good luck na lang.

Pasig River Cruise from Escolta to Valenzuela, Makati - Part 1

I will start here the Part 1 which is consist of 4 pages.

As of August 11, 2008, there are 14 operational ferry stations:


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This is the Philippine Coast Guard station in Pasig River Arroceros, Ermita Manila (south bank of Pasig River),
here a soldier from the PCG boarded the Ferry to make sure that passengers will not take any photos in
the area near Malacanang Palace and the PSG camp in Pandacan side (opposite Malacanang). The soldier
disembarked at PUP Ferry Station.


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From these area near Ayala Bridge till after passing PUP Ferry Station, Ferry passengers were phohibited
from taking photos for security reason.

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Malacanan Palace in 1898.

Malacañang Palace, or officially, Malacañan Palace, is the official residence of the President of the Philippines.
The palace is located along the north bank of the Pasig River in Manila. It is called Palasyo ng Malakanyang in
Filipino, and Malacañan Palace when referred to as the official residence of the President of the Philippines,
and simply Malacañang when referred to as the office of the president, as well as in everyday parlance and i
n the media. The term "Malacañang" is a metonym for the Philippine President's administration, or the
Executive branch. Malacañan Palace is depicted on the verso (back) side of the present-day 20-peso bill.

The Spanish Captains-General (before the independence of New Spain, from which the Philippines was directly governed) and then the Governors-General of the Philippines originally resided in the walled city of Intramuros,
Manila, until an earthquake leveled the Palacio del Gobernador (Governor's Palace) in 1869. At this point,
Malacañan Palace, a summer home originally built in 1802 by Spanish aristocrat Don Luis Rocha, then
subsequently purchased by an official and then purchased by the state, became the temporary residence of
the Governors-General. Governor General Rafael de Echague y Berminghan, previously governor of Puerto Rico,
was therefore the first Spanish governor to occupy Malacañan Palace.

When the Philippines came under American rule following the Spanish-American War, Malacañan Palace became
the residence of the American Governor-General. In 1900, William Howard Taft became the first American Civil
Governor resident. The palace was expanded, and an Executive building added by Governors-General Francis
Burton Harrison and Dwight Davis.

The complex reverted to the President of the Philippines upon the establishment of the Commonwealth of the Philippines, on November 15, 1935. President Manuel L. Quezon became the first Filipino resident of Malacañan
Palace. It has been the official residence of the President of the Philippines since. After his inauguration on
ecember 30, 1953, President Ramon Magsaysay issued an Executive Order formally changing the name from
"Malacañan Palace" to "Malacañang: Residence of the President of the Philippines."

The new nomenclature rapidly caught on and was maintained until informally abandoned during the Marcos administration. During the administration of President Corazon Aquino, for historical reasons, government
policy has been to make the distinction between "Malacañan Palace", official residence of the president, and "Malacañang", office of the president

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This lady is a Konsehala in Paco District of Manila, she is of German descent, I forgot her name. Apparently she got a sister who is a movie actress, since other passenger thought that she is a movie actress. I asked her, and she told me that sister is with the movie industry.



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Part II - From Valenzuela, Makati City to Kalawaan, Pasig City and return trip
west-bound to Makati and Manila.

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Page 2, Part II

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I remembered now that it was Elias who killed the big Crocodile mentioned in Dr. Jose Rizal's novel "Noli Me Tangere". Elias later was renamed as Ibarra in the novel "El Filibusterismo"



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Page 3 of Part II

Return trip West-bound for Makati and Manila Ferry Stations


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The last Ferry Stations in Pasig River Ferry. Perhaps the Ferry route will be extended up to Laguna de Bay in the future.



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I disembarked here in Guadalupe Ferry Stations and walked about 5 minutes to MRT 3 Guadalupe Station for Trinoma Mall where I have a business appointment.



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Maps of Metro-Manila and Pasig River.

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Videos of Pasig River Ferry

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdOGwOHaqp8



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwDWpKzXjQg



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYIgZGZZztU


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ShqVjX5FHk



http://video.aol.com/video-detail/pasig-river-ferry-boat-part-24/3881119258/?icid=VIDURVTRV08


http://video.aol.com/video-detail/pasig-river-ferry-boat-part-44/2231421962/?icid=VIDURVTRV11



“Mutya ng Pasig” is a classical musical poetry by Nicanor Abelardo which tells
about the sad fate of a woman who appears in the Pasig River during full moon.



Mutya ng Pasig by Nicanor Abelardo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxPVxAhHEKs



"Mutya ng Pasig": Rachelle Gerodias, soprano
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JX-Unadw8yQ



Mutya ng Pasig - Conching Rosal
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wF6-i-ROnXU



Mutya ng Pasig - Ingrid Capricho
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkL8TW13qFE


Pls see more photos at the below blog :

http://jibrael.blogspot.com/2009/01/pasig-river-cruise-part-1.html

Ganda! If only pinoys see the TRUE Potential of the Pasig River! And is it me or parang ang linis ng ilog pasig ngayon?!

malaki na talaga ang improvement ng pasig river unlike before

^^ nice improvements! sana mag tuloy tuloy.Thank you for posting all of your pics..

sana di lang pasig river ang mag-improve. Sana yung mga makikita mong buildings/establishments/etc. sa gilid ng Pasig River ay irepaint, irenovate, idemolish na(kung wla na tlga)..basta pagandahin nila yung matatanaw ng mga tao pag nakasakay ka na sa ferry..pati yung mga bridges eh pinturahan ren nila...

I agree...just get rid of the nasty structures and have better landscaping along the river and it should look great!

^^ Thanks for the wow photos! :banana: :banana:

whoah.. dami pics.. ganda :D

buti nlan nakasakay nko jn ..:D

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This lady is a Konsehala in Paco District of Manila, she is of German descent, I forgot her name. Apparently she got a sister who is a movie actress, since other passenger thought that she is a movie actress. I asked her, and she told me that sister is with the movie industry.

She is Cita Astals, Manila Councilor. She is also an actress.

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Binondo estero near Pasig River


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Estero in Sta Cruz


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Malacanan Palace


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OH my goodness!!? Where did you get those?! :drool::shocked:

OH my goodness!!? Where did you get those?! :drool::shocked:

many of those photos were on Digital file in the website of University of Wisconsin and in the website of Library of American Congress.

Americans have a full archive of old Manila pictures and they're coloured too! While in our OWN country where manila is located, we don't even have a single archive of our glorious past.

Sad if you think about it.

Also, thanks TheAvenger for sharing it to us. :cheers:

how many minutes is the travel time from intramuros to kalawaan, pasig? and when will the marikina river ferry line be integrated to the main route?

how many minutes is the travel time from intramuros to kalawaan, pasig? and when will the marikina river ferry line be integrated to the main route?

I remember it is about 1 hour by Pasig River Ferry from Intramuros to Kalawaan Pasig. I am not aware of that Marikina River Ferry. One of these days I will go and board that Ferry and take photos for my Blog and this Forum.

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North bank of Pasig River near Escolta area.


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Escolta Station of Pasig River Ferry.



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Pasig River Ferry Station at Escolta.



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Jones Bridge and Binondo district.



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View of San Nicolas district and Binondo across the Pasig River from Fort Santiago.



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View of Binondo district from Fort Santiago in Intramuros.



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View of Pasig River from Fort Santiago.



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Please see also other photos in the below Thread:


Photos of Manila from Plaza Sta Cruz to Escolta - Jones Bridge
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http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=39782004#post39782004



Ciudad Murada: Intramuros de Manila Thread 3

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=39783512&posted=1#post39783512

View of San Nicolas district and Binondo across the Pasig River from Fort Santiago.



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View of Binondo district from Fort Santiago in Intramuros.






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Please see also other photos in the below Thread:


Photos of Manila from Plaza Sta Cruz to Escolta - Jones Bridge
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http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=39782004#post39782004



Ciudad Murada: Intramuros de Manila Thread 3

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=39783512&posted=1#post39783512

Chinatown district skyline is dense...

Hey there RonnieR!

Those photos are great! Thanks for posting them, I haven't had a clear view of what the area around Jones bridge looks like.

Its unbelievable that the skyline is so dramatically different just a hundred years ago, the skyscrapers are just out of proportion with each other :ohno: o well we can't change that.

They should just have remained constant with the theme of Pasig being classic so that the classic style from Intramuros and the Post Office would look consistent with the entire city.

Those lamps on Jones bridge are mediocre especially that bridge has been really classic and should be restored to its former elegance, not stabbed with red chopticks and tic tac looking lightbulbs.

Plmetzen

Hey there RonnieR!

Those photos are great! Thanks for posting them, I haven't had a clear view of what the area around Jones bridge looks like.

Its unbelievable that the skyline is so dramatically different just a hundred years ago, the skyscrapers are just out of proportion with each other :ohno: o well we can't change that.

They should just have remained constant with the theme of Pasig being classic so that the classic style from Intramuros and the Post Office would look consistent with the entire city.

Those lamps on Jones bridge are mediocre especially that bridge has been really classic and should be restored to its former elegance, not stabbed with red chopticks and tic tac looking lightbulbs.

Plmetzen

Hi there, the photos came from TheAvenger. :) complete set. :cheers:

yung nagtahan bridge kamusta na kaya d ba maganda yung ginawa ni Atienza dun naiiba pa yung ilaw..when i saw that 2 years ago busted na mga ilaw

Thanks to the TheAvenger for all those photos.
Pasig river really plays a huge and important part in our metropolis.

And for those water lilies, if we can not eradicate it sana puedeng kainin
para wala nang gutom sa Kalakhang Maynila!




:horse:

Thanks to the TheAvenger for all those photos.
Pasig river really plays a huge and important part in our metropolis.

And for those water lilies, if we can not eradicate it sana puedeng kainin
para wala nang gutom sa Kalakhang Maynila!

:horse:


I heard Water Lilies helped in giving vital oxygen to the river........ something like that.

Once the Pasig River is revitalized will the water lillies stop growing?

^^ it can become a weed and proliferate excessively and extensively,
blocking out sunlight and oxygen from the water and displacing local aquatic plants.:ohno:




:horse:

Water lilies – or Nymphaea, to scientists – are considered by many to be the jewels of the pond. Not only are they beautiful to look at, but they also serve an important purpose in the pond, mainly in aiding its ecosystem. Water lilies spread across the waters surface, filling it with color and vibrancy all the while keeping the pond and the creatures in it safe and healthy. produce.

Besides being pleasing to the eye, water lilies do a great deal to maintain the well-being of the ponds they inhabit. For one, they provide shade to keep the water temperature down during the hot summer months. By blocking out a lot of sunlight, the lilies help to keep the algae growth down. Their shade also gives shelter to any fish that may be in the pond *– a respite from both the sun and any predators that may be lurking nearby. They also absorb nutrients in the water that would normally feed these undesirable green plants, keeping the water clear and clean-looking.

http://www.exoticwaterscapes.com/water-lilies.php

^^

In the case of Pasig River, it is an eye sore and a hazard to vessels navigating through the river - not jewels.
I believe this water lilies thrive because of the organic content at the bottom of the river ---> pollution!

Hey there RonnieR!

Those photos are great! Thanks for posting them, I haven't had a clear view of what the area around Jones bridge looks like.

Its unbelievable that the skyline is so dramatically different just a hundred years ago, the skyscrapers are just out of proportion with each other :ohno: o well we can't change that.

They should just have remained constant with the theme of Pasig being classic so that the classic style from Intramuros and the Post Office would look consistent with the entire city.

Those lamps on Jones bridge are mediocre especially that bridge has been really classic and should be restored to its former elegance, not stabbed with red chopticks and tic tac looking lightbulbs.

Plmetzen
as i wrote about the manila hotel destruction, we are a most educated and also most ridiculously uneducated people... the lamps were installed on the basis that because they were new they were appropriate...just like the filipino nouveau riche who wears a brand new light suit to a formal morning function instead of a morning attire with striped pants..kasi bago eh..

wrong thread

Dear Water Lilies,

you are green, organic and all, but sorry, you have to go.

much love,
P.R.

how many minutes is the travel time from intramuros to kalawaan, pasig? and when will the marikina river ferry line be integrated to the main route?

The Marikina Station is rusting away. They started the construction and stopped. It is just a skeleton of a foundation. It is under the old Marikina Bridge in Sto. Nino. I think they called it the Sta. Elena Station and supposedly the last station in the Pasig River Ferry system.

Business leaders unite to revive Pasig River (http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=488125&publicationSubCategoryId=68)
By Faizza Farinna Tanggol Updated July 19, 2009 12:00 AM

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ABS-CBN president/COO Charo Santos-Concio, Ayala Corp. president/COO Fernando Zobel, Manila Water president Rene Almendraz (hidden) and Aboitiz Transport System president/CEO Endika Aboitiz listen during the meeting last July 13 of the Kapit Bisig para sa Ilog Pasig. In lower left photo, San Miguel Corp. president/COO Ramon Ang chats with Gina Lopez, managing director of ABS-CBN Foundation.

MANILA, Philippines – Business tycoons managed to find time from their busy schedules last July 13 to help lead the effort to save Pasig River.

Ayala Corp. president and chief operating officer Fernando Zobel, San Miguel Corp. president and COO Ramon Ang, Aboitiz Transport System president and chief executive officer Endika Aboitiz, ABS-CBN president and COO Charo Santos-Concio, SM Investments vice chairman Tessie Coson-Sy represented by SM Foundation executive director Debbie Sy, Philippine Daily Inquirer president and CEO Sandy Prieto-Romualdez, Philippine STAR editor-in-chief Isaac Belmonte, Globe Asiatique president Delfin Lee, Herma Group of Co. president and CEO Hermie Esguerra, Manila Water president Rene Almendraz, and Maynilad president Babes Singson formed the Advisory Board of Kapit Bisig para sa Ilog Pasig, the newest project of ABS-CBN Foundation in partnership with the Department of Environment and Natural Resources through the Pasig River Rehabilitation Commission (PRRC) that aims to rehabilitate the Pasig River and its tributaries.

Kapit Bisig para sa Ilog Pasig (KBPIP) has focused its efforts on Estero de Paco this year.

“Cleaning of Estero de Paco is very important,” said Gina Lopez, managing director of ABS-CBN Foundation. “If we do it in Paco, we will show it can be done. That success will snowball and pave the way for other possibilities.”

The KBPIP has declared the whole 2.9-kilometer stretch of Estero de Paco as a Clean River Zone.

The KBPIP has already begun the voluntary relocation of the informal settlers living along the banks of Estero de Paco. The families have been moved to “Bayanijuan sa Calauan,” the official resettlement site of KBPIP in Laguna.

The National Housing Authority and ABS-CBN Foundation signed a memorandum of agreement to co-manage the 107-hectare Calauan site.

“I am glad that ABS-CBN Foundation has invaluable partners,” declared Lopez. “Working together really renders significant results. This meeting is really about presenting the Pasig project to the Board and have everyone own it so it will really be a kapit-bisig project.”

The meeting was held at Rockwell in Makati City.

The Philippine STAR has also shown unswerving support for the Pasig River project. Lopez has her monthly column in The STAR where she writes about Pasig River from time to time.

More than that, however, The STAR is linking arms with the KBPIP by providing constant media coverage for its activities and achievements.

“The role of media is key in raising the consciousness of people, in awakening hope,” said Lopez. “With such strong backing from the private sector and media, I have no doubt that we will be able to clean this river.”

The Marikina Station is rusting away. They started the construction and stopped. It is just a skeleton of a foundation. It is under the old Marikina Bridge in Sto. Nino. I think they called it the Sta. Elena Station and supposedly the last station in the Pasig River Ferry system.

baka tinigil dahil pangit ang location....o ang gawa..hindi pink :lol:

Rediscover Manila–aboard a Pasig River cruise
By Sunshine Lichauco de Leon
Philippine Daily Inquirer
Posted date: June 14, 2009
http://showbizandstyle.inquirer.net/lifestyle/lifestyle/view/20090614-210390/Rediscover-Manilaaboard-a-Pasig-River-cruise

MANILA, Philippines – “The state of the Pasig River today mirrors the state of the country. And the potential of the river mirrors the potential of the country. It might take a generation to make it happen, but the river, and the country, can be transformed,” said Tourism Secretary Ace Durano as he observed the view from the deck of the Pasig River Ferry.


