...let's continue here. :)

(Our Baltic friends seem to have a aviation thread going strong already).

FlyMe kommer förvärva 51% av River Don, moderbolag till Global supply systems ltdsom bl.a äger tre 747:or. Global Supply Systems Ltd och FlyMe kommer starta ett samarbetsprojekt för att på sikt starta LCC-långdistans passagerartrafik till Asien.

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/4663/10408041ij.jpg

Well you certanly know how make all Nordic people feel welcome to this thread.

^^
Perhaps "Nordic Aviation Thread" is a better thread title - maybe the moderators can change it. :)

Keflavík International Airport (Reykjavík) - Leifur Eiríksson Air Terminal:
2 019 000 passengers in 2006, +11%

http://www.airport.is/english/top/news/default.aspx?path=/resources/Controls/43.ascx&C=ConnectionString&Q=Top%203%20News&Groups=1&ID=366&Prefix=268

^^
Perhaps "Nordic Aviation Thread" is a better thread title - maybe the moderators can change it. :)

Prehaps.

PS. Thread authors can change the title themselves by editing the first post of the thread.

...let's continue here. :)

(Our Baltic friends seem to have a aviation thread going strong already).

since the other one is closed, perhaps you could start this thread with a little bit of fact and stats....Just to awoid questions already answered, if newcomers have any....:)

Fixed the title of the thread

well done!

India seems to be THE destination and place to go now! :D

Finnair flights to India to be quadrupled: Flights to Mumbai all set for June launch

Finnair is set for a massive boost to the fast growing Asian market with significant increases in traffic to India and China. In response to strong demand, the number of weekly flights to India will increase from the current three to 12, while there will also be an increase in flights to China.

In June, Finnair will launch a new Indian route with flights to Mumbai, which will be served non-stop from Helsinki five days a week. Moreover, in mid-May the current three-weekly frequency for flights to the Indian capital Delhi will be increased to daily.

"It will be extremely hard, if not impossible for airlines to secure new arrival and departure slots at Indian airports in the coming years," says Henrik Arle, Finnair's Deputy CEO, responsible for Scheduled Passenger Traffic. "By adding to its Indian scheduled traffic just now, Finnair is ensuring its presence in these fast growing markets."

Meanwhile, Finnair's China traffic will increase in mid-May, with the boosting in frequency of non-stop Hong Kong services from four times a week to daily. Non-stop services will continue over the next winter timetable season. The Chinese network will be further strengthened with the addition of a fourth weekly flight to Guangzhou.

"Following these renewals, we will fly to all our long-haul destinations non-stop, without stopovers," says Arle. "Daily flights bring more alternatives for our customers."

The changes about to be implemented also significantly increase the efficiency of the Finnair long-haul fleet usage. The number of weekly long-haul flights from Helsinki will increase from 61 to 66. The monthly passenger kilometre totals offered by Finnair on long-haul traffic will consequently grow by 2,5 per cent.

As a result of the increases in Indian and Chinese traffic, the onward flights from Bangkok to Singapore will no longer be operated. Singapore and the flights previously planned for Kuala Lumpur will be served in cooperation with partner airlines.

All in all Finnair Asian traffic will grow this year by over 30 per cent since Finnair is adding two new Airbus A340 aircraft for the long-haul fleet during May and June.

http://www.finnairgroup.com/en/index.html

finnair is droign great! :cheers:

Yeah sounds so. They offer a decent product at a decent price.

finnair is droign great! :cheers:

I must say that my experience with Finn air is very bad. uncomfortable old planes, not modern at all and water dripping down on the seats from the vent. Not even on long trip from Singapore to Copenhagen they manage to have a modern and comfortable equipments on board. The service is bad to and i think they use illegal cheap Asian stewardesses.
Before i thought Finn air was very good and high standard, since its a Nordic and a EU country but it more seemed like a eastern Europe company.

I must say that my experience with Finn air is very bad. uncomfortable old planes, not modern at all and water dripping down on the seats from the vent. Not even on long trip from Singapore to Copenhagen they manage to have a modern and comfortable equipments on board. The service is bad to and i think they use illegal cheap Asian stewardesses.
Before i thought Finn air was very good and high standard, since its a Nordic and a EU country but it more seemed like a eastern Europe company.

If i was going to fly long-haul i would avid 757's anyways, but i assume that Finnairs A340's has got screens and other things to keep you busy.

It certainly looks absolutely beautiful.

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1129954/L/

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1129954/L/
That sure is one hell of a beauty! And I like that little message on it :D

I must say that my experience with Finn air is very bad. uncomfortable old planes, not modern at all and water dripping down on the seats from the vent. Not even on long trip from Singapore to Copenhagen they manage to have a modern and comfortable equipments on board. The service is bad to and i think they use illegal cheap Asian stewardesses.
Before i thought Finn air was very good and high standard, since its a Nordic and a EU country but it more seemed like a eastern Europe company.
Weird. I have flown with Finnair many times and never experienced anything like that.

Weird. I have flown with Finnair many times and never experienced anything like that.

Yes, odd...It's almost as if he makes the whole thing up, because he hates Finnair...:nuts: Or Finland....

I must say that my experience with Finn air is very bad. uncomfortable old planes, not modern at all and water dripping down on the seats from the vent. Not even on long trip from Singapore to Copenhagen they manage to have a modern and comfortable equipments on board. The service is bad to and i think they use illegal cheap Asian stewardesses.
Before i thought Finn air was very good and high standard, since its a Nordic and a EU country but it more seemed like a eastern Europe company.

Old MDs that are being replaced by 340s. Water dropping from vents (air conditioner) is quite common and i didnt know Finnair flew Cph-Singapore.

No European airliner can compete with the Asian & Arabic 5 star airliners ;)

People don't fly with finnair due to the comfort, but for the cheap price and for a not-so-long-time-in-the-air experience ;) at least I would

Old MDs that are being replaced by 340s. Water dropping from vents (air conditioner) is quite common and i didnt know Finnair flew Cph-Singapore.

No European airliner can compete with the Asian & Arabic 5 star airliners ;)

People don't fly with finnair due to the comfort, but for the cheap price and for a not-so-long-time-in-the-air experience ;) at least I would

MD-11s are going to be around still for a while and they are replaced by Airbus A350s when available. Can't remember exact year now. As far as i know those A340s are just leased to add capacity meanwhile and get rid of after. Currently Finnair only has one 340 and those 7 MD-11. Interior should be quite new. What i think and have heard. Though haven't been in MD-11 in many years. Atleast in business class there are those new lie-flat seats and whole fleet is one of the newest in Europe. Airbuses and Embraers... just those biggest ones are older.

Finnair has almost as many widebodies as SAS even though Scandinavian is flag carrier for three countries and Finnair for one. SAS 11 and Finnair 8. Quite well for Finnair =).

People don't fly with finnair due to the comfort, but for the cheap price and for a not-so-long-time-in-the-air experience ;)

I'm sorry for that i tend to be a bit "slow" sometimes, but I have to ask though - Were you sarcastic with that sentence?

^^
Apart from that winking smiley-face, I see no indication of that.
Finnair is a great low-cost alternative if you want to fly to Asia from northern Europe - I know tons of Swedish people that have used Finnair this way.
Although AY's long-haul product isn't really on par with the bigger players in Europe, "you get what you pay for". This is what I've heard, as I haven't flown Finnair myself. I prefer SAS's direct services from Copenhagen or one of the Asian Star Alliance carriers such as Singapore Airlines, THAI or ANA.

Finnair is a great low-cost alternative if you want to fly to Asia from northern Europe - I know tons of Swedish people that have used Finnair this way.

Sure. That's because Finnair has its "orient strategy" due to Finland's location.

But when I've booked flights from Helsinki to central european cities, SAS has always been cheaper than Finnair. Always. That's why we have used it so many times.

Although AY's long-haul product isn't really on par with the bigger players in Europe, "you get what you pay for". This is what I've heard, as I haven't flown Finnair myself.

I've flown both, Finnar and SAS. And I have to say that according to my own experiences from those flights, Finnair beats SAS in every sense, except the price level. For example, Finnair has LCD-screens showing weather information, etc. - even in budget class seats.

I'm not praising Finnair here (like DW), cause it certainly isn't the best airline on earth. So, I'm not being biased or patriotic here, but calling Finnair a "low-cost airline" sounds just ignorant. Of course those cheap flights to Asia may be different thing than flights between European capitals.

no, neither would I call Finnair a low cost airline. i´ve travelled with them a couple of times and the service has always been great.

Me neither. Absolutely not.

I'm sorry for that i tend to be a bit "slow" sometimes, but I have to ask though - Were you sarcastic with that sentence?
no, why should I :)



Sure. That's because Finnair has its "orient strategy" due to Finland's location.

But when I've booked flights from Helsinki to central european cities, SAS has always been cheaper than Finnair. Always. That's why we have used it so many times.
SAS might be cheaper than Finnar when it comes to flights within Europe but we talked about flights to Asia here ;)

I've flown both, Finnar and SAS. And I have to say that according to my own experiences from those flights, Finnair beats SAS in every sense, except the price level. For example, Finnair has LCD-screens showing weather information, etc. - even in budget class seats.

I'm not praising Finnair here (like DW), cause it certainly isn't the best airline on earth. So, I'm not being biased or patriotic here, but calling Finnair a "low-cost airline" sounds just ignorant. Of course those cheap flights to Asia may be different thing than flights between European capitals.

Same here but i cant say I've experienced any bigger differances except that finnair got some old planes. Didn't know finnair had lcd-screens on every seat on their airplanes. Never experienced that on any flights within Europe before :)

Same here but i cant say I've experienced any bigger differances except that finnair got some old planes. Didn't know finnair had lcd-screens on every seat on their airplanes. Never experienced that on any flights within Europe before :)

No they don't have lcds in every seat, don't know about that A340 but others don't. Finnair has very new fleet now with no md-80 planes anymore like SAS has lots of. And definitely not low-cost airline in any sence :weird: :lol: !

Jape,
Some corrections:

There's a big difference between long haul and intra-Europe flights. Finnair's intra-Europe product is supposed to be really good (better than SAS for example) whereas their long haul product isn't all that much, except for when it comes to the cheap tickets.

SAS has PTVs in all seats, in all classes on all their long haul aircraft. Also, they are currently refitting all their aircraft with AVOD PTVs (Video on Demand), so that you can choose when the movie will start/end etc.
On the other hand, I don't even think Finnair has PTVs in their MD-11 aircraft, only in their A340 aircraft. Although, I'm not entirely sure of this as I have never flown on AY.

Also don't be putting words in my mouth.
I have never said that Finnair is a "low cost airline" or an LCC - I wrote that Finnair is a great low cost alternative if you want to fly between Northern Europe and Asia, and that's exactly what it is. A great low cost alternative.

Also don't be putting words in my mouth.
I have never said that Finnair is a "low cost airline" or an LCC - I wrote that Finnair is a great low cost alternative if you want to fly between Northern Europe and Asia, and that's exactly what it is. A great low cost alternative.

I agree with this statement. Also I did not spot any LCDs in the backseats when flying back and forth between Europe and Asia with Finnair. Would this keep me from flying with them again? No not as long as their prices are as competitive as they are.

KLM seems very cheap currently and with flights directly to Chengdu they offer an advantage compared to others. I would like to ask if people have any experiences flying with them? (yes I know they are not S&B)

KLM seems very cheap currently and with flights directly to Chengdu they offer an advantage compared to others. I would like to ask if people have any experiences flying with them? (yes I know they are not S&B)

I work at a callcenter, and one of the things we deal with is travel insurance. KLM seems to be the company that loses most bags by far. I strongly recommend handluggage only if you're going thru Schipol.

I havent flown with KLM personally, but i used to work for Air France, and my impression is that KLM's standards are slightly better (i.e. average european standard, and not even close to asian)

Cafo,
I did PVG-AMS-CPH-AMS-PVG this Christmas with KLM, and I can say that it was a pleasant experience. Similar to what I've experienced on the other larger European carriers such as Air France, BA or SAS.
Although, KLM does not have PTVs in their B747s flying to Asia.

SAS is of course the preferred carrier if you're based in the Öresund area considering the direct flights as well as good in-flight service and entertainment.

:)

OK thanks for the info guys. I usually find SAS to be quite a tad more expensive than the other carriers and being able to fly to Chengdu with KLM is interesting if one wants to go to say Tibet/Western China.

i'm not so sure about SAS. IMO their prices are way too high when you consider how mediocre their service is.

According to flygtorget.se, Qatar Airways will start the route Stockholm Arlanda-Doha later this year.

