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Locke
February 3rd, 2007, 06:31 AM
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Platypus
February 3rd, 2007, 07:07 AM
Impressive! You should put this in the international forum.

Bronteboy
February 3rd, 2007, 07:16 AM
Wow, that is an impressive list:) , and the design values in the larger buildings are something to behold. Well done Brisbane - looking forward to following it all. :)

RocStar
February 3rd, 2007, 07:49 AM
What more could you want!..Don't answer that. Very impressive list indeed. Go Brisbane.

Alibaba
February 3rd, 2007, 08:12 AM
great work guys.... yes should bring them on the international forum

Fabian
February 4th, 2007, 02:47 AM
Great summary. It will beef the skyline up sgnificantly.

Clover Moore and Friends should check this thread, because Sydney has a real challenge on its hands scraperwise.

Locke
February 4th, 2007, 03:14 AM
Worth taking into account there are likely two twin 70 storey mixed-use towers to be proposed on eagle street pier this year, so that will be another two 250m towers in all likelihood, maybe taller, maybe lower.

That would bring Brisbane up to a potential six 230-260m to roof towers proposed. By way of comparison there are only about 6 such towers built in the whole country atm.

There's also the 40+ storey office indigo tower to be annouced soon, said to be a spectacular design, could reach 200m but probabl 150-200m, and of course all the Northbank talls. So busy busy.

Brissy4me
February 4th, 2007, 06:02 AM
^^ and loving it ;)

I am glad to be living in Brisbane with all this vibrance and a bustling development industry creating world class buildings and designs.

Brizzy-Mike
February 5th, 2007, 05:59 AM
Got nothing on Dubai, but that's development on steroids. Go Brizzy

CULWULLA
February 5th, 2007, 06:08 AM
its all happening in brissy! some good, some not so good. but most of tallies are f.a.b
lets hope some actually start up soon.!
thanks locke

Grollo
February 5th, 2007, 07:09 AM
Nice thread Locke, it's hard to keep a track of them all sometimes.

zulu69
February 5th, 2007, 07:51 AM
Very impressive. Most have a good design as well. The skyline will no doubt be up there once these babies get built. No doubt that more are coming as well. Exciting times for brizzy.

A r c h i
February 5th, 2007, 08:22 AM
Finally getting the skyline it deserves. Impressive...most impressive. :) Some of the renders aren't that great but it means some of the buildings might turn out pretty shit hot and may surprise. Really looking foward to the Northbank development.

Bullswool
February 5th, 2007, 08:37 AM
I am so jealous, hopefully Perth will catch up somehow :), proposals are slowly getting bigger lol.

Eureka!
February 5th, 2007, 10:46 AM
Wow! I never knew there were so many. And thye good thing is I like almost all of the designs and love the tallies! Go Brissy! I just can't wait till an Aussie city takes the next step and goes 400m+!!! Which one will get there first? Any guesses?

Bullswool
February 5th, 2007, 11:22 AM
Probably Melbourne or the Gold Coast lol, but lets think about more 300m towers first =P

KJBrissy
February 5th, 2007, 11:34 PM
Well, an article in the paper said that the Brisbane City Council were annoyed that the Brisbane Airport are not changing the flight paths over the CBD and that this would hamper taller building being built. Vision was easily approved by both authorities at 283m, so you never know. Brisbane City Council really wants to go as tall as possible, it's more just whether it will come or not!!!

Oriolus
February 6th, 2007, 03:33 AM
I'm finding it hard to get really excited about the glut of amazing skyscrapers in Brisbane. If everyone of those buildings were actually built in the next five years it would be mindblowing...but I don't see it happening. I guess that's partly because of the lengthly delays with Vision, but at the moment the barrier between seeing it on paper, and seeing it in reality just seems really huge. At the moment I kind of don't want to know about them until they actually begin construction because I'm tired of waiting in vane.

Macca-GC
February 6th, 2007, 11:17 PM
I think the long wait on Vision has been because of the deflation of the housing market and also the fact that this is one of the first major towers in Brisbane with high-end apartments. You know, the ones which cost $2.5mill+. Now those types of apartments would sell on the Gold Coast, but it just takes more time to clear them out in Brisbane.

Most of these towers are office buildings anyway, and with Brisbane's 0.7%vacancy rate, they're highly needed.

Icanseeformiles
February 7th, 2007, 01:11 AM
We'd have a few of those beaut's down here in a flash. Nice one Bris' Go for it!

KJBrissy
February 7th, 2007, 01:33 AM
Only 7 of the towers are purely residential and of that 2 of them are starting within 2 months!

nerazzurri
February 7th, 2007, 02:14 AM
More importantly, in the Rate the Brisbane city skyline thread please. :D

KJBrissy
February 7th, 2007, 05:18 AM
31 Tank Street has been redesigned at 150m tall and is now called Northbridge! Thread (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=377409&page=2)

Locke
February 7th, 2007, 05:35 AM
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KJBrissy
February 7th, 2007, 05:39 AM
It would actually rank as Brisbane's 6th tallest currently and equal 11th tallest if everything taller in the list above gets built!

CULWULLA
February 7th, 2007, 05:48 AM
heres an update diagram. had to reshuffle

http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/2491/brisbanemarchfx0.jpg

KJBrissy
February 7th, 2007, 05:58 AM
Brisbane will have many buildings between 140m and 160m by the end of this!!

CULWULLA
February 7th, 2007, 06:03 AM
^yes, thats what the CBD needs, lots of 500footers before it gets more 200m+ towers. This should balance the city and densify the core.

camzano
February 7th, 2007, 06:43 AM
Cull for once I do not agree with you more tallies please

Locke
February 7th, 2007, 06:59 AM
Cull for once I do not agree with you more tallies please

Amen to that. I've been loving the recent crop of tallies, they make a great foundation for a landmark tower, so I am putting a request out there with the universe for a 450m tower for Brisbane!:) A 2IFC or thereabouts will do it. Watch this space;)

Citystyle
February 7th, 2007, 08:57 AM
Such enthusiasm.

CULWULLA
February 7th, 2007, 09:08 AM
sorry but thats what your gonna get.lol
from that diagram, i can see most being started in 2007/8. maybe one or two will fall by the way side.

Locke
February 7th, 2007, 09:18 AM
sorry but thats what your gonna get..

That must be the famous Sydney attitude to tall buildings, how's that working out for you?;)

CULWULLA
February 7th, 2007, 09:32 AM
^im not sure what ya mean? im just telling camzano that brisbane will get more 100-150m projects with a few 200m+ thrown in.

Locke
February 7th, 2007, 09:43 AM
I'm saying you gotta think big Cull, for Brisbane that means, with up to 6 Rialtos in the works, that the focus now turns to next logical step - a full blown supertall. It will be fun to stand on the OB deck at 400m and see the Gold Coast from it:)

CULWULLA
February 7th, 2007, 10:27 AM
^ah ok? i dont know about a 400m for brissy or even 300m. i think you gotta get 250m projects first. Vision will be the start, and hopefully followed by the 240m twins.They have to do something about the height limit.

Trawler
February 7th, 2007, 12:45 PM
They have to do something about the height limit.

Move the airport? :)

Locke
February 7th, 2007, 01:10 PM
^ah ok? i dont know about a 400m for brissy or even 300m. i think you gotta get 250m projects first. Vision will be the start, and hopefully followed by the 240m twins.They have to do something about the height limit.

Well we got 283m of Vision already (yes it has to be built but we are projecting in the future here - it will be built by the time any 400m+ tower starts, as will Empire, 480, Eagle Street Pier and who knows what else, if that is not a foundation for a 400m tower then I don't know what is).

Anyway height limits are not an issue, the new cityplan removes the 250m impact assessable height this year, CASA's height limits as demonstrated on Vision, much like with every building in Brisbane history that went over 250m has proved to be a non issue. But just to make the point Council are on the airport's case that more taller buildings are coming for Brisbane.

All the stars are aligned in Brisbane right now. We don't just have a council that doesn't mind tall buildings, they actually LIKE them and WANT them!:)

Tyson
February 7th, 2007, 01:19 PM
Well eventually Brisbane will have at least one supertall but I doubt it will be in the foreseeable future.

Locke
February 7th, 2007, 01:38 PM
I don't know if there is such a thing as forseeable future in Brisbane.

If five years ago with CP1 tallest and with Riparian just approved you would have suggested that in a few years you would have Vision,Empire Square,480 Queen Street, Emerald Tower, Eagle Street 70 twins etc all planned then I doubt people would have said it was a realistic scenario. People's projections were FAR more modest... Much like the ones about the future are today. But well, here we are.

CULWULLA
February 7th, 2007, 09:50 PM
of course, I see Brisbane more then any other city to boom with tall bldgs over next decade. but i see Vision as a 250m skyscraper with a stick, not a 283m skyscraper. gee im sounding like im from melbourne.lol
but you know what i mean.To get a skyscraper all the way to roof over 300m is a big leap.but as you said, who would of thought all these new projects just 5 years ago.

brissieroy
February 8th, 2007, 01:33 AM
of course, I see Brisbane more then any other city to boom with tall bldgs over next decade. but i see Vision as a 250m skyscraper with a stick, not a 283m skyscraper. gee im sounding like im from melbourne.lol
but you know what i mean.To get a skyscraper all the way to roof over 300m is a big leap.but as you said, who would of thought all these new projects just 5 years ago.

I absolutely agree with you there Cul... I WISH Vision was a 283m building, but it is only a 259m building with a big fin and not a 283m scraper at all....hopefully one day we may crack the big 300m - but without a bloody spire/fin!!

scottsimmons80
February 8th, 2007, 02:35 AM
I only wish that Locke was a developer with loads of money to spend!! What a skyline we'd have then, eh? :lol: :lol:

Malt
February 8th, 2007, 02:44 AM
I agree with locke in that I think in the next 5 years we will be surprised with what we see. I dont know what that may be, Whether its 50 more 140-250m buildings... or a 300m+.

camzano
February 8th, 2007, 07:07 AM
yay for us more please:0 thank Locke

Fabian
February 8th, 2007, 09:52 AM
Only 7 of the towers are purely residential and of that 2 of them are starting within 2 months!

At least two thirds of the mentioned proposals are commerical. Then Vision, Empire Square and 480 Queen will include a significant amount of office space in each.

It's good to see Brisbane focusing more on office towers. Thats about double the number of Sydney that are proposed or approved at present. It will be good for business. The demand is there too. Very lucky as well.

Tyson
February 8th, 2007, 10:09 AM
Roughly how much office space are we looking at from all those buildings combined?

KJBrissy
February 8th, 2007, 10:24 AM
The AFR said 70,000sqm has come online in the last 6 months. Don't know how that relates to these buildings though.

Tyson
February 8th, 2007, 10:47 AM
Just as a rough guess I think it would about like this:

Transit Centre = 60,000.
275 George = 50,000.
400 George = 30,000.
31 Tank = 30,000.
Vision = 30,000.
Empire Square = 26,000.
179 Turbot = 25,000.
480 Queen = 20,000.
333 Ann = 16,600.