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baka tinigil dahil pangit ang location....o ang gawa..hindi pink :lol:

You mean pink as in MCF's favorite color? No, I doubt it. I think it has something to do with the Marikina River being so shallow with garbage and debris, the ferry will bottom out.

nasubukan ko na din to sa wakas. the river is not that dirty naman pala. parang singapore river nga eh.. minus the attractions (merlion etc.).. noticeable naman yung pagkawala ng mga squatters along the riverbanks pero may mangilan-ngilan pa din. kung matatangal sana lahat ok na ok. i think its very much possible naman. konting effort pa from the government. sana lang may boats na dedicated for tourists talaga. yung may tour guide na magproprovide ng history at stories about the river. para hindi naman boring.

^^ marami pa kailangan linisin....
pero pag gumanda na ang ilog pasig.. para ka na ring nasa ibang bansa..

Eto yung kuha ko sa mga ferries na dumadaan sa bandang harapan ng Malacanang palace.

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Abolished na nga pala ang Sunday trips sa Pasig Ferry, meaning, No more Sunday trips.

Why?...that can't be good news...

Abolished na nga pala ang Sunday trips sa Pasig Ferry, meaning, No more Sunday trips.

Why ? dapat meron..kasi para sa mga family na gustong mag touring sa pasig river...sayang naman..

^^ Baka hindi kaya ng demand...

GANDA NG RIVER SA COPENHAGEN NO..

Since May pa siya abolished, the reason... lugi raw ang ferry. Just like the midnight runs of MRT-3.

ah gnun ba...baka dumating ang time na tuluyan ng i-abolish ang pasig ferry...
wag naman sana...:ohno:

Gawin nila sana yung disenyo na ginawa ni Palafox para sa Ilog Pasig. Walang mayors na makikialam dapat para hindi mababoy ang disenyo.

ah gnun ba...baka dumating ang time na tuluyan ng i-abolish ang pasig ferry...
wag naman sana...:ohno:

perhaps the government should subsidize the Pasig River Ferry so that more Pinoy will ride the ferry and be aware of the need to resurrect the Pasig River and all other rivers in the country for the sake of the next generation of Pinoy.

^^ hope there would be more support by the people and also the gov..each local government unit should support and promote the station that's in their city because this ferry is not just an ordinary form of transportation,it can also bring businesses and help to boost our tourism.

Since project ni Gina Lopez ang Ilog-Pasig, ano kaya kung weekend, request niya bawat isang artista sa ABS-CBN na mag fans day sa river ferry habang bumibiyahe.

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The old glory was gone long time ago, change is inevitable. It’s now up to us to make change work for us. - jcombalicer






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San kapag bumalik uli yung linis ng Ilog Pasig, kahit yung amoy lang sana ang matanggal, para maibalik yung mga kasko na ginagamit noon. Kamukha niya yung bangka na ginagamit sa Kerala, India na paborito ng mga turista dahil parang floating hotel siya.

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^^ interesting... nice idea! hopefully.. im keeping my finger crossed.

nabawasan na ang masamang amoy sa pasig river....the last time na sumakay ako sa ferry wala akong naamoy na masama....

San kapag bumalik uli yung linis ng Ilog Pasig, kahit yung amoy lang sana ang matanggal, para maibalik yung mga kasko na ginagamit noon. Kamukha niya yung bangka na ginagamit sa Kerala, India na paborito ng mga turista dahil parang floating hotel siya.

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pwede naman nilang gawin to. o kaya mga floating restaurants tulad ng sa loboc river cruise ng bohol. although dapat enclosed at aircon since bka nkakawalang-ganang kumain dahil may part pa ng ilog na mabaho. marami naman possibilities, ang kelangan lang ay mga investors na willing mag take ng risks at be more creative.

nabawasan na ang masamang amoy sa pasig river....the last time na sumakay ako sa ferry wala akong naamoy na masama....


Di ba tuwing tag-ulan, inaagos ng tubig ulan yung maduming tubig at basura sa Ilog Pasig?
Naiipon ang mga basura sa Manila Bay.




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Meron kayang may picture dyan ng estero na initially being clean by Gina Lopez Foundation?

^^ dapat cleaning and relocation of informal settlers sa esteros ang gawin..kasi kung cleaning lang...babalik at babalik ang basura diyan sa estero.

perhaps the government should subsidize the Pasig River Ferry so that more Pinoy will ride the ferry and be aware of the need to resurrect the Pasig River and all other rivers in the country for the sake of the next generation of Pinoy.

^^ hope there would be more support by the people and also the gov..each local government unit should support and promote the station that's in their city because this ferry is not just an ordinary form of transportation,it can also bring businesses and help to boost our tourism.

Agree!:cheers:

^^ dapat cleaning and relocation of informal settlers sa esteros ang gawin..kasi kung cleaning lang...babalik at babalik ang basura diyan sa estero.Correct instead na informal settlers ang nasa tabi ng mga ilog at estero dapat ay mga concrete roads.

Correct instead na informal settlers ang nasa tabi ng mga ilog at estero dapat ay mga concrete roads.

In other countries, riverbanks are protected so much so that any construction near the bank is prohibited except for those government-instituted. Several meters of area away from the river is allotted for vegetation. Others are turned into park. This is better than having a road near the river as in the case of Muelle De La Industria, Banco Nacional, etc. People inside the vehicles especially jeepneys tend to throw anything anywhere while moving. This must be put into law for all Philippine rivers to be saved.

Correct instead na informal settlers ang nasa tabi ng mga ilog at estero dapat ay mga concrete roads.

Tama ka! roads and pedestrian & bike lanes That is exactly the best way to maintain the river bank.




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Tama ka! roads and pedestrian & bike lanes That is exactly the best way to maintain the river bank.


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Bike lanes and walkways are good. I'm for that, but not for roads. Again, look at Muelle De La Industria from Del Pan to Muelle Del Banco Nacional to Jones Bridge to Sta. Cruz Bridge, Muelle De Binondo, etc. These roads must go underground. Plant trees and flowering plants over them. Include willow trees with flowing branches and leaves near the river banks. Create fountains, bike lanes, parks. Put benches and tables. Someday, somehow, students will flock the place to do their studies, relax and do their review things. Art Deco Buildings near the river can be converted into restaurants or dormitories.

Bike lanes and walkways are good. I'm for that, but not for roads. Again, look at Muelle De La Industria from Del Pan to Muelle Del Banco Nacional to Jones Bridge to Sta. Cruz Bridge, Muelle De Binondo, etc. These roads must go underground. Plant trees and flowering plants over them. Include willow trees with flowing branches and leaves near the river banks. Create fountains, bike lanes, parks. Put benches and tables. Someday, somehow, students will flock the place to do their studies, relax and do their review things. Art Deco Buildings near the river can be converted into restaurants or dormitories.

Agree!:cheers:

amen.....although i don't think na naglinis na ang foundation ni lopez...dahil ang tiyak na mga nakikita ko na naglilinis ng mga estero ay ang mmda....dyan ako bumilib kay bf...yung mga estero ay hindi na tulad ng dati....na puno ng basura...although meron pa rin....hindi na clogged ng basura...flowing na ang water sa mga estero ngayon....

Mabubuksan pa kaya ang Marikina line ng pasig ferry? Mahina din kasi ang promotion ng mode of transpo na 'to kaya hindi na-coconsider ng karamihan. Actually, with the current traffic situation at C-5, I'd rather take the pasig ferry going to Marikina if only this line is already operational. I'll save a lot of time.

dapat kasi jan i-advertise pa ng mas mabuti. dapat may Ads sila sa mga dyaryo, magazines at tv stations. dapat alam ng mga tao yung time at schedule ng mga oras ng byahe. yun kasi ang pinaka-crucial eh. kung pupunta kasi ako sa stations tapos malalaman kong 30 minutes pa bago dumating yung boat, matuturn-off lang ako at aalis na lang.

dapat kasi jan i-advertise pa ng mas mabuti. dapat may Ads sila sa mga dyaryo, magazines at tv stations. dapat alam ng mga tao yung time at schedule ng mga oras ng byahe. yun kasi ang pinaka-crucial eh. kung pupunta kasi ako sa stations tapos malalaman kong 30 minutes pa bago dumating yung boat, matuturn-off lang ako at aalis na lang.

meron silang sked every 30 min and departure...hanapin mo website nila para sure ka sa sked...

any news about the Eastwood-Libis station of the pasig ferry? I remember a news article last year that the projected completion of the station was January 09.

meron silang sked every 30 min and departure...hanapin mo website nila para sure ka sa sked...

yep.pero dapat ilagay din nila yung mga sched sa tv ads,dyaryo to create more awareness. btw, chineck ko yung sched nila dati sa internet, tpos pgdating ko dun sa station. hndi naman pareho.

^^Yes,media can do some more to promote this kind of transport.Sayang eh.

^^Yes,media can do some more to promote this kind of transport.Sayang eh.

oo nga if only they have the money for promotions....para maging aware ang riding public...

Ano yung schedule ng ferry during Saturday?

Pasig River ‘alive once again’–biodiversity assessment
Business Mirror
Written by Jonathan Mayuga / Correspondent
Monday, 17 August 2009
http://www.businessmirror.com.ph/home/nation/14719-pasig-river-alive-once-againbiodiversity-assessment.html

THE Pasig River, declared “biologically dead” in 1990, is “alive” once again and several species of fish, birds, trees and aquatic plants are now living in the river and its embankment, a study commissioned by the Pasig River Rehabilitation Commission (PRRC) revealed.

The 110-page terminal report titled “Biodiversity Assessment of Pasig River and Its Tributaries: Ecosystems Approach [Phase One]” declared the Pasig River is not dead since “life still abounds in the river.”

Funded by the PRRC, the study primarily aims to generate baseline data on the status of flora and fauna diversity of the Pasig River, and to assess the effect of the improvement of the river water quality on biodiversity, said Environment Secretary Lito Atienza, who is also chairman of the PRRC.

The biodiversity assessment was conducted by a team headed by Carmelita Villamor of the Ecosystems Research and Development Bureau (ERDB), an attached agency of the Department of Environment and Natural Resources (DENR), from September 2008 to February 2009.

The assessment of the trees and other vegetation in the study revealed the presence of 118 species falling under 94 genera and 42 families. Mango, banana and ipil-ipil were the most dominant in the embankment from the upstream to the downstream direction of the river. Of the species present, approximately 69 percent are exotic and 29 percent are indigenous. Only 2 percent are endemic to the Philippines.

The terrestrial vegetation along the whole stretch of the Pasig River served as shelter and feeding grounds to diverse species of birds, insects and mammals, the ERDB said.

Aquatic plants present in the Pasig River include water hyacinth (Eichornia crassipes), hornworth (Ceratophyllum demersum), kangkong (Ipomoea aquatic) and quiapo (pistia stratoites), the study said. Of these, only water hyacinth is exotic and the three others are all indigenous to the Philippines.

A total of 39 species of birds belonging to 33 genus and 21 families was recorded by the ERDB, wherein 54 percent are resident species, 31 percent are migratory species and only 15 percent are endemic.

“The whole stretch of Pasig River, particularly the vegetated areas such as the linear parks and forest gardens, is an important urban bird area basically for roosting and feeding. The species recorded, therefore, could be considered as urban-adaptable species,” the study said.

Fish inventory revealed that there are eight fish species in the river, majority of which were important food species except for the dreaded janitor fish or sailfin catfish (pterygoplichthys disjunctivus). Food species are kanduli (Manila sea catfish), mamaling (bighead carp), buan buan (Indo-Pacific tarpon), dalag (Snakehead murrel), gurami (Snakeskin gourami), talilong (bluespot mullet) and tilapia (Nile tilapia). Of the eight species, five were exotic or introduced and two other species were native. The Manila sea catfish (Arius manillensis) was the only endemic species encountered by the ERDB.

The ERDB employed multidisciplinary approaches that include biophysical and socio-economic surveys, statistical analysis, data gathering and coordination with various stakeholders such as the Laguna Lake Development Authority and the Environmental Management Bureau.

The first phase of the study focused on main Pasig River from the upstream portion at its inlet in Laguna de Bay and the downstream portion at its outlet to Manila Bay.
The second phase, that will start early next month will focus on the four major and 43 minor tributaries of Pasig River.

mukhang tama ang findings dahil ako mismo i have noticed na meron ng bird flying above the river tapos nag da dive ibig sabihin nun meron silang nakikitang isdang pagkain sa tubig...

may nakita nga ako sa san juan river ang itim itim at ang baho ng tubig, dami pang naka lutang na basura pero may mga ibon pa ding nag didive. :lol:

yep.pero dapat ilagay din nila yung mga sched sa tv ads,dyaryo to create more awareness. btw, chineck ko yung sched nila dati sa internet, tpos pgdating ko dun sa station. hndi naman pareho.

that's right tol, sana tama yung information sa web, pati na rin diagram nang mga routes.

may nakita nga ako sa san juan river ang itim itim at ang baho ng tubig, dami pang naka lutang na basura pero may mga ibon pa ding nag didive. :lol:

baka yung mga ibon immune na sa dumi nang tubig at wala nang pakialam, kailangan na talagang linisin hindi na ito mabuti sa kalusugan...pero meron pa naman pag-asa at least kahit konti meron nang maliliit na isda,wag lang janitor fish.

Yehey! Buhay na uli ang ilog pasig! Ngayon, dapat ng ayusin ang riverbanks nito tapos linisin din ang iba pang ilog within metro manila.

Re: Janitor fish sa Pasig...nakita nyo ba sa Imbestigador yung janitor fish ginagawang patis...:puke:

Re: Janitor fish sa Pasig...nakita nyo ba sa Imbestigador yung janitor fish ginagawang patis...:puke:

oo tol, nawalan nga ako nang gana eh, di na ako nag papatis ang sagwa talaga...di ko ma take ang pinalabas sa TV.:ohno:

may nakita nga ako sa san juan river ang itim itim at ang baho ng tubig, dami pang naka lutang na basura pero may mga ibon pa ding nag didive. :lol:

Siguro malakas ang resistensya ng mga ibon na yon...Hehehe...:lol:

may nakita nga ako sa san juan river ang itim itim at ang baho ng tubig, dami pang naka lutang na basura pero may mga ibon pa ding nag didive. :lol:

Siguro malakas ang resistensya ng mga ibon na yon...Hehehe...:lol:

ibon na mababa ang lipad yung kaya nag da dive...:lol::lol::lol:

Re: Janitor fish sa Pasig...nakita nyo ba sa Imbestigador yung janitor fish ginagawang patis...:puke:

oo tol, nawalan nga ako nang gana eh, di na ako nag papatis ang sagwa talaga...di ko ma take ang pinalabas sa TV.:ohno:

Yuck!!! Thanks for the information. Buti na lang, I don't use patis...

Janitor fish is famous for cleaning the unclean. Lahat ng dumi ng Pasig River, nakain na.

Masarap siguro ang patis.:lol:

maibigay nga na pangregalo yan ngayong pasko.....ano ang tatak para yun mismo ang ipangreregalo ko....:lol::lol::lol:

Baka Jani Patish :lol:

maibigay nga na pangregalo yan ngayong pasko.....ano ang tatak para yun mismo ang ipangreregalo ko....:lol::lol::lol:


Padala mo ang regalo mo sa Malacanang para matauhan silang linisin ang ilog.

Manila Times

Wednesday, August 26, 2009


Informal settlers hope for better life in Rizal

By Ira Karen Apanay, Senior Reporter

Veron Alpapara, 62, used to wake up in the morning in her shanty built along the embankment of Pasig River in Punta, Santa Ana, Manila.Alpapara said that she, her family and her neighbors were content about living there because of their proximity to their workplace, markets and malls.

But their dwellings were small, the neighbor*hood congested, and at times the river emits a foul odor, she said as she described her previous life on the riverbank at Punta.

Plus, she added that the children in the neighborhood were always sick.

In 1997, the government started to talk to informal settlers about relocation, and Alpapara was one of the community leaders who opposed the move. She spent 10 years fighting to be allowed to remain at the bank of Pasig River, clinging to the idea that life there was still somehow better.

Alpapara, the former president of Ugnayan Lakas ng mga Apektado sa Baybaying Ilog Pasig (ULAP) from 1998 to 2007, said she remembered being featured on television, often yelling and fighting those trying to evict them. She laughed as she told stories about those times.

Clean-up drive

In the end, Alpapara and the other informal settlers were convinced by the Pasig River Rehabilitation Commission (PRRC) to relocate to Rodriguez, Rizal, a province adjacent to Metro Manila. It did not hurt that the settlers were offered a house and lot at the relocation site.

