Nothing new, but this was the first time that I saw tha stadium live :D

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the led seems correct for its size but the space where it is putted is a joke!

it hides some spectators :ohno:

NOT SO! Spectators look down at the pitch.... not the other end of the roof!

And for the user before (not Axel) who said the LED is too small, Why is a big screen needed when you are so close to the pitch?
I think you are used to stadium that fans are that far away, they need it... Silly point..:ohno:

@ Axelferis: Maybe not ze whole stadium, but won't be worse than Emirates or Old trafford :yes:

Any Worse? It will put emirates and old trafford to shame! Compare a new project stats (distance to goal line, seats design, steepness of tiers etc) and it doesnt need to compare....:)

lol Ash is back :lol:

lol Ash is back :lol:

Some time... very busy these days..:)

It must be very close to the start of the pitch being prepared?
Soil, heating, turf, cultivation......?

^^I think the last updates show they perhaps leveling the place and to start all those procedures then.

Nothing new, but this was the first time that I saw tha stadium live :D

Tell us your impressions...

New photos...
Da AAA.....

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Tell us your impressions...

It's a very beautiful stadium, from the pics maybe doesn't seems, but it is impressive from the outside, and those arcs (pennoni) are something unique...


:nuts:

what a shame these rods!

Damned cables.

Don't say to me those cables are permanent?! :nuts:

A joke i hope?! :eek:

Noooooo! :lol:

And the seats?! :nuts: The hell?

:ohno: Omg the seats scaring me..

Don't say to me those cables are permanent?! :nuts:

A joke i hope?! :eek:

Noooooo! :lol:



yes we have the most coolest coverage on the whole planet. Very light, just kept on by 4 rods outside and 8 rods inside the stadium:nuts::banana::banana:




:ohno:

The seats.... Oh no.

HOW CAN ARCHITECTS PLAN A STADIUM WITH MAXIMUM VISIBILITY AND THEN PLACE CABLES TO HINDER THE VIEW OF THE PAYING PUBLIC. THAT IS JUST HORRENDOUS

HOW CAN ARCHITECTS PLAN A STADIUM WITH MAXIMUM VISIBILITY AND THEN PLACE CABLES TO HINDER THE VIEW OF THE PAYING PUBLIC. THAT IS JUST HORRENDOUS
Ask to monsieur Blanc...he is the "deus ex machina" of this stadium :ohno:

HOW CAN ARCHITECTS PLAN A STADIUM WITH MAXIMUM VISIBILITY AND THEN PLACE CABLES TO HINDER THE VIEW OF THE PAYING PUBLIC. THAT IS JUST HORRENDOUS

anyway beside the cables this is a great stadium. It could be perfect i know, but the damage is already done.:)

Noooooo! Why did they have to ruin it by adding those crap seats and stupid cables? :ohno:

How to turn a serious arena into a "low cost" stadium?! :ohno:

How to turn a serious arena into a "low cost" stadium?! :ohno:
It was a "low cost" stadium since the beginning of works...

http://www.ilnuovostadiodellajuventus.com/Contents/Images/Lavori/image4694.jpg

Email of architechts of cables

studio@majowiecki.com

www.majowiecki.com

These 'rods' everyone is talking about, is that the cabels that go from the corners of the roof to the ground? If so, we the f888 were they added? It was never in any of the videos....

Email of architechts of cables

studio@majowiecki.com

www.majowiecki.com

What am I meant to do with that? Flame them? The damage is done...

shame on them forever

Re: The Cables

By all appearances they're not support rods because the physics makes such slender poles untenable in this case, so they must be tension cables. Further, given the angle, which appears to be inward towards the center, they're not directly contributing to the force that keeps the roof up. Thus, my guess (which might just be hope, here) is that they're stabilizing cables meant to keep the integrity of the structural trusses until the roofing material is completely in place. Otherwise, since this roof is buoyed by the exterior cables from the 4 towers, the interior box formed by the major trusses would be prone to sway until the roof had been completed, possibly breaking the minor joints, beams, etc. Once the roof is done watch to see if these cables are removed.

As for the seat, I'd hold my breath on that until you see an official image suggesting that's the real deal. Even if it is, it's all the more incentive for fans to be standing or at least on the edge, actually involved in the game rather than getting so comforatable as to fall asleep.

One man's opinion, anyway.

I think I read (in this very thread in fact) that those cables are in fact tension cables and will not be removed once the stadium is finished. I think there were miscalculations when the roof was designed and it was discovered that the roof would sway dangerously in high winds with just the 2 roof columns holding it in place. I could be wrong but Im sure I read all that here?

Anyway I was really beginning to like the look of this stadium and now I cant stop seeing those irritating bl**dy cables each time I look at the pics. Necessary or not they for me they really spoil what should be a cracking stadium.

shame on them forever

Inter conspiration :lol: moratti give an extra to the architect.

Just joking i know you are sad. I'm with compassion to juve fans especially guys like Ash who expected so much from this stadium :)

I think I read (in this very thread in fact) that those cables are in fact tension cables and will not be removed once the stadium is finished. I think there were miscalculations when the roof was designed and it was discovered that the roof would sway dangerously in high winds with just the 2 roof columns holding it in place. If this is true that's totally asinine, especially given the efforts by the club to finally bring such a fair venue to Italy. Such cables would be the cheapest resolution, by far, and their impact on the view is far less than traditional supporting columns, but even then Juve shouldn't be so cash poor that they couldn't afford a secondary bracing system within and outside the roof structure itself. They could likely have even used a cable wrap on top, comparable to decorative ribbons on a gift.

Again, if true, I wonder if the discovery occured after the club approved the design? Depending on when the error was realized the club could've legally forced the designers to pay for the remediation.

I'm miffed, and I don't even like Italian football! :nuts:

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Altro ETFE, avanti siori!
^^

Inter conspiration :lol: moratti give an extra to the architect.

Just joking i know you are sad. I'm with compassion to juve fans especially guys like Ash who expected so much from this stadium :)
I'm sorry for you...but except for cables, the stadium will be beautiful ;)
Then I will buy tickets for next season in the middle of the stand...no problem of view ;)

love this contribution gunnerjacket, seems reasonable. u would be welcomed into the juventus family anytime. intelligent persons always wanted

Inter conspiration :lol: moratti give an extra to the architect.


could be....we have already seen things like that in 2006....

could be....we have already seen things like that in 2006....


:lol: you'll never accept juventus relegation punishment

:lol: you'll never accept juventus relegation punishment



no, since what's happening in Naples during the process trial:bash:
but you don't know anything:bash:

acoustic will be very good here :)

HOW CAN ARCHITECTS PLAN A STADIUM WITH MAXIMUM VISIBILITY AND THEN PLACE CABLES TO HINDER THE VIEW OF THE PAYING PUBLIC. THAT IS JUST HORRENDOUSGianni would never have allowed this stadium to be built. Unfortunately since his death Juve have become a second rate team and this stadium reflects just that. A small stadium with thousands of seats with obstructed views. A total discrace. Had he still been alive a bigger and better stadium would have been built, worthy of hosting a team like Juve. Then again, Juventus of 2011 are perhaps not worthy of playing in even this stadium. Blanc, Secco, Marotta, and the likes have been destroying Juventus from within. It could take decades before Juventus win another Scudetto.

everybody is sad with 4 cables in a stadium :mad:

i realize how a bad architect could destroy positivism attitude of people...

