Name: The Seers on Maude
Location: Gwen Lane, Sandton
Floors: 40
Height: ?
Completion Date: March/August 2009

Details:

Not much information available right now. Jakes1 attempted to get hold of the developer but the developer wasn't giving too much away.

So far all we know is that the commercial element will have 1500m2 for retail (so probably ground floor retail) and 22,000m2 for commercial.

The board does not say how much space the residential element will have.

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NICE!!

Finally a modern highrise in Jozi!!

awesomeness

Love it!!!!! The BEST highrise in SA announced in the last year!

ill add as propsed, cool render where is it from?
Any idea on developers anem or architects nemae for emporis?

Reaaaal naaice! I'm a little lost tho, wtf is Gwen Lane ?

Ill call it 30F for now and add the render.
Any idea on architect or developer?

Now thats what I call a building, if only it were 70 or 80 storeys *sigh*

Any idea on architect or developer?


There was a company called 'EXPS Management' listed on the board. Not sure if it was the developer - assuming it was. Yarrick... any ideas?

Reaaaal naaice! I'm a little lost tho, wtf is Gwen Lane ?


Gwen Lane is the street upon which it is located. The building is located between Edward Nathan Sonnenberg Attorneys and the Joburg Stock Exchange.

Woah...eeez naice!

although it would be cool to have residential apartments in here, it wouldnt suit the building, it looks very buisnessy

This bring a new change in Sandton Skyline, WOW, the building is amazing. I hope that we see more of this skyscrapers coming up in Sandton.

we need a Google earth map of Sandton with all the developemnts listed, cant picture all these new towers as Sandton is dense as it is

tell me about it, was there the other month, its cool seeing all these new buildings, went to see an apartment in the emperor, those are blody nice flats!

nice catch its about time tired of only 2 skyscrapers in sandton

wow!! I love it!! Is this actually going ahead or is it just a concept?

Me too hsark, but this means that by 2009, Sandton will at least have about 4 tall skyscrapers.

1. Michael Anglo.
2. Sandton City.
3. Hydro Park on Grayston, its about 15 floors
4. The Seers on Maude


I'm crossing my fingers that more of them are announced this year so that at least Sandton can have about 6 to 8 of them by 2010.

dont forget the RMB building and the forum building and the tall white hotel next to the forum.

Sandton is getting denser but we still need some higher buildings, like these ones.

Mike, i'm assuming it's going ahead because there is a big ass sign in front of the crappy two floor building that is currently being knocked down to make way for this beauty.

dont forget the RMB building and the forum building and the tall white hotel next to the forum.


Mike please give details about this and/or add to the list that I have typed in ehre and please do not forget to specify the number of floors.

well this building is great news. let us hope that this is the start sandton actually becoming a cbd with street front retailing, instead of fences and walls...and no people on the street

i didn't find Umhlanga to be a hive of street traffic either..

Anyway, these days I see quite a few people walking the streets in Sandton. Initiatives such as the Sandton Central Precinct have helped made it far more pedestrian friendly, with things such as fairy lights on almost every single tree at night and street performers during the day. Small details, but they make Sandton a little less corporate and a bit more fun..

^^ Thats La Lucia tom where the office parks are....

Umhlanga is the area around gateway

any latest news on this?

They are busy clearing the site for building - demolishing the old buildings

i didn't find Umhlanga to be a hive of street traffic either..

Anyway, these days I see quite a few people walking the streets in Sandton. Initiatives such as the Sandton Central Precinct have helped made it far more pedestrian friendly, with things such as fairy lights on almost every single tree at night and street performers during the day. Small details, but they make Sandton a little less corporate and a bit more fun..

I dunno about you but have you ever tried to walk around sondton?
Wo-its quite a workout! I know people complain about the lack of vibe around sandton but i would not like to hike up and down those hills in my suit and get all sweaty...the geography does not lend itself to walking im afraid

unless you a triathlete of course

martsbra if u live in sandton u don't need to walk uve got a car and a driver

i dont live there but made the mistake of walking around the place trying to take photos of the buildings (2 yrs ago)...next time il take the car and just pull over and take the photo's

I must say that the fact that Sandton is not walkable jst mess up its attractiveness. But Rosebank and Rivonia just make it for Sandton.

can some 1 please get pics of the building site

Nice building, Mordern and innovate :cheers:

Jakes its good to learn that work have started here.

Oh my goodness, Imagine 2009. Radisson, The Seers and possibly one or more that are on the pipeline. On an already beutiful skyline, I wonder how its gonna be looking. :banana:

A big hole in the ground

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Does anyone think that this could be the 60 storey building apparently 'under construction'?? that is an awfully big underground for a 25-30 storey.. Is council rights def approved for 35-40 only??

could someone ask a foreman or siate agent what this is?

^^ I nominate Jakes...