Source: http://www.flygtorget.se/nyheter/nyhetsdetaljer.asp?ID=4786

95% true that they'll start flying to Arn, but you never know with qatar...



Will fly to SF with KLM in about 3 weeks. Probably with a MD-11 (wow!). Hope they're good :)

SAS increases traffic to China. Beijing is the SAS gateway to China

As part of SAS's new China strategy, the aim of which is to rationalize air
traffic and become better at meeting customer needs through such activities as
expanding accessibility to the Chinese market, SAS has chosen to focus on
Beijing from several locations in Scandinavia.

SAS has an extensive route network between Scandinavia and China. SAS will
operate ten flights a week to Beijing Airport and from September 2007 traffic
will be strengthened with additional departures from both Stockholm and
Copenhagen. With Beijing's geographical location, the new airport terminal that
will be completed later in 2007, and SAS extended cooperation with Air China,
Beijing will be an excellent point for transfer. From March 25, 2007, it will be
possible to fly nonstop to China from Stockholm with the launch of the sought
after Stockholm-Beijing direct route.

"Beijing governs much of China's economic and industrial development. We see
that many of our customers often prefer Beijing as their gateway to China. We
want to open all of Scandinavia to China and our future vision is that Beijing
will become SAS's gateway to China, regardless of whether customers fly from
Stockholm, Oslo or Copenhagen and regardless of their final destination," says
Lars Lindgren, CEO Scandinavian Airlines International.

SAS has noted increased demand for connections to Shanghai that are not routed
via Pudong International Airport. The most sought-after destination among SAS
customers today is currently Shanghai's domestic airport. With the aim of
meeting these demands and appealing to a broader market in Scandinavia, SAS has
decided to reorganize its traffic to China and will discontinue flights to
Shanghai's Pudong International Airport from April 8. Instead, SAS can offer
excellent connections to the domestic airport Hong Qiao Airport in Shanghai and
to a range of other important points in China.

"Through our close partnership with Air China, we can offer travelers wishing to
connect to other destinations a unique network of direct flights throughout
China. In addition, this partnership means that customers earn Euro Bonus
points, enjoy a smoother check-in and the availability of connecting flights
that meet their specific needs," says Lars Lindgren, CEO Scandinavian Airlines
International.

SAS will continue operation of the sales office in Shanghai.


Scandinavian Airlines International

This hasn't been mentioned yet I suppose.

Press Release
24 Jan 2007
Finnair launches daily flights to Osaka

Finnair will begin flying between Helsinki and Osaka, Japan daily from the end of May. Finnair's Helsinki-Nagoya return flights will also increase by one when frequencies are upped to four times a week from mid-June.

"Thanks to the additional frequencies, Finnair becomes the third largest western airline operating between Europe and Japan. Next summer Finnair will have two daily flights to Japan, when the current number of weekly flights goes up from 11 to 15 weekly operations," says Finnair VP Network Strategies and Management Petteri Kostermaa.

The airline doubled its Tokyo flights from two to four a week already last December. Finnair is the only airline in northern Europe with routes to all three most important Japanese cities: Tokyo, Osaka and Nagoya.

Finnair's long-haul fleet is growing as two new wide-bodied Airbus A340s enter traffic towards the end of spring. Tokyo and Nagoya routes will be operated with the large Airbuses, Boeing MD-11s are used on flights to Osaka.

Finnair Plc
Communications
24.1.2007

Rygge Airport Opens

Rygge Airport, a military airport outside Moss, southeast of Oslo will open for civilian traffic this fall. The opening of this airport for civilian traffic have been eagerly anticipated, as it is just as close to Oslo as OSL, in fact, it might actually take a few minutes less to get there by car. Torp Airport are probably shaking in fear, as this looks to be an ideal airport for low-fare airlines.

The first service will be a charter flight to Grand Canaria operated by SAS Subsidiary Spanair.



This means that Oslo now has 3 international airports in its vicinity.

Ringil, I am jealous! :bash:

From my experiences, KLM is a great carrier.

Another 747F to Arlanda?

http://www.flygtorget.se/nyheter/nyhetsdetaljer.asp?ID=4793

Another 747F to Arlanda?

http://www.flygtorget.se/nyheter/nyhetsdetaljer.asp?ID=4793

great news, let's hope it comes true :) and i see you're a G-kraft forumer ;)

http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/3872/1150375df7.jpg

Wizzair starts two new lines from Malmö Airport - Katowice and Gdansk.

07-02-01 KL. 11:39
Mer trafik från Malmö Airport

Flygbolaget Wizz Air ökar utbudet av Polenlinjer från och till Malmö Airport.


Wizz Air har sedan tidigare Malmö-trafik till Warszawa, som startade 2004, och den 14 juli i år börjar bolaget flyga till Katowice och Gdansk med vardera tre gånger per vecka.

"Polen är ett land med nästan 40 miljoner invånare där de utländska investeringarna ökat kraftigt de senaste åren. Vi är glada över att öppna ytterligare destinationer till Polen som den vackra kuststaden Gdansk och till Katowice, södra Polens ´huvudstad´. Vi är övertygade om att dessa två regioner kommer att bli populära destinationer för både privat- och affärsresenärer." Det säger Natasa Kázmér, informationsdirektör på Wizz Air. (NFÖ)

SAS launches new route from Stockholm. From the end of October, SAS will also operate Stockholm-Bangkok.

Both business and leisure travelers are showing widespread interest in Bangkok.
Therefore, Scandinavian Airlines (SAS) will launch a new route from Stockholm to Bangkok at the end of October 2007. This route will be operated three times a week in both directions in addition to the already existing service between Copenhagen and Bangkok.

Demand for convenient connections to/from Thailand has increased in recent years. Peak demand to Bangkok is seen in the winter period of October to March.

"Bangkok is one of Asia's most important cities and a highly attractive destination for business travel and also for leisure travelers. Additional frequencies to Bangkok has been sought after by our customers and we are really pleased to meet this request" says Lars Sandahl, Chief Commercial Officer, Scandinavian Airlines International.

The launch of this route is part of SAS's new strategy which, using a dynamic traffic program, makes it possible to offer customers more flexible and individual solutions. The route between Stockholm and Bangkok will lead to quicker and more convenient connections for both the Swedish and the Norwegian markets, since the departure schedule has been specially adapted also for connections to and from Oslo.
SAS will continue to operate Copenhagen to Bangkok with the usual high frequency.

SAS has had a partnership with Thai Airways for many years. Thai Airways flies from Bangkok to many key destinations within Thailand, Southeast Asia and Australia. Based on this partnership, SAS offers the Scandinavian market excellent connections to numerous destinations in Thailand, Singapore and South-East Asia.

This means that with only one stop, both business travelers and tourists can easily reach their destination. Passengers need only check in once for their entire journey since baggage is checked in to the final destination. SAS Euro Bonus members will be able to make use of the usual Star Alliance benefits, including the ability to earn and use Euro Bonus points on both airlines, lounge
access, etc.

Customers to Bangkok will be offered the very highest level of comfort. The route will be operated using an Airbus 340, with all Business Class seats equipped with SAS's comfortable Business Sleepers. SAS has also introduced a number of new features in its two other classes, Economy Extra and Economy, to improve the flight experience for all intercontinental customers.

not surprised :)

Finnair återkommer med linjen Stockholm-Boston i sommar, och utökar trafiken från två avgångar i veckan till tre.

Under perioden 5 juni till 4 september flyger Finnair sträckan tre gånger i veckan nonstop med Boeing 757, som har enbart ekonomiklass ombord, med plats för 227 resenärer. Flygtiden blir åtta timmar och 25 minuter vilket är den snabbaste förbindelsen till Boston från norra Europa.

- Stockholm har ett bra geografiskt läge för direkta resor mot både USA och Asien. Den som reser direkt från Stockholm sparar ofta flera timmar, säger Niclas Härenstam, presschef LFV Stockholm-Arlanda Airport.

För passagerare som önskar flyga vidare från Boston inom USA, täcker Finnairs partner American Airlines, världens största flygbolag, samtliga ledande amerikanska städer från Boston Logan Airport. Avgångarna från Stockholm är tisdagar, torsdagar och söndagar på sen eftermiddag med retur samma dagar från Boston sen kväll.

this means that Arn got US direct routes to NYC, Boston, Philladelphia-Orlando and Chicago this summer

I'm actually a bit surprised since THAI already has service ARN-BKK, and the low amount of business traffic between the two cities. Pretty much all travellers between Scandinavia and Thailand are leisure travellers going on vacation, and hence buys the cheapest tickets possible.
THAI operates their 747s to ARN and CPH with mostly economy class seats and not many business class seats at all (and no First Class whatsoever).

Well, good news for ARN! :okay:

and so its official. Jade Cargo starts the new route Stockholm-Shenzhen, the first of Mars :cheers: The cargo section on Arlanda has totally exploded, with 5 new cargo airlines in 5-6 months :cheers:

That's just awesome! ARN owns at the moment! :D

That's just awesome! ARN owns at the moment! :D

have to compensate the loss of the second place to Gardemoen somehow, ;)

Expanding Trondheim Airport, Værnes

Trondheim Airport Værnes is one of the fastest growing airports in Scandinavia, and has been so for the last ten years. But the airport area is running small compared to the number of passangers, 3.2 million in 2006, an increase by 8% from 2005. By 2015 the airport will have a brand new and large terminal building, longer runaways, parking buildings and new hotels around the current hotel and shopping malls at Hell.

Helsinki-Vantaa Airport: January 2007

Passengers: 933 241, change +8,2%

Domestic passengers: 241 967, change +3,4%
International passengers: 691 274, change +9,9%

Passengers all Norwegian airports in January: 2 758 611(+11%)

Some airports(can't include all here, there are around 55 airports with passenger-traffic):
Oslo Gardermoen: 1 259 249(+9.6%)
Stavanger: 240 293(+15.6%)
Bergen: 306 597 (+11.8%)
Trondheim: 242 661 (+12.1%)
Bodø: 96 241 (+11.0%)
Tromsø: 111 745 (+10.4%)
Kristiansand: 58 719 (+15.3%)
Haugesund: 39 627(+28.9%)
Ålesund: 50 290(+6.4%)
.
.

Biggest increase since last january in %:D
Narvik: 2 772 (+122%)
Skien: 2 841 (+61.6%)
Hammerfest: 10 072 (+50%)
Honningsvåg: 758 (+44%)
Vardø: 1 071 (+34%)
Mosjøen: 4 593(+30%)

http://www.cph.dk/NR/rdonlyres/005E80D4-FD9B-46A0-B355-10F057CAA31C/0/airlinesroom.jpg
http://www.cph.dk/CPH/DK/OmCPH/Trafikstatistik/

CPH January: 1.464.663 (+7,6%).

