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Neonxian January 24th, 2007, 12:34 PM http://www.riversideeastperth.com.au/riverside/
http://www.riversideeastperth.com.au/Riverside/NewsEventsAndPublications/MediaReleases/Riverside+development+to+transform+Perth+CBD%E2%80%99s+eastern+end.htm
Riverside development to transform Perth CBD’s eastern end
1 May 2008
The eastern end of Perth’s CBD will undergo a massive transformation, with housing for 5,846 residents and commercial space for 1,704 workers as part of a projected $880million investment by the State Government and private sector.
Significant revisions of the 2004 Riverside Masterplan (formerly called Gateway) were announced today by Planning and Infrastructure Minister Alannah MacTiernan.
Ms MacTiernan said the development, which includes proposals from the Western Australian Cricket Association (WACA), Western Australian Trotting Association (WATA) and Trinity College, is a reflection of Perth’s growing confidence.
“The urban intensity offered through Riverside will help bring our eastern gateway alive,” she said.
“The Masterplan review advocates a more flexible approach to height and density to meet the demand for inner city living, re-energise the eastern end of our city and better activate the edges of the Swan River.
" This builds on the activity already underway in the Riverside redevelopment, with 334 new apartments under construction within the Queens Precinct bordered by Hay Street, Adelaide Terrace and the WA Police Headquarters.
“You need a critical mass of residents and workers to create a hum on the street - the revisions to the Riverside Masterplan are mindful of this.”
For areas yet to be developed, the review recommends street-level podium buildings of up to six levels, with taller elements up to 20 storeys set back from street edges to preserve solar access and key view corridors.
Ms MacTiernan said the reviewed Masterplan will give a new momentum to the planned WACA redevelopment, as well as the WA Trotting Association’s (WATA) proposal to extend the track at Gloucester Park and put residential apartments on its fringes.
“I’m particularly pleased that cricket and trotting will be staying in the area – and this plan will help them do this while at the same time provide them with some development opportunities on the edge of their land,” she said.
“These activities will continue to attract a broad cross section of the WA community, ensuring this remains a socially inclusive area.”
Perth MLA John Hyde welcomed the reviewed Masterplan.
“I’m glad the plans allow for the future development of Trinity College, which for more than 40 years has influenced the character and history of Perth CBD’s eastern end,” Mr Hyde said.
Trinity College is currently undertaking a strategic analysis of its long term development plans.
The Riverside redevelopment is being delivered by the East Perth Redevelopment Authority in collaboration with the City of Perth, WACA, WATA and Trinity College.
“The Riverside Masterplan review incorporates the results of engagement with landowners and stakeholders over the past 18 months and responds to population growth projections, changing demographics and sustainability opportunities since it was released in 2004 as the Gateway Masterplan,” the Minister said.
Ms MacTiernan said that the review also identified a need for continued focus on sustainable development outcomes and innovation. Developments at Riverside will be required to incorporate new technologies for heating and cooling; use energy efficient materials; further minimise, recycle and reuse energy, waste and water; protect the area’s unique biodiversity and increase the use of public transport, walking and cycling.
“The most noticeable change in the Masterplan review are at the Waterbank precinct,” the Minister said.
“We have effectively reversed the layout of Waterbank’s waterway and buildings in response to detailed geotechnical and planning investigations and incorporated water reuse, energy saving and waste disposal initiatives on a scale never before adopted in Perth.
“Waterbank will have tremendous community and public facilities that will make the most of being on the banks of the Swan River.”
The first Riverside residents are due to move into the Queens precinct in 2009. The Waterbank precinct is expected to be developed next and its scheme amendment and design guidelines will be available for public comment mid-year. Detailed planning for the remaining Riverside precincts will be finalised in early 2009.
Riverside is expected to involve an investment of up to $130million by the East Perth Redevelopment Authority and approximately $750million in flow-on investment by the private sector. Riverside will create more than 3,400 new residences, including about 230 affordable dwellings, for approximately 5,800 residents. Approximately 1,700 new employees will work at Riverside.
The Riverside Masterplan Review will be released for a 50-day period of key stakeholder comment.
Minister's office - 9213 6400
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TRINITY RESERVE, (LOT 500) TRINITY AVENUE AND PART OF HAY
STREET AND CAUSEWAY RESERVES, EAST PERTH - PROPOSED
FORWARD WORKS FOR THE WATERBANK PRECINCT
RECOMMENDATION: (APPROVAL)
http://perth.wa.gov.au/documentdb/988.pdf
Stage 1
http://www.queensriverside.com.au/queensriverside/
fraser towers 65m/18st, 75m/18st
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Neonxian January 24th, 2007, 12:49 PM Snatched from todays West Alien
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Bold plan to revamp gateway to city
24th January 2007, 6:00 WST
The former MTT bus depot site on Adelaide Terrace will be home to a five-star hotel, residential apartments, cafes, restaurants and retail outlets under plans lodged with the East Perth Redevelopment Authority for the first stage of the agency’s bid to remodel Perth’s eastern gateway.
Global hotel developer Frasers, which bought four of six available lots at the depot site last year for an estimated $14 million, hopes to build 280 residential dwellings and 1500sqm of cafe-retail space.
The centrepiece of the plans are two 18-storey towers proposed for two lots fronting Adelaide Terrace. One tower would house the 148-suite hotel and the other would contain 131 dwellings, including apartments and two-storey town houses. Lowerscale development of between four and eight storeys is proposed on the other two lots.
While neither the EPRA nor Frasers would comment yesterday, it is believed the tower components of Frasers’ plans could be a sticking point for the EPRA. The agency has yet to fully assess the plans, but its design guidelines for the MTT depot site call for development stepping up from three storeys on the Hay Street lots to a maximum of 12 storeys on the Adelaide Terrace lots. Those design guidelines were in place when the lots were sold.
Frasers’ plans were unveiled last night to Perth City Council’s planning committee. Though it has no planning powers in EPRAcontrolled areas of the city, the council is generally asked to comment.
A report by council planners expressed disappointment at a lack of detail contained in Frasers’ development application. It said the site, at the eastern end of the CBD, was an important gateway to Perth and buildings of only 12 storeys could be “a lost opportunity” to create a “landmark development”.
“If additional height and scale is to be accepted, however, it should be only on the basis that excellent urban design and architectural outcomes are achieved,” the report said. “The site is . . . a prominent gateway site within the city which demands excellent design outcomes and there are clearly factors which require either design modification or more detailed consideration.”
It is understood discussions between the EPRA and Frasers are ongoing.
Frasers’ other hotel operations, in cities including Sydney, London, Singapore and Manila, focus on highend suites aimed at business travellers on short to medium-length stays.
Other features planned include a substantial underground carpark extending across lots underneath the streets, a pocket park in the southeastern corner and a “green spine” pedestrian link between the development and Queens Gardens.
GARETH PARKER
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I would like more information but i can't find any so assistance would be appreciated.
Dilaz89 January 31st, 2007, 10:29 AM The pcc didnt like this and neither did I actually. The adelaide tce frontage is dead and the design is average. EPra will have to discuss with Frasers another design and layout. The height however, was supported overall.
anyway, The west tower is approx 60m to roof, 65m to plant, the east tower is also 60m to roof and 70m+ to architectual feature, which doesnt look half bad.
pics coming soon.
Dilaz89 February 2nd, 2007, 07:58 AM pics
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chrisaus February 2nd, 2007, 09:43 AM abit hard to say from the renders, but looks pretty good to me.... perth city council are strange though
Dilaz89 February 2nd, 2007, 10:25 AM nah they are mediocre to the max
Scraperfan February 2nd, 2007, 10:30 AM Second render on the far left... thats a mock up of what might be there as a comparison yeh?
If its not, what building is it. Im taking that view is looking south and Im not aware of a building that tall on that site right now...
Dilaz89 February 2nd, 2007, 10:34 AM possible scenario of the chemistry centre site.
Scraperfan February 2nd, 2007, 10:45 AM Why include this? Im thinking height comparison for what would be allowed on that site and hence how it would fit in with this... or does it have some substance behind it?
