tower One here. The exception.
There are three reasons why the core concrete is cast after the steel is erected.
First, bolting the floor beams to the erecting steel that will later be encased in concrete makes a much stronger connection.
Article from Curbed awhile back that shows the core concrete completely encasing those important floor beam to erection steel connections.
http://ny.curbed.com/archives/2010/10/11/1_world_trade_center_hardhat_tour_concrete_steel_and_views.php#world-trade-center-open-house-new-york-11
Second, by doing it this way the floor beams can be connected with both a shear (gravity load) connection and a moment (Bending load, wind, earthquake) connection.
The third reason is a bit more subtle. At every floor there is a full length dovetail pocket cast into the core wall. This pocket is for the floor slab itself. Rebar extends from the core into the floor slab making the joint even stronger.
The erection steel does reinforce the core concrete but so does the crap load of #11 rebar embedded in it. (#11 is 1 3/8th diameter.)
mindgoessnap March 18th, 2011, 11:21 PM That happens every once in a while i doubt anyone would hack itI meant to say rebuildgroundzero.org . And yes, as of this writing, if you go to that page it is still down due to a hack. A previous poster put up a direct link to the webcam which is apparently still active.
Athinaios March 19th, 2011, 02:01 AM Some pics from yesterday and today (3/17/11 & 3/18/11) by me:
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Supertall Robbo March 19th, 2011, 02:11 AM Makes me want to go back.. New york is wonderful
redbaron_012 March 19th, 2011, 02:22 AM I know the glazing is not complete but see the sills of the first office floors alternate yet it ends up odd at each end with a double bay ? Just wondering...probably been answered before but although I keep an almost daily look at this thread I haven't heard a comment about it.
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DinoVabec March 19th, 2011, 03:07 AM March 16th, TwinTowersForever, Skyscraperpage..
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Zensteeldude March 19th, 2011, 04:55 AM I know the glazing is not complete but see the sills of the first office floors alternate yet it ends up odd at each end with a double bay ? Just wondering...probably been answered before but although I keep an almost daily look at this thread I haven't heard a comment about it.
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I am sure this has been answered before but. Every other panel has been left out of the "20th" floor for hanging scaffold for work on the base glass brackets.
Uaarkson March 19th, 2011, 05:03 AM Whatever the cladding lacks in reflective quality it more than makes up for in color clarity and brilliance. Superb.
Otie March 19th, 2011, 06:25 AM The glass panels are ultra-clear ones, not reflective.
Michael Morrongiello (http://www.flickr.com/photos/morrongiello/) (March 17, 2011)
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garaventa-nyc (http://www.flickr.com/photos/garaventa-nyc/) (March 17, 2011)
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Otie March 19th, 2011, 06:40 AM Madeline68 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/23956233@N04/)
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Starship Catvern (http://www.flickr.com/photos/48523101@N06/)
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MARSFACZ March 19th, 2011, 06:45 AM Amazing pictures. I wonder the final design is from Libeskind Studio?
Otie March 19th, 2011, 06:51 AM ^^ No. Liberskind colaborated with David Childs to do a final project; but once it was done, the New York City Police Department raissed a report wanting a redesign of the entire building. The final design was made by David Childs, from Skidmore, Owings & Merril. :okay:
beanhead4529 March 19th, 2011, 07:22 AM I swung by the site today with this gorgeous weather we had and took these:
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5095/5538644045_1efa1b9766_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/8379824@N07/5538644045/)
beanhead4529 (http://www.flickr.com/people/8379824@N07/), on Flickr
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beanhead4529 (http://www.flickr.com/people/8379824@N07/), on Flickr
kekkoz March 19th, 2011, 07:54 AM Height?
kingsc March 19th, 2011, 08:17 AM ^^^ Tall
Jim856796 March 19th, 2011, 12:48 PM I am sure this has been answered before but. Every other panel has been left out of the "20th" floor for hanging scaffold for work on the base glass brackets.
"20th" floor? Look more like a 10th floor than a 20t due to the look of the structural frame of the tower's podium.
