This is a beautiful city in the heart of Romania.

Please fell free to add your own pictures from Cluj

http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/299/cluj1pd7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/3802/cluj1wf8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Cluj September 2002 video - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKZ0eFdbCmY


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Decent terrace ... and view :) :cheers:
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Cluj Townhall

http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/8285/zz11ex6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Visit Cluj ... Visit Romania ... :cheers:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOz3KJ-hnqE&mode=related&search=

This was filmed 5 years ago (2002) ... a lot has changed since ... :cheers:

Excelent omule, good job.

Excelent omule, good job.

^^ "Every little helps". E tara mea ... si nu am uitat-o ... :cheers:

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It looks very Hungarian.

Hey do i only think that the building from the last picture looks so much like the building of our national theatre in Sofia ? Or at least the two towers and the sculptures are so much look alike :)

http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/4199/c4xe1.jpg

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/589/thetreww6.jpg

It looks very Hungarian.

^^ Rather Austrian, I'd say ...:nuts:

^^ Rather Austrian, I'd say ...:nuts:

Why?

-Ataman

^^ Why not?

^^ Why not?

Are you implying Cluj was more Austrian than Hungarian?

-Ataman

^^ Are you implying Cluj was more Hungarian than Austrian ?

^^ Are you implying Cluj was more Hungarian than Austrian ?

You know the answer to that, so why ask?

-Ataman

Are you implying Cluj was more Austrian than Hungarian?


You know the answer to that, so why ask?

more pictures please ;)

You know the answer to that, so why ask?

I am more in favour of a less direct approach. You have still evaded my first question however.

-Ataman

^^ OK bye

you hungarian still think that cluj is urs?????
!!!!!!!!!!!!!:ohno: :ohno: :nuts: :nuts: :ohno: :ohno: :ohno: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
nebunul nu il dai seama!! cred ca vrea sa face o problema!
:cheers: to all

Arhitecture definitly looks hungarian,although I see some got a problem with that :ohno:

^^ what s the problem with u all who say that Cluj has hungarian architecture? what, hungarians invented art nouveau or baroque or gothic etc.?please!:lol:

^^ pescarush :) ... they need first to study a bit of art history and architecture ... maybe read a bit about roman style, Florence/Europe renaissance period, a bit about gothic, baroque, neo-baroque, mannerism ...finally modernism architectural styles etc ... and then they will ... maybe ... understand ... no point to have conversations with ignorants :cheers:

yeah....nice!

Cluj is a nice city. It did not change much in last 30 years.

more pictures please ;)

^^ more for bizi :) :cheers:
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another point of view ...
http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/5323/52465420ta6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Cosmopolitan old Cluj
http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/6110/89757740cw0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

... and updated pic ...:)
http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/5420/44073655dc7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

CityHall facade
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/5179/48768400fi4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Cluj getting a make over :cheers:
http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/2153/14201633yi9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/6001/49774293dm4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Colourfull panorama
http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/6515/91773083ws4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

random...
http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/29/43875205od8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

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http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/1904/75244395lc6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

the project of remaking the central street is made by Planwerk, a local urbanism and architecture firm. they were my profesors in 5th year of faculty.
great guys! great times.



Cluj getting a make over :cheers:
http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/2153/14201633yi9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

^^ what s the problem with u all who say that Cluj has hungarian architecture? what, hungarians invented art nouveau or baroque or gothic etc.?please!:lol:

So you will have to say Cluj was a British, Belgian, and French town at once, since the architectural styles present come from those countries, rather than Austria-Hungary.

With the exception of secession, Austrians haven't "invented" any architectural "style". But even secession is simply a branch of Art-Noveau.

-Ataman

^^ Oiiiiii ... Open your thread about hungary and Cluj; I do not need your rubbish here:drool:

So you will have to say Cluj was a British, Belgian, and French town at once, since the architectural styles present come from those countries, rather than Austria-Hungary.

With the exception of secession, Austrians haven't "invented" any architectural "style". But even secession is simply a branch of Art-Noveau.

-Ataman

bla bla.......try to study alittle bit as is written above my dear!.......etc:nuts:

bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla ..............etc:nuts:

Wlecome to Europe :ohno:

Wlecome to Europe :ohno:

No worries. :)

Most Europeans (including Romanians) are above dumb and nationalistic comments like these.

-Ataman

man i didn't understand anything from his words how can he say cluj is Belgian French and British town!!
every city in this whole world has mix architecture styles..right??
what ever..every person has a different opinion

No worries. :)

Most Europeans (including Romanians) are above dumb and nationalistic comments like these.

-Ataman
ohh people!

man i didn't understand anything from his words how can he say cluj is Belgian French and British town!!


I was saying that in response to Nebunul's comment about how the architectural style is Austrian, not Hungarian. My apologies if you misunderstood me.


every city in this whole world has mix architecture styles..right??


Very true.

ohh people!

Feel free to interpret my comments as "nationalistic" and "dumb". :) Whether or not I agree is a different matter.