Which combined with some of the smaller projects is probably close to 300,000 sqm. This would have to be over a timeframe of 3-4 years? Is there really that much demand in Brisbane both presently and in the future? That space there is nearly 25% of the amount of space that Brisbane has already.

Locke
February 8th, 2007, 11:23 AM
In the Brisbane news section I posted an article from the Courier-Mail about office uptake, and there is one from the AFR that Archi posted in this sub forum in the office developments thread.

The upshot of them was... Office vacancies are literally zero, and that is taking into account more than 70 000 sqm coming online in the last six months. The outlook for the short to medium term will remain tight, especially as some of these buildings will take 4 years to build as it is.

Just yesterday Stockland released their half year results - record profits. They are very excited about the Brisbane office market and speeding up their development pipeline by launching a lot of projects in 2007.

Trawler
February 8th, 2007, 11:28 AM
And keep in mind that a some of these new office towers tenancies are already spoken for.

KJBrissy
February 9th, 2007, 02:06 AM
Just as a rough guess I think it would about like this:

Transit Centre = 60,000.
275 George = 50,000.
400 George = 30,000.
31 Tank = 30,000.
Vision = 30,000.
Empire Square = 26,000.
179 Turbot = 25,000.
480 Queen = 20,000.
333 Ann = 16,600.

Which combined with some of the smaller projects is probably close to 300,000 sqm. This would have to be over a timeframe of 3-4 years? Is there really that much demand in Brisbane both presently and in the future? That space there is nearly 25% of the amount of space that Brisbane has already.

Easily room. The economy is booming and developers for quite a while have for some reason only been interested in residential towers. The last decent Office Towers built in the CBD before Brisbane Square were CP1 and Waterfront Place. That was ages ago!!!

KJBrissy
February 9th, 2007, 04:21 AM
By the end of this we'll have 11 scrapers over 150m and 12 if Emerald Towers goes ahead!!

We had two 2 years ago!!!!!!!

Orfeo
February 9th, 2007, 08:53 AM
Just as a rough guess I think it would about like this:

Transit Centre = 60,000.
275 George = 50,000.
400 George = 30,000.
31 Tank = 30,000.
Vision = 30,000.
Empire Square = 26,000.
179 Turbot = 25,000.
480 Queen = 20,000.
333 Ann = 16,600.


Don't quote me on all these figures, but the ones I've marked with a * I'm certain of:

Transit Centre = 72,000*
275 George = 40,000
400 George = 43,000*
31 Tank/Northbridge = 37,000*
Vision = 35,000
Empire Square = 22,000sqm*
179 Turbot = 32.000*
480 Queen = 34,000*
333 Ann = 16,700*

Total = 331,700 sqm, and this doesn't include any of the smaller projects.....

Citystyle
February 9th, 2007, 01:04 PM
Don't quote me on all these figures, but the ones I've marked with a * I'm certain of:

Transit Centre = 72,000*
275 George = 40,000
400 George = 43,000*
31 Tank/Northbridge = 37,000*
Vision = 35,000
Empire Square = 22,000sqm*
179 Turbot = 32.000*
480 Queen = 34,000*
333 Ann = 16,700*

Total = 331,700 sqm, and this doesn't include any of the smaller projects.....
Thats alot, there are some that wont get built or else you could have a hang over.
Perth currently has around 150,000sqm proposed and another 150,000sqm over ten years. In the last two years over 150,000sqm has been taken up.

CULWULLA
February 9th, 2007, 01:50 PM
yes its great with boom in brisbane. just imagine how you guys would be if we go back to say 1990 just after the late 80's boom and the forum started then? was it only 1 or 2 skyscrapers built in the 90's? that would kill you guys these days. and those bldgs were only 100m high.
since 2000, its been only getting better with supertalls being mooted.

Orfeo
February 9th, 2007, 02:16 PM
Thats alot, there are some that wont get built or else you could have a hang over.


Perhaps, but many of these projects are either UC already (3 of 9) or otherwise pre-committed (3 of 9, 4 if Vision is included). Consider also that absorbtion is very high, 56,000 sqm over the last 6 months if the APC are to be believed, and these projects are going to completed over the next 5 years or so.

GMAC
February 10th, 2007, 08:27 AM
Its not that big a stretch of the imagination to think that Brisbane office market could absorb roughly 60,000 sqm a year over the next 5 years. The developers seem to be able to react quickly to market trends as we have seen with the office market taking over the residential boom we have just had, it wasnt that many years ago that all we ever seemed to get was residential towers, and we were begging for office towers. If I remember correctly Vision and 480 Queen have both increased office space since there original proposals and 333 Ann St was to be resi initially, all beit with a different developer.

I just hope that the skyrocketing rents dont reduce CBD demand, and that the council and State Govt can keep the infrastructure development up to speed, the last thing we need is a lack of infrastructure to hinder development.

One thing I will say, having flown in from Darwin at 5:30am this morning (and I know you cant compare Brisbane and Darwin), even at that time of the morning Brisbane somehow felt much bigger than it ever has before.

All in all, very exciting times ahead for Brisbane and all of SEQ for that matter. In the 7 years that Ive lived here its been fantastic to be part of a changing city, especially a city that has really grown, like a teenager becoming an adult, cant wait for the next 7 years.....bring it on!!!!

Tyson
February 10th, 2007, 10:43 AM
Does the measure of "absorption" include pre committed space? If a tennant signs for space that has not yet been built, has that space been absorbed already or does it become absorbed at the time when the tennant moves in?

I assume it isn't?

Also if a tennant moves into a new office then you have positive absorption and the space they vacated becomes negative absorption. If no one fills the space that has become vacated then the effective net absorption remains at zero with neither a positive nor negative absorption. They cancel each other out don't they?

Orfeo
February 10th, 2007, 03:18 PM
^
absorption is only space actually taken up by the market - pre-commited space counts for nothing in the figures. You're also correct is saying that if the original space remains vacant, then the addition of space would not increase the absorption (however the % vacant would change, though not by much, with the addition of space).

Danubis
May 22nd, 2007, 02:55 PM
given the past week in brisbnae, I thought it fitting to revive this thread

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/danubiis/brisbaneboomrundown.jpg

and malt - >

At muse's request.

Given the current renders not that easy to do it accurately.. but heres something to look at

http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/7015/riversideeaglestsh8.jpg

Danubis
May 22nd, 2007, 03:10 PM
curtisy of soulvisionq1 - >

Ok updated... I made my own prediction of the height... which is 278M for tower 1 and around 250M for tower 2... But remember, tower 2 is based on future CBD commercial & hotel stock.. so don't get too excited about tower 2 just yet.
http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m173/soulvisionQ2/Brisbanetowerdisplaycopy3.jpg

BrizzyChris
May 22nd, 2007, 03:24 PM
Would be nice if we had 7 x 190m+ towers finished in just one year (2011). I have this feeling at least 2-3 towers will fall through though.

Danubis
May 22nd, 2007, 03:27 PM
ya, i hope none do, but I always have the niggly feeling in the back of my mind that somthing will go horribly wrong lol.

but as it stands, it seems 2011 will be THE year for brisbane.

perhaps we may even have our top 10 buildings all above 200m?!

Trawler
May 22nd, 2007, 03:30 PM
^^ Well there hasn't been much noise about Empire Square lately, but I suppose that's not entirely unusual at this stage of the game.

I just hope at least one of those Eagle St Towers, Vision and Riverside 2 make it all the way up. I've also got a soft spot for 480 and the Q Centre.

Ari Gold
May 22nd, 2007, 03:34 PM
It just makes you wonder how massive the difference between Australia's third and forth cities. Riverside at 194m isnt a 'major' building for Brisvegas yet it would be the holy grail for Perth.

Top effort Brissy. If only we would learn. lol.

Lord Melbourne
May 22nd, 2007, 04:17 PM
http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/7015/riversideeaglestsh8.jpg

Hey guys lovin all the new proposals for Brissie amazing to think that only a few years ago it was so different.

The one exception in my view is Riparian , I absolutely hate it . It should be called RIPE DURIAN cause its design stinks. What was old Harry thinkin when he designed it.

Great stuff otherwise . Keep em comming.

RUM
May 22nd, 2007, 06:52 PM
Would be nice if we had 7 x 190m+ towers finished in just one year (2011). I have this feeling at least 2-3 towers will fall through though.

Hate to say it, but I think I am going to have to agree with you. Just look back and history and not all buildings that are proposed get built.

Bronteboy
May 22nd, 2007, 06:54 PM
Humbly requesting MORE photo mocks up with all planned and u/c projects including Vision in them. This is Brisbane Week. Let's not get carried away...but let's get carried away! So what if a couple fall through. It's still going to be great. Where's Locke of the North when we need him?

Ari Gold
May 22nd, 2007, 07:54 PM
Well which ones are most likely to fall through??? Mereton? Eagle Pier 2?

Malt
May 23rd, 2007, 12:56 AM
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/3425/riverside2eaglest480quexl0.jpg

There is 480 queen added

Brissy_Lad
May 23rd, 2007, 12:56 AM
Champion :bow:



275 George = 50,000.



And is fully tenanted already, so you can clear 50,000 - and CP3 is fully tenanted so thats clear off the available leasing area list to. I think Brissy central is booked up aswell...

Trawler
May 23rd, 2007, 01:30 AM
I think the resi towers are the ones most at risk of not happening. A spanner in the works for them will be 480's growth spurt, though I think most of that will be for a hotel.

My greatest fear is Vision not getting past the initial stages.

Can someone find a render of Vision that will fit in with that skyline pic?

tic
May 23rd, 2007, 01:39 AM
I don't think any of these will fall through. Brisbane commercial vacancies are at 0.5%! - The lowest in the country, thereby forcing rents up to Sydney numbers. Companies are screaming out for more space (and lots of it). I was reading yesterday that Brisbane also had the lowest hotel vacancy rate in the World. A number of these new towers are proposing hotel space (as part of mixed use), including Empire Square. So it seems there will be plenty of demand for commercial and hotel space, and the apartment components should do ok by the time these babies enter the market.

BrizzyChris
May 23rd, 2007, 02:21 AM
I see 480 Queen St, Eagle St 2, 549 Queen St all being possible ones that don't make it.

Bronteboy
May 23rd, 2007, 03:03 AM
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/3425/riverside2eaglest480quexl0.jpg

There is 480 queen added

Thanks Malt - excellent work. Wasn't meaning to demean your pic/render contribution to this, btw.

Bullswool
May 23rd, 2007, 04:14 AM
Is there actually demand for all these though? I can't see them all being completed.

Trawler
May 23rd, 2007, 04:42 AM
Developers wouldn't be proposing buildings if they didn't foresee demand. It's an expensive process just to get a DA happening. It's not as if they work in a vacuum, they know what other projects are up and coming before we do.

