It will feel much more intense and imposing than any NEW stadium in england. This will change the whole italian game, its like all Italy watching football on an old analogue chunky TV that is 25 years old and Juve fans watching in a HD 3D flat screen. Thats how big the impact is going to be! :):):)

What a great way to put it ^^

ETFE stands for Ethylene Tetrafluoroethylene, a transparent polymer that is used instead of glass and plastic in some modern buildings. Compared to glass, ETFE:

Transmits more light
Insulates better
Costs 24% to 70% less to install
Is only 1/100 the weight of glass

It comes in different forms such as solid panels or thin fabric type sheets which can be inflated like cushions (Allianz). Thats why the Allianz can easily change colour by using different coloured LED's.. It comes from aerospace historically..

Sounds like a good move to use it then, any down sides to the material?

the material used for allianz arena and water cube

Thanks.

Seats look a tad weird.

Is it still on course to finish by start of 2011-2012 season?

Thanks for the reply delsa, it certainly clears my doubts on those seats around the stadium.

Hey brigate Rossonere, are you frm GOAL.COM forums. I've been seein around Juve's always. :lol:

Oh, i really, really LOVE the steepness! Can't wait to see both curve showing huge banners. Will be so impressive, PLUS the amazing acoustic!

But what do my eyes have to see there? I thought those covering panels on the roof are supposed to be translucent? This silver-gray material doesn't seem to me like it would let in any sunlight? :(

does any one have the financial details of the renewal with the balacco brand?

I'd like to know this as well.

Oh, i really, really LOVE the steepness! Can't wait to see both curve showing huge banners. Will be so impressive, PLUS the amazing acoustic!

But what do my eyes have to see there? I thought those covering panels on the roof are supposed to be translucent? This silver-gray material doesn't seem to me like it would let in any sunlight? :(



I'd like to know this as well.

This is the only info I've found about it..


Balocco renew with Juventus

Balocco, the renowned Piedmont company, leader in the confectionary field, have renewed their partnership with Juventus as their Official Sponsor.
Also for the season 2011/2012, their logo will be displayed on the shirt of the first team in a third of their games, friendlies included, played within the whole season. Furthermore, the Balocco trademark will sponsor the shirt of Juventus youth teams, for all official and friendly fixtures.

The important renewal comes a few months after the debut of the Balocco logo on the tricoloured shirt used in the Serie A championship 2010/2011. The great visibility obtained in several key matches, the success of the initiatives planned with Juventus - among which the sponsor match arranged for the clash Juventus-Inter - as well as numerous public relation and co-marketing activities contributed to consolidate the partnership between the two companies.

Moreover, Balocco products are daily on the breakfast tables of the Bianconeri.

In addition to the shirt, Balocco will benefit from all first-grade visibility rights: LED screens around the pitch and backdrop, image of the squad for advertising and communication activities, public relation instruments.

This is the only info I've found about it..


Balocco renew with Juventus

Balocco, the renowned Piedmont company, leader in the confectionary field, have renewed their partnership with Juventus as their Official Sponsor.
Also for the season 2011/2012, their logo will be displayed on the shirt of the first team in a third of their games, friendlies included, played within the whole season. Furthermore, the Balocco trademark will sponsor the shirt of Juventus youth teams, for all official and friendly fixtures.

The important renewal comes a few months after the debut of the Balocco logo on the tricoloured shirt used in the Serie A championship 2010/2011. The great visibility obtained in several key matches, the success of the initiatives planned with Juventus - among which the sponsor match arranged for the clash Juventus-Inter - as well as numerous public relation and co-marketing activities contributed to consolidate the partnership between the two companies.

Moreover, Balocco products are daily on the breakfast tables of the Bianconeri.

In addition to the shirt, Balocco will benefit from all first-grade visibility rights: LED screens around the pitch and backdrop, image of the squad for advertising and communication activities, public relation instruments.

Yea i read that too. Maybe the numbers are so low, that they are too embarrassed to come out with them?
:lol::nuts:

Yea i read that too. Maybe the numbers are so low, that they are too embarrassed to come out with them?
:lol::nuts:

I guess the financial numbers are the same, and they just extended the contract deal. Maybe Juve didn't have any good offers on the table and Balocco was the only one interested.

On the other hand, i'd rather have a sponsor that stays for quite a sometime, rather than change sponsor each and every year. That'll even show how pathetic it is. :nuts:

[QUOTE=Blomer;72961179]Oh, i really, really LOVE the steepness! Can't wait to see both curve showing huge banners. Will be so impressive, PLUS the amazing acoustic!

But what do my eyes have to see there? I thought those covering panels on the roof are supposed to be translucent? This silver-gray material doesn't seem to me like it would let in any sunlight? :(



Go to my post # 1142 on this thread (or its referenced above in #1252). I explained it there. ETFE is deceptive at certain angles, but is more translucent than glass... Read the post. Hope it helps..:)

Fucking awesome! What a steepness!

It is closer to an NBA basketball arena in terms of the angle... And the atmos in those is cool. been to many games in Conseco Fieldhouse (considered the best by most).

This Bloody rocks!
28 degrees first tier..
Whats the 2nd tier?

What a great way to put it ^^

Hopefully Milan will sort themselves out in the next few years and build their own ground and get away from the black & blue devil... At minimum at least have the San Siro renovated (again). It really needs a massive re-fresh. Great building, but inside it's just sold tatty.. You'd be better off going it alone tho...

This stadium is so awesome. I can't wait to see it packed-out by the Juve faithfull. I love how steep the stands are and, as Schmeek said, its great to see some common sense applied with regards to the capacity. It also looks like expansion in the future, should it be needed of course, would be relatively easy as well.

I've been enjoying the updates as well, fellas. Thanks.

28 degrees first tier..
Whats the 2nd tier?
35 degrees for the second tier. But I prefer to watch matches at first, nearer the pitch :)

35 degrees for the second tier. But I prefer to watch matches at first, nearer the pitch :)

too true!
35 is very nice too..
You'll be able to smell the players next season...:)

ooh! those seats are very good in visuals! do they include lcd screens? it seem to have a space for that!

How many euros will cost to atend a match in vip box?

only the seats on tribuna agnelli and tribuna 100 have the lcd screens



the cost?


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35 degrees for the second tier. But I prefer to watch matches at first, nearer the pitch :)

It is great to be close to the game but I think with the aesthetics of the new stadium every seat in the house will be classy to watch the game from.

It is great to be close to the game but I think with the aesthetics of the new stadium every seat in the house will be classy to watch the game from.

according to Juve official press releases way back, the furthest seats away (in the new stadium) are actually closer than than nearest in the old delle alpi..:) :nuts:

according to Juve official press releases way back, the furthest seats away (in the new stadium) are actually closer than than nearest in the old delle alpi..:) :nuts:

I think I read that. Maybe on Wikipedia? Maybe on some other forum... but that is crazy. Then again, the Alpi was never renowned for the quality of viewing from its stands.

I think I read that. Maybe on Wikipedia? Maybe on some other forum... but that is crazy. Then again, the Alpi was never renowned for the quality of viewing from its stands.

Indeed it wasnt.. Like many in Italy.. But it is crazy to think that nearly 42,000 people will be closer than any seat in the old stadium. And to think some people complain about size of this ground... If they had ever been to a game at the old stadium, they would not make such remarks...:)

grazie delsa for explanations!

But it is high prices!! :eek2:

ecco qui ragazzi sono passato oggi di fretta e ho visto questa nuova novità e ho fatto una foto con il cellulare perchè come ho detto ero di fretta e non avevo la macchina foto la prossima volta farò più foto e fatte bene promesso


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Alucobond is on fire :banana:
Green, white and red.

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Alucobond for Shopping Center?
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Indeed it wasnt.. Like many in Italy.. But it is crazy to think that nearly 42,000 people will be closer than any seat in the old stadium. And to think some people complain about size of this ground... If they had ever been to a game at the old stadium, they would not make such remarks...:)

The atmosphere should be extraordinary, next visit to Europe not only will I watch a Milan game but I will try to get tickets to a Juve home games (if there will be any left :) )

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It just looks better and better every time I look at it.

The atmosphere should be extraordinary, next visit to Europe not only will I watch a Milan game but I will try to get tickets to a Juve home games (if there will be any left :) )
Yeah, the road Milan-Turin is 55 minutes with fast train, it's very near.
If it will be a match against a medium team (Bologna, Brescia, Cagliari, Lecce, ecc.), I think there will be no problem to get tickets :)

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The tearing down of Stadio Delle Alpi.. sobs* :(

Yeah, the road Milan-Turin is 55 minutes with fast train, it's very near.
If it will be a match against a medium team (Bologna, Brescia, Cagliari, Lecce, ecc.), I think there will be no problem to get tickets :)

sorry but your team is only 2 position above us..a medium team is your team in this seasons ,but with a beatifull stadium for the next year :)!
p.s. match with Cagliari was played 2 weeks ago..in Cagliari,and the last week with lecce in lecce so good luck for the tickets :lol:

sorry but your team is only 2 position above us..a medium team is your team in this seasons ,but with a beatifull stadium for the next year :)!
p.s. match with Cagliari was played 2 weeks ago..in Cagliari,and the last week with lecce in lecce so good luck for the tickets :lol:
The history says: 29 Scudetti, 9 Italy's Cup, 2 Champions League, 2 World Champion Titles, 3 Uefa Europa League, and so on...
Medium team? Ahahah :lol:

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Thanks to Delsa and Gobbo1949.

Are those facade panels fixed or do they move even when they are situated in position? Previously they said that they would resonate / move with crowd noise.. which is why i ask about if they "float" or not..

a small concern from aesthetics.. We will have to wait until finished, but the grey they use is quite dark and a little dull.. I thought they would be using lighter coloured panels than this... And I thought the panels would be a glossy or shiny finish.. It looks "warship" grey.. Im not sure about this colour scheme... Any other Juve fans think the same?