-Ataman

The architecture of Cluj same as that of other big cities of Transilvania matches the architecture of the empire it belonged to.

Some of the buildings were built in a period of aggressive nationalistic policy of the ruling hungarian administration toward the end of the KuK Monarchy. For it and for the much longer discrimination of the romanian ethnics the hungarian administration took consequences almost one century ago, so it's no point to discuss this any longer

Palaces are always built by the ruling class, but it's always the ordinary men paying for - as simply as that.
In Cluj the architecture ist very typical for the habsburg austro-hungarian empire, having hardly any typical hungarian elements.
It is representative for the ruling class of the time, same as the concret blocks 40-80 years later were representative for a communist regime.

Something rather specific hungarian i guess is the Teleki palace in Tg. Mures.
http://www.visittransilvania.ro/images/palatcultmures002.jpg

Kolozsvár / Cluj (1617.):
http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/3306/kolozsle4.png

Kolozsvár / Cluj, Main Square, Equestrian statue of King Matthias Corvinus of Hungary and the old gothic church of St. Michael’s:
http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/5690/kolozsun4.png

The birthplace of King Matthias Corvinus of Hungary (1443-1490):
http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/7197/kolozsui9.png

Házsongárdi Cemetery:
The "Házsongárd" Cemetery is one of the oldest and most famous Hungarian graveyards. It was opened in 1585 by a decision of the Town Council.
http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/7026/kolozskm8.png

thanx for the info

Just a reminder to whom it may concern that Matei Corvin ( Matthias Corvinus) was born in Transilvania (not Hungary) and was the son of a vlah (Romanian) who became regent of Hungary

Matthias was born in the house currently known as "Matthias Corvinus House" in Kolozsvár/Klausenburg (present-day Cluj-Napoca), Transylvania, the second son of John Hunyadi – a successful Vlach military leader, who had risen through the ranks of the nobility to become regent of Hungary –, and Erzsébet Szilágyi, from a Hungarian noble family. The later epithet Corvinus was coined by Matthias' biographer, the Italian Antonio Bonfini, who claimed that the Hunyadi family (whose coat of arms depicts a raven—corvus in Latin) descended from the ancient Roman gens (Romanian genes) of the Corvini.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthias_Corvinus_of_Hungary
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vlachs

gooo Nebunul gooo
nice information dude
so lets correct our databases...

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^^SAD FOR SOME ... BUT TRUE :banana: :cheers: :banana:

What is the percentage of Hungarian population in this city right now ?

^^ To be honest with you it does not matter. Romanians, Germans, Hungarians, Serbs, Bulgarians etc.... we all live in peace in a country called Romania

You asked though ...

Romanians (79.4%)
Hungarians (18.9%)

and

1% Gypsy, 0.23% Germans and 0.06% Jews.

More Cluj-Napoca
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http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/4341/234wn1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

and ... panorama ...
http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/5069/123pq3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

beautiful city.

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/1126/94937384yu6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Make over project for Unirii Square
http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/7337/55673181qk0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://www.romanialibera.ro/a98147/schimbarea-la-fata-a-centrului-clujului.html

architect - http://www.planwerkcluj.org/ro/planwerk.htm

BRD

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BANCA TRANSILVANIA

http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/104/bancatransilvaniazz0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

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commie side
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http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/4381/bisericasfmihailjm3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Just a reminder to whom it may concern that Matei Corvin ( Matthias Corvinus) was born in Transilvania (not Hungary) and was the son of a vlah (Romanian) who became regent of Hungary

Matthias was born in the house currently known as "Matthias Corvinus House" in Kolozsvár/Klausenburg (present-day Cluj-Napoca), Transylvania, the second son of John Hunyadi – a successful Vlach military leader, who had risen through the ranks of the nobility to become regent of Hungary –, and Erzsébet Szilágyi, from a Hungarian noble family. The later epithet Corvinus was coined by Matthias' biographer, the Italian Antonio Bonfini, who claimed that the Hunyadi family (whose coat of arms depicts a raven—corvus in Latin) descended from the ancient Roman gens (Romanian genes) of the Corvini.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthias_Corvinus_of_Hungary
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vlachs

When are you guys going to realize that nationalism is a modern invention, as is the consensus among virtually all serious scholars on nationalism. Before the second half of the 18th century, communities were predminantly local, there was no such thing as a national imagined community (a term coined by Benedict Anderson). There was no such thing as a Romanian nation, and no such thing as a Hungarian nation in the sense that those people felt connected with each other. There was no standardised language and there was no national media so there was no way to feel an interconnection between members of the state.

Furthermore, states were ruled by the nobility, who were given the authority to rule the country by God as people believed. The European nobility was and still is one big family (for instance, the Russian tsars spoke French) and only from the 19th century on the monarchs start to identify with the country they ruled (learned the language, and in the case of the British royal family changed their name to make it sound less German -> Windsor).

