I'm having Withdrawal Symptoms since IMRE stopped doing his daily update, well it is Friday Towmorrow so hopefully get a Hit then .......sorry update:banana:

^^ don't expect an update. Imre is drinking beer in Hungaria. So unless someone else in the marina area would like to make an update, it will be an boring friday

^^ Oh well it's Boring Friday then........

^^ LOL this site is sooo boring without Imre :goodnight

This site is filling up a bit again ... or at least not going down - today it looked like they're adding several more pumps in the corner where the water is deepest. I guess some leaks must be at a lower level.

^^ Thanks Tractor... Can you take some pics?

@BigDreamer: tell me about it! Without Imre many of the threads kinda became dry...

^^ newuser u become older in this site ;) i agree with u

They appear to have uncovered a new leak - I'll take a pic and post here in a bit. At least in this thread I'm not insulted!!

Click for today's pic (http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=d5rhnmx_0g84t9v)

http://docs.google.com/FilePage?id=d5rhnmx_1cvnsk4dm

Top right corner of the plot you can just see a row of pumps they installed yesterday to pump from the deepest part.
Just left of the breach you can see a river caused by a leak which is new ... I guess this will be fixed shortly. Water level seems consistent.

just to the left of the orange crane inside the pit there appears to be a pipe in which water is coming in.You can see the spray and foam. Where does that pipe come from it hasnt been there in previous photos

Actually I believe that is just a little river from a new leak they've uncovered and need to repair.

Thanks for update Tractor, How things change over a few days. Water level might be consistent but since they installed more pumps must mean more water pouring in then could be pummped out with the old setup.

I think, but obviously not certain, that when the large leak that is visible is fixed the water level will drop quickly. They were digging in the area of that leak to reveal it, so they can work on it. Will let you know what happens tomorrow!

So many people try to sell their Infinity Tower apartment.

Great pic, Tractor, good job!

So many people try to sell their Infinity Tower apartment.

Depends if your an investor in it for short run or if you actually love the tower and will wait as long as it takes to get a lovely home in a prestigious tower.

As far as i'm aware 1 Beds especailly are still highly sought after. But agian those people may not be aware of the reality on the ground.

Dubaimarina.................how many are up for sale and who's selling them.If you bought to make a quick buck and have been caught out then hard luck. If you bought it for the long term like I have then it doesnt matter too much as it will be well worth the wait. PS thanks to all those who keep posting the photos otherwise we would all be kept in the dark

They were removing some of the stone/rubble this morning but all activity appears to have stopped for the day ... will take another picture when something actually changes! That little river is still flowing.

That is worrying. I mean the water still comming in.

strange thing to me is that its a pipe that is leading the water to the plot surely tehy could have maybe tried to divert the water away from the plot?

I guess the pressure of the water wouldnt really lead it out of the plot , too high..

They were removing some of the stone/rubble this morning but all activity appears to have stopped for the day ... will take another picture when something actually changes! That little river is still flowing.

Can you judge how deep is the leak and which side is it actually happening?

Best I can do:

http://docs.google.com/FilePage?id=d5rhnmx_372nwvtdx

could this just be teh same leaks from befoew but with a pipe guiding the water.

Nots why the pipe is being used , to make sure the area around the leak is dry enough to work in and fix the leak.

We are still not at the point of construiction when the problem occured.

How long before we put back in ON HOLD ?

I don't understand where that water can be coming from is it coming below the Metal Wall type thing they constructed. Seams a quite a distance from the marina.

Hopefully when IMRE is back he can get closer to the source. Thanks fot the Pictures anyway Tractor

They've been working quite a lot on the site recently and I *think* that tomorrow morning I will have a nice pic showing very little water left.

There are indeed leaks coming through the metal 'wall' you call it, but they need to expose these before they can fix them. I think they've done this for the most part.

I have it from a good source there "may" be another delay in the payment schedule.. Not sure how long just that it is being thought about...

They're currently pile-driving another piece of metal into the reinforcements - I guess in an effort to cut off one of the leaks.

Very little water left and they've partially excavated the buried machine

Thanks for the updates Tractor

You're welcome!

They're pretty active these days ... i think they'll be revealing the piles in a week or two.

Taken this morning (before piling):
http://docs.google.com/FilePage?id=d5rhnmx_72xtx75d9

^^ notice the water level is reducing!!!

where you taking these pics from , Grovesnor house Cafe / Bar?

And yes the water is coming down so not sure why I was told that the payments maybe changed maybe becuase they want to get to the same point they were at before the intial porblem occured....

looks like it'll take another 3-4 months before things can be back to the way they were? that would put the construction behind by exactly one year.

Agree i think earliest work could comence on structure would be Jan 2008...Which means completion / handover at the earleist would be early 2011. Just when Damac Heights will begin consturction

Yes! Delay is beyond the 3 months I originally guessed. Always the optomist :bash:

Not sure when this will be completed as it is linked to The Torch completion minus 1 week :lol:

Yes! Delay is beyond the 3 months I originally guessed. Always the optomist :bash:

Not sure when this will be completed as it is linked to The Torch completion minus 1 week :lol:

True Blue.........are you crazy ???


