JULY 24, 2004

Contract clause

Far East Organization's new project aims to show that small can be an asset when it comes to picking that District 9 condo home

By Karl Ho

SIZE does matter, especially if you are looking to live in District 9.

And while big usually means good, Far East Organization's upcoming Vida condominium in the Cairnhill area is out to prove that small isn't bad either.

A 137-unit, 20-storey tower block, Vida's small apartments are being touted as one of the development's key selling points.

With the exception of eight loft units which are 1,281sq ft each, its apartments come in two sizes: 527sq ft (one bedroom) and 861sq ft (two bedrooms).

Prices range between $1,200 psf (per square foot) and $1,600 psf, which is consistent with property prices in the Cairnhill area.

But because of their sizes, units go from under $700,000 for the one-bedder to slightly over $1 million for the two-bedders.

Other projects in the area, with their bigger apartments, generally have average starting prices of $2.5 million and above.

Far East executives say that the freehold project will be launched soon, though they did not want to reveal exact dates. A showflat has already been open to the public since last Saturday.

Vida's apartments are aimed at aspiring yuppies on a budget, says Mr Chng Kiong Huat, Far East's assistant director of property services.

He says: 'We're targeting the younger urbanites and small urban families who want to make a statement and live near town, but still can't afford the bigger places yet.'

Despite the presence of rival projects offering a similar living experience, like Wing Tai's The Light at Cairnhill and SC Global's Thr3e Thre3 Robin, Far East executives insist Vida can hold its own in the marketplace.

'We have the advantage of being more timely,' says Mr Chia Boon Kuah, Far East's deputy chief operating officer of retail and lifestyle concepts.

'And we're coming out at a time when the number of young professionals looking for smaller and affordable spaces downtown is growing.'

He adds: 'Look at our location. We're closer to Orchard Road than other available projects and the mood here is definitely more vibrant.'

Perched along a slope and flanked by Peck Hay Road and Cairnhill Rise, Orchard Road is an eight-minute walk away.

Its glass facade is modern and sleek, and it boasts a 'rejuvenation garden' with spa massage pools and lush vegetation.

It is close to facilities such as the Newton MRT station, Anglo-Chinese School (Junior) and Mount Elizabeth Hospital.

High-end apartment finishes like Gaggenau kitchen appliances and Philippe Starck-designed sanitary ware have also been thrown in for free.

But location and posh detailing aside, some observers wonder if families - even small ones - will bite.

'Yes, it's close to a school, but where can a young family hang the clothes and give tuition to the kid in such small units?' asks a property consultant who does not want to be named.

'The location might not be that perfect for professional singles either. Yes, it's close to town, but parents picking up kids at ACS (Junior) will choke up the road near the condo.' But Mr Donald Han, managing director of property consultancy Cushman and Wakefield, thinks Vida will do well because Far East's recent track record has been impressive.

Its recent Central project above Clarke Quay MRT Station, which revolves around the office-cum-home or 'SoHo' (small office, home office) concept, has sold well despite the sluggish market.

So far, 80 per cent of the 115 units released there have been snapped up.

'They came up with a development previously that catered to the same demographic that Vida is after, and they've been successful,' says Mr Han. 'So they can brag that they've done it before, and they'll do it again.'

Its glass facade is modern and sleek, and it boasts a 'rejuvenation garden' with spa massage pools and lush vegetation.

woo! cant wait to see a rendering and another project on the rise thats near me! :banana:

Haha...but at 20 floors, it gets overshadowed by most of its neighbours...unless it has a more interesting facade?

Haha...but at 20 floors, it gets overshadowed by most of its neighbours...unless it has a more interesting facade?

maybe maybe but I dont recall any nice condos there - havent walked there for ages!

And whats with names like Vida? Far East Org is also gonna launch a condo at Keng Lee Rd called Miro.

+ news: vida expected to be launched next week!

Where did you get the news that Vida will be launched next week?

www.condo.com.sg ... it say its *expected* to be launched next week

www.condo.com.sg ... it say its *expected* to be launched next week

It looks funky. The showroom is already ready.

http://img34.exs.cx/img34/1687/vida2.jpg

Where is Vida?

vida is at cairnhill i think..

yup Vida is at Peck Hay Road to be precise, just behind the Orchard Scotts apartments (those massive glass shapes)

Peck Hay sounds like a strange name for a high-class condo at a high-class area.

Far East to launch freehold Vida this weekend

19 Nov 04

SINGAPORE : Developer Far East Organization is launching its freehold residential development, Vida, in the prime Cairnhill area this weekend.

Located on a hilltop at Cairnhill Rise, Vida consists of 137 studios, apartments and lofts.

The development is located close to the Newton MRT station as well as the Orchard Road shopping belt.

The one- and two-bedroom apartments range in size from 527 square feet for a one-bedroom unit to and 861 square feet for a two-bedroom.

Forty-nine premier units will be released during the official launch and prices start from S$650,000.

The first 10 buyers will enjoy an early-bird bonus of a membership at the Hollandse Club worth $10,000. - CNA

The carpark at the showroom has now given way for piling equipment, but the showroom is still there.

Signboard
http://img333.imageshack.us/img333/6969/vidaboard3bo.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Their marketing people can be more creative, I think. Miro?? Sounds & looks like Milo. Really a silly name.

Plus it was rumored that they would screw you on the end-product. People used to say "basket, showflat so nice, but the real apartment look like s**t".

I remember at one time their reputation for shoddy construction was so bad that people just ignored their stuff - cracks everywhere, walls windows doors everything also sengeh. Rumored that they hire cheap contractor, pay peanuts for cheap and bad-quality building materials, and post high profits. Bloody hell.

What's up with Orchard Scotts??? Heard they're refurbishing cos of lousy construction and finishing.

Peck Hay sounds like a strange name for a high-class condo at a high-class area.

This area is $1,300 psf on average.

Eh, Chinese name cannot be high-class is it? Wah lau, the richest and most powerful old men of Singapore past and present go by their Chinese names ok. And many places named after their Chinese names because they donated a lot of money.

^

Yup :D

The Orchard Scotts apartments have been empty & unlaunched for years, maybe due to the downturn (previously the site was a HUDC estate called Anthony Gardens), while the plot Vida is on was left undeveloped since 1997 until now. The previous plot used to be occupied by 2 apartments that were enblocked just before the crisis. I've also noticed that the petrol station along Clemenceau Avenue closed down. Road-widening perhaps? The entrance to Peck Hay Rd is quite tight.

Anyway I didnt know Far East had that reputation. Its definitely one of the biggest developers here...does it occupy any special status? I remember reading an article recently about it but dont know much behind its history.

They used to have a terrible reputation for using low quality materials and shoddy workmanship. Thought that was a widely-known fact. They are now trying very hard to improve their reputation but this kind of thing takes time, especially in a small country like Singapore. Ask contractors and people in building and construction, they will let you know what they think of Far East.

According to the latest Forbes billionaire list, Far East's Ng Teng Fong is the second richest person in Singapore, after CDL's Kwek Leng Beng who is number one. Property development is just one of their various businesses. But while Kwek's CDL has consistently delivered on good quality buildings and reliable real estate, Ng obviously made his money in the property sector by saving on costs and selling at relatively high prices.

sorry Ng is 3rd richest. 2nd is Wee, whose main fortune comes from banking and finance and only a small part from property (UOL).

22 July 2006

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j67/RCSSC/vida2207.jpg

^
I've also noticed that the petrol station along Clemenceau Avenue closed down. Road-widening perhaps? The entrance to Peck Hay Rd is quite tight.


Another trivia update:

Far East is now using the former petrol station as a carpark for visitors to Orchard Scotts next door.

Ha, nice one, long time I wanted to update it but everytime I passed by it was too dark to see anything ^ ^

I liked VIDA since the time I went for the preview ... so nice .. classy and tucked in a quiet corner ... but then ... cannot afford ... wohaahaaa!

Went to see the showflat (31 & 33 Cairnhill Circle)for this development by Allgreen, freehold and 97 units only.

Finishing is quite nice! Bought over by the 'Gaggenau' kitchen appliances haha. But the pricing is around 1750psf for the LOWER floors.

The way the agents have been selling this is that the site next door has gone en bloc to SC Global and when they launch their project, will be >2000psf. but of course SC Global commands premium...

Anyone else seen this?? =)

Dunno how to post pictures but the website is at www.cairnhillresidence.com.sg

sorry shd be www.cairnhillresidences.com.sg

http://www.cairnhillresidences.com.sg/images/map.jpg

Went to see the showflat (31 & 33 Cairnhill Circle)for this development by Allgreen, freehold and 97 units only.

Finishing is quite nice! Bought over by the 'Gaggenau' kitchen appliances haha. But the pricing is around 1750psf for the LOWER floors.

The way the agents have been selling this is that the site next door has gone en bloc to SC Global and when they launch their project, will be >2000psf. but of course SC Global commands premium...

Anyone else seen this?? =)

Dunno how to post pictures but the website is at www.cairnhillresidence.com.sg

Although this development is on higher ground, I wonder if the apartments have any decent views once SC Global builds their project. If I remember correctly, the plot ratio for Hilltop is over 4 and that will imply that Cairnhill Circle will be very densed in time to come compared to the already densed surrounds.

Cairnhill is already a rather dense area...the built-up density looks set to increase in future...and most of the new towers there seem to have a height ceiling of around 20-22 floors from what I've seen

Although this development is on higher ground, I wonder if the apartments have any decent views once SC Global builds their project. If I remember correctly, the plot ratio for Hilltop is over 4 and that will imply that Cairnhill Circle will be very densed in time to come compared to the already densed surrounds.
dont think hv any view to talk about for this project.

Noted that the former Phoenix Mansion at Cairnhill Rd has just been demolished.

This is from their website:

The upcoming freehold development (with a maximum height of 20-storey and approximately 80 units) is strategically sited along Cairnhill Road, opposite The Light at Cairnhill - another Wing Tai's luxurious development. It is just a mere five-minute walk away from Orchard Road - Singapore's main shopping and entertainment belt where residents can shop to their heart's content at major shopping centres such as Ngee Ann City, The Paragon and Wisma Atria. They can enjoy afternoon tea with friends at the many alfresco cafes or at 5-star hotels such as Hilton Hotel, Marriott Hotel and Goodwood Park Hotel located along Orchard Road. Residents can also choose to relax or have business meetings at exclusive clubs such as the Tanglin Club and American Club that are situated nearby. Well-known hospitals such as Mount Elizabeth Hospital can be found within the vicinity while excellent schools such as Singapore Chinese Girls' School, Anglo-Chinese School and Raffles' Girls' Secondary School are just a short drive away.

