Guys this discussion will never end. You are free to open a new thread the the skybar.

:okay::yes:

I think so!

you're wrong....

the league was finished & we lifted the trophy & only we decide how much they are....

29 leagues....:cheers:

inter fan fail....:banana:

Mrs could you stop this?! It is unaccepatable then STOP!

Lady or not

Tonight game will be awesome

Mrs could you stop this?! It is unaccepatable then STOP!

Lady or not

I hope we stop....:cheer:

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:cheers:

Guys this discussion will never end. You are free to open a new thread the the skybar.

serkan can you tell me how felipe melo is doing....sorry if not in topic but i don't really know others topic or how to move in certain topics....:ohno:

Beautiful pics of the interior, seen at the "stadium tour".
Here and so on with following pages -> http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1251685&page=1049 ;)

Appena tornato dal tour...si inizia con la carrellata di foto

Ingresso:

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Tribuna Gianni e Umberto Agnelli - Particolare 1 del ristorante (MOSEMAR, I RISTORANTI CI SONO E DOPO TI DIMOSTRO CHE I VETRI SONO TRASPARENTI!!!!!!!!!)

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Particolare 2 della tribuna Gianni e Umberto Agnelli:

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Particolare 3:

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e dalla tribuna si passa direttamente sul campo :)
Oh,ma vedo che il vetro è trasparente :) MIRACOLO!
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Premessa: qui di foto del campo ne ho fatte tante,quindi vedo di postarne poche...ma una cosa va detta!!!! Le foto non rendono bene...sembrano "lontane" quando in realtà il catino è una bomboniera..."piccolo" nel senso di raccolto,effetto muraglia assicurato, visibilità ECCELLENTE...cacchio le persone le vedi nitide...insomma è un tour che STRACONSIGLIO!!!!

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Particolare degli skybox:

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La TRIBUNA 100!!!!!

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particolare della tribuna 100!

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Ci è stato spiegato che sono ben 6 i livelli dello stadio...tra tribune e quant'altro....diciamo che da questa foto qualcosa si intuisce:

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e ancora:

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Attacco dei pennoni al suolo:
Oh ma lì vedo 1 bar... :)
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Grazie a te che ti è piaciuto :)

Terz'ultima foto,il piazzale delle stelle...è enorme...e questo è solo un particolare:

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Juventus supporters yesterday in Rome

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juve is the club which has the most fans in away matchs

what the f*** is lille ?? i must check a map . Lille what they won ? or what is history of this club becouse in france is only OM and OL but lille ? i think in next sezon we will se maybe lille in europen league so they can not hang on with Juve :]

Couldn't agree more! - Who the f*** is Lille to be mentioned in the same breath as the heavy weights of Europe?

And I would love to 'weigh in' on some of the comments made by AxelRose, but I can't understand a word she throws into google translate to try and pass off as a coherent response... I think I read this as one of her responses..

"But you know with a true stadium all the team can be beaten and juve is not an exception."?????? Like wtf, really?

Couldn't agree more! - Who the f*** is Lille to be mentioned in the same breath as the heavy weights of Europe?

And I would love to 'weigh in' on some of the comments made by AxelRose, but I can't understand a word she throws into google translate to try and pass off as a coherent response... I think I read this as one of her responses..

"But you know with a true stadium all the team can be beaten and juve is not an exception."?????? Like wtf, really?
Yeah, some english lessons wouldn't harm her.

What is up with the French (e.g. Axelferis), who always add smilies which have no meaning :horse:

Congratulations Torino people!! Your new stadium is really beautiful :)

lol, we have the same in Turkey :D

And not only in Turkey. You can find that chant in every 'football' country.
(In Slovenia, it's more or less used for games of national team and not clubs(http://youtu.be/yjydp62ean0) :)
slightly off topic:P

On: This new Juve Stadium became my new fav italian stadium:) Good work!

where will be a new museum ??? in the stadium ?

Juventus 2
Cesena 0

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Goals of Vidal and Marchisio

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And the beautiful Juventus Anthem

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I really like this stadium. The seat design does wonders for it and adds something extra especially if compared to just plain seating. It gives it another dimension and I think other stadiums should try it.

I also like the fact that the stadium has a larger lower tier but still a substantial top tier aswell.

Juve have now had two stadiums which are total opposites. The Dell Alpi was the worst kind of football stadium and this new stadium is probably the best style of football stadium.

Big club like Juventus should have a greats stadium with capasity 60k++

Big club like Juventus should have a greats stadium with capasity 60k++
They had a bigger stadium but that had a athletics track around it and it did not have a cozy atmopshere. This is a perfect solution for Juventus.

i have a question, they let you at a tim cup match with an dslr camera to take photos? i'm curious becose it's my first time to go to Juventus match and i want to have some nice photos.

i have a question, they let you at a tim cup match with an dslr camera to take photos? i'm curious becose it's my first time to go to Juventus match and i want to have some nice photos.

go to the link posted by curva nord where there are pictures found in the page before this....it's the juventus stadium forum in italian but they can respond in english if it is needed to help you....:cheers:

because here it's less active....:nuts:

i have a question, they let you at a tim cup match with an dslr camera to take photos? i'm curious becose it's my first time to go to Juventus match and i want to have some nice photos.
Yeah, no problem ;)

Thanks a lot Mrs.Sissy and Curva Nord for your answers! FORTZA JUVE!!

Thanks a lot Mrs.Sissy and Curva Nord for your answers! FORTZA JUVE!!

no problem we are here to help anyone who need it....:)

enjoy your match....:)

Is it true that if Juve wins the scudetto this season it will add a third golden star on its shirt? And if they get the Coppa Italia as well, it will also put the first silver star?

i smell a flame :)

They had a bigger stadium but that had a athletics track around it and it did not have a cozy atmopshere. This is a perfect solution for Juventus.

If small club like lille can bUild a big football stadium, why not for juventus? Their main rival milan and inter had san siro with capasity 80k++. Juventus is the biggest club in Turin. I think 40k football stadium for them is too small. In the next 10 years, im sure they will thinking about renovation.

Is it true that if Juve wins the scudetto this season it will add a third golden star on its shirt? And if they get the Coppa Italia as well, it will also put the first silver star?

yes & probably we would need a new emblem that fits well our glorious stars....but let's not start with these things were still in december....:bash:

in italy we are armed with red peppers when talking about these things from south to north....:nuts:

If small club like lille can bUild a big football stadium, why not for juventus? Their main rival milan and inter had san siro with capasity 80k++. Juventus is the biggest club in Turin. I think 40k football stadium for them is too small. In the next 10 years, im sure they will thinking about renovation.

well san siro is never full even against inter there was 78k people which 15k or more of them were juventus fans....i think we hold the record in san siro with our home match played in there with more fans than it's real capacity seating plus standing....like other stadiums we play always home apart some areas where there isn't security & you finish fighting not supporting....

we in some matches used to reach the capacity of the old stadium or even more especially in modern stadiums like we have now or around the world but our problem is that we don't a good average attendence we in italy small team are not considered only derbies or big matches are considered....

infact the ''best'' average attendence in italy is of inter with 56k considering their recent ''success'' & their stadium is big for hosting important matches & our supporters plus the fact that we are limited in big matches with our 41k capacity....:ohno:

yes & probably we would need a new emblem that fits well our glorious stars....but let's not start with these things were still in december....:bash:

in italy we are armed with red peppers when talking about these things from south to north....:nuts:

Tehahaha - I feel bad for people in this thread that believe what Mary Sissy writes.

Juve is at 27 titles according to the facts. Sorry if no one has read my previous posts, but I only listen/deal with facts!

And in NO way will Juve be putting a 3rd star on their jersey if they win lo scudetto this year, even Agnelli is not that egotistical, but then again, he is still pursuing something...what it is I dont know, and I don't think apart from juve fans, no one else knows either....lol:nuts:

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wonderfull

Have attendances been holding up throughout the season?

yes^^ game tickets have always been sold out, apart from the match with Cesena.

yes^^ game tickets have always been sold out, apart from the match with Cesena.

Thanks, good work Juve

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great video. It really helps you understanding how the stadium is like.

great video,forza juve :)

Tnx for video Curva Nord !

Congratz with the new stadium it really breathes the Juve style.

The Swiss Ramble (http://swissramble.blogspot.com/2012/01/juventus-black-night-white-light.html) with another excellent (and long) story on the state of Juventus finances.

The short form of the story is that Juve has lost a ton of money the past few years but things should get better with the stadium and qualification to the Champions League once again. Worth the read.

The big thing I learned was that Juve already sold their stadium naming rights to a 3rd party and it is up to that 3rd party company called Sportfive to get a naming sponsor. Sportfive acquired the stadium naming rights for a guaranteed minimum of €75 million, of which €42 million has already been paid to the club and the remaining €33 million will be paid over the next 12 years in equal annual installments of €2.75 million.

Nice video curva... Are the corners always empty due to cables? They need to remove them..

Beautiful panoramic views of Torino, do you see the Juventus Stadium? :)
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sinetempore @ flickr.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/flashback85/6528152981

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sinetempore @ flickr.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/flashback85/6527085833

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Nice video curva... Are the corners always empty due to cables? They need to remove them..

They're probably empty because everyone moves into the center to stand.

They're probably empty because everyone moves into the center to stand.

Even when its full? So everyone squeezes together and stands and nobody is seated? Cant beleive that?

Even when its full? So everyone squeezes together and stands and nobody is seated? Cant beleive that?

I've been to a couple of games at the old Delle Alpi (including a sell out). Seat assignments were just a suggestion. Everyone in the corners moved to the center of the stands and just stood. It was pretty cool.

Even when its full? So everyone squeezes together and stands and nobody is seated? Cant beleive that?

yes, it still is an italian curva ;)

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Congratulation Juve supporters this stadium is absolute stunning from outside but also inside. I like the details which make it special in comparison to the other new stadiums who are build in europe.:banana::banana::banana:

And i'm also really stunned you got it for that low cost (including demolishing of the old one). :banana::banana::banana::banana:

A lot of people here complained about it, being too small with 41.000 but the average attendance is 37.000, so i guess it was right to make it so. Italian fans prefer watching games at tv or bars. Seria A has only an average attendance of 22.000 right now. They need to build or renovate more stadiums.
Compare this to germany where the average attendance is 45.000!!! :nuts:

Better building a smaller stadium which is full and have good atmosphere than building an overseized stadium were atmosphere lack. :)

Lille, Valencia, Lyon and Atletico Madrid who can't even fill their current stadiums but build overseized stadium will suffer because of that. It's foolish to think that only because of new,great stadium 20.000-30.000 people will come more. :bash::bash::bash::bash::bash:

Look at Port, Lisboa clubs. They have one of the best stadiums in europe but can't fill it at all.Not even in CL:lol:

Juve did the right! :banana::banana::banana:

@robbery-> The actual stadiums in the cities you have mentionned are bad or don't meet anymore public standards!

Lille & Lyon will be sort of "disney village sports" (especially Lyon one) because roads & transports quality facilities+ commercial zone around to enable girlfriends kids+mothers to come enjoy too in it.