Beber March 19th, 2011, 01:43 PM From beanhead4529 pic.
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Why those two beams at the extremities of the octagon aren't the same? I think it's because it's "not a perfect octagon", but does anyone have more information on that, for example "why" and "how"? The reason behind it, and how it's implemented in the tower (size difference with a "perfect" octagon, etc.). Thanks.
charles54 March 19th, 2011, 02:56 PM the tower is slowly creeping up on 7wtc
burnside March 19th, 2011, 04:10 PM They are the same. You're viewing the one on the left in profile.
baji75 March 19th, 2011, 04:15 PM Great info and great thread
Traynor March 19th, 2011, 09:32 PM From beanhead4529 pic.
http://uppix.net/c/0/1/82c596cc6e72e4bfdd563e8cecdce.png (http://uppix.net/c/0/1/82c596cc6e72e4bfdd563e8cecdce.html)
Why those two beams at the extremities of the octagon aren't the same? I think it's because it's "not a perfect octagon", but does anyone have more information on that, for example "why" and "how"? The reason behind it, and how it's implemented in the tower (size difference with a "perfect" octagon, etc.). Thanks.
The perfect octagon floor is 72, about 12 more floors above this.
The corner nodes at 60th are wider because this is the floor where the outermost vertical column on the flat side transitions to the sloped side. In other words: The sloped corner sides get an extra set of vertical columns starting from here on up. These wider nodes are like the base of a tree branch where two columns will branch off.
:)
econ_tim March 19th, 2011, 10:36 PM Earlier today:
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QuarterMileSidewalk March 19th, 2011, 10:47 PM ^That's a cool shot.
Zensteeldude March 19th, 2011, 11:01 PM "20th" floor? Look more like a 10th floor than a 20t due to the look of the structural frame of the tower's podium.
It's called the 20th floor, but it's actually the 7th floor.
Zensteeldude March 19th, 2011, 11:05 PM The perfect octagon floor is 72, about 12 more floors above this.
The corner nodes at 60th are wider because this is the floor where the outermost vertical column on the flat side transitions to the sloped side. In other words: The sloped corner sides get an extra set of vertical columns starting from here on up. These wider nodes are like the base of a tree branch where two columns will branch off.
:)
Couldn't have said it better myself.
One note: the corner nodes circled in the pic are not the same, one is what's called opposite hand. One is a 3D mirror image of the other. Of the 8 nodes, 4 are left hand and 4 are right hand.
spectre000 March 20th, 2011, 12:15 AM Love the shot with the reflection of the Woolworth Building. Awesome!
Otie March 20th, 2011, 12:41 AM A bad quality and guessed lines showing the ramification of the corner nodes.
http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/6361/cornernodes.jpg
Original photo taken by beanhead4529.
Zensteeldude March 20th, 2011, 12:55 AM ^^ A bit rough, but accurate .
We get to do this all over again at the 82nd floor.
aquaticko March 20th, 2011, 01:13 AM This tower still seems quite generic in a postmodernist way, and it's kind of silly how much the spire contributes to the total height. I know that New York has enough older skyscrapers to argue that radical building designs are out of place, but it's nonetheless frustrating how little the final design innovates or adds interest to the skyline.
That aside, I'm glad it's finally progressing.
MissyC March 20th, 2011, 01:18 AM I had not checked on this thread for a long long time, but now I did, I am amazed by how quickly they 've built it so far!
Looks amazingly lovely ... I like it though.
Harryx5 March 20th, 2011, 01:57 AM One World Trade Center will be my favorite skyscraper.
Otie March 20th, 2011, 03:31 AM Juan C. Hernandez (http://www.flickr.com/photos/juanhernandezphotography/)
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kl 2020 ideas March 20th, 2011, 06:06 AM It's called the 20th floor, but it's actually the 7th floor.
