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devil_mind
August 6th, 2006, 04:14 AM
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تحت اسم 'الجابر'ِِ بارتفاع 1852 مترا
أطول برج في العالم.. فكرة إيطالية برسم الكويت
تحت اسم 'الجابر'ِِ بارتفاع 1852 مترا
أطول برج في العالم.. فكرة إيطالية برسم الكويت

كتب محسن السيد:
ابراج الكويت، برج التحرير معالم بارزة ترتبط بها دائما صورة الكويت الذهنية: هكذا ظلت لفترة طويلة وستبقى، بيد ان معلما معماريا فريدا عما قريب سيشمخ في سماء الكويت لتصبح معالم الدولة البارزة اكثر عددا: ابراج الكويت، برج التحرير وبرج جابر، وهذا الأخير هو الاسم الذي اطلقه اصحاب فكرة بناء اطول برج معماري في العالم سيبنى هنا على ارض الكويت، تيمنا باسم المغفور له، بإذن الله، الامير الراحل الشيخ جابر الاحمد الصباح ودوره في نهضة الكويت الحديثة.
المشروع الآن في طور الفكرة.. الفكرة القابلة للتنفيذ، والبداية كانت عندما التقى فن التصميم والابداع الايطالي الرفيع عبر احد اشهر المهندسين المعماريين الايطاليين اوميرو مارتشيتي بالطموح الكويتي من خلال رجل الاعمال البحريني عبدالعزيز البوعينين الذي يستثمر في الكويت منذ فترة طويلة، حيث اتفقا على ان تحتضن الكويت هذه الفكرة الايطالية ببناء اطول ناطحة سحاب في العالم، يؤلف بينهما جاهزية وتعطش البنية الكويتية لهذه المشاريع العملاقة.

'القبس' التقت رجل الاعمال عبدالعزيز البوعينين محتضن ومسوق الفكرة في الكويت، وصاحب الفكرة مهندس التصميم المعماري اوميرو مارتشيتي الذي كان في زيارة الكويت، ليرويا مسار هذه الفكرة.
20 عاما من العلاقة
يقول البوعينين ان علاقته بالسوق الايطالي تزيد على عقدين من الزمن، حيث اخذت علاقاته تتسع في هذا السوق الى ان التقى مهندس التصميم المعماري مارتشيتي قبل نحو شهرين الذي كان يحمل فكرة اولية لمشروع بناء اطول برج في العالم ولديه رغبة وطموح في ان ينفذ هذه الفكرة في منطقة الخليج، لا سيما ان مارتشيتي لديه دراسة وافية عن منطقة الخليج واقتصاداتها، فأراد ان يطور شيئا من خططه ومشاريعه في تلك المنطقة، والذي تبلور في هذا البرج المعماري، واختار ان ينفذ هذا المشروع في الكويت بعد ان التقيته واقنعته بأن الكويت هي البيئة الامثل بين دول الخليج لتنفيذ هذا المشروع.
احتياج وتشبع
واضاف قائلا: ازداد اقتناع المهندس الايطالي بالكويت بعد ان قدمت له المعلومات والدراسات الوافية عن طبيعة السوق الكويتي، ومدى احتياجه لمثل هذه المشاريع العقارية في مقابل تشبع غالبية الاسواق الخليجية المجاورة.
ومضى البوعينين قائلا: بعد نحو شهرين يعود مارتشيتي مجددا الى الكويت حيث وصل قبل نحو اربعة ايام للمضي قدما باتجاه اتخاذ خطوات تنفيذية جادة لهذا المشروع بعد ان اصبحت الفكرة الفنينة واضحة على الورق.
واوضح البوعينين ان دراسة الجدوى الفنية الخاصة بالمشروع ستكون جاهزة خلال ثلاثة اشهر للموافقة عليها كمشروع وليس كترخيص بناء، بالتوازي مع هذه الخطوة وفي الوقت نفسه سنفتح المجال امام المستثمرين للتقدم وتبني هذا المشروع، ومن هنا فإن المستثمرين مدعوون من الآن للتقدم وتبني هذا المشروع.
مرحلة التصاميم
واضاف قائلا: خلال هذه المرحلة وبعد الحصول على الموافقة على دراسة الجدوى الفنية، سواء تبنت احدى الجهات او بعض المستثمرين المشروع، وتم توقيع العقود او لم يتقدم احد، سنبدأ في اعداد التصاميم والمخططات والمواصفات والكميات وهي المرحلة التي ستستغرق نحو عامين ليتسنى التقدم للجهات الحكومية المعنية للحصول على ترخيص البناء وقد تستغرق عملية الحصول على الموافقات نحو عام، على ان تستغرق مرحلة تنفيذ المشروع بين 3 الى 4 سنوات..
واشار البوعينين الى ان دورهم مع هذا المشروع سيستمر في المراحل اللاحقة مع المستثمر او متبني المشروع.
الأطول في العالم
ولفت الى ان البرج المعماري الذي يصل ارتفاعه الى 1852 مترا سيكون بمثابة مدينة خدماتية متكاملة حيث سيضم المشروع 'مول' تجاريا ومكاتب وفنادق واندية صحية وغيرها من الخدمات المتكاملة بالاضافة الى الوحدات السكنية.. سيكون المشروع مدينة افقية متكاملة.
واكد البوعينين ان فكرة المشروع اذا ما لاقت الاستحسان وحصلت على الموافقات المطلوبة تكون فعليا قد جاءت في الوقت المناسب في الكويت، في ضوء الازدهار الاقتصادي الذي تعيشه البلاد حاليا والانفتاح الاقتصادي الكبير الذي يقوده سمو امير البلاد الشيخ صباح الاحمد والدعوة الى تحويل الكويت لمركز مالي، مشيرا الى ان هذه التوجهات يتعين ان تتواكب مع تشييد مشاريع كبرى تتناسب وطبيعة هذه المرحلة.
مصمم الفكرة
اما المهندس المعماري الايطالي اوميرو مارتشيتي من مكتب 'داوربان ديغيلو بينغ اند بلانينغ' صاحب ومصمم فكرة المشروع، فيقول انه زار الكويت قبل نحو سبعة اشهر والتقى صديقه عبدالعزيز البوعينين حيث التقت افكارهما على ضرورة تنفيذ مشروع معماري فريد في الكويت التي يمكن ان تستقبل بالفعل هذا المشروع.
واضاف قائلا: حينما اتيت الى الكويت سألني العديد من اصدقائي هل تروق لك ابراج دبي وناطحات السحاب الموجودة في الخليج، فقلت انها جميلة لكنها لا تعكس ثقافة وحضارة هذه المنطقة من العالم التي تتمتع بثقافة وحضارة ثرية.. انتم اصحاب حضارة ضاربة في عمق الزمن السحيق، وعندها بالفعل تملكتني رغبة بأنني اريد ان اصمم شيئا لهذه المنطقة يأخذ كل هذه الاعتبارات.. شيئا فريدا ومميزا، فصممت فكرة هذا البرج وعندما عرض علي صديقي عبدالعزيز ان ننفذ هذا المشروع في الكويت رحبت بهذا العرض لأنني اتوقع ان تكون اصداء هذا المشروع هنا افضل من اي مكان آخر.
دبي تشبعت
وردا على سؤال حول اختيار الكويت من بين مناطق خليجية اخرى لا سيما دبي التي قد يلقى فيها تسهيلات اكثر، قال مارتشيتي السوق في دبي متشبع الآن بالابراج الشاهقة، وهذا المشروع في الكويت قد يشكل قيمة مضافة اكبر.
واضاف قائلا: سنبدأ ببناء شيء ليس ضخما بل منطقي، سنبني شيئا لا يعتمد على الغاز والنفط هذه المرة.. باعتقادي ان هذا البرج ليس تحديا للأكبر او الاضخم وانما هو تحديا للعظمة.. ان الحضارة بدأت هنا قبل اكثر من عشرة الاف سنة ثم انتقلت الى الغرب واسست للعالم الجديد وربما اليوم هي تعود الى هنا مرة اخرى.. اننا لن نبني منشأة نفطية ولكننا نقدم شيئا للأجيال.
واشار مارتشيتي الى ان هذا البرج سيساهم في تحسين حركة السياحة اذ سيعد مزارا سياحيا هاما في حال اكتمال بنائه باعتباره البرج الاعلى في العالم اضافة الى تفرد تصميمي، لذا آمل ان نكون قادرين على بنائه في الوقت المناسب.

برج جابر .. والحرير
اشار البوعينين الى ان 'برج جابر' يعد الاطول في العالم بارتفاع 1852 مترا يليه احد الابراج التي ستبنى في مدينة الحرير بارتفاع 1001 متر، ثم برج دبي بارتفاع 800 متر، ثم برج غولدن دوم بارتفاع 455 مترا.

علم الكويت.. وعلم إيطاليا
قال مار تشيتي ان ابرز ما جذبه للسوق الكويتي هو التشابه الكبير بين طبيعتي الشعبين الكويتي والايطالي، فالشعب الكويتي ودود ومضياف ومبتسم، كما انه شعب عملي يفضل الاستثمار المحسوب وهو شعب يحب السفر والاطلاع.. واضاف مبتسما: ربما هناك ايضا سبب اخر وهو تشابه الوان العلمين الكويتي والايطالي.

ترخيص ل 100 برج و88 فندقا
اكد عبدالعزيز البوعينين ان الكويت بحاجة ماسة الى المشاريع العقارية الكبرى، مشيرا الى ان الجهات الرسمية تدرك ذلك بدليل حصول نحو 100 برج معماري على تراخيص، في الوقت ذاته هناك ترخيص لنحو 88 فندقا في الكويت، منها عشرون تحت الانشاء.

التحدي الكبير
قال المهندس الايطالي اوميرو مارتشيتي ان الهندسة المعمارية في الامارات بلغت حاليا اقصى درجات العصرية والحداثة كما حدث في الفن القوطي المعماري في فلورنسا، لكن هنا في الكويت يمكن ان نبدأ موسما جديدا وعصرا جديدا للنهضة، ولمواجهة هذا التحدي لا تكفي التكنولوجيا ولا الفخامة او الضخامة نحن بحاجة لان نبدأ من فكرة اصلية وجديدة.. نحن نواجه تحديا يستند على القيم والثقافة والطابع المتفرد لهذه الأرض.

2nd chance
August 6th, 2006, 05:33 AM
Oh GOD... Here we go again !!

Wait wait.. De-ja vou here.. Mubarak Al-Kabeer Tower !?!? City of Silk ?!?!

Excuse me for being pessimistic, but i don't buy it..
I mean i'd love to see something like this being built in Kuwait, but.. when it comes to talking.. we, Kuwaities are the BEST !!

I can imagine the headlines in Kuwaiti newspapers in 5 months time..
"Sabah Al-Ahmad Tower, New World's Tallest In Kuwait, 1000 Stories !!"

and after 2 years..
"Ahmad Al-Fahad Tower, New World's Tallest In Kuwait (This time we're serious), 2500 Stories, "Tip" Only 10 Minutes Away From Moon !!"

