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High Times October 7th, 2008, 11:01 PM Cayan has now changed Completion date on their website to - June 2011 for Infinity.
I would be interested to hear my favourite Scotsmans view on weather this is feasible/achievable/realistic ?
ALKUN October 7th, 2008, 11:51 PM AWESOME TOWER.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v705/altind/P1000774.jpg
True Blue October 8th, 2008, 12:02 AM I would be interested to hear my favourite Scotsmans view on weather this is feasible/achievable/realistic ?
While we are waiting, maybe I can offer an opinion. (BTW it's pissing down at the moment)
Feb 2011 the earliest completion of the structure, as for finishing add 12 -18months. Of course this is just a guess for a bit of fun.
Arabtec are one of the best and have been behind some of the fastest concrete framed high rises in the region. Without checking i'm sure they did The Index and Sky Gardens which seemed to go very well. So who knows at this stage if June 2011 is possible or not? In 1 year it will be a clearer picture.
Imre October 8th, 2008, 07:37 AM Sky Gardens was Arabtec but The Index is Multiplex.
Dubai_Steve October 9th, 2008, 01:21 AM This press release is crazy :nuts: :lol:
http://www.propertywire.com/news/middle-east/infinity-tower-dubai-delayed-200810081804.html
No reasons have been given for the delay but in the current fluctuating market place and with developers facing labour shortages and soaring construction costs it has not come as a huge surprise to the construction industry.
A company spokesman refused to say what has caused the delay or comment on recent stoppages.
A Cayan Investment and Development spokesman confirmed the delay but also declined to offer any further comment on the reasons.
True Blue October 9th, 2008, 01:35 AM ^^:lol: Almost as crazy as insisting that a completely unrealistic completion date is still going to be acheived.
Of course we all know what caused the delay at Infinity but does anyone know the reason for the delay at Bay Central?
I need to go now and finish that effigy of DS I made out of all their employment refusals :nuts:
thedubailife October 9th, 2008, 01:48 PM Got an update letter of Cayan, with a picture of when the wter came in and a pic from the 19th of Sept 2008
The say the core is above ground which we can confirm, they also mention arabtec did 3 months worth of work in 40 days so half the time. This was referring to slab and the core.
We'll see how thing progress can't take as long as ocean heights since launch
234sale October 13th, 2008, 02:18 PM http://i33.tinypic.com/284e91.jpg
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jeetha October 13th, 2008, 11:05 PM [Dubai Marina, October 13, 2008] - Americal Architects select 114 buildings in 38 nations to win the world’s most prestigious 2008 International Architecture Awards
The Chicago Athenaeum: Museum of Architecture and Design and Metropolitan Arts Press Ltd. and co-presented by The European Centre for Architecture Art Design and Urban Studies, announce one hundred and fourteen (114) new distinguished projects and urban schemes selected in this year’s prestigious International Architecture Awards® program for 2008. Infinity Tower, developed by Cayan, is among the award winners.
Three awards were given to projects in Poland, Spain and UAE; in the UAE the sole winner was Infinity Tower , developed by Cayan.
The International Architecture Awards have become a global event of an unprecedented scale—the most important barometer for the future direction of new architectural design and thinking today—celebrating, recognizing, and highlighting the world’s foremost architectural solutions for the designs of new skyscrapers, corporate buildings, institutions, arts facilities, airports, private homes, industrial structures, and urban planning projects from Paris to Hong Kong.
The Awards Program draws important public and professional focus for the celebration and recognition of the most important key buildings produced in this decade, underscoring the highest level of imagination and inspiration of the “best of the best” architectural minds practicing design today. The selected projects challenge new approaches to design that are beyond the envelope of the everyday, while providing cities with key civic
building that celebrate and harmonize architecture as a high art while finding answers to the complicated problems of environment, social context, improving quality of life, and sustainability.
Good design is all around us," comments jury member, Joseph E. MacIsaac, President, Knoll International. "And fortunately for us," he continues, "with the quality of the architectural projects represented in the 2008 International Architects Awards, good design will continue to enrich the places we live, work, eat, sleep, worship and play. “
Infinity tower has a unique exterior as the tower twists 90 degrees into the sky and is ideally located on the exquisite Dubai Marina where it overlooks the marina, the sea and The Palm.
Developed by Cayan, Infinity is among 5 other projects which Cayan is developing on Dubai Marina. Cayan has a portfolio of 4 completed projects on the Marina.
Stephan23 October 19th, 2008, 06:59 PM :okay:
Two days ago, again from top of The Harbour:
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http://i459.photobucket.com/albums/qq312/dennissegeren/Burj%20Dubai/Overig%20Dubai/Infinity1.jpg
:cheers:
helghast October 24th, 2008, 07:06 PM New completion date
December 2011
http://www.constructionweekonline.com/article-3684-new_completion_date_for_infinity_tower/
lovedubai October 24th, 2008, 11:42 PM This isn't a new date - it's been December 2011 for months. We received official notification in writing back in May this year.
melkor October 27th, 2008, 12:06 PM http://i359.photobucket.com/albums/oo34/melkor_gds/IMG_0661.jpg?t=1225101952
rbj October 27th, 2008, 01:41 PM Thank to all of you who take time to keep us all updated with photos of Infinity, living in london it really helps to keep me updated, and also gives me a new screen saver. cheers
Stephan23 November 1st, 2008, 11:44 AM Left side !!
http://i359.photobucket.com/albums/oo34/melkor_gds/IMG_0678.jpg?t=1225150758
234sale November 1st, 2008, 04:45 PM http://i37.tinypic.com/2v81v7q.jpg
True Blue November 1st, 2008, 07:56 PM ^^ Thanks Mr Sale,
That's another basement floor in 2 weeks. Arabtec are not messing about here. Those large props will be coming out soon
Check out the size of their site hutting, it's about the size of a small village.
234sale November 1st, 2008, 08:20 PM No reason for arabtec to delay.. Get the job done,, do it well, keep reputation.
Arabtec is probably best contactor in UAE.. imo
True Blue November 1st, 2008, 08:29 PM Al Naboodah Laing O'Rourke is numero uno because of the Celtic (pronounced Keltic) alliance of Scottish and Irish cleverly mixed in with local Arabs. IMO :)
Arabtec very close second and DCE somewhere at the bottom:lol:
Hollie Maea November 2nd, 2008, 08:04 AM http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/92/infinitycu8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
From Picasa.
234sale November 2nd, 2008, 08:14 AM Great shot.. Going to come up fast. I was so worried that it couldn't be built with all the intial problems.
Completion 2nd qtr 2011 ?
rbj November 2nd, 2008, 09:01 AM Can anyone tell me how big this water table is ?????? There have been 2 or 3 pipes pumping water into the marina for months 24/7, where is it all coming from and when will it finish. I dont understand where it is all coming from. Thanks
thedubailife November 3rd, 2008, 10:34 PM ^^ Sounds like a job for True Blue
True Blue November 4th, 2008, 01:14 AM The water table is the level of the water in the soil. In this case it's sand which lets water move around freely.
As Infinity is right on the water's edge, I would bet my house that the water table is level with the water in the marina. Pumping allows temporary relief by lowering it slightly depending on how many pumps and well points are installed.
So why do they pump it? Simple, when the concrete basement shell is formed watertight it becomes a boat and wants to float in the water. That is not good so they must pump down the water table untill the weight of the structure is more than the weight of the water it displaces. Concrete is only 2.4 times the weight of water so that takes many cubic metres of concrete to overcome the effect of buoyancy.
Simple!:)
rbj November 5th, 2008, 11:57 PM thanks true blue that explains it a bit for me
jarmenkell November 6th, 2008, 08:46 AM http://i35.tinypic.com/2a6topi.jpg
dubaiquote November 7th, 2008, 07:18 PM Check this link out ,, it will crack you up, what is that all about ?
http://www.orange-property.com/property-details/the_infinity_tower/D1546?gclid=CPeb0oXJ45YCFRyS1Qod0gpBOQ
:lol:
AltinD November 7th, 2008, 10:55 PM They are APROVED Real Estate Agents :yes:
thedubailife November 8th, 2008, 12:25 AM ^^ I sure they are, thats why they mixed up the pictures and text
malec November 16th, 2008, 02:04 PM According to SOM this has only 73 floors and is 307m high.
http://som.com/content.cfm/infinity_tower
Stephan23 November 16th, 2008, 05:22 PM Ok, thx a lot malec !!
Stephan23 November 17th, 2008, 07:37 PM Changed at emporis !
dubaiquote November 20th, 2008, 02:05 PM Do Cayan have an escrow account for this project or doesnt it need one because of it started before the new law?
Dubai_Steve November 28th, 2008, 07:46 PM http://i34.tinypic.com/1z3tf1x.jpg
9714 November 28th, 2008, 08:19 PM nice pic, steve. can almost picture it twisting up.
arfie November 28th, 2008, 11:12 PM Is that fire below on the Torch on the lower floors :)
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rgarrison November 29th, 2008, 03:33 AM wow nice shot
Imre December 1st, 2008, 06:27 PM 01/December/2008
Infinity Tower
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thedubailife December 1st, 2008, 06:41 PM Thanks for the updates IMRE. Do you know if basement is at ground level now or not
CIPUS December 1st, 2008, 06:41 PM Wow, IMRE is back!:hi:
True Blue December 2nd, 2008, 12:18 AM Thanks for the updates IMRE. Do you know if basement is at ground level now or not
I'm going to hazard a guess that it is 1 level below judging by the height of the second tower pump.
thedubailife December 2nd, 2008, 04:13 PM ^^ Your probably right but then does that not mean since the 6th of Nov picture and now that only the core has grown. i.e no new basement level
True Blue December 3rd, 2008, 01:48 AM I can't say for sure as I can't see what is done. They might be 1 day away from a pour:dunno:
AltinD December 3rd, 2008, 05:40 PM ^^ Your probably right but then does that not mean since the 6th of Nov picture and now that only the core has grown. i.e no new basement level
The concrete pump is visible on Imre's pictures taken on December 1st. Where does the Nov 6th comes into picture?
thedubailife December 4th, 2008, 12:21 AM Post 1526 on 6th Nov shows it form different angle where it does appear the podium is just one below ground.
I was just asking if thats reached ground since then. It may not have done as podium floors take longer
I can see the pump you mention
True Blue December 4th, 2008, 12:33 AM ^^ Post 1526 looks 2 levels below ground. I'm gauging this from the level of the diagonal braces.
thedubailife December 4th, 2008, 01:06 AM Yes your right so i suppose with all the holidays etc i doubt it will be at ground until Jan 2009
AltinD December 4th, 2008, 05:44 PM ^^ Post 1526 looks 2 levels below ground. I'm gauging this from the level of the diagonal braces.
But on the post 1539, judging by the position of the concrete pump (that was not there on Nov 6th pic posted on 1526) they may have reached the ground level already, at least the top of the vertical pillars/columns.
We need an overhead shot to confirm/clarify :cheers:
thedubailife December 4th, 2008, 07:02 PM Yes IMRE feel like a drink in Bar 44 and take a few overhead pic's AltinD's treat:)
True Blue December 8th, 2008, 01:37 AM Passed this baby tonight in a cab, it is soaring into the clouds..................errr.....well....... the weather in Dubai is not so good right now so......err..... it's about 8 floors on the core.
I'll go for a pic tomorrow when the JD wears off.
AltinD December 9th, 2008, 01:30 AM Dec 8th
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thedubailife December 9th, 2008, 12:42 PM Thanks for update, AltinD and True Blue, Suppose not much work becasue of Eid
Housemartins December 11th, 2008, 08:19 PM 29th November:
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True Blue December 11th, 2008, 11:48 PM 8th Dec 08
Got escorted off the site when I pulled out my camera :lol: So unable to get any decent pics. There was signs of ramp walls cast at ground level so coming up nicely.
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thedubailife December 12th, 2008, 02:12 PM ^^ You needed to make a fake Cayan badge before you went just flash it say your the MD of the UK office or something.
Anyway thanks to everyone for updates
Imre December 17th, 2008, 06:00 PM 17/December/2008
Dubai Marina, tallest block
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THEPOINT December 18th, 2008, 12:03 AM 8th Dec 08
Got escorted off the site when I pulled out my camera :lol: So unable to get any decent pics. There was signs of ramp walls cast at ground level so coming up nicely.
http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/1115/p1010051zj8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
And I thought you had "CAYAN" tattooed on your forehead TB ! LOL Scandalous treatment of their No1 fan
Emir of Ketir December 18th, 2008, 02:49 PM Unbelievable, Infinity is rising out of the sand like Atlantis has risen from the sea. Never imagined that some of the boldest designs would survive the current crisis.
It seems the like of Arabtec & Co. are strong enough to brush off the crisis.
Infinity is by far one of the most ambitious projects in Dubai.
thedubailife December 18th, 2008, 05:22 PM ^^ Well it's being devleoped by Cayan who ahev already completed 4 of the 6 projects they had in the marina.
I think it will no doubt survive but construction could slow down if payemnts not made etc as Cayan sent a letter to all investors encouraging them to keep up payments on all projects otherwise there could be delays.
Anyway thanks for all the updates IMRE and co.
True Blue December 18th, 2008, 09:23 PM And I thought you had "CAYAN" tattooed on your forehead TB ! LOL Scandalous treatment of their No1 fan
^^:lol:
I'm really not their biggest fan, I'm a major fan of their projects, which are without a doubt the best designs in the region. As for the people, I could take them or leave them.
Anyway, it is Arabtec who have possession of the site and their security I came up against. I do admire Arabtec also :)
Dubai_Steve December 18th, 2008, 09:45 PM ***
True Blue December 18th, 2008, 09:58 PM ^^ Nice! ..:ohno:
Imre December 20th, 2008, 03:35 PM 20/December/2008
Infinity Tower
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Imre December 27th, 2008, 10:33 AM 27/December/2008
Infinity Tower
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diveksa December 27th, 2008, 08:35 PM Thank you Imre. I think the core speed is two floors per month.
