And by suburban housing, I don't mean commieblocks on the outskirts of our numerous cities :)

Let's see your sprawling, which I believe has become popular since late 90's in eastern part of Europe.

This is a town in Ivano-Frankivsk region, in the western part of Ukraine. Finishing construction. It has 6 different standard types of houses.
http://www.noveksdim.com.ua/filez/progres_new/260.jpg

http://noveksdim.com.ua/ukr/html/images/buildings.jpg

Don't know if they're selling them with Christmas trees, but this is one of the pics on the site selling houses there
http://www.noveksdim.com.ua/filez/progres_new/278.jpg

http://www.noveksdim.com.ua/filez/progres_new/166.jpg

http://www.noveksdim.com.ua/filez/progres_new/282.jpg

Let's see your sprawling, which I believe has become popular since late 90's in eastern part of Europe.



Hey we have it Skopje since the mid 60's, right after the earthquake :D

http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/4716/skopjenew3wjzj7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


Unfortunately I dont have any pics of more recent sprawl, but I'll try to acquire some.

Oh boy.... Bucharest has too many housing projects like this. Im sure it will be posted soon.

And I prefer we post sprawls from provincial places, not capitals, it'll be more interesting.

Hey we have it Skopje since the mid 60's, right after the earthquake :D

http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/4716/skopjenew3wjzj7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


Unfortunately I dont have any pics of more recent sprawl, but I'll try to acquire some.

Wow, I didn't know these existed in the socialist world!

Kac, Serbia (near Novi Sad):

http://www.goldenhat.co.yu/suncani/images/2.jpg

Renderings (Don't know whether this project is finished or not):

http://www.goldenhat.co.yu/suncani/images/1.jpg

http://www.goldenhat.co.yu/suncani/images/3d6.jpg

Wow, I didn't know these existed in the socialist world!

Hey why not? The sprawl is pretty similar in philosophy to commie blocks :D

only the sprawl is much more wasteful...

Hey why not? The sprawl is pretty similar in philosophy to commie blocks :D

only the sprawl is much more wasteful...

I don't know, I just can't imagine a sprawl in 1960's soviet union :D

I don't know, I just can't imagine a sprawl in 1960's soviet union :D

If it helps, Yugoslavia happened to be on the other side of the iron curtain ;)

A sprawl town, under construction, in the south of Ukraine, near the city of Yevpatoria

http://www.domik.net/mod/get/getimg/?t=crimg&sz=full&id=10852

http://www.domik.net/mod/get/getimg/?t=crimg&sz=full&id=10855

http://www.domik.net/mod/get/getimg/?t=crimg&sz=full&id=111121

http://www.domik.net/mod/get/getimg/?t=crimg&sz=full&id=111122

Here's a sprawl neighbourhood near Stara Zagora,Bulgaria-350 houses+trade and sports centers.It's U/C.

http://www.aturen.com/images/g_plan.jpg
http://www.aturen.com/images/p_01.jpg
http://www.aturen.com/images/rk_23.jpg
http://www.aturen.com/images/ek_32.jpg
http://www.aturen.com/images/dk_42.jpg

http://www.aturen.com/index.shtml

Those Ukrainian sprawls are very impressive.

I don't know, I just can't imagine a sprawl in 1960's soviet union :D
Seems we set the trend:p

Since you said provincial/non capital regions...
I can't find any pictures from Macedonian places so GE satellite will have to do for now.

This is Ohrid...i guess it looks suburban sprawled enough?
http://i18.tinypic.com/2vwsnqw.jpg

And Bitola
http://i9.tinypic.com/35ldnwp.jpg

oh no...just what i feared! sprawls in eastern europe:ohno: here in the u.s.a. we have those everywhere we call them subdivisions. i myself live in one. they are the worst way to live i think. like somone said earlier in the thread....sprawls are JUST like commie blocks, except wasteful because they cover so much more land. i hate subdivisions...no land...houses are 10 meters apart from each other...you might as well live in a commie apartment-i think they're better than sprawls.

^^Yeah i hear you MKballer.
They do cover a lot of land and make the city a lot large too, and eventually make it harder/very long to travel in around the city.
But 10 metres apart? Most here are within the range of 2-4 metres apart, and all have the same appearance, design, everything, except for some different colours,that's all. My city has gone crazy with these types of sprawls within the past few years, and the downside is that most seem to be built in lower level areas where if you get to a high position, it looks like it's basically in a hole.

I myself like the sprawls... maybe not to the extreme that you can find for example in the midwest of the USA where the big cities are basically just a couple of towers and a spawl.... but still I like satelite urban sprawls.... one big one is currently pending and the southeast of Skopje, near Sopiste. They are about to adopt the DUP for the areaa any day now.

Urban sprawl is among the worst things that can happen to cities.

-Ataman

I agree with you all that sprawl is the worst thing!!!! Until you see it and live in it yourself you will not know how bad it is.

When uncontrolled, builders build to maximize their profits. And in areas where people want to live, they will build small, unactractive houses far away from any services. I think USA has some great examples of bad urban planning, and it is sad to know that cities as we know them have ceased to grow and only housing is being built to extremes around them, which will eleviate congestion, waste people's lives as they are stuck in trafic and to a restaurant or shopping they can only drive for half an hour or more, and to their job for hours.

