Height: 595 ft
Floor count: 54
Location: East Roosevelt and South Indiana
Construction end: 2009
Architect: Pappageorge/Haymes, Ltd.
Developer: Forest City Enterprises

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/7800/ompwpl0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Seems really odd for the rendering to not show, you know, that little building that will be to the east of it. Or the ones to the south, either.

Seems really odd for the rendering to not show, you know, that little building that will be to the east of it. Or the ones to the south, either.

Actually, that's fairly common. Renderings are obviously marketing tools designed to sell units by casting the building in the most favorable light possible, even if that means eliminating neighboring buildings.

simply design, but great...i love it

Yeah - it's really a cheat to edit your photographs like that, but it's common enough. Especially in this case, where a taller building is going east of it. If they had included 1MP in their plans, people would be very worried about view issues.

The problem I have with it here is that they are both done by the same developer, same architects, and designed to complement each other, yet we have no renderings that show them together (although there is a model).

One more issue: Why don't they call it Two Museum Park? It would make more sense. Is that some psychological strategy so it doesn't sound inferior?

this is exciting,
it looks like this area is becoming more like a neigborhood,
its reminds me a little of what fullerton looks like near clark
and east towards the zoo, we need better retail and action by there,
but this is cool,

one museum park west is a good name,
separating itself from the other building,
and its not a sequel, its just a different building, similar style,
hopefully of equal stature and quality.
thats how the name comes off to me.
one museum park part II doesnt sound good.

no major setback either,
the audacity! :)

If they had included 1MP in their plans, people would be very worried about view issues.
But Central Station makes a big deal about your deed guaranteeing your view forever. And anyone interested will visit the sales center where the big model shows all the buildings east, west, and south of it.

Seems like Central Station is trying to build Museum Park as a brand, which seems a little silly to me, especially when you can't keep them all straight. I don't know what would be wrong with 201 East Roosevelt Road. But this is the guy who wanted to change the name of "Indiana Avenue" because he thought it would discourage sales.

Who says they don't show them together?

Post #206 on the OMP thread
http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/676/omp1jb.jpg

Even if you go to the MP or OMP website, you'll see this rendering.

I love this pairing of buildings. The compliment each other while still being pretty different from one another. Currently this area doesn't have heavy foot traffic, does it? I was wondering if pedestrians will have a hard time getting around since the buildings will have busy boulevard-style roads on each side.

Indiana doesn't have nearly the traffic that Roosevelt does, and since most of the retail/restaurants are south of Roosevelt, it shouldn't be a huge issue for residents to walk. Crossing Roosevelt to get to Grant Park is somewhat of a pain unless you do it at Michigan.

I hadn't seen the two paired together in a rendering until just now. They look GREAT together!

..

I hadn't seen the two paired together in a rendering until just now. They look GREAT together!

It's a match made in heaven.

^^ that's for sure, can't wait to see them rise

Love this pair. SImple yet elegant. IMO, they could use some height though. While 730/620 is plenty, I wouldnt mind 1000/750 :D

The foot traffic at central station is minimal to nothing except the occassional dog walkers and joggers. I can't believe how quiet and low key it is here for being so close to the central area of the city. OMP is going up fairly quickly, and after they built it and OMPWest they'll still have two more huge structures to go between indiana and michigan on roosevelt. It's unbelievable how little goes on here considering the boom, but retail and entertainment is on the way- new jimmy john's opened this week in the 1250 s mich complex.

Love this pair. SImple yet elegant. IMO, they could use some height though. While 730/620 is plenty, I wouldnt mind 1000/750 :D

Yeah, we all say that.

Remember, we have the other 2 planned towers west of Indiana. I've heard rumors that the tower at the corner of Michigan and Roosevelt could be the tallest.

Most of the retail/eateries will be on Michigan Avenue more than likely. Hp[efully within the next decade, Michigan Avenue south of Congress will be a destination just as north Michigan Avenue is.