This keeps going over, and over, and over, and over ....

devil_mind
August 6th, 2006, 07:29 AM
Oh GOD... Here we go again !!

Wait wait.. De-ja vou here.. Mubarak Al-Kabeer Tower !?!? City of Silk ?!?!

Excuse me for being pessimistic, but i don't buy it..
I mean i'd love to see something like this being built in Kuwait, but.. when it comes to talking.. we, Kuwaities are the BEST !!

I can imagine the headlines in Kuwaiti newspapers in 5 months time..
"Sabah Al-Ahmad Tower, New World's Tallest In Kuwait, 1000 Stories !!"

and after 2 years..
"Ahmad Al-Fahad Tower, New World's Tallest In Kuwait (This time we're serious), 2500 Stories, "Tip" Only 10 Minutes Away From Moon !!"

This keeps going over, and over, and over, and over ....

lol :bash:
i know its kuwait hehe
i stoped beliving too :p
and plus couldnt they think of some cool names for the make up towers
i mean WTF stop naming them after al sabah family its getting annoying

ahmedjam
August 6th, 2006, 09:22 AM
Oh GOD... Here we go again !!

Wait wait.. De-ja vou here.. Mubarak Al-Kabeer Tower !?!? City of Silk ?!?!

Excuse me for being pessimistic, but i don't buy it..
I mean i'd love to see something like this being built in Kuwait, but.. when it comes to talking.. we, Kuwaities are the BEST !!

I can imagine the headlines in Kuwaiti newspapers in 5 months time..
"Sabah Al-Ahmad Tower, New World's Tallest In Kuwait, 1000 Stories !!"

and after 2 years..
"Ahmad Al-Fahad Tower, New World's Tallest In Kuwait (This time we're serious), 2500 Stories, "Tip" Only 10 Minutes Away From Moon !!"

This keeps going over, and over, and over, and over ....
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL the reason of why are this towers not getting built is al-subah family name !!!!!!!

I'm not buying it at all :bash:

Foxtrot
August 6th, 2006, 09:53 AM
This is just a dream .. from dream to make it a reality .. long way to go .. I wish all the best for this dream !!

safqa_tijariya
August 6th, 2006, 11:36 AM
wow.... i wish they get serious on this one... I don't care about the name cause we can always have a rename but we cant always build a tower like that one!!! let them first build it :) then we wil argue about a name...

Man thats a hell of a tower... is it a vision or ''supposed'' to be a proposal?

btw guys... kuwaitis always materialize their dreams.. we talk and we do...

CrazY
August 6th, 2006, 01:01 PM
i like it ;) if you read the article you'll see that its very serious
the investor said they will get the approval in 1 year and the building will be completed in 3 to 4 years :runaway:
and a project that big i think they'll go directly to the emir for the approvals ;)
the italian Architect now is in kuwait and will come again in 2 months, at the end the bahraini investor said about 100 towers and 88 hotels got approvals.

q8_shaggy_17
August 6th, 2006, 01:08 PM
تحت اسم 'الجابر'ِِ بارتفاع 1852 مترا
أطول برج في العالم.. فكرة إيطالية برسم الكويت

مجسم برج الجابر الأطول على مستوى ناطحات السحاب في العالم
http://www.alqabas.com.kw/Final/NewspaperWebsite/NewspaperBackOffice/ArticlesPictures/6-8-

06/08/2006 كتب محسن السيد:
ابراج الكويت، برج التحرير معالم بارزة ترتبط بها دائما صورة الكويت الذهنية: هكذا ظلت لفترة طويلة وستبقى، بيد ان معلما معماريا فريدا عما قريب سيشمخ في سماء الكويت لتصبح معالم الدولة البارزة اكثر عددا: ابراج الكويت، برج التحرير وبرج جابر، وهذا الأخير هو الاسم الذي اطلقه اصحاب فكرة بناء اطول برج معماري في العالم سيبنى هنا على ارض الكويت، تيمنا باسم المغفور له، بإذن الله، الامير الراحل الشيخ جابر الاحمد الصباح ودوره في نهضة الكويت الحديثة.
المشروع الآن في طور الفكرة.. الفكرة القابلة للتنفيذ، والبداية كانت عندما التقى فن التصميم والابداع الايطالي الرفيع عبر احد اشهر المهندسين المعماريين الايطاليين اوميرو مارتشيتي بالطموح الكويتي من خلال رجل الاعمال البحريني عبدالعزيز البوعينين الذي يستثمر في الكويت منذ فترة طويلة، حيث اتفقا على ان تحتضن الكويت هذه الفكرة الايطالية ببناء اطول ناطحة سحاب في العالم، يؤلف بينهما جاهزية وتعطش البنية الكويتية لهذه المشاريع العملاقة.

'القبس' التقت رجل الاعمال عبدالعزيز البوعينين محتضن ومسوق الفكرة في الكويت، وصاحب الفكرة مهندس التصميم المعماري اوميرو مارتشيتي الذي كان في زيارة الكويت، ليرويا مسار هذه الفكرة.
20 عاما من العلاقة
يقول البوعينين ان علاقته بالسوق الايطالي تزيد على عقدين من الزمن، حيث اخذت علاقاته تتسع في هذا السوق الى ان التقى مهندس التصميم المعماري مارتشيتي قبل نحو شهرين الذي كان يحمل فكرة اولية لمشروع بناء اطول برج في العالم ولديه رغبة وطموح في ان ينفذ هذه الفكرة في منطقة الخليج، لا سيما ان مارتشيتي لديه دراسة وافية عن منطقة الخليج واقتصاداتها، فأراد ان يطور شيئا من خططه ومشاريعه في تلك المنطقة، والذي تبلور في هذا البرج المعماري، واختار ان ينفذ هذا المشروع في الكويت بعد ان التقيته واقنعته بأن الكويت هي البيئة الامثل بين دول الخليج لتنفيذ هذا المشروع.
احتياج وتشبع
واضاف قائلا: ازداد اقتناع المهندس الايطالي بالكويت بعد ان قدمت له المعلومات والدراسات الوافية عن طبيعة السوق الكويتي، ومدى احتياجه لمثل هذه المشاريع العقارية في مقابل تشبع غالبية الاسواق الخليجية المجاورة.
ومضى البوعينين قائلا: بعد نحو شهرين يعود مارتشيتي مجددا الى الكويت حيث وصل قبل نحو اربعة ايام للمضي قدما باتجاه اتخاذ خطوات تنفيذية جادة لهذا المشروع بعد ان اصبحت الفكرة الفنينة واضحة على الورق.
واوضح البوعينين ان دراسة الجدوى الفنية الخاصة بالمشروع ستكون جاهزة خلال ثلاثة اشهر للموافقة عليها كمشروع وليس كترخيص بناء، بالتوازي مع هذه الخطوة وفي الوقت نفسه سنفتح المجال امام المستثمرين للتقدم وتبني هذا المشروع، ومن هنا فإن المستثمرين مدعوون من الآن للتقدم وتبني هذا المشروع.
مرحلة التصاميم
واضاف قائلا: خلال هذه المرحلة وبعد الحصول على الموافقة على دراسة الجدوى الفنية، سواء تبنت احدى الجهات او بعض المستثمرين المشروع، وتم توقيع العقود او لم يتقدم احد، سنبدأ في اعداد التصاميم والمخططات والمواصفات والكميات وهي المرحلة التي ستستغرق نحو عامين ليتسنى التقدم للجهات الحكومية المعنية للحصول على ترخيص البناء وقد تستغرق عملية الحصول على الموافقات نحو عام، على ان تستغرق مرحلة تنفيذ المشروع بين 3 الى 4 سنوات..
واشار البوعينين الى ان دورهم مع هذا المشروع سيستمر في المراحل اللاحقة مع المستثمر او متبني المشروع.
الأطول في العالم
ولفت الى ان البرج المعماري الذي يصل ارتفاعه الى 1852 مترا سيكون بمثابة مدينة خدماتية متكاملة حيث سيضم المشروع 'مول' تجاريا ومكاتب وفنادق واندية صحية وغيرها من الخدمات المتكاملة بالاضافة الى الوحدات السكنية.. سيكون المشروع مدينة افقية متكاملة.
واكد البوعينين ان فكرة المشروع اذا ما لاقت الاستحسان وحصلت على الموافقات المطلوبة تكون فعليا قد جاءت في الوقت المناسب في الكويت، في ضوء الازدهار الاقتصادي الذي تعيشه البلاد حاليا والانفتاح الاقتصادي الكبير الذي يقوده سمو امير البلاد الشيخ صباح الاحمد والدعوة الى تحويل الكويت لمركز مالي، مشيرا الى ان هذه التوجهات يتعين ان تتواكب مع تشييد مشاريع كبرى تتناسب وطبيعة هذه المرحلة.
مصمم الفكرة
اما المهندس المعماري الايطالي اوميرو مارتشيتي من مكتب 'داوربان ديغيلو بينغ اند بلانينغ' صاحب ومصمم فكرة المشروع، فيقول انه زار الكويت قبل نحو سبعة اشهر والتقى صديقه عبدالعزيز البوعينين حيث التقت افكارهما على ضرورة تنفيذ مشروع معماري فريد في الكويت التي يمكن ان تستقبل بالفعل هذا المشروع.
واضاف قائلا: حينما اتيت الى الكويت سألني العديد من اصدقائي هل تروق لك ابراج دبي وناطحات السحاب الموجودة في الخليج، فقلت انها جميلة لكنها لا تعكس ثقافة وحضارة هذه المنطقة من العالم التي تتمتع بثقافة وحضارة ثرية.. انتم اصحاب حضارة ضاربة في عمق الزمن السحيق، وعندها بالفعل تملكتني رغبة بأنني اريد ان اصمم شيئا لهذه المنطقة يأخذ كل هذه الاعتبارات.. شيئا فريدا ومميزا، فصممت فكرة هذا البرج وعندما عرض علي صديقي عبدالعزيز ان ننفذ هذا المشروع في الكويت رحبت بهذا العرض لأنني اتوقع ان تكون اصداء هذا المشروع هنا افضل من اي مكان آخر.
دبي تشبعت
وردا على سؤال حول اختيار الكويت من بين مناطق خليجية اخرى لا سيما دبي التي قد يلقى فيها تسهيلات اكثر، قال مارتشيتي السوق في دبي متشبع الآن بالابراج الشاهقة، وهذا المشروع في الكويت قد يشكل قيمة مضافة اكبر.
واضاف قائلا: سنبدأ ببناء شيء ليس ضخما بل منطقي، سنبني شيئا لا يعتمد على الغاز والنفط هذه المرة.. باعتقادي ان هذا البرج ليس تحديا للأكبر او الاضخم وانما هو تحديا للعظمة.. ان الحضارة بدأت هنا قبل اكثر من عشرة الاف سنة ثم انتقلت الى الغرب واسست للعالم الجديد وربما اليوم هي تعود الى هنا مرة اخرى.. اننا لن نبني منشأة نفطية ولكننا نقدم شيئا للأجيال.
واشار مارتشيتي الى ان هذا البرج سيساهم في تحسين حركة السياحة اذ سيعد مزارا سياحيا هاما في حال اكتمال بنائه باعتباره البرج الاعلى في العالم اضافة الى تفرد تصميمي، لذا آمل ان نكون قادرين على بنائه في الوقت المناسب.