Are those facade panels fixed or do they move even when they are situated in position? Previously they said that they would resonate / move with crowd noise.. which is why i ask about if they "float" or not..
I don't know. We discuss about it in italian thread just a few days ago: some users say that the engineer was joking when said it, other ones say panels will move. :nuts:
a small concern from aesthetics.. We will have to wait until finished, but the grey they use is quite dark and a little dull.. I thought they would be using lighter coloured panels than this... And I thought the panels would be a glossy or shiny finish.. It looks "warship" grey.. Im not sure about this colour scheme... Any other Juve fans think the same?
Yeah, it is just a part of colouration...and we have to watch the final effect with lights or sun...different IMHO, also like ETFE.

Anyway, this is the final rendering


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Oh, i really, really LOVE the steepness! Can't wait to see both curve showing huge banners. Will be so impressive, PLUS the amazing acoustic!

But what do my eyes have to see there? I thought those covering panels on the roof are supposed to be translucent? This silver-gray material doesn't seem to me like it would let in any sunlight? :(



Go to my post # 1142 on this thread (or its referenced above in #1252). I explained it there. ETFE is deceptive at certain angles, but is more translucent than glass... Read the post. Hope it helps..:)

Yea, it helped in some way. Thanks!

Now, it's nothing exceptional that the final result of a planned building never looks exactly the same as the renderings, but honestly,
some parts became too dissident from what has been shown. Starting with the tie rods, over the roof and the (lightproof?) covering material to the, as you already mentioned, the facade panels. I really liked the idea from the very first video, with shiny, chrome lookalike panels. And i like those black and dark-grey spots as well, but, just like you've said, that part in the photo looks too dark and it seems it's getting the major part this way of the facade. And if you look closely and compare it to the render, they missed the line/row for the tricolori, should've been one or two lines/rows lower.

Yea, it helped in some way. Thanks!

Now, it's nothing exceptional that the final result of a planned building never looks exactly the same as the renderings, but honestly,
some parts became too dissident from what has been shown. Starting with the tie rods, over the roof and the (lightproof?) covering material to the, as you already mentioned, the facade panels. I really liked the idea from the very first video, with shiny, chrome lookalike panels. And i like those black and dark-grey spots as well, but, just like you've said, that part in the photo looks too dark and it seems it's getting the major part this way of the facade. And if you look closely and compare it to the render, they missed the line/row for the tricolori, should've been one or two lines/rows lower.

Great observation. I guess they proposed it that way now since it provide a better visual of the tricolore from distance as compared putting it slightly lower. Hence, it acts like a rim to the roof. :)

I don't know. We discuss about it in italian thread just a few days ago: some users say that the engineer was joking when said it, other ones say panels will move. :nuts:

Yeah, it is just a part of colouration...and we have to watch the final effect with lights or sun...different IMHO, also like ETFE.

Anyway, this is the final rendering

Are those final rendering from a video? I'm curious they place 2 stars on the facade, what will happen in the future if we reached the 3rd star!? Lol. I guess they have to adjust things out on the facade then.. :ohno:

Are those final rendering from a video? I'm curious they place 2 stars on the facade, what will happen in the future if we reached the 3rd star!? Lol. I guess they have to adjust things out on the facade then.. :ohno:
Yes, it's the last rendering of december 2010.
It's easy to replace the panels...so with a work of some days, we have the third star, on the next scudetto!

New video
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I don't know. We discuss about it in italian thread just a few days ago: some users say that the engineer was joking when said it, other ones say panels will move. :nuts:

Yeah, it is just a part of colouration...and we have to watch the final effect with lights or sun...different IMHO, also like ETFE.

Anyway, this is the final rendering

Thats my concern. Its totally different. This looks pearlisant white with grey and black spot panels ( nad yes they have moved the tri colour as someone mentioned). I dont care about that, just concerned (not even by the grey colour they seem to use, but it has zero shine and may look like grey sky.. My problem is the matt finish more than the colour..But think about it the A frame supports on each end are white, so how this all going to blend together.. ? I hope they dont spoil a white swan by dressing it with dull clothing..
I sometimes keep up on the italian thread too. I think those panel are fixed, non moveable...They would rattle in the wind if they floated and that would be annoying after a while..

Guys,
Any news on the facade and my concerns that I mentioned yesterday?

I'm sorry, Ash...I can't understand very well your concerns; maybe because I studied only british english and it's not so good (you are from USA, aren't you?) :nuts:

I mean, the alucobond will have various shade of grey: so dark grey which trend to black...and light grey which trend to white. It depends on light on sky, of the sun, if it's morning or night...of course in the evening match it will be good IMHO.
The matt is a consequence of this kind of strange material, I think.

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If/when Juve start selling out regularly, Juve's ticket will be in high demand. The whole point is to create scarcity. 40,000 at Juve will make the club more money than 60,000+ anywhere else in Italy. Hell, 25,000 might suffice for that. Deciding on 40,000 was a smart and bold decision that more Italian clubs need to follow. For the league to truly move to the next level, it needs more smaller, rectangular stadiums. Why create a 60,000 seater that Juve won't fill out regularly? It's good to see that clubs are thinking about these things with some common sense.

As I said though Juve's average attendance was higher than 40K for a number of seasons. We've heard time and again that the Della Apli running track hurt attendances so why not build a 50-60K stadium and leave room for those extra fans?

Doubtless it will draw in alot of corperate cash and provide a much better viewing expereince than the old ground but for a club of Juve's size it just lacks ambition for me. For the average fan it looks like its out of the frying pan(running track, poor atmosphere) and into the fire(high ticket prices, small capacity).

Honetsly i am not happy with this green-white-red strip.
Black and white would be better.

I'm sorry, Ash...I can't understand very well your concerns; maybe because I studied only british english and it's not so good (you are from USA, aren't you?) :nuts:

I mean, the alucobond will have various shade of grey: so dark grey which trend to black...and light grey which trend to white. It depends on light on sky, of the sun, if it's morning or night...of course in the evening match it will be good IMHO.
The matt is a consequence of this kind of strange material, I think.

Curva. Actually i am from England and live here, but I did live in the USA for 8 years and returned fairly recently to UK. Whe I lived in UK, Turin was easy for me to visit..:(, but living in the USA, of course it was not possible for weekends. Thats why It's been quite a number of years since i went to a game.. But now this can change....:):)

I guess we will have to wait to see more development... It wouldnt surprise me if Juve have a minor change here or there to the published final rendering.. Perhaps as a tribute or something to please fans (not tri-colour).. The main concern is that it has zero shine (whites and grey should have been shiny) but they look "flat".. And may not reflect light well.

Ok, I understand. I don't know the behavior of this material, perhaps it's like ETFE and become translucent only when ray of light arrives on.
The first impression...is not good also for me and other fans, but we have to wait for "final product"
We'll see something of better when west stand (where more rays of light arrive) will be covered with alucobond...

A tribute for fans IMHO will be a monument for 39 Heysel died.

Anyway, on italian thread an user say first seats have been installed. ;)

Ok, I understand. I don't know the behavior of this material, perhaps it's like ETFE and become translucent only when ray of light arrives on.
The first impression...is not good also for me and other fans, but we have to wait for "final product"
We'll see something of better when west stand (where more rays of light arrive) will be covered with alucobond...

A tribute for fans IMHO will be a monument for 39 Heysel died.

Anyway, on italian thread an user say first seats have been installed. ;)

I have been following on italian thread also.. But there is many OT discussion and sometimes it is hard to understand some comments..
Yes we have to wait and see more work... But even ur photo posted last night, the arrangement of the colours of panels looks odd..
When stadium is open for Juve, i will come over..Perhaps you can meet me to watch game in Curva..:)

No problem ;)

Does anyone know if they plan to have stadium tours for non game days, like in other modern clubs?

Does anyone know if they plan to have stadium tours for non game days, like in other modern clubs?

obviously

but the museum will not be ready for the opening season

we hope for the next one

delsa do you know what kind of stuff that will be on display in the museum (some old shirts, boots, socks, things that can't be brought in store today?)

y will the museum not be ready 4 next season is it because it is being built by other contractors?

As I said though Juve's average attendance was higher than 40K for a number of seasons. We've heard time and again that the Della Apli running track hurt attendances so why not build a 50-60K stadium and leave room for those extra fans?

Doubtless it will draw in alot of corperate cash and provide a much better viewing expereince than the old ground but for a club of Juve's size it just lacks ambition for me. For the average fan it looks like its out of the frying pan(running track, poor atmosphere) and into the fire(high ticket prices, small capacity).

1) Attendances all across Italy are much lower now than when Juve hat a higher-than-40k attendance. And it's about 20 years ago. Betting on Juve getting those attendances easily again would be pretty risky, to say the least.

2) If the attendance start off roughly where they are - or let's say slightly increased around 30k - the 40k seater will already look pretty full, which tends to be beneficial to the atmosphere and can attract new fans. 30k in a 60k seater will look empty and might actually scare fans away. Though I have to admit that's more a personal belief than something empirically sound.

3) Smaller stadium means cheaper upkeep. Financially, it's a bad idea to have a stadium with a lot of attendance to spare.

4) Isn't the stadium planned with a possible future extension in mind? I thought I read something along those lines somewhere... if it would have to be demolished and rebuilt to update it to 60k, I'd agree with you, in the long run, a club like Juve should target higher attendances than 40k. But I believe it's not a good idea for either club or fans to build a stadium much bigger than double the current average attendance, for the 2 reasons mentioned above.

1) Attendances all across Italy are much lower now than when Juve hat a higher-than-40k attendance. And it's about 20 years ago. Betting on Juve getting those attendances easily again would be pretty risky, to say the least.