Infinity will be finished well before the Torch. :lol:

I have it from a good source there "may" be another delay in the payment schedule.. Not sure how long just that it is being thought about...

I have also been told this by Cayan. They also E-mailed me a picture of the site it's the same one which tractor published!! Maybe they read this forum too. Work is going to speed up after next week when holidays are over.:banana:

Oh great - does anyone know how to put a watermark on photos on a Mac?

Photoshop?

Sadly I don't have it.

Nothing happening anywhere on the Marina today that I could see ... except for Ocean Heights believe it or not!

I have also been told this by Cayan. They also E-mailed me a picture of the site it's the same one which tractor published!! Maybe they read this forum too. Work is going to speed up after next week when holidays are over.:banana:

^^ Every developer, every real estate agent, every project manager in Dubai reads this forum.

Sadly I don't have it.

Nothing happening anywhere on the Marina today that I could see ... except for Ocean Heights believe it or not!

It's Eid a National Holiday, even Ocean Heights should have no workers DAMAC trying to make up time

^^Latest version of Graphic Convertor will do it--a better progam than Photoshop for the non-professional user and only $29 shareware.

There is some freeware watermark programe for Mac.. i can't rememer the name.. sorry. will look it up.

Really.. so many people look at this forum.. and steal their stuff :bash:
incredible..

the site looks still like there is a lot to do left.. imo ..

the site looks still like there is a lot to do left.. imo ..

IMO, the site looks like there is still a lot left to do ... :bash:

incredible ... can't you adjust your thoughts to the language you're supposed to express them. :ohno:












:D

Way to make friends, altin d...

I hate him anyway..

^^ This that why when your in dubai you two always hook up

^^ This that why when your in dubai you two always hook up

many couples hate each other anyway :D

15/Oct/2007

Infinity Tower

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so TrueBlue or Traktor, could u please explain to the idiots what is happening on these pictures?

Welcome back, Imre!!

Cat and Hitachi are now feeding on the dead Komatsu!

More excavation, less water ingress and quite interesting is the diesel pile driver installing rows of piles in the marina walk zone. This could be to smash through the fabled culvert and seal it off.

Water problem looks to be well under control now. Next they need to make sure the anchors are good before they can remove the ballast. Then the construction can get underway again.

Thanks Imre, you have been sorely missed!

They've just lifted the buried and mangled digger out of the plot! Sadly I didn't have my camera.

^^ Did it start up ok :rofl:

It was washed down and very quickly taken away on the back of a very large truck ... it looked pretty deformed!

I was joking, maybe it's been moved to Ocean Heights Plot to help speed up progress.

It's Scrap metal, why would you wash it

maybe it will and should be kept as a Museum piece , about how Dubai was built , that is one thing Dubai will lack Museums , sorry about taking convo off track

At least the digger is out poor thing been there for all that time all alone in the water..

True Blue, I think we had another breach, this time in Culture Village: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=349574&page=7

I doubt it's deliberate. :runaway:

No doubt that digger will be sold for scrap metal to India and probably end up playing "lead digger" on a Navi Mumbai high-rise site a week later!

True Blue, I think we had another breach, this time in Culture Village: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=349574&page=7

I doubt it's deliberate. :runaway:


This reminds me of a certain someone's prediction that with all the water in dubai's onshore projects, sooner or later Dubai will be flooded :runaway:

Komatsu left the site:)

24/October/2007

Infinity Tower

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Less Rubble in there thats for sure, Some water still getting in but no doubt that will be gone soon and then............We'll be ready to goto Infinity and Beyond.....Whilst DAMAC try to fins out what excuse they can use to say why consturction on DAMAC Heights has not begun.

Thanks for your Pic updates IMRE

Water is still pissing into that site.

I have read all the technical explanations of what people think is going on, but the fact is they still cant stop water leaking from the marina onto the site.

As long as pressures are different on each side of the wall this will happen, surely ?

I expect that we will hear something from Cayan within the next few days as main construction was due to start by the end of this month. Watch this space..

Yeah lets hope its good news not bad..

Just read on shoreline thread that there is a problem with 2 basement carparks that are leaking so badly they can't be used. :runaway:

BTW that crawler crane is a bute, wonder if they got it with the insurance money :lol:

Better having problem now then when my Lada is parked in the basement

Infinity payments have been delayed again.

Better having problem now then when my Lada is parked in the basement

I thought you were more of a Trabant kind of guy.

Infinity payments have been delayed again.

Have you had a letter or an email to say this and is this official now as i heard smilar but not had conformation.

Does it say for how long ???

I've sent you a pm.

estimated completion date June 2010

estimated number of misleading estimates: Very high.

the next payment has officially been delayed.

^^ Why? I thought everything's going well and on schedule here?

^^ Well things are moving as we can see from pictures but unlike dodgy developers Cayan has decided to move payment schedule in line with the new completion date.

Which we all expected after the Water issue

02/Nov/2007

Infinity Tower

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Two words , Not Good ...

