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GNU February 23rd, 2007, 12:09 PM http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/be/SV-Werder-Bremen-Logo.svg/150px-SV-Werder-Bremen-Logo.svg.png
SV Werder Bremen
4x League:
1965, 1988, 1993, 2004
6x Cup:
1961, 1991, 1994, 1999, 2004,
2009
4x Supercup:
1988, 1993, 1994, 2009
1x UEFA Cup Winners' Cup:
1992
http://www.werder.de/bilder/galerie/2007gross/weserstadionneuaussen575.jpg
The Weserstadion in Bremen/Germany will be expanded and turned into a pure football stadium
The Weserstadion currently:
http://www.werder-online.de/bilder/rubriken/stadionluftbild300.jpg
The new Weserstadion:
http://www.werder-online.de/bilder/galerie/2006gross/stadionumbauostkurve575.jpg
Stats:
- The capacity will be increased from ~43,000 to ~50,000 and the stadium will be turned into a pure football arena
- The stadium will get a glass facade/roof plus a thierd tier.
- Construction could start at the end of 2007 and the stadium could then be finished in the summer of 2008
Official website of the current stadium:
http://www.weserstadion.de/
GNU February 23rd, 2007, 12:13 PM The new stadium from top:
http://www.werder-online.de/bilder/galerie/2006klein/stadionumbauplan249.jpg
Profile:
http://www.werder-online.de/bilder/galerie/2006klein/stadionumbauplanseite249.jpg
A bigger rendering of the new stadium:
http://photo.citybeat.de/images/phot...ht=637&brand=0
www.sercan.de February 23rd, 2007, 02:45 PM it will become a 3rd tier
thast cool
but the distance to the pitch will be still big?
GNU February 23rd, 2007, 03:03 PM it will become a 3rd tier
thast cool
but the distance to the pitch will be still big?
Well, at the sidelines the distance is already pretty short because they lowered the pitch a few years ago.
Behind the goals the stands will be rebuilt to close the gap.
The outter structure will be kept though.
In the end it should be a pure football stadium.
lpioe February 23rd, 2007, 03:17 PM Good stuff. Pure football stadiums are so much better.
I heard Stuttgart wants to get rid of the 400m track too.
What about Nuremberg? I guess Berlin will keep it.
Martuh February 23rd, 2007, 03:25 PM http://www.werderpoland.com/werder/Weserstadion/Weserstadion3.jpg
http://www.falconcrest.com/images/hbweserstad1.jpg
It's a pure footballstadium already. There isn't a runningtracks.
Quintana February 23rd, 2007, 03:54 PM The stands behind the goal are to far away from the pitch to be considered a real football stadium though.
GNU February 23rd, 2007, 05:00 PM ^^Correct, thats the reason why they will rebuilt the stands behind the goals to bring them close to the pitch.
GNU February 23rd, 2007, 05:07 PM Good stuff. Pure football stadiums are so much better.
I heard Stuttgart wants to get rid of the 400m track too.
What about Nuremberg? I guess Berlin will keep it.
Well Nurembergs stadium is not too old.
When they built it they just made the big mistake of putting an athletics track in.
The stadium was also being renovated for the world cup (the pitch was lowered for exmaple) so it will stay like it is now.
Berlin has just gotten a big renovation for quite a lot of money so the Olympiastadion will stay in service as it is of course.
Even though they are now debating whether they should sell the naming rights.
But Stuttgart wants to change something thats correct.
They are right now thinking about either building a new 50,000 to 60,000 stadium. The other option would be to turn the Gottlieb-Daimler stadium into a pure football arena aswell.
I hope that they will built a new 60k stadium.
The current stadium is great for athletics but not for football. Even when turned into a pure football arena.
And the state of Baden-Württemberg needs something new and big to equal Bavarias Allianz-Arena. :D
www.sercan.de February 23rd, 2007, 05:41 PM so it will be like that
new tribunes (3 tiers) for the stands behind the goals
3rd tier for the old stands
new roof?
new/updated outside
GNU February 23rd, 2007, 06:03 PM so it will be like that
new tribunes (3 tiers) for the stands behind the goals
3rd tier for the old stands
new roof?
new/updated outside
Yes, it will have 3 tiers going all around.
It will also get a new roof partly transparent and with solar cells on top.
The floodlight masts will dissappear of course.
The exterior will be a full glass facade, but the current structure is being kept.
Btw: As i said: In Stuttgart they are thinking whether they should built a new stadium or to turn the old one into a pure football arena.
I havent seen this newspaper pic before though. Is it new?
www.sercan.de February 23rd, 2007, 06:19 PM its from 2005
so
werder is building a "new" stadium :D
GNU February 23rd, 2007, 06:32 PM its from 2005
Well then its too old.
The latest news came before the wc.
They hired an architect who already did the latest expansion to check out how the old stadium could be turned into a pure football arena.
The other option which I prefer of course is (as said) the new stadium.
Kampflamm February 24th, 2007, 02:59 PM Well Nurembergs stadium is not too old.
When they built it they just made the big mistake of putting an athletics track in.
The stadium was also being renovated for the world cup (the pitch was lowered for exmaple) so it will stay like it is now.
The Frankenstadion is actually fairly old, it just got a major make-over in the late 80s.
But it's good to see one of the last few relicts of the 70s disappear. The Weserstadion reminds me of crappy places like the old Müngersdorfer Stadion or the Rheinstadion. I still remember watching a game in Cologne, standing close to the fence behind one of the goals. You could hardly make out what was happening at the other end of the pitch. :lol:
Zaqattaq February 24th, 2007, 08:59 PM Looks great, I really hope Stuttgart build a new stadium in the near future
Martuh February 25th, 2007, 12:57 PM The stands behind the goal are to far away from the pitch to be considered a real football stadium though.
No. It's used only for football, right? It doesn't have running tracks, does it? So it's a pure football stadium already. And there's a difference between a pure and real football stadium.
ØlandDK February 26th, 2007, 12:23 AM That's cool...the current stadium isn't that great a stadium...And Werder really need a better stadium, with those great fans...
Same with Stuttgart btw!
GNU February 27th, 2007, 10:25 AM so
werder is building a "new" stadium :D
Well I would consider the stadium to be pretty "new" once its finished.
Think of the DaLuz stadium as a (bigger) comparison for example.
That stadium (technically speaking) ws also renovated and expanded.
Quintana February 27th, 2007, 10:52 AM No, the new Luz was built next to the old one.
GNU February 27th, 2007, 11:19 AM Btw. After the construction works the stadium should have 80-100 exec boxes.
Also, a pier close to the stadium will make sure that visitors can come by boat.
Here is an interview from the werder-magazine about the new stadium with pics.
(Its in german)
Part 1:
http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/7729/wsus1ee0.jpg
Part 2:
http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/4388/wsus2yc5.jpg
Part 3:
http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/1269/wsus3zz9.jpg
Part 4:
http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/401/wsus4yg3.jpg
GNU February 27th, 2007, 11:19 AM No, the new Luz was built next to the old one.
Yep, sorry thats correct.
I always thought that it was partly built upon the structures of the old stadium
:dunno:
GNU April 14th, 2007, 02:02 PM Great news:
Werder is now officially allowed to enlarge the stadium to 50.000.
Construction start will probably already be this year and could be finished by the end of 2008 already.
titou April 9th, 2008, 04:29 PM Good! i hate this stadium as it is now.
skaP187 April 10th, 2008, 07:55 PM Strange enough I allready like the stadium as it is. Incluiding the big distance behind the goals. It´s one of those stadiums I directly recodnize when there on television.
GNU April 11th, 2008, 02:16 PM Update:
The stadium will be turned into a pure football arena, but the third tier will not be realized for now (due to rising costs). The floodlight masts will remain and the naming rights will aparently not be sold.