2) If the attendance start off roughly where they are - or let's say slightly increased around 30k - the 40k seater will already look pretty full, which tends to be beneficial to the atmosphere and can attract new fans. 30k in a 60k seater will look empty and might actually scare fans away. Though I have to admit that's more a personal belief than something empirically sound.

3) Smaller stadium means cheaper upkeep. Financially, it's a bad idea to have a stadium with a lot of attendance to spare.

4) Isn't the stadium planned with a possible future extension in mind? I thought I read something along those lines somewhere... if it would have to be demolished and rebuilt to update it to 60k, I'd agree with you, in the long run, a club like Juve should target higher attendances than 40k. But I believe it's not a good idea for either club or fans to build a stadium much bigger than double the current average attendance, for the 2 reasons mentioned above.

Answer to question 4. I dont think we really know for sure if it can be expanded, but the general opinion is that it can be (whether its a expanded 2nd tier or a small new 3rd tier) It depends on those 2 support "A frames" on each end. If the angle can be adjusted outward it would simply pull the roof up and create more space outward for bigger capacity. If not, then there still is room for about another 10K IMO. Or my idea was they could cut away the end parts a new 3rd tier with the A frames at the same angle running through the stands (similar to old delle alpi). The strings just need to be pulled up or angle of frames changed (which would do the same). So I believe it's easy to increase. I dont see 60K coming tho. IMO 52K - 55K will be the end result. But you are very correct about not making too big to begin with.. For the reasons you say above... IMO Juve will be nearly maxing out capacity within a year if they improve their football. Within 5 years..solid plans to increase by 10K, but no more (they will never build a 60K or bigger)..

[QUOTE=Cirdan;73461857]1) Attendances all across Italy are much lower now than when Juve hat a higher-than-40k attendance. And it's about 20 years ago. Betting on Juve getting those attendances easily again would be pretty risky, to say the least.



Just one more point. Your right.. But Juve used to average as much as 48K, even 52K (early mid 90's). When they were dominating Europe. And this was in a poor stadium for spectators..So if they sort themselves out on the pitch and the effect this stadium will have on all fans (away fans too) in italy because its soooooooo close to fans etc it would sell 50K+ every game without any problems. Expect a nearly packed out ground next year tho..:)

The problem for attendance is the power of players and team, which is maybe the worst in 114 years of Juve history.
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from www.tifosibianconeri.com by Trax

if this team finishes worst than 7th this year would marotta and del neri get fired liked SECCO and company. Marotta brought in so many players but yet results aren't coming. Instead of this JUVE setting standards for the league to follow, we are following the standards of the league. What a shame we are turning into a mid table team

1) Attendances all across Italy are much lower now than when Juve hat a higher-than-40k attendance. And it's about 20 years ago. Betting on Juve getting those attendances easily again would be pretty risky, to say the least.

2) If the attendance start off roughly where they are - or let's say slightly increased around 30k - the 40k seater will already look pretty full, which tends to be beneficial to the atmosphere and can attract new fans. 30k in a 60k seater will look empty and might actually scare fans away. Though I have to admit that's more a personal belief than something empirically sound.

3) Smaller stadium means cheaper upkeep. Financially, it's a bad idea to have a stadium with a lot of attendance to spare.

4) Isn't the stadium planned with a possible future extension in mind? I thought I read something along those lines somewhere... if it would have to be demolished and rebuilt to update it to 60k, I'd agree with you, in the long run, a club like Juve should target higher attendances than 40k. But I believe it's not a good idea for either club or fans to build a stadium much bigger than double the current average attendance, for the 2 reasons mentioned above.

Again though alot of the reason for dropping attendances in Italy are the same as in the Della Alip, running tracks, poor facilties etc. In Juve's case you also need to look at the impact of ref scandle/religation, theres room for a good deal of rebound there.

The ideal route to take for me would have been building a 40K stadium with the ability to expand to 50-60K.

Again though alot of the reason for dropping attendances in Italy are the same as in the Della Alip, running tracks, poor facilties etc. In Juve's case you also need to look at the impact of ref scandle/religation, theres room for a good deal of rebound there.

The ideal route to take for me would have been building a 40K stadium with the ability to expand to 50-60K.

I believe that's what they have done more or less..:)

39,5 ME lost in six months

The first half of the year of the season 2010-2011 is hardly brilliant for Juve. If his(her,its) sports results(profits) are disappointing, that to say then about his(her,its) financial results(profits)? The board of directors of the Turinese club announced on Monday a loss calculated(coded) to 39,5 million euro. Over the same period of the previous season, the Old lady had loosened(kicked away) 14,2 million euro of profits. Receipts(recipes) are lower too than the last exercise: 88,8 against 125 million euro for the last year, that is a decline of 29 %. A negative balance sheet(assessment) which explains in particular by the participation to the League Europa, less lucrative than the Champions' League, and by the change of management of the broadcast rights, henceforth mutualized between the Italian clubs. In a communiqué, the club however assures(insures) to have " the financial resources to face the negative results(profits) of the current exercise ".

source AFP traduction by reverso

Terrible and unexpected numbers.

39,5 ME lost in six months

The first half of the year of the season 2010-2011 is hardly brilliant for Juve. If his(her,its) sports results(profits) are disappointing, that to say then about his(her,its) financial results(profits)? The board of directors of the Turinese club announced on Monday a loss calculated(coded) to 39,5 million euro. Over the same period of the previous season, the Old lady had loosened(kicked away) 14,2 million euro of profits. Receipts(recipes) are lower too than the last exercise: 88,8 against 125 million euro for the last year, that is a decline of 29 %. A negative balance sheet(assessment) which explains in particular by the participation to the League Europa, less lucrative than the Champions' League, and by the change of management of the broadcast rights, henceforth mutualized between the Italian clubs. In a communiqué, the club however assures(insures) to have " the financial resources to face the negative results(profits) of the current exercise ".

source AFP traduction by reverso
iTS NOT A SURPRISE. This forecasted loss has been stated for many months now. Expected (per what u said) but not un-planned to an extent.. But still not great..

iTS NOT A SURPRISE. This forecasted loss has been stated for many months now. Expected (per what u said) but not un-planned to an extent.. But still not great..
The loss for the full year was valued at about 50 milions of euro. After first six month we are already at -39.5 MLN. :bash:
Costs grow up of 16%: this is the really strange thing. Why?

39,5 ME lost in six months

The first half of the year of the season 2010-2011 is hardly brilliant for Juve. If his(her,its) sports results(profits) are disappointing, that to say then about his(her,its) financial results(profits)? The board of directors of the Turinese club announced on Monday a loss calculated(coded) to 39,5 million euro. Over the same period of the previous season, the Old lady had loosened(kicked away) 14,2 million euro of profits. Receipts(recipes) are lower too than the last exercise: 88,8 against 125 million euro for the last year, that is a decline of 29 %. A negative balance sheet(assessment) which explains in particular by the participation to the League Europa, less lucrative than the Champions' League, and by the change of management of the broadcast rights, henceforth mutualized between the Italian clubs. In a communiqué, the club however assures(insures) to have " the financial resources to face the negative results(profits) of the current exercise ".

source AFP traduction by reverso
what about your poor inter, axelferis? :lol:

Are you offended by numbers? :lol:

Here's Juve's new stadium:
"Supporters at 7 meters, more beautiful than San Siro"

http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/8595/stadiojuve01g.jpg (http://img688.imageshack.us/i/stadiojuve01g.jpg/)

TURIN - There's a lot that Juventus can be sure of winning on the field: it is that the new stadium that is being built to Continassa. "We will be more than Meazza San Siro-Inter and Milan fans will have seven and a half meters from the pitch," provides the engineer Francis Ossola, which since June 2009 is taking care of the 'twelfth man', the public black and white.

With that last name recalls the attack of the Grande Torino, with Loik-Mazzola-Gabetto-Ossola, but the engineer Francis, while respectful of the reputation suffered shrapnel, is Juventus and is primarily responsible for the structural design and project management. Lecturer at the Polytechnic University fo Turin - Ergotecnica construction, its has nearly three decades of experience in stadiums. Combination, his first job was just to revive the glorious Philadelphia: "In the eighties the then President of Torino, Sergio Rossi, asked me to study." Then he committed himself to the Delle Alpi, "Hutter With the architect designed the basin of the world, which was originally to be only for football."

A qualified veteran, then: "I have used the practical knowledge, of course. Especially those made for the Delle Alpi, which was built in record time, and that this time again: the new plant will be ready in August for the presentation of Juventus next season. " The "stage of the 1990 'underground parts were recovered and some steps: everything else is new, two levels of bleachers for 41 000 seats, sixty stages, a ring for access and flow of vehicles and rescue. Sixteen of the catwalks to enter, without architectural barriers. In an emergency, the facility will empty in less than four minutes. Below the grandstands will be implemented the service areas to the stadium and the teams.

"These days we are working to complete the cover - says Ossola - we say that 75 percent is made: the cover of the ramparts, studied in the wind tunnel is made, inspired by the profile of the wings of an aircraft: a structure of great weight , a membrane made of partially transparent and partially opaque, to allow an optimal view of the field, both daytime and nighttime, and to ensure the passage of sufficient light to the growth of the grass of the field. " The whole structure is anchored to two yards to A. fitted, three hundred feet tall, weighing 630 tonnes each and a maximum diameter of 4 feet. "I also served as a crane: thanks to them we raised three thousand tonnes of material," added the engineer, proud to have gained time, reduced costs and find solutions that will have less maintenance requirements, "Compared to the Delle Alpi - he says - we have a basic structure, with fewer ties, which are winch and support at the same time. "

After completing the roof-to mid-March we will work to prepare the playing field. Ossola is convinced that the overall project (architects and Hernando Suarez Gino Zavanella) will find the satisfaction of the spectators, everything is designed to show the better the match: "The positions of the coaches will be built into the stands like in England, to remove less visibility. " A plant designed to be used full time, seven days a week: the area devoted to the commercial area measures 34 square meters, on which there are a shopping arcade, a shopping center and a DIY and do-it-yourself . Another 30 thousand square meters of public green areas, flower beds, streets and existing parking for 4000 cars.

http://www3.lastampa.it/sport/sezioni/quijuve/articolo/lstp/391118/

:cheers:

Are you offended by numbers? :lol:
no, by you

no, by you
Don't feed the troll...maybe today he has lost again the new hearing of FARSOPOLI at the court of Naples. :lol:

no, by you

Great stadium anyway :lol:

Don't feed the troll...maybe today he has lost again the new hearing of FARSOPOLI at the court of Naples. :lol:

What is the news or hearing from recent events..