Fact is that both Qld and WA will continue to have strong growth as long as China and India continue to grow. So yes, I see most of these towers making their way up. All? Perhaps not.

Wezza
May 23rd, 2007, 04:46 AM
Is there actually demand for all these though? I can't see them all being completed.

Apparently there is!! :)

tbor
May 23rd, 2007, 04:57 AM
Demand? Build them all, and let the market decide! :P

I'll be planning a trip to Brissy in 2011-12 haha

tic
May 23rd, 2007, 07:18 AM
Is there actually demand for all these though? I can't see them all being completed.

Then you know little about present Brisbane market conditions.

Powerman
May 23rd, 2007, 07:25 AM
YEAH, Great News, Frankfurt loves you! I love Australia!

CULWULLA
May 23rd, 2007, 07:38 AM
meritons 70storey will go ahead. harryT builds EVERYTHING he proposes!! Im speaking with 20 years experienced first hand.

Trawler
May 23rd, 2007, 08:02 AM
Cul you're quite the HarryT fan! Do you think he'll stick with the current height once the new city plan comes into play? Or is 70st the sweet spot for the Brisbane market?

Bullswool
May 23rd, 2007, 02:34 PM
Developers wouldn't be proposing buildings if they didn't foresee demand. It's an expensive process just to get a DA happening. It's not as if they work in a vacuum, they know what other projects are up and coming before we do.

Fact is that both Qld and WA will continue to have strong growth as long as China and India continue to grow. So yes, I see most of these towers making their way up. All? Perhaps not.

There have been a lot of huge proposals that have fallen through in history, the fact is, Brisbane isn't void of this presence :p

Then you know little about present Brisbane market conditions.
Get back to me in 5yrs, i just don't see them all getting built.

Alibaba
May 23rd, 2007, 03:19 PM
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/3425/riverside2eaglest480quexl0.jpg

There is 480 queen added

that will be really sexy skyline ! plenty of glass and colours... huge leap to what it is now

are they emerald green/blue-sh colours for the new towers?

Brizbane2
May 23rd, 2007, 06:19 PM
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t90/Brizbane2/3d%20Model/07-05-23rdpano.jpg
Quick mockup of Eagle St pier towers in context. I think they look good from their thin angle.

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t90/Brizbane2/3d%20Model/07-05-23rdpanoB.jpg

KJBrissy
May 24th, 2007, 12:13 AM
Regarding the sustainability of all the buildings and whether they'll be built or not. I really think the only buildings that have a high chance of not making it through are 2 in Petrie Bight, the one at 590 Adelaide Street and the one on Quuen Street.

My reasoning for this are as follows:

The Office vacancy rate, from what I remember is less than 1%. Many of the buildings that fell through such as Brisbane Central and the others were proposed when the vacancy rate was more than 10%, and by developers who had little experience. Remember CP1 and Waterfront place were constructed when the vacancy rate were about 13%. Many of the buildings U/C have pre-commitments and buildings such as 400 George and Riverside Centre II are being built speculatively.

Hotel: We have the lowest hotel vacancy rate in the world and therefore any help we can get is essential. There were reports saying that even with 480 Queen Street, Empire Square and the Elizabeth Street Hotel will be no where near enough. The Hilton Hotel had 99% occupancy rate last month!!! This isn't even the peak season.

Residential: Rents are just going up and up, especially for innercity units. The rent increases are far exceeding CPI increases, and Brisbane isreally promoting its CBD and high density living. Although the most volitile ATM, it is still in demand. Residential units can also be used as short term accommodation. This too increases their demand.

This is my reasoning to think that, other than for unforseen circumstances, all the buildings other than those two in Petrie Bight should get up.

CULWULLA
May 24th, 2007, 12:45 AM
Cul you're quite the HarryT fan! Do you think he'll stick with the current height once the new city plan comes into play? Or is 70st the sweet spot for the Brisbane market?
Im a fan of harryT because he gets things done! I think the sites FSR only allows 70floors so he will just go to 250mRL. which is big enough.

in todays fin rev, theres a "storey" about how meriton have engaged DBI architects to design the tower.
Brisbane council have said how they applaud sydney city council by having design comps for important sites.
something they may adopt due to many planned highrise for brisbane that may become blights on skyline.
Im quite confident with DBI.
great diagrams brisbne2. amazing what 6 x 200m+ skyscrapers do to a small CBD.

tic
May 24th, 2007, 01:05 AM
Quote by Bullswool
Get back to me in 5yrs, i just don't see them all getting built.[/QUOTE]

What you mean to say is "i just don't want them to be built". Put the little green jealous monster back in the box.

Bullswool
May 24th, 2007, 03:23 AM
LOL no, i admit i am jealous but i am sceptical. Hell I was sceptical of the 1000 apartments of the emy brewery project in Perth, which is apparently the biggest apartment complex in australia. The first tower of 300 apartments got sold to 10, 000 potential buyers, so i am no longer sceptical :).

At the moment I see no proof of all these getting built, it is just one proposal after the next. I am not being biased or jealous with my scepticalism thanks :) I just don't see the viability of so many.

I just think that you guys are blindly excited is all.

tic
May 24th, 2007, 03:51 AM
Three things. Firstly, you will find that Brisbane has a history of converting nearly every proposal. There are only a few that spring to mind that haven't proceeded - one being Emerald which has been dogged by heritage/town planning problems and is bogged down in court. Secondly, recent announcements are either approved or moving to DA stage. The DA stage is expensive and not taken lightly by developers. Thirdly, the commercial market in Brisbane is tighter than anywhere in Australia and the hotel sector has the lowest vacancy rates IN THE WORLD. Add to this, the robust apartment market, and you can see that these announcements are likely to become reality - remember, Brisbane is the mixed use tower capital of Australia atm - this is what makes these proposals viable.

KJBrissy
May 24th, 2007, 04:14 AM
Yeah, the fact that most are mixed use also increases the viability. Makes it more likely to go ahead in a shakey environment, as the other sections can pick up the tag. It's like building 3x70m highrises instead of 1x240m tower.

Bullswool
May 24th, 2007, 04:14 AM
Well we'll see, you can understand my sceptism, Perth has hard times that we have just gotten out of lol.

Bronteboy
May 24th, 2007, 04:33 AM
For some reason I have every confidence that most of these will be built: Brisbane has its historically low vacancy rates (1%) and fully booked hotels to support that proposition - and equally important, the momentum and the will.

This is just Brisbane's time now: and it's good to see.

Incidentally, I don't see why Perth has come through a hard time. ^^ The State is enjoying one of the longest resources booms in its history. Its biggest problem is a labor shortage.

tbor
May 24th, 2007, 06:21 AM
I think he is referring to the oversupply we suffered during the nineties.

The flow on effect is that the big banks are reluctant to bank-roll new projects in Perth unless you secure an anchor tenant. And for apartment buildings this means a certain number must be sold on launch etc.

Ari Gold
May 24th, 2007, 11:28 AM
Kudos to Brizzy. Really hope all of these come to fruition.

Sexy Time for Brisvegas :banana:

Fabian
May 24th, 2007, 11:49 AM
Great times for Brisbane!!!! I just cannot see it stopping!!!!!

It's time for a supertall. I was looking at that render of the Riverside Talls and I was thinking that there will have to be one tower that will stand out!!!!!

Bullswool
May 24th, 2007, 12:05 PM
For some reason I have every confidence that most of these will be built: Brisbane has its historically low vacancy rates (1%) and fully booked hotels to support that proposition - and equally important, the momentum and the will.

This is just Brisbane's time now: and it's good to see.

Incidentally, I don't see why Perth has come through a hard time. ^^ The State is enjoying one of the longest resources booms in its history. Its biggest problem is a labor shortage.

Yeah but what was before the boom lol. Between the end of the 80s and the last few years, absolutely didley squat happened in WA.

Muse
May 24th, 2007, 12:17 PM
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/3425/riverside2eaglest480quexl0.jpg

There is 480 queen addedGreat stuff Malt-teaser!

Now for your real Royal Command Performance, do you think you could get Empire and Vision in as well in the background from that perspective?

If all the new talls eventually go ahead, there will be no other skyline in the world like Brisbane's....truly. It will be jam-packed.

The one exception in my view is Riparian , I absolutely hate it . It should be called RIPE DURIAN cause its design stinks.:lol: That is very clever Your Lordship (Personally I don't mind RIP-it-to-shreads-AGAIN).

...

Danubis
May 24th, 2007, 01:09 PM
Three things. Firstly, you will find that Brisbane has a history of converting nearly every proposal. There are only a few that spring to mind that haven't proceeded - one being Emerald which has been dogged by heritage/town planning problems and is bogged down in court.

no, brisbane has a history of projects falling through... just look at the first page of the 'all buildings list' for brisbane on emporis. half are proposals that have fallen through... then look at the first page of any other city in oz... most only have a few never completed.

Bullswool
May 24th, 2007, 01:14 PM
^^Aaah don't be all negative there danubis lol. Perth probably has more fall-throughs than successes.

Danubis
May 24th, 2007, 01:23 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/danubiis/crap.jpg

Bullswool
May 24th, 2007, 01:43 PM
jesus you guys had a 445m tower proposed in 1989, that is unbelievable. Maybe its Australia in general that have complete nutters who come up with crazy proposals that never happen :(

Wezza
May 24th, 2007, 01:56 PM
^^
I remember when it was first proposed, they actually began excavating the site & all. We came soooo close to getting that tower.

Danubis
May 24th, 2007, 02:34 PM
the lay the foundations too didnt they? where mincom is now... they could still build a tallie there down the track maybe? :)

Bronteboy
May 24th, 2007, 03:25 PM
The thing is, if you look at the Queensland project threads now, it has all the excitement and energy that was flowing through Melbourne a couple of years ago. Vision will cement the reality of it all, and Soul on the Gold Coast - but be warned from Eureka experience, the actual wait for a core to appear will be agonizing. After that, every other one that starts will be a bonus. There are obviously going to be some bonuses, Empire Square, 480 Queen, Meriton, I think to name a few, and it's will all be fun, fun, fun from there...

Melbourne is filling up with cranes again after the post-Eureka-FWP haitus, but the fact is we have no really tall building still rising at the moment. Neo (128m) has topped out, there are a couple of 120-122m complexes rising on Bourke and William Streets, a scattering of 100m+ fillers soon to start.

The kick in Melbourne at the moment is the spread of big
but medium rise projects - the $1bn Melbourne Convention Centre, the 11-story ANZ world headquarters on the Yarra, Australia's largest office building - and a range of innovative 'specials' : the Recital Hall, the classy glass trio to lift Flinders Street at Northbank, clusters reaching out through Southbank towards South Melbourne, and along St Kilda Road.

As for talls, the endless wait in Melbourne is still on for announcements on Prima (226m) and Cos on Lt Bourke (200m), but neither feels particularly imminent: the next wave of excitement here will be when plans appear for the Spencer Street power station and CUB sites. They will both be BIG, multi-tower jobs, if not much more than 200m in height, but will certainly carry us on, and there could be some surprises sprung on us at either. Docklands too.