Weirdly, still I want to know why are the floors skipped.
adam-albany March 20th, 2011, 08:31 AM Weirdly, still I want to know why are the floors skipped.Because the lobby and mechanical floors are much taller than a standard office floor. If the lobby and mechanical floors were standard height, it would take 19 of them to fill the space under the 20th floor.
oli83 March 20th, 2011, 12:15 PM GreenwichBoy, WiredNewYork..
http://wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=12574&d=1300596624
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Beber March 20th, 2011, 01:00 PM The corner nodes at 60th are wider because this is the floor where the outermost vertical column on the flat side transitions to the sloped side
Thanks, but my problem was that I thought that the corner nodes I circled were different (one from antoher), but's it's just an odd angle that tricked me (the others pics showed me that)
OldWorldResident March 20th, 2011, 01:12 PM Weirdly, still I want to know why are the floors skipped.
Because the lobby and mechanical floors are much taller than a standard office floor. If the lobby and mechanical floors were standard height, it would take 19 of them to fill the space under the 20th floor.
No, thatīs wrong. Just because some floors are taller you don't count them twice or triple. The reason why they left out some floors (8-19 and 94-99) is because the hole building including its design and yes, even its floor numbers, is a homage to the twin towers.
DinoVabec March 20th, 2011, 01:19 PM No, thatīs wrong. Just because some floors are taller you don't count them twice or triple. The reason why they left out some floors (8-19 and 94-99) is because the hole building including its design and yes, even its floor numbers, is a homage to the twin towers.
Not really..Adam is right..The base is tall as standard 20 story building..That's why it starts with 20th floor above the base..I think even Zen confirmed that..
FCU March 20th, 2011, 01:37 PM This question has probably been answered before, but do the workers work on Sunday? And during the night?
charles54 March 20th, 2011, 01:38 PM the glass panels looks cool. are they covering the entire podium with concrete isn't it supposed to be with glass?
TowersNYC March 20th, 2011, 01:45 PM photo Aziz Rahamn
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photo PANYNJ
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DinoVabec March 20th, 2011, 01:54 PM This question has probably been answered before, but do the workers work on Sunday? And during the night?
Depends on the weather..If there was bad weather lately and they couldn't work, then they will probably have workin' Sunday..But usually Sundays are work free..
I'm not sure about the night work, but they usually start very early in the morning, around 4 or 5 am, and work till the late night..
DinoVabec March 20th, 2011, 01:57 PM the glass panels looks cool. are they covering the entire podium with concrete isn't it supposed to be with glass?
No..Only walls of the base will be concrete..It's very thick concrete wall, called "blast wall"..Glass panels will be attached to the concrete walls..
DinoVabec March 20th, 2011, 02:04 PM March 17th, eMKay, Skyscraperpage..
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DinoVabec March 20th, 2011, 02:13 PM March 19th, Greenwichboy, WNY..
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DinoVabec March 20th, 2011, 02:16 PM March 19th, Sherpa, WNY..
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Otie March 20th, 2011, 03:26 PM jglsongs (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jglsongs/) (March 18, 2011)
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Woman Inthemirror (http://www.flickr.com/photos/42710580@N07/) (Yesterday at sunset from the ESB)
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rda March 20th, 2011, 04:19 PM Because the lobby and mechanical floors are much taller than a standard office floor. If the lobby and mechanical floors were standard height, it would take 19 of them to fill the space under the 20th floor.
AFAIK Floor 20 is at about 200ft and the standard height office floors are about 13ft floor-to-floor.
I hope that anyone who thinks that 13 * 20 is anywhere close to 200ft is not working on the plans, because stuff isn't going to fit... [like, say, this: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cambridgeshire-12759800, 2ft out in 10, nice going guys]
To fit 20 floors in, you'd have to be at 10ft per floor which is very tight (probably below some US minumus ?) for residential highrise, and I would say impossible for office space where you need more services in ceiling space.
MissyC March 20th, 2011, 05:17 PM I love these new buildings, but I have to admit that I personally would have loved to see the old WTC still standing tall. It always makes me sad to see the old pictures.
Magnog March 20th, 2011, 06:34 PM lol at this concrete jungle!
