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Informations about Niš (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nis)
Informacije o Nišu (http://sr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9D%D0%B8%D1%88)
Sajtovi / Sites:
NisCafe (www.niscafe.com)
Niš.org.yu (http://www.nis.org.yu/)
Niš.co.yu (http://www.nis.co.yu/prezentacije/)
Grad Niš I (http://www.gradnis.net/forum/)
Grad Niš II (http://www.gradnis.com)
Naissus (http://www.naissus.info/istorija.asp)
Niš Tourism (http://www.nistourism.org.yu/index.php?fld=4)
City Map / Plan Grada (http://www.southserbia.com/)
Airport Constantin the Great (http://www.airportnis.co.yu/)
University of Niš (http://ni.ac.yu)
FK Radnicki Niš (http://www.fcradnicki-nis.com/)
Differentia Niš -Site (http://www.differentia-nis.org) // -Forum (http://www.differentia-nis.org/forum/index.php)
Threadovi / Threads:
- Niš Prvi Deo (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=374506)
- Novi Objekti Niša (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=443367)
Special:
Niš Live / Niš Uzivo (http://www.jkpmediananis.co.yu/index2.php?opt1=kamera)
PyRoMaNiAc January 7th, 2007, 03:56 PM These are actually from late 2006, but that thread has been closed.
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Sale81 January 7th, 2007, 04:15 PM Neka nije strasno. Fine slike. Hvala
Sale81 January 8th, 2007, 12:12 PM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdRWuAE47Ug
bosnia1990 January 8th, 2007, 08:40 PM Nis cool izgleda
Rascian January 11th, 2007, 02:12 AM http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a1/asplavsic4/295668872_c6ce818321_b.jpg
Jel ovo Saborna crkva sto je izgorela u pozaru pre par godina?
Sta je sa ikonostasom koji je radio Djordje Krstic. Jel on jos postoji, da li je izgoreo ili se sad u crkvi nalazi neki drugi?
Sale81 January 11th, 2007, 08:41 AM ^^
Da ovo je saborna crkva. I nazalost izgoreo je kompletan Ikonostas.
Evo jedna slika
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urbaNS January 11th, 2007, 06:42 PM Svidja mi se kako je TC Gorča uklopljena sa fasadama objekata ispred nje iako ne obožavam staklo.
Rascian January 12th, 2007, 12:57 AM ^^
Da ovo je saborna crkva. I nazalost izgoreo je kompletan Ikonostas.
Evo jedna slika
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Uh, to je bas bedak. Nenadoknadivo!
ivicasu January 12th, 2007, 02:24 AM Malo sam razočaran. Nisam nikada bio u Nišu ali sam uvek smatrao da je lep. Na ovim slikama me podseća na Kragujevac. A pozorište je :puke:. Jedino Korzo nije loš mada sam više očekivao.
Sale81 January 12th, 2007, 07:37 AM ^^
Sta reci .., juzna srbija - bogata u pi*ku mater...
Sale81 January 14th, 2007, 02:24 PM U centru Niša, na Trgu kralja Milana, uz koncert Željka Joksimovića, vatromet i trubače, okupilo se više od 20.000 građana. Nišlijama se tačno u ponoć obratio gradonačelnik Smiljko Kostić, poželevši im srećnu i berićetnu Novu godinu. Organizator je Skupština grada Niša, zajedno sa predstavnicima nadležnih službi i policijom, koja je preduzela opsežne mere obezbeđenja, a doček u centru grada protekao je bez incidenata.
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Boksa1 January 30th, 2007, 11:52 PM bio sam u nisu dosta puta a u ns samo jednom, jel ima neko ko je bio u oba grada vise puta i da moze da ih uporedi povrsinski, po broju stanovnika su tu negde koliko ja znam
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urbaNS February 27th, 2007, 05:32 PM Prošli vikend sam imao sreće da prvi put posetim Niš na par dana i evo nekoliko najupečatljivijih utisaka pozitivnog i negativnog karaktera:
Grad
Tipičan grad balkanske tipa, sa mešavinom svih stilova koji su prohujali našim prostorima od Kraljevine Jugoslavije do sada. Svidja mi se položaj Niša i to što je okružen brdima koji mu daju neki šmek. Nišava mi deluje prilično čisto i svojim ubrzanim tokom daje neki ritam gradu. Atmosfera je prilično živa u centru i okolini. Svidja mi se glavna pešačka ulica i relativno zgrade koje je formiraju. Ono što sam primetio je da se grad sporo razvija, malo ima kranova, novih gradilišta, ili možda nisam prozujao kroz delove grada gde se tako nešto dešava?