CPH.dk also has a new section for new routes and increased frequency on existing routes at http://www.cph.dk/CPH/DK/B2B/Flyselskaber/Nye+Flyselskaber/Nye+ruter+og+frekvenser/

Nye ruter og frekvenser
1. juni 2007: Iceland Express åbner rute til Egilsstadir

- Flytype: MD90
- Frekvens: 2 ugentlige afgange
- Sæson: Ruten beflyves frem til 31. august 2007
1. juni 2007: Iceland Express åbner rute til Akureyri

- Flytype: MD90
- Frekvens: 2 ugentlige afgange
- Sæson: Ruten beflyves frem til 31. august 2007
20. maj 2007: SAS øger frekvensen på New York

- Flytype: Airbus A340
- Frekvens: Øges med 4 ugentlige aftenafgange
- Sæson: Ruten beflyves frem til 31. august 2007
15. maj 2007: Sterling åbner rute til Edinburgh

- Flytype: Boeing 737-500
- Frekvens: 2 ugentlige afgange
- Sæson: Ruten beflyves frem til 7. september
14. maj 2007: Sterling åbner rute til Biarritz

- Flytype: Boeing 737-500
- Frekvens: 2 ugentlige afgange
7. maj 2007: Sas åbner rute til Kangerlussuaq (Søndre Strømfjord)

- Flytype: Airbus 319
- Frekvens: 2 ugentlige afgange i maj - øges derefter til 3 ugentlige afgange
- Sæson: Ruten beflyves frem til 30. september 2007
30. marts 2007: Air Berlin åbner rute til Mallorca

- Flytype: Boeing 737-800
- Frekvens: 1 daglig flyvning
26. marts 2007: Bmi åbner rute til Leeds

- Flytype: Embraer ERJ-145
- Frekvens: 1 daglig afgang
26. marts 2007: Sterling øger frekvensen på Stockholm og indgår samtidig code-share med FlyNordic

- Flytype: Boeing 737-500 og -700
- Frekvens: Fra 1 ugentlig til 11 ugentlige
25. marts 2007: Cimber Air åbner rute til Newcastle

- Flytype: CRJ Regional Jet
- Frekvens: 1 daglig afgang
25. marts 2007: SkyEurope åbner rute til Prag

- Flytype: Boeing 737-700
- Frekvens: 5 ugentlige afgange
25. marts 2007: Sterling åbner rute til Burgas

- Flytype: Boeing 737-800
- Frekvens: 1 ugentlig afgang
25. marts 2007: Sterling åbner rute til Split

- Flytype: Boeing 737-500
- Frekvens: 1 ugentlig afgang
25. marts 2007: SAS åbner rute til Pristina

- Flytype: MD87
- Frekvens: 1 ugentlig afgang
- Sæson: Beflyves frem til 27. oktober 2007
25. marts 2007: SAS øger frekvensen på Bruxelles

- Flytype: CRJ - på den ekstra frekvens
- Frekvens: Øges fra 5 til 6 daglige afgange
25. marts 2007: SAS øger frekvensen på Kristianssand

- Flytype: CRJ på den ekstra afgang
- Frekvens: Fra 3 til 4 daglige afgange
25. marts 2007: SAS øger frekvensen på Geneve

- Flytype: CRJ - på den ekstra frekvens
- Frekvens: Øges fra 2 til 3 daglige afgange
25. marts 2007: SAS øger frekvensen på London City

- Flytype: Q400 på den ekstra afgang
- Frekvens: Fra 2 til 3 daglige afgange
25. marts 2007: SAS øger frekvensen på Aberdeen

- Flytype: CRJ - på den ekstra frekvens
- Frekvens: Øges fra 1 til 2 daglige afgange
25. marts 2007: SAS øger kapaciteten på Luxembourg

- Flytype: Q400
- Kapacitet: Kapacitetsøgning med 50% på eftermiddagsafgangen
25. marts 2007: Malev øger frekvensen på Budapest

- Flytype: CRJ - på den øgede frekvens
- Frekvens: Øges fra 2 til 3 daglige afgange
- Sæson: Beflyves frem til den 28. oktober 2007
1. marts 2007: Continental øger frekvensen på New York

- Flytype: Boeing 757
- Frekvens: Øges fra 5 til 7 ugentlige afgange
1. marts 2007: Delta Air Lines øger frekvensen på Atlanta

- Flytype: Boeing 767
- Frekvens: Øges fra 5 til 7 ugentlige afgange
7. januar 2007: China Cargo Airlines åbner all-cargo rute fra Asien

- Flytype: MD11F
- Frekvens: 3 ugentlige afgange

January 2007

Stockholm-Arlanda 1 255 812 +1%
Göteborg-Landvetter 310 449 +6%

Total Sweden 2 136 900 +1%
( I guess Its just public airports;Source:www. lfv.se)

In total Sweden I guess It missing for instance Stockholm- Skavsta and Göteborg-city

Januar 2007

Oslo lufthavn Gardermoen 1.263.413 + 9,5%

Could anyone explain me how come Oslo Gardermoen has more passengers than Stockholm Arlanda?

Well... What can be said? We love to fly!:nuts:
More seriously the largest of the difference is in national flights, because our country is so wide and lacks a functioning land-based transportation-system between the largest cities. It's so much easier to fly!

Oslo (2006):
National: 8,4 millions
International: 9,3 millions

Stockholm (2006):
National: 5,7 millions
International: 11,4 millions

I read on standby.dk today that SAS is seriously considering opening up from Copenhagen to Dubai. If that wont be the case, they will fly from Copenhagen to an undisclosed location.

Good for SAS. Good for Copenhagen.

According to another article on the same site, Emirates will still try to start flying from Copenhagen if they can find an aircraft.

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I'm getting tired of the whole Emirates thing in Copenhagen. Just start the route already!

Good news about SAS/CPH though. Especially since they scrapped the Shanghai route.

Renders of the new airport at Rygge, just 60km south of Oslo. Its capacity will be about 2mill passangers/year. Its IATA code will be RYG. Its a great place for an airport, located just next to the E6.

http://gfx.dagbladet.no/pub/artikkel/4/49/493/493431/rygge_sak858_1172567684.jpg

http://gfx.dagbladet.no/pub/artikkel/4/49/493/493431/rygge_sak1_1172567714.jpg

http://gfx.dagbladet.no/pub/artikkel/4/49/493/493431/rygge_sak2_1172567714.jpg


You can see a small video here:
http://www.dagbladet.no/dinside/2007/02/27/493431.html

Looks like a nice little airport.

By the way, Star Tour (I think) will start flying a Boeing 747 to Bangkok and Phuket a few times a week.

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There's already a Corsair 747 operating between CPH and HKT this winter (from Stockholm and Helsinki as well by the way, I think). Maybe this is the one you think of, TOCO?

I'm getting tired of the whole Emirates thing in Copenhagen. Just start the route already!


They would, if they had any free aircrafts, but because of the delay of the A380, they dont. As far as I recall, I read a small article in the JP newspaper, that they expect to open it sometime in 2008.

STOCKHOLM (AP) — Swedish budget airline FlyMe halted operations with immediate effect and will file for bankruptcy, the company said Friday — a move affecting thousands of passengers.

FlyMe Sweden AB had advised some 2,500 passengers, scheduled to fly with the airline Friday, about the bankruptcy with mobile phone text messages overnight.

The Goteborg, Sweden-based airline started operations in 2004 and operated a service from three Swedish cities to about a dozen European destinations. Rest of the article (http://www.usatoday.com/travel/flights/2007-03-02-swedens-flyme-stops-flying_x.htm).

* * *

This is unfortunate news that will affect many passengers and employees of the bankrupt company. Turns out FlyMe's failed attempt to merge with flyLAL (Lithuanian Airlines) in 2006 was a blessing in disguise for the Lithuanian carrier.

SAS will start flying to Dubai from CPH on October 31st 2007 three times a week.

This is especially great news since it shows that SAS still believes in CPH as their primary hub.

CPH had 380.000 tons of freight in 2006. What are the numbers for the other airports in the region?

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CPH had 380.000 tons of freight in 2006. What are the numbers for the other airports in the region?

a lot less. Neither GOT nor ARN did get above 60.000 tons


Anyway time to welcome another 747 Cargo to Arn. Welcome Jade Cargo! :hi:

Staff...I missed your post!

It could be that you are correct regarding Corsair...;-)

http://www.finnairgroup.com/group/group_11_1_1.html?&Id=hex_200703080000183622.html

Finnair will replace its current Boeing MD-11 fleet with Airbus A340 and A330
wide-bodied aircraft by the year 2010. In addition to the A340s already on
order, Finnair will acquire and take delivery of seven Airbus wide-bodied
aircraft between now and 2010. In addition, the company can use the four
options acquired in 2005. According to the new agreement, both the orders and
the options can flexibly be confirmed for either A340 or A330 models based on
the need. The pro-gramme can be used to increase Finnairs long-haul fleet to
15 air-craft by the end of 2010.
The acquisition programme is flexible from Finnairs point of view both in
terms of the type and number of aircraft. We can optimise our fleet on the
basis of demand growth. We can ensure our Asian growth with competitive
aircraft, says President and CEO Jukka Hienonen.

Both four-engine A340s and twin-engine A330s have approximately 270 seats, but
with full cargo load the A340 has a longer range.
The acquisition price and operating costs of the A330 aircraft are more
affordable than that of its big brother. We can use it economi-cally for
instance on our Indian routes or our longer Asian routes which do not have
cargo demand that require the use of an A340, Hie-nonen explains.

From 2014 onwards Finnair will also take delivery of the new technol-ogy
A350XWBs. In December 2005 Finnair ordered nine new Airbus wide-bodied aircraft
with options for four more. Now a further two A350s have been ordered, bringing
the maximum total number of these aircraft to 15. All the A350s will be fitted
with Rolls-Royce Trent XWB en-gines.

After Finnairs original order, Airbus further optimized the design of the A350
into the new A350XWB.

The initial four A340 aircraft Finnair ordered will be delivered in 2007-08.
The shift in the production timetable of the A350 has been taken into
consideration in the terms of Finnairs wide-body aircraft acquisitions
programme. The total value of the confirmed aircraft or-ders is approximately
two billion euros.

The current orders speed up Finnairs fleet renewal. The Boeing MD-11s in
operation will be retired from Finnairs fleet in 2008-10. After this, the
airlines long-haul fleet will consist only of A340 and A330 aircraft which
unifies the long-haul fleet with the European fleet of A320 family aircraft.
The renewal significantly improves our profitability and eco-efficiency.
Operating modern aircraft is the best environmental work an airline can do,
Hienonen says.

Finnair Plc
Communications
8.3.2007

http://www.finnairgroup.com/group/group_11_2_1.html?&Id=1172823264.html

Silver Medal for Finnair in Japanese Survey

Finnair has won a prestigious silver in a significant Japanese customer survey. Finnair was rated the second most popular airline in Japan in a customer survey carried out by the travel guide series Chikyu no Arukikatan.

Nearly 3,000 readers responded to the guide's online questionnaire in 2006. Airline service was compared in several different categories, and Finnair came second overall for scheduled airlines operating between Japan and Europe. Finnair topped the categories for convenience (destinations, flights, timetables) and service quality. The friendliness of Finnair's Japanese and Finnish cabin crew was especially appreciated. Finnair also took third place for safety and reliability.

The results represent an improvement on last year's results for the same survey, when Finnair was fourth overall, although this is the second consecutive year that first place was achieved in the convenience category. Last year's survey placed Finnair second for service. This year, fifth place was earned in the category for in-flight food and drink quality.
The Japanese language Chikyu no Arukikatan website is at www.arukikata.com.

http://www.aci.aero/cda/aci/display/main/aci_content.jsp?zn=aci&cp=1-7-46^12875_9_2__
Airports Council International - World’s top customer service airports recognised - 12/03/2007
Incheon International Airport in South Korea once again gained top honours in the 2006 Airports Council International (ACI) Airport Service Quality Awards held overnight in Dubai. The awards recognise customer service efforts made by airports taking part in the ACI programme and are based on responses to a survey of passengers conducted throughout the year.

Best Airport in Europe
1) Zurich, Switzerland
2) Brussels, Belgium
3=) Helsinki, Finland
3=) Porto, Portugal
5) Munich, Germany

By Size of Airport
- Best Airport <5 Million Passangers
1) Halifax, Canada
2) Ottawa, Canada
3) Porto, Portugal
4) Malta
5) Sandefjord, Norway

- Best Airport <15 Million Passangers
1) Central Japan (NGO)
2) Adelaide, Australia
3=) Helsinki, Finland
3=) Christchurch, New Zealand
5) Abu Dhabi, UAE

Good job Sandefjord & Helsinki :okay:

Incheon as no. 1 is interesting. I always though HK and Singapore were battling it out at the top.

Copenhagen Airport did terribly last year. In another survey of European airports only it ended 8th.

Brussels as #2 :eek:! A lot must have happend in 5 years-time!

Februari visar ökning av resande från LFV:s flygplatser

Totalt under februari flög 2 176 100 passagerare från LFV:s flygplatser. Jämfört med förra årets siffror är det en ökning med en procent.

Fyra procent fler flög utrikes i februari, 1 109 100 passagerare. Två procent minus visar inrikessiffrorna, passagerarna uppgår till 1 067 000.

Vidare kan man se att Stockholm-Bromma flygplats ökar med 17 procent fler passagerare mot vad siffrorna visade i februari 2006. På plussidan ligger även Örnsköldsvik med åtta procents ökning. Kiruna, Skellefteå och Visby visar alla en ökning på sex procent.

På minussidan hittar man Jönköping med en minskning på 16 procent, Karlstad med en nergång på sju procent samt Åre/Östersund med fyra procent färre passagerare..

Landningar i februari innevarande år hade en minskning med fem procent jämfört med februari 2006.

Fler resenärer men färre antal start och landningar

Arlanda och Bromma uppvisar en ökning i antalet resenärer under februari 2007 med två procent jämfört med förra året.

De tio mest populära destinationerna i februari från Arlanda och Bromma var Göteborg, Malmö, Köpenhamn, Oslo, London, Helsingfors, Luleå, Umeå, Amsterdam och Frankfurt.

Under februari hade Amsterdam en resenärökning på 13 procent, medan Frankfurt ökade med nio procent och Las Palmas med 22 procent. Till Köpenhamn minskade antalet resenärer med 11 procent.