Sydney seems to me to have basically been in holding pattern for a long while. For talls, I think they just have Aspect (133m) still going up in the CBD, and waiting on 33 Bligh (219m to spire) and 163 Castlereagh Street (188m) to start, with a big kick to come out of town to come with the Chatswood Interchange towers (155m and 168m to spire). They will be striking as a sub-CBD, but central Sydney is waiting for some exciting designs to come out of the multi-tower Barangaroo precinct. So long awaited, so far it hasn't really captured the imagination.

I know Brisbane was holding out hopes for a super tall, but boy - six towers well, well over 200m and a couple more close to that on the starting blocks, and mostly great green designs. The next five years there are going to be something to see.

tic
May 25th, 2007, 01:45 AM
no, brisbane has a history of projects falling through... just look at the first page of the 'all buildings list' for brisbane on emporis. half are proposals that have fallen through... then look at the first page of any other city in oz... most only have a few never completed.

I was talking about recent history. Many of those examples from Emporis are quite old.

KJBrissy
May 25th, 2007, 01:47 AM
I wouldn't say many, think the Domain, the new Suncorp Metway Tower, Emerald is there.

Although the reasons many of them fell through are for reasons that don't exists in the current climate.

Maroon Grown
May 27th, 2007, 09:12 AM
but be warned from Eureka experience, the actual wait for a core to appear will be agonizing.



look how long vision has taken. it has been over 2 years now and theyve only just begun demolition. wait about 12 months to excavate, then we might start to see a core pop over street level. we know how you feel.

theres also empire, which no one has heard boo from since it got approved. when thats gonna start, no one knows.

480 queen is approved but no one knows when that will start either.

and then if eagle street ever happens, its years off!

KJBrissy
May 28th, 2007, 12:02 AM
Empire said they will start at the end of the year (around November) when the leases run out of the shops that are currently there.

480 Queen is also waiting for the Red Cross Blood Bank to vacate. The intend to start work also around November and they will be lodging a new and taller DA in July.

Eagle Street DA will be submitted in August, which probably means about November/December. Then anything is possible.

KJBrissy
May 28th, 2007, 05:45 AM
Here's another. A proposal from the Sultan of Brunei:

The Sunday Mail quoted a storey this morning about a potential 6 star hotel of up to 50 storeys to replace the existing Royal on the Park. The current owner (some sultan with stacks of cash) is planning the projecy and is apparently miffed at Devine's attempt on the opposite corner (Carrington 6 stars at 50ish storeys)

Sounds like not a bad idea to group a nmber of flash hotels facing the botanic gardens however I am unsure how either of these proposals at the stated heights will get through council re shadowing issues.

Still, just adds to the boom!

So in the last 2 weeks we've had this, the Eagle Street twins, Riverside stage 2, Meriton!!!

Thats about 1050m worth of buildings in 2 weeks :eek:

Fabian
May 28th, 2007, 09:28 AM
no, brisbane has a history of projects falling through... just look at the first page of the 'all buildings list' for brisbane on emporis. half are proposals that have fallen through... then look at the first page of any other city in oz... most only have a few never completed.

Sydney has had as many buildings fall through. Every city has them.

I have full confidence that Brisbane will support this wave of development. Good economic conditions and strong growth in commerce and strong population growth. The demand is there :)

Be positive. It's good times for Brisbane!!!! Enjoy it :cheers:

Wezza
May 28th, 2007, 11:25 AM
Yes, is nice, many sexy time ahead.....high five!! :)

BrizzyChris
May 28th, 2007, 12:50 PM
I like you.

WestEnderBender
May 30th, 2007, 08:19 AM
^^ Who do you like? :lol:

Wezza
May 30th, 2007, 10:54 AM
He like er me...... He tight, like this.... :lol:

Anyways, sorry. When can we expect to see a render for the Park Royal? I'm thinking it may be a while off yet.

Brissy_Lad
May 31st, 2007, 05:04 AM
the lay the foundations too didnt they? where mincom is now... they could still build a tallie there down the track maybe? :)

From my understanding the 100+ tower was resurected in the late nineties only to die again, not long after that Mincom was built and everyone shook their heads :ohno: ...

Fabian
May 31st, 2007, 11:59 AM
Sydney seems to me to have basically been in holding pattern for a long while. For talls, I think they just have Aspect (133m) still going up in the CBD, and waiting on 33 Bligh (219m to spire) and 163 Castlereagh Street (188m) to start, with a big kick to come out of town to come with the Chatswood Interchange towers (155m and 168m to spire). They will be striking as a sub-CBD, but central Sydney is waiting for some exciting designs to come out of the multi-tower Barangaroo precinct. So long awaited, so far it hasn't really captured the imagination.



We also have the CUB redevelopment which will add another 15 scrapers to Sydney's count but a number of buildings are having major refurbishments including 77 King and 115 Pitt St, due to strong demand for A Grade and Strata space.

rirwi4
June 6th, 2007, 09:53 AM
Here's another. A proposal from the Sultan of Brunei:



So in the last 2 weeks we've had this, the Eagle Street twins, Riverside stage 2, Meriton!!!

Thats about 1050m worth of buildings in 2 weeks :eek:We need as many hotels we can get! The current vacancy rates are ridiculous! I like the idea of 6 star hotels in brissie, it gives me a feeling of pride when famous ppl come, just like saying we have hotel's suitable for them to stay here with! Bring on the new hotels! bring on construction of everything! GO THE BRISSIE BOOM!!!!!!! CAN'T WAIT FOR 5 YEARS!!!!!
rirwi4

Brissy_Lad
June 7th, 2007, 04:37 AM
State gov't and Councils should be working hard to make sure these go ahead, jobs jobs jobs, and the higher class hotels will also bring top chefs and restaurants - bring it on...

rirwi4
June 7th, 2007, 12:44 PM
^^ Yep, Brissy can't let the hotels fall through! We need them big time, and we need them now, otherwise tourism in Brisbane can't go anywhere, were almost at capacity now:ohno: , we can't wait any longer!

KJBrissy
June 23rd, 2007, 06:00 AM
For all those wondering where the demand was for all the CBD resi towers going up:

CBD apartment glut? Wrong!
Daniel Sankey | June 23, 2007 - 12:00AM (http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/news/queensland/cbd-apartment-glut-wrong/2007/06/22/1182019357888.html)

Twelve months ago experts said the CBD would become oversaturated with apartments that developers would struggle to sell, but it appears they were wrong.

During the March quarter 165 properties were sold in the city more than any other Brisbane suburb, according to available data.

While the figure is certainly impressive, it may be even higher off-the-plan sales that are yet to settle aren't included in the number.

REIQ managing director Dan Molloy said the city's stellar performance looks set to continue.

"The property industry has forecast market conditions very well," Mr Molloy said.

In the past five years the median sale price for CBD units and townhouses has increased by 33.7 per cent, according to the REIQ.

Since 2002 the city has welcomed almost 30 new residential apartment buildings, with many more on the way.

Last year the 69 level Aurora development opened with all the fanfare one would expect of the city's tallest building.

Also hitting the scene last year was Festival Tower at 42 levels, and early this year saw the opening of Charlotte Tower at 44 levels.

Later in the year the Skyline development will open at 47 levels, while the Evolution apartment building is set to open next year at 37 levels.

But topping them all is Vision a monster 79 level wonder that will become the city's tallest building, and Australia's third tallest.

Work has begun on the inner-city site, with completion marked for 2010.

Last year property analysts warned of a possible over-supply of CBD apartments because of increased development.

But Mr Molloy said those fears had been well-and-truly quashed.

"The chances of oversupply of high-rise CBD residential developments in the Brisbane market are diminished, if not extinguished, by virtue of the current high demand and low supply in the commercial sector," he said.

Residential developments were continuing to respond well to the market, with a number of lifestyle projects being development in urban renewal areas close to the city, he said.

Inner city suburbs have also experienced healthy growth during the last five year period, with Kangaroo Point recording a 71.9 per cent median price increase.

Fortitude Valley recorded a 35.6 per cent median increase over five years, while Spring Hill recorded a 31.1 per cent rise.

SoulvisionQ1
August 29th, 2007, 12:36 PM
Australia, meet Brisbane's newest Westin Hotel tower: Empire Square

http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m173/soulvisionQ2/EPS2.jpg
http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m173/soulvisionQ2/EPS1.jpg
http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m173/soulvisionQ2/WestinempireSB.jpg
http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m173/soulvisionQ2/WestinEmpire.jpg
http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m173/soulvisionQ2/WestinEmpire2.jpg
http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m173/soulvisionQ2/elevation.jpg
http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m173/soulvisionQ2/Cityscape.jpg

Mid tower - front
http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m173/soulvisionQ2/Midlevelsempire.jpg

mid tower - rear
http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m173/soulvisionQ2/Midlevelsempire2reer.jpg

KJBrissy
August 29th, 2007, 12:41 PM
Check out this page on Emporis now!!!!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/danubiis/crap.jpg

Qantas743
August 29th, 2007, 01:44 PM
I'm very impressed with this tower!

crawf
August 29th, 2007, 04:51 PM
nice stuff

NCC1701D
August 30th, 2007, 02:02 AM
CBD tower sale may set record
Georgina Robinson | August 30, 2007

The most lucrative property transaction in Australian history is tipped to take place in Brisbane's CBD when nearly 85,000 square metres of commercial office space goes on the market today.

QIC is selling its three-tower Central Plaza complex, located in the city's so-called "golden triangle" of prime commercial real estate.

The sale is expected to surpass an $897 million Sydney CBD portfolio sale in 2006 to become the largest property transaction ever in the country.

The buildings are fully leased even though the 11,500 sqm third tower is still under construction and will not come online until November next year.

In Brisbane's tighter-than-tight property market - vacancies have sunk to another record low of 1.2 per cent - the sale is expected to attracted a premium price and a substantial amount of overseas interest.

The 45-level Central Plaza One is currently home to Macquarie Bank, AAMI, St George Bank, the Australian Taxation Office and law firm Freehills.

Its sister tower Central Plaza Two is 29 storeys and houses QIC and law firms McCullough Robertson and Cooper Grace Ward.

QIC bought the three properties in 1989 and 2004 for a combined total of $314 million.

Global Real Estate chief Laurie Brindle said the decision to sell was strategic.

"The continuing strong conditions in Brisbane's office market have triggered significant growth in QIC's exposure to Brisbane through its existing projects and those under development," Mr Brindle said.

"As a consequence, in order to achieve targeted diversification we now need to adjust our Brisbane investment weighting within the QIC Office Property Fund."

QIC is one of the largest wholesale funds managers in Australia with more than $60 billion under management for domestic and international clients.

Mr Brindle said the company would continue to invest in Queensland and Brisbane.
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/news/queensland/cbd-tower-sale-may-break-record/2007/08/30/1188067219558.html

Wezza
August 30th, 2007, 02:04 AM
Wow, that's a nice little return for their investment!