They have delayed the payments but I am not best pleassed to be sat here waiting for this to be sorted who knows that it will be sorted in 6 months or not even then

I asked 2 workers (APCC) there and they said it may be ready end of December.
after excavation works and coming an "engineer" team for checking the piling quality and after nobody knows...

estimated number of misleading estimates: Very high.
Only relaying estimated dated given to me with rescheduled payments plan! Wasn't meant to be misleading only helpfull.

Welcome to the forum, Bluegirl - take no notice of ......

You?

09/November/2007

Infinity Tower

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Well I'm a bit lost concerning what they're doing now apart from removing dirt from the plot ... anyone?

Seems to be taking such a long time to just remove the dirt from this plot. Any news from the developer?

News from the developer is

1. payment which was due in Nov 2007 , pushed back to June 2008

2. Completion date which was Dec 2008 Pushed back to June 2010

Well a letter, Delaying this months Payment which stated there is some work to do after clearing, they carrying out extra work to stop it happening again. after which piles will be checked etc.

So i think thing will seam slow for a few months, whilst they doing test etc.

:ohno: so many problems with this plot.

found this on the net !! (not my work)

http://www.uploading.com/files/TUMJVCE6/Chef_y_problerme.pps.html

^^ The picture in their of the water rushing in is just amazing. If anyone had been in there then for sure they would have died.

Anyway IMRE when your next in area can we get a pic of whats happening....

23/November/2007

Infinity Tower, still fighting with the water

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Thanks IMRE for pictures, well at least they working on the problem even on a Friday.

Are they not Anchoring the wall with that machine...........Ture Blue might be able to tell us whats happening

23/November/2007

Infinity Tower

VWCvJLguOrk

still under major water surgery !!!! i Saw alot of fisher man around this area lol

Thanks for posting the video link Imre. It looks as if it's getting worse on site, not better.

Still water problems. Man this sucks. When do you think things will be back on track and they can resume work on the actual tower instead of the wall? Its been so long.

Getting on with the anchors again. Surprising how strong the water ingress is in this area, must mean there are plenty of voids behind the wall for water to flow so freely. I thought the grouting would have stemmed things a bit better.

The problem has always been restricted to this part of the wall. The water is always finding its way in somewhere and I wonder if when they drill in the anchors they are drilling through this alleged culvert which is then spewing water back through the anchor points. Almost like hammering a nail into a wall and finding there is a pipe behind the plaster.

^^ So i was right they are anchoring the wall. We don't know if they done Grouting yet or not having water behind the wall from now till the end of the life of the tower would that not affect the Concrete.......i suppose not as normal marina wall is in same position.

Lets hope the job is done proper and not a cowboy job........although Dubai is quite far off from cowboy country.

Do they have Government or Municipality inspectors who check work is done to say International Standard throughout the build or is the only check when completion occurs......?

Do they have Government or Municipality inspectors who check work is done to say International Standard throughout the build or is the only check when completion occurs......?

Even better, they have world renouned consultants with heafty professional
indemnity insurance.

I expect they will construct another concrete wall for the basement and fill the gap between the two with more concrete. No way Infinity residents will want to see a damp wall with leaking anchors next to their new Audi A5 coupes. Sorry, or R8 for penthouse owners :lol:

^^ What A5 ... this is Dubai and the Q7 has a place here.

Sorry Altin, due to restricted headroom in the basement carpark the Q7 won't fit. TT's, A5's and R8's only.

^^ But you just said that the new extra concrete wall they'll build, will be vertical, so I see no reason why the headroom will be effected in anyway. :dunno:


... oops, a new vertical basement wall will effect the length of the parking bays instead so a long vehicle like the Q7, still can't be parked.

Whatever the case, you guys are doomed. :ohno:

Not if you've got a Reliant Robin like us!

^^ What A5 ... this is Dubai and the Q7 has a place here.

:yes: don't forget to menion V12 TDI ..

^^ Not with diesel prices 20% more expensive then the 98 petrol.

28/November/2007

Infinity Tower

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^^ Not with diesel prices 20% more expensive then the 98 petrol.

yea but soon will drop ...

^^ What A5 ... this is Dubai and the Q7 has a place here.

Let me guess, chasing little cars with timid drivers off the road and them pursuing them over the desert dunes until you finally catch them and using your beastly curb weight + quattro to squish their car into the sand?:lol:

:yes: don't forget to menion V12 TDI ..

The V12 TDI is incredible and gets oustanding mileage when considering the hp and especially torque that thing puts out. The biggest (and best) TDI we've ever gotten in America is the V10 in the Touareg, which made 553 torque! My family had a loaded V8 T-Reg for two years, but decided we didn't really need an SUV and ditched it for a 2001 Lexus LS. Best thing about it was the adjustable air suspensin. Turn a dial on the center stack and you could raise or drop the car a few inches. It was awesome! Oh yeah, and the Nappa leather was great too! Wait, what is thread about?