Residents of this prime development not only enjoy the privilege of a prestigious address but also the convenience of nearby amenities and facilities as well as the tranquility and privacy of an esteemed residence.


Easy Accessibility
As the development is situated just seconds away from the Central Expressway that conveniently links to other major expressways, residents will find traveling to all parts of Singapore including Changi Airport and Raffles Place a total breeze. Public transports, such as MRT and bus, are also readily available within walking distance.

http://www.wingtaiasia.com.sg/images/phoenix-mansion/map_prime_site.gif

The site:

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Just next to The Light @ Cairnhill

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This project is asking 1800psf now. I saw it about a week ago.

The 2 bedroom unit is not bad for a single or a couple. Pity about the space wastage that went to building the bomb shelter.

Wow!

This is another one of those $1.2 million per studio apt kinda of condo !

YFG ... ...

And to think that in Nov 2004 it was reportedly launched at starting price of $650k...that's barely 2 years ago.

No la ...

VIDA is never so cheap ... the lowest since the investor preview has been ard $1,200 psf ...

That time ... of course ... people say too expensive ... thats why it din move very fast ... now on hindsight ... it is good to mark it so high ...

Compared to say Strata (in term of launch pricing) ... launch cheap sell fast ... make less ...

Cheers!

YFG ... ...

Issit? But I read this earlier...
Far East to launch freehold Vida this weekend

19 Nov 04

SINGAPORE : Developer Far East Organization is launching its freehold residential development, Vida, in the prime Cairnhill area this weekend.

Located on a hilltop at Cairnhill Rise, Vida consists of 137 studios, apartments and lofts.

The development is located close to the Newton MRT station as well as the Orchard Road shopping belt.

The one- and two-bedroom apartments range in size from 527 square feet for a one-bedroom unit to and 861 square feet for a two-bedroom.

Forty-nine premier units will be released during the official launch and prices start from S$650,000.

The first 10 buyers will enjoy an early-bird bonus of a membership at the Hollandse Club worth $10,000. - CNA

Correct lor ...

$650,000 ... and 527 sqft ... so $1,233 psf ...

YFG ... ...

Correct lor ...

$650,000 ... and 527 sqft ... so $1,233 psf ...

YFG ... ...

ok...dat's wat I mean la, i din calculate the PSF. Anyway, just wanted to point out it was half of what you mentioned (1.2mill)...

http://www.allgreen.com.sg/allgreencorp/imgbank/cairnhill1.jpg

Title : Developers launching new high-end condos in vicinity of Orchard Road
By :
Date : 24 January 2007 1826 hrs (SST)
URL : http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/singaporebusinessnews/view/254455/1/.html

SINGAPORE: Several high-end condominium projects sited in the heart of Orchard Road will be officially launched this coming weekend.

Developers say close proximity to the premium shopping belt will attract investors and home-buyers from both overseas and Singapore.

A 100-year old banyan tree will be preserved and made a landmark for the freehold St Thomas Suites at St Thomas Walk.

Located just off Killiney Road - or a stone's throw away from the busy Orchard Road - the luxurious twin 33-storey apartment blocks will stand on about 140,000 square feet of land.

Developer Frasers Centrepoint said it will preserve many of the existing trees and fauna, and reserve some 80 percent of the land for landscaping and greenery.

Expected to be completed by end 2010, the units are priced between S$1700 and S$2100 per square foot.

The smallest units are 1,800 square feet with 3 bedrooms - and they are expected to cost more than S$3m each.

"It's not a question of chasing after the top prices but really at the end of it all, giving good value, great value and owners will eventually feel and know that there's upside to the prices they are paying for right now," said Cheang Kok Kheong, General Manager, Development and Property, Frasers Centrepoint.

Analysts estimate that about 4,000 units of high-end units within districts 9, 10 and 11 will hit the market this year.

Even with prices surging, they say, these units will still see strong interest - especially from overseas buyers.

"In terms of the high-end, what we've been seeing of late is a surge in foreign interest because if you look at general pricing in major cities like Singapore, you compare prices from London, New York, Japan and even in Hong Kong, Singapore is still deem to be lower then the rest of the market," said Joseph Tan, Director Residential, CB Richard Ellis.

The new 20-storey Cairnhill Residences is one project that has seen good response.

It was launched in Jakarta and Hong Kong in November last year, and a sizeable portion of the units available for sale in one of the 20-storey tower blocks were snapped up by foreigners.

"We have done pretty well in two of our projects - we have sold 85 percent of Blossoms @ Woodleigh. Of the 180 units available we have sold more than 85 percent, and for Cairnhill Residences we have sold more than 80 percent of the units released in one of the tower blocks. So that gives us the impetus to launch our other projects because of encouraging response," said Yong Voon Chen, General Manager, Allgreen Properties.

Sized from 904 square feet 2-bedrooms to 2443 square feet pent house, the units were earlier sold overseas at a preview price of between S$1162 to S$1237 per square foot.

Depending on market response this weekend, Allgreen Properties said it might consider raising prices by some 3 to 5 percent.

Analysts say they are fairly optimistic that this momentum will continue to 2010 when most of these properties are completed, and they say prices could reach S$4,000 per square foot by then. - CNA /dt

The 1 Feb 07 (Thursday) issue of The Straits Times carried a full page advertisement stating that Cairnhill Residences are fully sold.