Isnt the tower much more rectanglar, resulting in what looks like a massive basement.

anyone know who the contractor is? plz

that hole aint that big. consider they will build at least 3F of underground parking. i'm surprised that so little has been written in the press about this development

that hole aint that big. consider they will build at least 3F of underground parking. i'm surprised that so little has been written in the press about this development

Well, it is rather small, and could be bigger (we should have 12 cranes working on site to make it bigger). And very little is written about any of the sandton developments. No paper clips surrounding the Jade or Topaz (of which Topaz is sold out without any coverage). The Radisson is up to level 10, and now we are only hearing about it. The holiday inn on Rivonia? No news. The Hydro? Almost topped out and very little coverage. The Sandurst towers? Very little coverage. Place on Sandton? Huge development - only a few scattered articles here and there. The Sunset towers? Very little news concerning that.

Pity it is such a small hole in the ground. Maybe only a few big trucks?

Well, it is rather small, and could be bigger (we should have 12 cranes working on site to make it bigger). And very little is written about any of the sandton developments. No paper clips surrounding the Jade or Topaz (of which Topaz is sold out without any coverage). The Radisson is up to level 10, and now we are only hearing about it. The holiday inn on Rivonia? No news. The Hydro? Almost topped out and very little coverage. The Sandurst towers? Very little coverage. Place on Sandton? Huge development - only a few scattered articles here and there. The Sunset towers? Very little news concerning that.

Pity it is such a small hole in the ground. Maybe only a few big trucks?

Yeah, the media guys are only interested in Gautrain and FIFA World Cup 2010 stadiums, those sell the papers more. :ohno:

to be honest the general public couldnt give a toss over anything related to buildings. but i am surprised that this development has not feature more in the construction or architecture press.

yup theres nothing in most of those mags but they only publish stuff once there finished with the project

The hole is getting bigger and bigger. They have a stop/go system in maude street now, to allow huge trucks to enter/exit the site. It is more than a three storey basement at this stage.

yep i think its at abt 3 storeys deep.. and they certainly dont look like they stopping

Havent got this months issue of Construction Review, & havent seen anything in the previous issues. Any Idea on who the building contractor is ?

Where can I get an issue of Construction Review from?

I dont know, you cant buy it, they just send it to me :dunno:

heres the website of the publishers www.readafrica.com

website doesnet work?

It works for me?

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Oh look Joburg, you can subscribe to it.

Yup.. thanks, did so yesterday. Waiting for my copy. :) Guess it comes via email?

its a kenyan pulication?

What's the latest on this Building:)

What's the latest on this Building:)

Jakes1 took some pictures last week of the basement hole they are digging. check page 2 of this thread for an update.

Yup.. thanks, did so yesterday. Waiting for my copy. :) Guess it comes via email?

Nope, they will email a form to fill out & they post you the magazine. I think they stop sending it to me because we not advertising in it :bash:

you can read basically all the articles on the website tho.

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Lovely pictures Inertia, i am loving this project. :cheers:

i hope they start on removing the neighbouring buildings, for it will look odd with this beauty of a 30F tower next to 3F faux

lol in other words remove the stock exchange? cos that is what's next it

awesome pics inertia, I see its between the JSX and Sandton city, will add some nice density

hahaha thats funny, "Hey break down that ugly building" .......uh thats the stock exchange, " I dont care, its making my building look like shite"

cool pic's of the hole, looks like 3-4 floors below road level.

Hey hey. The JSE might only be 10F but I still like it. That little 4F "euroshite" thingy next door is not the jse, but just another example of suburban office sprawl. Maybe it will fall into this pit?

That Euroshite next door to Seers are the Sandton Chambers. it reallllly needs to get swallowed up. it takes up so much valuable space!

lol in other words remove the stock exchange? cos that is what's next it

i know the area rather well after having spent a morning walking around there and being offered lifts by people "cos it was not safe or normal to walk the streets of sandton". So yes i know the jse complex is nearby and i dont have a problem with it for it is modern architecture.

I DO have a problem with the office complex directly across the road and the one on the sandton city side of this dev. both are land hogs and really blehh

i know the area rather well after having spent a morning walking around there and being offered lifts by people "cos it was not safe or normal to walk the streets of sandton". So yes i know the jse complex is nearby and i dont have a problem with it for it is modern architecture.

I DO have a problem with the office complex directly across the road and the one on the sandton city side of this dev. both are land hogs and really blehh

They were probably just wanting to pick you up for other reasons. I walk around sandton quite a lot and i have never felt threatened. The new red-uniformed sandton CID guys are on every corner. Streets are clean. In maude street you see anyone, from attorneys to bankers to fruitsellers on the street. I walked everywhere with my camera, wallet, backpack etc. How do you think I took all my sandton pics? And in sandton people don't take three hour lunches, hence the fact that you won't see loads of people in the streets on lunch. And most people work 9 - 5, so they arent really frolocking outside, are they? Areas with most pedestrian traffic is Rivonia, Maude, Freeman etc. because offices open up to smaller streetside shopping strips.