KJBrissy
August 30th, 2007, 12:16 PM
9 of Brisbane's top 20 towers are either proposed, approved or U/C, and 15 in the top 40, and 20 in the top 60!

Amazing!!!!

piolo
September 1st, 2007, 11:19 PM
Damn , more Q1 inspired buildings :bash:

KJBrissy
September 2nd, 2007, 12:33 AM
Which one???

SoulvisionQ1
September 3rd, 2007, 07:33 AM
As posted on SSL and SSC Queensland, this could be a very interesting project. :)

Fi9aVJRB6vY

Qantas743
September 3rd, 2007, 09:41 AM
Looks like another two 250m+ buildings for Brisbane! Just a regular day!

BrizzyChris
September 3rd, 2007, 01:07 PM
I doubt it, these will only be around 100m - 150m.

KJBrissy
September 12th, 2007, 09:56 AM
Just imagine the cranes in the CBD in the middle of next year with the following projects:

1. Trinity Tower,
2. DB RREEF Tower,
3. The Q centre,
4. Riverside Centre II,
5. Broadway Tower,
6. 31 Adelaide Street,
7. Macrossan Apartments,
8. Empire Square,
9. 480 Queen St
10. Caxton St Barracks Redevelopment,
11. SW1
12. Brisbane Central,
13. Central Plaza 3,
14. The Elizabeth Hotel,
15. 53 Albert Street,
16. 333 Ann St,
17. Suncorp Tower & Suncorp Plaza refurb,
18. Matisse Tower,
19. 400 George St,
20. Northbridge Tower,
21. Northbank Plaza,
22. Icon Place,
23. 145 Ann Street, and
24. Vision.


And that's the CBD only!! We could have 40 cranes or more in the CBD at the one time!

JayT
September 13th, 2007, 05:31 AM
Just imagine the cranes in the CBD in the middle of next year with the following projects:

1. Trinity Tower,
2. DB RREEF Tower,
3. The Q centre,
4. Riverside Centre II,
5. Broadway Tower,
6. 31 Adelaide Street,
7. Macrossan Apartments,
8. Empire Square,
9. 480 Queen St
10. Caxton St Barracks Redevelopment,
11. SW1
12. Brisbane Central,
13. Central Plaza 3,
14. The Elizabeth Hotel,
15. 53 Albert Street,
16. 333 Ann St,
17. Suncorp Tower & Suncorp Plaza refurb,
18. Matisse Tower,
19. 400 George St,
20. Northbridge Tower,
21. Northbank Plaza,
22. Icon Place,
23. 145 Ann Street, and
24. Vision.


And that's the CBD only!! We could have 40 cranes or more in the CBD at the one time!

Add to that all the towers going up in inner fringe areas like:
Toowong,
Coronation Drive,
Kelvin Grove,
Fortitude Valley,
Newstead,
Hamilton,
Albion,
South Brisbane,
Spring Hill,
West End, and
Wolloongabba

Its only then you realise the scope of all this development.


Amazing!
j

Fabian
September 13th, 2007, 08:44 AM
This boom will be remisicent of the scraper boom that Sydney had 10 years ago in the lead up to the Olympics :) It will be an amazing sight to see the cranes on the skyline.

CULWULLA
September 13th, 2007, 02:35 PM
yes , i remember with the co8ncil model i had 40 skyscrapers coloured RED. it was an awesome time in 1999.
Brisbane sounds like its time has come. forget the boom of 2004-6. the 2008-11 will be mind boggling. will completely transform the skyline into a tall, dense modern skyline.

zach24
September 13th, 2007, 03:55 PM
^ sure will
Will be exciting to see the finished product.
However, I hope Brisbane avoids the same mistakes (read: Devine) in the past boom.

Muse
September 14th, 2007, 02:26 AM
Speaking of, Devine announced yesterday it will be developing 145 Ann St, now known as "Westminster Hall".

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=403245&page=38

JayT
September 14th, 2007, 02:29 AM
Prime site today indicates that there is about 700,000m2 of office space to come online in the short term - thats just in Brisbane CBD. There could be a short term glut but with the office takeup rate it won't last long.

CBD fringe is another story. I know that in Fortitude Valley alone there estimating between 6,000 and 10,000 new office workers will move into the area in the next few years - which equates to between 100,000 and 180,000 square metres of new office space.

I know South Brisbane is also booming but have no idea of what is going up apart from what is on Grey Street.
J

shaggers_jr
September 14th, 2007, 02:30 AM
As posted on SSL and SSC Queensland, this could be a very interesting project. :)

Fi9aVJRB6vY

I love the bit of your mum or whoever shouting in the background at the end.:lol:

Jase Calvin
September 15th, 2007, 03:51 PM
I love the Westin Hotel/Empire Square.

SoulvisionQ1
September 16th, 2007, 07:20 AM
I love the bit of your mum or whoever shouting in the background at the end.:lol:

Lol yeah.. :ohno:

Here's the proper video

cXWaLn1EN1I

JayT
October 3rd, 2007, 03:30 AM
Has anyone done any future skyline images recently?

j

KJBrissy
October 3rd, 2007, 07:30 AM
5 cranes in this shot:
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h11/KJBrissy/03102007.jpg

Slightly to the right with another crane!!
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h11/KJBrissy/03102007001.jpg

A r c h i
October 3rd, 2007, 07:37 AM
I count six. :colgate:

KJBrissy
October 3rd, 2007, 07:40 AM
^^The crane to the right and above the Ibis is the same crane.

m01lim
October 3rd, 2007, 11:41 PM
Has anyone done any future skyline images recently?

j

Yeah someone please do! (from various angles :) )

Maroon Grown
October 5th, 2007, 11:14 AM
from my office window i can see 4 favcos and 1 hammerhead. just out of view is another 2 favcos. very busy atm in brissy. walking down george st btwn queen and tank street is very interesting atm.

KJBrissy
October 21st, 2007, 02:42 AM
Here is a quick map I did showing where the projects that are proposed, Approved and U/C are. I've added Eagle Street Twins as they seem very promising. I've left out 549 Queen and it's neighbour as it is a long way off. I've also left of the tower neighbouring the Hilton as it isn't proposed and there are no details about it. MonMary has been left off as the crane is down and the rest is just cosmetic. I've added the King George Square bus station as there are huge amounts of works happening and still to happen there. Enjoy:

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h11/KJBrissy/BrisbaneMap.jpg

WestEnderBender
October 21st, 2007, 06:08 PM
^^ Eagle St Pier is in the wrong place.

KJBrissy
October 21st, 2007, 11:50 PM
edit.

JayT
October 22nd, 2007, 12:42 AM
^^
You forgot the Eagle Street Twins - right next to where it says "Eagle Street" on the map. Just near Market St.

J

KJBrissy
October 22nd, 2007, 01:25 AM
Yeah I got a bit confused. the map has too much of the Brisbane River there. The 2 big red blobs on Eagle Street are meant to be the twins and Riverside 2.

Oops, very quick job. lol

Direwolf
October 22nd, 2007, 10:28 AM
Looks like a quarter of that area is under construction (maybe an exaggeration) is that area the main part of Brisbane's CBD or does it extend further north?

Looks massive in terms of development especially with so many large buildings.

KJBrissy
October 22nd, 2007, 10:32 AM
the northern quater is in the top left hand corner of the CBD. Doesn't look as impressive on this map when you compare it to the rest of Brisbane.

KJBrissy
October 25th, 2007, 03:29 PM
I know it is SEQ and not just Brisbane, but an interesting read nontheless:

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,5717877,00.jpg


Back with Soul and Vision

Fiona Cameron | October 25, 2007 (http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,22642438-25658,00.html)

BUILDER Grocon says construction has started on two Queensland mega-projects - both of which were subject to delays that caused market doubters to question if they would proceed.

Chief executive Daniel Grollo said work was under way on the 77-storey Soul at Surfers Paradise and the 79-storey Vision in Brisbane.

Combined with the $750 million twin-tower Oracle at Broadbeach - which Grocon will build for local developer Niecon - the total end value of Grocon's Queensland work book is about $2.5 billion.

The Melbourne-based builder has signed up for all three developments since March this year, as part of an aggressive and long-term push north.

Grocon's strategic push into Queensland was prompted by the state's fast-growing population, low unemployment and economic growth above the national average for the past decade.

Mr Grollo said Queensland - and Perth - were booming. He likened their growth to Dubai and China "in terms of the vibrance, the activity, the entrepreneurial flair".

Queensland caused him to "get a feeling - that unbridled enthusiasm to go and create something incredible".

"It's the only Western place I get that feeling," he said. "I get it in the Middle East, I get it in India, I get it in China and here, so I think you live in a unique part of the world," he said in Queensland this week.

At Broadbeach, the Oracle's twin towers - of 40 and 50 levels - will offer 500 apartments and are expected to be completed in 2010.

Nearby at Surfers Paradise, on behalf of developer Juniper Group, Grocon had demolished the former Raptis Plaza on Cavill Mall, and the $850 million Soul tower would begin coming out of the ground early next year, Mr Grollo said.

In Brisbane, Grocon has agreed to build the $1.2 billion Vision tower in the CBD for Austcorp. Despite statements from the developer early this year that building had begun, site watchers believe only preliminary civil excavation work has been done so far on the Mary Street site.

Mr Grollo acknowledged this week that Austcorp still had "some final financial matters to deal with" but said Grocon's construction team on the Vision site considered that "it's on, it's happening". Speaking to a Property Council of Australia lunch on the Gold Coast about Vision, Mr Grollo said: "Construction has begun and we are in the ground there - but it's of a different scale. We'll spend 12 months there before we hit the bottom and get the opportunity to turn back up the other way."

Further consolidating its push into Queensland, Grocon in June took a 17.9 per cent equity position in listed Queensland developer CP1 and signed a construction services agreement with the company.

Meanwhile, Mr Grollo said he had no concerns about the prospect of a federal Labor government and did not expect more building site disputes if Kevin Rudd was elected prime minister next month.

Grocon - Australia's largest privately owned development and construction group - had difficult union battles in Victoria in the early 2000s.

But the company believed building unions, particularly in NSW and Queensland, now "have a greater maturity", Mr Grollo said.

Aussie Bhoy
October 25th, 2007, 04:09 PM
I don't like all this "financial matters to deal with" talk about Vision.

I won't relax until Vision gets about 2/3 built.

beastjim
October 26th, 2007, 07:39 AM
It could end up as one of those big holes in the ground for a couple of years. Which is not a good thing.

auslankan
October 29th, 2007, 12:47 AM
Birsbane is surely on fire ATM. Its all good! We need some balance so all our major cities are right up there with the best in the world.

Wezza
October 29th, 2007, 12:36 PM
Wow, you've turned over a new leaf! For once, i agree with what you said.