It's a new approach i give you rendez vous for the case that direct concerns me: lille :)

A lot of people here complained about it, being too small with 41.000 but the average attendance is 37.000, so i guess it was right to make it so. na:

actually the stadium has been always sold out, apart from the match with cesena (and bologna in coppa italia). 37000 is the maximum amount of seats available for home supporters. in the 41000 seats you have to count 2000 seats for the guest team supporters and 2000 premium seats, which are not counted in the attendance data, for seasons that are beyond me.

premium seats are counted!

Each person entering into the stadium is electronically perceived and counted!

premium seats are counted!

Each person entering into the stadium is electronically perceived and counted!

Fab is right.
All tickets have been sold from the first match (Juve-Notts County) until today (excluding the Noth-east stand, the one for the host supposters). Maybe one or two match some expensive tickent haven't been sold, but we are talking about a very small quantity of ticket.

Premium seats are not included in this count.
The average of the ticket sold until today (including the season tickets as 1 sold ticket/match) is between 39.000 and 41.000, depending on the number of host supporters in the north-east stand.

PS: sorry for my English...

premium seats are counted!

Each person entering into the stadium is electronically perceived and counted!

i really don't understand why you always think you're right when it comes to things that you don't know.

i don't understand this way of counting...

sorry.

In other countries when you speak about attendance it includes ALL spectators whatever the section.

In other countries when you speak about attendance it includes ALL spectators whatever the section.
Not at all! The numbers from hospitality and corporate facilities are very seldomly precise. So you get the total number of regulars + estimate of how many richer people got inside. People there don't get counted like sheep, like regular fans. Because they pay more and expect some dignity of which regular supporters are legally devoided, even if they also pay quite a lot. So even 'precise numbers' are most of the time only close to the real ones, if ever.

I'm sorry to insist but during a match at SDF st denis the screenboard always annouces the whole number of spectators!

It is an obligation to count everybody at least for police services which has to know EXACTLY each person who have reserved a place in the stadium in case of problems.

Even if all suites are empty, they are "full" for the attendance.

And some clubs also count the season tickets holders, although there are not inside (Arsenal or Ajax)

I'm sorry to insist but during a match at SDF st denis the screenboard always annouces the whole number of spectators!

It is an obligation to count everybody at least for police services which has to know EXACTLY each person who have reserved a place in the stadium in case of problems.

True! I think Juve is happy with their new stadium and i don't think they will change sth. for the next 15 years.

As a bayern-supporter we have the same problem that Allianz Arena is always sold out with 69.000(for 5 years now in Bundesliga). We easily could sell as much tickets as Dortmund or Barca. But i guess even more while there are much more bayern-supporter than Dortmund in germany and they have 80.000

Even if all suites are empty, they are "full" for the attendance.

And some clubs also count the season tickets holders, although there are not inside (Arsenal or Ajax)

premium seats are not the suites. it's the lower west stand. i don't know why they don't count it in the attendance. let's put it this way: countable capacity of this stadium is 39000 including the host supporters stand.

I'm sorry to insist but during a match at SDF st denis the screenboard always annouces the whole number of spectators!

It is an obligation to count everybody at least for police services which has to know EXACTLY each person who have reserved a place in the stadium in case of problems.
And I'm telling you this does not apply to luxury facilities. Go and ask at SDF...
Skyboxes were invented partly to allow the people inside to escape the strict laws that apply to general public. They are treated specially and if someone has a 12-person lodge and brings 5 people to a game or brings no one or brings 20, it will in most cases still be counted as 12 people. Strict rules simply don't apply here. That's why you can see people drinking champagne or 40% alcohols in skyboxes in countries where national legislation prohibits any sort of alco inside stadiums.

True! I think Juve is happy with their new stadium and i don't think they will change sth. for the next 15 years.

As a bayern-supporter we have the same problem that Allianz Arena is always sold out with 69.000(for 5 years now in Bundesliga). We easily could sell as much tickets as Dortmund or Barca. But i guess even more while there are much more bayern-supporter than Dortmund in germany and they have 80.000
Then again - there are sooo many Juventus supporters in Italy and yet they had to build a smaller stadium. Truth is it doesn't count how many people declare to support a club, it's about how many people would be willing to come to the stadium regularly.

in italy there will never be a full house with e small team....away fans bringing 250-1,000k people is one of the problems....

i agree with you that the best fan is the one who supports not only from tv or street bars work home etc but mainly in the stadium....but it does'nt mean the others arent fans....you have to see the real problems....

delle alpi was a small problem to to being extremely big cold & extremely uncomfortable & some other few reasons but it was still 4-5 at that time i think as biggest stadium behind the know ones having more than 70k....

if you at least one time did fill a 70k stadium it means that you have fans enough to fill it....so the problem is how to attract....

one of the reasons & i think it is being solved is a new stadium....

another thing is how to bring fans from turin itself so imagine to bring fans from the south or outside italy....

the other reason is definitely the prices where you can't talk about germany with their prices they share & keep under control prices otherswise they would fall in attendence too as they were many years ago....

you just can't spend 200-300 euros for a seat coming from the south against cesena....& the ones in the north tell you that to spend 300 euros for a match with cesena when the stadium is just a few mins hours close i prefer seeing it from tv....

attendence in italy is 23-24 attendence....where every match played by us away was a seasonal record & not by 100 fans....but the least difference is example in lecce i think where the difference between us & milan in lecce was about 5-8k if not more considering some of the home fans being on a strike because the prices for the match grown from 25 euros to 40-50 euros!!!!!!!!

if we do not control prices we will not ever make full house every game & when i say 'we' i mean all italian teams especially the ones that can afford a 25-35k fans because there are teams in serie a that don't have that follow but only 10-15k....

Even when its full? So everyone squeezes together and stands and nobody is seated? Cant beleive that?

we should have made the curva standing only areas where as they still are set as original italian stands where standing is the best especially when supporting & including with banners & flags etc....

about this 'problem' i also hear complaints of people who go in curva but can't see anything because people & ultra stay standing....i ask myself why they go in curva in a definetely not so small '40k arena or stadium' but they have the right to complain if they don't see....:ohno:

Beautiful panoramic views of Torino, do you see the Juventus Stadium? :)
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7030/6528152981_161687cdba_b.jpg
sinetempore @ flickr.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/flashback85/6528152981

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7154/6527085833_77f48410f1_b.jpg
sinetempore @ flickr.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/flashback85/6527085833

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7151/6528174295_79c7d8dea3_b.jpg
sinetempore @ flickr.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/flashback85/6528174295

100% SURE WE DO SEE IT:cheers:

there's no need to hear it by me but beautifull pictures indeed....:)

Congratulation Juve supporters this stadium is absolute stunning from outside but also inside. I like the details which make it special in comparison to the other new stadiums who are build in europe.:banana::banana::banana:

And i'm also really stunned you got it for that low cost (including demolishing of the old one). :banana::banana::banana::banana:

A lot of people here complained about it, being too small with 41.000 but the average attendance is 37.000, so i guess it was right to make it so. Italian fans prefer watching games at tv or bars. Seria A has only an average attendance of 22.000 right now. They need to build or renovate more stadiums.
Compare this to germany where the average attendance is 45.000!!! :nuts:

Better building a smaller stadium which is full and have good atmosphere than building an overseized stadium were atmosphere lack. :)

Lille, Valencia, Lyon and Atletico Madrid who can't even fill their current stadiums but build overseized stadium will suffer because of that. It's foolish to think that only because of new,great stadium 20.000-30.000 people will come more. :bash::bash::bash::bash::bash:

Look at Port, Lisboa clubs. They have one of the best stadiums in europe but can't fill it at all.Not even in CL:lol:

Juve did the right! :banana::banana::banana:

as i said in previous posts it doesn't mean they don't have enough fans....

having 10k-30k fans attending away matches plus fans 'undercover' with home fans probably being afraid of finding or getting into trouble shows us that the real problems to tackle aren't building a new stadium or make higher tickets....in italy those tricks or bluffs doesn't work....

i'm sure that with the old delle alpi if we would have had serious problems fixed some of them are ones who german teams had before we would have stayed in it....

it was bigger & better for big matches where the fans really count & in italy that's what they look....it's not like england or germany where facing the last team makes us fill an 80k stadium....

the capacity of the stadium was taken from media attendence & from the budget they had....in the future not only for a big team like juventus but for a boost in money too they have to enlarge capacity....

1 thing is really important 100% with no empty seat will never happen in italy at least at juventus & till they continue to see money & not fans....

average attendence in serie a i think it's 23-24k & it's gone down again from last year from the 28k average....

so in the end juventus objective was reached having 60%-70% positive attendence on the whole italian football structure & i think we have 87%-88% as full capacity attendence....:cheers:

as i said in previous posts it doesn't mean they don't have enough fans....

having 10k-30k fans attending away matches plus fans 'undercover' with home fans probably being afraid of finding or getting into trouble shows us that the real problems to tackle aren't building a new stadium or make higher tickets....in italy those tricks or bluffs doesn't work....

i'm sure that with the old delle alpi if we would have had serious problems fixed some of them are ones who german teams had before we would have stayed in it....

it was bigger & better for big matches where the fans really count & in italy that's what they look....it's not like england or germany where facing the last team makes us fill an 80k stadium....

the capacity of the stadium was taken from media attendence & from the budget they had....in the future not only for a big team like juventus but for a boost in money too they have enlarge capacity....

1 thing is really important 100% with no empty seat will never happen in italy at least at juventus & till they continue to see money & not fans....

average attendence in serie a i think it's 23-24k & it's gone down again from last year from the 28k average....

so in the end juventus objective was reached having 60%-70% positive attendence on the whole italian football structure & i think we have 87%-88% as full capacity attendence....:cheers:

I saw on footytube some Juve games in Dell Alpi and it seemed the crowd enjoyed the games a lot. Atmosphere was excellent, so who cares about a few empty seats.

I guess attendance in italy is not only because of the old stadiums so poor, but also:

1. SKY sports abo. Nearly 5 million household in italy have the sky-abo. So surely people with sky will watch games at home. For comparison in germany which has a bigger population only 2,8 million
2. italy is in a recession for some years now and in addition to the high-prices people stay at home in these days
3. italy has a league with 20 teams=> a lot of games are just not important relevant when the 14 of the tableau play against the 9th.

My proposal: reduce the league from 20 to 18 (no matter if sky pays less)
and you will see a lot more games which have more value. Playing against relegation or for europe. Also 4 games less means a little winter break. And in winter attendance normally drop.

Im sure with 18 teams italy could raise to 30.000

not sure on that last point.

juve-inter still juve-inter

cesena-sienna still cesena-sienna

with 20 clubs or 18 clubs.

I highly doubt sky want to brodcast this sort of match in prime time

I saw on footytube some Juve games in Dell Alpi and it seemed the crowd enjoyed the games a lot. Atmosphere was excellent, so who cares about a few empty seats.

I guess attendance in italy is not only because of the old stadiums so poor, but also:

1. SKY sports abo. Nearly 5 million household in italy have the sky-abo. So surely people with sky will watch games at home. For comparison in germany which has a bigger population only 2,8 million
2. italy is in a recession for some years now and in addition to the high-prices people stay at home in these days
3. italy has a league with 20 teams=> a lot of games are just not important relevant when the 14 of the tableau play against the 9th.

My proposal: reduce the league from 20 to 18 (no matter if sky pays less)
and you will see a lot more games which have more value. Playing against relegation or for europe. Also 4 games less means a little winter break. And in winter attendance normally drop.