What is the news or hearing from recent events..
the same news...calciopoli has been all a lie told by who had and still have the power in italy.

the same news...calciopoli has been all a lie told by who had and still have the power in italy.

yeh i know all that, but anything concrete or do they still debate the missing wire tapes etc etc.. And validity of first trial..
Soz it's OT.

yeh i know all that, but anything concrete or do they still debate the missing wire tapes etc etc.. And validity of first trial..
Soz it's OT.
they still debate

what is calciopoli? a new scandal? again? Never stop there?! :(

what is calciopoli? a new scandal? again? Never stop there?! :(

A grave injustice....
The un-fair and undignified removal of a power establishment (juve)..
A fear based corruption of the truth...

Poor, shameful Inter...:ohno:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Italian_football_scandal

What is the news or hearing from recent events..
Go to www.ju29ro.com: there are the highlights of the hearing of today in Naples ;)

Thanks to Gianni, from thread "AAA nuovo stadio completandosi"

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Ok,le posto io allora...Grazie ancora a gianni70 su forum AAA

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A grave injustice....
The un-fair and undignified removal of a power establishment (juve)..
A fear based corruption of the truth...

Poor, shameful Inter...:ohno:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Italian_football_scandal

i don't understand why only juve has gone in seria B? milan ac lost several points but played the champiosn league (unfair)

If inter was not punished is because they were innocent no?

i have no prblem to recognize juve ahs cheated but it's sure milan ac was to blame much harder to cheat also!

Axelferis, Calciopoli is a long, difficult and intricate story. We can't speak about it in just a few words to explain you what happened.
Also because a trial is going in Naples, we have to wait for the final sentence.

So if you don't know what really has happened in 2006, please shut up. It's better because we Juve supporters could insult you, like Inter fans who don't follow the trial. ;)

i don't understand why only juve has gone in seria B? milan ac lost several points but played the champiosn league (unfair)

If inter was not punished is because they were innocent no?

i have no prblem to recognize juve ahs cheated but it's sure milan ac was to blame much harder to cheat also!

Axel. As Curva says its very hard to easily explain... But to help you just remember these simple things..
* Never has any club been found guilty or cheating or match fixing...
* Clubs relegated or taken off points ..were guilty of directors phoning the referee organisers who choose appointment of official. Moggi had many calls because he was most influential. All clubs did this to protect themselves against each other.
* Several clubs demoted to serie B (later changed to just points penalty) apart from Juve.
Juve stripped of 2 titles.. 1 of them given to Inter (05-06).. 04-05 not re-awarded to anyone.. WHY? Its odd to have different rules for the 2 titles...
* The trials (juve) was rushed through, without proper defence (partly clubs fault) with the 2006 world cup coming up.
* Inter never implicated at time.
* new evidence of phone calls made by Inter also.. these were hidden / not submitted at the time..
* The whole scandal was started by Italian media releases (Media companies of which have controlling influence / partners of Inter!)
* still court goes on... Inter directors now implicated too... with evidence of recordings..
*All innocent or All guilty...
*Give us back those 2 titles. They were won fair (the whole Juve team played in the 2006 world cup final..either france or Italy)

They savaged the club because to fear & dominance.. But as they say "revenge is a dish better served cold".. Juve will return..
Juve is Italy... Inter destroy Italy..

AXEL. If you want to learn more read truth on internet that i linked you... You will educate yourself and not make bad statements. Its s dangerous subject to comment on unless you know the facts..;)

this being very good this stage

curva nord and Ash-> ok :) this affair is too complcated! juve , milan ac , inter are guilty then! lets 's justice do its job! If berlusconi falls his club will pass by trial court too...

what is calciopoli? a new scandal? again? Never stop there?! :(
stop, please

i don't understand why only juve has gone in seria B? milan ac lost several points but played the champiosn league (unfair)

If inter was not punished is because they were innocent no?
i have no prblem to recognize juve ahs cheated but it's sure milan ac was to blame much harder to cheat also!

No! They have hidden every evidence that could prove them guilty. Remember that inter and milan are powerful. Their owners are politicians, entrepeneurs, oilmen and also control mass media. Juve, instead, is only weakly linked to a car company which don't care about juve anymore. It's just a cost for it.

Juve didn't buy any match or referee. Just talked to referees boss which was allowed but people didn't know. So when only juve calls emerged people was shocked and they thought juve cheated. Totally false. Every team spoke to referees boss cause it was allowed (even if not fair), but make people know that only juve did that was a simple way to destroy juve.

Berlusconi and moratti TVs and newspapers still deny everything about their teams. Go listen to inter former president (facchetti) asking referee (not referee boss) before the match to help inter win the game.

Listening inter owner saying he is honest unlike other ones is a fucking shame.

We can definitely call this mafia. Is it clear now?

So the implied but not proven evidence against Inter means they were guilty, but the implied but not proven evidence against Juventus means they were innocent, because nothing was proven?


I mean, the whole argument seems to be that Inter should have been punished because they were just as guilty as Juventus, but Juventus shouldn't have been punished because the evidence wasn't conclusive.

So the implied but not proven evidence against Inter means they were guilty, but the implied but not proven evidence against Juventus means they were innocent, because nothing was proven?


I mean, the whole argument seems to be that Inter should have been punished because they were just as guilty as Juventus, but Juventus shouldn't have been punished because the evidence wasn't conclusive.

It doesnt matter which way you think it should be.. Guilty or not.. The fact is that there should be comparable sentences...Everyone was at it, so everyone should have similar outcomes... IMO all will be found guilty because the governing bodies cannot undo what it did to clubs - especially Juve.. Inter will loose that awarded title and be deducted points for whichever season is upcoming... The 2 Juve titles.. IMO they will both be un-assigned when this is finished (but i hope they give them back).
If they found all innocent, can you imagine the lawsuits (Juve & Moggi).. It wont happen..
Anyway enough, because we await trial findings..

just for finish explain me how inter and milan ac do to avoid big sentences? berlusconi and power... it's not the only answer!

something must be done!! UEFA too is laxist with such cases! in 1993 they banned marseille to disput champions league

How they let milan ac played this competition knowing that points were taken from the debut of serie A in 2006-2007?!!

This new stadium is the debut of a new era i hope for you juve fans but if some corruption cases are found again i think it will be in the DNA of this club sorry and don't be offended guys.

But this stadium needs to see great matches and great spirit of sports :)

Stay on topic please. There are other forums for Calciopoli and there is not much to say until the final verdict comes out which should be done soon so everyone can put this behind them.

Heard news that Stadium is still on track for 2011 season but Museum will not open till mid 2012 to end of 2012. Why is that?

just for finish explain me how inter and milan ac do to avoid big sentences? berlusconi and power... it's not the only answer!

something must be done!! UEFA too is laxist with such cases! in 1993 they banned marseille to disput champions league

How they let milan ac played this competition knowing that points were taken from the debut of serie A in 2006-2007?!!

This new stadium is the debut of a new era i hope for you juve fans but if some corruption cases are found again i think it will be in the DNA of this club sorry and don't be offended guys.

But this stadium needs to see great matches and great spirit of sports :)
which corruption? i don't understand...maybe you're talking about other teams..

This new stadium is the debut of a new era i hope for you juve fans but if some corruption cases are found again i think it will be in the DNA of this club sorry and don't be offended guys.
speak about what you know, please. it's the second time i tell you these words


there is no one situation of corruption regarding juventus fc expecially in the ridiculuos trial of 2006(if you want i can tell you everything of that but in italian, it so difficulat for me in english)
se qualcuno vuole può raccontagli la storia dell'interpretazione del sentimento popolare, del piaccia o non piaccia non esistono telefonate di altre squadre...etc etc...


berlusconi and power... it's not the only answer

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

it's clear that you don't live in italy and don't know our situation :lol:


please, stop to be ridiculous :lol:



speak about stadia, please. it's better for you and us

vorrei ... :)

vorrei ... :)

so i tell to Curva Nord to send you a PM about what happened in the 2006

In the first years of 2000s, Rome and Inter, after spending so many millions of euro in bad players, cannot win titles. So with the help of controlled medias (Gazzetta and Corriere della Sera which had a partnership with Inter, Roman RAI SPORT, La7 television with Tronchetti Provera - Telecom) started a campaign to underline every referee mistake, like they were a "conspiracy" again them.
So, there is an incredible phone call between referees boss Bergamo, and president of FIGC Carraro, in which Carraro says Rodomonti (referee of Inter-Juve) can be wrong in favour of Inter, NOT in favour of Juventus, because he is afraid of media consequences.

In 2006 medias amplify the echoes of calciopoli, with the help of corrupted journalist, because there was of a enemy of all which always win and it was too strong with his champions of the world, the Juventus.

The policeman who investigates, hides an incredible number of phone call of other team, and write a "romance" which tells of this tournament of 2004/2005.

