Alle
October 31st, 2005, 12:44 PM
Can't w8 to see more progress (obviously :P).
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View Full Version : #PROJECT: THE PALM JUMEIRAH Alle October 31st, 2005, 12:44 PM Can't w8 to see more progress (obviously :P). dubayyy October 31st, 2005, 07:50 PM The topping out of the other 21 buildings will follow shortly, with almost 90% of the total concrete already poured. Interior designs are being finalised and the procurement of fit-out materials has commenced'. ...other 21 - i thought there were only 20 shoreline buildings in total! Also any idea where the Master Marina clubhouse will be located? This is first I've heard of this. luv2bebrown October 31st, 2005, 08:06 PM the palm promo videos featured a monorail on the palm trunk. is this monorail project still going through? dubaiflo October 31st, 2005, 10:05 PM supposed to be. we don't have any further details but it was mentioned several times now. also BB and BD will have a monorail. there are also CoA renderings with a monorail. Dubai-Lover November 4th, 2005, 10:12 AM moevenpick plans a 716 room hotel on palm jumeirah :eek: Movenpick doubles up http://www.itp.net/pictures/news/Moevenpick-L.jpg Tamim is confident of success with the Movenpick Ibn Battuta Hotel (above). Movenpick Hotels & Resorts has announced plans to open five additional hotels in Dubai, as well as expand into Yemen, Palestine and Qatar. The Swiss hotel chain set out to double its portfolio of properties in 1999, when it operated 35 hotels and 7,400 rooms. The company looks well on track to achieve this, and by the end of 2007 its portfolio will comprise a total of 73 hotels and more than 19,000 rooms globally. Of these, some 39 projects will be located in the Middle East alone. At present, Movenpick Hotels & Resorts comprises 53 hotels in 19 countries internationally and 25 properties in 9 countries across the Middle East, with no fewer than 20 signed projects currently either at the planning phase or under construction. “We believe that the Middle East in general has not fully realised its potential as a leisure or MICE destination. The trend is definitely on the up for inbound leisure and MICE markets from the traditional European and intra-regional markets, and also from the emerging markets of Asia Pacific, and Eastern European countries,” Toufic Tamim, director of sales and marketing, Middle East, Movenpick Hotels & Resorts, told Hotelier Middle East. “Dubai in particular has captured the essence of this rapid tourism potential and is gearing up to meet this demand. Moevenpick will also be ready to meet the future demand and, with a growing network of regional and international sales offices, will at least be able to provide the necessary number of rooms on request that have so far been regrettably turned down due to our limited available number of rooms in Dubai,” he added. In Dubai alone, seven Movenpick Hotels are to be completed over the next two years. Over that same period, four other hotels are scheduled for completion in El Obour, Egypt; Sana’a, Yemen; Doha, Qatar; and Al Khobar, Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. The Dubai properties include the 716-room Movenpick Resort Oceana — The Palm Jumeirah; the 375-room Movenpick Hotel & Residence Deira; 294-room Movenpick Hotel Jumeirah Beach and the 465-room Ibn Battuta Movenpick Hotel. The Ibn Battuta property will be Movenpick’s first hotel development adjoining a shopping and commercial centre, and Tamim is confident that this combination offers a recipe for success. “The Ibn Battuta Hotel, which will be operated by Movenpick, will be a five star-hotel by excellence. We feel that by the time the hotel is ready and operational by end 2007/early 2008 the area around the Ibn Battuta Mall would have fast become one the new and many centres of Dubai, with the Media City, Internet City, lakes, Marina and Jebel Ali all within proximity. This, coupled with the new airport and The Palm Jumeirah and Jebel Ali projects, will sustain this hotel’s high occupancy and yield, be it from individual, corporate, group conferences, long-term guest, or leisure travellers,” Tamim said. Exisiting Movenpick properties are also expanding, in the wake of increased demand. This year, the Mövenpick Resort & Spa El Gouna, Egypt, added 115 new rooms and suites, as well as new spa and wellness facilities. dubaiflo November 4th, 2005, 11:48 AM again, if oceana will be built, not sure honestly. oh just noticed it does not have to be part of oceana but another "oceana", which would be quite stupid. Chad November 4th, 2005, 05:03 PM Where exactly in The Plam?, on it's trunk? dubaiflo November 4th, 2005, 05:07 PM nowhere in the plam but in the palm ;) i guess it must be on the crescent, the trunk is already fully occupied. Polarbear November 9th, 2005, 10:41 PM Should a 2 million dirham villa look like this? Wednesday, 09 November 2005 Residents of Nakheel’s Jumeirah Islands development allege poor quality finishing and the use of cheap materials at the multi-million dirham luxury villa development. Matthew Brown reports. “When my wife first walked into the kitchen of our Jumeirah Islands home she burst into tears. ‘It’s terrible,’ she said. It broke my heart, because I had promised her a dream home.” Mr A is a resident at Jumeirah Islands, the “upscale and exclusive” development from Nakheel, the government-owned company behind The Palms and The World, that stretches over 300 hectares of land between junctions five and six of Sheikh Zayed Road. And he thinks his villa is anything but a dream home. He is one of 70 or so people to have taken possession of a JI villa, which will eventually house more than 700 families, each of whom paid between dhs1.9 million and dhs2.4 million for their properties in the primary market, or up to double that in the secondary market. But some of those families are refusing to move in until Nakheel attends to major quality control problems that have affected the development. Many of those who have already moved in are in dispute with Nakheel over major snagging issues, and have formed a residents committee to take its complaints to Nakheel, which has thus far failed to address the majority of issues, according to documents obtained by 7DAYS and the testimonies of several residents. Mr A’s list of complaints are typical of Jumeirah Islands’ residents: “My house has been flooded three times. I had no phone, fax or TV for three weeks after I moved in. Today the telephones only work a fraction of the time, and the Internet, provided by Tecom at twice the price of Etisalat, regularly fails. To pay the bill I have to go to Internet City with cash. “Workmen come onto our property uninvited all the time. The whole Jumeirah Islands site stinks, because workers were not provided with toilets for three years. There are rodents everywhere. “The plans I signed off on do not match the final villa I received. French windows and terraces have been cancelled and a bath has been replaced with a shower in one bathroom. “In the letters we were sent explaining why there were such considerable delays, we were told it was because the quality would be improved. In fact, the finishes are worse than was originally specified.” 7DAYS visited Mr A’s villa and witnessed poor finishing, and the use of cheap materials. The front door of the villa was a poor fit to the frame; the plaster in many of the walls was blown, and cracks were on most of the walls, causing plaster to fall out in some cases. There were holes in the marble floor, scratched and stained marble in the downstairs bathroom, and the false ceilings in the bathroom jumped when the door was opened. 7DAYS saw more problems than we have space to fit into this article, and similar issues in three other villas. “If you bought a car and the leather was ripped and the bodywork was scratched, you wouldn’t accept it,” said Mr A. Mr S moved into his place in August of this year, and is also very unhappy: “We were promised a prestigious development, but so far the development has been below the standards of normal residential complexes carried out in Dubai. “It seems that Nakheel has done some value engineering to the finishes and the quality of the materials has been downgraded from what I was originally promised,” he continued. “The finishes need a lot of repairs to be done. Nakheel can and should do better. We want them to pay more attention to the snags in the finishes, such as the paint on the aluminium in the bathroom, tiles badly fitted and unpolished in the bathroom, poor internal plasterwork and paint finish throughout, as it was done by unskilled labour.” Jumeirah Islands is being delivered 18 months late, and a number of letters were sent out to future residents, explaining why. “We are delighted to advise that the wondrous Jumeirah Islands project has so appealed to buyers...that it is completely sold out,” said one letter dated June 2004. “Seeking excellence in all that we do, Nakheel sought ways and means of further enhancing the quality of layout of, and the finishes and materials used in, your home in Jumeirah Islands. You will soon receive details of all the improvements that have been agreed - all at no cost to you.” On page two of the letter it read: “all of the above improvements and services have resulted in a delay in the completion of the project, which is now scheduled for May 2005. We assure you that this delivery date will be met.” The first villas were not delivered until August 2005. One of the key complaints by residents has been the poor communication from Nakheel. “Trying to get answers out of Nakheel, SERCO (hand-over managers), Clifton Coony (project managers), or Semcomb (contractor) has been very difficult,” says Mr S. “We don’t know who to talk to about snags occurring in different parts of the house.” The complaints about dealing with Nakheel is reiterated by a major insititutional buyer of property in the UAE. “Nakheel sales people’s calibre is not high,” he told 7DAYS. “They are not able to sensibly talk about numbers at any competent level. Trying to assess what you were buying is difficult to say the least, regardless of who you’re talking to. “Nakheel constantly makes commitments that aren’t kept. Nakheel does not communicate any problems. Their standard response when you go to their office is that they’re working on it.” In an attempt to make meaningful contact with Nakheel a committee has been elected by JI residents to act as an intermediary. When approached by 7DAYS, the committee said that they were not ready to talk to the press. The residents that 7DAYS did talk to, however, found it difficult to contain their disappointment. “If it was completed as per the original concept plan, JI will be one of the best developments in the UAE,” said Mr S. Nakheel declined to comment despite repeated requests from 7DAYS to respond to residents’ claims. dubaiflo November 9th, 2005, 11:07 PM i am sure nakheel WILL finally comment this , saying all of this will be improved and repaired and only a few villas suffer from these problems... i also doubt the palm will have the same problems somehow.. just because i don't know.. it is sooo prestigious for dubai and nakheel ,they cannot fail there. dubayyy November 10th, 2005, 01:26 AM like many i was very disappointed with the Jumeirah Islands article in 7 Days - and shocked at Nakheel for allowing such a thing to happen - the least they could do is make some comment to reassure buyers that all will be sorted out - by choosing to stay silent nakheel are doing themselves untold damage. however i fear that much of this was due to the legacy left behind by the previous management. i have a large investment on Palm Jumeirah and like many bought into the smart marketing and fancy animations - nakheel cannot afford to mess this one up and now with James Wilson on board as CEO I am hoping that they get their act together for PJ. palm owners are awaiting handover of their properties with great anticipation - the expectation is immense - and if similiar stories arise when villas/apartments on PJ are handed over then i fear the whole dubai real estate boom will deflate very quickly - a great part of the dubai story was built on the back of PJ i cannot help wondering if this whole sorry experience will lead to many PJ owners dumping stock prior to completion. i understand that nakheel are currently in the process of procuring finishing items (faucets/tiles/kitchens etc) for PJ properties - they cannot afford to skimp even if it costs them - and just as importantly they must ensure they are fitted to the highest standards what really irritates me is nakheels's inability to communicate updates to property owners - their after sales service leaves much to be desired - look at their website it is at least 18 months out of date. lets hope they take something positive from this experience malec November 10th, 2005, 02:36 AM I have a feeling something like this will happen on palm jum aswell. Even now, the density of the housing will piss off a lot of people who thought they bought their dream homes Polarbear November 10th, 2005, 06:45 AM Immediate and strong action is required by Nakheel and the whatever regulatory body