True Blue December 27th, 2008, 10:57 PM It will look slow until the podium is complete then I'm expecting a floor every 5 days until May. From May - Sept a floor every 7 days.
Podium complete end March 2009.
12 floors above podium End May.
30 floors above podium End Sept.
48 floors above podium End Dec.
Topped out end April 2010.
Handed over June 2011. (1 week before The Torch:))
THEPOINT December 28th, 2008, 07:28 PM It will look slow until the podium is complete then I'm expecting a floor every 5 days until May. From May - Sept a floor every 7 days.
Podium complete end March 2009.
12 floors above podium End May.
30 floors above podium End Sept.
48 floors above podium End Dec.
Topped out end April 2010.
Handed over June 2011. (1 week before The Torch:))
Come on they CAN'T hand over before the Torch (as much as I admire Cayan) -you're just in a bad mood cos of the football aren't you
True Blue December 28th, 2008, 09:04 PM My hope is Infinity will complete before The Torch.
Nothing to do with Cayan or football it's Arabtec v's DCE, local old firm rivals:)
I love competition.
THEPOINT December 28th, 2008, 09:51 PM My hope is Infinity will complete before The Torch.
Nothing to do with Cayan or football it's Arabtec v's DCE, local old firm rivals:)
I love competition.
TB is Arabtec Celtic or Rangers though ?
Seriously now, Is Inifnity still for sale someone suggested to me that it is only 50% Sold ? Not that I can afford it but even so I love this tower
The build will be amazing I hope CAYAN (Sorry Arabtec !)will install time lapse camera so we can have video of construction at end ?
THEPOINT December 28th, 2008, 10:03 PM Just browsing and found
http://www.cayan.ae/search.php#listtop
Actually not bad pricing well under 2,000 aed psf and lovey views to GH and
1ST SIX TOWERS -not sure of Paymnet plan - but it might worth looking at ?
Construction will be finished only 1year after TT and Marinaview is unblockable unlike SEA VIEWS
Yousuf27 December 28th, 2008, 11:13 PM Come on they CAN'T hand over before the Torch (as much as I admire Cayan) -you're just in a bad mood cos of the football aren't you
No, he's still in a bad mood over this:-
"The developer of The Torch has acquired one of the strongest and most experienced teams with individuals in all the key roles who between them have financed, project managed, delivered and managed some of the best known developments in Dubai, including others on Dubai Marina itself. In particular the recruitment of a new Executive Director of Developments earlier this year who lead the development team at Emaar Properties prior to joining Select Group will enable both more accurate communication and more demonstrable progress towards completion"
Despite all those applications they still wont let him in and Giles just had to rub salt in the wounds on this forum.
You're a cruel man Giles Beswick!
Don't let the B******s get you down TB - hang on in there!!
234sale January 5th, 2009, 01:19 PM http://i40.tinypic.com/z1flc.jpg
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thedubailife January 5th, 2009, 01:22 PM Thanks for the update, Where was shot taken from MH?
234sale January 5th, 2009, 01:38 PM The Observatory.. Emirates Habour Hotel
Axel_F January 5th, 2009, 01:53 PM Wow! Podium is nearly over ground! :banana:
But its amazing how much water they still pumping out. Still problem with the water..?
bizzybonita January 5th, 2009, 05:03 PM Great shot 234Sale :)
Anjam January 6th, 2009, 02:38 AM The Observatory.. Emirates Habour Hotel
^^ Is it open access to all ?
234sale January 6th, 2009, 08:11 AM I go for lunch at one of their restaurants, then go upstairs to 52nd floor afterwards.
You get a 270degree view even, a full view of the palm, marina, jlt. Nice Hey.
If you check the photography section, we give away some good free locations.
lowey January 6th, 2009, 06:19 PM gee they are getting the core up pretty quick in comparison to the floors
thedubailife January 7th, 2009, 11:56 AM The Core is quite small and simple i suppose most towers it always ahead and podium will take a few months to be finished i think. They have slowed down progress on core i think ?
Imre January 8th, 2009, 02:43 PM 08/January/2009
Infinity Tower
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sakr January 18th, 2009, 01:59 PM I was told by my Amlak Finance agent a month ago that the project is again put on hold as they stopped all payments on my units to the developer.
Tried to contact the developer by emails and by phone for over 3 weeks and they just do not respond at all only the receptionist says that all is OK and just finds excuses not to transfer me to any resposnsible person to talk to.
If anyone has any idea what is going on with Cayan and Infinity please share this info. :ohno:
malec January 18th, 2009, 02:19 PM ^^ OK, let's see the difference.
December 8th:
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January 8th:
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Not on hold yet so whatever you were told seems to be wrong (so far anyway).
9714 January 18th, 2009, 10:12 PM got a letter from cayan saying that sept 2008 payment had not been made by amlak. contacted amlak today to ask why. the very helpful guy would only say that amlak have stopped payments on infinity and would not give a reason. something smells fishy - hope all is ok.
High Times January 18th, 2009, 10:32 PM Someone on another thread mentioned that Arabtec are having financial difficulties too.
THEPOINT January 18th, 2009, 10:39 PM Someone on another thread mentioned that Arabtec are having financial difficulties too.
So many rumours - mindyou BARCLAYS may be in trouble on the new Black Monday also ?
sakr January 19th, 2009, 10:19 AM got a letter from cayan saying that sept 2008 payment had not been made by amlak. contacted amlak today to ask why. the very helpful guy would only say that amlak have stopped payments on infinity and would not give a reason. something smells fishy - hope all is ok.
Well that is what happened with me. But Amlak explained that the project was on hold and the they have agreed with Cayan not to pay!!
Since then I have been chasing Cayan and absolutely getting no proper response. Their customer service is the worst I have ever seen.
thedubailife January 19th, 2009, 04:29 PM Some interesting information comming out, a more recent update might help i think True Blues still in dubai maybe he can find out.
I myself only mamange to get enough for half the sept 2008 payment as i was hoping on AMLAK but before i could apply they had withdrawn giving out loans to new customers.
Only reason i can think this would be on hold is spet 2008 was begining of credit crunch and if loads of people not managed to make payments and also AMLAK not paid Cayan then this could cause a delay as without money Cayan can't pay Arabtec who won't then do work.
I really hope this is not the case.
9714 January 19th, 2009, 04:56 PM has TB bought in Infinity??
True Blue January 19th, 2009, 10:43 PM has TB bought in Infinity??
^^No, I'm not as wealthy as all you guys:)
I would guess that the problem is coming from Amlak. Last 2 times in Dubai, all I heard were stories of masses of defaulters fleeing the country. Not good for mortgagers and probably the reason why they stopped issuing new mortgages as they will have a big mess to clear up.
Amlak may be getting cautious as off plans are heavily devalued with the credit crunch. They could be looking at the security they hold over the project and insisting that more progress is required before they pay out. Or they may be waiting on Escrows being opened:dunno: These are the only guesses I have for this situation.
As for Arabtec, I did not see any evidence of a company slowing things down quite the opposite infact.
charlie big potatoes January 19th, 2009, 10:54 PM Well that is what happened with me. But Amlak explained that the project was on hold and the they have agreed with Cayan not to pay!!
Since then I have been chasing Cayan and absolutely getting no proper response. Their customer service is the worst I have ever seen.
Try getting through to Demac........
charlie big potatoes January 19th, 2009, 11:00 PM The workforce here are in big numbers day and night. There were a min of 100 on site at midnight last night with poss lots more on lower levels under the ground levels. This site now has 2 concrete pumps working something I havnt noticed elsewhere on this size plot and seems really organised.
jeetha January 20th, 2009, 12:49 AM Work is steady so ………folks relax. Maybe we all need a holiday like Morris from BC.
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jeetha January 20th, 2009, 12:51 AM http://i41.tinypic.com/r09zdt.jpg
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malec January 20th, 2009, 12:53 AM They should really put some trees up in front of the marina terrace tower
jeetha January 20th, 2009, 12:53 AM http://i43.tinypic.com/rh3dw7.jpg
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thedubailife January 20th, 2009, 11:56 AM Thanks Guys for the update and the pictures, Can't be on hold yet if there are workers day and night i think TB is right Amlak trying to sort out the good from the bad and maybe setting new criteria for when a developer is paid probably in AMLAK's favour
sakr January 20th, 2009, 03:50 PM ^^No, I'm not as wealthy as all you guys:)
I would guess that the problem is coming from Amlak. Last 2 times in Dubai, all I heard were stories of masses of defaulters fleeing the country. Not good for mortgagers and probably the reason why they stopped issuing new mortgages as they will have a big mess to clear up.
Amlak may be getting cautious as off plans are heavily devalued with the credit crunch. They could be looking at the security they hold over the project and insisting that more progress is required before they pay out. Or they may be waiting on Escrows being opened:dunno: These are the only guesses I have for this situation.
As for Arabtec, I did not see any evidence of a company slowing things down quite the opposite infact.
Actually in one of my early calls to Amlak the agent wasn't sure why the payment was not made and mentioned that it might be that they (Amlak) might be waiting for an Escrow account. But then later they just wouldn't give any explanations except that the project is on hold. I really hope there is no problem with the project and that Cayan would fix their issues with Amlak. From the posted pictures the construction seems to be progressing.
rbj January 22nd, 2009, 04:58 PM http://www.business24-7.ae/articles/2009/1/pages/01202009_ae9481f262004f789ef20f851b4aef90.aspx
Interesting article from Cayan and co.
True Blue January 23rd, 2009, 12:14 AM Derbas said Cayan had worked on eight projects, of which five had been handed over to buyers and three, worth a total of Dh7 billion, were still under construction. "We have already achieved 70 per cent sales on the three projects that we have under construction," he added. "All the projects are on schedule and Arabtec is the leading contractor."
He dismissed any suggestion that the company would buy back units from customers who were finding it difficult to secure finance or pay instalments.
"We have secured mortgage financing with Amlak and Tamweel for the three projects under construction. Unfortunately, we know that financing from them is on hold and the big question for us is whether or not the people who have bought from us will be able to pay the instalments. What we are doing is extending the grace period from 30 days to two or even three months. We are seeing people struggle to pay."
People take out mortgage financing as they can't make the large payments themselves.
Trouble ahead!
High Times January 23rd, 2009, 12:25 AM This will become more popular as the year goes on. I expect RERA to enforce some kind of flexibility with payment schedules as on a large scale this would be disasterous for Dubai, Investors and Developers alike.
If defaults grow and developers end up effectively repossesing units they cant sell in the current market, it will cripple their cash flow and could take companies down.
I wrote a piece on this a few weeks ago in the Property & Investment thread, or the;
"Shall i move to Canada, get a visa in Dubai, whats the weather like where you are, do Emirati women shave their eyebrows, use this thread to discuss anything you like as long as you dont do it in other threads thread" as it is now called.
True Blue January 23rd, 2009, 12:39 AM Surely the trick is to make sure the mortgage companies have sufficient funding to meet their obligations.
I think it is poor that Cayan had a big problem here and investors stuck by them and held in, now the investors have a big problem and Cayan don't have the same consideration.
The tables have turned.
rbj January 23rd, 2009, 01:38 AM I dont agree with all the pesimism on this forum. It is well documented that Cayan teamed up with Amlak in 2006 offering 90% mortgages to resident sand 60 % to expats. Cayan CEO is quoted with his piccie all over the press stating that Cayan wanted people to have stronger purchasing power and that they wanted to help by not having to pay until the building was completed. Cayan have interests all over the ME.Amlak have merged with Tamweel which is basically now the UAE govenment bank. Amlak , the Dubai dream, Sheik Mo, Cayan would get absolutely slaughtered if one of Dubai's flagship buildings went cap in hand to investors to pay the installments to the construction company because the banks, couldn't, wouldn't do it.It is a sticky time for the world at the moment but I believe Dubai and the ME is in a strong position.The payment which was due to be paid to Cayan was at the same time Amlak and Tamweel merged, I presume there has to be a bit of grace to allow them both to get sorted out.If you want to know what panic and doom and gloom is then pop over to the UK where we are well and truly ******* and there is no end in sight. cheers
High Times January 23rd, 2009, 12:19 PM I believe Dubai and the ME is in a strong position.
The Middle East is potentially in the weakest position from a global point of view as it almost totally reliant upon oil/gas reserves for it's income.
A one trick pony.
The global demand for oil is now much lower as we all know, if it stays low for a prolonged period then this will be the first time the Middle East will have had to endure lower revenues for a prolonged period as this time its all of their customers that are suffering not just pockets of countries here and there suffering recession all at different times.
It would be real shame if this effected this project as it one of the best looking towers in the area as far as i am concerned.
Imre January 24th, 2009, 02:12 PM 24/January/2009
Infinity Tower
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rbj January 24th, 2009, 11:01 PM [QUOTE=High Times;31167330]The Middle East is potentially in the weakest position from a global point of view as it almost totally reliant upon oil/gas reserves for it's income.
A one trick pony.
I agree to a certain extent but if i was going to be a one trick pony I would be the pony with the oil and gas reserves not the ones with the bankrupt banks, empty high streets etc etc
HappyLarry January 24th, 2009, 11:29 PM [quote=High Times;31167330]The Middle East is potentially in the weakest position from a global point of view as it almost totally reliant upon oil/gas reserves for it's income.
A one trick pony.
I agree to a certain extent but if i was going to be a one trick pony I would be the pony with the oil and gas reserves not the ones with the bankrupt banks, empty high streets etc etc
Unless you are a Zen Buddhist, we are all dependent upon the black gold.
I don't believe UAE is a one trick pony. I believe Obama recently gave AD as an ironic example of leading its march toward green energy. Further, we know that Dubai's revenue from Oil & Gas is small compared to the sum of the other parts.
So, let's call spade a spade.
:cheers:
The-King January 25th, 2009, 01:02 AM podium now above ground, awesome!
Desert Diver January 26th, 2009, 08:00 AM From yesterday
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bizzybonita January 26th, 2009, 07:30 PM Infinity Tower on track
Infinity Tower, the winner of several world-class awards, is on the path to becoming a new landmark for Dubai; a project that will come to be viewed as the epitome of 21st century architecture, due to its unique spiral twisting shape.
Located in the Dubai Marina development, Infinity Tower is a 73 - storey residential tower with a dynamic twisting shape and waterfront views. It is the first structure of its kind and will be more than 300 metres high and the dominant feature on Dubai Marina's landscape. It will also be the world's tallest tower to feature a 90-degree twist.
This project was designed principally by M/s SOM (Skidmore, Owings and Merill) and the detailed design was developed by M/s Khatib & Alami who is also engaged for the project construction supervision works.
M/s Currie and Brown is the Client's Representative and Cost Manager. 'We are pleased to be involved with this unique and prestigious project and we are particularly impressed with the proactive way that Arabtec have addressed the unusually complex construction isssues,' Mr. Brian Quigley, Middle East Director of Currie & Brown, stated.
Arabtec Construction as a main contractor has engaged around 1,000 workforce round the clock with high safety standards and quality measures and high caliber resources to the full satisfaction of the concerned parties.
The structural system for the tower is high strength concrete core with a reinforced concrete column superstructure that rotates with the twisting shape. In addition, each floor will accommodate a 1.08-degree twist to achieve the full 90-degree spiral.
Mr. William Baker who is SOM's Partner and Lead Structural Engineer on the Burj Dubai is also in charge of the structural design of the Infinity Tower project has concluded a technical visit to the project last week.
'I noted that Arabtec Construction, L.L.C. had spent a great deal of effort studying the issues involved in building such a sophisticated structure. Arabtec is clearly dedicated to achieving high quality in the construction of this important structure,'
Mr. Baker of M/s SOM stated.
The tower will be clad in metal panels with staggered glass and screens to maximize the penetration of daylight to the apartments, creating something that will shimmer in the bright sunlight in a mixture of different reflective materials.
Six high speed lifts shall be installed with a speed of 8.0 metres per second to accommodate the use by the residents of this 307-metre high rise tower.
As of January 2009, the project construction which was started on 15th of June, 2008 is ahead of schedule and the central core wall reached Level 10 and the 6 Basement Floors, Ground Floor and Mezzanine Floor have been completed. The first podium slab is due to be concreted within a few days.
The special aluminum light weight formwork system specifically designed for this project will be used for the typical floors.
http://www.ameinfo.com/182500.html
True Blue January 26th, 2009, 11:21 PM High praise for Arabtec coming from all involved with this project. :applause:
1000 workforce working round the clock:eek:
I still think this is going to beat the Torch to the finish line even though it is just breaking the surface at the moment.
lowey January 27th, 2009, 02:55 AM High praise for Arabtec coming from all involved with this project. :applause:
1000 workforce working round the clock:eek:
I still think this is going to beat the Torch to the finish line even though it is just breaking the surface at the moment.
what is the torch
charlie big potatoes January 27th, 2009, 11:08 AM what is the torch
Ask all the owners in MST.
High Times January 27th, 2009, 12:34 PM I still think this is going to beat the Torch to the finish line even though it is just breaking the surface at the moment.
:lol: That's your best one yet :lol:
Yousuf27 January 27th, 2009, 12:39 PM :lol: That's your best one yet :lol:
.....also a clear indication that people should separate what he says about building or concrete from the rest of the garbage he comes out with!
Yousuf27 January 27th, 2009, 12:42 PM [QUOTE=True Blue;31336094]High praise for Arabtec coming from all involved with this project. :applause:
1000 workforce working round the clock:eek:
High praise for the Safety Policy here. Every one working below ground level is wearing a lifejacket!
True Blue January 27th, 2009, 08:26 PM :lol: That's your best one yet :lol:
It's a long shot but I have been saying this for a long time now and I intend to stick by it until I am ever proved wrong.
Ocean Heights has already overtaken the Torch, Infinity will take a while longer and won't be ahead until the end.
Dubai_Steve January 27th, 2009, 09:07 PM ^^ :nuts::nuts::nuts:
They would have to build at a rate of 1 floor every 2.5 days to top out faster than the Torch.
True Blue January 28th, 2009, 12:35 AM ^^ :nuts::nuts::nuts:
They would have to build at a rate of 1 floor every 2.5 days to top out faster than the Torch.
I agree that the frame of the Torch is going well but nothing else is. The bottom 20 floors are still not wind and water tight. Compare to Princess, everything 5 floors below the climbing scaffold is 95% done. When you look at how much the blockwork has fallen behind on the Torch it makes you wonder how all the follow trades can possibly catch up.
The race has only one finish line at handover. Do you think it can't be done?
Desert Diver January 28th, 2009, 09:01 AM [QUOTE=True Blue;31336094]High praise for the Safety Policy here. Every one working below ground level is wearing a lifejacket!
Really? Didnt see that. Well, I guess they've learned from experience :lol:
lowey January 28th, 2009, 10:24 AM Ask all the owners in MST.
whats MST
AltinD January 28th, 2009, 01:02 PM whats MST
A proposal for the site in front of TT and MH.
Imre January 29th, 2009, 12:40 PM 29/January/2009
Infinity Tower
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thedubailife January 29th, 2009, 06:29 PM Thanks IMRE for the updates. Should be flying up in a few months
The Engineer January 29th, 2009, 07:54 PM Finally starting to rise above streetlevel. Hope that on theis project there will be no money problems like on many other Dubai projects :(
True Blue January 29th, 2009, 08:23 PM It's in the hands of the investors here now. Lets hope there are not too many flippers onboard who can't afford their next payment.
Be warned, Cayan are operating a zero tolerance policy on late payments at the moment. I know as I am on the receiving end on both of my completed apartments.
rbj January 29th, 2009, 08:44 PM I would imagine most people got their mortgage through amlak as they were they only lender palma re and cayan were allowing you to use.I wouldnt have thought many investors were cash buyers. The terms of the amlak mortgage were that you only start to repay it when the tower is complete. That is why it was so attractive. We knew it would take 4 or 5 years to complete and we didnt have to start apying the repayments until then. Bought mine at the beginning for 900 000 put 40% down and took a mortgage for about 550 000, which I will pay back when it is built and I can rent it out. They chose amlak because they were in bed with them and no alternative was given ,so I imagine there were plenty of of employees of both companies with greasy palms and noses in the trough. I am sure they will sort out any differences and the next payments will be made.
THEPOINT January 29th, 2009, 10:24 PM Anyone know what resale prices are about for this tower now since bubble has burst ?
rbj January 29th, 2009, 10:35 PM Well palma re havent reduced their prices. There are a few on the resale market but they havent reduced either..... but then again they havent sold either. Works out at about 2250 psf. I dont know how many flippers there are on this tower, hopefully most are in it for the longhaul as in the end it will prove most fruitful.
rbj January 29th, 2009, 10:37 PM http://www.alineah.com/apartment/14630/detail.htm
some prices... or go into the palma.re website for more info direct from the developer
bizzybonita January 31st, 2009, 09:54 PM 1000 workers
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:D
Yousuf27 January 31st, 2009, 11:26 PM You can tell the guy in the white overalls (top picture) is important; note he's the one wearing the international orange lifejacket; - no-one else has one!
AltinD February 1st, 2009, 01:39 AM ^^ Important as in actually having a clue what's going on.
bizzybonita February 1st, 2009, 02:13 PM 29/Jan/09
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CIPUS February 1st, 2009, 02:40 PM They are still pumping water, why? Construction is above sea level....
Imre February 1st, 2009, 04:38 PM we need pics of the basement:)
9714 February 1st, 2009, 09:11 PM cipus. have seen it go beyond level 1 before. i think it is to relieve water pressure on the basements. once enough floors get built there will be enough weight to counter the upward pressure of the ground water. i believe the theory goes something like that.
AltinD February 1st, 2009, 11:01 PM ^^ Yes, that's corrrect.
Dubai_Steve February 4th, 2009, 07:20 PM http://i42.tinypic.com/2mmco05.jpg
Axel_F February 4th, 2009, 11:27 PM ^^Nice night shot. Here is a pic from desert diver from today:
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Desert Diver February 6th, 2009, 12:49 AM This morning
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True Blue February 6th, 2009, 01:44 AM Thanks DD, well above ground now, should be starting the twisty bit around April.
Axel_F February 6th, 2009, 10:26 AM thanks DD for the new update. Cool to see that they are working on second floor of the podium. Is raising so fast - dont stop it!:)
Blizzy February 6th, 2009, 03:30 PM What's going to happen to that external wall sticking out into the marina waters?
Yousuf27 February 6th, 2009, 04:01 PM I was wondering about that. I had thought it was temporary while they fixed the leak, - but perhaps it's there to stay?
AltinD February 6th, 2009, 09:22 PM Certainly not.
It will stay there for as long as it will be necessarily, basically till the structure is heavy enough to counter the down-pressure from the water table beneath and some kind of natural settling of the structure has occurred so not before they'll stop pumping out underground water from the soil beneath the foundations.
Imre February 8th, 2009, 02:28 PM 08/February/2009
Infinity Tower
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True Blue February 8th, 2009, 08:03 PM Anyone confirm if that's Sheikh Mohammed's yacht, Dubai, in the background?
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Great pics Imre:okay:
Axel_F February 8th, 2009, 08:37 PM Thanks Imre for the update!
Nice to see podium takes shape. Looks like second floor.
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This pic looks amazing. Looks like you can swim in the marina :cheers: From which building you have taken the pic?
Imre February 8th, 2009, 08:44 PM from the Marinascape Avant Infinity pool:)
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freakwave February 8th, 2009, 10:56 PM Anyone confirm if that's Sheikh Mohammed's yacht, Dubai, in the background?
Great pics Imre:okay:
Nope, looks quite similar, too short and has a deck less...
have a look at the original http://www.pbase.com/bmcmorrow/image/56429778
Yousuf27 February 9th, 2009, 10:45 AM Had a good look at it TB and I beleive that is not M.Y. Dubai in the background. It is something pretty big though - could be around 100m - although I can't identify it.
Imre February 15th, 2009, 02:11 PM 15/February/2009
Infinity Tower
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Imre February 15th, 2009, 04:47 PM http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/8050/imresolt55we0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Imre February 15th, 2009, 05:51 PM 15/Feb/2009
Infinity Tower
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9714 February 15th, 2009, 06:10 PM absolutely fantastic!!
lowey February 20th, 2009, 06:39 AM awesome
Imre February 20th, 2009, 01:15 PM 20/February/2009
Infinity Tower
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charlie big potatoes February 20th, 2009, 04:07 PM http://i44.tinypic.com/1z4vhaf.jpg
charlie big potatoes February 20th, 2009, 04:09 PM http://i44.tinypic.com/28us7si.jpg
charlie big potatoes February 20th, 2009, 04:11 PM http://i39.tinypic.com/24ca7eu.jpg
charlie big potatoes February 20th, 2009, 04:12 PM http://i44.tinypic.com/2s0mlis.jpg
charlie big potatoes February 20th, 2009, 04:16 PM http://i39.tinypic.com/dbmkvd.jpg
charlie big potatoes February 20th, 2009, 04:18 PM http://i41.tinypic.com/344xd0i.jpg
This site is alive day and night.
charlie big potatoes February 20th, 2009, 04:20 PM http://i40.tinypic.com/2lc8tad.jpg
charlie big potatoes February 20th, 2009, 04:22 PM http://i40.tinypic.com/2n0lg80.jpg
charlie big potatoes February 20th, 2009, 04:24 PM http://i43.tinypic.com/ofzwu8.jpg
Well above ground.
charlie big potatoes February 20th, 2009, 04:25 PM http://i42.tinypic.com/2hwpqhh.jpg
charlie big potatoes February 20th, 2009, 04:27 PM http://i40.tinypic.com/m7rz2r.jpg
charlie big potatoes February 20th, 2009, 04:29 PM http://i44.tinypic.com/1ow2yv.jpg
charlie big potatoes February 20th, 2009, 04:31 PM http://i42.tinypic.com/bhhli1.jpg
charlie big potatoes February 20th, 2009, 04:33 PM http://i39.tinypic.com/301d64z.jpg
charlie big potatoes February 20th, 2009, 04:35 PM http://i40.tinypic.com/24ql4lz.jpg
charlie big potatoes February 20th, 2009, 04:37 PM http://i44.tinypic.com/2v3gg3q.jpg
charlie big potatoes February 20th, 2009, 04:39 PM http://i39.tinypic.com/28cef6w.jpg
charlie big potatoes February 20th, 2009, 04:41 PM http://i40.tinypic.com/wjj8dh.jpg
charlie big potatoes February 20th, 2009, 04:43 PM http://i41.tinypic.com/2lnd85f.jpg
charlie big potatoes February 20th, 2009, 04:46 PM http://i42.tinypic.com/1zxmuci.jpg
Thats all guys i hope you enjoyed.
9714 February 20th, 2009, 05:32 PM nice one, CBP!
rbj February 20th, 2009, 07:28 PM excellent .....thanks both imre and cbt for taking time to get these photos and putting them on the page. Looks like its fullsteam ahead
True Blue February 20th, 2009, 08:55 PM And the nominations for best Infinity update are Imre and Charlie Big spuds.
The winner is Big Spuds:applause:
Better luck next time Imre:)
True Blue February 20th, 2009, 08:58 PM http://i41.tinypic.com/344xd0i.jpg
This site is alive day and night.
They need to work 30hrs a day, this slow progress is not good enough!!:bash:
We've got to beat the Torch to the finish line:okay:
mackie1964 February 20th, 2009, 09:02 PM And the nominations for best Infinity update are Imre and Charlie Big spuds.
The winner is Big Spuds:applause:
Better luck next time Imre:)
Imre still my favourite :baeh3::baeh3:
Sorry Spudsy but he is consistent :lol:
True Blue February 20th, 2009, 09:12 PM I had to give it to CBP for the range of shots, Imre will need to work harder in future.
Hope this Imre is not a big guy or I'm in for a :bash:
High Times February 20th, 2009, 10:32 PM We've got to beat the Torch to the finish line:okay:
Yeah first tower to 80 floors wins. :cheers:
Desert Diver February 24th, 2009, 01:40 PM Pics from yesterday:
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jeetha February 24th, 2009, 02:58 PM Wow! beautiful pictures.
Axel_F February 24th, 2009, 04:02 PM Nice photo update of infinity tower. thank you desert diver!
AltinD February 24th, 2009, 04:19 PM Hope this Imre is not a big guy or I'm in for a :bash:
He actually is, we don't call him papa-bear for nothing. :D :cheers:
Imre February 27th, 2009, 12:48 PM 27/February/2009
Infinity Tower
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Imre February 27th, 2009, 02:03 PM 27/February/2009
Infinity Tower
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rbj February 27th, 2009, 08:09 PM I had to give it to CBP for the range of shots, Imre will need to work harder in future.
Hope this Imre is not a big guy or I'm in for a :bash:
Imre has stepped up to the mark, game ,set and match , excellent photos, thanks :cheers:
Axel_F February 27th, 2009, 09:19 PM Yes, indeed! Very nice pics today Imre! Thank you very much! :banana:
Desert Diver February 28th, 2009, 09:35 PM Yesterday's night shots from Sloanes restaurant at the Grosvenor House. There was not much work going on, if any.
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mackie1964 February 28th, 2009, 10:02 PM :applause::applause::applause: Fantastic shots.
I know this will sound sad but this is as romantic as it gets for a skyscraper construction site :lol::banana:
rbj March 1st, 2009, 12:17 AM :applause::applause::applause: Fantastic shots.
I know this will sound sad but this is as romantic as it gets for a skyscraper construction site :lol::banana:
put the bottle away..... its a building site.??????
Tractor March 1st, 2009, 11:07 AM I am just impressed Imre found clean windows ... not common in Dubai!
Dubai is Cool March 1st, 2009, 11:01 PM [QUOTE=Desert Diver;32972822]Yesterday's night shots from Sloanes restaurant at the Grosvenor House. There was not much work going on, if any.
Why do you think there was not much work going ? is it normal or there is something else ? anyone can update us if the 100's workers are still working on site everyday.
Desert Diver March 1st, 2009, 11:11 PM ^^ I can't say for sure that there were no workers. Maybe they were all "inside" the building. However, we had buffet dinner for 3,5 hours on a balcony directly facing Infinity tower and I didn't see any workers during this period.
CrazyDave March 2nd, 2009, 01:46 AM Noticed they are still pumping water from the site. Hopefully they won't have to do that much longer. The progress looks great.
Axel_F March 3rd, 2009, 06:19 PM Thanks, Imre!
03/March/2009
Infinity Tower
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lovedubai March 4th, 2009, 04:48 PM Infinity update
Arabtec have over 700 employees on site.
Current status:
• Concrete core column has reached floor 12
• Concrete core wall is going up by one floor every 4 days.
• Basement slabs are complete up to the ground floor
• MEP contractor is Drake & Scull
• The elevator contractor has been assigned to Kone Middle East
• The façade contractor has been assigned to Beijing J&H Emirates
• Within two weeks, suppliers for the internal specifications will be finalized including: doors, kitchens, vanity counters, suspended ceilings
Amount of steel used to date: 5,800 tones
Amount of concrete used to date: 20,000 m3
40% of steel and concrete work needed for the project is complete.
Anjam March 4th, 2009, 05:36 PM Infinity update
40% of steel and concrete work needed for the project is complete.
^^ What does that mean ?
Imre March 7th, 2009, 04:33 PM my friend said , this is going to be ON HOLD , problems with the developer...
07/March/2009
Infinity Tower
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Stephan23 March 7th, 2009, 06:46 PM on hold...
Kruzefix !!! :bash: :wallbash: :crazy: :ohno: :doh:
High Times March 7th, 2009, 07:03 PM my friend said , this is going to be ON HOLD , problems with the developer...
ON HOLD. Problems, Cayan......
No surely not, this must be a malicious missrepresentation of the true facts. :ohno:
Perhaps The Scottish PR dept of Cayan has an update on this one for us. :)
Zio Fritz March 7th, 2009, 07:12 PM my friend said , this is going to be ON HOLD , problems with the developer...
07/March/2009
Infinity Tower
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....problems just two days after the release of their update report? But I can see nobody working .......strange feeling...:ohno:
Imre March 7th, 2009, 07:17 PM I will check tomorrow and on Monday as well.Hopefully we will see workers there.
bizzybonita March 7th, 2009, 07:19 PM This project already sold out ... so it should be on track not on hold ! :cheers:
Zio Fritz March 7th, 2009, 07:28 PM This project already sold out ... so it should be on track not on hold ! :cheers:
I don't think that it's sold out. And also the problem could be that maybe people just can't afford to pay and/or maybe banks have suspended lending funds to Cayan etc. Everything is possible in these days. Let's just hope that Imre's friend is wrong even if normally Imre's sources are the best.....would be a disaster for the Marina...:ohno:
dubaifirst March 7th, 2009, 07:34 PM It could be a problem with the contractor not Cayan itself, as i understand last year most developers took out a fixed price contract to protect them from the rising cost of materials, but now because the cost of materials has gone down by 30 to 50%, developers want to review their terms but contactors are refusing and threatening to pull out.
malec March 7th, 2009, 08:36 PM It could be a problem with the contractor not Cayan itself, as i understand last year most developers took out a fixed price contract to protect them from the rising cost of materials, but now because the cost of materials has gone down by 30 to 50%, developers want to review their terms but contactors are refusing and threatening to pull out.
Let's hope this is the reason and that it's not because people aren't making their payments because if it is the latter then construction could grind to a complete halt all over the marina.
True Blue March 7th, 2009, 09:02 PM A statement from Cayan is required quickly, unfortunately Cayan are closed until Monday!
Read my comments on Silverene regarding funding profile, it could be a banking problem not providing gap funding until completion payments are received. It could also be down to a large number of payment defaulters but now all we can do is guess untill we hear from Cayan direct.
Dubai_Steve March 7th, 2009, 10:36 PM At the peak of the property boom last year, did'nt we hear that Cayan was trying to buy back units in Infinity to sell at AED 3000 psf due to lack of funds to complete construction.
Axel_F March 7th, 2009, 11:44 PM Oh no...dont stop construction. I hope imre see some workers working in the next days...I dont want that the infinity tower become a infinity tower because of construction time...:ohno:
lovedubai March 8th, 2009, 03:20 AM Would they have put an update 2 days ago if it's going on hold? The next payment isn't until November. How many defaulting investors are they likely to have?
malec March 8th, 2009, 03:23 AM Yes it's hard to believe that this could go from that above to nothing overnight. Let's see what happens over the next week or so.
Imre March 8th, 2009, 05:23 AM 08/March/2009
good news, crane moving and workers there, pics from my balcony
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malec March 8th, 2009, 11:57 AM Good stuff! Let's see if they continue as before now. :)
THEPOINT March 8th, 2009, 01:22 PM This project already sold out ... so it should be on track not on hold ! :cheers:
Not sold out Cayan have lots left yet but at a price
THEPOINT March 8th, 2009, 01:27 PM It could be a problem with the contractor not Cayan itself, as i understand last year most developers took out a fixed price contract to protect them from the rising cost of materials, but now because the cost of materials has gone down by 30 to 50%, developers want to review their terms but contactors are refusing and threatening to pull out.
Contractors are going to HAVE to review charges everwhere otherwise Dubai is really going to suffer - HOLD OUT CAYAN if that is the reason for stopping
( I hope it is the reason why on hold )
However IF costs are cut these should be passed on to investors per se
True Blue March 8th, 2009, 01:49 PM ^^
If this is the reason it would be better to negotiate a better spec than a cash back. Everyone who bought in the off plan marina was seduced by the promise of luxury which has yet to materialise.
Why am I still speculating:bash:
jeetha March 8th, 2009, 01:53 PM ( I hope it is the reason why on hold )
Not on hold. Going full steam ahead.:banana:
Imre March 8th, 2009, 02:07 PM 08/March/2009
Infinity Tower
workers there but seems less than before
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Zio Fritz March 8th, 2009, 07:34 PM ....has to be kept under control here....tks Imre....:wave:
CIPUS March 8th, 2009, 10:49 PM http://i43.tinypic.com/swtrhe.jpg
What is the big reinforced hole in front of the tower, towards the marina? It seems the water is coming from that hole.....
AltinD March 8th, 2009, 11:33 PM ^^ That's the part that collapsed and from where the water flooded the site. I believe they will wait till the structure stabilizes and is heavy enough to counter the water pressure both from below and from the sides, before they remove the supporting struts from there and fill it in as well as rebuilt the Marina wall.
The water is coming from the dewatering pumps that lower the level of underground water on the site, to facilitate the construction, or better saying: settling in of the structure. That is a normal procedure in all construction sites over here, due to very high underground water tables.
bizzybonita March 9th, 2009, 04:58 AM some news
The current fall in construction prices has benefited the new projects, he said. "We always leave the door open and look at what is in it for us. We have negotiated for Silverene and Infinity. The prices of steel, equipment and supplies have gone down and we are negotiating on whatever we can to get some benefits from our deal. We purchased steel at Dh5,000 a tonne. A project like Infinity was about Dh570 to Dh580 a square foot on construction costs alone. Unfortunately, that has not changed because the materials were ordered at very high prices and suppliers awarded for the packages way before the prices dropped."
On the Infinity project, he said around 70,000 sqm of the façade is glass according to a conservative estimate. RWDI does the wind tunnel testing on most projects, but the Canadian University in Montreal worked on Infinity, he added.
The building was designed by SOM's Chicago office and Khatib & Alami is the architects of record. "We faced a lot of challenges during the construction including water leaking into the site but we deployed the top people to overcome all issues. When we finally started the main works, we were four months ahead of time," said Kasem.
"Then we hired Arabtec and they accelerated the process and we finished in six months what would take 10 months. We have now finished with six basements, ground floor, mezzanine and four podiums levels. Salahah Structural Engineering validated the design before it went to Dubai Municipality."
http://business24-7.ae/Articles/2009/3/Pages/03092009_14c45fd6910e480c88823ff4b0d93f88.aspx
True Blue March 9th, 2009, 08:40 PM ^^ Forgot to add that all the workers play hide and seek with Dubais top update photographer..:laugh:
High Times March 9th, 2009, 08:46 PM I am so glad that there are no problems here.
This is the best looker in the Marina for me.
AAA portfolio March 13th, 2009, 10:16 AM This is going to be one of the best buildings on Marina... Hope there will be no further delays..
Imre March 15th, 2009, 03:03 PM 15/March/2009
Infinity Tower
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charlie big potatoes March 15th, 2009, 06:13 PM Just a week since you had this on hold, how silly you must be feeling now:nuts: This is construction at its best. Well done to all in here.
True Blue March 16th, 2009, 11:03 PM Imre has to take picture from afar now. When the worker see his car approaching they all run and hide:laugh:
A bit like the UK, point a camera at a building site and everyone ducks and dives:)
bizzybonita March 17th, 2009, 02:32 PM Just a week since you had this on hold, how silly you must be feeling now:nuts: This is construction at its best. Well done to all in here.
it's like a Holiday day for them crisis to us :nuts: Thanks god everything are stable .
Cool banana March 18th, 2009, 10:24 PM This is going to be one of the best buildings on Marina...
I agree with you on this. It is indeed an interesting building (judged on the animations) Some might even say this building has a special "twist"...:lol:
Hope there will be no further delays..
No comments. (I hope I will not be commenting this comment in 4 years)
:banana:
Desert Diver March 24th, 2009, 06:55 AM Yesterday evening we went to Sloane's restaurant at the Grosvenor House again. Trying to count the number of workers on the site of Infinity I gave up and assume its roughly 200, probably more :cheers2:
Stephan23 March 24th, 2009, 10:40 AM ^^ :dance::dance:
jeetha March 26th, 2009, 09:45 AM http://i42.tinypic.com/2medekm.jpg
Axel_F March 26th, 2009, 10:13 AM Thanks jeetha for sharing it. Nice to see still very much workers at the site!
thedubailife March 26th, 2009, 12:20 PM Interesting how they seem to be developing the podium only around the back and not the front of the core.
Although at some level the podium is only at back and front has apartments, not sure ithats the reason
9714 March 26th, 2009, 05:49 PM ^^ i reckon its for storage reasons. emaar are hogging all surrounding space for their own projects.
9714 March 26th, 2009, 05:59 PM ^^i had a senior moment. was thinking of silverene and writing on the infinity thread... maybe its true here, i dont know.
jeetha March 26th, 2009, 06:12 PM ^^ Could you rephrase that for me please. :dunno:
9714 March 27th, 2009, 08:29 AM ^^never mind. not important.
thedubailife March 27th, 2009, 12:01 PM ^^ you could have just edited your original post. I think you've had more then one senior moment :)
9714 March 27th, 2009, 04:39 PM ok...
Imre April 3rd, 2009, 02:13 PM 03/April/2009
Infinity Tower
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Desert Diver April 8th, 2009, 12:45 PM Pics from yesterday
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