Nationalism is a sort of side-effect of industrialisation, as Ernest Gellner and more or less Benedict Anderson proposed. On the one hand, industrialisation asked for a homogenous population and the governed persued this with a nation-building policy (introduction of state schooling in a standardized national language) and on the other hand the indistrialisation was making people concious of their shared identity because they spake the same standardized language, read the same newspaper and made careers in the same capital city (people from all over France made their careers in Paris, creating a shared identity despite the fact that they came from very different areas. This last nationalism, that of Anderson, is sometimes called bottom-up nationalism, the nationalism that occurred in the bourgeoisie at first. A good example of this nationalism is the French revolution of 1789.

It is probably hard for you to imagine, but a national identity did not exist in that time. People who wanted to make career changed their faith to the one that was recognized by the state (in this case, Roman Catholic) and began to speak Hungarian, because that is the language of the nobility. They did this without any reluctance, because language in that time was not a part of a national identity, it had only a functional purpose, namely that of communication. Many Hungarians in Transylvania probably have Romanian roots.

But that doesn't make them less Hungarian, national and ethic identity are only relevant when it means something for a person, there is no such thing as Romanian blood or Hungarian blood streaming through the veins of those people.

I'm appaled by the way some people on this forum constitute the Romanian identity in an ethnic way. "Transylvania is now ours", "Cluj is now ours" etc. Why not say that Transylvania is a multicultural region with a rich German, Hungarian and Romanian cultural heritage. Transylvania is Hungarian, German and Romanian. Why not constitute Romanian nationalism in a civic way, like in France or the United States. In the U.S. it doesn't matter to which ethnic group you belong ("we are all immigrants"), as long as you believe in the American Dream, as long as you respect freedom and democracy (those two terms for a large part constitute American nationalism) and as long as you participate in society, you are American.

Translated to the Romanian context, no matter what language you speak at home and no matter what to ahich ethnic group you belong, you are Romanian as long as you believe in Romania and participate in society. Romania, and especially Transylvania is multi-ethnic. Hungarians won't disappear; you have to live with that. The only way you can include all people of your country in a national identity is when you constitute it in a civic way.

Wikipedia links:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imagined_communities
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civic_nationalism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_nationalism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationalism

The architecture of Cluj same as that of other big cities of Transilvania matches the architecture of the empire it belonged to.

Some of the buildings were built in a period of aggressive nationalistic policy of the ruling hungarian administration toward the end of the KuK Monarchy. For it and for the much longer discrimination of the romanian ethnics the hungarian administration took consequences almost one century ago, so it's no point to discuss this any longer

Palaces are always built by the ruling class, but it's always the ordinary men paying for - as simply as that.
In Cluj the architecture ist very typical for the habsburg austro-hungarian empire, having hardly any typical hungarian elements.
It is representative for the ruling class of the time, same as the concret blocks 40-80 years later were representative for a communist regime.

I couldn't agree more! :)

http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/1464/dscf0184oq0.jpg

http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/3433/dscf0185ly8.jpg

http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/7126/dscf0186rz1.jpg
^^ this building in the middle was made by my ex teacher, mr.Mitrea

LOL,the last building is really cool!I like it and it's very fresh.I hope we both have more like it,because we lack fresh ideas.

yes, indeed, it s fresh still, as in the time it was build, that is 70's.
and if u can see in our times this architecture is used as large scale, to express modernity in our cities. only some of new developments cannot remain 'fresh' after many years, cause of superficiality and fast changing world.

BTW, this is Romtelecum building, having since 2-3 years a new addition:

http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/8484/52213696tt5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

^^ Not so much crap design ... but crap/cheap cladding/finish

i hoped somebody will say something about it:)
yes, indeed, it s crap cladding; i would say chitchable:nuts:

frumos oras .. de fiecare data cand treci prin el observi ceva schimbat .. bravo Boc !

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Birds and lightbulbs

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/2453/clar5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Orthodox Cathedral and Avram Iancu statue

http://img471.imageshack.us/img471/8673/cjjjjgc5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

nice! :okay:
old buildings are in very good condition :okay:

http://www.planwerkcluj.org/ro/planwerk.htm

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Opsss ... sory for extra size ...

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Hehehe Wecome to Cluj-Napoca :cheers:

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/6084/a1yf0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

another good looking city ...nice historical feeling from centre of the city

Cluj Napoca - The L.A. of the East

http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/5743/clujbge6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

New stadium (upgrade) for CFR Cluj (28.000) TBC 2008

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Investor (owner)
http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/4117/cfr4ownerlw0.png (http://imageshack.us)

http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/9374/cfrstadkp7.jpg (http://imageshack.us) CFR Cluj - Benfica - Friendly Match
http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/7664/cfrclujky5.jpg (http://imageshack.us) CFR Logo
http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/9973/art981381nf0.jpg (http://imageshack.us) Didy
:cheers:
Web Site : www.cfr-ecomax.ro/

http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/6968/150pxlogouclujnu9.jpg (http://imageshack.us) U Cluj Logo
http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/6527/clujhq8.jpg (http://imageshack.us) The team :)

Old Cluj
36kfIbm1BAA

When are you guys going to realize that nationalism is a modern invention, as is the consensus among virtually all serious scholars on nationalism. Before the second half of the 18th century, communities were predminantly local, there was no such thing as a national imagined community (a term coined by Benedict Anderson). There was no such thing as a Romanian nation, and no such thing as a Hungarian nation in the sense that those people felt connected with each other. There was no standardised language and there was no national media so there was no way to feel an interconnection between members of the state.