06/December/2007

Infinity Tower

still fighting with the water , I saw some Arabtec workers at the site , maybe they will find out the best solution

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water coming again in this area:

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Thanks IMRE Once again, Next time get in there and stop the water :lol:

Seems to be a very slow and painful process to make this watertight and safe.

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btw...was pilling already completed when the accident happened? i can't remember :)

I thought they were ready with piling and just started to excavate the remaining soil between the piles.

edit: They indeed are.
Imre's update on page 25 shows the excavation a few days before the wall collapsed:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=11481847&postcount=491

On page 20 you'll see the piles being driven.
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=10338665&postcount=383

:)

probably have to do it all over again, right?

^^ not necessarily. Only the rebar of the piles which were cut of will be rusted, but the piles self will probably be alright. I guess they'll remove the rusted iron of the rebar and excavate a bit deeper around those piles. Then they'll cut the heads of those piles again. The connection between the piles and the raft won't be difficult to make. Maybe True Blue can give some more information. He's more experienced than I am.

^^ That's all they need to do if the corrosion is beyond the limits of blast cleaning and resin coating.

Obviously the biggest problem is the steady inflow of water which is coming mainly from the area of the breach. It looked like they were attempting to grout this area but this has failed and it looks like grey grout is now lying in areas of the floor. I also noticed a spring of water bubbling up in the middle of the floor. I can only assume that a pile has gone through this mistery culvert and created a passage for water to come to the surface. I also noted a larger anchor drilling rig now being used to drill further into the bedrock of the marina.

It is difficult to guess their next move without the benefit of the site study and data that they will have before them. I can only make an uninformed guess at what can be done next.

As the main problem is the water inflow from the pressure created by the level difference then it would seem obvious to remove that difference and reinstate equilibrium. In other words reflood the basement or backfill (more costly). This would stop the water flows and give them a chance for the grouting to work. Use high pressure grouting technique to fill every possible void below the basement and around the perimiter. Allow it to set for a week or so and pump it out again to check the result. They should by now have a good knowledge of the problem areas and therefore concentrate the grouting in these areas.

Just an interesting fact; creating a sealed basement of concrete when you have natural high water levels around you is like buiding a boat underwater. If you remove the water the boat will float to the surface. The engineers will always have to keep this in mind and may need to maintain part of the basement flooded until there is sufficient self weight to overcome the boyancy of the sealed basement structure.

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20/December/2007

Infinity Tower

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cost will rise with this disaster no doubt !!!

Doubt it .................thats why the construction industry takes out insurance to cover this type of delay etc etc

^^ Yeah, by a payout means higher premiums in the future for other projects, especially if the culprit is involved there as well.

hiya guys / girls . happy new year to everyone and hopefully 2008 will be a more fruitful year . does anyone know from cayan what there plans are to deal with the foundation work and what the timescales are . . :?:? thanks

04/January/2008

Infinity Tower

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where are all the machiery and workers gone! Any news fron Cayan on this?

^^ No News from Cayan. Looks like only one source of water now which seams to be where there is no marina wall.

Most of the plot apart from where water is seams to have been leveled out for main contractor i think or hope.

Quick question. Have they excavated yet to the depth they were at when the wall collapsed?

^^ :dunno:

From what i see it looks like they have, IMRE might have a better idea

Quick question. Have they excavated yet to the depth they were at when the wall collapsed?

yes, I think they reached almost the same level , just see the pics last Jan, before the accident:

26/01/2007

Infinity Tower

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I didn't realize they were fighting the water even before the wall collapsed.

yes, I think they reached almost the same level , just see the pics last Jan, before the accident:

26/01/2007

Infinity Tower

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True Blue..... why is there still water coming into the plot. And what do you think the time scale for them to get back to where they were last Feb will be. Any thoughts

^^ Basic hydraulics. There is a pressure head of water and a hole for it to pass through.

I have no idea when things will be restarted, my original guess was about 6 months so I'm a mile out already. Seriously, it should not be long now as the inflow is now contained in 1 area of the basement and if they know what their next move is going to be, they can get on with it.

I hope soon!

i wonder how the plot is looking now after the big rain :lol:

^^ Wet

18/January/2008

Infinity Tower

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whataa bad luck for them !!!!

Looks like they are getting close to winning the battle.

Dubai will be the pros at this pumping water thing. After this Culture Village and all the rain pumping that has been going on.:lol:

BTW todays my Birthday!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:banana::banana:

Happy Birthday rgarrison.

i wonder how the plot is looking now after the big rain :lol:

^^ Wetter :lol:

BTW todays my Birthday!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:banana::banana:

Happy Birthday man! :)

PS: What the hell are you doing on here on your birthday anyway? Didn't your fake ID work at the club, or what? :lol:

Happy Birthday man! :)

PS: What the hell are you doing on here on your birthday anyway? Didn't your fake ID work at the club, or what? :lol:

Haha. Theres nothin like pregaming before a big party while checking in on the site.:cheers:

Oh and no fake ID. Hahaha! Its my 23rd. I feel old:ohno:

Flooding in the Infinity Tower site means that construction won't resume until...?