Why would you walk from sandton city to Mcdonald's in Grayston? It just doesnt make sense. Time is money.

if it is not safe to walk in the street, why is it considered safe to park on the street? Fredman Drive:
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no people were mugged during the taking of this picture... Wasnt offered any lifts. Maybe Im just not innocent looking, or sexy enough...
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A jogger running away from a mob of angry attorneys trying to mug him... (all caught on security camera) - luckily he was saved when a durbanite gave him a lift to his nearest safe treadmill.
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Maude street, where I was offered a lift twice, by taxis... wanting to make money
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Two other crazy pedestrians...
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After I scaled the 34foot perimeter fence, i could get a nice shot of this front door... (note, apart from my sinister attempt at sarcasm, there was indeed no perimeter fence on the corner of fifth and maude...)
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In Sandton, a few things influence the pedestrian traffic...
1. Lunchtime - that is usually the only time business suits venture outside their laptop controlled universes.
2. The weather - too hot, too cold - sandtonites are very sensitive and averse to cold and hot weather (almost like capitalist reptiles)
3. The fact that it is much better to be stuck in traffic in your car than to be stuck on your feet - we looooove our cars.
4. Face it: high heels, stilleto's and the latest fashionable men's shoes are just not that comfortable for walking long distances, plus you might damage them.
5. We are just stuck up?

So next time in Sandton michael, don't fear, you can actually walk in the daytime.

hahahahahahaha lol ur post has put a smile of my face jakes1 :) classic

That Euroshite next door to Seers are the Sandton Chambers. it reallllly needs to get swallowed up. it takes up so much valuable space!

I know what you mean. Once went there to meet some guys and the whole thing is like a Microsoft Campus with blocks of 4 story buildings all over with very boring brown face brick walls. That property could do wonders if someone could transform it into highrises as its right next to the Stock Exchange whose height is not all that bad and the Rand Merchant towers.

i know the area rather well after having spent a morning walking around there and being offered lifts by people "cos it was not safe or normal to walk the streets of sandton".


I hope you told them they were naive oddballs.

Sandton is easily one of the safest parts of town to walk around in, not only because of all the surveillance cameras put in place by Sandton Central, but also the security guards milling about and (surprise, surprise), the everyday people walking about with their laptops and cellphones and business suits.

To even suggest that Sandton is unsafe is a load of absolute twaddle and bullshit. Seriasssly. i mean, it's like a WHACKO idea.

:-)


That property could do wonders if someone could transform it into highrises as its right next to the Stock Exchange whose height is not all that bad and the Rand Merchant towers.


Well here's hoping that the Seers casts a permanent shadow over the Euroshite, forcing those advocates to work in a cold, dark and depressing environment!

"Well here's hoping that the Seers casts a permanent shadow over the Euroshite, forcing those advocates to work in a cold, dark and depressing environment"

HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR!!! Tom, u crazy.

i never said i thought it was unsafe. i was merely retelling the situation i was in. They found it more odd i was walking than anything. I walked around for 3 hours and not once did i see any "business people" walking the streets, except the parking lots of village walk and 24 central.

It was nice enough, but i hope dev's like this one and future ones, encourage more people to walk about and "live" on the street

i never said i thought it was unsafe. i was merely retelling the situation i was in. They found it more odd i was walking than anything.


Yup, and i'm just saying that to think Sandton is completely unsafe is naive.

As for the business suits, they're there. you must have just missed them. :)

^^lol, they the MIB's

Jakes nice post :D

Jakes, how's the progress on these one?

Will try and get shots of this tomz, nothing has risen above ground level, it still seems like they are digging. Cant see much tho since the whole thing is barricaded with fences and they dont leave many openings to look into. Thats why having contacts in Edward Nathan is the shizzle

The pit seems to be completed. It will prob start to rise soon.
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Little trucks
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however, on closer inspection, they seem to be digging still.
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how on earth are you allowed to get that close to the hole? do they not take safety precautions???

it is rather deep, 3F parking basement? any rough idea on length/width? and still no website anywhere? wierd.

Yep this project is a mystery. No known architect, builder, serveyors, etc..

Any speculations on height/floors?

how on earth are you allowed to get that close to the hole? do they not take safety precautions???

it is rather deep, 3F parking basement? any rough idea on length/width? and still no website anywhere? wierd.


I took the picture from an office park next door. I spoke to the developers just after it was launched - they had a massive sign outside the site. This sign has since been taken down. the developer told me that they had planned on 20000m2 office space, a couple of thousand retail. Their was a residential component as well, but they first wanted to see if there was any interest.

So yes, it is a mistery. Maybe Protech Khutele (the earth movers) have more info? I will try to find out.

^^ you would have thought at least one publication would have even slightly mentioned it. dig dig dig boys

how on earth are you allowed to get that close to the hole? do they not take safety precautions???


The hole is literally right next to the road. All one needs to do is find a gap in the fencing and snap away. Does seem a little dangerous indeed.

The hole is literally right next to the road. All one needs to do is find a gap in the fencing and snap away. Does seem a little dangerous indeed.

Or climb one of the trees by Maude street's pavement next to the hole and take your pics, LOL. :lol:

all you need is a car to drive into it and you legal boys will be needed

Just as well then that the biggest law firm in SA is next door.. ;)

So this is a 40floor now. It is the 75 on Maude - we need to rename.