Anything mooted for redevelopment on that site?
Bloody hell I live so far north I cant get as acquainted as you with the sites!
Dilaz89 February 2nd, 2007, 11:03 AM It's all riverside so yeah something will happen. I think you gotta visit the city more frequently.
Citystyle February 2nd, 2007, 11:39 AM Vertical Louver sliding screen.
Alliminium sliding screen.
Metal cladding to plantroom structure.
Coloured concrete panals.
Some of the details sounds great (quality not known). Dont know why you crying because the earlier riverside renders had shit for this site. These look nice apart from the clear office like podiums. I like the Boxy design it's edgy and i love the colour scheme as well. Sounds like the required nit picking, dont expect large changes.
RocStar February 2nd, 2007, 02:35 PM Doesn't look too bad to me either. More realistic renders would have been more appropriate. Also we should be happy both are at 18 levels. The EPRA plan states the sites at 12lev. EPRA may still knock the height back??
Dilaz, the pics are too big man:D
Citystyle February 2nd, 2007, 02:46 PM Doesn't look too bad to me either. More realistic renders would have been more appropriate. Also we should be happy both are at 18 levels. The EPRA plan states the sites at 12lev. EPRA may still knock the height back??
Dilaz, the pics are too big man:D
EPRA wont be concerned about hight i dont think. But the Podiums are retarted, look like a school wet area.
Perth4life February 8th, 2007, 10:56 AM i no where the site is now, will look good
Scribbler March 30th, 2007, 10:55 AM APPROVED by EPRA today....
Dilaz89 March 30th, 2007, 01:13 PM Theres a new design out too. Got pics?
Neonxian March 31st, 2007, 06:25 AM Have they entered any plans to change the gateway to the city so it can be approved by the PCC yet?
Scribbler April 1st, 2007, 09:14 AM Doesn't have to be approved by the PCC, it's under EPRA jurisdiction.
Neonxian April 1st, 2007, 09:32 AM Heres the Media Release from the EPRA website
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More Prime Inner-**** Land Released.
Planning and Infrastructure Minister Alannah MacTiernan announced today the first six lots at East Perth Redevelopment Authority’s (EPRA) Riverside ***** re***al project had been sold for $20.2million.
The development on the former Metrobus Depot site within the Queens Precinct, will see 350 apartments and townhouses, as well as a 120 room hotel built in the next two to three years, bolstering the inner-**** housing market.
Riverside will transform 40ha of prime inner **** land, bounded by Plain ******, Adelaide Terrace, Waterloo Crescent and the Swan River, into a vibrant *** community mixing entertainment, leisure, working and living opportunities.
Ms MacTiernan said the two-stage expression of interest process was designed to achieve the best result for the eastern entrance to the Perth CBD.
“After a comprehensive assessment process, Lots 101 and 104 Moreau Parade and Lots 105 and 106 Adelaide Terrace are under contract to Frasers Property Group, with Lots 102 and 103 Hay ****** under contract to TRG Properties,” said Ms MacTiernan.
Frasers property group has been developing high end residential developments in Australia since 1994.
“It was a very competitive process and all of the short-listed submissions were of a very high standard,” Ms MacTiernan said.
Lots 102 and 103, Hay ******, front Queen’s Gardens and are zoned for residential development and local company TRG will develop the sites into townhouses and terraced apartments of up to three storeys.
Up to 1,500 people will eventually live and work at the Queens Precinct, which will be a similar sized community as the entire suburbs of Churchlands or Crawley.
Ms MacTiernan said land at Riverside would be sold in stages over the next 10years.
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I'd still like to know the basis on which the ******** was approved. Did they have to spruce up the entrance to Perth from the causeway or is it the same as the original render?
RocStar April 1st, 2007, 09:53 AM The old renders weren't that bad anyhow. Dilaz time to change it to Approved and I guess these 2 can be added to next months diagram:cheers:
I luv this part " A 'main st' running through the site parallel to Adelaide Tce and Hay St will feature bars, restaurants, cafes and a convenience store"..so Bangkok but without the stinck:lol:
Citystyle April 1st, 2007, 09:55 AM It's a n e w Design. But it's got only to do with the podiums and crap.
Dilaz89 April 1st, 2007, 12:28 PM That media release is old and was regarding the sale of the lots, not the development approval
Scribbler April 1st, 2007, 01:33 PM Here's the n e w piccies, they don't tell us much. (How annoying is having the word "n e w" censored, just by the way!)
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RocStar April 1st, 2007, 01:49 PM Thanks Scribbler. I think this project is shaping up better than what most have expected.
Scraperfan April 1st, 2007, 03:53 PM Looks nice thanks Scrib. Any idea when they plan to break ground?
Dilaz89 April 1st, 2007, 03:59 PM It has to be sometime this yar by law.
Scraperfan April 1st, 2007, 04:01 PM Thats great, thanks dude. Having this settled should allow further progress to be made on the river inlet component.
crave April 2nd, 2007, 08:16 AM why is new censored? :S
Bullswool April 2nd, 2007, 08:41 AM because practically everything on this forum has to do with new things. They obviously thought it was funny. However I did not.
chrisaus April 2nd, 2007, 11:53 AM 1-Mar-2007
Portfolio: Planning and Infrastructure
$180million investment to revamp Perth’s eastern end.
31/3/07
Perth’s eastern gateway will experience a radical transformation, with the East Perth Redevelopment Authority (EPRA) approving more than $180million of sustainable mixed-use development within the Queens Precinct of its Riverside urban renewal project.
EPRA sold the first six lots on the former Metrobus Depot site, bordered by Hay Street, Adelaide Terrace and the WA Police Headquarters, in May 2006 to Frasers Property and TRG Property Group for $20.2million.
Frasers Property’s plans for its four lots were recently approved by the EPRA, along with TRG’s plans for its two lots fronting Hay Street.
Planning and Infrastructure Minister Alannah MacTiernan said the innovative development planned for the Queens Precinct would be a benchmark for the next Riverside precincts to be released to the market.
“We are really pleased with the quality contemporary urban design that has been achieved for Riverside’s first stage,” Ms MacTiernan said.
“The six lots will provide 330 new apartments and townhouses and 11,320sq.m of commercial, retail and hospitality space, including Perth’s first five-star
180 suite serviced apartments, new cafes and convenience stores at the eastern end of our city.
“The three to 18-storey development will achieve high standards of environmental sustainability in emissions, water and energy conservation.
“As part of our affordability policy, the development will include 19 units.
“Perth’s eastern end will come alive with bars, restaurants, cafes and speciality retail stores along a new main street within the development, which will attract tourists and locals to the area.
“East Perth is a prime location that has much potential and we intend to ensure Queens Riverside is the catalyst set to transform the eastern end of East Perth into a vibrant urban precinct,” Dr Stanley Quek, chief executive officer of Frasers Property, said.
The TRG development on the two Hay Street lots will feature townhouses and apartments fronting the beautiful Queen’s Gardens up to four storeys. For further information, contact TRG Property Group on 9321 5932.
For further information about the Frasers development, contact 1300 668 183.
Construction on the six lots will commerce later this year, with development complete in 2010.
The EPRA’s 40ha Riverside project is transforming the under-utilised eastern end of Perth city by creating a new mixed-use inner urban community featuring world-class waterfront entertainment and sporting venues, new homes and commercial space on the banks of the beautiful Swan River.
For more information about Riverside, visit http://www.epra.wa.gov.au or contact EPRA on 1800 639 726.
Minister's office - 9213 6400
Bullswool April 2nd, 2007, 01:05 PM Woohoo, I dream of a 4 storey town house *druels*. hopefully when this is built we can have a tram running from east perth - CBD - foreshore - UWA. And also east perth - CBD - Subiaco AND foreshore - CBD - Shopping district :) - then along that road that goes to morley (can't remember the name) beufort street?.
Anyway a little off topic.
docker April 3rd, 2007, 07:44 PM to be honest i would of like to have seen each of these towers being about 30m taller each. so then when the two towers next to the causeway get built, they could be built to about 110m and not be too out of place. even though in the renders they area about the same hieght as these two currently. basicly what i am saying is that i would like more hieght in this area.
Citystyle April 3rd, 2007, 08:30 PM That would have been nice but im not comlaining, 60-70m is a nice hight. The area is going under renewl and the market is a tempered thing. Slow application of large buildings or faster application of average size buildings. The later is far better for city vibrancy.
CULWULLA April 4th, 2007, 12:03 AM dilaz, alot of your pics arent showing. i want to add these to diagrams but only see 1 drawing?
Dilaz89 April 4th, 2007, 04:20 AM they work now.
Dilaz89 June 8th, 2007, 12:20 PM There are now advertising boards on site. Should definently begin this year.
Dilaz89 June 8th, 2007, 12:31 PM East Perth is now the focus of a major urban revitalisation, designed to make the most of the area's naturally appealing riverside location.
Queens Riverside is located on the site of former Metrobus Depot, bordered by Hay Street and Adelaide Terrace, on the Swan River foreshore. With approval now granted for 288 apartments and townhouses, commercial space, a new retail precinct and a luxurious apartment hotel, Frasers Property will soon begin revolutionising this eastern end of the Perth CBD.
Designed by Jones Coulter Young, Queens Riverside is architecturally bold with a distinctive identity, intelligently designed to embrace views of the Swan River, the City and the Darling Ranges. Extending from three to 18 storeys across three interconnected buildings, Queens Riverside will set new standards for urban design in Perth while achieving high standards of environmental sustainability.
A defining part of the precinct will be Fraser Suites Perth, the first all-suite apartment hotel to be built in over 12 years in the area, and the second residence in Australia run by Frasers Hospitality.
The East Perth Redevelopment Authority's vision for the precinct imagines a new mixed-use inner urban community featuring world-class waterfront entertainment and sporting venues, new homes and commercial space on the banks of the beautiful Swan River. Queens Riverside will form an integral part of an urban village that will satisfy residents' daily needs, and provide exceptional facilities and outdoor areas where the choice is a vibrant entertainment lifestyle, a workplace close by or just to relax, stroll or cycle along the riverside or sit on lawn in one of the many parks and gardens.
It's a vision of an appealing and wonderfully convenient community with living benefits for residents and excellent potential for sustained growth.
Scraperfan June 8th, 2007, 02:24 PM sounds fancy but in reality its a bit of a let down. 3 story townhouses. hah! hardly a "vision".
Dilaz89 June 14th, 2007, 07:23 AM new marketing centre opening soon in the old nokia building, cnr of adelaide tce and plain streets. looks hot from what i've seen.
crave June 14th, 2007, 07:28 AM pics you ass... <3
Dilaz89 September 26th, 2007, 01:29 PM Went to the marketing centre yesterday. Formal marketing has not yet begun however foreward works are now underway and construction starts in March.
Also, a decent 3,000sqm of retail is included in the development.
RocStar September 26th, 2007, 03:39 PM Good to hear. I mean if I was the developer, I would be pissed off knowing what was on offer prior to the application. Of course, the Riverside redevelopment, which as we all know, has had a set back… For how long, who knows:ohno:
samboy September 26th, 2007, 04:51 PM what's happned to riverside?
Dilaz89 September 26th, 2007, 05:16 PM funding?
Perth4life September 26th, 2007, 05:20 PM is that why it's going so slow?
Ipggi September 27th, 2007, 12:51 AM Red tape and funding. It was/it backed by a developer based in Hong Kong, and this was the organisation's first project.
http://www.elanhotelsresorts.com/index.html
samboy September 27th, 2007, 02:06 AM I thought this was back in action. The crane had finally changed from its original position and there's another 'excavator'?
RocStar September 27th, 2007, 04:03 AM I was talking about Riverside redevelopment near waca/causeway. Elan is fine I believe.
Wasn't the inlet at Riverside meant to begin this year? No funding was allocated..grrr
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Perth4life September 27th, 2007, 05:45 AM i like Elan has some nice architecture
Scraperfan September 27th, 2007, 06:08 AM Yeh Elan looks terrific. Should really enhance that area of the foreshore and bring some much needed patronage and nightlife to Barrack Square - if it ever gets completed!
docker October 15th, 2007, 12:22 PM it looks like they were excavating the site because there were several large holes
Auxodium October 17th, 2007, 05:18 AM I welcome elan as they seem to provide designs that are different that the run of the mill designers
docker November 7th, 2007, 04:24 PM ok, let me get this straight, are these fraser buildings suppose to be the two blue buildings with 12 storeys restriction, which means we can get taller on the site of the purple blocks, or are these current towers in the purple 'icon' section.
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Dilaz89 November 7th, 2007, 04:29 PM Correct, those heights are just indicative of what should occur.
No height limit in Perth is binding unless the govt. or casa say so hence why I am constantly pissed off when height is knocked back in the suburbs or regional centres.
Perth4life November 8th, 2007, 03:19 PM i never realised this was the site for these towers, awesome.
Scraperfan November 9th, 2007, 03:11 AM 25 floors is not iconic though. this is what shits me. there should be one tower of 40 floors minimum.
docker November 9th, 2007, 03:17 AM i think when they say iconic they mean architecrualy like this one, rather then hieght.
http://www.riversideeastperth.com.au/NR/rdonlyres/6DDCB88B-FE0B-401F-992D-64F147F4C3BC/0/EntertainmentMixedUse.jpg
Scraperfan November 9th, 2007, 03:23 AM yeh true but we need a decent heiight tower at the very edge, considering at the west end we will have maximised the height. it would be a shame not to maximise height at the eastern extremity too. so that the skyline is balanced as much as it can be.
Dilaz89 November 9th, 2007, 03:26 AM remember epra is flexible and 25lvs could be 30 or more in reality.
crave November 9th, 2007, 04:22 AM i think when they say iconic they mean architecrualy like this one, rather then hieght.
http://www.riversideeastperth.com.au/NR/rdonlyres/6DDCB88B-FE0B-401F-992D-64F147F4C3BC/0/EntertainmentMixedUse.jpg
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if this is their vision for iconic... i'm seething with rage already... is what they've shown before for claisebrook and northbridge plans pretty much what's been given?
please no more white towers, by tha time all tha towers get up along east of cbd area... it's gonnabe white white white... surely they must take this into consideration for gateway towers into tha city!
Dilaz89 November 9th, 2007, 04:26 AM no crave, they are just concepts that erpa churn out to give an indiation. Ofcourse the designs are going to be better than that.
Scraperfan November 9th, 2007, 04:41 AM its like the concept we got for 140william, in reality its a lot better, yet still similar height, hmm...
Dilaz89 November 9th, 2007, 04:42 AM The concept for 140w was only around the 60m mark. It turned out considerably higher and better design.
Scraperfan November 9th, 2007, 04:45 AM i stand corrected :)
40 floors of fucking nothing for me hey. grow some balls and think big. go for growth lol.
samboy November 9th, 2007, 05:29 AM the term iconic in perth means .... as opposed to a hole in the ground.
crave November 9th, 2007, 05:29 AM thanks for tha reassurance b.
it's just that looking at those pics and i can see mass expanses of white concrete walls on at least two of these iconic towers worries me a little... people should really pay more attention to small detail...
anyway i feel frustrated today. i'm going to exit for tha w/end soon...
Dilaz89 November 11th, 2007, 01:04 PM http://www.hartree.com.au/Images/4.29hamriverside1.jpg
http://www.hartree.com.au/Images/4.29hamriverside3.jpg
http://www.hartree.com.au/Images/4.29hamriverside2.jpg
Direwolf November 11th, 2007, 01:37 PM where did these models come from? They don't look bad the interior light ones would be better if the light wasn't so bright, more realistic.
chrisaus November 11th, 2007, 01:38 PM I hope there is a major supermarket at this one, there is now an IGA on royal street but would be nice for a full line in this growing residential end of town
crave November 11th, 2007, 10:47 PM hmm.
tbor November 12th, 2007, 01:12 AM More of the same for East Perth, ho hum.
I'm getting a little tired of bland blobs, not even bland+tall does it for me anymore.
Perth4life November 12th, 2007, 07:52 AM wow i like them
crave November 12th, 2007, 08:40 AM :S
chrisaus November 12th, 2007, 09:28 AM The project has a dining precint and 3000 sq m of retail
KamikazeTaxi November 12th, 2007, 09:31 AM They look ok. And they are serving a good purpose....
PD November 14th, 2007, 01:32 AM They have actually started construction on the apartments/townhouses that are facing hay street.
So at least the queens precinct is UC.
Girlyman November 14th, 2007, 02:32 AM 3000 retail? Please let it be a proper supermarket.
Dilaz89 November 28th, 2007, 07:01 AM 21/11/2007 10 Adelaide Terrace
EAST PERTH WA 6004
FORWARD WORKS - 4
to 18 Storey Mixed Use
Residential/Retail/Restaur
ant/Hotel Development
with Basement Car
Parking.
5,000,000.00 BA 2007/510 EPRA DA
06-25
chrisaus December 12th, 2007, 07:41 AM 10 Adelaide Terrace
EAST PERTH WA 6004
Signage on Construction
site hoarding
0.00 DA
Dilaz89 February 20th, 2008, 09:18 AM forward works complete, construction slated for next month-
http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/6721/img5415zd2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
perthgazer February 20th, 2008, 09:20 AM 19/02/2008 10 Adelaide Terrace
EAST PERTH WA 6004
4 to 18 Storey Mixed Use
Residential/Retail/Restaurant/Hotel
Development with Basement Car
Parking.
95,000,000.00 BA 2008/62 EPRA 06-2544
Dilaz89 April 16th, 2008, 09:52 AM Drove past tody and it looks as if excavations have begun. Can anyone confirm that the project is uc?
tayls84 April 16th, 2008, 01:33 PM Think it's still just forward works.
finn April 17th, 2008, 04:00 AM 3000 retail? Please let it be a proper supermarket.
I'm pretty sure a Coles supermarket is going in there.
docker April 20th, 2008, 03:17 PM still shit all...
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Scraperfan April 20th, 2008, 03:22 PM I cant get excited about this entire metrobus site hey. Its just such a shitty scale development on what should be topping 100m.
Dilaz89 April 20th, 2008, 04:31 PM I think its a good development.
It looks like something is happening on site too.
docker April 20th, 2008, 04:32 PM ^^ wouldn't it just be forward works
Dilaz89 April 20th, 2008, 04:43 PM if i remember rightly forward works commenced oct last year and finished in jan. I was told a march start on the project by Frasers and the BA was in months ago.
Auxodium April 20th, 2008, 10:26 PM i do remember the early stages they were wanting (EPRA) 100m plus buildings here.
docker May 5th, 2008, 02:58 PM http://www.queensriverside.com.au/fpg/queens_riverside.html
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we have pile drilling
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Dilaz89 May 5th, 2008, 03:12 PM i guess they are all go now. Strange that they havnt sold any apartments yet.
AndyGM May 5th, 2008, 03:57 PM isn't it short stay?
Dilaz89 May 5th, 2008, 04:05 PM 50/50
Direwolf May 6th, 2008, 12:46 PM Does this mean that it should be considered U/c now.
Short stay is that like a hotel?
Could help relieve hotel shortage. http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/05/06/2237222.htm
though a larger hotel development eg treasury would also be good. :)
tayls84 May 7th, 2008, 06:53 AM There is a fairly large temporary crane on site today. Not sure what it's for...
BNE QLD May 10th, 2008, 01:13 PM Walked past this about 3:30pm today not much going on, I think this belongs here.
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p300/IFB83/18storycomplex1.jpg
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BNE QLD May 10th, 2008, 01:19 PM Is this building part of this development too?
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p300/IFB83/18storycomplex4.jpg
Lol across behind this site is a park, there were some drunks in there carring on loudy, hopefully when this is complete, they will move on.
Hossen27 May 10th, 2008, 01:23 PM ^^
lol
there is always lots of homeless people in queens park. I remember at my sisters wedding there was a homeless guy on a park bench right behind where she was standing. So funny he is in so many of the pictures
Dilaz89 May 14th, 2008, 05:07 AM 09/05/2008 10 Adelaide Terrace
EAST PERTH WA 6004
Basement Level B2, B1 &
Ground Structural Works
0.00 BA 2008/62 1
perthgazer May 14th, 2008, 05:10 AM Theres a new render of the the Frasers towers in today West Property section
Dilaz89 May 14th, 2008, 05:13 AM pics of stfu :P
scan anyone?
nazor May 14th, 2008, 05:14 AM yeah it looks kinder modern but still very blocky ... has some glass ...
Scraperfan May 14th, 2008, 06:32 AM fucks sake.
im so going to have to get the start getting the west delivered. ...about to look into subscription prices.
Swan May 14th, 2008, 06:42 AM http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/2610/fraser1or8.jpg
http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/6449/fraser2qw2.jpg
Scraperfan May 14th, 2008, 06:50 AM Firstly, thankyou very much mr swan (and no not the goofy treasurer, i can now thank him for a higher private insurance premium next year).
I think that looks terrible, i liked the gold triagular roof of the original.
Anyone heard of the term Crapartment? Heard that the other day and I think it fits this building well. :)
perthgazer May 14th, 2008, 07:00 AM It looks very 'Mirvac'
ryan79 May 14th, 2008, 07:04 AM So many of these style apartments everywhere already. Are we willing to scrafice quality for quanitity though?
Why can't they add a bit of style to these things. East Perth is going to look so white in 15 years.
Auxodium May 14th, 2008, 07:26 AM i dont remember the look of the original.
Scraperfan May 14th, 2008, 07:30 AM It looks very 'Mirvac'
no kidding, this looks just like the peninsula towers = yuck.
saville and saracen are my 2 favourite developers for their consistent quality architecture and large scale, bold projects.
samboy May 14th, 2008, 07:39 AM look on the bright side, we're getting a 'melbourne style eat street' whatever that means.
Auxodium May 14th, 2008, 07:42 AM i love how developers here try to sell it to barry bogan and co and the description is an extremely ambiguous one.
dallastexjr May 14th, 2008, 01:50 PM It's pretty generic but I don't mind the design. Looks a bit like the CityWest development. Yet more high-end apartments, like we don't have enough going in the city already.
PD May 16th, 2008, 04:50 AM no kidding, this looks just like the peninsula towers = yuck.
saville and saracen are my 2 favourite developers for their consistent quality architecture and large scale, bold projects.
I would say that these look worse than the peninsula towere.
They seem to have some sort of 60's bland feel to them.
Ari Gold May 16th, 2008, 05:45 AM I much prefer the old render.
Homeroids May 16th, 2008, 05:58 AM More blandness and architectural mediocrity, if you ask me. At least there seems to be some mandate and will power with the Waterfront to ensure a better architectural quality. But what happens when you try to be progressive. City Vision come out and cut you to shreds.
This development here, I bet, fits in nicely with City Visions mandate. Boring and bland.
Scraperfan May 16th, 2008, 06:02 AM Can someone dig out the old render please and put the new one next to it?
tayls84 May 16th, 2008, 06:08 AM pics
http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/3448/img3199im3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
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Old. No better in my opinion.
tayls84 May 16th, 2008, 06:10 AM http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/2610/fraser1or8.jpg
New.
Scraperfan May 16th, 2008, 06:18 AM Actually, the tallest of the old one was 17 floors, now it is 23 + the top feature (2 floors).
Yeh I guess on reflection it isnt too bad. I was probably just being romantic in my mind about the old render.
NOTE TO MODS - The heights in the thread title will need updating, these may be near 80+85m now.
AndyGM May 16th, 2008, 06:32 AM 23+roof is actually not too bad that far down the end of the city. That'll be about the height of Condor.
Auxodium May 16th, 2008, 09:48 AM where is the Melbourne style 'eat street' in those drawings? :p ;)
PD May 19th, 2008, 03:29 AM HAahaha.