involved to satisfy the Jumeirah Island residents. This story alone won’t damage the market, but if it is the beginning of a series, it will slow foreign investment and subsequently real estate appreciation. Nakheel can’t afford for stories like this to start showing up in the UK and German media. If you read the article, one thing that is not in doubt is that Nakheel blatantly lied to Jumeirah Island owners about the reasons for the 18 month delay in delivering villas. It’s not an egregious lie, but it is a lie that they were delaying delivery to upgrade finishes --- at no cost to you. In situations like this I usually hold to the cockroach theory. Cockroaches don’t travel alone, and when you see one, you can rest assured that there are many more in hiding. What else is Nakheel lying about? I only hope Nakheel doesn’t take an offensive response. If Nakheel comes out of the box denying most of the residents claims and tries to discredit the buyers in the press, that would be telltale that it is time to bail on all of the Nakheel projects. Nakheel needs to make a quick response and absolutely kill themselves to make the residents whole. Dubai-Lover November 10th, 2005, 08:45 AM hopefully some people from nakheel know what they're doing i wish they read this here, the opinion of the normal guy!!! malec November 10th, 2005, 10:16 AM Immediate and strong action is required by Nakheel and the whatever regulatory body involved to satisfy the Jumeirah Island residents. This story alone won’t damage the market, but if it is the beginning of a series, it will slow foreign investment and subsequently real estate appreciation. Nakheel can’t afford for stories like this to start showing up in the UK and German media. If you read the article, one thing that is not in doubt is that Nakheel blatantly lied to Jumeirah Island owners about the reasons for the 18 month delay in delivering villas. It’s not an egregious lie, but it is a lie that they were delaying delivery to upgrade finishes --- at no cost to you. In situations like this I usually hold to the cockroach theory. Cockroaches don’t travel alone, and when you see one, you can rest assured that there are many more in hiding. What else is Nakheel lying about? I only hope Nakheel doesn’t take an offensive response. If Nakheel comes out of the box denying most of the residents claims and tries to discredit the buyers in the press, that would be telltale that it is time to bail on all of the Nakheel projects. Nakheel needs to make a quick response and absolutely kill themselves to make the residents whole. Exactly :cheers: Punjabi Mafia November 10th, 2005, 10:22 AM why is there a problem everytime with nakheel Des November 10th, 2005, 11:44 AM The whole Jumeirah Islands site stinks, because workers were not provided with toilets for three years. There are rodents everywhere. OMG Dubai_Boy November 10th, 2005, 12:20 PM These companies are after one thing , MONEY MONEY MONEY. Its a shame they dont care about the well being of the city and its people How shamefull dubaiflo November 10th, 2005, 12:51 PM agree it is all about money but the have to change this for the sake of dubai's future. and i also hope nakheel does not come up with offending response, but say they will improve and change this, and hopefully even do it finally. malec November 10th, 2005, 06:36 PM This is where I think the media comes into play. Before, they could get away with abusing workers but since it has hit the headlines, a lot has been done, probably because they figured they'd save money that way. I'm hoping that the same thing happens here. If we see more and more news about this quality thing then there's no way Nakheel will make any money in the future if they continue to rip people off like this Emir of Ketir November 12th, 2005, 06:55 PM Nakheel, compared to Emaar, is a joke. Its a badly run company with a useless management team and bribery levels unseen anywhere in corporate Dubai. Jose_Armando November 12th, 2005, 06:57 PM A large percentage of Dubai developments are a joke in terms of quality. Emir of Ketir November 12th, 2005, 07:02 PM What is a large percentage?? Thats a sweeping statement. Emaar developments are superior in quality to many real estate developments in the industrialized world. Jose_Armando November 12th, 2005, 07:03 PM I dunno what large is.. but large is Nakheel's share of the property development in Dubai. malec November 12th, 2005, 07:28 PM I dunno what large is.. but large is Nakheel's share of the property development in Dubai. Exactly. If you take palm deira and the waterfront then that's basically Dubai 2. I can't imagine what it would be like if half the city will be built Nakheel style. dubaiflo November 12th, 2005, 07:43 PM i am sure even nakheel will learn from this. no doubt at all. Its a badly run company with a useless management team.. at least they changed it now. Polarbear November 13th, 2005, 06:42 AM This is from a Q&A in the latest newsletter on the oryx website. http://www.oryxrealestate.com/index.php I have just purchased a property in the Springs development. At the time of transfer, because the property was ready for occupation, I paid one year’s service charge to Emaar in advance, which was what I was told I had to pay. I was informed that the service charges covered such things as the maintenance to the communal areas, bin collection, road sweeping and lighting, etc. I have now had my first water and electricity bill from DEWA and am horrified to see that I have almost AED 500 added to it per month as a Housing Fee. When I spoke to DEWA they told me it was for the bin collection and road lighting, cleaning etc. Is this True? From Brian – Dubai I am aware of this because I have just received my first bill from DEWA too, and like you, made immediate enquiries of DEWA only to be told the same thing. I then approached the Municipality and eventually spoke to one of the managers who informed me that the government tax had been in existence for ten years, but before 1st January, 2005, not everybody paid it. She also informed me that the tax was to cover things like all the roads, underground services etc in the area, although she did become vague when I asked her for the second time if it also covered bin collection and street lighting. Nobody minds paying tax to cover such things. They are an essential part of quality of life. But I am at a loss as to why we are seemingly being penalised for owning our own properties and am furious about it. It does appear that we are being asked to pay twice for the same services and unless someone tells me otherwise, something is going to have to be done about it. My documents with Emaar clearly state what the service charges are for and so if they are charging for those services when it is the government who imposes them, Emaar will not be paid. Perhaps somebody out there is able to throw some better light on the subject. what? November 13th, 2005, 09:00 AM Hey guys,been so long and finally decided to register in this great website.I love it,by the way how is it going with the palm j. dubaiflo November 17th, 2005, 12:38 AM http://tinypic.com/ftncrm.jpg villas http://tinypic.com/ftned2.jpg garden homes are too dense but signature villas seem well spaced farnush November 17th, 2005, 04:17 AM i like the proximity ...m ore warmth among the neighbours Dubai-Lover November 17th, 2005, 07:16 AM they could at least have planned for 2 villas less each frond that would have helped it's ok, but for these prices it's like mass-housing farnush November 17th, 2005, 08:16 AM dont u like to peep into ur neighbours house every once a while..... hehe malec November 17th, 2005, 09:53 AM Will there be any space left for greenery? Stephan23 November 17th, 2005, 10:15 AM Looks like a chick farm :-) dubaiflo November 17th, 2005, 12:19 PM all the area around the houses will be green but i agree with D-L only two or three garden homes less on each frond and it would have been much better. Dubai-Lover November 17th, 2005, 12:20 PM this shows dubai is all about money at the moment nothing else look at jbr, money, money, money and more money everybody wants as much money as possible juiced November 17th, 2005, 01:02 PM (starts singing the Money Money Money song from The Apprentice) Bram November 17th, 2005, 01:09 PM no green?,if you have green enough you can buy 2 homes next to each other and pull one home down for your garden :) Dubai_Boy November 17th, 2005, 02:18 PM Would it not be perfect if they shot a few episodes of "desperate house wives" on the palm jumierah :D the setting is perfect dubaiflo November 17th, 2005, 04:11 PM do you actually watch this .. :runaway: dennis agree with you, this is the only thing that counts, they cannot have enough. but isn't that the same everywhere. nevertheless it is wrong and i am 100% sure they will be in trouble because of this in the near future. hopefully nakheel etc are willing to learn and improve things. Dubai-Lover November 17th, 2005, 04:30 PM sure, that's the case everywhere i'm sure this situation will improve in a few years, once the economy is more grown up and established certain things are refreshingly unbureaucratic while other things take you back to the middle ages (eg: medical test at hospital for your residence visa) the government technically is able to change things from one day to another, but that's not really happening many people in dubai are complaining because rents and property prices are very high compared to the average salary and income if the salaries increased a bit it would make the situation much better overall, i have a positive and optimistic impression and opinion about dubai. i know it's not perfect, but you need to give a city time to learn and to establish anyway, that's not the topic here ;) Bahraini Spirit November 19th, 2005, 02:29 PM http://tinypic.com/ftncrm.jpg villas http://tinypic.com/ftned2.jpg garden homes are too dense but signature villas seem well spaced Dang, that's too tight, not good for privacy. Dubai_Boy November 19th, 2005, 05:13 PM I need to work on getting a perfect body , rob a bank :D buy one of these places , and run up and down the beach naked every morning :) i might get a hot 35 year old lady with experience nocking on my door LOL Ok enough with the day dreaming , i agree , this place is too TIGHT ! dubaiflo November 19th, 2005, 05:36 PM i thought drugs are banned in dubai? Dubai_Boy November 19th, 2005, 05:56 PM Not in AD :D Ben_Burj November 19th, 2005, 08:30 PM I need to work on getting a perfect body , rob a bank :D buy one of these places , and run up and down the beach naked every morning :) i might get a hot 35 year old lady with experience nocking on my door LOL You might also be unlucky and have a RAK transvestite nock your door :runaway: :runaway: :D:D:D Dubai_boy how many times did I tell that drinking fermented sauerkraut juice will get you drunk? :D:D Alle November 19th, 2005, 10:21 PM maybe it will look better when htey put some green there. Still thight though, should be good with a park here and there. Open Road November 20th, 2005, 09:31 AM It looks a lot like some of the housing options on the west coast of the US (san diego, LA) or some of the stuff you see down in Florida. Very packed. I guess if you have all that sand and sun and water it just doesn't matter. I'd still give up my shit-box apartment for one. juiced November 20th, 2005, 03:21 PM That density is terrible for what is supposed to be the eight wonder of the Palm. I guess Palm homeowners are in for a bigger shock than Jumeirah Islands ones ;) malec November 20th, 2005, 03:24 PM The thing is, it would all be fine if they didn't advertise the place as being paradise one Earth, etc... juiced November 20th, 2005, 03:31 PM Exactly. And those miniature models showing entire jungles between every house and so on. Its one very big marketing hype and when the shit hits the fan on handover date, blood will boil, especially if any high profile homeowners aren't happy. malec November 20th, 2005, 04:05 PM Another picture of the villas: http://www.jp-petit.com/humour/Dubai/villas_en_construction.gif A render I found that's the closest to what is actually there in terms of density. http://www.jp-petit.com/humour/Dubai/villas_palm.gif malec November 20th, 2005, 04:09 PM A massive render: :eek: http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/180/showimgsalesasp9sx.th.jpg (http://img145.imageshack.us/my.php?image=showimgsalesasp9sx.jpg) juiced November 20th, 2005, 04:39 PM Another picture of the villas: http://www.jp-petit.com/humour/Dubai/villas_en_construction.gif A render I found that's the closest to what is actually there in terms of density. http://www.jp-petit.com/humour/Dubai/villas_palm.gif That is actually The Meadows! Imagine that, cheaper villas without as many "luxury fittings" but the same density as supposedly ultraluxurious, out of this planet mansions out on the sea. Oh, blood is definitely going to spill.. malec November 20th, 2005, 04:50 PM Well, this is Nakheel afterall ;) I think the designs of the villas on palm jum are nicer though. Hopefully they won't fall apart :D BinDubai November 22nd, 2005, 02:53 PM i agree with Bahraini Spirit :s that was what i didnt want it to end to