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Siromaštvo
Subota oko podneva, kretao sam se ulicom od stanice prema tvrđavi mostu i centru, ceo taj potez je bio pun preprodavaca i kupaca po kojima se čita sva nesreća koja nas je streafila zadnjih godina. Meni je jasno da je na tom potezu i pijaca, ali improvizovan buvljak na centralnom gradskom trgu, gde se prodaju gaće, čarape i jastuci... to mi nije jasno. Znak da je ekonomija pukla i da je treba oživeti, stvarno ružna slika grada, ne znam zašto njih ne smestite u okvir pijace? Čistoća grada nije na nekom nivou, centar je prilično prljav, o okolini i da ne pričam, potez od tvrđave do arhitektonskog fakulteta bi trebao da predstavlja ukras uz gradsko polje, tvrđavu i igrališta na njoj, ali njih niko ne održava. GAF, takođe, ako da nije dinara uloženo u njega od kako se sagradio. Vozni park je primetno skroman kao i gradski prevoz.Još jedna negativna slika je scena u hodniku nebodera na Niškom bulevaru na koji smo se popeli da bi slikali panoramu. Hodnik, liftovi... kao iz horora. Kako to neko ne sredi malo?
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Gostoljubivost
Nisam naišao na toliku gostoljubivost nigde gde sam bio. Čak mi je u nekim trenutcima bilo i neprijatno od domaćina sa kojima sam se susretao. Čuo sam ranije priče da su Nišlije gostoljubive, ali nisam mogao da predpostavim da će me ta njihova osobina oduševiti. Stvarno se osećam dužnim i kad budem uzvraćao gostoprimstvo, potrudiću se da se osećaju kao ja u Nišu. Ljudi su generalno svi pozitivci koje sam sretao i upoznavao, taj kvalitet morate negovati, svaka čast.
Podzemni prolaz + Kalča
Kada sam ušao u podzemni prolaz i krenuo njegovom putanjom prema kalči mislio sam u nekim trenutcima da sanjam, ili da sam umro :) , stvarno nisam očekivao
toliku dužinu podzemne pešačke zone koja je ispunjena buticima i ljudima. Ljudi je bilo toliko tog subotnjeg podneva da sam imao utisak kao da se nalazim u višemilionskom gradu. Jel u Nišu običaj ili tradicija da se subotom ide u šoping? T.C. Kalča je ispunio moja očekivanja, bio je prepun u vreme moje posete, puno punih kafića, stvarno je sve izgledalo živo, i jako mi se svidela atmosfera. Mada mi se ne svidjaju materijali koji su korišćeni u enterijeru, ali to bi pripisao svojoj profesionalnoj deformaciji, pa sam jednostavno morao da prokomentarišem.
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Devojke
:o Jako su mi se svidele, ali baš jako. Ne volim da generalizujem stvari, ali mislim da su Nišlijke bolje od Beograđanki, bar ovako na ulici koje se daju sresti... Čak su mi delovale opuštene i prilikom mojih "startova" u klubovima, bile su kulturne, kao i ja prema njima a njihov simpatičan naglasak me je osvojio. Ne bi se bunio da postanem Niški zet :) Moderne obučene... da ih ne hvalim dalje, desetka za Nišlijke. Klubovi u Nišu nisu loši. Sviđa mi se što nisam naišao u centru ni na jedan lokal gde se puštaju narodnjaci što kod nas nije slučaj.
Šta ćeš ti ovde?
Pitanje koje mi je kao po pravilu postavljao svaki novi Nišlija/Nišlijka koje sam upoznao. Posle takvog pitanja nismo se ni ja ni oni prijatno osećali, imao sam utisak kao da se nalazim u nekom zaraženom prostoru, a oni se čude otkud mi hrabrosti da uđem u njega. Fali vam malo više lokalpatriotizma, a imate osnova za njega.
Gimnazije?
Gimnazije Bora stanković i Stevan Sremac, dve gimnazije jedna vrata? nije mi bilo jasno o čemu se radi.
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Opšti utisak
U nekim stvarima Niš nije ispunio moja očekivanja, dok je u drugim prevazišao. Jedno je sigurno Niš je postao moj omiljeni grad posle Novog Sada, i jedva čekam da ga posetim ponovo, možda na duže i lepše vreme pa da obiđem ono što nisam stigao. Nadam se da će se dotle neke stvari pokrenuti sa mrtve tačke, ja vam želim sve najbolje.
Živeli :cheers:
Sale81 February 27th, 2007, 07:15 PM Svaka ti cast za ovu reportazu!!!
Kao prvo mnogo mi je drago da ti se sve u svemu svidjao grad i da si se dobro proveo. Nadam se da ces nekada imati priliku leti da posetis grad.
Mnogo je lepsi tada... i cistiji. Barem mi se tako cini.
Nasmejao sam se kad sam procitao to za liftove i hodnike. Sve mi je to poznato. Pogotovo liftovi su u katastrofalnom stanju. A i divlji "buvljak" kod tvrdjave je katastrofa. Kvari sliku grada. Ima mnogo negativnih stvari kao sto si sam primetio ali sve u svemu ima i dobrih.
Podzemni Prolaz i Kalca su generalno uvek puni. Skoro svaki dan je "shopping day". Osim nedelje. Naravno. Za nislijke da ne pricamo... ne zna se koja je lepsa!!!
A fenomen Gimnazija... to je rezultat kreativnog razmislanja. Sta drugo reci.
Jos jednom respect za ovu reportazu.
BL February 27th, 2007, 07:36 PM Interesantan tekst o Nisu. Pomalo stur, ali interesantan.
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BaneLon May 8th, 2007, 08:47 PM :ohno: Gimnazije Bora stanković i Stevan Sremac, dve gimnazije jedna vrata? nije mi bilo jasno o čemu se radi.
Jedna od najstarijih gimnazija u Srbiji 2stevan Sremac" koju sam imao cast da pohadjam...posle II rata pametnjakovici resili da umesto druge smene osnuju novu gimnaziju:2"bora Stankovic":ohno:
HenkMan May 9th, 2007, 03:20 PM Ja sam cesto bio u Nisu, i moram da kazem, mnogo je lepsi nego sto bi pomislio prema ovim slikama. Moram sledeci put da uzmem kameru i islikam stvari koje mi se svidjaju. Imam nekoliko slika sa mobilnog od proslog puta ali mislim da ne pokazuju nista posebno i mnogo su loseg kvaliteta.
Samo sam hteo da pitam ljude iz Nisa, sta se desava sa tvrdjavom? Zadnji put sam se pentrao malo i na podu zidova su obnavljali podne ploce ili nesto slicno.
Sale81 May 10th, 2007, 08:01 PM Neznam da li su Tvrdjavu nesto sredjivali. Nisam bas primetio.
Sale81 May 10th, 2007, 08:10 PM "Magdonland" - Duvaniste // Prvi Deo
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Sale81 May 10th, 2007, 08:17 PM "Magdonland" - Duvaniste // Drugi Deo
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Maxi kod Magdonland-a
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Majevčan May 10th, 2007, 08:20 PM Stvarno dobro izgleda jedino sto mi smeta je u prvom dijelu sestoj slici ona garaza s desna.
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Sale81 May 10th, 2007, 08:27 PM Stvarno dobro izgleda jedino sto mi smeta je u prvom dijelu sestoj slici ona garaza s desna.
To sa desne strane jos treba da se izgradi i nije deo Magdonland-a. Ali sve u svemu ruzno izgleda.
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Sale81 May 10th, 2007, 08:51 PM Fabrika Duvana - Bulevar 12. Februar / Crveni Krst
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Dragan May 10th, 2007, 09:25 PM fantasticne slike!! Samo tako nastavi :okay:
Rascian May 11th, 2007, 04:31 AM Super, bas mi se svidjaju stambene zgrade u Nisu, mnogo bolje nego ono sto se gradi u Beogradu ili Novom Sadu...
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Sta jeovo na kupoli? Jarac? :)
Mali May 11th, 2007, 04:08 PM ^^ Slon
ivicasu May 12th, 2007, 01:29 AM Odlične slike, sviđa mi se ono novo naselje Magdonland. :) Celo naselje je isti investitor sagradio?
Rascian May 12th, 2007, 02:01 AM ^^ Slon
Nisam ni znao da mi trebaju naocare , a sad vidim i neku zebru iza ograde :lol:
Mali May 12th, 2007, 04:46 AM Ma nema, cijeli Safari u Nis da dovedu.
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Dziggy May 12th, 2007, 03:51 PM U dobar Nis... Nikad nisam bio u Nisu, bas me zanima kako izgleda i kakav je osecaj :)
ivicasu May 12th, 2007, 04:34 PM Opet ista pesma. Čim neko postavi slike iz centra, setim se da mi se grad nikako ne sviđa. :( Možda slike varaju, pošto nikad nisam bio u njemu da vidim kakav je osećaj.
podvodni May 12th, 2007, 05:52 PM ^^ nisam ni ja nikad bio... moje poimanje nisa je dosta cudno... video sam nebrojeno slika nisa, ukljucujuci i ove, ali nikako ne uspevam da te razlicite slike povezem u jednu skladnu celinu...
zgradu univerziteta ne mogu da povezem sa onim kucicama preko puta... onaj splav ne mogu da povezem sa nisavom na kojoj pluta, onu tvrdjavu sa panoramom u pozadini...
Dziggy May 12th, 2007, 08:31 PM ^^ nisam ni ja nikad bio... moje poimanje nisa je dosta cudno... video sam nebrojeno slika nisa, ukljucujuci i ove, ali nikako ne uspevam da te razlicite slike povezem u jednu skladnu celinu...
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E ovo si rekao do jaja... I jos plus sto ne mogu da skapiram i kakvi su ljudi, jer je to ipak veliko mesto, a i ljudi koje sam upoznao iz Nisa su stravicno razliciti jedni od drugih. Taj Nis izgleda mnogo istripovano mesto :)
Rascian May 13th, 2007, 04:43 AM :) Ni ja nemam neku definisanu sliku o Nisu.. Kako je rasporedjen centar.. Gde su komunisticki blokovi? Izgleda da u centru iza zgrade Univerziteta ima dosta prizemnih kuca...
Mislim da Nis treba da se koncentrise na gradnju duz Nisave..tj. da formira kompaktan niz zgrada uz samu reku sa obe strane...
kao sto je onaj novi hotel.. To ce efikasno definisati grad i uciniti ga dosta prepoznatljivijim..
Sale81 May 13th, 2007, 10:31 AM Ljudi, sta da vam kazem... Pakujete se i ajd u Nis!
Gledati slike je jedna stvar, a biti tamo, druga. Nis je vrlo interesantan grad a ljudi su fenomen. U dobrom smislu! Posetite ga i vidite sami. Nis je mnogo, mnogo vise nego ove slike. Mnogo vise... Atmosfera i ritam ovog grada su neopisivi.
@Rascian
To i planira nis! Grad se momentalno siri i po keju treba da se gradi jos mnogo!
Dziggy May 13th, 2007, 05:10 PM ^^ Pa kapiram, jedan drug mi je svirao u Nisu na dzez festivalu , za koji mislim da je jedan od najvecih u regionu, Nishvil,to je na tvrdjaci, i fora je sto ljudi tamo stvarno tripuju taj fazon, mnogo je posecen taj festival, a ne rade to ljudi u fazonu radi kulture , nego to odista gotive.
Nekako , deluje mi da ima mnogo toga razlicitoga i da je bas full mesto!
Ne znam, bas cu morati jednom da posetim taj Nish :)
Sale81 May 13th, 2007, 05:34 PM Tvrdjava i Univerzitet
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Sale81 May 13th, 2007, 05:45 PM Kalca / Obrenoviceva / Ul. Nikole Pasica
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Sale81 May 13th, 2007, 05:48 PM Trg Kralja Aleksandra Ujedinitelja
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Sale81 May 13th, 2007, 06:00 PM Trg Kralja Milana (Centar)
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Krytan May 13th, 2007, 08:09 PM Great pics! :cheers:
Hotel Ambasador should get a new facade just like the Usce Tower did. Same with some surrounding buildings.
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urbaNS May 13th, 2007, 10:22 PM preporucio bi vam da skoknete da vidite Nis, bio sam ove godine prvi put i svidelo mi se (upoznaj svoju zemlju da bi je vise voleo) :) Ljudi su gostoljubivi i prijatni, jedino sto mi je zasmetalo sto me je dobar broj njih pitao " sta ces ti ovde ? ", tako da sam se osecao kao da sam iz Monte Karla stigao pravo u Donji Lapovac.