Towards The Sun March 20th, 2011, 07:02 PM I know the glazing is not complete but see the sills of the first office floors alternate yet it ends up odd at each end with a double bay ? Just wondering...probably been answered before but although I keep an almost daily look at this thread I haven't heard a comment about it.
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Been wondering the same thing myself.
pnapp1 March 20th, 2011, 09:08 PM Been wondering the same thing myself.
They are temporary so they can hang scaffolding out of them to work on the exterior of the podium below. If you look closely at some of the pics you can see this.
As you can see here:
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EricIsHim March 21st, 2011, 03:12 AM March 19, 2011
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Draegen March 21st, 2011, 03:59 AM The slowness of these two floors is painful :gaah:
Otie March 21st, 2011, 03:59 AM From Yahoo! News
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spectre000 March 21st, 2011, 04:40 AM The slowness of these two floors is painful :gaah:
Agreed. I think 4WTC has risen four floors since they started floors 59 and 60. At least the glass installation has kept up.
charles54 March 21st, 2011, 11:41 AM No..Only walls of the base will be concrete..It's very thick concrete wall, called "blast wall"..Glass panels will be attached to the concrete walls..
okay thanks, is it load baring?
Otie March 21st, 2011, 02:51 PM Mr. Ben. (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bjames/) (March 19th, 2011)
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Traynor March 21st, 2011, 08:34 PM Originally Posted by redbaron_012
I know the glazing is not complete but see the sills of the first office floors alternate yet it ends up odd at each end with a double bay ? Just wondering...probably been answered before but although I keep an almost daily look at this thread I haven't heard a comment about it.
My theory on why each side of the 20th floor has an extra window missing on each end:
The gaps on the rest of the floor are for hoists to stick out, which will be used to clad the base with the glass panels starting in 2012...
However, the extra space near the corner is to accommodate an extra hoist needed to clad the corners. The reverse slant of the corner does not allow a hoist directly above and as you near the ground the corner widens and recedes inward from the hoists above... Physics dictates that in order to pull a scaffold closer to the building you need to pull from a different leverage point.
Just my theory.
:)
Nomadd22 March 21st, 2011, 08:47 PM Or, they just need glass at the corners for some reason, and that's just how the spaces come out.
Spartan_X March 21st, 2011, 11:17 PM I'm guessing that whenever floor adding slows down, the workers are more focused on interior work ...
Hanyuu222 March 22nd, 2011, 12:00 AM Good news for 2wtc/3wtc, that 80 story hotel near the WTC, and other proposals all over nyc.
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leoracademico March 22nd, 2011, 02:15 AM March 19th, Sherpa, WNY..
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which part of the building is that?
Hanyuu222 March 22nd, 2011, 02:28 AM It's the part that was designed to be a jungle gym for construction workers.
skyperu34 March 22nd, 2011, 03:56 AM Very good updates ! it must be at mid height aprox. Looks giant!
nurdeen March 22nd, 2011, 04:03 AM http://upic.me/i/e9/thai01.jpg
nurdeen March 22nd, 2011, 04:04 AM ราชอาณาจักรไทย
kingdom of thailand
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hellrazor650 March 22nd, 2011, 04:26 AM can someone delete those ^^and my post?
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STR March 22nd, 2011, 07:32 AM okay thanks, is it load baring?
The perimeter base walls are not load bearing. They'll essentially be held in place by the beams on either side of the panels and rest their weight on the floorplate underneath. The purpose of the perimeter concrete is protect the lobby from a car bomb.
IngMarco March 22nd, 2011, 08:20 AM which part of the building is that?
Elevator tunnel?
STR March 22nd, 2011, 09:02 AM which part of the building is that?
It's one of the 4 escape stairways. On the 3rd floor they move from the core of the building out to the corners. All of the WTC buildings will have stairs like this, so that people can exit directly out into the street. The stairwells are encased in concrete to prevent damage (several blocked stairways prevented evacuation of the upper floors of the Twin Towers leading to ~1,500 deaths). They also help shield the lobby from street level explosions, like the rest of the podium concrete panels.