The foot traffic at central station is minimal to nothing except the occassional dog walkers and joggers. I can't believe how quiet and low key it is here for being so close to the central area of the city. OMP is going up fairly quickly, and after they built it and OMPWest they'll still have two more huge structures to go between indiana and michigan on roosevelt. It's unbelievable how little goes on here considering the boom, but retail and entertainment is on the way- new jimmy john's opened this week in the 1250 s mich complex.

^ Here's to hoping it's not all crappy chain retail

Who says they don't show them together?

Post #206 on the OMP thread
http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/676/omp1jb.jpg

^ Ahh, that's a match made in heaven.

It really gets me wondering what they've got planned for that green plot south of OMPW. I really hope they don't keep it as another boring park--that would be a silly waste of space

I really hope they don't keep it as another boring park--that would be a silly waste of space

And somewhat superfluous, considering the proximity to Grant Park and the fact that there's already a park/playground in the low-rise portion of the development. You can see it right of center, partially obscured, in this photo by KCgridlock at SSP:

http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/6002/img1559sized0ph.jpg

..

Is the plan for the two buildings to be completed roughly at the same time, or is it expected that OMP West will be completed awhile after its neighbor to the east?

Is the plan for the two buildings to be completed roughly at the same time, or is it expected that OMP West will be completed awhile after its neighbor to the east?

I can only assume One Museum Park will be completed before OMPW. In case you didn't know, OMP has been under construction for a while now.

We have a thread on it: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=166720

A couple of shots by Chicago Shawn
https://extranet.emporis.com/files/transfer/6/2007/01/510140.jpg

https://extranet.emporis.com/files/transfer/6/2007/01/510141.jpg

Believe it or not the grassy area that you see in the rendering is proposed to be another a 4 story parking structure with one 30 story tower and town homes. The tower itself is positioned on the very northerly end and will have have views between Tower 4 and OMP1.
By the way Thanks i_am_hydrogen for opening a OMPW thread.

Wait... the grassy area south of the Museum Parks, along Indiana, or west of the Museum Parks, on Roosevelt?

If it's the area to the south, then a 30-story tower with townhomes is just fine there. It's the buildings fronting Grant Park that need to be supertalls.

Wait... the grassy area south of the Museum Parks, along Indiana, or west of the Museum Parks, on Roosevelt?

If it's the area to the south, then a 30-story tower with townhomes is just fine there. It's the buildings fronting Grant Park that need to be supertalls.

^ I'm pretty sure he meant south. The buildings along Roosevelt most assuredly will be quite a bit taller than 30 stories

Yeah, I checked Emporis. 1251 South Indiana (grass lot, east side of Indiana) is pegged at 34 stories.

1200 South Indiana and 1201 South Michigan (the ones on Roosevelt) are both pegged at 60.

Some digging was done today at the site for OMPW by a backhoe.

^^ Yeah I noticed yesterday that there were dump trucks lined up on Indiana all the way past 13th street. Can't to see these two (OMP1 & OMPW) rising at the same time.

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/7800/ompwpl0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


.

Way off topic but is/was there any discussion about putting a green roof on the east McCormack building? It looks massive, like a multi football field size.
There does not have to be anything special, I mean some rich loam, prairie grass and let it go.

Way off topic but is/was there any discussion about putting a green roof on the east McCormack building? It looks massive, like a multi football field size.
There does not have to be anything special, I mean some rich loam, prairie grass and let it go.

Probally not, it wasn't built with that intent and it would not be finacially viable option for the corporate mindset of Mcpier Co. There is a lot more to it then just throwing grass seed on the roof, they have to actually add a ton of structual supports to the entire building because of the thousands of more pounds it adds, I wish but probally not unless Daley really goes after them on it.

Lakeside Center (the 1971 building) was a pioneering use of space frames to reduce interior columns--the necessary 36 columns are set on 150-foot centers! It would be hard to add anything but Chia grass to the roof.

