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FloridaFuture
February 4th, 2007, 06:07 PM
Tampa Growing Up, Away From Its Powerful Roots

Published: Feb 4, 2007



TAMPA - This is where modern civilization began in West Central Florida.

A military fort, built in the early 1800s, established the area's first permanent settlement in what is now downtown Tampa.

Today, Tampa is the state's third-largest city and its location on the Interstate 4 corridor positions it as a political power center.

But the political entity that is Tampa is shrinking.

It accounts for only 12 percent of the Tampa-St. Petersburg-Clearwater area population. Its 19 percent population gain since 1970 pales compared with the 299 percent gain in unincorporated Hillsborough County.

City voters go to the polls soon to choose a half-dozen council members and a mayor whose job will include hanging on to diminishing political clout. Even the institutional advantages are being challenged.

The city is run by a mayor whose bully pulpit stands taller than anyone else around, certainly taller than the seven fiefdoms of the Hillsborough County Commission. But county voters will decide in 2008 whether to create their own mayor, too.

With increasing frequency, the city finds that it needs the county's approval, whether for convention center roof repairs, the formation of a mass transit spending plan or the redevelopment of a public housing complex.

Tampa is a diverse city with a heavily Democratic voting base. Surrounded by a sea of Republican voters, the city faces real challenges to its political power.

"Tampa still views itself as the center of everything," former Mayor Sandy Freedman said. "But it's not the center of the universe anymore, and that's hard for people to accept."

Power Shift?
In 1970, the population in unincorporated Hillsborough County was just under 200,000, while the city's was just under 300,000.

Now, the county's population has swelled to about 800,000 in the unincorporated areas, according to the Hillsborough Planning Commission. The city's population has been relatively stagnant at about 333,000.

The county runs the area's social services, including the library system and veterans affairs. County officials point to this as proof that the county is the dominant government entity.

Ask county commission Chairman Jim Norman to define the political significance of the city, and he replies, deadpan: "They are our county seat."

He continues, "Gas taxes, impact fees, everything has to go through the county. Nothing goes on the ballot without us. I don't even think it's a race."

Yet the mayor of Tampa remains the dominant political figure in the region. Tampa's supporters argue that the city will always represent the region's political and commercial pulse.

"The mayor of Tampa should be a dominant player in state politics, national politics and especially be the dominant figure in the I-4 corridor and shape how it develops," former city Councilman Bob Buckhorn said.

Helping to solidify its political power is the city's government structure.

The mayor runs the city, and a seven-member council serves as the legislative branch. By comparison, the county is run by an administrator who answers to seven commissioners who share power equally.

"The county budget is bigger, they run social services, libraries, they are an emerging force to deal with," Buckhorn said. "What they don't have is an identity. What they have is a multiheaded hydra and none of them get along with the other."

Now, a movement is afoot to push voters to create a county mayor position in November 2008. If approved, the county mayor would have considerable influence over the region and concentrate county power in a single leader.

If created, the county mayor might eclipse the Tampa mayor as the area's most powerful politician, certainly in the size of the constituency if not in name.

None of that matters much to Dolores Smith, who moved from south Tampa to Morris Bridge Road a decade ago. Even though her mailing address was Thonotosassa, Smith always considered herself a Tampa resident.

"It isn't that far to go into town," she said. "You take the Crosstown. It doesn't take that long."

Last month, the city annexed 379 acres just south of the Pasco County line, including Smith's property, returning her to Tampa's fold.

Others - from Lakeland, from Bradenton, from St. Petersburg - choose Tampa as a place to work. Mayor Pam Iorio uses that as evidence of Tampa's position as the region's commercial center.

The city's population is about 333,000 at night but swells to 447,500 during the day. That 35 percent difference is the third-largest daytime-to-nighttime population difference in the nation, behind Washington and Atlanta.

"Your city will always be your heart of everything," former Mayor Dick Greco said. "All you need to do is sit here in the morning and watch the interstate. They're pouring in."

Politics South To North
Internally, Tampa's political landscape remains unchanged.

The city's 179 square miles are home to long-established south Tampa families and fresh residents in New Tampa. The city is where Cubans and Italians settled decades ago and where a new wave of young immigrants from Latin America is moving in.

The city has pockets of affluence and pockets of poverty.

"Tampa's not a rich city; Tampa's not a poor city," said former U.S. Rep. Sam Gibbons, who represented the area for more than 40 years. "You find the niche you like to live in, and it's a good place to live."

South Tampa, with its mansions on Bayshore Boulevard, its bungalows in Palma Ceia and its new condos on Howard Avenue, has long been the base of political power in the city. Families there are well-established, with roots stretching back generations.

Residents there make their voices heard politically. Turnout in south Tampa precincts hovered in the 30 percent and 40 percent range during the last municipal election.

"One of the things that struck me is if you can't win south Tampa, you can't win," said Frank Sanchez, who lost to Iorio in the 2003 mayoral election. "They go out to vote at higher rates than the rest of the city. They seem to be more engaged in civic activities. You need to win south Tampa and do strongly in other parts of the city."

Precincts in Seminole Heights and Forest Hills also tend to show up on Election Day. West Tampa - where politics are always the topic of the day at Cuban breakfast joints - is important, too.

"West Tampa votes," said Jan Platt, a former county commissioner and city councilwoman. "In city elections, getting the support of West Tampa is critical."

New Tampa, though, hasn't shown much of an appetite for city elections. About 21 percent of New Tampa's residents voted in the 2003 election. Citywide, turnout was about 33 percent.

"Because of the transient nature in New Tampa, you can't build a power base, which is completely opposite of south Tampa, where people have roots," Platt said.

Only as New Tampa residents further settle into town will they feel more connected politically and turn out on Election Day. Considering the rapid growth there, when that happens, New Tampa voters will be more of a factor in city elections.

A Diverse Electorate
Tampa is a sea of liberal voters surrounded by a fairly conservative county in a swing state where presidential winners succeed by razor-thin margins.

In the 2004 presidential election, Tampa chose John Kerry. But in Hillsborough County as a whole, George W. Bush won.

Municipal elections are nonpartisan affairs. Still, the city voters' preference for Democrats is apparent on the city council. Five of the seven members elected to the council in 2003 are Democrats.

The three most recent mayors are Democrats: Iorio, Greco and Freedman, although Greco's pro-business philosophy is more aligned with Republican causes.

Nearly half of Tampa's 179,000 registered voters are Democrats, and 28 percent are Republicans.

Black and Hispanic residents combined make up more than 30 percent of registered voters. Expect Hispanics to become more active politically in the next several years, said Gil Sanchez, a Democrat and Hispanic activist.

"Is the representation enough now?" Sanchez said. "No, it's not. Is it going to change? Absolutely. You're going to start to see more Hispanics running in districts or areas where there's not necessarily a large concentration of Hispanics."

To some, no matter how diverse the area becomes or how quickly the county grows, political power will always rest with the city.

"Tampa is always going to be the heart and soul of this community," Buckhorn said. "Downtown is always going to be everyone's back yard."

http://www.tbo.com/news/metro/MGBNRNF0RXE.html

rider_of_rohan
February 4th, 2007, 06:53 PM
Why with such a large land area do they have only 333,000? Miami has only about 34 sq miles with more people? What takes up all the space?

TampaMike
February 4th, 2007, 11:48 PM
Why with such a large land area do they have only 333,000? Miami has only about 34 sq miles with more people? What takes up all the space?
Well, I have no clue.

Driving through Tampa, I can notice that many of the neighborhoods around Tampa are run down and basically crappy looking. With houses being vacant for years and areas looking like a dump. And not much has been focused on that. Although our mayor has pushed for more development, she has absolutely abandoned in loooking to these areas. Most of the outskirts are low class and make barely enough to pay for their house or rent for their apartment. If they could, they can renovate one area at a time. Bulldozing houses and apartment and rebuilding affordable and good looking houses/apartments. Tampa is growing, but while the core grows more, the skin of Tampa shrinks faster and faster.

multifamilyinvestor
February 5th, 2007, 12:02 AM
^^ Your question got me curious to do some research.

Florida Cities Ranked By Population:

1.) Jacksonville - 834,789, ...885 sq. miles
2.) Miami - 382,894, ...55.27 sq. miles
3.) Tampa - 345,556, ...170.6 sq. miles
4.) St. Petersburg - 254,225, ...133.1 sq. miles
5.) Orlando - 224,055, ...101 sq. miles
6.) Hialeah - 220,482, ...19.7 sq. miles
7.) Ft. Lauderdale - 164,578, ...36 sq. miles

Source: en.wikipedia.org

Looks like Miami, Ft. Lauderdale and Hialeah are much more dense than all other Florida cities.

MMH
February 5th, 2007, 12:40 AM
Hialeah and Miami are extremely dense there are hardly any land left for development in hialeah and all the houses and apartment buildings are all clustered together.

Tampa on the move.
February 5th, 2007, 03:23 AM
Well, I have no clue.

Driving through Tampa, I can notice that many of the neighborhoods around Tampa are run down and basically crappy looking. With houses being vacant for years and areas looking like a dump. And not much has been focused on that. Although our mayor has pushed for more development, she has absolutely abandoned in loooking to these areas. Most of the outskirts are low class and make barely enough to pay for their house or rent for their apartment. If they could, they can renovate one area at a time. Bulldozing houses and apartment and rebuilding affordable and good looking houses/apartments. Tampa is growing, but while the core grows more, the skin of Tampa shrinks faster and faster.

I have to disagree with you, Tampa is very diversed.. I would not say there are many poor area's where people are just making it.. You cannot tell me driving over one of our 3 bridges and look at Tampa from that vantage point and not say wow that city looks incredible, with the New Port to the south-Bayshore's lined condo's and the ever presence of a changing downtown skyline.. As 3 planes turn over the bay as they come in for landing at the best airport in the country.. Very modern city, that is just now finding it's niche and becoming a world class city.. I live in Charlotte and this city has less population 800,000 pop... than Hillsborough County and has more trash than Tampa on the highways and biways, which is in reality proper Tampa with some 1.3 million people, plus you factor in everyone that is driving from the north to Tampa and the beaches and likewise drivers going east from Pinellas, heading east to Tampa and Orlando and you get the magnitude how Tampa is the hub of all of that energy..

Don't even get me started on how many popular people and sport's figures call this area there home.. There's a reason Tampa is booming at the seems..

Tampa on the move.
February 5th, 2007, 03:25 AM
Why with such a large land area do they have only 333,000? Miami has only about 34 sq miles with more people? What takes up all the space?

Tampa city needs to annex more area's to get the population to go up. If we did like what Duval County does, we would have 1.3 million.. In the county and by 2025 we might be approaching 1.8 million ..

tampamobster21
February 5th, 2007, 04:09 AM
Take Brandon and Temple Terrace.

TampaMike
February 5th, 2007, 04:25 AM
I have to disagree with you, Tampa is very diversed.. I would not say there are many poor area's where people are just making it.. You cannot tell me driving over one of our 3 bridges and look at Tampa from that vantage point and not say wow that city looks incredible, with the New Port to the south-Bayshore's lined condo's and the ever presence of a changing downtown skyline.. As 3 planes turn over the bay as they come in for landing at the best airport in the country.. Very modern city, that is just now finding it's niche and becoming a world class city.. I live in Charlotte and this city has less population 800,000 pop... than Hillsborough County and has more trash than Tampa on the highways and biways, which is in reality proper Tampa with some 1.3 million people, plus you factor in everyone that is driving from the north to Tampa and the beaches and likewise drivers going east from Pinellas, heading east to Tampa and Orlando and you get the magnitude how Tampa is the hub of all of that energy..

Don't even get me started on how many popular people and sport's figures call this area there home.. There's a reason Tampa is booming at the seems..
Judging by that, you haven't looked on both sides of I-275 and then up to I-75. The area is well run down. Yes, you got Bayshore, Harbour Island, Westshore and all that, but that is only one part of Tampa. Maybe it does cover up Tampa's low class problem, but that doesn't mean it is still there. And with the expansion of I-275, more homes along the stretch will be demolished. Most have been vacanted for the extension, but in the back of them neighborhoods, it is still as poorly image as along the stretch. Maybe one way by pointing out how our city lacks the benefits to the low class is the Olympics. The Main reason Tampa didn't get a better look for the 2012 Olympics was because Tampa didn't have a great enough plan on homing the people that will lose their homes to development of arena's and buildings. London got the Olympics because they said that after the Games they would open the hotels for low-come apartemnts and use the rest of the land to build more apartements, something Tampa never came up with. It just shows how the low class has been buried in many of the Mayor's other plans for Tampa

Maxim98
February 5th, 2007, 04:33 AM
What part of 75 is run down? It's sparkling suburbia, baby.

smiley
February 5th, 2007, 05:36 AM
Um, did it ever occur to anyone that they may have put the highway through some of the most rundown parts of the city because there would be little political cost to doing so - especially when planning was in the 60 and early 70 and the areas where the highway goes were to a large degree black neighborhoods? (And before anyone gives me a silly argument - most of westshore was built after the highway was built and probably all of it was built after is was planned.)

TampaTower
February 5th, 2007, 06:20 AM
I like the stat on how much the city swells during the day. This shows why transportation needs to be looked at on a basis. I am sure there are a good number of people coming from Pasco, Pinealls, and Polk.

97Roll
February 5th, 2007, 04:14 PM
The Main reason Tampa didn't get a better look for the 2012 Olympics was because Tampa didn't have a great enough plan on homing the people that will lose their homes to development of arena's and buildings. London got the Olympics because they said that after the Games they would open the hotels for low-come apartemnts and use the rest of the land to build more apartements, something Tampa never came up with. It just shows how the low class has been buried in many of the Mayor's other plans for Tampa

You really have no idea what you're talking about. As someone who worked on Tampa/Orlando's Olympic bid, I can tell you that the reason that we were not considered as being competitive for the 2012 Olympics was a combination of the lack of a major transportation infrastructure, the weather, and most of all, the lack of major political and economic clout. Plus, did anyone really think we were going to compete with world class cities like NYC and London? Tampa's plan relied on utilizing primarily upgraded existing venues - there was going to be a minimal taking of land for new facilities. And a major component of the plan was the redevelopment of the public housing off of North Blvd for the Olympic Village. Once the Olympics were completed, these facilities were going to be turned back over to low income residents.

AKBTampa
February 6th, 2007, 09:23 PM
Tampa city needs to annex more area's to get the population to go up. If we did like what Duval County does, we would have 1.3 million.. In the county and by 2025 we might be approaching 1.8 million ..

I think it would be very hard and messy for Hillsborough County and the city of Tampa to merge as one entity. According to the county website the county encompasses 1048 sq. miles. I don't see why some of us feel that Tampa needs more population. Tampa could have denser development (just look to S. Tampa) but the one thing I like about the city is the amount of space. Of course it leads to transportation issues and sprawl but I am sure there are ways we can develop and grow and still manage the openness of the city and region.