The key is for a city and region to plan it correctly. I think housing is fine, if you have near by a town center (prefferably with a square) with shops and services, a park, public transportation and working options for the rezidence are not too far away. It takes a lot of effort to plan it right. People need to live, but it must be done right.

they look nice i think but i wouldn't wanna live in these sprawls, aka in america suburbia...We don't have any of those in Tirana as far as i'm concerned or for that matter, i haven't really seen them throughout Albania at all.

Since you said provincial/non capital regions...

I meant that I don't want it to concentrate on those expensive sprawls around the capitals that are for millionaires :)

they look nice...

Monotomy looks far from nice, even if the houses themselves look nice.

These look much nicer:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_urbanism
http://www.newurbanism.org/
http://www.newurbannews.com/

-Ataman

it's an opinion, not a fact.
I would get bored of living there too because yea, they're all the same, and the one u posted first in florida is really nice

they are ugly and very "inefficient" if you will, but guess what...they are a must. america is MADE on sprawls/subdivisions and without them in america it would be a disaster. it's exactly the same anywhere u go in america...the cities have skyscrapers and apartment buildings...while the suburbs consist completely of sprawls.

Alright, not really interested in American sprawls here, so... :) thanks.

I myself like the sprawls... maybe not to the extreme that you can find for example in the midwest of the USA where the big cities are basically just a couple of towers and a spawl.... but still I like satelite urban sprawls.... one big one is currently pending and the southeast of Skopje, near Sopiste. They are about to adopt the DUP for the areaa any day now.
Is that the Sonchev Grad one by some German investor?
A relative of mine took me up to the location, not too far from his house...and i must say it's very very ideal for such a sprawl. Such a beautiful view down towards the city and the mountains around...

I meant that I don't want it to concentrate on those expensive sprawls around the capitals that are for millionaires :)
Ohh i see, cool then!

Is that the Sonchev Grad one by some German investor?
A relative of mine took me up to the location, not too far from his house...and i must say it's very very ideal for such a sprawl. Such a beautiful view down towards the city and the mountains around...


yeap that's the one

From a personal perspective, sprawl & suburbs are nothing to be pround of, especially for EE. Besides, I've never even once found it the least bit attrcative.

Anyways, here is fairly massive level of sprawl north of Krasnodar, Russia

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/5772/krassprawl3go4.jpg
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/9299/krassprawel4xs3.jpg
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/4351/krassprawl6bw6.jpg
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/664/krassprawl1sn0.jpg
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/2811/krassprawl5xw5.jpg

When I started the thread, I didn't mean that this is some kind of magnificent achievement. I'm not a big fan of sprawls either, I'm more neutral towards them. I'm just curious as to how popular are they now in different EE countries and what they look like.

Personally, I think one should ideally have an apartment in the city and a house in the sprawls, where you or your children can spend the summer, or something like that.

When I started the thread, I didn't mean that this is some kind of magnificent achievement. I'm not a big fan of sprawls either, I'm more neutral towards them. I'm just curious as to how popular are they now in different EE countries and what they look like.

Personally, I think one should ideally have an apartment in the city and a house in the sprawls, where you or your children can spend the summer, or something like that.

You have too much land to spare in Ukraine, thats why you think everybody should have both. If It was up to me Id make 3-4 families share one apartment. Good for socializing and very enviromentaly friendly :rofl:

^^:laugh:

You have too much land to spare in Ukraine, thats why you think everybody should have both. If It was up to me Id make 3-4 families share one apartment. Good for socializing and very enviromentaly friendly :rofl:

Our population density is almost the same :)

Ukraine
77 (per square kilometer)

Macedonia
79

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_population_density

Oh wow, so it is.

I've always taken a personal liking to Ukraine!

Our population density is almost the same :)

Ukraine
77 (per square kilometer)

Macedonia
79

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_population_density

Wow! I'm really surprised. I guess the size of Ukraine's land area mislead me.

Well at least I made my views clear (about how people should live) :lol:

As to how people should live, I prefer 4-5 story high, late 19th century buildings, located next to each other, with enormous squares everywhere :)

^^ That's exactly what I'm looking to get into. Dutch Row houses were sort of my inspiration and the reason for becoming an architect. Except I have in mind more of a modern look, but still using the same traditional principles.

That's kind of the neighborhood where i live here in ny, it's pretty cool i don't really like these sprawls cause there's not much transportation nearby, no places really just a lotta houses, and so on.
But diversity is important, you can't have a neighborhood only with 5 story apartment buildings, i think many American cities are planned out really well.

I hate suburbia too. :( I would rather take a bus and go to work than drive for an hour.

boy this thread died......

http://www.arcoreal.bg/dump.php?id=1703
^^
Sofia Ski Resort (http://www.arcoreal.bg/?id=834) (”СОФИЯ СКИ РЕЗОРТ”), developer: Arco Vara.

http://www.arcoreal.bg/project_sofia8/header.jpg
^^
...and nighttime.

^^ Not what we're looking for.