Noticed 2 large caisson cranes being assembled on site this morning.

Those renderings really do play with the surrounding quite a bit. I mean they have the Roosevelt metra station rendings out and construction (hopefully) set to start on that new station soon. Yet in these renderings it's a nice grass park right out to almost where the old station is today (it's a little off the shot, but still....looks like a normal park in the rendering). They're REALLY gonna have to work a lot and cover those rails, etc. Roosevelt is a bridge in that area now, on the renderings it looks like a nice road leading from Indiana to Lakeshore...all nice and landscaped.

It'd be awesome if they did any of this - but are there even plans, or just a marketing scheme??

It would be a MASSIVE project in itself.

http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/676/omp1jb.jpg

http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/2861/centralstationmy6.jpg
(I copied these pictures from above, and a similar thread on OMPW)

Taken today:

http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/410/ompwestuf0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

..

I had an extended conversation with a Bovis Supervisor this weekend when they were raising the crane on OMP. He has been with Bovis for 29 years and never worked a site that did the cement pilings. He said that they couldn't use the sheet pile on this site because of the concussion rigs that drive the pile would create too much vibration for the Roosevelt Bridge and 2 tunnels that run under Indiana, that they didn't want anything to collapse. He said that the wall goes down about 70 feet.

He said that they have at least another month before we will see bedrock caissons going down and then they have to excavate down 4 levels for parking that are below ground for this tower.

This is quite a bit slower that I would have thought.

Hope this adds some context to Loopy’s pics

..

Damn, I would like to see the cost difference between the two alternatives (sheetpile vs. Bored pile). So if it isn't intended to carry any loads, than I guess it isn't a foundation = Not under construction.

I think Steely made the call that this bored pile is part of the permanent structure and therefore it's U/C. I don't know the costs but maybe Centrum can give us some more technical info and costs. I don't know if he checks anything other than the Roosevelt Collection.

I wonder what this is doing to the OMPW construction timeline?

http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l221/Mansmith_2006/imresolt111gb5.jpg

Found this on a thread for Dubai, UAE Marina Supertall (1000 Ft)

This is what your doing at OMPW - Thought it gives us a idea of why its taking so long. Loopy supplied us with a smaller picture earlier.

Who says they don't show them together?

Post #206 on the OMP thread
http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/676/omp1jb.jpg

Even if you go to the MP or OMP website, you'll see this rendering.

:dance:


http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f21/cbotnyse/smiley/attachment-15.php.gifhttp://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f21/cbotnyse/smiley/attachment-15.php.gifhttp://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f21/cbotnyse/smiley/attachment-15.php.gifhttp://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f21/cbotnyse/smiley/attachment-15.php.gif

Not bad. The base is a little weak in my opinion. Too bad the city didn't enforce the
'100 foot streetwall' datum that is enforced all along Michigan Avenue.

I'm not so sure about that west tower's top though. I mean it's ok I suppose. Maye a little too 'one-liner-ish'. Convince me, someone who really likes it. =)

Not bad. The base is a little weak in my opinion. Too bad the city didn't enforce the
'100 foot streetwall' datum that is enforced all along Michigan Avenue.

I'm not so sure about that west tower's top though. I mean it's ok I suppose. Maye a little too 'one-liner-ish'. Convince me, someone who really likes it. =)

I dont even know what you are talking about specifically or in general, this duo is sick.
the base looks fine, it has a neat sixties type adjoining bar on the bottom,
used in a new way to join two buildings with similar motifs, instead of two symmetrical or identical buildings,

I agree: the base is a little "weak", but I'd rather have that than an overpowering parking podium (stating the obvious, of course.) As for the top, it's better than your typical square mechanical penthouse, and with the rounded top thingy it ties in with OMP next door a little. It may not be uber-spectacular, but I think it's got enough character to be a good addition to the street wall. Can't wait to see the green glass next to the blue.

Maybe the other 2 towers to the west will have, like, gold and purple glass. (ok, maybe not...)