We watch this policeman then speak with Moratti...:nuts:
Look at it (from 1:12 and 4:00) :)

XJaiWs0eGoA

So everybody were convinced that just Moggi had relationship with boss referees...but it wasn't true because we discovery that every team president call with the phone him.
For example, this phone call was hidden, and discoveried by lawyers of Moggi, just in 2010.

The call, published by Tuttosport, involves Facchetti and Bergamo discussing the referee for the Cagliari-Inter Coppa Italia semi-final of 2005, a day before the game. The call is dated May 11, 2005.

Facchetti: Look, I saw the score that we have had with Bertini. Four wins, four draws and four defeats.
Bergamo: Damn, ok, lets do five, four, four. But wins.
Facchetti: But tell him that its important tomorrow. He has had 12 games, all four, four, four.
Bergamo: He will move one, the one that starts with V. I still have to speak with him, but he is intelligent, and he knows how things should go. Better late than never. Listen Giacinto, we consider Sunday's game to be a tranquil one. And we will put a debutant ref in the grid. Is that ok for you?
Facchetti: Yes ok, if you want to. It's ok...
Bergamo: I wanted to tell, please don't ever think about a lack of attention from my part.
Facchetti: On Sunday a debutant ref is fine for me.
Bergamo: A debutant, there is Mazzoleni.
Facchetti: Mazzoleni is from Bergamo... there is also his brother.
Bergamo: Yes, he is good and young. He has good numbers and has good promise.
Facchetti: No problem.
Bergamo: Listen, can you get me some tickets for Sunday for a client.
Facchetti: No problem, call me Friday or Saturday. Call me and...
Bergamo: Good luck.
Facchetti: Please... tell him.
Bergamo: Consider it done.
http://www.goal.com/en/news/10/italy/2010/05/05/1910110/calciopoli-watch-new-call-between-facchetti-bergamo-emerges

There is no corruption for Moggi, it's no an accusation in trail of Naples. Moggi never calls referees, Facchetti and Meani (of Milan) yes. Moggi never ask "not to make draws", Facchetti yes. Other examples.

The sport sentence of 2006 says: "there are no illicit, just relationship with boss referees". But every team had them...but in 2006 phone calls were hidden and now there is the presciption which save Inter and other team.
Ah, I close saying that in 2006 the temporary president of FIGC was Guido Rossi, who was in the Board of Inter. He gave scudetto to his favourite team, which was won by juve with 91 points (record in serie A).
He was also in Madrid to glory in the final of 2010 :lol:

In the first years of 2000s, Rome and Inter, after spending so many millions of euro in bad players, cannot win titles. So with the help of controlled medias (Gazzetta and Corriere della Sera which had a partnership with Inter, Roman RAI SPORT, La7 television with Tronchetti Provera - Telecom) started a campaign to underline every referee mistake, like they were a "conspiracy" again them.

Is AS Roma also ivolved in the whole scandal?

Curva nord thank you :)

Another operation "mano piuli" must be done :lol:

Ok, now it's the moment to return on the stadium
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per Axelferis

(use google translate or ask to Curva Nord to translate it)

it's what happened in the 2006 spring/summer



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In the first years of 2000s, Rome and Inter, after spending so many millions of euro in bad players, cannot win titles. So with the help of controlled medias (Gazzetta and Corriere della Sera which had a partnership with Inter, Roman RAI SPORT, La7 television with Tronchetti Provera - Telecom) started a campaign to underline every referee mistake, like they were a "conspiracy" again them.
So, there is an incredible phone call between referees boss Bergamo, and president of FIGC Carraro, in which Carraro says Rodomonti (referee of Inter-Juve) can be wrong in favour of Inter, NOT in favour of Juventus, because he is afraid of media consequences.

In 2006 medias amplify the echoes of calciopoli, with the help of corrupted journalist, because there was of a enemy of all which always win and it was too strong with his champions of the world, the Juventus.

The policeman who investigates, hides an incredible number of phone call of other team, and write a "romance" which tells of this tournament of 2004/2005.

We watch this policeman then speak with Moratti...:nuts:
Look at it (from 1:12 and 4:00) :)

XJaiWs0eGoA

So everybody were convinced that just Moggi had relationship with boss referees...but it wasn't true because we discovery that every team president call with the phone him.
For example, this phone call was hidden, and discoveried by lawyers of Moggi, just in 2010.


http://www.goal.com/en/news/10/italy/2010/05/05/1910110/calciopoli-watch-new-call-between-facchetti-bergamo-emerges

There is no corruption for Moggi, it's no an accusation in trail of Naples. Moggi never calls referees, Facchetti and Meani (of Milan) yes. Moggi never ask "not to make draws", Facchetti yes. Other examples.

The sport sentence of 2006 says: "there are no illicit, just relationship with boss referees". But every team had them...but in 2006 phone calls were hidden and now there is the presciption which save Inter and other team.
Ah, I close saying that in 2006 the temporary president of FIGC was Guido Rossi, who was in the Board of Inter. He gave scudetto to his favourite team, which was won by juve with 91 points (record in serie A).
He was also in Madrid to glory in the final of 2010 :lol:

Dude, I can understand your frustration, I really can! But,please, try to understand that you look so miserable by talking all the time about Moratti and Fachetti fixing all that to you. If Juve were that big they would pass by it until now.
But, NO, there is no Moggi and there are no results... I wonder why!!!
Many weird cases existed but, right now, I remember two - a game (I believe it was 2000 or 2001) when Iuliano smatched (like in voleyball), and there was no penalty,no nothing (referee was Braschi,I remember).
I think it was the same game when Montero fist-kicked Cordoba and, you guess, nothing happened.
The game in Milano in '98 was epic,and you know all about it.
So,it's quite ironic for you (juventus fans) to talk about injustice. It's just so wrong!

P.S. Nice stadium, really nice. And you should focus at discussing just about the stadium,at least at this forum.
Only if a stadium could play...

Dude, I can understand your frustration, I really can! But,please, try to understand that you look so miserable by talking all the time about Moratti and Fachetti fixing all that to you. If Juve were that big they would pass by it until now.
But, NO, there is no Moggi and there are no results... I wonder why!!!
Many weird cases existed but, right now, I remember two - a game (I believe it was 2000 or 2001) when Iuliano smatched (like in voleyball), and there was no penalty,no nothing (referee was Braschi,I remember).
I think it was the same game when Montero fist-kicked Cordoba and, you guess, nothing happened.
The game in Milano in '98 was epic,and you know all about it.
So,it's quite ironic for you (juventus fans) to talk about injustice. It's just so wrong!

P.S. Nice stadium, really nice. And you should focus at discussing just about the stadium,at least at this forum.
Only if a stadium could play...
At least you have 1 good comment about stadium. Thx..
On the other stuff it's OT, but I say this. All teams over a single season or many years have good, bad & indifferent decisions go their way OR not in some cases. People generally remember the big teams incidents (like you quote). And because people go on and on and on about these for years (like you have just now) it creates a false perception that favouritism exists.. Your comments IMPLY that results from past games have been manipulated by the refs..:ohno: Thats has never even been part of the debate from a Juve standpoint.. So its just ignorant to make your stupid comments.. There are too many people like you who feed the false propaganda of Inter born Calciopoli..:ohno: You speak no facts just opinion..
Back to Stadia...

Dude, I can understand your frustration, I really can! But,please, try to understand that you look so miserable by talking all the time about Moratti and Fachetti fixing all that to you. If Juve were that big they would pass by it until now.
But, NO, there is no Moggi and there are no results... I wonder why!!!Many weird cases existed but, right now, I remember two - a game (I believe it was 2000 or 2001) when Iuliano smatched (like in voleyball), and there was no penalty,no nothing (referee was Braschi,I remember).
I think it was the same game when Montero fist-kicked Cordoba and, you guess, nothing happened.
The game in Milano in '98 was epic,and you know all about it.
So,it's quite ironic for you (juventus fans) to talk about injustice. It's just so wrong!

P.S. Nice stadium, really nice. And you should focus at discussing just about the stadium,at least at this forum.
Only if a stadium could play...
juve wasn't born with moggi. Before him juve won 22 scudetti, 8 italian cup and all international cups. Do you mean that juve won because of moggi? what are you talking about? shame on you, inter supporter.

juve wasn't born with moggi. Before him juve won 22 scudetti, 8 italian cup and all international cups. Do you mean that juve won because of moggi? what are you talking about? shame on you, inter supporter.

Even so Serial... I'd like him back, because he did nothing wrong or nothing wildly different to the other directors.. I hope this link is a sign of things to come..?
http://www.football-italia.net/mar04w.html :nuts:

Yeah, yesterday night I watch his show on TV...he says is going to match this evening ;)

Today will be last real "big match" in the Olympic stadium. :banana:


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impressing days after days :)

Serial killer-> Can you stop to see the world in a binary mode? -> Juve VS inter fans...

I like the panels more as it is coming on....But they need to straighten some off them..;)

Serial killer-> Can you stop to see the world in a binary mode? -> Juve VS inter fans...
no, i can't:ohno:

Weren't those panels in the middle supposed to be black, as we have seen in the videos?

Stadium is really coming along nicely. Maybe you can give us a bit more of a show in your home stadium next year :)

Stadium is really coming along nicely. Maybe you can give us a bit more of a show in your home stadium next year :)

Lets hope so.. Milan played better, but not by that much. Poor game..Serie A needs Juve to return to playing at top level. And the other top teams need them too also.. It raises everyone's game with Europe in mind.. Generally even Milan are suffering for this reason.. Lack of tempo and pace. In EPL or Liga Milan would only be top 6 IMO. You should be worried for Spurs game..

Other SSC users,
It may have been pointed out but what is to be placed under the tri-colour in the open gap?

Stadium is really coming along nicely. Maybe you can give us a bit more of a show in your home stadium next year :)

who are you talking about?