I contradict you. Yes, there was a Romanian nation before the 18th century which manifested in the unification of the 3 Romanian provinces (Moldova, Transilvania and Valahia) in the year 1600 by the Romanian (Valahian) king Michael (who was aware of the similar language and origins of the inhabitants of such provinces), by the fact that many Western and local historians recognized the similar language of the people of the 3 provinces and the fact that had a common origin stemming from the Romans.


Nationalism is a sort of side-effect of industrialisation, as Ernest Gellner and more or less Benedict Anderson proposed. On the one hand, industrialisation asked for a homogenous population and the governed persued this with a nation-building policy (introduction of state schooling in a standardized national language) and on the other hand the indistrialisation was making people concious of their shared identity because they spake the same standardized language, read the same newspaper and made careers in the same capital city (people from all over France made their careers in Paris, creating a shared identity despite the fact that they came from very different areas. This last nationalism, that of Anderson, is sometimes called bottom-up nationalism, the nationalism that occurred in the bourgeoisie at first. A good example of this nationalism is the French revolution of 1789

No, I do not agree that nationalism in Romania came along industrialisation. Nationalism in Romania, as pointed above was always present (as in other nations I believe) but manifested itself at best when empires fell (Ottoman and Austrian) and allowed the 3 provinces to unite the nation into a sole country.


I'm appaled by the way some people on this forum constitute the Romanian identity in an ethnic way. "Transylvania is now ours", "Cluj is now ours" etc.

Now I get to see that you read a lot of books but are not in touch with the news in the countries you comment on with so much confidence. There is no problem among the different nationalities living in Romania and Transilvania. Poeple are doing just fine until some politicians are starting to inflame things up. And more recently, it is Hungarian politicians who are extremists and not the Romanian politicians.

Anyways, I am very angry at the West giving Romania lessons on how to behave with minorities considering the recent events in Italy. Romania has now one of the best minority regime in EU. Let me ask you one question: Hungarian minority in Romania is smaller than the muslim minority in Netherlands. Are muslims in Netherlands members of the Parliament and Cabinet? Does Holland put Arabic names on its cities? Until you do that, Netherlands is not a country to teach us respect for minorities.

Decent size pool ...
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CFR Cluj :cheers: ... ZA leaders
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http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj115/commodoressc/cj1.jpg

Cluj 2007.

http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/5449/imag096td1.jpg

http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/1290/imag098ke3.jpg

http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/7029/imag102hc3.jpg

the Theater.

http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/83/imag108af4.jpg

Insomnia cafe - best music, best atmosphere, cheap prices, cool people. don t miss it.

http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/5986/imag104hs9.jpg

Palace of Justice.

http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/8994/imag110rq9.jpg

Iulius Mall. the exterior is not such a piece of art, but in the inside 'it worth the money'. it s stylish and with good taste, not borring.

http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/2958/imag113na4.jpg

http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/9135/imag117ag3.jpg

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/6173/imag128ml8.jpg

this is for Tony_Montana

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/1859/52124047oj7.jpg

^^
:rofl:
Ce taran frate. merge cu limuzina la Carrefour!

http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj115/commodoressc/cj1.jpg

Imi place poza asta. E poate zona misto din Cluj. Poza are si avantajul ca masinile sunt asa de mici ca nu vezi ca sunt multe dacii printre ele. :lol:

Maybe Iulius Mall it looks better, but I can asure you that they don't have stores at same level as Polus Center (Zara, Debenhams, Springfield, New Yorker, Hervis, InterSport, and so on...)

true!
i went in the two of them and this was my impresion, too!

CFR 1907 Cluj the best football team in Romania!!!

http://i29.tinypic.com/30uy62f.jpg


http://i25.tinypic.com/2vwzmef.jpg


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The owner of CFR 1907 Cluj, Arpad Paszkany
http://i26.tinypic.com/308a2d4.jpg

The President of CFR 1907, Dr.Iuliu Muresan
http://i30.tinypic.com/ekgjew.jpg

The coach of CFR 1907 Cluj, Ioan Andone
http://i26.tinypic.com/jqhiya.jpg

CFR 1907 Cluj the best football team in Romania!!!