Name: City Vista

Developer: Chip Eng Leong

Location: Venus Mansion (Peck Hay Road) en bloc

Tenure: Freehold

District: 09

Total Units: 70

Name: City Vista

Developer: Chip Eng Leong

Location: Venus Mansion (Peck Hay Road) en bloc

Tenure: Freehold

District: 09

Total Units: 70

Any other details Arthur? Are you marketing this project?

Any other details Arthur? Are you marketing this project?yes, Savills is marketing the project:) will forward the details to you as soon as I hv t.:)

SC Global to launch Hilltops in Q2/Q3 2007
Strong interest in project before release of details


By UMA SHANKARI

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SC GLOBAL Developments yesterday said that it would be retaining the name Hilltops for its upcoming 240-unit luxury project on the former Hilltops Apartments and adjoining terrace houses site at Cairnhill Circle, which will be launched in the second or third quarter of this year.



Height of luxury: The 240-unit high-end development will be the first in Singapore to have a resort-style steam spa room in every apartment
Market sources said that units at Hilltop will be launched at between $2,500 and $3,000 per square foot.

The project is the second to be announced by the boutique developer this year. In January, SC Global said that The Marq on Paterson Hill will be launched by the third quarter of 2007. That project could be priced upwards of $3,000 psf, chief executive officer Simon Cheong was quoted as saying in a news agency report.

For Hilltops, the price and launch date will be announced at a later date, said SC Global.

Interest in Hilltops is already very strong, even before the project's details were unveiled, SC Global said. Sources said that both The Marq and Hilltops have also received interest from funds looking to acquire whole floors.

The development's 240 apartments will be housed in three blocks - two of 20 storeys and one 14-storey. Four penthouses - three regular penthouses and one super penthouse - will occupy the top floor of the two tallest blocks, each with a private pool on the roof terrace.

Most units at Hilltops will have three or four bedrooms, ranging from 1,600 sq ft to 3,000 sq ft, although two and five-bedroom units will also be available.

'Hilltops will be the first luxury development in Singapore to have a resort-style steam spa room in every apartment,' Mr Cheong said.

'The spa experience has become a regular part of the lifestyle of our high-end buyers. We, therefore, wanted to offer this luxurious indulgence as a standard feature at Hilltops to complement the overall resort atmosphere and provide the complete luxury experience for our buyers.'

Meanwhile, property firm Jones Lang LaSalle said yesterday that Char Yong Gardens, a freehold residential project on Hullet Road off Orchard Road, is up for collective sale.

Jones Lang LaSalle reckons that the site could fetch 10 to 20 per cent more than the price fetched by the recent sale of The Parisian at Angullia Park, which earlier this year notched a record $1,735 per sq ft per plot ratio (psf ppr), inclusive of a development charge (DC).

This works out to an estimated $1,900-2,100 psf ppr for Char Yong Gardens.

The 93,300 sq ft site has a gross plot ratio of 2.8 - giving it a gross floor area of 261,000 sq ft. The maximum building height is 20 storeys.

This could yield around 175 apartment units with an average size of 1,500 sq ft each, Jones Lang LaSalle estimates. The site comes with an estimated DC of $48 million.

'With strong market interest for high-end units and potential launch price of $2,500 to $3,000 psf onwards for new launches in recent months, the end product at Char Yong Gardens could potentially fetch more than $3,000 psf,' said Lui Seng Fatt, the regional director and head of investments at Jones Lang LaSalle.

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Nice sneak preview to tentalise the taste buds. :)

those that bought Cairnhill Residences must be laughing now:lol:

Hi RafflesCity,

Wondering if you now when are they launching? Love this location so much...:banana: Thanks.

Helios Residences

Helios is a Sun God. In order to have a name than is brighter than light, it must be the Sun.

Hi RafflesCity,

Wondering if you now when are they launching? Love this location so much...:banana: Thanks.
Savills is marketing this project:) end of the month:)

Nice location! Any indication of the unit sizes? Facilities? PSF?

This (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=12394797&postcount=39) article makes mention of the project.

Helios Residences? oh that sounds special for a project name rather than river xxx, xxxx view or xxx park....

Wondering how much wing tai will market this project at? At least a 2k psf? :nuts:

And will the Icarus's flock to Helios ??
Can't remember what happened next !!

why the light, which is next to it, can go beyond 20 stories while this development has a max height limit of 20 stories?

why the light, which is next to it, can go beyond 20 stories while this development has a max height limit of 20 stories?

I guess Wing Tai chose to construct the development this way. Could be an efficiency issue. Land size may not be big enough to maximise the full height potential too.

Helios Residences? oh that sounds special for a project name rather than river xxx, xxxx view or xxx park....

Wondering how much wing tai will market this project at? At least a 2k psf? :nuts:

definitely more than 2.5K psf considering down the road suites@cairnhill was transacted at 2.5K psf average (was invited about 2-3 weeks ago for the preview but agent said whole development sold to a tycoon one day before... so funny... all the invited guests were turned away on the eve)

foreign investors are really hotting up our property market by buying blocks or multiple units in developments.

coupled with Mr Mah's comments yesteday, I think we still have some good way to go for the property market.

why the light, which is next to it, can go beyond 20 stories while this development has a max height limit of 20 stories?

isn't the light at 20 storeys? thought the whole area cannot be taller due to height limit.

