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RGV January 28th, 2007, 11:14 PM ..............................
Views from Uptown, River Oaks and Greenway Plaza. And to think that we had a freeze last week.
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worried1 January 28th, 2007, 11:30 PM Are there any condo hotels or service appartments in Houston that can be purchased?
We are moving to Houston in about 4 years.
FMR-STL January 29th, 2007, 01:18 AM Very cool Pictures! Thanks..! Bigger than I thought..!
koogle January 29th, 2007, 04:27 PM never been to Houston, but the city looks so damn clean in the pictures!!! ;)
samba_man January 29th, 2007, 07:28 PM Beaultiful downtown !
james2390 January 29th, 2007, 07:34 PM Lovely pics. I like all the post-moderness of everything.
seattlehawk January 29th, 2007, 09:04 PM Beaultiful downtown !
This is not downtown but uptown, although you can see the skyline of downtown in a couple of pics. Many people confuse uptown area with downtown and that shows how big the city is.
Gary B January 29th, 2007, 09:27 PM This is not downtown but uptown, although you can see the skyline of downtown in a couple of pics. Many people confuse uptown area with downtown and that shows how big the city is.
A little to add to the Uptown Houston kudo's.... It's one of the top ten business districts in the country, with more than 300,000 people a day commuting in and out. Of course that doesn't count thousands that live there.
Uptown is starting to change agin with the addition of Wolfs 30 story condo tower, Turberrys 42 story condo tower, plus midrise' going up everywhere. The area has really begun to densify.
Here's a pic from a couple of years ago of Uptown.
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What's more amazing to me is the Texas Medical Center which is in a few pics above. This area has just about caught uptown Houston in building square footage (25 million for the TMC with more under construction now, versus the 30 million for Uptown) and has densified it's Commercial space beyond most CBD's in the country.
SkyBridge January 29th, 2007, 11:21 PM Great pictures, beautiful towers - the city however appears dull and lifeless. Way too much open space and it seems too 'planned'.
aquablue January 30th, 2007, 01:29 AM beautiful city
Snowy January 30th, 2007, 01:42 AM Great pictures, beautiful towers - the city however appears dull and lifeless. Way too much open space and it seems too 'planned'.
I know what you mean - like one giant leafy suburb with a few big skyscrapers in the centre.
Maybe this is because this is the 'uptown', rather than the downtown (whatever the hell an 'uptown' is!). Maybe the downtown has more of a big city feel :dunno:
RGV January 30th, 2007, 03:11 AM ......................
Thx for the comments on the photos.
The city was kind of empty because I took the photos this sunday. Here are a couple of prior threads I posted of the downtown area.
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=418339
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=415624
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WinoSoul January 30th, 2007, 03:24 AM Great skyline!!
seattlehawk January 30th, 2007, 06:57 AM I know what you mean - like one giant leafy suburb with a few big skyscrapers in the centre.
Maybe this is because this is the 'uptown', rather than the downtown (whatever the hell an 'uptown' is!). Maybe the downtown has more of a big city feel :dunno:
Unfortunately, you are half right. Uptown Houston was never designed for pedestrain traffic. Wide roads and large parking lots fronting the stores and commercial establishents discourage foot traffic. On the other hand, downtown has a lot more potential for pedestrain traffic due to relatively narrower streets, the "canyon" effect of high-rises and store fronts/buildings directly fronting the road.
Despite that, uptown has a lot more "action" going on than downtown. Uptown is where you will find Galleria Mall, one of the largest in the US, a number of other upscale shopping venues, trendy resturants and city's major hotels. Uptown also has a large residential population that lives in high-rise condominiums, town-homes and single family homes. While all this generates traffic jams on the roads, most of the people stay inside rather than outside and hop around in cars thus leaving the sidewalks rather empty.
By the way, I think the terms uptown and downtown emerged from Manhattan which has north-south orientation. Downtown is at the southern tip of the island (hence "down" town) while uptown is "up" north. However, this is just my guess so I could be wrong.