... after Steaua :lol: :cheers:

... after Steaua :lol: :cheers:

Nice try...:lol::lol:
www.cfrmania.ro, www.cfr1907.ro, www.kvsc1907.ro

Sper sa ne detasam de fotbal pe aceste threaduri pt ca altfel sigur vor fi multi banati printre care si eu .
Moldovean de felul meu , ajuns prin 90 in Cluj "iubesc " la fel de mult moldovenii care tin cu echipele din bucale precum ii iubesc pe clujenii care de vreo 4 ani de zile practica cea mai veche meserie din lume pe culmea unui deal.
Probabil o sa ajunga si Romania ca Germania de ex. (nivel de trai) atunci cand o sa fie in Bacau si Piatra Neamt atatia fani Steaua cati fani Bayern sunt in Bremen sau Hamburg sa zicem(adica 0 barat) . Nu se stie niciodata poate se va intampla si asta.
PS: Totusi trebuie sa fiu atent cu ce imi doresc pt ca din91 incoace de cand a castigat craiova , imi doresc ca o echipa din tara sa castige campionatul si niciodata nu m-am gandit ca nu o sa ma pot bucura de acest lucru care pare din ce in ce mai aproape .

Eu sint stelist de la 8 ani ... dar Clujul merita sa cistige anul acesta. In plus de cind a venit becali ... nu prea mai urmaresc meciurile ... O echipa trebuie sa insemne caracter, dedicatie, respect, trebuie sa te reprezinte ca sa o poti sustine ... nu vreau sa intru in amanunte, dar cind a jucat Romania in '94 (eram in anul I) am picat toate examenele din sesiunea de vara ...si nu-mi va parea rau niciodata. Ce vara de neuitat ... :cheers::cheers::cheers:

http://img391.imageshack.us/img391/8481/c1gl0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Hello everybody!

I will add 2 pictures from beautiful city Cluj-Napoca:
Cluj-Napoca By Night
http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/3163/picturesfromtravelsclujgh3.jpg
Belvedere - Cetatuia Monument
http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/1402/picturesfromtravelsclujap4.jpg

MORE pictures here:
Cluj-Napoca - Romania (http://picturesfromtravels.blogspot.com/2008/03/cluj-napoca-romania.html)

http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/9661/clvn7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Cluj getting a make over :cheers:
http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/2153/14201633yi9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/6001/49774293dm4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)



^^ Update :cheers:
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/4876/cc4is4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/7907/cc1sx9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img354.imageshack.us/img354/4870/cc2so8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/3379/cc3zf7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

^^ I suppose the black lanes will be coloured/marked as bicycle lanes :cheers:


More U/C ...
http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/1070/ccsw5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Random naisssss
http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/7281/clwq6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

May 2008
http://img384.imageshack.us/img384/8323/clyt4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
^^ ZA BeatleS

vreau sa multumesc sincer la "nebunul" pt aceste super fotos :D Le-am save la servici pe comp ca sa imi aduca un zambet pe fata in fiecare zi :D Mi-e dor de Cluj si sper sa vin curand

^^ Inca un zimbet :cheers:
http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/4409/ccyl5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

^ wow :D

Hello everyone! I'll share with you a few photos of Cluj.:cheers:
A view from the Lomb Hill north of the city:
http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/2907/clujlombke5.jpg
The Orthodox Cathedral:
http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/802/hpim5233ma2.jpg
The Franciscan Church, details:
http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/3190/hpim4947dz0.jpg
http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/5699/hpim4946xm5.jpg
View from the towers of the Piarist Church:
http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/6074/hpim5131kt8.jpg

MAN!

You guys have gorgeous cities up north :cheers:

Not saying Bucharest is not nice...but cities like Cluj-Napoca, Timisoara, Sighisoara etc are much nicer because their historical centers have been preserved really well :cheers:

Cluj suburbs …
http://img362.imageshack.us/img362/7226/clujyn7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

... and time-lapse (video) http://www.flickr.com/photos/yossif/2620390164/in/set-72157605891221188/

Hello, i had an opportunity to see the Cluj a little bit. We had no idea how to spell it's name and some problems connected with it ;) quite nice city, i see only few streets and few nice places there. I only don't like those underground passages. Some pictures i made :) :

from bus,nice roof:
http://img373.imageshack.us/img373/2112/dscn6681au8.jpg

we have about 17 the same buses in Cracow, with clime :):
http://img373.imageshack.us/img373/4708/dscn6684cq6.jpg

another beautiful tower (poor i had no opportunity to visit it inside):
http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/9726/dscn6687mz9.jpg

at least, train station :)

http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/622/hpim4070ih9.jpg

and from there to Sibiu :)

2008
http://img363.imageshack.us/img363/4453/cluj11eb8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img363.imageshack.us/img363/5278/cluj22iw1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/2227/cluj33dj0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/6229/cluj44xn5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img363.imageshack.us/img363/1328/cluj55ix2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/5605/cluj66sg7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/8393/cluj77kk9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://i36.tinypic.com/s2bi9t.jpg

^^
http://img388.imageshack.us/img388/2685/clujqe4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/7796/cluj2qr3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Renovated
http://img363.imageshack.us/img363/9783/cluj3pp2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Night life
http://img395.imageshack.us/img395/5483/cluj4vk2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Cluj suburbs …
http://img362.imageshack.us/img362/7226/clujyn7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

... and time-lapse (video) http://www.flickr.com/photos/yossif/2620390164/in/set-72157605891221188/

This is not a suburb. Is a nice area between Gheorgheni and Intre Lacuri hoods.On the other side of this lake is Iulius Mall, and UBB-School of Economics, were I have studied...Iulius Group will build an artificial island with a restaurant in the middle of the lake. Now it looks good, but in 2-3 years will be really awesome...:banana:

^^ :)
http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/9480/00qz1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/1054/11xl5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/6962/22vu5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/247/33qk2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

BTW, monday i ll be in Cluj:)

Nice pics, Nebunul!

pescarush, in which area of the city you will be?

centru- strada Observatorului si club Insomnia.:)

^^ :tyty: fetelelelele :lol::cheers:

:lol:nu, de data asta evadez:lol:

the Orthodox Cathedral:
http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/354/catedralaortodoxadz0.jpg

Interior of the Piarist Church(1724), near the Babes-Bolyai University
http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/2120/bisericapiaristamo5.jpg

The Botanical Garden
http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/1707/gradinabotanica04.jpg
http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/6344/gradinabotanica03.jpg
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http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/4796/gradinabotanica06.jpg
http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/7753/gradinabotanica07.jpg
:cheers:

http://i36.tinypic.com/s2bi9t.jpg

Who's on top of that obelisk? Let me guess, Michael Jackson?

^^:ohno:

^^ To be more exact? No clue, really...

Oh, sorry. I got it: Avram Iancu

^^ To be more exact? No clue, really...

Oh, sorry. I got it: Avram Iancu

he is a pop star (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avram_Iancu)

:lol:

^^ Thanx, I've read the whole entry at Wikipedia about Iancu before your post. It was interesting to read and I got to know many new things from the story of his life. Things I've never heard of or heard in another way.

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/8018/img0995zz2.jpg

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/2039/img0994wb5.jpg

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/7130/img0993bq6.jpg

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/7936/img0989iu8.jpg

Saint George's statue in front of the old reformed church:
http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/6030/hpim4716zj9.jpg

The newly restored building of the Nation Bank:
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/773/img1007ft7.jpg

Babes-Bolyai University - central building:
http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/5386/hpim4708bk1.jpg

"Colegiul Academic/Casa universitarilor"
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/2185/dsc00153by2.jpg

http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/5143/rclujteatrulnationalmi4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/rclujteatrulnationalmi4.jpg/1/w543.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img267/rclujteatrulnationalmi4.jpg/1/)

Phone quality, sorry...
http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/1417/dsc00185uw3.jpg

that s what i m talkin about!

:cheers:
a pity they're still a rarity

http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/5143/rclujteatrulnationalmi4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/rclujteatrulnationalmi4.jpg/1/w543.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img267/rclujteatrulnationalmi4.jpg/1/)

Last week :cheers:
http://img359.imageshack.us/img359/8529/picture172am8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

cum ti s a parut amenajarea Bulevardului Eroilor?

^^ made in RO... idee super; lucrare mediocra spre bine :) La fel si square-ul de la catedrala ortodoxa: idee si materiale faine ... executare made in RO. Si apropos, prea multe cladiri istorice nerenovate (eu ma asteptam la mai mult; macar cit Oradea) + trotuarele si mobilierul urban neatinse. Cabluri aproape ca in Buc. Feeling-ul general: oras din RO cu mostenire arhitecturala superba ... sa nu fiu inteles gresit: super fain orasul dar ma asteptam sa-l (re)gasesc mai apropape de Vest decit de RO. Probabil ca vara arata altfel ...

clasic :cheers:
http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/5808/picture188hk0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/762/picture183lq4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

orasul a fost lasat asa din pacate in perioada cand Funar era primar. nu s a miscat aproape deloc in perioada aia. de cand a venit Boc se simte schimbarea.
BTW, Funar a respins proiectul de restructurare urbanistica elaborat de catre Planwerk (http://www.planwerkcluj.org/ro/planwerk.htm). chiar am participat la sedinta de consiliu local cand a fost prezentat proiectul, iar reactia autoritatilor a fost total iresponsabila, ca sa nu zic mai mult. Funar a stat 5 minute, a scos doua vorbe pe gura dupa care a plecat.:bash:

despre amenajarea Bulevardului Eroilor, executia s a realizat de catre aceeasi firma care a lucrat si la Oradea, unde se stie cat de 'bine' au 'lucrat' baietii.

Pescarush, m-am uitat pe site-ul Planwerk si am citit ce scrie in buletinele periodice de acolo. Poate ne lamuresti ce s-a intamplat cand a fost refuzat proiectul de restructurare urbanistica, pt ca pe site scrie ca propunerile arhitectilor erau primite cu mult entuziasm...

'entuziasm' in sens diplomatic poate. practic n au obtinut nimic(la vremea respectiva). in schimb au obtinut alte contracte in Romania, avand ca exemplu studiile facute in Cluj(care erau o premiera din punct de vedere al tratarii urbanistice cat si al calitatii abordarii analizelor si a redactarii proiectului) si bineinteles recunoastere nationala.
in rest, dedesubturile acestei actiuni imi sunt straine si nu mi permit sa mi dau cu presupusul.