Bucharest - Baneasa http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=13252510&postcount=105

Just to give you the feel of Baneasa area (outside of Baneasa main development) ...

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/9403/93145871ot2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/9448/83273318ri5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/4585/73642645vj1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

^^ Not what we're looking for.
What do you mean?
This is suburban housing development in Sofia, not an actual ski resort! Don't be fooled by the name "Sofia Ski Resort".
Actually, on the first picture you can see the existing lift station in the background that can take you to the top of the mountain where the ski slopes are. In Sofia we ski in our backyards! :wink2:

Another development also in Ivano-Frankivsk (small city in western Ukraine)

http://www.uitb.com.ua/local/photo/masyv2.jpg

Individual house in the local suburbs
http://alc-ua.com/images/portfolio/design/project1/4/big/kompakt__front.JPG

Urban sprawl is among the worst things that can happen to cities.

-Ataman

So, what do you suggest? How do you accommodate the expanding cities' population? Commie blocks?

Population usually shrinks these days.

^^
you are so unrealistic!
It is simple! The communism falls down and people want to buy more individual houses! No more ugly commie blocks! So, what is the solution? Count on shrinking population? Come on! Times change, but some of us still live in the old times.....

I don't understand what you're argument, because I don't have an argument, I just stated that population is not rising, it's falling everywhere.

:)

The reason I am posting these developments is because I found a nicely maintained web site by Arco Real Estate (http://www.arcoreal.bg), a parent company of the Estonian Arco Vara (http://www.arcovara.ee/). So, here's another nice urban housing development around Sofia Mr. Czas na Żywiec who thinks that this is "Not what we're looking for".

Embassy Suits (http://www.arcoreal.bg/project_sofia10/) (not to be confused with the US hotel chain).

http://www.arcoreal.bg/project_sofia10/header.jpg

http://www.arcoreal.bg/dump.php?id=1686

But these aren't really sprawls. They're just apartment buildings outside the cities.

I like these planned settlements on the suburbs built by one investor pasted above. The houses look the same? Thats the virtue for me.
In Warsaw we have a problem that on the suburbs small plots are owned by a various people, so every house and fence looks different. The big problem are also the streets - usually they have different width, often with even no room for a sidewalk.. Broadly speaking areal planning is completely unefficient here.

Huge suburban sprawl under construction near Kyiv, biggest in Europe so far. The area is 290 hectares, 1090 homes, 19 km from Kyiv.

http://i16.tinypic.com/66jy0jq.jpg

http://www.olympic-park.com.ua/about/

But these aren't really sprawls. They're just apartment buildings outside the cities.
How about http://www.luximoti.bg/files/velikotarnovo32453.gif (http://www.velikoturnovohills.com/) next to Veliko Tarnovo in Bulgaria?

http://www.luximoti.bg/property-images/big/6_1.jpg

http://www.luximoti.bg/property-images/big/6_8.jpg

http://www.luximoti.bg/property-images/big/6_5.jpg

http://www.luximoti.bg/property-images/big/6_4.jpg

http://www.luximoti.bg/property-images/big/6_16.jpg

Is this a spra-a-a-awl?

Delyan, you should definitely do some research on sprawl. What you're posting is not sprawl but apartment complexes.

I feel some discrimination against the little urban spra-a-a-awls here. After all, the size of the urban spra-a-a-awl depends on the size of local population. You are not going to see big spra-a-a-awls in smaller EE countries.

http://www.theport.sk/pic1.jpg
http://www.theport.sk/
what is this? looks like suburb plus mall.

Population is shrinking only in Europe...In Asia and Africa its rising, just wait 'till the chinese hit 2mlrd and start emigrating to Europe ;)

Dunno, Elite sprawls are more interesting, post more of them

Huge suburban sprawl under construction near Kyiv, biggest in Europe so far. The area is 290 hectares, 1090 homes, 19 km from Kyiv.


Not really the biggest i think. They are building a new neighborhood in Utrecht, the Netherlands with over 80.000 inhabitants. In my city, some 16.000 new houses are constructed in a new sprawl, containing over 40.000 inhabitants.

Yeah I didnt think it was the biggest either, by what metric Pavlo?

I think he meant that it's the largest organized-complex-suburb, perhaps the ones in the Netherlands are not organized/built as a single complex

^^ Its not, near Moscow there are a few which are bigger

Koncha-Zaspa, central/northern Ukraine. But this is for a bit richer residents

http://www.panoramio.com/photos/original/121332.jpg

http://ivonna.com.ua/photos/house_88/88_big_495.jpg

with these type of houses
http://www.redence.com/images/users/1180432568_offers_0000006287_1.jpg

But I hate them, because they're for really rich people, I prefer suburbs for regular, lower-middle class families.

Its interesting to check these elite places out, but living there would be a nightmare.

p.s. Why dont those rich people have boats? It would be the perfect place to have a boat

I can imagine a lot of evil and malicious people living there.