In the twin towers, two of the three emergency stairs exited on to the plaza level, which was 1 floor above the street, so they have to go back around to the lobby escalators and then out through the lobby doors, adding extra time that surely cost people their lives.
charles54 March 22nd, 2011, 12:09 PM The perimeter base walls are not load bearing. They'll essentially be held in place by the beams on either side of the panels and rest their weight on the floorplate underneath. The purpose of the perimeter concrete is protect the lobby from a car bomb.
:)those are some safety measures!
Otie March 22nd, 2011, 07:44 PM which part of the building is that?
A really bad edited image that shows the area of escape stairways, NE corner.
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Otie March 22nd, 2011, 11:36 PM Phillip Kalantzis Cope (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kalantziscope/) (March 21st, 2011)
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NYCD March 22nd, 2011, 11:50 PM March 22nd, 2010
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metsfan March 23rd, 2011, 02:45 AM Nice photo update. I see they are raising the cladding bit by bit. This thing is really coming along FINALLY.
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leoracademico March 23rd, 2011, 03:05 AM thanks so much STR & Otie, i appreciate that! :)
Dominance March 23rd, 2011, 03:34 AM On the subject of Tower 1 WTC, how about when its completed all of us here on Skyscrapercity forums join together in person and celebrate its completion in a resturant near by. Just a friendly thought.
Hanyuu222 March 23rd, 2011, 03:37 AM Orgy?
Dominance March 23rd, 2011, 03:39 AM Orgy?
No like as in a meal and a drink together.:lol::):cheers:
TowersNYC March 23rd, 2011, 03:55 AM :hug:I like the orgy better!!!
spiller9 March 23rd, 2011, 05:39 AM i'm imagining all of the features this is going to get in films that are shot in NYC once it's complete. ESB will once again have a rival in that regard.
DShoost88 March 23rd, 2011, 07:57 AM :hug:I like the orgy better!!!
:lol:
STR March 23rd, 2011, 08:11 AM :hug:I like the orgy better!!!
Given that this forum is ~99% male, you're welcome to the orgy. I'll stick with a beer myself.
DinoVabec March 23rd, 2011, 10:43 AM Given that this forum is ~99% male, you're welcome to the orgy. I'll stick with a beer myself.
:lol: I was about to say the same..:cheers:
kingsc March 23rd, 2011, 11:06 AM It's snow for my birthday lol
charles54 March 23rd, 2011, 11:13 AM March 22nd, 2010
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pics are a little old eh?
DinoVabec March 23rd, 2011, 01:32 PM pics are a little old eh?
Pics from yesterday are old?
DocShergar March 23rd, 2011, 03:00 PM Having been to London yesterday a taken some photos of The Shard i can see now that the photos didn't do it justice and it seemed so much bigger in the flesh.
Being that 1WTC is much bigger than The Shard it must seem huge up close. Hopefully i'll get to NYC one day to see for myself .
1WTC looks amazing with the cladding going on!! :)
DinoVabec March 23rd, 2011, 03:34 PM I don't get it what's the deal with comparing 1WTC with Shard..Why not any other building in the world? Why Shard?
keithw083 March 23rd, 2011, 04:04 PM The top of the building almost looks like the old twin towers did at night. Would feel good to have that back.
FCU March 23rd, 2011, 04:52 PM Wow great updates Otie, NYCD and DinoVabec!
Hopefully when 1WTC surpasses 7WTC, the WFC and its other surroundings, more people will become excited about this project! Then the tower will maybe become even more of an icon.
hellrazor650 March 23rd, 2011, 05:13 PM I dont think many people realize how clean this is going to look, they are doing such a good job. were extremely lucky that they are building 4 beastly buildings and the 1 WTC is going to be an icon. it will be in tv shows and movies dont worry
unlinked March 23rd, 2011, 05:45 PM No like as in a meal and a drink together.:lol::):cheers:
OR-GY
–noun, plural -gies.