Kampflamm April 11th, 2008, 03:35 PM http://www.werder.de/bilder/galerie/2007gross/weserstadionneuaussen575.jpg
Carrerra April 11th, 2008, 03:55 PM http://www.werder.de/bilder/galerie/2007gross/weserstadionneuaussen575.jpg
Is this the render of renovated Weserstadion?
Carrerra April 11th, 2008, 04:18 PM Update:
The stadium will be turned into a pure football arena, but the third tier will not be realized for now (due to rising costs). The floodlight masts will remain and the naming rights will aparently not be sold.
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GNU/What about the capacity if the 3rd tier going all around is not be realized? Origianlly it was planned to increase from 43,000 to 50,000 assuming they add the new 3rd tier to the current stand.
IMO a little increase in capacity would be possible because the running tracks are replaced by the seats if not 50,000. Any information on the revised capacity under no third tire condition?
www.sercan.de April 11th, 2008, 04:30 PM Too much blue
Looks more like a new stadium for Hamburg :D
lpioe April 11th, 2008, 05:17 PM I like the overall shape of the stadium, but the new facade looks quite monotone and boring in the render.
Construction of the facade will start this autumn and of the new stands in summer 2009.
cehtrziesl April 11th, 2008, 06:16 PM [QUOTE=lpioe;19566158]I like the overall shape of the stadium, but the new facade looks quite monotone and boring in the render.
This should be, because the solar panels are not only added to the roof, but also onto the façade.
(somewhere said in the article mentioned above.)
But i agree with you, it really looks boring, but Bremen is very consequent about environment matters.
Axelferis April 11th, 2008, 07:18 PM is it solar captors in the roof??
GNU April 11th, 2008, 07:31 PM GNU/What about the capacity if the 3rd tier going all around is not be realized? Origianlly it was planned to increase from 43,000 to 50,000 assuming they add the new 3rd tier to the current stand.
IMO a little increase in capacity would be possible because the running tracks are replaced by the seats if not 50,000. Any information on the revised capacity under no third tire condition?
The cap will pretty much stay as it is as far as I know which is a shame.
43k is just not enough for a club like Werder Bremen. Several smaller 2nd league teams are about to get 30k-plus-something stadia so just 10k more for Bremen is a bit weird imo.
Some things I dislike about the new proposal:
- The fact that they keep the floodlight masts because of some sentimental fans. The new stadium would look better without them.
- No third tier and therefore no increase in cap. Furthermore, an additional tier would have given the stadium some character.
- Why arent they getting rid of that tennis court and that swimming pool next to the stadium? Looks odd. I dont know whether the ground belongs to the club though.
- The interior looks slightly messy (especially in the corners) and dull, albeit much better than it is now.
- The way how the solar panels are placed on the roof in this messy way.
Im also wondering why they arent going to sell the naming rights if they claim that they dont have enough money to built that 3rd tier.
Yes, the fans dont really like it but thats not going to stop them from going to the stadium is it?
Carrerra April 11th, 2008, 07:39 PM The cap will pretty much stay as it is as far as I know which is a shame.
43k is just not enough for a club like Werder Bremen. Several smaller 2nd league teams are about to get 30k-plus-something stadia so just 10k more for Bremen is a bit weird imo.
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I don't still understand why the capacity remain same. The athletics tracks are turned into stands but no increase in capacity????????????????????
Ni3lS April 11th, 2008, 07:51 PM Looks great :)
Kampflamm April 12th, 2008, 01:15 AM What is this? Beams?
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/2668/kurvensk3.jpg
kazetuner April 12th, 2008, 01:33 AM aren't those the pillars that hold the roof?
Kampflamm April 12th, 2008, 01:55 AM If they're built like that there are gonna be plenty of seats with seriously obstructed views.
pompeyfan April 12th, 2008, 09:57 AM is it solar captors in the roof??
Yeah, i remember reading that there would be solar generators on the roof. Doesn't look to bad to me, plus it makes the day to day operations costs lower (with the stadium generating it's own power, instead of using town-power)
www.sercan.de April 12th, 2008, 12:30 PM Disaster
50k project was far better
GNU April 12th, 2008, 03:18 PM It certainly will be difficult to watch a corner being taken if you sit up there.
Have to say that this is just a typical half-hearted project.
Its kind of annoying to think that a 3tier 50k stadium would probably already be uc if the residents wouldnt have complained...
And if the Bundesliga would have had a proper TV-contract this wouldnt have happened either. I cant see an english Top-club doing something similar to be honest.
And why dont they sell the naming rights? I mean not even Schalke or Bayern Munich can afford to not sell them so why are they doing it here especially when at the same time they complain that 30 million or so are missing in order to add a third tier?
Anyways, heres the official video of the renovated stadium:
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Carrerra April 12th, 2008, 04:42 PM According to the source I found on internet, Bremen's average attendance for 06/07 season is 40,621(94% of full capacity). Before the renovation Bremen already saw the average attendance close to full capacity. It is totally waste of money to renovate Weserstadion without adding extra seats.
Kampflamm April 12th, 2008, 04:47 PM True, they're gonna spend €60 mio on...essentially nothing. Probably some new toilets.
GNU April 12th, 2008, 04:53 PM According to the source I found on internet, Bremen's average attendance for 06/07 season is 40,621(94% of full capacity). Before the renovation Bremen already saw the average attendance close to full capacity. It is totally waste of money to renovate Weserstadion without adding extra seats.
Absolutely. They are a top club in Germany and imo they have the potential of regularly filling 55 to 60k let alone 50.
They have no problem to fill a stadium with an athletics track on a regular basis and usually the attendance figures go up once a club builds an attractive new stadium.
But I guess for them its not a waste of money in the sense that more exec boxes will be added and that the stadium will get these solar panels alongside other modernization measures.
But yeah, imo its a waste of money too. They definitely should have sold those naming rights and then they should have gone for the proper version. That said they can still extend the stadium at a later point.
Carrerra April 12th, 2008, 04:59 PM I wish some Bremen fans persude the club managements to spend that money on strengthen their squad instead of renovation which is of little help to attendance.
lpioe April 12th, 2008, 05:04 PM It's a pity they don't add more seats, nonetheless I think its great that they don't sell the naming rights.
GNU April 12th, 2008, 06:20 PM Aparently a simple expansion to 50k would have cost 68 million.
An expansion together with a transformation into a pure football stadium would have cost 100 million.
Thats an additional 40 million from what they are spending now.
Me thinks that they could have raised a fair amount of that money by selling the naming rights.
Construction will start at the 10th of May btw.
GNU April 16th, 2008, 06:32 PM more renders:
http://www.stadionwelt.de/neu/sw_stadien/index.php?folder=sites&site=news_detail&news_id=2098
On this older pic one can see how the exterior would have looked like with 3 tiers:
http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/4388/wsus2yc5.jpg
www.sercan.de April 16th, 2008, 06:38 PM Silly Bremen, part 2
First the mini works for the WC 2006 national bid ("Hamburg and Bremen will be the north german WC 2006 cities") :ohno:
ØlandDK April 16th, 2008, 08:35 PM Favorite rendering:
http://www.stadionwelt.de/neu/sw_stadien/images/news/weserstadion_5.jpg
with great info:
Wie der Name verrät, liegt das Stadion an der Weser.
:dunno:
Mo Rush April 16th, 2008, 08:50 PM New Weserstadion
http://www.werder.de/bilder/galerie/2007gross/weserstadionneuaussen575.jpg
jeez..whats the architect smoking?
GNU April 16th, 2008, 09:23 PM yeah good one. It takes a second until you notice those floodlight masts...
And the threadtitle has been changed to 43k now.
www.sercan.de April 16th, 2008, 09:53 PM is 43k wrong?
GNU April 16th, 2008, 10:02 PM no, I just pointed it out so that people wont get confused with my first post in this thread. ;)
GNU July 2nd, 2008, 06:56 PM New renders:
http://www.procon-ing.de/de/referenzen/ws-arena/b1/Bilder/index_01.jpg
http://www.procon-ing.de/de/referenzen/ws-arena/b2/Bilder/index_01.jpg
http://www.procon-ing.de/de/referenzen/ws-arena/b3/Bilder/index_02.jpg
http://www.procon-ing.de/de/referenzen/ws-arena/b5/Bilder/index_01.jpg
http://www.procon-ing.de/de/referenzen/ws-arena/b6/Bilder/index_01.jpg
michał_ July 2nd, 2008, 07:28 PM great stuff, thanks GNU. I might be out of date with this question, but is all roof going to be rebuilt or the part alongside the pitch will just be modernized?
GNU July 2nd, 2008, 07:39 PM This is what it says on the site:
• Nutzung von Teilen der Dachkonstruktion und Ergänzung in Ost und West sowie Verlängerungen in Nord und Süd
• Anheben der vorhandenen Dacheindeckung; damit Platz für die neuartige Photovoltaik-Anlage
http://www.werder.de/aktuelles/news/meldung.php?id=12969
michał_ July 2nd, 2008, 07:45 PM Na ja, alles klar :hammer:
And in some other language (preferably Polish of course :) )
GNU July 2nd, 2008, 07:54 PM Sorry, it basically says that theyll use parts of the existing roof structure and that theyll extend (east and west) and lengthen (north and south) it.
berkshire royal July 2nd, 2008, 09:27 PM I love the floodlights they look great :cheers:
And I think although it is a shame that they aren't expanding their stadium now at least from the sounds of things they aren't being short sighted and have potential to expand in the future. Unfortunately most clubs in Europe that have built new stadiums we're short sighted and didn't leave room or build a structure capable of expansion.
GNU July 7th, 2008, 01:38 PM Construction works have already started (sorry only in german)
Umbau Weserstadion: "Wir liegen voll im Plan"
Von außen ist noch nichts zu sehen, aber im Inneren gehen die Arbeiten voran
BREMEN (Eig. Ber.) Still ruht der See. Kein Hämmern ist zu hören, kein Bohren oder Sägen. Geschweige denn sind schwere Maschinen im Anmarsch, um dem Bremer Weserstadion sein neues Gesicht zu verpassen. Dem Passanten, der in diesen Tagen die Werder-Heimstätte streift, bietet sich kein neues Bild. Ist Werder bei den geplanten Umbaumaßnahmen in Verzug? "Nein, wir liegen voll im Plan", entgegnet Werder-Geschäftsführer Manfred Müller - und listet die derzeitigen Maßnahmen akribisch auf.
Momentan werden in der Nordtribüne die 500 neuen Platinplätze mit zwei dazugehörigen Räumen für das Catering gebaut. Die neue Regiezentrale für die Feuerwehr und das Rettungswesen auf der Südseite ist im Bau, zudem wird in der Leichtathletikhalle ein neuer Aufenthaltsraum für die Journalisten errichtet. "Weiterhin erweitern wir gerade die Goldplätze in der Südtribüne um weitere 200 mit vier zusätzlichen Aufenthaltsräumen. Zwei Kioske und zwei neue Toilettenanlagen sind dort ebenfalls im Bau", sagt Müller: "Wir kommen gut voran, doch das sind alles Arbeiten, die man von Außen natürlich nicht sieht." Neben den derzeitigen Fertigungsmaßnahmen laufen parallel die Ausschreibungen für die Dächer - Nord- und Südseite werden jeweils um vier Meter verlängert - sowie die Glasfassaden an der Südtribüne. Die geplante Fotovoltaik-Anlage sei zudem in der Vorbereitung, führt Müller weiter aus. Zudem wird derzeit geprüft, ob es in der Westtribüne noch weitere gastronomische Angebote geben soll. Die Verlängerung der Dächer über der Nord- und der Südtribüne soll "im Oktober, November beginnen", kündigt der Werder-Geschäftsführer an.
Allerdings: Für diese Baumaßnahme sowie für das geplante Heranziehen der Kurven an das Spielfeld liegen die notwendigen Baugenehmigungen noch nicht vor. "Kein Problem", sagt Müller, "das ist ein ganz normaler Zeitprozess, bis die Genehmigungen ausgestellt werden."
Unmittelbar nach dem letzten Heimspiel der kommenden Saison, also Anfang Mai 2009, soll dann mit dem Heranziehen der Kurven begonnen werden. "Und wir sind guten Mutes, dass der Umbau schließlich zu dem von uns gesetzten Zeitpunkt fertiggestellt ist", sagt Manfred Müller.
Das Angebot für die neuen Platinplätze wird bereits gut angenommen, berichtet der Geschäftsführer: "300 der 500 Sitze sind schon ohne Werbung an den Mann oder die Frau gebracht worden. Und wir arbeiten noch eine Warteliste ab."
http://www.kreiszeitung.de/werdersportstart/00_20080705003254_Umbau_Weserstadion_quotWir_liegen_voll_im_Plan.html
Kampflamm July 7th, 2008, 01:49 PM So are people actually gonna sit behind those beams?
http://www.procon-ing.de/de/referenzen/ws-arena/b2/Bilder/index_01.jpg
GNU July 7th, 2008, 01:59 PM Probably. That roof looks like something out of the 70s
kazetuner July 8th, 2008, 05:35 PM and that last render looks like something out of FIFA Manager 08
GNU August 3rd, 2008, 01:24 PM construction pics:
http://www.stadionwelt.de/neu/sw_stadien/index.php?folder=sites&site=neubau_fotos_view&id=65&ordner=20080724
GNU August 9th, 2008, 01:06 PM model:
http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/sxa-3s-jpg.html
http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/sxa-3t-jpg.html
http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/sxa-3u-jpg.html
http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/sxa-3v-jpg.html
http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/sxa-3w-jpg.html
http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/sxa-3x-jpg.html
http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/sxa-3y-jpg.html
http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/sxa-41-jpg.html
Jenstz November 25th, 2008, 08:50 PM 24.11.
http://www.weserstadion.de/uploads/RTEmagicC_traeger_rasen.jpg.jpg
http://www.weserstadion.de/uploads/RTEmagicC_netze.jpg.jpg
http://www.weserstadion.de/uploads/RTEmagicC_schnee_pano.jpg.jpg
weserstadion.de
berkshire royal November 25th, 2008, 09:28 PM Am I the only one who really likes this stadium, it has a number of defining features which look great and give it a lot of character that is missing in a lot of these new stadium around Europe. I love the floodlights, they really do look great and are far better then boring smaller ones that sit on top of the roof, sadly floodlights are dying out but at least they are surviving here. I also love the strange shape of the roof, it makes a change from the boring straight curved/square all the way around shape that every stadium has. I also like the fact that the corners are weird at least it will make the first tier look different from all the other straight forward first tiers around Europe.
Have to admit there are flaws, for one why isn't the glass exterior continuous all the way around looks a bit amateurish? And also why do they have weird solar panels in weird angles covering the roof? Couldn’t they just make the exterior a straight glass all the way around and couldn't they cover the entire roof with solar panels to make it look more natural?
Carrerra November 26th, 2008, 03:21 AM This is a very rare case that an athletics stadium with tracks is turned into a football specific stadium with no tracks. I'm quite curious how they will do it.
Benn November 26th, 2008, 07:32 PM They are doing the exact same thing in Stuttgart, so the case certainly isn't unique.
Also most of the older American college football stadiums had tracks at one point (Ohio Stadium, Texas Stadium, Harvard Stadium, Ross-Ade Stadium, ect), and have since been converted, at least here it seems to happen quite a bit. Though NFL stadiums have rarely had tracks at any point (Old Soldier Field, Kezar Stadium in San Fransisco and the old Buffalo War Memorial among the few).
If you look at what they are doing with Mercedes-Benz Arena in Stuttgart or DKR Memorial Stadium in Austin it's really just replacing the end stands and lowering the field a meter or two for a few extra rows on the sidelines.
GNU December 1st, 2008, 12:53 PM more construction pics can be found on the stadium website:
http://www.weserstadion.de/aktuelles/umbau-tagebuch/
GNU December 15th, 2008, 01:05 PM http://www.weserstadion.de/uploads/RTEmagicC_flutdachnord__10__01.JPG.jpg
http://www.weserstadion.de/uploads/RTEmagicC_flutdachnord__15_.JPG.jpg
GNU December 19th, 2008, 05:50 PM video:
http://www.radiobremen.de/tv/sport/videoplayer/index.php?bid=008722
Pics:
http://www.imagebam.com/image/ccef1b20803727
http://www.imagebam.com/image/dcdb3520803728
michał_ January 2nd, 2009, 01:53 AM This is a very rare case that an athletics stadium with tracks is turned into a football specific stadium with no tracks. I'm quite curious how they will do it.
They did the same at Inonu in Istanbul, COMS in Manchester and were close to repeating it in Chorzow. I'm sure there are a lot more examples. What would be unique is to see a football-specific stadium that would be developed into athletic one :) At least nothign spring to my mind now... :)
Quintana January 3rd, 2009, 11:15 AM COMS was designed to become a football stadium and Inönü's heritage as an athletics stadium is still very obvious due to the distance between the goal line and the end stands.
CharlieP January 4th, 2009, 02:11 PM They did the same at Inonu in Istanbul, COMS in Manchester and were close to repeating it in Chorzow. I'm sure there are a lot more examples.
Estádio das Antas in Oporto springs to mind straight away.
GNU January 6th, 2009, 04:00 PM http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/4773/img5341al0.jpg
Carrerra January 6th, 2009, 04:37 PM Bremen for next year's European Champion!
Aka January 6th, 2009, 04:54 PM Estádio das Antas in Oporto springs to mind straight away.
Say what?
vij January 6th, 2009, 09:59 PM they should have torn down that ol ugly shit. and built a new one.
ist pretty hideous. bremen deserves a better stadium.
Alx-D January 7th, 2009, 03:54 AM they should have torn down that ol ugly shit. and built a new one.
ist pretty hideous. bremen deserves a better stadium.
I'm not sure you get the concept here, this is called "Renovation". Thats when you take an old dated stadium, and make it new and shiny. It looks like crap now because it is "Under Construction". Judge it when it's finished. :bash:
bigbossman January 9th, 2009, 11:59 PM Say what?
the old porto stadium...
Aka January 10th, 2009, 01:50 AM the old porto stadium...
... That's my point. Antas never changed.
GNU January 12th, 2009, 07:02 PM Construction of the new facade:
http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/5235/11012009226ot8.jpg
GNU January 16th, 2009, 09:14 PM http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3196/3062225660_2ca93cfb59_b.jpg
gedeone81 January 20th, 2009, 03:08 PM Hi Guys,
I'm an Italian football fan. as you can easily understeand I'm envious of all your stadia. We have the worst stadia in Europe, and the sad thing is that nothing is gonna happen (except juventus), only new rendering and bla bla bla....
I would like to ask you just one question. Where does W. B. play now?
www.sercan.de January 20th, 2009, 03:21 PM in this stadium :)
They won't move
GNU February 1st, 2009, 01:11 PM http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/8870/cimg0001zg2.jpg
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kanye February 6th, 2009, 07:26 PM http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/5339/123rk1.th.jpg (http://img4.imageshack.us/my.php?image=123rk1.jpg)
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kanye March 8th, 2009, 08:42 PM http://www.weserstadion.de/uploads/RTEmagicC_sueddeichmrz__1_.JPG.jpg
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npmrsi March 11th, 2009, 07:42 PM Looking good :banana::banana:
GNU March 24th, 2009, 03:02 PM Looking good thus far:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/21139331@N04/3368599910/sizes/o/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/21139331@N04/3368601286/sizes/o/
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bing222 March 25th, 2009, 06:19 AM Still no webcams
kanye May 6th, 2009, 05:48 PM http://www.weserstadion.de/uploads/RTEmagicC_06.05.09_2_.jpg.jpg
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haggiesm May 6th, 2009, 06:31 PM cool update.
Marin Mostar May 6th, 2009, 11:57 PM I don`t understaind why are they lifting ther ruff? It is going to be werry ugly from inside with that big gap betven stands and the ruff.
Axelferis May 8th, 2009, 11:22 PM this stadium doesn't amaze me! Even the renovation is a pity :(
Carrerra May 9th, 2009, 02:58 AM this stadium doesn't amaze me! Even the renovation is a pity :(
Lille stadium is the best project in the world
Fender56 May 9th, 2009, 03:16 PM Despite how much i like Werder, they should have build a brand new stadium, this is nothing but a renovation or say compromise. Sorry Werder.....
:nuts:
kanye May 16th, 2009, 03:29 PM http://www.weserstadion.de/uploads/RTEmagicC_HSV_die_Vierte__51_.JPG.jpg
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CharlieP May 16th, 2009, 05:20 PM Say what?
Estádio das Antas. In Oporto. It used to have an athletics track until 1986.
Before:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_K3wO30tvPV0/RlsuNEFQJeI/AAAAAAAAAdk/LpuLItnS_yU/s320/Est%C3%A1dio+das+Antas.jpg
After:
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Aka May 16th, 2009, 06:05 PM That was a cycling track.
Edit: Even so, the stadium maintained its oval structure.
Marin Mostar May 16th, 2009, 06:43 PM My opinion is that they ruined old clasic stadium. It woult be bether to build now stadium instead of rebuildin this that was nice as it is. The costs are similar.
Jim856796 May 18th, 2009, 06:22 AM They should have changed the Weserstadion's footprint from oval to rectangular in order to match its new behind-the-goal stands.
kanye May 25th, 2009, 03:00 PM http://www.weserstadion.de/uploads/RTEmagicC_25.05.09__2_.JPG.jpg
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Kampflamm May 25th, 2009, 04:40 PM The stadium looks much nicer without the roof. Too bad the new design looks pretty "dark" as well. A roof similar to the one that they have in Frankfurt might have looked better.
Carrerra May 25th, 2009, 04:43 PM Though being a bit off topic, do you know what the location in Korean is in your profile, Kampflamm?
GNU June 3rd, 2009, 06:18 PM http://www.weserstadion.de/fileadmin/redakteure/03.06.09__17_.jpg
NMAISTER007 June 3rd, 2009, 06:24 PM Its a nice design, but on which pitch will Werder play while their stadium is being reconstructed?
GNU June 3rd, 2009, 06:35 PM Theyll stay in the Weserstadion, construction works will be carried out in several stages.
NMAISTER007 June 3rd, 2009, 07:39 PM oh ok thnx. Ive only been to Germany once, and that was only a 2 day visit to Munich. I visited the Allianz Arena, its actually a really nice stadium :)
kanye June 7th, 2009, 04:09 AM http://www.weserstadion.de/uploads/RTEmagicC_DSC_0001.jpg.jpg
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Carrerra June 7th, 2009, 05:19 AM All the stands will be demolished or two behind-the-goal stands will?
www.sercan.de June 7th, 2009, 11:38 AM just goal stands
Arkhángel June 7th, 2009, 11:54 AM I love the 'FLASCHE LEER' ad.
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NMAISTER007 June 8th, 2009, 09:45 PM Good pace of reconstruction :)
kanye June 30th, 2009, 02:08 AM http://www.weserstadion.de/uploads/RTEmagicC_291.jpg.jpg
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Chimaera June 30th, 2009, 10:11 AM Two questions. I've searched this topic but can't seem to find clear answers to them.
1) Why did they raise the roof? More light? A more spatious feeling?
2) Demolition of the goal stands appears to be done with great care. Will the supporting beams be re-used for the new goal stands? Judging from renders and from that one German post (I can make something out of it thanks to the similarities with Dutch) I would say yes...
GNU July 4th, 2009, 03:12 PM 1) Why did they raise the roof? More light? A more spatious feeling?
I think they do it in order to align it with the roof of the goal stands which will be higher than the sideline stands.
2) Demolition of the goal stands appears to be done with great care. Will the supporting beams be re-used for the new goal stands? Judging from renders and from that one German post (I can make something out of it thanks to the similarities with Dutch) I would say yes...
It does look like it, the footprint of the stadium doesnt change.
NMAISTER007 July 4th, 2009, 09:31 PM Will they change the seats to more modern one's?
GNU July 4th, 2009, 09:36 PM The seats are new, they have been put in just recently.
NMAISTER007 July 4th, 2009, 09:37 PM The seats are new, they have been put in just recently.
Oh ok, thnx ;)
Zeno2 July 4th, 2009, 10:47 PM It's going to be a strange stadium to say the least... I don't like the overall design at all. In fact, I've never seen such a renewed stadium before. It looks so cheap.
NMAISTER007 July 4th, 2009, 10:55 PM It's going to be a strange stadium to say the least... I don't like the overall design at all. In fact, I've never seen such a renewed stadium before. It looks so cheap.
It looks cheap now, but when it will be completed, this stadium will look very fascinating :)
GNU July 6th, 2009, 02:18 PM It's going to be a strange stadium to say the least... I don't like the overall design at all. In fact, I've never seen such a renewed stadium before. It looks so cheap.
Its certainly a cheap solution. I think the club will at some point also regret the fact that they havent put up that 3rd tier right away.
kanye August 4th, 2009, 03:51 PM http://www.weserstadion.de/uploads/RTEmagicC_040809.jpg.jpg
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NMAISTER007 August 4th, 2009, 04:51 PM ^^ Amazing, absolutely amazing :)
kanye August 13th, 2009, 11:55 PM http://i29.tinypic.com/14tsl51.jpg
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Jim856796 August 15th, 2009, 10:22 PM Construction on one end of the stadium is going nicely, but what about the other end? When will work on that end start?
bigbossman August 17th, 2009, 02:15 AM ^^ probably when they finish the construction of the end they are currently doing...
mihai_alex August 17th, 2009, 11:39 AM ^^
The exact same strategy as in Stuttgart,with the Mercedes Benz Arena.
kanye August 18th, 2009, 07:01 PM http://i30.tinypic.com/2ecnggx.jpg
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kanye September 4th, 2009, 07:52 AM http://i26.tinypic.com/20uwsiv.jpg
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bing222 September 4th, 2009, 08:21 AM Really amazing photos
1772 September 4th, 2009, 03:16 PM So they are doing this while Werder is playing there?
renco September 4th, 2009, 05:46 PM Yes,notthing strange.
Livno80101 September 5th, 2009, 12:26 AM Yes,notthing strange.
Man, these Germans are so clean and tidy, unbelievable, svaka im dala.
1772 September 7th, 2009, 02:07 PM Yes,notthing strange.
Nothing strange? They've taken away a bunch of the stands, where do people sit?
renco September 8th, 2009, 05:33 PM On the other 3 tribunes :nuts:
mihai_alex September 8th, 2009, 05:51 PM http://www.weserstadion.de/aktuelles/der-umbau/?tx_conews_pi1[item]=102&tx_conews_pi1[currentPage]=1
http://www.weserstadion.de/fileadmin/bilder/Umabu_37_KW/08.09.09__17_.jpg
radioheader September 8th, 2009, 09:32 PM It's the cleanest construction ever :lol:
renco November 14th, 2009, 11:54 AM http://www.weserstadion.de/fileadmin/bilder/Umbau/Umbau_46_KW/pan.jpg
Other photos:
http://www.weserstadion.de/aktuelles/der-umbau/
nenad_kgdc November 14th, 2009, 01:21 PM The corners are very bad designed, they should have made some curves.
renco November 14th, 2009, 02:47 PM Mabye it wasn't possible.:dunno:
Andre_idol November 15th, 2009, 01:48 AM ^^Probably, but yeah the design on the corners doesn´t look very good for me too.
nenad_kgdc November 15th, 2009, 08:34 PM If they demolished few more meters of west/east stands, it would be possible, but...
NMAISTER007 November 16th, 2009, 11:45 AM Personally, I don't see what's ugly about the corners only the empty area, but it doesn't look that bad.
Skycrap December 22nd, 2009, 05:24 PM How is the building progress? Still on time? Any updates?
kubura December 22nd, 2009, 10:50 PM bit ce lep stadion a i werder mi je omiljen klub u njemackoj....
_doc_ December 23rd, 2009, 06:17 PM Personally I realy like that in German grounds terraces still exist.It 's football not cinema...There isn't a plan to close them...is there?
FrankWhite December 23rd, 2009, 07:49 PM Personally I realy like that in German grounds terraces still exist.It 's football not cinema...There isn't a plan to close them...is there?
No plans, afaik...
December 23rd:
http://www.weserstadion.de/uploads/RTEmagicC_P1030345.JPG.jpg
Jim856796 December 24th, 2009, 01:57 AM The upper tier of the Weserstadion's new goal stands do not look right.
donmarcos December 27th, 2009, 11:54 AM wow it looking very curious:> Greets from Gdańsk! Go Werder ! :)
pamirez January 15th, 2010, 11:41 AM update:
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kanye January 21st, 2010, 12:00 PM http://i49.tinypic.com/2961wkz.jpg
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Aka January 21st, 2010, 05:31 PM Oh man... those corners are looking even worse than Old Trafford's...
pachecohv January 22nd, 2010, 01:48 PM ^^ I Agree.
Andre_idol January 24th, 2010, 02:07 AM Oh man... those corners are looking even worse than Old Trafford's...
Agree :ohno:
And those things (5/6th photo) in the 2nd tier supporting the roof will stay there?
At least the outside is looking good!
Carrerra January 24th, 2010, 05:29 AM Snow again. Is it snowy in Germany too?
Pfeuffer January 24th, 2010, 10:52 PM Snow again. Is it snowy in Germany too?
Yeah, too much snow in northern Germany. the temperatures are also
below average for one month now.
But in 2 weeks, winter will be over for me cause I´ll fly to Malaysia !!!:banana:
MS20 January 25th, 2010, 12:09 AM The new end was in use against Bayern - found that amazing considering it didn't look complete. Although it did look like not all seats were available.
Aka January 25th, 2010, 04:02 AM Two roofs! Oh yeah! :banana:
(simimon, flickr)
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2763/4297066403_e267c40784_b.jpg
Kampflamm January 25th, 2010, 09:49 AM That whole place is a frikkin mess and a great example of how not to rebuild your stadium.
pamirez January 25th, 2010, 11:44 AM http://img686.imageshack.us/img686/5497/4297066403e267c40784b.jpg
Will this thing be removed after the new roof is completed? It looks like it is carrying the roof construction.....but it's aweful :ohno:
It really looks like the stand has two different roofs, one above the other.
Bremen was quite successful in the last years....they deserve a better stadium than this.
Reptilikus January 26th, 2010, 09:12 PM Will this thing be removed after the new roof is completed? It looks like it is carrying the roof construction.....but it's aweful :ohno:
It really looks like the stand has two different roofs, one above the other.
Bremen was quite successful in the last years....they deserve a better stadium than this.
The old concrete roof supports the new steel roof.
I wished the had tried to hide it better... :ohno:
EPA001 January 27th, 2010, 02:21 PM Will this thing be removed after the new roof is completed? It looks like it is carrying the roof construction.....but it's aweful :ohno:
It really looks like the stand has two different roofs, one above the other.
That structure will partially be removed. See the video:
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pamirez January 27th, 2010, 02:58 PM Ok I see what you mean. Only the concrete parts that carry the pillars for the roof will remain. Maybe this stadium will not even look so bad when finished.....but it looks really messy now :)
Would also look much better if the seat color would be changed into blue or grey...like in this picture
http://www.werder.de/bilder/galerie/2007gross/weserstadionneuaussen575.jpg
FredPerry January 27th, 2010, 03:32 PM Looks kind of weird at this moment, but it will be a nice stadium in the end
Mordaunt-S January 28th, 2010, 04:27 PM Hopefully something good will come out of this.
kanye January 28th, 2010, 05:15 PM http://i49.tinypic.com/2qvup90.jpg
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pamirez January 28th, 2010, 05:30 PM http://i50.tinypic.com/2evb1iu.jpg
the distance to the goal line hasn't really improved a lot... only a few meters.
I do not understand why they decided to do this renovation. They first planned to increase capacity to 50.000 by including a third tier...but due to the rising steal prices they dumped that plan. This renovation does not make much sense.
Aka January 28th, 2010, 05:35 PM http://i46.tinypic.com/10yqrm1.jpg
So............... You call "this" seats............. OK...............
pamirez January 28th, 2010, 06:14 PM I think it's terracing anyway.....therefore the bad seats.
pamirez February 4th, 2010, 10:27 AM new pic from the web page
http://www.weserstadion.de/fileadmin/bilder/Umbau_2010/Umbau_4_KW/pano.jpg
Frnjchuga031 February 4th, 2010, 02:48 PM This is bad... I can't belive that this is happening in Germany...
SaRaJeVo-City February 12th, 2010, 03:19 AM This is bad... I can't belive that this is happening in Germany...
thats what I thought, Germany is known for its class A stadiums and strong football league...this stadium looks like something you find in a 3rd world country. Possibly the worst stadium in Germany, I believe they should of just demolished the whole thing as a whole and made a brand new stadium.
FrankWhite February 12th, 2010, 07:59 AM at the moment it looks quite messy, but hey, wait till it's finished...it';s not going to be to bad at all.
And for the distance; the stands will be really close to the pitch. During the games, they are already adding mobile tribune parts to end of the current stand.
You can see here how it will look like:
http://www.weserstadion.de/fileadmin/3dwelt/3dweltstadion-content_intro.jpg
definetely not a "3rd world country" stadium...
gavstar00 February 12th, 2010, 11:31 AM at the moment it looks quite messy, but hey, wait till it's finished...it';s not going to be to bad at all.
And for the distance; the stands will be really close to the pitch. During the games, they are already adding mobile tribune parts to end of the current stand.
You can see here how it will look like:
http://www.weserstadion.de/fileadmin/3dwelt/3dweltstadion-content_intro.jpg
definetely not a "3rd world country" stadium...
Sorry if this has already been asked or answered but the biggest issue I'd have with it is why would they go to the expense of raising the height of the roof on the two existing stands on each side of the pitch without adding additional seats given the extra space created by the lift? It just looks to be a wall running the height of the gap?
I'm all about waiting to see how it looks when its finished but I have to say it looks like its been designed by a committee with everyone getting their say and it being a total mis-mash of bits and pieces. :ohno:
That said, I particularly like the terracing behind the goal in the render, as I do with the vast majority of terracing in German stadiums. In general, they are years ahead of the curve in terms of combining seating and terracing into designs without lumping them in as an afterthought.
mrgy February 12th, 2010, 01:39 PM But look at those pillars on the upper tier which are carrying the roof.It looks so awful to me.You can see this in England at the old stadiums which were built 50-60 years ago or more like Fulham or Portsmouth stadium but to do something like this in 21st century especially in Germany which is well known for good looking and modern stadiums it's a big pitty.:bash:
Frnjchuga031 February 12th, 2010, 03:49 PM at the moment it looks quite messy, but hey, wait till it's finished...it';s not going to be to bad at all.
And for the distance; the stands will be really close to the pitch. During the games, they are already adding mobile tribune parts to end of the current stand.
You can see here how it will look like:
http://www.weserstadion.de/fileadmin/3dwelt/3dweltstadion-content_intro.jpg
definetely not a "3rd world country" stadium...
Just ugly...:ohno:
kanye February 12th, 2010, 05:13 PM http://i50.tinypic.com/2exv7eh.jpg
http://www.weserstadion.de/fileadmin/bilder/Umbau_2010/Umbau_4_KW/P1030631.JPG
http://www.weserstadion.de/fileadmin/bilder/Umbau_2010/Umbau_4_KW/122.jpg
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Carrerra February 13th, 2010, 04:12 PM 89.204% completed in my calculation
BobDaBuilder February 15th, 2010, 01:13 PM Yes, should be ready in approximately 3 months, 5 days, 13 hours and 26 minutes.
pamirez March 8th, 2010, 10:53 PM http://www.weserstadion.de/fileadmin/bilder/Umbau_2010/Umbau_9_KW/panmrz2.jpg
http://www.weserstadion.de/fileadmin/bilder/Umbau_2010/Umbau_9_KW/panomrz.jpg
and a new pitch
http://www.weserstadion.de/fileadmin/bilder/Umbau_2010/Umbau_9_KW/rasen2.jpg
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renco March 8th, 2010, 11:24 PM Thanks,for posting.It looks better and better as it's aproaches the end of construction.
SpicyMcHaggis March 9th, 2010, 09:16 AM It's a mess honestly. They ruined perfectly decent ground.
Kampflamm March 9th, 2010, 12:45 PM I wouldn't call it perfectly decent. It's much better for the fans now even though it looks like the elephant man. IMO they should try and put something between the roof and those big beams, maybe a restaurant. Of course then you'd have to reinforce that area, add sanitation, elevators, staircases.
gavstar00 March 9th, 2010, 02:56 PM Can someone tell me what is the story with the roof? Is the old roof acting as a temporary support for the new one or is it part of the final design and the stadium will have two?!?
BremenFan March 10th, 2010, 09:47 AM 89.204% completed in my calculation
How did you calculate that number? it's not even half done. They will tear down the old Ostkurve during the long summer break (World Cup)
It's a mess honestly. They ruined perfectly decent ground.
perfectly decent? Have you been to the restrooms at the old Weserstadion?
the new stands will be much steeper and closer to the pitch. the atmosphere will be much better. The new space behind the stands will be used for amenities. all the VIP areas will be refurbished (although personally I think VIP areas shouldn't exist in a football stadium).
The only problem is that they wasted the chance to expand the stadium which would have been necessary given the demand for (season)tickets. But Werder Bremen just doesn't have the money and there is no money coming from the local, state or federal governments like it is the case in so many other german football stadiums (especially Munich, Kaiserslautern, Berlin)
Can someone tell me what is the story with the roof? Is the old roof acting as a temporary support for the new one or is it part of the final design and the stadium will have two?!?
there is only one roof. I don't know what you're referring to but the stadium is not even half done so whatever you're referring to might be temporary
pamirez March 10th, 2010, 10:37 AM I think he was talking about those concrete structures. This looks as if the stadium has two different roofs on different levels.
Yes they are carrying the new roof construction and will therefore remain. We talked about this one page 9 =)
http://img686.imageshack.us/img686/5497/4297066403e267c40784b.jpg
BhamJim March 10th, 2010, 10:46 AM I love this, it's got lots of character and atmosphere.
Much better than any of the identical symmetrical bowls being build all over the world.
www.sercan.de March 10th, 2010, 11:58 AM any interior pic of the 3rd tier version?
pamirez March 10th, 2010, 01:14 PM not much to find there
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/6449/336141486wm.jpg
http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/5104/ws084df.png
www.sercan.de March 10th, 2010, 01:57 PM 3rd tier + huge overlapping
Just great :D
http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/2928/galerie251.jpg
http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/9615/galerie252.jpg
bigbossman March 10th, 2010, 02:00 PM is it stil possible in the future?
SpicyMcHaggis March 10th, 2010, 02:02 PM Is there a chance that we might see this anytime soon? This connection of upper tiers is now simply bad.
www.sercan.de March 10th, 2010, 02:07 PM maybe its possible, but very expansive and you have to convince the residents
pamirez March 23rd, 2010, 06:53 PM update:
http://www.weserstadion.de/fileadmin/bilder/Umbau_2010/Umbau_12_KW/23.03.10__16_.jpg
http://www.weserstadion.de/fileadmin/bilder/Umbau_2010/Umbau_12_KW/23.03.10__3_.jpg
http://www.weserstadion.de/fileadmin/bilder/Umbau_2010/Umbau_12_KW/23.03.10__7_.jpg
http://www.weserstadion.de/fileadmin/bilder/Umbau_2010/Umbau_12_KW/23.03.10__22_.jpg
quite a good view from the new stand =)
www.weserstadion.de
SpicyMcHaggis March 23rd, 2010, 06:59 PM What exactly is this on pic no2?
Kampflamm March 23rd, 2010, 07:53 PM The columns on the left almost look like they're made out of marble. :D
http://www.weserstadion.de/fileadmin/bilder/Umbau_2010/Umbau_12_KW/23.03.10__16_.jpg
www.sercan.de March 24th, 2010, 03:38 PM lol true
Carrerra March 24th, 2010, 03:59 PM The columns on the left almost look like they're made out of marble. :D
http://www.weserstadion.de/fileadmin/bilder/Umbau_2010/Umbau_12_KW/23.03.10__16_.jpg
:lol:
pamirez April 10th, 2010, 11:28 AM http://www.weserstadion.de/fileadmin/bilder/Umbau_2010/Umbau_13K/08090410__33_.jpg
www.weserstadion.de
Zeno2 April 10th, 2010, 01:29 PM The columns on the left almost look like they're made out of marble. :D
http://www.weserstadion.de/fileadmin/bilder/Umbau_2010/Umbau_12_KW/23.03.10__16_.jpg
that is because this renovation sucks ...:)
anze April 10th, 2010, 03:05 PM Are on the roof solar cells?
OldWorldResident April 14th, 2010, 03:21 PM Are on the roof solar cells?
Yes. The complete exterior will be covered with solar cells, except the north side of course.
OldWorldResident April 14th, 2010, 03:38 PM http://i50.tinypic.com/2evb1iu.jpg
the distance to the goal line hasn't really improved a lot... only a few meters.
I do not understand why they decided to do this renovation. They first planned to increase capacity to 50.000 by including a third tier...but due to the rising steal prices they dumped that plan. This renovation does not make much sense.
The distance to the goal line was reduced by 18 meters (once 28 meters - now 10 meters). The new tiers on the west end east are/will be not only closer to the goal line but also steeper. As a result they had to raise the roof. The old roof didn't cover all seats since they extended the stadium in 2002. The new roof on the other hand will. So for me this renovation makes sense.
endrity April 14th, 2010, 05:31 PM It looked really bad at the beginning but it's starting to look a bit better now. Still, it would have been best (if money was no object) to build it from the beginning, it seems a bit patched together.
g$X.n1 April 15th, 2010, 01:18 PM I think it's enough for bremen..
OldWorldResident April 19th, 2010, 05:19 PM ...
OldWorldResident May 10th, 2010, 02:31 PM april 19
http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/6574/1904103.jpg
may 4
http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/2452/abschluss091010.jpg
may 10
http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/2417/10051014.jpg
MTF May 12th, 2010, 11:47 AM ^^Can't see the pics
OldWorldResident May 13th, 2010, 02:52 PM ^^ I don't understand why you couldn't see them, but i uploaded them again.
They work in three shifts and 24 hours the day at the moment. The speed of the deconstruction is amazing. Just look at the progress between may 10th and may 12th.
It's sheduled to complete the first of the two new stands for the start of the new season in august!
may 12
http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/3088/12051015.jpg
OldWorldResident May 26th, 2010, 12:52 AM I don't know why, but I just took a look at the webcam without any expectations and suprisingly I found this.
It's 12:30 AM in Germany. The sun is down. The floodlight is on.
Foundation work begun (on the left) while deconstruction proceeds (on the right)
http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/87/stadion2010052600041130.jpg
Andre_idol May 26th, 2010, 02:12 AM :shocked: That´s fast!!
OldWorldResident June 10th, 2010, 11:41 PM eastside
http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/2457/0906101.jpg
http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/4955/0906103.jpg
westside
http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/2924/09061011.jpg
http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/7614/09061013k.jpg
http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/3482/0906108.jpg
all pics from www.weserstadion.de
pamirez June 18th, 2010, 06:19 PM http://www.weserstadion.de/fileadmin/bilder/Umbau_2010/Umbau_24_KW/16.06.10__12_.jpg
http://www.weserstadion.de/fileadmin/bilder/Umbau_2010/Umbau_24_KW/16.06.10__8_.jpg
www.weserstadion.de
pawel19-87 July 4th, 2010, 10:46 AM http://www.weserstadion.de/fileadmin/templates/images/logo.gif
http://www.weserstadion.de/fileadmin/bilder/Umbau_2010/Umbau_25_KW/panoost236.jpg
http://www.weserstadion.de/fileadmin/bilder/Umbau_2010/Umbau_25_KW/23.06.10__12_.jpg
http://www.weserstadion.de/fileadmin/bilder/Umbau_2010/Umbau_25_KW/23.06.10__27_.jpg
http://www.weserstadion.de/fileadmin/bilder/Umbau_2010/Umbau_25_KW/23.06.10__5_.jpg
http://www.weserstadion.de/index.php
mopper July 4th, 2010, 01:23 PM I like your work germans, but it is better to smash hole stadium and construct a new one, don't you think ?
Frnjchuga031 July 6th, 2010, 02:19 AM I like your work germans, but it is better to smash hole stadium and construct a new one, don't you think ?
I think anyone with good taste does...
But really...
This happening in Germany...
Can't belive...
OldWorldResident July 6th, 2010, 11:45 PM I like your work germans, but it is better to smash hole stadium and construct a new one, don't you think ?
Based on your statement I assume that you don't know the hole stadium.
http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/2268/988f370f7fee564df4ed75d.jpg
construction update:
http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/7838/pano1j.jpg
wearethefuture July 8th, 2010, 06:28 AM 5/7 - Link (http://www.weserstadion.de)
http://www.weserstadion.de/fileadmin/bilder/Umbau_2010_2/27_KW/05.07.10__10_.jpg
http://www.weserstadion.de/fileadmin/bilder/Umbau_2010_2/27_KW/05.07.10__12_.jpg
http://www.weserstadion.de/fileadmin/bilder/Umbau_2010_2/27_KW/05.07.10__17_.jpg
http://www.weserstadion.de/fileadmin/bilder/Umbau_2010_2/27_KW/05.07.10__29_.jpg
http://www.weserstadion.de/fileadmin/bilder/Umbau_2010_2/27_KW/05.07.10__2_.jpg
http://www.weserstadion.de/fileadmin/bilder/Umbau_2010_2/27_KW/05.07.10__9_.jpg
http://www.weserstadion.de/fileadmin/bilder/Umbau_2010_2/27_KW/pano1.jpg
pamirez July 8th, 2010, 08:15 AM they're working really fast....but it looks so terrible
pamirez July 14th, 2010, 06:42 PM http://www.weserstadion.de/fileadmin/bilder/Umbau_2010_2/Umbau_28_KW/pano137.jpg
www.weserstadion.de
Andre_idol July 14th, 2010, 09:07 PM wow! What did I miss? :lol: Would it be ready in the beginning of the season?
OldWorldResident August 4th, 2010, 09:14 PM wow! What did I miss? :lol: Would it be ready in the beginning of the season?
the first stand will be ready at the end of august.
construction update
preparation for the seats.
http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/6913/dsc0040n.jpg
the first boxes are taking shape.
http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/2397/dsc0034oj.jpg
first corner section installed.
http://www.weserstadion.de/wwwebcam/data/Stadion2010-08-04_20_34_11.801.jpg
weserstadion.de (http://www.weserstadion.de/aktuelles/der-umbau/?tx_conews_pi1%5Bitem%5D=173)
pamirez August 15th, 2010, 12:19 PM some seats were installed
http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/1156/stadion2010081512161387.jpg
pamirez August 17th, 2010, 06:55 PM first tier is ready for the start of the Bundesliga
http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/4295/stadion2010081718493496.jpg
Sponsor August 17th, 2010, 07:09 PM http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/1156/stadion2010081512161387.jpg
Are those lower rows retractable? Why?
Or is it only steel construction but still I'm curious why not concrete :dunno:
OldWorldResident August 18th, 2010, 08:07 PM Are those lower rows retractable? Why?
Or is it only steel construction but still I'm curious why not concrete :dunno:
No, they aren't retractable. But they are easy to install and to remove. why? to save time and money.
In 2002 the pitch was lowered by 2,10 meter and the stadium was expanded with those removable stands. They kept those stands and modified them. You could call it recycling.
btw. the preparation is not for the bundesliga, but for the champions league play off. you can see the blue uefa champions league banner on the left.
Frnjchuga031 August 19th, 2010, 11:19 AM I saw fans on that stand during yesterdays match... It was funny to see tham behind that crane...
endrity August 19th, 2010, 04:14 PM any pics from last night's game?
npmrsi August 19th, 2010, 05:08 PM any pics from last night's game?
from werder.de
http://www.werder.de/bilder/galerie/bildergalerien/2009/dsc_0338.jpg
http://www.werder.de/bilder/galerie/bildergalerien/2009/dsc_0345.jpg
http://www.werder.de/bilder/galerie/bildergalerien/2009/dsc_0348.jpg
http://www.werder.de/bilder/galerie/bildergalerien/2009/dsc_0349.jpg
http://www.werder.de/bilder/galerie/bildergalerien/2009/dsc_0357.jpg
http://www.werder.de/bilder/galerie/bildergalerien/2009/dsc_0359.jpg
endrity August 19th, 2010, 05:25 PM Thnx man. Looks really good. The finished stand that people were complaining about earlier in the construction looks nice. I hope they remove the old roof that still exists over the older stands. The new one is bigger and nice, plus it seems like it will allow for extra seating space.
_doc_ August 20th, 2010, 01:20 AM I always regarded the Weserstadion as a beautiful football venue but not any more. I hate the concept of turning bowl shaped stadium into a rectangular one....:ohno:...Why they dont like bowls? I remember I visited Weser 2 years ago...I was sitting in the worst seats of the stadium (where the away fans sit) and again it made an impression to me....Exactly the same case is the Mercedes Benz Arena Stuttgart, beautiful stadium before....boring stadium afterwards....
Aka August 20th, 2010, 03:13 PM The finished stand that people were complaining about earlier in the construction looks nice.
No, it doesn't.
OldWorldResident August 21st, 2010, 01:22 AM I always regarded the Weserstadion as a beautiful football venue but not any more. I hate the concept of turning bowl shaped stadium into a rectangular one....:ohno:...Why they dont like bowls? I remember I visited Weser 2 years ago...I was sitting in the worst seats of the stadium (where the away fans sit) and again it made an impression to me....Exactly the same case is the Mercedes Benz Arena Stuttgart, beautiful stadium before....boring stadium afterwards....
I agree with what you said about the old stadium. It was beautiful. Bowls always are. But rectangular stadiums offer a better view and a better atmosphere and that's what its all about.
Soccer fans usually don't spend their money to watch a beautiful stadium. They want to watch a beautiful soccer game. I think the Weserstadion was not build for architecture fans, but for soccer fans.
Perhaps you are used to the rectangular in England and that's why you call them boring. (just my theory :) )
That said the stadium looks quite ugly at daytime, but surprisingly good at night. (I'm just talking about the inside. The outside looks great imo). It looks like they installed another LED banner below the roof. This could become an interesting addition for night games.
I wonder why the roof on the westside is still not finished...
pamirez August 25th, 2010, 10:05 PM update:
http://www.weserstadion.de/fileadmin/bilder/Umbau_2010_2/Umbau_34_KW/DSC_0054.jpg
http://www.weserstadion.de/fileadmin/bilder/Umbau_2010_2/Umbau_34_KW/DSC_0066.jpg
http://www.weserstadion.de/fileadmin/bilder/Umbau_2010_2/Umbau_34_KW/panostfeld.jpg
http://www.weserstadion.de/fileadmin/bilder/Umbau_2010_2/Umbau_34_KW/pno.jpg
http://www.weserstadion.de/fileadmin/bilder/Umbau_2010_2/Umbau_34_KW/DSC_0043.jpg
http://www.weserstadion.de/fileadmin/bilder/Umbau_2010_2/Umbau_34_KW/DSC_0022.jpg
http://www.weserstadion.de/fileadmin/bilder/Umbau_2010_2/Umbau_34_KW/DSC_0025.jpg
http://www.weserstadion.de/fileadmin/bilder/Umbau_2010_2/Umbau_34_KW/DSC_0029.jpg
the new stand looks better than I expected. I think it will be a nice stadium when completed.....though it is too small for Werder imo
SpicyMcHaggis August 26th, 2010, 02:57 AM I still can't get over that terrible, terrible connection between the upper tiers.
renco August 26th, 2010, 10:18 AM Are they planning to upgrade haupt and gegen tribune to the hight of new east and west tribunes?
pamirez August 26th, 2010, 05:43 PM Are they planning to upgrade haupt and gegen tribune to the hight of new east and west tribunes?
no I don't think so. First the planned to increase the capacity even more by adding a third tier...but those plans were cancelled.
gavstar00 August 26th, 2010, 08:53 PM Whatever about the overall design of the reconstructed stadium (I've thrown my two cents in earlier in the thread, no need to repeat it) you have to take your hat off to the construction company - this has to be one of the quickest stadium redevelopments ever! German efficiency personified:)
pamirez August 28th, 2010, 04:19 PM http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/5774/stadion2010082816161458.jpg
JimB August 29th, 2010, 12:58 AM Brilliant transformation of the stadium. Such a massive improvement at both ends.
I would have loved to have gone there for Spurs' Champions League game on 14th Sept but, sadly, I am too busy that week and can't get away.
Andre_idol August 29th, 2010, 04:28 AM Question: Had they "restrictions" with the roof because of the light towers?
OldWorldResident August 29th, 2010, 01:50 PM ^^ I'm not sure about your question. Do you mean height restriction? Never read something about that. All I can say is that they tried to keep as many parts of the old stadium as possible. That's why the light towers are still there.
OldWorldResident September 1st, 2010, 01:40 PM deleted
OldWorldResident September 3rd, 2010, 05:24 PM the 500t crane..
http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/7905/500toncrane.jpg
the 60t precast concrete parts..
http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/8056/60tonconcrete.jpg
and here is the result..
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/821/oberrang.jpg
Andre_idol September 4th, 2010, 05:43 AM ^^ I'm not sure about your question. Do you mean height restriction? Never read something about that. All I can say is that they tried to keep as many parts of the old stadium as possible. That's why the light towers are still there.
What I meant was...I guess the roof could be longer to protect the supporters on the first rows (or even all the first tier cause it looks "unprotected")...but looking at the light towers I guess that doing that would end up in obstructing the light.
endrity September 4th, 2010, 07:26 PM They are going at a blazing speed? Does anyone know if the stands will be ready for second half of the season already? I mean just the stands for the fans to sit in, not the roof or other work they might have inside the stadium.
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