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How about http://www.luximoti.bg/files/velikotarnovo32453.gif (http://www.velikoturnovohills.com/) next to Veliko Tarnovo in Bulgaria?

http://www.luximoti.bg/property-images/big/6_1.jpg

http://www.luximoti.bg/property-images/big/6_8.jpg

http://www.luximoti.bg/property-images/big/6_5.jpg

http://www.luximoti.bg/property-images/big/6_4.jpg

http://www.luximoti.bg/property-images/big/6_16.jpg

Is this a spra-a-a-awl?

No that's not :)

Actually, I think Bulgarians are sooo much used to living in appartment blocks, there are not many sprawls in Bulgaria. There are some near Sofia, Varna, now new ones near Stara Zagora and Plovdiv are U/C I think...there are quite a lot of closed residential complexes in the suburbs, but not houses and not exactly sprawls, they are comprised of 2-3 floor residential blocks, sometimes a mall and such kind of servicing buildings.

There are "sprawls" which are actually located in seacoast and mountain ski resorts areas. But noone lives there 24/7, only during the season :)

I myself prefer a small urban house in a middle-sized town, let's say Ruse (my hometown, hehe, 170k inhabitants)...or Burgas (on the sea, 200k - there aren't many good old houses there though :( )

I don't like big cities and suburbs. I prefer towns and some urban living space there :)

170k isn't really middle-sized :D more like tiny

P.S. please don't quote all the pictures, quoting the text is enough.

OK, sorre :)

For Bulgaria, 170k is quite a large town. It's the fifth largest here actually :)

Kutina
Brunkovac- built middle/end of 70`
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/3947/dsc00997gy7.jpg
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/8913/dsc00998sd0.jpg
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/3518/dsc01002is9.jpg
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/2167/dsc01001bm0.jpg
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/3199/dsc01012hu8.jpg
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4265/dsc01013fl5.jpg
http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/84/dsc01014ll1.jpg
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/9738/dsc01015dk9.jpg
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/4438/kutinaodozgor200502bg4.jpg

:)

All of this was built in the 70's??

yup,why? :)

It looks very capitalistic.

Unorganized sprawl in southern Russia (Stavropol Region) which looks somewhat similar to balkan-style suburbs. This community was build in late 90s, early 00s.

http://i14.tinypic.com/4kyf4ug.jpg
http://i15.tinypic.com/4vcywas.jpg
http://i12.tinypic.com/4cud6yd.jpg
http://i19.tinypic.com/4kvdzk6.jpg

Another small suburb in Ivano-Frankivsk, in Ukraine.
http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s16/MaksKhomenko/files-1.jpg

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s16/MaksKhomenko/ml.jpg

It looks very capitalistic.

and why wouldn t look capitalistic? :)

All of this was built in the 70's??

this is photo from that time ;) when they are built Brunkovac
http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/5913/brunkovacsegradiat1.jpg

outkirts of Kostroma. Small Russian city... Pop. is about 300 000
http://i20.tinypic.com/sfi7av.jpg

Small Russian city... Pop. is about 300 000

This is usually called a "big city" here :)

For Russia it's something between small and midlle sized :)

Here's a whole bunch of other developments near Kyiv:

1.) 139 cottages

variant 1

http://svdevelopment.com/content/catalog/img/1189684351_big.jpg

variant 2

http://svdevelopment.com/content/catalog/img/1189684427_big.jpg

2.) 26 cottages

variant 1

http://svdevelopment.com/content/catalog/img/1188577985_.jpg

variant 2

http://svdevelopment.com/content/catalog/img/1188578047_big.jpg

variant 3

http://svdevelopment.com/content/catalog/img/1188578088_big.jpg

3.) 288 cottages and 67 townhouses

http://svdevelopment.com/content/catalog/img/1185547609_.jpg

4.) 67 cottages and 30 townhouses

http://svdevelopment.com/content/catalog/img/1183974944_.jpg

5.) 107 cottages and 60 townhouses

http://svdevelopment.com/content/catalog/img/1178520928_big.jpg

6.) 116 cottages and 22 townhouses

http://svdevelopment.com/content/catalog/img/1175010337_big.jpg

7.) 73 cottages and 17 townhouses

http://svdevelopment.com/content/catalog/img/1171975320_big.jpg

8.) 122 cottages

http://svdevelopment.com/content/catalog/img/1166818901_.jpg

9.) 54 cottages

http://svdevelopment.com/content/catalog/img/1166815052_.jpg

10.) 107 cottages and 24 townhouses

http://svdevelopment.com/content/catalog/img/1166816232_.jpg

11.) 50 cottages and 145 townhouses

http://svdevelopment.com/content/catalog/img/1166819946_.jpg

Some statistics:

1.) http://expertra.com/img/133/stroyash.gif

First column: Amount already built in x cottage towns.

Second column: Under construction in x cottage towns.

Third coumn: Under development in x cottage towns.

2.) http://expertra.com/img/133/gotomir.gif

Amount of cottage towns by highway direction and amount of cottage homes by highway direction.