1. wild, drunken or licentious festivity or revelry.
2. any actions or proceedings marked by unbridled indulgence of passions: an orgy of killing.
3. orgies, (in ancient Greece) esoteric religious rituals, especially in the (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/the) worship of Demeter or Dionysus, characterized in later times by wild dancing, singing, and drinking.
4. Informal . a boisterous, rowdy party.
I guess some of us are a little meek and mild
droneriot March 23rd, 2011, 05:52 PM On the subject of Tower 1 WTC, how about when its completed all of us here on Skyscrapercity forums join together in person and celebrate its completion in a resturant near by. Just a friendly thought.
Sure, if you pay for flights. :lol:
Gendo March 23rd, 2011, 05:57 PM On the subject of Tower 1 WTC, how about when its completed all of us here on Skyscrapercity forums join together in person and celebrate its completion in a resturant near by. Just a friendly thought.
A good excuse to return to NYC anyways. If you guys and gals get serious about such a plan, let me know.
:cheers:
Dominance March 23rd, 2011, 06:15 PM A good excuse to return to NYC anyways. If you guys and gals get serious about such a plan, let me know.
:cheers:
Well I am serious as a heart attack. We should really do this , it will be the ultimate tribute to the Former Twin Towers and the ultimate rebirth and completion to The New Tower 1 World Trade Center. I think we we should all get serious about this cause, it would be awsome for all of us to finally meet in person and enjoy in my opinion the best looking rebirth the world had ever seen since the renasaunce.:banana: :cheers: :banana:
mcdonnell77 March 24th, 2011, 03:00 AM This and the shard are dominating this forum. Its looking awesome now and i love the shiny cladding. I can imagine these pictures dont do it much justice and im sure it looks massive in the flesh. Going to NYC on 27th April so will get to find out and will post lots of pictures on here :)
Otie March 24th, 2011, 03:30 AM A 11th row of glass was being partially installed yesterday and today.
Sepia Prince (http://www.flickr.com/photos/sepiaprince/) (Yesterday)
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3WFC.. :rant:
Jonipoon March 24th, 2011, 04:38 AM Nice photos, Otie! It's really exciting to see it rising in NYC...
kingsc March 24th, 2011, 05:52 AM On the subject of Tower 1 WTC, how about when its completed all of us here on Skyscrapercity forums join together in person and celebrate its completion in a resturant near by. Just a friendly thought.
Ok let's go to the Burger King next to Tower4.
oilmanjr March 24th, 2011, 06:14 AM Ok let's go to the Burger King next to Tower4.
^^:lol:
kingsc March 24th, 2011, 09:59 AM ^^^ nothing in manhattan is cheap not even BK.
HK999 March 24th, 2011, 12:43 PM last time i visited NY, i went to that particular burger king, got a cheese burger for $0,99 (without taxes)! :D
hellrazor650 March 24th, 2011, 05:16 PM last time i visited NY, i went to that particular burger king, got a cheese burger for $0,99 (without taxes)! :D
ayyy what a country huh?
dutchsnookerfan March 24th, 2011, 05:58 PM Great progress nice pictures!
batman March 24th, 2011, 07:16 PM I'm still amazed its design, and suprised that how such a simple but kick ass design of structure have never been used for any highrise before?
Scrapernab2 March 24th, 2011, 07:26 PM There are a couple that are close to this design, but not exactly the same.
kingsc March 24th, 2011, 07:28 PM last time i visited NY, i went to that particular burger king, got a cheese burger for $0,99 (without taxes)! :D
Whooper Jr cost me 1.35, anywhere else would have been 99 cents
batman March 24th, 2011, 07:37 PM There are a couple that are close to this design, but not exactly the same.
