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August 7th, 2006, 09:56 PM
the megastructures documentary was on channel 5!
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View Full Version : #PROJECT: THE PALM JUMEIRAH zee August 7th, 2006, 09:56 PM the megastructures documentary was on channel 5! Krazy August 8th, 2006, 03:58 PM http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e357/sahmad1/4749cdbd.jpg Emir of Ketir August 8th, 2006, 05:02 PM Bit of a negative article:- Aug. 6, 2006, 2:28PM Dubai Man-Made Island Nears Completion By JIM KRANE AP Business Writer © 2006 The Associated Press DUBAI, United Arab Emirates — [...] Nakheel rejected an Associated Press request to visit the island.[...] Poor Jim from AP - he flew all the way to Dubai, excited to get a free helicopter flight over the Palm, free courtesy nights in the Burj al Arab, free female entertainment - all of which they denied him and look how poor Jim reacted. One day Jim you will be a big journalist, till then, stick to the toddlers area in City Centre. zee August 8th, 2006, 05:44 PM thats nakheel for ya!! Dr Dubai August 8th, 2006, 07:29 PM Ha ha emir I think you are spot on! He says it in the article himself! he wanted to visit the island and was turned down! his huge journalist ego was battered!...and that's how he responds! classic case of Dubai "do you know who I am" syndrome going wrong!....anyway what's the deal with those Marina apartmetns at the end of the trunk..looks like they're definitely gonna block some of the sea views of the end trunk apartments!..is it al masali etc??..hang on a sec...maybe Jim did have a point! lol! guy_in_dubai August 9th, 2006, 01:24 AM Fantastic pics of garden homes here: http://www.mybhmaster.com/ui/S/3700/Garden%20Homes%20-%20selection.JPG http://www.mybhmaster.com/ui/S/8298/Garden%20Home%20-%20interiors.JPG guy_in_dubai August 9th, 2006, 01:44 AM zzeeshan..wasnt it on channel 4? and who exactly made that? it always comes on national geog...and omg, they make it sooo dramatic that there were no tourits coming to the middle east on 9/11...i was like wth! Krazy August 9th, 2006, 03:14 AM Palm Jumeirah is to open on November 30 guy_in_dubai August 9th, 2006, 12:49 PM where did u get that from? maltster August 9th, 2006, 01:17 PM The biggest building site on earth by MICHAEL HANLON 22:22pm 8th August 2006 Reader comments (4) Welcome to Dubai. Make sure you're wearing a hard hat. Click enlarge to see the building site Those looking for tranquil, unspoilt beaches, rustic charm and authentic maritime culture will probably choose to look elsewhere. But for the world's permatanned classes with bling to display and money to burn this extraordinary construction project in the Persian Gulf is an irresistible draw. Begun in 2001, the Palm Islands are a 12-square-mile group off the shores of Dubai. With 14,000 labourers toiling day and night, the first of three unfeasibly large, palm shaped artificial islands, Palm Jumeirah, is nearing completion, and about to receive its first residents. When the luxury homes on the Palm's 17 giant 'fronds' were first put on sale in 2004, the buyers - of what will become a cross between Las Vegas and Wilmslow-on-sea - included the Beckhams, who put a deposit down on a £1.2million designer pad with two swimming pools, Michael Owen, Anthea Turner and Grant Bovey, and Gary Neville. Prices start at £100,000 for a one-bedroom flat with a shared pool and go up to £3.8million for one of the 90,000 sq ft plots on the end of each frond - but this price doesn't include the villa. Michael Jackson is rumoured to have a financial stake in the project. The islands almost defy description. They are huge artificial peninsulas, made from some 90 million cubic metres of sand dredged from the bottom of the Gulf. The outer edge of this first Palm is a gigantic, 7mile-long breakwater built of 7 million cubic metres of rock brought from 17 different quarries in the United Arab Emirates. It will be able to withstand 12ft-high waves. When the Palm Islands were first mooted, a decade ago, Dutch engineers were called in to ensure that the new land would be safe from winter storms and day-to-day marine erosion. However, the developers, Al Nakheel Properties, rushed ahead - only later realising that the original design did not allow enough water to flow through the development. Some of the villas bought by the likes of David Beckham. Click enlarge to see the three views of the development Lack of water flow would be sure to cause stagnation and environmental damage. So the Dutch were recalled, and two extra channels, clearly visible in these pictures, were cut into the outer barrier. If this hadn't been done, the artificial lagoon created by the reef would soon have become a fetid haven for algae and mosquitoes. The fronds of the palm spread out into the Persian Gulf Once finished, the Palm Jumeirah, which extends four miles into the Gulf, will accommodate some 60,000 residents in 2,500 exclusive beachside villas, 2,500 apartments in 20 high-rise blocks and 50 luxury hotels. At least 50,000 workers will staff the hotels, two marinas, water theme parks, restaurants, shopping malls, sports centres, health spas and cinemas. Bridges more than 300 yards long will transport visitors from the mainland to the Palm Jumeirah, and a canal will carry water taxis along the 1.2 mile-long 'trunk' of the island, while an electric monorail will whisk visitors and residents overhead. More than 12,000 palm trees are being grown on the mainland for the island's gardens. The Palm Jumeirah will be followed by two more palm tree-shaped islands that will require a further 1.3 billion cubic metres of sand and stone. The developers are also building The World Archipelago, a cluster of 264 islands that form a world map. Rod Stewart is rumoured to have bought the island shaped like Britain. The total cost of constructing the islands is some $14 billion. zee August 9th, 2006, 02:11 PM zzeeshan..wasnt it on channel 4? and who exactly made that? it always comes on national geog...and omg, they make it sooo dramatic that there were no tourits coming to the middle east on 9/11...i was like wth! it was on five and yeh the episode is abit out of date...they should make a part 2 and im surprised they havnt made an episode on the other offshore projects maybe they should include all of them in part 2 Krazy August 9th, 2006, 02:43 PM courtesy victorPP http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l200/mir_dr/Palm-2.jpg Stephan23 August 11th, 2006, 09:25 AM FROM WORLD FORUM Credits to Jessica Franz & Stefan Zwanzger (and thank you malec for finding their very very interesting website: http://www.true-dubai.com/) Pictures taken on July: http://www.true-dubai.com/homepage-palm-jumeirah/perspective-palm-jumeirah.jpg http://www.true-dubai.com/homepage-palm-jumeirah/palm-jumeirah-trunk.jpg ^^^You can see rising in the crescent the Atlantis resort (http://www.atlantisthepalm.com): http://www.true-dubai.com/homepage-palm-jumeirah/cranes-on-the-palm-jumeirah.jpg More photos of construction maddness :hammer:: http://www.true-dubai.com/homepage-palm-jumeirah/lower-part-of-palm.jpg http://www.true-dubai.com/homepage-palm-jumeirah/big-construction-palm-jumeirah.jpg http://www.true-dubai.com/homepage-palm-jumeirah/middle-of-palm-jumeirah.jpg More at: http://www.true-dubai.com/the-palm-jumeirah.htm Emir of Ketir August 11th, 2006, 03:19 PM Interesting to see that the tunnel damn is now used as the essential suppy route for construction materials. //offtopic// Stefan Zwanzger - isn't that the German guy who runs some affiliate website board - I guess true-dubai.com with its well positioned Google Adsense will generate a fair amount of revenues given the hype and therefore traffic. //offtopic// Julito-dubai August 13th, 2006, 12:09 PM Hey guys Nakheel talks about 32 five-star hotels that will be located on the Palm Jumeirah. Can anybody make a list which ones are already under construction or approved. So far I've heared of 8 hotel under construction like the 'Atlantis'. Is there any information about the other 24 ? dubaiflo August 13th, 2006, 02:24 PM 32.. so let's say some more 4 star and we will have 40 hotels on PJ. that was to be expected. but .. traffic will be ... :runaway: i mean, most of the people want to visit the city also. malec August 13th, 2006, 05:20 PM I think it's 32 hotels altogether Krazy August 14th, 2006, 12:51 AM courtesy Omaro... aug 11 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v163/liver4eva/SSC/IMG_0454.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v163/liver4eva/SSC/IMG_0455.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v163/liver4eva/SSC/IMG_0460.jpg THE DUBAI GUYS August 14th, 2006, 09:28 AM Nakheel appoints Shimizu for Marina Residences BY A STAFF REPORTER 14 August 2006 DUBAI — Nakheel, has announced the appointment of Shimizu Corporation as the main contractor for the Marina Residences & Town Houses, The Palm Jumeirah. Shimizu Corporation, a leading international general contractor, signed the agreement with Nakheel to construct the basements, superstructure, architectural works, interior finishings and landscaping of the high-end condominium which is at the tip of the trunk on The Palm Jumeirah. Speaking on behalf of Nakheel, Marwan Al Qamzi, Head of Procurements and Contracts said, "Our priority is to service our clients efficiently within a set time frame and Shimizu Corporation were the only company who could meet our high standards and requirements. Shimizu Corporation has delivered countless projects, earning a reputation for excellence and this is why we want them involved in our project." Shinjiro Kuwabara, the General Manager of the Dubai office for Shimizu Corporation commented, "The Marina Residences & Town Houses has one of the best locations on The Palm Jumeirah which will be the number one address in Dubai and so we are delighted with this appointment and extremely proud to be associated with such a prestigious company and project." R BankerMan August 16th, 2006, 03:40 PM Aug 6, 3:26 PM EDT Dubai Man-Made Island Nears Completion (http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/D/DUBAI_PALM_ISLAND?SITE=RIWAR&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT) By JIM KRANE AP Business Writer DUBAI, United Arab Emirates (AP) -- With 14,000 laborers toiling day and night, the first of Dubai's three palm-shaped islands is finally about to get its first residents. The Palm Jumeirah, a 12-square-mile island group, is part of what's billed as the largest land-reclamation project in the world, the product of five years of brute hauling of millions of tons of Persian Gulf sand and quarried rock. On Nov. 30, the palm will open to some 4,000 residents, said Issam Kazim, a spokesman for Dubai's state-owned developer Nakheel. When fully complete by 2010, the Palm Jumeirah will be an offshore city, with some 60,000 residents and at least 50,000 workers in 32 hotels and dozens of shops and attractions, Nakheel said. Observers say they are surprised that the fledgling developer has been able to build such a complex project more or less as planned, albeit with several snags that delayed the opening from last year. "The project has captured people's imagination," said Colin Foreman of the Middle East Economic Digest. "Nothing like it has been done anywhere else in the world." Nakheel's four island projects, the world's largest land reclamation effort, are reshaping Dubai's stretch of the Gulf coast. The $14 billion project is a key part of this booming city's ambitions to rival Singapore and Hong Kong as a business hub, and surpass Las Vegas as a leisure capital. The frenetic pace of development has utterly transformed Dubai from a sleepy trading and pearl-diving village in the 1950s to a flashy metropolis of 1.5 million. The island's construction has not all been smooth, and most buyers were supposed to get keys to their island homes a year ago. Some of the new land sank and Nakheel needed an extra year to add more and pack it with vibrating land compactors, Kazim said. Reports from those who have wandered through the island's giant homes describe them as cheaply finished and set uncomfortably close to one another. Nakheel rejected an Associated Press request to visit the island. Overburdened roads in Dubai's Jumeirah Beach neighborhood are expected to clog further as people begin moving onto the island, accessible, for now, by a single bridge. Mainlanders have already put up with years of road works and innumerable trucks hauling boulders to the island. Those moving onto the Palm Jumeirah this year will have to live with construction for another three years, and then an influx of tourists. Most of the owners are foreigners, with Britons making up the largest group, Kazim said. Many observers believe Dubai's frenetic homebuilding will soon outstrip demand. "We've still got a shortage of properties in Dubai, but that's likely to become an excess in next six or 12 months," said Steve Brice, an economist with Standard Chartered Bank in Dubai. Brice said year-old estimates that 50,000 housing units would hit the market in 2006 will be more than doubled. Nakheel, one of three big developers here, has said it will release 60,000 units in the 2nd half of 2006 alone. Nakheel's two copycat Palms, the Palm Jebel Ali and Palm Deira, have also been delayed by design changes and other factors, Kazim said. A nearly finished fourth Nakheel archipelago, shaped like a map of the world, has attracted few buyers and remains mostly unsold. Kazim said The World's sales trouble stems from simple economics: Nakheel is selling empty islands for tens of millions of dollars only to builders promising low-density luxury. Dubai's government expects the Palm Jumeirah to become a signature tourist attraction, bringing in as many as 20,000 daily visitors, Kazim said. Meanwhile, laborers living in a cruise ship moored offshore are scrambling to finish enormous concrete houses that are crammed together on the palm island's 17 "fronds." The fronds are narrow peninsulas as long as a mile, attached to the island's main trunk. Nakheel will hand keys to owners of 1,350 homes by Nov. 30, Kazim said. Also nearing completion are 2,650 apartments in 20 high-rises that have sprung up on the island's trunk. The hulking complexes are visible from shore, where the sprawling island, with its dredges, highway overpasses and construction cranes has become a major eyesore for resort hotels on Dubai's once idyllic natural beaches. Even after the handover in November, less than half of the island's construction will be finished. Kazim said the project won't be done until nearly 2010, if things go according to Nakheel's current schedule. The 1,500 room Atlantis Hotel is already under construction by South Africa and Dubai-owned Kerzner International, and is expected to be finished in 2009. The hotel will be similar to its Atlantis hotel in The Bahamas. A redesigned Trump Hotel and Tower on the island is also expected to open sometime in 2009, Kazim said. maltster August 16th, 2006, 05:04 PM ^^ REPOST! See post 50. Although I dont doubt it's been reposted because of it's negative slant. Bankerman seems to have been predicting our doom for ages now. Jacko August 16th, 2006, 06:43 PM Banker man, There is an english saying about 'crying wolf' and I'm afraid you have been labelled as a prophet of doom. Personally I think PJ has been a great success and certainly put Dubai on the world stage, PJA looks like it will be great but PD will be total overkill and ruin the idea of the palms. I think the world will be the jewel as it is seperate from the mainland, thus keeping it's excusivity and hopefully not to overcrowded. There is one thing I entirely agree with and that is overconstruction. They are too close to each other on PJ (in my humble oinion) and the golden mile is becoming a long line of high rise towers (albeit very very nice ones!) Krazy August 20th, 2006, 07:54 PM Palm District Cooling awards AED191m contract to Shinryo of Japan for Palm Jumeirah Palm District Cooling - the region's most versatile district cooling company - today announced the signing of a landmark contract worth AED 191 million with Shinryo Corporation, one of Japan's leading engineering companies. http://www.ameinfo.com/images/news/4/28694-shi.jpg Mr. Kenji Yamamoto GM Shinryo Corporation Middle East with Mr. Keith Levers, CEO of Palm District Cooling. Following the inking of the deal, PDC's investment on the iconic Palm Jumeirah development has increased to more than AED1 billion. The contract's mandate is construction of two chiller plants that will provide 49,000 tons of cooling for the second phase of the Palm Trunk Jumeirah development. The two plants will link with the approximately 15 km of main header piping system that runs around the Palm Trunk, connecting the development's hotels and apartment blocks. Commenting on the landmark deal, Mr. Keith Levers, CEO of Palm District Cooling, said, 'Our decision to award the contract to Shinryo followed a comprehensive review of a number of proposals and was based on our requirement to procure the most efficient and cost effective solution. We are constantly seeking to improve service quality and plant efficiency, to reduce the overall cost of cooling solutions.' In his comments on the agreement, Mr. Kenji Yamamoto, General Manager, Shinryo Corporation, Dubai, said, 'We are very pleased to partner Palm District Cooling. This is our third project for Palm District Cooling that is being