AltinD November 27th, 2005, 02:04 AM The Trunk: http://tinypic.com/hurtxx.jpg http://tinypic.com/huru6w.jpg AltinD November 27th, 2005, 02:05 AM Villas: http://tinypic.com/huruie.jpg AltinD November 27th, 2005, 02:07 AM ... later on. http://tinypic.com/huruv6.jpg http://tinypic.com/hurv2a.jpg Salty November 28th, 2005, 10:02 PM Thanks for posting up the shots of the Shoreline Apartments AltinD. Nice to see them growing steadily. I think they are actually working on our floor on the Al Tamr building. Looks like we own some concrete at last! Also good to see the sea quite blowy and fresh looking. Once the haul road is removed beside the link bridge to shore the water will probably circulate well and regain its condition prior to all that dredging. :okay: Tom_Green December 1st, 2005, 08:30 PM How many people will live on the palm ? Emir of Ketir December 3rd, 2005, 02:35 PM Guess this was a purely political decision brought about by Istithmar. I wonder whether Al Naboodah has the capacity to take on any more projects, Dubai Int. Airport, Dubai Mall to name the largest projects. Kerzner ditches Leighton on Palm Atlantis project by Angela Giuffrida Contractor Leighton has been ditched by Kerzner International on the US $1.2 billion Atlantis project on the Palm Jumeirah. The Australian contractor had signed a pre-construction agreement with the hospitality group to build two hotels on the massive offshore island development in Dubai. But now Kerzner has decided to award the $600 million package to Al Naboodah Laing O’Rourke instead. The contractor will also oversee the construction management of the rest of the project, which includes building the largest ever water theme park in the Middle East. “Leighton fulfilled an agreement and they did a good job; it was just that in the long-term, they didn’t fit into the overall scheme of what we’re trying to achieve,” said Kerzner International president Jim Boocher. “A pre-construction agreement was also signed with Al Naboodah Laing O’ Rourke, who will now do the building work on the hotels and later, manage the construction for the rest of the project.” The contract is made up of two hotel buildings of 23 and 18 storeys, together accommodating 2000 rooms, as well as facilities for conferences. Other contract packages for the water theme park, which is modelled on a similar project undertaken by Kerzner International in the Bahamas, are yet to be finalised. Boocher added that for a project of this scale, it was important to involve the right people from the very start. “We’re in the process of putting the upper tier project management system in place and will be looking for a number of contractors, but the packages aren’t ready to be tendered and awarded,” he said. “There is so much detail in the building structure that it won’t be entirely straightforward. We want to make sure that contractors really understand what needs to be done.” The project is a joint venture between Kerzner International and Istithmar PJSC, a subsidiary of Dubai Government’s Port, Customs and Free Zone Corporation. The water theme park, which will have the capacity to welcome 6000 guests per day, is expected to feature unique water attractions, including one of the world’s largest marine habitats, a snorkel trail and other marine-based attractions. The resort is expected to be ready for opening by late 2008. Leighton declined to comment. Richard Head December 3rd, 2005, 07:19 PM Salty, Where are you in al tamr? I'm on 10th floor, E type. Thanks for posting up the shots of the Shoreline Apartments AltinD. Nice to see them growing steadily. I think they are actually working on our floor on the Al Tamr building. Looks like we own some concrete at last! Also good to see the sea quite blowy and fresh looking. Once the haul road is removed beside the link bridge to shore the water will probably circulate well and regain its condition prior to all that dredging. :okay: Salty December 3rd, 2005, 10:12 PM Salty, Where are you in al tamr? I'm on 10th floor, E type. We'll be on the 9th floor in an F type. I'm gradually getting over the disappointment of the 6 month delay and my excitement is starting to build again gradually. There's obviously still a lot of work to do before we can take possession, but it should be less than a year now! Drop me a PM if you want a more detailed chat about things (furnishing arrangements, rental plans etc). It would be very useful to talk over these sorts of matters with someone else who is in the same position. Come November, we'll be able to chat face to face at our Beach Club on the trunk. Regards, Salty Dubai-Lover December 5th, 2005, 05:49 PM Island Global Yachting (IGY) partners with Nakheel to build and operate world-class marinas in Dubai Two of the leading innovators in luxury waterfront property development have come together to develop and build up to 40,000 slips in new luxury marina facilities in Dubai, the fastest growing region of waterfront development in the world. http://www.ameinfo.com/images/news/1/19951-The.jpg The World Island Global Yachting Ltd. ('IGY'), a leading developer and manager of luxury marina facilities, and Nakheel, Dubai's premier property development firm, have signed an agreement whereby IGY will provide comprehensive design, development and management services to all Nakheel marina properties and developments in Dubai. IGY is now the exclusive provider of design, development and management services for all Nakheel marina properties, including its signature developments - The Palm Islands, The World, and Dubai Waterfront, the largest waterfront development in the world. Separately, Istithmar, a subsidiary of Nakheel, announced that it is a founding partner of IGY (it owns approximately 25% of the equity) and is also an investor in Yacht Haven Grande, Island Capital Group's world-class marina facility and mixed use development project in St. Thomas, USVI. IGY was formed to acquire, develop, manage and operate world-class marina facilities around the globe. IGY is an affiliate of Island Capital Group LLC , a real estate oriented investment banking firm controlled by Andrew L. Farkas, the founder, and, until July 2003, the chairman and chief executive officer, of Insignia Financial Group, Inc. Mr. Farkas formed Island after successfully merging Insignia into CB Richard Ellis creating the largest real estate services firm in the world. Andrew Farkas, CEO of Island Capital Group said, 'We are excited about the expansion of our partnership with Nakheel, whose visionary projects and renowned developments have established Dubai as a new world-class destination for business and luxury tourism. Our partnership will pave the way for potentially more than 40,000 new marina slips, which will establish Dubai as a global yachting destination and facilitate the growth of the marina industry in the Middle East.' This partnership will create an extraordinary opportunity for worldwide marina manufacturers, developers and service providers to contribute their expertise to and benefit from this unparalleled waterfront development in Dubai. Nakheel currently has $30 billion worth of projects under development, which will add 1,500 km (approximately 932 miles) of waterfront property to Dubai once they are completed. There are currently only 1,000 boat berths in Dubai; it is projected that upon completion of all the waterfront projects more than 40,000 boat berths will be required to meet demand. IGY and its affiliates presently have numerous major facilities under development or management including Yacht Haven Grande (St. Thomas, USVI), Isle De Sol (St. Maarten, Netherlands Antilles), Port de Plaisance (St. Maarten, Netherlands Antilles), and Portofino (St. Maarten, Netherlands Antilles). In addition, IGY has entered into agreements with various partners to acquire, develop and manage facilities in the Bahamas, including a new mega-yacht marina facility to be developed adjacent to the cruise ship docks in Nassau, The Bahamas. IGY's St. Maarten subsidiary, Caribbean Marine Management and Consulting N.V. offers a platform of Caribbean-based personnel with significant experience in management, design and development of mega-yacht marina facilities. IGY and its affiliates (including companies contracted to be acquired by IGY) employ more than120 marine engineers, designers, development executives, retail leasing professionals and management professionals throughout the Eastern Caribbean, the continental United States and the UAE. Sultan Ahmed Bin Sulayem, Executive Chairman Nakheel said, 'IGY has the proven ability to envision and execute innovative, state-of-the-art marina facilities and the financial strength to secure the broad range of industry experts required for ongoing development and management. This makes them the right partner to lead the creation and management of the superior marina facilities that we require for our properties. Together, we will continue the world-class innovation that has set the standard for excellence in both residential and tourism development on the coast of Dubai.' Ali Saeed bin Thalith, General Manager Nakheel Marinas said, "We are delighted to be working in partnership with IGY. Nakheel's unprecedented waterfront developments have created huge demand for marina facilities in Dubai, and Nakheel Marinas is looking to create world class marina facilities that meet the highest standards of quality and functionality. IGY were the natural choice to help achieve this." Alle December 5th, 2005, 05:52 PM From what i've heard about Nakheels lower quality constructions. It atleast can't get worse if they let someone else handle some of the work :P. dubaiflo December 9th, 2005, 02:09 PM http://mishami.image.pbase.com/v3/93/329493/1/50866564.DubaiOct05007.jpg oct 2005 dubai marina makes me so excited. look at this... :eek: Stephan23 December 9th, 2005, 02:20 PM It's from www.pbase.com or I am wrong?? dubaiflo December 9th, 2005, 02:47 PM yepp malec December 9th, 2005, 05:08 PM Great! He's got new pics, time to check the rest out ;) VIAMARE December 10th, 2005, 08:38 PM It seems that they dont fear of criticism... This is ignorance, and is very dangerous for whatever will follow. However, in a short time, a passenger ship is going to park somewhere in the crescent. Will the local friends take some shots and post? BinALAin December 11th, 2005, 10:59 AM http://mishami.image.pbase.com/v3/93/329493/1/50866564.DubaiOct05007.jpg oct 2005 dubai marina makes me so excited. look at this... :eek: hmmm i hate to see dubai from air... Sand + Black city lol ,,, u didnt see it like London or Paris from Air ( green=grass + colors of the city ) dubaiflo December 11th, 2005, 01:04 PM well if you have an aerial shot of deira and bur dubai it will look different. and this shot will also look totally different in 3 years.. Trances December 11th, 2005, 01:35 PM 210 meters for the trump hotel weak juiced December 11th, 2005, 02:17 PM hmmm i hate to see dubai from air... Sand + Black city lol ,,, u didnt see it like London or Paris from Air ( green=grass + colors of the city ) i agree http://mishuna.image.pbase.com/v3/93/329493/1/49851270.BOSSep05023.JPG http://k41.pbase.com/u48/bmcmorrow/upload/30602736.0889.JPG Richard Head December 11th, 2005, 03:39 PM Anyone help me with attaching pics, I have some good ones taken on the Palm but can't attach, if I click on the "insert image" icon I get a popup box called "Explorer user prompt" that says "script prompt, enterthe text to be formatted. Cheers malec December 11th, 2005, 03:43 PM Do this: 1: Go to www.imageshack.us and upload your image there 2: copy the url given (direct link) into your post. 3: put "" before and "" after the url And there you go :cheers: Richard Head December 11th, 2005, 03:48 PM Thanks Malec. For starters, here's one for those who said the Signature Villas have plenty of space around them. These are at the end of a frond so probably changing hands at around 12 million !!!!! http://img491.imageshack.us/img491/1377/img04060gx.jpg dubaiflo December 11th, 2005, 04:43 PM well it is reasonable if you think of how big the villas themselves are. though it could be more, no doubt. the villas themselve look absolutely amazing...! Dubai-Lover December 11th, 2005, 04:52 PM not bad nice design and well advanced status Dubai-Lover December 11th, 2005, 04:52 PM Nakheel signs MoU with EHS to enforce safety regulations at The Palm Jumeirah The Environment, Health and Safety (EHS) Department today signed a Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) with Nakheel to enforce safety regulations at the Dubai-based property developer's prestigious The Palm Jumeirah project. http://www.ameinfo.com/images/news/2/20152-nakheel.jpg Mr. James Wilson, CEO of Nakheel. Formerly a business unit of Dubai Ports, Customs and Free Zone Corporation, the EHS was recently restructured to become a full-fledged wing, in view of the widening scope of the department's activities and the high standards of service it has been providing to the industry and the public. As part of the restructuring process, Ahmed Abdul Hussain was appointed CEO of EHS. The MoU was signed between James Wilson, CEO of Nakheel, and Ahmed Abdul Hussain, CEO of EHS at the Sheraton, Jumeirah. With this MoU, EHS officially assumes responsibility for safety at The Palm Jumeirah, and will be in charge of safety enforcement in the all Nakheel projects construction in accordance with legal requirements. A team of EHS safety professionals will be based at the project site, working closely with Nakheel's Programme Management Team. EHS will undertake regular site safety reviews and measure the performance of the contractors engaged with the project against statutory requirements. In the event of any contractor's performance being found to be below the legally required level, the EHS team will identify areas for improvement and outline timescales for corrective or preventive action to be taken. 'EHS has a proven track record in efficiently enforcing safety regulations. By assigning the responsibility for safety of The Palm Jumeirah to a credible organization like EHS, Nakheel can be confident that the project meets the most stringent safety prescriptions,' said James Wilson. 'Across its projects, Nakheel accords the highest priority to the aspects of safety and environmental protection, and we will work together with EHS to ensure that The Palm Jumeirah adheres to strict safety norms.' Commenting on the MoU, EHS CEO Ahmed Abdul Hussain said, 'The agreement with Nakheel marks an important step in EHS' operations. The Palm Jumeirah is a landmark project; and Nakheel's decision to entrust us with the project's safety indicates the confidence they have in our ability to meticulously enforce the prescribed safety regulations. EHS will carry out regular inspections and ensure continuous monitoring of all aspects of construction at The Palm Jumeirah, making sure that all legal requirements are met.' malec December 11th, 2005, 05:22 PM Good news. Anyway, those signature villas look pretty good I think, plenty of space too. Just one thing though, I wish the exterior finishes would be more textured. This is for most villa developments in Dubai not just this one. Salty December 11th, 2005, 10:18 PM Lovely photo. Ebenzer Scrooge December 12th, 2005, 03:30 PM From that October 2005 satellite picture, it looks as though the Palm Jebel Ali is almost fully reclaimed. The official website is very outdated in its "status" section for both the Palm Jumeirah and Jebel Ali. Does anyone know the percentage of progress of either reclamation in any of the three palm islands, and the percentage of progress of construction in the fully reclaimed ones? Stephan23 December 15th, 2005, 10:26 AM Palm Jumreirah monorail awarded to Japanese firms 15-Dec-2005 Nakheel, the Dubai-based real estate company awarded a Japanese consortium the $390 million contract to set up a monorail system in Palm Jumeirah. The monorail will begin to function in December 2008. Along with Trading house Marubeni Corp, Hitachi and Obayashi Corp., had won a contract to build a monorail system in Dubai for $390 million from Nakheel. The monorail will be used internally in Palm Jumeirah and cover the entire island. Nakheel, Dubai’s leading real estate developer has three Palm Islands in the works Deira, Jumeirah and Jebel Ali. It is also building a collection of islands called The World. Nakheel’s other real estate projects in Dubai includes Al Burj, which will be the tallest tower in the world and not Emaar’s Burj Dubai. Nakheel sold Dh25 billion worth of residential and commercial units through 14 projects during the past two years. Dubai-Lover December 15th, 2005, 11:29 AM stephan don't change news articles!!! Japanese firms will set up monorail in Palm Jumeirah By Mohammad Ezz AL Deen, Staff Reporter Dubai: Property developer Nakheel yesterday awarded a Japanese consortium the $390 million contract to set up a monorail system in Palm Jumeirah, said a senior company official. Nakheel was confirming reports from Japan. Trading house Marubeni Corp said yesterday that it, along with Hitachi and Obayashi Corp., had won a contract to build a monorail system in Dubai for $390 million from Nakheel. The Japanese company said the monorail system is planned to start operating in December 2008. The official also said the monorail will be used internally in Palm Jumeirah and cover the entire island. Nakheel, one of region's leading developers, has three Palm Islands in the works Deira, Jumeirah and Jebel Ali. It is also building a collection of islands called The World. Nakheel has announced recently that it has a tower, Al Burj, in the works that will rival Emaar's Burj Dubai for the title of the world's highest building. Nakheel sold Dh25 billion worth of residential and commercial units through 14 projects during the past two years. anyway, this is good news now what do they mean by it will cover the whole island, will it also have stations on the crescent? dubaiflo December 15th, 2005, 12:46 PM think so, i hope they won't have stations on all of the fronts ;) Stephan23 December 15th, 2005, 03:55 PM I don't change it!!!!!!!!!! dubaiflo December 15th, 2005, 04:31 PM he does indeed not, this is from http://www.gowealthy.com/realestate/news/738/detail.asp Stephan23 December 15th, 2005, 04:44 PM THX Flo Dubai-Lover December 15th, 2005, 05:36 PM :lol: the article is almost the same, bu gowealthy changed the sentence with al burj and tallest building :rofl: dubaiflo December 15th, 2005, 06:05 PM irah and Jebel Ali. It is also building a collection of islands called The World. Nakheel’s other real estate projects in Dubai includes Al Burj, which will be the tallest tower in the world and not Emaar’s Burj Dubai. this sentence is so ridiculous :lol: if they would have added a smily with its tongue out... :runaway: pakboy December 17th, 2005, 01:45 PM wat is the completion date for this palm juiced December 17th, 2005, 01:59 PM wat is the completion date for this palm You ought to be banned for having the nerve to not read the first post of this thread :bash: crazyevildude December 17th, 2005, 06:29 PM You ought to be banned for having the nerve to not read the first post of this thread :bash: A tad harsh don't ya think? ;). From the first post: and is expected to be completed by late 2006 I'm assuming it is all on schedule as far as we're aware? dubaiflo December 17th, 2005, 07:45 PM the main part is done by end 2006 maybe, but everything not before 2008. e.g atlantis and trump hotel Dubai-Lover December 17th, 2005, 08:10 PM by end of 2006 all vilas will be done as well as the shoreline apartments the rest will still be heavily under c dubaiflo December 18th, 2005, 02:16 AM http://www.nakheel.ae/cm/media/developments/palm-jumeirah-2.jpg i like the mall :cheers: http://www.nakheel.ae/cm/media/gallery/Aerial-001744.jpg maltster December 19th, 2005, 05:34 PM http://www.nakheel.ae/cm/media/developments/palm-jumeirah-2.jpg i like the mall :cheers: http://www.nakheel.ae/cm/media/gallery/Aerial-001744.jpg The canal seems to be a lot narrower than I expected. Bit disappointing. People with upper floor apartments aren't going to have much of a view of it Dubai-Lover December 19th, 2005, 06:22 PM ah good you talk about it you finally can see the walls for the canals looks to be like 15-20m wide dubaiflo December 19th, 2005, 06:33 PM looks like in the latest models though. http://tinypic.com/dxe54y.jpg btw what's the red dot on the right side, middle of the trunk? http://www.nakheel.ae/cm/media/gallery/Aerial-001744.jpg juiced December 19th, 2005, 06:45 PM A used sanitary pad. dubaiflo December 19th, 2005, 07:00 PM :weird: juiced, i cannot remember your last sensible comment, honestly... docc December 19th, 2005, 08:10 PM Juiced, i certainly dont want to meet the woman who used THAT sanitary pad :D Tom_Green December 19th, 2005, 09:11 PM The tower is incredible ugly >_< They should build something else. maltster December 20th, 2005, 09:43 AM ah good you talk about it you finally can see the walls for the canals looks to be like 15-20m wide Thought I read somewhere that it was supposed to be 50m wide! Still,my lower floor type F should afford me a half decent view, hopefully. Salty December 20th, 2005, 12:33 PM Yep. 50 metres is what the literature says. We'll have the best of both worlds. You'll be looking out onto the canal and Golden Mile on the other side, while on the 9th floor we'll be looking out over the top of the Golden Mile apartments to the sea. I suppose we will occasionally look down from the balconies too! Wonder if they will let us swim in the canal? Build a couple of little beaches perhaps? At least some swimming pools in the grounds of the apartment blocks? At worst we'll have to cross the road and go to one of the beach clubs - yep, looks like its going to be tough. :wink2: maltster December 20th, 2005, 04:35 PM Yep. 50 metres is what the literature says. We'll have the best of both worlds. You'll be looking out onto the canal and Golden Mile on the other side, while on the 9th floor we'll be looking out over the top of the Golden Mile apartments to the sea. I suppose we will occasionally look down from the balconies too! Wonder if they will let us swim in the canal? Build a couple of little beaches perhaps? At least some swimming pools in the grounds of the apartment blocks? At worst we'll have to cross the road and go to one of the beach clubs - yep, looks like its going to be tough. :wink2: It would be handy if they would build a few foot-bridges over the canal thus making access to the Golden Mile and the hotels on the other side alot shorter and easier. Cant see anything on the models Salty December 20th, 2005, 05:44 PM This is the only thing I've seen with footbridges ... http://img500.imageshack.us/img500/6788/orchidtower8rq.jpg (http://imageshack.us) Donald seems ahead of the game. Looks like we'll have to wander across to the bars, restaurants and shops via the Trump Tower's bars, restaurants and shops! dubaiflo December 20th, 2005, 06:03 PM Wonder if they will let us swim in the canal? Build a couple of little beaches perhaps? At least some swimming pools in the grounds of the apartment blocks? At worst we'll have to cross the road and go to one of the beach clubs - yep, looks like its going to be tough. :wink2: be sure they won't .. .:hahaha: Salty December 20th, 2005, 06:14 PM They'll probably put a couple of guillotine gates on the ends and pump it dry from time to time so we can enjoy a bit of skateboarding too. You'd have to be careful though when diving in for your morning swim... :badnews: :rofl: dubaiflo December 22nd, 2005, 06:09 PM by pearl of the gulf http://tinypic.com/iyq100.jpg Alt-Tab December 23rd, 2005, 01:38 PM Salaamz, Just got this through from Nakheel, its their newsletter for their customers, I will post the rest later after Jumma... http://img364.imageshack.us/img364/6901/palmlife12nv.jpg http://img472.imageshack.us/img472/6466/palmlife1a7fo.jpg AltTab Alt-Tab December 23rd, 2005, 03:10 PM http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/3370/palmlifepage11sd.jpg http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/7306/palmlifepage22vc.jpghttp://img378.imageshack.us/img378/6909/palmlifepage30jr.jpg dubaiflo December 23rd, 2005, 03:14 PM 100.000 residents for palm jumeirah :eek: Alt-Tab December 23rd, 2005, 03:19 PM http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/3518/palmlifepage48fz.jpghttp://img378.imageshack.us/img378/3246/palmlifepage54kc.jpg http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/9584/palmlifepage64qr.jpghttp://img378.imageshack.us/img378/8199/palmlifepage72yu.jpg http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/986/palmlifepage80eh.jpg Chad December 23rd, 2005, 03:27 PM I have a question. If I'm interested in The Tulip Tower, which I have to contact? The Nakheel or Trump? Alt-Tab December 23rd, 2005, 03:34 PM http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/6430/palmlifepage91ci.jpg http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/5162/palmlifepage108rn.jpghttp://img375.imageshack.us/img375/5871/palmlifepage116mv.jpg Alt-Tab December 23rd, 2005, 03:37 PM http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/8104/palmlifepage120rj.jpghttp://img375.imageshack.us/img375/1900/palmlifepage130xh.jpg http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/3600/palmlifepage141ml.jpghttp://img375.imageshack.us/img375/9374/palmlifepage158ix.jpg http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/8351/palmlifepage165vn.jpg Alt-Tab December 23rd, 2005, 03:42 PM http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/1429/palmlifepage179cu.jpg http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/8634/palmlifepageback8ua.jpg Alt-Tab December 23rd, 2005, 03:43 PM I have a question. If I'm interested in The Tulip Tower, which I have to contact? The Nakheel or Trump? I dont think they have launched sales for this one yet... malec December 23rd, 2005, 03:47 PM Great stuff!! Don't have time to read all this now but will do later BTW nice renders of trump tulip tower :D dubaiflo December 23rd, 2005, 04:05 PM i like the fish thing. :) interesting, though, of course, written by nakheel .. DUBAI December 23rd, 2005, 04:24 PM I dont think they have launched sales for this one yet... isnt it all hotel? how can they sell that? Alt-Tab December 23rd, 2005, 04:31 PM isnt it all hotel? how can they