I hope some architects don't ruin in the same way other stadiums in the world :ohno:

i cannot put new juve stadium in the top 15 of european best stadiums, because of this mistake it is doomed :(

But it stays a good stadiums anyway. :)

i remind how good it was:

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Gianni would never have allowed this stadium to be built. Unfortunately since his death Juve have become a second rate team and this stadium reflects just that. A small stadium with thousands of seats with obstructed views. A total discrace. Had he still been alive a bigger and better stadium would have been built, worthy of hosting a team like Juve. Then again, Juventus of 2011 are perhaps not worthy of playing in even this stadium. Blanc, Secco, Marotta, and the likes have been destroying Juventus from within. It could take decades before Juventus win another Scudetto.

TOO Pessimistic Duck. I somewhat agree, but I think that's going a bit far with your comment of this stadium..

Inter conspiration :lol: moratti give an extra to the architect.

Just joking i know you are sad. I'm with compassion to juve fans especially guys like Ash who expected so much from this stadium :)

Cables aside, it will still be light years ahead of anything else in Italy. And I'm not convinced they will remain for that long anyway... It would not be that difficult to prevent perpendicular movement of the inner roof frame with some neat cable that runs outward inside the roof framework, running inside the facade and a 180 winch to create tensile force and from the floor. If they stay for now, will soon be re-designed.

Those who say this stadium is cheap do not understand.... It was about innovation & cost avoidance (this is why they buy the old delli alpi). By using the site / ground infrastructure from the old, they save probably 75M or more on this project IMO.
They buy the old stadium in 2003 (before Juve have the problems) No? So a strong Juve still had the same idea & plans before 2006, so dont criticise just because Juve do not have the same team today... Lets wait and see..

everybody is sad with 4 cables in a stadium :mad:

i realize how a bad architect could destroy positivism attitude of people...

I hope some architects don't ruin in the same way other stadiums in the world :ohno:

i cannot put new juve stadium in the top 15 of european best stadiums, because of this mistake it is doomed :(

But it stays a good stadiums anyway. :)

i remind how good it was:

TR6sKVYiAxQ

DOOMED? No.......easy fixed.. It is not HUGE RISK like Lille...

Top in Italy...
Fix cables - top 10 in Europe (but choice is everyone)
Best 40K in europe.

will this mean that our first game in this stadium will be a europa league qualifier? nooooo!

will this mean that our first game in this stadium will be a europa league qualifier? nooooo!

Very possible?

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See how a simple system located to the base outside the stadium skeleton could be used to create tension (basically tension can be created in any direction needed by the number and position of the cogs and wires)

TOO Pessimistic Duck. I somewhat agree, but I think that's going a bit far with your comment of this stadium..This stadium is average at best. Something that would fit a team like Cagliari or Parma. But, because of the horror stadiums in Italy it'll still be the best stadium in the country. That says more about the status of Serie A and calcio then anything. There are stadiums in Eastern Europe that are much more impressive then what Juventus are building. Not to mention the facilities in Germany, England. That's just not right.

Look at this.. this is Iran for christs sakes.

http://www.iraqpics.net/images/0gs7x4024rihc6pdzfg.jpg

It makes Juves stadium look like a cheap piece of crap.

Ya, with running track. Horrible for supporters view, maybe "good" just for architects.

I prefer the ours.

Should we really blame the crappy seats + inside cables on "Low-cost"? I´ve seen cheap stadiums with better seats than those ones. I´m not saying it´s an ugly stadium but some details can ruin the whole thing...

To those lamenting the so-called small capacity, I offer this: Modern economics favors clubs with right-sized venues. Look at the gate revenues in England vs Italy and you understand. It's not that Italian clubs have smaller venues but simply smaller crowds, and often due to inappropriate venues.

At 40k Juve is positioning themselves for a sold-out stadium for EVERY match, which will allow them to maximize ticket prices and thus per-seat revenue. It will also keep the atmosphere high. Further, keep in mind this renovation will allow them to hit the mark with the all-important suites and premium seating sales, because any expansion from here forward will most likely be more common seating (ie: less profitable).

The bottom line is this - If Juve could've easily filled a significantly larger venue then Delle Alpi would've been filled more often in recent years. It wasn't, so Juve is doing what EVERY major club (save West Ham) is doing in trying to create the best venue at the right size that will maximize sell-outs and per seat profit. Given the recent attendance marks I say 40k will be perfect, and that in the near future we'll all see how this venue will help the club greatly both financially and in terms of fan appreciation.

Count thy blessings, not thy lamentations.

Cheers

:cheers:

I'm sorry for you...but except for cables, the stadium will be beautiful ;)
Then I will buy tickets for next season in the middle of the stand...no problem of view ;)

Fair enough :yes: (.....)

To those lamenting the so-called small capacity, I offer this: Modern economics favors clubs with right-sized venues. Look at the gate revenues in England vs Italy and you understand. It's not that Italian clubs have smaller venues but simply smaller crowds, and often due to inappropriate venues.

At 40k Juve is positioning themselves for a sold-out stadium for EVERY match, which will allow them to maximize ticket prices and thus per-seat revenue. It will also keep the atmosphere high. Further, keep in mind this renovation will allow them to hit the mark with the all-important suites and premium seating sales, because any expansion from here forward will most likely be more common seating (ie: less profitable).

The bottom line is this - If Juve could've easily filled a significantly larger venue then Delle Alpi would've been filled more often in recent years. It wasn't, so Juve is doing what EVERY major club (save West Ham) is doing in trying to create the best venue at the right size that will maximize sell-outs and per seat profit. Given the recent attendance marks I say 40k will be perfect, and that in the near future we'll all see how this venue will help the club greatly both financially and in terms of fan appreciation.

Count thy blessings, not thy lamentations.

Cheers

:cheers:

Correct.

Just on West Ham though, its an idea that will probably pay off; there is no way that stadium is keeping hold of a track down the line. It might seem that way initially, but if West Ham are to occupy this stadium for the next 30-40 years at least, then expect a reconfiguration at some point. What West Ham needed was just to get the nod in the first place. And let's not forget that the location + transport links could open up the clubs fanbase in a way not possible with Upton Park.

This was a choice between staying stagnant, or opening up avenues that could bring unimaginable growth.

Should we really blame the crappy seats + inside cables on "Low-cost"? I´ve seen cheap stadiums with better seats than those ones. I´m not saying it´s an ugly stadium but some details can ruin the whole thing...

I have to agree IF they are the final seats they look poor. The published designs (same shape) looked better. we will find out for sure when are arses are on them..

