High-speed rail expected in Russia by 2014 - RZD

09/02/2007 18:38 ROME, February 9 (RIA Novosti) - High-speed rail links are planned to be built between Russia's major cities and to Finland in 2012-2014, the head of Russian Railways (RZD) said on Friday.

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Whole text: http://en.rian.ru/russia/20070209/60481498.html

Over 300 km/h between Moscow and Piter? This means a new high speed line, I think.

An entire new line. 350kph. Present line is under upgrade from 200 to 250kph currently.

New line sounds good :cheers:

This will be the train the Velaro RUS:

http://www.ice-fanpage.de/bilder/velaro/Velaro_RUS_aussen.jpg

is it rendering?

is it rendering?

I think so, as far as I know it's a picture from Siemens.

is it rendering?

Could it be a retouched photo of an ICE?

The article says that RZD has signed a memorandum of understanding with FS (Italian railways), so perhaps they're also interested in Pendolino tilting technology.

No. Pendolino is different case. RZhD have a contract with Siemens on 8 Velaro RUS trains. First train should be shipped at the end of 2007 and will go to service in early 2009.

Could it be a retouched photo of an ICE?

The article says that RZD has signed a memorandum of understanding with FS (Italian railways), so perhaps they're also interested in Pendolino tilting technology.

The Pendolino is planned for St. Petersburg–Helsinki, the Velaro RUS is planned for Piter–Moscow and later Moscow–Nishni Novgorod, as far as I remember.

The Velaro RUS is a „brother“ of the Velaro E and the ICE 3.

Russia's fastest train gets from Moscow to St. Petersburg in 3h 45m (http://en.rian.ru/russia/20091218/157280399.html)

Sapsan, Russia's fastest train (http://en.rian.ru/search/?query=sapsan)


I bet this doesn't breakdown in the snow ;)

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Nice train how long did it take with the old trains?:cheers:

-29 degree:) what a warm place:D

Nice train how long did it take with the old trains?:cheers:

4h 30m day express
8h night train

All of them are still in use as well as 3h 45m Sapsan

so the train average 173km/h.

are they expected to go faster with track upgrades?

4M6T version of Velaro.

M+T+M+T+T+T+T+M+T+M?

173/kmh is not bad at all

If it's a Moscow-Saint Pete service, how come it goes to Rostov na Donu?

It was on trial runs on high speed test track at Maykop.

great looking train:cheers:

nice train :cheers:

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http://parovoz.com/gallery/RU47/20090302_185057.jpg

^the video was taken almost a year ago on a test track


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Can someone tell me why is there such a big gap? Is it because the conventional Russian trains are much wider?

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/4100/izus.24/0_2fd4d_31df31f_XL.jpg

Just poor quality RZD standards on platforms. Trains are wider, but there are a lot of such gaps on many stations even with conventional trains.

Is that train goes only in the winter?

Is that train goes only in the winter?

^^:hilarious

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/3712/dimonurban.13/0_14590_d4918854_XL.jpg

Why is that dude on the right going on the rail tracks :lol:? Is he trying to kill himself lol.

No, I think he's just paing attention to that staff, using his foot :lol:

Well the train isn't going anywhere, its all hooked up to those cables on the ground, looks like he's a railway worker with a purpose.

First Allegro (Pendolino Sm6) has been shipped to Helsinki

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Путешествие на поезде "Сапсан"

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What kind of research was ( or is still) made concerning Maglev trains in Russia? I Know, it was done during the Communist Era and I read that it was planned originally to build the subway of Almaty according this technology, but as result of technical problems not done. Who knows more?

Maglev in subway of Almaty? Sorry, dude, it is Sci-Fi.

First of all, maglev is very complex and expensive. Second, the main advantage of maglev is high speed. But high speed can be achived only on long distance (tens or hundreds kilometres). Typical distance between subway station about 1-1.5-2 kilometres. Imho, maglev can not be used as subway from both economic and technical point of view.

P.S. Sorry for engRish.

Nevertheless, the use of MagLev in Russia would be very sensitive.

Some useful info here
Russian Maglev in the movie
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elY5muZNyTc
Currently, this should be the company working on the technology nowadays
http://erc-temp.ru/
There is loads of information on http://mag-lev.narod.ru/

RZD seeks international high speed expertise

31 August 2011


RUSSIA: Foreign contractors would be invited to bid for the construction of a proposed high speed line between Moscow and St Petersburg, Russian Railways President Vladimir Yakunin has confirmed.

A seminar was held in Moscow on August 29 to discuss the potential for South Korean suppliers and financiers to co-operate in the development of a Russian high speed network, and Yakunin said RZD is also 'actively studying' high speed rail in France, Germany, Italy, Japan, the Netherlands and Spain.

RZD subsidiary Skorostniy Magistrali is developing proposals for a 660 km high speed line which would cut Moscow - St Petersburg journey times to 2½ h from the current 3 h 45 min on the 645 km existing route used by 250 km/h Siemens Sapsan trains.

According to RZD, the new line would have capacity for 'up to 42 trains to run simultaneously at speeds of up to 400 km/h, allowing for the transportation of up to 8 million passengers per year.'

Yakunin said the high speed proposal is not only 'a formidable business project', but also 'a crucial element of state policy with respect to innovation and socioeconomics'.

http://www.railwaygazette.com/nc/news/single-view/view/rzd-seeks-international-high-speed-expertise.html

Russian Railways orders eight more Sapsan trains (http://www.railwaygazette.com/nc/news/single-view/view/russian-railways-orders-eight-more-sapsan-trains.html)


Russian Railways signed an order for a further eight Siemens Velaro RUS high speed trainsets on December 19. The contract is worth €600m, including a 30-year maintenance agreement.

The 10-car trainsets will be manufactured at Siemens' Krefeld plant in Germany for delivery from January 2014. They will be used to increase capacity on the Moscow - St Petersburg route, where the first Velaro RUS trains entered service in December 2009 running at up to 250 km/h. A Moscow - Nizhny Novgorod service was launched in July 2010.

Increasing the fleet will provide spare capacity during train maintenance, and offer the possibility of running in pairs to provide 20-car trains.

Siemens said the newly-ordered trains will include an additional premium class area and a 'superior-comfort' VIP zone, with all cars offering internet access.

At the contract signing, RZD President Vladimir Yakunin said Sapsan services between Moscow and St Petersburg 'have become an integral part of the transit infrastructure for the residents of the two cities'; RZD presented a certificate to the five millionth Sapsan passenger on December 17.

The Sapsan schedule between Moscow and St Petersburg does not make sense.

http://eng.rzd.ru/isvp/public/rzdeng?STRUCTURE_ID=4212

Sometimes they're every 15 minutes, and sometimes you have to wait nearly 9 hours for the next one.

Bizarre railroad.

The Sapsan schedule between Moscow and St Petersburg does not make sense.

http://eng.rzd.ru/isvp/public/rzdeng?STRUCTURE_ID=4212

Sometimes they're every 15 minutes, and sometimes you have to wait nearly 9 hours for the next one.

Bizarre railroad.
Well, because there is an rush hours and a non-rush hours... And the Simens didn't installed 2 train capability on the first set of trains :ohno: So railway is forced to launch them one after another.

And the maximal gap isn't 9 hours - no sane person would ride a sitting train all night long, while Moscow - St. P. still have a number of sleepers, both premium and regular. There is just no demand on Sapsan after 20 and before 6.

So any news on the brand new high speed line to be constructed between Moscow and St. Petersburg?

Well, because there is an rush hours and a non-rush hours... And the Simens didn't installed 2 train capability on the first set of trains :ohno: So railway is forced to launch them one after another.

And the maximal gap isn't 9 hours - no sane person would ride a sitting train all night long, while Moscow - St. P. still have a number of sleepers, both premium and regular. There is just no demand on Sapsan after 20 and before 6.

You really have no clue. Did you even look at the schedule?
The nine-hour gap is during the day!
No capital-bound Sapsan trains leave St Petersburg between 7 am and 1:30 pm. No northbound Sapsan trains leave Moscow between 7 am and 1:30pm.

Surely there is demand for Sapsan during the day!

Sure, there are other daytime trains between the two cities that take twice as long. But I wonder why there is such a huge gap during the day.

Acela, for example, runs every hour during the day between New York and the capital, and this on a congested stretch of track dealing with other Amtrak trains and three different suburban railroads.

The 9-hour gap is not surprising. What's surprising is it's preceded by a 15-minute gap. Maybe someone knows the reason...?

There is no place for them. The line is overloaded with suburban trains.

You really have no clue. Did you even look at the schedule?
The nine-hour gap is during the day!
No capital-bound Sapsan trains leave St Petersburg between 7 am and 1:30 pm. No northbound Sapsan trains leave Moscow between 7 am and 1:30pm.

Surely there is demand for Sapsan during the day!

Sure, there are other daytime trains between the two cities that take twice as long. But I wonder why there is such a huge gap during the day.

Acela, for example, runs every hour during the day between New York and the capital, and this on a congested stretch of track dealing with other Amtrak trains and three different suburban railroads.

The 9-hour gap is not surprising. What's surprising is it's preceded by a 15-minute gap. Maybe someone knows the reason...?

Yeah, I missed the day gap, sorry.

AFAIK, NEC has numerous 3- and 4-track stretches (my knowledge about NEC is partly from Microsoft Train Simulator, lol), unlike the Oktyabr Railroad Mainline, wich is 2 track. The construction of 4 track section between Lenigradski Terminal in Moscow and station Krukovo in Moscovska oblast (=state) started this year, and it need some time to be completed.

The plane schedules also show that early morning and late evening flights have a higher demand, the sames goes for the trains.

I believe the current schedule does not contain the additional Nizhniy Novgorod-St. Petersburg through trains because currently the units are being moved on after another to Germany for a regular big check.

Is that train goes only in the winter?

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