Orfeo
April 17th, 2008, 04:38 PM
These images produced by Watpac focus on the Newstead Riverfront project in the front, but give an idea of what Brisbane could be like in a few years......the few unlikely or unheard of projects makes up for the lack of a few of the more recently conceptualised ones.....

http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/2559/breaky4us9.jpg

http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/3000/breaky5je7.jpg

http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/7061/breaky6kv6.jpg

http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/4775/breaky7hs5.jpg

http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/1689/breaky8ad4.jpg

KJBrissy
April 17th, 2008, 11:45 PM
Cool stuff. Very dense!

Anberlin
April 17th, 2008, 11:56 PM
Looks like more glass boxes, but yeah. Nice work ;)

dsfenasni
April 18th, 2008, 01:39 PM
man that riverfront looks packed

Fabian
April 19th, 2008, 04:42 AM
Newstead is going to be totally unrecognisable within a few years. looks more like a Satellite CBD.

Wezza
April 19th, 2008, 04:53 AM
Loving those renders! Bring it on.... :)

KJBrissy
April 19th, 2008, 05:08 AM
Newstead is going to be totally unrecognisable within a few years. looks more like a Satellite CBD.

Add that to the satellite CBD (Up to 30/40st) that the Urban Land Development Authority (ULDA) are planning for Bowen Hills. This will include a massive bus rail interchange most probably at Bowen Hills Station with potentially a rapid bus network to connect it up with the Northern Busway!

Great times ahead.

:cheers:

KJBrissy
April 28th, 2008, 11:56 AM
Cranes from Upper Albert Street:

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h11/KJBrissy/27042008008.jpg

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h11/KJBrissy/27042008005.jpg

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h11/KJBrissy/27042008006.jpg

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h11/KJBrissy/27042008004.jpg

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h11/KJBrissy/27042008007.jpg

brisvegas01
May 20th, 2008, 10:03 AM
Looks mad as.

Shumway
May 21st, 2008, 03:06 AM
Has that orange line always been on that Suncorp building? It'd look just fine without it imho...

CULWULLA
May 21st, 2008, 03:31 AM
^its a new additon with recent refurb.

Wezza
May 21st, 2008, 10:45 AM
Has that orange line always been on that Suncorp building? It'd look just fine without it imho...
Yeah i can't say i like it.

CULWULLA
May 21st, 2008, 11:12 AM
hey, has someone down a gold coast projects thread?

3/379
May 21st, 2008, 12:06 PM
apparently a junior electrical technician sketched out in red biro the 'rib and bone' hard wiring technique (accidently as it would seem) onto one of the obviously over paid and under achieving architects' plans - sadly, the rest is history.

KJBrissy
May 22nd, 2008, 01:01 PM
Winning design for the French Quarter (If it is still going to be called that). Thanks to justdigi who says he thinks it's 66 and 60 storeys, which my calculations would make the tallest tower a minimum of 231m to roof:

http://image.bayimg.com/kajfbaabl.jpg

So I cropped the watermark out... :baeh3:

Anberlin
May 22nd, 2008, 01:14 PM
That looks so much better than the older design :D

Wezza
May 22nd, 2008, 01:46 PM
Yep, love those towers! Very Dubai-ish.

tic
May 22nd, 2008, 02:11 PM
That's just orgasmic!!!:cheers:

BrizzyChris
May 22nd, 2008, 03:56 PM
They look cool, but to be honest, a little out of place. But as usual, can't say much till the DA has come through.

chinaussiebabe
May 22nd, 2008, 04:16 PM
WOW, MY GOD :shocked: This is what BrisVegasssss really need!!!
I am actually picturing something in my mind. What if this could be built on a man-made island near the coast on Surfers?? Another 7-star hotel???

CULWULLA
May 23rd, 2008, 12:28 AM
i count 60stoteys in tall tower and 58 in lower?
maybe one is resi and other is office?
i worked out taller tower is about 230m and lower 200m.
bloody great design. really dif for Australia. hope it gets up.

http://image.bayimg.com/kajfbaabl.jpg

JayT
May 23rd, 2008, 12:39 AM
i count 60stoteys in tall tower and 58 in lower?
maybe one is resi and other is office?
i worked out taller tower is about 230m and lower 200m.
bloody great design. really dif for Australia. hope it gets up.

http://image.bayimg.com/kajfbaabl.jpg

HELLO!!!!

Wow - I love it!

J

brizboy
May 23rd, 2008, 04:13 AM
Whoa that is stunning =)

Orfeo
May 23rd, 2008, 07:22 AM
This one is shinnier:

http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/3572/0605308600nn0.jpg

Danubis
May 23rd, 2008, 12:54 PM
um, warning bells??... they have already resorted to cost cutting in the diagram - the buildings are rendered well but they got sloppy and finished the 'beacons' in mspaint.

tic
May 24th, 2008, 12:25 AM
picky.:)

KJBrissy
May 24th, 2008, 04:14 AM
Positive news from the Mayor:


Brisbane to have its own 'twin towers'

Posted Fri May 23, 2008 2:25pm AEST
Updated Fri May 23, 2008 5:29pm AEST (http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/05/23/2253933.htm)

One of Brisbane's biggest developments has taken another step forward.

The $1 billion French Quarter project proposes 'twin towers' to be built opposite the City Botanical Gardens.

Developer David Devine has selected the successful design for the complex, which includes exclusive apartments and a six-star hotel.

"The first tower will be overlooking the gardens and beneath both towers will be 15-metre podium which will be a mix of restaurants, retail and laneways connecting a Parisian type area," he said.

Brisbane's Lord Mayor Campbell Newman has described a proposed development as exciting.

His only concern might be the shadows cast over the gardens.

"There is a potential to cast a shadow and that same issue was looked at when council looked at the development assessment of the Vision Tower which is not far away," he said.

"In the case of Vision, council concluded that the architectural merits were such that the shading issues were acceptable."

TOCC
May 24th, 2008, 09:38 PM
well with global warming, more shade can only be a positive then!

Wezza
May 25th, 2008, 04:31 AM
Lol, i like your way of thinking. :)

richie_81
June 17th, 2008, 04:22 PM
the tallest will be over 300m to the top!

SkyBoy
June 21st, 2008, 03:26 PM
Why worry about the damn shadows? The shadows might actually save the lives of people visiting the botanical gardens from skin cancer.

SkyBoy
June 21st, 2008, 03:27 PM
Why worry about the damn shadows? The shadows might actually save the lives of people visiting the botanical gardens from skin cancer.

MILIUX
June 21st, 2008, 05:42 PM
Why worry about the damn shadows? The shadows might actually save the lives of people visiting the botanical gardens from skin cancer.

Increase in surface area of the city (such as building's walls) would increase the atmosphere temperature of the city. The rays from sun would spread on greater surfaces which will heat it up. Think of the days you felt that heatwave in Brisbane when standing next to concrete walls and on footpaths.

Which is one of the reason why cities are mostly hotter, and not just because of air pollution.

Six rated environment design would address this problem by either using special filters on glasses or allowing natural light penetration.

shaggers_jr
June 23rd, 2008, 03:51 AM
Why worry about the damn shadows? The shadows might actually save the lives of people visiting the botanical gardens from skin cancer.

Well the trees and plants need sunlight, doofus.

Wezza
June 23rd, 2008, 11:31 AM
They should just bloodywell move the sun then! :D

Fabian
June 23rd, 2008, 11:58 AM
It's not going to be the end of the World. Brisbane gets lots of sun year round.

I do hope one of the towers are office, because I can see it being some of most sought out office space in Brisbane.

Mickeebee
June 23rd, 2008, 12:01 PM
They're so beautiful...build them NOW!

SEQ92
June 26th, 2008, 04:03 AM
i count 60stoteys in tall tower and 58 in lower?
maybe one is resi and other is office?
i worked out taller tower is about 230m and lower 200m.
bloody great design. really dif for Australia. hope it gets up.

http://image.bayimg.com/kajfbaabl.jpg

HOLY SHIT

THATS AMAZING

YES PLEASE

CULWULLA
July 23rd, 2008, 11:56 PM
good news and bad news in todays fin rev.
BRISBANE OFFICE MARKET TURNS
summary-
Brisbane office rents will fall 25% over the next year as new commercial space comes on line.
MPS commercial propoerty advisor mr urwin said some commercial towers would not proceed because space was freeing up. he declined to nominate which ones.

thats a bugger, i wonder which towers? what large office projects are approved?

KJBrissy
July 24th, 2008, 12:23 AM
^^That's what they said last time, however some of the towers they said that weren't going ahead are!

We'll just wait and see.

CULWULLA
July 24th, 2008, 12:34 AM
so what big office towers are in pipeline?

KJBrissy
July 24th, 2008, 12:37 AM
Broadway always was shakey, King George Central (used to be called Westminster Hall) should get up, Devine are keen, One One One Eagle should get up as they are demolishing the Indigo tower know, however you can never be too sure and the rest are just the mixed use towers, Vision, Trilogy and Empire.

CULWULLA
July 24th, 2008, 01:29 AM
yeah as i thought, the big 3 (vision,empire and trilogy) are safe. also 111 eagle. westminster should also get up. i dont think id worry about the smaller ones. its all g ood

JayT
July 24th, 2008, 01:40 AM
yeah as i thought, the big 3 (vision,empire and trilogy) are safe. also 111 eagle. westminster should also get up. i dont think id worry about the smaller ones. its all g ood

I'd be more worried about the dozens of smaller towers going up around the inner suburbs - especially Fortitude Valley & South Brisbane.

j

KJBrissy
August 6th, 2008, 10:33 AM
Cranes:

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h11/KJBrissy/06082008007.jpg

Marty_
August 6th, 2008, 04:54 PM
Interestingly, Brisbane really hasn't taken any of the hits predicted by analysts over the past couple years. I was so skeptical at the start of the boom, but every development I questioned has subsequently started, with the exception of the French Quarter (PLLEEASSEE HAPPEN!) I'm really cautiously optimistic now. I think the FQ will go ahead - hopefully with a different name. Neither do I think any major developments will be scrapped at this point.

Go Brisbane.

TOCC
August 6th, 2008, 08:04 PM
Interestingly, Brisbane really hasn't taken any of the hits predicted by analysts over the past couple years. I was so skeptical at the start of the boom, but every development I questioned has subsequently started, with the exception of the French Quarter (PLLEEASSEE HAPPEN!) I'm really cautiously optimistic now. I think the FQ will go ahead - hopefully with a different name. Neither do I think any major developments will be scrapped at this point.

Go Brisbane.

not really taken off?

there are 7 towers over 150m with 4 being over 200m in the early stages of construction with a few other proposals floating around. Its more then any other city in Australia at the moment.

Fabian
August 6th, 2008, 10:32 PM
Brisbane is boom central at the moment. It's been like that for the past few years. You only need to look at KJBrissy's photo above to prove it.

shaggers_jr
August 7th, 2008, 02:24 AM
not really taken off?

there are 7 towers over 150m with 4 being over 200m in the early stages of construction with a few other proposals floating around. Its more then any other city in Australia at the moment.

Man, did you even read what he wrote?