Stockholm-Arlanda Airport och Stockholm-Bromma Airport hade 1 400 061 resenärer som reste till eller från dessa flygplatser. 843 203 flög utrikes, vilket är på plussidan med tre procent jämfört med förra året. 556 858 flög inrikes under samma period, vilket är i nivå med förra årets siffror.

Landningar och starter på båda dessa flygplatser minskade med tre procent. Utrikesdelen visar minskning med totalt fyra procent, inrikesdelen minskade med två procent.

– Det innebär att flygningarna är mer välfyllda nu än för ett år sedan. Det är bra för flygbolagens ekonomi, men det är också en fördel för miljön, säger Niclas Härenstam, presschef LFV division Stockholm där de båda flygplatserna ingår.

– Antalet direktlinjer från Arlanda har blivit fler det senaste året, och på Bromma har nya aktörer tillkommit. Stockholms tillgänglighet har därmed ökat, och dessutom till förmånliga priser för resenärerna, säger Niclas Härenstam.

:)

http://www.aci.aero/cda/aci/display/main/aci_content.jsp?zn=aci&cp=1-7-46^12875_9_2__
Airports Council International - World’s top customer service airports recognised - 12/03/2007
Incheon International Airport in South Korea once again gained top honours in the 2006 Airports Council International (ACI) Airport Service Quality Awards held overnight in Dubai. The awards recognise customer service efforts made by airports taking part in the ACI programme and are based on responses to a survey of passengers conducted throughout the year.

Best Airport in Europe
1) Zurich, Switzerland
2) Brussels, Belgium
3=) Helsinki, Finland
3=) Porto, Portugal
5) Munich, Germany

By Size of Airport
- Best Airport <5 Million Passangers
1) Halifax, Canada
2) Ottawa, Canada
3) Porto, Portugal
4) Malta
5) Sandefjord, Norway

- Best Airport <15 Million Passangers
1) Central Japan (NGO)
2) Adelaide, Australia
3=) Helsinki, Finland
3=) Christchurch, New Zealand
5) Abu Dhabi, UAE

Good job Sandefjord & Helsinki :okay:

Helsinki airport seemed new and modern. But it is also small, and it's more easy to make a good airport if it's small. I don't think it was that good tho. You take a bus out to the plane, and they let you stand outside in 5 minutes in -10 C. And why can't you take a ½ litre bottle of water through the check in?

I understand why Nagoya (Tokyo) airport is top rated. I remember when i went to the toilet in it, and when i came out of it, a cleaning guy waited outside so he could clean it right after me ;).

http://www.finnairgroup.com/group/group_11_1_1.html?&Id=hex_200703080000183622.html

[B]Finnair will replace its current Boeing MD-11 fleet with Airbus A340 and A330


That sounds good because the MD's is really some old shit.

Incheon as no. 1 is interesting. I always though HK and Singapore were battling it out at the top.
Yea HK and Singapore is amazing. I love HK that you can take a train out to your gate, and Singapore is probably the best airport to sleep in:tongue2:


Copenhagen Airport did terribly last year. In another survey of European airports only it ended 8th.
I don't like CPH airport that much. It's not bad, but sometimes you just have to walk so much.

Brussels as #2 :eek:! A lot must have happend in 5 years-time!

Well, yeah. The old part of the airport is now closed, and this is the new one:

http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/3036/bru4mz3.jpg
http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/2811/bru3ou5.jpg
http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/5416/bru2tv7.jpg
http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/5954/bru1xb7.jpg
http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/1584/bru5hr2.jpg

Had a bad experience in the old airport? ;)

^^indeed :cheers:

Yea HK and Singapore is amazing. I love HK that you can take a train out to your gate, and Singapore is probably the best airport to sleep in:tongue2:


I don't like CPH airport that much. It's not bad, but sometimes you just have to walk so much.

I agree. CPH is badly built for the current traffic volumes. I hate walking all over the place. HK is insanely good. Never been to Singapore but in Asia I also found Osaka to be quite good. I don't get it why Beijing is highly ranked instead.

Edit: Talking about old airports and their replacements. Anyone got stories about Bangkok?

I have had nothing but good experiences at Beijing Capital Airport.

Singapore and HKG are ridiculously good as well.
Shanghai Pudong is not very impressive though.

You seem to forget that the only reason Copenhagen did so "poor" this year is because of all the line-ups during the summer.

I'll bet you that it will be in top 3 next year again...

SAS has annouced that they will start operations to Dubai from Copenhagen this autumn, three times a week with an Airbus A340.

Source:
http://cph.dk/CPH/UK/Newsroom/News/2007/Direct++to+Dubai.htm

Really nice news, and about time I'd say!

You seem to forget that the only reason Copenhagen did so "poor" this year is because of all the line-ups during the summer.

I'll bet you that it will be in top 3 next year again...

I still think it is also a capacity problem. The last few times I've been there I've had to walk all over the place and no I don't fly with SAS which get preferential treatment in that regard.

copied from a thread on the G-kraft forum, in Swedish only.

I dagens tidningar här i Malaysia står det skrivet att deputy turist ministern avser be MAS att utöka frekvenstätheten mellan ARN och KUL.
Tydligen vill han åt de över 400.000 svenska turisterna som besökte Thailand förra året och anser att de i runda slängar 36.000 svenskar som besökte Malaysia kan öka om man bara har fler flygstolar mellan de båda länderna.

Han meddelar att det största problemet för MAS är att "Our problem is always not enough seats," Detta är främsta hindret til att man inte får fler svenska turister.

Han har satt som mål att det skall vara 50.000 svenska turister här iår och avser vidtala de stora touroperatörerna om att erbjuda fler paketresor till Malaysia.

Exile numer boendes och arbetandes i Kota Kinabalu är inte säker på om han vil ha hit svensk massturism, sitter man i sin egen dröm klarar man sig bra utan massturismen och den prisökning den för med sig. Men Malaysia har så oerhört mycket att erbjuda att det torde bara vara en tidsfråga inan den svenska allmänheten upptäcker att thailand inte är det enda landet att besöka i Asien.
Dessutom, prostitutionsfritt torde ju locka barnfamiljerna...

You basically have to do a lot of walking in any major airport around Europe and the world (London Heathrow, Paris de Gaulle, Frankfurt). Also in Singapore Changhi which has been rated as the best airport for many years one has to do a lot of walking.

I even felt that I walked quite a bit when I was in Hong Kong.

And I would definately rahter walk than waiting on stupid buses to take me between the terminals.

And the walking distances have been the same in CPH for the last many years, so I really don't think that that has got anything to do with the 2006 ranking.

;-)

In August, SAS will start a new route from OSL to London City Airport. 2 times a day and 1 flight on sunday :)

Great. Finally there are flights between all the Scandinavian capitals and London City.

Scandinavian Airlines inaugurated its Stockholm-Beijing air route as recently as March 25, last Sunday. But it is already clear that the service will expand from four to five departures a week this autumn.

More and more Swedish companies are finding their way to China. Today a total of some 400 Swedish companies have a presence in the world’s most populous country, and the number of travelers to and from Sweden is increasing rapidly.

Last Sunday, SAS inaugurated its Stockholm-Beijing route in the presence of Stockholm County Governor Per Unckel and the Chinese ambassador to Sweden, Lu Fengding. The route is served by four departures a week on SAS’ flagship aircraft, the Airbus 340 seating 245 passengers. Those in Business Class can enjoy SAS’ new Business Sleeper seats. The maiden flight to Beijing had barely taken off before SAS decided to expand the service to five times a week this autumn.

“SAS’ investment in more long-haul traffic from Stockholm is very welcome. Non-stop flights save time and money and they are better for the environment. Not least, they make Stockholm more accessible and thus more attractive to the rest of the world,” says Niclas Härenstam, Manager Press Relations, LFV Stockholm-Arlanda Airport.

This autumn, SAS is also starting service on the Stockholm-Bangkok route. Air China also flies the Stockholm-Beijing route, with four departures a week.

LFV 3/29/2007

Swedish airports in March

Stockholm-Arlanda 1,548,559 +3%
Göteborg-Landvetter 353,647 +2%
Stockholm-Bromma 164 391 +12%
Malmö 159 065 +2%

Cph airport

March 1.786.135
Changes in % from last March 7,0
Total so far 4.675.278
Total changes in % 4,7

Brian Petersen New CEO of Copenhagen Airports

COPENHAGEN, Denmark - Brian Petersen has been appointed new President and CEO of Copenhagen Airports A/S.

Petersen’s selection results from his proven international experience in creating and managing growth, his well developed leadership skills and, importantly, his ability to understand customer needs and deliver new ideas to improve the customer experience.

"By agreement with the Supervisory Board of Copenhagen Airports A/S, executive search firm Egon Zehnder International began the search for a successor to Niels Boserup in November last year. The search process proceeded as planned, and I am pleased to announce that Brian Petersen has accepted the job. I am certain we have found the right person to head Copenhagen Airport in the coming years, aiming for an increase in passenger numbers from 20 to 30 million per year and continuing to develop the airport’s position as Scandinavia’s most important hub," said Henrik Gurtler, chairman.

Petersen comes from a position as general manager with the multinational consumer goods group Procter & Gamble. It is a dedicated focus on customers that has led to excellent business results during his 19 years with Procter & Gamble. During his career, he has lived and worked in the UK, Sweden, Germany, Morocco and Switzerland, and he currently lives in China.


Petersen holds an MBA from the John E. Anderson Graduate School of Management at UCLA, along with a degree from the Copenhagen Business School. Petersen will relocate to Denmark to take up his new position as President and CEO of Copenhagen Airports.

"I have enjoyed travelling through Copenhagen Airport over the years because of the airport’s atmosphere and passenger friendliness. It is my experience that long-term growth and good results can be achieved if the business develops by catering to customer needs. I look forward to working with the airlines to generate growth and good facilities for passengers. Copenhagen Airport aims to be the largest airport in Scandinavia, the most efficient airport in Europe and among the best airports in the world, and this vision has my full support. During my first few weeks, I will be going around and talking with all the stakeholders at the airport so that I can learn from the highly competent people who contribute to the airport’s development," said Petersen.

New terminal on OSL Gardermoen to be finished in 2012, as this article states:

OSL has appointed a new Project Director for Terminal 2

The planning of a new passenger terminal (Terminal 2) is under way. OSL has appointed Kjell-Arne Sakshaug to manage the project, which is expected to take two years.
15.03.2007

Sakshaug has been employed by Oslo Airport since 1991 as Head of Department and Director with responsibilities such as planning, project management, relocation and most recently airport development. He is educated as a civil engineer from Arizona in 1985 and possesses other relevant aviation experience from the Institute of Transport Economics, Fjellanger Widerøe AS and the Civil Aviation Authority.

The huge growth in the number of airline passengers in recent years has sparked the need for a new passenger terminal. Completion of the new terminal is scheduled for 2012 following two years of planning and three years of construction.

Helsinki-Vantaa Airport
passengers this year so far...

March
1 157 233 +8,0%

January-March
3 054 713 +8,6%

OSL Gardermoen Airport

Passengernumbers for March: 1.585.049 (+9,7%)
Passengers in the whole quarter: 4.126.371 (+9,1%)

Gardermoen keeps beating Arlanda in pax figures continiously. Impressive.

In size which scandinavian airport is the largest? Is it CPH then Arlanda?

If you mean the area of the airport, I think Arlanda is the largest. At least it seems that way.

In terms of passengers, Gardermoen recently surpassed Arlanda, so now it's:
1. Copenhagen-Kastrup
2. Oslo-Gardermoen
3. Stockholm-Arlanda

Staff: It is very impressive - are there really that many people who want to visit Norway? ;-)

Seriously, Arlanda is larger than CPH?! That's a suprise!

Staff: It is very impressive - are there really that many people who want to visit Norway? ;-)

No, but air-traffic is a more vital part of our infrastructure, as a result of difficult geography and bad roads and trainlines. Oslo-Bergen is, iirc, Europe's 6'th most trafficated route.

North Star77: It was meant as a joke ;-) Norway is actually beautiful.

Now that you mention it, how much of the traffic to Gardemoen is domestic?

Regards,

P

Roughly half of the traffic is domestic.

jan-march this year:
domestic: 2 065 572
international: 2 060 826

OK thanks.

Has the increase primarily been on the domestic routes or on the international?

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Roughly half of the traffic is domestic.

jan-march this year:
domestic: 2 065 572
international: 2 060 826

But the growth is highest in the international traffic. 10,8 % vs 7,5 % in March

If you mean the area of the airport, I think Arlanda is the largest. At least it seems that way.

