droogie2
February 5th, 2007, 04:49 AM
Does anyone have a copy of the 80's Time magazine article "Paradise Lost" that they can post? or a place where its possible to find?
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View Full Version : Paradise lost droogie2 February 5th, 2007, 04:49 AM Does anyone have a copy of the 80's Time magazine article "Paradise Lost" that they can post? or a place where its possible to find? MMH February 5th, 2007, 05:06 AM Go to Time magazines website and search "miami" in their archives and you'll eventually find it theres a long list of stories where miami has been mentioned. Roark February 5th, 2007, 11:23 AM Go to Time magazines website and search "miami" in their archives and you'll eventually find it theres a long list of stories where miami has been mentioned. Or just type in time magazine "paradise lost" miami in Google and it will be the very first article on the list. Captain Hook February 5th, 2007, 12:03 PM Here we go: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,922693,00.html "An estimated 70% of all marijuana and cocaine imported into the U.S. passes through South Florida. Drug smuggling could be the region's major industry, worth anywhere from $7 billion to $12 billion a year (vs. $12 billion for real estate and $9 billion for tourism, the area's two biggest legitimate businesses). Miami's Federal Reserve branch has a currency surplus of $5 billion, mostly in drug-generated $50 and $100 bills, or more than the nation's twelve Federal Reserve banks combined. Drug money has corrupted banking, real estate, law enforcement and even the fishing industry, whose practitioners are abandoning the pursuit of snapper and grouper for the transport of bales of marijuana ("square grouper," as fishermen call it) from freighters at sea to the mainland. About one-third of the region's murders are drug-related." Miami made of.. Roark February 6th, 2007, 02:44 AM But guess what? No one was whining about property taxes or affordable housing! What a difference 26 years makes. Captain Hook February 6th, 2007, 10:59 AM No one was whining about property taxes or affordable housing! What a difference 26 years makes. Probably cause no one paid 500 000$ for a 2bd condo back then :bash: Roark February 7th, 2007, 01:45 AM Probably cause no one paid 500 000$ for a 2bd condo back then :bash: Gee...Captain...do you see a corellation and/or causation in the enhancement of the quality of life and the enhancement of property values? Why I'll bet that when people can live in a place where crime isn't a dramatic problem, where they are free from excessive government control, and community amenities are abundant then that makes for a good location location location. And everyone knows that a good location location location enhances property values. Property taxes are the price we pay for a desireable lifestlye. Show me a buyer of a $500,000 2 bedroom condo, and I'll show you a seller of a $500,000 2 bedroom condo. Captain Hook February 7th, 2007, 04:58 PM location location location, yadda yadda yadda "I hate the phrase “location, location, location” because I’ve seen a lot of idiots ruin good locations and a lot of geniuses make incredible investments out of horrible locations. You could hand over the location for Trump Tower (by far, the best location in New York City), and a moron could run the site into the ground. I guarantee it." -Donald Trump Now who should we take seriously? Credibility speaks for itself. You seem to be no more than a sh*t talking, conceited (broker?) who's been programmed to sell at whatever cost. It's almost sounds as if you're actually starting to belive in your nonsense crap. My whole point was people complain for a reason. Affordability has become an issue in the areas where only money talks. Raising homeless population and continuing high crime rates speak for itself. Roark February 8th, 2007, 07:39 AM "I hate the phrase “location, location, location” Actually, I do to. I believe in location, location, and timing. You seem to be no more than a sh*t talking, conceited (broker?) who's been programmed to sell at whatever cost. Really? "No more than...." You shouldn't jump to conclusions with your personal attacks. Conceited? Nope. Confident that my experience and education gives guidance to the ideas that I choose. My whole point was people complain for a reason. Yep, I agree...back when the "Paradise Lost" article was written, people complained about drug trafficking, murders, and low property values. NOW that those problems have been exaccerbated, many people complain about property taxes because their property values have increased so much. Which era is better...as long as I'm owning property, let's make the value go up not down. Affordability has become an issue in the areas where only money talks.Ummm....what?!?! You are dead wrong. Right now, affordibility is an issue where people make it an issue. The most vocal are the community leaders in Overtown/Liberty City. Following YOUR logic "where money talks" are you saying that Liberty City and Overtown are places where only money talks!?!?!? I'm sure that many people would disagree with YOUR assertions. Raising homeless population and continuing high crime rates speak for itself.Can you site any sources that the homeless population is rising in Miami? Or are you just making that up? While you are reseaching, it might be useful for us all to gain an understanding of the homeless population in Miami...is it 50% of Miami's population, 5%, .5% or more like .005%?? Just curious Captain, thanks for the insightful posts. Captain Hook February 8th, 2007, 08:07 AM as long as I'm owning property, let's make the value go up not down. + Conceited? Nope. = ? Ofcourse I too hope to make a living but enough is enough. We have witnessed the median prices go up by 150% in just 2 years and could only ask how much is enough for you? Ofcourse if you had just recently made your investments it's a different story but no different from what my intentions were. Is that why you still don't think we've hit the roof or is it because you have no limits? As I have stated a few times we're clearly expecting some heavy turbulance in the markets and only a denial person would argue at this point. Liberty City and Overtown Have become what they area now because certain people had to move up to those neighbourhoods mainly because they couldnt no longer afford the area they used to live in. I think it's obvious and clear the city has really cleaned up downtown area and Miami Beach. That's the case in any big city, people are being pushed out to problematic communities and let them deal on their own with whatever the issues are. That's where Miami is no different from NYC or L.A ofcourse and maybe my expectations for the city and it's improvement are too high. But the fact is as we all would agree Miami has room to grow and become a unique, one of a kind city on the edge of Caribbean. Who wouldn't want to experience it, life is a unique gift after all? To me the real question is rather Who can afford it. Maybe by now you get the point of "enough is enough" and strict specification by economic class and dividing them into certain neighbourhoods. When talking about homeless population I wouldnt first want to look into statistics from "theabsolutetruth.com". When you spend some time in problematic areas, experience the life and the problems you will learn understand and see what time it is. Some though never wish to do so for various reasons and would love to hear why if you count among them. Problems won't dissapear by just pushing them further. Confident that my experience and education gives guidance to the ideas that I choose. That's what I'd think we all could say, though your experience and education is probably so different from mine. Different kind of life from a different perspective. I've experienced what the problems of having no home can be. I've experienced the problems of "friend's" and friend's all using some drugs. It's difficult not to go with a temporary escape when you got a candy shop next door. |