TOCC
August 7th, 2008, 12:08 PM
Man, did you even read what he wrote?

yeah sorry i dont know what i was thinking when i read that

Marty_
August 7th, 2008, 05:57 PM
yeah sorry i dont know what i was thinking when i read that

Haha - that's ok mate. You had me staring cross-eyed at my post, wondering what I had said :nuts: :bash:

Bronteboy
August 8th, 2008, 03:17 AM
so glad to hear that at least three of Brisbane's big projects are going to get underway, including Vision already under construction of course. The impact on the city will amazing.

Marty_
August 8th, 2008, 09:58 AM
I count 4 really big ones... Vision, Trilogy, The Westin, Adelaide St Tower (Meriton).

There's also 111 Eagle St which is pretty big (200m).

So 5 confirmed and started so far :)

Danubis
August 8th, 2008, 10:46 AM
Proposed early 2009 - thinking about building in downstairs of my qlder... will keep you posted, hopefully get render soon.. its all hush hush!

Malt
August 9th, 2008, 11:44 AM
idiot daniel. haha

zach24
August 10th, 2008, 10:20 AM
Interestingly, Brisbane really hasn't taken any of the hits predicted by analysts over the past couple years. I was so skeptical at the start of the boom, but every development I questioned has subsequently started, with the exception of the French Quarter (PLLEEASSEE HAPPEN!) I'm really cautiously optimistic now. I think the FQ will go ahead - hopefully with a different name. Neither do I think any major developments will be scrapped at this point.

Go Brisbane.

Recent incentives for upcoming Brisbane projects indicate a rent decline of -20%. Boom is definitely coming off - expect to see a number of projects canned. It's all part of the cycle.

Trawler
August 10th, 2008, 11:52 AM
Recent incentives for upcoming Brisbane projects indicate a rent decline of -20%. Boom is definitely coming off - expect to see a number of projects canned. It's all part of the cycle.

Is that 20% drop for residential or commercial space? I can understand a drop in commercial rents - three large commercial towers are on the way up right now.

Looking at the construction diagram, I think the only major projects that have been in doubt are Empire Square, the Q Centre and the Broadway tower. Looks like Empire is getting ready to go, but I've not heard much on the other two.

The French Quarter, Eagle St Towers and Meriton 2 aren't even proposals yet so they'll miss this cycle.

At the moment we're watching three ~150m towers go up, and next year we'll be watching four 240m+ towers (Vision, Trinity, Meriton & Empire) and one 190m tower (111 Eagle St) go up at the same time. For Australia, that ain't bad!

Orfeo
August 10th, 2008, 04:35 PM
^
Q center is a comparatively long term project, stage II of the redevelopment of the transit center, with stage I yet to begin. Broadway is a bit more suspect, given that we haven't heard much recently but I'm still hopeful that something will eventually occur.

What Zach is referring to is a report in the Fin Review stated that prime rental rates had dropped 20% from the record maximum, which isn't exactly surprising given the amount under construction. The article also stated that 70% of the 204,000sqm that is to enter the CBD market in '09 is pre-commited, and was overall quite neutral as to where the market would go. There is also variability in the professional property analysts predictions of where the market will go, with MPS Corporate Property Advisory saying further declines while CB Richard Ellis is going for rental growth being on hold.

Things are not necessarily as dark as Zach believes.

KJBrissy
August 12th, 2008, 11:37 AM
All is looking good for many of the projects in 2008.

- Vision's hole is huge now and won't be long before that is complete. Should happen by the end of the year,
- Trilogy is being excavated quickly and probably will have finished excavation by the end of the year,
- Meriton Tower would have started excavation by the end of the year,
- The Macrossan has really gotten in to excavation now and may be finished by the end of the year,
- Empire Square will start demolition by Christmas if Metacap are to be trusted,
- The Indigo building is about half way down to start construction on One One One Eagle Street. Should happen by the end of the year also,
- Excavation has started on the Rio Tinto building at the corner of Charlotte and Albert Streets,
- Brisbane Central is about to get above ground,
- AM60 is rising above ground now,
- Northbridge, 400 George and 275 George are flying up, and
- Hopefully we will see the French Quarter Application and the new tower on Makerston Street if Devine and Meriton are to be trusted.



BRING IT ON!!!!

Fabian
August 12th, 2008, 11:11 PM
Even with tough economic times looming, it will be 3-4 years before many projects are complete so plenty of time for tenants and buyers to take up space. :)

Fabian
December 31st, 2008, 05:47 AM
Trilogy model

http://img357.imageshack.us/img357/1485/dscf6693oy5.jpg

http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/6720/dscf6694kt6.jpg

BNE01
December 31st, 2008, 07:18 AM
All is looking good for many of the projects in 2008.

- Vision's hole is huge now and won't be long before that is complete. Should happen by the end of the year,
- Trilogy is being excavated quickly and probably will have finished excavation by the end of the year,
- Meriton Tower would have started excavation by the end of the year,
- The Macrossan has really gotten in to excavation now and may be finished by the end of the year,
- Empire Square will start demolition by Christmas if Metacap are to be trusted,
- The Indigo building is about half way down to start construction on One One One Eagle Street. Should happen by the end of the year also,
- Excavation has started on the Rio Tinto building at the corner of Charlotte and Albert Streets,
- Brisbane Central is about to get above ground,
- AM60 is rising above ground now,
- Northbridge, 400 George and 275 George are flying up, and
- Hopefully we will see the French Quarter Application and the new tower on Makerston Street if Devine and Meriton are to be trusted.



BRING IT ON!!!!

Any projects that were fully funded and underway before the global financial crises should be fine. Any new projects or ones that were not fully funded could be in trouble. Banks are just not willing to lend at the moment, or are factoring in a large amount of "risk" into any funding.

Of course in 6 months time things could have turned around (especially with the Chinese government's capital expediture "rescue package" being in full swing).

SoulvisionQ1
September 22nd, 2010, 04:34 AM
I'm going to revive this thread because Brisbane's resi market is now picking up again, and not just in the CBD.

The Milton - Brisbane's newest TOD project, not in the CBD (30 Floors)

http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn131/SoulVisionQ3/EyeTVSnapshot1.jpg

http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn131/SoulVisionQ3/EyeTVSnapshot3.jpg

http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn131/SoulVisionQ3/EyeTVSnapshot-1.jpg

http://www.brisbanedevelopment.com/images/stories/Article_Images/Milton_tod/5.jpg

Mclauchlan & Ann - Fortitude Valley (again, not the CBD).

http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn131/SoulVisionQ3/lang2.jpg

http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn131/SoulVisionQ3/MAmodified1.jpg

http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn131/SoulVisionQ3/MAmodified2.jpg

http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn131/SoulVisionQ3/photofulldevelopment.jpg

http://www.brisbanedevelopment.com/images/stories/Article_Images/mac_ann/mclachlan.jpg

Infinity (73 Floors) - CBD

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/3775/hrz2.jpg

Soleil - CBD

http://www.benzrealty.com.au/images/properties/16_1.JPG

Southpoint (~20 Floors) - Southbank
Pic thanks to Marty.
http://i619.photobucket.com/albums/tt280/Dr_Marty/southpoint-1.jpg

Carrington Tower (44 Floors) - CBD

http://www.brisbanedevelopment.com/images/stories/Article_Images/Carrington_Tower/PreviewScreenSnapz007.png

http://www.brisbanedevelopment.com/images/stories/Article_Images/Carrington_Tower/PreviewScreenSnapz012.png

Hamilton Harbour (22 Floors) - Hamilton (not CBD)

http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn131/SoulVisionQ3/20100916191614.jpg

http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn131/SoulVisionQ3/20100618151201.jpg

http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn131/SoulVisionQ3/201009161916141.jpg

Newstead Riverpark - Newstead (not CBD)

http://assets1.mirvacdevelopment.com.au/assets/mJQrH4EmO5wKXYP/external-view-halfres.jpg

Mosaic (20 Floors) - Fortitude Valley

http://brisbanedevelopment.com/images/stories/Article_Images/Mosaic/PreviewScreenSnapz006.jpg

Watpac Twins (~30 Floors) - Fortitude Valley

http://www.brisbanedevelopment.com/images/stories/Article_Images/Watpac_valley/PreviewScreenSnapz010.jpg

http://www.brisbanedevelopment.com/images/stories/Article_Images/Watpac_valley/PreviewScreenSnapz014.jpg

http://www.brisbanedevelopment.com/images/stories/Article_Images/Watpac_valley/PreviewScreenSnapz012.jpg

Will737
September 22nd, 2010, 05:19 AM
Is it just me or does Carrington Tower look a bit like a rip off of the early Prima designs for Melbourne?

melbournee12
September 22nd, 2010, 05:41 AM
^ My thoughts exactly.

swifty78
September 23rd, 2010, 12:33 AM
I like Carrington regardless as it will take the focus off all the concrete boxes behind it.

BrizzyChris
September 24th, 2010, 02:27 AM
Is it just me or does Carrington Tower look a bit like a rip off of the early Prima designs for Melbourne?

Definitely looks similar...but is that a bad thing for a good design?

Will737
September 24th, 2010, 02:45 AM
Definitely looks similar...but is that a bad thing for a good design?
I didn't say it looked crap, just similar.

linum
October 5th, 2010, 10:53 PM
When Soleil, Infinity and 111 Eagle Street are completed ... 2012 ... the BNE skyline will start to look much more impressive!

matty89
October 6th, 2010, 09:28 AM
Carrington??? Is this new or what? When's the start date and completion date?

Marty_
October 6th, 2010, 09:51 AM
Where have you been? It's a recent Sunland proposal. Not yet approved.

linum
October 6th, 2010, 11:30 PM
I'm going to revive this thread because Brisbane's resi market is now picking up again, and not just in the CBD.