Wingtai asia freehold project located at cairnhill circle.
Helios Residences: $3,000psf. Freehold. 100+units.
2 bedroom- 1,300sqft.
3 bedroom- 1,700- 1,900sqft.
4 bedroom- 2,100sqft. Penthouses price n size to be confirm.

The PRICES is going crazy....!!! :nuts:

Hi!

Got some info on Helios Residences not sure if they are the latest.

Freehold
TOP Dec 2011
2 towers 20 storey
140 units

2/2+study: 1250 -1350sqft
3 bedroom: 1650 - 1950sqft
4 bedroom: 2000 - 2050sqft
Penthouse: To be advised


:cheers:

understand pre-launch is on now.

Any pictures of this?

understand pre-launch is on now.
not really pre-launch. Is bulk purchase.

not really pre-launch. Is bulk purchase.

aiyoh! another one ah... this time buyer from where? Indonesia? :lol:

not really pre-launch. Is bulk purchase.
another bulk purchase? i also wonder who this time? but not all units, i suppose, since viewing is on? should anyone ask, nope, i have not viewed this place.

come to think of it, i don't really like the peck hay area. one-way road and so congested.

another bulk purchase? i also wonder who this time? but not all units, i suppose, since viewing is on? should anyone ask, nope, i have not viewed this place.

come to think of it, i don't really like the peck hay area. one-way road and so congested.

I agree. It's the back alley of Cairnhill Road. Can we expect back alley price?

I agree. It's the back alley of Cairnhill Road. Can we expect back alley price?

what kind of back alley price are you expecting ar?:lol: see if i can talk to the developer:lol: :lol:

You guys really know how to talk the price down wor ...

Back alley har ? Half the price of front units ?

SI : Think u have to wait ... wait ... wait ...

But I think if bulk purchase ... price will be slightly lower ... you all want to bundle together and buy a few units or not ?

Cant believe it man ! Buy rice, soya sauce, washing powder, bicuits all got bulk purchase cheaper price ... even property also can like that ... damn smart man !!!

Arthur : we buy 5 can give 10% discount ?

YFG ... ...

You guys really know how to talk the price down wor ...

Back alley har ? Half the price of front units ?

SI : Think u have to wait ... wait ... wait ...

But I think if bulk purchase ... price will be slightly lower ... you all want to bundle together and buy a few units or not ?

Cant believe it man ! Buy rice, soya sauce, washing powder, bicuits all got bulk purchase cheaper price ... even property also can like that ... damn smart man !!!

Arthur : we buy 5 can give 10% discount ?

YFG ... ...

Guru, if I continue to wait, i think i will only be able to afford 3/4 of the unit when the market dips. :lol: Don't you think the run is scary enough? I don't want to get a heart attack by seeing the prices soar while i wait.

You guys really know how to talk the price down wor ...

Back alley har ? Half the price of front units ?

SI : Think u have to wait ... wait ... wait ...

But I think if bulk purchase ... price will be slightly lower ... you all want to bundle together and buy a few units or not ?

Cant believe it man ! Buy rice, soya sauce, washing powder, bicuits all got bulk purchase cheaper price ... even property also can like that ... damn smart man !!!

Arthur : we buy 5 can give 10% discount ?

YFG ... ...ok, give me 5 cheques:lol:

5 cheques useless already. called an agent to find out what cairnhill project is currently having preview. he said that sales have stopped.... due to enbloc sale. i suppose he is referring to this project. he didn't want to mention project name and said he will confirm later.

5 cheques useless already. called an agent to find out what cairnhill project is currently having preview. he said that sales have stopped.... due to enbloc sale. i suppose he is referring to this project. he didn't want to mention project name and said he will confirm later.

1 cheque to rule them all... :lol:

sorry, some correction... looks like that solo cheque did not manage to pull it off. agent called back to say they can continue to market the place.

Is about time Cairnhill Plaza go on enbloc

taken today (28May2007)

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lap pool looks really long. wonder what's the greenish patches near the foot of the condo - vines?

So they have the piece of land behind those Peranakan houses too?

Thought the land for phoenix mansion is squarish!

So they have the piece of land behind those Peranakan houses too?

Thought the land for phoenix mansion is squarish!

yeah, i thought the plot's squarish too. had a slightly closer look today at the site again and noticed that something has been built behind some of the conservation houses. think that structure may be the showflat?

Hi!

Got some info on Helios Residences not sure if they are the latest.

Freehold
TOP Dec 2011
2 towers 20 storey
140 units

2/2+study: 1250 -1350sqft
3 bedroom: 1650 - 1950sqft
4 bedroom: 2000 - 2050sqft
Penthouse: To be advised


:cheers:


I thought the web site says only aprox 80 units??

I thought the web site says only aprox 80 units??

ya ... just confirm 140units

is the address for this at cairnhill circle or cairnhill road? i see ads in the classifieds indicating cairnhill circle.

i read in today's sunday times that there are rumours that a hotel-branded residence coming up at cairnhill road. does anyone have any inkling where is might be?

is the address for this at cairnhill circle or cairnhill road? i see ads in the classifieds indicating cairnhill circle.

i read in today's sunday times that there are rumours that a hotel-branded residence coming up at cairnhill road. does anyone have any inkling where is might be?

It should be Cairnhill Road.

Erm .. most probably one of the recently enbloc sites?

It should be Cairnhill Road.