managed through our Dubai office. As Asia's leading district heating and cooling contractor, Shinryo Corporation offers a vision of urban infrastructure second to none. We are happy to be part of the iconic Palm Jumeirah development.' The plants will consist of large centrifugal chillers - widely recognized as the most energy-efficient means of providing cooling for large-scale developments. With 12 large compressor modules, 10 having a capacity 4500 TR (refrigeration tons) each, the facility will require approx 44 MW of electrical power at peak load conditions during the summer, approximately 50% of the electrical power required for conventional cooling systems The contract with Shinryo is the last of the contracts to be awarded for the district cooling for the whole of Palm Jumeirah. A total of eight plants are being constructed, encompassing a total capacity of 230,000 TR on the whole Palm Jumeirah development. District cooling systems distribute thermal energy in the form of chilled water from a central source to multiple buildings through a network of underground pipes instead of using one local system for each building, thus creating both economic and environmental benefits. In addition to reduced CFC emissions and better noise control, the system uses only 50 per cent of the energy required for conventional methods. Goss August 28th, 2006, 12:26 PM Any news anyone? malec August 28th, 2006, 12:34 PM SSC has been down for a while so nobody's been able to post maltster August 29th, 2006, 09:38 AM :okay: As it's been a few weeks I think we need to start 'buttering up' to Richard ( Head) again. Should have been a fair bit of progress since the last update. So Richard, if you're reading this and are able to get on the Palm, a nice photo of Al Khushkar - canal side - would be much appreciated :okay: renniks August 29th, 2006, 04:44 PM Hi Goss, I'm buying a Garden Home on Palm JA. I think I read previously that you had added an extra floor to your villa. Can I ask: are you pleased with the addition and do you think it was good value? (If it's not a rude question!) is it possible to give me an idea of the cost? Many thanks. Goss August 29th, 2006, 07:02 PM Hi Rennicks-welcome to the forum and good luck with the purchase-where abouts is the villa situated? I have an Antrim 11 with the extra bedroom but unfortunately not the extra floor which I believe was an option that had to be taken at the beginning.If my memory serves me correctly it was Bullish who mentioned that he has the Garden Villa with the extra floor-he managed to get on the Island and see it for himself and was delighted with the result!Hopefully he will read this and be able to answer a few of your questions. Hello Richard-if you are still out there-Malster is absolutely right and we are in dire need of a progress report.Cannot describe the untold joy your pictures bring and this forum is in need of a kick start-I think I speak for many people here! ZZ-II August 29th, 2006, 11:18 PM yeah, welcome Renniks :) renniks August 30th, 2006, 07:27 AM Thanks ZZ-Il and Goss, The villa I'm buying is on Palm Jebel Ali (so I don't expect to see anything for a few years!). I keep an eye on this thread as it gives me some idea of what to expect. Bullish on Dubai August 30th, 2006, 08:17 AM Hi Renniks/Goss, You're quite right, I bought a garden home Grand Foyer (mediterranean) with the extra floor. At the time it cost a premium of Dhs600,000 and the option to have this had to be declared by a certain date - tho' I can't recall when this was but it was certainly quite early on. It's my clear understanding that it wasn't possible to choose an extra bedroom/floor after this date passed - even though it would have been easy extra cash for Nakheel and therefore surprising that they weren't more flexible. I think the extra 1,000 sq ft is fantastic and I'm really pleased that I chose it. To be honest, we really don't need the space and we've no clear idea what to do with it but it was a bargain at the time. It would certainly make a great entertaining area as it's got a large balcony and is relatively high up and so has a great view. My advice to anyone looking to purchase a garden villa in the second hand market would be to go for the extra floor as I don't think they're commanding much of a premium right now and are therefore relatively undervalued. I suspect that once the villas have been handed over a lot of people will be kicking themselves for not taking the option. After all, with a built up area of 6,000 sq ft they're only a little behind the signatures at 7,000sq ft. I've also got 2 atrium entries and I chose the extra (5th) bedroom for an additional Dhs200,000 for both of these. I didn't take the extra floor as I thought that the rent I'd need to charge to cover the cost would simply be too high to make economic sense. BTW I visited the sales office the other day and it looks as though Frond E will be occupied first (no surprises there), followed by D and then B,A & C. The latter two probably in Jan/Feb but all a bit fuzzy at the moment. No idea what's happening to the fronds on the other side, I'm afraid. Alt-Tab September 4th, 2006, 06:06 AM Just got back from Dubai, didnt get a chance to visit the Palm, as I was only there for a 8 days with my family. View from beach at Madinat http://img452.imageshack.us/img452/7198/cimg0285sa4.jpg Zoomed http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/9869/cimg0286al9.jpg Sunset view http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/4320/cimg0298au2.jpg AltTab Salty September 4th, 2006, 06:38 PM Beautiful looking photographs Alt-Tab. The Shorelines look very stately and quite finished too. Any rumours on which Shorelines will be released when? Any rumours at all? jash September 4th, 2006, 07:33 PM Anyone have any recent photograph' of Canal Cove Townhouses. I have been in cintact with The Palm reference hand over of phase 1 and the hve stated it could be as late as february in their opinion, even though they initially quoted late November or early December 2006. :bash: Salty September 6th, 2006, 07:56 PM Latest from Nakheel to PJ buyers: Welcome to the September monthly update for The Palm Jumeirah. 2006 is certainly a big year for Nakheel; perhaps our most important year to date with the delivery of the first residences on our signature project. The Palm Jumeirah truly is a creation of epic proportions and it is a priority to ensure that the first phase is completed on schedule and the process of delivering villas and apartments to you, our customers, can begin without delay. Villa sequencing is currently being finalized and the logistics and processes involved will be conveyed in next month’s update. You will be notified via email and regular updates will continue to be added to www.thepalm.ae, the new version of which will go live during September and will feature more information, images and news on the development of the island. Great progress is being made on a daily basis - we are regularly opening up roads on the island which allow for greater access and mobility of construction vehicles, including the road networks on the fronds which provide access to the villas; some of the Shoreline Apartments are entering the finishing stages; the lighting for the streetscapes is now fully functional; while the process of adding several kilometres of beachfront to the fronds began this month. A major milestone was reached this month with the opening of the Gateway Bridge for construction traffic. The Gateway Bridge, which has taken two years to construct, connects The Palm Jumeirah to the mainland; the North Bridge and South Bridge are five lanes each, with each direction spanning 360 metres in length and 26 metres across. The opening of the bridge is a significant step forward in the preparation for the handover of property which commences at the end of this year, allowing the easy access to the island for potentially 40,000 workers and 5,000 construction vehicles each day. The foundations for the path of The Palm’s Dh1,400-billion monorail transit system were also completed this month. The 5.4km long transport system will run between the Gateway Station and the Atlantis Station on the crescent, calling at two intermediate stations on the way at Trump International Hotel & Tower, and the Village Centre. The early works contract for The Gateway Tower, which will house the Gateway Station has been awarded to the Japanese company Taisei. The concept design and usage of The Gateway Tower is currently being finalized and it will be sensitively integrated into the island’s overall master plan. When complete, the monorail will initially carry up to 2,400 passengers per hour per direction in four separate trains, each made up of three cars. At full capacity, the figure will rise to a maximum of 6,000 people in nine vehicles. Palm District Cooling has awarded the Japanese engineering company, Shinryo Corporate, the contract to supply more energy efficient cooling systems on the island. This will significantly reduce the environmental impact of the systems, reducing CFC emissions by using 50% less of the energy used by more conventional methods. Two plants will distribute chilled water across a network of 15 kilometres of underground pipes to cool the second phase of the island – mainly being the hotels. The flagship destination Atlantis, The Palm is rising from the depths of the Arabian Gulf and slowly taking shape on the crescent. After months of design and development planning, construction work began in December 2005 and since the initial ground breaking, building progress has maintained a steady pace. The 16 tower-cranes were erected within the first three months; all of the 2,000 piles and associated foundation works have been completed and the concrete superstructure, which will support the Royal Tower Hotel, Conference Centre and Entertainment Village, is rapidly rising. In the past week, the interior fit out contract, work about Dh93 million has been awarded. The astonishing marine habitats are being erected in unison with the surrounding buildings and the concrete structure for the stunning Ambassador Tank, which will be home to 65,000 marine creatures, is also completed. Simultaneously under construction is the 42 acre waterscape adventure park, where the foundations for the Ziggurat Temple, which incorporates all the water rides, have been completed. Opening in November 2008, the Atlantis, The Palm will utilise the 112.5 acre site with 42 acres of water park amusement and further marine and entertainment attractions. Finally, accompanying this update, you have also received a brochure and DVD detailing the OPUS multi-room entertainment system. This is an excellent optional facility for your villa, which we have ensured contains the technology needed for the system’s installation. Salty September 6th, 2006, 09:49 PM Please don't tell me that we are going to have an enormous "Gateway Tower" at the base of the island. The Trunk just can't stand another whopping great tower (much as I like Skyscrapers). germantower September 6th, 2006, 10:16 PM So we will have something like a landmark tower at the Palm?Except of the Trump Hotel tower?Can anybody confirm that and if so show us where exactly this will be?! TowerPower September 6th, 2006, 10:55 PM The 'Gateway Tower'. Sounds very promising, can't wait to see the design. And Salty, I'm pretty sure it will be on the mainland, not the trunk. dubaiflo September 6th, 2006, 11:43 PM ^^ yes it will be, i guess where the Sales centre is right now Salty. germantower- what else do you want than the Trump Tower as centerpiece :weird: Naz UK September 7th, 2006, 12:19 PM I wonder how the residents of Dubai Pearl would feel about the Gateway Tower potentially blocking out some of their glorious view of the Palm... Salty September 7th, 2006, 02:12 PM The 'Gateway Tower'. Sounds very promising, can't wait to see the design. And Salty, I'm pretty sure it will be on the mainland, not the trunk. Phew. Hope you and Flo are right Towerpower. Sorry to be such a NIMBY, but ... Krazy September 7th, 2006, 02:22 PM wow talk about a bad deal for some of the Dubai Pearl investors.... Richard Head September 9th, 2006, 03:24 PM Took a few pics last weekend, only just found time to post. Overall level of progress on the Shorelines was dissapointing. I would be happy to bet that there will not be a single resident in there before January. End of Al Tamr http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/8990/img0790dl9.jpg (http://imageshack.us) This hole in the ground is the beginning of Trump building http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/3490/img0783hb7.jpg (http://imageshack.us) Some good progress has been made on the road through middle of shorelines http://img320.imageshack.us/img320/6762/img0784an2.jpg (http://imageshack.us) Managed to get to beach side of the Shorelines. Amazed at the space between the apartments and the beach. This pic is one of the health clubs (I think). Clearly only just started, can't imagine this will be ready when the apartments are, and this one was the furthest advanced of any of them!! http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/909/img0788it4.jpg (http://imageshack.us) This one is on the spine between fronds, looking back towards shorelines, shows the pillars for the monorail on right of pic. http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/1015/img0792du2.jpg (http://imageshack.us) And finally, couple of shots of Khushkar canalside as requested by Maltster. http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/4751/img0799ik4.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/9716/img0800te8.jpg (http://imageshack.us) Alt-Tab September 9th, 2006, 04:34 PM Richard, Thanks for the pictures, great effort again, its nice to have them in higher resolution this time. I also agree the shorelines wont be handed over this year. We will be lucky to get a pre-handover inspection visit, before the end of the year. Side by side progress http://img384.imageshack.us/img384/1922/kushkarwi4.jpg AltTab TowerPower September 9th, 2006, 11:30 PM Very nice pictures. Thanks. dubaiflo September 10th, 2006, 12:24 AM nice shots, really glad the monorail is properly under construction, this time Nakheel showed more sensible and faster planning than the Dubai Municipality ;) anyway the shorelines look good, but at least 4 months from completion if you ask me. CrazyDave September 10th, 2006, 01:48 AM Thanks for the excellent photo's. The construction is taken awhile. But, it is going to look great when it's finished !!! Salty September 10th, 2006, 11:20 AM Nice one Richard. Especially good to see the Beach Clubs are under construction too. For me, the private beaches are one of the great attractions of owning a Shoreline. With plenty of distance beween the apartments and the water the Beach Clubs and beaches should be superb places to wile away the endless sunny days ... Not too long now. I mean, what's another four or five months when you've waited (in my case) two and a quarter years? Shokran sadik. maltster September 11th, 2006, 05:25 PM Thanks for the updates Richard, appreciated as always. Particularly as we never get anything like this from Nakheel, ever. Delighted but very surprised that the beach clubs are under construction. You would think that it is the sort of thing that they would announce - either to the media or in one of their newsletters or on their website. It is of massive interest to all shoreline owners. Lazyd September 11th, 2006, 11:33 PM Thanks for the updates Richard much appreciated Between which buildings was the picture of the Beach club taken? waaz1 September 12th, 2006, 01:08 AM Thanks for the pics! I really like how the windows on the top floor have the palm tree shape LumiUkko September 12th, 2006, 08:36 PM BTW, Google has updated their maps of Dubai (http://googlesightseeing.com/maps?p=954&c=&t=k&hl=en&ll=25.118618,55.135151&z=14). Richard Head September 13th, 2006, 06:53 AM Thanks for the updates Richard much appreciated Between which buildings was the picture of the Beach club taken? Can't remember for sure, but I think it was the 2 buildings on beach side closest to the shore. HRS September 13th, 2006, 01:17 PM Hi Guys, I've been following this thread for a while now and must congratulate you on the standard of info you all provide. A big thumbs up from me!!! I have a shoreline in Plam terrace and DAMAC are really very abysmal at keeping me abreast with the current situation re handover. I was wondering if anyone else on here are in Palm Terrace and have/are receiving regular updates. Thanks again and keep up the good work. Goss September 13th, 2006, 11:39 PM Richard- just seen your latest great pictures-thanks yet again.They really are appreciated by all of us.Did you manage to see if any progress has been made on the Fronds? Krazy September 15th, 2006, 04:38 PM sept 1 http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/8292/2663240560064822389daupzifsjk2.jpg Richard Head September 23rd, 2006, 09:22 AM This weeks pics coming up. Much happier with how things are progressing this week. Road through shorelines almost complete, managed to drive down here without even going through any security checks http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/4075/img0833xn8.jpg (http://imageshack.us) Few shots of the shorelines http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/8197/img0834aw9.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/5500/img0835sn2.