The tops of OMP and OMPW kind of look like they'd fit together. Like they were once a metal and glass pangea.

What's up with this project, anyone have any new pictures?

What's up with this project, anyone have any new pictures?

This is the slowest building in the history of construction, maybe the Great Pyramid took a little longer, I'm not sure. They must be using the same :ancient: techniques...

^Yeah, this one ranks right up there with the Clare in terms of the length of time it's taking to rise out of the ground.

353 North Clark seems like it's taking forever, too. Maybe it's just because i get daily photo updates, and each day doesn't show very much progress.

On the flipside, Roosevelt Collection seems to be shooting up like the weed it is.

Core (taken today):
http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/4049/ompw74ys5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Taken tonight:
http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/2818/onemuseumparkay9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

This is the slowest building in the history of construction, maybe the Great Pyramid took a little longer, I'm not sure. They must be using the same :ancient: techniques...

We're lucky that this is still rising given the economy. I find it very funny that a Cub fan is complaining about things taken a long time. :ohno::ohno:

I find it very funny that a Cub fan is complaining about things taken a long time. :ohno::ohno:

^ Ouch! You know that wasn't right..

maybe when the second tower is done, the first one won't look like it's flipping-off the city any more.

We're lucky that this is still rising given the economy. I find it very funny that a Cub fan is complaining about things taken a long time. :ohno::ohno:

Wow! Great observation! :lol:

Sorry Cubsfan....Being a Sox fan I just couldn't help myself.

Sux suck.

Anywayyy.
This is pretty slow. No complains though. Atleast slow is better then these other towers who have halted.

So... are they going to clad the core of OMP with the tower crane of OMPW? Because they still haven't finished it!

So... are they going to clad the core of OMP with the tower crane of OMPW? Because they still haven't finished it!


I'm done even checking once a week. The core cladding hasnt progressed in months.

Today (from Roosevelt stop):
http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/7564/dsc058877670956ra1.jpg
http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/5648/dsc058887678904ic7.jpg

Taken 1/16:
http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/6854/ompw116au3.jpg

These towers create their own individual skyline for the Southern part of our city. This is just great! This development and new skyline will transform Chicago into the skyscraper mecca! This city will now have a southern skyline that will grow and hopefully had a supertall one day..

This city is heading in the direction of becoming one of the best cities on earth!!

I stayed at the Hyatt at McCormick a few years ago. Where is that in perspective to this photo?

I stayed at the Hyatt at McCormick a few years ago. Where is that in perspective to this photo?

Looks like it would be the tall square building in the left corner. By tall I mean relative to the buildings surrounding it.

These towers create their own individual skyline for the Southern part of our city. This is just great! This development and new skyline will transform Chicago into the skyscraper mecca! This city will now have a southern skyline that will grow and hopefully had a supertall one day..

This city is heading in the direction of becoming one of the best cities on earth!!

I think someone just got a building boner!

Edit: wrong thread.

Top of the core is visible from the west, which means its barely taller than 1212 South Michigan... so it has to be at least 100m/330ft.

They put up 2 levels of glass now.

Taken on 3/26:
http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/9630/ompwest326.jpg

cf, 1/16:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3367/3204938343_ca770cc9cf_o.jpg

thanks for the update hydro :cheers:

Very nice!

At CAF Wednesday, the architect talking about OMPE was asked why OMPW was shorter. He explained that they didn't want the buildings to be similar height, but also . . . . wait for it . . . . . they couldn't squeeze in any more parking to allow OMPW to go taller.

I hardly find that shocking, considering the target market for these condos.

At CAF Wednesday, the architect talking about OMPE was asked why OMPW was shorter. He explained that they didn't want the buildings to be similar height, but also . . . . wait for it . . . . . they couldn't squeeze in any more parking to allow OMPW to go taller.

I wonder how many spots per unit were required. And whether they thought of decreasing parking by including partnerships with Zipcar for the residents of the building.

None were required.

As Flubnut points out, at this price point, developers find that they will sell about 0.8 spaces per unit, and they need most of that to make the units saleable. Many of the residents will be retired, using the unit as a pied à terre, or have weekend homes in the country.

parking is required per the city of chicago zoning code for residential buildings. it used to be in the past that it wasn't for apartments, but even in that case it is now.

the minimum required parking ratio for a residential condominium building is 1 parking space per dwelling unit, however in recent years, the city has sometimes asked for more.

parking is required per the city of chicago zoning code for residential buildings. it used to be in the past that it wasn't for apartments, but even in that case it is now.

the minimum required parking ratio for a residential condominium building is 1 parking space per dwelling unit, however in recent years, the city has sometimes asked for more.

Didn't know that. Depressing.

Taken on 5/2 (One Museum Park West at left, One Museum Park at right):
http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/7714/ompw52final.jpg

^ I take it that a wicked sorcerer lives on top of this thing?

The wicked sorcerer certainly isn't in a huge hurry to finish the cladding. Didn't they start work on the final section last fall?

The wicked sorcerer certainly isn't in a huge hurry to finish the cladding. Didn't they start work on the final section last fall?

Originally Posted by Broderick Teaming Co

Good to hear from you. OMP is going again but very slowly. We finally did get some engineering fixes for the concrete that has been causing us the delays. The plan is to finish leveling out the units on the 22nd floor of the shear wall then demobilizing until after winter some time in March.

I attached a few pictures of the building for you. The exposed concrete is what we have left. Its about 40 floors or so that are still in Mexico ( 22 units per floor).

Doh! Sorry, I shoulda remembered that...

Taken on 5/2:
http://img387.imageshack.us/img387/7846/ompw523.jpg

* jaw drops *

5/31

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3341/3588953033_c78d1a69a9_b.jpg

June 12th 2009

http://www.izipik.com/images/200906/13/n9ohp2lc7dq5kocg8z-25.jpg

http://www.izipik.com/images/200906/13/juc8yjjulm27m748gj-26.jpg

http://www.izipik.com/images/200906/13/l3kmfei8xpevj8buv2-27.jpg

http://www.izipik.com/images/200906/13/iy0esckdaluim6ef25-28.jpg

http://www.izipik.com/images/200906/13/kq1l8hh239joja4p2c-29.jpg

Topped out - Update from SSP:

8.2
http://www.j-carlson.com/ancilary/omp82a.jpg

http://www.j-carlson.com/ancilary/omp82b.jpg

I'm so glad they are finally finishing the back side of 1 Museum park. that seemed to be on hold for quite some time

The west tower helps keep the east tower from looking out of place. It would be nice if towers three and four happen some day!

http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/2748/img0410an.jpg

The west tower helps keep the east tower from looking out of place. It would be nice if towers three and four happen some day!

http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/2748/img0410an.jpg

They will. The views are unbeatable.

^ Agreed. Ain't no way in hell people won't be clamoring to get a unit with those kinds of views, except for in the worst of economic slumps such as the one we are currently in.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3541/3850406944_46cb150003_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2581/3849429221_970a20e29a_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3530/3849430913_06bc3fb5de_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2607/3850223066_142644a13a_b.jpg

In the middle photo above, what are the little wheeled doo-hickies supposed to be doing on the side of the building?

http://img382.imageshack.us/img382/4046/dsc0476212.jpg

large..

what is going on with the crown of Museum Park East? There is still some sort of crane on top and it doesnt look like its quite finished.

Does anyone have a really good zoom on their camera?? :)

Are you referring to the window-washing crane?

Are you referring to the window-washing crane?

Possibly. I'm not sure what that small crane is. If it is a window washing crane, is it permanent?

these buildings belong in a suburban office park, not at the south end of grant park. height does not make right.

these buildings belong in a suburban office park, not at the south end of grant park. height does not make right.

What kind of suburban office park has buildings like these?