This stadium is average at best. Something that would fit a team like Cagliari or Parma. But, because of the horror stadiums in Italy it'll still be the best stadium in the country. That says more about the status of Serie A and calcio then anything. There are stadiums in Eastern Europe that are much more impressive then what Juventus are building. Not to mention the facilities in Germany, England. That's just not right.

Look at this.. this is Iran for christs sakes.

http://www.iraqpics.net/images/0gs7x4024rihc6pdzfg.jpg

It makes Juves stadium look like a cheap piece of crap.

Duck I agree with your comment on seria A in general, but again you are way off and too anti this project...There isnt a current built EPL stadium that is better (man C , Emirates...NO!) look at the stats and whole project...This is a football stadium, not an arena so dont compare stadia which is of no comparison and has multi-purpose designs..Next you will say it has no roof like Lille project or Amsterdam arena etc..Stop the pointless comparison:ohno:

To those lamenting the so-called small capacity, I offer this: Modern economics favors clubs with right-sized venues. Look at the gate revenues in England vs Italy and you understand. It's not that Italian clubs have smaller venues but simply smaller crowds, and often due to inappropriate venues.

At 40k Juve is positioning themselves for a sold-out stadium for EVERY match, which will allow them to maximize ticket prices and thus per-seat revenue. It will also keep the atmosphere high. Further, keep in mind this renovation will allow them to hit the mark with the all-important suites and premium seating sales, because any expansion from here forward will most likely be more common seating (ie: less profitable).

The bottom line is this - If Juve could've easily filled a significantly larger venue then Delle Alpi would've been filled more often in recent years. It wasn't, so Juve is doing what EVERY major club (save West Ham) is doing in trying to create the best venue at the right size that will maximize sell-outs and per seat profit. Given the recent attendance marks I say 40k will be perfect, and that in the near future we'll all see how this venue will help the club greatly both financially and in terms of fan appreciation.

Count thy blessings, not thy lamentations.

Cheers

:cheers:

Thanks for a intelligent and accurate post! :cheers:

Is the roof liftable? incase someday in the near future there will be need for a larger capacity..
also, does anyone know how much other serie A teams pay to rent out their stadiums from the city? and what percentage of total ticket revenues they get to keep?

thanks, from Dubai juveFan

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@Gunnerjacket is completely right. I´d rather have an always filled 40k stadium than an 65k one with an average of 40k (and an 40k average would be way too good for Juve nowadays)
I think this Summer and a new stadium will be very good for them.

@kareem123 I understand that question but every time I see someone writing that on a stadium "under construction" I think it doesn´t make any sense at all. I´m no expert but that roof with all those cable plus "towers" seems that is not going anywhere (meaning going up)

@Gunnerjacket is completely right. I´d rather have an always filled 40k stadium than an 65k one with an average of 40k (and an 40k average would be way too good for Juve nowadays)
I think this Summer and a new stadium will be very good for them.

@kareem123 I understand that question but every time I see someone writing that on a stadium "under construction" I think it doesn´t make any sense at all. I´m no expert but that roof with all those cable plus "towers" seems that is not going anywhere (meaning going up)
To lift the roof at some point in the future would be very easy..pull the strings! if they did expand in the future - If they needed to?? IF guys.... they can simply add some capacity to upper tier, pull strings attached to towers and then the roofing panels need simply extending for extra distance..

hi guys,

been following this thread and finally registered as a member myself ... :)

I guess my question is still around those rods inside the stadium... I noticed those rods have always been there ever since they installed those cool frames (where they mount the main stadium lights).... just wondering if you guys noticed this too? I'm very hopeful that this is a temporary thing.... I just can't imagine Juve would accept the suggestion to install those rods inside the stadium permanently...

Unlike many, I applaud the management for going modest with the stadium capacity and how much to pay for it. It is consistent with Juve (classy, rich but not necessarily wasteful).

If there is one thing that's not Juve at all, it will be those interior rods....

Good stadium.

hi guys,

been following this thread and finally registered as a member myself ... :)

I guess my question is still around those rods inside the stadium... I noticed those rods have always been there ever since they installed those cool frames (where they mount the main stadium lights).... just wondering if you guys noticed this too? I'm very hopeful that this is a temporary thing.... I just can't imagine Juve would accept the suggestion to install those rods inside the stadium permanently...

Unlike many, I applaud the management for going modest with the stadium capacity and how much to pay for it. It is consistent with Juve (classy, rich but not necessarily wasteful).

If there is one thing that's not Juve at all, it will be those interior rods....

Unfortunately Juventus leadership was aware of this tie rods from the beggining.
I was praying that this cables are temporary but unfortunately this kind of roof need this solution with the interior rods. :ohno:

Unfortunately Juventus leadership was aware of this tie rods from the beggining.
I was praying that this cables are temporary but unfortunately this kind of roof need this solution with the interior rods. :ohno:

I wonder if it was possible to add more cables outside, instead of inside....

Whats up with this kind of roof anyway? I see Man. City have the same problem, they have so many cables outside the stadium....

In the end the cables aren't going to be a drama. The club will get on with things and it's success that will be mist important. This obviously makes profit and the club mIves forward.

I think this stadium l

Continued. I think this stadium looks fantastic, however a capacity of about 55-60000 would have been more appropriate I think! The extra 15-20000 do help with profits and I'm sure the stadium will fill against the big Series A clubs and the EUFA Champions League matches. After all Juvenile wants to play those semi final UCL games. Where their supporters, I assume, think they should be!

My I-Phone apologizes for the "Juvenile" reference above. No offense intended.

and what do you think of the seats? :D

I wonder if it was possible to add more cables outside, instead of inside....

Whats up with this kind of roof anyway? I see Man. City have the same problem, they have so many cables outside the stadium....

Check out what i say on the previous page about using pulley system. Its not that difficult to correct at some point...If they can be bothered to..?

and what do you think of the seats? :D

Crap! IF they are the final design. The preliminary ones looked much better..We see..

Crap! IF they are the final design. The preliminary ones looked much better..We see..
wasn't the mondo seat 9 always the oringinal seats for the fans (not the VIP)?

wasn't the mondo seat 9 always the oringinal seats for the fans (not the VIP)?

yes it's for the fan, and i don't like them very much, they are too thick but i want to see them when they are all set. The vip seats are definetely the top, with screens behind evey seat.

But the vip seats still great :okay:

i'm just surprised about the "normal seats" :ohno:
It's just a sign of disrespectful for fans

This stadium is average at best. Something that would fit a team like Cagliari or Parma. But, because of the horror stadiums in Italy it'll still be the best stadium in the country. That says more about the status of Serie A and calcio then anything. There are stadiums in Eastern Europe that are much more impressive then what Juventus are building. Not to mention the facilities in Germany, England. That's just not right.