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/4766/img0857fq8.jpg (http://imageshack.us) Beach clubs seem way behind the rest of the development http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/7407/img0860hp1.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/4752/img0862ik1.jpg (http://imageshack.us) E frond is almost done, these are the villas people will be moving into in November I imagine. All taken from the road along the middle of E frond http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/2144/img0844mi0.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/5476/img0846nv0.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/2528/img0841po7.jpg (http://imageshack.us) Richard Head September 23rd, 2006, 09:33 AM Monster private villa being built right on the tip of E frond http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/5470/img0839vl2.jpg (http://imageshack.us) Fake rocks and fountains being built at the point where the fronds join. All a bit Fred Flintstone :bash: http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/4541/img0837tt7.jpg (http://imageshack.us) This one shows the huge space between the shorelines and the beach http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/9568/img0861mw5.jpg (http://imageshack.us) And finally, i'm guessing here, but seems to be the piling in the base of the canal, must be for the monorail pillars. Any other ideas?? http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/686/img0863ar0.jpg (http://imageshack.us) jash September 23rd, 2006, 09:55 AM Hi Richard, yet again fantastic pictures Thank You :laugh: On your next visist if you have time would you be able to look at the Canal Cove Town Houses at the beginning of each fond as Im finding it hard to find out any progress in this area of the Palm. Thanks agian :applause: :applause: guy_in_dubai September 23rd, 2006, 10:09 AM wow...amazingf pics! guy_in_dubai September 23rd, 2006, 10:13 AM also, there could be a lil more delay like a few weeks because dewa are being annoying and dont have the facilities to provie PJ with electricity and wter so now nakheel have their own generator or something until dewa do something. jash September 23rd, 2006, 10:24 AM You say a few weeks delay . We have been in contact with the Palm office as we are waiting to register our child in school and can not until we get resisdency. They have told that we are realistically looking at the end of Jan beginning of Feb 07". We have a Canal Cove and a shoreline apartment. :bash: malec September 23rd, 2006, 10:58 AM Looking good. With all the construction mess cleaned up around the fronds look much more spacious now malec September 23rd, 2006, 11:21 AM BTW there's an amazing picture posted over at SSP: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=107871&page=2 dubaiflo September 23rd, 2006, 08:38 PM http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/2528/img0841po7.jpg perfect imo. looks amazing. i really think this project is stunning.. glad Nakheel did not fukc it up. and the private villas.. ;) what did u expect on the tips.. hehe. malec September 23rd, 2006, 08:59 PM Well, we can't judge that yet. Let's see what happens when people move in, or in a few years. Only then will we be able to see what the quality is like Salty September 23rd, 2006, 09:14 PM Fantastic photos again Richard. I'm putting your name forward for the next honours list! I can hear her now. "Arise Sir Dick Head." Flo - did you and your family buy a Shoreline in the end? Krazy September 23rd, 2006, 09:41 PM Agree with malec... too early to judge the quality.. great pictures btw! Dr Dubai September 24th, 2006, 01:56 AM Hi Richard thanks for the pics they're excellent! I'm a bit bothered by the photos of the beach club on the shorelines though! :( looks like they are going to block the sea views of quite a few apartments...in your expert opinion do you think the sea view from the second floor on a B type will be over now??..If so i'm selling quick!...bloody hell! dubaiflo September 24th, 2006, 03:01 AM we did not buy one to date.. i am still not sure if Burj Dubai complex or the shorelines..but i have come to the point that if shoreline, it must be sea facing. Dr Dubai September 24th, 2006, 01:05 PM Not if you have a huge health club blocking the view from your balcony!! aaargh :gunz: :hammer: what the hell is wrong with these developers!! talk about crap layout planning...I'm on the phone to Nakheel today to get some straight answers! If anyone else out there can confirm if the "sea views" from the second floor on the sea facing shorelines (B type) will be blocked by the health club please let me know...(ps look at Richard's pics again..sure as hell looks like it to me) poo! :scouserd: :drunk: :lurker: :wallbash: :badnews: germantower September 24th, 2006, 01:52 PM I have a question. When the palm is finished will people who dont own a villa or book a hotelroom can enter the palm? Rcd September 24th, 2006, 03:28 PM There are shops & services available so I would think you can go there with out havinghotel booked. germantower September 24th, 2006, 03:56 PM Cul cuz it will be a fantastic sight.especially the trump one for scraper enthusiasts. Salty September 24th, 2006, 04:03 PM If anyone else out there can confirm if the "sea views" from the second floor on the sea facing shorelines (B type) will be blocked by the health club please let me know...(ps look at Richard's pics again..sure as hell looks like it to me) poo! :scouserd: :drunk: :lurker: :wallbash: :badnews: I don't know for sure Doc Dubai but there certainly seem to be a good few low down apartments whose views will be disrupted by health clubs. Not just B types but A types too. Some of them even look as though they will just face a health club wall. If this is the case buyers of these apartments would have very legitimate grounds for complaint and, in my view, refund of their money if they don't want to proceed. Failure to have a sea view from those Shorelines would surely constitute a breach of contract, wouldn't it? I mean, you're not getting what you're supposed to be getting. I'd have a very close look at the terms of the contract if your fears are proven to be well-founded. ZZ-II September 24th, 2006, 04:52 PM great updates waaz1 September 25th, 2006, 08:17 AM sorry double post :bash: waaz1 September 25th, 2006, 08:18 AM http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/2528/img0841po7.jpg This looks exactly like Arizona, minus the workers on the streets. It seems like a lot of the projects in Dubai are very similar to ones in the Phoenix/Scottsdale area. Goss September 25th, 2006, 08:38 AM Except the Houses in Arizona dont have a beach as a Garden Lazyd September 25th, 2006, 01:11 PM http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/9829/img0862ik1gq2.th.jpg (http://img132.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0862ik1gq2.jpg) Dr Dubai I think yor second floor B type would still get a reasonably unresrticted view (image highlighted with what I think would be your balcony) Krazy September 25th, 2006, 07:52 PM $52 m Palm Jumeirah district cooling contract win for Shinryo http://www.itp.net/pictures/news/4p3main.gif The final district cooling contract to be awarded for the Palm Jumeiraj completes the cooling provision for the development. Palm District Cooling (PDC) has awarded a US $52 million (AED191 million) contract to Japan’s engineering company, Shinryo Corporation, for the construction of two chiller plants on the Palm Jumeirah. Shinryo will construct the two chillers providing 49,000TR for the second phase of the Palm Trunk Jumeirah development. They will link up with the approximately 15km of main header pipework system that runs around the Palm Trunk, connecting the development’s hotels and apartment blocks. The plants will consist of large centrifugal chillers – widely recognised as the most energy-efficient means of providing cooling for large-scale developments. With 12 large compressor modules, ten having a capacity 4500TR each, the facility will require approximately 44MW of electrical power at peak load conditions during the summer; this is about 50% of the electrical power required for conventional cooling systems. Keith Levers, chief executive officer for Palm District Cooling commented: “Our decision to award the contract to Shinryo followed a comprehensive review of a number of proposals and was based on our requirement to procure the most efficient and cost-effective solution.” The contract with Shinryo is the last of the contracts to be awarded for the district cooling for the whole of Palm Jumeirah. A total of eight plants are being constructed, encompassing a total capacity of 230,000TR on the whole Palm Jumeirah development. Kenji Yamamoto, general manager of Shinryo Corporation, Dubai said: “We are very pleased to partner Palm District Cooling. This is our third project for Palm District Cooling that is being managed through our Dubai office. ” District cooling systems distribute thermal energy in the form of chilled water from a central source to multiple buildings through a network of underground pipes instead of using one local system for each building, thus creating both economic and environmental benefits. In addition to reduced CFC emissions and better noise control, the system uses only 50% of the energy required for conventional methods. AltinD September 25th, 2006, 08:13 PM Interesting, Japanese companies are getting alot of contracts from Nakheel lately. All Emaar and DP chiller plants contracts have been awarded to American companies. It seams DW is "boycoting" them after what happened early this year propably looking for Port deals in Japan. ;) Emir of Ketir September 26th, 2006, 07:57 AM Yep, I have noticed that as well :-) Dr Dubai September 28th, 2006, 05:26 PM Thanks Salty and Lazyd for your comments!! :hi: ...Lazy for some reason I can't access the image you posted :? any chance you could post it again??...Nakheel are "looking into it" :blahblah: and getting back to me this week. Just as I was gaining some optimism from your post lazyd I found out today that the "second floor" is actually the first floor and the "first floor" will actually be the ground floor of the building!...don't know if that changes matters regarding the image you sent? :dunno: Nakheel have been quick to point out that this is in the contract! :devil: For the rest of you some very good news!!...30 day notices of key handovers for many of the shoreline apartment buildings will be going out very soon!! It means some of you guys could be sitting in your apartments well before the end of this year i.e November/December...the rest latest end of January!!...I've been told Jumeirah International are busy kitting out the apartments now!!! :pepper: ps don't worry it's a very reliable source! Salty September 28th, 2006, 10:27 PM For the rest of you some very good news!!...30 day notices of key handovers for many of the shoreline apartment buildings will be going out very soon!! It means some of you guys could be sitting in your apartments well before the end of this year i.e November/December...the rest latest end of January!!...I've been told Jumeirah International are busy kitting out the apartments now!!! :pepper: ps don't worry it's a very reliable source! WOW Doc! If those time scales are accurate I'm going to have trouble sleeping soon. My excitement level clicked up several notches on reading your post. At long long last we could be pretty much there. Christmas on the Palm! We might have to share it with a few thousand construction workers for 3 or 4 more years, but vertical smiles won't bother us. I'll be wearing a pretty impressive horizontal one. :laugh: Thanks for the news, and I hope things work out for you with regards to the views. Salty PS Anyone know why my sailboat is flicking in and out of our dimension? Salty September 28th, 2006, 10:58 PM Where will I do my Christmas shopping? No village centre yet. Word has it there are one or two other half-decent shopping options nearby. Salty September 28th, 2006, 10:59 PM PS Anyone know why my sailboat is flicking in and out of our dimension? Smooth sailing has been restored. Let me take this opportunity to wish you all fair winds and calm seas this Ramadan. Richard Head September 29th, 2006, 10:19 AM Salty, Absolutely no need to worry about shopping options. Mall of the Emirates is a 5 minute drive away, and must be one of the best shopping malls (not to mention biggest) anywhere in the world. Also the one with the indoor ski resort. www.malloftheemirates.com And a couple of very nice bars adjoining it if you want to leave the ball and chain doing the retail therapy and kick back with a cold one. Regarding handover dates, soory to rain on everyones parade, I consider myself an optimist, but I still don't believe people will be living in these apartments in November, even December is a real stretch. I would guess more likely Feb / Mar for most. Would love to be proven wrong though. Was there this morning, and whilst things are now progressing very rapidly, given that none of the blocks have all of the windows in, I find it hard to believe that interior fitout has started, saw no evidence of that myself. The good news is that the road down the middle of the shorelines is now open (there are signs saying no unauthorised access, but security shows no interest in stopping people, I just drove on). That might not last for long once word gets out I suppose. Salty, sorry mate but the bad news for you and I is that Al Tamr looks like being one of the last blocks to be completed, probably at least a month behind those blocks that are nearest to completion (Kushkar and the others near the shore). On another positive note, with the way the island is constructed, and the underground parking running off the centre road, the ongoing construction won't affect us too badly (especially those facing the road, ironically). OK there will still be landscaping etc. to do, and the beach clubs will be a bit behind, and I still think the true value of these apartments will be realised only by 2010 when Mr. Trump hangs up his trowel, nevertheless it's not nearly as bad for us as the villa owners, who will be facing a daily drive through a huge building site for many months (years?) to come. Overall though, have to say - Happy Days right around the corner. Richard Lazyd September 29th, 2006, 04:10 PM Doc Link to image below http://img132.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0862ik1gq2.jpg Goss October 1st, 2006, 09:02 AM Hi Richard.Thanks again for the news updates.Did you manage to see if much progress had been made on Frond A? paul g October 3rd, 2006, 11:15 AM hi, does anyone have any information on the oceana development that is on the palm. or has anyone else purchased there? i have purchased a 2 bedroom apartment there, i keep getting monthly updates from the developers who swear that handover is going to be 1st april 2007 (i think there might be a joke in there somewhere!!) but the project has only just broken ground and regardless of the amount of e mails telling them that they are being a bit ambitious with the handover date they are still adamant that handover will be on the projected date. anyone else know anything about this development?? guy_in_dubai October 3rd, 2006, 08:01 PM will be going to the palm this friday inshallah. any requests? dubaiflo October 3rd, 2006, 08:29 PM give us as many photos as you can, i really want to see some more villas, streets, etc, maybe you can check out the construction on the crescent. ZZ-II October 3rd, 2006, 11:17 PM a pic from the construction site of the trump tower would be gread i think. TowerPower October 4th, 2006, 07:37 AM A shot of the tunnel and bridges would be nice. freakwave October 4th, 2006, 12:09 PM Well here you are :-) Thanks to my wife who arranged the heli-flight for my birthday! http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/9949/palmtunnelvz0.th.jpg (http://img218.imageshack.us/my.php?image=palmtunnelvz0.jpg) guy_in_dubai October 4th, 2006, 02:45 PM nice! happy bday btw and i'll try the best i can...but theres a chance i mite go...well fingers crossed ZZ-II October 4th, 2006, 03:54 PM Happy Birthday freakwave :). great shot! is it from october 06? maltster October 6th, 2006, 05:44 PM Al Khushkar, Al Basri - looking good http://i12.tinypic.com/2wp7zp3.jpg Al Hamri, J Hamond http://i12.tinypic.com/4hn9qc2.jpg J Hamond, Abu Kiebel http://i12.tinypic.com/40b2uzc.jpg Al Shala, Al Tamr - look a month or so behind the rest.... http://i12.tinypic.com/2uemhso.jpg maltster October 6th, 2006, 05:55 PM upper trunk - Al Hawalli and Al Sarrood looking well behind the pace...... http://i12.tinypic.com/2zp2gdg.jpg Me, with my apartment to the right of my head... http://i12.tinypic.com/49judqc.jpg CrazyDave October 6th, 2006, 10:50 PM The Palm Jum is one of my favorite Projects. Thanks for posting the photo's, can't wait for the day the Trump Tower and everything else on this Man Made Island is finished. jash October 7th, 2006, 01:11 PM Anyone had this months news update yet? Is it the shoreline apartments that will be released for handover first or are they just releasing from the trunk upwards as they are completed? Also Im eager to find out progress on the Canal Cove Townhouses at the start of each fond. If there is anyone out there have any pictures or news I would be really grateful. Stephan23 October 7th, 2006, 04:55 PM Oct. 2: http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/7316/pj1002062js7.jpg http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/1754/pj1002066sx5.th.jpg (http://img228.