Sale81 May 17th, 2007, 01:05 PM Prvi Deo
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Sale81 May 17th, 2007, 01:08 PM Drugi Deo
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Nishka Banja, topla voda, za Nishlije, ziva zgoda ;)
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Sale81 May 17th, 2007, 01:12 PM Treci Deo
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Sale81 May 17th, 2007, 01:16 PM Cetvrti Deo
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Sale81 May 17th, 2007, 01:19 PM Peti Deo
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ska.pre May 17th, 2007, 02:53 PM svaka čast sale za slike.kad sam bio prošli put u nišu mi se je puno sviđala panorama niša kad se počnije, znaći od izazka od avtoputa možda kakav kilometar.može ko to da slika??
ako se ne varam se od ove crvene tačke sve lepo vidi::D
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BL May 18th, 2007, 10:57 AM jako mi se svidja ovo novo sto se gradi po nisu, a stambene zgrade mislim, a i onaj beverli hils. Dok mi je centar bezveze, tako je nabacan i nesredjen.
Dragan May 19th, 2007, 10:30 AM http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/2947/panoramagradalx3.jpg
panorama grada
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centar grada
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bulevar nemanjica
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duvaniste
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tehnicka skola i fakulteti
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i.... poslednja
HenkMan May 19th, 2007, 11:53 AM Neverovatno koliko izgleda planski gradjeno :D
Inace nekoliko stvari u Nisu koje bih voleo da vidim sredjene:
Autobuska i zeleznicka su teske vukojebine... verovali ili ne u Leskovcu su i jedna i druga izgledale glanc nove :runaway:... ne razumem zasto ne bi moglo to da se sredi
Kada se krene sa autobuske ka centu, pored pijace - UZAS. Isto i onaj buvljak na mostu.
Soliteri u centru oko glavnog trga izgledaju kao da su im visine birane na random... neverovatno ruzna izgleda kada se recimo krene sa tvrdjave preko mosta. Bilo bi fino kad bi Ambasador dobio Usce fasadu, ali to je samo mastarija.
Sale81 May 19th, 2007, 12:22 PM @Dragan: Hvala za slike. Fenomenalne su!!!
@HenkMan: Sto se tice autobuske i zeleznicke stanice, to si upravu! Trebalo bi da se sredi to. A za Hotel Ambasador da ne pricamo :)
Jbga, svaki grad ima svoje mane. Dajte pare - bice bolje :) :) :)
BL May 19th, 2007, 12:52 PM zaradite pare sto da vam neko daje
Sale81 May 19th, 2007, 01:14 PM uredu je...
Naissus May 20th, 2007, 04:47 PM Mi zaradjujemo samo sto Bg vecinu otima.:bash:
Sale je potpuno upravu , Nis je od Bg a maltene nikakav novac dobio za kulturne
projekte na primer,ali je bitno da se u Bg u sve zavrsava.
Ako ne razumes to onda evo ti malo jaci odgovor.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-LC8_Z7frc
Dragane ti imas najneobicnije slike od svih nas,svaka ti cast za to,
slike su bomba.
HenkMan May 20th, 2007, 07:39 PM Kada bi u Nisu bio neki zainteresovani gradonacelnik popravio bi to. Zar je toliko tesko naci par miliona evra za malo ulepsavanja tamo-ovamo?
Boksa1 May 20th, 2007, 07:47 PM ^^ gde zivis ti??? nekoliko miliona eura??? pa gde bre da nadje daj da i ja nadjem ako se to nalazi negde
HenkMan May 20th, 2007, 08:03 PM ^^ gde zivis ti??? nekoliko miliona eura??? pa gde bre da nadje daj da i ja nadjem ako se to nalazi negde
Grad kao Nis moze to da "nadje". U budzetu, kao prvo i osnovno. Ako tu bas nema, mogli su da naprave projekat i traze u nekom fondu za donacije. Potrebne sume iz istih izvora isparuju dok kazes magla.
BL May 20th, 2007, 10:17 PM ^^ slazem se
Sale81 May 21st, 2007, 07:44 AM Fino, fino?!
Kao prvo, gradonacelnik Nisa Smiljan Kostic nije sposoban. To je fakat. Ali fakat je i, da Nis do sada nije dobio sancu za razvoj. Kao drugo, tu diskusiju smo na prvom thread-u vec imali.
E vola:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=374506&page=2
Sami smo krivi sto smo izabrali Smiljana Kostica. Sami smo krivi sto nista nismo promenili. Lenji smo a i dosadila nam vise ta politika. Primecuje se da se "nislija" opustio.
A evo malo komedije:
- Zakon o imovini i sredstvima još nije promenjen. Grad bez imovine.
- Na odobrenje za investiranje u grad sa strane neophodno odobrenje Beograda koje se u proseku čeka 3 godine i 10 meseci!
- I za hvatanje pasa lutalica potrebno odobrenje iz Beograda.
- Dok se u Nišu građani priklanjanju centralističkim strankama, Beograđani u velegradskim mukama.
Kažu da je direktnih stranih investicija u Srbiju samo u prva dva meseca ove godine bilo u iznosu od 737 miliona dolara (Blic, 25. april 2007). Niš za njih nije bio zainteresovan, mada mu ni centralistička imovinska politika ne dozvoljava da se u tom pogledu naročito aktivira. Srbija je novim ustavom dobila okvir za imovinsku decentralizaciju koja bi omogućila da se prekrati onaj prosečan period od tri godine i deset meseci potreban da se dobije dozvola Republičke direkcije za imovinu kako bi se strani novac mogao uložiti na teritoriji grada. Okvir, međutim, ne garantuje baš ništa. U zemljama Evropske unije nećete videti nikakve okvire, jer se oni nad postavljaju stvarima koje se definišu kao osetljive, gde se još ima razgovarati o njihovoj valjanosti. Zapravo, ovim okvirom u novom ustavu se afirmiše Zakon o sredstvima u svojini iz 1995. godine kojim je Slobodan Milošević oduzeo svu imovinu opštinana, bez obeštećenja i obrazloženja. Zakon još uvek nije promenjen, a takav je direktno u službi centralizma, odnosno suprotan politici ravnomernog regionalnog razvoja. Kako očekivati da se region i opština razvijaju ako za svaki dolar koji se želi uložiti mora zahtev da se šalje Beogradu na usvajanje?
Ali gde su otišle te investicije? Može biti da su to investicije koje su bile na dugogodišnjem čekanju, jer ovaj nam zakon i procedura nalažu da ako želimo nešto da gradimo u Nišu 2012, zahtev bi trebalo da predamo najkasnije 2008. godine. Pa ipak, i stari i novi ustav su se pobrinuli za to da grad Beograd ima drugačiji status od onoga kakav imaju drugi gradovi i opštine u Srbiji. Možda se time može objasniti otkud to da se u Beogradu svakog dana ulaže više miliona evra kapitalnih investicija, i što tamo nema zastoja na relaciji grad-republika.
A šta se dešava u Nišu? Novo je to što se gradonačelnik ohrabrio i počeo da hvata pse lutalice iako mu za to nije stigla dozvola iz Beograda. Kao i za kod pitanja imovine, i za ovakvu akciju potrebno je poslati zahtev i čekati odgovor Ministarstva. Na njegovu sreću, iako su mogli da potegnu prijavu, Ministarstvo je izašlo i gradonačelniku i Nišu u susret te su odobrenje poslali u rekordnom roku (nakon nekoliko dana od kršenja zakona). Kad je 21. januara skoro 12% izašlih Nišlija na parlamentarnim izborima glas dalo stranci G17 plus čudili smo se otkud i zašto, budući da je ta stranka upravljala NIP-om kojim je Niš sagledan kao trećerazredno područje. Svakako da G17 ne zaslužuje toliki procenat ni po kom osnovu, ali mi ne možemo da znamo baš sve (bar dok nismo njihovi članovi), možda se oni lepše odnose prema svojim članovima. Tako se ovih dana čekaju redovi ispred lokala niškog ogranka Nove Srbije. Da, redovi za člansku knjižicu. Na prvi pogled normalan čovek bi pitao otkud to da se Nišlija, nakon tri godine Smiljkovog izležavanja, neodgovornosti i lenštine, opredeljuje za člansku knjižicu koju nosi gradonačelnik. Još normalniji ili pametniji Nišlija odgovara da će jedino tako uspeti da dođe do posla u ovom gradu.
Tako, iako Niš nema autentičnu političku instituciju, lokalnu stranku ili nezavisni lokalni medij, autonomnu političku misao i strategiju autonomnog razvoja, vidimo da se u tom gradu ljudi naročito bave politikom. Oni su se prilagodili situaciji i na sasvim novi način shvatili onu poučnu: “Ako se ne budete bavili politikom, ona će se svakako baviti vama”, u stvari postali instrument te politike koju su zvali kurvom. Ali zar bi njih trebalo više kuditi nego one koji su ideološki privrženi takvoj partiji?
Na drugoj strani, tamo kad se prođe Toranj naš nasušni, Jovan Ćirilov se žali jer ima “velegradske muke”. Ne bih da prenesem neverno, jer bi mi se moglo prebaciti da preterujem, tako da citiram doslovno iz Blica (25. april 2007):
“Da sam tih dana hteo sve da vidim što je bilo po beogradskim salama, ne bi bilo mogućno, jer su se predstave poklapale. Tako nisam mogao da vidim «Barokni karneval» jer sam gledao ljubljanskog «Tartifa». Sutradan teorijski nisam mogao da gledam na Beogradskom festivalu igre bonsku «Žizelu» jer sam gledao «Barokni karneval». Onda opet nisam mogao da odem na premijeru «Isidorine izohimene» na Novoj sceni BGD, jer sam gledao u JDP Slovence koji su igrali prvi put u našoj bližoj ili čak daljoj okolini sjajni Šniclerov komad «Prostrana zemlja». Neću vam reći na šta sam se odlučio kuda da odem u četvrtak – da li da gledam Branku Veselinović u monodrami «Detelina sa tri i četiri lista» ili na reprizu Pavićeve «Svadbe u kupatilu», jer nisam mogao na premijeru, jer sam se bio orijentisao na «Anu Karenjinu» Slovenaca...”
A kad se poslednji put Nišlija ili Kragujevčanin mogao požaliti na to da ne može da stigne obići sve kulturne događaje u gradu? Pa i kad bi se takav slučaj i mogao dogoditi (mada je to domen fantastike), on ne bi mogao to da plati. Jednom prilikom je tako ministar za prosvetu odgovorio na skupu prosvetara iz svih krajeva zemlje jednom profesoru iz unutrašnjosti koji je pitao zašto prosvetari van Beograda imaju nižu platu pod istim radnim uslovima: “Gospodo, u Beogradu postoje opere, pozorišta, koncerti, širi izbor koji prosvetar mora da obiđe. Sve to košta. Vi nemate te probleme.”
Ko zeli jos:
http://www.differentia-nis.org
Batalite me sa vase fantazije, realnost izgleda drugacije.
Banjaluchanin May 21st, 2007, 11:32 AM http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/5590/centargradagy5.jpg
centar grada
Ovaj neboder u centru je sličan ovome u centru Banja Luke (i na mom avataru:) )
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Bratski gradovi, nema šta :)
:cheers:
Boksa1 May 21st, 2007, 09:34 PM Fino, fino?!
Jednom prilikom je tako ministar za prosvetu odgovorio na skupu prosvetara iz svih krajeva zemlje jednom profesoru iz unutrašnjosti koji je pitao zašto prosvetari van Beograda imaju nižu platu pod istim radnim uslovima: “Gospodo, u Beogradu postoje opere, pozorišta, koncerti, širi izbor koji prosvetar mora da obiđe. Sve to košta. Vi nemate te probleme.”
to mora da je bio idiot gasa knezevic, kao jednom kada je ekipa ministara na celu sa djindjicem posetila studenjak na nbgd-u, i sad dosli svi u studentsku menzu da jedu na celu sa djindjicem, a becke samo stizu i stizu, a ko je gore ziveo zna da svi studenti cekaju becku ko ozebo sunce, a taj dan stizu li stizu naravno zbog delegacije koja je dosla u posetu, i tad naravno pocinje negodovanje studenata i onda gasa u gore pomenutom stilu kao pa iskoristite sto smo tu pa se najedite. umesto da urgira da poboljsaju hranu ipak je on glavni i odgovorni za sve sto se tice obrazovanja kao ministar prosvete gasa kaze da se mi najedemo taj dan a sto sutra opet nece biti nicega nema veze, ovo je bila mala digresija na gore pomenutog ali lepo i odslikava mentalitet prosecnog politicara u srbiji
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Sale81 May 29th, 2007, 08:17 AM Duvaniste / Trosarina - Ekonomska Skola i okolina
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Sale81 May 29th, 2007, 08:24 AM Ul. 7 Jul / Bulevar Nemanjica
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Sale81 May 29th, 2007, 09:06 AM Vinaverova / Stari Most
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Dragan May 29th, 2007, 10:15 AM odlicne slike :applause: i one slike na prethodnoj stranici su ti odlicne. Svaka cast
BL May 29th, 2007, 10:34 AM super slike.
ali sad cu ja opet zamjerke:)
trotoari, zelenilo, parkiranje i aistoca moraju biti znacajno unajprijedjeni. Jer ovako djeluje haoticno.
Sale81 May 29th, 2007, 10:46 AM super slike.
ali sad cu ja opet zamjerke:)
trotoari, zelenilo, parkiranje i aistoca moraju biti znacajno unajprijedjeni. Jer ovako djeluje haoticno.
Upravu si. Jos mnogo toga treba da se sredi.
Sale81 May 30th, 2007, 10:19 AM Nova rubrika - Hip Hop iz Nisa!
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Mali May 31st, 2007, 04:03 AM Zapusteno.
Sale81 May 31st, 2007, 08:12 AM Otpusteno.
Naissus May 31st, 2007, 02:15 PM Sale ova ekipa repera ima jos jedan spot gde prave zurku oko bazena,ali ja nisam
mogao da nadjem.
ako mozes ti to da nadjes bilo bi extra.
payo August 26th, 2007, 06:11 PM ....poželevši im srećnu i berićetnu Novu godinu...
sorry za OT ali ta riječ mi je zapela za oko...značenje?
CrazySerb August 26th, 2007, 06:40 PM Srecnu i materijalno produktivnu novu godinu;)
renco August 26th, 2007, 10:16 PM tj.sretnu i prosperitetnu :D
P@vle August 27th, 2007, 08:43 AM turcizam.. (: nisam znao da ga srbijanci koriste..
Dziggy August 29th, 2007, 01:10 PM vidis srbija , a narocito nis i juznije , nisu bili pod turcima :) tamo samo govore u turcizmima dole.. :)
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Sale81 September 3rd, 2007, 08:30 AM Trg Kralja Aleksandra
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CrazySerb September 3rd, 2007, 05:32 PM To majstore:applause: Odlicne slike:okay:
Stvarno me je sramota cinjenice da nikad nisam bio u Nisu:(
payo September 3rd, 2007, 09:06 PM odlično sale!! :okay: :okay:
svaka čast,vidi se da si se potrudio sa ove fotke :)
Mali September 3rd, 2007, 10:38 PM OK slike, ali ono sto meni bode oci jesu ti automobili parkirani nasred trotoara. U svakom slucaju treba jos na mnogo cemu da se poradi da bi Nis zablistao punim sjajem.
payo September 4th, 2007, 12:34 AM OK slike, ali ono sto meni bode oci jesu ti automobili parkirani nasred trotoara.
to nažalost nije problem samo Niša :ohno:
na ovim prostorima (mislim na kompletni Balkan) je to uobičajeno...
tonycro September 4th, 2007, 09:52 AM Super fotke :okay:
ska.pre September 4th, 2007, 08:45 PM evo dodat cu i ja jednu svežu sliku slikanu iz trđave:
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ska.pre September 4th, 2007, 08:46 PM moram da kažem da je niš nabolji grad u kojem sam bio.neznam koji grad u bivšoj jugi ima ovoliko undergorund prostorije kao niš=kalča.i nočni život je super!!!!!!!!!!!samo tako dalje:D
ska.pre September 4th, 2007, 08:47 PM .....i još me zanima ako zna ko visinu hotela AMBASADOR i kad če da ga prenavljaju - znači zamenjaju fasadu???
hvala unapred
lindenthaler September 4th, 2007, 09:00 PM moram da kažem da je niš nabolji grad u kojem sam bio.neznam koji grad u bivšoj jugi ima ovoliko undergorund prostorije kao niš=kalča.i nočni život je super!!!!!!!!!!!samo tako dalje:D
Kako to, ajde baci neki manji report :cheers:
Marek.kvackaj September 4th, 2007, 10:16 PM good pictures...Nis looks fine ...thumbs up..
Majevčan September 5th, 2007, 02:03 AM Down with Kalca :bash:
Bulevarac November 15th, 2007, 12:21 AM Red je da malo ozivimo ovaj thread. Za sada samo slike koje sam iskopao na netu.
Autor M. Zivanovic
link (http://www.flickr.com/photos/8538289@N07/)
Nis nocu...
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... i po sugavom vremenu...
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...zatim neki drugi autori
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...pa opet nocu park Svetog Save.
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Autor Stane
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Gradsko sivilo...
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ditrih November 15th, 2007, 02:04 AM Bulevarac
Ti bi mogao da uzmes fotoaparat u ruke i trk po gradu da uslikas kako napreduju svi oni najavljivani projekti:)
Malo ste se vi iz Nishvila olenjili:lol:
Bulevarac November 16th, 2007, 12:07 AM ^^ Eh da nemam ovoliko obaveza, sigurno bih to uradio. Ovako, za sad samo sto stignem usput da slikam, obicno fonom iz kola.
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