http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6024/5935185313_7ca4cdbeee_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ryanbudhu/5935185313/)
World Trade Center July Progress Update #2 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ryanbudhu/5935185313/) by RBudhu (http://www.flickr.com/people/ryanbudhu/), on Flickr

WOW!!! :cheers:

#offtopic.

But neck and neck here. 4 votes seperating the two in the Supertalls World Cup.

http://xl.skyscrapercity.com/?page=oneonone&otherday=20110714

Chrysler Building can do with a little help if you are a regular poster on this thread.

Yeah! And next time we go for 1WTC for the cup!

I wonder when they are going to fill in those spaces in the first row of cladding?

Very good pictures, comparisons are quite amazing, in three months is more than ten floors, incredible!

PD: Question no mood to be controversial, but because if they claim that the twin towers fell from melting steel to make new steel cover of another material such as cement.

It's been a while since I checked this thread. Nice progress!!:cheers:

I wonder when they are going to fill in those spaces in the first row of cladding?

Probably not till after they clad the base. They left it open like that so they can hang scaffolding. OTOH it looks like they are constructing an external scaffolding around the base now so maybe they changed their plans.

Maybe this was done a long time ago but I can't find it.

Can someone describe all the steps involved in the construction of new floors? We see the steel going up, but what else happens that we don't see. For example, when and how does the concrete core bet built? Is that before or after the steel girders for a floor go up? When does the concrete for the floor get laid? How does the concrete get up there? etc. etc. If someone can give or link to an explanation that will be greatly appreciated.

^^ When someone asks such questions i miss Zen very much. :-( He would know the answers.

PD: Question no mood to be controversial, but because if they claim that the twin towers fell from melting steel to make new steel cover of another material such as cement.

If you look at the floors between the glass and the safety netting you will see the fire-proof coating that is applied to all the steel in the structure. The twins had some, but it was not strong enough and never designed for the force of a plane hitting.

Here is a page that shows some early fire retardant spray on the twins during construction.
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=65918563

Maybe this was done a long time ago but I can't find it.

Can someone describe all the steps involved in the construction of new floors? We see the steel going up, but what else happens that we don't see. For example, when and how does the concrete core bet built? Is that before or after the steel girders for a floor go up? When does the concrete for the floor get laid? How does the concrete get up there? etc. etc. If someone can give or link to an explanation that will be greatly appreciated.

The core concrete is lagging behind the floors quite a bit. The floor beams and concrete are poured soon after the curtain wall and core erecting steel is up.

Zen probably could have told you what mine the ore for the steel came from, and who dug it up.

Other than the 1 or 2 trees that are clearly just clinging to life, I wouldn't worry about them too much. First, some stress from the transplantation is to be expected (just like a person being weak after surgery), but this'll go away in time. Also, a lot of the "brownish" appearance that we see in some of the trees is probably just dust and whatnot which is naturally going to be in the air at one of the largest construction sites in the country. Every time it rains, the trees get "cleaned off".

Yes, I understand about Transplant Shock but this is not quite the case at Ground Zero the trees' root ball has been kept intact. And I was under the impression that the timeline for that syndrome had generally passed quite a while ago for many of these trees.

I thought of the dust theory as well, but the pattern is not consistent with contaminants being blown from sawing concrete slabs or wood nearby with electric tools. Nor is it uniform, as if being blown from construction in the East Bathtub. And this morning you can clearly see the yellowing and loss of many leaves.

http://i.imgur.com/Yh17o.jpg (http://imgur.com/Yh17o)
(Closeup of screen capture from KPI TV HD webcam found here: http://evsdatacenter.netfirms.com/kpitv/silver.htm )

This is very surprising. I assumed that those trees would be equipped with some kind of automated drip irrigation system that could, when necessary deliver pesticides or fertilizer when necessary. Sort of like an iv drip for someone in the hospital.

From what I understand, that is exactly what is being provided for the trees, yet I am unsure if it is up an running while construction is still underway.

Are those trees native to the region?

New York City does lie within their range:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c0/Swampwhiteoakrangemap.jpg
(Courtesy Wikipedia article here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swamp_White_Oak )

Conversely... I am much more confident in the condition and health of The Survivor Tree.

HD video of the history of the Survivor Tree
https://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=637144749850

Story and video about the planting of the Survivor Tree
http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?section=news/local/new_york&id=7857410

It seems to be doing surprisingly well. :)

http://i.imgur.com/4e9N3.jpg (http://imgur.com/4e9N3)
(Closeup of screen capture from KPI TV HD webcam found here: http://evsdatacenter.netfirms.com/kpitv/silver.htm )

so great to see a super tall like this one going up in the US

Guys, the trees' health concerns me as much as you, but please move the trees' stuff to the Memorial thread (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1144445&page=900).

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Lower Manhattan (http://www.flickr.com/photos/pmarella/5936438516/) by pmarella (http://www.flickr.com/people/pmarella/), on Flickr

Old one:
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6124/5935561021_06d88a41f4_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/danieltse/5935561021/)
Freedom Tower (http://www.flickr.com/photos/danieltse/5935561021/) by dan2tse (http://www.flickr.com/people/danieltse/), on Flickr

It would be kinda cool to place a model of the tower inside the Observation Deck Lobby, just like the ESB... 1WTC model at 7WTC:
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6135/5935266956_db04b1b7f5_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/42661584@N04/5935266956/)
Freedom Tower Model (http://www.flickr.com/photos/42661584@N04/5935266956/) by CSondi (http://www.flickr.com/people/42661584@N04/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6137/5935218816_a29ecb9e77_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/42661584@N04/5935218816/)
Freedom Tower Construction (http://www.flickr.com/photos/42661584@N04/5935218816/) by CSondi (http://www.flickr.com/people/42661584@N04/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6004/5935195274_3977970cdb_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/42661584@N04/5935195274/)
Freedom Tower Construction (http://www.flickr.com/photos/42661584@N04/5935195274/) by CSondi (http://www.flickr.com/people/42661584@N04/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6143/5935300926_6cf7c66501_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/42661584@N04/5935300926/)
Artists work (http://www.flickr.com/photos/42661584@N04/5935300926/) by CSondi (http://www.flickr.com/people/42661584@N04/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6146/5931033491_642bec5d7c_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/myrup/5931033491/)
Above Governors Island with lower Manhattan in the background (http://www.flickr.com/photos/myrup/5931033491/) by Euromadison (http://www.flickr.com/people/myrup/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6027/5935688926_36bc828407_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/nattapol/5935688926/)
Burning Sky (http://www.flickr.com/photos/nattapol/5935688926/) by jpnuwat (http://www.flickr.com/people/nattapol/), on Flickr

I notice the pic with the 1wtc model has the old communication platform ring design i wonder are they sticking to that design or what?

^ The artists working on that floor? Probably. The architects? Nope.

This was taken a short time ago. I went out today and thought I should finally contribute a picture to this thread. It's pretty embarrassing compared to the other awesome HQ pics that others post here :lol: but it just shows the building from my perspective, at the corner of Broome St. and 6th avenue

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6121/5938204440_3ee7c5b201_b.jpg

^^i like that pic. it shows the site from a new perspective.