'BOLD NEW LOOK"
crave May 19th, 2008, 03:44 AM HAahaha.
'BOLD NEW LOOK"
so bold.
http://www.teknoscape.com.au/forums/images/smilies/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif
desperaterobots May 19th, 2008, 08:35 AM Why do I like them so much? They're just boxes. But... they look nice? Looks like lots of glass I guess.
Auxodium May 19th, 2008, 08:41 AM well there are a few developments in canberra that looks god awful in the renders but look great in reality. i have a feeling this will be the case. (i want it to be the case)
Dilaz89 May 19th, 2008, 08:41 AM I liked the angled roof feature. They should have kept it.
Citystyle May 21st, 2008, 12:21 PM I liked the angled roof feature. They should have kept it.
Really? I prefer exposed Core Boxes. :lol:
docker May 28th, 2008, 03:45 PM http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/6184/p1020666copynu2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
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docker June 1st, 2008, 05:00 PM http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3254/2541682046_18fd19bb8d_o.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2365/2541683318_3476173957_o.jpg
Dilaz89 June 13th, 2008, 10:57 AM http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/2853/img5826pl3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
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docker June 19th, 2008, 06:31 PM cement trucks
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docker June 29th, 2008, 05:27 PM when i was on the bus going to the footy, i saw several sections on the east side taped off, i think this may get serious in the next month, or so i hope.
:hi:
Docker do your thing please .. :)
fraser
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Direwolf June 30th, 2008, 02:48 AM looks like still a fair bit of piling to go
docker August 15th, 2008, 04:15 PM fraser
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Australiasia August 16th, 2008, 03:04 PM :dance2: Why not some architectural marvel?
Considering this is the gateway to Perth City,
It would be far better for the Architects to have the wow factor this would only enhance their company and make it even more attractive to the investor’s.
Skyline Art August 16th, 2008, 05:33 PM That building in the background with the shape of the spier on top reminds me of Canberra's Parliament House a little bit... :lol: just the top part and partly the curve in the building..
Yes I agree with Australiasia; why doesn't the architect, developer create something with a little bit of the wow factor for the site?
Direwolf August 17th, 2008, 05:49 AM [QUOTE=Skyline Art;24084918]That building in the background with the shape of the spier on top reminds me of Canberra's Parliament House a little bit... :lol: just the top part and partly the curve in the building..
You mean Police HQ that is a radio mast.
I have heard that the police are looking to move or at least upgrade as although I think the police building is quite attractive it is inadequate inside due to its age.
I agree it would be nice to have a striking architectural landmark on the eastern gateway to Perth but I think the best chance is the east Perth waterfront and not so much apartment buildings.
docker September 15th, 2008, 06:35 PM http://img362.imageshack.us/img362/9762/p1020218copybx3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
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chrisaus September 16th, 2008, 03:36 AM riverside is a pathetic excuse for a renewal... so fucking slow...
Skyline Art September 17th, 2008, 03:52 AM Is this a staged development? (If the rear are part of the site)? Perhaps the rear buildings are supposed to be completed first, before they start on the other side (the riverend)????
Scraperfan September 17th, 2008, 03:54 AM i think the taller riverfront towers were delayed due to a design review.
chrisaus September 18th, 2008, 05:23 AM epra have gone off the boil since the east perth cove, new northbridge is pretty fucking average and the rest of their projects have been stalled due to no funding.
Johnvb September 18th, 2008, 05:38 AM Yes I agree, we really have not heard much about riverside. These 'landmark' towers are not at all what I expected.. Our course EPRA have still had the funds to get a lovely new office though ;)
Cygnet September 20th, 2008, 05:21 PM Yes I agree, we really have not heard much about riverside. These 'landmark' towers are not at all what I expected.. Our course EPRA have still had the funds to get a lovely new office though ;)
Where is the new office?
Johnvb September 21st, 2008, 01:06 PM The one in northbridge.. think it used to be a bakery maybe? On Money st
docker September 28th, 2008, 05:33 AM ok considering the Fraser development is part of the larger Riverside redevelopment, this thread can be for the entire project, similar to the perth waterfront or the Link threads.
http://www.riversideeastperth.com.au/Riverside/NewsEventsAndPublications/MediaReleases/Riverside+development+to+transform+Perth+CBD%E2%80%99s+eastern+end.htm
Riverside development to transform Perth CBD’s eastern end
1 May 2008
The eastern end of Perth’s CBD will undergo a massive transformation, with housing for 5,846 residents and commercial space for 1,704 workers as part of a projected $880million investment by the State Government and private sector.
Significant revisions of the 2004 Riverside Masterplan (formerly called Gateway) were announced today by Planning and Infrastructure Minister Alannah MacTiernan.
Ms MacTiernan said the development, which includes proposals from the Western Australian Cricket Association (WACA), Western Australian Trotting Association (WATA) and Trinity College, is a reflection of Perth’s growing confidence.
“The urban intensity offered through Riverside will help bring our eastern gateway alive,” she said.
“The Masterplan review advocates a more flexible approach to height and density to meet the demand for inner city living, re-energise the eastern end of our city and better activate the edges of the Swan River.
" This builds on the activity already underway in the Riverside redevelopment, with 334 new apartments under construction within the Queens Precinct bordered by Hay Street, Adelaide Terrace and the WA Police Headquarters.
“You need a critical mass of residents and workers to create a hum on the street - the revisions to the Riverside Masterplan are mindful of this.”
For areas yet to be developed, the review recommends street-level podium buildings of up to six levels, with taller elements up to 20 storeys set back from street edges to preserve solar access and key view corridors.
Ms MacTiernan said the reviewed Masterplan will give a new momentum to the planned WACA redevelopment, as well as the WA Trotting Association’s (WATA) proposal to extend the track at Gloucester Park and put residential apartments on its fringes.
“I’m particularly pleased that cricket and trotting will be staying in the area – and this plan will help them do this while at the same time provide them with some development opportunities on the edge of their land,” she said.
“These activities will continue to attract a broad cross section of the WA community, ensuring this remains a socially inclusive area.”
Perth MLA John Hyde welcomed the reviewed Masterplan.
“I’m glad the plans allow for the future development of Trinity College, which for more than 40 years has influenced the character and history of Perth CBD’s eastern end,” Mr Hyde said.
Trinity College is currently undertaking a strategic analysis of its long term development plans.
The Riverside redevelopment is being delivered by the East Perth Redevelopment Authority in collaboration with the City of Perth, WACA, WATA and Trinity College.
“The Riverside Masterplan review incorporates the results of engagement with landowners and stakeholders over the past 18 months and responds to population growth projections, changing demographics and sustainability opportunities since it was released in 2004 as the Gateway Masterplan,” the Minister said.
Ms MacTiernan said that the review also identified a need for continued focus on sustainable development outcomes and innovation. Developments at Riverside will be required to incorporate new technologies for heating and cooling; use energy efficient materials; further minimise, recycle and reuse energy, waste and water; protect the area’s unique biodiversity and increase the use of public transport, walking and cycling.
“The most noticeable change in the Masterplan review are at the Waterbank precinct,” the Minister said.
“We have effectively reversed the layout of Waterbank’s waterway and buildings in response to detailed geotechnical and planning investigations and incorporated water reuse, energy saving and waste disposal initiatives on a scale never before adopted in Perth.
“Waterbank will have tremendous community and public facilities that will make the most of being on the banks of the Swan River.”
The first Riverside residents are due to move into the Queens precinct in 2009. The Waterbank precinct is expected to be developed next and its scheme amendment and design guidelines will be available for public comment mid-year. Detailed planning for the remaining Riverside precincts will be finalised in early 2009.
Riverside is expected to involve an investment of up to $130million by the East Perth Redevelopment Authority and approximately $750million in flow-on investment by the private sector. Riverside will create more than 3,400 new residences, including about 230 affordable dwellings, for approximately 5,800 residents. Approximately 1,700 new employees will work at Riverside.
The Riverside Masterplan Review will be released for a 50-day period of key stakeholder comment.
Minister's office - 9213 6400
http://www.placeleaders.com/images/epra/riverside06.jpg
TRINITY RESERVE, (LOT 500) TRINITY AVENUE AND PART OF HAY
STREET AND CAUSEWAY RESERVES, EAST PERTH - PROPOSED
FORWARD WORKS FOR THE WATERBANK PRECINCT
RECOMMENDATION: (APPROVAL)
http://perth.wa.gov.au/documentdb/988.pdf
Click79 September 28th, 2008, 06:11 AM Dammit! I liked the previous plan much more. Oh well...
[Edit] Where did that pic come from?
Johnvb September 28th, 2008, 01:17 PM I actually like that new picture, we have never seen it before. I think this project really needs to have big aspirations and not a watered down pathetic project which I have suspicions it will be turned into :(
Sanj September 28th, 2008, 02:27 PM im pretty sure that pic was posted a while back, ive definitely seen it before.
desperaterobots September 29th, 2008, 05:55 AM Yes, we all made comments about the space age pod in the middle there. Maybe they expect David Bowie to make a visit?
acc521 September 29th, 2008, 11:15 AM maybe Ziggy Stardust or Major Tom?
city_thing September 29th, 2008, 11:37 AM Or even Major Tom.....
WCG September 30th, 2008, 03:45 AM I quite like that new picture oo- doesnt look very dense though. Wish theyd put another underground station here!!!!
desperaterobots September 30th, 2008, 04:41 AM Trams. It needs tramssssss.
docker September 30th, 2008, 05:27 PM http://www.placeleaders.com/images/epra/riverside06.jpg
just thinking about it, this tower to the far left is only 20 storeys in the render, but the site is proposed to be 30st max...
so i am thinking that the EPRA learnt from Landcorps mistake with the waterfront, and decided to show a smaller building to make it easier to progress.
i also find it interesting that it seems to be so much easier for the EPRA to get this project and INLET through the process with little comment from some commentators *Hardy* unlike Landcorp with their inlet in the waterfront plan.
Dilaz89 September 30th, 2008, 05:48 PM they did the same thing with the NB link renders.
dallastexjr October 1st, 2008, 04:23 PM It's all about the view from King's Park. Perth people (including councillors and pollies) seem obsessed by it, which is what that whole stoopid East/West ridgeline crock-of-shit was all about. Christ, they have to let it go already. It's just a view - Perth's location ensures it will always be an attractive river-fronted city, regardless of what's built (Seidler-inspired commie block creations excepted...)
gotime October 1st, 2008, 08:14 PM the river, together with the railway lines, are the enemy of density in perth. the skyline sprawls from kings park to the waca along two blocks. it'll be many years before perth's skyline will resemble anything but the gold coasts
WCG October 2nd, 2008, 04:39 AM Go, y do u see them as the enemy to density in Perth? I see the rail as a hinderance to flow, ut the enemy to ensity has been the people themselves...
Sanj October 2nd, 2008, 04:43 AM the river, together with the railway lines, are the enemy of density in perth. the skyline sprawls from kings park to the waca along two blocks. it'll be many years before perth's skyline will resemble anything but the gold coasts
im not a big fan of the gold coast at all. fair enough it has some tall buildings but not a fan of the vibe there.
aaronaugi1 October 2nd, 2008, 05:25 AM im not a big fan of the gold coast at all. fair enough it has some tall buildings but not a fan of the vibe there.
I actually found the street vibe to be quite nice. Even in the early morning.
acc521 October 2nd, 2008, 06:25 AM I thought the GC vibe was pretty cool. Chilled but busy at the same time. Maybe that's just because it was new years though.
Sanj October 2nd, 2008, 06:37 AM i just found GC tacky.
probably just me tho.
desperaterobots October 2nd, 2008, 06:51 AM Nah, same. It was like stepping back in time, and into an alternate universe, where Opals were the worlds most abundant resource yet somehow still attracted huge pricetags.
gotime October 2nd, 2008, 07:57 AM oh. sorry misunderstanding. i wasn't praising the gold coast skyline. just saying perth's skyline resembles it ie. a long thin skyline following the waterfront.
river views and the associated pricetags mean that perth has naturally spread in such a way, rather than become dense like say, brisbane (due to its natural setting) or adelaide (due to its planned parklands)
docker October 20th, 2008, 01:39 PM http://img355.imageshack.us/img355/4236/p1020401copyug0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
perthgazer October 20th, 2008, 02:25 PM http://www.jcy.net/
http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/2018/frasersph5.jpg
Dilaz89 October 20th, 2008, 02:32 PM The frasers development looks pretty impressive in that render. I just hope the street frontages are interesting.
docker October 20th, 2008, 02:47 PM http://www.jcy.net/
http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/2018/frasersph5.jpg
those are looking pretty good, better than the previous two designs.
which actually reminds me, when i was walking past the site there was a group of officials, and they were talking about it taking a couple of weeks to get the engineers down to do something, seems they might of hit a slight snag here
Scrawny October 20th, 2008, 02:50 PM Betcha it's something to do with groundwater. :)
Skyline Art October 20th, 2008, 03:15 PM http://img355.imageshack.us/img355/4236/p1020401copyug0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
What are those blank wall buildings to the North?
If they front this development the street activation to the North won't be very good at all, let alone the people who would have a view of a blank wall.
They should paint murals on them, like they do in Tassie, they can then be added tourist attractions too if they are good enough:
http://www.smh.com.au/news/Tasmania/Sheffield/2005/02/17/1108500205951.html
Why is this development taking so long? To me it looks like they have only gone so far as to build a wall around the perimeter....
chrisaus October 20th, 2008, 03:29 PM that looks sweet, but im seriously pissed off how slow this renewal is, EPRA have turned to shit after claisebrook cove, no thanks to the ALP stripping their budget year by year.
docker October 20th, 2008, 03:46 PM What are those blank wall buildings to the North?
If they front this development the street activation to the North won't be very good at all, let alone the people who would have a view of a blank wall.
They should paint murals on them, like they do in Tassie, they can then be added tourist attractions too if they are good enough:
http://www.smh.com.au/news/Tasmania/Sheffield/2005/02/17/1108500205951.html
Why is this development taking so long? To me it looks like they have only gone so far as to build a wall around the perimeter....
they are part of the same development, they are some smaller buildings, fronting onto Hay Street. you can see them in the back of the render perthgazer posted
Dilaz89 October 20th, 2008, 03:51 PM Remember that the ALP funded the years and years of planning for these projects and as such they are ready to go when they get funding.
The next stage of Riverside got $10m for one year of works in May.
Why are you so overly cynical of everything?
chrisaus October 20th, 2008, 04:31 PM because im going grey waiting for this to happen
RocStar October 20th, 2008, 05:00 PM In the words of our darling Lisa “Would it kill anyone to have these projects fast tracked”
Dilaz89 October 20th, 2008, 05:55 PM It lies with the Liberals now. They are required to buy up all the carparks near the WACA for the next stage to proceed.
sandgroperinuk October 20th, 2008, 08:32 PM The blank walls is/was the Dpt of Mines.
Whats happening with the old Homeswest building when they all move to 140 William?
Cygnet October 21st, 2008, 04:49 AM What are those blank wall buildings to the North?
If they front this development the street activation to the North won't be very good at all, let alone the people who would have a view of a blank wall.
They should paint murals on them...
Absolutely. That monstrosity is screaming out for murals more loudly than any other building in Perth I can think of. I've been meaning to take a photo of it to share at an FP meeting.
It's called "Minerals House," and as Sangroperinuk pointed out, is home to the Department of Industry and Resources. To make matters worse, the side fronting Plain Street is just as blank! Presumably they were avoiding windows on the west side to avoid afternoon heat buildup or something.
It's either a shocking disgrace or an incredible public art opportunity, depending on your outlook. :) Does anyone know if the government actually owns it, or just leases it?
Edit: By the way, that photo is looking west, not north. WNW, if you want to be precise.
Scraperfan October 21st, 2008, 05:30 AM http://www.jcy.net/
http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/2018/frasersph5.jpg
looks pretty good but the renders remind me of the glossy looking peninsula renders that had much more reflection put on the renders.
In reality, without the glassiness, they look shit.
These look to be in danger of being the same.
Sanj October 21st, 2008, 05:34 AM wow, anyone notice the lack of proof reading?
"comprising 2 eight stiry"
stiry?
aaronaugi1 October 21st, 2008, 05:38 AM looks pretty good but the renders remind me of the glossy looking peninsula renders that had much more reflection put on the renders.
In reality, without the glassiness, they look shit.
These look to be in danger of being the same.
its a step forward, shinny or not. They aren't the Finbar "fridge" as Sanj would describe we're used to in the past. For some reason it reminds me of Brisbane or Docklands.
crave October 21st, 2008, 06:17 AM i like, but one tower needs to be a little taller and also, it would be nice if they linked tha design together...
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a206/crave1980/frasersph5.jpg
perthgazer November 26th, 2008, 06:41 AM http://images.watoday.com.au/2008/11/26/303629/gallery%20waca11.jpg
http://images.watoday.com.au/2008/11/26/303627/gallery%20waca10.jpg
http://images.watoday.com.au/2008/11/26/303625/gallery%20waca9.jpg
http://images.watoday.com.au/2008/11/26/303630/gallery%20waca12.jpg
http://images.watoday.com.au/2008/11/26/303633/gallery%20waca13.jpg
http://images.watoday.com.au/2008/11/26/303634/gallery%20waca14.jpg
http://images.watoday.com.au/2008/11/26/303636/gallery%20waca15.jpg
http://www.watoday.com.au/photogallery/wa-news/new-waca-ground-development-unveiled/20081126-6i90.html
Dilaz89 November 26th, 2008, 06:50 AM I'm impressed. There will be over 30 buildings 12lv plus!
This is the kind of density Perth needs for a critical mass of people.
Scraperfan November 26th, 2008, 06:54 AM when you see the veins of built areas in between the waca, trinity oval and gloucester, it suddenly makes the area so unsterile than if these civic buildings were removed. should be a very lively area.
crave November 26th, 2008, 07:02 AM eeer!
dense.
this is good... tha podiums will make it ground areas seem really dense and built...
noice.
desperaterobots November 26th, 2008, 07:04 AM Looks good!
ryan79 November 26th, 2008, 07:35 AM I find it so hard to believe that this will happen.
With the current financial crisis and property slump.
desperaterobots November 26th, 2008, 07:43 AM Even if it doesn't happen rapidly, it's a good plan.
ryan79 November 26th, 2008, 07:49 AM I definitely like it. It is very much needed.
Maybe Perth will be the saviour for a few companies who can still make a bit of cash out of us.
Cygnet November 26th, 2008, 08:07 AM http://images.watoday.com.au/2008/11/26/303629/gallery%20waca11.jpg
^^ What is the large, low-rise building right on the water's edge (lower-left of image) intended to be?
Scraperfan November 26th, 2008, 08:10 AM apartments and restaurants.
in between the three fingers, theres water and boardwalks, just cant see that from this angle, but an indicative map would show it.
Dilaz89 November 26th, 2008, 08:12 AM I find it so hard to believe that this will happen.
With the current financial crisis and property slump.
This goes well beyond the economic and political cycles.
Scraperfan November 26th, 2008, 08:13 AM as all good planning should.
one idea ive had is for trinity to give up its oval for development and come to an agreement to use the waca ground oval for their sports.
desperaterobots November 26th, 2008, 08:16 AM Highschool students on an international cricket ground? lolz.
city_thing November 26th, 2008, 08:29 AM I find it so hard to believe that this will happen.
With the current financial crisis and property slump.
Amen.
This goes well beyond the economic and political cycles.
I wish I could have your confidence. I don't see how his is possible considering the economic climate. If this is a 20 year plan, then sure. But for now there wouldn't be enough monetary incentive to get investors and builders behind the scheme.
Either way, it's a good plan. Should have been implemented 10 years ago though.
perthgazer November 26th, 2008, 08:35 AM see pg 14 of this document for latest map
http://www.riversideeastperth.com.au/NR/rdonlyres/62117ABF-F60A-4A4F-A8E8-2E250AF436DC/0/WaterbankdraftDesignGuidelines.pdf
samboy November 26th, 2008, 08:36 AM Strangely (for me) I think this will happen and yes it's more of a 20 year plan. They'll build it gradually as long as there's demand and I'm pretty sure despite all the doom and gloom there's always going to be demand for housing in Perth. As long as it priced reasonably (and the market would take care of that) it'll be a goer. Don't underestimate the HUGE novelty aspect of the ones on the WACA. I reckon they'd sell like hotcakes.
Also don't forget we're currently swept up with the hysteria of the global meltdown and noone can really predict what'll happen in Australia. It's not unlikely that we'll avoid a recession and just need some time for the 'pessimism' to flush through the system.
PD November 26th, 2008, 08:47 AM Highschool students on an international cricket ground? lolz.
Nothings too good for trinity students. :lol:
desperaterobots November 26th, 2008, 09:09 AM I like the idea of lots of highschool girls complaining about PMS to avoid playing sport on grounds that lots of boys would probably hurt each other to play on.
crave November 26th, 2008, 10:07 AM I find it so hard to believe that this will happen.
With the current financial crisis and property slump.
as you say ryan... current.
Auxodium November 26th, 2008, 11:48 AM SF is on the warpath!
Auxodium November 26th, 2008, 12:02 PM brilliant however there is stiil too much lowrise for such a prime site...
ryan79 November 27th, 2008, 01:37 AM I suppose this is more of a government pushed renewal of an area than just a development. East Perth was renewed during a massive lull in Perth property. You could in there for 300k!
Urbania November 27th, 2008, 06:07 AM Looks good. This is exactly the kind of thing we need to create all over the metro area!
Dilaz89 November 27th, 2008, 09:03 AM I have some good news regarding Frasers.
The first building is going to be launched in a couple of weeks and they are expecting decent demand. I has a look at a 2bdrm display apartment at thier offices and I must say they are well planned and spacious. They are similar to the Mirvac Peninsular apartments but have better balconies and higher floor-ceiling height. Construction will be completed by the end of 2010.
The bad news is the rest of the development is staged (urgh) with the next building to be the hotel fronting Adelaide Terrace followed by the other 8lv apartment building and lastly the tall residential building. Won't be fully complete until 2013.
desperaterobots November 27th, 2008, 09:06 AM I want one. Damn my useless job!
Citystyle November 28th, 2008, 01:12 PM This goes well beyond the economic and political cycles.
As all good urban planning should. I also want to see the day when the council turns down buildings because they are to small and don't fit in with the long term vision for the city.
docker November 30th, 2008, 01:32 AM http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/4804/image001af3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Scraperfan November 30th, 2008, 11:37 AM i think FP needs to officially respond to this stuff.
Dilaz89 November 30th, 2008, 02:05 PM I will bring it up at the next meeting.
docker December 15th, 2008, 09:02 AM Fraser...
http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/9128/p1020836copydb3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
GOR@N December 15th, 2008, 09:53 AM hmmmmm 2 years and still piles of sand ... progres man!
Dilaz89 December 16th, 2008, 05:18 AM the first building begins in the new year.
GOR@N December 16th, 2008, 10:13 AM any1 know the heights of anythig on this site?
docker December 16th, 2008, 01:14 PM ^^ just look at the first post
GOR@N December 16th, 2008, 03:45 PM is this the site for fraser towers?
docker December 16th, 2008, 03:47 PM yes
GOR@N December 16th, 2008, 03:52 PM ah i see. thought they had/should have their own thread. not that short for it not to have it ... tho keep it in here for now tho.
BartBart January 14th, 2009, 12:13 PM Not sure if this has been posted (just over 2MB pdf file):
http://www.riversideeastperth.com.au/NR/rdonlyres/E2D03A4D-4324-4B2B-BB91-8E4EF687322A/0/20081223RRiversideMasterPlanReviewv1final.pdf
Found it searching for something else. Apologies if it is already somewhere in the thread.
edit: just noticed that a link to a newer version (Nov) as opposed to this one (Aug) was posted 2 pages back.
docker February 15th, 2009, 11:37 AM does anyone know how this project has escaped barnetts hands? is it because it is too low key of a project unlike the stadium or link or foreshore, or is it because it is already too far advanced?
BartBart February 15th, 2009, 12:02 PM He might know anything about it.
ryan79 February 15th, 2009, 12:14 PM Keep forgetting this happening. Will be an awesome project.
Does amaze me no ones whinging about picnic spots being taken away from there.
BartBart February 25th, 2009, 11:00 AM I noticed today the buildings on Frasers (smaller ones facing Queens Park, since the bigger ones haven't started yet) are starting to have the scaffolding removed. Also the sign in front of the WACA says the comments for EPRA re: buildings on the north-east corner of the WACA closed yesterday.
perthgazer February 28th, 2009, 06:04 AM Q1 now on sale - smaller mixed building at the back - 76 apartments
http://www.queensriverside.com.au/queensriverside/
new renders and info on the site
samboy February 28th, 2009, 08:08 AM I think they're really trying which is not bad for perth but I find the website a little irritating.
dallastexjr February 28th, 2009, 08:16 AM There's no renders on their dumbass website. The rest is bluuuuurb.
jarkti February 28th, 2009, 08:24 AM i found renders, ill print screen them seeing as i cant save them. :D
jarkti February 28th, 2009, 08:33 AM Theres lots if you just go to Options on the list then pick one of them of the new list that pops out and yeah youll get the jist of it :D
http://i39.tinypic.com/imm9lg.jpg
http://i43.tinypic.com/4u6zk8.jpg
http://i41.tinypic.com/15y6hye.jpg
http://i42.tinypic.com/33x7c09.jpg
crave February 28th, 2009, 09:00 AM hmm.
dallastexjr February 28th, 2009, 09:02 AM Thanx for that incredibly insightful comment, crave lol.
Dilaz89 February 28th, 2009, 10:18 AM it looks like the towers have been revised up from 18 levels.
dallastexjr March 1st, 2009, 01:47 AM Are those towers final designs, do you think, or generic renders?
crave March 1st, 2009, 04:07 AM Theres lots if you just go to Options on the list then pick one of them of the new list that pops out and yeah youll get the jist of it :D
http://i43.tinypic.com/4u6zk8.jpg
if tha pics above are new, then it looks like they've decided to bland it up... yay perth... they gone for height at tha expense of something interesting.
http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/2018/frasersph5.jpg
BartBart March 1st, 2009, 05:04 AM Is it just me, or does that grassed area in the last render look wrong? (as in, I assume it is meant to be Ozone Reserve, so the road between the buildings and the grass looks tiny, etc)
JWPJ March 1st, 2009, 06:10 AM "2 eight stiry"?
Urbania March 1st, 2009, 09:28 AM 22 stories now?
GOR@N March 1st, 2009, 12:15 PM the people in the renders havent changed lol.
both designs look good to me.
crave March 1st, 2009, 12:28 PM sorry to do this but those renders remind me of this... it would appear east perth tower designs are spreading like some noxious foreign weed.
http://i43.tinypic.com/4u6zk8.jpg
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/8406/p1020839copyey0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
GOR@N March 1st, 2009, 03:27 PM wow my very thought but was lasy to write it. the back of the tallest in the new render looks just like ^^ one.
BartBart March 1st, 2009, 03:32 PM Well, at least the Frasers ones are using white as a point of difference.[/sarcasm]
desperaterobots March 2nd, 2009, 03:12 AM The apartments in Q look really awesome. Good floor plans.
Dilaz89 March 2nd, 2009, 04:01 AM the balcony areas are really something different to what most developments have provided. They are more of an outdoor room than traditional balconies and i hope its a good selling point.
Sanj March 2nd, 2009, 05:08 AM the renders of the smaller balconies remind me of the winter gardens that freshwater place has and also are in the treasury development in east melbourne being done by becton (the terraced houses next to one east melbourne).
BartBart March 9th, 2009, 03:03 AM http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/484/frasers3.jpg
http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/8631/frasers2.jpg
http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/5136/frasers1.jpg
aaronaugi1 March 9th, 2009, 03:44 AM that render looks extremely life-like IMO.
BartBart March 9th, 2009, 03:52 AM http://www.thewest.com.au/default.aspx?MenuID=77&ContentID=128903
$4.5m boost to sculpture park plan
A $50 million revamp of Heirisson Island as a world-class sculpture park is a step closer after Art Gallery of WA director Stefano Carboni joined an alliance of business, political and cultural leaders backing the project.
The City of Perth has committed $4.5 million to the first stage of the 20-year vision under a master plan which features an underground visitors’ centre, two ferry terminals, an amphitheatre, landscaped coves and even light rail to the island to be promoted as the city’s “eastern bookend” to Kings Park.
Lord Mayor Lisa Scaffidi said the popularity of Cottesloe’s Sculpture by the Sea pointed to the viability of such a sculpture park and she called on the State Government to back it.
An “entry-statement” footbridge to the island would be built within three years from a planned cafe, microbrewery and boat mooring development on Point Fraser, at the eastern end of the CBD, she said.
The under-used 28ha island on the city doorstep could become a prime tourist drawcard, a showcase for local and international artists and a celebration of Perth’s European and indigenous heritage.
“Without State support it will be a slower, more drawn-out process than it needs to be,” Ms Scaffidi said. “I would hope the State Government would see merit in coming on board because of the tourism and economic flow-on benefits.
“It will be a world-class sculpture park and enable people to (have access to) an island destination in their capital city — that’s cool.”
The project is the brainchild of Perth artist Joanna Box and has been promoted for several years by a diverse group of WA professionals under the banner of the Heirisson Island Sculpture Park Inc. Ms Box and group chairman District Court judge Bill Groves said yesterday the goal was to have the project completed by the 2029 bicentenary of the settlement of the Swan River colony.
Dr Carboni said the island’s potential as a sculpture park was obvious. The State gallery could be involved in providing advice, helping choose artworks and in joint promotions.
More details on the project are at: http://sculptureontheswan.com.au.
STEPHEN BEVIS
ryan79 March 9th, 2009, 05:28 AM http://www.thewest.com.au/default.aspx?MenuID=77&ContentID=128903
$4.5m boost to sculpture park plan
A $50 million revamp of Heirisson Island as a world-class sculpture park is a step closer after Art Gallery of WA director Stefano Carboni joined an alliance of business, political and cultural leaders backing the project.
The City of Perth has committed $4.5 million to the first stage of the 20-year vision under a master plan which features an underground visitors’ centre, two ferry terminals, an amphitheatre, landscaped coves and even light rail to the island to be promoted as the city’s “eastern bookend” to Kings Park.
Lord Mayor Lisa Scaffidi said the popularity of Cottesloe’s Sculpture by the Sea pointed to the viability of such a sculpture park and she called on the State Government to back it.
An “entry-statement” footbridge to the island would be built within three years from a planned cafe, microbrewery and boat mooring development on Point Fraser, at the eastern end of the CBD, she said.
The under-used 28ha island on the city doorstep could become a prime tourist drawcard, a showcase for local and international artists and a celebration of Perth’s European and indigenous heritage.
“Without State support it will be a slower, more drawn-out process than it needs to be,” Ms Scaffidi said. “I would hope the State Government would see merit in coming on board because of the tourism and economic flow-on benefits.
“It will be a world-class sculpture park and enable people to (have access to) an island destination in their capital city — that’s cool.”
The project is the brainchild of Perth artist Joanna Box and has been promoted for several years by a diverse group of WA professionals under the banner of the Heirisson Island Sculpture Park Inc. Ms Box and group chairman District Court judge Bill Groves said yesterday the goal was to have the project completed by the 2029 bicentenary of the settlement of the Swan River colony.
Dr Carboni said the island’s potential as a sculpture park was obvious. The State gallery could be involved in providing advice, helping choose artworks and in joint promotions.
More details on the project are at: http://sculptureontheswan.com.au.
STEPHEN BEVIS
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