Super
http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/4576/picture174io1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

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http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/8168/picture180eq8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
^^ average. Iulius mall a bit better IMO ... actually this ^^ is not really a mall ... it's more like a shopping center

a building on Eroilor Avenue, before:

http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/3336/centrulclujului18ht0.jpg

and after renovation(with the newly installed statue :cheers:):

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/6276/dsc00498pm1.jpg

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/5167/dsc00497qm1.jpg

details:

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/8784/manax6.jpg
^^
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/5296/goldmanmp0.jpg

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/8648/womanoi6.jpg
^^
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/9335/goldwomantd1.jpg

Bling-bling!

Oare chiar trebuiau modificate pozele? Daca tot te-ai apucat puteai sa scoti si firele de curent. :)
Arata mult mai bine "detaliile" vopsite in aceasi culoare.

nu stiu de ce zici ca le-am modificat. detaliile alea chiar sunt aurite in realitate, daca la ele te referi.

Ma refeream la partea laterala a cladirii, am crezut ca nu a fost renovata inca si ai pus cer in loc de cladire. In cazul in care nu sti la ce ma refer inseamna ca asa le-ai luat.

ma rog, calitatea nu e cea mai buna, le-am facut cu telefonul:nuts:

Ma refer la partea laterala a cladirii (cea cu rosu) - lipseste
http://img391.imageshack.us/img391/2027/cluj1ik4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img391.imageshack.us/img391/cluj1ik4.jpg/1/w600.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img391/cluj1ik4.jpg/1/)

Nu lipseste. Acopera tot coltul fotografiei si, pe monitorul meu, e mai deschisa la culoare si mai uniforma decat cerul. :)

a building on Eroilor Avenue, before:


http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/5167/dsc00497qm1.jpg




In dreapta hornului se vede foarte bine diferenta intre calcanul cladirii si cer

^^:cheers:

:lol: chiar nu ii vedeam rostul modificarii, de aceea am intrebat. Mersi

Late november evening picture of Eroilor street, it looks really nice but there are some things that could have been better. I give it a good 9 ;)
http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/3388/dsc07354vi3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/dsc07354vi3.jpg/1/w800.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img178/dsc07354vi3.jpg/1/)

One of my favourite Cluj pictures, taken by a very talented amateur photographer :banana::banana::banana: The Cathedral looks beautiful, the Heroes' Monument looks really nice too, but what I like the most about this picture, like any good Romanian, is the bunch of flowers there :lol::lol::lol:.
http://img376.imageshack.us/img376/6633/dsc05606tg1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img376.imageshack.us/img376/dsc05606tg1.jpg/1/w800.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img376/dsc05606tg1.jpg/1/)

Maybe I'll post more Cluj pictures some other time but I first have to post a lot of pictures on the Galati picture thread. Sper ca vorbitorii de romana au inteles tot ce am scris pana acum. Noroc!:cheers:

cum ti s a parut amenajarea Bulevardului Eroilor?

Found more pictures :cheers:

http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/7572/dscn0899kg9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/8485/dscn0916gg6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Nice one :lol::cheers:
http://img374.imageshack.us/img374/7818/dscn0902rf6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

In dreapta hornului se vede foarte bine diferenta intre calcanul cladirii si cer

+ parabolica :nuts:

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mOz3KJ-hnqE

First post here.
http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/3046/44ca0cb523676dsc01283covo5.jpg (http://www.imagehosting.com/)
http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/7220/44ca10f21c923dsc01280coeq1.jpg (http://www.imagehosting.com/)
http://i38.tinypic.com/2lsd6v6.jpg
http://i36.tinypic.com/35n3ptc.jpg
http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/8826/451e713004273dscf0061pq3.jpg (http://www.imagehosting.com/)
Diesel Cafe
http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/1348/800pxdiesecafeclujnapocvi2.jpg (http://www.imagehosting.com/)
The New York Palace
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/5456/800pxkolozsvrnewyorkpalag4.jpg (http://www.imagehosting.com/)
Matei Corvin Alley
http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/8488/800pxmateicorvinalleybt1.jpg (http://www.imagehosting.com/)
Image from Cluj Napoca's Bothanical Garden
http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/8799/800pxstatuiegradinabotags8.jpg (http://www.imagehosting.com/)
The Banffi Castle outside Cluj
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/6793/castelulbanffifaraborduns7.jpg (http://www.imagehosting.com/)
http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/627/imgp0820om2.jpg (http://www.imagehosting.com/)

And the 2 stadiums:
CFR's improved arena...
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/5089/dsc0805pg5.jpg (http://www.imagehosting.com/)
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/5290/dscf5539us7kn3.jpg (http://www.imagehosting.com/)
http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/6128/2ppyiqrel9.jpg (http://www.imagehosting.com/)
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/1466/dsc0064resize10pe5.jpg (http://www.imagehosting.com/)

...and Universitatea's old...
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/2823/moina2tu8.jpg (http://www.imagehosting.com/)