Shanghai World Financial Center building - probably the most similar to FT, at least the idea of structure.
azn_man12345 March 24th, 2011, 09:48 PM ^How does the SWFC look anything similar to 1WTC? o.O
FCU March 24th, 2011, 10:18 PM ^How does the SWFC look anything similar to 1WTC? o.O
Well, two sides of the building taper when it gets higher, just like 1WTC. And the glass of both towers don't differ that much from each other...
romanamerican March 24th, 2011, 10:33 PM Well, two sides of the building taper when it gets higher, just like 1WTC. And the glass of both towers don't differ that much from each other...
Glass looks pretty different for me, and for 1wtc, 2 sides of the building don't "taper", rather all four corners "taper" (it is actually a specific geometric form, I don't remember the name). And 1wtc does not end with 2 sides coinciding into a "blade", but ends flat into another square, just like it started at the base, only with a smaller area.
DinoVabec March 25th, 2011, 12:12 AM March 14th, newhannibal, WNY..
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LoKeY March 25th, 2011, 12:49 AM Whooper Jr cost me 1.35, anywhere else would have been 99 cents
I wouldn't complain too much - it costs 2 here :ohno:
so to stay at least somewhat to topic - wtc going great =)
MonsterPug March 25th, 2011, 02:04 AM Beautiful night shot.
Draegen March 25th, 2011, 02:16 AM They're taking so long doing this floor that they've actually hooked up electricity to the blue netting floors that's the first time they've done that =\
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friendsofthecity March 25th, 2011, 02:21 AM ^^It's needed for a perfect job. They have all the time in the whole wide world hun!
Otie March 25th, 2011, 03:52 AM Hassan & Mariko (http://www.flickr.com/photos/habdelra/)
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azn_man12345 March 25th, 2011, 05:59 AM Its like they dont want to pass 7WTC DX
spectre000 March 25th, 2011, 06:05 AM Its like they dont want to pass 7WTC DX
No kidding. Welcome back to 2007. :wallbash:
Rapter March 25th, 2011, 12:00 PM Its like they dont want to pass 7WTC DX
Didn't it surpass 7WTC in height already?
HK999 March 25th, 2011, 12:53 PM ^^ no, not yet.
March 14th, newhannibal, WNY..
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fantastic shot, very detailed. :cheers2:
Scrapernab2 March 25th, 2011, 02:09 PM They almost look like twins in that shot
dutchsnookerfan March 25th, 2011, 02:27 PM I think its only 10m now next week?>
Lawrence7 March 25th, 2011, 02:51 PM Judging from this shot they have really picked up with the speed on the cladding.
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econ_tim March 25th, 2011, 03:36 PM lol nice photoshop
oilmanjr March 25th, 2011, 03:57 PM There are 10 rows of legit cladding in your pic. The rest are obviously photoshopped.
Lawrence7 March 25th, 2011, 05:28 PM When I get some free time in the next week I will be photoshopping some images of 1WTC accurately, so that we all have a better idea of what the finished product will look like, in comparison to renders.
kooljoe March 25th, 2011, 07:02 PM Some fresh views taken from Greenwich village this morning, also notice that wtc 4 has started to take presence at the skyline! :banana::banana::banana:
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http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5306/5559047944_eb2d0f9a68_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/xurijoe/5559047944/)
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5261/5559047940_dc5243ff34_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/xurijoe/5559047940/)
oilmanjr March 25th, 2011, 07:22 PM When I get some free time in the next week I will be photoshopping some images of 1WTC accurately, so that we all have a better idea of what the finished product will look like, in comparison to renders.
Please do. However, don't bring your photoshopped pictures onto the forum and say that your photo shows the current progress of the building. :bash:
FCU March 25th, 2011, 11:45 PM I checked the WTC in Google Earth, and saw that it was updated. It's very strange that it looks like 1WTC has surpassed 7WTC....
http://i54.tinypic.com/34rwzk1.png
DinoVabec March 26th, 2011, 01:00 AM :lol: at Google Earth..:D
Otie March 26th, 2011, 01:32 AM They are not accurate. Besides, on Google Earth there's a problem with the ground of the WTC...