At least you have 1 good comment about stadium. Thx..
On the other stuff it's OT, but I say this. All teams over a single season or many years have good, bad & indifferent decisions go their way OR not in some cases. People generally remember the big teams incidents (like you quote). And because people go on and on and on about these for years (like you have just now) it creates a false perception that favouritism exists.. Your comments IMPLY that results from past games have been manipulated by the refs..:ohno: Thats has never even been part of the debate from a Juve standpoint.. So its just ignorant to make your stupid comments.. There are too many people like you who feed the false propaganda of Inter born Calciopoli..:ohno: You speak no facts just opinion..
Back to Stadia...

Interesting!
I also find many of your coments stupid but I have no energy or time to analize all of them like you do. Actually,a few of you zebras,not just you.
Interesting thing is that you didn't try to explain those "offtopic" examples.
And,please,try not to be so rude replying to my comments. It's pathetic.

P.S. I'm a Viola fan!

Interesting!
I also find many of your coments stupid but I have no energy or time to analize all of them like you do. Actually,a few of you zebras,not just you.
Interesting thing is that you didn't try to explain those "offtopic" examples.
And,please,try not to be so rude replying to my comments. It's pathetic.

P.S. I'm a Viola fan!

Say's and explains it all. Purple ignorance!
You will be crying about Baggio next..Wow..:lol:

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Lets hope so.. Milan played better, but not by that much. Poor game..Serie A needs Juve to return to playing at top level. And the other top teams need them too also.. It raises everyone's game with Europe in mind.. Generally even Milan are suffering for this reason.. Lack of tempo and pace. In EPL or Liga Milan would only be top 6 IMO. You should be worried for Spurs game..

Other SSC users,
It may have been pointed out but what is to be placed under the tri-colour in the open gap?

Not much better? I though they could have scored one or two more goals easily. Juve failed to get a shot on target, only 3 shots all game, all off target. Milan have been good all this season but never really great. Napoli match was probably highlight of the season since the restart.

I am very worried about the Spurs game, I don't know how we can possibly qualify but I must hope for the best but expect the worst.

who are you talking about?

I was referring to the Juve - Milan match.


On topic: I have heard that due to various delays it won't be finished on time, is this true? I mean, if it comes down to a few days/ couple of weeks, couldn't they just work longer hours? I know Italians are not known for their hard work but it would be sad if it wouldn't be ready for the start of the season.

On topic: I have heard that due to various delays it won't be finished on time, is this true? I mean, if it comes down to a few days/ couple of weeks, couldn't they just work longer hours? I know Italians are not known for their hard work but it would be sad if it wouldn't be ready for the start of the season.
It will be ready for the first match of Serie A 2011/2012, of course. ;)
Also because for every day of delay constructor has to pay 75k euro to Juve.

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The roof is almost finished. So workers can start with the pitch :)

From Italian thread

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It will be ready for the first match of Serie A 2011/2012, of course. ;)
Also because for every day of delay constructor has to pay 75k euro to Juve.

Hehe well maybe delays won't be too bad... :lol:

one question: if turin don't success by qualifying during two years to champions league (this season and the next 2011-2012) will it hurt financial plans for the club?

Del piero will not the only solution each time they are in dificulties h'es old now.

Which are the new players?

one question: if turin don't success by qualifying during two years to champions league (this season and the next 2011-2012) will it hurt financial plans for the club?

Del piero will not the only solution each time they are in dificulties h'es old now.

Which are the new players?

I assume you mean Juventus? Remember they are the club, Turin is the city. It's a little disrespectful to refer to them as Turin.

Success for big teams such as Juventus will always come in cycles, and sometimes these teams have to have some years away from seriously challenging to rebuild and to re-evaluate the way to progress. Look at 2 teams leading their leagues for the first time in many years this season, AC Milan in Italy and Borussia Dortmund in Germany.

I don't follow Italian football as much as i'd like to, but i'm sure that Juventus will improve again next season, and be lifted by the move back to the new, modern Delli Alpi. More of an injection of youth and pace will help Juve move on from reliance on older players like Del Piero, although it will be a sad sad day when he has to retire, as he has been a truly fabulous player through the years!

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new photos of facade? progress...

No, it's always raining in Turin in these days...so no photos.
But there's a new virtual tour on the official website with new views from South and North stands -> http://www.ilnuovostadiodellajuventus.com/Pages/virtual_tour.aspx

View from Curva

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thanks to buran


sono passato da poco...visto che dovevo portare la belva a .....
stanno lavorando anche oggi ...
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lato sud.... .penso ...forse sefz
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zoom
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tribuna
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particolare interessante lucernaio finito .
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lucernaio solo coperto per protezione dalla pioggia.
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l'astronave ,curva nord..
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zoom curva nord
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qui ho zoommato un po troppo.. sefz
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questa è la strada principale come vedete lo stadio si vede poco.. .penso
pero' fortunatamente solo su questa strada ...
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BY GOBBO 49


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I understand the patriotism of the Italian people, but isnt a exaggeration those details in the national flag's colours, since the stadium is exclusively for Juventus?

The Juventus fans would not like more of an black-white esthetic in the stadium outside?

I hope i was understood. Sorry for the bad english.

Yeah, the big part of Juventus supporters would prefer just black and white panels...but maybe they can be replaced next year.
2011 is the anniversary of 150 years of italian unity, so I think they choose for the green-white-red for this reason.
Not definitive, I mean...also because it's easy changing panels.

I understand. Grazie.

The green-white-red is beautiful too, i asked just for curiosity.

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Curva Nord, brilliant job.

Any pictures of the inside? Haven't they begun work on the lawn yet? Or maybe even repost that diagram from the Juve forum of how it will be layed.

This diagram?
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the problem will be high tribunes! the same for all new stadiums! Bad turf!


do they intend to use those artificial lights spots for grass we see everywhere?

Maybe, yes. Roof almost complete.

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Yes, that diagram :) Thanks.

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Thanks to: TRAX by Tifosibianconeri.com

I want to see some inside pictures :)

Blanc provides: "Stadium? It will bring new investments"

MILAN, March 23 - Juventus at this time is not living an happy time from a sporting point of view, but the Juventus CEO Jean-Claude Blanc said "the new stadium opens new perspectives for the future, it is a strong signal. We'll see at the end of the season as we will place Juventus, but with the new system will trigger a virtuous circle for revenues, which will bring new investments". Blanc said this at the presentation of the Sports Business Academy course, this morning in Milan.

TRUST - The decision to start a new stage "has been taken five years ago - pointed the black and white CEO - after a major event for the team. We will have the ability to bring players into the most modern arena of Europe from next August. Only 100 days and stadium will be finished"
Regarding to disputes, Blanc is optimistic: "We have encouraging signs - he said - 75% of the premium seats have already been sold. Gil subscriptions start at the end of May and we'll see how it goes. Certainly a fan of Juventus is confident of the capabilities of the property to look ahead. "

VIDEO: http://www.tuttosport.com/video/calcio/serie_a/2011/03/23-21054/Juve%2C+Blanc%3A+%C2%ABNuovo+stadio+segnale+forte+per+futuro%C2%BB

Old photo (1 and half months ago)...but wonderful!

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(from thread AAA new stadium finishing)

Whats your opinion about the stadium being an all seater? Maybe you have had topics about it before.. But don't the fans prefer at least some stands for the ultras? I know its a lot of idolizing Germany's attendance but they do have a point and the fans will still be standing in their seats, or is it going to be English rules were you be thrown out if you do it?

Whats your opinion about the stadium being an all seater? Maybe you have had topics about it before.. But don't the fans prefer at least some stands for the ultras? I know its a lot of idolizing Germany's attendance but they do have a point and the fans will still be standing in their seats, or is it going to be English rules were you be thrown out if you do it?
I hope the second one.
In Italy for the law "should" be in this way with nominal ticket associated with the seat...but in north and south stands everyone sit in different seats from that written on ticket.

Da AAA, grazie ad Alextheking

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^^ Qual è il termine di completamento di questo stadio?

very beautiful dude, thanks for the info

^^ Qual è il termine di completamento di questo stadio?
It will be opened on august 2011. Just five months :)
Thanks to Gianni70 for next pics.

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what are the two buildings before the stadium?

Shopping centres

with foods or just juve things?

with foods or just juve things?

with food, clothing and everything else... and of corse there will be a big Juve store :)

with food, clothing and everything else... and of corse there will be a big Juve store :)

not exactly

not exactly

ok, if is not exact...explain with exactness in few words without unnecessarily discolsing...:okay:

Hi all, i appollogise if this has been done before (i've only been following the thread sporadically) but i have a question about the towers structure;

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Now i assumed that the towers acted like a cable stay bridge, holding up the trusses [that sort of act like a compression ring] over the stadium that in turn hold up the roof. But the towers don't support themselves? ^^^

Instead they need support to be tethered to the ground? And in turn they hold the weight of the roof. meaning the whole load is taken on the tensile strength of the anchoring cables. So the towers dont add to the structural strength of the entire structure, they just increase the workload of the cables?

Have i got this wrong and they're not trying anything experimental and the whole arrangement doesn't seem a bit precarious, with one element resting on another element resting on another element.

I'm not questioning it's safety or anything, i'm just intrigued having never seen this arrangement anywhere else before. answers on a postcard please :)

Well, the stadium will probably have all the Juve merchandise one would need, so it doesn't really matter whether the shopping centre has a Juve store or not.