So I know Maude (one between convention centre and Sandton Sq which runs all the way up the hill to Rivonia rd), is this then close to the Stock exchange amongst all thsoe nameless faceless office park efforts?

This one is underconstruction almost on the corner.
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i wouldnt call them faceless or nameless. This one opens up to the street... with an M&A restaurant. It is right next to the new 40F.
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Maude in Autumn
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Maude is going through a lot of changes. It will soon be the main link between the Balailaika, the Hilton, The Grayston Southern Sun, the 27F Radisson,the New Holiday Inn and Sandton Central. Nowadays it is busy with foot-traffic. It is indeed becoming my fav street in sandton. There are Red-uniformed Sandton Central Personnel on every corner. It is safe, and clean.

but wont a 40F dominate too much in a sea of 5f buildings?

should be pedestrianised

The Radisson is 27F. The Hilton 8. The Nedbank - around 9. Stock Exchange - 11F. The Michaelangelo Towers - 34. The Sandton City Block - 20F (with possible extentions). The New Holiday Inn - At least 10 - not sure about final height. Then the two sandton hotels 15 - 20F. not sure. The Holiday Inn maude Street is two 11F towers. The Michaelangelo hotel is about 8f. So there are more than 5 F blocks. Maude street is very dense up to the square. And the density is going further away now. The Michaelangelo is 34F, and it does not look out of place.

Maude street is very dense towards the Tower and the Convention Centre. The new 40f is very close to this. Some pics regarding density in Maude street.

Maude by day
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When darkness falls
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The Tower - rich clientele
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Restaurant at the Forum
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Dense?
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The 40F is next to this one
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Cafe on Maude - holiday inn
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Jakes whats happening on that funny little corner plot on maude next to Forum?
wow so much has changed since we lived in Sandton

That funny little corner plot is still just sitting there, irritating me... taunting me. maybe they can plant olive groves there to reinforce the tuscan feel of the place! hehe

Sa we finally have a confirmation that this is a 40 storey beast! dysan please rename the thread accordingly, ta :)

Those are some awesome pics Yarrick! The Sandton Central Management District really has done a sterling job of making Sandton prettier!

And just to echo what Inertia says - MIkey, please change the thread name accordingly, as SSC won't let me do it when I edit my post.

mikey doesnt always like to visit 40f joburg threads... hehe

lol, looks like it

how dare we build tall buildings in joburg? We all know that is why we have durban!

Just visited Protech Khuthele's website. They are doing the groundwork for the Seers. And low and behold, there it is... The Seers: R7.5million - for the groundwork. It is going up baby! highrise sandton here we come...

they are also working on groundwork for:
Oliver Tambo Int. Airport Parkade R17,3 million
Silverstar Casino R 24.4 million
Nampak Rosslyn R 15 million
ABSA Towers West R 8.5 million
Peter Mokaba Polokwane Stadium R 12 million
Eland Platinum R 7.4 million
Katlehong Roads R 15.7 million
Saldanha Bay R 25.7 million
The Seers R 7.5 million
American Embassy R 5.4 million
Gautrain Kempton Park Link R63 million

this thread is incredibly ignored by our moderator! Mike, this is a 40F now, we need you to change it accordingly!

If only we could change the location in the thread title to xxx, Durban!!

I know...

how many other cities in south africa can even contemplate building a 40F office building?

honestly guys you are being pathetic. i have changed the title. i dont post cos not much is going on except the hole, when something more interesting can be seen then you will hear from me :)

thank you! it took quite some time and a few 'statements' to draw your eye to this side of the forum! heehee

haha thx u know we only kidding :P.. oh and got a few pics taken today, will post later tonight

I know this is supposed to be on the sandton thread, but I though I'd still need to dispell the myth of the lonely 40F.

The Seers Will have the following neighbours:
The JSE on Maude - 11F
The Radisson - 27F (Rivonia)
The holiday inn twins - 11F each (Maude)
The Forum (Maude Street) - 16F
Sandton City Office Tower (5th street) - 22F
Michealangelo Tower (maude Street) - 35F
The Sandown towers (Sandton Drive) - 16F
The Sandton Sun (5th street) - 15F

So a 40F will hardly be the only tall building, plus it is bound to be followed by others...
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honestly guys you are being pathetic. i have changed the title. i dont post cos not much is going on except the hole, when something more interesting can be seen then you will hear from me :)


I can remember posting stuff about certain other towers, even when there where no holes visible! heehee. We're just having fun with you mikey. No hard feelings...


or maybe we just like to :bash: durbanites?

More developments are proposed in the immediate vicinity of Gautrain’s Sandton station on the corner of Rivonia and West roads, many of them involving high-rise components. The Sandton council’s land — the old Rhodesian-looking civic centre near the taxi rank — will also be redeveloped, linking the station to the heart of Sandton.

The winning development tenders will be announced later this year.


This is just the beginning. At a briefing to property brokers, Gautrain Management Agency CEO Jack van der Merwe said he expected Sandton’s current 500000m² of office space to increase by another 300000m² by 2010, adding another 10000 workers to Sandton’s central business district.