Thanks to svdevelopment (http://www.svdevelopment.com) and expert.ua (http://expert.ua/articles/16/0/4440/) :cheers:

Soon entire Kyiv oblast will be covered by suburbs

suburban town in northern Ukraine called Vyshneve Mistechko

http://mistechko.com.ua/galleries/panorama-12.jpg

http://mistechko.com.ua/galleries/panorama-09.jpg

http://mistechko.com.ua/galleries/panorama-07.jpg

http://mistechko.com.ua/galleries/business-08.jpg

http://mistechko.com.ua/galleries/business-04.jpg

http://mistechko.com.ua/galleries/comfort-01.jpg

How come people in Ukraine can afford such houses? It has to be those 2% of the population.

How come people in Ukraine can afford such houses? It has to be those 2% of the population.
weeeel if they can in bulgaria,they can in Ukraine ;)

Like I already said, Bulgarians are not quite keen on sprawls and small family houses :) We're social people, we like living together with others :) We have sprawls and closed residential complexes, but they are mostly low-rise appartment blocks, not houses..

BTW, living in a small isolated family house in the suburbs is really an expensive thing here..considering the oil and real estates prices nowadays..:(

Suburb on the outskirts of Kaliningrad, probably where local mobsters and oligarchs live.

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/5449/4933762kw0.jpg

more like apartments for middle class...

The upper middle class in Kyiv is quite numerous. But these are not houses for billionaires, those have enormous mansions.

There are about 90 of these private cottage towns in the Kyiv oblast (region).

I remember this from so long ago when there used to be Ukrainians in this place
There was some place called Horse something, built with scandinavian looking houses. Or were they normand houses, either way, something "exotic" to us Eastern Europeans

Well, all suburbs are exotic for Ukraine, they began appearing in mid 90's unlike the Balkans where you had them from commie times. But since late 90's and the last 7 years especially, they have grown like mushrooms all over the country. In 20 years Ukraine will be covered with suburbia, with more ukrainians leaving for suburbs, while more immigrants and villager-migrnats in the cities... which isn't that great, imho.

Suburb "zolotie kluchi" near Dnipropetrovsk, central Ukraine.
http://gorod.dp.ua/pic/images/archi/pic/zoloty_klyuchi/02.png

http://gorod.dp.ua/pic/images/archi/pic/zoloty_klyuchi/05.jpg

http://www.novostroyka.dp.ua/mck/images/gk_04.jpg

Some pics of Tallinn suburbia.
http://www.taevapiltnik.ee/static/body/pildid/pilt_1589.jpg
http://www.taevapiltnik.ee/static/body/pildid/pilt_1592.jpg
http://www.taevapiltnik.ee/static/body/pildid/pilt_1501.jpg
http://www.taevapiltnik.ee/static/body/pildid/pilt_1502.jpg
http://www.taevapiltnik.ee/static/body/pildid/pilt_1603.jpg
http://www.taevapiltnik.ee/static/body/pildid/pilt_1551.jpg

Warsaw's Suburbs (most of sprawls are ruther in the northern part of a city) :

Ventana
http://www.ventana.pl/pl/duzeobrazki/mapka_bez_jeziorek_d3.jpg
http://www.ventana.pl/pl/images/typ_f_2a.jpg
http://www.ventana.pl/pl/images/typ_e_2a2.jpg
http://www.ventana.pl/pl/images/plac_11.jpg
http://www.ventana.pl/pl/images/plac_04.jpg

Konstancja
http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/7886/beztytuune8.png

Oakland Park
http://oaklandpark.pl/images/bg_location1024.jpg
http://oaklandpark.pl/images/houses/magnolia_rear.jpg

Le Village :)
http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/9436/beztytuuqm2.png


And lotz of others.

tnx God suburbs r not that developed in Russia... we perfer city life :)

^^ Mate, in Russia the suburbs are developing like mad! You have a choice where you want to live, so dont speak for everybody!

I like those Estonian ones.

An amazingly huge development project near Moscow:

http://www.expert.ru/images/thing/2007/01/vesch_01_038_2.jpg

A whole city of 450 thousand will be built on 3 thousand hectares from scratch!!! Over $11 billion will be invested into the project!

http://www.ventana.pl/pl/images/plac_11.jpg :puke:
:puke:
:puke:

:puke:
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:puke:

Ur overreacting :ohno: Only the terrace and the columns looks artifficial and odd, but the whole rest is fine. Kinda cute actually.

An amazingly huge development project near Moscow:

http://www.expert.ru/images/thing/2007/01/vesch_01_038_2.jpg

A whole city of 450 thousand will be built on 3 thousand hectares from scratch!!! Over $11 billion will be invested into the project!

well... it's not much of suburbs in typical understanding... more like a new city... do u have some more info and pics?

:puke:
:puke:
:puke:

You'd rather live in the building in your avatar instead of this cute house?

So Blok what do you think about this kind of suburb housing?
http://www.budizol.com.pl/aktualizacja/data/galerie/2242_big.jpg
http://www.budizol.com.pl/aktualizacja/data/galerie/2243_big.jpg
http://www.budizol.com.pl/aktualizacja/data/galerie/2244_big.jpg

well... that's interesting...

You'd rather live in the building in your avatar instead of this cute house?

Witch one ?Theres 3 of them.