Look at this.. this is Iran for christs sakes.

http://www.iraqpics.net/images/0gs7x4024rihc6pdzfg.jpg

It makes Juves stadium look like a cheap piece of crap.


first of all whats wrong with iran? iran is the oldest country in the world and also home of civilization, and today even with our awefull gvrnment, we have the world's number 1 science growth rate. and this stadium is not for iran , irans teams are mostly owned by the gvrnment and the gvrnment doesnt give a damn! it even says in the adress iraqpics.net,

as a persian i would know this isnt iran:)

But the vip seats still great :okay:

i'm just surprised about the "normal seats" :ohno:
It's just a sign of disrespectful for fans

actually the normal seats aren't that bad either.... they are actually of good quality... the one (the lonely seat) in the picture doesn't do any justice... :)

Here is the product page: http://www.mondoworldwide.com/Flooring_VenelliSeating_Products_Mondoseat9_en.cfm

in white they are terrible :ohno:

in white they are terrible :ohno:

look at this, the same model, in this picture they seems a diffretent kind of seats, very elegant, i hope the ones that are inside the stadium be a sample!


http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b311/photopaul30/Cattura.png

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b311/photopaul30/Product-Mondoseat-9_8.jpg

Does anyone know when the work on the pitch begins?

will juve be touring this summer?

@Gunnerjacket is completely right. I´d rather have an always filled 40k stadium than an 65k one with an average of 40k (and an 40k average would be way too good for Juve nowadays)
I think this Summer and a new stadium will be very good for them.

Were not talking about a small team here though, Juve are one of the biggest clubs in Seria A and were averaging crowds over 50K in the 90's. They've fallen on hard times since but alot of thats down to the matching fixing scandle and the fans dislike of the old stadium.

Limating themselves to 40K just seems very short sighted to me.

Were not talking about a small team here though, Juve are one of the biggest clubs in Seria A and were averaging crowds over 50K in the 90's. They've fallen on hard times since but alot of thats down to the matching fixing scandle and the fans dislike of the old stadium.
Limating themselves to 40K just seems very short sighted to me.
No, the reason is because of high prices (average of 25 euro is the cheaper price, 50 euro in the big match), advanced of pay-tv's, the team which actually is the sixth-seventh in Italy...while in 90's were usually first-second, also in Europe.
At least we know that stadia in the category of 40Ks are usually very good for acoustic and supporting, better than those bigger.

In my opinion is the good number. Better than a "white elephant" like the Old Delle Alpi, always half-empty.

actually the normal seats aren't that bad either.... they are actually of good quality... the one (the lonely seat) in the picture doesn't do any justice... :)

Here is the product page: http://www.mondoworldwide.com/Flooring_VenelliSeating_Products_Mondoseat9_en.cfm

Agree the mondo 9 on the company website looks neat, tidy and efficient. It's their top model...Hopefully the quality of the composite will make these high performance....The example in the photo though looks poor. Does anyone know the cost compared to other stadium seats of recent projects?

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Were not talking about a small team here though, Juve are one of the biggest clubs in Seria A and were averaging crowds over 50K in the 90's. They've fallen on hard times since but alot of thats down to the matching fixing scandle and the fans dislike of the old stadium.

Limating themselves to 40K just seems very short sighted to me.

Anfield (Liverpool) - 45k
Stamford Bridge (Chelsea) - 42k
White Hart Lane (Tottenham) - 36k
Weserstadion (Bremen) - 42k
Stade Gerland (Lyon) - 43k
Philips Stadion (PSV Eindhoven) - 36k

Even for those cases where said club is seeking to expand/relocate, their present performance and general appeal suggests atendance alone does not dictate status.

Conversely, some clubs show how great attendance alone doesn't guarantee success:

Hamburg SV - 54k
FC Cologne - 47k
Eintracht Frankfurt - 47k
Kaiserslautern - 46k
Feyenoord - 40k
Newcastle - 48k

If Juve truly is a great club, then they will someday be drawing 50k+ again. Patience.

why are so many roof panels still not covered with ETFE? did they run out and have more being delivered?

retract my previous post....

apparently these rods are for real :(

http://www.ilnuovostadiodellajuventus.com/Contents/ImageFolder/36880e8590b745d793f2b12c395838ac/S40257fe8cb7d4393b4572d4260cded27.jpg

why are so many roof panels still not covered with ETFE? did they run out and have more being delivered?
I think the video is old, filmed two weeks ago :)

http://www.ilnuovostadiodellajuventus.com/Contents/Images/Lavori/image2340.jpg

In last days there was more work to do in the interior, not on the roof or on the facade. ;)

Juve7, cables are unfortunately real...

guys... join Juve's official fb page... http://facebook.com/Juventus

also the website http://www.ilnuovostadiodellajuventus.com is pretty cool.. :)

@Curva Nord: Thanks! :)

If Juve truly is a great club

Their should be no IFS ASSOCIATED with juve greatness

^Agree, an iconic European club. And, considering Turin is one of the 4 biggest cities in Italy, it won't be long before they return to greatness.

If Juve truly is a great club

Their should be no IFS ASSOCIATED with juve greatnessFuture greatness is never certain, no matter the origin. But seeing as I am a guest I'll happily rephrase: "If Juve continues to be a big club..."

Cheers.

retract my previous post....

apparently these rods are for real :(
Then the response is clear: You fans must flock to the venue in droves for every match, so that they've no choice but to expand the venue and thus redo the roof! The rods will be gone and there'll be no more griping about the small capacity! :D

Does anyone have the interview with Riccardo Abrate that he did on juventus channel early today?

just found it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFZ7DprRji0&feature=player_embedded

^^Thanks. Those damn cables...

guys... join Juve's official fb page... http://facebook.com/Juventus

also the website http://www.ilnuovostadiodellajuventus.com is pretty cool.. :)

Did that yesterday ;)

Let's just hope people aren't deterred from buying those seats which have an impeded view. That said, it does seem like something that can be fixed in the future.

Can anyone tell us about the transportations to Juventus Arena? I heard that the old Delle Alpi had very poor accessibility, which was one of major reasons for poor attendance. I hope there are some improvemnets on transportation to the new stadium. I wish they fill out every match in this brandnew stadium.

Anfield (Liverpool) - 45k
Stamford Bridge (Chelsea) - 42k
White Hart Lane (Tottenham) - 36k

All three teams have given serious thought to expansion beyond those capacities though, very unlikely you'd see them building a new stadium that small.

Can anyone tell us about the transportations to Juventus Arena? I heard that the old Delle Alpi had very poor accessibility, which was one of major reasons for poor attendance. I hope there are some improvemnets on transportation to the new stadium. I wish they fill out every match in this brandnew stadium.

Idem....:ohno:

Can anyone tell us about the transportations to Juventus Arena? I heard that the old Delle Alpi had very poor accessibility, which was one of major reasons for poor attendance. I hope there are some improvemnets on transportation to the new stadium. I wish they fill out every match in this brandnew stadium.
At the moment, from city centre: metro underground (10 minutes) and then bus (15 minutes) and you arrive at the stadium.
But on august there will be a new line of "filo-bus" which connects directly stadium and train station, I guess.

10 minutes to arrive to the stadium is good :)

10 minutes to arrive to the stadium is good :)

I dont know why people complain so much about the transport to Delle Apli. Ive always found it quick and easy from the city centre. In fact I even walked it once.

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sorry, but i' hope that the moderator open soon the tread of grand stade de lille.

Thanks at asheventi.

^^^^:wtf:
Play,
I am still interested in Lille, but you cannot turn Turin into a temporary Lille thread. It will cause many critique.

I appreciate you trying to share progress. But we must wait and see if it re-opens.
I must admit I laughed for hours when i found Lille closed! :lol::lol::lol:In just a couple of days it went crazy:nuts: The project was not the discussion but abuse from users (all centre around the same person) and it almost become racist / fascist / discriminatory all together...This is why I think it closed! Shame for you Lille project followers. It's ironic that the biggest fan was involved in the whole thing being closed down..:cry:
I appreciate your facts. But wait for re-open of Lille (when?). Maybe mods can say? I am surprised nobody got banned, instead they shut the whole thread..Strange..:shocked:

Playolive-> i understand but you cannot do this :mad:

It is very bad publicity for our stadium if you do like that.

Just be patient. i think they will reopen when things go down.

Please understand that some a lot things lead the mod(? i don't know who) to close it temporary.

don't disturb Turin or others threads like that it 's not good :nono:

I'm not the only one responsible for the situation but a lot of off topic things in lille thread.

Just be patient but please remove those pics!

Lille stadium has NOTHING to prove or to be considered as a remarkable structure.

A lot of several forums dealing about it exist and a lot of praises and congratulations affirms that it is a Super stadium :)

then just be patient.

All three teams have given serious thought to expansion beyond those capacities though, very unlikely you'd see them building a new stadium that small.but as I alluded to earlier, 1) they've all proven that you can achieve/sustain global notariety with their currently modest venues and, 2) they're only considering expansion/relocation because those stadiums are regularly full. Juve is only "downsizing" their venue because they need to prove they can fill it at a smaller level first, then they can emulate the evolution of those teams we've mentioned.


For all this talk about 40k being too small I sure hope you guys do sell it out every game. If I see some highlights from, say, Juve vs. Bari with 38k in the stands then all this talk will be rendered moot, if not insulting.

Was their a bidding process carried out to get the rights to building the juventus new stadium?

Any new pictures of the Stadium guys?

why is this naming rights procedure taking so long. Walter Crippa said the name would've been released at the very first stage of stadium building so as to give exposure to the company and to the club. So does anyone know what is the hold up, by the way I heard NIKE and L'OREAL were interested in the naming rights, is this true?

Any new pictures of the Stadium guys?

Here we are

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i notice that a lot of guys stop to update news and pics.Is it due to those disapointing cables?

i notice that a lot of guys stop to update news and pics.Is it due to those disapointing cables?

you sitll alive:lol: axelferis ..get lost man...:lol:

i notice that a lot of guys stop to update news and pics.Is it due to those disapointing cables?Is there a quota to be maintained regarding volume of pics per week?

no just a question! don't be agressive.

When they start to put seats?

it's a very nice stadium.I'm looking forward to seeing it on tv =)

no just a question! don't be agressive.

When they start to put seats?
Just started :)

I still hope that the cables in the corners will be removed, when it's finished. It would be sad !

Any news about that?

No, they are definitive.

They are painting tribunes before add seats?

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They are painting tribunes before add seats?
No. Cleaning and sealing.

cleaning with high jet water?

It's just the rain of these last days which passed through the incomplete roof...

The part of north stand of the away supporters.

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The sign of the big captain...for the next and last season together with the Old Lady.
Thank you, Alex...see you in the new stadium :)

i think it is good and a minimum for a player who contributed to build reputation of last 15 years of this club.

He 'll see and play in your jewel at least :)

thank god for Del Piero! :angel1:

Anfield (Liverpool) - 45k
Stamford Bridge (Chelsea) - 42k
White Hart Lane (Tottenham) - 36k
Weserstadion (Bremen) - 42k
Stade Gerland (Lyon) - 43k
Philips Stadion (PSV Eindhoven) - 36k

Even for those cases where said club is seeking to expand/relocate, their present performance and general appeal suggests atendance alone does not dictate status.

Conversely, some clubs show how great attendance alone doesn't guarantee success:

Hamburg SV - 54k
FC Cologne - 47k
Eintracht Frankfurt - 47k
Kaiserslautern - 46k
Feyenoord - 40k
Newcastle - 48k

If Juve truly is a great club, then they will someday be drawing 50k+ again. Patience.

Juventus has more than 10 million fans in Italy, but the problem is that they have much more fans outside Torino than in Torino itself. And another problem is Torinos bad location, very far away from everything, because it´s located near the alps in the north-west of Italy. For people who live outside Torino it´s not that easy to get to the stadium. In that sense Milano, Firenze or Roma have a much more central location ;)

Another aspect is that the city of Torino is loosing inhabitants. The number os inhabitants in Torino is now just below 900.000, while 20-30 years ago it was (I believe) about 1,2-1,3 millions.

But still Juventus in the past used to have much more spectators than now. In the 90´s they had an average of about 45.000 spectators, which has now been reduced to only about 23-24.000 (partially also because that the Olimpico di Torino is a small stadium).

I think 41-42.000 is a reasonable capacity for Juves new stadium, because even when Juve was at their best they never had more than 45-46.000 on average. And for the last ten years they have been below 40.000, and considering that nowadays all matches go directly on pay tv, I doubt that Juve will ever get more than 45.000 specators pr. match again....

Juventus has more than 10 million fans in Italy, but the problem is that they have much more fans outside Torino than in Torino itself. And another problem is Torinos bad location, very far away from everything, because it´s located near the alps in the north-west of Italy. For people who live outside Torino it´s not that easy to get to the stadium. In that sense Milano, Firenze or Roma have a much more central location ;)

Another aspect is that the city of Torino is loosing inhabitants. The number os inhabitants in Torino is now just below 900.000, while 20-30 years ago it was (I believe) about 1,2-1,3 millions.

But still Juventus in the past used to have much more spectators than now. In the 90´s they had an average of about 45.000 spectators, which has now been reduced to only about 23-24.000 (partially also because that the Olimpico di Torino is a small stadium).

I think 41-42.000 is a reasonable capacity for Juves new stadium, because even when Juve was at their best they never had more than 45-46.000 on average. And for the last ten years they have been below 40.000, and considering that nowadays all matches go directly on pay tv, I doubt that Juve will ever get more than 45.000 specators pr. match again....

Mostly accurate....

Although Torino and Milan are almost next door to one another...;) It's not that far away from civilisation...:)

It's a true issue of fan geographic's. Lots of Juve fans in south Italy (far away), but there lots of fans in Milan too. So distance isnt the only thing. Lots of Juve fans in Torino dont go because of poor team, poor stadium (delle alpi disliked also) and pay per TV. In Italy people dont really travel even short distances unless their team is on the doorstep, otherwise TV! If fans had this culture in them lots of Milanese Juve fans would travel on the train...
Perhaps some will travel now with the great new stadium IF Juve have a good team.?
No team in Italy sells out..;) Juve will...:) Then we see what happens...

Last comment....you say will not average 45K again.. NO they wont'. Current stadium doesnt hold 45k. Unless they expand in future!

I'm certain the new stadium will do its job. I live in Seattle (pretty similar to Turin in many ways imo). Here, people passionately follow Seattle Sounders and go to the stadium on game days although the team is very young. That said, I think the Qwest Field plays a good role in the Seattlelites passion.

Qwest Field
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how much cost the construction of this stadium ?

how much cost the construction of this stadium ?
between 140 and 150 millions euro

???

Judging from the pics, I think that Juves new stadium has some similarities with the Amsterdam Arena ;)

Mosemar: why all those ????? :D

Platini is about to be placed!

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Judging from the pics, I think that Juves new stadium has some similarities with the Amsterdam Arena ;)

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There's a 20m gap between the goals and the first stands in Amsterdam Arena. Our stadium is way better! those seats look great!!!:cheers:

Will be really there this Juve logo on the roof structure? I think it's good.

Will be really there this Juve logo on the roof structure? I think it's good.

well i think so, Platini is there :lol:

between 140 and 150 millions euro

more more.... 170 :)

Noooooo

Judging from the pics, I think that Juves new stadium has some similarities with the Amsterdam Arena ;)

Mosemar: why all those ????? :D


not really... amsterdam arena has a very very compact/narrow impression, especially from inside....

juventus arena imo is very english, just neat/tidy and does its purpose...

(this will be the second time around Juventus following their English counterpart. They used to wear pink right?)

Noooooo

You arrive also there

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Will be really there this Juve logo on the roof structure? I think it's good.

I like it too.

I like the way they temporary solved the upper tier for possible expansion in the future. I think it would be quite simple and cheap.
Bravo!

THIS SHOT IS JUST AWESOME

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Platini is about to be placed!

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Is this going to be Platini & Del Piero?

No, the other guy is Gaetano Scirea :)

No, the other guy is Gaetano Scirea :)

awesome! :)

THIS SHOT IS JUST AWESOME

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Can i know why aren't the four corner ends of the roof isnt covered yet? Is that part of the desgin or they gonna put it up soon?

Why am I still underwhelmed by this stadium! I think I'll need to see it done before cheering for it! It just looks so cheap at the moment!

Can i know why aren't the four corner ends of the roof isnt covered yet? Is that part of the desgin or they gonna put it up soon?
My only guess is that they leave the corners for last because of the cables

Why am I still underwhelmed by this stadium! I think I'll need to see it done before cheering for it! It just looks so cheap at the moment!

Say why! Dont just talk crap without backing up views so we can understand and debate...:bash:

Live from "Giro d'Italia" which starts today from Turin ;)
What an hell yesterday in the city centre! :lol:

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Malvasia74 photoshopped this pic for us ;)

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Awesome :cheers:

Malvasia74 photoshopped this pic for us ;)

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We can better see the project, not just the stadium from this. The exterior to the stadium has been re-worked from the old stadium. You can see why Juve buy / save many 10's of millions by doing this..:)

I like the that the exterior is pretty much the same as at the old Delle Alpi, because I think that architectonically (architettonicamente, how do you spell that? LOL) the Delle Alpi stadium was already beautiful - it only had two problems: the distance to the spectators was to big and the stadium was to cold especially during winter...

I think that the new stadium will be very beautiful, because it keeps all the good things from the old stadium (the the extern architecture), but eliminates the bad things (the distance to the spectators and the cold).

We can better see the project, not just the stadium from this. The exterior to the stadium has been re-worked from the old stadium. You can see why Juve buy / save many 10's of millions by doing this..:)

How do they save money by doing this?

How do they save money by doing this?

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They use all the old foundations of the old stadium for pitch (lower than ground), External buildings for project uses, structural support, platforms for bridges to stadium. Imagine if they start from a flat piece of land and have to do all this from new? It would cost a lot... Nobody has ever said, but I guess they have saved 60, 70 or 80M (maybe more?) by buying the old stadium & land and using as part of overall project...
They paid 25M back in 2003 for the stadium / land around it.. Smart :)

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I can't believe that in this day and age they'd have pillars in the corners, has this been done on the cheap?

I can't believe that in this day and age they'd have pillars in the corners, has this been done on the cheap?

What? At each end outside do u mean? Look at the old stadium. It's called keeping historical architecture, unique look. Do they resemble the Alps? Delle Alpi (means Alps) think about it... Its done purposely. It's beautiful. Unique. Would you prefer a misfit stadium, that's aesthetically ugly, stands just re-built everywhere and a club that does not know when to build a new stadium?

What? At each end outside do u mean? Look at the old stadium. It's called keeping historical architecture, unique look. Do they resemble the Alps? Delle Alpi (means Alps) think about it... Its done purposely. It's beautiful. Unique. Would you prefer a misfit stadium, that's aesthetically ugly, stands just re-built everywhere and a club that does not know when to build a new stadium?

Those 4 inside the stadium wernt done intentionally, these ropes are supposed to pull down the roof because after the the engineers miscalculation it turned out that without these the roof would had been ripped off by wind. He was talking about the 4 inside.

Not enough money spent on engineering. Its still a wonderful stadium with a minor fault, i just wish they checked there maths.

It's a landmark...;)

edit: no, the ropes are not intended to prevent the roof from being ripped off by wind...the roof is just laying on the stands, so it needs to be secured somehow, not only against wind

This is such a nice shot and agle.
Very interesting room and perspective.
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Those 4 inside the stadium wernt done intentionally, these ropes are supposed to pull down the roof because after the the engineers miscalculation it turned out that without these the roof would had been ripped off by wind. He was talking about the 4 inside.

Not enough money spent on engineering. Its still a wonderful stadium with a minor fault, i just wish they checked there maths.

Oh.. There's a big difference between Pillars and cables (as the guy wrote Pillars). The cables inside are not exactly Pillars, like the A frames... His mistake of wording..I know about the cables. They will be corrected at some point soon IMO, so no point getting over exited. :cheers:

This is such a nice shot and agle.
Very interesting room and perspective.
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It really does allow you to see how much work and existing infrastructure has been used / Juve have avoided much cost. People following the project dont really understand this. When folk ask about how much, it's sort of irrelevant. I would actually call this project more of a MASSIVE RE-BUILD Vs a new stadium project... The photo shows why. Without all the old stadium used, THe WHOLE project (stadium, surrounding area development, shops, museum etc) would have been 300M + IMO.

Interesting discussions! You guys remind me of Axelferis with the way you talk about this stadium.

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Interesting discussions! You guys remind me of Axelferis with the way you talk about this stadium.

Wow! Thats an impressive comment.. And why insult a fellow user when he's not even in the immediate dialogue?

FYI. My opinions are somewhat calculated and fact based mostly..;)

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in a football results...:ohno:

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in this............we are still Juventus FC


in a football results...:ohno:

Blanc quits...:)

Mostra andare

2 major news Ash:

-Blanc resigns and will manage the new stadium of turin. he will take the charge of the structure leading the organization of the whole stadium activities.

-Juve reports a loss of 43,4 millions euros this year (at the end of march)

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An old pic ;)

This stadium has turned out a lot better than expected. It's rare when a stadium looks better than its early renders. Especially that exterior, looked incredible from that helicopter footage.

WORKER FALLS AT NEW STADIUM SITE

E 'Maria Vittoria hospitalized in serious condition this morning that the Italian workers fell from scaffolding during construction of the new Juventus stadium.
The man, MR, sixty-two years he was immediately rushed to the hospital where he underwent a CAT scan to see if there is cerebral hemorrhage.
Arrived at the accident site are labor inspectors who are making the measurements to reconstruct the exact dynamics of the event and to determine possible liability.

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The biggest regret is that next year we don't see this stadium in European Cups...but I really hope next year Juve will buy some real champion like Benzema, Bastos, Pastore and Aguero to win the Serie A title.

:uh: i hope the worker life is not in danger!!

Please the ones who think only to your stadium have a wish for this man and his family :bash:

A stadium isn't all in your life no?!

A shame hear those kind of notices. Hope he recovers fast :(

Indeed sad we won´t see this one in european matches but I think that on the following season they won´t miss. My personal opinion...choose other striker over Benzema...

last photos

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A shame hear those kind of notices. Hope he recovers fast :(

Indeed sad we won´t see this one in european matches but I think that on the following season they won´t miss. My personal opinion...choose other striker over Benzema...

They say between 100M - 200M euros to spend. Cash injection from Exor...We see. That type of money and only messi would not be possible..

No CL competition will not help though.

Lets hope the worker recovers ok.

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The old concrete anchors look like they were designed to be there..! Almost art deco.

I would like to see juventus give CLAUDIO GENTILE the coaching job to help rebiuld the destiny he help create.

I would like to see juventus give CLAUDIO GENTILE the coaching job to help rebiuld the destiny he help create.

I know we are OT but Lippi. Why not? he's Proven, loves the club & there can be no doubts about handling the expectation. And he's said he would come to the club should they ask him... And while we are talking about it, Moggi too. He's done his time (even if those believe he was more guilty than anyone else). But Angelli wont have the balls to do that...I would. It would be a further statement of Juve's stance that they didnt do anything wrong or different to any other club! Forget all this nice stuff (lets put tri-colour everywhere etc) and stand tall. Make a statement of intent....! If they have got all this money, then give it to the proven experts, rather than risky employee's (Marotta). It's time to be bold and not waste a chance to regain Juve's true position. Who at the club has proven themselves at a club the size of Juve? Del Neri? Marotta?, Players? NO? (only Buffon & DP) the mix is soooo wrong...
Who of the possible mangers to replace DN is proven at this level? Mazzarri? Conte? Spalletti? ALL NO..! Van Gaal - maybe? Mancini - forget it.. He only benefits from scandals and huge budgets...
So bank on a sure things. It's no time for risk taking. They want to pay 3 - 4M a year for Pirlo? Whats more important? Pay that kind of money and get the right coach / GM. Buy stars & not average over paid players... I just hope Agnelli has got a brain and the balls to do what is needed..

the seats look gorgeous

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Fucking awesome! I guess in a month and half seats will be all installed.

the seats look gorgeous

We can see Platini's bollocks...:lol:

Looks cools...........:)

the second (1 San Siro) FOOTBALL stadium in italy ! now Serie A need built 18 more..

olympic track, the cancer of football. go juventus!

the second (1 San Siro) FOOTBALL stadium in italy ! now Serie A need built 18 more..

What about Stadio Luigi Ferraris for Sampdoria and Genoa? There, now you're down to needing just 16. :)

Sampdoria has to face relegation, sadly. But Stadio Manuzzi in Cesena is a football oriented stadium too;)

Doria will go down.. but Genoa is still up.. so.. it still remains Serie A venue :)

Shame that Triestina is so bad this days.. their stadium is quite nice.

Parma has football stadium too.

Ye but its rubbish :D

Wow! Thats an impressive comment.. And why insult a fellow user when he's not even in the immediate dialogue?

FYI. My opinions are somewhat calculated and fact based mostly..;)

What insult?
Are you normal???

Ye but its rubbish :D

Last winter,a game at Tardini was cancelled because there was too much snow and ice on the stands. They feared that the fans could hurt themselves. It was a little sad thing from a country like Italy. Although,the field was easily cleaned.

Italy is a developed country but their sport management & marketing is no match and way behind to that of their English counterpart.... Germany is probably number 1 now in terms of management/marketing.

italian football was huge and was number one... it got complacent and fell asleep... they just recently realized their stadiums suck....

What insult?
Are you normal???

I'm sorry I misunderstood your comment. So it wasnt an insult by making a comparison to Axelferris? Forgive me for assuming your sarcasm.

Yes I'm normal. :)

Ash, maybe it's better you stay in UK sunday, there it will be a crapping and sad last match :lol:
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Ye but its rubbish :D

It's not a beauty, but it's good for atmosphere :banana:

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Different point of view

the circle gap in the roof above tribunes are for the lights ? :uh: if so very well integration!!

Yes:)

Posto anche qui.

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Sunday there will be finally the last match in the cursed olympic stadium. Next match of Serie A we'll come back home.

Ash, maybe it's better you stay in UK sunday, there it will be a crapping and sad last match :lol:

:lol: I will join in the crapping of the doomed stadium olympic.

If I am optimist, there is a very small chance for Europe. At least it still means Juve have to try and win the game...hard as it is I know.. I'll PM you.

Does anybody know who our first opponent is on the new stadium ?
for historical reasons I hope it is either Nottingham Forest or our cousins Torino.


Offtopic: How many of you think that after what the Atomic Ant did to us in the last match we need to bring Giovinco back?

juventus' only hope remains in angellis hands, he MUST look at things from an outsiders perspective.. sack marrota and delneri.. bring back lippi and moggi.. oh what a dream that would be.. Perfection.

and in my opinion there is no way that giovinco will come back, not because he scored goals against us.. but because he has said that he would rather remain at parma, and also because of his bad relationship with ADP

[QUOTE=kareem123;77952525]juventus' only hope remains in angellis hands, he MUST look at things from an outsiders perspective.. sack marrota and delneri.. bring back lippi and moggi.. oh what a dream that would be.. Perfection.

Oh I love you man... Ive been saying this for months AND recently.. Check it out if you didnt see it before...

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=77748589&postcount=1685

The return of Moggi...it's the dream of every juventino who wanna his team become again strong and winner like until 2006.
But it won't be, hope at least two scudetti return back to us :bash:

PS: Moratti without embarrassment -> http://www.vecchiasignora.com/topic/191263-moratti-alle-iene-le-magagne-durante-calciopoli-cerano-sicuramente/? :ohno::ohno::ohno:

Dont bring back moggi..... i like him and he is brilliant, only problem moggi has that mafialike figure.... people always think bad/negatively of him... he can however work by proxy... :D

first thing first though... bring first class coach.... I don't mind Lippi, but Carlo Ancelotti might be available and he deserves a second chance with Juve.....

nice stadium,!!!! awsome

and let see our project in Indonesia!

stadium for national Olympic national level is implemented in 2012 too...

visit us
national stadium (http://suasanapekanbaru.blogspot.com/2011/05/update-terbaru-stadion-utama-pon-2012.html)

return of moggi-> :lol: :lol:

Please don't restart again the mafia face of this club!

It will destroy the positive effect of stadium that renew juve face.

return of moggi-> :lol: :lol:

Please don't restart again the mafia face of this club!

It will destroy the positive effect of stadium that renew juve face.

Juventus and Moggi were no more guilty than other top clubs like Milan or Inter (Moggi compared to Milans Berlusconi is a saint LOL), but hadn´t Italy´s president Berlusconi to protect them against being send to Serie B. And hadn´t the telephone company Telecom Italia (sponsor of Inter) to manipulate the investigation ;)

It was all a conspiration against Juventus, several documents have shown this...

But I do agree that I don´t want Moggi back. Because he is almost 75 years old and belongs to the past. I think it´s better to give a younger manager the chance. Until now Marotta has not been able to replace Moggi, but let´s give him one more chance.....

But okay, now I am going off topic...

the problem with juve was they chose not to fight at that time and rather 'accepted' blame, something they later regretted (hence the recent investigation involving Inter/Moratti).

Moggi was right all along... just about every club involved was guilty of getting too cozy with the referees.....

Juve had the power to power-play but it chose not to.... Ferrari wouldn't have let anything like this happen to them in F1... they would have kicked some serious asses....

who thinks that the 2 missing scuddeti will come back in june? and who thinks that there will be a huge cash in compensation for serie b demotion ?

june is the final court ruling

who thinks that the 2 missing scuddeti will come back in june? and who thinks that there will be a huge cash in compensation for serie b demotion ?

Definitely not me. The FIGC, even if they realize and there is evidence that they are blatantly wrong and made the incorrect decision, would not reverse the decision out of stubbornness. Time to let it go, mate.

return of moggi-> :lol: :lol:

Please don't restart again the mafia face of this club!

It will destroy the positive effect of stadium that renew juve face.
the only mafia faces i know in italian football are moratti and galliani/berlusconi.

http://www.goal.com/en/news/1717/editorial/2011/05/18/2492040/buffon-nedved-ibrahimovic-vs-tiago-poulsen-rinaudo-how

Been sneeking around without registering for a while, following the development of this particular stadium. It's gonna be a great boost for Juventus' atmosphere & economy. The clubs income will now surpass everyone else in the Serie A right?

Hopefully this will signal the start of a new era for Italian football, where stadiums are owned by the football clubs & have no running tracks.

Btw gotta love axelferis

http://www.goal.com/en/news/1717/editorial/2011/05/18/2492040/buffon-nedved-ibrahimovic-vs-tiago-poulsen-rinaudo-how

this article is just a shame and partisan for moggi and the dark ages of juve management.

I don't want to insist and pollute this good thread. I like juve stadium but not those dark ages led by this dark guru.

sorry guys! stadium will be great but not moggi :)

Serial killer -> Moratti is a great president. if some suspiscious evidences exist it's not his fault but perhaps the managers below him

this article is just a shame and partisan for moggi and the dark ages of juve management.

I don't want to insist and pollute this good thread. I like juve stadium but not those dark ages led by this dark guru.

sorry guys! stadium will be great but not moggi :)

Serial killer -> Moratti is a great president. if some suspiscious evidences exist it's not his fault but perhaps the managers below him



Axel please don't say anything that you don't know! !! We all know about phone tappings from telecom run by Tronchetti Provera (very close to Inter).

We all know what's happening in Naples at the criminal trial. Moggi is showing his innocence and the Crown prosecutor Narducci is tryng to stop the trial, that's a shame! and the Italian press is a shame because they were the inquisitors back then on 2006 just because we are the most envied team in Italy.

this article is just a shame and partisan for
Serial killer -> Moratti is a great president. if some suspiscious evidences exist it's not his fault but perhaps the managers below him
you sounds like his son....you're not fair...your opinion doesn't count

Hahah i knew Axelferis likes Inter!

Anyways, back to the stadium please!

is the stadium capacity still going to be 41,254 like the thread title anno 2004 says? In FM it's about 45,000.

The thread's title has been updated since 2004, so yes, the capacity will be of 41,254k :)

First tier of East Stand is complete, regarding of the seats. Really beautiful.
Also starting the installation of seats in southern stand, now.

any pictures of it?

any pictures of it?
Here ---> http://forum.giulemanidallajuve.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=9287&st=2505
What a pity for the cables :ohno:

Here ---> http://forum.giulemanidallajuve.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=9287&st=2505
What a pity for the cables :ohno:
:nuts:
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/3176/tirantea.jpg

Could the stadium be easily expanded if they fill it for 3-4 seasons? In that case, hope they remake the roof so they can get rid of the cables/pillars.

it is my own understanding interior cables are meant to sustain roof from being blown away by wind..... whereas exterior cables help roof fight gravity....

Is wind a big problem in Turin?

:nuts:
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/3176/tirantea.jpg

:lol::lol:

Wait,are those cables temporary there or permanently???

Unfortunately seems like permanent. It completely ruined the stadium for me. Comunale > this.

the architects are working on a way to fix the roof design and remove the cables.

the architects are working on a way to fix the roof design and remove the cables.
it's just a rumor, not a fact. Sorry, but i don't believe that.

Unfortunately seems like permanent. It completely ruined the stadium for me. Comunale > this.

not at all:bash:

it was an economical choice, amen, beside the rods the stadium is great.

juventus could inaugurate the new stadium against real madrid

Any close up pictures of the seats?

Please stop the endless talk of the cables. There is little to say about them. Stop repeating the same things over and over again.

Thell probably use those cables to hang the net behind the goals, so it wont be so bad.

From AAA

http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/6007/curvasudstella.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/825/curvasudstella.jpg/)

hi

i wanna ask about the VINOVO , is it still our training center ?
and is there any reforms on the ground ?



hope to understand me, cuz my English is weak ..!

hi

i wanna ask about the VINOVO , is it still our training center ?
and is there any reforms on the ground ?



hope to understand me, cuz my English is weak ..!

isn't vinovo like the first class training center in italy? I think Juve is moving no where but i am not 100%... :)

Conte is a disaster.. its history repeating itself.. Get ready for another bullshit season everyone.. YAAY! Marotta is a joke.

isn't vinovo like the first class training center in italy? I think Juve is moving no where but i am not 100%... :)


i mean for the next season, is there any news from the club to change this terrible training center ?







http://im3.gulfup.com/2011-05-23/1306143565241.jpg


and what about this new land that Juve bought, is it has the new training center ?


thanks a lot .

^^
You should ask Garrone about it.
Edit,this was pointed to Kareem. :)

the stars from GLMDJ:



http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/157/pino2s.jpg


http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/545/pino1b.jpg

nice stadium... :okay: