Anyone going to march on Saturday?:banana:

Enjoy it! Bet it's going to be tons of fun. :carrot:

(love the avatar btw)

He always has good avatars.

My previous avatar was of the Russian Swimmer Alexander Popov. This one is the Canadian diver Alexandre Despatie. They're both so buff.

Anyway, saw on SABC Africa this morning that Nigeria has banned all pro-gay press. Anyone reading gay literature will go to jail. Anyone supporting gay marriage will go to jail. And anyone practising gay sex will either go to jail (in the south), or be sentenced to death (in the north). It is illegal for two homosexuals to even meet. :ohno:

I dont see what South African gays have to be so "proud" about. The current generation of young gays (eg 18-28 yr olds) didn't have to exactly fight for their rights or anything. It's just one big show. Mostly to freak people out which creates even more stereotyping. This is just my opinion.

Geez, put the phone down Russell! It's not gay lib we're talking about, it's pride. It's not about fighting, it's about partying.

True, we didn't/don't need to fight for many more rights - that was done before by others. But until the day when nobody looks strangely or with disgust at two guys behaving like a couple in the streets and shopping centres of Pretoria, Bloemfontein and Bellville, there is still a lot to overcome. So no, not about rights, but about privileges.

And who gives a fuck about stereotypes any more. Rember, you're unique - BUT SO IS EVERYBODY ELSE.

I dont see what South African gays have to be so "proud" about. The current generation of young gays (eg 18-28 yr olds) didn't have to exactly fight for their rights or anything. It's just one big show. Mostly to freak people out which creates even more stereotyping. This is just my opinion.


I must disagree with you there. Whilst we technically all have rights, many of these rights remain on paper for most people. And so you still get homophobic bullying in school; you still get black lesbians being raped in order to 'cure' them; you still get the Citizen and Daily Sun newspapers framing their newspaper headlines in ways that incite homophobia amongst the general populace.

This is what we have to fight for... and yah, some people might stereotype us all as being a bunch of drag queens when they see us prancing about at Pride, but it's a brilliant way of saying to people that we're here in a big way and that we will not be maligned as weird members of society.

Haha Waltjie, don't be as pathetic as to think gays have won their rights already. Even in the most liberal and pro-gay countries there are plenty of areas where it's considered disgusting when two men even hold hands. etc. etc.

There's a long way to go, buddy.