برج جابر .. والحرير
اشار البوعينين الى ان 'برج جابر' يعد الاطول في العالم بارتفاع 1852 مترا يليه احد الابراج التي ستبنى في مدينة الحرير بارتفاع 1001 متر، ثم برج دبي بارتفاع 800 متر، ثم برج غولدن دوم بارتفاع 455 مترا.

علم الكويت.. وعلم إيطاليا
قال مار تشيتي ان ابرز ما جذبه للسوق الكويتي هو التشابه الكبير بين طبيعتي الشعبين الكويتي والايطالي، فالشعب الكويتي ودود ومضياف ومبتسم، كما انه شعب عملي يفضل الاستثمار المحسوب وهو شعب يحب السفر والاطلاع.. واضاف مبتسما: ربما هناك ايضا سبب اخر وهو تشابه الوان العلمين الكويتي والايطالي.

ترخيص ل 100 برج و88 فندقا
اكد عبدالعزيز البوعينين ان الكويت بحاجة ماسة الى المشاريع العقارية الكبرى، مشيرا الى ان الجهات الرسمية تدرك ذلك بدليل حصول نحو 100 برج معماري على تراخيص، في الوقت ذاته هناك ترخيص لنحو 88 فندقا في الكويت، منها عشرون تحت الانشاء.

التحدي الكبير
قال المهندس الايطالي اوميرو مارتشيتي ان الهندسة المعمارية في الامارات بلغت حاليا اقصى درجات العصرية والحداثة كما حدث في الفن القوطي المعماري في فلورنسا، لكن هنا في الكويت يمكن ان نبدأ موسما جديدا وعصرا جديدا للنهضة، ولمواجهة هذا التحدي لا تكفي التكنولوجيا ولا الفخامة او الضخامة نحن بحاجة لان نبدأ من فكرة اصلية وجديدة.. نحن نواجه تحديا يستند على القيم والثقافة والطابع المتفرد لهذه الأرض.

q8_shaggy_17
August 6th, 2006, 01:11 PM
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Skoulikimou
August 6th, 2006, 01:33 PM
to me this dont seem to be a serious project it more like caring for attention project instead of wasting vast amount of mony on some stupid tower they should invested more in kuwait infrastructure :sleepy:

BTW the design look childish and ugly

ChaoticTranquility
August 6th, 2006, 01:34 PM
one question: why are we naming all of our landmarks after the royal family?

no offense to them or anything, but they don't really do so much so as to approve these projects. i mean, the Subiya Causeway was renamed the Jaber Al-Ahmad Causeway, and the tower at Madinat Al Hareer is now the Mubarak Al Kabeer Tower, and now THIS? yeesh, get original. Tower of the East, Burj Kuwait (in all boring repetitiveness), Tower of the Orient... the possibilities are endless.

the tower's design is spectacular, it would be amazing to see this thing take the title of the World's Tallest with style. but seeing it's Kuwait, it'll either be a dream or they'll break ground and it'll stay that way for years. i hope it works.

by the way, can someone translate the articles? and where is this tower to be built, here or at Madinat Al Hareer?

thanks.

kuwaiti_patriot

Skoulikimou
August 6th, 2006, 01:41 PM
Under the name 'Al-Jaber' altitudes of 1852 meters

06/08/2006 Mr. Mohsen wrote :
Kuwait Towers, Burj Liberation milestones are always Kuwait mental picture : Thus for a long time
and will remain, However, the unique architectural monuments milestone shortly Sishamkh sky in the State of Kuwait to become more salient features of a number : towers of Kuwait, Liberation Tower, Tower Jaber, and the latter was named by the owners of the idea of building the longest tower architect in the world will be built here in the land of Kuwait, after the name of late, with the permission of God, the late Amir, Sheikh Jaber Al-Ahmad Al-Sabah and its role in the renaissance of modern Kuwait.
The project is now in the idea. The idea viable. Initially, when we met with the art design and creativity Italian high-one months architects Italians Omirou Martchetti ambitious Kuwaiti through businessman Bahraini Abdul Aziz Al-Boainain which invests in Kuwait for a long period of time, where they agreed to embrace this idea Kuwait Italian Sahab skyscraper built longest in the world. writing between preparedness and thirst of Kuwaiti these giant enterprises.

'Al' met businessman Abdel Aziz Al-Boainain Mahtdhan The latter idea in Kuwait. His idea architectural design engineer Omirou Martchetti who was visiting Kuwait, Liroya course this idea.
20-year relationship
Al-Boainain says that the relationship with the Italian market more than two decades. where relations have been expanding in this market to be met with the architect architectural design Martchetti approximately two months ago, which was carrying a preliminary idea of building a tower longest in the world and have the desire and ambition to implement this idea in the Gulf. especially since Martchetti have a thorough study on the Gulf region and their economies, wanted to develop some plans and projects in the region, which crystallized in the tower architectural, It has chosen to implement this project in Kuwait after Alteketh and convinced that Kuwait is the ideal environment between the Gulf states to implement this project.
Requirement and saturation
He added : increased conviction Italian engineer in Kuwait after he was given adequate information and studies on the nature of the Kuwaiti market. and the need for such projects in the real estate market for the majority of saturation Gulf neighbors.
In Al-Boainain said : After about two months back Martchetti back to Kuwait where he arrived four days ago to move towards serious operational steps for the project after it became clear idea Alvninh on paper.
He explained that Al-Boainain technical feasibility study for the project will be ready within three months of project approval, not Ktorkis building, Parallel with this step and at the same time open the way for investors to progress and build this project, Hence, investors are invited to the progress and build this project.
Design phase
He added : During this phase, after obtaining the approval of the feasibility study art, Whether one embraced by some investors, the project was signed contracts or none. we will begin to prepare designs, plans, specifications, quantities and is the stage at which it will take approximately two years so that progress government bodies concerned to obtain a permit and construction may take the process of obtaining approvals generally, However, the implementation phase of the project will last between 3 to 4 years.
He pointed out that Al-Boainain role with the project will continue in the subsequent phases with the investor or sponsors.
Longest in the world
He pointed out that the architectural tower up to a height of 1852 meters will serve as a city service as an integrated project will comprise 'funded' commercial offices, hotels, health clubs and other integrated services in addition to housing units. Project will be integrated horizontal city.
Al-Boainain emphasized that the idea of the project if it met with approval and obtained the requisite approvals may actually be timely in Kuwait. In light of the economic prosperity experienced by the country's economic openness is currently led by the great Emir His Highness Sheikh Sabah Al-Ahmad Al-country advocacy center to transform Kuwait Mali, He pointed out that this orientation should coincide with the construction of major projects commensurate with the nature of this stage.
Designer idea
The Italian architect Omirou Martchetti Office 'Durban Digilo Ping & Blaning' owner and designer idea of the project, He says that he had visited Kuwait seven months ago and met a friend where she met with Abdul Aziz Al-Boainain reflections on the need for implementation of a unique architect in Kuwait, which can actually receive this project.
He added : When I came to Kuwait Many friends asked me whether you taste towers and skyscrapers cloud Dubai in the Gulf, I told beautiful, but it does not reflect the culture and civilization of this region of the world which enjoy a rich culture and civilization. You are the owners of civilization strike deep into deep time, then actually Tmlktne desire that I want to Asmm something this region takes all of these considerations. Something unique and distinctive. I was determined idea of the tower and when presented to Abdul Aziz Siddiqui to implement this project in Kuwait welcomed the offer because I expect that this project will be repercussions here better than anywhere else.
Dubai saturated
In response to a question about the selection of Kuwait, among many other Gulf especially Dubai, which has the facilities to receive more, He Martchetti market in Dubai behavior now Balabraj high, and this project in Kuwait has a greater added value.
He added : we will start to build something big, but not logical, we will build something that did not depend on oil and gas this time. I believe that this is not a challenge to the larger tower, but the biggest challenge is to greatness. Civilization began here more than 10,041 years and then moved to the West and founded the new world and perhaps today is returning here again. We will not build a petroleum plant, but we offer something for generations.
Martchetti pointed out that the tower would contribute to the improvement of tourism as an important tourist visiting will be in the event of the completion of construction as the highest tower in the world, added to the uniqueness of design. So I hope that we will be able to build in a timely manner.

Jaber tower. Silk
Al-Boainain pointed out that the 'tower Jaber' is the longest in the world at an altitude of 1852 meters, followed by one of the towers which will be built in the city at an altitude of 1001 metres of silk. Then Burj Dubai altitudes of 800 meters, and then Golden Dom tower 455 meters high.

Kuwait flag. The flag of Italy
Mar Chitty said that the main attraction of the Kuwaiti market is the considerable similarities between the nature of the peoples of Kuwait and the Italian The people of Kuwait and friendly and hospitable and Mptsm, and the people prefer practical investment calculated a people who loves to travel and learn. Smiling, he added : Perhaps there is also another reason for the similarity would Kuwaiti flags and Italian.

Licensing for 100 Tower, 88 hotels
The Abdel-Aziz Al-Boainain Kuwait dire need of major real estate projects. He pointed out that the official was aware that the proof that some 100 Tower architect permits, At the same time, there are approximately 88 licensed hotels in Kuwait, including the under-construction.