The Columbian and One Museum Park West, flanking the east end of Roosevelt Road.

http://i46.tinypic.com/3338vsz.jpg

super

what a delicious gateway/framing effect those two buildings have.

Fantastic update from jc @ SSP:

http://www.j-carlson.com/ancilary/omp213a.jpg

http://www.j-carlson.com/ancilary/omp213b.jpg

http://www.j-carlson.com/ancilary/omp213c.jpg

http://www.j-carlson.com/ancilary/omp213d.jpg

Man, someone needs to update the panorama on wikipedia, if only to include this building among the many other new ones south of Grant Park.

The west tower helps keep the east tower from looking out of place. It would be nice if towers three and four happen some day!

http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/2748/img0410an.jpg

You actually want two more of these diseases forming the south grant park wall? :puke:

June 12th 2009

http://www.izipik.com/images/200906/13/l3kmfei8xpevj8buv2-27.jpg


Why hello Thermal bridging, so nice to meet you :bash:

i'm no engineer, so what's the thermal bridging problem in that shot?

The thermal bridging is occurs because the floor plates extend beyond the outside wall to create a balcony without any thermal barrier between the two thermal zones. In the winter when the concrete on the outside gets down to freezing temps, it will also have a big impact on the temperature of the floors on the inside which is what thermal bridging is.
In Chicago and other northern cities the Chicago Style balcony tends to be the most popular balcony used on buildings where it is bolted to the exterior of the building while southern cities tend to do the above style to create balconies.

The thermal bridging is occurs because the floor plates extend beyond the outside wall to create a balcony without any thermal barrier between the two thermal zones. In the winter when the concrete on the outside gets down to freezing temps, it will also have a big impact on the temperature of the floors on the inside which is what thermal bridging is.
In Chicago and other northern cities the Chicago Style balcony tends to be the most popular balcony used on buildings where it is bolted to the exterior of the building while southern cities tend to do the above style to create balconies.

Ohhh thanks for that. So the above kind of balcony is the exception rather than the rule in chicago buildings?

The thermal bridging is occurs because the floor plates extend beyond the outside wall to create a balcony without any thermal barrier between the two thermal zones. In the winter when the concrete on the outside gets down to freezing temps, it will also have a big impact on the temperature of the floors on the inside which is what thermal bridging is.
In Chicago and other northern cities the Chicago Style balcony tends to be the most popular balcony used on buildings where it is bolted to the exterior of the building while southern cities tend to do the above style to create balconies.

So there's no magical engineering trick to keep that from happening? or will everyone in this building w/ a balcony notice this issue?

So there's no magical engineering trick to keep that from happening? or will everyone in this building w/ a balcony notice this issue?

it depends on if there is a thermal break within the concrete to reduce the loss of heat. I obviously cant say for sure without seeing specs to this building of course.

Best example of thermal bridges are usually window frames, if you go to one in your house and place your hand need them, you should feel colder air than what is in your house...this is where you are losing energy and obviously, heat.

Fantastic update from jc @ SSP:

I actually like the top of the building/roof much better than the original renderings. Maybe because One Museum Park has a curved crown, now the West building is square at the crown.

http://chicagoismynewblog.wordpress.com

Ohhh thanks for that. So the above kind of balcony is the exception rather than the rule in chicago buildings?

Unfortunately no. Developers (some, not all) who have no stake in the life cycle costs of their projects find it easier and cheaper to do monolithic floor slab pours. Hence the higher life cycle costs get passed onto the individual property owners and eventually the building association as a whole.

So there's no magical engineering trick to keep that from happening? or will everyone in this building w/ a balcony notice this issue?

No magical engineering trick. The concrete on the outside most be separated from the interior floor slab by a non-conductive material.

And yes, everyone in that building with a balcony will notice this issue.

(Taken by me)
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3409/4651389346_ce4d09a7de_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/iamhydrogen/4651389346/)

Taken tonight:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4149/5040772906_a07e427ba1_o.jpg