The Milton - Brisbane's newest TOD project, not in the CBD (30 Floors)

http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn131/SoulVisionQ3/EyeTVSnapshot1.jpg

http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn131/SoulVisionQ3/EyeTVSnapshot3.jpg

http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn131/SoulVisionQ3/EyeTVSnapshot-1.jpg

http://www.brisbanedevelopment.com/images/stories/Article_Images/Milton_tod/5.jpg

Mclauchlan & Ann - Fortitude Valley (again, not the CBD).

http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn131/SoulVisionQ3/lang2.jpg

http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn131/SoulVisionQ3/MAmodified1.jpg

http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn131/SoulVisionQ3/MAmodified2.jpg

http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn131/SoulVisionQ3/photofulldevelopment.jpg

http://www.brisbanedevelopment.com/images/stories/Article_Images/mac_ann/mclachlan.jpg

Infinity (73 Floors) - CBD

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/3775/hrz2.jpg

Soleil - CBD

http://www.benzrealty.com.au/images/properties/16_1.JPG

Southpoint (~20 Floors) - Southbank
Pic thanks to Marty.
http://i619.photobucket.com/albums/tt280/Dr_Marty/southpoint-1.jpg

Carrington Tower (44 Floors) - CBD

http://www.brisbanedevelopment.com/images/stories/Article_Images/Carrington_Tower/PreviewScreenSnapz007.png

http://www.brisbanedevelopment.com/images/stories/Article_Images/Carrington_Tower/PreviewScreenSnapz012.png

Hamilton Harbour (22 Floors) - Hamilton (not CBD)

http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn131/SoulVisionQ3/20100916191614.jpg

http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn131/SoulVisionQ3/20100618151201.jpg

http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn131/SoulVisionQ3/201009161916141.jpg

Newstead Riverpark - Newstead (not CBD)

http://assets1.mirvacdevelopment.com.au/assets/mJQrH4EmO5wKXYP/external-view-halfres.jpg

Mosaic (20 Floors) - Fortitude Valley

http://brisbanedevelopment.com/images/stories/Article_Images/Mosaic/PreviewScreenSnapz006.jpg

Watpac Twins (~30 Floors) - Fortitude Valley

http://www.brisbanedevelopment.com/images/stories/Article_Images/Watpac_valley/PreviewScreenSnapz010.jpg

http://www.brisbanedevelopment.com/images/stories/Article_Images/Watpac_valley/PreviewScreenSnapz014.jpg

http://www.brisbanedevelopment.com/images/stories/Article_Images/Watpac_valley/PreviewScreenSnapz012.jpg

The Watpac Twins will add some height to Fortitude Valley ... I hope they go ahead!

Eastern37
October 7th, 2010, 12:52 PM
^^ did you really need to quote the whole post just to say that? :bash:

Marty_
October 7th, 2010, 01:33 PM
This is by no means certain, but I have heard down the grapevine that the Watpac twins are not happening.

Mickeebee
October 8th, 2010, 01:46 AM
/\/\ Heard the same thing here on Monday.

tic
October 8th, 2010, 02:12 AM
I'm not surprised at all by this. The project was ambitious even at the height of the boom. It would be a decade away now, I would think.

Marty_
October 8th, 2010, 04:40 AM
I'm not sure that they are all that unrealistic. Sales in the Valley and Bowen Hills are very good right now, with basically all projects getting good sales. I think there is real demand in that area... The towers are quite ideally positioned to capture an emerging market.

Oh well. It is what it is.

In other news, Grocon are purchasing two Brisbane sites - Trilogy (265m) and The Westin (240m).

Aussie Bhoy
October 8th, 2010, 04:52 AM
I wonder is it better to have an apartment in a city high rise, or an apartment on the fringe of the city, with a nice view of the CBD?

BearCave
October 8th, 2010, 05:14 AM
^^
The first one is good for singles, the second one is good for couples.

linum
October 9th, 2010, 04:22 AM
If I ever lived in Brisbane again I'd buy an apartment downtown ... I like Infinity because of it's (when built) proximity to GoMA and the cultural precinct of South Brisbane ...

SoulvisionQ1
September 10th, 2011, 03:18 PM
This is Brisbane's largest urban renewal project since Southbank... absolutely massive!!

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JayT
September 12th, 2011, 05:18 AM
I had no idea about this thread !!

The showgrounds redevelopment looks very Kelvin Grove or Hamilton in style.

Just a note - a few other things happening in our fair city - doesn't include the CBD.

Just thought I'd do a run-down of the suburban developments throughout Brisbane. Where I have included links there are usually some pics available.

This is a work in progress and I'll be adding as they come. Feel free to add your own pics and info. :)

I would really like to thank everyone who contributed images over the last few years which are being used in this thread.



HAMILTON


Rivana, Hamilton - 15 Stories - Proposed
By Citimark
http://www.theurbandeveloper.com/2011/04/12/citimark-set-to-launch-rivana-hamilton/
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Hercules Street - 23 Stories - Proposed
Mirvac
582 Apartments
4 buildings
- 23 stories
- 18 stories
- 8 stories
- Retail


http://www.theurbandeveloper.com/2011/04/12/mirvac-lodge-application-with-ulda-for-582-apartments-in-northshore-hamilton/

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Hamilton Harbour - up to 22st/mixed - U/C

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4046/4654104007_e70a41778f_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/13811754@N04/4654104007)

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4039/4654094477_507bccc05b_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/13811754@N04/4654094477)
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=478529


MILTON

The Milton - 30st/102m/residential www.themilton.com.au

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(Thanks to SoulvisionQ1 for the Youtube clips)
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=235820&page=15
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4004/4574662134_be7c365096_b.jpg

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FORTITUDE VALLEY

435 St Pauls Terrace – 2x 31st/100m/res

http://i45.tinypic.com/2zzqb0z.jpg

http://i48.tinypic.com/qwx5vt.jpg

http://i45.tinypic.com/dyp0jr.jpg
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1047663

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Cnr Brook & Ann 15st proposed
http://resources1.news.com.au/images/2011/08/04/1226108/152361-brooklyn-on-brookes.jpg

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959 Ann Street - Proposed - 13 Stories
http://images.brisbanetimes.com.au/2011/05/13/2360751/Perry-420x0.jpg

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=673974&page=2
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Mosaic - 20st/72m/mixed - Approved
http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/4272/church1.jpg (http://img213.imageshack.us/i/church1.jpg/)http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/church1.jpg/1/w947.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img213/church1.jpg/1/)


http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=913386
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Waterloo Junction - Up to 16 stories - U/C
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/2122/10271057bi4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/448/13755486sy4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=780008

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100 McLachlan Street - 23st/77.7m, 13st/54m & 9st/28m (mixed use) U/C

http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/4015/lang1.jpg (http://img176.imageshack.us/i/lang1.jpg/)http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/lang1.jpg/1/w1024.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img176/lang1.jpg/1/)

http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/5649/lang2.jpg (http://img230.imageshack.us/i/lang2.jpg/)http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/lang2.jpg/1/w915.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img230/lang2.jpg/1/)

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/2791/lang3.jpg (http://img508.imageshack.us/i/lang3.jpg/)http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/lang3.jpg/1/w790.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img508/lang3.jpg/1/)
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=962238





SOUTH BRISBANE
Queensland Childrens Hospital 12 st - U/C

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=758864

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Southpoint - 20st/mixed
http://resources1.news.com.au/images/2010/12/14/1225971/162829-southpoint.jpg

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=546487&page=15
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Pradella Developments Pty Ltd (Primary Applicant)
41 BOUNDARY ST SOUTH BRISBANE QLD 4101

Application number: A003121478

http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/9118/32940992.jpg
http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/3261/54078419.jpg
http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/4666/71680406.jpg
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/315/90595421.jpg
http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/2728/25672876.jpg


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2 EDMONDSTONE ST SOUTH BRISBANE QLD 4101
4 EDMONDSTONE ST SOUTH BRISBANE QLD 4101


Application number: A003131140
Aria Property Group (Primary Applicant)



http://img830.imageshack.us/img830/2665/91345208.jpg

BOWEN HILLS

ULDA Precinct
http://madisonheightsbowenhills.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/header-projectOverview_city.jpg

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1287993&page=2
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MADISON HEIGHTS - Metro Properties - 31st - Approved
http://madisonheightsbowenhills.com.au/index.php/home/
http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/813/campbellandmayne2.jpg

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/3673/campbellandmayne1.jpg

http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/5642/campbellandmayne3.jpg

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37 Mayne Rd - 28st Proposed
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/5750/metrotower2.jpg

http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/5886/metrotower.jpg
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Chelsea - U/C

http://images1.au.reastatic.net/800x600/props/106966354/Main@20Feature/20101104170949.jpg

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WOOLLONGABBA
320-324 VULTURE STREET, WOOLLONGABBA
20 Stories. Residential

http://img576.imageshack.us/img576/4716/24020302.jpg
http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/1319/47897259.jpg
http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/5821/68194617.jpg
http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/2981/55455457.jpg
http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/5339/98026780.jpg
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=589725
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55 Boundary Street - 18st/64m(?) and 10st/36m(?)/Mixed Use

http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn131/SoulVisionQ3/1-2.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn131/SoulVisionQ3/2-5.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn131/SoulVisionQ3/3-5.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn131/SoulVisionQ3/4-5.jpg

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Gabba One - 20st/70m/mixed use
http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/5794/gabaone1.jpg (http://img341.imageshack.us/i/gabaone1.jpg/)http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/gabaone1.jpg/1/w730.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img341/gabaone1.jpg/1/)

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825 Stanley Street - Proposed?

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/9073/825stan.jpg (http://img15.imageshack.us/i/825stan.jpg/)


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Proposed: Chalk Hotel Redevelopment - 30st/102m, 25st and 20st Residential





They just keep coming! :cheers:


KELVIN GROVE

Proposed: 31 Musk Avenue - 16st/60m/mixed‎ use
http://i619.photobucket.com/albums/tt280/Dr_Marty/Musk_1.jpg
http://i619.photobucket.com/albums/tt280/Dr_Marty/Musk_2.jpg
http://i619.photobucket.com/albums/tt280/Dr_Marty/Musk_3.jpg
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1055055

NEWSTEAD

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=609329&page=8

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Park 16 St - Mirvac?? U/C (I think)
http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/963/parkx.jpg

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Joule Office - 19st - Proposed
http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/4589/breaky1jg0.jpg

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Parkside Boulevard 1 - 25st/91.6m/Res -Proposed
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn131/SoulVisionQ3/PreviewScreenSnapz002copy.jpg

http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn131/SoulVisionQ3/SafariScreenSnapz003copy.jpg

http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn131/SoulVisionQ3/SafariScreenSnapz002copy.jpg
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=848748
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SoulvisionQ1
September 12th, 2011, 10:16 AM
New RNA Redevelopment:

http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn131/SoulVisionQ3/RNA-Aerial-HighRes-_RevE_site-highlighted_cropped_low.jpg

New 9 floor office: Valley

http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn131/SoulVisionQ3/Screenshot2011-09-12at61157PM.pnghttp://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn131/SoulVisionQ3/Screenshot2011-09-12at61213PM.png

New FKP resi - Albion.

http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn131/SoulVisionQ3/Screenshot2011-09-12at53750PM.png

http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn131/SoulVisionQ3/Screenshot2011-09-12at53813PM.png

http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn131/SoulVisionQ3/Screenshot2011-09-12at53829PM.png

http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn131/SoulVisionQ3/Screenshot2011-09-12at53841PM.png

Erektion
September 12th, 2011, 10:27 AM
I really like Waterloo Junction. Very cool!

swifty78
September 12th, 2011, 12:09 PM
A whole page of mostly boring and mediocre designs....

KJBrissy
September 12th, 2011, 12:17 PM
To be fair though, cities are made up of mostly boring and mediocre designs. IMO it is a pumping ground level + a couple of stunners that is the best outcome.

SoulVision, is the Albion FKP development the Flour Mill site next to the station? The Hudson?

Jesse24
September 12th, 2011, 12:37 PM
It looks like the corner of Hudson Road and Albion Overpass so I guess it is as that is FKP land.