So <b>Blok</b> what do you think about this kind of suburb housing?
Design is much better but whole concept is still bad :ohno:

i'm not sure is that agree with your definition of sprawl but these are few examples of low rise architecture in suburbs of opole (city in south-west of poland)
http://images27.fotosik.pl/110/ccbe176f0182855a.jpg (www.fotosik.pl)
http://images32.fotosik.pl/39/c4472f26261e771a.jpg (www.fotosik.pl)
http://images31.fotosik.pl/39/97b576842c851c28.jpg (www.fotosik.pl)
http://images32.fotosik.pl/39/1740d2f195e094a4.jpg (www.fotosik.pl)
http://images29.fotosik.pl/110/701379fc11450ebd.jpg (www.fotosik.pl)
http://images24.fotosik.pl/110/4d48ecc18c5aca89.jpg (www.fotosik.pl)
http://images33.fotosik.pl/39/d3a813509b4d9d8b.jpg (www.fotosik.pl)

New suburbs in the Ivano-Frankivsk (city in the west of Ukraine) region.

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s16/MaksKhomenko/chukalivka2.jpg

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s16/MaksKhomenko/chukalivka4.jpg

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s16/MaksKhomenko/chukalivka7.jpg

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s16/MaksKhomenko/zagal_vud.jpg

Mahachkala. Dagestan. Russia.
http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/5039/nemderiy6.jpg

^^
a completely new town?

more of a neighborhood i think :)

impressive

Kazan'. Tatarstan. Russia.
http://rv.foto.radikal.ru/0710/f2/8ebcbbd9cda5.jpg
http://rn.foto.radikal.ru/0710/a6/bebbe4011ee9.jpg
by Ruso Malo.
from here
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=527719

fugly...

Wroclaw, Poland - Osada Gencz , still U/C - 56 hectares and over 1000 homes

http://images12.fotosik.pl/108/42ad80d481885149.jpg

like minicommieblocks

^^thats what makes them nice

U.S. Office Hails Approval of "International Village" (July 21, 2003)

Mr. Alec Mally, Acting Chief of Mission of the U.S. Office Pristina, hailed Friday's decision by the Pristina Municipal Assembly approving construction of an "International Village" as a significant step forward in attracting investment to Kosovo.

"By this action," said Mr. Mally, "the Municipal Assembly is demonstrating its willingness to work with international investors to bring projects to Pristina that will create jobs and better living conditions for people. We applaud the municipal authorities for their decision and look forward to working with them to bring this project to conclusion and to attract more investment to Kosovo. Streamlining regulatory procedures to assist potential investors is a key component of fulfilling the International Community's standard on economy, and this action by the Municipal Assembly is a good step in that direction," concluded Mr. Mally.

Mr. Mally further noted that the "International Village" is a private investment effort that does not involve any funding from the United States Government. However, he said, "the U.S. Office supports efforts to bring American investments to Kosovo as part of its mission in Kosovo, so it has actively followed this effort. Former Chief of Mission Reno Harnish worked on this issue until his last day in Kosovo, emphasizing how critical it remains to attract private U.S. investors. This decision is very important as a precedent for future investors from the United States and elsewhere."


The village is under construction, the project for village is done by same Architect Studio that disigned New World Trade Center in New York.
here is the link to village:

www.international-village.net

^^thats what makes them nice

Commieblocks are effective (good) and ugly (bad). This is uneffective and ugly.

Commieblocks are effective (good) and ugly (bad).
I disagree at least about the old ones pre '89
This is uneffective and ugly.
I agree it's uneffective...

like minicommieblocks

I wouldn't have called that commieblocks...

in my opinion it represents a good quality suburban architecture ;)

http://209.11.106.150/Gazeta_UpImages/Osada-Original~1.jpg

http://www.osadagencz.budmax.info.dev.3c.pl/fotogaleria/Aktualne/zdjecia_zoptymalizowane/aaaGencz014.JPG

http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/3/4253/m4253273.jpg

http://www.osadagencz.budmax.info/fotogaleria/D1/zdjecia_zoptymalizowane/U1.jpg

http://www.osadagencz.budmax.info/fotogaleria/D2/zdjecia_zoptymalizowane/D2_02.jpg

http://www.osadagencz.budmax.info/fotogaleria/D2/zdjecia_zoptymalizowane/D2_05.JPG

http://www.osadagencz.budmax.info/fotogaleria/D3/zdjecia_zoptymalizowane/D3_07.JPG

http://www.osadagencz.budmax.info/fotogaleria/D3/zdjecia_zoptymalizowane/D3_04.jpg

http://www.osadagencz.budmax.info/fotogaleria/Handlowo/zdjecia_zoptymalizowane/BUDYNEK_HANDLOWO_USLUGOWY_2.jpg

http://www.osadagencz.budmax.info/fotogaleria/W8/zdjecia_zoptymalizowane/W8_WIDOK_OD_POLNOCNEGO_ZACHODU_2.jpg

http://www.osadagencz.budmax.info/fotogaleria/Osada/zdjecia_zoptymalizowane/WIDOK_OD_STRONY_POLUDNIOWO_WSCHODNIEJ.jpg

Almost as good as 1970's cheap American hotels

Almost as good as 1970's cheap American hotels

Ok, that's your independent point of view and I'm not gonna quarrel about it with you ;P