Yeah Arlanda is the largest airport in size (we like it big) and it just keeps on getting bigger and bigger.

How practical!:nuts:

Size doesn't really matter in that regard!

:-)

Size doesn't really matter in that regard!

:-)

Who says it does? :) Size does matter when we're talking cargo though ;)

But isn't CPH handling way more cargo than ARN anyway? ;)

But isn't CPH handling way more cargo than ARN anyway? ;)

Yes, compared to the other three bigger Swedish airports Cph is handling hell a lot more cargo than all three airports combined (still it doesn't look like it gets any extra exotic airlines) Arlandas cargo section has never been very big (thx to Göteborg Harbour & Landvetter) but as you may know things have changed quite a lot in recent months. To cover the expanding cargo market a new cargo terminal is being built.

^^
China Cargo Airlines and Air China Cargo has recently started routes to/from/via CPH. That's not what I would call "doesn't look like it gets any extra exotic airlines". But yeah, ARN has seen more new routes from Asian cargo carriers recently - probably because that was slim to nothing in that regard some time ago.

^^
China Cargo Airlines and Air China Cargo has recently started routes to/from/via CPH. That's not what I would call "doesn't look like it gets any extra exotic airlines".

Since CPH is handling such a huge amount of cargo, more than Sturup, Landvetter and Arlanda put together I'd still call that "close to nothing". :)

Norwegian buys FlyNordic!

Norwegian buys all the shares of Swedish FlyNordic from Finnair. Norwegian will after this become the biggest low-fare airline in the Nordics. Norwegian flew 5.1 million passengers in 2006, while FlyNordic flew 1.2 millions.

http://www.na24.no/naeringsliv/article985913.ece

Norwegian buys FlyNordic!

Norwegian buys all the shares of Swedish FlyNordic from Finnair. Norwegian will after this become the biggest low-fare airline in the Nordics. Norwegian flew 5.1 million passengers in 2006, while FlyNordic flew 1.2 millions.

http://www.na24.no/naeringsliv/article985913.ece

Finnair also becomes a shareholder of Norwegian (5% and maybe 10% in the future) and the idea is to get the airline to feed passengers to Finnair's asian traffic. Now Finnair doesn't have to fly everywhere in Scandinavia itself.

http://www.taloussanomat.fi/liikenne-ja-kuljetus/2007/04/24/Finnair+nivoo+Norjan+Aasian+liikenteeseen/20079929/160
(unfortunately only in Finnish)

http://www.di.se/Nyheter/?page=/Avdelningar/Artikel.aspx%3FArticleID%3D2007%5C04%5C26%5C230864%26words%3Dsas%26SectionID%3DEttan%26menusection%3DStartsidan%3BHuvudnyheter
SAS stoppar alla flyg från Kastrup
Den vilda strejken bland kabinpersonalen i SAS Danmark tvingar flygbolaget att ställa in SAS Danmarks samtliga avgångar från Kastrup även på torsdagen.

:ohno:

Hehe, we're used to it.

Just got back from Liberia today and I was so surprised to see an Antonov cargo plane at CPH.

Have any of you seen such an airplane at CPH before?

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Not in CPH, but i saw one in Arlanda last summer when i was going to France. :D

Just got back from Liberia today...


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Sorry, that made me laugh...You really travel to the oddest places TC...Are you part of the war trail against Taylor?

cphdude, unfortunately I cannot comment on what I did. All I can say is that Liberians are very friendly people and that it appears that the country is moving in the right direction. I will post some pictures soon in a new thread ;-).

To get back on topic that Antonov plane is enormous...

P

cphdude, unfortunately I cannot comment on what I did. All I can say is that Liberians are very friendly people and that it appears that the country is moving in the right direction. I will post some pictures soon in a new thread ;-).



P

Thas okay. And I am glad to hear that things are moving the the right direction somewhere....:)

SAS varsler fyringer i Danmark

SAS' nye koncernchef varsler danske fyringer efter strejker, der har skuffet ham meget. Ny strategiplan udskydes efter uro i Danmark.

Fyringer i Danmark. Det bliver SAS-ledelsens reaktion efter, at det danske kabinepersonale to gange i løbet af foråret har nedlagt arbejdet i protest mod forløbet af overenskomstforhandlingerne.

SAS' nye koncernchef Mats Jansson sagde torsdag i forbindelse med præsentationen af regnskabet for 1. kvartal, at han er meget skuffet over de danske kabinemedarbejdere. Derfor vil flyselskabet i løbet af de kommende tre til seks måneder omlægge produktionsapparatet og visse ruter, hvilket indebærer, at der fremover satses mere på SAS Sverige og SAS Norge, der har været langt mere stabile.


- Jeg ved ikke, hvor store reduktioner, der bliver tale om, men der vil blive tale om reduktioner i løbet af de næste tre til seks måneder. Situationen tvinger os til at gøre noget - vi er til for kunderne og ikke omvendt, sagde en tydeligt vred Mats Jansson på pressekonferencen ifølge RB-Børsen.

well done SAS :)

- Best Airport <15 Million Passangers
1) Central Japan (NGO)
2) Adelaide, Australia
3=) Helsinki, Finland
3=) Christchurch, New Zealand
5) Abu Dhabi, UAE



Just out of curiosity does Copenhagen fit in to the 5-15 million passenger gap? And what are the annual figures for Helsinki & Copenhagen respectively?

Christchurch international is getting a new integrated terminal, hotels, business and air-tech parks soon too - we have our eye on the number 1 spot ;)

Just out of curiosity does Copenhagen fit in to the 5-15 million passenger gap? And what are the annual figures for Helsinki & Copenhagen respectively?
Nope, it doesn't. :) Last year approximately 21 million passengers passed through the CPH facility. And HEL had 12,1 million passengers last year.


Christchurch international is getting a new integrated terminal, hotels, business and air-tech parks soon too - we have our eye on the number 1 spot
HEL is going to get some nice new things too in the future, so beware. ;)

CPH April 1.649.778 (-2.9%/48.436 - thanks SAS)

CPH YtD 6.325.056 (+2.7%)

Stockholm-Arlanda 1463806 +1%
Stockholm-Bromma 148430 +11%

Göteborg-Lanvetter 334563 -4%
Malmö 148 941 -7%

Crisis on the biggest Swedish airports?

Stockholm-Arlanda Total year acumulated 2007(Jan-april) 5532941 pax
Stockholm-Bromma 579235 pax
Göteborg-Lanvetter 1304283 pax

Stockholm-Arlanda 1463806 +1%
Stockholm-Bromma 148430 +11%

Göteborg-Lanvetter 334563 -4%
Malmö 148 941 -7%

Crisis on the biggest Swedish airports?

The decline is probably due to the low budget airlines who fly from the smaller airports. Göteborg City Airport (Säve) has gone from 0 passengers to 650.000 a year in just seven years. It would be interesting to see figures for the smaller airports too in these comparisons.

De danska SAS-anställda protesterar högljutt mot vd Mats Janssons planer på att flytta resurser från Köpenhamn till Stockholm och Oslo. "En ren bestraffning som drabbar oskyldiga", skriver de i ett gemensamt brev.

Den danska SAS-personalen ger samstämmigt vd Mats Jansson nobben.

Flygdirektören hade på onsdagen kallat facken från Danmark, Sverige och Norge till ett stormöte där de skulle informeras om omläggningen av rutter från Kastrup till Arlanda och Gardermoen, till följd av den danska kabinpersonalens vilda strejker.

Men danskarna stannade hemma.

"Inga fackliga företrädare gick dit", säger Nicolas Fischer, ordförande för det danska markpersonalfacket LFF, till di.se.

I ett skarpt formulerat brev skriver de danska flygfacken gemensamt att direktören startar krig mot personalen, när det bara är nya samtal som kan lösa upp alla knutar i den infekterade situationen.

"I stället för en dialog har du nu ordnat en straffaktion som straffar alla medarbetargrupper, även de som inte iscensatt avtalsstridiga arbetsnedläggelser", skriver de.

Flygfacken ifrågasätter också om SAS-ledningen ordentligt har utrett flyttens strategiska konsekvenser och om beslutet är ordenligt förankrat hos SAS Danmarks styrelse.

Sedan dess har facken inte hört ett knyst från koncernledningen.

Ingen information har gått ut till de anställda om detaljerna i ledningens ommöblering av de skandinaviska rutterna, enligt Nicolas Fischer.

"Här är det tyst som i graven", säger han.

SAS informationschef Bertil Ternert uppger att svenska och norska företrädare mötte Mats Jansson på onsdagen och meddelades att trafikflytten redan är beslutad. Det kommer att ta tre till sex månader innan den är fullt genomförd.

"Mats Jansson kommer att skicka en ny inbjudan och hoppas självklart att de kommer", säger Bertil Ternert om danskarnas frånvaro.

Betyder omläggningen personalminskningar för SAS Danmark?

"Det kommer det säkert att göra, men för stunden är det för tidigt att kommentera konsekvenserna för anställda med mera", säger Bertil Ternert.

interesting...

It is very interesting, and just what they deserve. Going on strikes all the time shouldn't pay off when doing it in such a childish way as the Danish SAS-employees do.

It's good that the feeder flights OSL-CPH and ARN-CPH are now going to be operated by SAS Norge (they changed their name, finally!) and SAS Sverige respectively.

In case someone misunderstand this though - flights that are operated from CPH to other destinations today are not going to be moved to OSL or ARN. Mats Jansson points out that CPH remains the SAS hub.
Although the feeder flights, that are currently operated by SAS Danmark, are instead going to be operated by SAS NO/SE.

They are spoiled brats.

It is VERY important that CPH remains the hub ;-)

Who really cares about the rest?
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Who really cares about the rest?
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People who live there?

People who live there?

no, that cant be it....

So now Braathens is history. Sad:ohno: Does anyone actually fly SAS anylonger?;)

Passengers all airports in Norway April:
domestic: 1 916 540 (+10.1%)
international: 1 005 099 (5.9%)
total: 2 921 639 (+8.6%)

Oslo Gardermoen: 1 447 985 (+9.9%)
Bergen: 356 675 (+4.5%)
Stavanger: 256 629 (+7.6%)
Trondheim: 250 912 (+7.7%)
Sandefjord(Oslo): 129 743(+22.8%)
Tromsø: 125 992 (+6.0%)
Bodø: 113 774 (+5.4%)

Jan-apr:
Oslo Gardermoen: 5 574 383 (9.3%)
Bergen: 1 445 704 (+8.7%)
Stavanger: 1 066 110 (+9.9%)
Trondheim: 1 039 266 (+10.7%)
Sandefjord: 463 494 (+18.7%)

OSL actually lower than ARL?:shocked:
(now reading the growth in percentage rate)
Yeah yeah. I guess Swedish airtraffic really "takes off" in April:nuts:

So now Braathens is history. Sad:ohno: Does anyone actually fly SAS anylonger?;)
38,6 million passengers flew with the SAS Group last year, which makes it the 4th largest airline in Europe in terms of passengers carried.
Finnair Group, as comparision, carried 8,5 million passengers year 2006.

SAS is also the 9th largest airline in the world when it comes to international passengers, as well as the 14th largest airline in the world when it comes to fleet size, ahead of large players such as British Airways and Japan Airlines.

So, to answer your question - Yes, people still fly SAS. Quite many people, actually. ;)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_airlines


The name change from SAS Braathens to SAS Norway is completely logical and I wonder why it hasn't been done before. Some people even thought that "SAS Braathens" was an individual airline, even though it has had the exact same status as SAS DK and SE.
I'm glad they finally changed.

Interesting that Norwegian is nr 23 on the list, and now is the leading lowprice company in our region..

38,6 million passengers flew with the SAS Group last year, which makes it the 4th largest airline in Europe in terms of passengers carried.
Finnair Group, as comparision, carried 8,5 million passengers year 2006.

SAS is also the 9th largest airline in the world when it comes to international passengers, as well as the 14th largest airline in the world when it comes to fleet size, ahead of large players such as British Airways and Japan Airlines
Then give us back our 747s!!! :rant:

if someone really does fly with SAS nowadays i really wonder why
such an crappy company.

Interesting that Norwegian is nr 23 on the list, and now is the leading lowprice company in our region..

I agree that it's interesting when the page wiki cite as resource, clearly states a different number:nuts: Now they're 21:okay:

^^
I really don't get that attitude.
SAS is a pretty good airline with great service (by "Western standards"), a modern fleet and two world class hub airports.

If you're pissed because you flew an intra-European segment and didn't get a meal because you bought a heavily discounted ticket - then sorry. You get what you pay for.
Don't expect better service on any other European (or American) airline.

So, to answer your question - Yes, people still fly SAS. Quite many people, actually.

I was just joking ofcourse:) But people are clearly unsatisfied with SAS for several reasons, and it is not the food. In the yearly customers satisfaction index (http://www.kundebarometer.com/index.php?content=nkbres2007&criteria=tilfredshet), SAS ranks on #170 out of 177. Norwegian is not super-great either, ranked on #54, but there are many things they do better.

The online ticket system is one of them. SAS's system is to be polite not very intuitive, and finding a "right" price for example is quite difficult, and the price is quite random, it can be very different from each time you try to order the same route at the same time. Most airliners do this so much better than SAS. The reason SAS sucks on this is because they have outsourced their online ticket system, wich is a big, big mistake. That makes it much more difficult to make the system better, it is getting better than it used to, but it takes too long time. And, after all, the ticket-system is THE most essential part of an airline-company. People(including me) nowadays give up if they can't order a planeticket easy in a few minutes online, they try another company. They should have outsourced other things instead, things that are much easier to handle, like flying a plane, maintance or catering :)

I have nothing against SAS.

According to TakeOff, SAS will keep CPH as their main hub as Staff said.

In other news, US Airways seriously considers opening a CPH to Philadelphia route ;-)

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Northstar,
I'm aware of that SAS' image problems in Norway. It might have something to do with that OSL isn't used as an intercontinental hub anymore. I don't know though.
Their image in Sweden and Denmark is far better though. I've always considered SAS as a great, high quality airline that sometimes is a bit expensive. I think most Swedes and Danes share that opinion.

TOCO,
Good news. I wonder if they will keep their PHL-ARN route in that case, or fly to two destinations in Scandinavia from PHL.

The fact that many have to fly to Copenhagen first may be part of the explanation, but I think there are many other factors too. And what is it with all these strikes all the time? It must be either poor management, or spoiled employees, or both.

Good news. I wonder if they will keep their PHL-ARN route in that case, or fly to two destinations in Scandinavia from PHL.
nothing suggests that they wont keep the PHL-ARN route. :) According to rumours the archenemy Delta might soon start flying to ARN. Both US and Delta are currently expanding a lot.

Passengers Norwegian April:
457.296 (+26%)

Increase domestic routes: 7%
Increase international routes: 61%

I wonder what the total amount of passengers per month are, now that they've bought FlyNordic. 550.000?

Other Norwegian news:
May 10'th: Norwegian opens two new routes between Norway and Poland, Oslo – Szczecin and Stavanger – Warszawa. Two flights a week from the end of october.
May 11'th: Norwegian buys 11 planes of the type Boeing 737-800 HGW with Winglets. The company have 22 Boeing 737-300 planes before this purcase. With these planes, it will be possible to open longer routes. The new planes will be delivered in 2008-2010, have 189 seats and use 20% less fuel per passenger.
May 11'th: Norwegian opens routes to the Canaries. Oslo - Las Palmas and Oslo - Tenerife will start in the end of october, two flights per week.

Finnair starts direct flights to Hong Kong, by removing the stop at Bangkok. In the beginning there'll be five weekly direct flights, but from 4th June the flights will be daily (like Beijing and Shanghai).

One of the reasons why people in Norway dont like SAS is bechause they have used dirty tricks to run every compeditor into the ground.

They dumped their prices and took out Color Air within a year or two, bought Braathens and then exploited their monopoly by raising prices and screwing the consumers.

Thankfully Norwegian showed up. Norwegian have cheap tickets, that's about it. They are about as reliable as RyanAir. The only reason they're as high as 55 is bechause they're taking on SAS, and Norwegians love underdogs.

I've flown both to Budapest, London and twice to northern Norway, without experiencing any difficulties with them. But you have to take into account that it is a low-fare company when flying with them.

You're right about SAS destroying the domestic market. That is also one of the reasons I don't like them. After they bought up Braathens, flying OSL-KRS became so expensive that it is no option for me anymore. That also made it harder for buisnesses in southern Norway.

:lol:

And now it's the Swedish employees of SAS who are going to have a strike.

Arlanda April 2007 - 747mania

Arlanda might not be the 2nd biggest airport in the Nordics anymore but it remains one of the two Nordic "giants".

SAS, arriving from Beijing
http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/2872/1206819dn4.jpg

http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/6573/1199964ic6.jpg
Jade Cargo.
http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/245/1197542pj8.jpg

http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/720/1205406yh4.jpg
Cathay
http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/4444/1200892kz7.jpg

http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/8374/1210763np9.jpg
Air China
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/4986/1207365pf4.jpg

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/6079/787611178781505ru2.jpg

http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/4226/873551177998436kc3.jpg

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/5918/1201770km3.jpg

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/5475/490841177934899qr0.jpg

Arlanda April 2007 - 747mania

Arlanda might not be the 2nd biggest airport in the Nordics anymore but it remains one of the two Nordic "giants".

Where's the logic in that?

I think he's referring to that while Oslo sees virtually no wide-body airliners (except for the 3-weekly, or so, PIA 777/747/A300 and some charter flights), Arlanda gets several wide-body visitors.

I think he's referring to that while Oslo sees virtually no wide-body airliners (except for the 3-weekly, or so, PIA 777/747/A300 and some charter flights), Arlanda gets several wide-body visitors.

that was indeed what I was referring to ;) (size and diversity)

Hehe.
Although, that Ethiopian 757 is hardly a widebody aircraft. ;)

that was indeed what I was referring to ;) (size and diversity)

Aha, so all the facts and figures are just a diversion!

^^
Well, there is no doubt that OSL has surpassed ARN in terms of total pax - although, the very main part of OSL's passenger body are still those of domestic and low cost carrier flights.
Ringil is referring to size (of the aircraft, that is) and diversity (ie. where the aircraft are coming from - Beijing, Addis Adeba, Teheran and so on). :)

Which non-European airports operate from Arlanda, Gardemoen and Helsinki? (only serving passengers).

I think these are the ones from CPH:

Delta
Continental
Thai
Singapore Airlines
SyrianAirlines
Pakistan International Airlines
Iran Air

...and then we have Scandinavian serving 7 intercontinental routes.

Did I forget any?

We recently lost Varig due to the their collapse...Will the new Varig (Gol) reopen the route?

By the way, I don't understand why Kenya Airways or South African haven't opened up a route serving Africa. There must be a market for this...

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that Ethiopian 757 is hardly a widebody aircraft
true, but still bloody exotic for a Nordic airport. Must be the only African airline operating a route to the Nordic region?


Which non-European airports operate from Arlanda, Gardemoen and Helsinki? (only serving passengers).


Non-European airlines on Arlanda (Israeli airlines excluded)

Continental
US Airways
Thai
Syrian Air
Iran Air
Ethiopian
Malaysia Airlines
Air China
(Qatar, fall 07)

What about Gardermoen and Vantaa?

And the SAS strike is over....

That's a short list for Gardermoen:lol:

* Pakistan International Airlines
* Continental Airlines

^^
Don't forget Continental Airlines!

^^
Don't forget Continental Airlines!

Oops, didn't notice that one, I'll fix it right away!

You also forgot the biggest of 'em all. The Korean Air Cargo 747 that comes empty every tuesday and loads up until its full of fresh fish for the asian markets.


http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/8882/1150040ef2.jpg

But wasn't this about passengers? Human passengers, that is:D

But wasn't this about passengers? Human passengers, that is:D

Nope, our swedish friend posted pics of 3 freighters. Apparently it doesent matter how many people travel thru your airport, its how far they go without stopping. Or fish.

Nope, our swedish friend posted pics of 3 freighters. Apparently it doesent matter how many people travel thru your airport, its how far they go without stopping. Or fish.

If you would have read through the thread more carefully you would perhaps have spotted TorontoCopenhagen's reply, asking for the Non-European passenger airlines on our airports. But hey, what do I know, maybe you count fish as passengers too :D j/k
So, no, I did not post any pics of any freighters when answering TC's question.

Transport hotar med strejk

Knappt har de kabinanställdas strejk avblåst förrän SAS hotas av nya åtgärder. Enligt Transports ordförande kan det bli tal om en ny strejk om hans medlemmar inte får igenom en löneökning på 13-14 procent. "Viljan att strida är stark inom flygindustrin", säger han till SvD.se.

Bara timmar efter att HTF blåst av de kabinanställdas strejk mot SAS kan det bli aktuellt med ännu en konflikt.

Den 18 juni inleder Transportarbetareförbundet förhandlingar med flygbolaget för sina medlemmar. Om förbundet inte får igenom en löneökning på 13-14 procent för tekniker, mekaniker och lastare kan ytterligare en strejk vara ett faktum.

- Jag tror att det kan bli tuffa förhandlingar, det har man ju sett från veckans kopnflikt. Men vi kan inte ta hänsyn till det, vi måste se till våra medlemmars behov, säger Per Winberg, ordförande till SvD.se.

Så det kan bli flygstrejk igen?

- Låt mig säga så här, Viljan att strida är stark inom flygindustrin, säger Per Winberg till SvD.se.




oh no, not again :ohno: :bash:

By the way...I forgot Air Greenland, which serves Copenhagen with an Airbus A330.

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By the way...I forgot Air Greenland, which serves Copenhagen with an Airbus A330.
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Now THAT is high prestige :)

It is actually...It is a big aircraft and they have very nice livery ;-)

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Has it been mentioned that THAI will have two daily departures/arrivals from Copenhagen in the near future...?

http://www.standby.dk/4435.0.html?&encryptionKey=%E6kj93%E6hsoiO%28%29%23%28%A4jhds%E6unckjs&tx_standbynews_pi1[showUid]=23615&cHash=412d93d66f


Thai vil have to daglige afgange
Thai Airways planlægger at få to dobbelte daglige afgange fra København til Bangkok



"Jeg regner med, at Thai Airways i løbet af et til to år hver dag vil have dobbelt daglige afgange direkte fra København til Bangkok. Thai Airways har i øjeblikket ikke flykapacitet nok. Men jeg regner med vi kan få nogle fly, og bytte om på nogle fly, så Boeing 747 kan sættes ind på København," sagde Wallop Bhukkanasut, Executive Vice President, Thai Airways, til Stand By ved Star Alliance 10 års jubilæum i København i går.

"Københavner ruten har absolut top prioritering for os. Det er den næst største rute for Thai i Europa. Flere og flere danskere tager til Thailand, flere og flere er gengangere, der er flere og flere forretningsfolk, og flere og flere bruger Bangkok som et hub, når de skal videre i Østen eller Australien/ New Zealand. I mellemtiden prøver vi, om Thai kan forlænge sin rute fra Athen til København, så flyet går Bangkok, Athen – København. Vi tager beslutning hurtigt og jeg håber vi kan flyve fra det tidlige efterår, så vi er på plads inden vintersæsonen. I øjeblikket er der kun en loadfaktor på 50 procent på Bangkok – Athen, som flyver tre gange om ugen. Hvis vi kan få 150 passagerer fra København på denne rute, er vi tilfredse," siger Wallop Bhukkanasut, Executive Vice President, Thai Airways.


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Amazing that Thai's CPH-route is the next biggest to Europe, after FRA. CPH is actually bigger than LHR! Mindblowing.

Will be nice with the B777-300 (via Athens) as a complement to the daily B747. There are no B777-300 at CPH today.
I think that Thai will operate with A380 to Copenhagen within 10 years.

From now on, we will not only see this THAI giant at CPH:
http://nl.airliners.net/photos/photos/8/5/0/1196058.jpg

...but also this one!
http://nl.airliners.net/photos/photos/0/0/8/1141800.jpg


As for US Airways opening a PHL-CPH route, they will most likely free up a B757 and use that to ARN, and transfer the current B767 to CPH.

^^^No stealling....

Kastrup tappar svensk-norsk transit

Kastrup har de senaste fem åren tappat nära 33 procent av transitpassagerarna från Sverige och 28,4 procent från Norge.

- Kundernas vilja att flyga via någon flygplats har som en följd minskat. Därför har de reguljära bolagen tvingats följa efter för att kunna konkurrera. Det är en trend som kommit för att stanna, säger Mats Sigurdson, chef flygmarknad, LFV Stockholm/Arlanda Flygplats, till Flygtorget @irmail.

En annan anledning är att Arlanda har dragit till sig egna långlinjer till USA, Kina och Malaysia och nu snart till Doha i Qatar.

Även Finnair har tagit många transitpassagerare från Kastrup genom deras stora och framgångsrika satsning på Asienlinjer, vilka i dag leder många norska och svenska Asienpassagerare via Helsingfors, i stället för via Köpenhamn.

still Kastrup manage to increase the passenger amount every year. Say's a lot! :)

Ringil I read that report as wa.ell, but it doesn't really matter since all European airports have seen more point to point routes due to all the new LCC's - including Copenhagen.

Sterling will open up a route from Copenhagen to Dakar during the winter ;-)

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One more intercontinental flight! Great! :)

EDIT: eh, I'm staff. Wrote this from another account by mistake.

One more intercontinental flight! Great! :)

EDIT: eh, I'm staff. Wrote this from another account by mistake.

Yeah, sure...Im Staff too....:ohno: :nuts:

:lol:

^^What, you too?

What? Me? No!

Do any of you know if Arkia Israel Airlines flies from Tel Aviv to Copenhagen...According their website they do:

www.arkia.co.il

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^^
I don't think they do. Airliners.net doesn't have any photos newer than 2004 taken at CPH in their database.

CPH May 1.859.887 +1,4 %

year to date 8.184.943 + 2.4 %

Do any of you know if Arkia Israel Airlines flies from Tel Aviv to Copenhagen...According their website they do:

www.arkia.co.il

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They do not apear to be on the list....

http://www.cph.dk/CPH/DK/MAIN/Foer+afrejse/Flyselskaber.htm

Impressive that CPH ended on plus-numbers despite the strike chaos!

Impressive that CPH ended on plus-numbers despite the strike chaos!

They didnt, that was the april numbers, and they were down. This only includes the mini strike in SAS sweden. I have posted the numbers earlier...


Edit- Posted here http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=13076027&postcount=124

April down almost 3 % because of the strike...

Check this out then:

http://www.arkia.co.il/click/cl_4004.post_01_search?a=7&g=N&ds=193&tra=0&jr=Y&t=9X&fg=324&kj=09%2F06%2F2007&vb=90X&fq=325&y=16%2F06%2F2007

We must check the CPH arrivals on these days to check.

There is also a destination for Arbil, Iraq - I don't know the airline...Maybe Sawan?

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Stockholm-Arlanda 1 568 082pax -4% SAS strike maybe?

Göteborg-Lanvetter 389 974pax -1% again SAS?

Stockholm-Bromma 177 830pax +14%, third airport in Sweden

Malmö-Sturup 169 698pax -5%

Big changes in SAS. They are selling all shares in Spanair, British Midland and Air Greenland. They may also sell SAS Ground Services and SAS Technical Services...Someone mentioned they also wanted to move HQ, but I cant see anything about that, and that seams unlikely to me...move to where?

Anyways, more info wil be comming throughout the day I asume...

edit: Berlingske say they will move HQ too, but I think they will just move to something cheaper...

May:
Oslo Gardermoen: 1 674 215 (+5.3%)
Bergen: 400 941 (+4.5%)
Trondheim: 300 004 (+3.7%)
Stavanger: 294 572 (+3.4%)
Tromsø: 136 413 (+2.6%)
Sandefjord,"Oslo": 130 384 (+20.3%)
Bodø: 121 624 (+5.9%)

Scandinavian airline operator SAS to sell Spanair, bmi and Air Greenland

The Associated Press
Wednesday, June 13, 2007

STOCKHOLM, Sweden: Scandinavian travel group SAS AB said Wednesday it would sell its holdings in three airlines as it announced a savings package designed to cut costs by 2.8 billion kronor (€299 million; US$399 million).

SAS said it would sell its stakes in Spanair, bmi and Air Greenland and focus on its flagship carrier, Scandinavian Airlines, as well as its smaller airlines Blue 1, Wideroe, airBaltic and Estonian Air.

The package was initially planned to be presented on Thursday, but was moved forward because of market and media speculation on what it contained.

The company said it would divest units outside of its core business, cut back on its central administration and move its Stockholm headquarters, but did not say to where. It was not immediately clear whether any staff would be laid off.

SAS expects to implement the new measures in 2007-2009 and raise its pretax profit by some 4 billion kronor (€427 million; US$569.83 million) a year until 2011.

For years, SAS has struggled to return to profitability in a highly competitive market and where higher oil prices have hit the sector hard. In 2006, it went into the black for the first time since the year 2000. For the full year 2006, it posted a profit before tax of 292 million kronor (€31.2 million; US$41.64 million), compared with a previous loss of 246 million kronor (€26.3 million; US$35.1 million).

"Through the new direction SAS will create over a four-year period the preconditions for growth in all markets and increase the number of passengers by a total of 20 percent," the group said in a statement.

The future of SAS subsidiaries, such as SAS Ground Services, SAS Technical Services and Spririt, would be evaluated this fall, the company said.

SAS, which has been hard hit by recent strikes by Scandinavian Airlines cabin crews, also said it would develop a new model for working with labor unions.

"We have to abandon the strike culture that has long existed at SAS," Chief Executive Mats Jansson said. "We have to stand together behind a new customer-oriented business culture based on the needs, requirements and expectations of customers."

Stig Nymann, an analyst at Gudme Raashou, said the plan looked "fairly promising," but warned that five years from now "is far away from now and a lot of things can happen."

Nymann said it was a logical step for the company, but that it could lead to layoffs.

"If you're planning to save 2.8 billion (€299 million; US$399.02 million) there will be rationalizations, but it's hard to speculate on when and how that will happen," he said adding staff cuts may be managed through retirement plans.

The market is expecting Spanair, SAS's largest holding on the airline sales list, to go for around 4.3 billion kronor (€459 million; US$612.54 million), but Nymann said it felt "a bit high."

Another analyst, Jacob Pedersen at Sydbank, said he estimated the value of the bmi holding at between 3 billion kronor and 5 billion kronor (€320 million-534 million; US$427 million-712.62 million) and the Spanair stake at between 3.5 billion kronor and 4.5 billion kronor (€374 million-€480 million; US$499.1 million-640.56 million).

SAS shares fell 0.9 percent 158.5 kronor (€16.9; US$22.55) in Stockholm.

(ln)

So... In about three to four years, the rest will be sold, or how is it that works again?

It is good to see that SAS is doing all of this.

In the long run it will mean more long-haul routes from Scandinavia...

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^^ Well you might be pleased to hear that SAS are talking about reopening Toronto-Copenhagen TORONTOCOPENHAGEN :) :

http://www.takeoff.dk/news.cfm?nNewsWeekly=0&nNewsId=11832 (in Danish only)

Yes...VERY pleased!

But according to your link it doesn't say that the route will be from Copenhagen, but I guess that it would be the natural choice since CPH is the hub.

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At Qatar airways site you can now book flights from Stockholm, and I must say the prices look good :)

Stockholm-Doha-Nairobi, in December >> 6700:- sek
Stockholm-Doha-Bali, in January >> 6781:- sek
Stockholm-Doha-Dar Es Salaam, in February > 6600:- sek
Stockholm-Doha-Kathmandu, in February >> 8051: sek (17314:- with Thai, the next cheapest airline)
Stockholm-Doha-Maldives, in February >> 7330:- sek (next cheapest tickets with a different airline is at 25.000 sek)
Stockholm-Doha-Osaka, in February >> 6640: sek
Stockholm-Doha-Hong Kong, in Mars >> 5900:- sek


Qatar Airways is gonna be Ringil's official Airline in the futur :D

http://www.takeoff.dk/news.cfm?nNewsWeekly=0&nNewsId=11832 (in Danish only)

The article say that they will order new short and middledistance planes ,to replace the most fuel in-efficient in the fleet. With this they probably mean the many MD80's.

Which aircrafts do you guys think they will acquire?

I was out kayaking today and saw two Singapore Airlines 747s (Cargo I think) within 1 hour (around 5 o'clock)! Isn't that unusual?

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FINNAIR LAUNCHES FLIGHTS TO SEOUL

Finnair is launching direct flights to the capital of South Korea, Seoul, in June 2008 with five weekly frequencies. The flights will be operated with Finnair's new Airbus A340-300 long-haul aircraft.

The majority of passengers are expected to be South Korean, especially during the summer season. The Seoul route will complement Finnair's constantly growing Asian network and support Helsinki's status as an important transfer point between Europe and Asia. Seoul will be Finnair's eleventh Asian destination.

Finnair will be the only airline to fly non-stop from South Korea to northern Europe. In addition Finnair will offer excellent connections from Helsinki to over 40 European cities.

The flight time from Helsinki to Seoul is 8 hours and 55 minutes. From Seoul to Helsinki it is 9 hours and 50 minutes.

.......
for more: http://www.finnairgroup.com/group/group_11_1_1.html?&Id=hex_200706260000253326.html

Seoul is very welcome!

Swedish airports in June;

Not as bad as May.

Stockholm-Arlanda 1 672 651 +2%
Göteborg-Lanvetter 424 328 +4%
Malmö-Sturup 170 119 +0%
Stockholm-Bromma 150 514 +7%

Swedish airports in June;

Not as bad as May.

Stockholm-Arlanda 1 672 651 +2%
Göteborg-Lanvetter 424 328 +4%
Malmö-Sturup 170 119 +0%
Stockholm-Bromma 150 514 +7%

Pretty good...

CPH airport 2.046.954 + 1.9%

year to date 10.231.897 + 2.3%

Today is btw the biggest travel day in the biggest travel weekend of the whole year, and the day it went completely wrong last year. Today however, everything seams to be working just fine.

Numbers for OSL:

June 07: 1 844 045 (+~6,0 %)passengers

Jan-Jun 07: 9 093 673 (+7,8 %) passengers

The 15th of June the passenger-record got broken. That day 72 349 passengers traveled through the airport.


So.. I guess CPH's status as largest airport in the region (in passengers) is mainly temporarly?

Helsinki-Vantaa Airport June 2007
Passengers: 1 219 670 (+6.2%)
- Domestic: 230 291 (-2.5%)
- International: 989 379 (+8.5%)

Helsinki-Vantaa Airport June 2007
Passengers: 1 219 670 (+6.2%)
- Domestic: 230 291 (-2.5%)
- International: 989 379 (+8.5%)

I was one of those international passengers at HEL in June!
Very nice airport to transfer though connecting flight to Vilnius departed 40 minutes after landing from New York which of course I missed (due to the mess at JFK). I was presented with a 13 Euro coupon by Finnair to have breakfast. I was also allowed to make a free phonecall to people waiting for me in Vilnius to tell them I am delayed. I then went to Scandic hotel downstairs and paid to enter a Finnish sauna and shower which was a nice treat after the overnight transAtlantic flight. Overall, I was quite satisfied with the level of service and courteousness by the staff at HEL.
:cheers:

The passenger numbers for Denmarks 3rd largest airport, Aalborg are stunning.

Jan-jun 2007 461.378 (+30 %)

The reason is new routes to London and Malaga, plus bigger competetion on the Copenhagen route, which now has 18 daily deppartures with Cimber, SAS and Sterling.

A renovation and expansion of the terminal is progress.

So.. I guess CPH's status as largest airport in the region (in passengers) is mainly temporarly?
Well, the difference between OSL and CPH in June was still almost 200.000 pax. That's more than Malmo-Sturup's total figure for one month.

ARN was the largest airport (pax) in Scandinavia just some 5-10 years ago, so I guess it changes from time to time. Although, CPH always remains as the no 1 hub and kills all competition when it comes to international passangers/flights.

Strong growth in Finnair's Europe-Asia traffic

Finnair scheduled traffic, measured in passenger kilometers, increased by 26.5% compared to June last year. The growth was derived from Asian traffic, which grew in June by 35.4%, as well as from European traffic, where demand exceeded last year's figure by 27.9%. At the beginning of June, Finnair launched a new Airbus A340 aircraft in Asian traffic. Another Airbus began operating at the end of June.
source (http://www.finnairgroup.com/group/group_11_2_1.html?&Id=1184047926.html)

Oslo Gardermoen July:
1.752.777 (+4.4%)

July in the Swedish airports,

Stockholm-Arlanda, 1 432 221, 5% quite good results.
Göteborg-Lanvetter, 351 062, 2%
Stockholm-Bromma, 88 064, 25%
Malmö-Sturup, 140 698, 7%

Good month for almost all the swedish airports.

July in Helsinki-Vantaa Airport

International passengers: 967 292 (+10,5 %)
Domestic passengers: 131 231 (-12,1 %)
Total: 1 098 523 (+7,2%)

I don`t know whats the funniest. The Arlanda numbers for July, or Anglade calling Stockholm the capital of Scandinavia? :lol:

CPH Airport July 2.131.219 (2.9%)

Oslo Gardermoen July:
1.752.777 (+4.4%)

How many of those are international passengers?