Snowy January 30th, 2007, 11:07 AM Unfortunately, you are half right. Uptown Houston was never designed for pedestrain traffic. Wide roads and large parking lots fronting the stores and commercial establishents discourage foot traffic. On the other hand, downtown has a lot more potential for pedestrain traffic due to relatively narrower streets, the "canyon" effect of high-rises and store fronts/buildings directly fronting the road.
Despite that, uptown has a lot more "action" going on than downtown. Uptown is where you will find Galleria Mall, one of the largest in the US, a number of other upscale shopping venues, trendy resturants and city's major hotels. Uptown also has a large residential population that lives in high-rise condominiums, town-homes and single family homes. While all this generates traffic jams on the roads, most of the people stay inside rather than outside and hop around in cars thus leaving the sidewalks rather empty.
By the way, I think the terms uptown and downtown emerged from Manhattan which has north-south orientation. Downtown is at the southern tip of the island (hence "down" town) while uptown is "up" north. However, this is just my guess so I could be wrong.
Thanks for the info.
I've just looked at the pics posted by RGV and I agree that the downtown has more of a 'big-city' feel. However, for me personally, it still hasn't got the strret-life of say New York, or Chicago.
I'm not going to endear myself to the Southerners on these forums, but I prefer the Northern US city feel over the Southern US city feel. The Northern cities feel older, with more history and character and because they were planned earlier and not in the 60s (like LA and Houston), they're more pedestrian oriented, rather than car oriented. I like the feel of cities like NY, Chicago, Boston, Philly and your own Seattle. Maybe it's because they feel more 'European' than the Southern US cities. Having said that, I do have soft spot for New Orelans!
SkyBridge January 30th, 2007, 03:21 PM Maybe it's just an own culture that seems to be missing. I could be wrong, but so many of these big US cities feel empty to me. Same kind of buildings, same city structures - more working and shopping districts than actual cities. Even some < 300.000 inh. European cities feel more 'alive' than cities like Houston and Dallas.
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On all the pics in this topic and the two given URL's for above, there are NO people! No people, and so much open space:
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Shocking picture!!!
RGV January 30th, 2007, 04:18 PM there are NO people!
Don't blame Houston for that. Blame me. I really only have time to go out on Sundays to take these photos (job and family duties).
It's really a different situation during the week.
TexasBoi January 30th, 2007, 05:29 PM http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i222/issaaa/PIC_0278.jpg
The Houston Pavilions will fill in some of these parking lots, right? Becuase if so, let's revisit this picture in say 5 years.
TexasBoi January 30th, 2007, 05:32 PM .
I'm not going to endear myself to the Southerners on these forums, but I prefer the Northern US city feel over the Southern US city feel. The Northern cities feel older, with more history and character and because they were planned earlier and not in the 60s (like LA and Houston), they're more pedestrian oriented, rather than car oriented. I like the feel of cities like NY, Chicago, Boston, Philly and your own Seattle. Maybe it's because they feel more 'European' than the Southern US cities. Having said that, I do have soft spot for New Orelans!
You aren't saying anything that we haven't heard before regarding southern cities. Northern cities feel older because they are older and have more history. Houston is still very much a young city compared to New York, Boston, and Philly.
Snowy January 30th, 2007, 06:16 PM You aren't saying anything that we haven't heard before regarding southern cities. Northern cities feel older because they are older and have more history. Houston is still very much a young city compared to New York, Boston, and Philly.
That's not to say that the South is bad though, it's cities may be younger and therefore lack the character of the Northern cities, but overall it has a lot of character and charm, beautiful landscapes and countryside and great people - very warm and polite!
Gary B January 30th, 2007, 06:34 PM No one is considering that Dt Houston has a vast tunnel system, a tunnel system that more than 80% of the DT workers use. Thus it is not lifeless at all. There are eateries, movie theaters, bars, malls etc, it's really a fascinating place.
Your also looking at a picture from the deep recesses of East downtown, and no there is very little pedestrian traffic there. However, if you were to go into the heart of the business district you would find pedestrian traffic everywhere.
Also.... The pedestrian traffic on DT Houston's Main street is wonderful on the weekends. It's become a big party area with roughly 10 to 20 thousand people nightly, and women galore. This area is wonderfully historic and very Manhatten like.
There are also huge live clubs in this area that can house over 2,000 patrons at any given time. With the new park and the massive new "Fingers" tower (over the park), Main street, Pavillions (see below), Dt Houston is booming with entertainment development.
Although this doesn't show pedestrian activity, this shot of downtown Houston show's the bayou walk which has since been completely redone. This area is teeming with residence from DT and Midtown and is becoming more and more populated as Midtown continues it's massive densification.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e128/buggylittle/DSC_0438.jpg
Lastly, that big space that some seem to be so horrified at, is the spot for the Houston Pavillions, which will only add to the entertainment district.
In short... That picture is very deceptive.
aquablue January 30th, 2007, 06:35 PM I live in D.C, I visited parts of the south quite often in the past...Places like South Carolina, Georgia, etc...they don't appeal to me outside the coastal areas where one find sthe nicests old cities. I don't find woodland/lowland countryside that beautiful, perhaps i'm too used to forests (i basically live in a forest)...much of the south is flat, and rather dull in comparison to the countryside out west or the waterways of the north east - its nothing special really. I don't particulalary find the southerners that charming - too much religious ferver down there unfortunately.
Gary B January 30th, 2007, 06:59 PM HCosidering some of the questions here I thought I would post a few Midtown photos that might give you an idea of what's connected to DT.
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One that shows downtowns density.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e128/buggylittle/Densecity.jpg
Lastly, this shows the Esat end of Main street where the highrises sort of stop, but still gives way to some great late 19th century Victorian architecture.
I know there's not much pedestrian activity in the picture, but it was early on a Sunday morning.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e128/buggylittle/DSC_0269.jpg
Gary B January 30th, 2007, 07:04 PM I live in D.C, I visited parts of the south quite often in the past...Places like South Carolina, Georgia, etc...they don't appeal to me outside the coastal areas where one find sthe nicests old cities. I don't find woodland/lowland countryside that beautiful, perhaps i'm too used to forests (i basically live in a forest)...much of the south is flat, and rather dull in comparison to the countryside out west or the waterways of the north east - its nothing special really. I don't particulalary find the southerners that charming - too much religious ferver down there unfortunately.
You obviously haven't a clue as to what your talking about. The stereotype you've portrayed is anything but accurate. Also, to insult one's state, city or territory with no reason show's that your the one with no charm.
You say you live in a forest? Houston is engulfed in a giant hardwood forest. It's one of the most lush area's in the country. In short you have little clue as to your last post.
Snowy January 30th, 2007, 10:00 PM These new pictures are a bit more like it. I like the old Victorian buildings (us Europeans are suckers for old buildings! ;)).
FMR-STL January 31st, 2007, 12:50 AM RGV those are rockin-good skyline pics.! Houston is a skyscrapers dream.!
Thanks for the images of a great urban profile..!:okay:
SkyBridge January 31st, 2007, 02:11 AM I'm sorry, I still haven't explained myself properly clearly.
A good city in my opinion should be dense allover (no 8-lane highways or enormous parking lots or any other open spaces), and have layers of architectural times/decades mixed. Plus each city needs CHAOS! I'll show you a picture of my city. I'm not saying it's the world's biggest metropole - it's not even the biggest city in my country and has 600,000 inhabitants. But there's a lot of "feeling". Even though the centre has been rebuilt completely after WWII (when it was bombed).
http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/3400/18borderqj1.jpg
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Don't get me wrong, I'd kill for some of Houston's towers though :)
And sorry for spamming this topic with pics of another city. I usually hate those people :P
xylene January 31st, 2007, 03:15 AM I lived in Houston for 7 years and have been living in Chicago past 7 years. Houston is a younger city but I wish it would incorporate some ideas from other cities. For instance the Houston downtown seems like skyscaper monuments to the companies that own them. Rather soulless. In Chicago you have the corporate high rises but the ground floors have dry cleaners, bakeries, restaurants, bars. Many high rises double of corporate offices and condos. This makes for a lively atmosphere since people live in downtown.
Houston also desperately needs a mass transit system. In Chicago there are two rail systems. A metra that connects the suburbs and city and a CTA that is for the city. I always believed that a metra rail system would be great for Houston. Rail lines connecting Woodlands, Katy, Sugarland, Clear Lake, Pasadena, Humble to downtown and the galleria area. Then a light rail or skytrain running down Westhiemer.
Bangkok has a wonderful skytrain that would be great for Houston since it's elevated and doesn't take much space
http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/8220/cnv0062yv8.th.jpg (http://img404.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cnv0062yv8.jpg)
http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/7373/cnv0064iz1.th.jpg (http://img404.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cnv0064iz1.jpg)
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Gary B February 2nd, 2007, 07:58 PM I'm sorry, I still haven't explained myself properly clearly.
A good city in my opinion should be dense allover (no 8-lane highways or enormous parking lots or any other open spaces), and have layers of architectural times/decades mixed. Plus each city needs CHAOS! I'll show you a picture of my city. I'm not saying it's the world's biggest metropole - it's not even the biggest city in my country and has 600,000 inhabitants. But there's a lot of "feeling". Even though the centre has been rebuilt completely after WWII (when it was bombed).
http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/3400/18borderqj1.jpg
http://img304.imageshack.us/img304/774/dscf6081ne9.jpg
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http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/108/dscf6090pi8.jpg
Don't get me wrong, I'd kill for some of Houston's towers though :)
And sorry for spamming this topic with pics of another city. I usually hate those people :P
Nice pictures, but I don't see how they make your point. Maybe these pics will dispell some of the myth that Houston has no soul or street life.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e128/buggylittle/Rail2.jpg
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Kronoz February 2nd, 2007, 10:10 PM modern city!!!!!
SkyBridge February 2nd, 2007, 11:26 PM That's A LOT better yes :)
So maybe it's just the pictures that keep being posted here that are misleading.
However, still the city looks too clean in my opinion. I need big city chaos! That's also what I tried to show with my pictures.
RGV February 3rd, 2007, 02:04 AM ...................
Well, it looks like the pictures you posted show a clean and well ordered city.
Where's the dirt and chaos? I want dirt and chaos dammit.
By the way, there's a lot of dirt and chaos in Houston. I see so much of it, I chose to post the cleaner and prettier side of it. :tongue3:
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Heliobatis Radians February 3rd, 2007, 04:42 AM Cool pics of the Best in Texas!
ROYU February 3rd, 2007, 08:22 PM Nice modern city I loved those town houses in Midtown. And also those condos and single huge houses in Uptown. Well planned an very clean city.
Gary B February 5th, 2007, 09:44 PM That's A LOT better yes :)
So maybe it's just the pictures that keep being posted here that are misleading.
However, still the city looks too clean in my opinion. I need big city chaos! That's also what I tried to show with my pictures.
Trust me, Houston is a very gritty city, but it's difficult to tell with it being so modern. Of course you could hit the near Southwest side and see more grit than anyone would want to see..
RGV February 6th, 2007, 04:08 AM Amen Brother,
Folks from Rotterdam don't know what dirt and chaos really is. Come and visit Houston's Southwest side, east side and north side.
leftcoaster February 7th, 2007, 07:06 AM Thanks for the info.
I've just looked at the pics posted by RGV and I agree that the downtown has more of a 'big-city' feel. However, for me personally, it still hasn't got the strret-life of say New York, or Chicago.
I'm not going to endear myself to the Southerners on these forums, but I prefer the Northern US city feel over the Southern US city feel. The Northern cities feel older, with more history and character and because they were planned earlier and not in the 60s (like LA and Houston), they're more pedestrian oriented, rather than car oriented. I like the feel of cities like NY, Chicago, Boston, Philly and your own Seattle. Maybe it's because they feel more 'European' than the Southern US cities. Having said that, I do have soft spot for New Orelans!
I don't know about Houston, but LA was most definately not "planned" in the 60's. In fact, most of the city (except the San Fernando Valley) was totally built out by the 40's-early 50's. The older areas of the city, and even the older suburbs (Pasadena, etc.) I'd argue indeed have character. See any old LA Noir film to see what I mean.
pwright1 February 7th, 2007, 08:16 AM For those who haven't been to Houston, take a trip. It's a typical big city with lots of people, dirt, restaurants, museums, wealth, hoods, festivals, symphonies, water, trees, stores, theaters, football, basketball, baseball, hotels and everything else. Check it out. You might like it. I do.:)
FastFerrari February 8th, 2007, 01:42 AM RVG good pics man. Love this one and the one for San Antonio...my home of course
pwalker March 10th, 2007, 05:44 AM I have always been fascinated by Houston. Few cities have built up outside of downtown more than Houston. However, am I alone, or does Houston seem to have a somewhat "sterile" look in photos? I certainly am not criticizing these photos, I think anyone would come up with the same results. The funny thing is when you actually are there in person, the city doesn't seem sterile at all! But photos of Houston look almost like someone erected a lego set. But you have to admire the pure gutsiness of this place and "ambition" is written all over the architecture!
ØlandDK March 11th, 2007, 09:18 PM Before this I only knew about Housten 500...:D
The skyscrapers look good!!!
But as mentioned before, the city looks like ghost-town...:(
dwdwone January 11th, 2008, 04:18 PM What info can anyone give me about the light rail bridge that goes up to UT?
philadweller January 11th, 2008, 04:36 PM Houston is a very bland suburban city for the most part. People that live there don't see it that way though. It used to have a thriving old core. Part of the old downtown is still intact and major efforts have been taken to bring downtown back. A sleek light rail and historic district are percolating.
Houston is a fake. From a distance it looks like a big bustling city but in reality it is a big facade. Those skyscrapers might as well be cardboard cutouts. Nothing at street level matches whats above.
Keep in mind that Galveston should have been Houston until the hurricane. The history of Houston is basically in Galveston.
Houston is getting denser. What the hell are they going to do about all the awful strip malls littering the city? They render the city soulless.
Austin on the other hand gets it.
kevinkagy January 12th, 2008, 06:36 PM It's so spread out, it looks like it has a lot of sprawl. But nice pictures!
Sexas January 12th, 2008, 07:04 PM :)
-KwK345- January 12th, 2008, 07:16 PM amazing photos!!!!!!!!
Trae January 20th, 2008, 03:08 AM Houston is a very bland suburban city for the most part. People that live there don't see it that way though. It used to have a thriving old core. Part of the old downtown is still intact and major efforts have been taken to bring downtown back. A sleek light rail and historic district are percolating.
Houston is a fake. From a distance it looks like a big bustling city but in reality it is a big facade. Those skyscrapers might as well be cardboard cutouts. Nothing at street level matches whats above.
Keep in mind that Galveston should have been Houston until the hurricane. The history of Houston is basically in Galveston.
Houston is getting denser. What the hell are they going to do about all the awful strip malls littering the city? They render the city soulless.
Austin on the other hand gets it.
Wow. Shows how much you know (especially your last comment about Austin). Your clueless.
christos-greece April 13th, 2008, 07:23 PM Nice pics...
but its too modern. From your pics i see only glass-type towers. Oldest buildings (like San Antonio example) has?
fredcalif April 13th, 2008, 08:58 PM It's so spread out, it looks like it has a lot of sprawl. But nice pictures!
yes but a million time better than you beloved Miami.
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