Finally, a modern stadium in Italy. It's been long overdue. Please let this be the catalyst for more.

ok, if is not exact...explain with exactness in few words without unnecessarily discolsing...:okay:

there are two differet 'shopping' areas.

the external one, which axel's spoken about, was solt to Nodiconad Company for a classic shopping center, with food, bricolage, shoes, clothes, tv, pc, sexy shop,...
34.000 m²


a second internal area (12.000 m²) remains to juventus and contains the core business of a football team like the fan shop, 8 restaurants, some coffee bars, museam, etc etc

this second area is the underground structure of the old stadium 'delle alpi'




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Hi all, i appollogise if this has been done before (i've only been following the thread sporadically) but i have a question about the towers structure;

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/9375/s7300017a.jpg (http://img19.imageshack.us/i/s7300017a.jpg/)

Now i assumed that the towers acted like a cable stay bridge, holding up the trusses [that sort of act like a compression ring] over the stadium that in turn hold up the roof. But the towers don't support themselves? ^^^

Instead they need support to be tethered to the ground? And in turn they hold the weight of the roof. meaning the whole load is taken on the tensile strength of the anchoring cables. So the towers dont add to the structural strength of the entire structure, they just increase the workload of the cables?

Have i got this wrong and they're not trying anything experimental and the whole arrangement doesn't seem a bit precarious, with one element resting on another element resting on another element.

I'm not questioning it's safety or anything, i'm just intrigued having never seen this arrangement anywhere else before. answers on a postcard please :)

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it's too difficult for me to answer to PrevaricationComplex in english



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All the Italian text in the image makes it slightly hard to understand but those are some great diagrams and explain it so well. Thanks, Delsa.

DELSA you are an encyclopedia of JUVENTUS information. Can you tell me anything pertaining to the the name of the stadium?

DELSA you are an encyclopedia of JUVENTUS information. Can you tell me anything pertaining to the the name of the stadium?

No news about. We don't know if sportfive has already found a partner...
the latest news was that they were trying to find it in france.

Sportfive is the company that acquired the right for "naming rights" from juventus fc (12 Years for 75.000.000 €)

Not being any kind of construction expert, I would imagine that the cables tethering the towers to the ground act mostlly in the form of providing an even balance of pressure and strain that that which the roof puts on them on the opposite side, and these cables tethering to the ground don't necessarily support the towers, but negate the forces put on them by way of the cables supporting the roof.

i recognize that the shp center is well integrated to the overall :)

Great stadium but i think it is a little small.

What is the reason behind to build such a medium capacity rather than to build min 50 k stadium?

Great stadium but i think it is a little small.

What is the reason behind to build such a medium capacity rather than to build min 50 k stadium?

beacuse in italy the average of people at the stadiums is too small. The average of Juve is around 20.000-25.000 so a stadium of 40.000 is more or less the right choice. is better a medium stadium always full than one of 50 often half empty...

beacuse in italy the average of people at the stadiums is too small. The average of Juve is around 20.000-25.000 so a stadium of 40.000 is more or less the right choice. is better a medium stadium always full than one of 50 often half empty...

Not exatly... Delsa has the numbers.. but the average attendance at old "Delle Alpi" (70.000) was around 40.000-45.000.

The choice of 41.254 is due to other reasons... first of all the premium services that Juve wants to give and to moderate building and maintenance costs.

I remember at all of you thats Juve stadium is going to build with private founds only. There's no European, World Cup or Olympic's incentives involved like in Poland, Ukraine, England, France and Brazil.

Not exatly... Delsa has the numbers.. but the average attendance at old "Delle Alpi" (70.000) was around 40.000-45.000.
...without pay-tv.

it's too difficult for me to answer to PrevaricationComplex in english

Dont worry about it, your English is better than my Italian. Beside physics is a universal language :) Thanks for the diagrammes i can see where i went wrong, in the photo's the angles are deceptive.

so P>P hence the 'tiranti', which begs the question what do the anchor cables do?

how is it when you add the anchor cables equillibrium = -d?

Oh and am i right in assuming d = future expansion :)

Not exatly... Delsa has the numbers.. but the average attendance at old "Delle Alpi" (70.000) was around 40.000-45.000.

The choice of 41.254 is due to other reasons... first of all the premium services that Juve wants to give and to moderate building and maintenance costs.

I remember at all of you thats Juve stadium is going to build with private founds only. There's no European, World Cup or Olympic's incentives involved like in Poland, Ukraine, England, France and Brazil.


Not exactly... I'm speaking about the Olimpico and about the last years attendance... This year Juve have 17 K subscribers...
and the stadium Olimpico have the averahe of 27 K (I never seen it full)

and the attendance that are you speaking (40-45 K) was the maximum average, after that always in decrease, 40, 39, 38, 34... so...

Not exactly... I'm speaking about the Olimpico and about the last years attendance... This year Juve have 17 K subscribers...
and the stadium Olimpico have the averahe of 27 K (I never seen it full)

and the attendance that are you speaking (40-45 K) was the maximum average, after that always in decrease, 40, 39, 38, 34... so...

it's a little bit difficult to have an averange of 35.000 in a stadium of 27.000 seats...

Dont worry about it, your English is better than my Italian. Beside physics is a universal language :) Thanks for the diagrammes i can see where i went wrong, in the photo's the angles are deceptive.

so P>P hence the 'tiranti', which begs the question what do the anchor cables do?

how is it when you add the anchor cables equillibrium = -d?

Oh and am i right in assuming d = future expansion :)
normally P>>P

V is the action of the wind('vento' in italian)

whit a hypothetic powerful action of the wind there is nothing opposing to the uplift of the roof.
'd' is the infinitesimal uplift which create a (little) rotation of the two tower and a stress to the whole structure


the last 2 pics are my (cheap) alternative solutions to transfer the cable outside the stands

it's a little bit difficult to have an averange of 35.000 in a stadium of 27.000 seats...

really? OMG can't belive this... :hahaha:

but I'm speaking that every kind of stadium built will be enough for Juventus... especially because in the city of Torino people loves Torino FC more than Juve!

so if a stadium of 27.000 isn't full every match... this is really so sad.

really? OMG can't belive this... :hahaha:

but I'm speaking that every kind of stadium built will be enough for Juventus... especially because in the city of Torino people loves Torino FC more than Juve!
so if a stadium of 27.000 isn't full every match... this is really so sad.
false.....stadio olimpico is not full when torino plays home. It' emptier than when juve plays its matches.

It's just a legend spread by factious media.

especially because in the city of Torino people loves Torino FC more than Juve!

:lol:

there are also the legends of Atlantis or Minotaurus...

the actual stadium is not fully for several reasons. the first one is the price of the seats, the second one is the technique situation of the team and others more...


it's impossible in italy to have an averange of 100% fully

the maximum averange in italy is 6o%

juventus in the last two years had a 85-90%

this year the situation is different, not only for juventus but for every team(tessera del tifoso)
before to buy a ticket for a juventus match you have to spend 30€ for chievo in the first days, than 40 or 70€.
for a mediocre show in a mediocre theatre.
too expensive, maybe...






(PS vai a trolleggiare altrove)

:lol:

there are also the legends of Atlantis or Minotaurus...

the actual stadium is not fully for several reasons. the first one is the price of the seats, the second one is the technique situation of the team and others more...


it's impossible in italy to have an averange of 100% fully

the maximum averange in italy is 6o%

juventus in the last two years had a 85-90%

this year the situation is different, not only for juventus but for every team(tessera del tifoso)
before to buy a ticket for a juventus match you have to spend 30€ for chievo in the first days, than 40 or 70€.
for a mediocre show in a mediocre theatre.
too expensive, maybe...






(PS vai a trolleggiare altrove)

bla, bla, bla...only excuses...and please stop behaveing in this way!

the fact is that a stadium of 27 K is a small stadium and it's a shame that is npot ALWAYS full!

so this beautiful new stadium with a capacity of 41,000 will be enough.

(PS non meriti nessun altro commento)

where plays torino now? and after juve satdium construction finished?

Delsa, Danielino spoke correctly. In Turin City, there are more Torino AC supporters...stadium when Juve play is full only because other Juventus supporters from Milan and Piedmont arrive.

Axel, Torino play in Olympic Stadium, and they will continue to play there.

bla, bla, bla...only excuses...and please stop behaveing in this way!

the fact is that a stadium of 27 K is a small stadium and it's a shame that is npot ALWAYS full!

so this beautiful new stadium with a capacity of 41,000 will be enough.

(PS non meriti nessun altro commento)
(è evidente il tuo intento e quanto tu possa e voglia apportare alla discussione. sei poca roba)

In Turin City, there are more Torino AC supporters..

where?

only because they put a 'bollino' on the cars or a flag on a balcony?


be serious

and anyway it's OT.

Thanks to: TRAX from AAA

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(è evidente il tuo intento e quanto tu possa e voglia apportare alla discussione. sei poca roba)

no, no, no...my dear, I have just answered to a question, so please stop speaking nonsense.

someone asked why a stadium of only 41.000 seats and I have answered.

someone said that the reason of this capacity is because of some premium service and the costs of the maintenance...

but the reality is another...without supporters you can't make a bigger stadium...

for example: if the Juve managers knows that Juve will have 60.000 supporters every match it would be insane to built a stadium of just 40.000 seats just because of the costs of maintenace...

but they know how much spectators they had in past and how much now...

beautiful picture Curva Nord!

I'm so sorry amico delsa but I come from Croatia, so please that things in the parentheses write in English and not in Italian) so everyone can understand.

http://i54.tinypic.com/2b1yc1.jpg
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no, no, no...my dear, I have just answered to a question, so please stop speaking nonsense.

someone asked why a stadium of only 41.000 seats and I have answered.

someone said that the reason of this capacity is because of some premium service and the costs of the maintenance...

but the reality is another...without supporters you can't make a bigger stadium...

for example: if the Juve managers knows that Juve will have 60.000 supporters every match it would be insane to built a stadium of just 40.000 seats just because of the costs of maintenace...

but they know how much spectators they had in past and how much now...

beautiful picture Curva Nord!