sell that? from the article :- "will feature 500 apartments a mix of one two and three .... which can be bought to own or rent" Alt-Tab December 23rd, 2005, 04:35 PM Dont forget to add this to your Sky Plus schedule... http://www.discoverychannel.co.uk/_listings/index.shtml?schedule_date=20051228&channel_code=DSUK&language_code=ENG&target_page=/_listings/index.shtml 28th December 2005 12:00 - Mega Builders, Fantasy Islands (Dubai) Megabuilders: Fantasy Islands Off the coast of Dubai in the Gulf of Arabia, two mega-builders are pulling off one of the most ambitious feats of marine engineering the world has ever seen. In this episode, witness the creation of the world's largest man-made islands - three artificial islands built in the shape of a palm tree - which will be the home to a luxurious future city of 100,000 people. When building an island, where do you even begin? Canadian immigrant, Ali Mansour and New Zealander, David Smith have teamed up under the direction of Dubai's property development company, Nakheel, to create this exclusive playland for the world's wealthy elite. This episode follows the marine engineers as they manage a fleet of monster dredger ships and a convoy of mega-trucks moving 14 million tons of rocks to create the world's longest breakwater. These enterprising engineers are designing the 50-km2 islands to withstand earthquakes and they've built the breakwater to help protect the emerging islands against rough seas and erosion. If successful, their work will be instrumental as the tiny emirate re-invents itself as a tourist mecca for the super-rich. http://discoverychannel.ca/on_tv/mega_builders/ Dubai-Lover December 23rd, 2005, 06:54 PM amazing man thanks for posting these too bad there are no detailed info on the trump tower though Salty December 23rd, 2005, 10:22 PM Alt Tab, You always seem to get the Nakheel info. first. Thanks for posting it up - superb. Our newsletter will probably arrive in the New Year. Glad to see the company is improving its communications links at long last. Nakheel also seems to be trying to answer some of the criticisms that have appeared in the press in the last few months almost point by point e.g. monorail to reduce traffic; regular newsletter to improve communications with buyers; the island a magnet for fish life and not a disaster; Nakheel and Trump investing a lot of money in their joint venture etc. Where exactly is this monorail going to run do you know? Not up the side of the canal hopefully. As a Shoreline Apartment owner I'm beginning to feel a bit of second-class citizen when compared to the villa buyers. Apartment owners (unlike villa buyers) are not given kitchen, tiling and bathroom fitting options, and now it seems we will not be given the option to have the Opus Sound System installed either. It's always so much better to have cabling etc run before walls and flooring are finished (plastered etc). Fitting things like flat screen plasma t.v.s and multi-room hi-fis is much more hassle and much more expensive if you try to do it afterwards. Please Nakheel, give us poor old apartment purchasers a few sensible options too. All in all though, for me the excitement is really starting to build. In 2 to 2.5 years I think the Trunk is going to be an awesome place. Salty TowerPower December 24th, 2005, 12:36 AM I still count 38 floors for the Trump Tower. malec December 24th, 2005, 12:51 AM One question. Where will all the residents of the trump tower park their cars? I can't see any carpark, is it inside the tower? Like the night-lights. A bit much but it's definitely to be expected :D One thing I don't like about palm jumeirah though is that it's not very pedestrian friendly. Traffic can't be that bad on the palm itsself so less interchanges and more crossroads, small streets and this kind of thing would make it much more people friendly. The place where huge traffic jams might occur should be the exit onto SZR maybe? Am not sure, can anyone say some more? Aswell, the island might be able to accomodate 100,000 people but there will never be that much. A lot of those houses have been bought as holiday homes so they won't be occupied for most of the year. http://img364.imageshack.us/img364/6901/palmlife12nv.jpg Alt-Tab December 24th, 2005, 02:22 AM I think this building might be the Car Park http://img398.imageshack.us/img398/5532/trumpcarpark0qp.jpg Or there might be a basement/raised lobby level , I think what would be the ground floor on the shoreline apartment buildings is the carpark... The pedestrian residents can walk along the moonlit beach? Dubai-Lover December 24th, 2005, 09:45 AM that most probably is a car park however, i think the car park for this building is included in the podium Dubai-Lover December 24th, 2005, 12:39 PM Japanese land Palm monorail Japanese contractors Marubeni, Hitachi and Obayashi have taken a US $390 million (AED1.4 billion) contract to build a monorail on the Palm Jumeirah. The 5.4 km monorail will be used by residents and visitors to the offshore island, which is currently under construction in Dubai. The monorail is the first of several urban mass transit systems planned around the UAE. Nakheel is also looking at a light rail system to service its planned Dubai Waterfront development. The monorail will link into the Dubai Metro, which is also being built by a consortium including Obayashi. DUBAI December 24th, 2005, 12:45 PM Monorails suck. why not an elevated train insted, they are so much nicer. dubaiflo December 24th, 2005, 12:55 PM we will see how it looks like, malec i agree with you on the 100000 people thing, but let alone the fact there could be 100000 people :eek: and pedestrian friendly, malec the whole golden mile trunk part will have pedestrian walkways it is like a promenade, also the beach side will be a good place to walk. (see render above, left side behind trump) you won't need that much pedestrian streets on the fronds, there are smaller streets anyway, and also the crescent is probably not the place a lot of people will walk except on the beach. malec December 24th, 2005, 01:03 PM It's just for example, when people want to go shopping, they should easily be able to cross the streets. It's just the trunk I'm talking about. I just think it would be better if they created the feeling of a small town dubaiflo December 24th, 2005, 01:12 PM mhm they do , they do, with golden mile! it will be like a beach promenade, but not like a town, agree. also there is a huge facility/entertainment/shopping centre at the end of the trunk. malec December 24th, 2005, 01:29 PM ^^ I hope people won't have to cross freeways and stuff if they just want to walk down the road do some shopping though. scorpion December 25th, 2005, 02:07 AM ^^swim!! 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AltTab dazz December 29th, 2005, 04:05 PM Dubai Discovery Channel Palm Fantasy Islands http://www.mininova.org/tor/186854 DIVX Video704 x 448 260 kbps Audio 128kbps MPEG3 46Mins 3Secs I will keep it shared for a couple of days... AltTab thx a lot!, but where are you? share the file :sleepy: dubaiflo December 29th, 2005, 04:16 PM somebody should explain to me how those bittorrents work and how i can get them to work with a router and wlan. dazz tell me . now :D Alt-Tab December 30th, 2005, 09:47 AM I am also sharing EDonkey Link to Discovery Channel Ski Dome AVI (ed2k://|file|Dubai%20DiscoveryChannel-SkiDubai.avi|723615806|0D6898F4855BCDAC80DD06E1C2B659C1|h=EQU6SPLRF2NPH2DK334R4OWBDORPDK3G|/) EDonkey Link to Fantasy Islands AVI (ed2k://|file|Dubai.Discovery.Channel.Palm.Fantasy.Islands.avi|737153640|36F96596F5469A4CAC2C02CCDB14D49B|h=5RJQJDVB7SK7C3I2MGB5JXAHSZ7TB5MB|/) Im usually on Razorback2 ED2K Server AltTab dazz December 30th, 2005, 12:01 PM Alt-Tab: you have shared 0bytes that file with the torrent! there are 20people and everyone have 0% of file and waiting for you :| Alt-Tab December 30th, 2005, 05:14 PM Alt-Tab: you have shared 0bytes that file with the torrent! there are 20people and everyone have 0% of file and waiting for you :| Dazz I get the following error message:- "Problem connecting to tracker [http://bittorrent-support.com:2710/announce] - <urlopen error timed out>" Thats why deceided to share it on EDonkey.. AltTab DUBAI December 30th, 2005, 07:22 PM http://img445.imageshack.us/img445/3734/dsc014430fo.jpg http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/1053/dsc014264re.jpg http://img465.imageshack.us/img465/8707/dsc014006qc.jpg dubaiflo December 30th, 2005, 08:35 PM some of those shorelines have topped out appearantly. Alt-Tab December 31st, 2005, 04:21 AM Great pictures DUBAI, is that last structure on the crescent? I was trying to figure out which side you have taken the pictures from.. DUBAI December 31st, 2005, 11:17 AM I took the pics from in front of JBR. The last pic shows the cresent, with a bridge and the first structure. More Pics (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=300958) maltster January 3rd, 2006, 09:53 AM Golden Mile Looking at the front cover of that Palm newsletter, does it sem that the Golden Mile apartments have added a couple of floors?? I thought they were only 6 floors high? Also, anyone know why one of the fronds (3rd one up on left) has got nothing built on it yet?? AltinD January 3rd, 2006, 12:08 PM I think they were always advertised as 8 floors dubaiflo January 3rd, 2006, 04:44 PM as far as i know i would also say they said golden mile is 5 and 6 floors.. maybe they added some, more money. Alt-Tab January 6th, 2006, 09:59 AM Golden Mile Looking at the front cover of that Palm newsletter, does it sem that the Golden Mile apartments have added a couple of floors?? I thought they were only 6 floors high? Also, anyone know why one of the fronds (3rd one up on left) has got nothing built on it yet?? Dont forget the ground floor and first floor is commercial space, they will have a higher floor to ceiling height for these 2 floors, then there are 6 residential floors. http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/5853/goldenmile16ec.jpg AltTab AltinD January 6th, 2006, 07:30 PM 06/01/2006 http://tinypic.com/jsecrk.jpg http://tinypic.com/jsedk5.jpg http://tinypic.com/jsedc4.jpg juiced January 6th, 2006, 07:31 PM even if the palm jumeirah homes are denser than expected people will still live there anyway. there are enough status driven, keeping up with the jones sort of people in dubai that will splash out on a palm villa just to have the address. maltster January 9th, 2006, 09:55 AM Article in the 'construction news' section of that Newsletter mentions that one of the apartment blocks has now'topped out' and that the other 21 should all top-out shortly. 22 shoreline apartment blocks??? Thought there were only 20. Where did the other 2 come from?? minime January 9th, 2006, 05:12 PM They are not thaaaaaat great actually.... Unlike some other towers, these did look better on the renders but maybe it is because they are not finished yet? Anyway, I am not too impressed by the flats on this '8th wonder of the world'... Hopefully they get better with the facade but I think they are too dense. dubaiflo January 9th, 2006, 05:56 PM think they are rather well spaced and their shape maximizes views imo. Salty January 9th, 2006, 06:38 PM Agree you with you Flo. Maybe the apartments and hotels will end up being the best buildings on the Palm Jumeirah. Dubai-Lover January 14th, 2006, 06:04 PM Palm workers will live on a ‘converted’ ferry http://www.itp.net/pictures/news/104splash200.gif At sea: A converted ferry, similar to the one above, will be used to accommodate up to 7000 Palm site workers. Up to 7000 workers on the Palm Jumeirah will be forced to live on the decks of a converted passenger ferry, moored alongside the artificial island. Construction Week has learned that the ferry has already set sail from the port of Athens in Greece and is due to arrive in Dubai within the next week. As the project enters its peak construction phase, developer Nakheel and contractors on the site face a logistical nightmare. Moving workers on and off site by road would mean that hundreds of buses would clog the access routes onto the island at the beginning and end of every shift. So Nakheel has taken the radical step of acquiring a passenger ferry to accommodate them. It will be converted to house the thousands of workers set to crowd onto the site in coming months, as the construction of hotels and villas on the island reaches its peak. Marwan Al Qamzi, Nakheel head of procurement and contracts, confirmed that the passenger ferry would be converted into a floating labour camp. He said: “The ship has already left Greece and should take three weeks to arrive in Dubai. “It will take up to another month to modify,” he added. Around 500 construction workers already live in a purpose-built labour camp on site, but their number will increase to around 1000 this week. Al Qamzi said that the workers currently living in the camp would be moved to the ship once it had been re-fitted. As construction work on the Palm moves into its most frentic stage, the developers face a mammoth logistical challenge to ensure the smooth flow of labour and materials onto the site. Hundreds of villas are already under construction, and fit-out work is underway on around 40 apartment buildings that flank the east side of the Palm’s ‘trunk’. Construction has also started on the first of 25 new hotels which will be built on the island — including the US $400 million Palm Trump International Hotel. In addition to the building work already underway, construction will soon start on the $390 million monorail which will run along the trunk of the island. dubaiflo January 14th, 2006, 06:24 PM the monorail and trump tower starting soon. great. but the ferry :runaway: i hope they won't be 5000 workers on this thing, this could end up the worst labour camp ever... we will see. an average huge ferry offers space for maybe... 2000 people. modification etc could make it 3000 .. actually it is a great idea, decreases traffic etc. Face81 January 14th, 2006, 10:12 PM i feel sorry for the workers. :ohno: :ohno: :ohno: Dubai_Boy January 14th, 2006, 10:38 PM 7000 workers killed in fire Ferry blaze kills 7000 workers in the city of Dubai Explosion leaves 20,000 children fatherless Face81 January 14th, 2006, 10:40 PM 7000 workers killed in fire Ferry blaze kills 7000 workers in the city of Dubai Explosion leaves 20,000 children fatherless I can see it happening now. :ohno: dubaiflo January 14th, 2006, 10:55 PM fire on a ferry? Face81 January 14th, 2006, 10:57 PM thats what dubai boy said.... ferry blaze.... Salty January 14th, 2006, 11:14 PM There are thousands of oilfield vessels and commercial ships working in the Gulf and all around the world where six or eight people share small cabins. Climb into your bunk, pull the curtains, switch on your personal stereo, get out your book, and that's you home for the night. Not exactly wonderful but not unbearable either. Hopefully the accomodation on the liner will be pretty good. Good showers, good mess facilities and grub, good laundry arrangements, and a good cleaning regime. If these are all in place, and if they are properly supervised by a quality "camp boss", then the workers should be okay. Nakheel will probably bring in more accomodation barges as required (I can't see one liner managing to accomodate all 7000 workers). I hope this will mean the workers get to relax for longer in their "off" hours (rather than spend a significant chunk of it stuck in traffic jams on their way to out-of-town camps). All in all this is probably a positive development for the guys doing the hard graft. Darth Shemp January 16th, 2006, 05:15 AM Logistical planning has won and lost battles all the way back to the time of ancient Greece. Alexander the Great’s conquests with the Macedonian Army are generally regarded as examples of good logistical planning, while the Russian campaigns of Hitler and Napoleon were a bit of a sham, quite frankly. On the battlefield that is the modern day building site, logistical planning can also mean the difference between success and failure — particularly in this part of the world, where contractors typically have precious little time to mobilise before making a start on site. The developer of the Palm-Jumeirah mega project is now being confronted with the logistical nightmare of ferrying 7000 workers to and from the site every day. ‘Ferrying’ being the operative word, as Nakheel has taken the radical step of converting a passenger ferry to accommodate the hordes of workers, who would otherwise clog the access road onto the project in buses, at the beginning and end of every shift. It seems difficult to decide if it’s a great idea or a recipe for disaster. Using the ferry as a floating labour camp will certainly reduce the number of traffic movements on site, which will free up more space for delivering materials, readymix and whatever else is needed. And that will be crucial if the project is to meet its extremely tight construction timetable. But it does raise some interesting possibilities should industrial relations deteriorate on site — What if cabin fever sets in? What if the workers mutiny? Instead of protesting on Sheikh Zayed Road, they could more effectively up anchor, lower the main sails, hoist the Jolly Roger and set sail for a country with a more labourer-friendly construction industry, like Switzerland for example. Granted, Switzerland does not have a coastline, which could present some difficulties for our would-be mariners, but it has to be a worry all the same. I have tasted the pastries on sale in the cafeterias of Greek passenger ferries and they were nearly enough for me to take a cutlass to the throat of the captain. What 7000 site workers will make of the accommodation and facilities aboard, remains to be seen. DUBAI January 16th, 2006, 11:39 PM Salty, they cant afford books or stereos! and i doubt the ship will have adaquate ac for a gulf summer! Trances January 16th, 2006, 11:44 PM Don't care for the light hearted comical view on this matter at all ! malec January 17th, 2006, 12:01 AM I hope this really gets watched by the media and others so that no shit happens :bash: maltster January 18th, 2006, 09:15 AM Hi all Got some photo's of shoreline apartments taken on 9th January. Quite close up as well, they were taken from the beach in front of the Royal Mirage Hotel. Problem is I'm not sure how to upload them. Any help would be appreciated. Alt-Tab January 18th, 2006, 09:30 AM Hi all Problem is I'm not sure how to upload them. Any help would be appreciated. Goto http://imageshack.us/ upload each image and copy and paste the hotlink for forums for each image AltTab maltster January 18th, 2006, 10:03 AM http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/51/shoreline8qs.png (http://imageshack.us) http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/7470/shoreline35hw.png (http://imageshack.us) http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/4987/shoreline41ny.png (http://imageshack.us) http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/6917/shoreline65bc.png (http://imageshack.us) http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/7582/shoreline50jd.png (http://imageshack.us) http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/5726/shoreline74os.jpg (http://imageshack.us) Alt-Tab January 18th, 2006, 11:48 AM Thanks maltster great pictures, i stayed at the Arabian court last August, you get a nice view of the Shorelines from the hotel rooms... Alt-Tab January 18th, 2006, 09:43 PM Updated masterplan from www.Nakheel.ae http://www.nakheel.ae/cm/media/developments/palm-jumeirah-masterplan.jpg dubaiflo January 18th, 2006, 10:19 PM wow looks very good. but what is that addition on both sides of the middle of the trunk??? another apartment block? i seriously hope not, looks stupid also. is that a marina on the left bottom? i wonder why they did not start to construc the JIHG Fronds, these are executive villas for VIPs. Alt-Tab January 19th, 2006, 12:25 AM i wonder why they did not start to construc the JIHG Fronds, these are executive villas for VIPs. Yes thats what i was told that Fronds I and H were the VIP Fronds where David Beckham and Micheal Owen etc had "bought" their villas.. Well it looks like Nakheel have got greedy again and added 2 more seafacing shoreline buildings between Palm Terrace and Al Haseer... http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/7241/palmjumeirahmasterplanzoom7qt.jpg dubayyy January 19th, 2006, 12:31 AM Heck! This thing is growing arms and legs everywhere. Notice the two additional shoreline apartment blocks adjacent the Trump Hotel and Towers. I wonder when these will come to market and at what prices? I also fear the additions to the middle of the trunk are for new apartment blocks. It was mentioned in one of the arabic newspapers a few months back that there will be another 5000 apartments released on the Palm Jumeirah. I wondered then where they would be built and i fear i now know. Wish i could read the small text on the image but are the blue dots monorail stops?Also note the additional tunnels from M and D fronds to the crescent. Nonetheless a good update from Nakheel - just needs some explanation. dazz January 19th, 2006, 12:38 AM Somekind of fungus is growing on that palm :lol: :lol: CrazyDave January 19th, 2006, 12:46 AM Those additions to the trunk look horrible. My guess is they decided to make use of all the land they will be removing from the trunk when the build the canals. Just a guess of course, but they will have to remove a good bit of land when they add in the canels. fahed January 19th, 2006, 02:48 AM Guys, calm down! These are no fungus ... These are only huge engines that will make the palm a moving island :puke: Alt-Tab January 19th, 2006, 08:24 AM These are no fungus ... I suspect these might be marinas for the trunk visitors/residents dubaiflo January 19th, 2006, 01:00 PM i don't care about those two shorelines, they do not really add density that's ok. but those weird extensions are rather crazy, if they add something like the jewel there... :bash: Salty January 19th, 2006, 07:39 PM Alt-Tab Did you get an invite from Nakheel to visit its stand at the Dubai Property Show this weekend coming (Novotel Hammersmith)? Unfortunately I won't be able to nip across to London this weekend. It would be a good opportunity to quiz the Nakheel reps and get lots of info. from the horse's mouth. Typical that I'm committed to be elsewhere. I agree with Flo that the extra two Shoreline Apartments won't make any difference to the density, and as long as those bulges are moorings and nothing more, I think they would look very good. If there are to be more apartments on the bulges though, things would begin to look a bit ridiculous. Alt-Tab January 19th, 2006, 11:13 PM Alt-Tab Did you get an invite from Nakheel to visit its stand at the Dubai Property Show this weekend coming (Novotel Hammersmith)? Unfortunately I won't be able to nip across to London this weekend. It would be a good opportunity to quiz the Nakheel reps and get lots of info. from the horse's mouth. Typical that I'm committed to be elsewhere. I agree with Flo that the extra two Shoreline Apartments won't make any difference to the density, and as long as those bulges are moorings and nothing more, I think they would look very good. If there are to be more apartments on the bulges though, things would begin to look a bit ridiculous. Salty, Yes, I did get an email invite, I will be going not sure which day Saturday or Sunday, I will see if I can get some straight anwsers, but its been my experience, that the people on this forum know more about Nakheel's developments than Nakheel's own staff.... Salty January 19th, 2006, 11:48 PM :hahaha: :hahaha: Kind of a shame that the experience of buying on the Palm should be so much like buying a washing machine at Currys !! Anyway, enjoy the show, and may the Nakheel reps learn much from you. Dubai-Lover January 20th, 2006, 07:39 AM here we can clearly see that oceana and the jewel will be built as they were planned look at the wings on the top of the trunk! Stephan23 January 20th, 2006, 10:05 AM Great pics. Thanks a lot!!! maltster January 20th, 2006, 11:50 AM here we can clearly see that oceana and the jewel will be built as they were planned look at the wings on the top of the trunk! The wings would be there anyway, wouldnt they? The trunk has to be symetrical. There are no markings on that plan to indicate the location of apartment blocks in the area where the Jewel was supposed to be. Also I never see them (Jewel)advertised anywhere anymore. Plenty of Oceana apartments up for resale. what? January 20th, 2006, 12:11 PM latest news:today in the newspaper they say that the next 3 to 4 months all villas and apartments in palm j will be done and ready,and 87% of the world reclamation work is done and the russians nearly bought more than half of the world,while the reclamation work in palm jebil ali is due to finish late this year :bash:,plus another company will do the reclamation work of waterfront project and after van oord finish the world all 11 ships will be working in palm deira. :) Alt-Tab January 20th, 2006, 12:31 PM latest news:today in the newspaper they say that the next 3 to 4 months all villas and apartments in palm j will be done and ready Thats great news, which newspaper was this in? im not sure if they will have all road infrastructure in place to start handovers, but maybe at least the customer inspections can begin this summer. AltTab what? January 20th, 2006, 01:19 PM emirates today. :cheers: Salty January 20th, 2006, 02:10 PM Here's the link to the paper: http://83.111.90.119/emiratestoday/ Don't think it says everything will be done in 3 to 4 months - emphasis is on completion by the year end with some "show buildings" completed in 3 to 4 months. Nice upbeat article though. malec January 20th, 2006, 03:25 PM Completion by end of the year is possible. Not all the villas though. Look at the picture in the article. Some aren't even started yet. Alt-Tab January 20th, 2006, 04:16 PM From Emirates Today newspaper:- The chairman of property developer Nakheel has hit out at criticism that work on the Palm Jumeirah project is falling behind, saying that every villa and apartment will be ready for occupation on schedule by year-end. http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/8118/etpalmvillas2xh.jpg Sultan Ahmed bin Sulayem, speaking during a business trip to Seoul, South Korea, told Emirates Today the 1,400 villas and 2,200 apartments under construction on the date palm-shaped manmade island in the Arabian Gulf are on schedule for completion by the end of this year. “All the villas will be ready and all the apartments will be ready. It’s a tight programme [but] we will have people moving in to Palm Jumeirah towards the end of the year,” bin Sulayem said. “In two to three months we will show people buildings completed in one of the most successful projects in the world,” he added. The Palm Jumeirah – which encompasses homes, marinas, beaches and more than 25 luxury hotels – will cost an estimated Dh22.04 billion, the chairman said. The property developer came under fire after it failed to deliver homes by the end of 2005 – a widely expected deadline for the five-year project. But bin Sulayem called this delivery date a “misunderstanding”. “The Palm Jumeirah we started in the middle of 2001. But the first reclamation of land started in 2002, and we will end it in 2006 – that’s five years. I think we did Palm Jumeirah in remarkable time,” he said. Nakheel had to build the island from the sea floor up, using material dredged from the bottom of the Arabian Gulf. Bin Sulayem rejected criticism that the project has been plagued by snarl-ups and that construction is shoddy. “There is no question of the quality of the project. I will not allow [inferior quality]. Whether you build a villa or a palace you have snags. We are committed to fixing it,” he said. http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/7125/etshorelinesjan066lr.jpg Criticism that the plots as designed are cramped and claustrophobic have also reached his office. “Any sea development is very expensive. So the plots for the houses are always small. Compared to many other developments in the world, the Palm is generous,” he said. The chairman also downplayed the notion that the Palm Jumeirah has the potential to subside or even sink beneath the sea in the event of an earthquake. “We did four years of study and there is no risk at all.You have areas in the world that are on earthquake zones, like California, and there they are constructing daily. Here, there are earthquakes in places like Iran, and we might feel part of it. But we are not in a seismic zone.” As to the charge that the development was environmentally unfriendly, he said the islands will help the sea thrive. He said: “The bottom of the sea in Dubai is like a desert. So when you put structures down, the fish start to find a place to hide, to lay eggs and breed and corals start to grow.” Bin Sulayem urged investors and observers to reserve judgment for the few remaining months before completion. “I think people should wait until we finish some of the houses to see it,” he said. “Under no circumstances is Nakheel going to compromise its reputation by building something bad.” Nakheel’s Palm Deira will take double the time to deliver as The Palm Jumeirah because it is 10 times bigger, according to the property giant’s chairman. Investors who have placed down payments on villas in the The Palm Deira received notice from Nakheel that they would not be able to take ownership of completed villas on for 10 years. “Nobody ever announced that The Palm Deira is going to finish in two years or three years or four years,” Sultan Ahmed bin Sulayem, Nakheel’s Chairman, told Emirates Today, as he described the core differences between The Palm Jumeirah and The Palm Deira projects that the developer is building off Dubai’s shoreline. “It is not delayed by 10 years; it is just that this is the time it is going to take.” The chairman said people fail to grasp the “magnitude” of The Palm Deira project – which, once completed, will span 500 kilometres of beach length, compared with 75km at The Palm Jumeirah. Villas and apartments at The Palm Jumeirah should be fully complete and ready for investors by the end of the year, following five years of construction. “The Palm Deira project is huge. It is as big as the city of Paris. The Palm Jumeirah will take five years to complete. Naturally,The Palm Deira, with luck, will be able to make it in 10 years,” he said. Bin Sulayem said a key challenge is collecting the sand from which it will build up the island from the sea floor. “The sand that we reclaimed to create The Palm Jumeirah is 120 million cubic metres.The Palm Deira, will use 1.35 billion cubic metres.There is no way it can be built any faster.” So far, contractors have managed to reclaim 10 per cent of the sand for the project. He said investors who have committed down payments will not be compelled to wait out the decade.They can opt to transfer the down payment to other Nakheel projects, such as Jumeirah Islands, Discovery Gardens or Lost City, which will be ready in two years. Alternatively, bin Sulayem said, Nakheel “will give them the money back” if that is what investors prefer. “People can take their money, but most of the people who have bought did so as an investment. Everybody wants the other location.They have no problem.They can go, they can invest, they can multiply their money.” AltTab Dubai-Lover January 20th, 2006, 05:39 PM this is so hilarious read: he talked to the media in seoul, south korea today in the newspapers there was an article about a co-operation between dubai and busan ports thay plan something there so he's there for dp world who else can do that? :D fahed January 20th, 2006, 07:06 PM So palm deira needs 10 more years. Guess the time needed for Dubai Waterfront! dubaiflo January 21st, 2006, 12:03 AM anyway the article sounds great, but of course it is rather biased. nevertheless rather interesting. Dubai Waterfront might also take till 2015 i'd say. Face81 January 21st, 2006, 09:04 AM wow looks very good. but what is that addition on both sides of the middle of the trunk??? another apartment block? i seriously hope not, looks stupid also. I told you they would cram in as many apartment buildings as they could. New Karama in 15 years???? :ohno: shame on nakheel! :gaah: dubaiflo January 21st, 2006, 12:02 PM we will see what it is. i don't mind the additional shorelines, they look ok and don't add density. Face81 January 21st, 2006, 02:55 PM we will see what it is. i don't mind the additional shorelines, they look ok and don't add density. How can this not look dense already, Flo? http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/7125/etshorelinesjan066lr.jpg dubaiflo January 21st, 2006, 02:58 PM ehm this is not dense, put that into perspective and use any aerial shot, then it is not dense at all TOWERCITY2005 January 21st, 2006, 03:56 PM Nakheel is a proven worst developer of real estates in Dubai..... -nothing is delivered on time -nothing is delivered as promised -they don't stick to the original master plan and always add more villas and buildings which were not in the original masterplan -the worst finishing in their projects - they only think of "profits" but not about quality Face81 January 21st, 2006, 04:13 PM ehm this is not dense, put that into perspective and use any aerial shot, then it is not dense at all Flo, when I say dense I mean the close proximity of the buildings. I am certain that when the original master plan was released the buildings were well spaced, but since they always decide to add hidden buildings in the last minute, the buildings are built closer together to maximise the use of the land, which is unfair on investors. Thats all I am saying, junger junge :D Face81 January 21st, 2006, 04:14 PM -they don't stick to the original master plan and always add more villas and buildings which were not in the original masterplan I agree with you on that point. :cheers: Alt-Tab January 22nd, 2006, 10:36 PM I was at the Dubai property show today, spoke to Nakheel didnt get any new information. 1. Shoreline Apartments and Villas will be ready bt Nov 2006 2. The internal finish/style of the shoreline apartments is pre-selected, the owners have no choice. 3. He didnt know anything about the 2 new shoreline buildings on the new site plan. 4. He didnt know anything about the structures either side of trump tower on the site plan. 5. He said the Crown area of the Palm (Fronds H, I, J & K) is owned by Sheikh Mohammed, its private land and they dont when it will be developed!?! AltTab Face81 January 23rd, 2006, 07:33 AM I was at the Dubai property show today, spoke to Nakheel didnt get any new information. 1. Shoreline Apartments and Villas will be ready bt Nov 2006 2. The internal finish/style of the shoreline apartments is pre-selected, the owners have no choice. 3. He didnt know anything about the 2 new shoreline buildings on the new site plan. 4. He didnt know anything about the structures either side of trump tower on the site plan. 5. He said the Crown area of the Palm (Fronds H, I, J & K) is owned by Sheikh Mohammed, its private land and they dont when it will be developed!?! AltTab what wonderful news. Nakheel continues to be sly, sneaky and in denial! :bash: :dunno: Dubai_Steve January 23rd, 2006, 01:58 PM Nakheel CEO James Wilson told the City Expansion conference in Abu Dhabi today about a second joint venture project with Donald Trump: the 1,000-apartment Village Centre at the end of the trunk which will also have three floors of retail. This development will be completed in December 2008 and have a dedicated monorail station like the Trump Tower. dubaiflo January 23rd, 2006, 04:22 PM interesting. The Palm, Jumeirah ready in November http://www.ameinfo.com/images/news/8/21138-dubai-from-above.jpg Nakheel CEO James Wilson told the City Expansion conference in Abu Dhabi that 2,300 shoreline apartments and 1,600 villas on The Palm, Jumeirah will be ready for delivery from November, and revealed that eight hotels were now under construction. United Arab Emirates: 3 hours, 20 minutes ago 'We are on schedule to meet our contract delivery date, contrary to some media reports. But have perhaps suffered from some over-optimistic sales talk,' he explained. 'My focus now is on delivering this major project. The land reclamation is 100% complete, and we will add the 76 kilometres of beach in about three months time. There has been some confusion about this, and the Palm will look very different with its beaches in place. But rather like the sand in the bunker on a golf course, this is the last thing you do.' Mr. Wilson has also had some success in convincing hotel chains to get on with building their properties, rather than to wait until residents have moved in, and eight out of 32 hotel developments sold on the Palm are under construction. Hotels in two years 'It will be another two years before the first hotels open,' he added. There will be 25 of these hotels on The Crescent, an 11.5 kilometer breakwater than surrounds The Palm, and this includes the 1,500-room Atlantis Hotel at the furthest point from the shore and the Fairmont hotel and serviced-apartments. 'We have built a cut-and-cover tunnel from The Trunk to The Crescent which will run under water, and so access will be by road, monorail or ferry.' Nakheel's CEO also revealed a second joint venture project with Donald Trump: the 1,000-apartment Village Centre with three floors of retailing at the end of the trunk. This development will be completed in December 2008 and also have a dedicated monorail station like the already announced Trump Tower. It is clear that Nakheel has been rattled by some adverse press criticism about The Palm, and is now concentrating on making this iconic project a major success for Dubai. Given that comments about beaches being washed away are based on a simple misunderstanding, the record does need to be put straight. Road traffic studies Mr. Wilson also answered questions from the audience about traffic studies and the environment. He stressed that after three traffic studies the last modifications to infrastructure plans were made 14 months ago and that he was convinced that traffic would not be a problem for The Palm. 'As far as the marine environment is concerned, The Crescent is the largest artificial coral reef in the world, and is a magnet for marine life. We are creating a haven for the marine environment. I am a diver myself and The Palm is teaming with fish of every kind.' Whatever happens in November, the world is watching progress on The Palm, Jumeriah and its builders obviously appreciate the need to deliver and are getting on with the job. sounds amazing. they have indeed not yet started to create beaches. good thing, it will be clean if they do it afterwards. curious on how it is going to look like. Dubai-Lover January 23rd, 2006, 05:25 PM trump had launched project 2, also on palm jumeirah Second Trump project for The Palm Nakheel CEO James Wilson told the City Expansion conference in Abu Dhabi today about a second joint venture project with Donald Trump: the 1,000-apartment Village Centre at the end of the trunk which will also have three floors of retail. This development will be completed in December 2008 and have a dedicated monorail station like the Trump Tower. the village centre exists since day 1 of the project it's those 6 13 storey buildings surrounding the mall on top of the trunk i never expected trump to give his name for this project! Face81 January 24th, 2006, 08:40 AM very interesting........ Alt-Tab January 24th, 2006, 09:29 AM the village centre exists since day 1 of the project it's those 6 13 storey buildings surrounding the mall on top of the trunk No, the 6 buildings are the Marina apartments. The Village Center is next to them, the shopping mall is the domed building, the village center apartments building is the single wide curved builiding (that has a similar design to the atlantis). http://www.nakheel.ae/cm/media/developments/palm-jumeirah-2.jpg http://www.nakheel.ae/cm/media/developments/palm-jumeirah-4.jpg AltTab dubayyy January 24th, 2006, 12:55 PM Your location is correct Alt-Tab but the building in the above renders does not look like it will house 1000 apartments. Remember 1000 apartments equates to nearly 10 shoreline buildings. More recent renders of this area show a cross-shaped building (plan view) - but again i imagine this will have been re-designed to accomodate more apartments. Alt-Tab January 24th, 2006, 01:30 PM More recent renders of this area show a cross-shaped building (plan view) - but again i imagine this will have been re-designed to accomodate more apartments. Yes, you are right those are the old renders that were released in Summer 2004, they are still using these on the updated nakheel website. Here is the current render that you mention:- http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/3982/trump27uh.jpg AltTab dazz January 25th, 2006, 11:00 AM I am also sharing EDonkey Link to Discovery Channel Ski Dome AVI (ed2k://|file|Dubai%20DiscoveryChannel-SkiDubai.avi|723615806|0D6898F4855BCDAC80DD06E1C2B659C1|h=EQU6SPLRF2NPH2DK334R4OWBDORPDK3G|/) EDonkey Link to Fantasy Islands AVI (ed2k://|file|Dubai.Discovery.Channel.Palm.Fantasy.Islands.avi|737153640|36F96596F5469A4CAC2C02CCDB14D49B|h=5RJQJDVB7SK7C3I2MGB5JXAHSZ7TB5MB|/) Im usually on Razorback2 ED2K Server AltTab Could anyone come to reshare these files Alt-Tab January 25th, 2006, 11:11 AM Could anyone come to reshare these files Dazz, The German version of Fantasy Islands (ed2k://|file|Gigantisch.-.Dubai.-.Konstruierte.Paradiese.avi|379361280|1BDB0BFDF34552CF1B9757328B5C90E6|/) is well shared on ed2k I am still sharing the original ones.... AltTab Alt-Tab January 26th, 2006, 03:10 PM From Emirates today newspaper... Interchange linking Palm will open this Saturday Vesela Todorova News Reporter A new interchange along Sheikh Zayed Road is opening on Saturday, an official at the Dubai Roads & Transport Authority announced yesterday. The new interchange, called interchange four-and-a-half, is going to connect the Palm Jumeirah with the city’s major road arteries and is expected to facilitate the flow of traffic on either side of the Sheikh Zayed Road. It is hoped that the new interchange will improve the accessibility to Emaar’s developments in the area as well as to projects such as Dubai Media City, Internet City and Knowledge Village, said Maitha bint Adai, director of the roads department at the authority. The Dh240 million project, consisting of three bridges and one underpass, will improve the flow between the Emirates Road, Al Khail Road, Sheikh Zayed Road and Al Sufouh Road, Bint Adai said. The interchange, which was completed in 20 months, is one of three major projects to serve the Palm Jumeirah, said Bint Adai, without mentioning any further details. The project also consists of another two-grade separated interchanges at Al Sufouh Road. This interchange has one tunnel serving the traffic moving from Emirates Road and Sheikh Zayed Road towards Palm Jumeirah and the Dubai Marina. Other developments to help ease the movement along one of the city’s most congested roads are also coming up, she said. Another interchange over Sheikh Zayed Road, situated near interchange four-and-a-half, will open by the end of February. The authority is pressing on with plans to upgrade the existing interchanges over the city’s major artery, she said.Work would soon begin on all interchanges up to interchange five-and-a-half, while the rest of the projects are either at the preliminary or at the final design stage. Some of the interchanges might be demolished and built anew if studies show that they could not be modified to accommodate the surge in traffic created by developments along the Sheikh Zayed Road, she said. dubaiflo January 26th, 2006, 05:58 PM don't get the article. three major projects to serve palm jum? metro, IC 4,5 and the al sufouh road connection? and where the heck is the tunnel? is it the one on the very right bottom in this old media city render? rest sounds like new dubai will be linked up reasonable in the end. just hurry up. Dubai_Steve January 27th, 2006, 03:19 AM Don't mind doing the washing up in this kitchen! http://www.marinaheightstower.net/a15.jpg juiced January 27th, 2006, 06:29 AM what tower is that from??????????? because the windows are hideous Alt-Tab January 27th, 2006, 08:48 AM what tower is that from??????????? because the windows are hideous Thats from Ragga's Al Fattan marine tower apartment, i agree i think the view is fantastic. juiced January 27th, 2006, 12:12 PM :lol: i thought it was from marina heights, yes its an amazing view :) dubaiflo January 27th, 2006, 01:53 PM where is the problem with the windows :weird: Alt-Tab January 28th, 2006, 11:08 PM Latest masterplan http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/8429/palmmaartenmasterplan7sj.jpg You can clearly see the two new shoreline apartment buildings and the Palm Canal entry marinas http://img480.imageshack.us/img480/7259/palmmaartenmasterplanzoom6hf.jpg AltTab Alt-Tab January 28th, 2006, 11:16 PM More renders from the masterplan re-design, I think these renders are for the empty "non-nakheel" fronds Open green spaces, small community parks with childrens playground, shaded seating, ball game areas, picknicking sunbathing ... http://www.earthzonelandscapes.co.za/images-2005/palm/Picture27-739.jpg http://www.earthzonelandscapes.co.za/images-2005/palm/Picture26-739.jpg http://www.earthzonelandscapes.co.za/images-2005/palm/Picture15.jpg Canal Coves (where the spine meets the fronds), cluster home development with pool area, gazebo, playground, private beach and tidal pool http://www.earthzonelandscapes.co.za/images-2005/palm/Picture29.jpg http://www.earthzonelandscapes.co.za/images-2005/palm/Picture16.jpg http://www.earthzonelandscapes.co.za/images-2005/palm/Picture12.jpg http://www.earthzonelandscapes.co.za/images-2005/palm/Picture33.jpg dubaiflo January 28th, 2006, 11:26 PM renders look good ;) btw the idea of marinas is amazing. credits to nakheel this time. Alt-Tab January 28th, 2006, 11:30 PM Non Nakheel Fronds - Chairmans Cul De Sac http://www.earthzonelandscapes.co.za/images-2005/palm/3758NN-SK006-a1-chairmans-p.jpg Redesigined frond tip / cul de sac http://www.earthzonelandscapes.co.za/images-2005/palm/3758NN-SK005-a1-TIP-FRND-F-.jpg Alt-Tab January 28th, 2006, 11:37 PM http://www.earthzonelandscapes.co.za/bin/projects/palm.html Status: Concept and Preliminary Design Stage Landscape Architects: Al Khatib Cracknell Role: Senior Landscape Architect - Lead Designer Completion: June 2006 Landscape Budget: AED 200 000 000 (US$ 55 000 000) Overall Cost: AED 13bn msleiman January 28th, 2006, 11:59 PM any idea if any mosques will be build on the palm .........would be a shame if none were made dubaiflo January 29th, 2006, 12:46 AM Those landscape project sounds just amazing... :eek: palm jum could indeed turn out great. Alt-Tab January 29th, 2006, 05:01 AM any idea if any mosques will be build on the palm .........would be a shame if none were made I was told there would be a mosque in the village center area, but the designs have changed several times since then. Im sure there will be at least one mosque somewhere on the Palm.... AltTab fahed January 29th, 2006, 09:25 AM One mosque would also be a shame. This place is HUGE. Alt-Tab January 29th, 2006, 09:26 AM http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/8852/2901200600201000212hm.jpg Salty January 29th, 2006, 11:13 AM Alt-Tab, This new material you've found looks fantastic. The two new Shoreline Apartments and the new marinas seem to certain to be built. When I was in Hammersmith I showed the diagram of the 2 new apartment blocks to the Nakheel reps. At first they tried to skate away from the subject, but when I was more insistent and asked why these apartment blocks were shown on Nakheel's new sitemap if they weren't going to be built, one of the reps made a phone call. As usual, I bitterly regretted not speaking Arabic as I listened to the call. When he finished speaking the rep. would not confirm anything but simply said if there were to be any new Shoreline Apartments or marinas it would be for Nakheel to announce this officially in due course. The fact is though, he didn't deny it. With this latest masterplan you've uncovered the new apartments and marinas look a certainty alright. They will be an excellent addition, as will the landscaped areas on the fronds. Palm Jumeirah is looking like a better and better investment to me. Thanks for posting up this latest data. dubaiflo January 29th, 2006, 11:32 AM i wonder why you think two more shorelines will be an excellent addition...? Salty January 29th, 2006, 11:39 AM i wonder why you think two more shorelines will be an excellent addition...? Flo, it's really the marinas that I think will be an excellent addition. Mind you, the 2 new apartment blocks will have very fine views of and access to the beaches and marina. They won't overcrowd the area or look "crammed in" because there is enough space to put them between the adjacent Shoreline buildings and the lagoon entrance canal without reducing the normal distance between the apartment blocks. As you say, they won't increase density. Dubai-Lover January 29th, 2006, 05:18 PM doesn't happen too often that a major piece of infrastructure is finished before it is actually needed good to see dubai continues to improve itself :okay: AltinD January 29th, 2006, 08:32 PM ^^ It is not that the piece of infrastructure is finished before, rather the project, it is suposed to serve is delayed, as usual. dubaiflo January 29th, 2006, 08:39 PM :D nice one altin... but true. but it is the other way round with dubai marina but this was rather a case of stupid planning... Alt-Tab January 30th, 2006, 11:42 AM Some nice shots of the Palm from Dubai Regatta http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/1715/dubairegattapalm17qs.jpg http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/667/dubairegattapalm21er.jpg http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/1386/dubairegattapalm32dw.jpg http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/1808/dubairegattapalm42kc.jpg AltTab Stephan23 January 30th, 2006, 02:20 PM Good pics. THX. Maybe a little to big I think!! Salty February 1st, 2006, 08:35 PM Got some beauties here chaps. Here's the first ... http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/51/dsc5299alarge1sd.th.jpg (http://img397.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc5299alarge1sd.jpg) and the second ... http://img488.imageshack.us/img488/9046/dsc5328alarge7xd.th.jpg (http://img488.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc5328alarge7xd.jpg) and finally this one is for all you guys who've invested in / love the Marina ... http://img488.imageshack.us/img488/6695/dsc5361alarge2wg.th.jpg (http://img488.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc5361alarge2wg.jpg) Alt-Tab February 1st, 2006, 09:26 PM Salty, Great photos where did you find them? these must be the best shoreline apartment construction shots we have so far.. I have been thinking about booking a helicopter tour the next time i go in April. AltTab dubaiflo February 1st, 2006, 09:28 PM :eek: amazing stuff!! did you do a helicopter flight over Dubai?? btw anyone noticed the black spots in the middle of the trunk between the shorelines? Trump Tulip Tower foundation? what do you think? also i don't see the two additional shorelines? :weird: Salty February 1st, 2006, 09:58 PM Got them via a local friend. They are brilliant aren't they? Yep, looks to me as though they are making a start on Trump Tower Flo. Absolute silence on the additional Shorelines is all I hear. Could happen, but who knows? Alt Tab, remember to take your camera on the helo in April!!! Should be looking even better by then. I wonder what the date will be for the flooding of the canal? Salty February 1st, 2006, 10:03 PM I wonder what the date will be for the flooding of the canal? i.e. it's gonna be difficult to flood the canal until the Trump Tower is done. Will we be expected to take delivery of the apartments with a dry canal? Dubai-Lover February 1st, 2006, 10:13 PM best pics of the year 2006 so far been waiting for something like this for ages you made my day it's so fucking awesome :eek: dubaiflo February 1st, 2006, 10:20 PM imagine this skyline in 2009 or even 2008, beach - towers- canal - SZR - towers- lake - towers :eek: agree the last one is pretty amazing. can't wait to see it myself.. malec February 1st, 2006, 10:30 PM Cool, any pics of palm JA though? |