Great challenge
Eng Italian Omirou Martchetti to Architecture in the United Arab Emirates, is currently the most modern and degrees of modernity as in the gothic architectural art in Florence, But here in Kuwait could start a new season and a new era for revival. To meet this challenge is not enough technology, not Excellency or magnitude we need to start from the idea of the original and new. We are faced with a challenge based on the values, culture and the uniqueness of this land.
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Skoulikimou
August 6th, 2006, 02:04 PM
one question: why are we naming all of our landmarks after the royal family?
ego satisfaction :uh:

Skoulikimou
August 6th, 2006, 02:19 PM
i run a search in google looking for this called Omirou Martchetti "the architect".......and guess what ? i found nothing about him , clearly as it appear this guy is fame seeker/gold digger

Omirou Martchetti
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q8_shaggy_17
August 6th, 2006, 03:24 PM
skouli, thats not how u spell his name, it's like this "Amero Marchetti"
try 2 search 4 him again

ChaoticTranquility
August 6th, 2006, 04:40 PM
hey people:

the rendering of the tower shows the name of the architect: Omero Marchetti. it's small, but it's there.

i ran a search myself. either he's a gold digger or fame seeker as Skoulikimou put it, or maybe he's just not a reputed architect. who knows, it's not the first time Kuwait turns to something like this.

for all we care, this tower is most probably going to remain as a trophy that Kuwait can build sky-high since we have the finance and capability, but we don't have the will. whatev, we're falling very far behind. we're no competition to corporate Dubai, tag-along Doha, or up-and-coming Bahrain. even Saudi Arabia, who we ridicule as being the farthest behind, has just launched the King Abdullah Economic City north of Jeddah. they're all changing rapidly while we're taking our own sweet time. we need a reform, Kuwait has so much it can do; we can be even better than Dubai (but without all the glass-and-steel they have though, that's been BADLY overdone).

on the bright(er) side, Kuwait has more personality than the rest of the Gulf. i mean, Dubai's playing God with all of their land reclamation and their construction frenzy, such as the three Palm Islands, the World, and the Dubai Waterfront. even Sheikh Zayed Road, the city's main vein, is a headache of look-alike skyscrapers and clogged traffic. in Kuwait, we actually try to integrate culture into a lot of what we do. look at the Heritage Village (on hold...), the Dickson House, and even Souk Sharq; a mall it may be, but the architecture is reminiscent of the Gulf of the past. we should preserve our culture in a world where it no longer means much and integrate it with the modern forms of the future. all we need is the will to change and we can show the world the true definition of Kuwait.

kuwaiti_patriot

2nd chance
August 6th, 2006, 04:52 PM
كتبت رزان عدنان: تشهد منطقة الخليج حاليا فورة عمرانية غير مسبوقة وذلك على وقع تحول انظار العالم اليها مما نتج عنه توجه جهات استثمارية كبري الى كشف النقاب عن ابراج ذات ارتفاعات خيالية منتشرة في انحاء الخليج الامر الذي اثار شهية المعماريين الى محاولة تحضير دراسات لاطلاق اعلى برج في العالم بارتفاع يصل الى 1852 مترا، إلا ان اصحاب الفكرة يبحثون عن القطب الذي سيحتضن المشروع وهو الاول من نوعه وان كان رجل الاعمال عبدالعزيز البوعينين وهو مفوض ووكيل المصمم الرئيسي للمشروع المهندس الايطالي اومرو ماركيتي يتمنى ان ينفذ البرج في دولة الكويت خاصة وان الاسم الاولي للمشروع «برج الجابر».
الى ذلك، اكد البوعينين ان الدراسة التي اعدت للمشروع تضمنت حلولا لكافة الصعوبات التي قد تواجه تنفيذه، لافتا الى ان الدراسة سوف تقدم للجهات العليا بالكويت خلال ثلاثة أشهر.
واشار البوعينين الى ان فكرة انشاء هذا البرج بدأت من خلال الطرح الذي قدمه المهندس المعماري الايطالي اومرو ماركيتي، والذي جمعنا به تعاون منذ نحو عام.
وقال ان الفكرة الجديدة تتمثل بانشاء برج فريد من نوعه يتألف من 500 طابق - مبدئيا - اخذا في الاعتبار المساحة الكلية بدءا من القاعدة وحتى آخر جزء من الارتفاع، ليبلغ بذلك الطول الكلي 1852 مترا، وليكون اعلى برج في العالم حتى الان بعد برج دبي الذي يبلغ ارتفاعه 800 متر.
واكد انه لم يتم اختيار الموقع المناسب لهذا المشروع الى الان، اذ لايزال المشروع في طور المرحلة الاولى وهي التصميم،، وستكون اوراق المشروع جاهزة بعد ثلاثة اشهر لطرحها على الحكومة واخذ الموافقة، وفي حال لم توافق الحكومة على هذا المشروع، فسيتم التوجه الى دول الخليج الاخرى.
وقال ان المشروع كما في المرحلة الاولى من التصميم، وسيتم الانتقال بعدها الي التكلفة وهي الرحلة الثانية، ثم المواصفات، واخيرا طرحه كمناقصة على شركات المقاولات.
ويلزم لانجاز خطط المشروع مع المرحلة التنفيذية عامان، وبين 3 - 4 اعوام بناء وسيشمل البرج على اسواق تجارية، ومعاهد، ومكاتب، وفندقين، وشقق سكنية، سيكون البرج باختصار جزءا من المدينة.
وذكر ان المهندس ماركيتي قام بعدة دراسات بالتعاون مع شركتنا، وطرح اسئلة حولا منطقة الخليج وطبيعتها ومناخها الصحراوي.
واما عن الكلفة فقال إنها ستكون جاهزة بعد شهر تماما، معتبرا ان من شأن هذا المشروع ان يخدم الكويت اقتصاديا وتجاريا وسياحيا، كما يعتبر البرج فريدا من نوعه من حيث التصميم.
ماركيتي: مشروع ثقافي وتراثي
ومن جانبه، تحدث المهندس المعماري الايطالي أومرو ماركيتي مصمم المشروع لـ «الرأي العام» عن طبيعة المشروع وأهدافه وكافة جوانبه.
وفيما يلي نص اللقاء
• لماذا اخترتم الكويت لتشييد مثل هذا البرج على أرضها؟
- تم طرح هذا السؤال علي كثيراً، والاجابة كانت انني أنظر إلى الجانب الثقافي والتراثي الذي تتمتع به هذه المنطقة، والتي كانت مهداً للحضارة العمرانية، إذ بدأت منها وانتقلت إلى أوروبا.
وتتشــــابه الظـــروف الآن في دول الخليج مع الظروف التي كانت في عصر النهضة في فلـــورنـــسا رائـــدة الـــفــن والعــمران.
كما تتمتع دول الخليج بثروة اقتصادية تمكنها من اقتناص الفرصة التامة للعمل والتجارة والسفر وبناء مستقبل واعد.
وإذا نظرنا إلى الإمارات العربية المتحدة، نجد ان اللغة المعمارية وصلت إلى أعلى مستويات الحداثة، مقارنة مع مدينة فلورنسا في عصر النهضة ومن أجل ذلك، فإن التحدي لا يكفي من خلال التكنولوجيا والثروة والرفاهية، نحن بحاجة إلى أن نبدأ من فكـــرة خالـــصة، مـــن وجـــهـــة نـــظر جـــديدة لمـــواجهة هذا التحدي معتمدين بذلك على قيمنا وثـــقافتنا وخصائص هويتنا على هذه الأرض.
• هل ترى ان البنى التحتية في الكويت تسمح بتشييد مثل هذه المشاريع؟ وماذا عن الطقس؟
- إن أفضل بيئة ومكان لبناء مثل هذه المشاريع، هو في طقس دول الخليج، حيث الطاقة الشمسية، إضافة إلى ان مدينة الكويت على اختلاف أبنيتها، فإنها جميلة، ومن خلال هذا المشروع نستطيع أن نضيف قيمة جديدة لهذا الجمال، وأن تجمع أماكن كثيرة ومبان عديدة واحتياجات متعددة والانتقال عبر مكان واحد ومبنى واحد.
وأريد أن أضيف هنا ان دول الخليج والعالم وصلت إلى مراحل متقدمة جداً من اللغة المعمارية الحديثة، لكن التحدي ليس في رسم الحداثة بل في تعريف مستقبل العمران.
وعلى دول الخليج أن تحضر نفسها لمثل هذا التحدي، ورسم مدينة المستقبل، فالظروف المهيئة فيها هي ذاتها في فلورنسا قبل 500 عام.
ومن وجهة نظري، أرى ان الكويت قادرة على أن تكون رائدة عمران في المنطقة وان تتفوق على عمران دبي، لأنني أجد في الكويت مثال الإنسان المبدع كما في ايطاليا.
• بات هناك منافسة جادة من دول اقتصادية عدة بتشييد ناطحات سحاب وأبراج مرتفعة، كيف تنظرون لهذه المنافسة، خاصة ان فكرة امكانية تشييد برج أعلى من البرج الذي تقومون عليه واردة؟
- لا بد من المنافسة، فهي أمر مهم، وتضيف قيمة للعمل, ما أقوم بالتركيز عليه هو تصميم المشروع، والابداع في ذلك.
وإذا توافرت لدينا الامكانات الكافية، فسنكون قادرين على بناء أفضل مشروع.
• هل تحتاج دول المنطقة لمثل هذه المشاريع الضخمة؟
- نعم، فمثل هذه المشاريع من شأنها أن تشجع السياحة فيها، ولا يقتصر على ذلك فحسب، فهي قادرة على تعزيز العمل والتجارة والاقتصاد ودول الخليج غنية بالنفط والغاز، وثروتها كبيرة، وقادرة بذلك على بناء عصر نهضة جديدة ومرحلة عمران جديد.
• هل لديكم مشاريع كبيرة في ايطاليا وأوروبا؟ وهل هذا المشروع هو الأول لكم في خارج ايطاليا؟
- نعم، لدينا مشاريع عديدة في ايطاليا فقط، وهذا هو مشروعنا الأول الذي نقيمه خــــارج ايطاليا.



Generally, It's the same stuff mentioned in Al-Qabas newspaper, except for 2 points:

1. The tower will consist of 500 stories, which i believe is totally unnecessary, as well as ridiculous. (somebody PLEASE give me ONE, & only ONE reason to why we should build or have this ?!? And "to forfill our ego" isn't a good answer lads).

2. "If this project wasn't approved by the Kuwaiti Gov., we'll take it to the other GCC countries" Says Mr. AL-Boainnain.

Conclusions:

1. The whole thing about choosing Kuwait for it's "beauty and nature of creativity"... is complete bullshit... All the fella is after is $$$, and lots of it !!

So don't be surprised if the tower's name was changed to something like .. King Abdullah Tower, Sheikh Hamad Tower, or Sultan Qabous Tower (though the last one i really doubt).

2. A friend of mine acutally came up with a very good explanation regarding the "naming-projects-after-the-royal-family" phenomena.
And it goes like this "To gain approval from the Gov."... Jeez that was simple :P
With all due respect, but who's going to say "no" to a tower named after Sabah ? or a Bridge named after Jaber ? Vouala !! There you guyz .. and it's free of charge :P

Questions:

1. I only have one question for both Mr. Al-Boainnain and Mr. "whatever the architect's name is"... Now i was wondering, when you people came up with this tower-thingy... where you guyz high ??



I swear to god that this "massive multi-billion projects and towers" madness going on in Kuwait at the moment, is all like a poker game... most of the players are bluffing !! Look for the guy with the poker face, and you'll find the winner !!
(you must be thinking i'm really wise hu? :P ) LOOOOOL

ChaoticTranquility
August 6th, 2006, 05:09 PM
then how in HELL is this tower adapted specifically for Kuwait?!

if it's a fusion of the Kuwaiti and Italian flags or whatever, then how can they take it to other countries if it's been "individualized" for Kuwait? how effin' stupid.

and 500 stories? what are we going to do with that? we already have more than enough office, retail, and hospitality space with what we've got and what we've got coming. and now this? we're gonna have way too much. think about it, with 500 stories, you could throw in two hotels, a lot of office floors, residential floors, observation decks, and restaurants. a vertical city, if you will. that's overdoing it.

agh, this is frustrating. we need logic, for once.

kuwaiti_patriot

differences75
August 6th, 2006, 05:20 PM
then how in HELL is this tower adapted specifically for Kuwait?!

if it's a fusion of the Kuwaiti and Italian flags or whatever, then how can they take it to other countries if it's been "individualized" for Kuwait? how effin' stupid.

and 500 stories? what are we going to do with that? we already have more than enough office, retail, and hospitality space with what we've got and what we've got coming. and now this? we're gonna have way too much. think about it, with 500 stories, you could throw in two hotels, a lot of office floors, residential floors, observation decks, and restaurants. a vertical city, if you will. that's overdoing it.

agh, this is frustrating. we need logic, for once.

kuwaiti_patriot





couldn't agree more ... :sleepy:

2nd chance
August 6th, 2006, 05:45 PM
Talking about the lack of logic here...

The architect.. He's Italian, with a Japanese name, and the reeeeeeeally scary part.. Arabian looks !!

Oh and was that a new Karate move he was trying to show us in the picture up there ??

q8_shaggy_17
August 6th, 2006, 05:48 PM
y r u guys so desperate, look at the brite side 4 atleast once, the tower maybe too much if u c it now yes, but after 7 or 10 years, beleive me it will be useful, esecially we broke the 1000000 kuwaiti citizens, in the upcoming years the population is gonna increase, we have 2 have more projects, especially if u guys want kuwait 2 be a world buzness, and trade center, the population is gonna rise fast beleive me, and if u r aiming 4 a country like q8 2 be a world trade center, beleive me u need buildings like this. Plus u cant judge on what the archetect is or what his bahraini manager is, or even y they picked q8 4 this project now. They r gonna study it, and give it 2 the government, i agree with u guys that there is alot of corruption in the government, but they can't be fooled with such big projects like this. I guess we'll just have 2 wait till it's given 2 the governmetn 2 approve it.

can't u guys be obtimistic 4 atleast once, plz u guys look @ the bright side 4 atleast once, q8 testahel, and dont be so harsh on the royal family, enshalla ehma gadha wegdood ;)

leq8 a7la dera o 6ol 3mra bettem a7la dera :)

CrazY
August 6th, 2006, 06:08 PM
i have a feeling that this tower will be constructed before mubark al kabeer tower :) just a feeling ;)

ChaoticTranquility
August 6th, 2006, 06:18 PM
desperate? what do you mean?

q8_shaggy, i mentioned the bright side in my second comment, about Kuwait preserving its culture from corporate monotony in the rest of the world!

i was talking about the LOGIC behind the tower's design. Al Qabas mentioned something about the concept being a mix of Kuwait and Italy; if it was made for Kuwait, then how could they build it someplace else? if it's uniquely Kuwaiti, then what they're saying is a pile of turd seeing that they'll build it elsewhere. see my point?

true, 500 stories doesn't seem useful now and maybe future demand will require it. but as of now, we have a surplus of office space. the majority of all of Kuwait's current projects are devoted to offices, from the Rakan Office Tower to the Capital Complex and the Al-Hamra Tower. Al-Hamra alone will have 77 floors of offices with 98000 square meters of space! if we add 500 floors, it'll be way too much. plus the lease at the Jaber Tower would most probably be very expensive, so it won't be too appealing to a lot of corporations.

it seems kind of dictatorial that we're slapping the royal family's name on a lot of the city's landmarks; we need more creativity and originality, that's all i'm saying. plus the government's bureaucracy and corruption hasn't exactly left the best impression on us, seeing that they freeze projects or steal and plunder the country's resources for their own needs.

Kuwait deserves the best, and we agree with you on that. we just need logic and honesty; with these, Kuwait can truly be something unique and special.

kuwaiti_patriot

q8_shaggy_17
August 6th, 2006, 06:18 PM
i think that this tower is not only a tower, it will come with a city, "the ethical city", and i think that this city is gonna be built in bubyan, just a thought.

Jimbu
August 6th, 2006, 06:30 PM
http://www.alqabas.com.kw/Final/NewspaperWebsite/NewspaperBackOffice/ArticlesPictures/6-8-2006//191494_150001.jpg

what a dream. go for it Kuwait

CrazY
August 6th, 2006, 06:56 PM
i think that this tower is not only a tower, it will come with a city, "the ethical city", and i think that this city is gonna be built in bubyan, just a thought.

on the picture they wrote jaber tower, kuwait city.
anyway bubyan i think its not sutable for buildings like this :/ i dont know

q8_shaggy_17
August 6th, 2006, 07:27 PM
kuwait patriot i get ur point ;)

q8_shaggy_17
August 6th, 2006, 07:31 PM
oh yes, i think bubyan is sutable, it has a stragetic place, plus its gonna be next 2 madinat alhareer, but if u think about it, it's also kinda hard 2 build it in kuwait city, traffic, plus no space, and again i think that bubyan is very sutable 4 a project like this, the government even mentioned that bubyan is not only having a project 4 the bubyan port, but a hole city next 2 the port, i think that bubyan is an excellent place 4 projects like this

CrazY
August 6th, 2006, 07:58 PM
q8 shaggy ,, kuwait city has alot of space believe me ... every where you go there are patches of sand used as car parks and old unused building in very good locations, anyway we have to wait and see ;)

Wali10
August 6th, 2006, 08:05 PM
How can we dream about building such a super tower, if we have problems, delays, design deficiencies and regulation issues with almost every major tower being built in Kuwait (Alhamra, Kuwait Trade Center, Symphony, Kuwait Gate, Alraya, Central Bank of Kuwait....and the list goes on and on .....)

q8_shaggy_17
August 6th, 2006, 08:06 PM
i agree with u crazy, but still we'll have traffic problems, and i think that even if we put it in bubyan it's not so bad

ahmedjam
August 6th, 2006, 08:11 PM
GUY it is a stupid idea to build a tower that tall and the Italian architect is trying to sell his stupid idea or finding a some one to buy it OK for example if he want to sell this idea to Qatar he will named it after a Qatari ameir (ya3ny baya3 7achey) this is crap..........!!!!!!!!!!!!

Shayan_m
August 6th, 2006, 08:20 PM
WOW, nice if true !

CrazY
August 6th, 2006, 08:27 PM
ok , but really can this world build a nearly 2 kilometer tower ,, emmm i dont think so... anyway the article is so vague !! they didn't say how they are going to build it ,who ? where ??

differences75
August 6th, 2006, 10:07 PM
we are being laughed at loudly now with those loosers who can't do anything in their own countries .. i'm an architect and never heard of this italian architect .. we need no tall tower to preserve our identity and what identity or culture is that way high in the sky? they just see our dollars and want to make a profit

q8_shaggy_17
August 6th, 2006, 10:42 PM
u guys, it's still just an idea, u dont know what might happen, u can judge after it is discussed in the cabinet, plus they didn't begin to study the project in details, there gonna start doin it next week.

it's still only an idea.

some of u dont beleive that the hight of the tower could be that long, well i do, cuz right this moment in japan they r studyin a project of building a tower that is even longer than jaber tower beleive it or not, japan is doin alot of studies 4 their tower, but they still didn't make a final decision. I heard about the japanies project in alaqaria tv. So if japan studying a proposed tower that is longer than jaber tower, y dont u guys beleive that jaber tower is really that long

u guys plz look @ the bright side 4 atleast once, dont be so desperate

safqa_tijariya
August 7th, 2006, 12:02 AM
GUYS! stop it!!!! is this your money of their money!? if they want to build a super big tower then let them do it and if you want to have the infrastructure fixed do a petition about it or go see the emir or the businessmen yourself why waste time?!! but if you dont have anything good to do then please be respectful and shut up and let them build the ''swan'' looking skycraper...

I personaly see that its very beautiful and will make kuwait look like a flower :D...
Though a lot of things are more useful and this is like a luxury ego tool but if we can't do anything about it lets be happy for them...

Dhari
August 7th, 2006, 01:04 AM
!!!...KaaaaaaLaaaaaaaaaaaaM....!!!

AlOnSi
August 7th, 2006, 08:12 AM
CNN Breaking News (Year 2015)
Fire breaks out in floor 463 at Jaber Tower a Kuwaiti Landmark and the tallest building on the planet. Teams of fire fighters from all over the country are arriving at the scene now. A spokesperson from the fire department said "we dont have the right equipment to fight this fire at this height .. we'll just evacuate the lower floors and the area around the tower and wait for the fire to stop and we're expecting the building to collapse".


dont build it

chix_love
August 7th, 2006, 08:25 AM
CNN Breaking News (Year 2015)
Fire breaks out in floor 463 at Jaber Tower a Kuwaiti Landmark and the tallest building on the planet. Teams of fire fighters from all over the country are arriving at the scene now. A spokesperson from the fire department said "we dont have the right equipment to fight this fire at this height .. we'll just evacuate the lower floors and the area around the tower and wait for the fire to stop and we're expecting the building to collapse".


dont build it


hahahahahahahahahahahahahah!!!!!!!!!!!!!! thats sounds funny :runaway: :cheers:

neio
August 7th, 2006, 09:58 AM
سلام شباب ..... بصراحة الفكرة جملية بس طبعا نفس مدينة الحرير ... مخططات ورسوم على ورق

q8_shaggy_17
August 7th, 2006, 01:07 PM
damn u guys, leesh kela u look @ the bad side, look @ the good side. leesh etfawloon 3ala deratkom, enshalla may9er fire bel tower wenshalla e9er a6wal o a7san tower in the world

CrazY
August 7th, 2006, 01:21 PM
CNN Breaking News (Year 2015)
Fire breaks out in floor 463 at Jaber Tower a Kuwaiti Landmark and the tallest building on the planet. Teams of fire fighters from all over the country are arriving at the scene now. A spokesperson from the fire department said "we dont have the right equipment to fight this fire at this height .. we'll just evacuate the lower floors and the area around the tower and wait for the fire to stop and we're expecting the building to collapse".


dont build it

come on that was not funny !! none of you complain about any fire in floor number 245 in mubarak tower ,, anyway building like these have their own fire system if anything happens because its built with intelligent design and its called smart towers

chix_love
August 7th, 2006, 01:30 PM
mubark tower will loose its charm when al jaber tower will be built

q8_shaggy_17
August 7th, 2006, 01:33 PM
no, they both will not loose their charm, cuz they're gonna be built in q8 inshalla that's y ;)

Skoulikimou
August 7th, 2006, 01:36 PM
i rather that we build couple of descent high rise towers +300m than having one ugly super tall tower dwarfing all the existing and the upcoming towers in kuwait city ,beside what is the economic value behind building super tall tower ?

q8_shaggy_17
August 7th, 2006, 01:46 PM
skouli, it's not only a tower, it's good 4 the future, especially if we want q8 2 be a world tarde center or somethin like that, we really need big projects like jaber tower, it has an economic value beleive me, this thing is being studied right now, they r even studying it's economic value like u said, and then they're gonna discuss it with the prim minister, and c if it is approved or not. This kind of stuff economic values behind the project and other kinds of stuff have 2 be discussed, it will have economic values beleive me, it's gonna be great ;)

margog
August 7th, 2006, 05:54 PM
thats so wonderful I like it so much but am afraid that will be only a vison and I hope not and BTW the name of (( al jaber tower )) thats mean they r flirting the goverment to aprove the project ;) but any way go kuwait for your best and god bles Q8
BTW they sed that the tower will be in kuwait city but Q? is (( it will be in land or sea )) becouse ther is no land in the city so I think in the sea or maybe they will convert mubark tower into al jaber tower any way GOD HELP ME TO BELEVE THAT project..................................oolllaaaahh

Skoulikimou
August 7th, 2006, 06:00 PM
thats so wonderful I like it so much but am afraid that will be only a vison and I hope not and BTW the name of (( al jaber tower )) thats mean they r flirting the goverment to aprove the project ;) but any way go kuwait for your best and god bles Q8
BTW they sed that the tower will be in kuwait city but Q? is (( it will be in land or sea )) becouse ther is no land in the city so I think in the sea or maybe they will convert mubark tower into al jaber tower any way GOD HELP ME TO BELEVE THAT project..................................oolllaaaahh
and ishallah it will stay as a vision concept .

q8_shaggy_17
August 7th, 2006, 07:16 PM
inshalla the project gets approved by the government and built as soon as possible, we have no time 2 waste, we r so behind and the other gulf countries r so over us

AlOnSi
August 7th, 2006, 07:35 PM
shaggy wayed met7ames :P

differences75
August 7th, 2006, 10:02 PM
they must not approve both jaber nor mubarak towers .. manabi

CrazY
August 7th, 2006, 11:19 PM
wallah ana abee ;P bas not jaber tower , mubark tower with the city of silk is a must :)

chix_love
August 8th, 2006, 08:09 AM
dude! kuwait city will look weird when jaber tower will be built

ahmedjam
August 8th, 2006, 11:40 AM
like it is now with the burj al-ta7rer

q8_shaggy_17
August 8th, 2006, 02:40 PM
yeba elsalfa mo chethe, el7ekoma welmajles r wasting money with mona7 amiria o raising salaries o es8ad 8oro'6, so i guess we're not lookin 2 good right now, money is being wasted 3ala ashya2 estehlakia, instead of investing that money, bas mo t7ache 3amek a9ma5, wala guys lel2asaf i think that q8 is gonna have a dark future cuz of this stupid corruption we have. i want q8 2 be a world trade center but i think that it will never be that, or even like dubai, that's how desperate i am about my country. nowadays all that kuwaities want is money, they r not lookin @ the future, it's like the oil is gonna last 4ever, and beleive me guys someday we're gonna regret what we did, o ra7 nen7erej min the other gulf countries cuz the're planing 4 the future, and they learned alot of q8's mistakes.

u guys r talkin about mubarak tower, jaber tower, and madinat el hareer as if they're gonna be built 2morrow, haven't u guys 4got about the beaurocracy and corruption that we have in q8

god bless q8, plz tell me i'm wrong

wake up q8

wala 7asafa 3alech ya q8 :(:(

UAE_CONDOR
August 10th, 2006, 06:04 AM
Beautiful dreams

Dream of Kuwait city
Dream 1-Madinat Al Hareer
Dream 2-Jaber Tower",1852M,500F
:goodnight
happy Dreams :)

chix_love
August 10th, 2006, 09:50 AM
Beautiful dreams

Dream of Kuwait city
Dream 1-Madinat Al Hareer
Dream 2-Jaber Tower",1852M,500F
:goodnight
happy Dreams :)

These dreams will soon be truth. :runaway: :weirdo: :jk: :cheers: :scouserd:

q8_shaggy_17
August 10th, 2006, 11:40 AM
the dreams r good and great, but i'm afraid they'll never come true, cuz of the damn beaurocracy we have here, lel2asaf q8 is a corrupted country

CrazY
August 10th, 2006, 11:42 AM
UAE_CONDOR :fart:

rooo7 -->> :badnews:

ahmedjam
August 10th, 2006, 12:18 PM
yeba elsalfa mo chethe, el7ekoma welmajles r wasting money with mona7 amiria o raising salaries o es8ad 8oro'6, so i guess we're not lookin 2 good right now, money is being wasted 3ala ashya2 estehlakia, instead of investing that money, bas mo t7ache 3amek a9ma5, wala guys lel2asaf i think that q8 is gonna have a dark future cuz of this stupid corruption we have. i want q8 2 be a world trade center but i think that it will never be that, or even like dubai, that's how desperate i am about my country. nowadays all that kuwaities want is money, they r not lookin @ the future, it's like the oil is gonna last 4ever, and beleive me guys someday we're gonna regret what we did, o ra7 nen7erej min the other gulf countries cuz the're planing 4 the future, and they learned alot of q8's mistakes.

u guys r talkin about mubarak tower, jaber tower, and madinat el hareer as if they're gonna be built 2morrow, haven't u guys 4got about the beaurocracy and corruption that we have in q8

god bless q8, plz tell me i'm wrong

wake up q8

wala 7asafa 3alech ya q8 :(:(

I feel your pain :(
BUT, what i want to say is that, if Kuwaitis want to see Kuwait like Dubai they will make a decision and we will be like it in 3 or 4 years but Kuwaiti don't want to be, its something from use deep in side, we don't wanna see all the eyes on us, like before the invasion "1990"incident" (if want it to be, we will do it like what we've done with the nabeha 5, we will change every thing ,every thing "7atan el-amir" if we)

UAE_CONDOR
August 10th, 2006, 12:39 PM
These dreams will soon be truth. :runaway: :weirdo: :jk: :cheers: :scouserd:


I am only Joke :jk:
Good luck for Kuwait :)

CrazY
... :D

CrazY
August 10th, 2006, 02:59 PM
hehehe uae condor ;) 3adi 3adi dreams 7elo they can come true

ahmedjam qaweeeeeeeeeeeeeeya we change il amir ;p waaaayed waayed,, anyway sheikh 9aba7 tara hes good with the economic things wel tejara and hes a good buisnessman... he can make kuwait alot better, he wants kuwait to be a buisness hub and a fainacial center and thats good. we just need to make things simple within the government routine

gohorns
August 10th, 2006, 08:44 PM
Despite what some people are claiming on this thread, there is no "economic value" that can be derived from a project like this. Building this tower will not transform Kuwait into a global center for trade or whatever claims are being made. Also, Kuwait cannot "decide" to be like Dubai and be that way in 3-4 years. Please be a little realistic here. First, Kuwait does not need a tower like this no matter what the population is down the line. Second, the only point of building this tower would be satisfy egos and make people feel better about the country. Third, the space will be extremely expensive so why would people abandon regular towers (ones that are sensible like 30-60 stories and competitively priced) for this one?

If Kuwait does want to be a center for trade and business, it should invest heavily on infrastructure, education, etc. I am not a big fan of Dubai because there's a lot of funny business going on there but Dubai has achieved a lot and it has done so thru years and years of dedication. They've had minimal red-tape, which from what I understand is a problem in Kuwait. They've made the environment business friendly. Kuwait would have to do the same. I think the countries in the region can learn from the Dubai model and take the positves and try to avoid the negatives of the Dubai model.

By the way, I don't think Kuwait even needs that tower in silk city. A well-designed, functioning new city with great infrastructure and great amenities and facilities for its residents should do just fine. :)

CrazY
August 10th, 2006, 11:22 PM
you have very good points gohorns , thanx for your opinion ;) and yes infrastructure is a very important content for becoming a business and trade center

q8_shaggy_17
August 11th, 2006, 02:55 PM
i agree with alot of what u said gohorns, but i dont agree with u about the jaber tower and mubarak tower

ahmedjam
August 11th, 2006, 02:59 PM
you have a good point gohorns, Kuwait should see this kind of invest, but we don't, and yeah we wont be like Dubai in 4 years but we will make a success in 4 years

hehehe uae condor ;) 3adi 3adi dreams 7elo they can come true

ahmedjam qaweeeeeeeeeeeeeeya we change il amir ;p waaaayed waayed,, anyway sheikh 9aba7 tara hes good with the economic things wel tejara and hes a good buisnessman... he can make kuwait alot better, he wants kuwait to be a buisness hub and a fainacial center and thats good. we just need to make things simple within the government routine

And crazy, sheikh 9uba7, he is making Kuwait better, look how Kuwait is changing, now we have allot of new towers, malls, even the streets are getting better fiber optics are getting installed allot going in here but sheikh 9uba7 should change many things, like what is happening in majlis el-oma or el-wzara2 even el-baladi, maby he will change in the near future, but he must, if he want to see Kuwait better........... :)

q8_shaggy_17
August 11th, 2006, 03:51 PM
ahmadjam elsalfa mo slafat ena elsha5 9ba7 ala e7ftha ena esawe q8 better, we all must make kuwait better, cuz right now the hole country is full of beaurocarcy and corruption, even the people r being corrupted, it takes time 2 change all this and we will change 2 the better, but guys lets be more realistic, q8 can be like dubai, but it needs alot of time like 15-30 years, we can't be from nothing 2 everything in 5 years, it's impossible. u guys know how dubai got 2 be what it is 2day, they were planing 4 this since the 80s, kuwait doesn't even have a plan yet, all we're doing is raising salaries and droping loans, paying electricity and water money 4 the ppl, and thats all bad, we should invest our money instead.

we have a vision, but we dont have a plan, beleive me guys, if u want q8 2 be better, start with ur selves, cuz we're all part of this not only the amir, we're all responsible, and right now we're being iresponsible, all the things the senators r thinking about is salaries, loans, and that kind of shit, that's not really good 4 the countries future, they shit invest the money 4 the future instead of spending it on this shit

gohorns
August 11th, 2006, 04:57 PM
Oh man, people in the Kuwait forum are so much nicer. If I posted something about Dubai, like a criticism or whatever, they'd all turn against me and call me some Dubai-hating nut. People here, like shaggy, just disagreed and that's nice. We can all agree or disagree. :)

I'm curious, how is the violence in Iraq affecting Kuwait or is it not affecting Kuwait at all? Is there any risk from the violence? If not, I really don't see what is holding Kuwait back. Oil revenues are through the roof. All the gulf countries are earning much much more than they anticipated. If this isn't the best time to invest in the country then I don't know when is. I really hope they aren't investing all the surplus revenues in the US and other western countries, which the gulf countries have done traditionally but are not doing as much as they are investing in their own countries more.

q8_shaggy_17
August 11th, 2006, 05:14 PM
no gohorns, they're investing the money, instead they're using it 2 raise salaries and drop loans...etc, which will ofcourse threaten the future of q8, it's like they think that the oil is gonna last 4ever, if they're not investing the money now, when will they do it:(
it's not about giving money 2 other countries, it's about using it right, we dont even have a future plan, we're way behind and the other gulf countires r way over us

CrazY
August 11th, 2006, 11:32 PM
q8 shaggy ,, the government won't drop the loans !! and raising salaries is still being studied by the ministry of fianance ,, thats it you're overreacting about the whole thing from the begining... q8 shaggy believe me all this is just a small proportion of the country's budget of billions of dollars and all the surplus of the oil price, the government is giving everything the right amount of money and budget ,, the foriegn investments roses 16%, the next generation fund is 100 billion and the country's GDP rose 30% to become $32000 ..... these are all positive things for the future

ahmedjam your right the counrty needs a good leader to lead the people through in my opinion is a pissimistic times and things must change quickly so the public can be happy that hes living in a wonderfull country like kuwait :)

q8_shaggy_17
August 12th, 2006, 04:32 PM
no, the government will drop the loans cuz many senators in the parliament agree with it, u think that droping loans and raising salaries dont worth alot of money, well let me tell u this crazy, do u know that 50% of the income of the country from oil goes 2 salaries, and do u know that droping loans is worth more than billion KD, plus if u keep raising salaries and droping loans, the people of q8 will be so corrupted, lazy and so dependent on the government(mo nage9 ela ta9ref 3alehom kelshay ba3ad mara wa7da), tadre ena ne9 el loans kelaha ray7a 3ala ashya estehlakia, o 7ata 3ala salfat elmay elsalfa mo bas 3al wazer, elnas ma ta7med rabha belne3ma ele ehya feha, bas kela yahdron elmay, wetshof elmay kelyom eshkethra ye6la3 men el7osh ebkelbet welshewar3 tentres may, menchenthe lazm ena e7e6on taxes 3ala elmay welkahraba, lesh?? 3ashan en5ale elnas et7es beln3ma ele ehya feha.

la le es8a6 el8roo'6 wa zyadat elma3ashat, wa na3m lel tashre3at el e8te9adia wa 5o6a6 mosta8balia t7a8e8 rafahia lelmojtama3 wa t5rej shbab mota3lem wa nashe6(mo shabab dependent 3al7ekoma kel welthania egolek el7koma

CrazY
August 12th, 2006, 04:52 PM
q8 shaggy the raise of the salaries is going to be 412 million KD, thats it.. il men7aa is 210 million KD ...... and about the loans not all the members of parliment is with the law and dont forget the 16 members of the government that can vote against it.
another thing about the loans is that not all kuwaitis have loans, and everybody has different amounts of money taken by loans, so if they cancell all the loans and a kuwaiti has about 12000 KD and another has 5000 KD, if they cancel the loans it wont be fair for all the people so it wont be constitutional, and they wont pass the law !!
thats it, oo i dont want to argue about this anymore :)

q8_shaggy_17
August 12th, 2006, 05:07 PM
3alek nooor, that's right

god bless q8

gohorns
August 13th, 2006, 12:30 AM
q8 shaggy the raise of the salaries is going to be 412 million KD, thats it.. il men7aa is 210 million KD ...... and about the loans not all the members of parliment is with the law and dont forget the 16 members of the government that can vote against it.
another thing about the loans is that not all kuwaitis have loans, and everybody has different amounts of money taken by loans, so if they cancell all the loans and a kuwaiti has about 12000 KD and another has 5000 KD, if they cancel the loans it wont be fair for all the people so it wont be constitutional, and they wont pass the law !!
thats it, oo i dont want to argue about this anymore :)

Are these members of parliament all elected by the people? How much influence do they have in governmental decision-making? Is there a higher authority that can over-rule them, like the emir for example?

CrazY
August 13th, 2006, 01:13 AM
^^yeah there are 50 members elected all by kuwaiti men and women over 21 years old, excluding army men. the parliament is one of the strongest in the middle east, they can kick ministers out of office in the government. the prime ministers are from al subah family appointed by the emir. yes the emir can over-rule the parliament by dissolving it and calling for elections in the next two months.

btw gohorns if you have any questions about kuwait please ask in the sky diwaniyah in the kuwaiti sub-forum :)
there is more info about this in this website (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politics_of_Kuwait)

gohorns
August 13th, 2006, 01:35 AM
Thanks buddy! Sorry for veering off topic. I asked the question here cuz you mentioned the parliament.

CrazY
August 13th, 2006, 01:54 PM
anytime gohorns ;) glad to help

dubaiflo
August 18th, 2006, 05:16 PM
Oh man, people in the Kuwait forum are so much nicer. If I posted something about Dubai, like a criticism or whatever, they'd all turn against me and call me some Dubai-hating nut. People here, like shaggy, just disagreed and that's nice. We can all agree or disagree. :)




i have never seen you posting one single sentence in the Dubai forums.

ZZ-II
August 18th, 2006, 06:46 PM
unrealistic tower but nice :)

q8_shaggy_17
August 18th, 2006, 09:14 PM
well, it will be realistic soon inshalla, nothing is impossible

gohorns
August 19th, 2006, 04:39 AM
i have never seen you posting one single sentence in the Dubai forums.

1. I have.
2. I have also seen what happens to those to critisize Dubai anywhere on SSC, so I prefer not to get involved.

By the way dubaiflo, I really like your work. Great job on the videos. I liked the first one but, to be honest, I got bored halfway thru the second. It's not your fault, you did an excellent job. I am kinda bored with Dubai's projects. Some of them are pretty monotonous. Anyway, I'm glad I posted this here. Hopefully I won't be branded a Dubai-hater here. :jk:

choyak
August 21st, 2006, 12:10 AM
Why oh why does it remind me of this so much?

http://www.fortunecity.com/lavender/atkinson/948/milehigh.jpg

Supermegatall will be another category!!

CrazY
August 21st, 2006, 12:41 AM
^^ cant see anything

ahmedjam
August 21st, 2006, 04:16 AM
LOL !!!!!!!!

Skoulikimou
August 21st, 2006, 06:44 AM
originally posted by choyak
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/9269/milehighlv4.jpg
BTW choyak where did you find this render was it formerly proposed tower

ChaoticTranquility
August 21st, 2006, 07:30 AM
hey guys.

that tower is The Illinois, a 1609-meter-high (mile-high) tower proposed for Chicago in the late 60s. it was designed by Frank Lloyd Wright to be the tallest building envisioned and incorporated everything from offices and hotels to residences and retail space. the Jaber Tower bears a very shocking resemblance to this concept, it causes me to question its so-called architect. hm.

kuwaiti_patriot

Qatar Son 333
August 21st, 2006, 11:13 AM
i thout it was a dubai project that was canceld it was a 1956 design hers the pic

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/3993/theillinoisandburjdubaiaa0.jpg

CrazY
August 21st, 2006, 05:17 PM
yeah, it looks like both jaber tower and burj dubai :|

ChaoticTranquility
August 21st, 2006, 05:47 PM
Chicago, ILLINOIS.

The Illinois was planned to be built there since Chicago is the birthplace of the world's first skyscraper.

Burj Dubai and the Jaber Tower seem to have take a lot of inspiration from Wright's concept. the higher a tower is built, it needs to be more slender since wind speeds are far stronger. still, the idea of building "supertall" is a risky one, since towers can sway at altitudes that high.

long story short, The Illinois was never a project for Dubai, but for Chicago. at the time, it seemed absurd to build something that high. Burj Dubai will change that opinion, and hopefully, the Jaber Tower will in the future.

kuwaiti_patriot

margog
August 31st, 2006, 01:21 PM
Ethic City tower at 1,852 metres will be the tallest in Gulf
Mohamed Besbas
Contributor

Bahrain will house the eighth wonder of the modern world if the dream project, ‘Ethic City’ takes shape. It will be 1,852 metres high, more than twice the ambitious Dubai Tower which is 800 metres.
Designed after a desert rose by Italian architect Amero Marchetti, the tower would be the tallest skyscrapers in the world. The project is awaiting sponsors, investors and government approval.
Abdul Aziz Al Buainain, an investor, told the Tribune yesterday that the first approval has to come from the Prime Minister’s Office, after which a site would be selected for an international monument of this stature. “The study on the project will take three months and drawings and specifications will take about two years. Once approved, the project would be completed in three-four years. The study will begin in two-three weeks,” Al Buainain said.
“The project is still an idea and needs sponsors and construction firms to make it a reality. The core team will be involved in the design and the overall supervision of the project.” The project has been codenamed ‘Ethic City’ based on the philosophy that has driven its designer to come up with such a concept. Marchetti sees the project as the beginning of a second renaissance, this time towards enriching mankind with a sense of respect for nature, of finding ways to live in harmony with it at a scale never before imagined.
“We need 250,000 square metres area to build the project. The tower will have more than 500 floors, each admeasuring about 600- 750 square metres. The tower needs $150 millions but we will invest more money because we want it to be a high-quality work,” he said.
Marchetti has compared today’s Gulf with the 14th century Florence, where renaissance took birth. “Today the Arab world is rich economically and culturally, and perhaps is at the threshold of leading a new revolution in the world,” Al Buainain said.
The core philosophy of this vertical city is about “feeling the breath of the universe and understanding the laws of matter to be able to harness their colossal energies in a manner that even our progenies can enjoy them. It is an ethical challenge, whether we want to reverse the trend of mankind, damaging the natural resources of the earth and making it less livable with every passing day or we want to simply add to the atrophy and expedite the end?”
Some builders show an obsession for beauty, even at the cost of logical utility, contends Marchetti. In his view beauty has to evolve from the entity’s harmonic utility in the continuum of natural laws, like trees. Plants and sea breeze will also be endemic to this dream city.
Marchetti has been challenged by doubters about the feasibility of such a grand project. But he tells them the parable of a sailor who sought to reach his destination by travelling in a direction opposite to the conventional route. His name was Christopher Columbus.

the reference is: http://www.bahraintribune.com/ArticleDetail.asp?CategoryId=1&ArticleId=118916 (http://)

what is going on guys ??

ahmedjam
August 31st, 2006, 10:16 PM
nafs ma-gelt hal etali ma3nda a7ad ybee3a el-fikraa !!
o ga3ed ydoor 3ala el-5alij o ygool hal fikra 7ag el-kuwait, o ba3dan, el-bahrain, o ba3dan qatar just what and see, F*** HIM

malec
September 1st, 2006, 01:22 AM
$150 million only for a 500F tower? :hahaha:

q8_shaggy_17
September 1st, 2006, 01:49 AM
the tower actually costs $150million??:S

Halawala
September 1st, 2006, 02:20 AM
I could just imagine the advertising here:

Own you private penthouse--only 5 minutes from the moon!

Skoulikimou
September 1st, 2006, 04:07 AM
the whole project is a lame joke

q8_shaggy_17
September 1st, 2006, 02:43 PM
it is a joke, i agree with u skouli

margog
September 1st, 2006, 07:38 PM
nafs ma-gelt hal etali ma3nda a7ad ybee3a el-fikraa !!
o ga3ed ydoor 3ala el-5alij o ygool hal fikra 7ag el-kuwait, o ba3dan, el-bahrain, o ba3dan qatar just what and see, F*** HIM

:rofl:
http://i5.tinypic.com/27x1de1.jpg

Halawala
September 1st, 2006, 11:02 PM
Well, lets ask the Italian guy if the tower doesn't work out-- we could plan a gellato cafe or pizzeria in Sharq or maybe Arabian Gulf Street ;) That is a better idea.

q8_shaggy_17
September 1st, 2006, 11:35 PM
the hole project is hard 2 beleive, it hasn't been studied and planed 4 that well so i think it's not gonna happen

ahmedjam
September 2nd, 2006, 01:10 AM
:rofl:
http://i5.tinypic.com/27x1de1.jpg

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
GOOOOOD ONE MARGOG :wallbash:

SkyBridge
September 4th, 2006, 02:07 PM
Beautiful design, but they should make it around 400m and then it'll be awesome

The Cebuano Exultor
September 8th, 2006, 04:47 AM
Hey guys, I think this project is one of those fantasy/visionary towers that will, in the forseeable future never get built.

I mean, the GCC countries right now are experiencing rapid construction activity due to the hyped-wealth of the region mainly because it is extremely oil rich (and getting ever more richer as oil prices skyrocket). But, in my honest opinion, this is just a stage of economic development which I would like to call "the bubble economy stage" wherein the current bright prospects for a certain region prompts excessive and over-ambitious proposals to come into blue-print stage. This stage, however, is merely temporary because, after "the bubble economy stage" will be, what I call, "the adjustment-correction stage" wherein the country and/or region's "bubble economy" will have popped or burst as a result of excessive construction and/or over-investment without any real demand coming from the populous (and consequently real profit). This "adjustment-correction stage" will shift its focus on more important economic issues (i.e. increasing productivity of the workforce; increase literacy rates among the population, especially women; increase energy efficiency, etc.) than simply fulfilling "ego-trips" by the Al-Sabah Royal Family.

This "economic bubble stage" that the GCC Countries are experiencing is reminiscent of the "Japanese Bubble Economy Stage" back in the 80s. At that time, Japan was also planning crazy projects like the X-Seed 4000. The X-Seed 4000 was a project proposal coming from the Japanese construction firm Taisei, which was going to be 4 kilometers tall with 800-storeys which could house a million people. When the "Japanese Bubble Economy" burst in the early 1990s, Japan experieced a severe economic correction stage that left it in financial and/or economic shambles that it took 15 years for it to recover. Those 15 years of Japanese economic stagnation is more commonly known as the "lost-decade and a half". Meanwhile, this X-Seed 4000 project remained to be a vision/dream/fantasy despite the Japanese economy being the world's second largest and, recently, experiencing a major recovery.

What I am saying here is that, at some time in the future, the GCC Region will experience an economic correction stage after the popping of its own bubble economy. The only difference is that it will not be as bad as Japan's.

All the best wishes for Kuwait, U.A.E., Qatar, and Bahrain. :cheers:

(I am particularly impressed with Qatar, though, since they are not so overly ambitious with their projects in the sense that they have more realistic projects.)

ZZ-II
September 29th, 2006, 01:16 PM
What's with the Mubarak Tower now? is he still up-to-date or not?

q8_shaggy_17
September 29th, 2006, 02:08 PM
yes he is up 2 date, cuz the silk city is now approved so yes mubarak tower is still up 2 date

ZZ-II
October 3rd, 2006, 10:40 PM
wonderful....they must build this tower. is there anywhere a date for construction start?

CrazY
October 4th, 2006, 12:27 AM
^^ still have to wait for the higher planning committee, to know when will they start, but its approved by the cabinet of ministers and by the prime minister and the emir :P

q8_shaggy_17
October 4th, 2006, 11:52 AM
exactly crazy, so they have 2 hurry up with silk city cuz i can't wait :>

qwazy
January 3rd, 2007, 02:01 PM
1852m ‘ethic city’ on the anvil; ‘Eighth wonder of the world’ being planned
By Valiya S. Sajjad - Arab Times Staff
Aug. 6, 2006

KUWAIT CITY: Kuwait will house the eighth wonder of the modern world if the dream project, ‘ethic city,’ takes shape towering more than twice over the ambitious Burj Dubai, the tallest in the world so far. Designed after a desert-rose by an Italian architect Amero Marchetti, the tower, due to be named Al Jaber Tower, will appear like a flower hanging from the heavens on a giant thorny stalk. With an astronomical 1852 meters, the “ethic city” will dwarf some of the renowned skyscrapers in the world.

Amero Marchetti’s agent in Kuwait, Abdul Aziz Al Buainain, talking about the project said “this is too grand a project to go through the conventional channels of planning and approval. The first approval has to come from the Prime Minister’s Office, after which a suitable location has to be chosen to boast an international monument of this stature and significance. “The project will take three months to be studied, two years for drawings and specifications to be prepared and about three to four years for construction after approval. The study of the project will begin in the next two to three weeks,” Al Buainain added.

“The project is still in the ideation stage, and needs sponsors and construction firms to take it further from there. The core team will just be involved in the design and the overall supervision of the project.” The project has been codenamed ethic city, based on the philosophy that has driven its designer to come up with such a concept. Amero Marchetti sees the project as the beginning of a second renaissance, this time toward enriching mankind with a sense of respect for nature, of finding ways to live in harmony with it at a scale never before imagined.

The architect’s fascination for the Middle East “where the civilization of humanity began about 10,000 years ago” inspired in him the idea “that should go down as a watershed in history.” Today the Arab world is bursting with high-rises, and engineering marvels are large writ everywhere, “however, the structures fail to hold the magic of the East with their excessive Western influences.” Ur, in Babylon, had the first tower in the world about 4000 years ago, “which then was an amazing feat.” The time is right for Middle East to recapture its glory and the enchanting novelty of past, Marchetti added.

The Italian architect compared today’s situation in the Gulf to that of the 14th century Florence, where renaissance took birth. Lorenzo de Madichi , the richest man of antiquity, who lived in Florence dared to dream of renewing civilization, which spurred the renaissance movement. “Today the Arab world is rich both economically and culturally, and perhaps is at the threshold of leading a new revolution in the world.”

Marchetti’s germ thought is a reaction to the current energy crisis in the world; the ethic city will draw from recyclable sources of energy from the nature for its everyday functioning. Sunlight and wind will be exploited to cut down the use of electricity. When hot air at the base of the building is driven up via a progressively narrowing shaft to the top of the tower, the air that comes out will have enough velocity to propel a motor to generate electricity required to operate the lifts, Marchetti explained as an example of tapping ambient energy for everyday use.

The core philosophy of this vertical city is about “feeling the breath of the universe and understanding the laws of matter to be able to harness their colossal energies in a manner that even our progenies can enjoy them.”
“It is an ethical challenge, whether we want to reverse the trend of mankind irremediably damaging the natural resources of the earth and making it less livable with every passing day, or if we want to simply add to the atrophy and expedite the end?”

Some builders show an obsession for beauty, even at the cost of logical utility, contends Marchetti. In his point of view beauty has to evolve from the entity’s harmonic utility in the continuum of natural laws, like trees. Plants and sea breeze will also be endemic to this dream city. Marchetti has already been challenged by pessimistic doubters about the feasibility of such a grand project. To them he tells the parable of a sailor who sought to reach his destination by traveling in a direction opposite to the conventional route: his name was Christopher Columbus.

qwazy
January 3rd, 2007, 02:14 PM
I know a thread was done on this before, but, it seems so big :P
So if there is any more/new info. on it, please post it?

By the way, is this suppose to be like a tower, as in a skyscraper? I think they should just make it into an observation tower or something, with just a bunch of lifts/elevators and a few observatory floors, so it requires very little floor space and stuff, and is quick and cheap to build, otherwise a full flege skyscarper this high needs atleast 30 years, not 3-4

q8_shaggy_17
January 3rd, 2007, 05:21 PM
qwazy, do u actually think that this project is gonna be build.....in ur dreams

it's a vision that will never come true, i mean come on....a tower 1800 meters high give me a break......lets be a lil more realistic


it will never happen, and there hasn't been any news about it and there never will be

TRiPLEM
May 25th, 2008, 12:21 PM
http://shots.ikbis.com/image/16761/large/191494_150001.jpg
OK...here is a rumour about a new city design to be built in Bahrain by the renown architect Eric Kuhne the designer behind the famous City of Silk in Kuwait.
Since the so called Jaber Tower is proposed for both Kuwait and Bahrain, I thought it might been true that it might be redesigned by CivicArts for Bahrain.

"Kuhne is an architect and civic planner, but neither description does justice to the massive scale on which he works. His London-based firm, CivicArts, famous for having designed Bluewater, the largest and most financially successful mall in Europe, is today building entire cities from scratch: Madinat Al Hareer (City of Silk), a 750,000-person port city in Kuwait; Mohammed Bin Rashid Gardens, a 200,000-person canal city to be built on 88 sq km of desert adjacent to Dubailand; and a not-yet-announced city somewhere in Bahrain. In Dubai, he is overseeing the International Financial Centre’s expansion into a massive enclosed “urban village” where over 60,000 people will live and work. In Kazakhstan, he is erecting 14 casinos and a presidential retreat around a lake."
Source
Eric’s world - The National Newspaper (http://www.thenational.ae/article/20080501/REVIEW/999751554&SearchID=7331831846708)

R i z u
May 26th, 2008, 11:02 AM
from Wikipedia

http://i29.tinypic.com/160vi4i.jpg

Skoulikimou
May 26th, 2008, 01:39 PM
wiki is not a reliable source of news besides this project is a HOAX

ZZ-II
May 27th, 2008, 07:18 PM
don't see much chances that this tower will be build in the next 30-40 years

q8i_dream
December 13th, 2008, 09:15 PM
hi

q8i_dream
December 13th, 2008, 09:17 PM
on 2025 madinat al harer (city of cilk) well finshed

top speed
February 12th, 2009, 06:51 AM
hi
Latest News on the tower

q8i_dream
April 12th, 2009, 07:54 PM
nothing yet .......

WiGgLz01
September 23rd, 2009, 12:46 AM
Wow, a kilometer high tower AND hopefully a mile high tower, in the same development! Amazing!

iSORROW
September 23rd, 2009, 01:33 AM
lousy fame seeker cliaming thinngs he could not do

q8hm
July 27th, 2010, 03:05 PM
المشروع قوي بس لو تعطوني فكرة هل مشروع هل انه راح ينبني او تكنسل ووين مكانه ؟

charles54
February 19th, 2011, 09:13 PM
heres the link if not posted again

http://www.madinat-al-hareer.com/