^^ That's difficult to say, all previous predictions were wrong. But I hope that it will resume this year.

Touchet... I guess we're approaching the 1 year anniversary of the great flood. :ohno:

Very quiet on this thread, imagine if the developer involved was Dubai Select, then we would have 20 posts a day half from TB :cheers:

whats the liklihood of abandoning this project ?

abondaning totally unlikely, re-launching at higher prices and changes to design I would say likey.

Just look at the prices across the water at Promanade, the Infinity location is as good, and build costs much higher than when it was launched. So Cayan must be looking at the figures and see if they make any money to carry on as is!

Very quiet on this thread, imagine if the developer involved was Dubai Select, then we would have 20 posts a day half from TB :cheers:

:lol: Don't worry, its a age-old thing. The Scots have envied the English for centuries!

:lol: Don't worry, its a age-old thing. The Scots have envied the English for centuries!

I don't think it's down to envy Naz..........doesn't Cayan mean God in gaelic ?? :lol:

That’s not right, you ganging up on TB

D.S means…………. “Danger Signals”........:runaway:.....

Off to Dubai 2morrow. Will bring you pictures of Bay Central.:lol:

:lol: Don't worry, its a age-old thing. The Scots have envied the English for centuries!

We do envy the cash your football leagues generate from mediocre talent :lol:

Dont worry TB what kings and Queens of Scotland could not do in 100 years, good old home grown Gordon Brown has managed in a single decade,YES the financial downfall of England.

Poor Gordon, he will certainly be the fall guy for the last Scottish PM who disguised his family background for fear of retribution, who concealed his conservative upbringing because he couldn't make it there and who changed his religous beliefs when it no longer mattered. What a chameleon and fraudster, but who cares now?

Poor Gordon, your honesty will bring you down!

01/February/2008

Infinity Tower, some workers from the Arabtec (main contractor) at the site, they are making the fence and waiting for the miracle:)

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IMRE looks like they didn't like your aftershave.:lol: But thanks for the update as ever.......Trying to get an offical update so will post once i heard more.

the dewater worriors i guess !!

let's hope we hear some positive news soon.

thedubailife, I look forward to an official update :)

Cheers

Ok the update so far from Cayan are consturction compnay on site and when they heard more they will inform us, Which we already know that some Arabtec people on site.

I want to buy a studio in this tower, please email me at ogarbuz@hotmail.com

:omg:

you will have a nice portfolio:)

Wind Towers
Bay Central
Marina Pinnacle
Orra Marina
Infinity

maybe Botanica? :cheers:

Imre, be patient..... his list will include all towers in Dubai Marina and JLT

yes, and after going to the Sports City and Jumeirah Village:)

http://i25.tinypic.com/m75kyu.jpg

I want to buy a studio in this tower, please email me at ogarbuz@hotmail.com

go to the investments thread so that you can narrow ur choices down...it would be more helpful for u

I want to buy a studio in this tower, please email me at ogarbuz@hotmail.com

Errm you'll be lucky if you can get one. The whole tower has two studio on the 5th floor, everything else is 1 beds and above

Visit http://www.infinitytower.com/ and view plan's by design under living by design.

That gives you more info. Also always best posting these thing on investment thread

COMPANIES

Cayan
United Arab Emirates
Company Type: Owner, Property Developer
Contact No.: 971-4-3619333
Notes: Cayan Investment & Development Company is a strategic partner to Palma Real Estate.


Emaar Properties PJSC
United Arab Emirates
Company Type: Owner, Property Developer
Scope of Work: Master Developers.
Contact No.: 971-4-3673333

Skidmore, Owings & Merrill (SOM)
United States
Company Type: Consultant, Architectural
Contact No.: 1-312-5549090

DOS Architects
United Kingdom
Company Type: Consultant, Architectural
Contact No.: 44-203-2190056

Whitby & Bird (Ramboll Group) (Dubai)
United Arab Emirates
Company Type: Consultant, Design
Contact No.: 971-4-3977475

Khatib & Alami Consolidated Engineering Co. (Dubai)
United Arab Emirates
Company Type: Consultant, Lead
Scope of Work: MEP done in house.
Contact No.: 971-4-2222203

Project Analysis & Control Systems Co. WLL (PROJACS) (Dubai)
United Arab Emirates
Company Type: Consultant, Project Management
Contact No.: 971-4-3432339

Currie & Brown (Dubai)
United Arab Emirates
Company Type: Consultant, Project Management
Contact No.: 971-4-2955198

El Seif Engineering Contracting LLC (ESEC) (Dubai)
United Arab Emirates
Company Type: Contractor, Main
Contact No.: 971-4-3328081
Notes: Joint venture with Arabtec Construction LLC (Dubai).

Arabtec Construction LLC (Dubai)
United Arab Emirates
Company Type: Contractor, Main
Contact No.: 971-4-3400700
Notes: Awarded USD 191 million contract. Joint venture with El Seif Engineering Contracting LLC (ESEC) (Dubai).