I don`t know whats the funniest. The Arlanda numbers for July, or Anglade calling Stockholm the capital of Scandinavia? :lol:

1st, If you check and analyse the information, you can see that Arlanda after Helsinki is the one that most grow in July.

2nd, Stockholm has three airports, Arlanda with near 18million pax and Bromma and Skavsta with near 2. Then, we can say that Stockholm is the capital in Scandinavia with more pax(not sure,It needs to be calculated)

3rd, Economically, Political, Turistical and much more beautiful, Stockholm is known as the capital of Scandinavia. (i dont want to discuss that since It just opinions and people from Cph can disagree but I guess not from Oslo since even Göteborg is almost as big as Oslo).

4th, July is not specially important for Arlanda since July most of the people take their holidays and there are not so many business people travelling.
The airport has more charter travellers than business with is the core of Arlanda in week days.

5th and to sum up, we can consider that July has been a good month for Arlanda since it has grown 5% and in overall to all the airports in Stockholm.

^^ Novak, we dont have the domestic/international numbers yet, but in June Oslo had 1.012.994 domestic passengers. For July I guess between 950.000 and 1.000.000. But you cant compere the numbers with Helsinki or Copenhagen, since we have very few transfer passengers, which realy has nothing to do with the city ;)

It's quite fun to see how cocky some norwegians became after Gardermoen surpassed Arlanda. :lol:

It's quite fun to see how cocky some norwegians became after Gardermoen surpassed Arlanda. :lol:

Yeah, we are almost as cocky as the Swedes..:lol:

^^Oh, god forbit....

Yeah, we are almost as cocky as the Swedes..:lol:

hey, we prefer the word arrogant! :lol:

In my view Gardemoen is still inferior to Arlanda, since there are hardly any intercontinental flights...

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In my view Gardemoen is still inferior to Arlanda, since there are hardly any intercontinental flights...

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thats no news though ;)

In my view Gardemoen is still inferior to Arlanda, since there are hardly any intercontinental flights...

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Boo-hoo say it aint so! :cry:

Can we get over this discussion?

^^I agree...Besides Copenhagen kick all the others asses, so why even bother...?

The prognosis for Gardermoen is 40.000.000 passengers in 2035, and 80.000.000 for norwegian aviation in total. I know that is many years ahead, but I think it says a lot about the norwegian economical and population growth.

In 2010 Gardermoen starts the construction of Terminal 2 with a 8.000.000 capacity pr year, including a second station for the highspeed train. It is supposed to be finnished in 2012, and the costs is about 3 billion NOK. A third runway is also planed at Gardermoen!

Norwegian travelers demand more and more direct flights, that means more passengers at Gardermoen and fewer transfer passengers at Kastup and Arlanda. I think Arlanda don`t have a chance against Gardermoen in the future, and that Kastrup have to work hard to keep Gardermoen behind..

^^Probably true. But the the oresund region and therefore kastrup and malmø will also grow...

^^Probably true. But the the oresund region and therefore kastrup and malmø will also grow...

You are absolutely right, Øresund is THE region in Scandinavia now and for many many years to come, and Stockholm region nr 2. But I think the Stockholmers are dreaming about "old glory" and almost live in denial. Their talk about Stockholm beeing the capital of Scandinavia is just pathetic! :lol:
I strongly believe that the Oslo region will be nr 2 in Scandinvia in 10-15 years, the swedes just don`t know it yet.:)

You are absolutely right, Øresund is THE region in Scandinavia now and for many many years to come, and Stockholm region nr 2. But I think the Stockholmers are dreaming about "old glory" and almost live in denial. Their talk about Stockholm beeing the capital of Scandinavia is just pathetic! :lol:
I strongly believe that the Oslo region will be nr 2 in Scandinvia in 10-15 years, the swedes just don`t know it yet.:)

Yeah, I agree it is pretty stupid and the kind of thing that happens when you are jealous. Stockholm has been the big dog in our region for decades and suddenly copenhagen comes along and steels the thunder....And so the they make comments like that.

I think the oil and all the other thing oslo has got going for it in the next many years will make ut surpass stockholm at some point. But as you also say, we are not there yet.

The prognosis for Gardermoen is 40.000.000 passengers in 2035, and 80.000.000 for norwegian aviation in total. I know that is many years ahead, but I think it says a lot about the norwegian economical and population growth

and a lot about the futur health of our planet :eek:

I think those prognosis are completely unrealistic. Those who make it just automatically assumes that people are going to fly more and more every year for the next 30 years, but don't take into acount where the fuel for all these planes will come from, how the future increased cost of fuel(that comes from a limited natural resource) will affect future travels, what the fast declining oil-production in the North Sea will do to the Norwegian economy, and a whole lot of other factors. Nothing grows into the sky...

I dunno how you guys could possibly be happy about increased air traffic. There are few things that pollute and emit CO2 as much. The faster air travelling ends the better.

The faster air travelling ends the better.

So you think all airtravel should end? :nuts: That about one of the dumbest things I've heard, well not in my life, but in this week atleast.

^^Horses forever.

I think we all long for the good ol' days when a trip to the city recuired an overnight stay or two. Didnt it take H.C. a week or two to get from odense to copenhagen?

The reason so much money is spent on developing super trains atm is precisely because there are so many people who do not want oil fuelled planes. Think about the vision about "European metro", with which you could travel around the continent at speeds far exceeding the fastest bullet trains we have today.

I mean, you don't seriously think I came up with this myself, did you? Calling me dumb, is either ignorance of the way things are going, or a flamebait.

Im pretty sure that one of the most important inventions this century will be the airplane engine that does not run on fossil fuels. I dont know how far they've come, but its very, very difficult. I know the US airforce did some research on a plane powered by a nuclear reactor, but obvoiously that would be too dangerous.

Hydrogen fuel cells might be the way to go, but they need to be much more efficient and lighter.

I beleive that the oil prive will skyrocket long before someone comes up with an answer, and air travel will be for the rich only, as it once was.

I beleive that the oil prive will skyrocket long before someone comes up with an answer, and air travel will be for the rich only, as it once was.

:okay:

As you say, an alternative may come up, but it will probably be too late, and take too long to implement. And the energy needed would have to come from somewhere too, regardless of solution. Hydrogen fuel cells is not a solution unless we find a way to make more energy, or give up the use of energy to other purposes, like industry, heating, other transport or so on, wich is unlikely. Cheap aviation is probably the first to go (in the industrialized countries). That is atleast my unprofessional view on the matter.

A good blog about peak-oil in Norwegian: http://energikrise.blogspot.com/

and an article in DN: http://www.dn.no/energi/article1131463.ece

Another thing is that if the current plans for high-speed rail in Norway are implemented (and that is a big if), much of the domestic market for Gardermoen will disappear. I guess we'll see how things play out when they release the report on high-speed rail in September.

I think those prognosis are completely unrealistic. Those who make it just automatically assumes that people are going to fly more and more every year for the next 30 years, but don't take into acount where the fuel for all these planes will come from, how the future increased cost of fuel(that comes from a limited natural resource) will affect future travels, what the fast declining oil-production in the North Sea will do to the Norwegian economy, and a whole lot of other factors. Nothing grows into the sky...

I don`t agree on this. I am tech-optimist about the future. I have no doubt that people will travel more and more in the future, also with planes. In 10-15 years very few NEW cars will use oil-products, so there will be enough for planes in many years to come. Even the peak-oil fanatics don`t scream about Doomsday as much as they did before.

read Olemt`s peak-oil thread in Veggavisen (Norwegian) with many links:
http://forum.tv2.no/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=34&threadid=18926&highlight_key=y&keyword1=peak%20oil


The norwegian oil production is declining, but the income is larger, and will be the next 20-40 years because of great GAS production and rising oil-prices. And we also got Thorium waiting for us.. The norwegian economy will be very strong in the future!

Another thing is that if the current plans for high-speed rail in Norway are implemented (and that is a big if), much of the domestic market for Gardermoen will disappear. I guess we'll see how things play out when they release the report on high-speed rail in September.

You have a point (bad english, I know) . But to compete with planes, the highspeed train also have to compete in traveling time. The highspeed train ring will not compete, with 2,5 hours from Stavanger/Bergen to Oslo. The Haukelibanen can compete, but then only for Bergen and Stavanger, not rest of the country. But still, I think Haukelibanens estimates is just about 3-4 mill passengers pr year. Domestic flights to Gardermoen will not die completly with highspeed train.

Norsk bane:
http://www.norskbane.no/index_n.htm

True that it is old news, but nevertheless an important fact to point out.

CPH is planning a 190 million kroner improvement of the C finger in the airport. See cph.dk for illustrations etc.

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It seems at Stockholms region is not moving and doesn't have any plans and projects...

:)

It seems at Stockholms region is not moving and doesn't have any plans and projects...

:)

...Which wouldn't be anything surprising but same good old Stockholm. Nada.

I don`t agree on this. I am tech-optimist about the future. I have no doubt that people will travel more and more in the future, also with planes. In 10-15 years very few NEW cars will use oil-products, so there will be enough for planes in many years to come. Even the peak-oil fanatics don`t scream about Doomsday as much as they did before.

read Olemt`s peak-oil thread in Veggavisen (Norwegian) with many links:
http://forum.tv2.no/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=34&threadid=18926&highlight_key=y&keyword1=peak%20oil


The norwegian oil production is declining, but the income is larger, and will be the next 20-40 years because of great GAS production and rising oil-prices. And we also got Thorium waiting for us.. The norwegian economy will be very strong in the future!

I don't have time to read the whole thread unfortunately, I'm not a doomsday'er that thinks we'll return to the middle-ages, but I think we must be aware how serious challenges that lies ahead. Oil production probably peaked already in 2005. Renewable sources and nuclear is the way to go ofcourse. But wind and solar-energy industry is still microscopic, and it will take decades until it makes a significant difference. I'm very sceptic to biofuels, using arable land to grow fuel instead of food is morally debatable to say atleast. It has some potential, I guess, but it's the scale that's needed to replace oil that is the problem. We have for the last 100 years spent and become depentant on fossil energy that has been stored in the ground for millions of years.

So I think it is rough times ahead, although as you say, Norway is blessed with so many natural resources that we'll manage quite good anyhow:) And who knows what the future will bring? Maybe we'll all have flying cars powered by fusion-powerplants in 2035, noone knows :)

I mean, you don't seriously think I came up with this myself, did you? Calling me dumb, is either ignorance of the way things are going, or a flamebait.

It is ignorance to say that you think airtravel should end. Airtravel is basically got us to where we are today. (which IMO is a pretty good place :) ) If it wasen't for planes, our entire economy would break down, as people and goods would't have a chance to reach distant places in an acceptable amount of time, and that even with the fastest trains. The idea about the 'european metro' is an idea that I can only support, but it would NEVER work for anything but europe, usa and maybe asia, on more than a regional basis, and it would NEVER be connectable to the rest of the world. Plus, you have to remeber that the airline industry are developing planes that are both faster, but also way more fuel efficient per passenger, and the are more enviormental friendly in their use of materials. Airtravel is a blessing for the world, and not the curse, many people make it out to be.

^^I agree...Besides Copenhagen kick all the others asses, so why even bother...?
:lol:

:lol:

I simply ment in airport terms...I am not trying to start one of those arguments...

It is ignorance to say that you think airtravel should end. Airtravel is basically got us to where we are today. (which IMO is a pretty good place :) ) If it wasen't for planes, our entire economy would break down, as people and goods would't have a chance to reach distant places in an acceptable amount of time, and that even with the fastest trains.

AirCARGO and airTRAVEL are two different things, and I never even mentioned the former. People will reach their destinations fast enough by rail, I have no doubt about that. IIRC the vision with Eurometro -thing was that the train would travel at 1000kph in a vacuum tube, which would keep friction close to zero.

I simply ment in airport terms...I am not trying to start one of those arguments...
It's ok man, I get it. I like your hirony. :)

It's ok man, I get it. I like your hirony. :)

No irony...:)

Very late, I know, but I don't think anyone has posted the passenger numbers for Billund (2nd largest in Denmark). It has been a really good year, and the Jan - Jul numbers are: 1.287.212 ( +15.0%), which could look like it will make the "magic" 2 million mark in 2007. One of the reason are a bunch of new routes, and specially Ryanair are very active. It's not very long ago (maybe a year?) that there was no Ryanair routes from Billund, but soon it will have 8 (Alicante, Barcelona, Dublin, London, Madrid, Milan, Pisa and Valencia). Ryanair expects around 500.000 passengers anually on these routes.