Erm .. most probably one of the recently enbloc sites?
i thought it's cairnhill road too. i cannot imagine the traffic at the traffic light nearest to the light. once hilltops and the cairnhill residences are all completed and fully occupied, it'll be nightmarish queuing to get out of that road.

Any body know the confirm selling price for Helios???

Heard that the expected Price is in the range of $2900 to $3400 psf.

Heard that the expected Price is in the range of $2900 to $3400 psf.


$3400??? WOW, if that is the selling price, I will pick parkview eclat which is selling at $3500.
I went to the eclat showunit yesterday and it is indeed luxurious. All the materials they used is 1st class. But of course see see only there.

Dont know is the Helios open their showunit yet.

The cairnhill road actually is not cogested, it is only cogested during the evening when parents come to pick their kids from ACS junior, or duirng wkend when pple swamp into the orchard for shopping, i live here for over 10 yrs, the Helios is sitting on the former Phoenix Mansion site, not a very big site but the location is second to none, 5 mins walk to Orchard, Paragon, Taka, etc. U hv a choice of 3 MRTs to walk to, ie, Sommerset, Orchard and Newton, all abt the same time (!). And of course, going to any part of Singapore, not matter how far away, is going to be less than 30 mins - cause u can take the CTE and connect to the other highways.

taken today (28May2007)

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lap pool looks really long. wonder what's the greenish patches near the foot of the condo - vines?

I guese the greenish patches are plants covering up the multi-storey carparks. It is quite a unique design becos till this while, we have a lot of condo blocks on long stilts eg cosmopolitan, domain 21 etc. This is the first time we have condo block on "greenery". It does make the areas look greener when you are travelling on road level. :banana:

That looks like a good design feature, screening the backlane of the shophouses from the development and vice versa. Some shophouse backlanes arent very pleasant, although these look like purely residential 'shop' houses.

I guese the greenish patches are plants covering up the multi-storey carparks. It is quite a unique design becos till this while, we have a lot of condo blocks on long stilts eg cosmopolitan, domain 21 etc. This is the first time we have condo block on "greenery". It does make the areas look greener when you are travelling on road level. :banana:
i like the greenery too. but shouldn't the carpark be underground? aren't they wasting precious levels for carpark above ground?

The cairnhill road actually is not cogested, it is only cogested during the evening when parents come to pick their kids from ACS junior, or duirng wkend when pple swamp into the orchard for shopping, i live here for over 10 yrs, the Helios is sitting on the former Phoenix Mansion site, not a very big site but the location is second to none, 5 mins walk to Orchard, Paragon, Taka, etc. U hv a choice of 3 MRTs to walk to, ie, Sommerset, Orchard and Newton, all abt the same time (!). And of course, going to any part of Singapore, not matter how far away, is going to be less than 30 mins - cause u can take the CTE and connect to the other highways.

the more i look at the rendering, the more i am beginning to think the entrance/exit is at cairnhill circle (the loop) and not cairnhill road. if it's cairnhill circle then the cars waiting to get out of the traffic light will have to be really patient.

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very green.

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notice the road on the left of the lap pool? think that's cairnhill circle.

Oh.. I noted there are " holes covered with transparent glass" at the bottom of the swimming pool to let in lights for the greenery below it.

That is interesting. It offers a bottom-up view for the people below the swimming pool. :lol:

The upcoming freehold development (with a maximum height of 20-storey and 140 units) is strategically sited along Cairnhill Road, next to The Light at Cairnhill - another Wing Tai’s luxurious development.

It is just a mere five-minute walk away from Orchard Road - Singapore’s main shopping and entertainment belt where residents can shop to their heart’s content at major shopping centres such as Ngee Ann City, The Paragon and Wisma Atria. They can enjoy afternoon tea with friends at the many alfresco cafes or at 5-star hotels such as Hilton Hotel, Marriott Hotel and Goodwood Park Hotel located along Orchard Road.

Residents can also choose to relax or have business meetings at exclusive clubs such as the Tanglin Club and American Club that are situated nearby.

Well-known hospital such as Mount Elizabeth Hospital can be found within the vicinity while excellent schools such as Singapore Chinese Girls’ School, Anglo-Chinese School and Raffles’ Girls’ Secondary School are just a short drive away.

Residents of this prime development not only enjoy the privilege of a prestigious address but also the convenience of nearby amenities and facilities as well as the tranquility and privacy of an esteemed residence.

Location: Cairnhill Road

Tenure: Freehold

Site area: 80000sqft

TOP: Dec 2011

Total units: 140 (2 towers of 20 storey apartments)

Unit types:

2/2+study ~ 1250-1350sqft
3br ~ 1650-1950sqft
4br ~ 2000-2050sqft
Penthouse ~ 4400sqft
Price: expected $3000psf onwards

Easy Accessibility

As the development is situated just seconds away from the Central Expressway that conveniently links to other major expressways, residents will find traveling to all parts of Singapore including Changi Airport and Raffles Place a total breeze. Public transports, such as MRT and bus, are also readily available within walking distance.

How's WingTai's track record as a developer, any good /bad experiences?

How's WingTai's track record as a developer, any good /bad experiences?
not bad. the lights, the tomlinson, draycott 8 are by them...:)

Hi Arthur,

I think its abit difficult to compare cairnhill residences with the new Hilltops. SCglobal's Hill Tops boasts of private spa and probably other exquisite fittings. I looked through All Green's cairnhill residences' package. I think what they are offering are quite within the normal package.

I wonder if Hill tops can follow closely to the launch price of Marq.

I would think that based on current asking prices for Cairnhill Residences (around $2300psf) that they would have to be a bargain. If Hilltops launches at lower end of expectations (say $3000psf), do you really think they deserve a 30% premium over Cairnhill Residences? For an average 3 bedroom apartment that's over $1,000,000 premium, and for what? A spa-styled steam room???? I could think of better value ways to get your spa experience!

Anyone knows how many units of the Helios have been sold?

lights and draycott not bad.. visioncrest no good but that was a 3-party joint project...

this project is avail for preview now, by appointment. if you require details, do feel free to pm me...

I would think that based on current asking prices for Cairnhill Residences (around $2300psf) that they would have to be a bargain. If Hilltops launches at lower end of expectations (say $3000psf), do you really think they deserve a 30% premium over Cairnhill Residences? For an average 3 bedroom apartment that's over $1,000,000 premium, and for what? A spa-styled steam room???? I could think of better value ways to get your spa experience!

Hi Thong Min,

I think we also have to look at the timing also. Of course the owners of Cairnhill Residences are asking $2,300 psf now since Hilltops has not launched (maybe soft launch as I am typing). But once it is official that Hilltops launches at 3k psf, would you think the owners will still look at 2300 psf? Given the strong sentiments, the asking price will go up to probably 2700 psf therefore lowering your Hilltops premium over Cairnhill residences.

One more thing to add too. Given how hot the property market, SC global can choose to launch an "ordinary" condo at a super location at a super price. But of course He has chosen to prove the point that his a boutique developer. The style, architecture and offerings will match the price tag by international standards. And now the question back to you, given both Hilltops and Cairnhill Residences both made available to you, would you pay 3000psf for Hilltops or buy Cairnhill Residences at 2700psf?

the market is driven by the luxury segment. actually the "cheaper" developments have to thank them for driving their prices up.

Hi Thong Min,

I think we also have to look at the timing also. Of course the owners of Cairnhill Residences are asking $2,300 psf now since Hilltops has not launched (maybe soft launch as I am typing). But once it is official that Hilltops launches at 3k psf, would you think the owners will still look at 2300 psf? Given the strong sentiments, the asking price will go up to probably 2700 psf therefore lowering your Hilltops premium over Cairnhill residences.

One more thing to add too. Given how hot the property market, SC global can choose to launch an "ordinary" condo at a super location at a super price. But of course He has chosen to prove the point that his a boutique developer. The style, architecture and offerings will match the price tag by international standards. And now the question back to you, given both Hilltops and Cairnhill Residences both made available to you, would you pay 3000psf for Hilltops or buy Cairnhill Residences at 2700psf?quality offered by Cairnhill Residences is not bad.

Hi Arthur,

Heard Hilltops had a soft launch already.. Is it true? You know whats the launch price?

Thanks

anyone been to the showflat yet? went, like the green pillars, esp in the reserved stacks but dunno why they have so many partitions at the skyterraces... not exactly impressed with the interiors of both showflat units... cant wait to see sc global's hilltops..

anyone been to the showflat yet? went, like the green pillars, esp in the reserved stacks but dunno why they have so many partitions at the skyterraces... not exactly impressed with the interiors of both showflat units... cant wait to see sc global's hilltops..wonder why they use black marble flooring

Anyone knows how many units of the Helios have been sold?

On the 15th of each month, URA website will be updated to show the units sold in the previous month for the developments.

At the end of July, the data for Helios are:



Total Number of Units in Project : 140
Cumulative Units Launched to-date: 63
Cumulative Units Sold to-date: 63
Cumulative Units Launched but Unsold: 0
Units Launched in the Month: 12
Units Sold in the Month: 12
Median Price($psf) : 3,023
Price Range (lowest to highest in $psf): 2,818 - 3,520

On the 15th of each month, URA website will be updated to show the units sold in the previous month for the developments.

At the end of July, the data for Helios are:



Total Number of Units in Project : 140
Cumulative Units Launched to-date: 63
Cumulative Units Sold to-date: 63
Cumulative Units Launched but Unsold: 0
Units Launched in the Month: 12
Units Sold in the Month: 12
Median Price($psf) : 3,023
Price Range (lowest to highest in $psf): 2,818 - 3,520
has helios done an official launch? i sometimes wonder how these developers report their numbers. If all by invitation and private enquiries, they can officially launch one unit, sell, then launch another one. Launching 12 units in a month sounds odd.

Any renderings? Is this built on the former Hilltops Apartments designed by Victor Chew?

Hi Arthur,

Heard Hilltops had a soft launch already.. Is it true? You know whats the launch price?

Thanks
preview this week, am going in on sunday

Do bring a camera if possible! :D

Hi Arthur,

What is the preview price on sunday?

Thanks!

Hi Arthur,

What is the preview price on sunday?

Thanks!very very nice. design is like 33 robin but far better.

very very nice. design is like 33 robin but far better.

thanks. what is the indicative pricing?

The feature of a spa in every unit makes me go gah-gah :lol:

thanks. what is the indicative pricing?errr.... dont know can I reveal the price. higher than helios residences. around scotts square average price.

The feature of a spa in every unit makes me go gah-gah :lol:

nothing special. you can find that in most condo changing room.

as usual, the quality finishing and fitting are the major selling point.

If it higher than helios then it means this whole cairnhill circle is going to be seriously top end

If it higher than helios then it means this whole cairnhill circle is going to be seriously top end

With SC Global planting its flag there, it should be. It will be interesting to see how this affects the developer's asking prices for the remaining units at The Marq.

Simon Cheong used to say that ONLY Orchard Road was the profitable area. Look, no more land, so he build in Cairnhill?

Cairnhill can be considered as another segment of Orchard?

Orchard Scotts is even further down Cairnhill but bears the "Orchard" name.

It is called Orchard Scotts because it is near orchard and at scotts, a name which I think FEO bochap one.

With SC Global planting its flag there, it should be. It will be interesting to see how this affects the developer's asking prices for the remaining units at The Marq.

Today's ST reports that Hilltops has successfully sold 20++ units at about 3900psf!! Bull run on cairnhill!!

i am a fan of simon cheong. still think he got prob clearing the next 230 units at this price.

prob managed to clear these units during oct bullish window. now sentiment cautious again. unless sell to fund like cliveden.

Simon Cheong used to say that ONLY Orchard Road was the profitable area. Look, no more land, so he build in Cairnhill?
I think Cairnhill is just as much a part of Orchard as Ardmore/Draycott are.

i am a fan of simon cheong. still think he got prob clearing the next 230 units at this price.

prob managed to clear these units during oct bullish window. now sentiment cautious again. unless sell to fund like cliveden.

SC has not got the financial means to be like CDL. However, if SC buys up a block of their own apartments in partnership with a fund like what CDL did, you can certainly SC is very confident of the market and the only way prices will go is up north for those areas these funds bought in.

Yeah CDL bought 44 units @ it's Cliveden at Grange.

SC has not got the financial means to be like CDL. However, if SC buys up a block of their own apartments in partnership with a fund like what CDL did, you can certainly SC is very confident of the market and the only way prices will go is up north for those areas these funds bought in.

Why share potential profits with others if you think prices will rise. Simon is one guy that will maximise his profit and dont share with others.

CDL may have couple of reasons to sell to fund

- prices not going up much further
- redeploy cash into other devt.
- reduce debts
- planning to pay div on ord and pref shares
- got other better opportunities

ditto for SC.

Yeah ^^

By the way has the old Hilltops been demolished?

Yeah ^^

By the way has the old Hilltops been demolished?

I never go check.

Supposed to be in Sept 07.

Then it's bye bye old Hilltops. It was quite a architecture marvel in a way - architect Victor Chew designed it such that no unit could look into the other.

Then it's bye bye old Hilltops. It was quite a architecture marvel in a way - architect Victor Chew designed it such that no unit could look into the other.

honestly, I dont think so. If an architecture cannot stand as a marvel on its facade and structure, who cares about the internals.

It was a marvel on the exterior too. It'll look better with more glass, but during that time, the trend of having a lot of glass had not reached our sunny beaches yet.

Why share potential profits with others if you think prices will rise. Simon is one guy that will maximise his profit and dont share with others.

CDL may have couple of reasons to sell to fund

- prices not going up much further
- redeploy cash into other devt.
- reduce debts
- planning to pay div on ord and pref shares
- got other better opportunities

ditto for SC.

such as $2.73 billion for Beach Rd :lol:

Nice one overlorden ^^ :lol: :)

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Developer-Wan-Li Development Pte Ltd(Far East Organization)
Property Type-Apartment
Tenure - Freehold
Total Units - 137
Completion Date - Uncompleted
District - 9

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Project Name-HELIOS RESIDENCES
Developer-Winnervest Investment Pte Ltd
Property Type-Apartment
Tenure - Freehold
Total Units - 140
Completion Date - Uncompleted
District - 9

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Project Name-RHAPSODY ON MOUNT ELIZABETH(Former THE ESQUIRE)
Developer-Cairnhill Development Pte Ltd(EL Development Pte Ltd)
Property Type-Apartment
Tenure - Freehold
Total Units - 32
Completion Date - Uncompleted
District - 9

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Helios Residences (District 9)

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Summary

Developer : Winnervest Investment Pte Ltd
Est. TOP : 2011
District : 9 (Cairnhill)
Est. Quantum Price : To Be Released
Location : 15, 17 Cairnhill Circle
No. Of Towers : 8
Tenure : Freehold
No. Of Storey : 20
Site Area : To Be Released
No. Of Units : 140
Main Orientation : To Be Released
Units Composition : 2, 2+Study, 3, 4 Bedrooms and Penthouse
Distance to MRT : 7 Mins Walk to Newton MRT
Buyers Eligibility : Locals/PRs/Foreigners
Payment Scheme : Normal Progressive
Primary Schools within 1km : Anglo-Chinese School (Junior)

Unit Types and Sizes

(No. of Units - Size (sqft))

2 Bedroom
19 - 1313

2 Bedroom + Study
38 - 1281

3 Bedroom
66 - 1668/1701/1916

4 Bedroom
14 - 2002

Penthouse
3 - 3918/4564

Total Units : 140

Facilities

Treetop Pool
Jacuzzi
Sun Deck
Recreational Deck
Lift
Gymnasium
Treetop Bridge
Steam Room
Sauna Room
Relaxation Foyer
Alfresco Theatre cum Leisure Lounge
Private Dining cum Games Lounge
Children’s Interactive Lounge
Indoor Fun Pool with Trellis Rain Curtain Feature
Indoor Playground Area
Party Pad

Facade

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Swimming Pool

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