Drake & Scull International (DSI) LLC (Dubai)
United Arab Emirates
Company Type: Contractor, MEP
Contact No.: 971-4-4313012
Notes: Awarded USD 40 million contract to supply, installation, testing and commissioning of the complete MEP works for the Tower beginning January 2007. It will also provide ventilation, a building management system, an automatic fire fighting system, a video intercom, central emergency lighting, CCTV and control security systems.

Al Dhafra Piling Contracting Est. (APCC) (Dubai)
United Arab Emirates
Company Type: Contractor, Piling
Contact No.: 971-4-2679170
Notes: Awarded an USD 11 million contract for enabling works.

Khansaheb Sykes
United Arab Emirates
Company Type: Sub-Contractor, General Contractor
Scope of Work: Dewatering.
Contact No.: 971-4-3472120

Tamweel Home Finance PJSC (Dubai)
United Arab Emirates
Company Type: Financial Institution, Finance Company
Contact No.: 971-4-2952259

Amlak Financing Co.
United Arab Emirates
Company Type: Financial Institution, Finance Company
Contact No.: 971-4-3673120


NOTES

February 14, 2008
Enabling work has been completed.

January 02, 2008
Structural work will start by March 2008.

January 02, 2008
Foundation work in progress.

January 17, 2007
Also refer to PRJAE0402280 - DUBAI MARINA.

May 11, 2006
Main contractor is expected to be awarded by June 2006.

November 13, 2005
www.infinitytower.com

I forgot this:

Estimated Completion: Mar, 2011

What? before the Torch :lol:

I was there on Friday but they said no pics, I said ok I will come back when rising.

same as the Elite Residence.

I see they have erected a hoarding around the site now to keep prying eyes away.

does this mean that they have stopped the leaks into the site and that it is now completely dry and ready to start

The leaks may not be fully cured but looks like they are going for it now.

I see they have erected a hoarding around the site now to keep prying eyes away.

I see Tractor is back...perhaps he could find a spot that could see over the fence? :)

^^ Or we need Dubai_Lover back in town taking picture, as he once was. No fence, no mater how tall would stop him from picking in. :laugh:

I can get a great view, although to be honest there's not much to look at! Will sort you guys out tomorrow with a photo.

I feel like a drug dealer ;)

It does not matter if there is not anything much to look at. We need photos!

http://www.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/party/party0022.gif

does this mean that they have stopped the leaks into the site and that it is now completely dry and ready to start

No, this probably means more delays. I don't see why people aren't allowed to take pictures and see the construction progress unless nothing is happening of course.

http://docs.google.com/File?id=d5rhnmx_24gr958chb

There are lots of workers gathered around where the breach is - no idea what they're up to, however.

Finally looks as though the site is dry......at last

:rock:Congratulations to the developer

construction can continue now i hope...

i really hope all marina constructions completed by 2011 GO inifinity Tower ...

Does anyone think that this tower will not be built? Is there a possibility it could be scrapped or the design changed?

Can actually see more at night ... seems they are reinforcing the breach area. There is lots going on, just nothing very obvious to the eye, from a distance.
http://docs.google.com/File?id=d5rhnmx_36wpzscbgq

Thx for the great updates Tractor!!! :eek: :master:

Hope they put the mudd out soon!!!

Thanks for the update Tractor......are the actually working at night or are lights in prepartation of when construction begins which we have heard is March.

No, they do very little at night ... if anything at all! No machines move, that's for sure.

Oh, and they're exposing the piles now (bottom of the plot as seen in my photo) and drilling the tops off them. Things are definitely moving forward, albeit slowly.

Spoke to a Cayan lady at Arabian show in London today, She claimed the piles have been assessed by international experts and they are good and no need to be redone. Construction to start soon,completion 2010!

The remaining 20% unreleased tower will be released soon

Spoke to a Cayan lady at Arabian show in London today, She claimed the piles have been assessed by international experts and they are good and no need to be redone. Construction to start soon,completion 2010!

The remaining 20% unreleased tower will be released soon


Great news. :banana:

Will be interesting to compare the prices of the newly released units with those first sold.

Spoke to a Cayan lady at Arabian show in London today, She claimed the piles have been assessed by international experts and they are good and no need to be redone. Construction to start soon,completion 2010!

The remaining 20% unreleased tower will be released soon

They could have saved a lot of money and just read this thread. (Only kidding)

As stated before water is not a problem only possible problem would be excessive corrosion on rebar.

They really need to start moving before the Torch gets too far ahead.

More obvious progress:

http://docs.google.com/FilePage?id=d5rhnmx_41jf45c6hq

Will be interesting to compare the prices of the newly released units with those first sold.


she promised to email the prices when she is back in Dubai so let you know when I get it. However they had a few resale flats at 30% premium

This is great News. At last it is back on track.^^

Thanks for the picture update Tractor

With regards to resale prices Bought a 1 bed on 20th floor at Launch, no discount for 981000 which is a 06 type now the equivalent on the 10th floor is going for 1.4mil and the same layout but next door a 07 is going for 1.48 Mill

Which means the premium would be 50% but in reality the 30% is probaly more realistic.

The new Dubai Marina map confirms that there is another plot between Infinity and the bridge, blocking most of the sea views.

^^ Well since i'm looking towards GH i don't care :lol:

The new Dubai Marina map confirms that there is another plot between Infinity and the bridge, blocking most of the sea views.

do u have the map...? can u pm me?

Great news, indeed. We can just hope they do it so fast as they say!

Thinking also on Damac Heights!!!!

do u have the map...? can u pm me?

Now you are becoming another six453 :ohno:

finally they're digging again :cheers:

^^Hope the wall will not break again!!! If this should happen I'm playing Hangman :D:D:D:D:D

Unit No No of Bedrooms Size(sqm) Size (sqft) View Original Price Selling Price Immediate Payment

805 2 BR Apartment 134 1,438 Prime Marina 1,639,800 2,735,186 1,751,306
703 2 BR Apartment 142 1,527 Prime Marina View 1,578,600 2,145,317 1,198,157
3201 2 BR Apartment 142 1,527 Prime Sea 1,966,200 2,773,325 1,593,605
1006 1 BR Apartment 72.9 784 Prime Marina View 809,460 1,408,541 922,865
5309 2 BR Duplex 155.6 784 Prime Sea 2,561,760 3,296,729 1,759,673
1103 2 BR Apartment 142 1,528 Prime Marina 1,420,740 2,223,458 1,371,014
1603 2 BR Apartment 142 1,528 Prime Marina 1,494,180 2,338,392 1,441,884
3003 2 BR Apartment 142 1527 Prime Marina 2,150,190 2,811,373 1,521,259
1303 2 BR Apartment 142 1,527 Prime Marina 1,668,000 2,319,354 1,318,554

Gorilla ......what is the source of your info...thanks

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Thx for the picture scoot but it's to far away for my eyes :D:D:D:D!!!!!!

Ya I almost didn't post this one...hopefully I can reshoot it in the weekend with my better camera :)

You can see the new bridge coming along too, Thanks for the pic anyway

Gorilla ......what is the source of your info...thanks


Cayan Dubai Office these are available through them

This is an interesting site . the link takes you straight to the infinity page but if you play around with it you can see how much they reckon each tower is selling at, how much each area psf property is worth and whether or not property is going up or down. Worth a look anyway
http://www.alineah.com/other_apartments/506_1/page_1.htm

the home page http://www.alineah.com/market_analysis.asp

Ya I almost didn't post this one...hopefully I can reshoot it in the weekend with my better camera :)


Yes, please!!!! :banana::banana::banana:

Dear All,
I have noticed the prices for all the Infinity Tower appartments has considerable gone up in the properties section of the Gulf News classifieds this week. I assume this is a very good sign. I would appreciate if anyone would post an updated photo of the construction site. Thanks. :)

Dear All,
I have noticed the prices for all the Infinity Tower appartments has considerable gone up in the properties section of the Gulf News classifieds this week. I assume this is a very good sign. I would appreciate if anyone would post an updated photo of the construction site. Thanks. :)

what has provoked the price rise do you know ????

There being no more water in its foundations may be something to do with it, but I think its the general upward trend in Dubai property prices that may be your answer.

There being no more water in its foundations may be something to do with it, but I think its the general upward trend in Dubai property prices that may be your answer.

It could be a mixture of both. The price of the Infinity Tower units has been kept down the past year due to the fact that the project was on hold and some investors were just getting impatient while buyers were worried to venture in.
So, I guess it is now just reflecting the latest developments on site and compensating for its price stagnation of last year by catching up with the rising Dubai market..
I assume we might see more price jumps once they pass the ground work stage and actualy the building takes shape. I just hope things go smoother from here on.
I would appreciate if Tractor or Scoot would post some updated pics of the site.

^^ And i will appreciate if you would be talking less about prices, buyers, sellers and market conditions.

I am generally appreciative of this project and I appreciate the hard times that the developer has had to go through. I am happy there is an appreciation in the price of the units, and I think everyone that told me to sell can appreciate why I held onto my investment.

Hopefully, no more big problems.
:cheers:

Yes!!! If the wall doesn't break again they should be out of ground into the next half year! :hm:

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Sale - good night in GH ??

Can see good progress here!! :okay: Maybe 2 months and they can begin the construction work on this one!!

In the pic above and many other on other plots also there always appears to be a generator pumping water into the marina. My question is for someone like trueblue who actually knows what he is talking about and not someone taking a wild speculative guess, is.... where does this water originate from are there underground wells or similar.thanks

^^ Water Table

^^ A bit of percolation also :)

Most of the "leaking" seems to be sorted as the pumps are no longer pumping in the left of the picture. What I did notice in the bottom left looks like an Auger Rig either doing some more shoring or more bearing piles.

The pump on the bottom right looks like the well point vacuum pump which deals with the ground water table. So things look under control (7 months after I estimated) Always the optomist :D

Yes, there is a rig making piles - I guess they hadn't quite finished before the flood. Only a small area to do.