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pj1002066sx5.jpg) http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/8398/pj1002063cv1.th.jpg (http://img228.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pj1002063cv1.jpg) http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/3528/pj1002064bs3.th.jpg (http://img228.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pj1002064bs3.jpg) http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/9318/pj1002061pd8.th.jpg (http://img135.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pj1002061pd8.jpg) http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/2626/pj1002068nw9.th.jpg (http://img89.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pj1002068nw9.jpg) http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/5828/pj1002065la7.th.jpg (http://img89.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pj1002065la7.jpg) http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/2334/pj1002067iq6.th.jpg (http://img91.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pj1002067iq6.jpg) Yesterday (Oct. 6): http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/9252/pj100606szalontaifamilyjb1.jpg szalontaifamilly dubaiflo October 7th, 2006, 05:06 PM awesome, see another project on the crescent has started, i saw this from madinat jumeirah already. isn't that where the Al Seef resort is supposed to be? panda82 October 9th, 2006, 10:40 AM Hello all you Palm J owners, I have just started to read this thread and need to ask some questions. I have just moved to Dubai, and am waiting for delivery on an apartment in jbr on the 25th floor in the double tower C06-T06.2.... except as I am watching jbr getting ready, I am getting a little claustrophobic by the buildings.....I also have an option for a shoreline apartment ......It's in AL Hallawi building 14 on the 5th floor......My questions are? I think this is a Canal facing apartment? Do you know if it will have some sea views? it's a type A apartment sq ft = 2152 sq feet, does that include the terrace? Does anyone know how far the beach club will be from this Block? and will there be shops or grocery stores by the date the handover.... Basically I would like your opinion if I should move to jbr or the palm, which do you think will be better and why? thanks.... Bullish on Dubai October 9th, 2006, 04:51 PM Richard mentioned a couple of weeks ago that he managed to get onto the trunk without being stopped by security. Just for the hell of it I tried yesterday (spur of the moment so no camera I'm afraid) and it really was remarkably easy. I drove over the main bridge connecting the shore with the trunk and met the first security guard. I just told him that I wanted to go to Frond C and he waved me through - no problem at all. To my surprise I was then driving down the main drag between the shorelines but had to do a u-turn just before the half way point where the road rises like a flyover. This looked closed to all traffic. Security showed me the way and were very friendly. I then tried to drive out to the fronds but the security there is a completely different matter. The guards directed me to the security pass portakabin but there was no chance of getting any further without a letter from Nakheel. Disappointing as I really wanted to see the villas, but good news for anyone who wants to get close to the shorelines.:scouserd: Stephan23 October 10th, 2006, 10:03 AM By Slugbelch (SSP) 07.10.2006 http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/8481/pj100706raminthemiddleeastfb3.jpg http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/3366/2638393094960d91a2dosi4.th.jpg (http://img91.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2638393094960d91a2dosi4.jpg) http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/5107/pj1007063raminthemiddleeastwm4.th.jpg (http://img228.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pj1007063raminthemiddleeastwm4.jpg) mits October 11th, 2006, 09:11 AM Hello people I'm new to this site - and what a WICKED site it is!!!!!!! I've been following all of your comments on this thread for quite a while!!!! My names Mit's and i'm a Dentist in London. I've Now finally decided and scraped together enough to buy a Garden home on Palm Jumeirah on Frond M. The villa number is in the 40 ish... 4.8 mill DHMS the fellow wants which sounds cheap, If all paperwork is correct is it a bargain or are the prices coming down.??? Thanks Mitesh LIVE AND LET LIVE Bullish on Dubai October 11th, 2006, 10:13 AM Hi Mitesh, Sounds cheap to me. I understand that 4 bed garden villas are generally trading between Dhs5.3-5.8m depending on location. Prices are creeping up prior to completion, so I'd be very surprised if there is a genuine seller at 4.8m for a villa in the 40's. I'd treat with great caution if I were you, but good luck if you really can buy at that price. It would definitely be a baragain. 4-5 months ago there were a number of villas supposededly offered at that kind of level, but I've no way of knowing if anything traded. P.S. A neighbour of mine has a garden villa on frond M and she recently heard of a 5 bed on that frond going for Dhs6m. I don't have any other details tho'. mits October 11th, 2006, 10:35 AM Thanks for the reply bullish on dubai!!!!!!!! Is there any types that are more sought after than others! the villa i'm offered is medditeranian! Any other questions i need to ask? Sorry if some of these questions sound daft!!!!! Thanks again!! Mits LIVE AND LET LIVE mits October 11th, 2006, 11:51 AM Ha Ha Ha Agent says there was a typing error!!!!!!!!!! Not 4.8.... but 5.5million med atrium2 5 bedroom Bloody agents!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL Is it worth it......????????? Going rate or cheap?????? I thought 4.8million was too cheap LOL You were right 'bullish on dubai' Mits LIVE AND LET LIVE numnut October 11th, 2006, 06:55 PM Dudes & Dudettes, looks like Nakheel have finally tarted up their website...... with precisely zero information that we dont already know. A triumph of style over content. http://www.thepalm.co.ae/ Salty October 11th, 2006, 07:31 PM Dudes & Dudettes, looks like Nakheel have finally tarted up their website...... with precisely zero information that we dont already know. A triumph of style over content. http://www.thepalm.co.ae/ Yeah, just noticed that Nummers. There's a "Resident's Hub" hotlink subtitled, "Information and Services for Palm Jumeirah residents." As yet it is not active. Hopefully it will become so in a day or two. I suppose this is where we will eventually be given details about the timetable for the imminent release of the villas and Shorelines. Wonder if they'll send us individual passwords to access the "hub" when it's up and running? Bullish on Dubai October 12th, 2006, 08:16 AM Hi Mits, What you need to find out whether the villa is Atrium Entry 2 (i.e. with an extra floor of around 1,000sq ft) or simply an Atrium Entry with a 5th bedroom. The former cost an additional Dhs600,000 over the base price, the latter an extra Dhs200,000. If the villa has the extra floor it's cheap and I'd reccommend you snap it up. If it's just the 5th bed it's still fairly reasonably priced but not a steal. Hope this helps. Goss October 13th, 2006, 10:53 PM Ive seen 5 Bedroom Antrim 11`s going for these sort of numbers: http://www.key2dubai.co.uk/villa_details.asp?PropID=4886 Maybe a bit inflated but I was offered 6.2 for my Villa by the agent who sold it to me for 5.3 back in March.(I think the position on Frond A with the view of the Burg helped) I cant help thinking the Villa prices will soar as the Island progresses so my opinion would be to snap it up if you can get one for 5.5. Bullish seems far more in tune with the Dubai market than myself but I just have a feeling there is a lot more to come-just a hunch. Salty October 13th, 2006, 11:15 PM I think you're right Goss. As the island progresses to its finished state prices will rise steadily. Four or five years from now prices will probably peak and level off. But they will be a lot higher than today. Wish I had a crystal ball though ... By the way Goss and Bullish, nice to see you guys posting. Nearly there at last! dubayyy October 14th, 2006, 01:04 PM I can't seem to see the new Palm website - still getting the old version. Any ideas? Goss October 14th, 2006, 01:41 PM Nice one Salty-you must be buzzing with the rapid progress the Shorelines are making! Im back in Dubai next Thursday fo the duration of School holidays.First thing I will do is hire a car and try to drive uo the road between the Shorelines-who knows I may even get to Frond A Cant wait to meet up for a beer Salty and with quite a few others here on the forum-you know who you are! My only regret-Frond A seems to be last on the list to be finished... Salty October 14th, 2006, 01:50 PM Goss - according to Richard Head and his last photographs I'm in the same boat as you. Al Tamr looks as though it will be among the last of the Shorelines to be finished (probably about January or February time). I'm sure all our new homes will be worth waiting for though. Dubayyy - The Palm website seems to have reverted back to the old format. The new one was only on display for a matter of hours I think. Nakheel probably didn't want to raise expectations that they might be about to post some hard information on when we can all start getting our keys! I'll certainly be up for a BIG night out in the New Year. panda82 October 14th, 2006, 02:38 PM Well any thoughts on jbr vs the palm shorelines? looks like Al Hallawi is no where near ready. I called the palm office and they told me that all the shorlines will be released at the same time? Dates to be announced at the end of November... When I told them that someone else at the palm said Feb/March for Al Hellawi, they said that the person got that wrong! Is Dubai a city of MIS-INFORMATION? I am really confused as I am waiting to move into either JBR or the Shorelines, and need to do some planning, but there seems to be no point........Richard Head, if you are around can you take some pictures of AL-Hellawi, by the way how do you manage to get so close? Salty October 14th, 2006, 02:54 PM Panda - Myself, I would prefer to live in a Shoreline but I'm biased because I've bought one. The fact they are on the PJ is in their favour straightaway. They are spacious and will be quality products. But the thing that really swings it for me is that all you have to do is stroll to the shore and you will have access to a private beach club with fantastic views of the Burj (and ultimately the marina etc). The problem is that the Shorelines were originally due to be ready for occupation this spring (perhaps even earlier). If they are released in November/December they will be at least six months late. Nakheel have said the Shorelines will be released in December, but looking at their state of completion we on this Forum are very dubious that this will be so. Some of the Shorelines look much further ahead than others (e.g. Al Khushkar) while others don't look as though they can possibly be ready before January of February at the earliest (e.g. Al Tamr and Al Hallawi). Until the timetable for handover is published by Nakheel on its website no-one really knows when the Shorelines will be released. We don't know whether or not they will be released in phases. Have you been told the truth on this by Nakheel? Dunno. Sorry I can't be more helpful Panda. Hopefully we will be given reliable information soon. Good luck. dubaiflo October 14th, 2006, 09:22 PM Reefs: http://img417.imageshack.us/img417/8728/unbenannt1kopieeb1.jpg germantower October 15th, 2006, 01:22 AM What use will those teo strange formed islands have?The two ones left and right at the bottom of the trunk? Krazy October 15th, 2006, 03:14 AM Nakheel to hand over 4,000 Palm Jumeirah units from December Nakheel will hand over the first batch of keys to the owners of the multi-million dirham villas and apartments in The Palm Jumeirah in December, according to a senior company executive. “The first phase of The Palm Jumeirah will commence handover by the end of 2006. It is staggering to think that just five years after the first grain of sand was placed in the Arabian Gulf, we will soon welcome our very first residents,” Manal Shaheen, director of sales, marketing and customer service, told Emirates Today. “The hand over procedure would include a combination of villas and apartments,” Shaheen added. The procedures for the handover, however, will commence on November 30, according to Shaheen. “The entire process of handover involves various steps such as notifications, visits and so on. We will hand out the keys after all the procedures are through. But the owners who have already made all their payments and just need to finish the registration process, will be able to claim their keys within a week’s time,” she said. The first phase of The Palm Jumeirah is on schedule now after suffering a year’s delay earlier on. Nakheel had announced in July 2005 that the residents of the Palm Jumeirah would not be handed over proper ties until November 2006, one year later than expected. The company had justified the delay by telling customers the delay was to ensure that the completion of the project is to the highest quality. When quizzed on the completion date for the island’s first phase, Shaheen did not reveal an exact time period but said that the handover of more than 4,000 villas and apartments is a “considerable logistical task”. “We are aware that our many customers around the world are excited about moving into their homes on The Palm Jumeirah and demand will be high. “It is impossible to move everybody in at once so there must be a controlled and phased programme,” she said. Residential is just one seg ment of the massive development, with retail and hospitality still to be fully realised. The future phases of The Palm Jumeirah include completion of The Golden Mile (a retail boulevard to be located along the trunk of The Palm Jumeirah), 32 five-star hotels located on both the crescent and the trunk of the project, and the opening of the Dh1.4billion Palm Monorail in December 2008. “The only way to develop a project of such an enormous scale is over a phased period. We found that there was a large demand from owners to develop residences in a short time frame. It was, therefore, decided that the large proportion of residences on The Palm Jumeirah would form the first phase of the development,” says Shaheen. Salty October 15th, 2006, 11:11 AM Nice one Krazy. So now we, sort of, know (a bit). Good old Emirates Today too. jash October 15th, 2006, 12:03 PM Nice one Krazy. So now we, sort of, know (a bit). Good old Emirates Today too. I have had an email dierect from Nakheel today (Sarah Sultan). She has advised me that during the next week there will be an official letter that will be sent out soon after that to their customers with regards to the handover procedure of their properties and the site visits. Fingers crossed in the next two to three weeks some of us should have recieved this letter and will know more:speech: dubaiflo October 15th, 2006, 01:04 PM ^^ interesting article... i can't wait to see PJ progressing, i think it is along with Burj Dubai the most amazing project at the moment. What use will those teo strange formed islands have?The two ones left and right at the bottom of the trunk? those are the Palm logo Islands, so not a strange formed thing ;) but there have been rumours about a park,wildlife park, private mansions, everything,.. nothing confirmed though. guy_in_dubai October 15th, 2006, 01:07 PM Ive seen 5 Bedroom Antrim 11`s going for these sort of numbers: http://www.key2dubai.co.uk/villa_details.asp?PropID=4886 Maybe a bit inflated but I was offered 6.2 for my Villa by the agent who sold it to me for 5.3 back in March.