The growth isn’t unique to Sandton. Districts surrounding stations along the Gautrain route are poised for take-off, and many of them will be mid-to high-rise. It’s the nature of the beast: proximity to rapid-rail stations has created rising suburban skylines in other world cities, too. Washington’s Metro and Atlanta’s Marta rail systems have created high-growth, high-density, high-price and high-rise developmental nodes far from their established city centres — districts like Washington’s Rockville and Atlanta’s Midtown and Buckhead.



What sets Sandton apart from other stops on the Gautrain route — from Park Station to Hatfield — is its tangible “swish” factor due to its status as the gilded home to exclusive international boutiques and hotels and one of the world’s largest stock exchanges.

In many ways, Sandton is fast becoming Joburg’s “Midtown” — keeping in mind “new north” suburbs like Fourways, Sunninghill, Lonehill and Midrand.

Nelson Mandela Square, Sandton’s “village square”, opened in 1994 and might even be deemed “historical” in Sandton terms. “It’s the only shopping centre in SA without an anchor tenant,” says marketing manager, Sheree McHaffie (though Gucci fans might disagree), “and, at 16000m² , it’s also one of South Africa’s smallest centres.

“But it’s a pulse-point for Sandton. It’s not about fine dining as much as life unfolding, where people gather for business meetings, affairs, dates and break-ups — all the joys and drama that unfold in the course of living.”


While Sandton central hotel guests often walk the few blocks to Sandton City or Mandela Square, relatively few of the district’s residents do. Says Elaine Montague, a British immigrant who lives a few blocks from the Village Walk; “I wouldn’t feel safe walking around. I might pop across the road to the Village Walk on foot, but I’d never walk up to Sandton City, even by day.

“I’m not being negative. I’ve never had any problems whatsoever, but I just feel it’s safer to drive. Ideally, I’d love to walk but, for now, not.”


It’s a challenging head space, one that Reilly and her team are determined to change through the creation of a safe, 24/7 live-work-play high-end district. Unlike Capetonians and Durbanites, many suburban Joburgers are struggling to accept that “high-rise” is not a secret code word for Hillbrow. The difference? The majority of flats in Hillbrow are rented, while the majority of apartments in Sandton central are owner-occupied.


The Maude Street canyon between the 34-storey Michelangelo Towers and the Sandton Convention Centre offers a hint of what might come. In the not-so- distant future, what Luka (and local residents) might experience is a safe, pedestrian-friendly “corridor of light” along Maude Street, from the Hilton Hotel through to Sandton City — a petit- but-potent four-block strip that will be lined with some of the continent’s most luxurious (and tallest) buildings, street- level restaurants and shopping.


It’s not too abstract if you look at the elements: Maude Street is already home to the stock exchange, the Sandton Convention Centre, international hotels and one of the Southern Hemisphere’s largest interlinked shopping complexes — all on the doorstep of Gautrain’s premier cross-route station.

More than a half-dozen hotels already line the street, while hospitality industry gossip is that the Four Seasons and Ritz-Carlton hotels are also looking for northern Joburg sites. It’s the old Eloff without the “off” — driven by proactive urban development rather than reactive urban renewal.


The foundations are literally and figuratively in place. As Sandton’s street life continues to develop — much of it driven by the Sandton Central Management’s safety, public art and street-performance projects — Sandton has begun to lift its rather tepid sex appeal, along with its skyline. Give it a few years, and Luka might very well decide to stay. That said, dancing to the new-generation Sandton tune, this time it’s: “My name is Luka. I live on the 32nd floor.”

please move it to the seers thread. And by the way, it is good to have a building that stands out. When sandton city was completed in 1973, it stood out. Would you rather they stop building tall buildings? Or that we mask them because they stand out? Does the michaelangelo tower add to the sandton skyline, or does it stand out too much (at 34F?).

or maybe we just like to :bash: durbanites?

Is that hit on durbanites? i didnt know you cared :)

I do care very very much... what were you saying about nudist beaches again?

The skyline will look great when there are a few more. i still find it disjointed, but if there are 4-5 more in the 25F+ range things will be good. look forward for more concrete info on this tho, for we are still yet to see anything in the media

We did see something about it in the media, that's how we knew it was 40F. :)

And they even had a render of the building in a type of collage, in and amongst the Gucci, LV and Cartier labels. It was to show Sandton up as uber exclusive and stuff.

Whilst I am about about this Mikey.. can you change the Bedford Square thread from 5F to 9F?

well please post the article for us then

the sunday times lists the 40F as under construction, and the 27F radisson as under construction.

also you will note that on Protech khuthele's website there is information concerning the groundwork being done for The Seers. Which means, this 40F is actually going up. The Mast and the San Raphael would have looked just as out of place, alone on the point (were they ever built). Sandton has quite a few buildings to keep the seers company.

40 floors? This is really good news.Now just to get an apartment there:)

That's interesting that it will be 40 floors. That means it will be the tallest building in Sandton and taller than the Michaelangelo Towers which is 34 floors and 140 metres.

How many metres will Seers now be? It must be close to rivalling the Ponte City (175 metres) in terms of height?

It will probably be between 140 and 190, although the old renders we saw had no spires or other structures to increase the height. I'm sure the renders have changed a bit, but if anyone can contact the developer/architect it would be great to get some updated technical info

Depressing day in Sandton

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Protech don't seem to be in a hurry..

Nice shots Inertia! I wonder if there is going to be a pond in the middle of the building? :)

Np

Once we get a height confirmation on this, i'm gonna post it in the highrise section of the forums.. I doubt a SA skyscraper has done the rounds there in a long time..

Protech would not have been working yesterday because of the national holiday...

40 floors? This is really good news.Now just to get an apartment there:)


when I spoke to the developers ages ago they said that they were not sure about apartments as a part of the development. Apartments might be a small part of the plans (if they see a need for that), but the bulk will be retail and office.

Protech would not have been working yesterday because of the national holiday...

The actual site hasn't changed much in the last few weeks/months. Was referring to that

The actual site hasn't changed much in the last few weeks/months. Was referring to that


If you compare your pics to mine taken 3months ago, you can see the difference. There are dump trucks leaving the entire time. It seems that they have reached the level they wanted to though. Compare your pics to mine on page 2.

Updates please gents.

man, they seem to be digging for ever...
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One lonely machine remains
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Now thats a nice size for a swimming pool
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and there seems to be little progress... apart from the little dam thats been filled in.

Yip. This one is a little strange. Seems like something has happened that's stalling the project - maybe building plans didn't get approved.. Who knows, it's all a mystery

hopefully they increasing the hight by 20 stories!!!!! :clown:

ahem... height

They still diggin? wtf? I would have expected some piles by now!

Gents, what's the progress?

Saw a truck full of rebar outside the site yesterday - a clear indication that construction is going ahead. Will only get pics in the new year, soz

The most important thins is that there is progress. Thanx Inertia.

Drove past the rebar as well... This means they will start piling! whoopy

hi is there a render for this i see a big hole but not sure whats gng to be built there i laugh it enjoys be a micky d's or a kfc with a uber large basement or a 3f building ;-)

^^First page, dumbass :D


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lol, DB, u bad bro.

I was joking, thats why the ":D"

I was joking, thats why the ":D"
man thats a impressive looking kfc :banana: i completely forgot about the render

I was joking, thats why the ":D"


Ja I understand, that's why I lol

man thats a impressive looking kfc :banana: i completely forgot about the render

lol, lets hope shes rises quicker than they dug her hole......that doesnt sound right.

lol, lets hope shes rises quicker than they dug her hole......that doesnt sound right.

yes and i am totally shocked at the utter lack of coverage this has recieved in the press

yes and i am totally shocked at the utter lack of coverage this has recieved in the press

The media has been pre-occupied with coverage of Zuma vs Mbeki, LOL

well she deserves more attention than that.

We have columns!

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Ahh, that means there's progress.

ok lets see the tower crane already

I'm crossing my fingers for this one to accelerate in 2008.

By far my favourite project currently! Sexy....

why is the site still so unsecured? seems u can just walk and fall to your death in that hole

why is the site still so unsecured? seems u can just walk and fall to your death in that hole

Its a good way to secure a steady flow of slave workers. Durbanites are interested in the building, venture closer to take pictures... they fall into the unsecured pit and voila! They have to work their way out of there. At least we are putting the durbies to good use...

I need coffee.

I passed there last week, the place is very secured.

Its a good way to secure a steady flow of slave workers. Durbanites are interested in the building, venture closer to take pictures... they fall into the unsecured pit and voila! They have to work their way out of there. At least we are putting the durbies to good use...

I need coffee.

lol. it just doesnt look like its meeting safety standards.

Glad to see the columns rising

lol. it just doesnt look like its meeting safety standards.

Glad to see the columns rising

They have 'fortified' the gate by now - but this is almost always open because of the moving of machinery in and out from the site. Most pics are taken from the office complex next door - if you stand in their parkade you look down into this pit. But I must agree - quite worrying to have such an open pit and being able to walk right in...

Its a good way to secure a steady flow of slave workers. Durbanites are interested in the building, venture closer to take pictures... they fall into the unsecured pit and voila! They have to work their way out of there. At least we are putting the durbies to good use...

I need coffee.


:lol: You funny bunny!

hahaha lol @jakes1

I saw working and trucks busy on this site yesterday, therefore it means that we will see something this year. I just can't wait.

Yay I really love this project!

This is so cool. High hopes for Joburg. Lets hope theyd spring up in the JNB CBD too.

case of beer to the first guy to get a new render of the project with some confirmed data

case of beer to the first guy to get a new render of the project with some confirmed data

Only a case of beer? You must be mad

Ok ok and a nandos burger with that

With Pine & cheese?

check point 26 in this link, maybe some one can phone these dudes,

http://www.bmi-brscu.co.za/experience.htm

The Seers is a G5 build... maybe we should try to contact them?

With Pine & cheese?

never eat anything but

Are there any updates on this. Please, we all seem to be lacking enthusiasm on this development..... I would do it, its just the matter of 11000km between me and Sandton.

^^ lol, yeh this must be the most secret of the sandton developments as i have yet to hear a single thing about this development outside of this forum

There is literally nothing happening. The site is closed and there doesn't seem to be any work happening - sorry

Well, the G5 boards went up a couple of weeks ago, but they did not answer me when I asked them about this...

so its in pause mode??

pause on maude?

^^:rofl:

Progress? - u decide (sorry for quality)

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hmmm...looks very much stalled, pity

That's progress since the last time I saw photos. That said though, it's not great progress at all, and it does seem to have been halted. No clue what's holding it up, but I'm quite sure it'll resurrect itself. Else Sandton's going to have a big gaping hole in a very prime location. Can't imagine that happening at all!

Spoke with a friend of mine who has some insight into several projects in and around Sandton about a week ago.... Well basicaly he told me that several deep construction sites have lost up to 2 weeks due to the effects of the prolonged rain since Janurary..... told me that some contractors have had more delays because of lack of pumping equipment than because of the lack of POWER!

Just looking at the site above makes me wonder if this has anything to do with it.

Well, we had up to 200mm of rain. So yes, the sites will look like this. And the construction vehicles... there is some action it seems.

I see the basement pool is coming along nicely

Saw workers here yesterday therfore construction is continuing.

Any latest updated pics on this

Took some over the weekend, work still continuing and they have reserved a section of Maude Street for construction vehicles. This past sunday there we 3 construction vehicles busy digging.

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Thanks for the pics

Hopefully they will speed up with the building process

i think the torrential rain over the past few months have slowed them down. A lot of sites in the sandton/rosebank area have watertable problems because of the rain.

YA.......................Those construction sites look like big ponds
But will be better during winter as there will not be much rain
But there will be serious power cuts

I wouldn't mind a power for all these constructions. They can take my power during the day while they busy with construction.

Nah.......................they can get the electricity from the government buildings

They'll obviousluy apply for a builders supply which isnt that much as the power needed for the building.

Looks like quite a small site for such a high building.

This site is not that small, take a look at earlier pics to see the scale. And it is a couple of storeys deep by now.

Looks like quite a small site for such a high building.

May be from the pic it looks small but ones you close to it, you will realise that its big. Just check how small those construction vehicles are.

Well now that the rains have stopped this should be going full steam. And i am having my doubts that its 40 floors

Me also thinking 32-35

ANY MORE PICS ON THIS
Please!

They stillbusy with the ground work Joshy, to me it seemed useless to take another pic of ground works while we have posted plenty of them before.

Thanks for the reply Pule

That makes sence, maybe only once they start with the brick work ie. the underground parking and the actually offices then it would be worth it

Thanks!

BIIIIIG hole, no action
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This might explain why, they are applying for a hotel as a part of the complex as well
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Not only that, but they are moving the fence into Maude Street - probably to make more room during construction
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I don't see this one takinff anytime soon, one day contractors are there and the next there's nothing happening :ohno:

well, they are rather busy chopping bit holes in maude street to move the fence. And this is a move they won't be able to take unless they are planning to start construction.

Its going to happen.....and its going to be BIG. Look at Group 5's sign.....it HUGE.......it must be an imporntant contract for them and to get permission to dig up the road like that is hard and done only when necessary......Im excited

^^ Positive thinking is The One!

It's not like other highrise projects in SA that have been canned - this one has a huge friggin hole.

shame we dont have a render who are the architects ??

what are the chances of this and seers on maude being the same building that wud really be funny

???????? you confuse me

huh?

*is confused*

Anyway, I highly doubt it will be canned if they're digging up the road.

Definitely won't be canned, could only be reduced in height. Let's hope for the opposite

what are the chances of this and seers on maude being the same building that wud really be funny

confusion sets in big-time...

Is "seers" and "75 on maude" the same building

Is "seers" and "75 on maude" the same building

Clearly.

Thanks for the confirmation!

Great to see this one taking off

Its going to happen.....and its going to be BIG. Look at Group 5's sign.....it HUGE.......it must be an imporntant contract for them and to get permission to dig up the road like that is hard and done only when necessary......Im excited

i was going to say that i find it odd that they are being given permission to dig up and move onto the road, that doesnt seem normal for a development in a built up area. that will really screw the people in the area over for the next 4 years

I know that quantity surveyors "Brian Heineberg & Associates" are involved in this project and apparently the project was put on hold because of financial reasons but will take off soon.

So are you sure it's still a go. I don't think I could live with myself if this goes down the tubes.

It will be a shame if they cancel the project. It will bring a nice change in the skyline. So cross your fingers.

I have access to a project database, however I do not know how up to date it is at the moment.

The database shows that the Seers on Maude went out to tender in April 2007 at a price of R900M, but there is no indication that it has been awarded yet.
Group 5 have certainly not put it onto their project listings yet.

confused = sorry gents ive been busy with work and lost track of developments so ill kept quiet for a bit :-)

Courtesy of Marco

The Sheers, Maude Street, Sandton CBD
Expected Occupation January 2010

http://www.rcpbrokers.co.za/promo/thesheers/TheSheerslg.gif

Index
The Site
Development Concept
Accommodation Programme
- Offices
- Retail
- Residential
Financial


Benefits of the Development

The property is situated in the heart of the Sandton Central Business District.
Maude Street is the hub of the financial and legal precinct in Sandton and within walking distance of the Gautrain Station
It is located in the same road as the JSE Stock Exchange, Balalaika Hotel and Village Walk Shopping Centre and close proximity (easy walking distance to Sandton City, Nelson Mandela Square, Sandton Convention Centre and several international hotels.
The prime location of the site is enhanced by its proximity to the surrounding amenities and access to main road infra structure.


Development Concept

A great deal of thought, time and effort has been put into the development concept.

The design is a modern looking tower block comprising basement and ground level parking, upper ground level retail, offices above and residential above the offices.

Accommodation

Retail 1 392 m2
Offices 22 187m2 (11 floors of 2 017m2)
Parking bays 1 278 bays
Residential 248 apartments
The offices and residential units will have separate and secure access from the basement and ground level.


Offices

The building will comprise 11 floors of Grade A+ office accommodation with the latest high tech fixtures and fittings.
High Level of security, CCTV system and access control
The office floor plat allow for a flexible design, easy connectivity
A typical floor plate will measure approximately 2 000m2
A market related tenant installation allowance will be provided to incorporate your specific requirement for partitioning, doors, floor and wall covering, signage and space planning.
Basement parking of 4 bays per 100 m2 of office space will be provided. We believe that due to the upgrading of public transport and the central location of the property this ratio will be more than sufficient.

Retail

Approximately 1 500m2 convenience shopping.
Proposed tenancy being a 24 hour delicatessen, coffee shop at ground level, upmarket restaurant on the 16th floor deck, dry cleaning outlet etc.
Residential

120 Executive apartments managed by a leading operator.
72 Simplex apartments - comprising 2 bedroom, 2 bathroom units of approximately 102m2 each including balcony.
44 Luxury duplex apartments - comprising 2 bedroom, 2 bathroom units of approximately 100m2
10 Luxury penthouse duplex apartments

Financial

Rentals Offices - R144.00/m2 net
Basement Parking - R750 per bay
Basement store - R75.0/ m2
Anticipated Operating Costs - approximately R25.00/m2
Escalation 9% p.a.

Installation Allowance R800 m2 for 5 year lease

Benefits of the development

To summarise some of the benefits of relocating to The Seers on Maude are as follows:

Prime Location
Excellent visibility
Prominent building
Easy access
Gautrain Rapid Rail Link station one block away
Close to the new BRT Terminus in Sandton
Walking distance to many amenities; banks, restaurants, hotels, shops, post offices etc Convenient accommodation above the offices for out of town executives

sheeesh thats nice, whats the height?

Not sure, I even checked on RCBrockers but tyey not metioning the height.

I spoke to a guy on the Sandton central board the other day. He said that the building was topping out at 48 floors and they took so long to get going because of the re-zoning of the land for that height. I hope he was not wrong and meant 38 floors.

^^ 38 floors? So psyched! And it's still looking really good! Thanks Marco.

So pretty

double post

Best project in South Africa by far

It's looking awesome!

I am sorry I have not been following stuff recently but is this actually happening as we speak or is it just a proposal? (because if it is it probably is not going to get the finance or the pre lettings to go ahead in the current economic climate)

They're laying foundations aren't they?

The foundations were completed last year and then they waited for re-zoning because they wanted to go higher. Now the hoarding is up and they have started work.
Do not get all fearful about the current economic climate - I am working in the property sector and have spoken to all the experts (Financial Mail, Francois Virully, the national retailers) who say that the current economic climate will last 18 months and then we get back on track. Sandton needs lettable space as vacancies are at all-time lows and it is better to start now and have the building ready for when the economy turns up and the Gautrain station opens!

Please could we get pics of the construction

Ja I totally agree that the current slowdown is just a blip. Great to hear that it is going ahead. Its a great building and is fantastic for sandton. Shame there are not more buildings of this type in the pipeline.

BTW the restaurant on the 16th floor sounds insane!! Just what Sandton needs. Brilliant!

Ja I totally agree that the current slowdown is just a blip. Great to hear that it is going ahead. Its a great building and is fantastic for sandton. Shame there are not more buildings of this type in the pipeline.

More will definately come Mike and I'm sure we will get more sleek designs that this one.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/28180801@N05/2630672300/

Lots more developments in Sandton to come.

Sorry - forgot to add the image.

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Sorry - forgot to add the image.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/28180801@N05/2630672300/

Wobdog, please make sure that your link ends with .img as what you posted is just a path not the actual image.

I do not see any images

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wow Wobdog that's a nifty little image. where did you get it from? is there not maybe a higher-res version of it, because it's a bit difficult to read the writing.
one can clearly see how much development is going on! it's nuts

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Good.