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Animo

September 15th, 2008, 07:11 PM

Antonio J. Montalvan II (http://www.inquirer.net/specialfeatures/mindanaopeaceprocess/view.php?db=1&article=20080915-160673)
Philippine Daily Inquirer

MANILA, Philippines - It has become a choice buzzword and conversation topic in many a gathering, despite the pronouncement of government that the MOA BJE—those favorite letters—has been sent to the trash bin. And people often ask what we think about it.

Expectedly, there was and is a mad rush of opinions about it, mostly coming from Manila. Therein, I believe, lies part of the problem. The Mindanao debacle is not a political problem as most of Manila, the government included, would want us to see. It is a cultural dilemma that can only be best experienced and thereby understood by those who live side by side with people of varying cultural persuasions. It is, to my mind, a cultural problem more than political. As such, most opinions that emanate from outside the geography of the problem are at best remote and merely armchair-viewed. In fact, many opinion writers do not differ much from the methodologies of government in viewing Mindanao.

It is often cited that the Moro problem is a result of a past where the Spanish colonizers, and later the Americans, were never able to vanquish the Moro because of what is often said was their resolute courage against being colonized. The static view of history implies that until today the Moro has remained unyielding. The solution to that perspective then is one that is assimilationist—that the Moro must acquiesce to the general culture which, in the Philippines, is largely Manila-determined and Christian-dominated.

Consider the following. Christian holidays such as Maundy Thursday, Good Friday, Christmas Day and New Year’s Day are mandated holidays that cover even Muslims. I saw the conditions once in a government office where during the Christmas season, the tinsel decorations were being put up, and the Muslim employees were forced by circumstances to join in the decoration. That was most insensitive. When it was time for the festive celebrations of Hariraya at the end of Ramadan, the Christians were not as considerate to help the Muslim brethren put up their own décor. Worse, nobody even bothered to suggest an office activity in the same manner as during the Christmas holiday season.

When the Muslim children go to school in a largely Christian populated area, they have to contend with the class praying the Christian prayers. But what is wrong with asking a Muslim classmate to lead the prayers in Arabic?

In our public and private schools, the Christian culture certainly dominates. But in the Islamic system of education, the madrasah—school for Arabic and Quranic education—are incorporated in their educational system. No such madaris (plural for madrasah) exist in our school system but only in Muslim enclave areas. As such, the school system is one that effectively makes pariahs out of Muslim minorities in the school demography.

Our Manila-engineered assimilationist culture is one that is still deeply rooted in colonialism. The minorities have to kowtow to the dominant culture and any cultural behavior contrary to it is accorded a base social value. I recall an incident I read of a teenage Muslim girl hailing a passing taxi in Metro Manila. No taxi driver ever stopped for her. The reason? She was wearing a kombong, the Muslim veil. No taxi ride for the culturally unusual.

When some of them do assimilate as many of them so willingly do, most often they are regarded with derision. The little Muslim girl who rode a float in Baguio’s Panagbenga Festival and who was jeered at by the spectators as “Abu Sayyaf” often reminds me of how our dominant culture remains as closed-minded and ethnocentric as it was during colonial times. We have remained static with our cultural perspectives.

And what values can our assimilationist culture offer? We offer the inanities of television, the smut of over-the-counter publications, the liberal moralities of our young that we often copy from the West and many others. That is one of the reasons why extremists like Osama bin Laden think they must castigate the West for toying with moral liberties that provide no place for nurturing those with Islamic sensibilities, albeit I do not agree with his methods.

The radical elements that we see in Muslim Filipinos is simply a reactionary advocacy to bear the brunt of centuries of colonialism that we continue to perpetrate today and which does not recognize cultural differences.

I thus do not see the MOA BJE as the solution. To dismember Mindanao is an option that is still within the colonial perspective of viewing society where dichotomies are created on the basis of the domination-subservience scale. The post-colonialist posture then is to use the lens of multiculturalism, not assimilation to and absorption by the dominant of the minority.

The Malaysian example, until it does not go into the error of Islamic fundamentalism, remains a viable Southeast Asian model, as, to a certain extent, Singapore and its cultural diversity.

It is to me, simply, being able to live together in peaceful coexistence, and to be mindful and respectful of our cultural differences, and to allow ourselves to be enriched by diversity. Isn’t that what globalism is also about? Sadly, that is not how we continue to be taught. And certainly that is not how we are governed.

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Animo

September 15th, 2008, 07:12 PM

By Manuel L. Quezon III (http://opinion.inquirer.net/inquireropinion/columns/view/20080915-160675/The-rise-of-a-new-leadership)
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 01:51:00 09/15/2008

MANILA, Philippines- Kris v. Cross, an article from Time Magazine’s June 29, 1936 issue, points to an opportunity that presented itself to the Philippine government.

“Nine days prior [to the first State of the Nation Address in 1936],” the magazine wrote, “from Jolo in the Sulu Archipelago, His Highness Padukka Mahasari Manaluna Hadji Mohammad Jamalul Kiram II, Sultan of Sulu and North Borneo, Judge of Agama, lineal descendant of the Prophet, had ascended to enjoy the limitless quantities of gold, jewels, silks, dates, rice, spitted lamb and beautiful women which await the Faithful in the Mohammedan Paradise... No sooner had he died than one of them, Princess Dayang Dayang, began to quarrel with Hadji Butu, the late Sultan’s grand vizier, over who was to succeed Kiram II. Dayang Dayang won the first round. Since the Sultan’s corpse was rapidly putrefying and could not be buried until a new ruler had been chosen, she secured the appointment of her husband Datu Umbra as Sultan pro tem. Meantime, the datus (princes) of the Sulu islands had been advised by Grand Vizier Hadji Butu, ablest and best educated of the Moro patriarchs, to enthrone Datu Rajamuda, only surviving brother of the late Sultan.”

Time continued: “On the same day that the National Assembly met in Manila the datus assembled at Jolo, determined to make Rajamuda Sultan. Again the willful Princess got the best of Hadji Butu. She informed the visiting princes that according to tradition a Sultan of Sulu could not be chosen except by unanimous vote. Therefore they must wait until every datu from the farthest Moro island had arrived. The followers of Rajamuda called her by the names of she-animals. They declared she planned to make herself Sultana or—almost as unforgivable an insult to a warrior race—get the job for her husband, Datu Umbra, or her father-in-law, Datu Amil-bangsa. The princes grumbled, but the proclamation of Rajamuda’s accession was withheld and the throne continued last week to tremble in the balance.”

That was in 1936. To this day, the heirs of the last Sultan have been unable to unite; one factor may be that the Philippine government in 1936, the year of the last acknowledged Sultan’s death, abolished the state subsidy to the sultanate and refused to recognize a successor.

In the same year that the Sultanate of Sulu passed into history, the National Assembly enacted Commonwealth Act 141, amending and compiling the laws on lands in the public domain.

Both actions—the refusal to intervene in the succession crisis among the last Sultan of Sulu’s heirs, and passing a law that firmly placed the authority of the Philippine government in the line of legal succession to American and Spanish authority, recognized as paramount by Muslim rulers in the past—were a strategy that would have been familiar to state-builders like Mustapha Kemal Ataturk or the ruling Congress Party of India. It was a policy encapsulated by Manuel Roxas in 1922: “We have encroached upon the rights of the Governor General because in that guise liberties are won.”

The implications of this and subsequent laws were clearly explained in “More road blocks: conflict of rights” by Patricio P. Diaz in MindaNews: “While the Bangsamoro people have historical rights to their Ancestral Domain and land, the Christians in the provinces, municipalities and barangays that are proposed to be included in BJE have earned rights—property right to their lands and the right to belong to the political jurisdiction of their choice. This conflict of historical and earned rights is at the root of the storm of protest in North Cotabato and the cities of Zamboanga and Iligan.”

Diaz observed, “Political right is as sensitive as property right… The present protests are expression of resentment and anger for what they believe as undue interference in their political right…”

But let me return to the unraveling of the partnership between the leadership of Christian and Moro Filipinos, and what may be the event that blew the lid off the festering contradictions of that partnership.

The elections of 1949—immortalized by the line “first they voted in Lanao, pati na aswang pa daw!” in the Mambo Magsaysay—revealed the patchwork nature of this alliance between traditional leaders. As the rest of the Philippines became more modern, the shared values of the Muslim and Christian political old guard—to maintain the appearance of democracy while winking at each other as to how their authority was derived through undemocratic means—became increasingly untenable.

On a national scale this led to the prewar politicians suffering an electoral debacle in 1953, with a brief restoration in 1957 but with the momentum for the younger generation restored with Macapagal’s victory in 1961. It took a little longer for Muslims and the delay meant that younger Muslim leaders not from the traditional aristocracy but also influenced by Western thinking and the demise of colonialism, could look to secular Arab nationalism, with Gamel Abdal Nasser as their inspiration.

The decline in the influence, prestige, and legitimacy of the old Muslim royalty (McKenna suggests their claim to old pedigrees was itself something of a fraud) led to the rise of secularist intellectuals like Nur Misuari, and new warlords like the Dimaporos and Sinsuats of the modern era. The story of the decline of the old, and the secular, nationalist, aspirations of the new Muslim leaders—who created in the 1970s for Muslims what Rizal had created for Christians in the 1870s, the concept of nationhood (“Filipino” and “Bangsamoro” respectively)—would then collide with what has come to subvert the nationalist-secular order in places like Egypt: Islamic fundamentalism, one of the ideological divides between the MNLF and the MILF.

But the reality is whether one proposes and another person contests an interpretation of history, everyone has to acknowledge that what matters is what the majority subscribes to. There is a dominant narrative that has reigned supreme among younger Moros since the 1960s, and that dominant narrative does not view the commitments of the traditional Muslim leadership as legitimate, and therefore, whatever partnership existed between them has been retroactively declared null and void by today’s Muslim leaders. Much as the Marxist professors of the 1960s—who influenced the Misuaris of nearly two generations ago—they, too, have succeeded, not in destroying the Republic, but its historic foundations.

hirolionheart

September 17th, 2008, 10:49 AM

Isa kasi sa mga kinatatakutan ng mga tao kumbakit di sila bumoboto ng "Oo" para sa cityhood ay dahil na rin sa pangamba ng pagtaas ng real estate tax o property tax.

Ah oo nga no, nakalimutan ko ang factor na ito kaya ayaw ng mga residente na maging lungsod ang kanilang bayan, magmamahal ang mga real estate at property tax, bale hintayin muna nila na mapuno ang isang bayan ng mga establishments bago sila papayag na maging lungsod kaya naman dapat makabili na kagad ng mga properties dun bago pa gawing lungsod, hehehe^_^

LordCarnal

September 17th, 2008, 02:53 PM

It has only been 60 plus years since we've become an independent and united (Luzon-Visayas-Mindanao) country...

But we've been under Spanish rule for more than 300 years..

Ergo a lot of things can still happen in the future...

If there was a Dagohoy Revolt, a Gabriela Silang Revolt, KKK, Jose Rizal, etc. then we also have now the MILF, MNLF, Mindanao Republic, Visayas Republic movements, etc.

:okay:

LordCarnal

September 17th, 2008, 03:01 PM

The problem is the MILF are just plain lazy people. They want to have their own land without having to work for it. Why don't they just go and find work then BUY their own land after they make their own money?

Eh mga tamad, gusto magka-lupa ayaw naman magtrabaho.

Just like Filipinos. In fact there's a study (done by psychiatrists) which revealed that at least 50 percent of male Filipinos have dependent personality.

I think this is the reason why the Spaniards called us "indolent." Even the Americans said that we are not worthy of ruling ourselves.

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bukid

September 17th, 2008, 06:26 PM

Animo

September 17th, 2008, 09:55 PM

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MANILA (AFP) — It is mid-morning and the muezzin's call at Manila's Blue Mosque in suburban Maharlika echoes across the run-down tenement blocks as men slowly walk towards its sky blue onion-shaped dome.

Across the road, goats graze and women gather under trees, their heads covered by white or black scarves.

A placard taped to the mosque wall reads: "Peace for MindaNOW".

The latest attempt to bring peace to the southern island of Mindanao and give the minority Muslims a homeland has been officially scrapped after 11 years of negotiations between the government and the Moro Islamic Liberation Front (MILF).

Both sides have struggled for a settlement through peace negotiations punctuated by bouts of bloodshed which had displaced more than a million people and left more than 120,000 dead over the past 40 years.

Once the majority ethnic group in Mindanao, Muslims have been marginalised and are now a minority in their own land following massive Christian migration from the northern and central Philippines from the early 1900s.

Many of the displaced have drifted to Manila over the years, settling in small Muslim communities scattered around the city such as that at Maharlika.

Known locally as "Little Mindanao," it is home to an estimated 50,000 Muslims. Some were born here, others were children when their parents fled the fighting in Mindanao and some are recent arrivals.

"Without our own homeland we are nothing as a people," said Kamim Macmod, 38, who was two years old when his family fled Sultan Kudarat in Mindanao.

Casting his eyes around the faithful entering the mosque, he says: "Despite our clan differences we (Muslims) all share the same dream -- to live in peace and on our own land."

Although the latest attempt for a settlement was endorsed by negotiators from both sides it drew widespread condemnation from Mindanao's Christians and politicians who saw it as unconstitutional and a sell-out of Philippine sovereignty.

The agreement has been dumped by the government and factions of the MILF have begun fighting, sending more than 500,000 civilians into refugee camps.

Nur-ashree Dawani, 37, married with three children is out of work but he gets by selling cigarettes and sweets on the streets for a relative.

"Muslims in this country are a bit like the Palestinians in Israel, lost in their own homeland," he said.

"The fight for a homeland has been going on for decades now and I would expect it will go on for decades more."

Historically Muslims dominated the islands of the Sulu archipelago, western and central Mindanao and the island of Palawan well before the Spanish colonisers arrived in the mid-1500s.

Despite 350 years of Spanish occupation the Muslims were left alone where the local sultanates dominated Southeast Asia.

After occupying the Philippine islands following its war with Spain in 1898, the US fought a series of brutal wars with the Muslims to bring them into what was then the Philippine Commonwealth.

For most of the 20th century large scale emigration was encouraged, first by the US and the Filipinos themselves, urging Christians to populate Mindanao.

In less than 60 years the Muslims were pushed into being a minority people in what was once their own homeland, and now no one knows how many Muslims have drifted to Manila in the past four decades.

On one recent morning heavily armed police and SWAT teams keep a discreet distance from the mosque.

Maharlika was set up during the presidency of the late dictator Ferdinand Marcos in the early 1970s to provide a refuge for the wave of refugees who fled Muslim Mindanao when students began agitating for a homeland.

After 40 years of false promises exhaustion and frustration are eroding the patience of many Muslims in the Philippines.

"Our quest for a homeland is like a voice from the wilderness. It has haunted the American colonisers and successive Philippine governments since our independence in 1946," said Norhaya Macusang, a 26-year-old engineer and mother of one.

"Many Muslims here have not only escaped the fighting in Mindanao, they have also escaped the poverty it has created," she said.

"But that is not to say everything is fine here in Manila. We suffer from widespread discrimination because we are Muslims. We have lost our dignity and self respect as a people.

"Yes, I could pack up and leave. But where does that leave my people?" she asked.

"The only way this situation will be sorted out is when we get our land back and Muslims are in control of their own destiny.

"It's not a question of not being able to live side by side with Christians, we do," she said. "It's a question of political will on both sides."

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allan_dude

September 22nd, 2008, 03:23 AM

Baguio City not ready for migrating Muslims

Cye Reyes

BAGUIO CITY — As the armed conflict between the Moro Islamic Liberation Front (MILF) and the Armed Forces of the Philippines (AFP) continues in Mindanao, the city government is anticipating a possible influx of Muslim migrants to the city.

According to Vice Mayor Daniel Fariñas, although the city is not prepared for a possible increase of Muslim migrants from Mindanao because of the said armed conflict, it is still opening its doors to them.

Fariñas said there is no law that prevents in-migration though this should be regulated.

“We cannot help it if they would decide to live here anyway our city is very conducive for living but it should be regulated through legislation,” he said.

According to Abdullah S. Macarimpas, the director of the Office on Muslim Affairs-Cordillera Administrative Region (OMA-CAR), the expected increase in Muslim migration because of the conflict in Mindanao is just speculative.

“This is just speculative and imaginary because President Joseph Estrada’s all-out-war policy during his time did not result to a very significant increase in out-migration from Mindanao, and the situation then was worse than now,” said Macarimpas.

At present, there are 5,000-6,000 Muslims residing in the city, 98% of which are Maranaws, one of the three major Muslim tribes.

The other two tribes are the Tausugs and the Maguindanaos.

The Maranaws mostly come from Lanao del Sur, which is not affected by the present conflict in Mindanao.

Meanwhile, military and police authorities said during the Regional Peace Council meeting in Banawe, Ifugao said government peace-keeping forces would be on the look out for possible terroristic activities in the region.

Macarimpas said it is saddening that Muslims are still being stereotyped as terrorists and linked with terrorism.

“This is again speculative. There were Muslims here already even prior to the martial law and there was no reported incidence of terroristic violence by Muslims except for petty crimes,” reacted Macarimpas.

“This is their (Muslims) second home and they will protect it and preserve it. The Maranaws are peace-loving people,” added Macarimpas.

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le Reine

September 22nd, 2008, 10:53 AM

SPECIAL REPORT
500,000 evacuees need food aid (http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/inquirerheadlines/nation/view/20080922-162087/500000-evacuees-need-food-aid)

By Fernando del Mundo
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 02:45:00 09/22/2008

DATU PIANG, MAGUINDANAO—Aid agencies are mobilizing emergency assistance to meet a potential “double whammy” in Central Mindanao—widening monsoon flooding and a possible full-scale war at the end of the Muslim fasting month of Ramadan.

Fighting between government forces and so-called “lawless” elements of the separatist Moro Islamic Liberation Front (MILF) has triggered what is now described as the worst humanitarian crisis in the area in five years.

Local aid workers say the government has so far been unable to provide the required assistance to war-affected populations, but appears to shy away from supporting appeals for foreign aid that will politicize and “internationalize” the problem, making it lose face.

Donors are reportedly waiting for the signal from the Arroyo administration to move in.

Ironically, the Bangsamoro Development Agency (BDA), formed under a previous accord to oversee rehabilitation once peace comes to Mindanao, is now shifting to “disaster management.”

“I think the needs are going up,” said Stephen L. Anderson, country representative of the World Food Program (WFP), who visited last week people huddled in makeshift camps in ramshackle towns at the edge of the rain-swollen Rio Grande de Mindanao, an hour’s drive from Cotabato City.

The UN food agency based in Rome has been assisting more than 400,000 internally displaced people (IDPs) since a deal on an expanded Bangsamoro homeland—secretly hammered out in Kuala Lumpur under Malaysian auspices to resolve a decades-old civil strife—unraveled and enraged MILF commanders rampaged a month ago.

“Now it’s going to be above 500,000,” Anderson said, referring to the number of IDPs urgently needing assistance.

“There had been an optimism that Ramadan would be a kind of cooling off period and allow the peace process to get back on track, but at this point in time, I don’t see that happening and the people I’ve spoken to here are not very optimistic,” he said.

Anderson said he saw distressed people still arriving during his visit on Wednesday in Datu Piang.

Appalling camp conditions

In one site alone, over 1,000 families—roughly 5,000 people composed mainly of women and children—had turned plastic sheets provided by the Geneva-headquartered International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) into tents in the town square and surrounding streets in appalling conditions.

Makeshift shelters stood even in the slime and mud that got flooded every time it rained. There were no sanitation facilities or potable water in the area, called an “evacuation center” by relief workers.

Malnutrition was evident among many children. Pregnant mothers gave birth in the open field.

As a former reporter and humanitarian worker, I have been to camps for those uprooted by wars and disasters from East Asia to West Africa. The evacuation centers here in Datu Piang are comparable to some of the worst I have seen. Even the camps for the Rwandan Hutu refugees in the virtual moonscape of Goma in then Zaire, now the Democratic Republic of Congo, had latrines and trash receptacles.

It is monsoon season. Wide areas of IDP-hosting municipalities in the periphery of the lush Liguasan Marsh, reputed to be an MILF stronghold where the military is hunting down recalcitrant rebel commanders, were inundated in the current monsoon drenching and by runoff from deforested mountains and destroyed watersheds.

“If you have this combination of floods and then the security situation remains and even potentially worsening, it could be an extremely serious humanitarian situation on our hands,” Anderson said.

He said he had talked to donors for funding of the WFP’s emergency operation in Central Mindanao that had taken a large chunk of the WFP’s annual $25-million assistance programs in the Philippines, including “food for education” and “food for work.”

“We’ve had some positive indications, but nothing concrete,” he said, adding that Luxembourg had contributed $200,000 and Saudi Arabia had dispatched boxes of dates.

“All of that is appreciated, but when you’re talking larger scale, sustaining this kind of intervention becomes more costly,” he said.

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le Reine

September 22nd, 2008, 11:06 AM

DSWD: Gov’t has P40M more for the displaced (http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/inquirerheadlines/nation/view/20080922-162121/DSWD-Govt-has-P40M-more-for-the-displaced)
By Jocelyn Uy
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 06:46:00 09/22/2008

MANILA, Philippines—With about P1 billion in calamity funds, the government does not need to sound the alarm bells for international aid for the hundreds of thousands of people displaced by war and flooding in Central Mindanao, according to Social Welfare Secretary Esperanza Cabral.

She said the P40 million remaining of the P100-million quick response fund of the Department of Social Welfare and Development was still enough to help the thousands of families cramped in temporary shelters and evacuation centers in Mindanao.

“Calling for international help is not a decision I can make unilaterally but by the National Disaster Coordinating Council. But [based on my assessment], we don’t need international help because we can handle the situation ourselves,” Cabral told the Philippine Daily Inquirer over the phone on Friday.

“While aid is always welcome, the decision to call for help abroad is to be made by the government based on its assessment,” she added.

Since the fighting broke out early last month in the region, the department has provided assistance worth P16.75 million to more than 110,000 families, or some 528,028 persons, affected by the armed conflict.

123 evacuation centers

The department’s records show that 14,000 families or more than 69,000 people have sought shelter in 123 evacuation centers since skirmishes between the military and the Moro rebels began.

They came from 354 barangays (villages), 39 towns, two cities and nine provinces in Northern Mindanao (Region 10), Soccsksargen (Region 12) and the Autonomous Region in Muslim Mindanao.

For Northern Mindanao alone, the department has released P3.2 million for the construction of bunk houses and the purchase of relief goods.

It has also deployed its quick response and social welfare and development teams to manage evacuation centers and operate community kitchens. The teams have conducted supplemental feeding for roughly 1,000 children, aged zero to six years old, in evacuation centers in North Cotabato and Lanao del Norte, according to the department.

P10-M stockpile

The department also has a stockpile of P10 million worth of goods for victims of the war and flooding in Central Mindanao, Cabral said.

“At present, we can use what remains of our quick response fund but the President has a calamity fund that can be tapped when our resources run low,” she said.

Off-hand, Cabral said, the calamity fund which her department could tap from the President’s coffers was about P1 billion.

“Even if that were to be consumed, there will be other funds the President can tap,” she said.

Cabral added: “We are capable of dealing with any kind of situation as far as disaster and relief response is concerned. But we can also call on all agencies of the government to help.”

skyscraper100

September 22nd, 2008, 01:58 PM

mygz14

September 22nd, 2008, 03:45 PM

I'm not aware if this thread is redundant, but I would like to share what I read over someone's blog.

Name Change for the Philippines
Posted by Rodel Rodis
September 3, 2008

When I visited Manila in January of 2006, a city councilor I knew excitedly informed me that his council had just voted to change the name of the Philippines. What? The country would no longer be named after a ruthless Spanish despot? We would finally be rid of this last vestige of colonialism? Hallelujah!

Breathlessly, I asked my friend, Councilor Cassie Sison, to pray tell me what name the good City Council of Manila had proposed.

â€œThe Philippine Islands,â€ he replied.

After I recovered from my disappointment and picked up my jaw from the floor, I heard Cassie explain that Manila Mayor Lito Atienza believed that the country would draw more tourists if a more exotic name could replace the staid â€œRepublic of the Philippines.â€ The proposed name, Cassie said, would conjure dreamy images of palm trees, cool breezes and sandy beaches.

While the country’s name change would be at or near the bottom of the nationâ€™s immediate priorities, it should not be ignored because there is no other country in the world that is named after a mass murderer.

If Ceylon could be changed to Sri Lanka , Mongolia to Ulan Bator , Siam to Thailand , Leningrad to St. Petersburg , Peking to Beijing , why can’t the Philippines change its name?

When Ferdinand Magellan â€œdiscoveredâ€ the islands on March 16, 1521, he named it the Archipelago de San Lazaro. We would have been called â€œLazaroansâ€ if Magellan had survived the Battle of Mactan against LapuLapu on April 27, 1521.

Three unsuccessful Spanish expeditions followed Magellan but all failed to reach â€œSan Lazaro.â€ The fourth expedition, led by Capt. Ruy Lopez de Villalobos, reached Sarangani Island off the eastern coast of Mindanao on February 2, 1543. He renamed the islands â€œFelipinasâ€ after the crown prince of Spain, Felipe II, the son of Spanish King Carlos V.

Villalobos left â€œLas Islas Felipinasâ€ after eight months and sailed to the Moluccas where he died. It would not be until 1572 when the Felipinas islands would become a colony of the Spanish empire.

By then, the crown prince had become King Felipe II and he was to rule Spain from 1556 to 1598. He would also rule the Netherlands and Portugal (starting in 1581) as well as the kingdoms of Milan, Naples and Sicily. In his time, Felipe II was the most powerful monarch in the world and it was said that the sun did not set on his empire.

When he became master of the Netherlands, Felipe II reenacted the Edict of 1550 which prohibited the printing, copying, keeping, buying or giving of any book written by Luther, Calvin or other â€œhereticsâ€ condemned by the Holy Church or the breaking or damaging of any image of the Holy Virgin or any Vatican-canonized saints. The penalty for Edict-breakers would be death by the sword for men and burning at the stake for women. Informers against suspects were to be entitled on conviction to half the property of the accused.

Before burning his opponents at the stake, this Catholic King insisted on going through an â€œAuto da Fe,â€ a religious ceremony which accompanied the sentencing of heretics by the Inquisition. Among the victims of Felipeâ€™s inquisition were more than 10,000 Lutherans and more than 80,000 Andalucian Moriscos, Spanish Moors who had converted to Catholicism but who had violated Felipeâ€™s edict prohibiting the speaking of the Arabic language or retaining of any of their ethnic culture.

While he was still crown prince, Felipe II married his first cousin, Princess Maria of Portugal, who provided him with a son, Don Carlos of Spain (1545-1568). Following Maria’s death in 1546, he married Catholic Queen Mary I of England in 1554 to cement an alliance with England .

After Queen Mary died in 1558, Felipe wanted to marry her successor, the Protestant Queen Elizabeth I but the plan failed. He blamed his son, Don Carlos, for the failure of the planned marriage and had him imprisoned where he later died.

Felipe then married his sonâ€™s fiancÃ©e, Princess Elisabeth of Valois, daughter of Henri II of France. Elisabeth provided him with two daughters, but no son. So Felipe married Anne, daughter of the Emperor Maximilian II, who provided him with an heir, Felipe III.

While he was engaged in wars with the Dutch, Felipe II put together the largest Spanish fleet (Armada) ever assembled, more than 100 ships with more than 30,000 men, to invade England in 1588. The pretext was Queen Elizabethâ€™s execution of Mary, the Catholic Queen of Scots. But English guile and the â€œProtestant Windâ€ thwarted Felipeâ€™s ambitions, and destroyed the Spanish fleet.

When Felipe died in 1598, Spain was bankrupt and in decline as a European power.

What does it mean then to be named after Felipe, to be called Felipinos (later changed to Filipinos), to be “like Felipe”, to be intolerant of other people and other religions?

Changing the name would also end all the confusion about the spelling of the country (Phillipines) or the people (Philippinos).

When Andres Bonifacio formed the Katipunan revolutionary organization against Spain in 1896, he refused to use the term â€œFilipinasâ€, preferring Tagalog or â€œKatagaluganâ€ to refer to the country.

Others objected on the grounds that Pilipinas sounded too much like â€œAlipinasâ€ (land of slaves). Some have proposed â€œKapatiranâ€ (brotherhood) or â€œKatipunanâ€. Others have suggested â€œLuzvimindaâ€ referring to the countryâ€™s three major group of islands.

In the late 1970s, the Dictator Ferdinand Marcos (who should have been named after Felipe the despot) seriously attempted to change the name of the country to â€œMaharlika,â€ the â€œwarrior-nobleâ€ in pre-colonial Felipinas who, like the Samurai class of Japan, rendered military service to his feudal lord. But his proposal went nowhere.

If countries like Bolivia could be named after their liberators, why canâ€™t the Pilipinas be named after Rizal? We would all be Rizalians.

My personal preference would be to call the country â€œBayanihanâ€ and we would all be â€œbayanisâ€ (heroes) bound together in the “Bayanihan” spirit of working for the common good.

SOURCE: Pinoy Wired (http://pinoywired.com/2008/09/03/name-change-for-the-philippines/)

Maharlika
Posted by Rodel Rodis
September 4, 2008

Reader response to my column about a name change for the Philippines was phenomenal. From Mindanao, Kauban M. wrote that Moros prefer Maharlika as “it is the name suited to our culture and character.” A local reader, Joseph Vizcarra, also liked Maharlika “Because it pays honor to the advanced indigenous civilization we had before the coming of the Spaniards. It also betrays our Hindu roots as well as blood links with the rest of the Austronesian family. On top of this we would all be called Maharlikans!”

Many readers pointed out that our Moro brothers and sisters in Mindanao and Sulu despise the names “Philippines” and “Filipinos” because of their colonial stigma. Alunan C. Glang asserted that only those who were subjugated by Spain and who bowed to the authority of King Felipe II should be called “Filipinos.” Since the Moros were never Spanish subjects, they were never “Filipinos.” In fact, for 350 years, generations of Moros had spilled blood precisely to avoid becoming “Filipinos.” Those unable to resist becoming Filipinos were regularly subjected to “Moro Moro” plays with the Spaniards depicted as the heroes and the Moros as the dastardly villains.

While the Spaniards named their farthest-flung colony “Filipinas,” they did not call its inhabitants Filipinos, they were “indios” as all natives of Spanish colonies were called. In Las Islas Filipinas, those who were pure full-blooded Spaniards from Spain were called “peninsulares.” Those with even a 1% drop of native or non-Spanish blood were contemptuously referred to as “insulares” or “Filipinos.” “Filipino” was a pejoratrive then and even now, a “Filipina” in England and other countries is a “domestic helper.”

By the 18th century, a new Ilustrado class emerged, an aggrupation of upper class indios and lower class insulares, propelled by indio intermarriage with the Chinese. (The Spaniards decreed that no Chinese man could leave Parian, the Chinese community just outside Intramuros, unless he was married to an indio woman). The first documented use of the term Filipino to refer to indio was in a poem written by an 18-year old boy named Jose Rizal. In his 1879 poem, “A la Juventud Filipina” (To the Filipino Youth), Rizal challenged the Filipino indio youth to be the hope of the motherland. Even though they were not “insulares,” Rizal and his classmates at the Ateneo still considered themselves “Filipinos”, what historian Ambeth Ocampo referred to as “little brown Spaniards”.

When Rizal went to Spain to study in 1881, he exhorted his fellow ilustrados to take pride in being an “indio.” In fact, he called his group “Indios Bravos”. Eventually, the Ilustrados in Spain would agree that “Filipino” should mean all people born in the islands, not just the insulares.

This position was not universally accepted. Andres Bonifacio, the founder of the Katipunan, called the people “tagalog” and referred to the country as “Katagalugan”. The Katipunan’s Cartilla, written and published in 1896, expressly stated: “The word tagalog means all those born in this archipelago; therefore, though visayan, ilocano, pampango, etc., they are all tagalogs.”

As Dr. Nathan Quimpo points out, “the Philippine Revolution of 1896 was a misnomer” as it really was the Katagalugan Revolution. “It became the Philippine Revolution only in 1897 when Emilio Aguinaldo, the former gobernadorcillo (mayor) of Kawit, ousted Bonifacio from the helm of the revolutionary movement and had him executed. Aguinaldo, who had continued all along to use Filipinas, dropped Katagalugan.”

At the Malolos Congress in October of 1898, Aguinaldo sought to establish a federation with the Moro sultanates of Mindanao and Sulu, an explicit recognition that they were not part of the nation that was being forged in Malolos.

After the US “annexed” the Philippines and captured Aguinaldo, members of the Katipunan loyal to Bonifacio established the Tagalog Republic in 1902 with Macario Sakay as president. This republic would last until 1906 when Sakay was captured by US troops and hanged as a bandit.

While in exile in Japan in 1913, Katipunan General Artemio Ricarte proposed that the Philippines be renamed “Rizaline Islands” and Filipinos, “Rizalines.” Ricarte called for the overthrow of the “foreign ghovernment” and drafted a constitution for the “revolutionary government of the Rizaline Republic.” Ricarte returned to the Philippines with the Japanese Imperial Army in 1942 but he could not change the name of the puppet republic.

There would be no serious effort to change the name of the country until a new constitution was drafted and ratified in 1971. Article XVI, Section 2 of the new constitution states that “The Congress, may by law, adopt a new name for the country which shall be truly reflective and symbolic of the ideals, history, and traditions of the people.”

After Ferdinand Marcos declared martial law in 1972, he convened an Interim Batasang Pambansa to replace the Congress that he had abolished by presidential decree. One of the representatives appointed by Marcos was Eddie (”Kuya Eddie”) Ilarde, a popular TV-radio personality from the 60s and 70s, who sponsored a parliamentary bill on August 14, 1978 seeking to change the name of the Philippines to Maharlika.

Unfortunately for Ilarde, Maharlika was inexorably linked to Marcos who claimed that it was the name of the guerilla unit he formed and led in WW II. It turned out to be a hoax along with his claim that he was the most decorated soldier of WW II.

[Before his claim was exposed, Marcos' cronies had produced a Hollywood movie entitled "Maharlika" about his alleged war exploits. A Hollywood starlet named Dovie Beams played an American nurse who became the love interest of the fictional guerilla Marcos. What was supposed to only be in reel became real when "Lovey Dovie" became Marcos' mistress.]

The term “Filipino nationalism” is a contradiction in terms. To be a nationalist is to be anti-colonial as “nationalism,” declared Sen. Claro M. Recto, “is the natural antagonist of colonialism.” To be a Filipino is to be a subject of King Felipe II. To be a nationalist is to refuse to be a colonial subject. So how can one be a “Filipino nationalist”?

Whether it is Maharlika, Katagalugan or Bayanihan, the time has come to discard the name Philippines or Filipinas.

SOURCE: Pinoy Wired (http://pinoywired.com/2008/09/04/maharlika/)

amigo32

September 22nd, 2008, 04:12 PM

ayoko:D
susunod nyan papalitan pangalan lahat ng pinoy. malamang nognog, makmak, liit, etc...ang mga pangalan natin:D

Mercato

September 22nd, 2008, 05:42 PM

ayoko:D
susunod nyan papalitan pangalan lahat ng pinoy. malamang nognog, makmak, liit, etc...ang mga pangalan natin:D Hindi tayo yan, kaya nga tayo BisDAK, e. Sila lang yan... :lol:

Con ayaw talaga nila Republic of the Philippines, e di proposals:

1. Filipinas - in honour of the First Filipino Republic, the original one which all our national heroes worked hard for and died for.

2. Negros - in honour of the original human inhabitants of the islands, the Aetas. Nope, sorry guys, Austronesians are from Taiwan and therefore do not count as original...

Lili

September 23rd, 2008, 03:36 AM

^ ows? inamin na nga ni amigo eh.

kakatawa... naalala ko yung "Jonno effect" na mga skewed poll questions. Asan na ba yun?

Saka nawawala rin si Raven -- creator of this thread.

diz

September 23rd, 2008, 05:42 AM

yeah what's wrong with Philippines other than it's hard to spell for foreigners?

Mercato

September 23rd, 2008, 07:37 AM

^^ Nothing wrong at all... Hindi lang kasi tayo nauubusan ng mga katulad ni Rodel Rodis na suffering from S.D.S. (small dick syndrome )... gustong mandamay... :lol:

^ ows? inamin na nga ni amigo eh.

kakatawa... naalala ko yung "Jonno effect" na mga skewed poll questions. Asan na ba yun?

Saka nawawala rin si Raven -- creator of this thread. Hindi, ayaw nga niya, e. Yun last sentence nya, konting delirio lang yun, mawawala din. kulang lang ng paracetamol. :)

Ba, last week proven na naman ang theory ko. We have this family friend, Indonesian Chinese lady, quite pretty, married to a rich Singaporean. But she confided to our female relatives na unhappy siya kasi the rich dude walang "panahon" sa kanya. Kaso mo, inamin rin niya may bago friend daw siya, Filipino. We never met the Filipino dude at all pero the lady tanong ng tanong how Filipino dudes are. Of course, Latin lovers of Asia. Next thing we knew (only last week), nag-divorce na ang Indon-Chin lady at kanya Sgpr esposong walang "passion". Ang Galing ng Filipino dude na yun, whoever he is. He don't got much money, pero lotsa lotsa honey & that's what counts... Wala na kami balita sa dalawa, baka nagtago na sa Jakarta. homewrecker :lol:

Maxxclip

September 23rd, 2008, 09:25 AM

"Republika ng mga Perlas sa Dagat Pasipiko sa Malayong Silangan"

amigo32

September 24th, 2008, 04:34 AM

^^ Nothing wrong at all... Hindi lang kasi tayo nauubusan ng mga katulad ni Rodel Rodis na suffering from S.D.S. (small dick syndrome )... gustong mandamay... :lol:

Hindi, ayaw nga niya, e. Yun last sentence nya, konting delirio lang yun, mawawala din. kulang lang ng paracetamol. :)

Ba, last week proven na naman ang theory ko. We have this family friend, Indonesian Chinese lady, quite pretty, married to a rich Singaporean. But she confided to our female relatives na unhappy siya kasi the rich dude walang "panahon" sa kanya. Kaso mo, inamin rin niya may bago friend daw siya, Filipino. We never met the Filipino dude at all pero the lady tanong ng tanong how Filipino dudes are. Of course, Latin lovers of Asia. Next thing we knew (only last week), nag-divorce na ang Indon-Chin lady at kanya Sgpr esposong walang "passion". Ang Galing ng Filipino dude na yun, whoever he is. He don't got much money, pero lotsa lotsa honey & that's what counts... Wala na kami balita sa dalawa, baka nagtago na sa Jakarta. homewrecker :lol:

Hindi ba ikaw yung Filpino dude?:D:lol::lol::lol:bai hinay-hinay:D

Lili

September 24th, 2008, 04:38 AM

^^ mahilig pala sa chismax si Mercato? :lol:

amigo32

September 24th, 2008, 04:40 AM

^^ mahilig pala sa chismax si Mercato? :lol:

parang gusto mong sabihing si Boy Abunda sya:D:lol:

Mercato

September 24th, 2008, 06:28 AM

^^ 'yoko nyan, ampangit naman... :hilarious
^^ mahilig pala sa chismax si Mercato? :lol:
mahilig naman, basta may butas masisilungan sa ulan at hamog... :lol:
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tapos na impake ko, makalayas na nga sa bubwit na islang ito. next bulaga ko nasa San Jose, CA. na ko!!! :lol: (actually, wala naman laman maleta ko e. Kasi nakalaan na to para sa Costco stockpiling).

amigo32

September 24th, 2008, 06:38 AM

Sinraan pa ang Singapore:D

Mercato

September 24th, 2008, 07:11 AM

toxic ako sa trabajo e...

may ganyan din ako sombrero, diba Indiana Jones hat yat? Coool cat... Binili ko after watching the movie Crystal Skull. :lol:

amigo32

September 24th, 2008, 11:51 AM

toxic ako sa trabajo e...

may ganyan din ako sombrero, diba Indiana Jones hat yat? Coool cat... Binili ko after watching the movie Crystal Skull. :lol:

puede pakisuot din at kunan mo ng pic sarili mo para gawing avatar.:D:lol:

lancetrn

September 25th, 2008, 04:22 AM

Today is September 25, 2008 5th Maharlika Sunrise Festival

The Ferment of Change: A Case for Maharlika
By Eddie U. Ilarde

Astonishment and wonder were the unfavorable reactions of our peers in the Interim Batasang Pambansa when we filed Parliamentary Bill 195 on August 14, 1978 seeking to change the name Philippines to Maharlika. It was as if to say “some members have lost their marbles to even contemplate such a thing”, as if they didn’t know that Article XVI, Section 2 of the constitution says that “The Congress, may by law, adopt a new name for the country x x x x which shall be truly reflective and symbolic of the ideals, history, and traditions of the people x x x such law shall take effect only upon ratification by the people min a national referendum.”

Even more hostile was the accusation that the bill was drawn-up by President Ferdinand Marcos himself, "Maharlika" having been associated with him during the war when he named his guerrilla unit to fight the Japanese invaders “Maharlika.” If true, the bill would have passed without question in that “rubber stamp congress.” But the measure did not even merit a committee hearing. The consoling thought however is, the bill was ahead of its time in a country long indoctrinated to accept blindly historical inaccuracies and Western hegemony and culture—the people made averse to resisting a deeply rooted conservative status quo as a consequence.

“The times are changing” is an affirmation of present circumstances. Today we see encouraging developments in favor of our proposal, but only after 27 years. Opposition has started to give way to an open mind by the same people who yesterday sneered at it.

Recently we have been receiving letters mostly from Filipinos abroad asking if our proposal to rename the country is still alive, realizing the relevance today. This country’s image in the eyes of the world today is at its worst, tarnished by such epithets as “the most corrupt country in the world,” a nation of cheats and thieves,” “a country of slums and hungry children,” “the dirtiest country in the world,” and other negative exaggerations. Heir common complaint: “We are constantly humiliated as “Filipinos’ in our host countries with insults like ‘the Philippines is a country of prostitutes, maids, thieves,’ and other indignitaries we cannot swallow any longer.” The shared optimism is “if we become Maharlikans this Filipino identity shall be erased forever and the world shall take notice and stop insulting our country as we create a new image and rebuild our reputation.

Great thinkers and visionaries have some time derived their thoughts and judgment from the common people. We must take our cue from this urgent call. If we don’ move this country shall be left behind by then winds of progress. In this country the wheels of change are heavy and slow. Our people are averse to change and are easily disinclined to anything outside the scope of easy comprehension. It is time to find the psychological why and wherefore and from there we must find the catharsis to expel this negative nature. Simple experiment al applications of new ways to improve existing conditions are always met with contempt, which lead to protracted squabbling and to miscarriage of good intentions. “Let us keep what we have; the known evil is best,” describes us best.

Our people's character of easily accepting “what is there and what is given” is so ingrained; what were imposed upon us in 1543 have coarsely acquired lasting currency through the centuries. The “ferment of change” addressed by other counties in Asia, Africa, Europe, and in other regions, we have ignored. Formosa, Siam, Dutch East Indies, French Indochina, Malaya, Ceylon, Burma, Khmer/Kampuchea, Persia, Bombay, Calcutta, to name only a few have all changed their names. We have remained as is even as we behold the phenomenal economic growth of these neighbors brought about by a compulsion for change back to the reassured ethos of their past which served as the touchstone for their quest for progress and prosperity.

Our penchant for change is so trivial, proven by changing only the names of streets and other minor things and places. Dewey Blvd. is changed to Roxas Blvd. because Dewey was American; Azcarraga to Recto because Azcarraga was Spaniard, etc. The country is named after King Philip II of Spain. Have we ever asked ourselves what kind of a man we were named after?

Philip was only ¼ Spaniard, his father Charles V was Hapsburg and did not even speak a word in Spanish when he became a king. Philip was as some historians call “a monster of bigotry, ambition, lust and cruelty.” His own official court historian described him as a man whose “smile and dagger were very close.” He was the son of fist cousins. His grandmother Juana died of insanity. Even today she is known in Spain as “Juana la loca.” His “auto-da-fe” after being sworn in as king was the burning in the stake alive of thousands of Muslims in Spain. Protestants in Europe, then under Spain were beheaded as heretics. He was ex-communicated as a Catholic by the pope for looting Rome. He died of what historians evasively described as a very communicable social disease (syphilis) that had affected his mind. Before he died thousands of insects festered his whole body which was covered with ulcers dripping with puss and reeking with unbearable smell. His name is better forgotten whose unpleasant memory we still honor today by identifying ourselves as Filipinos, carrying his name with pride.

Maharlika is our ancient heritage and has been with us long before Western colonialists set foot on our shoes. Maha is Sanskrit for noble, great, as in Taj Mahal. Mahatma (a great soul); the moon that supports all the planets and celestial bodies,” “The food that nourishes vital forces in everyone, “chanting Maha is to be one with the Lord,” “Maha is God Himself.” The inflectional ending of Maharlika, Likha is our own word for create, make, cause, design, breed, conceived, Maharlika therefore means “nobly created,” “God’s creation,” “the self personified,” etc. The great philosopher-philologist-spiritual master P.R. Sarkar said, “Maharlika means a small container (country) containing great things (people).” Maharlika is a spiritual mantra, a divine name.

The name “Filipino” has obscenely outlasted is purpose and has become malapropos. We only need it as much as we need a tragic memory. Our people must hear from our leaders in government, business, the academe, and from our opinion makers. Maharlika shall be the precursor of the great transformation of this country; it shall inspire a romantic tale, nay, a great national epic which is absent in our present annals. Maharlika shall discover our true identity, then beginning of our renaissance, our rebirth to greatness.

[Eddie Ilarde is a former councilor, congressman, senator, and assemblyman. He is a Lifetime Achievement Awardee for radio and television having pioneered many programs of lasting value to the country. He is the founder of Maharlika Foundation for National Transformation and Golden Eagles Society International, a movement to benefit the older people of the world. Kuya Eddie, as he is fondly called is semi-retired author and free-lance writer and spends his time in his small arm in the province].
http://mindanaokini.blogspot.com/2008/08/ferment-of-change-case-for-maharlika.html

3D-CAD

September 25th, 2008, 04:35 AM

Kung papalitan ang "Pilipinas" gusto ko ang kapalit ay :

PINOYWOOD

Para artista tayong lahat...

stanleymalls

September 25th, 2008, 04:57 AM

^^ Sosyal! :applause:

bukid

September 25th, 2008, 06:01 AM

Kung papalitan ang "Pilipinas" gusto ko ang kapalit ay :

PINOYWOOD

Para artista tayong lahat...

payag ako basta ito ang national anthem natin:

hcjFP3ml4ro&feature=related

amigo32

September 25th, 2008, 07:13 AM

Paano kaya kung napalitan na nga ng Maharlika ang name, siguro ang tawag sa mga Pinoy ay Maharlikan:D. Maharlikan prostitute kung nasa Japan, hindi na Filpina:D Maharlikan maids in Hongkong:D

we are so jologs na:D

kahit anong palit mo ng name kung hindi nagbabago ang pinoy, ganun pa rin yun.

prostitute nagpalit ng suot ng madre, pero namimickup pa rin ng customer prostitute pa rin sya.

hindi palit ng pangalan, palit ng ugaling masama ang kailangan:D

bukid

September 25th, 2008, 07:24 AM

^^ pre, boboto ako sa yo sa 2010. :D

amigo32

September 25th, 2008, 07:28 AM

thanks pre, i need more votes please:D

bukid

September 25th, 2008, 07:30 AM

^^ :D basta ikaw pre. call me when you need me. huwag lang kalimutan ang "gamay na pahalipay". :D

Mercato

September 25th, 2008, 05:50 PM

Kung papalitan ang "Pilipinas" gusto ko ang kapalit ay :

PINOYWOOD

Para artista tayong lahat...
Payag ako Pinoywood, heto ang shortlist ng mga magiging avatars ko:
1. Darth Vader
2. Sean Connery - the Best 007
3. Indiana Jones – Harrison Ford
4. Denzel Washington
5. Will Smith
6. Lou Diamond Philips
7. Lewis Hamilton – yung F1 Grand Prix (Half-Negro Half Brit) celebrity now in the Singapore Grand Prix (Sept 26-28, 2008 Nood kayo ha?).
8. James Dean
9. Luis Miguel – El Sol
10. Christian Bale
11. Charlton Heston
12. Patrick Dempsey – Derek Shepherd (Gray’s Anatomy)

Ayos… (Great)
Mabuhay ang (Hurray for) Hollywood! Sa wakas (At long last) magiging English (will become the) na ang national language!!!
http://www.clipartof.com/images/emoticons/xsmall2/721_darth_vader_fighting_luke_skywalker.gif

neyoneyo80

September 25th, 2008, 10:11 PM

payag ako basta ito ang national anthem natin:

hcjFP3ml4ro&feature=related

parang ang baduy yata :lol:

from_antipolo

September 25th, 2008, 11:27 PM

"Republika ng mga Perlas sa Dagat Pasipiko sa Malayong Silangan"

baklang-bakla naman itong name na 'to. lol.

Maxxclip

September 26th, 2008, 01:29 AM

^^:lol: ayaw mo nun, well represented sila :hilarious

Lili

September 26th, 2008, 02:32 AM

^^ para kay from_antipolo at Maxxclip, JOLONYO na lang kaya?

O di kaya Republic of Conlog.

Depende ang billing kung kaninong thread ang mas umatikabo -- Jologs or Conyo thread.

:nocrook:

Maxxclip

September 26th, 2008, 02:42 AM

^^ para kay from_antipolo at Maxxclip, JOLONYO na lang kaya?

O di kaya Republic of Conlog.

:lol: ok sa akin ang "Republic of Conlog"...sounds like Rep. of Congo"

Depende ang billing kung kaninong thread ang mas umatikabo -- Jologs or Conyo thread.

:nocrook:

well...nakaka dalawa na kaming thread:lol: :nocrook:

amigo32

September 26th, 2008, 03:31 AM

baka ang hidwaan namn nyan ay hindi na muslim-kristyano, baka jologs-conyo na:D ang saya noon:D

Sleepwalker

September 26th, 2008, 04:36 AM

^^ para kay from_antipolo at Maxxclip, JOLONYO na lang kaya?

O di kaya Republic of Conlog.

Depende ang billing kung kaninong thread ang mas umatikabo -- Jologs or Conyo thread.

:nocrook:

Para namang tapsilog...hahahahahh

Conlog = corned beef na may itlog... :)

Peace, Madam

bukid

September 26th, 2008, 05:57 AM

parang ang baduy yata :lol:

:lol: ayaw mo kay elvis? :lol:

sige palitan nalang natin...

ito nalang:

2A2Jt4WOxN8

:D

SUV111

September 26th, 2008, 07:27 AM

Mayor to forge
sisterhoods in Korea

Bacolod City, represented by Mayor Evelio Leonardia, will forge a tripartite sister-city relationship with Singaraja City, Indonesia, and Andong City, South Korea during his trip to Andong City over the weekend.

Leonardia was authorized by the Sangguniang Panlungsod through a resolution to sign the sister city agreement with the two cities.

It is a rare occasion where three cities will be forging a tripartite sister city agreement, a City Hall press release said yesterday.

The three cities vow to cooperate with each other to collect, share, research and creatively utilize cultural materials related to masks. The agreement to be signed by Leonardia with the mayors of the two cities, also states that masks represent the diversity of cultures of each city.

“We are looking forward to seeing with this sister city agreement, we will be able to further promote the MassKara Festival as an international tourist attraction,” Leonardia said.

Leonardia will address the Andong symposium in South Korea and to attend the 2008 Andong Maskdance Festival. The festival, which is celebrating its 12th year, is participated in by various countries whose festivals are highlighted by street dancing with mask-wearing dancers.

Bacolod City will present its world famous MassKara Festival that will be represented by 10 MassKara street dancers from Barangay Alijis, last year’s winner in the street dancing competition.

The Barangay Alijis dancers are Charlene Solisa, An-an Detablan, Louanne Marie Altares, Julie Ann Diolazo, Katrina Tupas, Bonnie Canete, Rey Sinogbuhan, Globert Bombio, Jose Johnson Yasay and Jun Michael Villaruz.

Bacolod’s MassKara Festival has been invited to and has represented the country in some major festivals in Asia, notably in Singapore, Hong Kong and in Shanghai, China where it drew the attention of international media.

The MassKara Festival also won the championship in the foreign category contest of the Midosuji Festival Parade of Osaka, Japan.*

http://visayandailystar.com/2008/September/26/businessnews2.htm

icarusrising

September 26th, 2008, 11:36 AM

OIC chief pledges Mindanao aid (http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/breakingnews/nation/view/20080926-163096/OIC-chief-pledges-Mindanao-aid)

By Joel Guinto

INQUIRER.net

First Posted 15:27:00 09/26/2008
MANILA, Philippines -- The head of the Organization of Islamic Conference (OIC) has pledged to provide development assistance in Mindanao, and to "consolidate different factions" in the region in a bilateral meeting with President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo, Malacañang said Friday.

"We will do our role to consolidate different factions and help in the socio-economic development of Mindanao, improve the life of the people in the area because there can't be peace without economic development," a Palace statement quoted OIC secretary general Elmeddin Ihsanoghu as telling the President.

Arroyo "agreed" with Ihsanoghu's assessment that peace went hand in hand with development, the Palace said.

The President also likened the Mindanao peace process to Northern Ireland, which remained part of the United Kingdom, even if it enjoyed a certain degree of autonomy.

"We have to undergo the experiences of Northern Ireland," the statement quoted the President as saying.

The statement did not elaborate on the nature of the development assistance, and on which groups comprised the "factions."

Peace negotiations between the government and the Moro Islamic Liberation Front (MILF) ground to a halt after rebel commanders raided civilian communities in Central Mindanao, and after the Supreme Court had stopped the signing of a key agreement.

The government has a standing peace accord with the Moro National
Liberation Front (MNLF), from which the MILF broke away. The MNLF
governs the Autonomous Region in Muslim Mindanao (ARMM).

In an earlier statement, the Palace said Ihsanoghu assured Arroyo during the same meeting that the OIC would support a peace agreement in Mindanao, only if it would not impinge on Philippine sovereignty.

TONZI

September 26th, 2008, 12:10 PM

im really dissapointed that there is such stereotype or discrimination with the muslims?
one time when i was in the LRT there is a muslim family and some people staring at them.im imagining if im with them i would felt bad but not ashamed
because people should educate themselves that not all muslims are terrorist.

The implication of this? let me tell you what I observed on riding a ferry from Cagayan de Oro to Cebu and from Tagbilaran City to Cagayan de Oro:

When I was on my deck bound for Cebu, the family who occupied the deck beside us we're Muslim ladies, a mother and two daughters whose father is in Cebu. I've seen other Muslims too who were riding the same boat for Cebu. On boarding the boat most of the ladies were wearing their head covers (kumbong) but when we arrived in Cebu, none of them we're wearing head covers (kumbong) anymore.

That goes the same when we got on a ferry from Tagbilaran to Cagayan de Oro. Our pick up truck was on the cargo bay of the boat that we we're riding. There were only two pick up trucks on the cargo bay that time, a guy was also on the other pick up taking some things and I, who was also taking things on the back side of the pick up, did not think of anything about him during that time. During the voyage, I ddn't see anyone wearing a head cover (kumbong) as they we're also on the tourist cabin where my sister in law was in. When we were on the port of Cdeo waiting for the pass from the port officials for our vehicles to be released, I saw that all of them were all Muslims coz the women were wearing head covers (kumbong) that time and their driver was speaking the Maranao dialect with his companion on the back side of the pick up truck.

I think discrimination is present specially in the Visayas and Luzon areas as these places are not the mother homeland of our Maranao brothers and sisters. Though not so rampant in Mindanao, discrimination can still be observed. The problem of this is that our government does not see discrimination as one of the major problems affecting our muslim brothers and sisters. I befriended muslim parents at the school of my daughter becoz they are nice too. The only problem is that some people tend to generalize the muslims as equal to the muslim rebels such as the MILF or MNLF.

I understand that cultural minorities tend to be discriminated becoz they are low in number as seen in the discrimination of the blacks in America in the first half of 20th century but at least the American government managed to pass anti discrimination laws in their country which is at this time what's not been acted upon by our government.

icarusrising

September 26th, 2008, 12:29 PM

US: Religious discrimination contributes to RP conflicts (http://www.gmanews.tv/story/122644/US-Religious-discrimination-contributes-to-RP-conflicts)
09/24/2008 | 09:06 PM

MANILA, Philippines - Ethnic, religious and cultural discrimination against Muslim minorities contributed to persistent conflicts in some provinces in the Philippines, a United States report said.

The US Bureau of Democracy, Human Rights and Labor made this assessment in its International Religious Freedom Report 2008, dated Sept. 19 but posted on the US Embassy website Wednesday.

The report said that despite religious freedom in the Philippines, Muslims still complain “that the Government has not made sufficient efforts to promote their economic development.”

“Some Muslim religious leaders asserted that Muslims suffered from economic discrimination," it said, adding that ethnic, religious, and cultural discrimination against members of the Muslim minority by members of the Christian majority exists in the country.

“This, combined with economic disparities, contributed to persistent conflict in certain provinces," it said.

It said that historically, Muslims have been alienated socially from the Christian majority, and some ethnic and cultural discrimination against Muslims has been recorded.

"Young Muslim professionals reported that some employers stereotype Muslims as being less educated. Some Muslims reported that they had difficulty renting rooms in boarding houses or being hired for retail work if they used their real names or wore distinctive Muslim dress.
Therefore, many resorted to adopting Christian pseudonyms and wearing Western clothing," it said.

However, it said the government promoted interfaith dialogue to build mutual trust and respect among various religious and cultural groups. It also said amicable ties among religious communities are common, and many participate in interdenominational efforts to alleviate poverty.

Also, it noted that last March 12, President Arroyo created the Council on Interfaith Initiatives to strengthen government's existing institutional arrangements for interfaith activities.

The Council replaced the National Committee on Interfaith Cooperation as the highest policy-making body for the Government's interfaith initiatives.

Also, the US said the government "generally respected religious freedom in practice," and there was no change in the status of respect for religious freedom by the government.

It said the US government discusses religious freedom with the Philippine government as part of its overall policy to promote human rights.

"The Embassy actively encouraged the peace process between the Government and Moro Islamic Liberation Front and maintained active outreach with religious leaders and nongovernmental organizations (NGOs) to engage them in interfaith activities," it said.

In its report, the US said Islam is the largest minority religion, and Muslims constitute between 5 and 9 percent of the total population.

Groups that together constitute less than 5 percent of the population include Seventh-day Adventists, United Church of Christ, United Methodist, the Episcopal Church in the Philippines, Assemblies of God, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormons), and Philippine (Southern) Baptists. Domestically established denominations include the Philippine Independent Church (Aglipayan), the Iglesia ni Cristo (Church of Christ), and the Members Church of God International.

Christianity is the majority religion among indigenous peoples.

Between 12 million and 16 million indigenous persons adhere to Catholicism or Protestantism, often incorporating elements of traditional indigenous belief systems.

The 1987 Constitution provides for freedom of religion, and other laws and policies contributed to the generally free practice of religion.

According to the US, the Philippine government permits religious instruction in public schools with the written consent of parents, provided there is no cost to government.

Local public schools give church groups the opportunity to teach moral values during school hours. Attendance is not mandatory, and various churches share classroom space.

Approximately 14 percent of the Mindanao student population attended Islamic schools (madrassahs). Government officials estimated the number of Islamic schools at more than 2,000.

Government's National Ecumenical Consultative Committee (NECCOM) fosters interfaith dialogue among major religious groups, including the Roman Catholic Church, Muslim groups, Iglesia ni Cristo, Aglipayan, and Protestant denominations.

Also, the Philippine government observes Maundy Thursday, Good Friday, Easter, All Saints' Day, Christmas Day, and Eid al-Fitr as national holidays, the US noted.

On the other hand, the US noted the Code of Muslim Personal Laws recognizes Islamic law (Shari'a) as part of national law.

"However, it does not apply in criminal matters, and it applies only to Muslims," it said.

It added some Muslim community leaders (ulamas) argued that the Government should allow Islamic courts to extend their jurisdiction to criminal law cases, and some supported the MILF's goal of forming an autonomous region governed in accordance with Islamic law.

"As in other parts of the judicial system, the Shari'a courts suffered from a large number of unfilled positions. All five Shari'a district court judgeships and 37 percent of circuit court judgeships remained vacant. Aside from budget restrictions, judicial positions on the Shari'a courts were particularly difficult to fill because applicants are required to be members of the Shari'a Bar in addition to the Integrated Bar of the Philippines," it noted.

Still, it noted there were no reports of religious prisoners or detainees in the country.

The US added there were no reports of forced religious conversion, including of minor US citizens who had been abducted or illegally removed from the US, or of the refusal to allow such citizens to be returned to the US.

Also, it said amicable ties among religious communities are common, and many participate in interdenominational efforts to alleviate poverty.

It cited the Interfaith Group, a NGO which includes Catholic, Islamic, and Protestant representatives, continued to support the Mindanao peace process.

The Peacemakers' Circle Foundation, a loose coalition of various religious and faith-based groups, focuses on building and strengthening interfaith relations in selected communities through dialogue.

Also, there is an active Bishops-Ulamas Conference in Mindanao that brings together Catholic bishops and members of the Ulama League of the Philippines from Mindanao to hold dialogues on addressing local issues of peace, order and inter-cultural solidarity.

"Leadership of human rights groups, trade union confederations, and industry associations typically represents many religious persuasions," the US said.

For its part, the US said its government discusses religious freedom with the Government as part of its overall policy to promote human rights.

US embassy officers regularly met with representatives of all major religious groups to discuss these problems and concerns, while the US government actively supported the Government's peace process with Muslim insurgents in Mindanao.

The Embassy also maintained active outreach with NGOs. In July 2007 the Embassy hosted the visit of an American imam who conducted an interfaith summer camp for Muslim, Christian, and Lumad (indigenous people of Mindanao) high school student leaders, as well as interfaith outreach seminars for Christian and Muslim community leaders and clergy.

"For fiscal year 2007, 60 percent of the United States Agency for International Development's (USAID) $69 million budget for the country went to programs in Mindanao, mostly in the ARMM. USAID programs were instrumental in supporting the peace process and helped foster an environment for greater religious tolerance. One example of such an effort was a multiyear USAID program that helped 28,000 former MNLF members make the transition from fighting to productive farming," it said.

The Embassy also sought to help religious leaders broaden their cultural understanding through the Mission's exchange programs.

During the period covered in this report, the Embassy sent both Muslim and Christian leaders to the United States on International Visitor Program (IVP) grants.

It also used two student exchange programs, the Youth Leadership Program, and the Youth Exchange and Study (YES) Program, to enable Muslim students to study in the United States and learn about religious tolerance and pluralism from the perspective of American youth.

During the 2007 academic year, the YES Program sponsored 40 secondary students from the ARMM to spend the academic year living with an American family.

In April 2008, through the Youth Leadership Program, 21 Muslim, Christian, and Lumad students attended a 4-week student exchange program with an American university. A Citizens Exchange Program sent six Muslim leaders from the country to the United States for a month to meet with Americans engaged in interfaith dialogue. - GMANews.TV

Mercato

September 27th, 2008, 07:11 AM

^^ Who is that? Ensacto na to si The King wag na palitan... naunsa sila. Di kumpleto ang Republic of Pinoywood con wala si Elvis. :D
Para namang tapsilog...hahahahahh

Conlog = corned beef na may itlog... :)

Peace, Madam Dili hinuon, maorag... maorag.... parang Republic of Cogmo :lol:
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kyle@1008

September 28th, 2008, 07:48 AM

united states of southeast asia.....:colgate: USEA, we'll call ourselves sea people...

amigo32

September 28th, 2008, 07:55 AM

united states of southeast asia.....:colgate: USEA, we'll call ourselves sea people...

in tagalog? dyesebel/syokoy:D:D:D

kyle@1008

September 28th, 2008, 08:36 AM

^^ nah, english, we'lll be referred to as seamen

stanleymalls

September 28th, 2008, 09:07 AM

united states of southeast asia.....:colgate: USEA, we'll call ourselves sea people...

Pwede rin. Kaso hindi nga natin ka-closeness yung mga neighbors natin eh.

Eto na lang: The Republic of The Pearl and the Orient.

Mejo sosyal ba? Or a mouthful?

kyle@1008

September 28th, 2008, 09:18 AM

of course we are...even then we're still located in southeast asia,..

amigo32

September 28th, 2008, 11:04 AM

^^ nah, english, we'lll be referred to as seamen

oky, semen is fine:D

kyle@1008

September 28th, 2008, 11:36 AM

^^ ayan ha agreed na tayo, we're USSEA united states of southeast asia,.. we'll ourselves semen ....

red_jasper

September 29th, 2008, 01:11 AM

Ramadan may end on Monday, say Muslim leaders

Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 05:28:00 09/29/2008

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Members of Muslim families displaced by military actions against Moro rebels wait for their turn to receive food
assistance in Datu Piang town in Maguindanao. Fighting is expected to intensify after the Islamic fasting of
Ramadan, which may end Monday night. JEOFFREY MAITEM/INQUIRER MINDANAO

COTABATO CITY—Ramadan fasting might end on its 29th day if the crescent moon is sighted on Monday, Muslim religious leaders said Sunday.

Aleem Omar Pasigan, Mindanao’s oldest mufti (guardian of the House of Opinion, the decision making body of the Muslims), said a reconvened moon-sighting committee will determine whether the holy fasting month is to be 29- or 30-day, through naked eye lunar observation and credible organizational networking with similarly tasked groups and institutions here and abroad.

But he said it really didn’t make a difference to Muslims whether they had fasted for 29 or 30 days, because Ramadan often ends mid-hours of its 30th day, which means that the moon had by then risen for the following lunar month of Sawal.

Pasigan said the Dharul Ifta will collectively make the announcement on Monday evening, even as the religious sector and the government appeared to have settled on designating Oct. 1, a Wednesday, the officially Eid’l Fitr holiday.

Ustadz Esmael Ebrahim, spokesperson of the Assembly of Philippine Dharul Ifta, said whether or not fasting days ends on Monday, Eid’l Fitr prayer will most likely be held on Oct. 1.

President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo has declared Oct. 1 a regular holiday in solidarity with the Muslim world’s celebration of the Eid’l Fitr.

The celebration of Eid’l Fitr festivity continues up to three days after the holiday congregational prayers.

But the Moro Islamic Liberation Front might designate an earlier holiday Tuesday, if Ramadan proves to be 29 days this year. A religious leader, asking not to be identified for security reasons, said the MILF through its network of ustadz (religious leaders) might do this in protest of government troops’ offensives against groups of recalcitrant Moro commanders in Maguindanao and Lanao Norte provinces.

Full article (http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/inquirerheadlines/regions/view/20080929-163510/Ramadan-may-end-on-Monday-say-Muslim-leaders)

mAiNsTrEaMhunter

September 29th, 2008, 11:27 AM

i guess what's needed here is federating the philippines. i think because of culture, language, and geography, the philippines should be federalized. come to think about the US, a federalized country that shares common language, land, and culture (although some have european and native-american influences) but they're "united" in the sense, politically! how much more with us.:ohno::ohno::ohno:

Mercato

September 30th, 2008, 02:15 AM

Sleepwalker

September 30th, 2008, 02:27 AM

^^ puede na rin... e, di puede na rin siguro -overthrow sina SinJin, Kiretoce et al niyan? :nocrook:

Kasi,... kasi di ba ang filipino word sa semen ay da mod/ the mod? O di lahat tayo ay Da Mods na rin... :lol:
http://www.clipartof.com/images/emoticons/xsmall2/721_darth_vader_fighting_luke_skywalker.gif

Hahahahha...At pinag-isipan mo talaga nang maigi ito...:)

But i like the Federal Republic of Cogmo or Federal Republic of Caspa.....Exotic kasi ang dating...Hehehehhe

Peace to All

Mercato

September 30th, 2008, 02:40 AM

di man, sayon ra man kay aktibo man ako utok con makainom ta'g diyutay
if all else fails... o di Federal Republic of the Visayas... :lol: :runaway:

mwg12a

September 30th, 2008, 04:37 AM

yuong Poll result, mukhang isang malaking "dirty finger" ano nga ba sa tagalog ang "flip someone off" ?
:))

bitoy

September 30th, 2008, 06:43 AM

^^ I think it was called "Ngat-ngatin mo baby", nuong araw :lol:

crappypants

September 30th, 2008, 07:02 AM

nasa na ba si JOnno? I miss his polls nothing can make a poll like jOnno.

mAiNsTrEaMhunter

September 30th, 2008, 07:40 AM

i guess its enough that the capital is still manila....with all that capital thingy makes manila dangerous! i can't afford seeing cebu or others with too many militant groups, riots, demos, throwing mindless games!!!!!! i guess manila is synonymous to corrupt politicians and crap leftists so let it be that way nalang....cheers

mAiNsTrEaMhunter

September 30th, 2008, 09:04 AM

i guess mas maganda kung ichange ang name to Corruptia!!!!! Tama! Corruptia then tawag sa mga politico...corruptians!!!!! :lol::lol::lol::lol:

amigo32

September 30th, 2008, 11:18 AM

nasa na ba si JOnno? I miss his polls nothing can make a poll like jOnno.

orig yun eh,

beware of fake, imitations:D:D:D

skyscraper100

September 30th, 2008, 11:35 AM

I would suggest....... BAGUIO CITY. wala lang para kapag nagrereport ng weather forecast for world capitals..... ganito lalabas...

Washinton DC=0 ;
Paris=5 ;
Tokyo= -2 ;
Beijing= -1 ;
Moscow=-4;
Berlin=3;
Baguio= 10;
O di ba feeling malamig din sa Pinas...

Seriously, Baguio City would be the best Choice.

pag baguio,parang naging capital ang cubao medyo malamig nga lang.

kung new capital siguro QC na lang.besides all the govt. offices nasa
may circle area and they should plan it all over like putra jaya in malaysia.

Wolfranz

September 30th, 2008, 06:15 PM

IMO, Manila should retain the capital city status. What we need is effective decentralization of the government system.

There is no need for a new capital. All we need to do is to revive the lost beauty of the Pearl of the Orient.

-----------------------
33 centuries ago, the pharaoh Akhenaten transferred the capital of ancient Egypt from Thebes to a newly built city called Akhetaton. But the decision was unpopular that after his death, his successor wasted no time in moving the royal court back to Thebes.

The absolute powers of Louis XIV, Le Roi Soleil of France enabled him to move his court from Paris to Versailles. But the magnificence & unparalleled grandeur of the new capital proved no match for the course of French history after his reign. Versailles was abandoned and Paris regained the capital status once again.

Maybe we can reflect from these instances in history.
:)

ona

September 30th, 2008, 07:10 PM

federalism is an effective way of decentralization.

Mercato

September 30th, 2008, 08:11 PM

Strange, never saw this thread before. Now here is another example of a time wasting thread like the country-name-changing one somewhere else.

IMHO, if there is a country called Las Filipinas, thence the capital can be no other than Manila as per its original design. However, I do prefer the old pre-war Manila centred around the old districts; like the old newsreels I saw at Youtube. Old Manila looked elegant and dignified; very stately and the buildings & plans were reminiscent of old Europe.

People during pre-war days were well educated and had highly developed social graces, the sense of civility was high. Even with simple things like going out on the streets, their generation made it a point to be well dressed with the coat, tie and hat. Ladies were dressed in the terno and saya. The Manila of 2008 is polluted, crammed with people and development is uneven. Some places are extremely fancy whilst other places are dirt poor. As for the cultural mindset, people now like to associate with the culture from the gutters.

Anyway, why can't this thread just die a natural death? :lol:
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Animo

October 1st, 2008, 12:39 AM

The meaning of Philip:

Philip (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip) is a personal name, derived from the Greek Philippos (Φίλιππος), meaning "lover of horses" or "friend of horses". The name was given by the Macedonian kings, who established a cavalry and so became friends of horses. Philip (and alternative spellings Phillip,Philippe, Philipp, Felip, Felipe, Filip, Filipe)

^^ Ayan, Philippians/Philipinos (lots of English speaking people write this one) daw like to HUNG out with the kabayos/caballos. :D Filipinos are HUNG like a horse? :jk: Then we should definitely keep it. :lol:

Animo

October 1st, 2008, 12:43 AM

Hahahahha...At pinag-isipan mo talaga nang maigi ito...:)

But i like the Federal Republic of Cogmo or Federal Republic of Caspa.....Exotic kasi ang dating...Hehehehhe

Peace to All

Eww... caspa (dandruff) is a Spanish word. Then its not exotic! (Sarcasm) This goes with those Filipinos who try to exclude anything foreign and yet they don't know that they are very much destroying what they are!

habagatcentral1

October 1st, 2008, 01:55 AM

^^ Because some forumers wants it resurrected from the grave. Anyway, Halloween or Piesta Minatay/All Saints Day is nearby. :lol: :lol: :D

SUV111

October 1st, 2008, 02:12 AM

Strange, never saw this thread before. Now here is another example of a time wasting thread like the country-name-changing one somewhere else.

:lol:
http://www.clipartof.com/images/emoticons/xsmall2/721_darth_vader_fighting_luke_skywalker.gif

:okay::okay::okay:

Mr. Sandman

October 1st, 2008, 05:12 AM

Kasi,... kasi di ba ang filipino word sa semen ay da mod/ the mod? O di lahat tayo ay Da Mods na rin... :lol:I believe the word is tamod.
Eww... caspa (dandruff) is a Spanish word. Then its not exotic! (Sarcasm) This goes with those Filipinos who try to exclude anything foreign and yet they don't know that they are very much destroying what they are!Republika ng Balakubak?!?! Why not?
There's already a delicacy which prompts giggles amongst Spanish speakers when they're invited to a Filipino merienda:

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Mercato

October 1st, 2008, 06:35 AM

^^^^^^
I do knooow that, bro… I wuz tryin to be circumvent & discreet bout the first word u mentioned, one needn’t spell it out sooo blatantly.:lol:
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Now, now please don't look down on my part time job. We may work the graveyard shift but at least the pay ain't that bad...:lol: I remember, someone here once said ( & it wasn't me!!! ), "if u got it, flaunt it". :lol:
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Mercato

October 1st, 2008, 07:48 AM

Eww... caspa (dandruff) is a Spanish word. Then its not exotic! (Sarcasm) This goes with those Filipinos who try to exclude anything foreign and yet they don't know that they are very much destroying what they are! Caspa is the Cebuano word for balakubak. :lol:

Irony of ironies, the exclusion whereof thou speakest is only applied to the white invader but it is non-existent vis-à-vis the brown invader. I need not re-quote the lines drawn out by the bewildered. From where they stand on their paradigm angle, they see being Indian/ being Hindu as being pure native & homogeneous to the Filipino spirit. Yes, it is part of us, but it is foreign. With all due respect to our Indian heritage, being “Indian” is certainly as foreign as the American influence. The Indian/ Sri Vijayan empire was every bit an invader as the Spanish Empire was. To put it succinctly, being “pure” Filipino can only be claimed by the Aeta, the original inhabitants. Even the vaunted Austronesian can’t hack it, Austronesians are brown invaders, without a doubt.

Whilst it is true that there had been a certain extent of Hindu/ Indian/ Sanskrit/ Sri Vijaya influence, by no means does Hindu influence form the vast majority of Filipino culture as it is today. From my point of view, I exercise culture by ratio and proportion to the amount it is contained in the present times. Therefore roughly, I would say offhand that Filipino culture is majority Hispanic, 2nd Native Animist/ Ancestor worship, 3rd is the American influence, 4th is the Chinese influence, 5th is Malay/Indon influence, 6th is the Hindu influence. That is how I would exercise present day Filipino culture – I accept all the foreign influences because that is what the Filipino is. Our culture is not homogeneous at all – unlike our other neighbours. We do not forget any influence but simultaneously we do not streeetch a minority culture to overshadow all the others in the hierarchy. That is what the Maharlika movement is exactly doing.

This thread is just as ridiculous as the other one which wants a change of capitals. IMHO, as long as the country Las Filipinas exists, there is only one capital for it - Manila. As long as Manila is the capital, then the proper country name is Las Filipinas. That's about the long and short of it. :lol:
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Mercato

October 1st, 2008, 08:16 AM

^^ Because some forumers wants it resurrected from the grave. Anyway, Halloween or Piesta Minatay/All Saints Day is nearby. :lol: :lol: :D Ahhh, yes. But first, Dia de la Hispanidad is on Oct 12. Then comes Dia de los todos los Santos... :D
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Sleepwalker

October 1st, 2008, 10:13 AM

Eww... caspa (dandruff) is a Spanish word. Then its not exotic! (Sarcasm) This goes with those Filipinos who try to exclude anything foreign and yet they don't know that they are very much destroying what they are!

I pretty much understand what Caspa and Cogmo means...It was just purely for pun...este for fun...Relax, dude...Hehehehehhehe

stanleymalls

October 1st, 2008, 10:57 AM

Ultima.

Pwede? The Republic of Ultima?

Wala lang.... kasi pansin ko, we have the best of both worlds.

ivanc

October 3rd, 2008, 03:12 AM

my two cents:

not cebu.. please... sorry, but we're better off without the mendiola riots, etc.. no offense to manila people

glenntoy15

October 3rd, 2008, 03:24 AM

di rin davao. peace na d2. kng dito maging kapital. rally na lang araw2x

achernar

October 3rd, 2008, 03:39 AM

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc350/achernar_08/philippineregionsalternative.png
ang wish ko sana talaga ay maging federal ang philippines with my proposed 46 states... divided into 8 regions...

mAiNsTrEaMhunter

October 3rd, 2008, 03:40 AM

di rin davao. peace na d2. kng dito maging kapital. rally na lang araw2x

very well true...:righton::righton:

achernar

October 3rd, 2008, 03:41 AM

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc350/achernar_08/invertedcolors.png
at eto ang ang city-by-city boundaries ng each state... gawa ko po yan... marami akong parangap para sa philippines

achernar

October 3rd, 2008, 03:47 AM

mAiNsTrEaMhunter

October 3rd, 2008, 03:51 AM

achernar

October 3rd, 2008, 04:02 AM

^^good idea bai pero IMHO, kc naa pud possibility, esp the island provinces under one region na if the state capital is based on a particular island and the proposed state covers other surrounding island provinces, i think its difficult bai. e.g. region 7 covers the islands of cebu, bohol, siquijor and the eastern portion of negros island (Neg. Or.), if you make them one state, i guess if im from bohol, id rather make my island a state so as not to transact biz in cebu to cut travel expenses. I guess its better if the island provinces be made states and luzon and mindanao could have states made up of provinces coz its easier for them because these places are intact not like the visayas that is fragmented and some parts of the country, like camiguin, dinagat, palawan, mindoro, batanes, marinduque, masbate, tawi-tawi, basilan, sulu, etc.

no there would be 46 individual states... or i like the term "prefecture" as used by japan... and the philippines would be divided to at least 8 regions... with a at least 5 prefectures in each regions

REGION 1 - Maritime Luzon
REGION 2 - Central Luzon
REGION 3 - Mega Manila
REGION 4 - Southern Luzon
REGION 5 - Western Visayas
REGION 6 - Eastern Visayas
REGION 7 - Eastern Mindanao
REGION 8 - Pacific Mindanao

all those smaller and useless provinces would be dissolved like biliran, dinagat islands, camiguin...etc...

REGION 1 prefectures - ILOCOS, LA UNION, ISABELA, CAGAYAN, NUEVA VIZCAYA, KALINGA
REGION 2 prefectures - PANGASINAN, TARLAC, NUEVA ECIJA, ZAMBALES, PAMPANGA etc...

achernar

October 3rd, 2008, 04:07 AM

and on election nga eh... each prefecture would have electoral votes just like the u.s. system... according to the number of congressional districts plus 2 senators per prefecture...
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Sleepwalker

October 3rd, 2008, 05:37 AM

Why move the capital? Will it really solve our current problems?

What the government needs to do is to push for federalism....Decentralization is the key.

kiretoce

October 3rd, 2008, 06:43 AM

^^ Hmm....do I detect symptoms of a megalomaniac in the making here? :sly:

:lol: :jk: :nocrook:

mAiNsTrEaMhunter

October 3rd, 2008, 07:25 AM

^^^:lol::lol::lol::lol:

i dont think its a symptom of a mental illness bec. it is possible. i guess you also have to be megalomaniac sometimes so you can be called a HUMAN!:ohno:

mAiNsTrEaMhunter

October 3rd, 2008, 07:55 AM

no there would be 46 individual states... or i like the term "prefecture" as used by japan... and the philippines would be divided to at least 8 regions... with a at least 5 prefectures in each regions

REGION 1 - Maritime Luzon
REGION 2 - Central Luzon
REGION 3 - Mega Manila
REGION 4 - Southern Luzon
REGION 5 - Western Visayas
REGION 6 - Eastern Visayas
REGION 7 - Eastern Mindanao
REGION 8 - Pacific Mindanao

all those smaller and useless provinces would be dissolved like biliran, dinagat islands, camiguin...etc...

REGION 1 prefectures - ILOCOS, LA UNION, ISABELA, CAGAYAN, NUEVA VIZCAYA, KALINGA
REGION 2 prefectures - PANGASINAN, TARLAC, NUEVA ECIJA, ZAMBALES, PAMPANGA etc...

IMHO, regions are just making it complicated and also the prefectures thingy... and i presume there will always be the provinces plus the perfectures and the regions...i guess there's a lot of bureaucracy in the set-up... IMO, its a save of money if you just rename regions to states and island provinces also states...

IMO, in my counting we have 34 states.

my proposed STATES ARE:lol::lol::lol:

STATE OF ILOCANDIA- Ilocos Norte, Ilocos Sur, La Union, Pangasinan

STATE OF BATANES

STATE OF CORDILLERA- Apayao, Ifugao, Kalinga, Abra, Mt. Province, Benguet

STATE OF CAGAYAN VALLEY- Cagayan, Isabela, Nueva Vizcaya, Quirino

STATE OF CENTRAL LUZON- Aurora, Nueva Ecija, Tarlac, Pampanga, Zambales, Bataan, Bulacan

MANILA FEDERAL ADMINISTRATIVE STATE

STATE OF SOUTHERN LUZON- Quezon, Rizal, Laguna, Cavite, Batangas

STATE OF BICOLANDIA- Camarines Norte, Camarines Sur, Albay, Sorsogon

STATE OF CATANDUANES

STATE OF MASBATE

STATE OF ROMBLON

STATE OF MARINDUQUE

STATE OF MINDORO- Mindoro Occidental, Mindoro Oriental

STATE OF PALAWAN

STATE OF PANAY- Iloilo, Capiz, Aklan, Antique

STATE OF GUIMARAS

STATE OF NEGROS- Negros Occidental, Negros Oriental

STATE OF CEBU

STATE OF SIQUIJOR

STATE OF BOHOL

STATE OF LEYTE- Southern Leyte, Leyte

STATE OF BILIRAN

STATE OF SAMAR- Samar, Northern Samar, Eastern Samar

STATE OF DINAGAT

STATE OF CAMIGUIN

STATE OF CARAGA- Surigao del Norte, Surigao del Sur, Agusan del Norte, Agusan del Sur

STATE OF DAVAO- Davao, Davao del Sur, Compostela Valley, Davao Oriental

STATE OF SOUTHERN MINDANAO (SOCCSKSARGEN)- South Cotabato, Sarangani, Cotabato, Sultan Kudarat

STATE OF MOROLANDIA- Maguindanao, Shariff Kabunsuan, Lanao del Sur

STATE OF NORTHERN MINDANAO- Bukidnon, Misamis Occidental, Misamis Oriental, Lanao del Norte

STATE OF ZAMBOANGA- Zamboanga del Norte, Zamboanga Sibugay, Zamboanga del Sur

STATE OF BASILAN

STATE OF SULU

STATE OF TAWI-TAWI

i don't think the people in these small island provinces are useless because the mere fact that they were made provinces is because they want to separate from a bigger province which can't govern them because of their geographic location. but even if how great these proposals are they are still subject to the peoples plebiscite.
:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

achernar

October 3rd, 2008, 09:12 AM

^^ Hmm....do I detect symptoms of a megalomaniac in the making here? :sly:

:lol: :jk: :nocrook:

ang sama mo naman... yun nga lang ang wish ko para sa pinas, you don't have to be so degrading >(

regjeex

October 4th, 2008, 02:31 PM

Aaaaa.. puro state nalang yan... dapat nga naging state nalang tayo ng US... at maganda pa sana ang quality of life... lahat nalang pinag aawayan ng mga politics natin.. puro mga matatalino. lalo na yang si lacson puro kasiraan nalng ang ginagawa imbes na fofocus sana sa economic and peace in Mindanao anong nangyari ngaun... bangayan... sana gyerahin na yang senado, congress at malacanang mga NPA at MILF para matudas lahat... pera lang naman ang habol ng mga lintik na yan... pag uwi magdala ako ng Iraqi terrorist... hehehehehe nyetaaaaaa....puro nalang maynila ang asenso.. dpat sa mindanao naman...

IMHO, regions are just making it complicated and also the prefectures thingy... and i presume there will always be the provinces plus the perfectures and the regions...i guess there's a lot of bureaucracy in the set-up... IMO, its a save of money if you just rename regions to states and island provinces also states...

IMO, in my counting we have 34 states.

my proposed STATES ARE:lol::lol::lol:

STATE OF ILOCANDIA- Ilocos Norte, Ilocos Sur, La Union, Pangasinan

STATE OF BATANES

STATE OF CORDILLERA- Apayao, Ifugao, Kalinga, Abra, Mt. Province, Benguet

STATE OF CAGAYAN VALLEY- Cagayan, Isabela, Nueva Vizcaya, Quirino

STATE OF CENTRAL LUZON- Aurora, Nueva Ecija, Tarlac, Pampanga, Zambales, Bataan, Bulacan

MANILA FEDERAL ADMINISTRATIVE STATE

STATE OF SOUTHERN LUZON- Quezon, Rizal, Laguna, Cavite, Batangas

STATE OF BICOLANDIA- Camarines Norte, Camarines Sur, Albay, Sorsogon

STATE OF CATANDUANES

STATE OF MASBATE

STATE OF ROMBLON

STATE OF MARINDUQUE

STATE OF MINDORO- Mindoro Occidental, Mindoro Oriental

STATE OF PALAWAN

STATE OF PANAY- Iloilo, Capiz, Aklan, Antique

STATE OF GUIMARAS

STATE OF NEGROS- Negros Occidental, Negros Oriental

STATE OF CEBU

STATE OF SIQUIJOR

STATE OF BOHOL

STATE OF LEYTE- Southern Leyte, Leyte

STATE OF BILIRAN

STATE OF SAMAR- Samar, Northern Samar, Eastern Samar

STATE OF DINAGAT

STATE OF CAMIGUIN

STATE OF CARAGA- Surigao del Norte, Surigao del Sur, Agusan del Norte, Agusan del Sur

STATE OF DAVAO- Davao, Davao del Sur, Compostela Valley, Davao Oriental

STATE OF SOUTHERN MINDANAO (SOCCSKSARGEN)- South Cotabato, Sarangani, Cotabato, Sultan Kudarat

STATE OF MOROLANDIA- Maguindanao, Shariff Kabunsuan, Lanao del Sur

STATE OF NORTHERN MINDANAO- Bukidnon, Misamis Occidental, Misamis Oriental, Lanao del Norte

STATE OF ZAMBOANGA- Zamboanga del Norte, Zamboanga Sibugay, Zamboanga del Sur

STATE OF BASILAN

STATE OF SULU

STATE OF TAWI-TAWI

i don't think the people in these small island provinces are useless because the mere fact that they were made provinces is because they want to separate from a bigger province which can't govern them because of their geographic location. but even if how great these proposals are they are still subject to the peoples plebiscite.
:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

red_jasper

October 4th, 2008, 06:27 PM

Sunday, October 05, 2008
Davao, San Juan cities ink sisterhood pact (http://www.sunstar.com.ph/static/dav/2008/10/05/news/davao.san.juan.cities.ink.sisterhood.pact.html)

DAVAO City Mayor Rodrigo Duterte, in behalf of Davao City, signed the first sisterhood pact the city has entered into with another Philippine city in the last 20 years.

Davao's last sister-city pact, which was with Quezon City, was signed during the time of late Mayor Elias B. Lopez.

The sisterhood agreement was signed in front of the 60-man delegation from San Juan City led Mayor Joseph Victor "JV" Ejercito and Davao City officials in a luncheon at Harana Saturday.

Duterte, in his speech, thanked Ejercito and his party for being "brave enough" to visit Davao and pursue relations with the city even if others have shied away due to negative impressions and reports brought about by the conflict in Central Mindanao.

Ejercito, in response, called the mayor a "legend".

"It is not just the beauty of Davao that has attracted us but it is the discipline and the way it is run by Mayor Duterte," Ejercito said.

"Sana walang mangyari sa San Juan ngayon kasi nandito kaming lahat," he joked.

With Ejercito were his vice-mayor, members of the San Juan City Council and all the department head of the local government offices.

The group was also in Davao for its annual planning session held at the Pearl Farm Beach Resort.

"We hope to learn a lot from Davao in terms of policies as well as share what we call our "economic miracle" in San Juan to increase the income of Davao," Ejercito said.

He said San Juan only had 300 million in annual income but the City Government was able to turn it around, and now the city is earning P1 billion per year.

"Pareha lang tayong hindi umaasa sa National Government. Wala tayong nakukuha dun. We have to help our cities," Ejercito said.

Councilor Rachel Zozobrado, chair of the committee on international relations under which the development of sisterhood pacts fall, said that she is pursuing the creation of a technical working group that would craft policies and projects beneficial for the sister cities.

"Gina-compile na ni nato tanang data para makita gyud nato nga naa ni resulta atong pakipag-partner sa ubang city," Zozobrado said.

mAiNsTrEaMhunter

October 5th, 2008, 07:40 AM

^^ ako gani kung pwede lang pareha ta sa puerto rico karon... pero bai laen napud tanawn ang US flag if m.join ta sa union kay dili na proportion ang stars...:lol::lol::lol:

dapat unta mas kita pay mahimong state 50th state contra hawaii kay mas una ta n.colonize sa mga americans...murag ang hawaii n.join sa union after WWII man cguro...not so sure., naa gyud ta to possibility pero bai kahbaw naka aning mga pilipino sa ancient times na di man gyud palupig...saonz taas man ug garbo..murag napulan na sila mao they thought they can better manage if we could be independent...tu.a ra!!!!:lol::ohno::lol::ohno::lol::ohno::lol:

regjeex

October 5th, 2008, 12:51 PM

Mao lagi bai... mao nga tagaan nako ug TUHEE ang mga politico nga sobraan ra ka bright... SMART VSS. Pede man japon butangan og star ang red stripe nalang.. hehehe kay dili naman maigo didto sa color blue. Bright ra kaayo si Manuel Quezon mao nga Independence day daun sila aron ingnon... Kani pod atong mga nag dumala sa DFA mga gipang KU*ERAAAA... Dagko baya income diri sa IRAQ bai daku pas sahod ni Gloria.. ila daun gi ban kay soya sila... mao ra man japon cge silang implement sa BAN pero ang mga pinoy lusot japon... kwarta kwarta ra japon.. talamak kaajo diha sa NAIA mga nawog kwarta. Dapat ila ng gi lift ang ban kay aron mo daku ug samot ang panud lanan sa PINAS. mas gyera pa sa Mindanao ke sa IRAQ. Gapaka uwaw lang sila diha... walay pili diha sa Malacanang pati sa mga congress og senado... mga nawog kwarta...may ra untag mabasahan nila ning forum aron mga igo sila. Diha ra permi ang asenso sa manila ilaha nalng tanan aron ma tughan sila.. hehehe... mayra unta og dili na sustentohan og bugas nga gikan sa Mindanao ang manila aron magut man sila.. hehehe SUKO NA KO KAAYO.. hehehe

^^ ako gani kung pwede lang pareha ta sa puerto rico karon... pero bai laen napud tanawn ang US flag if m.join ta sa union kay dili na proportion ang stars...:lol::lol::lol:

dapat unta mas kita pay mahimong state 50th state contra hawaii kay mas una ta n.colonize sa mga americans...murag ang hawaii n.join sa union after WWII man cguro...not so sure., naa gyud ta to possibility pero bai kahbaw naka aning mga pilipino sa ancient times na di man gyud palupig...saonz taas man ug garbo..murag napulan na sila mao they thought they can better manage if we could be independent...tu.a ra!!!!:lol::ohno::lol::ohno::lol::ohno::lol:

regjeex

October 5th, 2008, 12:56 PM

cge inyuha nalang tanang sister... karon lang ko kabalo nga ang sister city ng Butuan is Bacolod.. usa ra jud intawon ngano man? hehehe basin daghan og brother ang Butuan.. hehehehehe can sino man sa inyo ang nakakaalam kung anong city pa ang sister ng Butuan... mga sister....

i did this sister city thing for metro manila less than a month ago. it may not be very accurate or complete/up to date. of course thank you wikipedia.

Antipolo, Rizal, Philippines (Marikina)
Bacolod, Negros Occidental, Philippines (Marikina, Parañaque)
Bangkok, Thailand (Manila)
Beijing, China (Manila)
Borongan, Eastern Samar, Philippines (Makati)
Brampton, Canada (Marikina)
Bucheon, South Korea (Valenzuela)
Busan, South Korea (Manila)
Calamba, Laguna, Philippines (Caloocan)
Caracas, Venezuela (Quezon City)
Cartagena, Colombia (Manila)
Cebu City, Cebu, Philippines (Marikina)
Chiba, Japan (Quezon City)
Cluj-Napoca, Romania (Makati)
Daly City, California, USA (Quezon City)
Davao City, Davao del Sur, Philippines (Marikina)
Dubai, UAE (Mandaluyong)
General Santos, South Cotabato, Philippines (Marikina, Quezon City)
Guangzhou, China (Manila)
Haifa, Israel (Manila)
Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam (Manila)
Iloilo City, Iloilo (Makati, Quezon City)
Incheon, South Korea (Manila)
Kenosha, Wisconsin, USA (Quezon City)
Las Piñas, Metro Manila, Philippines (Parañaque)
Liuzhou, China (Muntinlupa)
Los Angeles, California, USA (Makati)
Madrid, Spain (Manila)
Marikina, Metro Manila, Philippines (Muntinlupa, Pasig, Quezon City)
Masbate, Masbate, Philippines (Marikina)
Maui County, Hawaii, USA (Manila)
Montreal, Canada (Manila)
Moscow, Russia (Manila)
Muntinlupa, Metro Manila, Philippines (Marikina)
New Delhi, India (Manila)
New Westminster, Canada (Quezon City)
Osaka, Japan (Manila)
Panama City, Panama (Manila)
Parañaque, Metro Manila, Philippines (Las Piñas)
Pasig, Metro Manila, Philippines (Marikina)
Piteşti, Romania (Muntinlupa)
Puerto Princesa, Palawan, Philippines (Marikina)
Ramapo, New York, USA (Makati)
Quezon City, Metro Manila, Philippines (Marikina)
Sacramento, California, USA (Manila)
Salt Lake City, Utah, USA (Quezon City)
San Francisco, California, USA (Manila)
Santa Barbara, California, Philippines (San Juan)
Shanghai, China (Manila)
Silay, Negros Occidental, Philippines (Mandaluyong)
Singapore (Marikina)
Staffanstorp, Sweden (Muntinlupa)
Taipei, Taiwan (Manila, Quezon City)
Takasaki, Japan (Muntinlupa)
Tangub, Misamis Occidental, Philippines (Parañaque)
Union City, California, USA (Pasay)
Vladivostok, Russia (Makati)
Winnipeg, Canada (Manila)
Yokohama, Japan (Manila)

just some notes:
Caloocan, Malabon, Navotas, Pateros and Taguig do not have sister cities.
Marikina is the Metro Manila city with the most (3) sister cities within Metro Manila.
Philippine cities Iloilo City, Bacolod and General Santos have (2) Metro Manila sister cities.
Taipei in Taiwan is the international city with most (2) Metro Manila sister cities.
USA has 9 cities tied up to a sister city in Metro Manila. Canada, China and Japan have 4. South Korea has 3.
The US State with most (6) Metro Manila sister cities is California. Several non Metro Manila Philippine cities are also linked to California cities.
Excluding themselves, Metro Manila cities have 12 other sister cities in the Philippines. Sister municipalities are not included.
Marikina is the only Metro Manila city with sister cities from the other 2 big metro areas in the Philippines - Metro Cebu (Cebu City) and Metro Davao (Davao).
It has also established sisterhood with other major cities in the Philippines.
Aside from Manila (who’s a sister to HCMC and Bangkok), Only Marikina has an ASEAN (and a capital) sister city (Singapore).

:cheers:

vince_rilian

October 5th, 2008, 02:08 PM

hirolionheart

October 5th, 2008, 02:20 PM

Pipol, i dunno if any of you have already seen this on the web...
http://www.nenepimentel.org/speeches/Presentation2%20LGC%20Income%20Req.pdf

interesting figures seen here, 2004 to 2006 figures pa yan.... rami pala pending application for conversion into component cities....

Yup, nakita ko na ito. Sobrang dami na palang towns sa Pilipinas ang qualified na to be a city, lalo pa siguro ngayong 2008 (pero depende kung tumaas na ang standards for conversion ngayon), hehehe^_^
Pero hindi ito basta-basta, marami pang pinagdadaanang proseso ang conversion into component cities...

mAiNsTrEaMhunter

October 6th, 2008, 04:47 AM

Mao lagi bai... mao nga tagaan nako ug TUHEE ang mga politico nga sobraan ra ka bright... SMART VSS. Pede man japon butangan og star ang red stripe nalang.. hehehe kay dili naman maigo didto sa color blue. Bright ra kaayo si Manuel Quezon mao nga Independence day daun sila aron ingnon... Kani pod atong mga nag dumala sa DFA mga gipang KU*ERAAAA... Dagko baya income diri sa IRAQ bai daku pas sahod ni Gloria.. ila daun gi ban kay soya sila... mao ra man japon cge silang implement sa BAN pero ang mga pinoy lusot japon... kwarta kwarta ra japon.. talamak kaajo diha sa NAIA mga nawog kwarta. Dapat ila ng gi lift ang ban kay aron mo daku ug samot ang panud lanan sa PINAS. mas gyera pa sa Mindanao ke sa IRAQ. Gapaka uwaw lang sila diha... walay pili diha sa Malacanang pati sa mga congress og senado... mga nawog kwarta...may ra untag mabasahan nila ning forum aron mga igo sila. Diha ra permi ang asenso sa manila ilaha nalng tanan aron ma tughan sila.. hehehe... mayra unta og dili na sustentohan og bugas nga gikan sa Mindanao ang manila aron magut man sila.. hehehe SUKO NA KO KAAYO.. hehehe

btw bai...., relax lng dha pero cge lng ipagawas lng imong mga kahiubos sa gobierno kay ana mn gyud na sila...OTHERS!!!!!! btw... cge lng basta kita diri sa provincias maningkamot na dili magsalig sa manila kay paet kaau bai.... mao na maau ra pud na ang cebu richness kaau na wa gyud magsalig sa manila kay basin manila ray adunahan sa pinas...ep ep ep... timani....read between the lines..... R E P U B L I C OF C E B U!!!!!!!!:lol::lol::lol:

zoroethgenre_003

October 6th, 2008, 06:11 AM

^^it is suggestive of the fact that its so easy to become a city based on the present requisites..

Animo

October 6th, 2008, 05:46 PM

Monday, October 06, 2008 08:02:13 PM (http://www.mindanaoexaminer.com/news.php?news_id=20081006070213)

The U.S. Institute of Peace has experts on virtually every major conflict in the world today, from Afghanistan to Zimbabwe. As part of a new series, USIP will publish interviews with our experts to discuss the background and stakes for the United States of recent developments in these conflict zones.

Philippines Agreement in Question Posted: September 18, 2008.

In the Philippines, the government of President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo recently reached an agreement with the Moro Islamic Liberation Front (MILF) to end decades of conflict by granting self-determination and self-governance to the Moro minority in Moro dominated parts of the southern island of Mindanao. Non-Moro opponents of the concessions challenged the agreement in the Supreme Court. Violence erupted, as some MILF units rampaged and the Armed Forces of the Philippines (AFP) struck back. Negotiations to settle the ethnic conflict have ceased.

From 2003 to 2007, Eugene Martin was executive director of USIP’s Philippine Facilitation Project, which aimed to further the peace process between the government and the MILF. A retired senior Foreign Service officer, Martin served twice in the Philippines, as deputy chief of mission in 1996–99 and as a political military officer in 1987–90. He now is the director of the Washington Office of Johns Hopkins University’s Hopkins-Nanjing Center for Chinese and American Studies.

Martin’s work on the Philippine reconciliation project was summarized in a USIP Special Report (February 2008) and highlighted in a recent National Journal article about USIP.

Who are the parties in the conflict? How did it begin?

Muslim missionaries and traders brought Islam to the islands of Southeast Asia in the fourteenth century and converted indigenous tribes. When the Spanish colonized the Philippines, they were unable to conquer and convert the Islamized sultanates in the southern islands. After the Spanish American War of 1898, the U.S. purchased the Philippines, including the Moro sultanates, from the Spanish. The Moros resisted U.S. colonial authority and were subdued by the U.S. Army. Some Moro historians assert that they were incorporated into the Philippine nation by U.S. colonial authorities.

When the U.S. granted the Philippine Islands autonomy under a commonwealth in 1935 and full independence in 1946, the Moros protested strongly against inclusion but were disregarded. They attempted unsuccessfully to preserve their ancestral lands and way of life through political and democratic means in the face of massive migration by non-Moros from northern islands. As the settlers dominated the land and political power, the Moros—who now constitute about five percent of the region’s population—rebelled against the central government in an attempt to reassert their historical independence.

Who are the “Moros”?

The Spanish called Islamized tribes they encountered in the Philippine islands “Moros” —their name for the Muslims of North Africa, who had ruled Peninsular Spain in previous centuries. Initially a pejorative term, it began to be used as a common identifier for diverse Islamized ethno-linguistic groups in the southern Philippines. In recent years, the term “Bangsamoro” (meaning Moro nation) has gained currency among both the Bangsamoro themselves and the broader Filipino population.
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Describe the different parties in the Philippines' insurgent movements—MILF, Moro National Liberation Front (MNLF), Abu Sayyaf Group (ASG), Jemaah Islamiyah, etc.? What are their stances?

There are important distinctions among the insurgent movements, the Moro political factions and the terrorist organizations that claim, at times, to fight for a political or even a putatively religious cause.

The MILF and MNLF historically have been armed insurgent movements that have sought to assert and to defend their claims to ancestral homelands from settlers who have altered the demographic balance and have come to control political and economic power, marginalizing the impoverished Moros. The MNLF, however, has long since changed into a legitimate political party and authority. The MNLF was founded in the late 1960s by Nur Misuari, a leftist student radical at Manila’s University of the Philippines. The impetus for the founding of the MNLF included both the Marcos government’s imposition of martial law (1972-81) and attacks on Muslim communities by vigilante groups of settlers. Its ideology, based upon leftist national liberation models, advocated independence for Moro areas. The MNLF concluded a peace agreement with the government of President Ramos in 1996 that allowed the MNLF to govern the Autonomous Region of Muslim Mindanao (ARMM).

MNLF Vice Chairman Salamat Hashiim splintered from the MNLF in the early 1980s to found the Moro Islamic Liberation Front (MILF) based on Islamic religious principles, as distinct from the MNLF’s more traditional secular leftist-nationalist ideology. The MILF continued its rebellion after the MNLF-government of the Philippines (GRP) peace agreement, based on autonomy within Philippines national sovereignty, took effect. Hashiim continued to advocate outright independence.

The Abu Sayyaf Group (ASG) is a small group of “kidnap-for-ransom” criminals who adopted extremist Islamic trappings to gain publicity. The ASG is believed to have material and ideological support from al-Qaeda elements and Jemaah Islamiyah (JI) members in Indonesia. The JI is an Indonesian extremist organization that has employed terror tactics. Its members previously trained in MILF training camps in Mindanao.

The U.S. designated the ASG a terrorist organization in 2002 after it kidnapped twenty people, including three American citizens. One American was executed and another, missionary Martin Burnham, died during a Philippine military rescue attempt.

Despite decimation by the Armed Forces of the Philippines, with training and intelligence support from U.S. forces, ASG continues to operate in remote areas of the islands of Sulu and Basilan.

Another major insurgent group in the Philippines is the National Democratic Front (NDF) of the Philippine Communist Party. The NDF has violently opposed the government since the end of World War II. The NDF and MILF have an understanding to operate in different areas. They are believed to cooperate occasionally despite fundamentally conflicting ideologies and objectives.
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Why have these groups found haven in the southern Philippines?

Finding themselves unable to advance their objectives by political means, many Moros, including the MNLF, MILF, and terrorist offshoots such as the ASG, accepted whatever foreign assistance they could find. After the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan ended, many of the Moro mujahidin fighters who had fought in that country returned home and offered their services to oppose Philippine military operations in Mindanao. These fighters established training camps in MNLF and MILF controlled areas. As early support from countries such as Malaysia and Libya ended, the MILF agreed to train JI and al-Qaeda fighters in return for financial support and arms. The camps also offered JI and other terrorist elements a sanctuary in which to rest and hide. Many of the fighters married and settled in Moro areas, blending into the population.

What were the key components of the peace agreement between the Macapagal Arroyo government and the MILF?

USIP had no direct access to the draft agreement. From Filipino media reports, however, it appears that the latest Memorandum of Agreement (MOA) focused on “ancestral domain.” It is the last of three components of a comprehensive agreement to end the long conflict. The other two—security and economic development—were concluded several years ago. The MOA gives the MILF the right of self-governance over a designated area of the island of Mindanao. This includes establishing what is termed the “Bangsamoro Juridical Entity” (BJE) that would have the authority to structure the area’s governing institutions, pass local laws, have control over natural and marine resources and establish trade and cultural relations with foreign nations and entities. The geographical extent of the BJE reportedly would include the existing Autonomous Region of Muslim Mindanao and additional villages in neighboring provinces.
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Why is the Philippine Supreme Court considering halting a peace agreement with the government that would include an expanded Muslim autonomous zone?

Before the Memorandum of Agreement (MOA) could be signed in early August, MOA opponents persuaded the Supreme Court to issue a Temporary Restraining Order (TRO) barring the government from signing the agreement until the court had the opportunity to hear arguments for and against the agreement. The suit against the MOA argued that it was unconstitutional to grant a specific group (the Moros or the MILF) separate status from other Filipinos or to allow non-Moro citizens to be forced to live under the BJE without their consent. The plaintiffs argued that any such devolution of governance authority had to be legislated by the Congress within the parameters of the constitution.
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What does this mean for Filipino politics? Who are the Christian groups that oppose the accord and petitioned the Supreme Court?

he Court’s TRO on the MOA and the government’s subsequent decision to withdraw the MOA, dissolve the peace panel and refuse to negotiate with armed groups (such as the MILF) appear to leave few alternatives to resolve the conflict through lawful, peaceful, political means. Each side—the Christian majority and the Muslim minority—fears that the other now is threatening their core interests and rights, not least their respective religious identities, but also their property interests.

The plaintiffs were mainly Christian politicians in Mindanao and their supporters or allies in Congress. Many of them had long opposed any compromise with the Moros, whether armed groups or political movements. Most of the plaintiffs were descendents of early Christian settlers in Mindanao.
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What happens now? Can a peace agreement be salvaged?

In the short term, there appears to be little chance that the two principal parties can or will restart the peace process, at least during the last year and a half of the Arroyo administration. The GRP has announced it will not resume negotiations with armed groups, focusing instead on working with Moro communities and civil society to bring peace to Mindanao. The Moro perspective is that this attempt to ignore and marginalize the MILF will result in the traditional power relationship with the GRP in a dominant position.

Since the GRP has not been able to resolve the conflict over the past 40 years through either political or militarily means, renewed violence appears as likely as ever. The Moros are well aware of the futility of negotiation under current circumstances. Some Moros may decide that violence, including terror tactics in Manila and other urban areas outside Muslim Mindanao are the only way to get the attention of the Filipino majority. Such desperate measures would only further alienate the fragile constituencies on both sides for any peace deal.

A return to military operations and violence might even kindle more active cooperation between the diverse insurgent groups and terrorist elements. The MNLF, which has been dissatisfied with the government’s adherence to its commitments under the 1996 agreement, could join the MILF in fighting the AFP. Both Moro organizations could increase cooperation with the NDF in opposing government actions. Although the MILF has distanced itself from the ASG, if hard pressed by the AFP, it could increase cooperation.

It is unlikely the Arroyo administration has the capability or political support to revive the discarded MOA even if it desired. The lack of public information and education on the causes of the conflict, the issues under negotiation and options for settlement results in opponents dominating and shaping the debate.

It will be difficult for the Arroyo administration to resume talks for the remainder of her term (through the presidential elections in May 2010) or for presidential candidates to support resumption. It will likely be three to five years before the political climate will permit new talks, if then. In the interim, more violence, including in Manila, is a possibility.
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Did the prospective MOA connote a step to Moro independence and the breakup of the Philippines?

By agreeing to negotiate with the GRP, the MILF publicly relinquished their goal of independence in return for genuine self-determination and the right to govern themselves within the Philippine nation state. The last-minute rejection of the MOA and apparent consequent end of the negotiations regarding ancestral domain now raises the danger of a return to violent conflict.
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What are the implications for regional politics?

If the conflict in Mindanao returns to violence, terrorist groups will likely exploit the situation to infiltrate and destabilize the Philippines. Although Moro interests and objectives are not the same as terrorist groups such as ASG, al-Qaeda or JI, the MILF may decide at least to tolerate their presence and activities. This would allow the extremists to pose as advocates for the rights of the Bangsamoro, even as they perpetrate violent acts throughout the Philippines that undermine the Moros’ claims for their ancestral rights.
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What are the implications for U.S. policy? Will the U.S. want to re-open a base in the country?

Violence and instability in the Philippines will hurt the political, economic and strategic interests of everyone—the Moros, the broader Filipino nation, and the region. Another spate of violence would harm the U.S. stake in the stability and prosperity of the Philippines and its neighbors. Conceivably, the U.S. might be persuaded by the GRP or AFP to treat the MILF as terrorists and participate in or at least support counterinsurgency operations against them. Alternatively, the U.S. theoretically could use try to use political or economic leverage to press the government to resume peace talks, notwithstanding the GRP’s domestic political equities. Neither outcome is likely to accomplish the intended objectives. Therefore the U.S. is unlikely to pursue either course under current circumstances.

In particular, since the U.S. closed its bases in the Philippines at the end of the Cold War in the early 1990s, it has not sought to re-establish a permanent military presence in any part of that country. Deployments of limited numbers of U.S. forces to the Philippines since 2002 have been on a strictly temporary basis, with the purpose of training and equipping the AFP.

Nonetheless, various Filipino political factions, including some Moros, have presumed that the U.S. remains interested in establishing military bases in the Philippines, and some Moros have suggested that U.S. help in resolving the conflict could set the stage for the establishment of a U.S. military base there. Regardless of whether various Filipinos find such a prospect abhorrent or desirable, it is far-fetched.
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What was USIP’s role in the facilitation process?

Between 2003 and 2007, the Institute was engaged in facilitating the peace process between the GRP and MILF. USIP became involved at the request of the U.S. State Department and with Congressional funding after both the GRP and the MILF requested U.S. assistance to end the long conflict between the government and the Islamized Moro minority.

USIP worked to assist both parties to address the underlying causes of the conflict—loss of traditional lands as well as economic and political marginalization of the Moros caused by a century of migration by non-Moro peoples from northern islands.

As there is little public understanding among the non-Moro Filipino population of the conflict’s causes or sympathy for Moro grievances, USIP sponsored programs to highlight these issues. Programs included lectures and discussions in universities, radio dramas, distribution to schools of a video on the history of the Moros and origins of the conflict, media seminars, teacher training workshops, dialogues with religious leaders and conflict management training for students, military officers and civil society leaders. Practitioners and academic experts from countries that had gone through similar conflicts were introduced to GRP and MILF representatives to share experiences and convey lessons learned. A series of workshops were held to bridge intra-Moro rivalries and tensions that complicate GRP efforts to negotiate an agreement satisfactory to all Moros.

After eleven years of talks, the two sides reached an agreement on the ancestral domain issue.

In the subsequent public discussion of the MOA, some Filipinos accused USIP of secretly aiding—if not dictating—the terms of the agreement. Public focus has been on USIP’s February 2008 Special Report, written at the close of the Institute’s project. In fact, USIP did not participate in the talks between the GRP and MILF, which were hosted and staffed by the Malaysian government. While USIP representatives met unofficially with negotiators on both sides and offered technical advice based upon commonly accepted conflict resolution experiences, the formulation of the MOA was determined only by the GRP and MILF panelists.

While USIP had Congressional funding for its Philippine project and advised the State Department and the U.S. Embassy in Manila of its activities, Institute personnel operated apart from U.S. government officials in the Philippines. The Institute’s independent status allowed it to explore alternative means of resolving the conflict while still respecting official policies and relationships with the Philippine government.
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How can USIP help in this effort down the road?

Complying with the wishes of both the GRP and MILF, recognizing the effective mediator role played by the government of Malaysia, and lacking fresh U.S. government funding since 2007, USIP continues merely to follow the conflict at a respectful distance. Nonetheless, the Institute remains ready to contribute its expertise in conflict management and resolution, drawn from numerous case studies worldwide.

USIP is an independent, non-partisan institution dedicated to the management, mitigation and resolution of conflicts around the world. The Institute does not purport to speak for U.S. government policies or analyses, but we do share the view that resolution of this longstanding conflict would greatly advance the interests of the Moros and all Filipinos, neighboring states and the U.S. (smallwarsjournal.com / The views expressed here are not necessarily those of USIP, which does not advocate specific policy positions.)

Animo

October 6th, 2008, 05:48 PM

By Astrid S. Tuminez | 10/06/2008 5:26 PM (http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/special-report/10/06/08/getting-past-conflict-revisiting-moa-ancestral-domain)

Renewed bloodshed, evacuation, and human suffering have once again marred Mindanao’s landscape since the breakdown of the peace process between the Philippine government and the Moro Islamic Liberation Front (MILF). This crisis was preceded by the parties’ failure to move forward with a Memorandum of Agreement (MoA) on Moro ancestral domain.

The MoA, negotiated painstakingly for years, was scheduled for formal signing in Malaysia on August 5, 2008. But opposition efforts led to a Supreme Court TRO (Temporary Restraining Order) that stopped the signing of the agreement. Subsequently, violence erupted in parts of Mindanao and the peace process came to a halt.

Some commentators have argued that the MoA was but the tip of a scheme by President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo to alter the Constitution and perpetuate herself in power. Others have highlighted the MoA as evidence of American neo-colonialism. In their view, the U.S. government, acting via the United States Institute of Peace, engineered the MoA as a means of gaining a foothold and, eventually, acquiring new bases on Moro-controlled territory.

Most disturbing, some have used the MoA to resurrect the widespread—if not always articulated—spectre of violent Moros poised to pillage and oppress non-Moros in Mindanao.

Arguments against the MoA strike at the usual, easy targets: an unpopular president, the United States, and the stereotyped Muslim minority. But they fail to address the most critical issues. Why did the government need to negotiate a peace agreement with the MILF in the first place? Why did the peace panels agree on the MoA as a crucial building block for a potentially just and durable peace agreement?

Negotiations with the MILF were needed because past peace agreements have failed to address effectively the fundamental and just grievances of the roughly five-million strong Moro minority. Dialogue was preferable to the continuation of nearly four decades of intermittent and costly warfare.

Mindanao, the depository of much of the Philippines’ natural wealth, also could not be fully developed without peace. As long as Mindanao’s development was stunted, the entire country’s economic potential itself was stunted.

After 9/11, it also became evident that external terrorist elements had exploited the conflict in Mindanao to advance their own agenda. Bombings and other terrorist attacks that have injured or killed over a thousand people since 2000 underlined the security stakes in Mindanao. Neither an undertrained military, nor an undisciplined Moro insurgency, was likely ever to win a war over Moro independence.

Best hope

Many of the best political and scholarly minds in the country, as well as civil society activists, agreed that a peace agreement was the best hope for demobilizing Moro insurgents, marginalizing and apprehending genuine terrorists, stabilizing Mindanao, and strengthening Philippine state cohesion. Finally, negotiations with the MILF were a sine qua non for ending the human misery produced by a conflict that had already claimed over 100,000 lives and cumulatively displaced millions since the 1970s.

The MoA—which tackled territory, economic resources, and governance for the Moros as a distinct minority—was the most promising approach ever taken by the government on the Moro question. Territorially, it envisaged an enlargement of the present Autonomous Region in Muslim Mindanao (ARMM).

But most new additions to a larger, self-governing Moro entity would have happened only after the constitution and the people’s will had been exercised by plebiscite. This approach was legally sound, democratically just, and morally grounded. It addressed head-on the Moros’ grievance over the historical loss of their ancestral lands due to prejudicial policies taken by the American colonial and the Philippine independent governments from roughly 1902-1960’s.

Economically, the MoA envisioned Moro rights to develop, use and conserve minerals and resources on their ancestral lands. Transparent and competent implementation of this provision would have generated resources for running Moro administrative affairs and funding Moro education, employment, and infrastructure. In all studies of social development indicators, Moro-majority areas and provinces have always scored the lowest, underlying the vast need to provide development resources to the Moro population.

Instead of the old practice of economic proceeds from natural resources flowing only to Manila elites or a few wealthy Mindanao Christian families, the MoA opened the possibility of a more dignified life for the Moros, allowing them to develop and use their own resources instead of begging Manila for money and favors. The central government would have retained 25% of the proceeds from resource development on Moro lands, thus retaining a claim on Moro resources on behalf of the national population.

On governance, the MoA sought to “secure [the Moros’] identity and posterity, to protect their property rights and resources as well as to establish a system of governance suitable and acceptable to them as a distinct dominant people.” Some condemned this as carte blanche for Moros to abuse Christians and indigenous peoples. In reality, the MoA stipulated the preservation of religious liberties and civil rights, and “freedom of choice” for the indigenous peoples.

In the interest of justice and the partial correction of historical wrongs, the governance aspect of the MoA reasonably recognized centuries of distinct historical experience and Islamic identity among the Moro groups. The past can never be restored and should not be naively idealized, but it must be recognized in order to diminish the resentment that Moros feel over what they perceive as unrelenting efforts to deny their history and culture, beginning with Spanish colonization and continuing even today.

Create consensus

The MoA was not a perfect document. Many of its details were to be negotiated over a fifteen- month period before the signing of a Comprehensive Compact. This fifteen-month period could have been a productive time for debate, policy analysis, and the cultivation of public support necessary for the signing and implementation of an eventual peace agreement. The Philippine government and the MILF were on the right track towards a strategic and potentially effective approach to an old and debilitating problem.

The government failed to build sufficient support for the MoA prior to August 5, while the opposition was quick to condemn the document, not for its demerits but for partisan political gains. Old fears and prejudices re-surfaced, stifling the constructive momentum that the MoA might have generated.

As a result, today, parts of Mindanao are again mired in disaster. In some areas in Maguindanao, violence has come hand-in-hand with misery caused by typhoons and waterlily-clogged waterways. Tens of thousands have evacuated, and scores have died.

Should the story end here? No.

The government and MILF peace panels have built a historically and conceptually sound foundation on which a renewed peace process could stand. The Philippines’ opinion-makers and policy-makers must debate this foundation and create consensus on what they would support going forward. Discussion and deliberation must lead to the political commitment needed for any resumed peace talks to succeed.

Outsiders—including countries, multilateral organizations, corporations, and investors—continue to have a strong interest in long-term peace and development in Mindanao. If the parties can arrive at a strategic understanding, outside friends will most likely step up to the plate to offer financial, technical, and other support.

Mindanao, by virtue of its size, diversity, natural resources (including close to $1 trillion-estimated worth of mineral wealth), and human talent, seems to be a potential “promised land” in the Philippines. But violence and strife will continue to mar the landscape so as long as many Moros feel they are a marginalized underclass.

The MoA on ancestral domain courageously explored arrangements that recognized the distinctive Moro culture and experience, granted Moros a strong voice in how their lives were to be run, and challenged the Moros to think of themselves within the framework of a unified and strong Philippines.

Concerned national, regional and local leaders—Christian, Muslim, or neither—would do well to revisit the MoA, gauge its strengths, and take those parts that could form a solid base for getting beyond conflict. Clear thinking, courage, and political will are needed. Otherwise, swathes of the “promised land” could deteriorate into a wilderness of unfulfilled potential, instability, and human misery.

Dr. Tuminez is Assistant Dean and Director of Research, Lee Kuan Yew School of Public Policy, Singapore. From 2003-2007 she was Senior Research Associate of the Philippine Facilitation Project, United States Institute of Peace.

as of 10/06/2008 5:29 PM

xu_pauloboy

October 6th, 2008, 07:46 PM

kiretoce

October 7th, 2008, 06:21 AM

ang sama mo naman... yun nga lang ang wish ko para sa pinas, you don't have to be so degrading >(

Guess the subtle nuances of forum humor is lost on you. I did have these smileys....

:jk: (which means "just kidding") and

:nocrook: (meaning "peace") included in my post.

Unless you're too serious and failed to see the humor in things. :ohno:

red_jasper

October 9th, 2008, 03:10 AM

^^ i guess it's difficult for individuals to really understand other cultures that they only "heard of from others" or "observed from a distance". that's why most people in Mindanao who live and work closely with Muslims are more "open" or "appreciative" of the Muslim culture and faith.

a relative from Luzon recently sang praises about an honest Muslim trader in Quiapo who became her "suki" for supplying gold. IMO, each of us could do our part in bridging this "culture gap" :) by talking to our friends and relatives (who will "take our word for it" ;)) about our own positive personal experiences (whenever there are any, of course) involving specific members of the Muslim community :yes:

icarusrising

October 14th, 2008, 11:13 AM

Supreme Court rules domain agreement ‘unconstitutional’ (http://www.gmanews.tv/story/126956/Supreme-Court-rules-domain-agreement-unconstitutional#)

Article posted October 14, 2008 - 03:44 PM
Memorandum of Agreement on the Ancestral Domain Aspect of the GRP-MILF Tripoli Agreement on Peach of 2001

(Updated 3:50 p.m.) MANILA, Philippines - The Supreme Court on Tuesday declared the ancestral domain agreement between the government and the Moro Islamic Liberation Front (MILF) as “unconstitutional."

The Supreme Court voted 8-7 against the Memorandum of Agreement on Ancestral Domain (MOA-AD), which was opposed by several local government officials in Mindanao led by North Cotabato Vice-Governor Emmanuel Piñol.

“The failure of the respondents to consult the local government units or communities affected constitutes a departure by respondents from their mandate under E.O. [Executive Order] No. 3," the 90-page decision penned by Justice Conchito Carpio-Morales stated.

“Moreover, respondents exceeded their authority by the mere act of guaranteeing amendments to the Constitution," it added.

Aside from Morales, those who opined the memorandum to be unconstitutional are Chief Justice Reynato Puno, and Justices Consuelo Ynares-Santiago, Antonio Carpio, Adolfo Azcuna, and Ruben Reyes. Also joining the majority are Senior Justice Leonardo Quisumbing and Ma. Alicia Austria-Martinez.

In its ruling, the High Court also stressed that any alleged violation of the Constitution by any branch of government should be subjected under judicial review.

The remaining seven justices, meanwhile, said that the petitions against the MOA-AD should be dismissed because the agreement is already considered moot after the government withdrew from it.

The seven magistrates from the minority position included Justices Dante Tinga, Minita Chico-Nazario, Presbitero Velasco Jr, Antonio Eduardo Nachura, Teresita Leonardo-de Castro, Arturo Brion, and Renato Corona.

The decision directed the respondents to conduct public consultations first as prescribed by the people’s right to information.

“Respondents and their agents are enjoined from signing and executing the same or similar agreements, in accordance with the discussions embodied in the decision," the ruling added.

To recall, the MOA-AD signing was scheduled on August 5, 2008 in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, but the court issued a stay order a day before the event based on a petition by Piñol.

The North Cotabato governor, along with the other petitioners, questioned the lack of disclosure and public consultation on the deal prior to the scheduled signing.

President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo said the government will no longer sign the domain deal, in light of the series of attacks staged by suspected MILF elements in a number of Mindanao provinces last month.

The atrocities were allegedly triggered after the Supreme Court ordered a temporary restraining order against the signing of the homeland pact.

Peace talks in Mindanao were also threatened after the government dissolved its peace panel following the hostilities in southern Philippines and the brouhaha that surrounded the botched signing of the MOA-AD. - Carlo Lorenzo, Mark Merueñas, GMANews.TV

Toymatz

October 21st, 2008, 02:13 PM

my suggestion is somewhere in northern mindanao like near cagayan de oro city and to be named "Maharlika City". how about that guys?

A maharlika palace where the president will be residing, a senate and supreme court palaces will be built in a malay architecture similar to davao airport but with intricate/ornate decorations.

my other suggestion is at the foot of Mt. arayat cos it has a good proximity with DMIA. (I hope my arayat won't erupt)

That term "Maharlika" was popularized during the Marcos era because the couple were very much enchanted with royalties (believing they're one). It was also the name of his highly questionable guirella unit of which he led kuno during the Japanese occupation. They even promoted large usage of terms naming everthing they could think of. Later, when he revealed his plan to the Malaysian royalties to have the Philippines renamed "Maharlika", they (Malaysians) laughed out loud. To their surprise, Marcos asked why...And you know why? That term refers to person with large sex organs...marcos immediately abandoned the idea. You guys still want that name?:lol::lol::lol:

kyle@1008

October 21st, 2008, 04:33 PM

^^ I didn't then,...now I want that name...

Toymatz

October 22nd, 2008, 05:49 AM

^^ I didn't then,...now I want that name...

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

habagatcentral1

October 22nd, 2008, 07:03 AM

^^ Winner! :lol: :rofl: :hilarious:
Maharlika may be "noble" in our language but just imagine that we have neighbors speaking in Bahasa, then....hehehe!!! :D

Toymatz

October 22nd, 2008, 01:49 PM

^^ Winner! :lol: :rofl: :hilarious:
Maharlika may be "noble" in our language but just imagine that we have neighbors speaking in Bahasa, then....hehehe!!! :D

Correction pala...I could recall quite clearly my professor told me. It's not "large" but "oversize"...:lol:

barrera_marquez

October 22nd, 2008, 01:49 PM

Why move the capital? Will it really solve our current problems?

What the government needs to do is to push for federalism....Decentralization is the key.

^^ yeah! I agree!

fil07

October 22nd, 2008, 03:43 PM

Kung US State ang Pilipinas, ilang electoral votes kaya meron tayo? :lol:

bacolodchamp

October 22nd, 2008, 03:45 PM

^^ Winner! :lol: :rofl: :hilarious:
Maharlika may be "noble" in our language but just imagine that we have neighbors speaking in Bahasa, then....hehehe!!! :D

we can take it as a compliment...:lol:

mAiNsTrEaMhunter

October 23rd, 2008, 08:11 AM

Kung US State ang Pilipinas, ilang electoral votes kaya meron tayo? :lol:

i guess more the top 5 most number of electoral votes in the US states combine.... :lol::lol::lol:

fil07

October 23rd, 2008, 09:46 AM

Kung 1 district per 650,000 (not sure about this), may 117+/- representatives (RP 2001 pop. = 76,504,077) and 2 senators ang State of the Philippines. 117 plus 2 equals 119 electoral votes?

mAiNsTrEaMhunter

October 23rd, 2008, 12:29 PM

^^
i guess its 500,000 people per 1 representative.... gosh! too lazy to find out how many but it'll be huge.... in this case, US might declare Philippine Independence...:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

kiretoce

October 25th, 2008, 06:32 AM

Kung 1 district per 650,000 (not sure about this), may 117+/- representatives (RP 2001 pop. = 76,504,077) and 2 senators ang State of the Philippines. 117 plus 2 equals 119 electoral votes?

The US Electoral College (they cast the electoral votes in a presidential election) is a separate entity apart from the US House of Representatives and from the US Senate.

mAiNsTrEaMhunter

October 25th, 2008, 08:47 AM

The US Electoral College (they cast the electoral votes in a presidential election) is a separate entity apart from the US House of Representatives and from the US Senate.

yeah, its a separate entity because its just for the presidential candidates but i guess fil07 here is trying to come with how this electoral votes are determined if RP is a US state. we all know that electoral votes is determined by the number of representatives and the 2 senators in each state. :)

fil07

October 25th, 2008, 11:31 AM

It would not be impossible to have a Filipino US President. hehe

icarusrising

October 25th, 2008, 03:19 PM

Abdullah agrees on Mindanao dialogue (http://www.inquirer.net/specialfeatures/mindanaopeaceprocess/view.php?db=1&article=20081024-168347)
October 24, 2008 23:09:00
Christian V. Esguerra
Philippine Daily Inquirer

BEIJING (via PLDT)—Malaysian Prime Minister Abdullah Ahmad Badawi on Friday agreed that the negotiations between Manila and the Moro Islamic Liberation Front should be anchored on “multi-sectoral acceptance.”

Abdullah voiced this sentiment during a meeting with President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo on the sidelines of the 7th Asia-Europe Meeting here, the Filipino President’s spokesman said.

“Prime Minister [Abdullah] agreed that dialogue must be held so that a multi-sectoral acceptance of any moving forward later on (in the peace talks) will be there,” Press Secretary Jesus Dureza told reporters after the meeting.

Malaysia has been mediating peace talks between the Philippine government and the MILF.

The lack of dialogue with other sectors contributed to the collapse of the memorandum of agreement on ancestral domain that was to have been signed between the government and the secessionist rebels.

Several Mindanao leaders asked the Supreme Court to dump the agreement on constitutional grounds and because of the government negotiators’ apparent failure to sufficiently consult stakeholders over the proposed creation of a Bangsamoro Juridical Entity.

In the meeting, Dureza said Arroyo briefed Abdullah on the status of the peace talks with the MILF, which were shelved because of the Moro rebels’ attacks in North Cotobato and Lanao del Norte after the Supreme Court stopped the signing of the Memorandum of Agreement on Ancestral Domain.

Arroyo was joined in the meeting at the Kerry Center Hotel by Presidential Peace Adviser Hermogenes Esperon.

“She personally relayed to him the status he knows already, about where we are in the peace process, the dialogues that we are conducting,” he said. “She assured everybody that the continuation of the peace process was still a high priority.”

In turn, he said Abdullah told Arroyo that he would continue supporting the Philippine government’s effort to end, through peaceful means, the decades-old Moro insurgency in Mindanao.

“The President thanked him for all the support in the peace process,” Esperon said.

The cordiality between the two leaders did not appear to have been diminished by a proposal for Malaysia to stay out of the Mindanao peace process.

Senator Rodolfo Biazon was pushing for another third party such as Indonesia, saying the Malaysian participation involved “conflicts of interest.”

He said allowing Malaysia to continue mediating between the government and the MILF would compromise the Philippines’ claim over Sabah and parts of the disputed Spratly group of islands.

ferny123

October 25th, 2008, 04:42 PM

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc350/achernar_08/maharlikahighways2.png
wish ko rin sana na magkaroon ng ang Pilipinas ng advanced highway system like the Interstate highway system sa U.S. and we will call it the maharlika highway system

mas maganda kng mga tren nalng ilagay instead of freeways. ang freeways mas malaki ang area na kailangan tapos gas2 pa nang gasolina. at hindi pa environmentaly friendly compared sa train. at ang tren mabilis na at epiktibo. gaya ng sa european countries at sa japan. wag natin gayahin ang mga amerkano. :bash::bash::bash::bash::bash::bash::bash::bash::bash::bash::bash:

barrera_marquez

October 26th, 2008, 11:02 AM

tonight

October 27th, 2008, 09:58 AM

magbotohan muna kau dito :lol:

hirolionheart

October 27th, 2008, 03:02 PM

^^In any way ok lang sa akin pero mas prefer ko ang tren kasi hindi naman magamit ng mga ordinaryong commuter ang expressway agad just like the SCTEx, anim na buwan nang bukas pero look mga ate at kuya, wala pang provincial bus ang lumilipad sa expressway na iyan... :ohno:

OT: Hay... pumunta kaming Baguio City nitong Oct. 21-25 lang, at nakita namin ang SCTEX, at wala kaming nakitang dumadaan, eh sila Gloria pa lang yata naka-biyahe diyan eh, hehehe (joke!^_^)

Animo

October 27th, 2008, 08:52 PM

CEBU CITY, Oct. 27 – Officials of Sabrosa, Portugal, the birthplace of Ferdinand Magellan, want to establish sister-city ties with Cebu City and have expressed interest in cultural exchange activities.

Sabrosa Mayor Jose Manuel Carvallo Marquez paid a courtesy call on Acting Cebu City Mayor Michael Rama recently and relayed their city‘s intention to become a sister city.

Rama told reporters the proposal will have to be reviewed and evaluated, and endorsed to the Cebu City Council for approval.

A proposal to establish sister-city ties with Barcelona, Spain is also awaiting approval from the council.

Cebu City Protocol Officer Nagiel Banacia said they are looking at tourism and cultural exchange as some of the areas of cooperation between Sabrosa and the city, considering that it is the hometown of explorer Ferdinand Magellan.

”Their government is working on establishing sister-city ties with all the places that Magellan visited, that’s why they are interested in Cebu City. And since Magellan is from there, we could have cultural exchange programs with Sabrosa,” he said.

Magellan, a Portuguese maritime explorer, arrived in the Philippines on March 16, 1521 and was killed in the Battle of Mactan on April 27 of that year.

Sabrosa is in a region in eastern Portugal known for its 15th-century manor houses, ancient monuments, churches, chapels, shrines and its full-bodied red wine.

From November 5 to 7, Cebu City will be the host of the 4th Tribuna España-Filipinas, an informal forum intended to advance Philippine-Spanish relations through active participation of and interaction among governments, private sector, non-government organizations and the academe.

One of the highlights of the activity is the signing of an agreement between the cities of Cebu and Barcelona, which is seen to result in more exchange programs between the two cities.

Aside from tourism, Banacia said Cebu City can benefit from cooperation in the areas of energy and infrastructure, business and education. (PNA (http://news.balita.ph/2008/10/27/mayor-of-magellans-birthplace-in-portugal-wants-to-make-cebu-a-sister-city/))

diehardbisdak

October 28th, 2008, 09:32 AM

^^ further info about Cebu - Barcelona Sisterhood Agreement

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City to ink sister pact with Barcelona
Cebu Daily News
First Posted 13:49:00 10/28/2008

CEBU CITY, Philippines – The Cebu City government is scheduled to sign a sisterhood agreement with the city of Barcelona, Spain next month to enhance trade and tourism ties between the two cities.

The Sister City Agreement of Friendship and Cooperation between the two cities is set on November 6 at Casino Español in time for the celebration of the Fourth Tribuna Espana-Filipinas.

In his resolution, Cebu City Councilor Arsenio Pacana said the sisterhood agreement acknowledges the historical and cultural ties as well as influences of the Spanish that shaped the Filipino character in general and the Cebuanos in particular.

He said this started in 1521 when Ferdinand Magellan baptized the ruler of Cebu, Rajah Humabon and his wife Queen Juana, ushering in the introduction of Christianity in the country.

Acting Mayor Michael Rama will represent Cebu City while Mayor Jordi Hereu Boher of Barcelona, Spain would send a delegation headed by Mr. Ignasi Cardelus I Fontadevila, Councilor Delegate of the Presidency and Institutional Relations.

Under the agreement, the two cities agreed to encourage and support collaboration on municipal and economic concerns and promote mutual development of each other as eco-tourism destinations.

The four-year agreement also allows for sharing of technical knowledge and expertise in such fields as urban sanitation, solid waste management, sewage system and water residue management. /Correspondent Jully Venus Cuizon

publius17

October 29th, 2008, 09:03 AM

I suggest that we have to retain manila as our capital because of its historic significance however I want to rename NCR as Aguinaldo in honor of the 1st philippine president Emilio Aguinaldo like washington in US. Manila will be like the D.C, just a complex or area of government seat, it is within the Federal State of Aguinaldo once we shifted to federalism. But before we do this, decongest NCR first, particularly, Manila.

Manila as the government center, i suggest that the three (3) branches of government should be in one (1) place. the Burgos Avenue will have a big part on this, transferring Malacanang Palace from San Miguel to the old Building of National Museum, the Federal Legislature whether it is a parliament or not from Quezon City for the House of Representatives and Pasay City for Senate to Manila City Hall, and the Supreme Court from Pedro Gil, Taft Avenue, to Manila Post Office Building in Lawton. With this, the coordination among the 3 branches will not be time consuming.

I also agree that we change our country's name philippines to maharlika. Maharlika came from a derivative word "Maja" which means "noble" or "dakila" in filipino, and "lika" the root word of "likas" or "natural." Hence, Maharlika means natural noble or "LIKAS NA DAKILA" in filipino.

mAiNsTrEaMhunter

October 29th, 2008, 11:23 AM

^^
i guess the philippines is very an "iconic" name...maharlika could have some historical accounts in malaysia and indonesia.... to change the country's name is rather insane.:)

evangelicum

October 29th, 2008, 12:08 PM

I was reading today’s tabloid (People’s Tonight) when I saw pages of city ordinances (Ordinance Nos. 24-27, 57-61, 67-69 and 78) regarding the planned creation of new barangays in the City of Taguig. According to the said ordinances:

* A new barangay will be created from Barangay Hagonoy (population: 14,748) which will be named Barangay San Miguel (population: 6,433)
* Barangay Bagong Tanyag will be divided into three new barangays: Barangay North Daang Hari (population: 10,049), Barangay South Daang Hari (population: 15,119) and Barangay Tanyag proper (population: 18,284)
* Barangay Central Bicutan (population: 24,291) will be created and separated from Barangay Upper Bicutan (population: 38,279)
* Signal Village (which is my barangay BTW) will be divided into four: Barangay Katuparan (population: 14,885), Barangay North Signal Village (population: 27,960), Barangay Central Signal Village (population: 31,364) and Barangay South Signal Village (population: 33,697)
* Barangay Pinagsama (population: 32,777) will be created from Barangay Western Bicutan (population: 70,639)
* Barangay Fort Bonifacio with its defined areas and boundaries (population: 20,741)
* Barangay New Lower Bicutan (population: 35,798) from its mother barangay Lower Bicutan (population: 44,088)

Colonel Burger

October 29th, 2008, 12:10 PM

what is wrong with "Philippines" gosh.

Waldenstrom

October 29th, 2008, 10:20 PM

what a beautiful banner we have now and all of a sudden, i'd like it to be the capital... just so charming CEBU

DARK SPIRIT 2

October 29th, 2008, 11:44 PM

what a beautiful banner we have now and all of a sudden, i'd like it to be the capital... just so charming CEBU

Include my vote for that idea @ Waldenstrom!:) CEBU-The Queen City Of The South!:okay::okay::okay:

habagatcentral1

October 30th, 2008, 01:28 AM

what is wrong with "Philippines" gosh.
Maybe because of its "colonial source" that some nationalists or ultra-nationalists wanted to have it removed.

animasola

October 30th, 2008, 05:34 AM

^^Oh yeah! Viva Catalunya!

kurom

October 30th, 2008, 07:03 AM

Include my vote for that idea @ Waldenstrom!:) CEBU-The Queen City Of The South!:okay::okay::okay:

Cebu - Capital city? Hindi rin.

Sleepwalker

October 30th, 2008, 08:26 AM

Include my vote for that idea @ Waldenstrom!:) CEBU-The Queen City Of The South!:okay::okay::okay:

My personal opinion is that there is no need to change our capital and our official language. What our government should do is to give the other parts of the Philippines their fair share of attention.

Cebu is too small (in terms of land area) to become the capital.

Manila is already doing good being the capital...Just don't put everything in Manila.

ivanc

October 30th, 2008, 12:39 PM

we are among the few nations in the world whose name can be used with "the"... hehehe :) joke

The Philippines...

no The Japan, no The China... hehehe :)

Toymatz

October 30th, 2008, 04:42 PM

My personal opinion is that there is no need to change our capital and our official language. What our government should do is to give the other parts of the Philippines their fair share of attention.

Cebu is too small (in terms of land area) to become the capital.

Manila is already doing good being the capital...Just don't put everything in Manila.

Korek ka ana bai!!!:)

Toymatz

October 30th, 2008, 04:54 PM

we are among the few nations in the world whose name can be used with "the"... hehehe :) joke

The Philippines...

no The Japan, no The China... hehehe :)

^^And we are also one, if not the only country nga mahilig magbutang og titulo sa pangalan ng ating mga cities (eg. Makati city, Lucena City, Butuan City, Cagayan de Oro City among others) Just imagine this: Los Angeles City, Chicago City, Houston City etc..Well ofcourse there are cities that should have that tag to distinguish them from something else (eg. Cebu City, Davao City etc...kasi merong lalawigan na bearing that names and other examples Quezon City, Gen, Santos City kasi pinangalan after persons. At pagbago naman talagang atat na atat lagyan kagad ng tag. Kahit nga sa mga beauty contests emphasized talaga (eg. Ms. Valenzuela Citeeeeeee!!!!) I would prefer simple lang like Manila or The City of Manila.:)

mAiNsTrEaMhunter

October 31st, 2008, 09:34 AM

^^

wow, i love to hear LOS ANGELES CITY!:lol::lol::lol:

no difference if it be Los Angeles or with a city its very sosyal! :cheers:

Igsuonnimo

October 31st, 2008, 10:28 AM

^^And we are also one, if not the only country nga mahilig magbutang og titulo sa pangalan ng ating mga cities (eg. Makati city, Lucena City, Butuan City, Cagayan de Oro City among others) Just imagine this: Los Angeles City, Chicago City, Houston City etc..Well ofcourse there are cities that should have that tag to distinguish them from something else (eg. Cebu City, Davao City etc...kasi merong lalawigan na bearing that names and other examples Quezon City, Gen, Santos City kasi pinangalan after persons. At pagbago naman talagang atat na atat lagyan kagad ng tag. Kahit nga sa mga beauty contests emphasized talaga (eg. Ms. Valenzuela Citeeeeeee!!!!) I would prefer simple lang like Manila or The City of Manila.:)

Maiba lang ako no, tutal mga City ang pinag-uusapan dito.
Ilan ba dito sa bansa natin ang may lugar na may pangalang SAN JOSE?
Iyong mapa ko sa bahay, binibilang ko umaabot halos sa sampu.

dinabaw

October 31st, 2008, 06:02 PM

Maiba lang ako no, tutal mga City ang pinag-uusapan dito.
Ilan ba dito sa bansa natin ang may lugar na may pangalang SAN JOSE?
Iyong mapa ko sa bahay, binibilang ko umaabot halos sa sampu.

baka ang Sta. Cruz di mo mabilang lol

kiretoce

October 31st, 2008, 08:53 PM

we are among the few nations in the world whose name can be used with "the"... hehehe :) joke

The Philippines...

no The Japan, no The China... hehehe :)

That's because of the implied plurality of the name.

achernar

November 1st, 2008, 02:36 AM

if gusto niyo ng high speed railway... ito ang map na ginawa ko...

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc350/achernar_08/railway.png

hirolionheart

November 1st, 2008, 03:08 AM

if gusto niyo ng high speed railway... ito ang map na ginawa ko...

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc350/achernar_08/railway.png

Great achernar!:colgate:
Swabeng-swabe nga ang paglalakbay sa ganitong configuration:)

Toymatz

November 1st, 2008, 06:37 AM

That's because of the implied plurality of the name.

^^Yeah....It used to be "The Philippine Islands" (American Colonial Period) and later shortened...:)

fil07

November 1st, 2008, 02:11 PM

Cebu and Negros Oriental din sa pinakamakiput na part ng strait babagtas
Panay, Guimaras and Negros Occidental, pwede

bartstrife99

November 1st, 2008, 02:15 PM

if gusto niyo ng high speed railway... ito ang map na ginawa ko...

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc350/achernar_08/railway.png

mas maganda both side left and right, sa left maglagay na lang tulay for rapid train transit dapat dual din pedeng pang commuter!

barrera_marquez

November 1st, 2008, 03:27 PM

^^And we are also one, if not the only country nga mahilig magbutang og titulo sa pangalan ng ating mga cities (eg. Makati city, Lucena City, Butuan City, Cagayan de Oro City among others) Just imagine this: Los Angeles City, Chicago City, Houston City etc..Well ofcourse there are cities that should have that tag to distinguish them from something else (eg. Cebu City, Davao City etc...kasi merong lalawigan na bearing that names and other examples Quezon City, Gen, Santos City kasi pinangalan after persons. At pagbago naman talagang atat na atat lagyan kagad ng tag. Kahit nga sa mga beauty contests emphasized talaga (eg. Ms. Valenzuela Citeeeeeee!!!!) I would prefer simple lang like Manila or The City of Manila.:)

^^ tama ka dude... puro Caloocan CITY, Cabanatuan CITY, Tuguegarao CITY... baka mamaya maging CITYnta na ang sisenta, ngayon pa nga lang ang CITY e ang numero bago mag-utso... :lol: (sabi sa joke)

Toymatz

November 1st, 2008, 03:31 PM

kiretoce

November 1st, 2008, 05:33 PM

tama ka dude... puro Caloocan CITY, Cabanatuan CITY, Tuguegarao CITY... baka mamaya maging CITYnta na ang sisenta, ngayon pa nga lang ang CITY e ang numero bago mag-utso... :lol: (sabi sa joke)

That was lame. But you get an A for effort. ;)

SUV111

November 1st, 2008, 08:47 PM

^^ hahahahaha and you get an A for being funny:lol::lol::lol:

barrera_marquez

November 1st, 2008, 11:53 PM

And mga ate at kuya... here in the Philippines ka lang makakakita ng mga:

1. City na puro puno at walang masyadong development, mi wala ngang matinong ospital at fire trucks, talo pa ibang bayan...
2. Bayan na mas masahol pa sa mga lungsod...
3. Dito lang din mayroong mga avenues na iisa na nga lang ang lane (no obstructions ito, talagang ganito na siya!) e hindi pa simentado...

Sa madaling salita, hindi natin alam ang mga requirements na dapat daanan ng mga iyan bago sila i-upgrade... those names are just titles... calling a horse a goat will not make it a horse... (sourced)

Kailangan ba talagang ipangalandakan na city sila?

SleMarKen

November 2nd, 2008, 02:30 AM

Bayan na mas masahol pa sa Lungsod?

Diba pareho lang un?
Bayan is a municipality
Lungsod is a municipality din...

SleMarKen

November 2nd, 2008, 02:33 AM

^^ tama ka dude... puro Caloocan CITY, Cabanatuan CITY, Tuguegarao CITY... baka mamaya maging CITYnta na ang sisenta, ngayon pa nga lang ang CITY e ang numero bago mag-utso... :lol: (sabi sa joke)

ahh, joke ba to? Samin dun sa baba, hindi,pero makikitawa na din ako...;) hahaha!

Hindi din sisenta yan, kundi sitenta from siete - sietenta - sitenta;)

barrera_marquez

November 2nd, 2008, 10:31 AM

Bayan na mas masahol pa sa Lungsod?

Diba pareho lang un?
Bayan is a municipality
Lungsod is a municipality din...

In terms of LGC, they are almost the same, however, ang city kasi mas malaki, mas matindi at mas mapera compared sa municipalities... not to mention mas mabilis ang development dito...

We mean in terms of development... ang layo kaya ng laki ng Bacoor sa Trece Martires City...

At pahabol...

1. Mayroon din pala tayong highway dito na malaki ang *toot* (Maharlika Highway)
2. Unang ginang na adik sa mga sapatos (octopus yata ito e)
3. Presidenteng pandak na e may kulangot pa sa mukha

dinabaw

November 2nd, 2008, 04:11 PM

Bayan na mas masahol pa sa Lungsod?

Diba pareho lang un?
Bayan is a municipality
Lungsod is a municipality din...

Lungsod could also mean city ex. Lungsod ng Maynila :)

Waldenstrom

November 3rd, 2008, 12:45 AM

^^And we are also one, if not the only country nga mahilig magbutang og titulo sa pangalan ng ating mga cities (eg. Makati city, Lucena City, Butuan City, Cagayan de Oro City among others) Just imagine this: Los Angeles City, Chicago City, Houston City etc..Well ofcourse there are cities that should have that tag to distinguish them from something else (eg. Cebu City, Davao City etc...kasi merong lalawigan na bearing that names and other examples Quezon City, Gen, Santos City kasi pinangalan after persons. At pagbago naman talagang atat na atat lagyan kagad ng tag. Kahit nga sa mga beauty contests emphasized talaga (eg. Ms. Valenzuela Citeeeeeee!!!!) I would prefer simple lang like Manila or The City of Manila.:)
maybe this is to avoid confusion because there may be a city with the same name of a town/province in other places.

but i have to admit, some Filipinos love distinction. Attaching the word "city" in their place somehow gives them pride.

SleMarKen

November 3rd, 2008, 02:28 AM

Lungsod could also mean city ex. Lungsod ng Maynila :)

Nop, Lungsod is a muncicipality. Bat pareho ang term?
ex. Municipality of Liloan Cebu or Lungsod sa Liloan...
Lungsod means rural, aight?
Syudad (ciudad) means urban...

habagatcentral1

November 3rd, 2008, 02:31 AM

Nop, Lungsod is a muncicipality. Bat pareho ang term?
ex. Municipality of Liloan Cebu or Lungsod sa Liloan...
Lungsod means rural, aight?
Syudad (ciudad) means urban...

In Visayan context, it is municipality/town.
Lungsod = town/municipality
Dakbayan/ciudad = city

While in Tagalog/Filipino conext:
Bayan = town/municipality
Lungsod = city

Marni

November 3rd, 2008, 03:12 AM

in Waray-waray naman
Bungto=town/municipality
Syudad=city

ex.
Bungto han Jaro
Syudad han Tacloban

tawag naman sa kanila
Bungto-anon = townsfolk
Syudad-anon = city folks

habagatcentral1

November 3rd, 2008, 03:13 AM

In Hiligaynon/Ilonggo:

Banwa = town/municipality or town proper/poblacion
Dakbanwa/Ciudad = city (the latter is more commonly used)

por ejemplo:
Banwa sang Pavia
Dakbanwa/Ciudad sang Iloilo

mAiNsTrEaMhunter

November 3rd, 2008, 05:02 AM

In Cebuano/Sinibuano:

Lungsod = town/municipality or town proper/poblacion
Dakbayan/Ciudad = city (the former is more commonly used)

por ejemplo:
Lungsod sa Alegria
Dakbayan/Ciudad sa Sugbo

publius17

November 3rd, 2008, 05:22 AM

^^
i guess the philippines is very an "iconic" name...maharlika could have some historical accounts in malaysia and indonesia.... to change the country's name is rather insane.:)

I beg to disagree with your proposition. The Philippines was named by Spanish conquistadors in the sixteenth century for the prince who would become King Philip II of Spain, who described by James Johonnot in his work entitled Ten Great Events in History, as a "vain, bigoted, and ambitious" monarch who "had no scruples in regard to means... placed freedom of thought under a ban, and put an end to the intellectual progress of the country". As a nationalist Filipino, I would never let anyone to name my country in honor of this alien King, who for 300 years oppressed our fellow Filipinos.

Naming our country is asserting our Sovereignty. If other countries were able to do it why not the Philippines? Let us take the experience of these following countries:

* Bangladesh – East Pakistan until 1971
* Belarus – Byelorussia until 1991; also called White Russia.
* Belize – British Honduras until 1973
* Benin – Dahomey until 1975
* Burkina Faso from Upper Volta in 1984
* Cambodia known as Khmer Republic 1971-1975, Kampuchea 1975-1991
* Central African Republic – from Ubangi-Shari on independence in 1958 (called Central African Empire from December 4, 1976 to September 20, 1979)
* Colombia – New Granada until 1819
* Czech Republic – Bohemia until 1918
* Democratic Republic of the Congo – was Zaire between 1971 and 1997.
* Djibouti – formerly French Somaliland, then Afars and Issas until 1977
* East Timor – Portuguese Timor until 1975, since independence in 2002 also known as Timor-Leste
* Equatorial Guinea – Spanish Guinea until 1968
* Ethiopia – historically known as Abyssinia as well as Ethiopia
* Ghana – the Gold Coast until 1957
* Guinea Bissau – Portuguese Guinea until 1974
* Guyana – British Guiana until 1966
* Indonesia – Netherlands East Indies until 1945
* Iran – also known as Persia before 1979 (both names were used in the mid-20th century)
* Ireland (state) – before 1937 the Irish Free State. Was at one time referred to as Éire and is sometimes referred to by its description of the Republic of Ireland. Some British media still persist in usage of these two names.
* Jordan – formerly Transjordan
* Kiribati – known as the Gilbert Islands before independence in 1979
* Malawi – Nyasaland until 1964
* Mali – French Sudan until 1960
* Mexico – New Spain until 1821
* Moldova – Moldavia until 1991
* Myanmar, in 1988 the military junta changed the name but Burma is still widely used in English (see Names of Burma)
* Namibia – formerly South-West Africa
* Samoa – Western Samoa in 1997
* Serbia and Montenegro from Federal Republic of Yugoslavia in 2003. Ultimately split into two nations, Serbia and Montenegro, in 2006.
* Sri Lanka from Ceylon in 1972
* Thailand – formerly Siam until 1949.
* Tuvalu – known as the Ellice Islands before independence in 1978
* Vanuatu – from New Hebrides in 1980 after gaining independence.
* Western Sahara – formerly Spanish Sahara
* Zambia – Northern Rhodesia until 1964
* Zimbabwe – part of Rhodesia until 1910; then known as Southern Rhodesia until a year before it declared independence in 1965; known as Rhodesia until 1979, then became Zimbabwe-Rhodesia until it assumed the current name in 1980.

kiretoce

November 3rd, 2008, 05:38 AM

I think we're veering away from the main topic of discussion; being the proposal for a new national capital of the Philippines, not a new name for the country.

mAiNsTrEaMhunter

November 3rd, 2008, 06:05 AM

I beg to disagree with your proposition. The Philippines was named by Spanish conquistadors in the sixteenth century for the prince who would become King Philip II of Spain, who described by James Johonnot in his work entitled Ten Great Events in History, as a "vain, bigoted, and ambitious" monarch who "had no scruples in regard to means... placed freedom of thought under a ban, and put an end to the intellectual progress of the country". As a nationalist Filipino, I would never let anyone to name my country in honor of this alien King, who for 300 years oppressed our fellow Filipinos.

Naming our country is asserting our Sovereignty. If other countries were able to do it why not the Philippines? Let us take the experience of these following countries:

* Bangladesh – East Pakistan until 1971
* Belarus – Byelorussia until 1991; also called White Russia.
* Belize – British Honduras until 1973
* Benin – Dahomey until 1975
* Burkina Faso from Upper Volta in 1984
* Cambodia known as Khmer Republic 1971-1975, Kampuchea 1975-1991
* Central African Republic – from Ubangi-Shari on independence in 1958 (called Central African Empire from December 4, 1976 to September 20, 1979)
* Colombia – New Granada until 1819
* Czech Republic – Bohemia until 1918
* Democratic Republic of the Congo – was Zaire between 1971 and 1997.
* Djibouti – formerly French Somaliland, then Afars and Issas until 1977
* East Timor – Portuguese Timor until 1975, since independence in 2002 also known as Timor-Leste
* Equatorial Guinea – Spanish Guinea until 1968
* Ethiopia – historically known as Abyssinia as well as Ethiopia
* Ghana – the Gold Coast until 1957
* Guinea Bissau – Portuguese Guinea until 1974
* Guyana – British Guiana until 1966
* Indonesia – Netherlands East Indies until 1945
* Iran – also known as Persia before 1979 (both names were used in the mid-20th century)
* Ireland (state) – before 1937 the Irish Free State. Was at one time referred to as Éire and is sometimes referred to by its description of the Republic of Ireland. Some British media still persist in usage of these two names.
* Jordan – formerly Transjordan
* Kiribati – known as the Gilbert Islands before independence in 1979
* Malawi – Nyasaland until 1964
* Mali – French Sudan until 1960
* Mexico – New Spain until 1821
* Moldova – Moldavia until 1991
* Myanmar, in 1988 the military junta changed the name but Burma is still widely used in English (see Names of Burma)
* Namibia – formerly South-West Africa
* Samoa – Western Samoa in 1997
* Serbia and Montenegro from Federal Republic of Yugoslavia in 2003. Ultimately split into two nations, Serbia and Montenegro, in 2006.
* Sri Lanka from Ceylon in 1972
* Thailand – formerly Siam until 1949.
* Tuvalu – known as the Ellice Islands before independence in 1978
* Vanuatu – from New Hebrides in 1980 after gaining independence.
* Western Sahara – formerly Spanish Sahara
* Zambia – Northern Rhodesia until 1964
* Zimbabwe – part of Rhodesia until 1910; then known as Southern Rhodesia until a year before it declared independence in 1965; known as Rhodesia until 1979, then became Zimbabwe-Rhodesia until it assumed the current name in 1980.

ok but i guess if your making your history homework pretty well we were not one people then by the time spain colonized the islands. even today, language is still an issue. spain unite us with our differences under one common name and religion. tell me, were the tagalogs, cebuanos, ilonggos, warays, etc. a one country back then? bai they were making individual kingdoms. so stop being overly nationalistic cause even though how much you change our nation's name, it won't make us rich and powerful! peace! stop na its OT. the mods have it. :)