Piling was finished I'm sure. This must be remedial piling on an area affected by, or the cause of the breach.

Yes, thought so too!! Soon they start rising. Finally!!!

2-3 months maybe

Let's hope it starts going in the right direction.. any chances of them making up any of the lost time.. or am i too much of an optimist to think Cayan may try and speed things up a little bit

Sale - good night in GH ??

Yes,, But when you sit at the window,, at least 30 people come up and try and take a picture of the palm...

Ginsing Dragon is my fav...

CAYAN's CEO in a recent interview said that the phase 2 of offerings on the tower, would be at 5,000 AED/sq-ft.

HUH???

Buy a resale quickly then.

How can these fools start asking AED5,000 a sqft when they can't even get the construction process underway to satisfy the existing buyers.

But maybe by the time this tower rises out of the ground everywhere else will be selling for AED15K !

Anyone got a link to the quoted article?

:lol: Who the hell would pay 5000 psf when you can buy similar for 1500 psf in resale.

:lol: Who the hell would pay 5000 psf when you can buy similar for 1500 psf in resale.

I have checked somewhat serious recently - I would say 2000 psf in resale - but you are absolutely right. 5000 psf is pure imagination. I will not be surprised to see a launch of 3000 psf.

when is this new phase 2 being released. Is there a date and how many apartments will be available.I cant see how they can release the new ones at such a high price when there are plenty of resales about

I cant see how they can release the new ones at such a high price when there are plenty of resales about

Of course they can..... but sales will not be as fast as before..... do your math.... increasing costs of constructions, lacking of labour forces..... prices off plan will increase.....

I have done my maths ????? and can buy a resale ( still off plan because nothing is built yet) for 1900psf so it doesnt matter what the costruction costs etc etc etc are because no one will buy from Cayan for more than a resale costs...... well not unless they are completely bonkers. nuff said

Was the interview on April the 1st or maybe it's for penthouses which are aimed at people who probably think 5000 psf is equal to a poor mans 1900 psf. i.e people who have abutler to wipe there noses whne they have a cold :)

Here is the link to the interview....

http://www.business24-7.ae/cs/article_show_mainh1_story.aspx?HeadlineID=4853

on of the most amazing buildings i ve ever seen!

Here is the link to the interview....

http://www.business24-7.ae/cs/article_show_mainh1_story.aspx?HeadlineID=4853

The pot calling the kettle black... :nuts:

What a joke. This Cayan CEO is complaining about lack of transparency in the Dubai property market. What about the wool his own company is pulling over the sheep's eyes. In every article I've seen regarding Cayan's projects they've only boasted about this or that great thing they have and never even mentioned the problems with Infinity. Now, they have the gall to say they are going to be charging AED 5000 psf.

This braggard, full of itself company needs to be dragged through the mud like Damac. At AED 5000 psf, a 1000 sqft 1-bedroom apartment would cost AED 5,000,000. What fool would pay this and who is this CEO to talk about charging these kinds of prices when they don't even know how to keep water out of their plot. They'd better learn how to build economically or get out of the business.

Basically, these fool developers have only now started to realize they can't turn rich over night just because they can turn out some fancy plans and then start collecting heaps of money from people five years before delivering anything. They all want only to become quick billionaires not realizing that they have to actually use that money to build something. Now that their 300% profit margins are starting to dwindle--basically because they don't know jack about building buildings--they think they can just up the prices 10X what they were before. Give me a break!

http://i30.tinypic.com/imng9u.jpg

The pot calling the kettle black... :nuts:

What a joke. This Cayan CEO is complaining about lack of transparency in the Dubai property market. What about the wool his own company is pulling over the sheep's eyes. In every article I've seen regarding Cayan's projects they've only boasted about this or that great thing they have and never even mentioned the problems with Infinity. Now, they have the gall to say they are going to be charging AED 5000 psf.

This braggard, full of itself company needs to be dragged through the mud like Damac. At AED 5000 psf, a 1000 sqft 1-bedroom apartment would cost AED 5,000,000. What fool would pay this and who is this CEO to talk about charging these kinds of prices when they don't even know how to keep water out of their plot. They'd better learn how to build economically or get out of the business.

Basically, these fool developers have only now started to realize they can't turn rich over night just because they can turn out some fancy plans and then start collecting heaps of money from people five years before delivering anything. They all want only to become quick billionaires not realizing that they have to actually use that money to build something. Now that their 300% profit margins are starting to dwindle--basically because they don't know jack about building buildings--they think they can just up the prices 10X what they were before. Give me a break!

Get off the fence GoDubai - say what you mean!!!

.......no but seriously, - this needed to be said. AED 5,000 per sq ft - it's total bollox isn't it! I'm sure they'll get their cum uppance on this project. It doesn't have a good feel about it right now. They may well have bitten off more than they can chew! I would like to see it built - just because it's a cool design - but these may not be the people to get it done at the end of the day.

once the plot in front and promenade is developed this tower will hardly have any sea views so the only justification is tower design, surely that's more valuable to the neghbours than people inside !!!!