(I think the position on Frond A with the view of the Burg helped) I cant help thinking the Villa prices will soar as the Island progresses so my opinion would be to snap it up if you can get one for 5.5. Bullish seems far more in tune with the Dubai market than myself but I just have a feeling there is a lot more to come-just a hunch. there are quite a few villas below 5.5 in the newspaper these days dubaiflo October 15th, 2006, 01:19 PM http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l201/victorpp/DSC_1223.jpg by VictorPP Goss October 15th, 2006, 06:30 PM `Guy in Dubai`-I think a lot of the Villas advertised at less than 5.5 are either `lost leaders` or 4 Bedroom (not 5) at the beginning of the Fronds.From what Ive been told its actually quite difficult to find resale Villas on the Palm at the moment. numnut October 15th, 2006, 07:18 PM Oh well Salty old chap it seems like only your good self and I were privvy to Nakheels updated web offering (before they bottled it and took the site down). Makes you wonder if they've got somebody eyeballing this forum on a regular basis. If they have then I'm sorry for what I said about your site... now just put it back up and stop being childish. Krazy October 16th, 2006, 12:38 AM http://www.gulfnews.com/images/06/09/28/28_nt_palmjumeirah8_gn_5.jpg http://www.gulfnews.com/images/06/09/28/28_nt_palmjumeirah10_gn_5.jpg http://www.gulfnews.com/images/06/09/28/28_nt_palmjumeirah4_gn_5.jpg http://www.gulfnews.com/images/06/09/28/28_nt_palmjumeirah1_gn_5.jpg vandal97 October 16th, 2006, 04:47 AM those are some nice pics! :D Thanks Krazy Goss October 16th, 2006, 09:23 AM Krazy great pics but when were they taken? I do hope they were not recent as the villas look far from completion to me. malec October 16th, 2006, 10:19 AM Nope they're not that recent. Check the size of emirates crown to see. http://gulfnews.com/images/06/09/28/28_nt_palmjumeirah6_gn_5.jpg Dubai-Dreamin October 16th, 2006, 10:46 AM No they are not new they are from a selection in todays Gulf News :) dubayyy October 16th, 2006, 02:39 PM Has anybody else received the email from Nakheel (Sarah Sultan) as mentioned by Jash508? The last communication I had from her was a few weeks ago and have not heard anything in the past few days. Also if anybody is interested I have just had a quote for furnishing my F-Type. I requested a luxury package and was quoted just over 100k AED. Let me know and I can PM the details. Dubayyy jash October 16th, 2006, 04:50 PM Has anybody else received the email from Nakheel (Sarah Sultan) as mentioned by Jash508? The last communication I had from her was a few weeks ago and have not heard anything in the past few days. Also if anybody is interested I have just had a quote for furnishing my F-Type. I requested a luxury package and was quoted just over 100k AED. Let me know and I can PM the details. Dubayyy I have only heard from Sarah Sultan because we were enquiring of any progress. They are not very forth coming unless they are asked direct questions. dubayyy October 16th, 2006, 06:48 PM I have only heard from Sarah Sultan because we were enquiring of any progress. They are not very forth coming unless they are asked direct questions. Ahh..that clarifies it. I thought I'd missed an official 'monthly' update from Nakheel. Thanks Jash D jash October 16th, 2006, 06:57 PM Ahh..that clarifies it. I thought I'd missed an official 'monthly' update from Nakheel. Thanks Jash D WE HAVE NOT RECIVED AN OFFICIAL MONTHLY UPDATE FOR QUITE SOME TIME NOW. ANYONE HAD SEPTEMBERS OR EVEN OCTOBERS?? I ASO MANAGED TO GET A QUICK LOOK AT THE NEW "PALM WEBSITE" BEFORE IT WAS REMOVED AND REPLACED WITH THE ORIGINAL. NO NEW PHOTOGRAPHS OR NEWS I NOTICED!:dunno: docc October 17th, 2006, 12:19 AM Whats the system for the furnishings? 100k includes what exactly? guy_in_dubai October 17th, 2006, 01:54 PM nice pics and im interested about the furnisihing options...wwhere did the furniture come from what came in it etc Escoto_Dubai2008 October 17th, 2006, 07:52 PM WOW this picture are great, these enormous houses are beutiful, Jumeirah Palm is wonderful, I hope they finish soon this great project. dubayyy October 18th, 2006, 07:38 PM New palm website online again. www.thepalm.ae d err...seems to back offline again, swear i saw it earlier this afternoon.... dubaiflo October 18th, 2006, 08:19 PM it is online and there are some awesome renderings and shots of villas and construction!! check it out.. i love this project more and more. edit: they keep changing content all the time, we'll have to wait a few days until it runs properly i guess. :rofl: just saw this: http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/9342/unbenannt1kopiepg4.jpg worldsignia October 18th, 2006, 11:10 PM :uh: zee October 18th, 2006, 11:25 PM :rofl: btw there isnt a "the world part II" thread paul g October 19th, 2006, 12:28 AM hi, does anyone have any information on the oceana development that is on the palm. or has anyone else purchased there? i have purchased a 2 bedroom apartment there, i keep getting monthly updates from the developers who swear that handover is going to be 1st april 2007 (i think there might be a joke in there somewhere!!) but the project has only just broken ground and regardless of the amount of e mails telling them that they are being a bit ambitious with the handover date they are still adamant that handover will be on the projected date. anyone else know anything about this development?? just posted this for the second time because i didnt get a reply which means either no one knows anything about this project (which worries me a bit) or everyone was engrossed in the news about the villas that they forgot to share any info they know with me. any info would be appreciated. thanks malec October 19th, 2006, 01:22 AM Well, here's the thread. http://www1.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=133816&page=2 April 2007? :hahaha: You can see it here on the very left: http://gulfnews.com/images/06/09/28/28_nt_palmjumeirah3_gn_5.jpg dubaiflo October 19th, 2006, 12:37 PM ^^ this pis is not that recent though. but anyway, completion has been delayed to 2008 officially already, i wonder why they insist on 2007 in the emails. Alt-Tab October 19th, 2006, 03:45 PM Just got this via email (I am in Al-Hallawi) It is anticipated that the notice to complete for your property will be issued by the April 1, 2007.!!! Dear Sir/Madam: Re: The Palm Jumeirah – Completion update – We are pleased to inform you that commencing from November 2006 Nakheel will be issuing the notices to complete for The Palm properties setting out the contractual Completion Dates (being 30 days from the date of the notices). With the notice to complete purchasers will receive a Circular setting out the completion process. The final payment will be due on the Completion Date and you will be able to book two visit dates to view your property during the 30 day notice period. The hand over arrangements and details of how to book appointments for property viewing will be set out in the Circular. The entire handover process will involve more than 4,000 villas and apartments which is of itself an enormous task. Nakheel’s handover team is committed to ensure that this process will be carried out as efficiently as possible and will be utilizing a phased programme to ensure an orderly handover of the properties. It is anticipated that the notice to complete for your property will be issued by the April 1, 2007. The Palm Jumeirah is a pioneering iconic development that is unrivalled anywhere in the world; an incredible feat of engineering that has involved constant innovation and has overcome many challenges. We look forward to welcoming you to The Palm Jumeirah community. We will be in touch with you in the near future with a further update. For and on behalf of The Palm Jumeirah LLC Manal Shaheen Director – Sales, Marketing, Customer Services & Sothebys maltster October 19th, 2006, 04:56 PM ^^ I took a few photo's when I was over there last month (on page 8). It was obvious that Al Hallawi, together with Shahla, Tamr & Sarrood, were behind the pace, but even I never thought there would be a further delay of this length. Feb 2007 I thought. dubaiflo October 19th, 2006, 05:57 PM so until everybody moves in, we are talking about mid 2007 here. jash October 19th, 2006, 06:38 PM So who will be getting the handover in December???>( >( Some of the Villa's look completed maybe they will be before the Shoreline and Trunk. Has anyone else had any new correspondence from Nakheel? maltster October 20th, 2006, 09:43 AM Anybody heard of any progress on the GM ? I was in Dubai earlier this month but could see no evidence that it had broken ground. Considering how long it's taken to construct the shorelines I cant see the GM being completed before the second half of 2008 even if they started now. dubayyy October 20th, 2006, 02:13 PM Progress on the Golden Mile is excruciatingly slow. Since starting work on the site almost a year ago IFA have only completed the shorings for this development. I was told by a contact within IFA that the rush is on to complete IFA's Palm Fairmont Resort and indeed this may even complete prior to GM. It is also likely that the next payment instalment which is due in Dec 06 (taking payments to 70%) will also be delayed by 3-6 months. I think IFA internally are already projecting a completion date of very late 2008 at best. Ridiculous when you consider this development was launched and sold in Mid 2004 and originally scheduled for completion in mid 2006. Regardless at the current rate of construction, it looks that Oceana and maybe also the Marina Apartments will complete prior to the Golden Mile. D jash October 20th, 2006, 10:27 PM Has anyone been on to the Palm recently as Im really missing all the amazing photograph's along with the updates. The progress on the Fronds and Shorelines must really be coming along nicely. We are getting really close to some of the initial handover letters being released. :speech: Biakko October 20th, 2006, 11:21 PM Just got this via email (I am in Al-Hallawi) It is anticipated that the notice to complete for your property will be issued by the April 1, 2007.!!! Dear Sir/Madam: Re: The Palm Jumeirah – Completion update – We are pleased to inform you that commencing from November 2006 Nakheel will be issuing the notices to complete for The Palm properties setting out the contractual Completion Dates (being 30 days from the date of the notices). With the notice to complete purchasers will receive a Circular setting out the completion process. The final payment will be due on the Completion Date and you will be able to book two visit dates to view your property during the 30 day notice period. The hand over arrangements and details of how to book appointments for property viewing will be set out in the Circular. The entire handover process will involve more than 4,000 villas and apartments which is of itself an enormous task. Nakheel’s handover team is committed to ensure that this process will be carried out as efficiently as possible and will be utilizing a phased programme to ensure an orderly handover of the properties. It is anticipated that the notice to complete for your property will be issued by the April 1, 2007. The Palm Jumeirah is a pioneering iconic development that is unrivalled anywhere in the world; an incredible feat of engineering that has involved constant innovation and has overcome many challenges. We look forward to welcoming you to The Palm Jumeirah community. We will be in touch with you in the near future with a further update. For and on behalf of The Palm Jumeirah LLC Manal Shaheen Director – Sales, Marketing, Customer Services & Sothebys I think this is an anticipated April fool... Halawala October 21st, 2006, 02:11 AM But, the apartment blocks on the main trunk of the Palm are almost complete. Are these set for 2008? dubaiflo October 21st, 2006, 01:36 PM ^^ no, as claimed before, april 2007. jash October 21st, 2006, 01:45 PM ^^ no, as claimed before, april 2007. Dubaiflo are you saying ALL shoreline apartments will not be occupied until April 2007 and Nakheel have just been giving us all false hope for December 2006 or January 2007? What about any of the Town Houses? dubaiflo October 21st, 2006, 02:54 PM ^^ read post 202. Salty October 21st, 2006, 03:21 PM Just got this via email (I am in Al-Hallawi) It is anticipated that the notice to complete for your property will be issued by the April 1, 2007.!!! Alt-Tab, Thanks very much for the info. in your posting. I have not yet received a similar email. It is now clear that there will be a phased release of Shoreline apartments and villas probably starting in late December/early January and continuing well into the spring. The "behind the pace buildings" (such as yours and mine) that were identified by Richard Head and Maltster will be the last to be released. At least Nakheel is now showing us the courtesy of giving us a firmish timescale. Hopefully by April/May time the Shoreline side of the Trunk will be looking much more finished, with landscaping etc pretty well-advanced. Once again it is disappointing to see the dates for completion of our homes receding a bit. However, I am sure our patience will be rewarded eventually when (at last) we begin to enjoy our unique, unsurpassably located, and beautiful properties. See you next Easter?? Salty dubayyy October 21st, 2006, 04:01 PM Received the Golden Mile update earlier today. Visit www.ifahotelsresorts.com/studitalia - at last we can start visualising the interiors of the Shorelines Enjoy - D Golden Mile - October 06 Update We are delighted to issue the latest Palm Golden Mile project update and recent photographs. We hope you find the update helpful as we want to provide you with some key insights in reference to the extensive ground work that is currently taking place. Many of our clients are in regular contact with IFA’s Client Relationship Department here in Dubai and as a result, we have been able to answer many specific questions asked by owners. We hope that most of your queries will be answered in this update. We have completed the extensive underground work to prepare the foundations so that the main construction process can proceed. We currently have a work force of 1,800 on the Palm Golden Mile site, working three shifts a day, seven days a week. This workforce is estimated to peak at around five thousand in the months ahead as the project progresses. For those of you who are technically inclined, the statistics on the site so far are: We have excavated 300,000 cubic meters of soil We have bored over 2,000 piles into bedrock We have poured a staggering 20,000 cubic meters of concrete All this was carried out prior to the main contractor starting their work. We are also very please to confirm to all owners that after an 18 month process, we can confirm that the necessary building permits and approvals have all been received and work is well under way. The two underground basement parking areas are now complete on Palm Golden Mile 2 and we will be able to share more information with you over the coming months in addition to distributing up to date photos to keep you informed of construction progress. The Palm District Cooling, suppliers of chilled water for the Air Conditioning on the Palm, will have their main plant located on the Palm and will be fully commissioned within the next two months. This means that by the time you take possession of your property the A/C system will have been tried, tested and be fully operational. We understand owners’ frustrations with not being able to view their building’s progress yet. Please understand that The Palm Jumeirah is officially a building site, and as such visitors are not allowed due to insurance and health and safety reasons. We will advise you as soon as there is a possibility to arrange site visits, but this will not be for some time. Due to the vast number of construction workers and professionals, which we believe to be in excess of 15,000 at present, the Master Developer has had to place a number of new restrictions to prevent the general public from accessing the site. All the old passes for key project personnel have been changed and reissued. You may be aware that IFA Hotels & Resorts (IFA HR) are preparing the first of our Dubai projects, the Shoreline Apartments on the Palm Jumeirah, Al Haseer and Al Nabat, for occupation by their owners during the first quarter of 2007. To assist our owners and to ensure a stress free occupation, we have teamed up with the prestigious design company Studitalia and have developed an exclusively designed interior package which is being manufactured in Italy at present. Studitalia have worked on projects including the world renowned Grosvenor House on the Dubai Marina and The Fairmont Dubai. This stylish interior package includes full installation, branded equipment and contemporary accessories, to ensure that all you have to bring with you are your suitcases of clothing. The demand for the Studitalia interior package has been very encouraging and we trust you will be delighted to know we will also offer the same interior service to our Palm Golden Mile clients. We will be working on the Palm Golden Mile interior package over the coming months and will forward information regarding designs, prices, visuals, etc once they have been finalized. For further information on Studitalia, please visit www.ifahotelsresorts.com/studitalia. In addition to this service, we have also developed a host of complimentary services including property snagging using one of the world’s leading facilities management company, property management and rental services and relocation services. IFA HR will be opening a new Sales Office in Jumeirah in December this year. We’ve secured a superb location directly opposite the Burj Al Arab and will use the facility to showcase a mock up of a Palm Golden Mile Apartment two bedroom, Type E, as well as introducing advanced technology to view IFA HR projects in different locations around the world. Experienced Sales Consultants will be at hand to help will all your enquiries. Contact details for the Jumeirah Office will be made available in due course. Meanwhile, our Head Office located in Dubai Media City remains open for business as usual and contact details remain unchanged. The Palm Jumeirah recently achieved a major milestone, with the opening of Gateway Bridge, which has taken two years to construct and now connects the Palm Jumeirah to the Sufouh Interchange leading to Sheikh Zayed Road. The two bridges have six lanes with a span of 360 metres and are 26 metres wide. The first phase of construction on The Palm Jumeirah includes over 1,400 villas on the fronds of the island and 2,500 shoreline apartments within the twenty buildings located on the East side of the trunk. The bridge will ultimately provide a state of the art transport artery that will service the islands many residential and commercial facilities. The Atlantis development on the crescent of The Palm Jumeirah will boast one of the largest water parks in the Middle East. To ensure ease of access and to reduce the numbers of vehicles on the island, the Master Developers, Nakheel, are busy installing an electric monorail which will travel from the Gateway to Atlantis. A further advantage will be that monorail stations will be constructed at the base of The Trump Tower and within the Trump Plaza, the shopping mall at the top of the trunk. The Trump Tower and the Village Centre are in the final design stages and construction work is expected to start early in 2007. The Palm currently has The Gateway Towers, The Palm Golden Mile, The Shoreline Apartments, The Fairmont Palm Hotel & Resort, The Fairmont Palm Residences, the Oceana Hotel and Apartments and the Atlantis Towers. Several other hotels are under construction on the Crescent; the final completion will result in a distinctive and highly sought after development that will remain unique in the world. The re-sale market is starting to pick up and we anticipate once residents and tenants start to occupy the Palm Jumeirah this will have a positive effect on the re-sale market. Currently, there appears to be a shortage of properties based on rental demand which is good news for the Palm Jumeirah. We look forward to maintaining contact with all our clients and please do not hesitate to contact us should you require any further assistance. For the latest company news, please visit www.ifahotelsresorts.com . Wishing you all the best The Client Relationship Management Team Goss October 21st, 2006, 04:01 PM Just recieved this: Dear Sir/Madam: Re: The Palm Jumeirah – Completion update – PJFRA052 We are pleased to inform you that commencing from November 2006 Nakheel will be issuing the notices to complete for The Palm properties setting out the contractual Completion Dates (being 30 days from the date of the notices). With the notice to complete purchasers will receive a Circular setting out the completion process. The final payment will be due on the Completion Date and you will be able to book two visit dates to view your property during the 30 day notice period. The hand over arrangements and details of how to book appointments for property viewing will be set out in the Circular. The entire handover process will involve more than 4,000 villas and apartments which is of itself an enormous task. Nakheel’s handover team is committed to ensure that this process will be carried out as efficiently as possible and will be utilizing a phased programme to ensure an orderly handover of the properties. It is anticipated that the notice to complete for your property will be issued by the May 10, 2007. The Palm Jumeirah is a pioneering iconic development that is unrivalled anywhere in the world; an incredible feat of engineering that has involved constant innovation and has overcome many challenges. We look forward to welcoming you to The Palm Jumeirah community. We will be in touch with you in the near future with a further update. For and on behalf of The Palm Jumeirah LLC Manal Shaheen Director – Sales, Marketing, Customer Services & Sothebys Salty October 21st, 2006, 06:05 PM Goss - So it looks as though you can anticipate moving in on or around the twentieth of June 2007. Alt-Tab should get his keys on or around the 30th of April. Suddenly it seems like a long time off again. But at least now you guys have a pretty definite date. Wonder when Manal will send us our email? I think Al Tamr owners should be getting their keys around the same time as Alt-Tab. We should know soon anyway. Nice update as well Dubayyy. And thanks for the furniture package details you sent through. Could be worth getting a quote from Studitalia? jash October 21st, 2006, 06:16 PM I also have recieved this email........:gossip: Thank you for your email. In reference to your below email please, kindly be advised the occupancy for Palm Jumeirah apartments and villas will start from December, 2006 and the handover of the properties will be done in phases and our handover team is working on a schedule. Additionally please note that your apartment will be in Phase 1, which will take 90 Days, which is between December to February. Should you require any further assistance on any issues concerning your property, please feel free to contact us again. Once again we thank you for investing with Nakheel, where the vision of Dubai gets built. Best regards, Sarah Sultan Customer Service Coordinator Customer Service Centre Nakheel LLC Dubai Goss October 22nd, 2006, 06:20 AM It looks that way Salty-just when you want to be moving into a new house-July in Dubai!Cant wait to move the new furniture about in 50C. ASnyway I am in Dubai now and am just about to visit the nakeel office.Managed to get a taxi onto the trunk yesterday and drive half way up it before being turned back.The Shorelines did look great I might add and it looked to me they were putting the final touches on a number of buildings Bullish on Dubai October 22nd, 2006, 04:54 PM I haven't received my couried package from Nakheel yet (they're being sent out over a 7 day period) but I spoke to Nazir on the Sales & Marketing team as I didn't want to wait until the end of the week to discover my fate. I have 3 garden villas on C Frond and, based on trips to the Palm office and various conversations over the past couple of months, I was working on a move-in date of some time around January. If I hadn't already seen Goss's post I would probably have fallen off my camel when he told me that my dates were 1st June and 10th June! Fine - I fully accept that mega projects like this are almost bound to be delayed, but the fact that Nakheel have obviously kept this delay up their sleeves for the last few months is particularly galling. I wouldn't mind nearly so much if their supposed 'updates' gave us a true picture of what's going on, but to be treated like infants is simply not acceptable. They're undoubtedly good at providing PR for anything that is a puff for Nakheel, but their policy of providing information on a 'need to know' basis for their buyers (where they clearly think that we're happy to live in blissful ignorance) totally stinks. Anyway, enough of the rant because it's nothing that you guys don't know already. The tragedy is that it would all be so easy to avoid if somebody actually bothered to give it a moment's thought. I think I've managed to winkle out from Nazir the rough schedule for the handover of the villas. It's something along the following lines: Nov. 10-15 villas on E Frond. (That way Nakheel can say that they met their 30 Nov deadline). Dec. E Frond. Jan/Feb. D Frond. Feb/March. F Frond. March/April. A & B Fronds April/May. A & B Fronds June. C & M Fronds June/July? L & O Fronds Being more focused on the villas than the shorelines, regret I don't have any meaningful schedule. All I know is that these are for handover between Nov and June/July. Disappointed? You bet!! Slightly Less Bullish On Dubai:down: Goss October 22nd, 2006, 05:58 PM Yes Bullish-paid a visit to the Nakheel Centre today to find out how much truth was in the email.Was handed the official letter informing me handover for Frond A is sheduled for June/July......Was also told that Frond C will be one of the last on the list so I can understand your dissapointment.Basically we have another 6 month wait longer than expected! Apparently most of the villas are now completed (!!???)-the extra wait is due to the complexity of the handover process(6 months???).Apparently Nakheel havnt lied to us as the Villas have been completed on shedule as promised(what?)-yes these are just a few of the excuses I heard today. To be honest I am gutted but there is absolutly nothing I can do as we are all in the hands of one extreme lying marketing machine. Salty I think you may be looking at May/June old chap from what I heard today. How about that drink at the end of the next Ramadam? jash October 22nd, 2006, 06:23 PM Goss and Salty, How frustrating for us all! We were hoping to spend Xmas in our shoreline apartment in Jash Falqua (as yet to hear of a definate handover) and then move into our Canal Cove Townhouse in the New Year but the confusion Im facing is this property is at the entrance of Fronds C and D. So will it be a Jan/Feb handover with Frond D or a June/July with Frond C? We have not yet received our official packs from Nakheel only an email when we have put a question forward about handover. Anyone else in either a Canal Cove or Jash Falqua that can confirm things I would be very grateful. Stephan23 October 23rd, 2006, 01:30 PM By Slugbelch (SSP) backround Oct. 16: http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/9297/world101606theothersideofmsempe9.png theothersideofmsem Alt-Tab October 24th, 2006, 06:15 PM 23.10.2006 http://www.nakheel.com/News/Palm-gets-ready-for-first-residents/ Nakheel CEO Chris O’Donnell speaks about the handover of the first residences on The Palm Jumeirah How many villas and apartments on The Palm Jumeirah will be delivered by the end of the year? “Little more than five years ago Nakheel estimated that the first properties on The Palm Jumeirah would be complete by the end of 2006, and I’m delighted to say that around 500 customers have already been informed that their home is ready for handover by the end of November this year. “Properties for our initial purchasers were originally estimated to be delivered by November 2006 and for later purchasers on the re-sales market by May 2007. I am delighted to say that handover has commenced within the contractual time frames and all homes will be delivered to their owners within a few months of the initial estimate. “Considering the size, scale and innovative nature of the project, it’s testament to the drive and commitment of all involved with the project that we have been able to deliver within the contractual time periods. It is indeed a credit to all of our staff, consultants, and contractors all of whom will regard this project as the highlights of their careers and businesses.” When will all of the villas and apartments be completed? “It’s staggering to think that little more than five years after the first grain of sand was placed in the Arabian Gulf we will welcome our very first residents to The Palm Jumeirah. We have spent many months planning to ensure that this process goes as smoothly as possible. I am 100% confident in the team we have put in place; however, bearing in mind the numbers of handovers and the logistics involved, throughout this process we look to our residents to exercise patience and understanding. “By the end of April 2007, all 20 Shoreline Apartment buildings located on the east side of the trunk will be ready for handover to customers; approximately 3,000 properties - 75% of the total in phase one - will be ready for handover to customers by April 2007; and it is anticipated that all ‘Completion Certificates’ will be issued to customers by June 2007.” What has contributed toward the additional time in delivery? “The Palm Jumeirah is the first man-made landmark since the Great Wall of China to be visible from space. Land reclamation on this size and scale, and with the complexity of shape such as a palm tree, has never been attempted before let alone achieved. There is simply no way to calculate the exact time such a project would take and that is why we provided in our customers’ contracts sufficient flexibility to allow for the additional time that unknown factors may require. “Our customers understand this, and not one customer has wanted to walk away, just as we have remained committed to them. It is simply astounding to think that Nakheel has not only reclaimed the world’s largest man-made island, but that the first phase of this enormous project will be completed within just a few months of the initial estimates. “The Palm Jumeirah is an incredible feat of engineering, a project that has involved constant innovation. There have been challenges that no one has ever faced before and our world class engineers have risen to meet these challenges on every occasion. However, the journey does not end here; in fact this is just the end of the beginning. Over the next 3-4 years, as the tourism phases of the island develop, The Palm Jumeirah will become one of the world’s premier resorts, offering 32 beachfront hotels, and a wealth of retail, entertainment and leisure choices.” How long will the handover process take? “The handover of more than 4,000 villas and apartments is a considerable logistical task; we are aware that our many customers around the world are excited about moving into their home and demand for early access will inevitably be high. It’s impossible to move everybody in at once so there must be a controlled and phased programme. We have therefore scheduled a phased handover cycle of intervals of ten days commencing 1st November 2006. It is anticipated that all ‘Completion Certificates’ will be issued to customers by June 2007.” Have all owners been informed of their handover dates? “We have written to all residents informing them of the date that their notice of completion is expected to be issued. As I have already mentioned, due to the logistics of the entire operation it is impossible for all our purchasers to move in at once. Letting customers know now when they can expect their handover is of paramount importance to enable them to plan accordingly. How does the handover process work? As soon as homes become ready for occupation on The Palm Jumeirah we will notify our customers and they will be able to book two property visits. Bookings should be made within 30 days of this notification either online or via the call centre on a first-come first-served basis. It is our aim to schedule the handover on the 30th day after the ready for occupation notification, provided customers have completed all financial obligations. To ensure an unobstructed move-in, customers must again use the booking system where slots will be allocated on a first-come first-served basis and are dependant upon the move-in activities of other residents. When they move into their new home, residents will receive a handover pack providing key information such as transport, safety, waste removal, and details of local shops and facilities. How will ongoing construction effect residents once they have moved in? “After listening to our customers we found that there was a large demand from owners to develop residences in a short time frame; it was therefore decided that the large proportion of residences on The Palm Jumeirah would form phase one of the development. Residents will move in before the leisure, retail and tourism components are completed and all efforts have been made to ensure that ongoing construction causes minimal disruption.” What has been the market acceptance of the Palm Jumeirah? “It is well documented that The Palm Jumeirah was an immediate success as a real estate product; when villas went on sale back in 2002 they sold out in just 72 hours. Since then The Palm Jumeirah has proved to have been an unparalleled investment with average premiums of 70-120%; incredibly, some of these properties have achieved a premium of 300%. I believe this is a ringing endorsement by the market of the quality of product that is being delivered.” dubayyy October 24th, 2006, 06:37 PM “We have written to all residents informing them of the date that their notice of completion is expected to be issued" I have had no communication from Nakheel regarding this. Anybody else in the same position? From those Shoreline Apartment owners who have received official notification it would be good to hear when your respective buildings will be complete. Thanks D jash October 24th, 2006, 06:54 PM We had a phone call from Nakheel yesterday to say we would be hearing in the next 7 days. We did ask them to email us also as it would be quicker. They have said that our Town house on C/D frond they anticipated they would notify us by May 2007 (anticipate?? Does this not give them room for yet more delay?) Anyway we have not been told of our Shoreline apartment handover date . We did give them a call yesterday morning only to be told all their handover team were on Holiday until this Thursday and there was absolutely nobody that could answer our questions! Can you believe they all go off on annual leave together. How crazy is that considering they have just released all the handover information and they may actually be needed to answer vital queries from their "valued investers". Does anyone have any shoreline handover dates?? dubayyy October 24th, 2006, 07:13 PM Hi Jash508 I guess Nakheel staff, like the rest of Dubai, are enjoying their Eid holidays until Thursday. But doesn't explain why some of us have received official handover notices and others not. Anyway let me guess...you have a D Type apartment, fifth floor in Jash Falqa building...right? :) jash October 24th, 2006, 07:16 PM Yeah real give away in the name. What about you Shoreline or Villa? dubayyy October 24th, 2006, 07:25 PM Me. Shoreline, in Al Anbara, Canal Facing. I will be in Dubai again next week and will try and drive onto the Palm and take some pics. jash October 24th, 2006, 07:30 PM Your a star if you can. Even Nakheel are saying they have not got any up to date pics of Shorelines or Townhouses. We are just desperate to get over there and get sorted as so our little one can get a school place etc. Im also not looking forward to another British winter. A.U.S. arch. Student October 24th, 2006, 08:08 PM does anyone know what color are the domes on the shorlines apts. going to be; and the beige color of the building are pretty bland like jbr; is this the final color, hopefully not. it needs more color to make it stand out, considering its part of the '8th world wonder.' vinouz October 24th, 2006, 10:43 PM it is online and there are some awesome renderings and shots of villas and construction!! check it out.. i love this project more and more. edit: they keep changing content all the time, we'll have to wait a few days until it runs properly i guess. :rofl: just saw this: http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/9342/unbenannt1kopiepg4.jpg Nothing unusual here : if you look closely, the stairs are branching in two directions : going upward, ant following into the corridor. The first march of the corridor branch accomodates the circular stairs this way. Dune October 25th, 2006, 08:45 AM Notice received this morning. "It is anticipated that the notice to complete for your project will be issued by January 10, 2007". Was out yesterday to look at it; I seriously have my doubts. Will try to take a few pics and post soon. maltster October 25th, 2006, 09:26 AM “We have written to all residents informing them of the date that their notice of completion is expected to be issued" I have had no communication from Nakheel regarding this. Anybody else in the same position? From those Shoreline Apartment owners who have received official notification it would be good to hear when your respective buildings will be complete. Thanks D ^^ same as that! No response to my email enquiries either. Alt-Tab October 25th, 2006, 11:13 AM http://www.tradearabia.com/tanews/newsdetails_snCONS_article113292.html Villa handover to begin at Palm Jumeriah Posted: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 Dubai-based Nakheel has said that it will hand over 500 properties on its The Palm Jumeirah island by the end of the month, a report said. This is about six months after the planned delivery date, said the Gulf News report. The company said by April, 3,000 of the 3,900 apartments and villas - valued at up to $4.3 million apiece - will be ready for hand-over, including all shoreline apartments on the east side of the trunk, said the report. The remaining properties will be delivered soon after completion certificates are issued in June, the company said. "The original completion date was May 2006, there was an extension to Nov-ember and we've extended it further to ensure the infrastructure is complete and the quality of the villas. It is well within the bounds of the contractual arrangement," Nakheel CEO Chris O'Donnell was quoted by the Gulf News report as saying. No compensation is being offered to buyers on The Palm Jumeirah. Instead, owners may sell their villa back to Nakheel for the original sale price, plus interest. "No one has taken up the offer yet," said O'Donnell. Villas on The Palm Jumeirah went on sale in 2002 for between $700,000 and $1.25 million. They have been advertised for resale for $1.6 million to $4.3 million. Richard Head October 25th, 2006, 11:29 AM Just got my email (after ringing up the sales office and asking for it, seems letters are on the way) I'm in Al Tamr and have been given March 1st, so +30 days from there i'll be on my balcony with a bottle of wet and fizzy. Salty, seems Easter is April 8th, looks like you might just make it, i'll bring an extra glass!! Cheers Richard Salty October 25th, 2006, 02:37 PM Just got my email (after ringing up the sales office and asking for it, seems letters are on the way) I'm in Al Tamr and have been given March 1st, so +30 days from there i'll be on my balcony with a bottle of wet and fizzy. Salty, seems Easter is April 8th, looks like you might just make it, i'll bring an extra glass!! Cheers Richard Great news Richard. I haven't heard anything from Nakheel yet, but if you're sitting one floor up on March 31st, we should be too! It'll be "Ice cold in Dubai" not Alexandria this Easter. Thanks buddy, Salty Alt-Tab October 25th, 2006, 03:36 PM September 18, 2006 NASA http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/3039/palmisast2006261lrgfz5.th.jpg (http://img99.imageshack.us/my.php?image=palmisast2006261lrgfz5.jpg) Click for Hi-Res dubaiflo October 25th, 2006, 03:46 PM i just LOVE it.. and that MUST be Dubai Waterfront on the left of PJA!! how green this whole EL,JI area has become, .. looks great! also notice the islands around palm deira, and see the BB creek extension around the creek end itself. malec October 25th, 2006, 03:55 PM What a map! Some stuff going on with the lagoons aswell dubaiflo October 25th, 2006, 06:49 PM ^^ i am not sure of that one, it could be just some random stuff. pflo777 October 25th, 2006, 08:48 PM today a german newspaper reports, that there are some serious problems with the palm developments, while the first people move in. The problem is, that the water doesnt change at the rate they hoped it would. Therefore, it smells bad over the palm. http://focus.msn.de/immobilien/immobiliensuche/dubai_aid_25577.html?DDI=2209 the article also states, that the design for jebel ali will be changed, to prevent the water to smell so bad and increas the water fluctuation. An interseting picture is posted also: http://pg.squids.images.focus.de/img/gen/5/L/HB5LII1E_Pxgen_r_385xA.jpg you can see the palm"leafes" sepreated from the trunk to prevent the water from becoming to warm Alt-Tab October 25th, 2006, 09:14 PM The problem is, that the water doesnt change at the rate they hoped it would. Therefore, it smells bad over the palm. The water stagnation issue on Palm Jumeirah was addressed 2 or 3 years ago during the land reclamation phase. Two inlets were cut into the crescent to increase water flow, water quality and odour is not a problem. the article also states, that the design for jebel ali will be changed, to prevent the water to smell so bad and increas the water fluctuation. Palm Jumeirah and Palm Jebel Ali have gone throught various re-designs since the original launch, most of the changes have been due to Nakheel wanting to increase profits by increasing real estate density you can see the palm"leafes" sepreated from the trunk to prevent the water from becoming to warm Land reclamation has not been completed at Palm Jebel Ali once complete the fronds will connect to the trunk in the same way as Palm Jumeirah. Alt-Tab Maybe i should get job with Nakheel PR :-) BankerMan October 25th, 2006, 09:21 PM The issue raised by pflo777 above was admitted to by PJ's CEO in this article from Gulf News -- but, in general, a very upbeat article on PJ: PS: For those who want to leave a comment on this article, you can do so at the end of the article. Nakheel unfazed by project delay (http://www.gulfnews.com/business/Development/10077316.html) By Robert Ditcham, Staff Reporter Dubai: Nakheel's chief executive insists the company has no regrets about The Palm Jumeirah, despite facing design problems and completion delays. Dubai-based Nakheel, which has a property portfolio of $30 billion (Dh110.34 billion), says it will hand-over 500 properties by the end of the month - up to six months after the planned delivery date. By April, 3,000 of the 3,900 apartments and villas - valued at up to $4.3 million apiece - will be ready for hand-over, including all shoreline apartments on the east side of the trunk. The remaining properties will be delivered soon after completion certificates are issued in June, the company says. "The original completion date was May 2006, there was an extension to November and we've extended it further to ensure the infrastructure is complete and the quality of the villas. It is well within the bounds of the contractual arrangement," Nakheel CEO Chris O'Donnell told Gulf News. "With a project of this nature with so many challenges and unknowns, I'd much rather extend the date to ensure that the customer experience is right, rather than keep to a date that has been set." No compensation is being offered to buyers on The Palm Jumeirah. Instead, owners may sell their villa back to Nakheel for the original sale price, plus interest. "No one has taken up the offer yet," said O'Donnell. Villas on The Palm Jumeirah went on sale in 2002 for between $700,000 and $1.25 million. They have been advertised for resale for $1.6 million to $4.3 million. Since land reclamation began in August 2001 rumours emerged that villas were subsiding, allegations O'Donnell strongly denies. "I'm not aware of any settlement problems that we've had on the island at all," he said. "The virbro-compaction compacted the land mass and there's no major movement issues at all that we're experiencing." But he admitted the overall design was "tweaked" to deal with issues such as sand deposits due to poor water circulation. "Two openings on either side in the middle of the breakwater were put in to allow greater water movement. There wasn't a huge amount of movement in the area between each frond so we put in pools which force water movement. The water issues have definitely been resolved," he said. The Palm's luxury villas have come in for criticism for being placed too close together. O'Donnell said the density was acceptable "compared to other beachside locations in major cities in the world" and would be the same for villas on The Palm Deira and The Palm Jebel Ali. According to O'Donnell, Nakheel has gained from The Palm experience. "If there's one thing I would have done differently if I was here five years ago I would have put in place the permanent roads and infrastructure as my first priority. "But I still think it's miraculous that here we are 60 months on and we will have the first residents moving onto The Palm and living here. That in itself is a miracle considering where this has come from." - With inputs from Bloomberg dubaiflo October 25th, 2006, 09:38 PM oh my, this article is pretty bad, i wonder what there sources are.. it is typical german to be honest.. especially the commentaries below.. :bash: pflo777 October 25th, 2006, 10:39 PM yeah, those comentaires below are really soooooooo typical german....:evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: sometimes I really dont wonder, where germanys problem come from... Ger Link October 25th, 2006, 10:40 PM "you can see the palm"leafes" sepreated from the trunk to prevent the water from becoming to warm" The satellite map posted today shows the fronds already connected to the trunk at th PJA. The picture must be well before september which is when the map was taken. So it looks like April for me as I`m in Al Tamr (D type), at least I will be able to get some scoops on the furniture / rental options from some of you guys that move into your shorelines earlier. Please keep posting when you guys move in so me and the others can do a bit of virtual moving in until April. Take care all. malec October 25th, 2006, 11:21 PM About the smell, only one way to prove it. Go there and see for yourself. True Blue October 26th, 2006, 01:12 AM About the smell, only one way to prove it. Go there and see for yourself. Malec, you can't see a smell :doh: maltster October 26th, 2006, 09:11 AM "It is anticipated that the notice to complete for your property will be issued by the January 20, 2007." ^^ :cucumber: :cheers1: However, whats the betting that come 20th January I will be doing this :wallbash: :gaah: instead - following some other delay??! dubayyy October 26th, 2006, 09:18 AM "It is anticipated that the notice to complete for your property will be issued by the February 10, 2007." Joy...at last Stephan23 October 26th, 2006, 09:58 AM yeah, those comentaires below are really soooooooo typical german....:evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: sometimes I really dont wonder, where germanys problem come from... I don't think you can say, it's typical german after the great world cup. It's only realistic. And when they say, Jebel Ali is 1 year after it's plan, than it's right. Also with the 'stinky' water!! :toilet: :toilet: Stephan23 October 26th, 2006, 09:59 AM yeah, those comentaires below are really soooooooo typical german....:evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: sometimes I really dont wonder, where germanys problem come from... I don't think you can say, it's typical german after the great world cup. It's only realistic. And when they say, Jebel Ali is 1 year after it's plan, than it's right. Also with the 'stinky' water!! :toilet: :toilet: :toilet: :toilet: :toilet: :toilet: :| :| Alt-Tab October 26th, 2006, 10:11 AM Looks like I drew the short straw.. >( Shoreline confirmed notice dates... Al Hamri # Jan 10 # Dune Al Khushkar # Jan 20 # Maltster Al Anbara # Feb 10 # Dubayyy Al Tamr # Mar 1 # Richard Head / Salty Al Hallawi # Apr 1 # AltTab jash October 26th, 2006, 10:41 AM All the confirmed Shoreline release's appear to be Canal facing only. What about the sea facing? Has no one had their notice for these? Are they going to be after all the Canal facing does anybody Know? Keep Smiling:lurker: maltster October 26th, 2006, 12:09 PM All the confirmed Shoreline release's appear to be Canal facing only. What about the sea facing? Has no one had their notice for these? Are they going to be after all the Canal facing does anybody Know? Keep Smiling:lurker: I doubt it very much. I just think that most shoreline owners on this forum happen to own canal-facers. Alle October 26th, 2006, 01:33 PM I am not surprised. There is a long way to go on the palm, they havn't even started with the greenery. But u have to take deadlines in the UAE with a pinch of salt. Actually, as a buyer u should know that before investing in the UAE. Thats just how the culture and business climate is over there. According to what i read when i wrote my historyproject about the UAE. EDIT: oops this was an answer to bullish to dubais post on page 10 i think.... Salty October 26th, 2006, 03:24 PM Looks like I drew the short straw.. >( Shoreline confirmed notice dates... Al Hamri # Jan 10 # Dune Al Khushkar # Jan 20 # Maltster Al Anbara # Feb 10 # Dubayyy Al Tamr # Mar 1 # Richard Head / Salty Al Hallawi # Apr 1 # AltTab Looks like you did draw the short straw Alt-Tab. Richard and I are not far behind you though. Great news for Maltster and Dubayyy. We tail-enders will have plenty of questions for you in due course! I feel so goood that we've at least got some real dates now. :cheers1: :banana2: Emir of Ketir October 26th, 2006, 03:59 PM An interseting picture is posted also: http://pg.squids.images.focus.de/img/gen/5/L/HB5LII1E_Pxgen_r_385xA.jpg That is probably the most recent picture of the The Palm Jebel Ali I have seen. Interesting to see that they made a makeshift access to the cresent. Shows the learning curve of Nakheel. According to O'Donnell, Nakheel has gained from The Palm experience. "If there's one thing I would have done differently if I was here five years ago I would have put in place the permanent roads and infrastructure as my first priority. Ger Link October 26th, 2006, 04:46 PM Emir of ketir If you go to post 238, posted by Alt-Tab, there is a Nasa satellite map that shows the PJA in an advanced stage to the picture above. It is a pretty amazing picture. Krazy October 26th, 2006, 10:05 PM http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/8203/pjuo3.jpg http://static.flickr.com/85/279857787_fe783e3f46_o.jpg dubaiflo October 26th, 2006, 10:10 PM look at those atlantis core! topped out anyone :D ? Golden Mile finally ready to start.. took them ages. same goes for Oceana but it now well underway, Tiara has piling started? you can see roads shaping up too, around the village centre for example. Stephan23 October 27th, 2006, 09:27 AM By Slugbelch (SSP) :omg: unbelievable!!! Oct. 26: http://img286.imageshack.us/img286/5408/pj102606xb8.jpg http://img286.imageshack.us/img286/6104/pj1026063dn4.jpg LumiUkko October 27th, 2006, 06:37 PM Looks like I drew the short straw.. >( Shoreline confirmed notice dates... Al Hamri # Jan 10 # Dune Al Khushkar # Jan 20 # Maltster Al Anbara # Feb 10 # Dubayyy Al Tamr # Mar 1 # Richard Head / Salty Al Hallawi # Apr 1 # AltTab Al Habool #Feb 10 # LumiUkko jash October 27th, 2006, 06:59 PM God how frustrating just waiting for the letter to arrive!! Maybe Sea Facing apartments will be released after all the Canal Facing. :ohno: Nads October 27th, 2006, 08:31 PM Have faith, all good things come to those who wait !!!! I am also holding my breath here....:doh: Nads "It is anticipated that the notice to complete for your property will be issued by the January 20, 2007." ^^ :cucumber: :cheers1: However, whats the betting that come 20th January I will be doing this :wallbash: :gaah: instead - following some other delay??! hady g October 27th, 2006, 08:46 PM We have received notice to complete on Feb 1st for our apt in Al Msali. Does anyone know how to go about getting a snagging list done or if there any good companies to use? Will this have to be done on one of the two visits we are allowed during the 30 day period? chippy October 27th, 2006, 09:20 PM suitcases ready for packing Salty October 27th, 2006, 09:31 PM We have received notice to complete on Feb 1st for our apt in Al Msali. Does anyone know how to go about getting a snagging list done or if there any good companies to use? Will this have to be done on one of the two visits we are allowed during the 30 day period? Better Homes can provide a snagging service. They will accompany you if you like or do it on your behalf. I don't know, but I think it is very likely you will check over the property on your two inspection days to make sure you are happy to go ahead and complete on the alloted date i.e. I think the answer to your last question is, "Yes." We got an email today officially confirming 1st of March as our 30 day notice date (Al Tamr). They are working through the inventory by the looks of it. jash October 27th, 2006, 09:39 PM Hoooraayyy at last a date for a Sea Facing Shoreline Building. Anymore out there ??? Krazy October 28th, 2006, 12:09 AM Nakheel unfazed by project delay http://www.gulfnews.com/images/06/10/24/25_bs_nakheel_4.jpg Nakheel chief executive Chris O'Donnell says by April, 3,000 of the 3,900 apartments and villas will be ready for hand-over. Dubai: Nakheel's chief executive insists the company has no regrets about The Palm Jumeirah, despite facing design problems and completion delays. Dubai-based Nakheel, which has a property portfolio of $30 billion (Dh110.34 billion), says it will hand-over 500 properties by the end of the month - up to six months after the planned delivery date. By April, 3,000 of the 3,900 apartments and villas - valued at up to $4.3 million apiece - will be ready for hand-over, including all shoreline apartments on the east side of the trunk. The remaining properties will be delivered soon after completion certificates are issued in June, the company says. "The original completion date was May 2006, there was an extension to November and we've extended it further to ensure the infrastructure is complete and the quality of the villas. It is well within the bounds of the contractual arrangement," Nakheel CEO Chris O'Donnell told Gulf News. "With a project of this nature with so many challenges and unknowns, I'd much rather extend the date to ensure that the customer experience is right, rather than keep to a date that has been set." No compensation is being offered to buyers on The Palm Jumeirah. Instead, owners may sell their villa back to Nakheel for the original sale price, plus interest. "No one has taken up the offer yet," said O'Donnell. Villas on The Palm Jumeirah went on sale in 2002 for between $700,000 and $1.25 million. They have been advertised for resale for $1.6 million to $4.3 million. Since land reclamation began in August 2001 rumours emerged that villas were subsiding, allegations O'Donnell strongly denies. "I'm not aware of any settlement problems that we've had on the island at all," he said. "The virbro-compaction compacted the land mass and there's no major movement issues at all that we're experiencing." But he admitted the overall design was "tweaked" to deal with issues such as sand deposits due to poor water circulation. "Two openings on either side in the middle of the breakwater were put in to allow greater water movement. There wasn't a huge amount of movement in the area between each frond so we put in pools which force water movement. The water issues have definitely been resolved," he said. The Palm's luxury villas have come in for criticism for being placed too close together. O'Donnell said the density was acceptable "compared to other beachside locations in major cities in the world" and would be the same for villas on The Palm Deira and The Palm Jebel Ali. According to O'Donnell, Nakheel has gained from The Palm experience. "If there's one thing I would have done differently if I was here five years ago I would have put in place the permanent roads and infrastructure as my first priority. "But I still think it's miraculous that here we are 60 months on and we will have the first residents moving onto The Palm and living here. That in itself is a miracle considering where this has come from." mission October 28th, 2006, 10:21 AM Amazing !!!!! OMG dubaiflo October 28th, 2006, 12:07 PM article is ooold samir, the only knew thing is a photo of that guy ;) anyway, i am glad you all have more or less final dates now :) Imre October 28th, 2006, 04:40 PM 28/10/2006 http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/7434/dsc0519du8.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/3192/dsc0520iw9.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/4038/dsc0521ld5.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/2245/dsc0523eb2.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/3382/dsc0524ie0.jpg (http://imageshack.us) ... and after came the security:) hehe jash October 28th, 2006, 06:33 PM Imre you have really excelled......... Again These pictures have definately made my weekend :dance2: :dance2: :dance2: :dance2: Salty October 28th, 2006, 10:53 PM ... and after came the security:) hehe Imre, you're a diamond. Great pictures. Nasrawi October 28th, 2006, 11:33 PM Al Bayan article (http://www.albayan.ae/servlet/Satellite?c=Article&cid=1161351894630&pagename=Albayan%2FArticle%2FFullDetail) «نخيل» تبدأ تسليم فنادق النخلة جميرا في 2008 كشفت المديرة التنفيذية للمبيعات والتسويق وخدمة العملاء في »نخيل« منال شاهين عزم الشركة الانتهاء من تشييد شقق المارينا وفنادق النخلة جميرا في عام 2008 تمهيدا لتسليمها للمستثمرين. ونفت شاهين بشدة ما تردد مؤخرا حول تأخر الشركة في تسليم الوحدات السكنية والفلل في المشروع ذاته »لاسيما وان العقود التي ابرمتها (نخيل) مع المستثمرين تؤكد ذلك بشكل لا لبس فيه«. وطبقا لتصريحات شاهين لــ»البيان« فان »نخيل« العقارية التابعة لدبي العالمية القابضة نجحت في بيع 75% من مشروع نخلة جميرا التي تقوم بتطويره قبالة شواطئ إمارة دبي باستثمارات غير معلنة. وأوضحت شاهين »بأن حلم امتلاك فيلا أو شقة سكنية في المشروع سيتحقق بالنسبة للذين ما زالوا يتطلعون إلى السكن في أعجوبة الدنيا الثامنة »النخلة جميرا«. وردا على سؤال حول موعد الإعلان عن بيع الوحدات السكنية في المرحلة المتبقية من المشروع أجابت شاهين »سنعلن عن ذلك قبل نهاية العام في إطار خطة تسويقية مميزة للغاية«. وأكدت على أن »نخيل نجحت في بيع 75% من الوحدات السكنية التي تم طرحها في غضون فترة قياسية ما يحملنا على الاعتقاد بأن الــ25% المتبقية ستباع بلمح البصر بسبب الإقبال غير المسبوق من المستثمرين على التملك في النخلة جميرا وأشارت إلى أن »نخيل تتلقى يوميا العديد من الطلبات التي يرجو أصحابها الحصول على فيلا أو شقة في المشروع«. وسألت »البيان الاقتصادي« شاهين عن موعد تسليم اقرب دفعة من الوحدات السكنية في المشروع لملاكها فقالت »هناك 3900 وحدة سكنية سنبدأ تسليمها على التوالي للسكان اعتبارا من نهاية شهر نوفمبر من العام الجاري حيث تضع »نخيل« اللمسات الأخيرة على نحو 1400 فيلا و2500 شقة سكنية على الشاطئ الشرقي للنخلة موزعة على 20 مبنى في المشروع«. وأضافت أن »نخيـل« ستحتفل بأول مجموعة من سكان أعجوبة الدنيا الثامنة (النخلة جميرا) عبر نقلهم بمنطاد »سكاي شيب« من لندن إلى دبي. وتتكون جزيرة النخلة جميرا من 17 سعفة وتحيط بها جزيرة هلالية يشكل الجانب الخلفي منها كاسرا للأمواج، وتمتد بطول 5 كم في المياه، ويبلغ قطرها أيضاً 5 كيلومترات، وستضم 10 آلاف وحدة سكنية و2000 فيلا و30 فندقا من الخمس نجوم بضمنهم اتلانتس والميل الذهبي ومتروبوليتان والفيرمونت، وستحتوي الفنادق على 9000 آلاف شقة، ويوجد في قلب النخلة جميرا منطقة تسمى المارينا وستحتوي على 6 بنايات تضم 700 شقة إضافة إلى ناديين بحريين ومتنزهات ترفيه مائية ومجمعات تسوق ومنشآت رياضية ونواد صحية ودور للسينما. دبي ــ مشرق على حيدر Nakheel will handover the Palm Jumeirah hotels in 2008. It denies being late in handing over villas and apartments. 3900 units will be handed over starting from the end of November of this year. They include 1400 villas and 2500 apartments. 75% of units on the Palm Jumeirah have been sold so far. The remaining 25% will be put up for sale before the end of this year in a 'unique' marketing campaign. It is expected that they will be sold out within "a blink of an eye". The rest of the article talks about features of the Palm (names of hotels, number of fronds...etc). dubaiflo October 29th, 2006, 12:18 PM 25% .. still for sale. i knew they kept some, but that much?? :eek: well it might be reasonable to buy a shoreline now, since Nakheel will launch those as completed properties at prices touching the sky.. jash October 29th, 2006, 01:01 PM Shoreline confirmed notice dates... Al Hamri # Jan 10 # Dune Al Khushkar # Jan 20 # Maltster Al Anbara # Feb 10 # Dubayyy Al Tamr # Mar 1 # Richard Head / Salty Al Hallawi # Apr 1 # AltTab Al Habool #Feb 10 # LumiUkko Al Msali # Feb 1 # Hady g And now..... Jash Falqa # Nov 10 # Jash508 :pepper: :carrot: :pepper: :carrot: :pepper: Richard Head October 29th, 2006, 01:50 PM Jash, November 10th!!!! That's awesome news, less than 2 weeks away. Looks like you'll be first one having the apartment-warming party for the rest of us. :scouserd: :scouserd: :scouserd: :cheers1: :cucumber: :cheers1: :cucumber: :cheers1: :banana2: :banana2: :righton: :righton: :drunk: :drunk: Was there this morning, sorry no pics it was an impromptu visit. Lots of activity going on, they have even planted a few trees and bushes around one of the blocks (can't remember which one, 3rd or 4th canal facing block from the shore). Things are really starting to take shape now. Which building is Jash Falga? Also just noticed the new website is back up, still a triumph of style over content though. Happy happy days, hope it doesn't all end in..........................:wallbash: :wallbash: :badnews: Richard Head October 29th, 2006, 01:53 PM One other thing, anyone heard anything about Tiara residence, still for sale off plan and was thinking about taking a punt, they are advertising 10% guaranteed rental return first 3 years and very high % LTV mortgages, so seems like a no-lose situation, prices not so high as Fairmont and other more recent ones. I's sure there was a seperate thread about thie development, but can't find it now Cheers Dick. Salty October 29th, 2006, 02:45 PM Shoreline confirmed notice dates... Al Hamri # Jan 10 # Dune Al Khushkar # Jan 20 # Maltster Al Anbara # Feb 10 # Dubayyy Al Tamr # Mar 1 # Richard Head / Salty Al Hallawi # Apr 1 # AltTab Al Habool #Feb 10 # LumiUkko Al Msali # Feb 1 # Hady g And now..... Jash Falqa # Nov 10 # Jash508 :pepper: :carrot: :pepper: :carrot: :pepper: Great news for you Jash. Worth the wait I'd say! Be interesting to see what all the charges are when you move in. One year up front for the maintenance charge. There's also a municipal charge isn't there? Then water and electricity connection. Then put utilities on a direct debit. Beach club joining fee (when they are in operation). Looks like a bit of a drain on the old wallet for us even before we think about furnishing. Anyone feel up to totting it all up (excluding furniture)? jash October 29th, 2006, 03:11 PM Thanks Salty and Richard, Yes there will be alot of initial costs and I will post them all as soon as the bills start rolling in.(Oh and they will). But to be honest I dont care, we have been waiting a long time to start a new life over there. All good things etc. I must admit it will all be a bit of a scrabble as it is only six weeks away until we have the keys and we have to arrange the shipment of our furniture.(which also takes approx 6 wks) Christmas on The Palm What a thought!! Thanks all :cheers2: :cheers2: :cheers2: :cheers2: Salty October 29th, 2006, 04:12 PM Six weeks! Amazing. Perhaps you should start a blog Jash? jash October 29th, 2006, 04:19 PM Six weeks! Amazing. Perhaps you should start a blog Jash? Now there is a thought! Talkie Toaster October 30th, 2006, 12:07 AM Hi, I'm new to this forum, came across it a few weeks ago and have found it very interesting. Allot better for news than the palm's website. Got my notice to complete for AL Dabas, 1st December. So with any luck I could be spending new years on the palm. Dr Dubai October 30th, 2006, 12:21 AM Congrats Jash508! bet you can't wait!.... see I told you guys way back on post #135 that some of you will be in your apartments before the end of the year! :baeh3: :righton: ..always listen to the Doc! :cool: didn't predict such a long wait for others though:cry: ...don't worry Salty I'm sure your apartment will be worth the wait! :yes: I did the drive down the palm trunk lost tourist trick the other day then played stupid when they asked me for a pass and drove on to do a u-turn back! got an amazing view of the shorelines and water etc...have to say it looks awesome and The Palm's not even close to completion yet!...I've managed to blag :blahblah: a private visit in the coming days through a secret source :gossip: so I'll update you on what I see. I've been assured my sea view won't be blocked by the clubhouse and will be going to view it with my own eyes. Jash keep us posted!! Got to say this forum totally rocks! Neighbours be patient paradise is on the horizon! :angel: Salty October 30th, 2006, 12:24 AM Welcome aboard Talkie. Going to be a happy new year for you! Doc - great news on your sea view. Let us know how your visit goes. Dr Dubai October 30th, 2006, 12:32 AM Updated... Al Hamri # Jan 10 # Dune Al Khushkar # Jan 20 # Maltster Al Anbara # Feb 10 # Dubayyy Al Tamr # Mar 1 # Richard Head / Salty Al Hallawi # Apr 1 # AltTab Al Habool #Feb 10 # LumiUkko Al Msali # Feb 1 # Hady g Jash Falqa # Nov 10 # Jash508 Al Dabas # Dec 1 # Talkie Toaster Dr Dubai October 30th, 2006, 12:33 AM Cheers Salty will do! Lazyd October 30th, 2006, 01:42 AM Doc If you get into your place in Al Nabat any pics of / From the D type next door will be appreciated (from what I can make out I'm sure we are going to be neighbours) Thanks jash October 30th, 2006, 09:38 AM Cheers Doc Im hoping to be taking pictures on my two scheduled visits (yet to be arranged) which I will obviously post here as soon as possible. I do feel for all you who have to wait until the New Year as it has been a long wait for us all but as Salty say.."its well worth it in the end". Chin up all :nuts: Dr Dubai October 31st, 2006, 12:40 AM No worries Lazy..If I don't get pics I will certainly have a good look for you to see what the view is like!.. ps I think Al Nabat won't be ready til Feb at least..maybe later!!!It's the one before Al Msali which is Feb 1st handover notice..IFA are still saying 1st quarter of next year in their letters...haven't tried calling Nakheel directly! anyone else know?? ps Lazy I have sent a private message to you also! maltster October 31st, 2006, 12:21 PM Whilst I was just out of the office, a colleague took a phone-call from somebody at Nakheel/Palm saying that Completion Notices are to be sent out by courier this week!!! Can anybody shed any light on this ? I wonder if this is just a hard-copy of the emails that everybody has been receiving advising of anticipated completion notices? I'm not expecting anything until Jan 20th or thereabouts. Salty October 31st, 2006, 02:25 PM Hiya Maltster. I can see you are on line at the moment. I think you are absolutely right. These will be be hard-copies of the emails. Legally significant material is always sent as a letter and not simply confined to emails. Hope all goes well in January. When are you going to start advertising the place as available for rent? maltster October 31st, 2006, 02:44 PM Hiya Maltster. I can see you are on line at the moment. I think you are absolutely right. These will be be hard-copies of the emails. Legally significant material is always sent as a letter and not simply confined to emails. Hope all goes well in January. When are you going to start advertising the place as available for rent? I havent quite decided between short/long term lettings or whether to stick with BH or shop around. A few people will have access to thier apartments before Christmas and I will be very interested to see photos and read their opinions on this forum. Also there should be a reaction from the real estate industry and media shortly after the first releases as I'm sure there will be huge interest from everybody in the quality etc of this development, above all others. Then I might be able to decide or else leave it until I am able to view the property myself- hopefully late January. Salty October 31st, 2006, 02:50 PM I havent quite decided between short/long term lettings or whether to stick with BH or shop around. A few people will have access to thier apartments before Christmas and I will be very interested to see photos and read their opinions on this forum. Also there should be a reaction from the real estate industry and media shortly after the first releases as I'm sure there will be huge interest from everybody in the quality etc of this development, above all others. Then I might be able to decide or else leave it until I am able to view the property myself- hopefully late January. Maltster - you've exactly summarised my views there. One good thing about not being in the first tranch is we will be able to see how the others get on before making our big decisions! End of lunchtime for me. Back to work and back to earth. maltster October 31st, 2006, 02:54 PM "I think you are absolutely right. These will be be hard-copies of the emails. Legally significant material is always sent as a letter and not simply confined to emails." Just seemed odd that they would phone up the UK just to tell me that a Palm 'update' is on the way. guy_in_dubai October 31st, 2006, 04:19 PM there seems to be an update on the palm website that i havent seen. its an interview with the ceo. pretty interesting. and that whole 25% of homes are still available really interests me MilliZay October 31st, 2006, 07:57 PM I am new to the forum, but have been viewing the dialogue closely as we have an apartment in the Abu Keibal building. For information: We have had an e.mail from Nakheel to say that our notice to complete will be issued by 20th November 2006 - So a Christmas handover! I am going to Dubai at the end of November/beginning of December and will post any photos that I take (inside the apartment and out, on this site). We are looking to let the property, so any information on this would be greatly appreciated. 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