At AED 1500/sqft average for 1 bedded room for this location, is this not a bit expensive comparing with the current prices within the Marina?


They're not all that sort of price.

Cheapest one bed is a Type C with Marina view. AED 870,986 @ 704 sqft = AED 1,237 per sq ft.

I'm sure DS will not stop at four towers.It's seems reasonable to assume
that the build quality will be good or else there will be no takers for future
towers.
Thanks to RERA most projects in the future might actually complete
on time,Botanica being no exception.
anyway with three towers under construction,DS must have gathered valuable experience..help to speed up delivery.
Completion rumoured to be mid2010 for Botanica.Is this possible?

Thanks Morrismarina, do you think that type C 1 bed will have a clear marina view?

Thanks Morrismarina, do you think that type C 1 bed will have a clear marina view?

I don't much about the area so perhaps better not comment. I have the alignment of the tower plan from DS and also floorplans and price list. Problem is they are in PDF format, tried uploading them but tinypic.com does not like the format. I think I'll need to convert them to MPEG, can anybody tell me if this is possible and how to do it ?

I think you mean JPEG not MPEG.

Do a google search for PDF to JPEG converter. There are many free converters listed.

We do know the quality of Emaar projects so far: mediocre, but liveable.

As for speed, is it really intelligent to compare the Governments no.1 developer's speed with that of a private developer from the UK, here in the wonderful "wastafied" world of the UAE??? :ohno:

If the subcontractors and labour were UK sourced then you would have a point.
I would hedge my bets towards Emaar simply because it's yet to be seen what quality DS will deliver.

Does anyone have any views as to what the views might be like (sea, marina, Palm) and possible obstructions from surrounding plots...

Thanks

View from 38th floor unit 10
http://i18.tinypic.com/6k93nmp.jpg

38th floor unit 01
http://i7.tinypic.com/8gg9fn7.jpg

38th floor unit 04
http://i16.tinypic.com/6ylawl5.jpg

38th floor unit 07
http://i15.tinypic.com/6olhjbc.jpg

pool
http://i8.tinypic.com/7w7r0bl.jpg

Combined Thread about the tragic collapse.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=544685

ps500, One Q pls
I thought that Unit 10 should share some of the 01 unit view.
Is that true, if not, what's blocking the view ???

^^ this thread is NOT about botanica.

RIP

09/November/2007

Dubai Marina, bridge next to Grosvenor House

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/9805/imresolt039wt6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/8759/imresolt040re7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/2349/imresolt050jd0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/9148/imresolt051hl6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/9999/imresolt052ok5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/4619/imresolt053wx2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/6183/imresolt057mr8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/4083/imresolt111la9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/2494/imresolt112mu1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/7206/imresolt113cm4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/3064/imresolt114ww4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

09/November/2007

Dubai Marina , new bridge next to the Roshana Tower

http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/2971/imresolt037ej5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/4456/imresolt038kx1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/6247/imresolt130rz9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/2349/imresolt050jd0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
^^ It almost looks like there are going to be 2 levels???!!

RIP:(:cry::ohno:

Hi everybody...

Based on a plot map I found in one thread I made a newer version to show the progress in the 'World's tallest block'... enjoy... :cheers:

http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/1336/dubaimarinadq4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

What about the red squares, are there projects supposed to be?
And what about Marina Garden, what's the status, is this the correct name?

And btw, I added up all the heights... stunning 6,239 m!!! :nuts: Forget about Burj Dubai!!! :lol:

^^ Your plots are not quite right, the pentominium is right next to 23 marina.

Hi everybody...

Based on a plot map I found in one thread I made a newer version to show the progress in the 'World's tallest block'... enjoy... :cheers:

http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/1336/dubaimarinadq4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

What about the red squares, are there projects supposed to be?
And what about Marina Garden, what's the status, is this the correct name?

And btw, I added up all the heights... stunning 6,239 m!!! :nuts: Forget about Burj Dubai!!! :lol:

Hi GOL2007,

Are the combined Tower heights really that much, Wow.

Here are the correct plot locations for the Tallest Block;

http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/3716/tallestblockplotmapqw5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


I really like your traffic light system of tower status and floor heights on the map too !!

Nice work.

HT

WHAT is going to be done with those marina-side plots is still the big unanswered question. I think for most of us the resolution of the T-mall question was pretty close to what we all had expected and hoped for, with the exception of it not crossing the road.

If we can deduce anything from that it would be that the marina-side plots development will be equally logical and near to what we would all expect. That is, a very classy and exclusive development including a combination of hotel, serviced and regular freehold residences, and perhaps even offices. Logic would dictate at least one supertall along the lines of Malec's design and smaller buildings along water's edge.

I would expect an eclectic combination of structures somewhat like the Marina Mall complex, to include an expansive podium structure, a hall of some sort (arena, convention center, theater???), a limited number of shops and cafes, an attractive mix of villas (like phase one), three low-to-medium heigh towers and the one crowning supertall. The podium should be designed to incorporate extensive greenery along with the requisite water features--fountains and pools.

Money will be no object on this plot, so I think we can count on something grand and beautiful, the likes of which none of the surrounding single-plot developers have been able to do. I think, Mada'in's Marina Arcade sets a good precedent for this.The only real question is WHO is going to do it. All indications are that Emaar has sold the plot. I can't see a rival developer like Nakheel or DP having got it. Could it be another new, regional entity sort of like Mada'in? Could it be for the first time a big international entity out of the States, Europe, Singapore, China, like say a Donald Trump?

Speculation I know... but as we were pretty close to the mark on the T-mall, I think our bets will be pretty close on the mark here too.

What's this (http://www.lightarchitecture.net/img_news.php?id=29)?

http://www.lightarchitecture.net/imgSito/nwPLAZA%20day%20sito.jpg

Plaza Tower - Dubai (http://www.lightarchitecture.net/index2.php)
The two towers are subtly complementary and surrounded by Dubai's scenographic and ever-changing Marina skyline.

on the webpage the towers are shown at a different location. therefore I think they are towers of the Marina Promenade...

The starting point for this project is the client’s wish to build two twin towers on the same building lot in order to enhance its architectural visibility. Indeed, the towers are twins, albeit non-identical. Just as dizygotic twins, the two towers stem from a single nucleus and their surfaces reciprocally adjust their shapes in relation to each other.
The concave and convex forms of the two buildings emphasize their conceptual unity and, even though the gap between them is 20 meters, they indeed seem to adhere to each other in the distance.
The shape of the prolate spheroid becomes a spectacular tower, on which Mediabuilding© technology is employed to inundate Dubai Marina with information and images. The lower part of the spheroid is an empty shell on which there are only images projections, turning the tower into a magical object floating on the surface of the sea. This lower zone provides access from the sea via an elevator that rises up to 8 meters above the sea level where one finds access to the ground floor.
Technology and esthetic are combined in this project that has a strong visual impact in the Dubai Marina.

RIP

09/November/2007

Dubai Marina, bridge next to Grosvenor House

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/9805/imresolt039wt6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


I think it would be nice to have some sort of plaque or memorial for these poor guys who lost their lives working on the bridge when it's finished, as a mark of repect to them and their families.

it would be great.

unfortunatly dubai doesnt do that sort of thing. but it would be nice.

UR UNDER THIS SITE ALL TIME LOL

Is this (http://www.v-consult.co.uk/index.php?p=20&c=3)Malec's tower?

Projects (Most Recent First)
Residential Development, Dubai

Scheme design for a 240m 'twisting tower' forming part of the Dubai Marina development. Reinforced concrete with various options for perimeter framing, including steel bracing and spandrel beam alternatives.

http://213.132.44.184/emaratalyoumnew/Web/Photographs/2007/11/09/003/09_11_2007_003_004_001.jpghttp://213.132.44.184/emaratalyoumnew/Web/Photographs/2007/11/09/002/09_11_2007_002_004_001.jpg

Thanks for your recommendations, HT.

I changed my graphic a bit...
http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/3073/dubaimarinaxo0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

I'll keep it updated. ;)

Good job. Why don't you color in the Marina Arcade, and Mada'in Hotel would be more acurately labelled Marina Arcade Tower. Marina Garden should probably be changed to a question mark only. Is it Damac Heights or Damac Tower?

It's Damac Heights, and it's 460m high as well.
Also the red plot to the left of al seef tower is smaller than the rest, like shown in my one

http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/6236/k0qj6.th.jpg (http://img408.imageshack.us/my.php?image=k0qj6.jpg)

http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/2074/i0xr1.th.jpg (http://img136.imageshack.us/my.php?image=i0xr1.jpg)

^^ malec, what is that tower to the right in those images - next to the Al Fattan towers?

Al Burj, 1050m. It's quite far away though so looks smaller

great render 3D malec :) look's amazing waterfront

Al Burj, 1050m. It's quite far away though so looks smaller

Yeah, I was going to say Al Burj but I just thought it doesn't look anything like it... not the old design we know of anyway.

Excellent images though.:cheers:

Can someone tell me what this tower is called please ?

http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/9017/whatsthistowerlv7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Almas Tower

Great work Malec, don't forget the watermark:cheers:

Can someone tell me what this tower is called please ?

http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/9017/whatsthistowerlv7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Almas Tower - 360 meters !:cheers:^^

Hi GOL2007,

Are the combined Tower heights really that much, Wow.

Here are the correct plot locations for the Tallest Block;

http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/3716/tallestblockplotmapqw5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


I really like your traffic light system of tower status and floor heights on the map too !!

Nice work.

HT

what are these towers? :)

http://www.bmg-group.de/content/articles/projects/pictures/marinacrystal01.jpg
Marina Crystal - 94floors http://www.bmg-group.de/index.php?de_marinacrystal

http://www.bmg-group.de/content/articles/projects/pictures/marinacube01.jpg
Marinacube - 75floors http://www.bmg-group.de/index.php?de_marinacube

http://www.bmg-group.de/content/articles/projects/pictures/swarowskitower01.jpg
Swarowski-Tower - 60floors - http://www.bmg-group.de/index.php?de_swarowski
:runaway:

The last one appears to be a proposal for between MH and TT and not in front of them :D

Although it looks like it is in the Torch plot itself!

last one it's look smilliar to arcde hotel n apatments tower :)

I agree Steve, the photo looking down the Marina would be the view from the Torch definately.

The 94 floor tower spec says 1st line sea view (are there any plots left with a 1st line sea view in the Tallest Block?) I dont think so.

So confusion reigns in the Tallest Block !!

There is also this one, another front line sea view within the Marina :nuts:

http://i14.tinypic.com/7xxgnpe.jpg

http://www.bmg-global-development.de/index.php?de_our_projects

^^ That is also first line sea view :) I wonder where it could go !!

They all seem to be current and under development :nuts:

http://www.bmg-group.de/index.php?en_current_projects

I am begining to wonder if any of these towers will actually "Go Ahead" in the Tallest Block.

There seems to be a lot of proposals for Dubai Marina on the BMG website. All look very conceptual to me claiming things like 1st line sea view and so on.

They will all go ahead but where? Read the individual datasheets :nuts:

You can see the location of Marinacube here. I noted the word ARCADE on the green floor to the left of the tower of this pic ! :) So although they say front line sea view they do not mean that perhaps, just close to the sea with glimpses of a view between towers.

http://www.bmg-group.de/content/articles/projects/pictures/marinacube01.jpg

Perhaps next to pentominium ? you can see the marina arcade tower in the back and we have the 2 other spare plots in this area + the plot between MH + TT

They will all go ahead but where? Read the individual datasheets :nuts:

The Marina view would be good for the old sales center plots hight wise footprint wise and name suggest the views it would have

^^ yes could be the mystery unknown Emaar development :dunno:

PROJECT USE Retail/Residence/Villas
LOCATION
· Global location Dubai
· Local location Marina
FLOORS
· Floors-above ground 2 x 28 floors
· Floors-below ground 2 x 3 floors
· Type 3B+G+27

Perhaps next to pentominium ? you can see the marina arcade tower in the back and we have the 2 other spare plots in this area + the plot between MH + TT

Do you mean where Marina Garden used to be?

^^ yes could be the mystery unknown Emaar development :dunno:

PROJECT USE Retail/Residence/Villas
LOCATION
· Global location Dubai
· Local location Marina
FLOORS
· Floors-above ground 2 x 28 floors
· Floors-below ground 2 x 3 floors
· Type 3B+G+27

Yes Steve,

Looks like it would fit like a glove, but i guess we will have to wait and see.

Could this BMG outfit really have bought up all thise plots.

Serious Wasta :lol:

Do you mean where Marina Garden used to be?

yes in that area.

The Marina view would be good for the old sales center plots hight wise footprint wise and name suggest the views it would have

Love the design of the Marina View :lol:

http://i18.tinypic.com/72qz4sz.jpg

Yes Steve,

Looks like it would fit like a glove, but i guess we will have to wait and see.

Could this BMG outfit really have bought up all thise plots.

Serious Wasta :lol:

They will not be the Major Shareholder

^^

It would be great to see this on the old sales center plots.

Excellent for Torch and Marina Heights investors too.

If you look at the costs of the land on the datafiles it must be prime locations

Love the design of the Marina View :lol:

http://i18.tinypic.com/72qz4sz.jpg

hmmm not very special :D

I emailed the project manager and asked him ! :)

hmmm not very special :D

I emailed the project manager and asked him ! :)

It is just an early stage concept, Colouring volumes.

hmmm not very special :D

I emailed the project manager and asked him ! :)

Did you send him a link of this thread and asked to register and reply? Did he had a blog too ... maybe recently closed? :dunno:

^^ yes could be the mystery unknown Emaar development :dunno:

PROJECT USE Retail/Residence/Villas
LOCATION
· Global location Dubai
· Local location Marina
FLOORS
· Floors-above ground 2 x 28 floors
· Floors-below ground 2 x 3 floors
· Type 3B+G+27

One doubtful thing is the cost indicated of the plot. At 90,000 sq.ft. it is priced 120,000 AED, whereas other plots--like that of the Swarowski tower is 27,000 sq.ft. for 110,000 AED and 38,000 sq.ft. for 180,000 AED on the Cube plot.

It doesn't make sense that the marina fronting plot at over the twice the size of the Cube plot would cost much less. I'd say Marina View is for a completely different area.

^^ An UNLIMITED height plot cost much more then a restricted height one.

Did you send him a link of this thread and asked to register and reply? Did he had a blog too ... maybe recently closed? :dunno:

Shall I tell him to contact you since you had no luck with that other girl (red4passion) :lol:

One doubtful thing is the cost indicated of the plot. At 90,000 sq.ft. it is priced 120,000 AED, whereas other plots--like that of the Swarowski tower is 27,000 sq.ft. for 110,000 AED and 38,000 sq.ft. for 180,000 AED on the Cube plot.

It doesn't make sense that the marina fronting plot at over the twice the size of the Cube plot would cost much less. I'd say Marina View is for a completely different area.

Are there any other suitable plots left for 2 towers which would have a marina view ?

Shall I tell him to contact you since you had no luck with that other girl :lol:

Isn't that a BIG contradiction? :lol:

Are there any other suitable plots left for 2 towers which would have a marina view ?

Read my post (1810)

90,000 ft2 is a massive plot size almost around 3 average plot sizes

Can't think of any other plot it could be for, and as AltinD says the price would be lower for restricted height, so this could be the one then. However, I would have thought something grander would happen here or a shopping mall at least and what about this saudi investor rummour ?

they will probably have villas and retail to fill the gaps. Similar layout to marinscape. I wonder if the road running along torch and MH that is currently cut off by the plot will reappear!

If it is for that Emaar plot then all TT and MH investors will have a huge party!

^^ An UNLIMITED height plot cost much more then a restricted height one.

But why would this be a resticted height plot when Infinity tower for example occupies a plot similarly located along the marina's edge? There are a number of very tall towers--40+ floors being bulilt right along the marina.

If it is for that Emaar plot then all TT and MH investors will have a huge party!

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/images/smilies/dancing.gifhttp://forum.skyscraperpage.com/images/smilies/dancing.gifhttp://forum.skyscraperpage.com/images/smilies/dancing.gifhttp://forum.skyscraperpage.com/images/smilies/dancing.gifhttp://forum.skyscraperpage.com/images/smilies/dancing.gifhttp://forum.skyscraperpage.com/images/smilies/dancing.gif
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/images/smilies/dancing.gifhttp://forum.skyscraperpage.com/images/smilies/dancing.gifhttp://forum.skyscraperpage.com/images/smilies/dancing.gifhttp://forum.skyscraperpage.com/images/smilies/dancing.gifhttp://forum.skyscraperpage.com/images/smilies/dancing.gifhttp://forum.skyscraperpage.com/images/smilies/dancing.gif
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/images/smilies/dancing.gifhttp://forum.skyscraperpage.com/images/smilies/dancing.gifhttp://forum.skyscraperpage.com/images/smilies/dancing.gifhttp://forum.skyscraperpage.com/images/smilies/dancing.gifhttp://forum.skyscraperpage.com/images/smilies/dancing.gifhttp://forum.skyscraperpage.com/images/smilies/dancing.gif

^^ That reminds me of that convict dancing video on youtube !

Where has Marina view thread gone

^^ completed section

krazy, i cant find the thread for one of my apartments in jumeriah lake towers, what do i do thanks

krazy, i cant find the thread for one of my apartments in jumeriah lake towers, what do i do thanks

This one

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=126620&page=44

krazy, i cant find the thread for one of my apartments in jumeriah lake towers, what do i do thanks

Bit cheeky for a 40 plus female !

tomorrow i'll add marina tower and my, now already half way finished, roshana tower. after that i'll make a render. here a quick preview without the two towers.

http://i11.tinypic.com/6tvi0s1.jpg

what are these towers? :)

http://www.bmg-group.de/content/articles/projects/pictures/marinacrystal01.jpg
Marina Crystal - 94floors http://www.bmg-group.de/index.php?de_marinacrystal

http://www.bmg-group.de/content/articles/projects/pictures/marinacube01.jpg
Marinacube - 75floors http://www.bmg-group.de/index.php?de_marinacube

http://www.bmg-group.de/content/articles/projects/pictures/swarowskitower01.jpg
Swarowski-Tower - 60floors - http://www.bmg-group.de/index.php?de_swarowski
:runaway:



:eek2::eek2::eek2::eek2::eek2:

Is that who i think it is posting... ?


..It cant be...

16/November/2007

Dubai Marina -Jumeirah Lakes Towers, Interchange 5 , landscaping and Marina Metro Station, board (JLT side)

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/6107/imresolt085cv2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/3699/imresolt086ud5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/7112/imresolt082nj3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Nice to see the progress there. Finally some green for the DM area.

elso more O2 is coming :)

Quote:
Originally Posted by propertymagnet
krazy, i cant find the thread for one of my apartments in jumeriah lake towers, what do i do thanks

Bit cheeky for a 40 plus female !
I beg your pardon young man?

Nice to see the progress there. Finally some green for the DM area.


How many years palms grow before they are large?

How many years palms grow before they are large?

Two years.

Very fast! :banana:

Yes it's due to the intense heat.

http://i7.tinypic.com/8f30tiu.jpg

Great stuff

wonderful :)

http://www.dheerajeastcoast.com/images/ImageGallery/img_4.jpg

Dubai Addiction,

That looks amazing.
How do you do that?
What program do you use?
Where can i get it ?

Cheers

@high times

just google sketchup ... you can download it for free, just search for sketchup with google :P after i created a model i render with kerkythea... also a free program :D

Recent fog causes havoc with air and road traffic.


http://estb.msn.com/i/6D/4F824A4ADE11599FC258ADAC8D91.jpg

Okay, I know we have had the subject up before, - but is there any place one can go to the beach in the Marina, except for JBR and the hotels?
Is it the last 10 meters just before the ocean that is public?
Or did the hotels buy the rights to the entire beach?

What will happen when the JBR beach parks are ready?
Will marina residents have access to beach?

What will happen when the JBR beach parks are ready?
Will marina residents have access to beach?

Apparently yes! The parks will be open to the public for a fee. JBR residents may get in for free:dunno:

View down the Marina towards the massive Marina Mall Hotel
http://i2.tinypic.com/7wtqhpj.jpg
From Flickr

as far as i know, there will be two kind of beaches in the marina, a Beach Park open to the public for a nominal fee (the plot between the Hilton and the Sheraton), and 4 membership-base Beach Clubs. the Beach Park will be free for JBR.

do we have a thread of this project, right behind Zumured on the marina, called Arshia Marina

http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/1143/dscf0018od8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/1143/dscf0018od8.2fa14d5cfa.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=518&i=dscf0018od8.jpg)



http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/5747/dscf0016bze6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Nice, the water color looks so tropical in Dubai currently. :)

do we have a thread of this project, right behind Zumured on the marina, called Arshia Marina


here's the thread http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=378327

:eek2::eek2::eek2::eek2::eek2:

Is that who i think it is posting... ?

..It cant be...

:lol:
I've been here everyday :D
but yea, not posting anything for a looong time...

Am interested in buying in the marina,does anyone know of any new launches coming up or which buildings may be good to buy into?have got around 1.million aed to spend

http://i12.tinypic.com/7yoa4p1.jpg

http://i3.tinypic.com/7ymidmc.jpg

http://i5.tinypic.com/7203es3.jpg

http://i19.tinypic.com/7x1lb0i.jpg

http://i18.tinypic.com/739x3pc.jpg

http://i10.tinypic.com/71r0aq0.jpg

http://i12.tinypic.com/86r6xpx.jpg

http://i15.tinypic.com/6jp61pz.jpg

http://i11.tinypic.com/81s9c1t.jpg

http://i8.tinypic.com/6ocuvf5.jpg

http://i11.tinypic.com/81qw01f.jpg

http://i13.tinypic.com/6xpxnc6.jpg

Am interested in buying in the marina,does anyone know of any new launches coming up or which buildings may be good to buy into?have got around 1.million aed to spend

you haven't specified if you are looking for rental income or capital appreciation ;)
well if you have one mil, you could get a nice one bed or with luck a 2 bed...
marina diamond wont be bad as it comes fully furnished (i saw a 2 bed advertised for less than one mil)
..marina view towers is already getting ready within a month or so

there is a lot of choice...but if you are looking for a better capital appreciation, JLT would be ideal to some extent

I created a panorama with your photos mackie, hope you don't mind and thanks by the way. When were they taken?
http://i11.tinypic.com/6srcm6x.jpg

Am interested in buying in the marina,does anyone know of any new launches coming up or which buildings may be good to buy into?have got around 1.million aed to spend

If it were me, I'd go with Mada'in's Marina Arcade. Why--this development is super classy--call it Dubai Marina's Rodeo Drive or 5th Avenue. It is the jewel of the tallest block which, once Pentomenium and all the other towers materialize, will be one of the world's premiere upscale address. Even in a property market downturn, this place will be THE location.

BUT it is awfully expensive--reportedly starting at 1900 Dhs per square foot. (As high as that is it is less than what Damac is asking and I don't think either of their Marina properties will offer what Mada'in will.) As expensive as it is, it will only go up uP and UP post launch, so I think it would still make a good investment.

There is only one caveat. Madai'in is an unknown, unproven entity. Still, if I had a million, that is what I'd go with.

excellent shoots ;) thnx mackie for those pixs D M looking so different ..

Yes the Marina looks much better and in Two years will be agreat place.

I don't know what will they do about the Airport though, it took us over 1.5 hour to reach the passport control, then seconds to get through. I was surprised to see so many people at this time of the year!!

@ Josau; Today afternoon.

^^ answer = world central airport... :)




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Yes the Marina looks much better and in Two years will be agreat place.

I don't know what will they do about the Airport though, it took us over 1.5 hour to reach the passport control, then seconds to get through. I was surprised to see so many people at this time of the year!!


Mackie…I’m loving your trip’s feedbacks. Thanks brother.

good news for the Marina and JLT investors:)

Work on Al Sufouh tram on track for January start


Dubai: Construction on the Al Sufouh tram network will start in January to provide alternate mode of transportation in the fast growing area and to ease traffic congestion, said a senior official.

"The 15-km tram lines will run on Al Sufouh Road connecting Burj Al Arab and Jumeirah Beach Residence (JBR) and Jumeirah Lake Towers," said Engineer Abdul Majid Khaja, Chief Executive Officer of the Rail Agency at the Dubai Roads and Transport Authority (RTA).

In an exclusive interview with Gulf News, Al Khaja said the tram project would be completed within 21 months and would be operational in September 2009 with the completion of the Red Line of the Dubai Metro, which runs along Shaikh Zayed Road.

Metro connection


"The tram will be connected to the Red Line at three points including Burj Al Arab Station, Dubai Marina Station and Ibn Battuta Mall Station to facilitate commuters reach metro stations," he revealed.

The tram will serve areas such as Internet city, Dubai Marina, Media City, Knowledge Village, JBR and a dozens of luxury hotels in the area, which have already started facing traffic congestion.

"More than half a million people in the area are expected to benefit from the tram project, which is part of the RTA's plan to provide integrated mass transit facilities connecting trams, buses, metro and water transport projects.

The first phase of the tram project is also nicknamed 'The Shopping Trolley' as it will provide a link to major shopping areas including Mall of Emirates, Madinat Jumeirah and Ibn Battuta Mall.

"There will be a total of 270 km of tram network in Dubai in both old and new areas to feed the metro stations in addition to providing alternate modes of transport in different areas," said Al Khaja. The RTA will spend some Dh 9.19 billion on different phases of the tram project.

Complete journey

There will be around 19 stations planned for the tram route subject to change. Al Sufouh Tram network will also connect to the Jumeirah Palm Mono Rail project in future.

"People, who will use Dubai Metro favour a complete journey experience. Tram system and public buses are answer to their concerns as they will all be integrated to complete journey from one point to another without the need of using a private car," he noted.

There will two tracks for the tram and its average speed will be 25km per hour. Unlike Dubai Metro, trams will be driven by drivers because it mingles with vehicular traffic on the road.

The RTA is already working to improve the road network in the Al Sufouh area. According to the RTA studies, around 110,000 people are expected to reside in Dubai Marina and Jumeirah Beach Residences and some 150,000 people will live in Jumeirah Lake Towers area.

Around 100,000 people are expected to come for work in the area, which also includes Dubai Media City, the Internet City and the Knowledge Village.

Future plans: Extension to Union House

Al Sufouh Tram Project is likely to be extended on Jumeirah Road upto the Union House in future.

The Dubai Roads and Transport Authority (RTA) is, currently, studying the options of extending the tram network to other areas including Jumeirah Road.

The tram network will be linked to the nearest station of the Metro line. "The tram project will encourage people in these posh areas to use alternate mode of transport instead of personal cars," an RTA official said.
(Gulfnews)

good news for the Marina and JLT investors:)

Work on Al Sufouh tram on track for January start


Dubai: Construction on the Al Sufouh tram network will start in January to provide alternate mode of transportation in the fast growing area and to ease traffic congestion, said a senior official.

"The 15-km tram lines will run on Al Sufouh Road connecting Burj Al Arab and Jumeirah Beach Residence (JBR) and Jumeirah Lake Towers," said Engineer Abdul Majid Khaja, Chief Executive Officer of the Rail Agency at the Dubai Roads and Transport Authority (RTA).




^^ I read it earlier in Gulf News as well and I was wondering on which streets it would run once in the Marina/JBR area. It must do quite a "zickzack" in order to pass by JBR, the Marina Mall, the Marina Metro station, JLT and then end up at Ibn Batutta Mall. Any ideas ?

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^^ From the map it looks at thought the tram will pass by the front of JBR along the road in front of the beach hotels. This makes sense so as to arrive and depart from The Walk shops at JBR.

Good news for JBR residents I think.

Also notice how it does not cross the marina next to Infinity and GH as some people had mentioned. Which is very intresting as it means plot next to Infinity could be another tower.

^^ or a water park / swimming pool :)

^^ We know for sure that the plot next to Infinity is for a tower. It was clearly marked and numbered on the Map we have seen.

So the tram will go over this new marina bridge ?

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and continue over the main road at the back of Marina Heights and the Torch.

and the nearest monorail stop is opposite the bridge on the JLT side ?

Will the tram stop at Emirates Mall it looks like it only goes to Burj Dubai (incorrectly marked as Burj Al Arab) in the the map ?

The map seems incorrect for the "arse end" of the marina. Have you noticed that the canal shows to be closed there ???? Will that be the future or was it just an incompetent person doing the drawings ????

The Burj Al Arab label is probably not incorrect. it seems to be referring to the name of the Metro stop. So I guess it is appropriate as the tram will now link this stop to the Burj Al Arab. This goes nowhere near the Burj Dubai.

Great news, by the way. The tram ought to be a real bane for Dubai Marina residents meaning they won't have to walk to the 10-15 minutes to reach a metro stop. If precise time schedules are implemented then one could time their tram/metro shuttle for ultimate convenience. Dubai Marina residents may well be able to do without cars!

Dubai Marina residents may well be able to do without cars!

Theoretically, I agree...... for holiday makers: yes..... but residents ???? I have my doubts :nuts::nuts::nuts: But people may only need one car .....

The Burj Al Arab label is probably not incorrect. it seems to be referring to the name of the Metro stop. So I guess it is appropriate as the tram will now link this stop to the Burj Al Arab. This goes nowhere near the Burj Dubai.

I agree, when i saw the map it made sence that the name Burj Al Arab would mean where you stop and change as a link

The Map is CORRECT.

The Metro Station in front of EMAAR's Gold And Diamond Park, is named Burj Al Arab Station.

The map of the metro is great, I think this is one of the best projects in Dubai because it will help...everyone for a more convient way of life & travel. What other projects can say they do that. Also the map shows the metro going into the marina and jbr but, where exactly do passengers get off, because by the looks of it now they just go in a circle and get off at the jlt station or the marina station by szr.

The map seems incorrect for the "arse end" of the marina. Have you noticed that the canal shows to be closed there ???? Will that be the future or was it just an incompetent person doing the drawings ????

interesting point.
i wouldnt speculate as i think it is just a mistake.

i guess arse-end's residents would be reasonably quite pissed if that drawing turned out to be accurate.

anyhow, it is very unlikely as i remember some of you guys mentioned a few months ago that a new bridge in the upper marina was too low in height to allow bigger boats to enter the marina and that they would enter from the arse-end side, also in terms of water currents it would not be wise.

So it runs across the new bridge, I always tought this bridge was wider than the other ones. Am I correct or is it just an impression from the photos?

interesting point.
i wouldnt speculate as i think it is just a mistake.

i guess arse-end's residents would be reasonably quite pissed if that drawing turned out to be accurate.

anyhow, it is very unlikely as i remember some of you guys mentioned a few months ago that a new bridge in the upper marina was too low in height to allow bigger boats to enter the marina and that they would enter from the arse-end side, also in terms of water currents it would not be wise.

Keep it up, idiot's. Have you any idea just how many people you may be offending with this regurgitation? Show a bit of maturity if that's possible!

Keep it up, idiot's. Have you any idea just how many people you may be offending with this regurgitation?

Only one.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Only one.

:lol: :lol: :lol:



Maybe 2 :lol::lol::lol:

It seems like people have formed groups based on where they have invested.

Disparaging remarks will damage the entire Marina development and hence your own investment within it. :ohno:

It Disparaging remarks will damage the entire Marina development and hence your own investment within it. :ohno:

I think this is a bit exaggerated :lol::lol::lol: The percentage of people reading the thread compared to the number that will actually resident or make holidays in the Marina........ come on, a bit of humor please :)

By the way, you are invited to provide us with "nice" nick-names for the other parts of the Marina. May be the nick-name in question (I avoid to name it again, did you notice :lol: ) will disappear when the power plant will have been relocated......

It is entirely possible that TrueBlue and whoever else invested at that end of the marina will have the last laugh as they'll have paid far less per sq ft and so there is more potential upside.

It seems like people have formed groups based on where they have invested.

Disparaging remarks will damage the entire Marina development and hence your own investment within it. :ohno:

I think you are in danger of taking this forum just a little too seriously.

There is always going to be a bit of banter flying around in public forums. Just because someone creates a derogatory nick name for a certain part of the marina it doesnt mean that its game over for it as a development or residence.

Everyone who uses these forums finds them to be of benefit in one way or another, mostly to see how Dubai is progressing as a growing city and more specificaly how individuals investments/homes are progressing.

If you think that by a few people calling an area of the marina a piece of shit it will effect it's value then thats just daft.

The end of the Marina that you are reffering to is different than the other end as it is lower rise buildings and not as dense i actually think it will make for a more relaxed atmosphere and sedate way of life for residence.

Who knows how it will end up.

It might be that the tallest block ends up like the high rise towers in south london, and the other end of the marina is viewed as the jewel in the crown.

No one knows but chill out for f**k sake. Its an internet forum not a global property perspectus.

Nicely put High Times. Now, can we get on to more news. Does anyone know what form the tram will actually take--tracks down the middle of the road, on side, elevated? Will there be any tram stations? Easy to hop on and frequent trams along with easy to hop and and frequent water taxis, could make the Marina pedestrian friendly after all.

Whats so wrong about the a.... end of Marina ? Once the plant removed and maybe the WTB build it should be ok .....

hi all

i have a shed load of pics from dubai marina from the baclony of a 20th floor apartment in grosvenor house.
would this thread be the best place to post them as i am unsure of buildings and plots etc?

cheers

hi all

i have a shed load of pics from dubai marina from the baclony of a 20th floor apartment in grosvenor house.
would this thread be the best place to post them as i am unsure of buildings and plots etc?

cheers

:nuts:absolutely, bring them on!

ok ill get them all uploaded and anyone who knows what the buildings are or plots etc please feel free to copy them into the correct thread.

Two of Imre's joined up

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thanks Kevan:)

28/November/2007

Dubai Marina

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28/November/2007

Dubai Marina


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28/November/2007

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:nuts:absolutely, bring them on!

:nocrook:

Whats so wrong about the a.... end of Marina ? Once the plant removed and maybe the WTB build it should be ok .....

that who we play lol

Maybe 2 :lol::lol::lol:

Maybe more ! :lol::lol:

thnx IMRE....Beautiful place with fantastic views and the all the amenities! The Best!"

ok here goes. loads of pics to post so will probably do them in stages.

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not so sure about the truth in this one!!

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why does it take so bloody long to post up images with imageshack?

does anyone know any other sites i can host the photos, have been trying to get the images up since 2 oclock today and still arent even half way through.
it keeps waiting for ages then going back to the homepage when i try to upload.

any clues??

why does it take so bloody long to post up images with imageshack?

does anyone know any other sites i can host the photos, have been trying to get the images up since 2 oclock today and still arent even half way through.
it keeps waiting for ages then going back to the homepage when i try to upload.

any clues??

i always use tinypic.com with no probs.

you haven't specified if you are looking for rental income or capital appreciation ;)
well if you have one mil, you could get a nice one bed or with luck a 2 bed...
marina diamond wont be bad as it comes fully furnished (i saw a 2 bed advertised for less than one mil)
..marina view towers is already getting ready within a month or so

there is a lot of choice...but if you are looking for a better capital appreciation, JLT would be ideal to some extent
Hi Rexdmx,I am looking more for cap appreciation although income is important too.Also Tameer are launcing a tower in the marina in Feb so do u think its better to wait and buy off plan?would still like recommendations on existing towers in marina for 1million aed.Is the marina still good for cap appreciation?the way I see it although prices in dubai arent rising like before,in 3/4 years I see marina prices as at least doubling,its a great development.

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Great shots, thanks a lot!!!!!!!!

Better Videos and Photos when I return Home

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Great shots, thanks a lot!!!!!!!!


havent finished yet!!

took me nearly all day yesterday to load those up. more to come today

some of your pictures are big in size. maybe you could reduce the a size a bit and then you could upload faster!

some of your pictures are big in size. maybe you could reduce the a size a bit and then you could upload faster!

how do i do that??

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how do i do that??
^^I like when the photos are big, I actually reposted some of yours on other threads. Great shots, a different point of view.

^^I like when the photos are big, I actually reposted some of yours on other threads. Great shots, a different point of view.


ok thanks. i wasnt sure of what plot was what so that is a great help.
theyre all done now anyway.

big thnx yoou wonderful random pix :)

Hi Rexdmx,I am looking more for cap appreciation although income is important too.Also Tameer are launcing a tower in the marina in Feb so do u think its better to wait and buy off plan?would still like recommendations on existing towers in marina for 1million aed.Is the marina still good for cap appreciation?the way I see it although prices in dubai arent rising like before,in 3/4 years I see marina prices as at least doubling,its a great development.


u dont need to wait for tameer...ready properties always have more value anyway.

hmm let's see okay now for the capital appreciation.

you can try getting a nice one bedroom in jlt preferably close to the metro like goldcrest executive and indigo tower or the ones getting ready soon like goldcrest views or simply the ones which also have a strong developer like jumeirah bay.


in the marina,
a studio or a one bedroom can be suitable in marina diamond (still historically one of the best investments in marina and they finish early!)

there are actually other good places for example in the views as it is seen as the best places for families...the prices are also quite reasonable and it is next to media city

u dont need to wait for tameer...ready properties always have more value anyway.

hmm let's see okay now for the capital appreciation.

you can try getting a nice one bedroom in jlt preferably close to the metro like goldcrest executive and indigo tower or the ones getting ready soon like goldcrest views or simply the ones which also have a strong developer like jumeirah bay.


in the marina,
a studio or a one bedroom can be suitable in marina diamond (still historically one of the best investments in marina and they finish early!)

there are actually other good places for example in the views as it is seen as the best places for families...the prices are also quite reasonable and it is next to media city

Ready properties have more value but then they cost more?is JLT a good bet?
I figured its the poor relation of the marina.A hassle to get over the road whereas if u live in the marina everything including shops and beach is within a short walk.Do the prices between the two differ much?

Ready properties have more value but then they cost more?is JLT a good bet?
I figured its the poor relation of the marina.A hassle to get over the road whereas if u live in the marina everything including shops and beach is within a short walk.Do the prices between the two differ much?

It's all relative I suppose. JLT prices are definitely lower than the Marina, and you won't have to cross anything to enter the metro stations. Also, you're on the same side as Ibn Battuta while the Marina Mall will require a road crossing. What JLT will have that the Marina won't is many more commercial towers. So, one could possibly end up with an office address and home address in close proximity.

That said, the Marina will still have the beach and more swank as in 5-star hotels, the tallest block and the Marina Arcade. I think it is worth the higher prices, but JLT still offers great bang for the buck.

It's all relative I suppose. JLT prices are definitely lower than the Marina, and you won't have to cross anything to enter the metro stations. Also, you're on the same side as Ibn Battuta while the Marina Mall will require a road crossing. What JLT will have that the Marina won't is many more commercial towers. So, one could possibly end up with an office address and home address in close proximity.

That said, the Marina will still have the beach and more swank as in 5-star hotels, the tallest block and the Marina Arcade. I think it is worth the higher prices, but JLT still offers great bang for the buck.
Is it bad to have an ofiice and home address nearby?Also can u recommend which towers in JLT and Marina are a good bet if I have a budget of 1million aed?

P.S Also is an advantage with JLT is that u dont have to cross SZR if u lived in the marina to get to other places other than IBN like dubailand etc?

The tram stops outside the monorail station so it is quite easy to get it when the temperature is too hot to walk. The bridge over SZR to the monorail stop will be air conditioned and I also beleive will have escalator, so no need to walk :)

The incident occurred late on Wednesday evening as the workers were trying to install an elevator in a new building. According to eyewitnesses, the scaffolding built up to the 35th floor of the residential block, suddenly collapsed, burying the men under tonnes of rubble and debris. Rescue teams rushed to the area and had to dig out the trapped men. Two of the workers were crushed to death and died at the scene, while three others who were injured were taken to Rashid Hospital.
From 7 Days (http://www.7days.ae/en/2007/11/30/dubai-collapse-kills-two.html). Does anyone know in which tower this accident happened? Sounds really scary--35 floors of scaffolding collapsing... getting crushed to death in an elevator shaft!

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From 7 Days (http://www.7days.ae/en/2007/11/30/dubai-collapse-kills-two.html). Does anyone know in which tower this accident happened? Sounds really scary--35 floors of scaffolding collapsing... getting crushed to death in an elevator shaft!

I know just the Time Place and Marina Quays which are DCE and they have ready 27 floors, any other guess?

7days:

The incident occurred late on Wednesday evening as the workers were trying to install an elevator in a new building. According to eyewitnesses, the scaffolding built up to the 35th floor of the residential block, suddenly collapsed, burying the men under tonnes of rubble and debris.


Gulfnews:

The accident took place at 5:30pm when the scaffolding on the elevator's shaft at the 27th floor collapsed and fell. Police said a lack of safety measures led to the collapse.

7days:

The main contractor for the building was Dubai Civil Engineering.

The men who died worked for ETA Ascon - subcontractors at the work site.


Khaleej Times:

The deceased — Nizamuddin, 25, and Sulaiman, 23, both from the south Indian state of Tamil Nadu — and the injured were working in the bottom of the lift shaft when the scaffolding collapsed from the 27th floor around 5pm.

Are their families compensated for this? Or does the construction company just apologize? Because if it was their own faults and they weren't following the safety guidlines properly, than I guess an apology would be okay. But, if their deaths were a result of inadequate safety measures set in place by the company itself, than their families should definitley be compensated for this loss... if not that just seems wrong to me...

I think in this accident and in other recent ones the news reports have been quick to point out that families are being compensated by a stated amount (usually tens of thousands of dirham). Whether, however, this is actually happening one must wonder. It seems like such announcements are made even before any investigation is carried out. One would hope, however, such payments are made regardless of fault--as long as it is not shown to be a case of sabotage. But there are sometimes reports of workmen being blamed and arrested for accidents. So, I guess of they survive they may be held culpable.

By the way, does anyone have confirmation of which tower?

Hello All,

Can anyone living in the Marina tell me... is the internet service in the Marina area still uncensored? Has there been any news regarding the proposed future censorship?

Thanks!

I doubt it was Time Place. That day I walked up to the TP and I saw nothing suspicious. The sirens were heard some 30 minutes later. Most probably it has been the Marina Quays, and the fact that it is an Emaar project would explain the "secrecy".

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Is it bad to have an ofiice and home address nearby?Also can u recommend which towers in JLT and Marina are a good bet if I have a budget of 1million aed?

actually it is quite convenient to have both close by...

for marina; focus on timeplace, marina diamond 4 and marina views
for jlt; focus on goldcrest views, goldcrest executive, palladium, indigo tower, jumeirah bay etc

you can get one bedrooms all around this price more or less...:cheers:

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actually it is quite convenient to have both close by...

for marina; focus on timeplace, marina diamond 4 and marina views
for jlt; focus on goldcrest views, goldcrest executive, palladium, indigo tower, jumeirah bay etc

you can get one bedrooms all around this price more or less...:cheers:
Thanks for the tips.

I doubt it was Time Place. That day I walked up to the TP and I saw nothing suspicious. The sirens were heard some 30 minutes later. Most probably it has been the Marina Quays, and the fact that it is an Emaar project would explain the "secrecy".

Probably the Marina Quays , today I saw there just a few workers on the basement area.

Dubai Steve, what are the people looking at on your photo?

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Beach by the marina, Dubai the new Surfing destination :lol:

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Dubai Steve, what are the people looking at on your photo?

Dubai powerboat championship awards at the marina.

Either that or dubaiflo was selling his marina maps at half price. :D



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Can somebody copy these to the right place please?

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Can somebody combine some of these?


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New Restaurant / Shisha place below Marina height

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Can anyone confirm what the current regulations are regarding construction work carrying on through the night? I thought I read somewhere that it was against municipality regulations for construction work from 11pm - 6am but not sure.....? Thanks

And is anyone able to answer my previous question... is the Marina internet censored yet? Is there any news on when that may happen? Thanks!!

you haven't specified if you are looking for rental income or capital appreciation ;)
well if you have one mil, you could get a nice one bed or with luck a 2 bed...
marina diamond wont be bad as it comes fully furnished (i saw a 2 bed advertised for less than one mil)
..marina view towers is already getting ready within a month or so

there is a lot of choice...but if you are looking for a better capital appreciation, JLT would be ideal to some extent
Do u remember where u saw that 2 bed for less than 1m?
Also,where do marina owners tend to advertise,would like to buy direct and not go through an agent?

And is anyone able to answer my previous question... is the Marina internet censored yet? Is there any news on when that may happen? Thanks!!

not censored, I have du connection and I can see everything.

Is it bad to have an ofiice and home address nearby?Also can u recommend which towers in JLT and Marina are a good bet if I have a budget of 1million aed?


if you have apr. 1 million , go with 2 studios of Zumurud it seems to me a good deal now.I posted some info on the Zumurud thread as well.

if you have apr. 1 million , go with 2 studios of Zumurud it seems to me a good deal now.I posted some info on the Zumurud thread as well.
Thanks,am looking at this one too,does seem to be a good bet.

Do u remember where u saw that 2 bed for less than 1m?
Also,where do marina owners tend to advertise,would like to buy direct and not go through an agent?

a good agent would take care of u from start to finish and make it more easier
as to where i saw the two bed...cant recall but i would pm u if i find it

not censored, I have du connection and I can see everything.

EVERYTHING? :naughty:

Where is this? Next to Timeplace?

HOTEL APARTMENTS FOR SALE IN DUBAI MARINA


WE EXPECT THESE UNITS TO SELL OUT BY THE WEEKEND.



Harbour Residences, Dubai Marina



Harbour Residences is a Ground + 18 storey development on an unobstructed direct Marina plot. Harbour Residences is one of the most prestigious developments to date in Dubai Marina. The development is a 5 star hotel with fully furnished apartments - interior designed by the leading interior design company ‘The One’. The development consists of studios, one & two bed apartments. Harbour Residences is one of the very few developments anywhere around the world to have villas on the Marina with unobstructed direct marina views. Harbour Residences is in direct competition with Emaar’s Dubai Marina Mall, where the rate per Sq Ft is starting from 2,500AED per Sq Ft - however Harbour Residences rate per Sq Ft is starting from 1,750AED per Sq Ft. The development offers a flexible lease back schemes where if you are not using your apartment for personal use your apartment can be taken over by the hotel management to rent out on a daily night basis of an average of £250 per night.

the launch was at the Cityscape , I asked them about the exact location but they didnt know , just somewhere around the Marina Mall:)

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=536014

06/December/2007

Dubai Marina-JLT , Interchange 5.5 and JLT Metro Station

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Some nice videos of the Marina Area:


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Views from Gold Crest View (JLT) Roof Pool deck:

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Burj Dubai from Marina Height:

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Marina Promanade from Marina Height:

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I don't know if this has been mentioned before but it may be of interest to marina residents.

There is a public bus service in operation from the marina to the city centre and other main areas. The start is from a temporary stand between The Jewels and Dorrabay as seen in the picture below. I discussed this with Imre and he showed me new air conditioned bus shelters which have been installed on Al Sufouh road and Jumeirah beach road.

I only found out when I visited the Jewels every day last week and wondered why there was always spanking new buses sitting parked at the side of the road and taking on passengers.

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I would assume that when the new bridge is formed that the permanent bus stand will be below it or nearby.

There are actually two lines: one runs express and is great to get to Bur Dubai and the Creek, the other one is local and takes forever, but is o.k. to go to Media City or Madinat Jumeirah.

This article from Construction News was accompanied by a picture of Dubai marina.

Wonder who they are referring to with the inferrence that some companies are better at marketing than building? Probably begins with "D". :)




Building standards slammed
by Hugo Berger on Saturday, 08 December 2007
The real estate profession is being driven by marketing and quality is suffering, according to a senior industry figure.Only 10 to 15% of completed building projects in the Middle East are of a ‘decent' standard, according to an industry expert. The claim was made by Anwer Sher, managing director of EMS, at the recent Construction Week conference.

Sher also said that the industry was currently suffering at the hands of marketing campaigns.

"In my personal view, not more than 10 to 15% of projects completed in the Middle East have any semblance of quality," he said.

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"Most of the projects you see are just mass-produced."

Sher backed up his views by referring to how poor quality construction is exposed whenever the region suffers downpours of rain. "A friend of mine was having a shower, and as he switched the shower off, the outside wall just fell off - the wall fell off because it was a few days after the rain."

Sher added that at the recent Cityscape exhibition in Dubai, he had quizzed many of the exhibitors about the building projects they were promoting.

"I asked each developer to walk me through the lobby of the building they were promoting, but hardly 2% knew what the finishes would be in the lobby of the buildings," he said.

"My complaint is that marketing has spoiled the industry. At the moment, advertising people are pushing the real estate industry - this is the first thing that has to stop."

But Sher claimed the industry still had a positive future.

He said: "All it needs is four or five developers and four or five consultants to take the lead. Some of them are indulging in poor labour practices.

"I would like to see contractors saying to developers ‘we will not work with you because your approach is unethical'."

Bishoy Azmy, deputy general manager, Al Shafar General Contracting (ASGC), another speaker at the conference, disagreed with this view.

He said: "I think there are a lot of quality completed projects in the UAE. There is lots of money and so many of the buildings are new and of a very high standard. I am a strong advocate for the quality of buildings in the UAE, but maybe in other parts of the Middle East they are not so high."

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I know it is not Imre's camera... But the part of the Marina that is finished is so beautiful it's unbelievable!

Completely agree Pleth, and extremely popular too. Marina Walk is busy every single evening from what I can tell...

Lovely atmosphere.

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TRUE BLUE WE HAVE BOUGHT AN APRTMNET IN SHAMS 2 AND COMING OVER FOR XMAS - WHAT TIMES DO THE BUSES RUN ??

The article pasted above about the marketing issue highlights a very valid point. Why don't people in the industry get it into their thick skulls that drawing fancy pictures and creating fancy models is one thing, but actually creating and building these things is another. A glossy brochure really has nothing to do with bricks and mortar, but these brochures and the whole image thing is being peddled endlessly while there is a total disconnect with what actually may or may not happen on the ground.

These marketing divisions--Damac's chief among them, but even the likes of Emaar's--should be reduced to a fraction of what they are and these projects ought to be allowed (or forced) to sell on their own merit--once they are built or at least with real, walk-in models at a minimum. Like Sama Dubai and that glamorous model of the Lagoons, Jeez Building a model is one thing; making that stuff in reality is a whole different deal.

TRUE BLUE WE HAVE BOUGHT AN APRTMNET IN SHAMS 2 AND COMING OVER FOR XMAS - WHAT TIMES DO THE BUSES RUN ??

Sorry, this is not my area of expertise :)

I stumbled on the buses by pure chance, being right outside my apartment. When you are over, have a chat with one of the drivers and they will probably have all the answers and even a complimentary time table. There was always a bus parked, may be it can't leave until another one arrives :dunno:

Dubai is really being developed. Looks like another Europe :) Well what is the price of a 1000 yards plot in Dubai in an average area?? I am interested in shifting to Dubai....

18/December/2007

Dubai Marina - Jumeirah Lakes Towers, Interchange 5.5


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This interchange 5.5 is adjacent to MD2 Imre!
Could you get MD2 in perspective in any of your next picture updates on interchange 5.5!

Thanx.

^^ That could be difficult bacause he takes the pictures from the roof of MD2. :)

Well..... so it is!
I guess so..........

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nick L great pix thnx for sharing ...

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Dubai Marina Metro Station

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Dubai Marina , landscaping

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This interchange 5.5 is adjacent to MD2 Imre!
Could you get MD2 in perspective in any of your next picture updates on interchange 5.5!

Thanx.

for you:)

20/December/2007

Marina Diamond 2

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this realy takes me back to 04 when me and a buddy after a night of drinking would head down to the edge of the marina and dangle our feet over the side as the sun rose.

not so many buildings back then, but it was bliss...

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20/December/2007

Almas Tower, Dubai Marina , Jumeirah Lakes Towers , Discovery Gardens

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^^ :lol: They look like cute dolls houses in that photo.

Thanks for the pictures guys. Like your first one Nick.

Had a little chuckle at this one as this is how my guys dress when they are working in Scottish winter which is currently -3C daytime temp. Extra layers of clothing and a balaclava. :lol: and it's about 23C in Dubai, like our hottest summer.

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^^ 23C brrrrrrr, they must feel the cold in Dubai :lol:

today was cold , only 26:) last few days 28-30 , the sun is very strong.

In Germany we have -4 C today :llama:

When I was in Dubai begining of this month, the big seller in the malls was 15 Tog quilts.
It just shows how the human body changes in different climatic zones. I would have to sleep outside in the snow before I need 15 Tog. Must be all the extra layers of thick skin I have. :)

Also I noticed that good sellers are winter jackets and furs but these products are mostly sold for toursits who will to take them back home.

^^ Exactly ... but also local residents originally from cold climate countries, or who visit them frequently for work reasons.

When I was in Dubai begining of this month, the big seller in the malls was 15 Tog quilts.
It just shows how the human body changes in different climatic zones. I would have to sleep outside in the snow before I need 15 Tog. Must be all the extra layers of thick skin I have. :)

I've seen many visitors from cold climate countries, freezing like wet chickens when it drops to 20 at night, near the waterfront ... or inside shopping malls.


... getting a cold from the hotel room A/C fixed at 21 is a given also. :lol:

for you:)

20/December/2007

Marina Diamond 2




Really fine pictures... and nice weather too!!
Thanks Imre!:okay::)

One for Imre, who regularly gives us a shot of his car temperature display. :)

People often ask if I bought for investment and I often reply that it's for a place to go when the temperature in Scotland becomes unbearable.

Location; South of Glasgow. The temperature soared to a mid day high of -2Centigrade. Dubai Marina here I come for New Year, average daily 25Centigrade I hope.

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Any new pics from Grosvenor House the Residence 2 ?:bow::)

Hi All,
I am new to the property market in Dubai and I am thinking about buying a place in the Marina. I have a few questions/concerns about the final layout for the Marina which I am hoping someone has answers to.
1) Where are the Metro stops planned for? Have these been finalized? I know from driving down Sheikh Zayed that there are two signed stops (marina and JLT). Is there a third? How many pedestrian crossings will there be?
2)Access roads to Sheikh Zayed - As it stands it looks like there are only two access points to SKZ? I have heard there will a tunnel under the Marina Mall making it three? Is this true. I have that the Marina will house up to 300k people. If so, wont there be MAJOR traffic issues?
3) Are there any maps available with the final product incorporating the two above variables.

I work in the DIFC and I am looking to buy this as a home and not purely for investment purposes. However, my concern is getting in and out of the Marina in reasonable time.

Thanks in advance for any answers you can get me.

hi, and welcome on the SSC ,some answers:


Where are the Metro stops planned for?
--at the JLT site , opposite to Marina Diamonds 3,4,5,6 and opposite to the Horizon Tower

Have these been finalized?
---yes and U/C now

I know from driving down Sheikh Zayed that there are two signed stops (marina and JLT). Is there a third?
--third on is after the JLT , it is the Jumeirah Island Metro Station , that one also close to the marina

How many pedestrian crossings will there be?
--should be minimum 2 for the 2 metro stations , maybe more , I just think about an access for the Marina Mall from the JLT site

Access roads to Sheikh Zayed - As it stands it looks like there are only two access points to SKZ?
---3, Interchange 5, 5.5(still U/C),Marina Mall tunel (still not open)

I have heard there will a tunnel under the Marina Mall making it three?
--yes , tunel is done just waiting for the Marina Mall opening

Is this true. I have that the Marina will house up to 300k people. If so, wont there be MAJOR traffic issues?
-- i think the parking will be bigger problem than the traffic, if the all bridges and IC are ready traffic would be ok

Are there any maps available with the final product incorporating the two above variables.

I found only this map:
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I work in the DIFC and I am looking to buy this as a home and not purely for investment purposes. However, my concern is getting in and out of the Marina in reasonable time.
--- if you want to buy just hurry because prices going up every month...

What a thorough answer, Imre! 300K sounds like a high estimate. In any event, I don't see any problem getting in and out of the Marina with those two, very extensive interchanges. I think these will be able to handle the traffic but the trick will be for residents to figure out all the options and pick the one that works best for them. For example, when approaching from Dubai on SZR one can exit toward 1) Al Sufouh Road, 2) to the tallest block near MAG 218 or 3) toward the Marina station. Don't like these, then one can exit earlier to 4) a different Al Sufouh Rd. feeder or 5) further up to Marina Mall, once that entryway is open. So, that makes up 5 approaches from Dubai when taking SZR. Once the new Interchange is open there ought to be 3 or 4 more options.

Later, you add the metro and tram and I don't think there will be any issue getting in and out. Furthermore, you'll never get a population density in Dubai Marina like that of Deira or Bur Dubai, where you have people crowded into flats. Those towers in Dubai Marina will probably reach only half-occupancy at any given time.

By way of comparison, there is only a single entry into Abu Dhabi from SZR, which is seldom crowded. For all of Abu Dhabi, which is an island there are only two entry/exits across two bridges, and the second of these was opened only a few years ago.

When I hear people express worry about how people will get on to the Palm with it's single entry way, I think come on--even there you have an entry way as substantial as Abu Dhabi's, and in due time the monorail will mean fewer people taking the road option.

What a thorough answer, Imre! 300K sounds like a high estimate. In any event, I don't see any problem getting in and out of the Marina with those two, very extensive interchanges. I think these will be able to handle the traffic but the trick will be for residents to figure out all the options and pick the one that works best for them. For example, when approaching from Dubai on SZR one can exit toward 1) Al Sufouh Road, 2) to the tallest block near MAG 218 or 3) toward the Marina station. Don't like these, then one can exit earlier to 4) a different Al Sufouh Rd. feeder or 5) further up to Marina Mall, once that entryway is open. So, that makes up 5 approaches from Dubai when taking SZR. Once the new Interchange is open there ought to be 3 or 4 more options.

Later, you add the metro and tram and I don't think there will be any issue getting in and out. Furthermore, you'll never get a population density in Dubai Marina like that of Deira or Bur Dubai, where you have people crowded into flats. Those towers in Dubai Marina will probably reach only half-occupancy at any given time.

By way of comparison, there is only a single entry into Abu Dhabi from SZR, which is seldom crowded. For all of Abu Dhabi, which is an island there are only two entry/exits across two bridges, and the second of these was opened only a few years ago.

When I hear people express worry about how people will get on to the Palm with it's single entry way, I think come on--even there you have an entry way as substantial as Abu Dhabi's, and in due time the monorail will mean fewer people taking the road option. I am Very interested in all the info about the transport infrastructure chaps thanks for that , but how do we get across SZR from Marina Diamonds on foot to reach the Metro ? OR is there a walking subway underneath/bridge foortpath OR is the tram way in the Marina going to link up with the metro at JLT ?
Anybody know if the METRO and Tramline projects are on schedule ?

here are the metro plans.

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^^ They appear very much on schedule, due for a 9/9/2009 opening. Various station images depict passages over the highway. These will thankfully not only make for easy access to the trains from the opposite side of the highway, but hopefully they'll be open to free use by pedestrians not using the trains. One thing Dubai sorely lacks are pedestrian overpasses/underpasses. The metro will mean a couple dozen of these across the city. The trams will all have their own stops, maybe air-conditioned like the new bus stops. I would expect there will be one right at the bridge to the metro. When you add water taxis and busses, together with the trams and metro, public transport should be so much fun in Dubai you won't want to have a car! But then, it'll also be a lot of fun doing all the ramps, overpasses and tunnels on the expressways.

Wow, great info! Thanks for all of that. Especially like the Metro maps/plans.

IF you work in DIFC then i realy would not advise the marina.

there is and will be so much traffic, even with the metro. maybe try the old town, or perhaps one of the creek developments?

I agree with Dubai - rush hour isn't fun in either direction around the marina. Remains to be seen what effect the metro will have, however.

Don't forget there is also a tram service which will take you to a metro station ... there's a map of its route somewhere!

glover - fantastic plans! Where did you get them from?

Dewa denies plan to raise tariffs

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The Dubai Electricity and Water Authority (Dewa) yesterday denied plans to increase tariffs to fund its US$19 billion expansion. Saeed Al Tayer, managing director and CEO of Dewa, said: "We are talking about future investments and not the short-term plan. Dewa's strategy of funding is to consider practical means of funding including cost-effectiveness." He said Dewa is working as per government strategy and has its master plans up to 2017 along with associated plans for funding infrastructure expansion. (Gulf News)

here are the metro plans.

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Thanks Glover TOO MUCH info now - LOL !! - I personally think the Metro etc will solve The traffic probelms in Dubai AND improve prospects for property values longer term even when supply exceeds demand (in 2010 ?) It will make the Marina more desirable for commuter.s to Difc and Business Bay etc and with marina prices beimg that much lower (at present) than Old Town etc could have a good affect on appreciation (hope so anyway I have few investments in Marina

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thats just beautiful

Hm...isn't that pic close/in the direction of Emirates Hills?

Looks like its from one of Emaar's 'golf view' apartment blocks to me. I believe the 'Greens' residences are to the left.