Here is a short time-lapse I created using webcam shots. From late April to mid July.

DxOhFwcSch8

^Nice vid. Do you have webcam shots from before April 25? It'd be amazing to see a timelapse from start to finish ^.^




On a different note, does anyone know the "official" spelling of the WTC Towers? Is this building officially "1 World Trade Center" or "One World Trade Center?"

Correct me if I am wrong, but is that model of 1 wtc not inside 1 wtc itself? The interior matches that of earlier shots of 1 wtc's interior, plus the presence of construction lights also leads me to believe that is indeed 1 wtc's interior, as I doubt construction lights would still be present at this juncture inside 7 wtc.

^Remember that tenants are the ones in charge to decorate, paint, enclose columns, add a proper lighting system and incorporate other elements. That model is located on the 48th floor of Larry's 7WTC. The floor is occupied by Marcus Robinson, an artist who's documenting the rebuilding of the complex throughout paintings, short films and sketches.

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6126/5935288458_791b6cc9f8_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/42661584@N04/5935288458/)
Artists work Area (http://www.flickr.com/photos/42661584@N04/5935288458/) by CSondi (http://www.flickr.com/people/42661584@N04/), on Flickr

Nice timelapse, percy!

So what's the deal with those (what appear to be) 3 pipes?

Stunning project!~

So what's the deal with those (what appear to be) 3 pipes?

It looks like a steel column (coated in fireproofing) and two pipes. The pipes could be for anything (water, conduit for wires, roof drains, etc.), but since they're insulated, they're probably for steam, hot water, chilled water, or such. It'll all be boxed in with metal studs and drywall when the future tenant upfits the floor.

If I wanted to, could I lease one floor of 1WTC for private use?

If I wanted to, could I lease one floor of 1WTC for private use?

If you have a spare 100 million dollars or so...go right ahead.

is 1 wtc now in the top 10 of the tallest buildings in manhattan???

is 1 wtc now in the top 10 of the tallest buildings in manhattan???

i think it is. wheres the checklist? edit: It was #3 Downtown the last time i checked, using that it's behind: ESB, Chrysler, Citigroup, BoA, Ny Times (w/ antenna), 40 wall st, and American International

is 1 wtc now in the top 10 of the tallest buildings in manhattan???

It's #8 at ~910 feet. 7 more are taller. Citigroup 915', 40 Wall 927', 70 Pine 952', NYTT 1046', Chrysler 1046', BoA 1200', and Empire State 1250'.

Now we both know the Chrysler building isn't 1,200 feet tall. Ok now how many more buildings in the country are taller than it.

Now we both know the Chrysler building isn't 1,200 feet tall. Ok now how many more buildings in the country are taller than it.

Whoops. Thanks for spotting that. I fixed it.

^Nice vid. Do you have webcam shots from before April 25? It'd be amazing to see a timelapse from start to finish ^.^




On a different note, does anyone know the "official" spelling of the WTC Towers? Is this building officially "1 World Trade Center" or "One World Trade Center?"

I will post a time-lapse video of the progress from sep2010 to sep2011 (same webcam).. you will probably see the video on the 10th anniversary of 911 attacks.

wtc looking more wonderful by the day. :omg:

i love you NY!

1 wtc is the 8 tallest building in new york 24 tallest building in the us 105 tallest building in the world.

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IMG_3534 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/chrisgold/5938765787/) by ChrisGoldNY (http://www.flickr.com/people/chrisgold/), on Flickr

Them canvases Look great.
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6126/5935288458_791b6cc9f8_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/42661584@N04/5935288458/)
Artists work Area (http://www.flickr.com/photos/42661584@N04/5935288458/) by CSondi (http://www.flickr.com/people/42661584@N04/), on Flickr

http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy285/Sutty2000/wtc/churchst_531.jpg
http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy285/Sutty2000/wtc/2-Rendering---WTC-Freedom-Tower.jpg

Probably not the right place but have u seen these mini twin towers in china they are VERY VERY similar in design to the old twins never knew about these.

http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy285/Sutty2000/wtc/16187028.jpg

http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy285/Sutty2000/wtc/6167148.jpg

Don't ya think?
http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy285/Sutty2000/wtc/wtcperspektiveke6.jpg

^^ Where in China are those towers, and how tall are they??

those buildings where probably designed by Minoru Yamasaki who design the twins or at lest some architect who was inspired by Minoru Yamasaki designs.

Will NYC build a supertall taller than 1WTC？
Even Shanghai has a tower taller than 600 meters.But 1WTC is only 417m.
NYC must keep to be tallest!

^^ Where in China are those towers, and how tall are they??

There in the city of Wuhan, Hubei state, China. They are 104.6 m 28 floors.
http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=24880

those buildings where probably designed by Minoru Yamasaki who design the twins or at lest some architect who was inspired by Minoru Yamasaki designs.

That's what i thought, They are so alike. I love the base, how the pillars fork off and run all the way up the building, thats what i loved about the twins.

^^ Merci sir.

Good to see that there is a relic on this planet of the twins still in the 21st century.

Good find there.

morrongiello (http://www.flickr.com/photos/morrongiello/) on flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6147/5938060026_ba7af362b6_b.jpg

Morrongiello Flickr account has well categorized collection of development photosof 1WTC and the rest of the NWTC site over the past few years. Worth having a look.

Good progress on the tower. It also seems the construction of the Transportation Hub is in full swing, as well as Greenwitch St. (which is apparently going to be a four lane street?)

But they have to work some magic in the next 2 months to really be ready for the 10 year anniversary.

Will NYC build a supertall taller than 1WTC？
Even Shanghai has a tower taller than 600 meters.But 1WTC is only 417m.
NYC must keep to be tallest!

It's been 40 years since NYC had the tallest. I think people need to let it go.

It's been 40 years since NYC had the tallest. I think people need to let it go.

Wrong. The Twin Towers were the tallest buildings in the world until 1998, when surpassed by the Petronas Towers. NY could easily have reclaimed the title in Lower Manhattan if Larry Silverstein had planned for one or two fewer towers (there are five + the performing arts center). The failure to pursue the title is some kind of pointless fear that terrorists would be more attracted to it than they would anyway.

Wrong. The Twin Towers were the tallest buildings in the world until 1998, when surpassed by the Petronas Towers. NY could easily have reclaimed the title in Lower Manhattan if Larry Silverstein had planned for one or two fewer towers (there are five + the performing arts center). The failure to pursue the title is some kind of pointless fear that terrorists would be more attracted to it than they would anyway.

I'm new here...I'm not a architect, or a building "buff"...just a NYer who loves the progress of the construction site. But, I'm pretty sure the Sears tower (which I think is called the Willis tower now)beat out the twins back in the 70's. Anyway, back on topic...I might be going down to the site to take some photos. My camera is only a decent digital camera...it doesn't compare to the beautiful photos that most of you are posting. But I'll give it a shot. A big THANK YOU for all who contribute photos and knowledge to this site. It's very inspiring!!!!!

The failure to pursue the title is some kind of pointless fear that terrorists would be more attracted to it than they would anyway.