Im sure with 18 teams italy could raise to 30.000

going to 18 teams would be already a step foward not really for attendence but to increase teams below to increase determination & performance & fight till last....

when you see san siro having 38k people against lecce here is considered a record....the stadium holds 80k....inter juventus had a view full house of which at least 15k where juventus fans & we could'nt be more because inter fans filled the stadium like every other team we played against away...

you tell me how inter fans filled all the stadium if 15k juventus fans were there ?....the answer is simple....it's the fact that for a big game between those 3 clubs demand is huge....

prices
accessabilty to stadiums
talks with clubs & fans
more modern stadiums
more oppurtunities

& more open minded not where everybody wants to win otherwise we say or discharge referees or penalties or fouls or too much extra time....

yes in italy even for extra time we complain on tv & in rare cases you even have the pleasure to see a coach almost crying for desperation & offending referees or the ball holders....:(

not sure on that last point.

juve-inter still juve-inter

cesena-sienna still cesena-sienna

with 20 clubs or 18 clubs.

I highly doubt sky want to brodcast this sort of match in prime time

on this case i'm agreed with you....it's bad to see teams like the last 2 positioned to defend themselves in 11 when they need points to survive....

juventus milan inter are the best team in italy but to improve the quality of italian football as structrures every team need to wake up....

the case you mentioned like juventus inter juventus milan or derbies will bring more people & that's why italian attendence will never be better because here it's like we are'nt true supporters we go support in big matches....we think that playing with small teams is sort of a training match because they go defend in 11 all in their area....

so we can be seen as false supporters or supporters who want only big atmosphere games....only the thing i know for sure our team & stadium is suffering of seeing a game against a team having 10-15k fans away fans included....:ohno:

i agree with you that the best fan is the one who supports not only from tv or street bars work home etc but mainly in the stadium....but it does'nt mean the others arent fans....you have to see the real problems....
Oh, no. I never said they aren't fans, it's not about that. I mean that there are many people who associate themselves with the club but still do not see a point in going to the game. Trying to attract them is a lost cause...

And I'm telling you this does not apply to luxury facilities. Go and ask at SDF...
Skyboxes were invented partly to allow the people inside to escape the strict laws that apply to general public. They are treated specially and if someone has a 12-person lodge and brings 5 people to a game or brings no one or brings 20, it will in most cases still be counted as 12 people. Strict rules simply don't apply here. That's why you can see people drinking champagne or 40% alcohols in skyboxes in countries where national legislation prohibits any sort of alco inside stadiums.

Blah, blah, blah...
Then tell me how on earth the overall (and official) attendance figure given on the screens or by the speaker at Wembley (at least when I've been there: 3 times), was over 80K... while as you already know I presume, Wembley has 16,000 Club seats (where I was seated, twice) + xxx Boxes seats...

The same at the Stade de France.. 'cause despite its 6-8,000 premium seats + its 2,800 suites seats (which I also know, both of them)... several official attendance figures given, were over 80K.... ;)

(not to mention the numerous other stadiums where I've already been, in Europe, in North America, or elsewhere)...

Blah, blah, blah...
Then tell me how on earth the overall (and official) attendance figure given on the screens or by the speaker at Wembley (at least when I've been there: 3 times), was over 80K... while as you already know I presume, Wembley has 16,000 Club seats (where I was seated, twice) + xxx Boxes seats...
As I already said, which you decided to ignore, it's not like the premium seats are not counted in, they are just simply not counted as precisely as regular ones.

As I already said, [...] it's not like the premium seats are not counted in, they are just simply not counted as precisely as regular ones.

And I still disagree ! (I mean, at least regarding the stadiums where I've been)

@michal -> i don't know how the prefecture could process in a case of a major problem if they don't exactly know WHO was in the stadium :ohno:

I'm sorry but you must be misinformed man (in france at least)

i check only the attendence figure on various sites....& i say it's pretty trustable....37-38k on 41k make sense because 2,5k are for away fans & behind cables it's empty not only because they move in center but for the price to sit there not even in the old delle alpi had this problem....

i agree with who says the numbers are official or at least trustable...it makes sense that the season ticket holders are counted because indeed they are 24k-25 & would be silly to say they were not....more than half the capacity....

said that i know how italian football works & having our attendence rise like this after two years 7(which for us means last place)is a good result....

seeing other stadiums in italy it is even more an impressive result....
many years need to pass before we can opt for hosting some international competition at least 10 years have to pass....

there's no intention of improving football but to gain money & spend as least as possible....

to give you an example at this stage our national team playing in a 60k-70k stadium would even find it difficult to fill more than half of it....:ohno:

@michal -> i don't know how the prefecture could process in a case of a major problem if they don't exactly know WHO was in the stadium :ohno:
Name one example of when people from the premium seats were responsible for trouble...

Compared with the delle alpi, Juventus now has a proper and decent football stadium. Love it!!

Why italians abandon attendance at stadiums?

2006 you were champions of the World no?

I don't know why so weak enthusiasm?? Italy is a land of football no?

Why italians abandon attendance at stadiums?

2006 you were champions of the World no?

I don't know why so weak enthusiasm?? Italy is a land of football no?

And a land of shitty football stadiums, tessera del tifoso and other great inventions like nationwide stadium closings as supposed solution to the problem of hooliganism...

And a land of shitty football stadiums, tessera del tifoso and other great inventions like nationwide stadium closings as supposed solution to the problem of hooliganism...

well said my friend....:ohno:

it's not that we don't have enthusiasm but clearly even with what happened with the scandals & the latest one again happening this year football here is finished....with a loss or a win your mind automatically goes there....

football is dead here....many years need to pass but still the hit is there....in europe french & portugal teams will pass us & our national team is a young & 'normal team' compared to other years....

really sad....:ohno:

world of football once we were & really nice to hearing it again....thank you....:cripes:

Is the official name of this stadium "Juventus Stadium"?

Or it is it "Stadio Juventus"?

What do native Italians call it?

Why italians abandon attendance at stadiums?

2006 you were champions of the World no?

I don't know why so weak enthusiasm?? Italy is a land of football no?

I still know the time when i watched summary of italian league end 90, begin 2000 when i was young kid. The stadiums were packed and it was the best league in the world with the best players.

Even clubs like Parma, Fiorentina or Lazio had some wordclass-players and were very competitive. All the clubs spend so much money for players in these days. Imagine some of them would invested the money in new stadium and not in expensive players:bash:

and then the rise of premier league began and calciopoli started.

btw: italians are still very enthusiastic about football but also about sky sport :-D

enthusiastic?

Canal+ broadcast a large part of this league and we have 50% of stadiums empty :mad:

yes we know the reason but i wouldn't use this term which looks like a dying championship if no new stadiums start to be built.

Italian teams still strong anyway...for the moment.

When you know PSG has money to pay tevez + pato but none of the players would want to leave for paris but in the future they won't resist when €€€€ will be presented to them.

I maintain Serie A is one of the strong championship on the planet and it continue to prove it. But a lack of money due to economic restrictions in italy+FIFA fair play will begin to make their effect in 2-3 years i think :|

You just have to look at Spain and taxes now. football players will pass from 25% of taxes to 50% :lol:

We 'll see a lot of players leave this championship ...

Is the official name of this stadium "Juventus Stadium"?

Or it is it "Stadio Juventus"?

What do native Italians call it?

Apparently it's Juventus Stadium, just as the club officialy calles themselves Juventus FC

"Stadium" is a Latin word, so it resonate well in Italian too.

^^ True. People often forget that "stadium" and "(h)arena" are latin words in the first place.

nice stadium

Even when its full? So everyone squeezes together and stands and nobody is seated? Cant beleive that?
In South Stand (the stand of Ultras) nobody is seated, so you can see (for examble in the first rows which appears in TV images) many people very very close standing in the centre of the Curva...these are the italian Curvas way since 50 years ago of football ;)

In North we are all seated but if you want, you can find some empty seats in the centre and you can seat there leaving empty your seat :D

juventus new stadium beautiful but ı think the stadium should have been larger, sample 50k

Just to let everyone know:

Google Maps is still showing Stadio delle Alpi instead of the new stadium on its satellite map.:lol:

Another "sold out" to celebrate the first night of 2012 in the home. For Juventus-Roma, valid for the quarter-finals of the Cup Italy Tim Cup schedule Tuesday, January 24, there are no coupons available.
After the phase of first refusal to subscribers and Premium Members, the open sale has resulted in less than a week to yet another sold out. Sold all the tickets available, so the Juventus Stadium will be full again.
Complete with a very family atmosphere. Great success had promotions for women, boys Under 18, Students and Over 65.
To make it even more special and to encourage the team of Antonio Conte, before the match will be distributed 39 thousand flags.
The Juventus Stadium will be more vibrant than ever!

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^^ True. People often forget that "stadium" and "(h)arena" are latin words in the first place.

Stadium is of course a Greek word.

Stadium is of course a Greek word.

Stadion is a Greek word indeed, but stadium is its Latin version ;).

Another "sold out" to celebrate the first night of 2012 in the home. For Juventus-Roma, valid for the quarter-finals of the Cup Italy Tim Cup schedule Tuesday, January 24, there are no coupons available.
After the phase of first refusal to subscribers and Premium Members, the open sale has resulted in less than a week to yet another sold out. Sold all the tickets available, so the Juventus Stadium will be full again.
Complete with a very family atmosphere. Great success had promotions for women, boys Under 18, Students and Over 65.
To make it even more special and to encourage the team of Antonio Conte, before the match will be distributed 39 thousand flags.
The Juventus Stadium will be more vibrant than ever!

:nocrook:

39,000 flags distributed. The Juventus Stadium will be full of black and white :rock:

Juve deserve a bigger stadium than this. 50k i guess.

39,000 flags distributed. The Juventus Stadium will be full of black and white :rock:
Who distributed flags? If a club like Juve has flags done by the club and not fans, my hope for football would be lost...

Unbelievable emotions tonight at the stadium...a small test for the next edition of CL

The anthem and the black and white show after the match ;)

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FORZA JUVE!!

I support Roma because Stekelenburg plays for them and it's a shame that Juve put three past him. Oh well, good game Juve and hopefully Roma will soon get a stadium like this too. :cheers:

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Who distributed flags? If a club like Juve has flags done by the club and not fans, my hope for football would be lost...

and why do you say so? :)

and why do you say so? :)

I'm not answering for Michal but a lot of fans have no interest in 'club funded' displays. In today's overly commercial football world, these are looked at with disdain by a lot fans. A lot of fans believe that displays should be prepared and carried out only be Ultra groups, or organised supporter groups.

Juventus have a historic and passionate Ultra element and the displays done by the likes of Drughi, Viking etc are viewed as 'legitimate' by fans, whereas the likes of the one's done by Barcelona, or for example, Chelsea handing out flags to fans to wave are viewed as 'wrong' in the eyes of traditional football fans.

Hope that was understandable...? :nuts:

the attendance is better in this new stadium?

^^ of course it is.

I'm not answering for Michal but a lot of fans have no interest in 'club funded' displays. In today's overly commercial football world, these are looked at with disdain by a lot fans. A lot of fans believe that displays should be prepared and carried out only be Ultra groups, or organised supporter groups.

Juventus have a historic and passionate Ultra element and the displays done by the likes of Drughi, Viking etc are viewed as 'legitimate' by fans, whereas the likes of the one's done by Barcelona, or for example, Chelsea handing out flags to fans to wave are viewed as 'wrong' in the eyes of traditional football fans.

Hope that was understandable...? :nuts:

Traditionally speaking you are right :) but yesterday the fans waved the flags happily and didn't it look beautiful? :)

Can someone tell me the attendance in yesdarday's match please.

My pics: I change my seat just for the Cup Match...

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Traditionally speaking you are right :) but yesterday the fans waved the flags happily and didn't it look beautiful? :)

Can someone tell me the attendance in yesdarday's match please.
40k

It's just like watching Juve (cit.)

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WOW!

Who distributed flags? If a club like Juve has flags done by the club and not fans, my hope for football would be lost...

The owners are fans too :)

any pics of the concourses?

any pics of the concourses?

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FIND THE DIFFERENCE!
^^

thank you curva :)

I just notice that only juventus has a ressemblance with what it's developed in Europe (english & german like stadiums )

It's incredible to see a poor attendance in milan.

Even in France we'll beat in this field you with our new generation of stadiums (Lille,Lyon,Marseille,Bordeaux,Nice,valenciennes...)

I remember the advance italy had in 1990 with big stadiums and the best teams. It was so far from actual situation with...the same stadiums ?:

Turin demonstrates that a new stadium with all comodities attract people.

The 2 milano should build their own grounds but in the actual economic context... :|

I'm not answering for Michal but a lot of fans have no interest in 'club funded' displays.[...]
You were, but did it perfectly, thanks! :)

The owners are fans too :)
Changing the subject and unless it's a democraticly ran club then no, they aren't :) not in this context.

Traditionally speaking you are right :) but yesterday the fans waved the flags happily and didn't it look beautiful? :)
No, it didn't, sorry. This was a quite poorly looking display - flags are good only when big enough to cover the crowd at least a bit, those were very small and in my opinion didn't do the job, especially the striped ones. I'm not trying to be negative on this and clearly not saying my club has everything worked out better, but this looked very unsatisfying to me, especially when talking about Juve. It's not some English club (all due respect, of course) without ultra culture, it's Juventus. Meanwhile the Curva Sud looked pretty much like The Kop at Anfield, but today's Kop, not the legendary one.

Taking into account my image of Juve from years back the current stadium looks rather pathetic as far as supporter culture is concerned. I honestly cannot find ONE good clip on YT that would illustrate the passion. Singing barely the chorus of the anthem played from loudspeakers is clearly not the thing I'm looking for and it's very hard to find anything that would show people supporting during the actual game. If you have a clip, bring it and I'll be glad to change my mind :)

You were, but did it perfectly, thanks! :)


Changing the subject and unless it's a democraticly ran club then no, they aren't :) not in this context.


No, it didn't, sorry. This was a quite poorly looking display - flags are good only when big enough to cover the crowd at least a bit, those were very small and in my opinion didn't do the job, especially the striped ones. I'm not trying to be negative on this and clearly not saying my club has everything worked out better, but this looked very unsatisfying to me, especially when talking about Juve. It's not some English club (all due respect, of course) without ultra culture, it's Juventus. Meanwhile the Curva Sud looked pretty much like The Kop at Anfield, but today's Kop, not the legendary one.

Taking into account my image of Juve from years back the current stadium looks rather pathetic as far as supporter culture is concerned. I honestly cannot find ONE good clip on YT that would illustrate the passion. Singing barely the chorus of the anthem played from loudspeakers is clearly not the thing I'm looking for and it's very hard to find anything that would show people supporting during the actual game. If you have a clip, bring it and I'll be glad to change my mind :)

Its ok :)

Let's enjoy some photos of Coppa Italia Juventus vs. Roma provided by Delsa.

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Taking into account my image of Juve from years back the current stadium looks rather pathetic as far as supporter culture is concerned. I honestly cannot find ONE good clip on YT that would illustrate the passion. Singing barely the chorus of the anthem played from loudspeakers is clearly not the thing I'm looking for and it's very hard to find anything that would show people supporting during the actual game. If you have a clip, bring it and I'll be glad to change my mind :)

I think supporters feel they have to respect this new stadium, everyone who goes to the stadium has fun, guest teams and supporters are impressed, I understand what you mean but honestly i think you could get a little bit over that. I agree with you that the ultras in curva sud look a little afraid of doing the things they used to, but i wouldn't complain too much. Everyone is having fun and you can see the passion and excitement in everyone's eyes.

anyway, supporting during the game

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you don't see this in english stadia..

Or for example, during goal kick the whole stadium yells "ooooooooh...merda!"

you don't see this in english stadia..

Or for example, during goal kick the whole stadium yells "ooooooooh...merda!"

That actually does take place at English stadiums, just not every match or every goal kick (thank christ for that because its annoying as shit)

in France we have " Ho hisseee...encu***" :ohno: since 20 years!

I think supporters feel they have to respect this new stadium, everyone who goes to the stadium has fun, guest teams and supporters are impressed, I understand what you mean but honestly i think you could get a little bit over that. I agree with you that the ultras in curva sud look a little afraid of doing the things they used to, but i wouldn't complain too much. Everyone is having fun and you can see the passion and excitement in everyone's eyes.
What would be disrespectful in supporting your home team more?
I cannot and will not get over that as atmosphere in European stadiums is decreasing and every time I see images like this of Juve currently, it looks really sad.

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That one sounds nice though, even if only thanks to being done from inside the Curva.

no problems for Juventus stadium with snowfalls :)

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players are paid to play whatever the meteo but spectators of the first row pay a seats where snow fall :ohno:

I'm happy to have an arena coming here because it is unaceeptable to go a match to be bother by snow as spectator

well spectators were reported to be happy, everything was fine yesterday, i'm happy Juventus didn't waste millions of euro to build a roof.

players are paid to play whatever the meteo but spectators of the first row pay a seats where snow fall :ohno:

I'm happy to have an arena coming here because it is unaceeptable to go a match to be bother by snow as spectator
This guy must be the biggest idiot. If you're afraid of snow or rain, go to basketball, handball or other indoor sport activity.
But again you are trying to find anything you can, just to complain or show how your "glorious" Lille has some kind of advantage over Juve. :lol:
Juve >>>>>> Lille
Juve Arena >>>>>> Lille stadium

This guy must be the biggest idiot.

Yourself!


Juve >>>>>> Lille
Ok with that :)


Juve Arena >>>>>> Lille stadium

:lol: :lol: :lol:

i rectify: Lille Arena>>>>>>> juve stadium

Accept it one time forever:
-50k vs 42k
-retractable roof vs no retractable roof (choice of your club no problem))

But whatever insulting you are i recognize juve did great & well by building this new stadium that honours Italy :)

Yourself!



Ok with that :)




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i rectify: Lille Arena>>>>>>> juve stadium

Accept it one time forever:
-50k vs 42k
-retractable roof vs no retractable roof (choice of your club no problem))

But whatever insulting you are i recognize juve did great & well by building this new stadium that honours Italy :)
However. Learn English dumbass.
Your 50k will be deserted for most of the games. Just wait and you'll see. For silly club like Lille 25k stadium should be maximum.

i don't see the need for this flame, guys. the difference between juventus stadium and a stadium built for an international competition is quite clear to me.

i don't see the need for this flame, guys. the difference between juventus stadium and a stadium built for an international competition is quite clear to me.
I know, but this Axelfaggot is really annoying

In italian i would say "vaf***** but won't copy a guy like you :)

Come on lille stadium thread to deal with this ok?

Back to juve stadium in a polite way :ohno:

I just say that a lot of stadiums event recent have this problem of not covering the first row of seats

In italian i would say "vaf***** but won't copy a guy like you :)

Come on lille stadium thread to deal with this ok?

Back to juve stadium in a polite way :ohno:

I just say that a lot of stadium events recently have this problem of not covering the first row of seats
Fixed. You should pay me for these kinds of lessons.
I don't care about Lille stadium, so why would I go there?
Forza Juveeeeee

I think he meant "even recent ones". anyway, the first rows are indeed covered by the roof, of course it can rain there if there's wind. But for istance this is probably the first match with some sort of precipitation, hence it is definitely not worth building an expensive rectractable roof, which would have sent construction costs up and would also have affected the design of the stadium, which to me is unique and amazing this way. No one, and i repeat no one, is unhappy with not having a rectractable roof.

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I'm happy to have an arena coming here because it is unaceeptable to go a match to be bother by snow as spectator
Yes, because we civilised people of the 21st century never experienced such attrocities as rain- or snowfall. Grrr.

No one, and i repeat no one, is unhappy with not having a rectractable roof.
Honestly, are you doing surveys after every game? You seem to know everyone's moods whereas I happen to know Juve supporters who are bitterly unhappy with this stadium and with how things are going about atmosphere and I'm very sure you'll dismiss their opinions with another "everyone". You cannot stand for everyone, as simple as that.

I think he meant "even recent ones". anyway, the first rows are indeed covered by the roof, of course it can rain there if there's wind. But for istance this is probably the first match with some sort of precipitation, hence it is definitely not worth building an expensive rectractable roof, which would have sent construction costs up and would also have affected the design of the stadium, which to me is unique and amazing this way. No one, and i repeat no one, is unhappy with not having a rectractable roof.


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Who would know what he meant. He talks gibberish most of the time. The guy just can't stand Juve and the only reason he comes here is to talk utter bs.
I would like to know what Mrs. Sissy and Curva Nord think about the stadium and what is general opinion from fans in Turin. For me, the stadium has beautiful design, excellent acoustic, maybe capacity should have been bigger but I heard that it can be expanded.

Compared to the other stadiums in Italy, which are reputed for being old and uncomfortable, i must recognize that this one is good stadium, in which sight-lines are optimal for the spectators.
Owning a stadium means to have access to a plenty of different revenues, what is the case of Juventus Football Club thanks to this stadium. However, if i compare the Juventus stadium to other ones build in the same period and with the same capacity, i must admit i do not like it very much. I find it rather anonymous. For example, for me the stadiums recently built in Poland and Ukraine for Euro 2012 have a more interesting design.

Who would know what he meant. He talks gibberish most of the time. The guy just can't stand Juve and the only reason he comes here is to talk utter bs.
I would like to know what Mrs. Sissy and Curva Nord think about the stadium and what is general opinion from fans in Turin. For me, the stadium has beautiful design, excellent acoustic, maybe capacity should have been bigger but I heard that it can be expanded.

let's say that from the beginning many of us said that a stadium of 41,500 capacity isn't enought for juventus....

we know our average attendence but we aren't a team which can't fill more....infact i'm pretty certain that as of these excellent results till now at least 45k-50k would have been filled....let's also remember that at an ammount of home supporters as uefa rules you have to increase away seats....& currently we have 2,500 so they would go at least 5k if you pass the 50-55k....

said that for now it is the best & probably the least problem to be solved....we don't have competition as stadiums in italy....so were good like this....

let's also remember that with tessera & bad season many of juventus fans don't go to stadium....i personally know some that did'nt even pay for pay tv mainly for that reason....

in short words there are still fans who are sceptical & need to be convinced or lured again....:nuts:

Compared to the other stadiums in Italy, which are reputed for being old and uncomfortable, i must recognize that this one is good stadium, in which sight-lines are optimal for the spectators.
Owning a stadium means to have access to a plenty of different revenues, what is the case of Juventus Football Club thanks to this stadium. However, if i compare the Juventus stadium to other ones build in the same period and with the same capacity, i must admit i do not like it very much. I find it rather anonymous. For example, for me the stadiums recently built in Poland and Ukraine for Euro 2012 have a more interesting design.

you can't compare that sort of stadium with ones who are built by clubs especially our where we don't have strong bonds with arab powers or other powers....

were at the beginning in italy....as i consider this stadium as german ones not english because there almost the same....

emirates stadium cost & allianz arena are respectively 280-380 millioni euros of which consists arab sponsor & two squads of the german one where even the national team play so in one way or another they shared the burden....

shengen stadium cost 600-800 million euros where emirates one seems a nugget....immagine ours....

in short terms the more money you have the more choices & ideas you can have....:ohno:

Who would know what he meant. He talks gibberish most of the time. The guy just can't stand Juve and the only reason he comes here is to talk utter bs.
I would like to know what Mrs. Sissy and Curva Nord think about the stadium and what is general opinion from fans in Turin. For me, the stadium has beautiful design, excellent acoustic, maybe capacity should have been bigger but I heard that it can be expanded.

probably new stadiums of the other teams which have a good attendence will make in one shot 60k stadiums....that is the most number in italy in my personal opinion & 70k maximun for a stadium to be called safe & football stadium....for a club because for a national teams it's different story....

speaking of right number german stadiums are the best were they bring fans first than money....65k-70k was the best thing for them apart from the beautiful exterior design....

right now were in general are happy & we could be seen as youngsters where they just saw a toy that just entered there country....

we still need to get used to it & italy in general will need at least 2-4 years more....

50k lille well i did'nt see their stadium but if it's nice good for them....having 50k doesn't mean they're better than us....anfield has 45k & even if i heard they're going to build a new one they still have one the best stadiums & atmosphere around the whole world....

so let's wait were in the first year....look how many years for the other countries to build new stadiums....

probably in 10-15 years we'll build a new stadium this time with far much better resources & better ideas especially if this stadium can't be bigger....

it's long time i heard that this stadium can have another tear so the capacity would go up to 50k-55k....i don't know what costs would involve of if first of all the second tear would be increased....& as far as i know the the roof is temporary....hence including the cables....that's what was said till now....

for those who say you can't play football in snow or rain....open football has to be played open....

playing in snow if it's possibile & the management in charge in capable of doing so is fantastic....were open to all weathers & if in case the weather should be much to control the game would be postponed....

playing football rugby baseball cricket & other open field sports isn't acceptable sorry....

but in the case it becomes it becomes official by rule probably if italy hosts or builds new stadiums for olimpics o competitions they would be far costly than those polish ones....

the bigger the countries the biggers the costs hence nicer the stadiums or arenas if built well & with sense....

overall i'm happy with this stadium & i'm pretty sure that at least 45-50k will be our stadium....

the shape isn't normal theres the resemblance of the alps & the crown as the queen of italy....the roof can seem to much simple but from inside & how the spotlights & rest of lights is exhibited....i like it because from inside it seems like a metal fortress even from facade outside it's not normal....

120 million stadium cost with 3/4 already paid & from next beginning of next season the possibility of gaining every year 40-50(41,500k capacity stadium) million euros if not more including merchandising museum visits new areas is fantastic.... :)

then with real sponsors for a club like juventus & off we go....this year we were at dubai probably looking at italy fly emirates is already at milan so most probably if we will have that sort of sponsor it would be qatar foundation....

you can't compare that sort of stadium with ones who are built by clubs especially our where we don't have strong bonds with arab powers or other powers....

were at the beginning in italy....as i consider this stadium as german ones not english because there almost the same....

emirates stadium cost & allianz arena are respectively 280-380 millioni euros of which consists arab sponsor & two squads of the german one where even the national team play so in one way or another they shared the burden....

shengen stadium cost 600-800 million euros where emirates one seems a nugget....immagine ours....

in short terms the more money you have the more choices & ideas you can have....:ohno:

I mentioned the polish and the ukrainian stadiums built for EURO 2012 just to do a more appropriated comparison. I referred to the PGE Arena Dansk and the City Stadiums of Wroclow and Poznan wich are similar to Juventus stadium in size and year of construction.
If you say "the more money you have the more choices and idea you can have", do i have to intend that the stadium was built in a cheap way?

I mentioned the polish and the ukrainian stadiums built for EURO 2012 just to do a more appropriated comparison. I referred to the PGE Arena Dansk and the City Stadiums of Wroclow and Poznan wich are similar to Juventus stadium in size and year of construction.
If you say "the more money you have the more choices and idea you can have", do i have to intend that the stadium was built in a cheap way?

it was built in a hurry of building a better steady future....even ahead of fair play....it is'nt cheap but it is'nt allianz arena either....

& i know what you mean stadiums which are built for world cup or euro are better because are open to any idea....

we were limited in a sort of way including money....

saying that every year there will be some changes to improve....but as i said a 380 millioni euros stadium the only problems are 2....when you finish to pay & where to build things & stuff not what to cut for leaving costs low....:cheers:

What would be disrespectful in supporting your home team more?
I cannot and will not get over that as atmosphere in European stadiums is decreasing and every time I see images like this of Juve currently, it looks really sad.


Honestly, are you doing surveys after every game? You seem to know everyone's moods whereas I happen to know Juve supporters who are bitterly unhappy with this stadium and with how things are going about atmosphere and I'm very sure you'll dismiss their opinions with another "everyone". You cannot stand for everyone, as simple as that.

There are always a few fans which aren't content, but it seems that they are in the minority in Juventus. From what I can see, the Juve fans seem content with the stadium and the players are responding well to their support.

I like it how clubs are getting rid of that 'ultra/hooligan' tag and becoming more open for other supporters of the club who want to support in a more civilised way, but were put off before by the old supporting style.

I mentioned the polish and the ukrainian stadiums built for EURO 2012 just to do a more appropriated comparison. I referred to the PGE Arena Dansk and the City Stadiums of Wroclow and Poznan wich are similar to Juventus stadium in size and year of construction.
If you say "the more money you have the more choices and idea you can have", do i have to intend that the stadium was built in a cheap way?

You shouldn't compare stadia built for an international competition, like EURO 2012, financed by massive public funds, to a stadium autonomously built by a club in the context of the Italian legal chaos, and by spending way less than
200mil euro for a huge area of intervention.
Nevertheless, do we want to make a comparison? Shall we?
POZNAN: this stadium is considered to be the biggest fail up there. Three levels, bad materials, looks fucking heavy from outside, facilities aren't completed yet.
Gdansk: this one looks gorgeous from outside, but the interiors? The distance between the stands and the goals is bigger than in Turin, and they put nets behind the goals. The interior looks lame to me and seems less functional tastes? Well of course.
WROCLAW: tastes, I hate how it looks from outside. find our stadium better because of the quality of facilities and finitures. Plus our stands are way steeper.

I think it's absurd to say juventus stadium looks boring, the two tiles outside, the outside cladding, the design of seats, the outside hall of fame are all peculiar things. Maybe you should take a look on previous pics back on this thread :)

@mrs sissy-> i read you and you talk about emiratis power that finance stadiums.german stadiums were built without this power (frankfurt,velstins arena,dusseldorf) stadiums which are more impressing than juve one imo.

Emirates stadium in london sponsored by the company? And? they are attractive enough to make such deal in london.

What about the owner of juventus, Aren't they rich? All those past years juve was and still the possession of one of the richest family of italy. do you think all the clubs in Europe have such rich family in their support?

Here in Lille we have the mulliez (owner of Auchan) and one of the richest family of France. But Losc doesn't belong to them.

What i mean is if Agnelli weren't owner of juve you would probably never see thi sstadium now. Juve is not a poor club but a powerful club much more a lot in Europe.
Then you cannot say that polish or german stadiums are helped with government or national team matches.

Juve should never complaint because they are rich long before a lot of clubs in Europe. You forgot to mention this ;)

I catched yesterday on c+ a report concerning juve stadium :)
Please up the sound to a high level because it comes from my camera phone and the sound of Tv is weak:

xo655b

You shouldn't compare stadia built for an international competition, like EURO 2012, financed by massive public funds, to a stadium autonomously built by a club in the context of the Italian legal chaos, and by spending way less than
200mil euro for a huge area of intervention.
Nevertheless, do we want to make a comparison? Shall we?
POZNAN: this stadium is considered to be the biggest fail up there. Three levels, bad materials, looks fucking heavy from outside, facilities aren't completed yet.
Gdansk: this one looks gorgeous from outside, but the interiors? The distance between the stands and the goals is bigger than in Turin, and they put nets behind the goals. The interior looks lame to me and seems less functional tastes? Well of course.
WROCLAW: tastes, I hate how it looks from outside. find our stadium better because of the quality of facilities and finitures. Plus our stands are way steeper.

I think it's absurd to say juventus stadium looks boring, the two tiles outside, the outside cladding, the design of seats, the outside hall of fame are all peculiar things. Maybe you should take a look on previous pics back on this thread :)

I have never said that "this stadium looks boring" as you hint. I only expressed an opinion: among all the stadiums built in the same years and with the same capacity, the one i like less is Juventus stadium. I imagine i can still choose what i like.
Furthermore, i don't completely agree with you when you state that it isn't possible to compare venues built with public funds with private ones.
The aim to own a stadium for is to be able to increase the incomes: thus, economizing during the phase of construction isn't the best manner to create something which can provide more revenues.

@mrs sissy-> i read you and you talk about emiratis power that finance stadiums.german stadiums were built without this power (frankfurt,velstins arena,dusseldorf) stadiums which are more impressing than juve one imo.

Emirates stadium in london sponsored by the company? And? they are attractive enough to make such deal in london.

What about the owner of juventus, Aren't they rich? All those past years juve was and still the possession of one of the richest family of italy. do you think all the clubs in Europe have such rich family in their support?

Here in Lille we have the mulliez (owner of Auchan) and one of the richest family of France. But Losc doesn't belong to them.

What i mean is if Agnelli weren't owner of juve you would probably never see thi sstadium now. Juve is not a poor club but a powerful club much more a lot in Europe.
Then you cannot say that polish or german stadiums are helped with government or national team matches.

Juve should never complaint because they are rich long before a lot of clubs in Europe. You forgot to mention this ;)

Furthermore, as far as i know, the Agnelli family in Italy, and in Turin in particular, is really an economical and political power: they are one of richest italian family, but, above all, they have been for decades a powerful lobbying corporation with many relations with italian politicians.

i don't understand why some people try to minimize our stadium. We DON'T have an european or a world cup competition in order to spend $$$$$$$$$$$$$, we are listed on the stock market so we can't risk failures spending so much money especially at this time because of the economical crisis, if you don't know these things shut up.. The stadium is still beautiful even if it can be improved of course.

Well Don Homer, as to The Agnelli Family, Paulitos already answered you. But The thing is, the stadium looks poor only in your opinion. it is indeed a great investment and the +15k spectators per game increase ( stadium has always been sold out apart from one match, and last season the team was 7th in the league) is an evidence of the good business case. you should maybe question the capacity, which could have been bigger. But this stadium is generally better than the other stadia of similar capacity when it comes to facilities, services, restaurants, and so on. the Hall of Fame is an unique initiative and was a big success. Sky boxes were all sold. The big shopping mall is doing good. Stadium tour was a success, with 10k visitors in one month. there have been no incidents with supporters so far. The two big pennons have become a landmark in turin's skyline. In a couple of months the new Juventus museum will be opened inside the stadium. Shall I continue?

Well Don Homer, as to The Agnelli Family, Paulitos already answered you. But The thing is, the stadium looks poor only in your opinion. it is indeed a great investment and the +15k spectators per game increase ( stadium has always been sold out apart from one match, and last season the team was 7th in the league) is an evidence of the good business case. you should maybe question the capacity, which could have been bigger. But this stadium is generally better than the other stadia of similar capacity when it comes to facilities, services, restaurants, and so on. the Hall of Fame is an unique initiative and was a big success. Sky boxes were all sold. The big shopping mall is doing good. Stadium tour was a success, with 10k visitors in one month. there have been no incidents with supporters so far. The two big pennons have become a landmark in turin's skyline. In a couple of months the new Juventus museum will be opened inside the stadium. Shall I continue?

Oh my god, don't continue, PLEASE!

I was just kidding.
I have never stated that Juventus stadium is an ugly stadium; i have only written that i don't like it. But, as you emphasized, this is only an opinion of mine. Thus, i am free of choosing what i like or i don't like. However, i try to be objective, and, although i prefer other recently build stadiums rather than this one, i have never doubted that owning a new stadium can make increase the Juventus incomes, what is one of the principal aims when you build this kind of facilities you mentioned.
In fact, in my first comment about the Juventus stadium, i pointed out that, since the italian stadiums are reputed to be uncomfortable and outdated, this new and modern stadium is a good facility with positive economical aftermath. Albeit i say that i do not like this stadium, this stadium provides all that it was build for,
But it seems that for someone disagreeing with the fact that this stadium has to be considered the best in the world is a hideous guilt.

it was a misunderstanding then, sorry if i was harsh. I don't think this stadium is the best in the world, it can be improved in many ways. The ropes at the corner for istance, i hope they'll be removed in the future.
I am maybe overreacting to an attitude by some users of criticising everything of this stadium, sometimes without a clue.
You are of course free of having your own opinions on the design of the stadium, maybe we were also confusing in naming the costs as a reply to your comment on the design, which is not the main point.
Nevertheless, considering Juventus Stadium the one with the worst design among all the new stadia of similar capacity built recently is probably a little bit too severe. I actually find its design quite original and accurate in many parts, if you consider the seats, the pennons, the lighting (quite classy i would say), and the roof. If you could further explain why you don't like it, and what in particular could have been done better, if compared to the stadia you named, you're most welcome! :)

I catched yesterday on c+ a report concerning juve stadium :)
Please up the sound to a high level because it comes from my camera phone and the sound of Tv is weak:

xo655b

thank you for the video, very interesting :)

it was a misunderstanding then, sorry if i was harsh. I don't think this stadium is the best in the world, it can be improved in many ways. The ropes at the corner for istance, i hope they'll be removed in the future.
I am maybe overreacting to an attitude by some users of criticising everything of this stadium, sometimes without a clue.
You are of course free of having your own opinions on the design of the stadium, maybe we were also confusing in naming the costs as a reply to your comment on the design, which is not the main point.
Nevertheless, considering Juventus Stadium the one with the worst design among all the new stadia of similar capacity built recently is probably a little bit too severe. I actually find its design quite original and accurate in many parts, if you consider the seats, the pennons, the lighting (quite classy i would say), and the roof. If you could further explain why you don't like it, and what in particular could have been done better, if compared to the stadia you named, you're most welcome! :)

It's a simple question of taste.
Juventus stadium architect wanted to express an idea of modernity but the result is eventually almost anonymous, in my opinion - only in my opinion. Indeed, for example, Arena Lviv, whose design is apparently poorer, being a complex very simple and linear, seems to be a better solution to my eyes.

The arena in Lviv is one of my favourites!

Juventus stadium again: first row
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from outside
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This is one of my favorite italian stadiums: the Nereo Rocco Stadium in Trieste.


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were at the beginning in italy....as i consider this stadium as german ones not english because there almost the same....

Spot On :) Respect

It's a simple question of taste.
Juventus stadium architect wanted to express an idea of modernity but the result is eventually almost anonymous, in my opinion - only in my opinion. Indeed, for example, Arena Lviv, whose design is apparently poorer, being a complex very simple and linear, seems to be a better solution to my eyes.
Not only yours, I have the exact same opinion.

I understand some Juventus supporters don't handle criticism too well, but that design is and will remain uninspiring (too me: dull, insipid) as more and more new stadiums will overshadow it in comming years with France being next right after the current wave in Poland and Ukraine (of course most of Euro 2012 were built for public money and are overpaid, but wasn't Italy applying for the same tournament? Go blame UEFA Italy didn't win for Juve to have its ground subsidied).

Juventus built a stadium that is great value for money as the price was really low for a venue of that class. So what? That does NOT entitle any of Juve fans to say "shut up" just because someone doesn't like their ground. To cut long story short: "We didn't have money for something others are building so you cannot say bad things about us" - is pretty much the message I see Paulitos has. Well, everyone can say bad things about this stadium if they feel so. Look at the roof structure. It is the ONLY distinctive element of this stadium and most important element of the design and what happened? It wasn't designed right and needs steel support obstructing view. That is a huge flaw, you have to deal with it.

We don't have to deal with tastes. You think it's insipid? Fair enough. Your own taste, not a fact. To me it looks classy and definitely original, it recalls the old Delle Alpi with the pennons which already became a landmark. The steepness of the stands is particular as well and so is the combination of seats. Opinions...
Ukrainian and polish stadia have dozens of defects that our stadium has not. Cables were a big mistake, but nobody's perfect. In terms of details I think it's a great stadium.

Nevertheless, let me add one more thing. Everyone's talking so much about financial fair play. Arsenal are still "paying" for their super expensive Emirates Stadium. Valencia got bankrupt while trying to build a new faraonic and oversized stadium. You know what the situation in Italy is, there's one thing called corporate sustainability that becomes of particular importance in this moment, especially in Italy. Juventus managed to build a stadium of this kind (which is in a very strict sense an extreme restructuration of the old delle Alpi) in a sustainable way, recycling materials and saving money, with a result that might not be liked by everyone, but is to no extent cheap. I think this should be recognized, it is not moral to spend more than 400mil euro for a stadium like the one in Warsaw. I do not blame UEFA, I'm happy our government doesn't have to waste money where the private sector should do it. Therefore of course the design is a matter of taste, but these considerations DO count when judging a stadium.
We didn't ask for compensations in terms of building houses or things like that, for instance. This means respecting the city, something that not every football club is familiar with.

Nevertheless, let me add one more thing. Everyone's talking so much about financial fair play. Arsenal are still "paying" for their super expensive Emirates Stadium.

Arsenal reimbursement is faster than initially scheduled. The stadium is the most rentable in Europe. :)

My surprise concerns the low cost of juve stadium. Only 120 million for a 42k seater??! :nuts:
How they managed this miracle?
In france a 25k seater such as MMArena Le mans costs 102 millions euros.

http://www.info-stades.fr/forum/ressources/image/thumb/2577

As said it's a partial refurbishment of the former Delle Alpi, some structures of the old stadium were integrated in the new one, the basement of the old stands is now the mixed area outside the stadium with some services and the walk of fame on the top of it. Plus, Juventus sold part of the external ground to Nordiconad, who built there the shopping mall. In fact, the actual cost of the stadium is around 170-180mil (can't remember right), but part of the investment was covered by selling to Nordiconad part of the area

ok :)
it's true by selling a ground you disminish the cost.
Then a club which can sell ground isn't a "poor" club.

Not only yours, I have the exact same opinion.

I understand some Juventus supporters don't handle criticism too well, but that design is and will remain uninspiring (too me: dull, insipid) as more and more new stadiums will overshadow it in comming years with France being next right after the current wave in Poland and Ukraine (of course most of Euro 2012 were built for public money and are overpaid, but wasn't Italy applying for the same tournament? Go blame UEFA Italy didn't win for Juve to have its ground subsidied).

Juventus built a stadium that is great value for money as the price was really low for a venue of that class. So what? That does NOT entitle any of Juve fans to say "shut up" just because someone doesn't like their ground. To cut long story short: "We didn't have money for something others are building so you cannot say bad things about us" - is pretty much the message I see Paulitos has. Well, everyone can say bad things about this stadium if they feel so. Look at the roof structure. It is the ONLY distinctive element of this stadium and most important element of the design and what happened? It wasn't designed right and needs steel support obstructing view. That is a huge flaw, you have to deal with it.


i prefer our stadium than the ones in Ukraine and Poland, and not because i'm a Juve fan. Those stadiums have many defects just like Juventus stadium. Then the design is a matter of taste i'm agreed. The only distinctive element is not only the roof, no one has a walk of fame, you can like it or dislike it ok but it's another element, the area around the stadium is the biggest in Europe, Juve could build everything on that area for further revenues. and yes , i'm sorry to say that but even the cables for better or for worse are another distinctive element:cheers:

are you serious about those cables??? :nuts:
The worst element i've seen for a recent stadium

I agree they are terrible and i hope we get rid of them soon. But I wouldn't trade our two levels super steep stands for a stadium with no cables, for instance, to give you a clue about the scale of different aspects in my opinion

are you serious about those cables??? :nuts:
The worst element i've seen for a recent stadium

they have some charm i admit.

are you serious about those cables??? :nuts:
The worst element i've seen for a recent stadium

What cable??:nuts::nuts::nuts:

As said it's a partial refurbishment of the former Delle Alpi, some structures of the old stadium were integrated in the new one, the basement of the old stands is now the mixed area outside the stadium with some services and the walk of fame on the top of it. Plus, Juventus sold part of the external ground to Nordiconad, who built there the shopping mall. In fact, the actual cost of the stadium is around 170-180mil (can't remember right), but part of the investment was covered by selling to Nordiconad part of the area

One question, please.
When you state that the actual cost of the stadium is about 170-180 millions, do you mean the stadium altogether cost that amount, but Juventus spent only 120 millions because by selling the ground for the mall they saved about 60 millions?
Thus, without that sale, Juventus would have spent about 50% more?

What cable??:nuts::nuts::nuts:

Some steel cables which link the roof to the ground in the corners of the field because of certain design flaws of the roof, if i am not wrong.

One question, please.
When you state that the actual cost of the stadium is about 170-180 millions, do you mean the stadium altogether cost that amount, but Juventus spent only 120 millions because by selling the ground for the mall they saved about 60 millions?
Thus, without that sale, Juventus would have spent about 50% more?

No, sorry, my mistake. I got confused. :bash:

3 wonderful photos from the opening ceremony

http://www.cyrilalmeras.com/photos/nuit/feu-d-artifice/turin/IMG_8984699-inaugurazione-nuovo-stadio-juventus-bandiera-d-italia.jpg

http://www.cyrilalmeras.com/photos/nuit/feu-d-artifice/turin/IMG_8992900215-inauguration-new-stadium-juventus-turin.jpg

http://www.cyrilalmeras.com/photos/nuit/feu-d-artifice/turin/IMG_898976-juventus-football-club-spa-torino-1897.jpg

no one has a walk of fame, you can like it or dislike it ok but it's another element,
Actually, this has been done a number of times already at many major stadia. Not looking the same as in Juventus' case, but walks of fame as a way to get extra funds are nothing new. It was of course a very wise thing to make use of the vast radius of the old stadium and celebrate the legends + allow people to spend money for the sake of their own vanity.
Of course this adds to the ground's identity, but hard to call a distinctive element.

the video i posted but in better quality :)

http://www.canalplus.fr/c-sport/c-football/c-italie/pid3517-c-videos-serie-a.html?vid=583904

Won't be available for everybody, I live in France so I can watch it, but there are restrictions outside france.

They're sayin in the video that the stadium was built thanks to Blanc :lol:

And that Conte had only 3 months of coaching experience before going to juve :facepalm:

No restrictions here... ;)
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be careful. big brothers is watching you :lol:

ACTA is a danger.

be careful. big brothers is watching you :lol:

ACTA is a danger.
Not my problem, I didn't upload it... :)

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Juventus Stadium by plcosco86 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/plcosco/sets/72157628348607853/)

i love executive seats :)
i don't see them in another stadiums only juve has them?

I don't know^^

I really like the giant Juventus emblem and the classy floodlights. One easy thing to be done is covering the concrete parapet of the second level with some elegant black cladding.

Great stadium just beautiful

another precision please:

Dell alpi was a public stadium. Juve has built this new one on dell alpi old ground. Juve then has tookover the dell alpi ground by selling Communale ground?

How can you make a private stadium on a public ground? City of turin sold it or gave it?

Juventus bought the ground of the old Delle Alpi in 2003. Torino was then supposed to buy and own the Comunale, but Torino cracked in 2005, and the reconstruction of the Comunale (just to become "the Olimpico" for the Winter Olympics in 2006) was carried out by the city of turin, which still owns the stadium. Long story. The important thing is that Juventus owns the ground of the Delle Alpi since 2003

another precision please:

Dell alpi was a public stadium. Juve has built this new one on dell alpi old ground. Juve then has tookover the dell alpi ground by selling Communale ground?

How can you make a private stadium on a public ground? City of turin sold it or gave it?


the city hall gave it for 25M euro back then on 2003 and Juventus commit itself to restore the entire area of Continassa around the stadium (fix the streets, sidewalkers, clean up all the dirty , green areas etc.)

ok thanks

What is the random piece of glass wall in the middle of the stand behind the goal? It doesnt make any sense to me...

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7023/6483171135_d4fc9d8757_b.jpg

you prefer ugly traditional barriers?

What is the random piece of glass wall in the middle of the stand behind the goal? It doesnt make any sense to me...

It's because the part of the stand below this glass railing is retractable/removable, here is a pic on which we can see this "truck entrance" (I guess) more clearly:

http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/7682/michelfranois03.jpg


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PS: As usual our dear Axel ^^ isn't able to understand/read entirely a simple English sentence :laugh:

I was going to say the same :lol: Axel juste take the time to read the posts, and try to understand them.
For the questions you're asking, I've answered to all of them previously on info-stades (with another pseudo) you'll find everything you're looking for ;). And It would be easier for you to understand (I hope :lol: ) as it is written in french.

And btw, I'm still astonished by how ignorant are the french medias about Italian Football. At every debate, report, article or match you hear many many mistakes and misleading informations. I mean even canal which is broadcasting serie A games makes a lot of mistakes. I was listening to l'afterfoot on RMC radio a couple of days, and Mengo & Riolo who are supposed to be the serieA specialists were talking about Moggi buying matches and corrupting referees. I mean How can they still say that! Even Moggi haters recognize that calciopoli (well...) was not about corruption and buying matches.
Worse, they were saying that juve shouldn't had won the title in 2003-2004 cause they have robbed it...A quick search on google and everybody can find that that year it was Milan that did win the scudetto.
That's completely ridiculous. These people are paid to give a trusted information and they're less informed than the average fans!
As a result you find many silly people on the net repeating what they've heard on radio or tv...

Juventus Stadium by plcosco86 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/plcosco/sets/72157628348607853/)

Our beautiful stadium :)

@secrane-> i disagree: juve cheated and it has been well punished. No need to back on this.
But another teams should have been punished too i recognize it

@secrane-> i disagree: juve cheated and it has been well punished. No need to back on this.
But another teams should have been punished too i recognize it
There were no evidence for that. You can't draw a conclusion based on hearsay information. Even Italian investigator explained few months ago that the calciopopolli was a farce. I read the official verdict and there isn't a single word of cheating like fixing or buying games.

Then moggi is an angel and should be reintegrated by respect in the world of football... :|

Sorry i can't imagine such things sorry.

Once again Axel read my post correctly. I'm not debating on cheated or not, I'm telling you that Mengo & Riolo are misleading people because they're making many mistakes. Calciopoli was not about corruption and buying matches, no money was involved in it.
And if you still don't understand, this might help :
http://www.calciomio.fr/chez-rmc-on-ne-lit-pas-souvent-calciomio_123725
http://www.calciomio.fr/calciopoli-tout-ce-que-vous-ne-savez-pas_117526
The website is a non partisan website (the second article is written by a milanista) and the only trustable french media about calcio.

And we're not talking about all the other mistakes: scudetto 2004 won by juve (cheating they said :lol: ), Conte had only 3 months as a coach before going to juve, juventus stadium was built thanks to JC blanc, SerieA is not anymore a major championship...

Then moggi is an angel and should be reintegrated by respect in the world of football... :|

Sorry i can't imagine such things sorry.
Then don't imagine. Juve has all facts on their side, and it's just matter of a time before titles come home. You should inform yourself more if you want to debate. It's not enough to say Juve cheated. You need to explain it further and back it up with evidence. If you read the verdict you will not find a single word of cheating. There were no fixed games, bribes or something like that. The trial was politically motivated with it's only purpose to stop our domination which could have lasted another 10 years. Players like C. Ronaldo, Gerrard, etc were our main targets prior to scandal.

Hello. I need to know the capacity of each sectors in Juventus Stadium. Can you help mi in this?

hi all :)
i'm impressed that lot of information about juve here, especially about new stadium of Juventus Arena and the supporters

thank for sharing :)

Forza Juve

It's because the part of the stand below this glass railing is retractable/removable, here is a pic on which we can see this "truck entrance" (I guess) more clearly:

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PS: As usual our dear Axel ^^ isn't able to understand/read entirely a simple English sentence :laugh:

Thanks for clearing it up, its a nice way to add more seats instead of a big hole found in many stadiums.

Outputs of the reasons of Calciopoli: There was no alteration in the outcome of the Championship of Serie A 2005!


Exit the written judgment of Naples - Are finally published the written judgment of Naples. From an initial reading of 561 pages shows that the decisive factor that led the board chaired by Dr. Casoria to emit a staggering 8 November verdict was "the use of foreign phone cards of which was procured by the availability Moggi nominators and referees." Other factors considered are convincing encounters with designators outside institutional settings (emerged from eavesdropping) and "the continuous and prolonged conversation...that actually can configure the message transmission potential for a push designators, and sometimes also the referees, move in certain directions than in others. " The judgment explains that "the relationship of friendly arbitrators extensively with Moggi, who does not lose value - reads the judgment - just because the documents show the relationship of other umpires and even accused the defendants of any of the arbitrators, as De Santis, equally friendly sports executives GP interests other than those of Moggi, for example, Meani, could well constitute the existence of the association. " It also cited "the uninhibited relationship with representatives of the FIGC", exemplified by a phone call with former FIGC president Franco Carraro which shows "the invasiveness in high level technical solutions", in relation to National and choices of ct. Lippi. Even the 'liberated Paparesta' figure as cogent evidence of guilt Moggi: "Even if it was not true what the scoffer saying Moggi went around, and by phone, that you have closed the referee in the locker room ... even Paparesta be evaluated Paparesta reaction to what had always been a protest outside the extent of Moggi for mistakes of the referee, behavior of non-insertion that is raging in the game record, and this reaction should be interpreted as an effect of awe towards the person. "
This has altered the results? There is not evidence of a crime issue, indeed dangerous, because the process does not "really has procured data confirm the effect of altering the outcome of the 2004-2005 football championship for the benefit of this or that contender, but prove sufficient in the words of intercepted conversations, in combination with the contact telephone cloaked in secrecy represented by the use of foreign cards, to integrate the details of the crime "of sporting fraud that is reminiscent of the judges, is " a crime of attempt. "
Disqualified the thesis of the draw rigged with a tirade of ears to the prosecutor who is "incomprehensibly" stubborn "to demand that opened the ball, balls and other special faded."
It also stresses that the defense was "in fact very least hindered dall'abnorme number of intercepted telephone calls, over 170 thousand, and the method used for their use is inextricably linked to any method of initiation and progress of the investigations by conjecture"; Notwithstanding it the process, "made with the use of massive doses of interceptions," has not "suffered total defeat in the collision with the trial" would not have emerged as "contrary to what the defenses of the choir, made up of total annihilation of brought evidence of telephone speech. "
Now the ball is in defense of the condemned, already working to dismantle the ruling in view of the appeal process.

The season of 2004/2005 was regular...it looks like Minority Report...really incredible.

Outputs of the reasons of Calciopoli: There was no alteration in the outcome of the Championship of Serie A 2005!



The season of 2004/2005 was regular...it looks like Minority Report...really incredible.
What are your predictions on the final outcome? I mean after Moggi finishes his appeals. He has good chances to beat those allegations but as I figured out in Italy you're never to sure. I've read somewhere that Swiss sim card allegations were dismantled on some other trials. We are already acquitted of doing anything wrong by the same court so it only remains question of time before we get our titles. What do you think of our chances?

P.S. Do you have any pictures from the last game? I always look forward to them.:)

can anyone give me nice short phrases that a juventus fan would use in italian?
like maybe what the supporters chant when they are jumping in the stadium

The most common is probably "aleee, aleee, aleee la juve aleee, forza juve, vincerai, forza non mollare mai!"

Does anyone have any pictures of inside the stadium, with fans and players. In a large resolution like 1280x768. The ones I've found in here are too small and google mostly shows Fifa pictures... Cheers

“What bothered me? As far as style and elegance are concerned, I don’t think I need to take lessons. Everyone has their own way of doing and being.

“Ranieri’s words? He finally says something that continues the discussion. He says that he hopes those who raise their voice don’t influence the referee designators.

“But then, Ranieri is afraid then that there are influences, so I then ask, are they there or not? His answer leaves the door open.”

What does conte mean exactly? is this a reference to calciopoli?

Congrats Juve with this lovely Arena.

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Are you talking about Conte's reference to our lack of penalty decisions this season being somehow linked to the scandal. I thought that he was only showing some frustration to our number of drawn games. The penalty decisions could cost us. We have not shaken off Milan. I think that Conte was just expressing frustration. Having said all this, at the beginning of the season I would have settled for second place and an automatic C.L spot.Let's hope we can go on and win it.
Juvemikey

A shame!!
How they were lucky!

Moggi ghost still in Italian football.
I understand well why juve is hard to beat also in this new stadium...

A shame!!
How they were lucky!

Moggi ghost still in Italian football.I understand well why juve is hard to beat also in this new stadium...

:nuts: :nuts: :nuts:

The pitch say 1-1. Stop. And there was also a regular goal of Matri, stopped because of the off-side...

stop to lie!

All the TVs showed the legal goal of muntari!!!
Juve is always lucky due to referees! :bash:

guys. please. Just stadium. You are free to open a new thread at the skybar section

stop to lie!

All the TVs showed the legal goal of muntari!!!
Juve is always lucky due to referees! :bash:

Do not be so rushed to jump from the palm my friend.. maybe something dark is obstructing your view:| . Milan was often lucky with the referees. You are subjective because many of your compatriots play for Milan

sercan-> ok sorry :)
stop for me of this off topic subject.

What happened to Delle Alpi Stadium? Was it destroyed to gave place to this new Juve Arena? It was a really mythic stadium, but at least I see that those standards for the flags still remain from Delle Alpi...

Any updates on the naming rights?

What happened to Delle Alpi Stadium? Was it destroyed to gave place to this new Juve Arena? It was a really mythic stadium, but at least I see that those standards for the flags still remain from Delle Alpi...

Juventus Stadium was build exactly were Delle Alpi used to be, so yes it was "destroyed" but I'm sure that most fans in Torino don't miss it at all, because the sidelines were terrible for football, and even if it was only 20 years old when demolished, was already aging terribly.

Juventus Stadium was build exactly were Delle Alpi used to be, so yes it was "destroyed" but I'm sure that most fans in Torino don't miss it at all, because the sidelines were terrible for football, and even if it was only 20 years old when demolished, was already aging terribly.

Just 20 years after its building, it was demolished? What a pitful example of bad architecture on a Stadium! :ohno:
Well, but the former stadium could host more spectators, this new Juventus Stadium is with a reduced capacity, 41,000 seats doesn't reflect the real dimension of Juve in Italian football, despite its famous corruption scandal... Juventus Stadium results in a MUCH BETTER visual impact than the former one! :)

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the Juventus Area
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Juventus Stadium was build exactly were Delle Alpi used to be, so yes it was "destroyed" but I'm sure that most fans in Torino don't miss it at all, because the sidelines were terrible for football, and even if it was only 20 years old when demolished, was already aging terribly.

20 years old is aging terribly? Was it made from dried mud and straw? I have t-shirts older than 20 years old.

20 years old is aging terribly? Was it made from dried mud and straw? I have t-shirts older than 20 years old.

The Delle Alpi stadium wasn't good for playing soccer... Then was more suitable demolish Delle Alpi and build a new stadium made just for the soccer spectacle... :)

The avg attendance went down in the last 2 years of Delle Alpi, not like it was perfect in the previous seasons.
Plus, I don't think Delle Alpi really hosted any important sportive non-football events in it's history, was a waste tbh.

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the Juventus Area
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Interestingly enough, Google Maps still has the old Delle Alpi on their satellite images.:ohno:

probable Final UEFA Europa League 2014 in to Juventus Stadium

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Frustrated at tonight's result. Still satisfied if we get automatic C.L spot. Don't know why Matri and Quags seem so much out of favour. As for Conte's dismissal for having a go at the fourth official it was coming from well before his outburst. He needs to calm down a bit. Can't see us knocking Milan off top spot. Our only hope is that we have the likes of Roma/Lazio and Napoli at home. Hope that Udinese do us a big favour when they play Milan.

Keep the faith,

ForzaJuve.:cheers:

Frustrated at tonight's result. Still satisfied if we get automatic C.L spot. Don't know why Matri and Quags seem so much out of favour. As for Conte's dismissal for having a go at the fourth official it was coming from well before his outburst. He needs to calm down a bit. Can't see us knocking Milan off top spot. Our only hope is that we have the likes of Roma/Lazio and Napoli at home. Hope that Udinese do us a big favour when they play Milan.

Keep the faith,

ForzaJuve.:cheers:

Getting concerned now. A media blackout because decisions don't go our way. I admit that a lot of decisions have gone against us. However a media blackouts have never helped any team before particularly at this time of the season. It's been tried before in the EPL by Man.U, Chelsea and Arsenal over the past 15 years and has never produced anything other than ridicule.
We have now put ourselves under real pressure. If the decisions and missed chances are of really great concern for our president/coach they should be discussed behind closed doors.Up to now we have had reasonably good relations with the media this season. That is finnished now.They will ridicule us for every draw we get and will really hammer us if we loose.We have now given Milan,Lazio and Udinese the impression that our season is falling apart.
I hope that in the dressing room that ADP and Gigi are encouraging the strikers to keep creating chances, but if asked would think that neither would agree to a media blackout.
Our strikers should feel under pressure because we have dominated many games without scoring. I hope that Conte already has spoken to his strikers because after this many games the statistics don't lie.
I am still sure that we can qualify for the C.L but we need to stay calm to do so. Keep the faith,

Forza Juve.:bash:

I think the people in Torino did a fantastic job. It's excellent to see the old Delle Alpi demolished and a new stadium was built.

And I agree: the stadium looked old although it was only 20 years old. I don't know what people were thinking in the eighties, when they decided what to build. Remembering what it looked like, when watching the Champions league in the nineties - already then it looked like it was there for ages...

I think the people in Torino did a fantastic job. It's excellent to see the old Delle Alpi demolished and a new stadium was built.

And I agree: the stadium looked old although it was only 20 years old. I don't know what people were thinking in the eighties, when they decided what to build. Remembering what it looked like, when watching the Champions league in the nineties - already then it looked like it was there for ages...

It got a bad press from the start. The running track did it no favours as we seemed a long way from the pitch. However, their were some games that had great atmospheres when playing champions league{ Madrid/ Man.U and Liverpool} as well as end of season games when winning the championship was possible. However, the new stadium is better. It is more inviting for fans and the wind does not blow so much.

Forza Juve.:banana:

Once again Axel read my post correctly. I'm not debating on cheated or not, I'm telling you that Mengo & Riolo are misleading people because they're making many mistakes. Calciopoli was not about corruption and buying matches, no money was involved in it.
And if you still don't understand, this might help :
http://www.calciomio.fr/chez-rmc-on-ne-lit-pas-souvent-calciomio_123725
http://www.calciomio.fr/calciopoli-tout-ce-que-vous-ne-savez-pas_117526
The website is a non partisan website (the second article is written by a milanista) and the only trustable french media about calcio.

And we're not talking about all the other mistakes: scudetto 2004 won by juve (cheating they said :lol: ), Conte had only 3 months as a coach before going to juve, juventus stadium was built thanks to JC blanc, SerieA is not anymore a major championship...

Just a few corrections to your post. I am as big a Juve fan as any other Juventini on this site. Who will ever know the truth about the scandal. Let's be clear about the trial. It was only about corruption and nothing else. You don't have to exchange money to be corrupt. Other favours can also be agreed. So much time has passed now. So called sporting and legal authorities seem still undecided about stripping Inter of at least one title when they have admitted connections to match officials. Milan contested a C.L final amidst the storm of scandal. Outrageous !!.
Should it ever be proven beyond doubt that my team ever took or gave money to influence games I would be ashamed. It's a disgrace that the Milanese don't share our sentiments.
You say the stadium was built thanks to Blanc. He was only responsible for securing contracts for the shopping/commercial areas because of his connections to french store chains. The rest of his job he did by all accounts poorly.If half-truths are to be believed, he even tried to have a say on transfere policy-not his job. We got rid of him as soon as possible and rightly so.
Lastly I don't know what your point is about Conte. We probably won't win the title this season but have a good chance of Automatic C.L place and the coppa. For all of us it is a far better position than we have been in for a long time,

Forza Juve.:banana:

Should i close the thread?

Please, don't. Guys this is the stadium thread, please stick to the title.

Interestingly enough, Google Maps still has the old Delle Alpi on their satellite images.:ohno:

That's nothing. Frankfurt's Commerzbank Arena is still showing as the Waldstadion, around 8 years after it was demolished.

2013/2014 UEFA Europa League Finale.

Juventus-Milan 2-2 after extra time, due to the first leg win Juventus gains access to the Coppa Italia final.

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2013/2014 UEFA Europa League Finale.

Milan vs. Inter? :troll:

Well, i wish they get to play Europa League, if you get what i mean...:troll:

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Well, i wish they get to play Europa League, if you get what i mean...:troll:

Well, what did you think I meant? :troll:

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Juventus-Milan 2-2 after extra time, due to the first leg win Juventus gains access to the Coppa Italia final.

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What a player ADP is. I can think of many world class players who would have acted unprofessionally given limited playing time. Not this guy. Seeing his performance last night reminds me why he is simply one of the best players I have ever seen both for his loyalty to Juve and his classy behaviour on and off the pitch. He seemed to play with such passion. He knows that his love affair with us is nearing its end from a playing point of view. Conte has a real dilema now as to playing ADP in the final. Call me a football romantic but I hope that he does play.His loyalty deserves it. He is also one of our few strikers who can run at a defense.

Forza Juve.:banana:

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Well, i wish they get to play Europa League, if you get what i mean...:troll:

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You have any high-resolution link for this beautiful shot mate ?

You have any high-resolution link for this beautiful shot mate ?
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Others:
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juve has been punished again for the racists chants (again) in this stadium.

What was the attendance for the Coppa Match vs. Milan.

And does anyone know how many more people have gone to Juve Games this season?


Milan are going to be forced to revamp the San Siro to compete with Juve.

What was the attendance for the Coppa Match vs. Milan.

And does anyone know how many more people have gone to Juve Games this season?


Milan are going to be forced to revamp the San Siro to compete with Juve.

stadium was sold out every single match this year, national cup included

What was the attendance for the Coppa Match vs. Milan.

And does anyone know how many more people have gone to Juve Games this season?


Milan are going to be forced to revamp the San Siro to compete with Juve.

http://www.stadiapostcards.com/A11-12.htm

Till now Juventus Stadium has been complete success with all the matches sold out :)

Compared to last season Juventus attendance in the league has grown by 167.95%. It could still increase or decrease because still five more home matches to go but I think the attendance will surely increase because we have big home matches against Inter, Napoli, Lazio, Roma.

You can also see Juve's away attendance has increased drastically. 12/20 teams has enjoyed highest attendance against Juventus while 3/20 are yet to play Juventus.

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Others:
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Grazie mille ! Thank you.

stadium is surely too small

stadium is surely too small

Yes, but is very nice.

stadium is surely too small

Why too small? Its perfect for Juve's needs.

Maybe in these conditions ( no track ) they could've went for more.

stadium is surely too small

If you see that this is Juventus' stadium then yes it is small considering the size of the club. One of the biggest in Italy and the world.

The reason behind small capacity is that one of the main aims of the club when building this stadium was to get it full for every match. So far this season the stadium has been sold out completely in all competitions. The stadium has been so successful so far that people even came to see the Primavera game.
So if the stadium was bigger like 60,000 seats then there were high chances that the stadium would have been half empty and empty seats are not good for atmosphere.

If the attendance continue to be high then I heard that the stadium is built such that it can be easily upgraded :)

I presume if they sold out every game next season as well, the expansion would be given the green light.