I'm so sorry amico delsa but I come from Croatia, so please that things in the parentheses write in English and not in Italian) so everyone can understand.
bayern had an attendance at the olympiastadion of 53.000 in a stadium with a capacity of 69000(75%)

they built a new stadium with a capacity of 67000 and not 55.000
with the new stadium they increased the attendance until sold out every math

at delle alpi juventus had an attendance of 40000 in a stadium with a capacity of 58000

50.000 will be the right capacity of the new stadium. but the decision was different
i accept but i thik it is not the correct one

is muammar al gaddafi involved in this project (with money)?

is muammar al gaddafi involved in this project (with money)?

NO! :nuts:

How high are these arches?

How high are these arches?

I think 90 m

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normally P>>P

V is the action of the wind('vento' in italian)

whit a hypothetic powerful action of the wind there is nothing opposing to the uplift of the roof.
'd' is the infinitesimal uplift which create a (little) rotation of the two tower and a stress to the whole structure


the last 2 pics are my (cheap) alternative solutions to transfer the cable outside the stands

Thank you finally it makse sense, i assumed the ----- was p minus the tiranti which were temporary. but they're permanent. how did this happen?

p>p, let me see if ive got this right, because of the angle of p, the stress on the cables is not so great resulting in z?

Very nice...:):):)

1 month ago I was concerned about the facade panels and the fact they seem dull and do not have shine... But as it completes further it begins to look very beautiful... It all starts to look like artwork...:):) Just like the delle alpi was, this will be one of the most recognisable stadia in Europe and one of the best / modern..:) Stadia should have identity, and this has as much as any out there + more.

Forget the talk about size & capacity.. Thats soooo old now.. Its been talked to death... We know it can be expanded.. so kill all that debate now..

Size aside, there is nothing better purely for football than this will be. Dont confuse this with me saying this is the best, but there is nothing better. It's choice & opinion from here on....:):):):)

Very nice...:):):)

1 month ago I was concerned about the facade panels and the fact they seem dull and do not have shine... But as it completes further it begins to look very beautiful... It all starts to look like artwork...:):) Just like the delle alpi was, this will be one of the most recognisable stadia in Europe and one of the best / modern..:) Stadia should have identity, and this has as much as any out there + more.


+1

It will look superb, i only have reservations about the striping on the towers. I prefered the old della alpi solution in that respect. but this is splitting hairs. The whole thing is a stroke of laconic genuis.

+1

It will look superb, i only have reservations about the striping on the towers. I prefered the old della alpi solution in that respect. but this is splitting hairs. The whole thing is a stroke of laconic genuis.

I can see why u say this, but I think they make the right choice. The tower have to be white and red (by law) because they are so high and near to airport (well near enough for law to apply). So they just added green and complimented this with the tri-colour around the stadium.. Look at the old delle alpi. Towers were red (with white). At least now they balance the colour with more white to compliment (black & white colours thru all stadium)...:okay:

Michel bastos (Lyon and before played for Lille :D ) will join juventus next year. Finally he 'll play in a new stadium (Lyon is far from done, Lille finish next year )

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Roof structure is finally complete! Just waiting for ETFE, now.

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Roof structure is finally complete! Just waiting for ETFE, now.

Just to confirm, ETFE is the transparent material in the roof, right? And this will go were the current blue 'things' are on the roof at the moment?

Michel bastos (Lyon and before played for Lille :D ) will join juventus next year. Finally he 'll play in a new stadium (Lyon is far from done, Lille finish next year )

Just so you know, as you probably do, Bastos is not yet a Juventus player nor has he signed anything so it is still far from being official. I think Juve aren't even sure if they want him after thinking it through seeing as he will be expensive and is injury prone and is more of an attacking LB more than a defensive LB which they need.


One more question, will the malls be completed at the same time as the stadium? I was wondering this since the museum will not be so will the malls?

The milaner that you are prefers that he signs for Milan ac ? :D

His injury is soon finished and a brazilian is a great affair. Don't forget he played last world cup...

Just to confirm, ETFE is the transparent material in the roof, right? And this will go were the current blue 'things' are on the roof at the moment?
ETFE is the transparent material ON the roof.
Blue things are instead created because of light which will be "get in" through this skylights...

One more question, will the malls be completed at the same time as the stadium? I was wondering this since the museum will not be so will the malls
Yeah, likely the shopping centre 'll open on august.

why is the etfe only going on the blue seams and not the whole roof?

why is the etfe only going on the blue seams and not the whole roof?
there are many kinds of colours and transparency of the EFTE

for example you can see the top of allianz arena

http://stadiumvibe.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/allianz-arena-6.jpg


all the roof of juventus arena is ETFE, but two different kinds of transparency

the blue one is simple temporary nylon on the roof for the rain


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ETFE is the transparent material ON the roof.
Blue things are instead created because of light which will be "get in" through this skylights...

Yeah, likely the shopping centre 'll open on august.

the shopping centre'll open in autumn, some(few, i hope) months after the stadium

last video:

http://www.youtube.com/user/goxzg2#p/u/0/ao-lIWVTzpQ

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This was last match played by Juve at the Old Delle Alpi in 2006. Only 4 months and the dream coming back home will become true :)

CURVA NORD are those the lcd screens from SONY that I saw up already at the north and south ends?

one question guys. Will juve have a new website next season, one which has social network plug-ins (facebook, twitter)? I thought that was the idea after they hired Federico Palomba. I think they should get the plug-ins because all the majors clubs have them e.g barcelona, real madrid, liverpool, arsenal, manu and even MILAN who have 3 million plus fans on facebook but is the least of the other clubs mention above, and IMO this also helps to grow your fanbase as this video will show (Manchester United facebook motives)....http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=883510820071

one question guys. Will juve have a new website next season, one which has social network plug-ins (facebook, twitter)? I thought that was the idea after they hired Federico Palomba. I think they should get the plug-ins because all the majors clubs have them e.g barcelona, real madrid, liverpool, arsenal, manu and even milan who have 3 million plus fans on fb but is the least the other clubs mention above, and also this helps to grow your fanbase as this video will show (Manchester United facebook motives)....http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=883510820071

soon 'on air' a new website for the club, a new one for the museum and a new one for the stadium


the new team web site'll be more and better connected to social network and mobile applications

you continue to amaze me delsa with your wealth of juventus information, forgive me for saying it twice. That is a bit surprising though the fact that they would have three websites instead of one which could cover all aspects and carry all the variuos needs of us juventus crazy people (me). It seems a bit time consuming but I will wait and see. Out of these three resorts which one is best or is considered the most prestigious Bardonecchia, Sauze d'Oulx and Sestriere?

I'm scare guys. I just read that this continassa project will take 10 years (as was revealed previously)and that JCB is overseeing the project. Does this mean that JCB will get a contract extension when his current deals expire, both as CEO and as a board member? Please say it isn't so pleaseee. He failed badly once don't give him another chance ANDREA AGNELLI.

Blanc 'll go away, very fast I hope, too.

is it true that the Agnellis want to sell this club?

No. But a large part of supporters wants it.

New photos

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with all the work still to be done on the stadium will it be ready in time for the next season? interior, exterior, playing field and urban area seems a bit much to do in a few months.

with all the work still to be done on the stadium will it be ready in time for the next season? interior, exterior, playing field and urban area seems a bit much to do in a few months.

Big question... nobody knows it...

Lastest news from unconfirmed sources says that the interiors are almost complete...

No. But a large part of supporters wants it.

And why is that?

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Grazie a .j1897. di AAA

I like it! :cheers:

anybody know the capacity of the top tier and the lower tier?

great works :)

Grazie a .j1897. di AAA

From the second pic, you can see how the shadow of the image will be like. Only small amount of sunlight gets to pass thru the parts covered by translucent ETFE. It won't really messed up the pitch as compared having only ETFE covering all parts of the roof. :)

What a great stadium!!

greetings from The Hague

Vikingjuve e North Side amici per sempre

Its still to early to judge but I like what I see so far. Much better than that huge old athletics stadium. Much more appropriate for a club of Juve's stature.

Today we win, -6 points (6 matches left to the end of season) to fourth place which give qualification in CL. Difficult but not impossibile :)
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^^ Good progress... :okay:

Its still to early to judge but I like what I see so far. Much better than that huge old athletics stadium. Much more appropriate for a club of Juve's stature.

Mostly agree!
It wasnt old though! ;)

Today we win, -6 points (6 matches left to the end of season) to fourth place which give qualification in CL. Difficult but not impossibile :)

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If they win all 6 games they will qualify, I am sure. But they only have now won 3 games in a row, so to do 9 in a row.... I hope, but do not see will happen..We pray..:angel1:

At the end of a picture from inside the stadium
seems great

by tuttosport




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how is the heating system normally set up?

Is the seating pattern from the 1st post still in force?

Is the seating pattern from the 1st post still in force?
Yes.

From AAA thanks to Buran

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nice stadium

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in francia l'interno dello stadio non è un mistero:
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it's a great emotion!!:cheers:

very small LED screen :ohno:

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Will this new stadium host big concerts as well?

That's what Stadio delle Alpi did.

Does anyone know for sure?

I'm just curious.

very small LED screen :ohno:

.

Its perfectly sized.

Big screens were never really European thing.

I like those glass panels btw.. looks great.

the led seems correct for its size but the space where it is putted is a joke!

it hides some spectators :ohno:

View won't be obstructed.

Its position is perfectly fine.

are you sure? i mean i guess spectators will see the whole pitch...but not the whole stadium :D

are you sure? i mean i guess spectators will see the whole pitch...but not the whole stadium :D
They can buy ticket in the first tier :D

@ Axelferis: Maybe not ze whole stadium, but won't be worse than Emirates or Old trafford :yes:

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Super Gianni :banana:
^^

http://www.ilnuovostadiodellajuventus.com/Contents/Images/Lavori/image6635.jpg
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This stadium is really nice... One of the best. Simple and interesting interior and unique exterior.. it's one of my fauvorites.