I meant to say "motels"

=)

And how did they look like ?

we have a web site with a lot of new suburb houses for sale near Moscow collected. it's in Russian, but i know that a lot of u here can read Russian, so if anybody interested u can look here.
http://www.poselki.ru/
Here is one that will b built near Rostov on Don
that's how it's gonna look from above
http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/432/54298472va8.jpg
and 2 projects of houses
http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/6822/33098625qy1.jpg
http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/6209/77581208ib3.jpg

Golf & Spa Resort http://www.eskizara.com/images/EskiZaraLogo150.jpg Stara Zagora, BULGARIA, EU


An 18 hole golf course
Between 500 and 1000 unique and very high quality villas

http://www.thetravelbug.org/villazone.jpg

http://www.eskizara.com/index.html



The Eskizara project is a huge development planned for an area close to the existing Stara Zagora Mineral Spa resort. It is the brain child of Evelina Cole (Bulgarian) and Stephen Cole (British) who are resident in Bulgaria.

It has taken over two years to source and buy large enough tracts of land to build an eighteen hole golf course and between 500 and 1000 unique and very high quality villas. Contracts and agreements have been sought and put in place for all the necessary services - electricity, sewerage, water and so on.

The development consists of 23 individual villa zones as above, surrounding the 18 hole golf course. The villas are available in a number of different styles - Mediterranean, Bulgarian and Eastern and purchasers can customise their villa to their own requirements, including using on site manufacturers to put in, for example, a copy of a Roman mosaic floor as a centre piece or stone work for a fireplace or on the patio. Purchasers can finish the walls with a choice of colours and floors can be stained or polished wood. All bathrooms and shower rooms and kitchen floors are tiled and the bathrooms come fully fitted and the main bathroom in each villa has marble flooring. Doors and banisters can be finished in white or natural effect wood, windows are PVC or aluminium and can be white or in a selection of colours. Each property has central heating and a traditional luxury fire place and water filtering systems. Outside there will be a built in barbeque and an intercom system. Gardens will be finished with landscaped areas and external lighting.

The zones will have completed roads and pavements and 24 hour security.

The villas even come with a fully stocked wine cellar with wines specially selected from regions of Bulgaria.

Each villa will have high speed internet access, satellite TV and all the conveniences of modern day living.

And only those who have bought a villa through this development will be able to play on the golf course. There will be no pay and play as there are at most of the golf courses being built around Bulgaria, membership of this golf course will be exclusively for owners of the villas in this development and their guests. Although details have yet to be decided upon it is likely that all villa owners will get the first year of golf membership free or some other discount/special offer. Those who wish to rent their villas out will be able to provide licenses to their guests to play on the course. Plus another great bonus for those renting out their villa, is that the guests simply swipe their credit card into an automated utility provider and then at the end of their stay they are charged for the electricity and water etc that they have used.

On site there will be restaurants, shops, swimming pools, beauty treatments, cosmetic dentistry centre, coffee shops, a spa treatment centre and children's play areas. It is much more than just a golf resort.



http://www.eskizara.com/images/4-200.jpg

Aturen Stara Zagora, BULGARIA, EU Update



http://www.aturen.com/images/g_plan.jpg


http://www.aturen.com/


Specifications:

• Area 146,280 decare;
• 64 070 sq.m. housing spread built up area;
• 348 units (298 housing units);
• 980 - 1 000 inhabitants;



The ATUREN residential district is the first large-scale completely new type of Project in Stara Zagora.

It combines a perfect location and original architectural planning creating the most favorable conditions of living. All this guarantees to its inhabitants a quiet living environment, safety, piece and closeness to areas of public services, entertainment and sports, environmentally friendly space, well maintained infrastructure, security guard, order etc.


http://www.aturen.com/images/p_01.jpg

http://www.aturen.com/images/rk_23.jpg

http://www.aturen.com/images/ek_32.jpg


Standard houses

http://www.aturen.com/images/rk_12.jpg

http://www.aturen.com/images/rk_22.jpg

http://www.aturen.com/images/rk_32.jpg

http://www.aturen.com/images/rk_42.jpg


One family houses

http://www.aturen.com/images/ek_12.jpg

http://www.aturen.com/images/ek_22.jpg

http://www.aturen.com/images/ek_3.jpg

http://www.aturen.com/images/ek_42.jpg


Two family houses


http://www.aturen.com/images/dk_12.jpg

http://www.aturen.com/images/dk_22.jpg

http://www.aturen.com/images/dk_32.jpg

http://www.aturen.com/images/dk_42.jpg



Construction Update

Azhur House

http://www.aturen.com/photos/P1010924.JPG

http://www.aturen.com/photos/P1013584.JPG

http://www.aturen.com/photos/P1013569.JPG

http://www.aturen.com/photos/P1014899.JPG


Kristal House

http://www.aturen.com/photos/P1014795.JPG


2 x Mikonos Houses


http://www.aturen.com/photos/P1012707.JPG

http://www.aturen.com/photos/P1014900.JPG

http://www.aturen.com/photos/P1014797.JPG


3 x Ariadna Houses

http://www.aturen.com/photos/P1011600.JPG

http://www.aturen.com/photos/P1014839.JPG


2 X Atina Houses

http://www.aturen.com/photos/P1011855.JPG

http://www.aturen.com/photos/P1014846.JPG

I think near Boyana, Sofia there is a sprawl made to be 1:1 to the US ones- (especially those California-likes completely lack of taste) pretty dumb I think. I first thought they're using it for movie making (because of the nearby studio) but it seems it's for residential needs. Thank God it's small. Sprawls looks even more artificial than the commies IMO. One thing is a common house, or district with houses, completely another is some made-up housing project. But I've seen some good though.