This is not a pointless fear.
This building is meant to represent the Twins in a safer, more modern form.
We aren't in a battle with the rest of the world. We aren't in a "height" race. These buildings will still be among the tallest in the world. The new World Trade Center is a slap in the face to the terrorists, but it doesn't need to be focused on them. Be happy with what we have thus far. These buildings are of very high quality and they're much safer than the Twins were.

PS: The netting's being raised over the new columns.

Dave, great find on the mini twins in China. That is so surreal!

Your welcome olimanjr, Minoru Yamasaki work ? ? or like "yankee fan for life" said a designer/architect who was inspired by him.

Miss the times when NYC was at the very top... well it's too bad that if they build another world's tallest (not very likely anyway) it would completely dominate the skyline.

^^ Can you imagine a building as tall as the Burj Khalifa in NY? :nuts: :runaway:

Wrong. The Twin Towers were the tallest buildings in the world until 1998, when surpassed by the Petronas Towers. NY could easily have reclaimed the title in Lower Manhattan if Larry Silverstein had planned for one or two fewer towers (there are five + the performing arts center). The failure to pursue the title is some kind of pointless fear that terrorists would be more attracted to it than they would anyway.

Sears Tower bro.

Wrong. The Twin Towers were the tallest buildings in the world until 1998, when surpassed by the Petronas Towers. NY could easily have reclaimed the title in Lower Manhattan if Larry Silverstein had planned for one or two fewer towers (there are five + the performing arts center). The failure to pursue the title is some kind of pointless fear that terrorists would be more attracted to it than they would anyway.

To be honest building the worlds tallest building wouldnt have even been a good idea the scale of the 1wtc it about 2x the financial center which scales nicely building something taller than the bk there would have just been for the sole purpose of being the tallest with no respect shown towards the rest of downtown and it would have looked rediculous. To be honest who even cares anymore the tallest buildings are losing all human scale and are getting to be abnoxious. They will never be able to take away our past and we had the worlds tallest when it mattered, nowadays you can literally go as high as you want pretty easily.

To be honest building the worlds tallest building wouldnt have even been a good idea the scale of the 1wtc it about 2x the financial center which scales nicely building something taller than the bk there would have just been for the sole purpose of being the tallest with no respect shown towards the rest of downtown and it would have looked rediculous. To be honest who even cares anymore the tallest buildings are losing all human scale and are getting to be abnoxious. They will never be able to take away our past and we had the worlds tallest when it mattered, nowadays you can literally go as high as you want pretty easily.

I agree with you completely. It's a pointless race, some of these supertalls look so out of place in some instances and show no regard to how they fit with their sorroundings

This building was design to be the tallest. But that was 7 years ago. And I don't think it's pointless to want the WTB in NYC. It wasn't pointless when the city had the title, the first few times.

the USA will never have the tallest building again. sorry, but that time is over.

the USA will never have the tallest building again. sorry, but that time is over.

Who's stopping me from building a 3000 foot building in my backyard? That should count,right?

the USA will never have the tallest building again. sorry, but that time is over.


If we wanted it, we would have it. And that sir you can take to the bank. Or did you forget who's designing, those tall ass building around the world.

If we wanted it, we would have it. And that sir you can take to the bank. Or did you forget who's designing, those tall ass building around the world.

Don't Want to get political but with the way America is heading economically you won't. 20 years from now it looks as if you will be a complete shadow of what you used to be unless you some how turn it around. Which I hope you do.

Back on topic. America is smart. They don't bring out a huge building just to be the biggest but they bring out one that looks well with the city and is also a very impressive size.

Who's stopping me from building a 3000 foot building in my backyard? That should count,right?

go ahead, LOL. but seriously the arabs or chinese would prevent that.
maybe one day Russia or India will build the tallest. btw. in a few days
the US will be broke !? :nuts:

btw. in a few days
the US will be broke !? :nuts:

If we go down so does everyone else. :cheers:

^^ Can you imagine a building as tall as the Burj Khalifa in NY? :nuts: :runaway:

It would look the same as it does in dubai HIDEOUS! I can't see there being another taller building than the burj khalifa for decades. . . it's ridiculously big.

We build fighter jets that cost a billion dollar a piece. What makes you think we can't building the WTB. Do you know how many billionaire, millionaire live in NYC.

the USA will never have the tallest building again. sorry, but that time is over.

I'm sorry, but unless you're net worth is a trillion bucks, neither you or anyone else here can predict the future. Modern capitalistic economies go through booms and busts, always will, and if there is a private commercial need for such a building and it's owner/developer thinks he can make $$$ doing it, it will be built. For one, Donald Trump has developed plans for such a building in the past, and did not find it advantageous to build it to date. Take your agenda somewhere else, Pfeuffer.

We build fighter jets that cost a billion dollar a piece. What makes you think we can't building the WTB. Do you know how many billionaire, millionaire live in NYC.

most millionaires live in Moscow and Mumbai.

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6127/5939827661_9b01e3dce4_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dylan_gaughan/5939827661/)
Freedom Towers (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dylan_gaughan/5939827661/) by dylangaughan43 (http://www.flickr.com/people/dylan_gaughan/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6124/5940383010_6b44157957_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dylan_gaughan/5940383010/)
The Fireboat 343 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dylan_gaughan/5940383010/) by dylangaughan43 (http://www.flickr.com/people/dylan_gaughan/), on Flickr

phew, thanks for posting these Otie. Hopefully they'll be enough to shift the focus of this thread back to 1 WTC :)

that's nice shot with 1 WTC and that fire boat.

Last time I check there were more than 60 billionaires living in NYC.

The stainless steel corners look well defined in the last picture there, too.

I'm excited to see how the WFC compliments the glass towers being built behind them. The Goldman-Sachs building makes it even better. It's an awesome blend.

This is not a pointless fear.
This building is meant to represent the Twins in a safer, more modern form.
We aren't in a battle with the rest of the world.

The rationalization of losers. :bash: It isn't about being in a battle - it's about striving, challenge, and pushing the envelope for the sake of progress and human achievement. "...not because they are easy, but because they are hard." The new 1 WTC is great as a building in general, but in context it's a pretty pathetic statement. This country needs to start caring once again about achieving things on a global scale, not settling for a self-congratulatory social promotion of "It's the best in America, even if it's #17 in the world."

most millionaires live in Moscow and Mumbai.

Oops,

1) US 4,715,000 millionaire households
2)Japan 1,230,000
3)China, 670,000
4)UK 485,000

15)India 140,000 (that would be 2.9% of US)

Russia, not even Top 20

Agenda...Yes
Intelligence...No

http://images.businessweek.com/ss/10/06/0615_global_millionaires/2.htm

The rationalization of losers. :bash: It isn't about being in a battle - it's about striving, challenge, and pushing the envelope for the sake of progress and human achievement. "...not because they are easy, but because they are hard." The new 1 WTC is great as a building in general, but in context it's a pretty pathetic statement.

Hey rigatoni, didn't think you would be back after you were proven incorrect on your correction of another poster on how the original towers were the tallest in the world through 1998. :ohno:

BTW, I will be visiting NYC at the end of this month, camera in hand, so I can contribute here rather than just reply to the trolls and negative posters (can't help myself).

the USA will never have the tallest building again. sorry, but that time is over.You never know, a hundred years from now

Them canvases Look great.
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What's that building closest on the picture? (the one with the slanted roof)

I'm excited to see how the WFC compliments the glass towers being built behind them. The Goldman-Sachs building makes it even better. It's an awesome blend.

I think so too. I think the combination of the WFC's style and the WTC's style will look great together. :banana2:

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downtown (http://www.flickr.com/photos/estatik/5934959220/) by • estatik • (http://www.flickr.com/people/estatik/), on Flickr

edit: PANYNJ on Twitter:

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^Connectors working hard as steel rises to the 74th story of One World Trade Center.

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^Views from the 68th story of One World Trade Center.

new york doesnt build wtb's anymore because it doesnt need to. wtb's and very tall buildings in general (2000ft+) nowadays are nothing more than tools developing countries or cities use to try to get themselves internationally recognized. dubai builds tall simply because it wants the world to think it possesses a significance it simply doesnt have. the chinese are building multiple 2000ft+ buildings now just because they want to make the world think they are more powerful than they really are. new york doesnt need wtb's because it has already proven to the world its significance. its one of the top three most important cities in the world, maybe even the most important. sure, the bk and all those really massive projects in dubai make it look significant on the outside, but with a little bit of reasearch and scratching of the surface, it becomes clear that dubai really isnt that important.

Actually the north tower was the tallest building in the us by pinnacle height at 1727 feet until 2000 when 15 feet where added to the willis to make the willis tower pinnacle at 1730.

In Otie's first pic, I really wonder why Goldman Sachs has 99% of their lights on?

I like how the lights of 1WTC, reflect off of tower 7. I wish they could light up one side of tower 7, like that every night.

In Otie's first pic, I really wonder why Goldman Sachs has 99% of their lights on?

They work late! :nuts:

Somebody from Goldmans should do us a favor and take some picture of WTC from the top floor.

Wow. The 73rd and 74th floor went up real fast.

Here's a little something from my room at the World Trade Hotel

http://gallery.mac.com/petebellamy/101694/IMGP2476/web.jpg?ver=13107611550001

Wow its coming up faster than I thought!

Somebody from Goldmans should do us a favor and take some picture of WTC from the top floor.

They don't have time. They are too busy figuring out new ways to fleece the US government :ohno:

So are they still planning on having a Windows on the World style restaurant?

Nope. The idea was scrapped in March.

Well, this tower has more than enough "mechanical" floors. (whatever that means) so there had better be an actual use for the space, like a gift shop or cafeteria. It never had to be a world class restaurant.

^ That space can be used for special events.

Bless your hearts...

The gap in those two rows of glass is for the stairs that start above, right?

^ That space can be used for special events.

Like what? :dunno:

wish they could make 1 wtc a little bit taller can't stand the fact that the mecca clock tower will be taller.

well atleast 1 wtc has class, the mecca clock tower looks like a casino

well atleast 1 wtc has class, the mecca clock tower looks like a casino
Said it before but no city on earth does class like New York :banana::)

Especially with WTC1,fantastic building

Carlos photo update time i reckon....

This thing is getting up there pretty quick. I really want to see this up close soon.

Here's a little something from my room at the World Trade Hotel

http://gallery.mac.com/petebellamy/101694/IMGP2476/web.jpg?ver=13107611550001

Is there a specific reason for that missing cladding? And also what's up with that portion of the base?

Is there a specific reason for that missing cladding? And also what's up with that portion of the base?

The cladding at the base was supposed to be a prismic glass design on top of the concrete blast bunker, but it is currently undergoing a redesign due to manufacturing issues. We can expect to see base cladding a coule months after the concrete blast walls at the base are finished. As for the missing panels abobe the base, they are missing because the steel place holders are going to be used to hold scaffolding for the base cladding.

Diagram update:
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6147/5941698025_0cefebb97b_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/62018165@N04/5941698025/)
One World Trade Center Diagram July 15th, 2011 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/62018165@N04/5941698025/) by Otie O'Daniel (http://www.flickr.com/people/62018165@N04/), on Flickr

Larger version (http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/8049/1wtc150711.png) | 3D version (http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/4620/1wtc3d15julio.jpg)

The cladding at the base was supposed to be a prismic glass design on top of the concrete blast bunker, but it is currently undergoing a redesign due to manufacturing issues. We can expect to see base cladding a coule months after the concrete blast walls at the base are finished. As for the missing panels abobe the base, they are missing because the steel place holders are going to be used to hold scaffolding for the base cladding.

^^ The missing pieces of cladding have nothing to do with the scaffolding, the steel pieces in place are to help keep the cladding straight and true. :cheers:

The cladding at the base was supposed to be a prismic glass design on top of the concrete blast bunker, but it is currently undergoing a redesign due to manufacturing issues. We can expect to see base cladding a coule months after the concrete blast walls at the base are finished. As for the missing panels abobe the base, they are missing because the steel place holders are going to be used to hold scaffolding for the base cladding.

I appreciate your response but I guess I wasn't clear enough in my original post.

What I meant was, why are there missing pieces of cladding right in the middle on the top 2 rows? And about the base, I meant why does that corner of the base have that extra stuff attached to it now? I know the story of the base cladding issues, but I was just wondering what that other stuff is and if they're going to do that to the whole base.

Otie, I love your diagrams of both 1 and 4 WTC. Thanks so much for sharing those!

king, I honestly can't believe you like the Mecca Clock Tower because I noticed that we like mostly the same buildings and architecture, but I do not agree with you here.

Nice! The thread is clean..

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6001/5940278839_31526d473f_b.jpg
Photo by Emilio Guerra (http://www.flickr.com/photos/emilio_guerra/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6140/5942361942_ebe281309b_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/15434282@N00/5942361942/)
NYC - Manhattan - One World Trade Center is rising (http://www.flickr.com/photos/15434282@N00/5942361942/) by cerdsp (http://www.flickr.com/people/15434282@N00/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6150/5939617201_db18903183_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/44924113@N05/5939617201/)
One World Trade Center (http://www.flickr.com/photos/44924113@N05/5939617201/) by berm-eater (http://www.flickr.com/people/44924113@N05/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6017/5941935488_dc366c2278_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/vinschiano/5941935488/)
Ground Zero (http://www.flickr.com/photos/vinschiano/5941935488/) by Vin_Schiano (http://www.flickr.com/people/vinschiano/), a.k.a. 325ccr, on Flickr and on SSC.

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klausharbo-20110715-1002637.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/klaus-harbo/5941584175/) by Klaus Harbo (http://www.flickr.com/people/klaus-harbo/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6122/5937020690_9e5ed098de_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/chrisgold/5937020690/)
Freedom Tower and Woolworth Building from the Gehry Building - NYC (http://www.flickr.com/photos/chrisgold/5937020690/) by ChrisGoldNY (http://www.flickr.com/people/chrisgold/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6010/5938428072_de445d2ec8.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jhyun/5938428072/)
Ground Zero에 세로 짓고 있는 The Freedom Tower. 많이 올라갔네. (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jhyun/5938428072/) by Jay Joo (http://www.flickr.com/people/jhyun/), on Flickr

Though NYC will never has tallest building of the world by these decades，but NYC is most beatiful city！It is still my favourite modern city。
Dubai is just like a construction plant。
Shanghai ‘s nightview is terrible！

To each their own.

[QUOTE=michaelalive]Though NYC will never has tallest building of the world by these decades，but NYC is most beatiful city！It is still my favourite modern city。
Dubai is just like a construction plant。
Shanghai ‘s nightview is terrible！

never say never.

Diagram update:
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6147/5941698025_0cefebb97b_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/62018165@N04/5941698025/)
One World Trade Center Diagram July 15th, 2011 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/62018165@N04/5941698025/) by Otie O'Daniel (http://www.flickr.com/people/62018165@N04/), on Flickr

Larger version (http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/8049/1wtc150711.png) | 3D version (http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/4620/1wtc3d15julio.jpg)

Check your diagram; looks like you forgot to update some of your captions....:)

Does anybody knows what the final design of the communication platform ring will be.

Does anyone have any new additional photos of the INTERIOR of the building? It would be really cool to see how the fitting-out of the lower floors (those with cladding) is progressing.:):):)

How much longer until the reach the final office floor?

[QUOTE=Wisch ]How much longer until the reach the final office floor?

around 3 more months until they reach the 88 floor.

Otie, I love your diagrams of both 1 and 4 WTC. Thanks so much for sharing those!

king, I honestly can't believe you like the Mecca Clock Tower because I noticed that we like mostly the same buildings and architecture, but I do not agree with you here.

You'll find I like most things, ppl tend to hate at first. Like the Beekman and this building. And when I hate a building, I rarely change my mind about it.

You know how they kept the height to be 1776 for obvo reasons. If it mattered so much to them, then they should of built the building itselfs to 1776 feet and then put the spire up which would take them up to including the spire into the 1900's feet.sorry but it would just be amazing if they added just a few more feet. Nevertheless it's a beautiful building. How big do you think it will be by semptember 11th? Also are they not letting people right to the top or just to the level below the supposed restaurant? How long after do you think someone will plan a building even taller than the freedom tower.

Who knows remember by the time 1 wtc is complete the Willis tower will end its 40 year reign as the tallest building in the us but i am pretty sure that Chicago will want there title back and will build a taller building soon.

I meant in new York.... Probes take another 40 years until they build a taller building in new York. Although seeing some off the supertalls going up in now is amazing. All 4 of the WTC( yes I know I no that 4 WTC isn't a super tall but come on. It's like 12 feet away), one 57, tower verre, girasole and a few others I can't remember the names of. Really hope the one that is on hold on church street starts again as it would look brilliant alongside WTC.

It's planned to restart early/middle 2012 isn't it?

What the church street building! Sorry if it's going off topic but could anyone tell me what the official name of it is so I can search it on the forums.... Thanks

Well still hoping for the Madison square garden towers that will be 1400 feet tall that will be 32 feet taller then 1 wtc by roof, that's the closest proposed project right now to rival 1 wtc but only time will tell if they will build taller in new york.

The tower is looking great and the area should be great in a few years time.
Yes the pain and memory will still be there but that does not mean that it cant be great again and instead of looking to the past we are looking to the future and I believe it could it will bring closure to people and show those terroist that they have not won and they never will.

Here's how it's looking tonight...

http://gallery.mac.com/petebellamy/101694/IMGP2608/web.jpg?ver=13108660780001

Really starting to take shape this thing... It might look half decent in the end.

Honestly, they should just keep the night lights like that forever. That would be great, unfortunately though, it will never happen.

Honestly, they should just keep the night lights like that forever. That would be great, unfortunately though, it will never happen.
Sure it could. Just offer to pay the electric bill.

I was crossing the Verrazano-Narrows Bridge today notice that 1 wtc looks much more dominating from that view than it does from the ground.

looks good but why's it taking so long

looks good but why's it taking so long

It's not. It's gone up 50 stories in about 50 weeks, at this rate, the PA are hopeful that the One WTC will top out at the end of the year (unlikely, but very much possible) :cheers:

Here's how it's looking tonight...

http://gallery.mac.com/petebellamy/101694/IMGP2608/web.jpg?ver=13108660780001

In a year this would be perfect for a wallpaper :cheers:

Honestly, they should just keep the night lights like that forever. That would be great, unfortunately though, it will never happen.

I'm glad that somebody else sees the beauty of construction lights too :cheers:

I've always thought Manhattan lacks some high-tech building like ones Shanghai and Hong-Kong are rich in. I believe this would be the one.

P. S. Awesome pics

July 16th, Greenwichboy, WNY..

http://wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=13589&d=1310822721

July 16th, lofter1, WNY..

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July 16th, lofter1, WNY..

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/WTC/1%20WTC/110715_1WTC_20.jpg

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http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/WTC/1%20WTC/110715_1WTC_29.jpg

Nice update.

Looks very skinny.

3 months
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July 16th, Greenwichboy, WNY..
http://wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=13589&d=1310822721

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World Trade Center tower see down Fulton Street #nyc #WTC (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ryansorensen/5944982707/) by Ryan Sorensen (http://www.flickr.com/people/ryansorensen/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6128/5944978124_63fe73e01e_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/25196404@N05/5944978124/)
One World Trade Center (http://www.flickr.com/photos/25196404@N05/5944978124/) by H4vok_13 (http://www.flickr.com/people/25196404@N05/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6001/5944954280_e883b3ecc0_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/joelrnyc/5944954280/)
Freedom Tower (http://www.flickr.com/photos/joelrnyc/5944954280/) by Joel Raskin (http://www.flickr.com/people/joelrnyc/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6002/5944321521_cd31c7bb6a_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/cholmesphoto/5944321521/)
World Trade Center Construction Site (http://www.flickr.com/photos/cholmesphoto/5944321521/) by cholmesphoto (http://www.flickr.com/people/cholmesphoto/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6142/5944331349_85ab339b9e_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/cholmesphoto/5944331349/)
FDNY Marine 1 Fire Boat "Three Forty Three" (http://www.flickr.com/photos/cholmesphoto/5944331349/) by cholmesphoto (http://www.flickr.com/people/cholmesphoto/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6009/5941721381_5a1776111b_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/47823103@N06/5941721381/)
NYC Manhattan skyline (http://www.flickr.com/photos/47823103@N06/5941721381/) by MerVas (http://www.flickr.com/people/47823103@N06/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6013/5941662687_918f0e5404_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/47823103@N06/5941662687/)
NYC Skyline (http://www.flickr.com/photos/47823103@N06/5941662687/) by MerVas (http://www.flickr.com/people/47823103@N06/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6008/5943724915_0cffb2a06a_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/vinschiano/5943724915/)
Ground Zero (http://www.flickr.com/photos/vinschiano/5943724915/) by Vin_Schiano (http://www.flickr.com/people/vinschiano/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6124/5944279924_affd609d7c_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/vinschiano/5944279924/)
Ground Zero (http://www.flickr.com/photos/vinschiano/5944279924/) by Vin_Schiano (http://www.flickr.com/people/vinschiano/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6027/5943717101_ee8f9d891a_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/vinschiano/5943717101/)
Ground Zero (http://www.flickr.com/photos/vinschiano/5943717101/) by Vin_Schiano (http://www.flickr.com/people/vinschiano/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6128/5943690319_8a5c53a888_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/vinschiano/5943690319/)
Ground Zero (http://www.flickr.com/photos/vinschiano/5943690319/) by Vin_Schiano (http://www.flickr.com/people/vinschiano/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6017/5944239420_a878a48e46_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/vinschiano/5944239420/)
Ground Zero (http://www.flickr.com/photos/vinschiano/5944239420/) by Vin_Schiano (http://www.flickr.com/people/vinschiano/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6015/5941940044_04e37a9d3a_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/vinschiano/5941940044/)
Ground Zero (http://www.flickr.com/photos/vinschiano/5941940044/) by Vin_Schiano (http://www.flickr.com/people/vinschiano/), on Flickr

Are there any plans to repave 9A along the west side of the memorial? It kind of bulges out.

Does the scaffolding on the base mean cladding is going to start soon?

Right the glass is currently being redesigned and does not get installed until the tower has reached a certain hight to avoid damage and for transportation issues.

There really should be a FAQ :D

Carlos photo update time i reckon....

Hey I'm back, i was away for a few days celebrating still my birthday at the Pines in Fire island!!!!



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DSC_1227 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ceva321/5946347173/) by Ceva321 (http://www.flickr.com/people/ceva321/), on Flickr

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DSC_1233 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ceva321/5947032704/) by Ceva321 (http://www.flickr.com/people/ceva321/), on Flickr

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DSC_1232 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ceva321/5947031568/) by Ceva321 (http://www.flickr.com/people/ceva321/), on Flickr

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DSC_1231 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ceva321/5946477993/) by Ceva321 (http://www.flickr.com/people/ceva321/), on Flickr

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/WTC/1%20WTC/110715_1WTC_24.jpg

Judging by this picture it looks as though getting in and out of the building will be somewhat slow due to those narrow passageways and, of course, lots of security.

Right the glass is currently being redesigned and does not get installed until the tower has reached a certain hight to avoid damage and for transportation issues.

There really should be a FAQ :D

I 100% agree with you. A FAQ about technical stuff and renting stuff should really be in this topic.

Btw, I have one question, how much did Conde Nast rent and how much did it pay for it?

Whats with the missing section of steel? anybody?
http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy285/Sutty2000/wtc/5944239420_a878a48e46_b.jpg

Btw, I have one question, how much did Conde Nast rent and how much did it pay for it?

1 million sf, 25 year lease at a cost of $1.9B.

Looks very skinny.

What are you talking about? It doesn't look skinny at all, it's fucking massive.

What are all those brown buuildings along the waterfront?

^^ stuyvesant house and waterside plaza

Looks very skinny.

Obviously you haven't seen it up close. Like patrick989 said, it's fucking massive.

How can anyone say the tower looks skinny?

BTW, the cladding glass panels looks great!

1 million sf, 25 year lease at a cost of $1.9B.

Thanks :cheers:

Btw, I think it's massive. Beekman is skinny.

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Thanks, those pictures are really cool :cheers:

Thanks, those pictures are really cool :cheers:

esp. the photo laps!!!

Yes, I would strongly recomand to everyone to watch the time lapse..It's amazing..

Does anyone know why there are a few missing pieces of cladding on the top 2 rows?

Does anyone know why there are a few missing pieces of cladding on the top 2 rows?


I think they just moved some cargo elevator out of the way. I'm sure those pieces will be filled in this week.

pics don't give 1 wtc justice you have to see this baby in person its pretty massive .

Whats with the missing section of steel? anybody?
http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy285/Sutty2000/wtc/5944239420_a878a48e46_b.jpg

I was wondering about that too. I know early on there were some pieces missing from the podium but I don't remeber this one....is this something that was removed recently?:wtf:

i just looked at older photos and it was there :S wut

Dusk in NYC and still 86 degrees!!!!!

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DSC_1240 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ceva321/5948163331/) by Ceva321 (http://www.flickr.com/people/ceva321/), on Flickr

What are some of the innovative new safety features for this building? I was joking around in the WTC2 thread that they ought to have slides, in addition to stairwells. Could a safe slide be utilized in some way or is that stupid?

Best Wishes,
Matt

What are some of the innovative new safety features for this building? I was joking around in the WTC2 thread that they ought to have slides, in addition to stairwells. Could a safe slide be utilized in some way or is that stupid?

Best Wishes,
Matt

Do you mean like a mcdonalds playhouse slide? Sounds fun.

this tower is damn nice and quick!when it will be t/o?any idea?

It's supposed to be topped out by 2012 winter and finished sometime in '13 with full cladding, spire and all.
As I have been told by friendly forumers and also backed up with some research.

What are some of the innovative new safety features for this building? I was joking around in the WTC2 thread that they ought to have slides, in addition to stairwells. Could a safe slide be utilized in some way or is that stupid?

Best Wishes,
Matt

are you serious? hahahahaha

What are some of the innovative new safety features for this building? I was joking around in the WTC2 thread that they ought to have slides, in addition to stairwells. Could a safe slide be utilized in some way or is that stupid?

Best Wishes,
Matt

Hey if you can prove that is a safer and more efficient emergency escape route than stairs, try to patent it. You might wind up a millionaire.

It's supposed to be topped out by 2012 winter and finished sometime in '13 with full cladding, spire and all.
As I have been told by friendly forumers and also backed up with some research.

Topping out is in early 2012, like February I believe.

Topping out is in early 2012, like February I believe.

Yup

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Whats with the missing section of steel? anybody?
http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy285/Sutty2000/wtc/5944239420_a878a48e46_b.jpg

Go back a month or so there use to be a hole there. Its to get equipment into the mechanical floors.

http://xl.skyscrapercity.com/?page=oneonone&otherday=20110714

New York needs some more Votes!

http://xl.skyscrapercity.com/?page=oneonone&otherday=20110714

New York needs some more Votes!
you mean supertall world cup？i had vote for Chrysler bldg:banana:

http://xl.skyscrapercity.com/?page=oneonone&otherday=20110714

New York needs some more Votes!
oh！sorry It's willis vs 1251 av of the americas,I vote NY's ,too.

What are some of the innovative new safety features for this building? I was joking around in the WTC2 thread that they ought to have slides, in addition to stairwells. Could a safe slide be utilized in some way or is that stupid?

Best Wishes,
Matt

Maybe these could be incorporated into the design too:

http://imgs.xkcd.com/blag/ballpen/all.jpg

http://imgs.xkcd.com/blag/ballpen/all.jpg

:nuts::hammer::cheer::horse::crazy2::rofl:

What are some of the innovative new safety features for this building? I was joking around in the WTC2 thread that they ought to have slides, in addition to stairwells. Could a safe slide be utilized in some way or is that stupid?

Best Wishes,
Matt

Joking aside, there may be some point there. Sliding must be safer then running if the worst happened. Although alot of collisions would occur with people bumping into each other as there are alot of floors. I'm not sure

I love the building but I just wish it could be a lot higher cause if New York was to ever get a 600 meter building, it would be bigger than this and it would be strange not to have the icing on the cake in this part of the City (icing on the cake being the biggest building in the city)

One thing I cant wait for is when they are going to be constructing the spire.
Carlos I am counting on you to have a few good pictures of that for us buddy.
Would be great to see and wacth but unfortunatly I will be in another country but oh well there is always YouTube and Carlos.

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based on comparing the above pictures with the ones that Carlos posted and analyzing how far below the side crane the cladding is it looks like Carlos should start to see a portion of the cladding in about 4 weeks.

:applause:

in my opinion the best skyline in the world.

Man, 4WFC looks so fat in those photos. It's the fattest highrise since the pyraminds :rofl:

GettyImages...

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:applause:

in my opinion the best skyline in the world.

Yes I have live in new York most of my life and in my opinion nothing compares. Dubai is an incredible sight, but it just doesn't have that complete look that NYC does. Not to mention, most of the buildings aren't nearly as marvelous as new york's

What about Chicago. Where does it's skyline rank? I think New York is becoming the best, but Chicago probably looked better after 2001--unfortunately.

One thing I cant wait for is when they are going to be constructing the spire.
Carlos I am counting on you to have a few good pictures of that for us buddy.
Would be great to see and wacth but unfortunatly I will be in another country but oh well there is always YouTube and Carlos.

where will you be???



Dog Day afternoon!!! 93 degrees baking the Big Apple!! :ohno:

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The sky literally looks as if it is on fire.

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Wow, no workers and it looks like they are done for the day. Is this normal or does it have to do with the heat?
Now is not the time to slack off :-)

where will you be???



Dog Day afternoon!!! 93 degrees baking the Big Apple!! :ohno:

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93 degrees? That's a nice warm afternoon for me :cheers:

Wow, no workers and it looks like they are done for the day. Is this normal or does it have to do with the heat?
Now is not the time to slack off :-)

I hope they're all on a lunch break! I'd hate to see this fall behind, especially with the exceptional progress recently.

Man, 4WFC looks so fat in those photos. It's the fattest highrise since the pyraminds :rofl:

:lol: And remember, it is only ten feet short of a supertall. Imagine how enormous that will look once it is done! :eek:

In Otie's first pic, I really wonder why Goldman Sachs has 99% of their lights on?
because they have no individual light-switch. MAybe there is even one person working....can't imagine something like this until I saw it myself

ten feet short?????of being a supertall? damn!!!!!! 95 degrees and 40% humidity!! welcome to NY

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:lol: And remember, it is only ten feet short of a supertall. Imagine how enormous that will look once it is done! :eek:

LOL, not 4WTC, but 4WFC, that's the shortest building of the World Financial Center :cheers:

The tower workers work very hard day in and day out, they deserve to take their time and work a little bit slower if the heat and humidity get to them. It's all about safety, not speed. Just remember that.

:lol: And remember, it is only ten feet short of a supertall. Imagine how enormous that will look once it is done! :eek:

More like 25 feet since 4WTC is 975 feet. Then again he was talking about 4 WFC, so it's going to take more than that.

More like 25 feet since 4WTC is 975 feet. Then again he was talking about 4 WFC, so it's going to take more than that.

I thought a supertall was 300m not 1000ft

The tower workers work very hard day in and day out, they deserve to take their time and work a little bit slower if the heat and humidity get to them. It's all about safety, not speed. Just remember that.

Exactly, they shouldn't work in extreme cold or heat conditions, that would just be inhumane. This whole week is gonna be horribly hot, so I guess we won't see much progress this week, and that's fine with me since we should put the health and safety of the workers over our wish to see the building go up ASAP.

^^ + 1000000

very well said Patrick. bravo

Exactly, they shouldn't work in extreme cold or heat conditions, that would just be inhumane. This whole week is gonna be horribly hot, so I guess we won't see much progress this week, and that's fine with me since we should put the health and safety of the workers over our wish to see the building go up ASAP.

And this is in the North-Eastern NY. Imagine how it must be in Phoenix. Man, that makes me want to live in that city so badly (in Phoenix, not in NY) :drool:

And this is in the North-Eastern NY. Imagine how it must be in Phoenix. Man, that makes me want to live in that city so badly (in Phoenix, not in NY) :drool:

I've been to phoenix twice for an internship trip, and the heat is insane. It was 112 farenheit one day and I went swimming in a gorge. It was like a godsent. It was a great place, unless you don't have a good appreciation and toleration for the insane aridity.

I've been to phoenix twice for an internship trip, and the heat is insane. It was 112 farenheit one day and I went swimming in a gorge. It was like a godsent. It was a great place, unless you don't have a good appreciation and toleration for the insane aridity.

Well, then it's a perfect place for me cause I freeze in everything below 20 degrees Celsius.

Well, then it's a perfect place for me cause I freeze in everything below 20 degrees Celsius.

I like the heat, I can't complain either unless I'm in a suit and loafers. That's the beauty of summer here in ny, 99.9% of folk here prefer pool parties and bbqs over shoveling driveways. I'll probably find myself moving south in a year or so as well.

I thought a supertall was 300m not 1000ft

I never seen a building under a 1000 feet, listed as a supertall.

I never seen a building under a 1000 feet, listed as a supertall.

there's a few that are on the dot 300m, or just above that are like 980+ feet.

Researching and digging...

An animation (http://www.thyssenkrupp.com/en/mediaplayerplus/380/) released by ThyssenKrupp, the supplier of the materials for the stainless steel corners of the tower, as well as the designer of the 71 elevators.

where will you be???



Dog Day afternoon!!! 93 degrees baking the Big Apple!! :ohno:

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I will be in Dublin cause I livee here but I might be able to be there cause I can get my family in NYC to put me up for a few days and hopefully it could be then.

Wow it sounds very hot in NYC.
Too bad it is raining here in Ireland as always.
Good day in the park would be nice or on the beach.

When I look at my laptop screen, it is all sunny and hot.
When I look out the window, the sun is shining not.

1 more rise and 1WTC equals height of American int. thus becoming tallest in lower manhattan
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diagram update
i put in american int bldg for comparison as the 1wtc will recapture tallest title again in lower manhattan next week?
http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/7411/wtcjuly19.jpg

1 wtc is so close to hitting 1000 feet i can taste it.

1 wtc is so close to hitting 1000 feet i can taste it.

What does 1000 feet taste like?;););)

Go back a month or so there use to be a hole there. Its to get equipment into the mechanical floors.

ok that kinda makes sense. So now that it's screened over they will probably place that element soon.

Exactly, they shouldn't work in extreme cold or heat conditions, that would just be inhumane. This whole week is gonna be horribly hot, so I guess we won't see much progress this week, and that's fine with me since we should put the health and safety of the workers over our wish to see the building go up ASAP.

Ah, maybe this way of thinking is why the country is broke and going down the drain. No work ethic.

It wasn't even that hot out today. Plus it is cooler for them because they are way up in the air, get stronger breazes and are by the water.

Truthfully, this is sort of an example of why things aren't going so well. In the 30s with much more primitive technology the ESB went up in 18 months. Now with better technology and equipment we take forever to do things.

Anyways, hopefully they'll get back to work soon

Ah, maybe this way of thinking is why the country is broke and going down the drain. No work ethic.

It wasn't even that hot out today. Plus it is cooler for them because they are way up in the air, get stronger breazes and are by the water.

Truthfully, this is sort of an example of why things aren't going so well. In the 30s with much more primitive technology the ESB went up in 18 months. Now with better technology and equipment we take forever to do things.

Anyways, hopefully they'll get back to work soon

That's the most ignorant thing I've read all day. But a discussion of why that is so moronic would take this thread offtopic, so I'll refrain.

[QUOTE=Davidsam52]What does 1000 feet taste like?;);) tastes real good.:lol:

What does 1000 feet taste like?;););)

Blood, sweat and fear.

Blood, sweat and fear. that to kingsc.

What does 1000 feet taste like?;););)

Tastes like a big mac, medium shake, and fries

it has 4 floors/17m/55ft to go to 300m or 984ft.=supertall
lev80 is approx 300m.
lev81 is approx 305m/1000ft
diagram update
i put in american int bldg for comparison as the 1wtc will recapture tallest title again in lower manhattan next week?
http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/7411/wtcjuly19.jpg

[QUOTE=Davidsam52]What does 1000 feet taste like?;);) tastes real good.:lol:

LOL:cheers::cheers::cheers::cheers::cheers::cheers::cheers::cheers::cheers::cheers::cheers::cheers::cheers::cheers::cheers::cheers::cheers::cheers:

i think this is a Supertall.....this is more than 10 feet!!!!!


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Not yet it's still has a little ways to go. When he said ten feet he was talking about tower 4. At less I think he was.

Lets be accurate!

The tower will be exactly 1,000' 0" high when the structure reaches the 81st floor (not counting the 4' column splice).

If you wanna go metric, it'll surpass the 300m mark at the 80th floor (990' 8" / ~301.9m) counting the splices.

So, Cul was right ;)

*All measurements start from the finished lobby floor; El. 311' 2"

It will be a supertall in a blink of an eye, summer always flies by for me anyway. But 4 floors= approximately 1 month soo. I'm getting ready to party.

Ah, maybe this way of thinking is why the country is broke and going down the drain. No work ethic.

It wasn't even that hot out today. Plus it is cooler for them because they are way up in the air, get stronger breazes and are by the water.

Truthfully, this is sort of an example of why things aren't going so well. In the 30s with much more primitive technology the ESB went up in 18 months. Now with better technology and equipment we take forever to do things.

Anyways, hopefully they'll get back to work soon

I'm not so sure you can say this country has no work ethic.

Ah, maybe this way of thinking is why the country is broke and going down the drain. No work ethic.

It wasn't even that hot out today. Plus it is cooler for them because they are way up in the air, get stronger breazes and are by the water.

Truthfully, this is sort of an example of why things aren't going so well. In the 30s with much more primitive technology the ESB went up in 18 months. Now with better technology and equipment we take forever to do things.

Anyways, hopefully they'll get back to work soon

The ESB is as equivalent to this building as a 1930 Ford is to a 2011 Ford. Just as modern cars, newer buildings are "denser" and have many more parts. In fact, I bet this building couldn't be built using 1930's technology.

Anyone know how tall the cranes are? And when will the tops of the cranes be about the roof height?

Were not there..... 337m?

1WTC will be the talles bulding in the USA for a long Time i think.
Except the Chicago Spire project has a come-back :)

Hey Culwulla, thanks for the diagram :cheers: For me it already is the tallest in Lower Manhattan since I accept roof height as the main measurement. That's why it won't be the tallest in America, but only the second tallest.

...so stop off-topic now :)

I have question to new york residents:

do most of you still prefer the old twin towers or did you 'get used' to the new single freedom tower?

i mean, now if you see how it rises, don't you think that this is coequal together with the other towers?

for me, the new wtc is awsome, especially tower 1 + 2, together they give an awsome picture in the skyline..

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Don't go offtopic in here, it's a waste of time! We'll delete it anyway. And ban people if necessary.

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The Goldman sachs building looks great, can't wait to see how well it compliments the finished wtc in a few years.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/business/gsa_haircut_at_wtc_yBKFAbMqgRYq09wNef0BiM

A GSA haircut at 1 WTC
Last Updated: 11:58 PM, July 18, 2011
Posted: 11:53 PM, July 18, 2011

The Port Authority and the federal General Services Administration are negotiating for "much less" space at 1 World Trade Center than the GSA originally intended to lease, Realty Check has learned.

The US agency and the PA announced a prospective deal for 600,000 square feet four years ago, when 1 WTC was still called the Freedom Tower and government officials were desperate to get the long-stalled project off the ground.

Now, sources said, the GSA will likely end up with as little as half the original commitment. That comes on the heels of our story earlier this year that a second prospective government lease, for the state Office of General Services, is all but dead.

The prospective GSA shrinkage and OGS withdrawal will leave the PA with a whopping 900,000 square feet more in the 2.6 million square-foot tower to offer higher-paying private-sector tenants.

The GSA agreement with the PA was less than binding. Since then, everything has changed: Condé Nast pre-leased 1 million square feet at 1 WTC, and the Durst Organization signed on as the PA's minority partner.

Cushman & Wakefield's Tara Stacom has been walking more prospective tenants through the fast-rising tower. She would not comment on the GSA. But she said, "We're very confident about our ability to lease this building based on what we have on the table, and to continue to diversify the tenant mix downtown."

With a widespread perception that 1 WTC is hot, the last thing the PA or Durst wants is for the "iconic" tower to be full of government tenants paying below-market rents. The original, highly subsidized terms called for the GSA to pay a net-effective rent in the low $40s per square foot, compared with the $60s a foot starting rent Condé will pay.

The PA declined to comment. Renee Miscione, a spokesperson in the GSA's New York office, said, "We're in discussions with the Port Authority about this matter, so we are not going to confirm or comment."

The PA is mum about who's looked at 1 WTC, as is Larry Silverstein about his 4 WTC. But we've learned of three law firms that have kicked tires at either or both -- Milbank Tweed (which is also said to be considering the World Financial Center), Morgan Lewis and Chadbourne & Parke.

The first picture looks like a frozen movie trailer.

Wow, that glass is gorgeous.

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it starts to dominate the skyline. Since 4WTC will be will be comparable to this height, this pic also shows the 4WTC will be very visible when completed. :)

Again: We'll delete the offtopic stuff. So stop your efforts, it's a waste of time. For us all.

Re-reading the last 5 pages has left me confused to the actual height we are now at...

The last jump I can see brought us to 910' feet... I can see no new steel added since that jump yet Culwulla's diagram indicates we are above 928' feet. when did that jump take place? As far as all the updates in this thread and everyone had said, we were still on floors 73-74 and at 910'... Then now with no new steel since then, we are suddenly 26'4" taller?

I like to update the Lower Manhattan checklist when we have surpassed a building, but now I am not sure where we really are anymore.

:dunno:

^ You really pay attention to the progress, don't you? Thanks for noticing that, yes, they're still 910' 8"... But seing Carlos' photos, it seems there's one core column 3 floors high... if that's right, then they are 910' 8" + 13' 4" = 924' above street level. ;)