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lebgurl February 4th, 2007, 05:06 AM I dunno how accurate this is, but I thought it was interesting
source: http://www.sq.4mg.com/NationIQ.htm
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This list was developed by Van Sloan in consultation with James Sheehan, chairman of Stanford's history department.
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http://www.sq.4mg.com/corrupt.htm <-- a chart with corruption index score, GDP and Average IQ.
lebgurl February 4th, 2007, 05:10 AM O I forgot to add, if you went to the site and clicked on the "Israel" link, this is wat you get
1. Jewish IQ (from http://users.tpg.com.au/jonjayra/geneiq.html)
I have had an interesting correspondence with Richard Lynn about Israeli IQ. He notes that Israelis of European origin (Ashkenazim) have an average IQ of about the European norm (100) whereas Israelis from the Arab lands (Sephardim) have the quite low average IQ of 88.
What does that say about Arab IQ? Seeing that those Jews who are racially mainly Arab ought to be at least no less intelligent than the parent Arab population, it suggests to me that Arabs in general are pretty low on intelligence.
yea it's pretty funny
Hassoun February 4th, 2007, 05:11 AM Interesting ^^
Thanx for sharing :)
Hassoun February 4th, 2007, 05:11 AM and yes,pretty funny :D
grzes February 4th, 2007, 06:20 AM I take the comment about Arab intelligence with a grain of salt because I'm laughing just as hard at the Polish IQ being so high.... the younger generation certainly doesn't show it :lol: All personal bias aside, I was expecting the IQ from the Arab countries to be higher than what they are, especially the Lebanese IQ, although I can finally brag about Phoenicia being older than the Greeks :D Thanks lebgurl :hug:
lebgurl February 4th, 2007, 06:55 AM ^^ sure .. im thinking i should move back to the arab countries since I have an IQ of 148 and convince them that I am someone really important .. and just have them b my slaves .. after all they are stupid enough for it.
Hassoun February 4th, 2007, 07:08 AM :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Jayme February 4th, 2007, 07:24 AM does anyone know what there own IQ is ?
Herzeleid February 4th, 2007, 07:26 AM whereas Israelis from the Arab lands (Sephardim) have the quite low average IQ of 88.
hummm sefardim are from european origin also, u know from the spanish peninsula, i think what u are trying to say are mizrahim jews, those are the ones with arab origin
lebgurl February 4th, 2007, 07:41 AM ^^ lol I dunno it was a pretty messed up site over all .. i found that passage after I had created this thread
and yea Jayme I know mine
Giladist February 4th, 2007, 03:20 PM does anyone know what there own IQ is ?
I know mine, and as a Mizrahi Jew I kind of break the statistics :lol:
I found another source where Ashkenazi Israelis get 105, Sefaradim/Mizrahim average 91, Israeli arabs 85 (cited as ME average).
Another finding says that it is very education dependent since when Ashkenazi and Mizrahi Jews are both raised in a Kibbutz, they found that both had an average IQ of 115.
This means only one thing - education and culture of education influence intelligence...
Well, I'm going to study now, I have an exam tomorrow :ohno:
lebgurl February 4th, 2007, 11:09 PM ^^ good luck on ur test
and yes its all based on health, education, nutrition and nurturing ..
Beiruti February 5th, 2007, 08:57 PM So Lebanon is the smartest Arab country... I guess we can celebrate that!
Bikes February 5th, 2007, 09:04 PM I'm sorry to burst your bubbles, but this list is the same joke as the The Protocols of the Elders of Zion. This is a RACIST and clearly meaningless list, with nothong to back up the numbers. I thought i would never see this list again. People wake up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hassoun February 5th, 2007, 10:49 PM I guess Bikes is the right,this is so racist.
And Beirut!,According to the list,Iraqi pple have higher IQ than lebanese,so lebanon is second.
Jayme February 5th, 2007, 11:05 PM i wanna know my IQ
Giladist February 5th, 2007, 11:16 PM edit
Giladist February 5th, 2007, 11:24 PM I'm sorry to burst your bubbles, but this list is the same joke as the The Protocols of the Elders of Zion. This is a RACIST and clearly meaningless list, with nothong to back up the numbers. I thought i would never see this list again. People wake up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Do you mean you KNOW this list from somewhere and it's not credible?
I agree it might appear racist but what the hell does it have to do with the Protocols? Look it up in Wikipedia, you'll find similar things.
Giladist February 5th, 2007, 11:49 PM i wanna know my IQ
So take a test:
http://www.highiqsociety.org/iq_tests/
Should be a reliable one, but it's designed for native english speakers so people who aren't might score lower that their real IQ.
Beiruti February 6th, 2007, 12:29 AM I guess Bikes is the right,this is so racist.
And Beirut!,According to the list,Iraqi pple have higher IQ than lebanese,so lebanon is second.
Oh sorry I missed that... okay I agree with Bikes then, its racist!
lebgurl February 6th, 2007, 08:35 PM So take a test:
http://www.highiqsociety.org/iq_tests/
Should be a reliable one, but it's designed for native english speakers so people who aren't might score lower that their real IQ.
IQ tests are no longer reliable ... ESPECIALLY online ones.
If you want a descent estimate of your intelligence at ur age (past the ages of 2-5), then go to a psychologist and have them run tests on u (not worth it). Your school probably gave you some at a young age, so go check those because they're the most reliable ones
Giladist February 6th, 2007, 11:14 PM IQ tests are no longer reliable ... ESPECIALLY online ones.
If you want a descent estimate of your intelligence at ur age (past the ages of 2-5), then go to a psychologist and have them run tests on u (not worth it). Your school probably gave you some at a young age, so go check those because they're the most reliable ones
I said pretty reliable, of course online tests have their disadvantages but I did read somewhere that this one should be quite reliable. Anyway, I
By the way, this is why I didn't tell him to try the tickle.com one, because many people say that they are just trying to get you to buy their reports...
Giladist February 6th, 2007, 11:15 PM Edit
Giladist February 6th, 2007, 11:15 PM damn! this f**king pc posted it 3 times (and i never even saved it once yet... weird:ohno: )
grzes February 7th, 2007, 01:46 AM I agree with lebgurl, but the one Giladist posted was the most reliable online one imo, seems the most credible. Going back to check the tests in school is a good idea. The IQ tests just measure cognitive ability, so it would be kind of nice to go to a psychologist and find out how your cognitive development's been going too :cheers:
mahdial_x5 February 7th, 2007, 01:53 AM Is there an "official" test that one can take?? apart from these many Online ones?
Hassoun February 7th, 2007, 02:12 AM I don't need those tests,I'm a smart guy ;) :)
grzes February 7th, 2007, 03:36 AM Is there an "official" test that one can take?? apart from these many Online ones?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford-Binet
an official one, it's one of the ones that you're gonna get (if not the most common one) when you get the paper IQ test done.
mahdial_x5 February 7th, 2007, 04:16 AM I don't need those tests,I'm a smart guy ;) :)
ME too:cheers:
thanks for the infoo grzes:okay:
Jayme February 7th, 2007, 04:26 AM So take a test:
http://www.highiqsociety.org/iq_tests/
Should be a reliable one, but it's designed for native english speakers so people who aren't might score lower that their real IQ.
well i lived in aust for 19 years so im a pro at english :p
Jayme February 7th, 2007, 04:36 AM i got 130 ! thats a lie my IQ is a 1000 :D
lebgurl February 7th, 2007, 04:49 AM according to them my IQ is 119... maybe I've had bad schooling
mahdial_x5 February 7th, 2007, 05:00 AM AHHHHHH:gaah: WTF IS THE FIRST QUEESTIONS ANSER??!!!??!?! :D:lol:
Jayme February 7th, 2007, 05:04 AM lol those shaps are weird
lol 3 years ago on TV they had the National IQ test
blodes vs teens vs parents vs teachers vs scientest vs garbage men lol
i got 81 cos i was guessing the questions haha
Nadini February 7th, 2007, 05:06 AM ^^ I remember that, it was sooo fun
dariush4444 February 7th, 2007, 06:34 AM I hope you guys know that the "IQ" survery is complete Bull Sh*T...How can you tell the IQ of a country with a population of 80 Million just by testing a few people.
Also the world leadership figures are wrong too. For the correct history of the Persians you can see the wikipedia encyclopedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_iran
Giladist February 7th, 2007, 12:27 PM I hope you guys know that the "IQ" survery is complete Bull Sh*T...How can you tell the IQ of a country with a population of 80 Million just by testing a few people.
That's easy - in Western countries you sample people from the local universities, in non-Western countries you take the average person from the street :lol:
Kidding. Seriously, there's a whole area of research on how to do representative sampling from a large population (e.g. Simple random sampling, Stratified sampling, Cluster sampling, Quota sampling are the major ones) see here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sampling_(statistics)
And by the way, all countries are prone to sampling errors (usually within a certain margin), so if they were so prevalent they would equally effect other countries, such as china/HK or Western countries, which is clearly not the case (you can actually see pretty clear clustering here).
Btw, if I were to dispute IQ tests I would probably say that they test for specific competencies that are not necessarily equivalent to being smart.
well i lived in aust for 19 years so im a pro at english :p
I figured, but you know, you're not the only one in this forum... :lol:
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