In total, the government relocated 80 percent of the more than 10,000 families living along the embankment of Pasig River. The relocation program aimed to help clean up the river by removing the legions of people who dump their garbage and their effluent into the river.

Data from the Department of Environment and Natural Resources (DENR) showed that 65 percent of pollution in the river comes from domestic or household waste, while only 30 percent comes from industrial waste, and 5 percent from solid waste.

In June 2008, Alpapara’s family and more than 100 others moved to the Rodriguez resettlement area, which they christened Villa San Isidro. Another 100 families, also from Punta, moved in early this year.

Certainly, the move was not easy. In other relocation sites, the informal settlers end up regretting the move, because the new community is isolated—far from places where they can find a job to feed their families. And some sites also suffer from a lack of basic facilities—like paved roads—because of poor planning.

Lives transformed

But Alpapara, who is now the president of the Villa San Isidro homeowners association, said that after transferring, her views about life changed.

She added that she wants the best for family, and she had found it in the resettlement site.

She said she valued having more space, enough even for gardening. Plus, the ambiance was relatively more peaceful than along the river, and like before, the residents were working together to build a good community, she added.

“Basta ang isang mahirap na nagsikap, pinahalahan ang ibinigay sa inyo, gaganda at aayos kasama ang pag-unlad ng iyong buhay at komunidad [So long as a poor person makes an effort, gives importance to what’s given to him, their lives and community will improve and prosper],” she said.

Alpapara, also fondly called as “Nanay [Mother] Vener” in the community, said she agreed to relocate because the resettlement area is nearby schools—from a day-care center to high school—the market and church.

“I am proud to say na pinaka maganda ang Villa San Isidro [I’m proud to say that Villa San Isidro is the most beautiful community],” she said.

Commuting to Makati

Joselito Galgo, 31-year-old father of four—ages 11, 8, 7 and 3—also left the riverbank at Punta for a chance of a better life.

Galgo, who works as a messenger in Makati City (Metro Manila), normally leaves his house in Rodriguez around 6 a.m. and arrives at his office before 8 a.m. He usually gets home at about 7 p.m.

He said that he did not mind commuting nearly two hours just to get to work, adding that he feels that his children are safer in Rodriguez than living along the riverbank. Plus, he added that the house they were occupying would eventually become theirs after they finish paying the government.

The Pasig River Rehabilitation Commission partnered with the National Housing Authority (NHA) for the resettlement program. The beneficiaries pay only P342 per month for a 40-square-meter house and lot. And in 20 years, the house they will own the house under the rent-to-own program.

Alpapara said the residents feel secure, as she credited the leadership of the village chairman, Cecilio Hernandez.

The chairman gave her a two-way radio, which has made it easier to communicate with other village officials or to call the authorities and an ambulance when those are needed, she explained.

“Panawagan ko sa mga informal settlers na tanggapin kasi mas gaganda ang buhay nila [I urge the other informal settlers along the Pasig River to accept the resettlement offer, because their lives would improve],” she said. The government won’t force them to move, because they would be given a choice, she added. :):)

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I hope lahat ng squater sa maynila eh tulad ng nasa article. Ayan ang masarap tulungan, alam paano pahalagahan ang sarili. sana dirediretso na ang ingyong pagunlad.

Anyway JPDM did I read right 80% na yung relocated? wow thats a feat considering the numbers of informal settlers along the river bank. Sana eto na ang simula ng pagkakalinis ng Pasig at next in line eh Laguna de Bay at Manila Bay.

Included ba sa clean up ang mga tributaries ng maynila or pasig river lang muna?

Yuck!!! Thanks for the information. Buti na lang, I don't use patis...

Janitor fish is famous for cleaning the unclean. Lahat ng dumi ng Pasig River, nakain na.

Masarap siguro ang patis.:lol:

hinahanap ko nga sa youtube at baka meron video clip on that episode na pinalabas sa imbestigador para naman ma panoon nang ibang forumers dito at makita nila yung tinutukoy natin na "janitor patis".

nakita ko na yung video enjoy mga tol part 1 "janitor fish patis"
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ito yung part 2 "janitor fish patis"
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ito yung last video nag enjoy ba kayo ang sagwa no, mag papatis pa ba kayo?
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^^yummers... :cheers: (drinking patis)

Thanks for the video c6josh! I don't use patis in cooking or as sawsawan, but then, I'm not sure with those food I buy everyday from our canteen. The insider disclosed that they have already made deliveries of fish sauce made from Janitor fish. Grabe! Wala nang hugas-hugas, diretso sa gilingan with those mud, dirty water, etc. Kahit papano, basta kumita lang. Dapat sa kanila, ilublob sa patis! I bet, 'yong owner, 'di gumagamit ng patis. :bash:

Anyway, let's just hope that someday, Pasig River will again provide fish fit for eating.

nakita ko na yung video enjoy mga tol part 1 "janitor fish patis"
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Nyiiiii... Di ko kaya tapusin tong video. Nakakakilabot itsura pa lang...

Anything caught or harvested from the Pasig River is not fit or safe for consumption at this time.

The water in the river has high concentrations of toxic heavy metals and coliform bacteria
from untreated sewage and industrial waste that is draining in to the Pasig River.


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Nyiiiii... Di ko kaya tapusin tong video. Nakakakilabot itsura pa lang...


hahaha sabi ko nga ba eh. kain tayo nang palabok special.:lol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5T7eopENZfk
ANDAMING BISIKLETA!!!!
panoorin nyo to yung daluyang-tubig nila malinis,bakal yung bakod nya na may disenyo hindi katulad sa atin na concrete,bricks ang ginamit sa kalsada instead na plain na semento...

Anything caught or harvested from the Pasig River is not fit or safe for consumption at this time.

The water in the river has high concentrations of toxic heavy metals and coliform bacteria
from untreated sewage and industrial waste that is draining in to the Pasig River.


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Adding to its extreme acidity level which is also beyond the limits. That's eating up the boat hulls when left in the river for extended time.

I learned about this issue just few weeks back. We were involved in testing of the finished products to certify whether they are made from janitor fish or not. I was told which brands have been using this but it slipped off my nutshell now. (Not sure if the vid revealed the brands) Just let those fished mind their own business at the abbyss of the river - where they can do what they can do best.

maging lesson yan sa mga bumibili ng patis sa palengke ng tingi-tingi....

no, the patis in question are the branded ones. that's why the news was so sensationalized. baka nga mas ok pa yung mga patis at bagoong sa palengke na nanggaling sa pangasinan. hehe...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5T7eopENZfk
ANDAMING BISIKLETA!!!!
panoorin nyo to yung daluyang-tubig nila malinis,bakal yung bakod nya na may disenyo hindi katulad sa atin na concrete,bricks ang ginamit sa kalsada instead na plain na semento...

Thanks for the clip. No, marumi rin ang creek nila. Although Pasig River is murkier. They can use railings because they leave the banks open unlike here in Metro Manila, maraming barung-barong ang nakasabit.

no, the patis in question are the branded ones. that's why the news was so sensationalized. baka nga mas ok pa yung mga patis at bagoong sa palengke na nanggaling sa pangasinan. hehe...

^^sana naman magsagawa yung DOH ng studies on patis products baka kasi maraming bacteria na hindi natin nalalaman. at mag post ng list sa kanilang website yung safe to consume patis products.

pagkatapos makuha lahat ng basura sa river, marelocate lahat ng tao sa tabi ng ilog pasig, mahinto yung pagtatapon ng chemicals etc.....ano na po'ng sunod na gagawin sa pasig river para luminis na ulit?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5T7eopENZfk
ANDAMING BISIKLETA!!!!
panoorin nyo to yung daluyang-tubig nila malinis,bakal yung bakod nya na may disenyo hindi katulad sa atin na concrete,bricks ang ginamit sa kalsada instead na plain na semento...

Amsterdam has a pretty cool climate, it'd be comfortable to bike to and from work, but with the heat of manila and the pollution, that's a different story. maybe if they line the entire pasig river with wide sidewalks and huge trees, then people would use it for biking and even walking to and from work. I would :)

pagkatapos makuha lahat ng basura sa river, marelocate lahat ng tao sa tabi ng ilog pasig, mahinto yung pagtatapon ng chemicals etc.....ano na po'ng sunod na gagawin sa pasig river para luminis na ulit?

Mag hire ng isang batallion na swiming pool cleaners, their task is to clean the river like they clean the swimming pools :lol:

Amsterdam has a pretty cool climate, it'd be comfortable to bike to and from work, but with the heat of manila and the pollution, that's a different story. maybe if they line the entire pasig river with wide sidewalks and huge trees, then people would use it for biking and even walking to and from work. I would :)

Para mangyari ito, baka pwedeng magreclaim ng tig-anim na metro sa magkabilang gilid ng ilog Pasig. Sa ganito, masisigurado na ring wala nang makatira sa mga gilid nito. kung gagawing parke at biking lane. :)

i think dredging works are being done at the moment. we got the contract of monitoring the water qaulity but i don't know for how long.

Para mangyari ito, baka pwedeng magreclaim ng tig-anim na metro sa magkabilang gilid ng ilog Pasig. Sa ganito, masisigurado na ring wala nang makatira sa mga gilid nito. kung gagawing parke at biking lane. :)

Alam ko may batas na dapat 10 meters ang isang itatayong structure from the riverbanks, I'm not sure though.

dapat talaga irelocate lahat ng mga bahay malapit sa ilog. Hindi toilet and pasig river.

tawagin na si bf para marelocate na yan..:lol:

tawagin na si bf para marelocate na yan..:lol:

Well, if the shanties would be relocated, they must also include those factories and industries along the rivers and creeks - e.g. Unilever, Oil depots, etc.

Reclaiming land from the river is a good idea, lalo na in those portions where the river is wider than usual. Make them as parks. Get rid of those barges along the banks - ginagawa na 'tong mga bahay! Their occupants contribute to domestic waste being absorbed by the river.

Let humans clean the river. Huwag nang umasa sa mga Janitor Fish! Wala na silang silbi sa paglilinis. Ginagawa na lang sila ngayong patis!

The local governments must build public toilets or donate toilet bowls, etc. to every barangay along creeks and rivers. Demolish hanging latrines along the banks and under the bridges.

Build water-purifying stations in designated places along rivers and creeks (kung posible ito). In due time, the water would be clearer than what we have today.

AFP supports rehabilitation of Pasig River
By Faizza Farinna Tanggol (philstar.com) Updated September 09, 2009 12:00 AM


MANILA, Philippines - Contingents from the Armed Forces of the Philippines (AFP) headed over to “Bayanijuan sa Calauan,” the official resettlement site of Kapit Bisig Para sa Ilog Pasig (KBPIP), to show support for the Pasig River cause, sealing their long-term commitment through a memorandum of agreement (MOA) last Aug. 24.

Present during the signing were ABS-CBN Foundation Inc. managing director Gina Lopez, AFP chief Gen. Victor Ibrado, AFP civil-military operations deputy chief of staff Maj. Gen. Reynaldo Sealana, and Bayanijuan head Mariles Gonzales.

The AFP has generously agreed to provide manpower to help complete the housing units in Bayanijuan sa Calauan in Laguna and logistical support for the Philippine International Marathon: A Run for the Pasig River on Nov. 8.

The AFP has also committed to conduct medical-dental missions in Bayanijuan sa Calauan at least once a year.

The military has been cooperative in the actual relocation efforts way before formalizing its partnership with the KBPIP, consistently lending military trucks to transport the relocatees.

“There are people who don’t know what the Armed Forces represents,” Ibrado said.

“Now, they can see that the soldiers are also people, we are also Filipinos. We are prepared to help citizens in whatever way. We are prepared to not only give them protection against bad elements in the society, but also help them in their livelihood,” he added.

After the signing, the AFP contingents manifested their commitment to the partnership by holding a community day in the resettlement site by declogging drainage canals, sieving sand, clearing overgrowth, and painting houses.

“This collaboration is very important,” said KBPIP volunteer services officer Larah Ortega-Ibañez. “As the Armed Forces of the Philippines, they are mandated to provide security, but more than that, to also uphold the welfare of our countrymen. The civil-military operation is a vital arm where they do community service – that is what we at KBPIP are tapping.”

On March 2008, the ABS-CBN Foundation Inc. and the Department of Environment and Natural Resources signed an MOA for the rehabilitation of the Metro Manila river basin, with initial focus on Pasig River and its tributaries. This gave birth to Kapit Bisig Para sa Ilog Pasig, which was formally launched last February.

Since June this year, the KBPIP has begun its own relocation operations for the families living near the banks of Estero de Paco. To date, 221 families have been relocated to Bayanijuan sa Calauan.

The ABS-CBN Foundation and the National Housing Authority also signed an MOA to co-manage the 107-hectare resettlement site.

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Find out how you can help. Call KBPIP at its Bayan hotlines 410-2753 to 55 or e-mail at ilogpasig@abs-cbn.com or kapitbisigparasailogpasig@gmail.com. Contribute to Piso Para sa Ilog Pasig by texting GIVE ILOG to 2366 for Globe, TM, Smart, Talk ‘N Text, and Sun Cellular, or deposit directly at BDO account number 393-0078222, Scout Albano, Quezon City branch.

pagkatapos makuha lahat ng basura sa river, marelocate lahat ng tao sa tabi ng ilog pasig, mahinto yung pagtatapon ng chemicals etc.....ano na po'ng sunod na gagawin sa pasig river para luminis na ulit?

The river will heal itself after dredging at kung wala nang magtatapon ng basura at chemicals doon. Kahapon lamang nasa tabing ilog ako sa Marikina, ang daming City maintenance workers namumulot ng basura sa tabing ilog pero sa ilog nila itinatapon ang mga basurang napupulot nila. Bakit hindi ilagay sa sako at itapon sa land fill.

^^ sana ni-report mo ka-agad kay Mayor.





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The newest way to rediscover Manila

by Lito Cinco
Manila Standard
September 17, 2009

Considering the ever-worsening vehicular traffic in Metro Manila, it is surprising that commuters have not yet fully discovered the convenient and traffic-free way of moving around the metropolis using the Pasig River ferry boats.

The truth is, this ferry service—with its six airconditioned boats stopping at 10 stations from Napindan in Pasig to Intramuros in old Manila—has been operating for a little over a year already but still just averages 2,000 passengers a day, 3,000 during Fridays. A small number compared to the total number of people who move around Metro Manila everyday.

But with the recent launching of the Department of Tourism’s Pasig River Cruise Program in collaboration with the Pasig River Rehabilitation Program Commission of the Department of Environment and Natural Resources and the Nautical Transport Service Inc. which operates the ferry service, awareness for this alternative transportation system is expected to increase not just for commuters but even for local and foreign tourists who may want to experience a different way of experiencing Manila’s historical attractions

This writer was part of the media group that was invited by the DoT to join the program launch. The trip took us from the Guadalupe station all the way to Plaza Mexico near the mouth of the river (nearing Manila Bay). Along the way we stopped over in Sta. Ana to visit the old church and the nearby ancestral house of Doña Cornelia Lichauco just beside the river, and enjoyed the spectacular sunset.

Tourism Secretary Ace Durano has thrown his support behind the project saying, “We would like to create awareness for the cultural and historical significance of the river and we are doing consultations with the private sector like Philtoa, PTAA, Naitas, and FTIP to develop Pasig River tour packages, as such we are encouraging the holding of familiarization tours for local and foreign agents and media to generate awareness for this program.”

“This is a new and timely tourism product following the rehabilitation of the Pasig River that now has become a cleaner river. What we want is for tourists to rediscover the beauty of this historical river and as added attractions. We will arrange for the setting up of flea markets in some stations while we also train tourist river guides,” said director Elizabeth Nelle of the DoT’s Office of Product Research and Development.

Also present at the launch was Deogracias Tablan of the Pasig River Rehabilitation Commission who admonished that while “government, thru the DENR and the DPWH, is doing its part [like the dredging of the river and repair of the riverbanks], we also need to stop the dumping of garbage into the river.”

For his part, Eduardo Bondad, president and chief executive officer of the Nautical Transport Service Inc., shared his company’s plans for the future, including faster river taxis which would be smaller than the present boats they are using and even reconfiguring the boat designs to cater to people who may want to charter the boats for private parties. “There is still a lot of work to be done. Pasig River, which connects Laguna de Bay to Manila Bay, has 43 esteros that need to be cleaned. More linear parks need to be constructed along the river banks, and make people more aware of what is being done for the river.”

Glimpse of the past

As a sample of what the tour will be offering, we were given a glimpse of the past during a quick stopover at Sta. Ana church, whose altar, we learned, was made from part of the galleon that brought the image of the Lady of the Abandoned to Manila from Spain. It still has the original porcelain tiles at the back, as well as the almost 300-year-old original ceiling painted back in 1720, with images depicting religious events.

We also visited the old house of Doña Consuela and met her granddaughter Sylvia, who toured us around her home, pointing out the over a hundred-year-old Banyan tree at the back of the house while showing the family memorabilia inside.

And to think that there are a lot of other attractions for tourists in the other stations along the way, like seeing Malacañan Palace, Hospicio de San Jose, Intramuros, Escolta, and all the bridges spanning the river and connecting the different parts of Metro Manila.

Stroll through architectural history

What is good is that NTSI is now offering a whole day Cruise Day Pass for only P100. This will enable a user to get on and off in any station throughout the day. For example, one could start off after breakfast at the PowerMall Plant in Makati and take the cruise from there, get off at Sta. Ana to visit the church, then proceed to Intramuros and stay for a couple of hours in the area, visiting the Manila Cathedral, San Agustin Church, the San Luis Plaza complex, and the three museums in the area.

Lunch could be at any of the Chinese restaurant in the Binondo-Chinatown area, followed by a stroll around the colorful place, making sure that a visit to the Binondo Church is included in the itinerary. The area is a veritable showcase of old architectural masterpieces like the Philippine Trust Building, Regina Building, the Capitol Theater, and the Calvo Building, which houses a museum. If your feet are still willing, from Binondo, head on to the Divisoria Mall near Juan Luna, which is always open to shoppers.

Just make sure that you are in place to see the famous Manila Bay sunset before calling it a day.:cheers::)

San Miguel gives hope to Pasig River settlers
By James Mananghaya (The Philippine Star) Updated September 20, 2009 12:00 AM

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Eighty-three-year-old Angela Garcia beams
as she shows her new home at the Bayanijuan
housing project for Pasig River settlers in
Calauan, Laguna.



CALAUAN, Laguna, Philippines – Poor people who used to live along the banks of the Pasig River continue to receive not just new homes but a chance at a better life.

Food and beverage giant San Miguel Corp. (SMC) has donated P21 million for the construction of a new village inside the Bayanijuan sa Calauan housing project in Barangay Dayap here that will benefit residents relocated from Estero de Paco in Manila.

SMC will sponsor 300 new houses with the amount, which was turned over to the beneficiaries and witnessed by ABS-CBN Foundation managing director Gina Lopez and Calauan Mayor George Berris.

The houses will be completed by December.

Aside from shelter, the beneficiaries will also receive livelihood packages, according to SMC president and chief operating officer Ramon Ang during his visit here last Wednesday.

“We will provide them with livelihood. We will build a poultry farm here and establish a cooperative that would run it,” Ang announced to the delight of the beneficiaries.

The housing project is part of ABS-CBN Foundation’s Kapit Bisig Para sa Ilog Pasig, a move that aims to rehabilitate the murky river.

Those who have relocated here have started small livelihood projects like handicraft and furniture making and vegetable farming.

Some out-of-school youth were also given free training by the Technology Education and Skills Development Authority (TESDA) in electrical work and other vocational courses.

At present, 271 families from Estero de Paco have been relocated to this former National Housing Authority (NHA) property.

Ang, who was delighted at the progress of the projects, bought 3,000 pieces of bags and picture frames made by the residents.

He also promised to provide basic medical equipment for the village clinic.

The Kapit Bisig Para sa Ilog Pasig started in March 2008 when the ABS-CBN Foundation and the Department of Environment and Natural Resources forged an agreement to rehabilitate the river.

http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=506875&publicationSubCategoryId=63

sana nga tuloy tuloy na...ang pag ayos ng pasig river....:)

Any updates on the river? How does it look now?

I have high hopes on Revitalization Project of Pasig River under Bantay Kalikasan of Gina Lopez...:) I believe we can finally do it this time.

First, Gina Lollobrigida,
Then Gina Pareno,
Now Gina Lopez
I sure hope she is not followed by Gina Tan. :banana:

First, Gina Lollobrigida,
Then Gina Pareno,
Now Gina Lopez
I sure hope she is not followed by Gina Tan. :banana:

Try natin si Gina Gatasan...

Hindi naman kahabaan ang Ilog Pasig, kaya lang habang ito ay dumaloy, dito itinatapon yung mga basura ng mga naninirahan sa tabi nito, at pati na rin yun tubig na hindi treated galing sa mga fabrica at mga bahay bahay.

Kaya para mabawasan ang karumihan ng Ilog Pasig, kolektahin ang mga basura ng sanitation department upang ito ay hindi maitapon sa Ilog, itinigil ang pagtatapon ng untreated water, at patawan ng parusa ang susuway.

kung itoy masusunod, ilang tag-ulan lang, mas magiging malinis na ang Ilog Pasig. IMO



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"kolektahin ang mga basura bago ito itapon sa Ilog"

You are saying we should throw garbage into the river in bulk not in piecemeal. :bash:

^^ what I was trying to say: before anyone can have a chance to throw grabage in the river, it should be collected regularly by the sanitation department.




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at least now meron ng nangyayaring improvement sa mga lugar na yan...nag improve na ang water quality nya...hindi na tulad ng dati...siguro natatauhan na rin ang mga eng eng na pinoy

yup.. the Pasig River has been cleaner this past year or so compared to a few years back that the river turns black... nowadays.. it is brownish with lilies... and people along the river can also do fishing.. they catch huge janitor fishes and big white fishes called imelda...

^^ Those janitor fishes are known to be harmful to the river, along with the lilies

Good thing these fishes named Imelda have fins and tails, not feet. Otherwise Marikina with its shoe industry would be thriving exponentially.

Good thing these fishes named Imelda have fins and tails, not feet. Otherwise Marikina with its shoe industry would be thriving exponentially.

Sana nga paa na lang e para manatiling buhay ang industriya ng sapatos doon... baka umahon pa sila sa ilog.

Anyway, naging floodway talaga ang Pasig River nitong past few days dahil sa tindi ng baha. Lahat ng baha at basura bumuhos sa Ilog Pasig kasama ng mga natangay na sasakyan at tao.

For sure madaming na wash out na shanties along Pasig River side during Bagyong Ondoy. I hope government would take this opputunity not to let those people to come back in the riverside for thier own sake and for Pasig River rehabilitation. The NHA can provide the resetlement.

I agree with you. Illegal settlers at the bank of Pasig river, creaks, and flood ways should not be allowed to rebuild. They need to be relocated ASAP.
Most local government (mayors like Binay) are notorious for allowing the illegal settlers to block the water passage. Alisin na yung ganitong mentality.

^^ Those janitor fishes are known to be harmful to the river, along with the lilies

Guess who imported those devil fish from Africa? Wala nyan sa ilog natin until somebody had this bright idea to bring them into the country as a counter measure to another mess named water lilies. Ang sabi nila uubusin daw nitong mga janitor fish ang water lilies sa Marikina River.

Guess who imported those devil fish from Africa? Wala nyan sa ilog natin until somebody had this bright idea to bring them into the country as a counter measure to another mess named water lilies. Ang sabi nila uubusin daw nitong mga janitor fish ang water lilies sa Marikina River.

Who? I don't have any idea. Just like the janitor fish in which purpose is to clean a fish tank, they thought these fish-sauce ingredients would clean Pasig River in due time.

I agree with you. Illegal settlers at the bank of Pasig river, creaks, and flood ways should not be allowed to rebuild. They need to be relocated ASAP.
Most local government (mayors like Binay) are notorious for allowing the illegal settlers to block the water passage. Alisin na yung ganitong mentality.

Buti kung irelocate nga sila. Malapit na eleksyon, botante ang mga illegal settlers kaya di basta-basta pakakawalan ng mga incumbent mayors yan.

Alabama and other nearby states are now up in arms for they too were invaded by snake looking fishes. They cursed these fishes and wish they would go away and disappear.

I say catch them and export them to the Philippines. Filipinos will eat these dalags.

Who? I don't have any idea. Just like the janitor fish in which purpose is to clean a fish tank, they thought these fish-sauce ingredients would clean Pasig River in due time.

It was Bayani Fernando, I am sad to say, who imported these janitor fish from Africa.

What exactly is wrong with Janitor fish? Maybe they are the rats of the river but they do help to clean up the Pasig. Without them, the river could be much dirtier than it is today.

Bayani Fernando, the Metropolitan Manila Development Authority chief who is responsible for flood control in the capital, said that among the major factors in the flood were poor city planning, illegal structures and simple geography.

"Our problem is we live where we should never have lived," he said.

Manila, which like most of the country lies on the Pacific typhoon belt, is bisected by the Pasig and Marikina rivers whose waters connect Manila Bay to the west with a huge lake, Laguna de Bay, to the east.

Some areas of the city lie below sea level, sit on silt and rely on pumps to keep the water out, while the eastern district of Marikina, ground zero of the disaster, is a valley surrounded by the Sierra Madre mountain range.

He said obstructions, either caused by squatters putting up illegal structures or rich landowners encroaching on land such as riverbanks that allow natural drainage, should be removed.

"If we want to stop this, we have to remove all the things that are obstructing the waters," Fernando said. With reports from Reuters and Agence France-Presse

Bayani Fernando, the Metropolitan Manila Development Authority chief who is responsible for flood control in the capital, said that among the major factors in the flood were poor city planning, illegal structures and simple geography.

"Our problem is we live where we should never have lived," he said.

Manila, which like most of the country lies on the Pacific typhoon belt, is bisected by the Pasig and Marikina rivers whose waters connect Manila Bay to the west with a huge lake, Laguna de Bay, to the east.

Some areas of the city lie below sea level, sit on silt and rely on pumps to keep the water out, while the eastern district of Marikina, ground zero of the disaster, is a valley surrounded by the Sierra Madre mountain range.

He said obstructions, either caused by squatters putting up illegal structures or rich landowners encroaching on land such as riverbanks that allow natural drainage, should be removed.

"If we want to stop this, we have to remove all the things that are obstructing the waters," Fernando said. With reports from Reuters and Agence France-Presse

Tama!

What exactly is wrong with Janitor fish? Maybe they are the rats of the river but they do help to clean up the Pasig. Without them, the river could be much dirtier than it is today.

The thing is, these are not endemic species and some multiply rapidly and are aggressive. Similar to the tilapia which is also not endemic to our country. They are now found in Taal lake as such endangering native species such as the tawalis which are decreasing in numbers. The janitor fish are being a problem in some areas in Laguna where houses that are located in creeks or river banks for they burrow in the soil or in the side of the banks, thus weakening the sides or the banks. This is called biological pollution, where non-endemic species threatens the endemic inhabitants of an area. Some species like in New Zealand where put in the endangered list or became extinct because of this. This is also a problem in the US, thus the strict control in the agricultural or related sector.

And also, this is like the dumb ass idea a few years ago, where something similar like this typhoon happened. The present Sec. of Energy, then I believe was the Sec. of DENR, had the very brilliant idea of importing trees from China and planting them on our mountains.

It is now an accepted fact, as far as I know, that the best flora and fauna to repopulate an area are those that are found or original (endemic) to the area.

And also, this is like the dumb ass idea a few years ago, where something similar like this typhoon happened. The present Sec. of Energy, then I believe was the Sec. of DENR, had the very brilliant idea of importing trees from China and planting them on our mountains.

It is now an accepted fact, as far as I know, that the best flora and fauna to repopulate an area are those that are found or original (endemic) to the area.

Agree here.:cheers:

It was Bayani Fernando, I am sad to say, who imported these janitor fish from Africa.

Is this true?

...those same species (janitor fish and tilapia) have ruined Hawaii's streams and displaced native freshwater fauna in many, many places.

O just lament the fact na pag ganitong disaster and bilis makalipon ng pondo para sa relief operations pero para sa pag-aayos at paglilinis ng Ilog Pasig, ang bagal ng paglikom ng pera, na kung tutuusin sya sanang ginagawa para mabawasan o maiwasan ang mga ganitong klaseng pagbaha. Masyado tayong reactive sa mga problema. Hindi natin pinagtutuunan na mabigyan ng sulosyon ang problema bago pa man ito mangyari.

Tulad ng pagkakalap ng pondo sa "Kapit Bisig para sa Ilog Pasig". Ilang buwan na itong inilunsad pero kakarampot pa lang ang nagbibigay para dito - less than a million yata after a month. Pero yung pagkatapos ng Bagyong Ondoy, nakalikom sila ng 30+ million in 4 days. I commend their efforts para matulungan ang nasalanta pero hindi ko maiwasang isipin ito. Kung meron sanang ganitong pondo bago pa man mangyari ang trahedya, eh di marami nang squater ang nailikas sa ilog at napondohan din ang pagsasaayos ng mga estero para mabawasan ang pagbaha.

Is this true?

Yes it is.

What exactly is wrong with Janitor fish? Maybe they are the rats of the river but they do help to clean up the Pasig. Without them, the river could be much dirtier than it is today.

I was in Maryland when there was an incident of a janitor fish being released by an acquarium owner and the fish was able to crawl into a small lake that is connected to the Potomac River. The state of Maryland has to completely drain the lake so as to get rid of this invasive fish so as to save Potomac River from further infestation.

Dapat pala i-drain din ang laguna de bay. I-dredge ng todo para lumalim uli, patayin ang mga peste at ibalik uli ang tubig... Parang swimming pool ba :lol:

Dapat pala i-drain din ang laguna de bay. I-dredge ng todo para lumalim uli, patayin ang mga peste at ibalik uli ang tubig... Parang swimming pool ba :lol:

This is a very expensive activity seeing that Laguna de Bai is big. I think whoever had this idea of importing this horrible fish had a very good intention, only, he didn't address the root cause of the problem. The solution in cleaning Pasig River would also be the solution of flood problems.

This is a very expensive activity seeing that Laguna de Bai is big. I think whoever had this idea of importing this horrible fish had a very good intention, only, he didn't address the root cause of the problem. The solution in cleaning Pasig River would also be the solution of flood problems.

I have to agree with your assessment. That is the truth.

Dapat pala i-drain din ang laguna de bay. I-dredge ng todo para lumalim uli, patayin ang mga peste at ibalik uli ang tubig... Parang swimming pool ba :lol:

If it can only be done. That will also solve the pollution problem in the Pasig River and Laguna De Bay.

the laguna de bay depth is approaching 14m..a level llda manda says has not been seen since early 1900's..in recent decades the average depth has been closer to 5m.

when rizal first voyaged to europe in the early 1880's, he went via a small ship from pilli laguna to somewhere near the mouth of the pasig and changed to a smaller boat to traverse the pasig to join the liner at Manila Bay.

these rains have given us a chance to reinvent the laguna de bay and pasig..political will to remove the fishpens and to keep the squatters from returning are now the actions required.

its ours to screw up again.

Napanood ko sa news ng ABS-CBN ang kapal ng mga squatters sa mga ilog, karamihan umaabot pa ng third floor ang mga shanties!

Dapat panghimasukan na ng national government ito at pwersahang hugutin ang mga squatters sa mga gilid ng ilog, tutal may valid reason sila ngayon para gawin ito at mukhang gusto na rin ng mga tao na maialis sila doon.

Napanood ko sa news ng ABS-CBN ang kapal ng mga squatters sa mga ilog, karamihan umaabot pa ng third floor ang mga shanties!

Dapat panghimasukan na ng national government ito at pwersahang hugutin ang mga squatters sa mga gilid ng ilog, tutal may valid reason sila ngayon para gawin ito at mukhang gusto na rin ng mga tao na maialis sila doon.

Dapat talaga.......they were tolerated by the local and national officials. According to an elderly (dating official) na nakausap ko, nagsimula lang daw yan sila in '80s, so panahon pa ni Marcos, dumami noong panahon ni Cory, pinabayaan ni Ramos and Erap, hanggang ngayon kay GMA except the PNR rails squatters who were relocated by this administration.

^^

Nagsimulang mamulaklak ang mga squatters dahil sa mga city mayors na ginamit silang plantation ng mga kakailanganing boto. Mas dapat sisihin ang mga mayors dahil sa umpisa pa lang, dapat naging mahigpit na sila sa pagpapaalis sa mga squatters na tumitira lalo na sa mga gilid ng ilog at ilalim ng mga tulay.

O ngayon, umpisahan na ang tanggalan at relocation. Iyong mga haharang sa demolition, ikulong o kaya pagmultahin at pagbayarin ng napakataas na real estate taxes kung magpumilit na tumira sa mga lupang di naman kanila.

Yes it is.

Any sensible reason why BF had to import the janitor fish?

Pasig river rehabilitation

Fel V. maragay
Manila Standard
October 5, 2009

About two weeks ago, newspapers carried the story and photo of an American battle tank that had been accidentally found and dug up at the bottom of the Pasig River near the breakwater in the Baseco compound Tondo. The 65-year-old Sherman M4-Al tank, widely used by the United States Army during World War II, was discovered by the personnel of the Kwan Sing Construction while they were dredging that portion of the river.

The discovery of the rusty battle tank was an interesting human interest story. But what provoked my curiosity more was the report that Kwan Sing Construction was contracted by the Pasig River Rehabilitation Commission, chaired by Environment and Natural Resources Secretary Lito Atienza Jr. to dredge the heavily-silted main waterway in Metro Manila. Dredging of the Pasig River was being undertaken 24 hours a day, seven days a week, Atienza was quoted as saying.

Environment-conscious citizens could only wish that Atienza was not exaggerating when he announced that there was a round-the-clock dredging of the Pasig River now going on. Reminding them of the importance of the excavation and cleanup of the river was last week’s cataclysmic flood, spawned by Ondoy, which they thought was the apocalyptic deluge to manifest the wrath of Mother Nature for the wanton destruction of the environment.

The revival and beautification of the heavily-polluted Pasig River, declared by scientists to be biologically dead more than two decades ago, is an endeavor that has been the obsession of every administration dating back to the pre-martial law era. Billions of pesos in public funds and private donations have been spent to fulfill that purpose. It would be untruthful and unfair to say that no tangible achievements have been made. But it seems the mighty river continues to deteriorate. This daunting problem seems to defy solution.

Before the mass urbanization of Manila, the 25-kilometer Pasig River, which connects Laguna Lake to Manila Bay, served as an important transport route and center of commerce. It was a major source of water and means of livelihood for the many communities along the banks. It was also a rich fishing ground and the quality of fish caught there was no different from that of fish coming from the sea.

Wealthy families built their homes on spacious grounds along the river, charmed by the breathtaking sight of the greenish but clean water teeming with marine creatures and the passenger steam boats and fishermen’s bancas. A unique and enviable privilege that riverbank residents enjoyed was they could swim and take a bath at the cool and refreshing waters anytime they wanted to.

Since the post-War period, the areas along Pasig River started losing their attraction as a place of abode because of the pollution caused by rapid population growth and the mushrooming of factories and other commercial establishments. This triggered the exodus of families to other places like the subdivisions that were sprouting in the suburbs. But informal settlers or squatters came in increasing number.

The pollution of the river became evident when it was observed that fish migration from Laguna Lake diminished. People stopped bathing and doing their laundry on the river shores and the number of ferry boats declined.

By the 1970s, the river started to emit offensive smell and its waters turned murky. It became a victim of urban pollution, its tributaries and esteros becoming sewerage for the domestic and industrial wastes by factories and dwellers, especially in the slum communities that sprouted on the riverbanks. An estimated five million people discharge their wastewater into the river every day, ecologist and sanitation experts say.

But our story of the Pasig River will not be complete without the improvements made by the government agencies and non-government organizations involved in resuscitating this scenic and legendary river. Worthy of mention are the Pasig riverbank easements, three to 10 meters wide which have been declared environmental protection areas and transformed into public parks and promenades. Some 24.6 kilometers of linear parks have been completed, according to the PRRC, which is implementing this project. The declaration of the riverbank easements as environmental protection areas reduces pollution load and is considered a crucial first step in reviving the river, says Paul van Klaveren, a water supply and sanitation specialist of the Asian Development Bank which has extended a $176-million financial assistance package for the ambitious river revival program.

With the inducement of the government, a private firm has put up the Pasig River Ferry Service as an alternative mode of transportation to decongest vehicular traffic in the metropolis. Inaugurated in February 2007, the ferry service has a total of 14 fully operational stations where the fast-sailing ferry boats pick up passengers at regular intervals. Commuters who patronize the ferry service have observed that the riverbanks are no longer an eyesore and the water is not as black as it used to be. And although the water still stinks, it ceases to repel one’s nose once he is inside the airconditioned ferry.

The dredging of the Pasig River, if done continuously and sustained with sufficient funding, can very well spell the difference in the long and difficult effort to rehabilitate the waterway. It will prevent the river from overflowing every time the premier region is struck by typhoon. If this is successfully done, the areas along the river, its tributaries, esteros and canals, will be spared of the perennial flooding, thereby protecting residents from a grave threat to their lives and properties.

Architect Deogracias Tablan Jr., PRRC executive director, clarified that the Pasig River Dredging Project is a purely government venture which has been given top priority by the commission and the Department of Environment and Natural Resources. He said that the dredging of the river was being done “without letup.” Tablan adds that they “hope to revive the waterway as early as possible.”

“Through an aggressive public information campaign, we hope to reverse the people’s negative views about the Pasig River. Indeed, there is a bright hope that we can revive the river because there is wide public support for this undertaking,” Tablan said.

Created in l999, the PRRC was tasked to restore the Pasig River to Class C level—that which can sustain life— by the year 2014. From its inception, the commission was faced with the daunting task of relocating tens of thousands of squatter households from the riverbank to resettlement sites where they can have the chance to own their own housing units, engage in livelihood enterprises and have access to development support from the government.

The river revival drive got a big shot in the arm when the “Kapit Bisig sa Ilog Pasig” (Arm-in-Arm for Pasig River) program was launched jointly by the government and the ABS-CBN in February 2009.

The goal of the partnership is to turn Pasig into a Clean River Zone in seven years. The partnership aims to accomplish this by ensuring zero toxic input into the river through solid waste management, household or community septic tanks desludging and septage treatment.

Taking part in the program launch were eight local government units, the Manila Water Co., the Maynilad Water Services Inc., Metro Manila Development Authority and ABS-CBN. What was needed, stressed Gina Lopez, managing director of ABS-CBS Foundation, was a “genuine display of bayanihan [cooperative spirit] from public servants and the private sector. “No matter how much money you spend to clean the river, the river is still going to be dirty. We have to change the way we look at the river.”:cheers::)

f_maragay@yahoo.com

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Nagsimulang mamulaklak ang mga squatters dahil sa mga city mayors na ginamit silang plantation ng mga kakailanganing boto...

According to the news, Bayani Fernando is reluctant and is not for relocating thousands of families living near the river to resettlement areas (as selected by the government's housing czar, De Castro) in Bulacan, Rizal (San Mateo) and Laguna (Calauan), etc. Marides of course is her wife who heads Marikina. Sayang din ang mga boto... Sana 'di 'to totoo.

Any sensible reason why BF had to import the janitor fish?

The janitor fish was supposed to clean up the river of water lilies.

"According to the news, Bayani Fernando is reluctant and is not for relocating thousands of families living near the river to resettlement areas (as selected by the government's housing czar, De Castro) in Bulacan, Rizal (San Mateo) and Laguna (Calauan), etc."

I think Bayani Fernando settled all the squatters in Marikina in an area called Tumana which is also in Marikina. Maybe his thinking is if you can find a spot in your area then you don't need to go far.

^^ Or let them stay because they are Fernando's voters.

Pasig river rehabilitation

Fel V. maragay
Manila Standard
October 5, 2009

About two weeks ago, newspapers carried the story and photo of an American battle tank that had been accidentally found and dug up at the bottom of the Pasig River near the breakwater in the Baseco compound Tondo. The 65-year-old Sherman M4-Al tank, widely used by the United States Army during World War II, was discovered by the personnel of the Kwan Sing Construction while they were dredging that portion of the river.


^^Is this for real?!?

I don't think they should remove that tank from the river. They should keep it there for nostalgic purposes.

How to ease swelling of lake stirs big debate
Business Mirror
Written by Jonathan Mayuga & Butch Fernandez
http://www.businessmirror.com.ph/home/top-news/16912-how-to-ease-swelling-of-lake-stirs-big-debate.html

ENVIRONMENT Secretary Lito Atienza on Monday urged members of the Senate Oversight Committee on Climate Change to review the law that created the Laguna Lake Development Authority (LLDA), the agency tasked to lead, promote and accelerate sustainable development in the Laguna de Bay region.

He said the environmental degradation of the lake was partly responsible for the massive flooding in Metro Manila during the onslaught of Typhoon Ondoy two weekends ago.

Atienza also asked lawmakers to revisit the LLDA’s mandate, as well as its structure, “either to strengthen or abolish” the agency.

He told the public hearing conducted by the Senate oversight committee, headed by Sen. Loren Legarda, that because of its poor state, the lake failed to absorb the floodwaters from areas of Metro Manila during the typhoon.

He said the proliferation of illegal structures on Laguna de Bay because of the unchecked operation of fish cages and fish pens caused the lake to become heavily silted, thereby preventing the natural flow of water.

The environment chief’s revelation that the LLDA has no budget allocation surprised lawmakers.

Meanwhile, Legarda made LLDA officials “answerable” for failing to check the proliferation of illegal fish pens and other structures clogging the free flow of floodwaters that engulfed lakeshore residential communities in the recent flooding.

“It is about time something is done about the LLDA; either give it ample powers so it could effectively address the problems in the lake once and for all, or abolish it,” Atienza suggested in the public hearing, called to assess the situation and craft measures to prevent another catastrophe similar to that wrought by Ondoy.

Legarda assured Atienza she would summon LLDA officials at the next hearing to determine what to do with the environment-related problems at the Laguna Lake.

The senator told reporters, “The LLDA is answerable for the problems there. Why are they tolerating these illegal fish pens? That is a problem that has been there for decades.”

She said the LLDA, along with the erring local government units, could also be held liable for allowing other illegal encroachments constricting the lake, resulting in record-high floodwater levels that inundated nearby Metro Manila towns and cities.

Stepping into the breach, President Arroyo directed LLDA chairman Edgardo Manda and Secretary Atienza to “work together to resolve all the issues facing them,” Malacañang Deputy Spokesman Anthony Golez told Palace reporters.

Legarda agreed that an agency like the LLDA should not depend on fees or fines imposed on violators for it to operate and do its job of promoting the lake’s development.

“I agree with Secretary Atienza that the LLDA should be strengthened. It is impossible for LLDA to operate without a budget,” she said.

The Pasig River, a major tributary that is supposed to lead floodwater to Laguna de Bay and Manila Bay, is now being rehabilitated.

Rehabilitating Laguna de Bay has also started with the dismantling of the illegal fish cages and fish pens in the lake. However, lack of funds and noncooperation from some local governments stalled the dismantling operation.

Pasig River rehab goes in full swing
October 5, 2009, 6:24pm

Metro Manila residents can look forward to an early rehabilitation of the Pasig River as the dredging project continues 24 hours a day and seven days a week, Environment Secretary Jose L. Atienza, Jr. said.

Atienza, chairman of the Pasig River Rehabilitation Commission (PRRC), issued the statement after the Philippine Coast Guard reported on Wednesday that a private contractor of the river rehabilitation project dug up a 65-year-old battle tank off the South Harbor.

Commander Armand Balilo, Coast Guard spokesperson, said personnel of Kwan Sing Construction Corp. accidentally recovered the Sherman M4-A1 tank while dredging near the breakwater in Baseco Compound, Tondo early Saturday.

According to Balilo, the tank was commonly used by the US military during World War II. When they checked, they found several bullets for Garand rifles inside the tank.

“This only means that dredging the Pasig River to regain its pristine condition is being done without letup. With the help of Baggwerwerken Decloedt N.V. Philippines, we assure everyone that we could revive the waterway as early as possible,” said architect Deogracias Tablan Jr., PRRC executive director.

Earlier, the dredgers and sea marshals also found old cannon shells, which were turned over to the PCG Special Operations Group in Parola, Tondo, Manila.

In terms of modern technology and expertise, he said, they have no doubt that the goal of rehabilitating the Pasig River will be attained soon.

Tablan clarified that the Pasig River dredging project is not a Kapit Bisig para sa Ilog Pasig but a priority project of the national government under the DENR thru the PRRC, correcting earlier reports aired in a radio station.

The PRRC executive director also said that through an aggressive information campaign, the people’s negative views on the Pasig River could be reversed “because there is still hope to revive it and bacause support for the river’s preservation has started pouring in.”
http://www.mb.com.ph/node/223338/pa

^^Is this for real?!?

I don't think they should remove that tank from the river. They should keep it there for nostalgic purposes.

It is part of the dredging process. It is not to sit there on the river bed in the first place. Our rivers became shallow and polluted because of almost anything you can name. What should be in rivers are fish and other river fauna, some flora, rocks and stones, sand and water.

^^I agree remove every foreign object from the river, but just leave the tank (as long as its not causing harm to the environment). It could become a tourist attraction and a reminder of Manila's wartime history. Anyways its too late now...Kwan Sing Construction Corp. has already removed it from the riverbed.

^^I agree remove every foreign object from the river, but just leave the tank (as long as its not causing harm to the environment). It could become a tourist attraction and a reminder of Manila's wartime history. Anyways its too late now...Kwan Sing Construction Corp. has already removed it from the riverbed.

They may display it in other places but not perhaps near Pasig...

I don't know why some people here are suggesting we leave the tank in the river, because if it were IN the river, NO ONE WOULD BE ABLE TO SEE IT... It's better off in a museum or they can make a small display of it next to the river for viewing purposes.

I don't know why some people here are suggesting we leave the tank in the river, because if it were IN the river, NO ONE WOULD BE ABLE TO SEE IT... It's better off in a museum or they can make a small display of it next to the river for viewing purposes.

Thats correct:cheers:

It is part of the dredging process. It is not to sit there on the river bed in the first place. Our rivers became shallow and polluted because of almost anything you can name. What should be in rivers are fish and other river fauna, some flora, rocks and stones, sand and water.

^^I agree remove every foreign object from the river, but just leave the tank (as long as its not causing harm to the environment). It could become a tourist attraction and a reminder of Manila's wartime history. Anyways its too late now...Kwan Sing Construction Corp. has already removed it from the riverbed.

Tama po kayo!

I don't know why some people here are suggesting we leave the tank in the river, because if it were IN the river, NO ONE WOULD BE ABLE TO SEE IT... It's better off in a museum or they can make a small display of it next to the river for viewing purposes.

Yeah! :D Hopefully in the future someone could also locate the Magallanes monument in the Pasig River. Its made of gold and marble too. It was "pushed" it said to the river when cleaning started after WWII.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3616/3535322711_5983540bb6_b.jpg

I don't know why some people here are suggesting we leave the tank in the river, because if it were IN the river, NO ONE WOULD BE ABLE TO SEE IT... It's better off in a museum or they can make a small display of it next to the river for viewing purposes.

^^I guess I forgot to mention how you could see it. :crazy: They could make it a scuba diving attraction or create an underground observation deck next to the tank under the river's surface. Part of it being an attraction is to have left it exactly where it sank into the river more than half a century ago (Like leaving the Titanic where it sank in the Atlantic Ocean). Wouldn't that have been nice.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a89/overtureph/MONUMENTMANILAPHILIPPINESc1940PHOTO.jpgYeah! :D Hopefully in the future someone could also locate the Magallanes monument in the Pasig River. Its made of gold and marble too. It was "pushed" it said to the river when cleaning started after WWII.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3616/3535322711_5983540bb6_b.jpg

Yeah! :D Hopefully in the future someone could also locate the Magallanes monument in the Pasig River. Its made of gold and marble too. It was "pushed" it said to the river when cleaning started after WWII.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3616/3535322711_5983540bb6_b.jpg

^^ wow.. very nice bit of history... ang ganda ng monument na yan.. sayang wala na..

^^I guess I forgot to mention how you could see it. :crazy: They could make it a scuba diving attraction or create an underground observation deck next to the tank under the river's surface. Part of it being an attraction is to have left it exactly where it sank into the river more than half a century ago (Like leaving the Titanic where it sank in the Atlantic Ocean). Wouldn't that have been nice.

^^ yet would anyone want to dive into a murky dead manila bay or pasig river? and would an investor risk such an underground observation deck? highly unlikely... that tank is not so really important imho.. better that it is inside a museum..

Besides, that tank could cause an accident if a bigger boat passes through the area where the tank was.

Siguro maraming ganyang relics sa Leyte Gulf, mga battleships pa talaga ng mga amerikano at hapon.

^^I guess I forgot to mention how you could see it. :crazy: They could make it a scuba diving attraction or create an underground observation deck next to the tank under the river's surface. Part of it being an attraction is to have left it exactly where it sank into the river more than half a century ago (Like leaving the Titanic where it sank in the Atlantic Ocean). Wouldn't that have been nice.

observation deck submerge sa pasig river... ala ka rin makikita... hehehe.. kahit pa maging 360 degrees na obsevation tube yab.. ala kang makikita.. suntok sa buwan yan... ilagay na lang sa loob ng manila ocean park... :)

Actually, the Japanese are trying to raise the sank sister giant WWII battleship Yamato and Musashi. It's going to be expensive though.

observation deck submerge sa pasig river... ala ka rin makikita... hehehe.. kahit pa maging 360 degrees na obsevation tube yab.. ala kang makikita.. suntok sa buwan yan... ilagay na lang sa loob ng manila ocean park... :)

^^oo nga no?...sa panaginip ko na lang yun..crystal clear yung ilog dyan..:|

gawin na lang katulad sa Singapore (Clarke Quay) yung mga tabi ng pasig pero dapat i-dredge muna...

This group should have welcome the move that will finally take these poor people out of that situation.
http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=512443&publicationSubCategoryId=65

Urban poor group opposes Manila Bay cleanup


MANILA, Philippines - A group claiming to represent the urban poor asked the Supreme Court (SC) yesterday to consider the welfare of 70,000 urban poor families whose shanties along Manila Bay or its connecting waterways are in danger of being demolished as part of the cleanup of Manila Bay.

The Urban Poor Associates (UPA), through Ritche Esponilla, said the SC should convene the advisory committee created eight months ago for the project and determine if the rights of the urban poor have been violated.

He said the 70,000 urban poor families have not been properly relocated, and there are reports that unannounced and illegal demolitions were carried out earlier this year along waterways and canals connected to the bay.

Esponilla said while the cleanup is valuable and must be duly supported by all sectors, it must not come at the expense of displacing thousands of urban poor families already marginalized by society.

“Let us be clear about two things here. One, the poor are not the major cause of the floodings. Second, the urban poor communities are not against any move to clean up Manila Bay in order to restore its former splendor,” he said.

The UPA said floods could be caused by urban planning defects and environmental degradation as a result of illegal logging and quarrying activities in the mountains around Metro Manila. The group also said the urban poor dwellers along canals, waterways and other so-called danger areas are there not as a “matter of choice” but because they need to survive.

“As such, we believe in the effort to clean up Manila Bay, a comprehensive and decent relocation program and immediate economic relief must come with the initiative,” Esponilla said. – Edu Punay

This group should have welcome the move that will finally take these poor people out of that situation.
http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=512443&publicationSubCategoryId=65

Urban poor group opposes Manila Bay cleanup


MANILA, Philippines - “Let us be clear about two things here. One, the poor are not the major cause of the floodings. Second, the urban poor communities are not against any move to clean up Manila Bay in order to restore its former splendor,” he said.

The UPA said floods could be caused by urban planning defects and environmental degradation as a result of illegal logging and quarrying activities in the mountains around Metro Manila. The group also said the urban poor dwellers along canals, waterways and other so-called danger areas are there not as a “matter of choice” but because they need to survive.

“As such, we believe in the effort to clean up Manila Bay, a comprehensive and decent relocation program and immediate economic relief must come with the initiative,” Esponilla said. – Edu Punay

They should be relocated and should not be allowed anymore to build houses near waterways in the metro manila.

magandang gawin nila, pagkaalis na pagkaalis ng mga tao jan, bigla nilang gawan ng mga parks or projects, ang nagyayari kasi satin, ang mga tao basta nalang mag iisquatt makakita lng ng open space, eh kung walang open space sa paligid ng ilog, edi wala silang matatayuan ng bahay nila.

Relocation-housing and Mass Housing Model should be HIGH-RISE similar to a bliss type (at least 5 stories) building to save on land and space. It will also make the drainage system well planned and routed.
Build-your-own-house is not an option for "mass housing" because of lack of planning and coordination among the home builders.
High-rise looks more expensive but it's for the common good- always think of the common good - not the cost. Look how effective the mass housing in Singapore and HK.

"Middle class" squatters should be encouraged to buy low cost houses in the provinces near urban centers like CALABARZON and Metro Cebu.

Poor squatters can be house in low rise tenement buildings/ complex.

Its time for the government to rid the banks of Pasig River and all waterways in urban areas of illegal and legal settlers

"Middle class" squatters should be encouraged to buy low cost houses in the provinces near urban centers like CALABARZON and Metro Cebu.

Poor squatters can be house in low rise tenement buildings/ complex.

Its time for the government to rid the banks of Pasig River and all waterways in urban areas of illegal and legal settlers

Hwag lng Cebu pls....... over populated na rin kami. we're also having a problem containing local migration from nearby provinces. what we need is a comprehensive long term plan on declogging urban centers. :)

Hwag lng Cebu pls....... over populated na rin kami. we're also having a problem containing local migration from nearby provinces. what we need is a comprehensive long term plan on declogging urban centers. :)

OOpss sorry...perhaps at least in nearby provinces lang...

Hwag lng Cebu pls....... over populated na rin kami. we're also having a problem containing local migration from nearby provinces. what we need is a comprehensive long term plan on declogging urban centers. :)

Large population can be advantageous. It translates to bigger market, bigger and continuous demand, vibrant and bigger economy, etc. Imagine if you have 10M people buying a cellphone each, eating 3 times a day, etc. Food stalls and restaurants would flourish, the same with businesses that cater to human needs. Who would invest in a place where there is low demand? You don't have to be a genius to know why retail tycoons build malls in populous areas. There is no over population as long as a proper and effective urban planning is being implemented. This is the reason why there are developed countries that attract immigrants.

^^ This idea that economic growth is synanymous to large population is based on the assumption that our resources is limitless. Saan mo miminahin ang mga metal na panggawa ng kanilang cellphones. Saan mo itatanim ang mga pagkain na ipoprovide sa mga fastfoods. Saan mo patitirahin ang mga tao na lalo pang dumadami. Ovepopulation would translate to a bigger market pero once its resources and space ay hindi na makapagsustain nito, this will lead to the degradation of the city. So dapat sustainable lang ang population. Not just growth and growth for the sake of growth.

I said large population can be advatageous. I didn't say it is ideal. Also, I added that as long as a proper and effective urban planning is being implemented there is no over population.

There are no plantations nor mining sites in Manila, but it survives. Yet, it is the most populous area in this country. So do Hongkong and Singapore. It is a matter of how a leader steers the boat wisely.

In other countries, research and development, plans and studies are being done to address the problem on human habitation. Imaginative and creative projects are drawn such as Sky City in Japan, etc. Most of Manila and Cebu are still flat. It can go higher to accommodate people.

Degradation comes when people violate the law of nature. Even if we have 50 million people living in Manila, our rivers can be as clean as during the olden times if there is discipline. There is always a solution for every problem that we come accross. Again, it depends on how ably our leaders steer the boat.

"This idea that economic growth is synonymous to large population is based on the assumption that our resources is limitless. Saan mo miminahin ang mga metal na panggawa ng kanilang cellphones. Saan mo itatanim ang mga pagkain na ipoprovide sa mga fastfoods. Saan mo patitirahin ang mga tao na lalo pang dumadami."

Sounded like Cambodia during the Khmer Rouge regime. Everthing are going to be produced by the people. No trade with other countries. This is insipid. No country or place can produce everything. That's why there is this Theory of Comparative Advantage. :ohno:

There are no plantations nor mining sites in Manila, but it survives. Yet, it is the most populous area in this country. So does Hongkong and Singapore..

^^ i think he just used mining to prove a point that resources are limited.. not because a city with a mining site or plantation will flourish more than the ones that do not... just saying...

but i agree with you on Discipline...

Question: Why is it that we all know what we need to do yet we still find it hard to follow? In this case, discipline is what we need yet we all fail to be disciplined. O' well, no use on ranting...

^^ i think he just used mining to prove a point that resources are limited.. not because a city with a mining site or plantation will flourish more than the ones that do not... just saying...

but i agree with you on Discipline...

Question: Why is it that we all know what we need to do yet we still find it hard to follow? In this case, discipline is what we need yet we all fail to be disciplined. O' well, no use on ranting...

amen ako dyan....mga pasaway....kahit nakawala na sa kahirapan nagkaroon na ng kotse....nagtatapon pa rin ng basura sa labas ng kotse...hirap iwan ang ugaling squatter...

"nagtatapon pa rin ng basura sa labas ng kotse...hirap iwan ang ugaling squatter..."

Yes, this is based on scientific research and observation. Mga squatter lamang ang nagtatapon, ang mga mayayaman ay hindi. May mga cruise liner, dahil sa kahirapan ay nagtatapon na lamang ng basura sa dagat. :lol:

Question: Why is it that we all know what we need to do yet we still find it hard to follow? In this case, discipline is what we need yet we all fail to be disciplined. O' well, no use on ranting...

It is because the democracy that we have now is wherein people can do almost everything without direct consequence. Parang nagwawala na. Singapore is a democratic country, though, during the time of Lee Kuan Yew and even today, strict laws and rules are being implemented.

I think if we are going to be stricter in our laws particularly pertaining to this problem on garbage, the people would think we are on a military rule. You see what I mean? Our leaders tend to be lenient to gain people's approval.

Pasig River


Because the government did not build the Paranaque spillway, excess water from Laguna de Bay has only one outlet to Manila Bay: Pasig River. But because Pasig River is also heavily silted opening the Napindan gates to allow water to flow to the Pasig River will only cause flooding in Manila including Malacanang. So they decided to flood Marikina, Pasig, Cainta, Pateros and Taguig instead.

The good news is, Gina Lopez has taken on the impossible job of cleaning up the Pasig River… a task at least two first ladies gave up on. Gina has scored initial success in the still long task ahead when she resettled squatters from Estero de Paco to a site in Calauan, Laguna.

To date, 300 families have been relocated to Calauan, Laguna (average of 40 families per week). They intend to complete relocation of 1000 families by end of December 2009. For 2010, the next clean up target is the tributary river of San Juan with 4,000 families. The relocation site is officially called “BayaniJuan in Calauan, Laguna.” Not only is the mission Gina accepted exhausting work, it is also expensive.

If she is to depend on government resources alone, the work will not be done. Even foreign aid supplementing government resources would not be enough. Like in the reforesting of the La Mesa Dam watershed, Gina needs strong private sector support. Thus Gina thought of a fund raising drive in the form of a fun run.

On Nov. 8, Kapit Bisig para sa Ilog Pasig (KBPIP) project is sponsoring this major run “A Run for the River” to raise funds to clean the Pasig River and its esteros of garbage and resettle informal settlers. She is targeting 20,000 participants.

The marathon will allow runners to get close to the river via a nontraditional route that will cross nine of the 13 bridges of Pasig River; portions of the race will be run alongside the river itself. Gina’s appeal to concerned citizens: “If you care strong enough to make the Pasig River clean, this is your chance to make a statement and run for the River.”

Pinoy Ultra Runners will conduct free running clinics for first-time runners. Registration forms are available online for marathon and relay or register at the following outlets: KBPIP office at 3/F ELJ Building, Mother Ignacia QC, ABS-CBN Foundation Inc. Head office, IZOD boutiques, Vanheusen Boutiques, Gold’s Gym, ROX Running Store, Second Wind, Race Inc. For more info, call 415-2272 loc. 3797 or email ilogpasig@abs-cbn.com

from Blame national greed
DEMAND AND SUPPLY
By Boo Chanco
(The Philippine Star)
Updated October 14, 2009 12:00 AM

Pasig River


Because the government did not build the Paranaque spillway, excess water from Laguna de Bay has only one outlet to Manila Bay: Pasig River. But because Pasig River is also heavily silted opening the Napindan gates to allow water to flow to the Pasig River will only cause flooding in Manila including Malacanang. So they decided to flood Marikina, Pasig, Cainta, Pateros and Taguig instead.

The good news is, Gina Lopez has taken on the impossible job of cleaning up the Pasig River… a task at least two first ladies gave up on. Gina has scored initial success in the still long task ahead when she resettled squatters from Estero de Paco to a site in Calauan, Laguna.

To date, 300 families have been relocated to Calauan, Laguna (average of 40 families per week). They intend to complete relocation of 1000 families by end of December 2009. For 2010, the next clean up target is the tributary river of San Juan with 4,000 families. The relocation site is officially called “BayaniJuan in Calauan, Laguna.” Not only is the mission Gina accepted exhausting work, it is also expensive.

If she is to depend on government resources alone, the work will not be done. Even foreign aid supplementing government resources would not be enough. Like in the reforesting of the La Mesa Dam watershed, Gina needs strong private sector support. Thus Gina thought of a fund raising drive in the form of a fun run.

On Nov. 8, Kapit Bisig para sa Ilog Pasig (KBPIP) project is sponsoring this major run “A Run for the River” to raise funds to clean the Pasig River and its esteros of garbage and resettle informal settlers. She is targeting 20,000 participants.

The marathon will allow runners to get close to the river via a nontraditional route that will cross nine of the 13 bridges of Pasig River; portions of the race will be run alongside the river itself. Gina’s appeal to concerned citizens: “If you care strong enough to make the Pasig River clean, this is your chance to make a statement and run for the River.”

Pinoy Ultra Runners will conduct free running clinics for first-time runners. Registration forms are available online for marathon and relay or register at the following outlets: KBPIP office at 3/F ELJ Building, Mother Ignacia QC, ABS-CBN Foundation Inc. Head office, IZOD boutiques, Vanheusen Boutiques, Gold’s Gym, ROX Running Store, Second Wind, Race Inc. For more info, call 415-2272 loc. 3797 or email ilogpasig@abs-cbn.com

from Blame national greed
DEMAND AND SUPPLY
By Boo Chanco
(The Philippine Star)
Updated October 14, 2009 12:00 AM

oi malaking himala ang column ni boo chanco hindi binabatikos si ate glue... :lol:..kala ko pati baha isisisi niya kay ate glue....:lol:

oi malaking himala ang column ni boo chanco hindi binabatikos si ate glue... :lol:..kala ko pati baha isisisi niya kay ate glue....:lol:

Just edited his column. Parang tinira nya pa rin si Ate Glue.:lol:

it is sad....people doing their jobs and doing it right....is being lambasted by people whose only contribution to our way of life is their saliva...:bash:

tama ang sabi ng matatanda....

"ang mga taong tamad kumilos ay ang mga taong mahilig bumatikos"

SSCers will participate in the Run for Pasig on November 8. Join us! PM me. :)

Tuesday, 13 October 2009
PGMA orders review of Palafox master plan

Dagupan City (PND)-- President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo ordered today her Cabinet to look into a 1977 study on flooding in Metro Manila by urban planner Architect Jun Palafox and find out if there’s something in it the government can adapt.
“Let’s look at it again. It was a masterplan for NCR during the Marcos administration but it was never implemented. Let’s see what we can do about it,” the President said during the National Disaster Coordinating Council (NDCC)-Cabinet meeting here this morning.
Thirty-two years ago, Palafox warned that relaxing control of urban development would have adverse consequences. The devastation wrought by typhoon “Ondoy” last Sept.26 proved him right.
In that study, Palafox singles out Marikina Valley as unsuitable for development. Indeed, the city of Marikina was among those that sustained the most damage.
The Palafox report submitted in July 1977 to then Public Works and Highways Minister Alfredo Juinio states that “development should be restricted by the application of controls in three major areas---the Marikina Valley, the western shores of Laguna de Bay, and the Manila Bay coastal areas to the north of Manila.”
The World Bank-funded land-use plan was finalized by Hong Kong-based consulting firm, Freeman Fox and Associates.
The report recommends that the government monitor the Marikina River bank and make sure water does not reach 90 meters in height. It also provides no structure should have been allowed within nine meters from the river bank.
The three-volume report also notes that “urban development is spreading into [these] areas which are, in their present state, unsuitable for development—either because they are low-lying and liable to flooding, or because development is without adequate facilities for the treatment and disposal of sewage [the norm in Manila] and so will continue to contribute to the severe pollution of areas, such as Laguna de Bay.”
The study adds: “The unsuitable areas for development, where pressures are nevertheless considerable, are primarily the flat coastal areas to the north where extensive areas are liable to flooding and where increased pressures for reclamation are likely to further exacerbate this problem.”

“Marikina Valley to the east, where the land is liable to flooding and where development with inadequate provision for the treatment and disposal of sewage is contributing to the severe pollution of Laguna de Bay and where flooding is a problem in the adjacent areas.
“The western shores of Laguna de Bay, where development without adequate facilities for the treatment and disposal of sewage is contributing to the severe pollution of Laguna de Bay and where flooding, is a problem in the adjacent areas.”
“In order to avoid development contributing to longer-term flooding and water pollution, it is necessary that the short-term development is restricted in these areas. Only when remedial measures to deal with the problems have been implemented, should the development of these areas proceed on a significant scale,” the report says.

After ages of wanting to be heard, Palafox is now finally heard by our stupid goverment.

I don't want to sound sadistic but, i hope there are more natural disasters hit metro manila. Dito lang kasi tayo nagigising sa katotohanan na kailangan na natin ayusin ang kamaynilaan..

sana wag lang makalimutan ang "metro manila makeover program" lalo nat palapit na ulet ang laban ni pacquiao.

GMA wants Pasig River dredged by 2010
By Katherine Adraneda (The Philippine Star) Updated October 16, 2009 12:00 AM

MANILA, Philippines - President Arroyo has ordered the Pasig River dredging project to be completed by December 2010 in order to lessen, if not resolve, the flooding in Metro Manila and other areas surrounding Laguna Lake, Department of Environment and Natural Resources (DENR) Secretary Lito Atienza said yesterday.

As of Oct. 15, the dredging project was almost 30 percent complete with at least 468, 000 cubic meters of sediment materials already scraped from the riverbed. The project is supposed to run for six more years.

“It’s a good thing that this project started months before the onslaught of tropical storm Ondoy because given the head start we were able to lessen the calamity. If this project did not start months before, the disaster we experienced because of the typhoon could have been worse,” Atienza said.

During her visit yesterday afternoon at the project site, near the mouth of Pasig River in Baseco, the Chief Executive lauded what the project development has attained so far, but still hoped that the dredging operation would be stepped up.

Atienza, who also chairs the Pasig River Rehabilitation Commission (PRRC), which oversees efforts to revive the Pasig River, said the swift flow of water in the river would help lower the water level in Laguna Lake.

“Pasig River provides the natural drainage line for the water from the Laguna Lake towards the Manila Bay. Though this project will not solve the problem of flooding, this will nevertheless greatly help lessen incidents of flooding as well as the destruction especially whenever there is another abnormal volume of rainfall, which is being attributed to climate change,” he said.

Earlier, the PRRC announced that its “comprehensive” dredging of the Pasig River is “definitely making headway.” The Belgian government-sponsored venture formally started last April.

The Pasig River dredging project requires the removal of an estimated 2.83 million cubic meters of debris or sediment from the 27-kilometer Pasig River through the use of five Eco-Grab machines; and its containment to two Underwater Placement Overdepths with Capping (UPOCs) in a “safe site” in Manila Bay.

PRRC deputy executive director Alan Gatpolintan said the undertaking would specifically cover a portion of the Pasig River from an extension into Manila Bay to the Napindan Hydraulic Flood Control Gate.

The dredged materials would be contained using the UPOC technology, a type of confined disposal facility, he also said.

UPOC involves the excavation of the containment cell at the seabed using a tractor suction hopper dredger or mechanical clamshell bucket, Gatpolintan explained. Each UPOC could accommodate 1.4 million cubic meters of contaminated materials.

Atienza said the UPOC technology is “very, very environmentally safe and clean.”

The dredging project aims to improve water quality of the river to reduce health risks, enhance transport potentials, and eliminate or mitigate flooding in the area.

Despite its current polluted state, Gatpolintan said Pasig River can hold as much as 6.5 million cubic meters of water, but the dredging project, once completed, would increase the river’s capacity by as much as 40 percent.

It is because the democracy that we have now is wherein people can do almost everything without direct consequence. Parang nagwawala na. Singapore is a democratic country, though, during the time of Lee Kuan Yew and even today, strict laws and rules are being implemented.

I think if we are going to be stricter in our laws particularly pertaining to this problem on garbage, the people would think we are on a military rule. You see what I mean? Our leaders tend to be lenient to gain people's approval.

We can also look the China in Present as the best one. They are now in a republic government but somehow still practicing being communist. The result, a disciplined community, government policies and rules are well implemented.
They have a very strict laws such as death penalty for graft and corruption.
Im not saying here that we must follow what china does have. But maybe that is what we need to have a disciplined, organized, and well progressed community.

There is nothing good in full democracy as what we presently have.!


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We can also look the China in Present as the best one. They are now in a republic government but somehow still practicing being communist. The result, a disciplined community, government policies and rules are well implemented.
They have a very strict laws such as death penalty for graft and corruption.
Im not saying here that we must follow what china does have. But maybe that is what we need to have a disciplined, organized, and well progressed community.

There is nothing good in full democracy as what we presently have.!
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For your info, China is still a hard core Communist nation.

For your info, China is still a hard core Communist nation.

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why use big words. it is socialist but appears more capitalist in recent years. widely recognized western media would support this view

For your info, China is still a hard core Communist nation.

Still a hard core communist nation..?? how sure are you???? anung basehan mo for that comment?? Have you ever tried or experience to live in China even in a short time?

FOR YOUR INFO ALSO... China has a shameful human rights history by its communism, but that was before.. They are just still practicing a bit of it in a present time but we cannot totally call it communism now, but a DISCIPLINE.. Kaya hindi ganun kagulo, DAHIL MAY DISIPLINA.. may gulo man pero bihira lng kapag hndi na nila makontrol ang sitwasyon.'


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^^ Actually, China still has a shameful human rights record. Just look at its brutal suppression of freedom of speech and religion.

Sunday Life: Why I like cleaning the Pasig River
FROM THE HEART By Gina Lopez (The Philippine Star) Updated October 18, 2009 12:00 AM (http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=515048&publicationSubCategoryId=86)

This is Apacible — part of Estero de Paco — that is our target to clean by December. It’s been like this for over 30 year(left). This is Apacible two months after our operation.

It’s been quite an experience for me — that, even in the face of seemingly overwhelming endeavors like cleaning the Pasig River, my energy level just keeps going up and up, and my confidence that it can be done continues to escalate.

I think it’s because the more I talk to people, the more I realize that the Pasig River touches a button deep inside. I haven’t had anyone refuse to join arms in achieving this task. It’s like a groundswell with resonance — and on a deeper level, my experience of Divine Forces helping — that has made my life with the Pasig River Project very exciting and fulfilling.

These are some of the pictures of the work done so far.

So now we have to dredge and build beautiful easements. We hope the support comes in early enough so that we can have something to show by December.

It is important to note that after typhoon Ondoy, Kapit Bisig has stepped up its relocation efforts — from 30 families every week to more than a hundred. Although Ondoy was a most unfortunate circumstance, it’s actually made our relocation efforts easier. People living along the waterways know now that their lives are in danger — and all sectors fully realize the urgent necessity of relocating these people.:banana:

Private Sector/Government Partnership

I have nothing but accolades for the AFP: the Air Force, the Army and the Navy. Regularly they let us use their trucks for the relocation effort — and in relief efforts for Ondoy victims. They have been there diligently, 24/7. They even set up a dental and medical mission on site. To Gen.

Ibrado, Lt. Col. Hermoso, Lt. Gen. Bangit, Lt. Gen. Rabena, Vice Adm. Golez, Maj. Gen. Fojas, Maj. Gen. Sealana, B. Gen. Pangilinan, Sgt. Cortez: you and your men are heroes!
Similarly, the NHA has been a true partner in development, with the prequalification stage, processing and harmonious co-management of the Calauan Resettlement Site.

The city government has also helped demolish and clean up the debris after the relocation work was complete.

The Department of Agriculture has trained 100 families and given them vegetable seeds for their sustenance.

The DSWD will be building a day care center in the Calauan Site. My staff has nothing but praise for the efficiency and dynamism of Sec. Cabral and her team.

MMDA has also come forward in fixing the easements.

The PRRC has given machines for the material recovery facilities of four areas, including the Paco market and the Caluan Resettlement Site.

The TESDA team has been superlative. They teach our people with commitment. I am very much looking forward to the first graduation. Sec. Gen. Boboy Syjuco is a real partner in development. TESDA is very, very key in the quality of life of these people. I am happy to announce that even before the graduation some of the residents that took the TESDA training already have jobs!
Habitat’s Bert Jugo

Now I must mention Bert Jugo, the president of Habitat. This was the last big undertaking he was involved in. He has unfortunately passed away since beginning the work, but I am comforted by the conviction of others that he will help guide their efforts from “up above.” When Delfin Lee of Globe Asiatique said he would provide the material for the 800 unfinished houses, Bert immediately came to the forefront and supervised the construction. He arranged for insulation from San Miguel. Their team coordinated with Sec. Angie Reyes so that the site can have electrification. I have not the slightest doubt in my mind that he is in a very good place “up there.”

San Miguel’s Housing Check

Ramon Ang does not fit your usual mould of corporate executives. He is lighthearted, and actually quite funny. But when he believes in something he delivers. So I was quite pleased when San Miguel gave the check of P21 million for 300 houses. And he further promised to provide a poultry farm so that the people there will have livelihood projects. It’s great to work with executives who dish out social service in the same way that they do business.

Sun Life Gives To Housing

Forty nine million pesos. Five hundred eighty houses. That’s a very cool number. Spread over five years — from a company that was originally located along the Pasig River. And what excites me more is that their vision is environmental. They want to build environmental houses with solar panels, etc. Very, very cool!

What has caught me by surprise is the 180-degree turnaround by the people we have been relocating. My staff reports to me “Ma’am, they are clean!” Huh? These people that lived on top of open sewers — surrounded by stink and filth — actually have a sense of aesthetics and — joy of joys — even integrity!

This is Bugoy. I was very surprised when this little boy knocked at my door, gave me a wad of bills and said, “Ma’am nahulog sa bulsa mo.” I was shocked. The place he is from is notorious for bag and jewelry snatching.

And he returns money to me? So I gave him some money — and would have wanted to give him a bicycle except the staff said that this is reserved for the end of the academic year — for the students who do well. So we settled on an ABS-CBN jacket, hat and bag — which I gave in front of the whole community.

Oh, the stories of transformation are many — so how can I not be on anything but a high? And oh, the babies!

This is Juanita — the first baby born on site. Since the site is called Bayan Ni Juan, the mother named her Juanita. It’s amusing because when I heard a baby was born in Calauan I was so pleased I went to Rustan’s and bought her a nice baby bathtub, baby clothes, pillows — and as I was giving the items to her beaming mother, my staff tugged at me and said “Ma’am” — pointing to the people looking out from the window — “there are 20 pregnant women here in Calauan.” Oh, dear...

But look at Charice — this is the third baby born on site! She is absolutely angelic! She was born just a few hours before I took this picture. Can you imagine the karma of these babies? They could have been born in stink — but now they are born in a place where there is a commitment to their quality of life. I am proud to note that Charice’s father graduated at the top of the first TESDA class for electricians.

This is one family I am going to take care of.

The Power Of Many

In closing I would like to invite all to take part in the Pasig International Marathon. I am positioning this marathon to be a multi-sectoral statement that we want the Pasig River clean! If thousands upon thousands — from the academe, government, the private sector, families, the religious sector — care enough about the river to run for it — and it is done collectively on that day — I have no doubt that the Pasig will be clean. I need people to make a statement by running. It doesn’t have to be 42 kms. It can be three, five or 10. It can be a cumulative run — meaning, say, 14 of you choose to run in the name of your institute, the 3K route — you will have together run the equivalent of a marathon. I would like to encourage such runs. If you want to run as an individual — that’s great. But if you also run together as a group representing your barangay, school or institution — and put the name of your organization on your race bib — that has punch! When institutions collectively make a statement, that’s powerful stuff. So if you want to run you can register at any Izod or Van Heusen store at the malls or you can e-mail us at ilogpasig@abs-cbn.com. You can also call 416-1911 or 415-2272 loc. 3797.

So by December we will have unclogged Paco. Then it’s on to San Juan and Marikina which sends 90,000 tons of toxic waste to the Pasig River. I need all of Manila to run and provide the energy and momentum so that we can do this in a year. Then it’s on to Tondo, Binondo, Quiapo…

In seven years, if we work together — government, the private sector, the academe, everyone — we will have a cleaner river and a much, much brighter future.

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Visit http://www.abs-cbnfoundation.com. Or e-mail gina_lopez@abs.pinoycentral.com.

PACO

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From The Heart by Gina Lopez
Why I like cleaning the Pasig River

PACO

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From The Heart by Gina Lopez
Why I like cleaning the Pasig River

sarap maging KAPAMILYA! go gina lopez!

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why use big words. it is socialist but appears more capitalist in recent years. widely recognized western media would support this view

Big words?Because western media says so?

I think you should rely on more credible sources.

And definitely Im not inventing things.

Im stating a fact.

I have been to China and studied their government. The ECONOMIC system is "Socialist or sige na nga Mixed system" but the POLITICAL SYSTEM is DEFINITELY COMMUNIST.

Do you understand now the difference?

Unless your understanding of capitalism synonymous with democracy..

Still a hard core communist nation..?? how sure are you???? anung basehan mo for that comment?? Have you ever tried or experience to live in China even in a short time?

FOR YOUR INFO ALSO... China has a shameful human rights history by its communism, but that was before.. They are just still practicing a bit of it in a present time but we cannot totally call it communism now, but a DISCIPLINE.. Kaya hindi ganun kagulo, DAHIL MAY DISIPLINA.. may gulo man pero bihira lng kapag hndi na nila makontrol ang sitwasyon.'


I am very sure. Definitely sure. With certitude.

China is still a HARD CORE Communist country. Ruled by a monolithic party under a paramount leader.

Where can you find a capitalist China where private land ownership IS PROHIBITED. ALL LANDS ARE STATE OWNED.

^^ Actually, China still has a shameful human rights record. Just look at its brutal suppression of freedom of speech and religion.

Thats communism. "Agitators" and criminals are punished severely.

^^ Actually, China still has a shameful human rights record. Just look at its brutal suppression of freedom of speech and religion.



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^^ Actually, China still has a shameful human rights record. Just look at its brutal suppression of freedom of speech and religion.

ofcourse they still have, kaya nga "record" e.. so kahit magkaroon ng malaking pagbabago or magkaroon ng full democracy they still have the shameful human rights history because of that so called "record".. that was past and not in the present.

there is no restriction in religion at all, infact there are now some christian churches and community where everyone are free to join. The number of Chinese christian are increasing. Freedom of speech, just having a limitation.

anyway, lets end china topic here, lets move back to pasig river..
baka masita tayo.. okie?


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^^ Yes there are restrictions on religion. The Chinese Catholic Patriotic Association, for example, is the "official" Chinese Catholic Church, and the Chinese government bans any church from recognizing the Pope. Remember, China is officially atheist.

Just because the word is "record" doesn't mean that the word doesn't extend into the present.

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Why I like cleaning the Pasig River

Love the development in cleaning the Pasig River. We need this and we need to educate people.

It's nice, the squatters are gone in that area. But are there any preventive measures in place so the squatters cannot go back someday?

It's nice, the squatters are gone in that area. But are there any preventive measures in place so the squatters cannot go back someday?

I hope they will have long term plan for the relocated families and for the sustainability of the Pasig river.

Pasig ferry boats cited
October 17, 2009, 6:12pm

Commuters from the still flooded towns of Taguig, Pasig, and Taytay have lauded the efficient service being rendered by the Pasig River Ferry boats.

For almost three years now, the Pasig ferry boats have been of great help to the commuters, mostly employees and students.

“Pasig River Ferry is a big help to students of the Polytechnic University of the Philippines (PUP) who live in Taguig, Pasig , Taytay, Makati, Mandaluyong, and Sta. Ana, Manila.’’

Employees as well are spared from the daily nerve-wracking traffic snarls.

“Our children and visitors enjoy the sight seeing trip,’’ one mother said. “I get all the convenience, comfort in travelling through the river everyday going to Divisoria,’’ a businessman claimed.

The Pasig River Ferry offers clean, air-conditioned ships, and courteous crew members.

One can just sit, relax and enjoy watching movies until he /she reaches the station.

Most of the passengers are from the typhoon-affected areas of Taguig and Pasig. They said that travelling on boat is a good alternative for commuters.

They urged the ferry’s management to impose safety measures. “Pasig Ferry boats have helped us relieved of the worse traffic condition especially in going to Pasig , but may we ask the management to always exercise safety measures and field additional fleets and maintain its laudable service.’’ (Daisy Lou Talampas)
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^^ Yes there are restrictions on religion. The Chinese Catholic Patriotic Association, for example, is the "official" Chinese Catholic Church, and the Chinese government bans any church from recognizing the Pope. Remember, China is officially atheist.

Just because the word is "record" doesn't mean that the word doesn't extend into the present.

It is because the democracy that we have now is wherein people can do almost everything without direct consequence. Parang nagwawala na. Singapore is a democratic country, though, during the time of Lee Kuan Yew and even today, strict laws and rules are being implemented.

I think if we are going to be stricter in our laws particularly pertaining to this problem on garbage, the people would think we are on a military rule. You see what I mean? Our leaders tend to be lenient to gain people's approval.

We can also look the China in Present as the best one. They are now in a republic government but somehow still practicing being communist. The result, a disciplined community, government policies and rules are well implemented.
They have a very strict laws such as death penalty for graft and corruption.
Im not saying here that we must follow what china does have. But maybe that is what we need to have a disciplined, organized, and well progressed community.

There is nothing good in full democracy as what we presently have.!


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For your info, China is still a hard core Communist nation.

China's case is really unique. Yes, officially, the government is ruled by Communist party but the government fully supports capitalism, the thriving private businesses, economic zones, biggest car market, they have now the modern infrastructures - Maglev trains, modern airports, subways, toll roads, huge malls, exporting so much to the world and even lending money to US! The rise of 130 Billionaires (USD), and most importantly, the uplifting of millions of people from poverty.

That's a feat for China - the world's next superpower.

^^ Yes there are restrictions on religion. The Chinese Catholic Patriotic Association, for example, is the "official" Chinese Catholic Church, and the Chinese government bans any church from recognizing the Pope. Remember, China is officially atheist.

Just because the word is "record" doesn't mean that the word doesn't extend into the present.


yes there is a restriction in religion but that was before.. malaki na ang pinagbago ngayon..

GUANGZHOU - have catholic cathedral where anyone are free to come, there are also some christian fellowships and organizations comprises of both chinese and foreigners.
DONGGUAN - have catholic small church, have regular sunday mass.
SHENZHEN - also have catholic small church, regular mass on every sunday, and have born again christian fellowship..
(not confirmed kung ilan)

all this churches and fellowships are allowed and have concent from chinese government.. sa southern part pa lang ng mainland yan.. meron pa sa ibang province at may posibilidad pang madagdagan..

anyway, im insisting this matters hindi para makipag debate, para lang makapagbigay ng idea sa makakabasa ang advantage ng pagiging strict. in connection sa unang post about China communism.. Marami ng naging reporma sa chinese gov't although they still practicing communism or kahit sabihin natin na totally communist pa rin sila.. Look what is China now, wag na natin tingan ang pagiging moderno at hi-tech nila dahil puro copy lang naman yun.. but the life in china.. the life is very very convinient, ang pagkain at ibang pangunahing bilihin napaka-mura kahit i convert pa sa peso mura pa rin. Individual workers, professional and non are enjoying their salaries, no deduction aside from insurance. And because of their cruel punishment for those who commit crimes and go against the law, the citizen are disciplined and carefully obey their laws..

See what we have now, kanya kanya at halos wala ng disiplina AT ayaw ng dinidisiplina.. Corruption is everywhere and become a good business by our government officials. And the worst thing is habang tumatagal pahirap ng pahirap ang buhay..

So which one is better now, the communist or what they call cruel China that disciplined but give their citizen a very convinient way of living, or a very democratic Philippines but a lot of its people are in severe poverty..

peace!!


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RE: PASIG RIVER

I saw a post here I forgot who is the author, concerning to those illegal settlers in riverbanks in metro manila.. illegal na ngang tinayo ang mga bahay sa tabing ilog, pinapaupahan pa.. kaya yung mga nangungupahan, nangugupahan na nga pero illegal settler pa rin. He/She defenitely have a big point. Dapat kapag nirelocate sila, make sure na hindi mapupunta dun sa landlord yung slot. Ang problema karamihan sa ganyang sitwasyon, ang sinasabing landlord pala ay si barangay chairman/barangay captain. And the worst thing is, paano kung may kakilala si chairman/kapitan or si landlord sa agency na mamahala sa pag award ng mga unit para sa mga pamilyang irerelocate.. i mean baka yung mga marerelocate sa bandang huli is mangungupahan pa rin dahil kay landlord/chairman/kapitan pa rin pala naka award ang unit.

I hope there will also have a task force that will watch for this instances..


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RonnieR
China's case is really unique. Yes, officially, the government is ruled by Communist party but the government fully supports capitalism, the thriving private businesses, economic zones, biggest car market, they have now the modern infrastructures - Maglev trains, modern airports, subways, toll roads, huge malls, exporting so much to the world and even lending money to US! The rise of 130 Billionaires (USD), and most importantly, the uplifting of millions of people from poverty.

That's a feat for China - the world's next superpower.


Aside from their massive infrastructure development and continious booming of economy, Chinese government gives a very convinient way of living to its citizen. How I wish our government can also give us the same..

There is still doubt for China to become the world's next superpower, almost all things around china is a copy even some of their sophisticated military equipment.. Unlike to the western and some of Asian countries such as Japan, Korea, etc., they have their own ideas and studies or research and not relying to a blue prints..



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PASIG RIVER ULI

Sana kapag narelocate na ang mga informal settlers dun sa mga tabing ilog.. taniman nalang ng maraming puno at ibat ibang halaman at gawin nlang syang public park, para wala nang bumalik ang mga panibagong informal settlers.. parang yung katulad nung sa marikina riverpark.. makes the city looks more fresh and green, dagdag attraction pa.. this is only a suggestion..


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sorry nadoble hindi ko madelete kaya edit nalang..
peace!!

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China's case is really unique. Yes, officially, the government is ruled by Communist party but the government fully supports capitalism, the thriving private businesses, economic zones, biggest car market, they have now the modern infrastructures - Maglev trains, modern airports, subways, toll roads, huge malls, exporting so much to the world and even lending money to US! The rise of 130 Billionaires (USD), and most importantly, the uplifting of millions of people from poverty.

That's a feat for China - the world's next superpower.

the reason for the success of China is not due to the mix of Communism with a Capitalist face...it is due to the State sponsored repression of freedoms where the death penalty is implemented for crimes far less severe compared to crimes in countries that still have capital punishment...like rioting against the State. By definition, under this repression, infrastructure will be built like the 3 rivers dam..the largest hydroelectric facility in the world....in context, that is real economic progress.

Thats why China is more successful than India.

If you live in makati and the government tells you to pack up and report to the office in basilan and that will be for the overall good of the country, that is not anything to aspire to as a country, in my value system..

In the Philippines, lets not also confuse too much democracy with absolute lack of discipline and civility and civic mindedness.
The problem in this country is we bend over backwards to accommodate poor people believing in their logic that poverty is an excuse for disobeying the law..so at the basics a jeepney with real passengers but with the integrity of a coffin is allowed but other cars need smoke emission tests? and if you dictate the law thats known as oppression?

The right term for the economic system of China is Socialism or state sponsored capitalism.

No wonder, China and Vietnam are the haven for cheap labor because labor is severely repressed.

There is no such thing as labor movement in these countries. Thus, they attract TNCs that are naturally against restive labor who cannot bargain for more benefits.

So, if China wants to clear its environ of "squatters" they can easily do so and relocate all informal settlers in state owned mass housing aka. "apartments."

We cant just do that in the Philippines. First, the LINa law, second LGU that coddles professional squatters..third, its a business maintaining an army of informal settlers. Fourth, owners of factories polluting the river will either pull strings to stop government officials from evicting them.

In China, its either Chinese Gulag or hard labor or execution using one single bullet on the head.

congratulations to the people who made the clean up possible...:cheers:

there are more Indian, Chinese and Korean nationals migrating to the Philippines every year compared with new migrants to China despite China's new found riches...the reasons are obvious despite the fact that they are now the 3rd largest GDP country in the world.

Soon China will be the largest GDP country in the world but unique..unique because they will not be attracting any migrants. Normally a rich country is a haven for new migrants.

there are more Indian, Chinese and Korean nationals migrating to the Philippines every year compared with new migrants to China despite China's new found riches...the reasons are obvious despite the fact that they are now the 3rd largest GDP country in the world.

Soon China will be the largest GDP country in the world but unique..unique because they will not be attracting any migrants. Normally a rich country is a haven for new migrants.

China cannot attract immigrants plainly because she is a Communist country where human freedom is severely curtailed.

Here's Pasig River from my photo collection taken some two years ago...

:)

http://redmark.multiply.com/photos/album/78/Against_the_flow#

http://redmark.multiply.com/photos/album/55/A_river_runs_through_it

China cannot attract immigrants plainly because she is a Communist country where human freedom is severely curtailed.

that is true....because the philippines ay "parang isang restaurant na bukas sa lahat ng gustong kaumain" ...:lol: kidding aside...our soceity is very open wala na halos discrimination dito...sa sobrang democrazy dito sa pinas...ang mga bading ok lang maglipana kung saan saan pati sa congreso at senado naglipana na sila...ang mga babae...nagiging presidente na..naunahan pa natin ang mga kano na supposedly malakas ang feminist movement nila...nde na tayo nag di discriminate sa mga itim...sa maniwala kayo't sa hindi malakas pa rin ang discrimination ng non whites sa amerika...australia and other first wurld countries..

the chinese are coming because of the openness of our soceity uhaw sila sa democrazy...kaya benta sila lahat pati shabu ...

the koreans are coming because they are trying to establish escape havens in case of another war in their soil..madali silang makakalipad dito at mura ang cost of living natin dito....kaya kahit hindi sila mayaman sa korea kala mo mayayaman sila dito....nde nyo ba na notice na magaspang ang ugali ng ibang mga koreano...(sori po hindi lahat) sign yun na kulang sa breeding ang mga nakapasok dito...hindi talaga mga rich...

indians are coming because although they are a democratic country their caste system discrimintes people from the lower classes

Are Indians still practicing the caste system?

They come to the PHilippines coz the competition in China is too high. In the PHils they can fool pinoys to buy everything from cheap clothes to cheap defective used electronic gadgets, to shabu, tax free thanks to some local officials.

sana maging continous ang ginagawang clean up sa pasig river.. hindi lang dapat basta ayusin but panatilihing maayos at imonitor din to make sure na wala na uling magsusulputang ipanibagong nformal settlers kapag nairelocate na sila.. baka after ng term ni GMA ay mawalan na naman ng pakialam ang gobyerno, lalo na kung ang magiging next leader ay namemersonal.. baka ipahinto ang mga existing and pending project ni gloria just because nasa opposition side siya bago pa man maging pangulo..

at sana hindi lang pasig river, but the entire rivers in metro manila..

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yes there is a restriction in religion but that was before.. malaki na ang pinagbago ngayon..

GUANGZHOU - have catholic cathedral where anyone are free to come, there are also some christian fellowships and organizations comprises of both chinese and foreigners.
DONGGUAN - have catholic small church, have regular sunday mass.
SHENZHEN - also have catholic small church, regular mass on every sunday, and have born again christian fellowship..
(not confirmed kung ilan)

all this churches and fellowships are allowed and have concent from chinese government.. sa southern part pa lang ng mainland yan.. meron pa sa ibang province at may posibilidad pang madagdagan..

anyway, im insisting this matters hindi para makipag debate, para lang makapagbigay ng idea sa makakabasa ang advantage ng pagiging strict. in connection sa unang post about China communism.. Marami ng naging reporma sa chinese gov't although they still practicing communism or kahit sabihin natin na totally communist pa rin sila.. Look what is China now, wag na natin tingan ang pagiging moderno at hi-tech nila dahil puro copy lang naman yun.. but the life in china.. the life is very very convinient, ang pagkain at ibang pangunahing bilihin napaka-mura kahit i convert pa sa peso mura pa rin. Individual workers, professional and non are enjoying their salaries, no deduction aside from insurance. And because of their cruel punishment for those who commit crimes and go against the law, the citizen are disciplined and carefully obey their laws..

See what we have now, kanya kanya at halos wala ng disiplina AT ayaw ng dinidisiplina.. Corruption is everywhere and become a good business by our government officials. And the worst thing is habang tumatagal pahirap ng pahirap ang buhay..

So which one is better now, the communist or what they call cruel China that disciplined but give their citizen a very convinient way of living, or a very democratic Philippines but a lot of its people are in severe poverty..

peace!!


According to TIME magazine there are about 60 million Christians now in China and expected to hit 100 million in 2020. Yes, China is still officially an atheist nation but they are slowly easing it up when it comes to religion.

They are the target of Vatican and other Christian organizations... to convert them. At least, may panabla na sa mga Muslim na parang ipis lang kung dumami. I wouldn't be surprised if China becomes the newest Catholic or Christian nation and that would be 20 to 30 years from now.

Going back to Pasig, cleaning is a breeze but maintaining is a different story.

Are Indians still practicing the caste system?

They still have it. Nakapanood ako ng documentary dito, you will be shocked at how the caste system works in India. May isang Indian na pinakita ang uri ng trabaho nya - tagapaglinis sya ng dumi sa public toilet. Yun ang trabaho nya kasi sya ay outcast at base sa kinabibilangan nyang class, iniiwasan sya mismo ng ibang Indians. Kahit magaral sya wala syang way makaalis sa class nya at ang magiging anak nya at future generation nila ganon ang magiging class.

here's one reading material regarding dredging.

http://www.nww.usace.army.mil/dmmp/report.htm
Walla Walla District
Final Dredged Material Management Plan and
Environmental Impact Statement (DMMP/EIS)

McNary Reservoir and Lower Snake River Reservoirs

Lead Agency: U.S. Army Corps of Engineers
Walla Walla District
210 North 3rd Avenue
Walla Walla, WA 99362-1876
Cooperating Agency: U.S. Environmental Protection Agency
Region 10
1200 Sixth Avenue
Seattle, WA 98101
For further information contact: Jack Sands, Project Manager
U.S. Army Corps of Engineers
Walla Walla District
201 North 3rd Avenue
Walla Walla, WA 99362-1876
(509) 527-7287
Record of Decision: At least 30 days after publishing the Notice of Availability of the Final DMMP/EIS in the Federal Register, the Corps will prepare a Record of Decision documenting the action resulting from this process.

Abstract:

This Final DMMP/EIS presents the Corps of Engineers' programmatic plan for maintenance of the authorized navigation channel in the lower Snake River reservoirs between Lewiston, Idaho, and the Columbia River, and McNary reservoir on the Columbia River for 20 years; for management of dredged material from these reservoirs; and for maintenance of flow conveyance capacity at the most upstream extent of the Lower Granite reservoir for the remaining economic life of the dam and reservoir project (to year 2074). The Corps, along with the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, analyzed four alternatives for this Final DMMP/EIS: Alternative 1 - No Action (No Change) - Maintenance Dredging With In-Water Disposal, Alternative 2 - Maintenance Dredging With In-Water Disposal to Create Fish Habitat and a 3-Foot [0.9-meter (m)] Levee Raise, Alternative 3 - Maintenance Dredging With Upland Disposal and a 3-Foot (0.9-m) Levee Raise, and Alternative 4 - Maintenance Dredging With Beneficial Use of Dredged Material and a 3-Foot (0.9-m) Levee Raise (Recommended Plan/Preferred Alternative).

Passed by pasig river(escolta area) daily and i can see the hi-tech dredging machine and barge working non-stop. Sobra palang dumi ng pasig grabe. I saw bed, bicycle, a piano(yes a piano) and other unprintable stuffs in it.

^^ grabe pala pati bed? siguro dahil sa bagyong Ondoy to. inanod

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article2323032.ece

My British friend told me that The Sun is a known sensationalist tabloid which the average Brit do not usually take seriously. Para siyang Abante na walang bold at Xerex.

ano kaya yung 'unprintable stuff'

My British friend told me that The Sun is a known sensationalist tabloid which the average Brit do not usually take seriously. Para siyang Abante na walang bold at Xerex.

But we can't deny that those kind of creeks DO exist in manila. What they showed is just a tiny part of the big ice berg..

malamang yung unprintable ay feces....printable naman diba?