projects and U/C in Varna, Bulgaria:

Orchid Hills Varna :
http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/9022/96140795bs6.th.jpg (http://img261.imageshack.us/my.php?image=96140795bs6.jpg)

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/800/34856949kh9.th.jpg (http://img210.imageshack.us/my.php?image=34856949kh9.jpg)

http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/6415/74647147ux7.th.jpg (http://img405.imageshack.us/my.php?image=74647147ux7.jpg)

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/4638/98191488gi6.th.jpg (http://img210.imageshack.us/my.php?image=98191488gi6.jpg)

^^ this again isn't a sprawl :lol:

Yeah, those are more commieblokish. Wow I can't believe it's been over a year since I started this thread :( I hate time :(

Orienburg. Russia.

Taken from http://city.e-orenburg.ru


http://city.e-orenburg.ru/PhotoGallery/Rostoshi/data/Rostoshi4.JPG

http://city.e-orenburg.ru/PhotoGallery/Rostoshi/data/Rostoshi3.JPG

http://city.e-orenburg.ru/PhotoGallery/Rostoshi/data/Rostoshi2.JPG

http://city.e-orenburg.ru/PhotoGallery/Rostoshi/data/rost_881.jpg

http://city.e-orenburg.ru/PhotoGallery/Rostoshi/data/Rostoshi1.JPG

http://city.e-orenburg.ru/PhotoGallery/Rostoshi/data/city_739.jpg

http://city.e-orenburg.ru/PhotoGallery/Rostoshi/data/city_738.jpg

http://city.e-orenburg.ru/PhotoGallery/Rostoshi/data/rost_737.jpg

http://city.e-orenburg.ru/PhotoGallery/Rostoshi/data/rost_729.jpg

http://city.e-orenburg.ru/PhotoGallery/Rostoshi/data/rost_724.jpg

http://city.e-orenburg.ru/PhotoGallery/Rostoshi/data/rost_720.jpg

http://city.e-orenburg.ru/PhotoGallery/Rostoshi/data/rost_716.jpg

http://city.e-orenburg.ru/PhotoGallery/Rostoshi/data/rost_714.jpg

http://city.e-orenburg.ru/PhotoGallery/Rostoshi/data/rost_599.jpg

http://city.e-orenburg.ru/PhotoGallery/Rostoshi/data/Rost_501.jpg

http://city.e-orenburg.ru/PhotoGallery/Rostoshi/data/Rost_508.jpg

http://city.e-orenburg.ru/PhotoGallery/Rostoshi/data/rost_202.jpg

http://city.e-orenburg.ru/PhotoGallery/Rostoshi/data/ros_118.jpg

http://city.e-orenburg.ru/PhotoGallery/Rostoshi/data/ros_001.jpg

http://city.e-orenburg.ru/PhotoGallery/Rostoshi/data/ros_113.jpg

http://city.e-orenburg.ru/PhotoGallery/prigorod/data/prig_029.jpg

http://city.e-orenburg.ru/PhotoGallery/prigorod/data/prig_038.jpg

http://city.e-orenburg.ru/PhotoGallery/prigorod/data/prig_028.jpg

http://city.e-orenburg.ru/PhotoGallery/prigorod/data/prig_027.jpg

http://city.e-orenburg.ru/PhotoGallery/prigorod/data/prig_025.jpg

http://city.e-orenburg.ru/PhotoGallery/prigorod/data/prig_014.jpg

http://city.e-orenburg.ru/PhotoGallery/prigorod/data/prig_015.jpg

http://city.e-orenburg.ru/PhotoGallery/prigorod/data/prig_010.jpg

http://city.e-orenburg.ru/PhotoGallery/prigorod/data/prig_013.jpg

http://city.e-orenburg.ru/PhotoGallery/prigorod/data/prig_001.jpg

http://city.e-orenburg.ru/PhotoGallery/Sun/data/sun_024.jpg

http://city.e-orenburg.ru/PhotoGallery/Sun/data/sun_020.jpg

http://city.e-orenburg.ru/PhotoGallery/Sun/data/sun_019.jpg

http://city.e-orenburg.ru/PhotoGallery/Sun/data/sun_012.jpg

http://city.e-orenburg.ru/PhotoGallery/Sun/data/sun_002.jpg

^^Very nice quarter here.I like that area planning.
Greetings from Slovakia to our Slavic brothers in Russia.:)

^^Very nice quarter here.I like that area planning.
Greetings from Slovakia to our Slavic brothers in Russia.:)
:cheers: