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Riyadhi December 23rd, 2006, 11:41 AM Al-Shamiya
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A New Horizon for the Holy Sanctuary of Mecca
“Al-Shamiya” project is considered one of Al-Oula most ambitious projects, through which the Company seeks to provide the highest international specifications in consistency with the significance of the location falling within the holy sanctuary of Mecca to the north of the Haram Mosque. The project gives an ambitious and practical vision to the north of the Haram Mosque.
• Location & Area:
Al-Shamiya project is located within a series of developmental projects launched by the Government with a view to developing and rehabilitating the region surrounding the holy sanctuary of Mecca to meet the needs of its visitors. This project covers an area of one million five hundred thousands square meters approximately, extending from the extremities of the sanctuary to beyond the second circular road to the north and from the Holy Mosque Street to the east and Jabal al Qaaba road to the west.
The plan includes Al-Shamiya, Garoul, Alqarara wa Alnqa. The area to be developed reached three million square meters distributed among different activities, of which hotels, hotel residences, commercial centers, and markets, general services, in addition to permanent residences for the people of the region and the relevant services. The project can accommodate about two hundred fifty thousands people and about four hundred thousand prayers.
• Services & Utilities
Al-Shamiya plan phases include the main pedestrian axes, the hotel course, which includes three levels separated by a wide street, surrounded by a group of hotels aligned in graduation and overlooking the sanctuary.
These groups of hotels are distinguished for being near the Haram square and overlooking it. Al-Qalaa residential project, which is a group of buildings at the top of Hindi Mountain intended for hotel residency and permanent housing, was developed in conformity with the urban rhythm.
The northern portal of the project, which is a principal landmark in the project, is composed of a distinguished tower located in the middle of a huge area surrounded by a group of medium buildings intended for commercial activities and shopping at the bottom of the square, cutting the portal station, and composed of five floors containing bus stations, car parking with a capacity for about 10500 cars and bus.
• Project’s Objectives
The project ‘s objectives lie in the development of an urban environment consistent with the position of the holy sanctuary of Mecca, the integration with the structural plan to develop the central region of Mecca, and the restructuring of the road network with a view of expanding the squares of the holy sanctuary to accommodate as many prayers as possible.
It also aims at providing public safety to the residents and visitors, reducing the pressure of urban development in the region located on the borders of the holy sanctuary directly, in addition to linking the internal regions of Al-Shamiya with the interests of the urban development, and distributing the real estate value of the development process.
• Development Phases:
Given the great deal of privacy of Al-Shamiya, Al-Oula raised its interaction rhythm since it became the principal owner of Al-Shamiya Company, and it elaborated the necessary studies to start the phases of the development. The development will necessitate a period of ten years at a total cost of 40 billion riyals, and it is undertaken through phases starting with developing the infrastructure and providing the location with all the services, thus escorting the most modern regions in the world.
The period of the first phase that is due to start soon is expected to last about three years. The project, which Al-Oula Company puts on its top of its future ambitious projects, was developed in coordination with the Higher Commission for the Development of Mecca and by following the planning and details directives and requirements established by the Commission, to keep the balance between the public and private interests.
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Saudi Dunes December 23rd, 2006, 12:41 PM Very Nice. I really hope that this project is realized. For some reason many projects in Saudi Arabia are proposed, garner a lot of interest and then just fade out or take about two years for the vision to be realized and construction to comence. I hope this is not the case with this one, and that it is developed soon. Looking forward to seeing construction photos of it!
Riyadhi December 23rd, 2006, 01:08 PM completely agree. This project in particular has been on the table for about two years now. The good news is that they are still talking about it so it has not faded out.
huit December 23rd, 2006, 05:55 PM looks great!
Saudi guy December 23rd, 2006, 11:56 PM OH MY GOD OH GOOOOD WHAT IS THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:eek2: iseen it but i didnt think its like these BIG new city
wiki December 23rd, 2006, 11:59 PM rare design
Riyadhi December 25th, 2006, 05:44 AM What many don't know is that Emaar is a partner in this project.
It will be revealed in the coming real estate exhibit in jeddah.
Saudi guy December 25th, 2006, 11:45 PM do you know Riyadhi when real estate exhibit in jeddah will open?
Mr Grosso December 26th, 2006, 04:01 AM Amazing very nice !
Riyadhi December 26th, 2006, 05:15 AM I think Febuary 4, 2007
guy_in_dubai January 4th, 2007, 02:16 PM does this mean theyre gonna knock down the makkah sofitel? i love that hotel! stayed there during hajj and many other times on previous visits..
amht January 4th, 2007, 06:20 PM Great, Big Projects started rolling
Thanks For The Info
Very Nice. I really hope that this project is realized. For some reason many projects in Saudi Arabia are proposed, garner a lot of interest and then just fade out or take about two years for the vision to be realized and construction to comence. I hope this is not the case with this one, and that it is developed soon. Looking forward to seeing construction photos of it!
Things are changing now
Now they are in a race to get there first, it is not like before they talk about it for a propoganda purpose, it is now : do it or someone else will
Saudi guy January 5th, 2007, 12:56 AM yah you are right amht, gulf countries now racing to get more investor.
YeMeNi_guy January 7th, 2007, 09:54 PM this project is great!
Saudi guy February 28th, 2007, 08:10 PM 24 Feb 2007
there no related betwen Shamya & Emaar,the tower constrition will start after 7 years & shamya project will done after 25 years:nuts: that what urban planning engineer sed.
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Mr Grosso March 1st, 2007, 12:28 AM Very nice but i feel there is something wrong ! they can do it better !
thank you brother Saudi
yusef March 1st, 2007, 02:03 AM Construction begins in 7 years? That seems too late.
Unlimited March 1st, 2007, 03:54 AM Ohhh my God, it is Very bad project. This is completely in the wrong ways to develop Mecca
gohorns March 1st, 2007, 04:47 AM Ohhh my God, it is Very bad project. This is completely in the wrong ways to develop Mecca
umm...why?
guy_in_dubai March 1st, 2007, 06:19 PM why is construction starting so late?
*UofT* March 1st, 2007, 11:10 PM umm...why?
Where do they exactly plan to expand Haram Sharif if there are highrises surrounding the grand mosque?
There should be two cities in Makkah, one for residential purposes to serve the locals and another should be to serve the Muslims for their Hajj and Ummrah needs.
Personally I think the area around the Grand mosque should be flattened and used to expand the Haram sharif to even larger proportions.
Every year there are already 3 million people doing Hajj in Makkah, and with Muslim populations booming in the West I expect more and more people able and have the resources to do Hajj. Expect that figure of 3 million to double in the next 25 years, so how are you going to serve 6 million people?
By the way the doubling of Hajji's is not my stat I believe its a stat that was revealed by the Gov of Saudi Arabia not too long ago.
smussuw March 1st, 2007, 11:22 PM What many don't know is that Emaar is a partner in this project.
It will be revealed in the coming real estate exhibit in jeddah.
I think they should make a new master plan for the whole of Makkah. They should include a metro, better infrastructure, highways, etc.
HiJazzey March 2nd, 2007, 01:31 AM While you're at it, let's kick out all the locals from Mecca and Medina.
3ajbi
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gohorns March 2nd, 2007, 05:50 AM Where do they exactly plan to expand Haram Sharif if there are highrises surrounding the grand mosque?
There should be two cities in Makkah, one for residential purposes to serve the locals and another should be to serve the Muslims for their Hajj and Ummrah needs.
Personally I think the area around the Grand mosque should be flattened and used to expand the Haram sharif to even larger proportions.
Every year there are already 3 million people doing Hajj in Makkah, and with Muslim populations booming in the West I expect more and more people able and have the resources to do Hajj. Expect that figure of 3 million to double in the next 25 years, so how are you going to serve 6 million people?
By the way the doubling of Hajji's is not my stat I believe its a stat that was revealed by the Gov of Saudi Arabia not too long ago.
So what you're saying is, instead of coming up with some sort of a solution, like capping the number of pilgrims at a certain point, the area of the Haram should be infinitely expanded as muslim populations continue to grow around the world? That is not feasible even if it is what we would all like.
The current situation may not be the best solution but in my mind it works. Sure, the area around the Haram is being built up but most of the structures are also adding areas for worship. If I remember correctly the Abraj Al-Bait towers are going to have prayer areas for thousands. If that trend continues and private (although those particular towers aren't private) investors build towers with prayer areas for large numbers then it kind of takes the burden off the government to constantly expand and maintain the area of the Haram.
The idea of two cities may be considered at some point but not anytime soon.
smussuw March 2nd, 2007, 08:18 AM ^^ Haj is a right for every muslim so I don't think anyone has the right to limit the number of pilgrims. I think the rate is 1 for every 100,000 muslim.
Saudi guy March 2nd, 2007, 03:28 PM Personally I think the area around the Grand mosque should be flattened and used to expand the Haram sharif to even larger proportions.
*UofT* i ask them about that they sed the goverment not allowed them to remove the mountins and make it flat!!!
Construction begins in 7 years? That seems too late.
during that time they will remove all that old building and top mountins.
Khanrak March 3rd, 2007, 08:12 AM Makkah is one of the few cities in the world (and probably the only one in the middle east) that needs huge projects like these.
Hassoun March 5th, 2007, 05:17 AM :Eek:
LOVE IT :) Way to go MECCAAAAAAA
it looks like Abdali project in Amman,but this one is waaaaaaaaaay Bigger and Nicer :) ;)
Hosain85 March 5th, 2007, 07:40 AM ^^ Haj is a right for every muslim so I don't think anyone has the right to limit the number of pilgrims. I think the rate is 1 for every 100,000 muslim.
yes, it is a right for every Muslim. but imagine if there was no regulation on the maximum number of pilgrims. maybe 30-40 million people would be coming for each hajj. that would have terrible consequences: massive stampedes, disease epidemics, overcrowding, and even water shortages. it would change the hajj from a blessing to a curse.
*UofT* March 5th, 2007, 07:47 AM yes, it is a right for every Muslim. but imagine if there was no regulation on the maximum number of pilgrims. maybe 30-40 million people would be coming for each hajj. that would have terrible consequences: massive stampedes, disease epidemics, overcrowding, and even water shortages. it would change the hajj from a blessing to a curse.
500 years ago people would of been saying the same things your saying about 2-3 million pilgrims that frequent Makkah each year.
Hosain85 March 5th, 2007, 07:56 AM ^^ you missed my point bro
all I'm saying is this....
the only reason Mecca can accomodate 2-3 million people today has been because of strategic development and competent regulation. without those two things hajj would be disastrous. besides, the Prophet (saw) said that the blood of a muslim is more valuable than the whole kabaa. so doesn't it make sense to regulate the hajj so it's safe? otherwise 50 million people would rush in tomorrow for hajj. the water system would be consumed so quickly, do you have any idea how many Muslims would die from that? the key issue is that the city should be expanded and modernized in order to keep up with the growing population of muslims and then gradually more and more people can come in...we need responsible development
*UofT* March 5th, 2007, 08:30 AM ^^ you missed my point bro
all I'm saying is this....
the only reason Mecca can accomodate 2-3 million people today has been because of strategic development and competent regulation. without those two things hajj would be disastrous. besides, the Prophet (saw) said that the blood of a muslim is more valuable than the whole kabaa. so doesn't it make sense to regulate the hajj so it's safe? otherwise 50 million people would rush in tomorrow for hajj. the water system would be consumed so quickly, do you have any idea how many Muslims would die from that? the key issue is that the city should be expanded and modernized in order to keep up with the growing population of muslims and then gradually more and more people can come in...we need responsible development
Yes for sure, but we need to make it more accomodating for a larger proportion of muslims. Population does tend to grow exponentially so that's why we should be prepared.
Saudi guy March 5th, 2007, 02:58 PM i agree with Hosain85 point,but with all that around al haram projects it never enough space to accommodate 5 millions Muslims.
Kuwaiti March 5th, 2007, 04:20 PM I hate the idea. Disgusting.
The holy mosque of the ka'aba should be the tallest structure in Mecca. The towers are blocking its view.
And itll prevent expansion, like someone already said.
and if people gave it some thought, mecca is prone to earthquakes and large towers wont do any help.
i also hate the fact they demolish the prophet's house and make it a parking lot.
Saudi guy March 5th, 2007, 05:16 PM what wrong with towers Kuwaiti? its not prohibted in islam to build tower in macca,that realy thing i hate its too close to al haram,it remaind me like old randomly houses but with nice design!!!
Halawala March 5th, 2007, 06:24 PM The Haram is not visible or hardly visible from far even without these buildings. Makkah and the Holy Mosque is in a valley and surrounded by hills at all sides.Therefore, it is not very visible unless you get within a close distance to the mosque or from on top the hill. Where do you expect the millions of pilgrams to stay each year if the Saudis do not cater for the growing exponential growth and the influx of Muslims flocking to the Holy City each year?
Also, look at all the buildings that collapse and burn each year resulting in the deaths of hundreds of Muslims becasue of old houses which long outlive their usefullness. At least these new buildings are designed to replace some of the old houses and buildings.
Saudi guy March 5th, 2007, 06:50 PM ^^ i agree with you too:D
gohorns March 5th, 2007, 07:43 PM So basically this is what you guys want:
No caps on the number of pilgrims ever...
No tall buildings in Makkah...
I know...let's make the entire western region of saudi arabia 1 story buildings or tents and we'll fit everyone that wants to come..and when that's not enough, we can make the whole of saudi arabia one-story buildings so nothing in hundreds of miles will be taller than the Kaaba....let's even get rid of all the borders....after all...no one has the right to regulate the flow of pilgrims...even if it is for the good of everyone...
hmm...but building low-rises will mean people will be really far from the mosque...how do we get them closer to Makkah? I know...how about we give them camels? ah..perfect...that way there will be no noise near Makkah louder than the voices of pilgrims or the call to prayer..no car noises...no horns...and of course....we can't let cars pollute Makkah....so camels it is....
how else would you like to take us back to the stone age and make pilgrimage more difficult? i'm open to all ideas...
and while you guys are at it...please figure out a way for me to carry all my groceries in one bag and have that bag not be heavy.
Mr Grosso March 5th, 2007, 09:07 PM ^^ you missed my point bro
all I'm saying is this....
the only reason Mecca can accomodate 2-3 million people today has been because of strategic development and competent regulation. without those two things hajj would be disastrous. besides, the Prophet (saw) said that the blood of a muslim is more valuable than the whole kabaa. so doesn't it make sense to regulate the hajj so it's safe? otherwise 50 million people would rush in tomorrow for hajj. the water system would be consumed so quickly, do you have any idea how many Muslims would die from that? the key issue is that the city should be expanded and modernized in order to keep up with the growing population of muslims and then gradually more and more people can come in...we need responsible development
:applause:
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Mr Grosso March 5th, 2007, 09:12 PM The Haram is not visible or hardly visible from far even without these buildings. Makkah and the Holy Mosque is in a valley and surrounded by hills at all sides.Therefore, it is not very visible unless you get within a close distance to the mosque or from on top the hill. Where do you expect the millions of pilgrams to stay each year if the Saudis do not cater for the growing exponential growth and the influx of Muslims flocking to the Holy City each year?
Also, look at all the buildings that collapse and burn each year resulting in the deaths of hundreds of Muslims becasue of old houses which long outlive their usefullness. At least these new buildings are designed to replace some of the old houses and buildings.
:okay: :okay:
Kuwaiti March 6th, 2007, 02:45 AM what wrong with towers Kuwaiti? its not prohibted in islam to build tower in macca,that realy thing i hate its too close to al haram,it remaind me like old randomly houses but with nice design!!!
well alright maybe you have a point. i just hate the fact they look so dense like hong kong.
Saudi guy May 22nd, 2007, 05:11 AM new video from al aqaria tv for two silly plots but you can see all huge projects around al haram!!! here we go:D
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Saudi Dunes May 22nd, 2007, 06:52 AM Guys...I really don't mean to sound rude or anything, but Mecca really doesn't look organized, does the city have any zoning ordinances? It seems everything is just thrown together, it really doesn't look like other cities in Saudi, at least the ones I've seen!
Saudi guy September 14th, 2007, 09:08 PM http://www.creatormodels.com/images/citySection_2.JPG
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RealVooDoo September 15th, 2007, 12:05 PM Nice pics (Even if 3 years old :bash: )
The model is awesome, how big is it?
Which scale?
Saudi guy September 15th, 2007, 12:32 PM Scale 1:75-Model Size More then 22meters in length 2004.11
looks the goverment want to make people walking i like it lool no more noisy cars.
RealVooDoo September 15th, 2007, 01:02 PM ^^
I thought it was something like that: it's huge and has lot of details (even the shops signs :D ) never seen something like that before, really like it :cheers:
Saudi guy October 6th, 2007, 03:36 AM the current al shamiya not bad as i seen in drb al khlel :P
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XP December 17th, 2007, 08:11 AM I bet you haven't seen these before, for I haven't...
The final Master Plan
http://aycu26.webshots.com/image/37305/2005485243545224288_rs.jpg
New Renders
http://aycu04.webshots.com/image/35603/2005447113438874018_rs.jpg
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Saudi guy December 17th, 2007, 01:26 PM how can you DxBconomist find all that stuff so easlly?big thanks to ya:)
Riyadhi December 17th, 2007, 05:50 PM Thanks DxBconomist..
More info,
http://www.aloula.com/content/al-shamiya-en.html
http://www.aloula.com/gallery/al-shamiya?project=98
And I still do not trust Al-Oula... I just think they are full of s**t!!
Rody69 December 17th, 2007, 08:53 PM and from me:
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http://www.uploadgeek.com/uploads456/0/Al Shamiya Dev.JPG (http://www.uploadgeek.com)
Saudi guy December 18th, 2007, 12:22 AM thanks brothers:)
yek al Oula,how can i forgot it's involved!:bash:
KAL76 December 19th, 2007, 12:00 PM Oh come on guys !!!
give Al Oula a break.
they are doing their best to come up with the fanciest renderings and models ever :banana:
you guys are so judgmental:ohno:
Arabia December 23rd, 2007, 10:41 AM So, when they will start this project?!
XP December 24th, 2007, 06:29 AM So, when they will start this project?!
Up to my knowledge, demoltion won't begin until end of 2008, only for the Haram Expansion Project only. Massive construction will take place only when the early Jabal Omar units are done.
BTW, Rody, these renders are an early stage of the masterplan. I've seen four or maybe 5 different masterplans for this project.
XP December 24th, 2007, 06:31 AM how can you DxBconomist find all that stuff so easlly?big thanks to ya:)
Thanks to you guys and to SSC, it is an opportunity to share "what you can".
Some times you "can't"..:lol:
Rody69 December 24th, 2007, 09:18 AM ^^^^ I know they're coming out with a new master plan between now and then..
btw this render is in HOK projects of 2007/08 witch includes 180 projects and from those:
1-king Abdullah University's (KAUST) master plan.
2-A huge park or what they called (walking network) in Thwal.
3-kingdom holding Project in Jeddah.
4-Resort Area in King Abdullah Economic city (KAEC).
5-Alshamiyya project in Makkah.
6-jedah new city center master paln.
it's all on PDF file from HOK and I got it,but for some reasons is damaged!!
anyway I have some copies for those projects from that HOK projects booklet I'll try to post them later.
Riyadhi December 24th, 2007, 10:36 AM ^^ you should ask them for another copy of the pdf file and forward it to us :poke:
XP January 9th, 2008, 11:53 AM I've learned that they change the name into "North Haram Project"
any idea?
Saudi guy June 10th, 2008, 01:17 AM a new official website for shamiya is finally launched,but i think the informations is an previews proposed but its deserve to takes a quick tour on it,don't forget to watch videos :D
Shamiyah Official Website (http://www.alshamiyah.com.sa/nhp.php)
here the showroom in makkah!
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XP June 10th, 2008, 08:07 AM ^^
Come on Saudi Guy, it is not new any more. Their website is online since last December.
But, yes, I see that it has been never submitted here before. Big thanks.
mamss June 10th, 2008, 05:05 PM it seems from the video that the video was made a while ago as it does not show haram expansion?
or is it correct and there is no expansion but just an extension of courtyard?
Saudi guy June 10th, 2008, 09:02 PM sorry i don't know it's launched long time ago!
mamss the whole website talking about previews Proposal,what a waste of time and money they need now to create new plan,model and advertisement,as i remember the current model cost them ~23 millions SR,the most expensive model i ever heard!
XP June 11th, 2008, 08:35 AM sorry i don't know it's launched long time ago!
Don't be.
It was my fault that I didn't post the website at the time. :cheers:
Saudi guy July 10th, 2008, 03:41 PM OH MY GOOOOOOD:eek2::eek2::eek2:
i count it ~100 towers in diffrent shape and hights! the best design for shamiya so far!
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/2025/26520140171d511acb26o1zz5.jpg
smussuw July 10th, 2008, 05:01 PM ^^ is this for real?
Saudi guy July 10th, 2008, 06:31 PM ^^i think it's leaked picture!
compare it to one of the previous models
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n118/Saudi-Guy/Shamya/P1020769-1.jpg
*UofT* July 10th, 2008, 07:12 PM ^^ is this for real?
I hope so, i really do.
DreaM1981 July 11th, 2008, 01:01 PM OH MY GOOOOOOD:eek2::eek2::eek2:
i count it ~100 towers in diffrent shape and hights! the best design for shamiya so far!
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/2025/26520140171d511acb26o1zz5.jpg
This design is awesome. I hope they go for this one. From where you got it SG?
I checked the official site but there is no such picture there and the design is very bad not good as this one also I do not see any expansion of the holy mosque its self. Is it possible? they cancelled it ? I do not think so
Any info guys?
mamss July 11th, 2008, 03:33 PM [QUOTE=Saudi guy;22455874]^^i think it's leaked picture!
where did u get it from?
seems it leaked to you.........
HiJazzey July 11th, 2008, 04:43 PM Absolutely horrible. Please stop this lunacy :(
Saudi guy July 11th, 2008, 05:08 PM i found the render here (http://www.flickr.com/photos/8729502@N08/2652014017/)
mamss July 11th, 2008, 08:40 PM i found the render here (http://www.flickr.com/photos/8729502@N08/2652014017/)
thanks sg
i was not questioning your integrity at all. was just asking out of curiousity.
thanks for your regular updates
leetroy July 12th, 2008, 04:47 AM i think there going to bulid this 1
CoolSaudi July 12th, 2008, 08:32 AM I have seen this new model in Okaz newspaper 2 days ago..
Shahid July 13th, 2008, 06:39 PM How can you like these towers? I don't understand.
Saudi guy July 13th, 2008, 07:56 PM ^^we are skyfan :D
Shahid July 14th, 2008, 12:35 AM ^^we are skyfan :D
:)
But does this towers remind you of dominoes? Look at the towers positions took place lol.
http://dotsunderconsonants.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/makkah-expansion-2.jpg
Saudi guy July 14th, 2008, 01:28 AM for now these is the best plan we ever see for shamiya but if they decide to make another one it's fine.
mamss July 14th, 2008, 05:39 AM Off-topic:
to view Haram live click on:
http://live.gph.gov.sa/
idealclass July 14th, 2008, 11:05 AM This reminds me of Gotham city really..
smussuw July 14th, 2008, 12:31 PM for now these is the best plan we ever see for shamiya but if they decide to make another one it's fine.It isn't like they care about what u think :tongue2:
kasy boy July 16th, 2008, 03:55 AM WOW
architecturelab August 10th, 2008, 07:46 AM OH MY GOOOOOOD:eek2::eek2::eek2:
i count it ~100 towers in diffrent shape and hights! the best design for shamiya so far!
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/2025/26520140171d511acb26o1zz5.jpg
well i was stunned when i first saw this pic this is so outrageous and sick.
the project which is totally out of scale first..
but let me not dwell on this, this project design or sort of was stolen from ateliers lion, if you check jabal omar's design proposal you will know what i am talking about. '
but come to the fact, they didnt understand a thing about the JO concept and they just took some of the ideas and put them randomly here.
anyhow i will be posting photos of JO master plan as well as renderings to show you guys..
Saudi guy August 10th, 2008, 01:51 PM ^^we are waiting!
architecturelab August 10th, 2008, 10:04 PM ^^we are waiting!
well you can find first glimpse here: http://www.urbanisme.equipement.gouv.fr/IMG/pdf/Nomine_-_Yves_LION_-_Dossier_-_1_cle76312d.pdf
you can also check jabal khandama project since it was also designed by ateliers lion.
architecturelab August 10th, 2008, 10:38 PM http://www.architecturelab.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/video-flash/High_resolution_Isometry%20.jpg
this is first design of ateliers lion for jabal omar
RANA AAA August 11th, 2008, 05:00 PM is it really gonna hapeen look much much hugeeee...
Pwincess August 21st, 2010, 11:11 PM is this U|C ? If it is plz change it to U|C :)
Rody69 August 22nd, 2010, 03:42 AM http://www.architecturelab.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/video-flash/High_resolution_Isometry%20.jpg
this is first design of ateliers lion for jabal omar
this is supposed to be in here:
MECCA l U/C l Jabal Omar Project (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=300295)
ibib August 22nd, 2010, 05:18 PM These are taken from the area of alshamia last May, probably all destroyed by now.
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ibib August 22nd, 2010, 05:28 PM Back to compare game :nuts:
2007
http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/4158/capturekc.jpg
2009
http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/9696/capture1y.jpg
Feb,2010
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Saudi guy October 14th, 2010, 12:42 AM guys i just noticed there several demolition in every direction could that mean they have started? compere it with 2009 updates checkout
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Alrayyan August 21st, 2011, 04:02 AM Bump :D Any news !
Rody69 August 22nd, 2011, 05:04 PM ^^ the whole project design was changed,it became a part of king Abdullah project to re-build Makkah...
yesterday...
أكد قبول بعض شركات القطاع الخاص للعمل فيه.. خالد الفيصل:
مشروع الملك عبد الله لإعمار مكة يخدم مليار مسلم وينجز خلال 4 سنوات
http://www.aleqt.com/a/572043_175335.jpg
http://www.aleqt.com/a/572043_175336.jpg
مجسم مشروع الشامية.
الأمير خالد الفيصل يشرح للإعلاميين ورجال الأعمال عن مشاريع تطوير مكة. تصوير: غازي مهدي -«الاقتصادية»
عبدالهادي حبتور من جدة
كشف لـ "الاقتصادية" الأمير خالد الفيصل بن عبد العزيز أمير منطقة مكة المكرمة عن قبول بعض مشاريع بعض شركات القطاع الخاص لتنفيذ أعمال في مشروع الملك عبد الله بن عبد العزيز لإعمار مكة الذي يشمل تطوير الأحياء العشوائية، مخطط إدارة التنمية الحضرية، ومعالجة أوضاع ازدحام الحركة المرورية والمشاة في مكة المكرمة والمشاعر المقدسة.
وأوضح الأمير خالد أن مشروع الملك عبد الله العملاق الذي انطلق البارحة لإعمار مكة المكرمة سينفذ خلال أربع سنوات رغم أن الخطة الموضوعة له ست سنوات من الآن، مشدداً على عدم التفريط في الجودة والأداء في سبيل سرعة التنفيذ.
فيما بيّن أمير مكة أن دراسة المطاف لا تزال مجرد فكرة وسوف تتم دراستها والرفع بها للمقام السامي خلال ستة أشهر للاطلاع عليها واتخاذ اللازم.
وأكد الأمير خالد خلال مؤتمر صحافي عقد مساء البارحة الأولى في مقر شركة الشامية بجدة، أن هذا المشروع الضخم الذي وافق الملك عبد الله على تنفيذه سيضع العاصمة المقدسة في مكانها الطبيعي كرمز للدين الإسلامي العظيم بحضارته العبقرية، ونواة تدور حولها أجساد وقلوب أكثر من مليار مسلم في شتى أصقاع الأرض، وترنو إليها أعينهم وتهفو نفوسهم.
وبين أن هيئة تطوير مكة بدأت العمل على دراسات المشروع بعد أن وجهها خادم الحرمين الشريفين بدراسة الحركة المرورية وحركة المشاة، وإيجاد حلول عصرية لتسهيل تنقل المسلمين من وإلى الحرم.
وأوضح أن هيئة تطوير مكة المكرمة والمشاعر المقدسة انطلقت في تنفيذ المشروع من حيث انتهت إليه دراسات ومخططات تطوير سابقة ورسمت آليات التطوير والتنمية من خلال خطط الدولة الاستراتيجية في التنمية الإقليمية، لخلق التوازن التنموي المطلوب بين الحاجة الماسة لضيوف الرحمن للخدمات والمرافق العامة – في ظل ما تشهده من تزايد مطرد في أعداد الحجاج والمعتمرين - وحاجات السكان للتنمية والتطوير.
وأشار الأمير خالد إلى أن هذه الثورة التطويرية الضخمة لمكة المكرمة تنفذ بناء على مرتكزات أساسية تأخذ في الحسبان أنظمة الدولة وخططها الخمسية والمخططات التنموية المعتمدة، سواء على مستوى منطقة مكة المكرمة أو على مستوى العاصمة المقدسة (مدينة مكة والمشاعر المقدسة)، كاشفاً أن أهم هذه المرتكزات أن تكون الكعبة المشرفة هي الأساس والمنطلق للتنمية، الارتقاء بتنمية إنسان المنطقة ليبلغ وصف القوي الأمين ويتحقق على يديه النهوض بمستوى الخدمات ضيوف الرحمن وخصوصا فيما يتعلق بتيسير وتسهيل حركتهم وتنقلاتهم.
مجسم مشروع الشامية.
وقال "من أهم المرتكزات كذلك، أن تكون مكة المكرمة نموذجا مشرفاً وملهما للسعودية والعالم الإسلامي ثم العالم أجمع، إضافة إلى أهمية الأخذ بمفهوم التنمية المستدامة المتوازية والمتوازنة بين الإنسان والمكان من جهة وكل المحافظات والقرى من جهة ثانية، والمشاركة الجادة والفعالة بين القطاعين العام والخاص الذي يجب أن يتعاظم دوره في هذه المرحلة المهمة، إلى جانب مواكبة المرحلة الانتقالية من العالم الثالث إلى العالم الأول التي تمر بها المملكة في عهد خادم الحرمين الشريفين الملك عبد الله بن عبد العزيز، حفظه الله".
وأوضح الأمير خالد أن هنالك إدارة متخصصة للمشروع سوف تعمل بمساعدة ومشاركة جميع الأجهزة المعنية بالحج والعمرة في مكة المكرمة إلى جانب المؤسسات الأهلية من بداية العمل إلى نهايته.
مضيفاً "بدأنا العمل من صباح السبت لوضع خطة عمل، وبعد العيد إن شاء الله سيتم دعوة جميع الأجهزة الحكومية وشرح المشروع لهم والمطلوب من كل جهة والواجب عمله.
ولفت أمير مكة إلى أن إدارة الحشود والتفويج من أساسيات دراسة المشروع، مشيراً إلى أنه سيتم فرض تنظيم معماري جديد لمكة المكرمة، وأن المشروع تتويج لكل الأعمال والمشاريع التي تمت في مكة وفقاً للخطة التنموية.
معالجة الأحياء العشوائية
وأشار إلى أن المشروع يضع حلولا وطرقا لمعالجة الأحياء العشوائية في مكة المكرمة، تتمثل في: التطوير الشامل للأحياء العشوائية بالشراكة بين الدولة والقطاع الخاص، إيجاد سكن بديل يستوعب المنقولين من الأحياء العشوائية، معالجة الأوضاع الاجتماعية لسكان الأحياء العشوائية من خلال الدراسة والتقصي لأوضاعهم الحياتية والاجتماعي.
عماد المهيدب وخالد الفوزان في الحفل.
مخطط للتنمية الحضرية
وأعلن الأمير خالد الفيصل أن المشروع سيتضمن مخططاً لإدارة التنمية الحضرية في مكة المكرمة، استجابة لضرورات التحديث والتطوير الهائل في مجال البنى التحتية والمرافق العامة والخدمات الضرورية، بعد مرور أكثر من خمسة أعوام على إعداد المخطط الهيكلي المحدث الذي أعدته الأمانة العامة لهيئة تطوير مكة المكرمة والمشاعر المقدسة، وبناء على ما جرى إعداده فيما يخص الدراسات العمرانية والمشروعات الخاصة بالطرق والنقل والمرور.
المنطقة المركزية في الدائري الثالث
ولفت أمير مكة إلى أن المخطط يأخذ في الاعتبار جوانب مهمة جداً أبرزها: اعتبار المنطقة المركزية في مكة المكرمة هي المنطقة المحصورة داخل نطاق الطريق الدائري الثالث، إذ من المقترح أن تخضع تلك المنطقة إلى جانب منقطة العزيزية لاشتراطات عمرانية خاصة من حيث الارتفاعات والكثافة السكانية وتوزيع الاستخدامات، التأكيد على فكرة إنشاء تجمعات عمرانية كاملة المرافق والخدمات على مداخل مكة المكرمة، لتخفيف الضغط على الكتلة العمرانية فيها، مع ربط تلك الضواحي بوسائط نقل جماعي متعددة وذات كفاءة عالية تحقق القرب الزمني لتلك التجمعات.
وأضاف "يأخذ المخطط في اعتباره كذلك، تقديم مجموعة من المقترحات في مجال الطرق والنقل، تتمثل في استكمال الطرق الدائرية والإشعاعية والرئيسة التي تخدم منظومة النقل بمكة المكرمة ، واقتراح مسارات لخطوط السكك الحديدية الحضرية والإقليمية، في ظل الحاجة الماسة لتوجيه مشاريع التنمية والتطوير في مكة المكرمة والمشاعر المقدسة وفق مخطط مدروس".
كما تتضمن الاعتبارات التي يأخذها مخطط إدارة التنمية الحضرية، بحسب حديث أمير المنطقة، توفير مناطق ذات اشتراطات عمرانية خاصة تحيط بالكتلة العمرانية لمكة المكرمة من الخارج وتمثل "منطقة الحمى" وحد حماية التنمية، وتكون منخفضة الكثافة العمرانية وذات استعمالات صديقة للبيئة.
وشدد على عدم تداخل حركة المشاة عن طريق تخصيص مسارات لحركة المشاة إضافة إلى مسارات للحافلات والقطارات لانسيابية الحركة للحجاج والمعتمرين وتنقلهم بكل يسر وسهولة.
د. عبدالعزيز الخضيري وفاروق مفتي.
حلول لازدحام الحركة المرورية
وبين الأمير خالد أن مشروع خادم الحرمين الشريفين لإعمار مكة ينطلق إلى وضع حلول جذرية وعملية لازدحام الحركة المرورية والمشاة في مكة المكرمة والمشاعر المقدسة والمنطقة المركزية، وشارك في أعداد دراساتها 12 جهة.
وقال "لسرعة تطوير شبكات الطرق والنقل فقد تم الاتفاق مع الجهات ذات العلاقة خلال الاجتماعات المنعقدة على وضع أولويات الشبكة وتنفيذها على النحو الآتي: استكمال الطرق الدائرية 1، 2، 3، 4، إيجاد محاور إشعاعية جديدة في الاتجاهات الجغرافية الأربعة تصل منطقة الحرم بالمداخل الإقليمية والطرق الدائرية لسرعة تفريغ المسجد الحرام".
ولفت إلى أن من أولويات حلول شبكات الطرق أيضاً، تنفيذ مسارات السكك الحديدية الحضرية على مسار الطريق الدائري الثالث وربطها بمسار قطار المشاعر المقدسة وقطار الحرمين، إنشاء مواقف متعددة الوسائط تعتمد على منهجية نظام إدارة الحركة "اترك سيارتك، استقل النقل العام"، ويجري توزيعها عند تقاطع محاور الطرق الإقليمية مع الطرق الدائرية بسعة محددة لكل موقف بناء على الحركة المرورية القادمة، ويربط هذه المواقف مسارات للنقل العام بالسكك الحديدية والحافلات من خلال مسارات إشعاعية تصل المنطقة المركزية بالمواقف ومسار دائري لتوزيع الحركة بين المسارات.
أحمد الحمدان وعبدالله المعطاني.
وقال إن من أولويات حلول شبكات الطرق المتفق عليها إنشاء مراكز حضرية وضواح لتكون مناطق جاذبة للسكان ومتكاملة ذاتياً من الخدمات والمرافق، بهدف نشر وتوزيع العمران والتقليل من رحلات النقل داخل المدينة، كما تشمل الأولويات إنشاء مواقف للسيارات تحيط بالمنطقة المركزية من الخارج لخدمة الحجاج والمعتمرين والتأكيد على مبدأ استخدام النقل الجماعي والتقليل من استخدام السيارات الخاصة الصغيرة واستحداث وسائل نقل جديدة مثل القطارات و"المونوريل" والحافلات المفصلية (المقطورة)، وأخيراً الفصل بين حركة المركبات الآلية وحركة المشاة وخصوصا في المنطقة المركزية ومنطقة المشاعر المقدسة.
الجدير بالذكر أن هذا المشروع يأتي منسجما مع المشروع الذي وضع خادم الحرمين حجر أساسه والخاص بتوسعة الحرم، ليشمل هذا المشروع توسعة وتحسين وتطوير شامل للعاصمة المقدسة ووسائل النقل بأحدث الطرق العصرية.
من جانبه، أوضح الدكتور عبد العزيز الخضيري وكيل إمارة مكة المكرمة أن طلبات السكان والمقيمين من أهالي مكة لن تهمل مطالبهم أثناء تنفيذ هذه المشاريع، مبيناً أن العمل في المشروع يهدف إلى جعل مكة ذات بعدين محلي، وعالمي.
وأضاف "بلا شك سوف تتم إعادة النظر في بعض المواعيد مثل بدء الدراسة أو غيرها بسبب المواسم في مكة المكرمة".
إلى ذلك، أشار الدكتور أسامة البار أمين العاصمة المقدسة إلى أن الأعمال الإنشائية في المشروع لن تعوق الدخول من وإلى المسجد الحرام أو المشاعر المقدسة، وقال "في أوقات المواسم والذروة سيتم التركيز في العمل خارج المحاور لتخفيف الضغط على المدينة، والعكس صحيح، ففي الأيام العادية سيتم تكثيف العمل داخل مكة وإنجاز العمل، المشروع يستغرق ست سنوات، لكن الأمير خالد الفيصل وجه بأن ننجزه خلال أربع سنوات، وهو تحد بالنسبة لنا قادرين على تحقيقه بمشيئة الله".
http://www.aleqt.com/2011/08/22/article_572043.html
Rody69 August 22nd, 2011, 05:05 PM watch the video on this link
http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2011/08/21/163379.html
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