Dominance March 26th, 2011, 03:18 AM I checked the WTC in Google Earth, and saw that it was updated. It's very strange that it looks like 1WTC has surpassed 7WTC....
http://i54.tinypic.com/34rwzk1.png
Tower 1 WTC will look like that in 2 more floors. If the picture is autentic from goole earth, there are off by 2 floors.
Otie March 26th, 2011, 04:04 AM nydlux (http://www.flickr.com/photos/45484837@N00/)
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5263/5559244675_54715a5f45_z.jpg
Ivan Vuković (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ivanvukovic/)
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5175/5559345591_cbab9a2b88_z.jpg
alargent (http://www.flickr.com/photos/largent/) (Yesterday)
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5026/5557869072_3fd47d7f87_z.jpg
newdasilva@flickr.com (http://www.flickr.com/photos/silvaflickcom/)
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5254/5559793328_9ec4c94ee0_z.jpg
Jonipoon March 26th, 2011, 04:17 AM Great shots.. That B&W version almost looks like the construction is being made in the 60's or something. :D Gnarly!
oilmanjr March 26th, 2011, 05:30 AM ^^ Yeah, aside from the glass facade buildings. :lol:
RobertWalpole March 26th, 2011, 05:43 AM Nice!
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5263/5559244675_54715a5f45_z.jpg
GOL2007 March 26th, 2011, 10:23 AM Tower 1 WTC will look like that in 2 more floors. If the picture is autentic from goole earth, there are off by 2 floors.
That's not fair! Pictures in google earth of the city where I live are at least 5 years old... and you are complaining about 2 floors!!! :lol:
Draegen March 26th, 2011, 06:05 PM We would be at least 4 floors above there if it weren't for these darn weather delays
dutchsnookerfan March 26th, 2011, 07:12 PM So much glass i like it! some of the best pictures i saw otie.
FCU March 26th, 2011, 07:49 PM A part of the blue netting (finally) went up!
http://i53.tinypic.com/2hs0xh3.png
walrus357 March 26th, 2011, 08:48 PM screen capture from Earthcam taken just few minutes ago..
http://i452.photobucket.com/albums/qq249/drunken_sky/Capture1.jpg
azn_man12345 March 26th, 2011, 09:15 PM Sorry mods. Just delete this message if you can.
I thought I accidently double posted, so I edited this one to apologize for my double. Turns out I didn't double, and now I'm just wasting space here. Sorry guys DX
Otie March 26th, 2011, 10:52 PM Neil Edde (March 18th, 2011)
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5253/5560375738_aee1e7b063_z.jpg
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5223/5559473543_9f45191d07_z.jpg
Ben Stimler (http://www.flickr.com/photos/fbsbklyn/) Looks like an old picture, huh? (March 19th, 2011)
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5064/5560187988_964bd98ec2_b.jpg
Otie March 26th, 2011, 11:08 PM GreenwichBoy (http://wirednewyork.com/forum/member.php?u=8720), WiredNewYork
http://wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=12622&d=1301144142
http://wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=12621&d=1301144129
lofter1 (http://wirednewyork.com/forum/member.php?u=4502), WiredNewYork
http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/WTC/1%20WTC/110325_1WTC_1.jpg
http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/WTC/1%20WTC/110325_1WTC_2.jpg
http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/WTC/1%20WTC/110325_1WTC_3.jpg
http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/WTC/1%20WTC/110325_1WTC_4.jpg
http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/WTC/1%20WTC/110325_1WTC_5.jpg
poshbakerloo March 26th, 2011, 11:14 PM Its great to see it being built! Its taken a long time though...
Ajaypp March 26th, 2011, 11:39 PM Neil Edde (March 18th, 2011)
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5253/5560375738_aee1e7b063_z.jpg
^^ - Superb pictures. Looks like 1 WTC has pretty much matched the heights of 2 WFC and the Goldman Sachs HQ. Or is it already taller?
Ajaypp March 26th, 2011, 11:57 PM http://si.wsj.net/public/resources/images/MI-BI842_wtc_G_20110324232027.jpg
Source: WSJ (http://online.wsj.com) / AP
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