...and future stadium:
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/7513/picture5py9.jpg (http://www.imagehosting.com/)

^^ Welcome! :cheers:

Care-i treba cu Continentalu' ... se cam degradeaza. Acu' 2 sapt era "parasit". Am inteles ca l-a cumparat un "investitor" si il tine gol de ani buni ... ambitie?! :nuts:
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/5456/800pxkolozsvrnewyorkpalag4.jpg (http://www.imagehosting.com/)

^^ Welcome! :cheers:

Care-i treba cu Continentalu' ... se cam degradeaza. Acu' 2 sapt era "parasit". Am inteles ca l-a cumparat un "investitor" si il tine gol de ani buni ... ambitie?! :nuts:

Thanks!:D

Cica vor sa-l transforme in galerii comerciale:dunno::bash:Oricum, chiar nu am observat daca se lucreaza la el, probabil ca nu.
http://www.clujeanul.ro/cluj/galeriile-continental-isi-cauta-constructorul-2465511

Welcome! Cheers for the pics!

Care-i treba cu Continentalu' ... se cam degradeaza. Acu' 2 sapt era "parasit". Am inteles ca l-a cumparat un "investitor" si il tine gol de ani buni ... ambitie?!

What about the Banffi Castle?:nuts:

Remember to check this: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=616060

uite aici cum e cu continentalul....
http://ziuadecj.ro/action/article?ID=13589
http://ziuadecj.ro/action/article?ID=19620

"alex zebe", vezi ca este un thread cu castele din romania unde mai sunt poze cu castelul banffy, poate ar sta mai bine acolo decat in threadul cu clujul:)

and something about the Banffy Castle:
http://www.heritagetraining-banffycastle.org/index.php?p=21

@alex_zebe am gasit si o poza ...
btw the "problem” I had in Cluj when I wanted to take pictures wasn't the architecture; but what surrounds it - cables, old asphalt pavements, old style kiosks, undecorated facades etc


km zero
http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/8337/centruqc4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

rectorat Universitatea Tehnica:

http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/1294/beforeob1.jpg

^^

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/7640/afterci3.jpg

@alex_zebe am gasit si o poza ...


km zero
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de acord. Poate acum, cu Boc premier, o sa vina mai multi bani spre Cluj, si, mai ales, sa fie gestionati cum trebuie.
Si totusi:
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^^ au terminat renovarea la Matei Corvin, sau e mai veche poza?!

^^ au terminat renovarea la Matei Corvin, sau e mai veche poza?!

Ii mai veche, 2-3 ani. Si cu renovarea asta, era vorba ca se implica guvernul ungar, insa, din ce am vazut, nu mai lucreaza nimeni pe acolo de foarte mult timp.

Si o poza:
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^^ au terminat renovarea la Matei Corvin, sau e mai veche poza?!
oioi, stai ca abia la primavara o incep! cica in ianuarie fac licitatia :ohno:

some renovation works:

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Merry Christmas!:)

Avram Iancu Square, western front with the new Beyfin Hotel

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Calvary Church, the oldest church in Cluj, built somewhere around 1060-1095.
First time mentioned in the IXth century as "Monasterium Beatae Mariae de Clus.
From its title "Monasterium" comes the name of the area "Manastur".

shame on me, i didn t know about this church! very good pictures!
and welcome on SSC, BTW

impressive...really nice cluj rocks !

Thanks!
Good to be here.

2 simboluri ale Clujului: Biserica Sf. Mihail si "U" Cluj
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Piata Unirii, "U" Cluj
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Strada Napoca, "U" Cluj
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Horea Street:

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Cetatuia (small Vauban - style fortification):

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New wing of the Hungarian Theatre:

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Emil Isac Street

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Muzeum Square:

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Babes-Bolyai University - central building

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Am trecut de curand prin zona asta si am fost surprins ca e lasata in paragina (probabil in litigiu). IMO e un potential enorm pentru un restaurant, cafenea, terasa etc ... Interioul are niste arcade si coloane foarte faine

Misto grffitiul...:bash:

Am trecut de curand prin zona asta si am fost surprins ca e lasata in paragina (probabil in litigiu). IMO e un potential enorm pentru un restaurant, cafenea, terasa etc ... Interioul are niste arcade si coloane foarte faine

Lasata in paragina ca tot dealul cetatuii, si ca parcul central de alaturi... din pacate vad ca municipalitatea nu e prea preocupata de parcurile orasului, foarte putine de altfel. Intr-adevar zona are mare potential si ar fi super daca ar amenaja mai multe alei si ar intretine vegetatia. Plus ca ar putea extinde parcul pe zona din deal care acum e afectata de alunecari de teren(spre vest).

Ai spus ca ai fost inauntru. Ce e pe acolo si cum ai intrat?

Nu am intrat la etaj. Dar la parter arata ca o cladirire parasita unde se aduna boschetarii. Mi-au placut mult coloanele de piatra (cred) si arcadele gotice placate (cred) cu caramida ornamentala pozitionate simetric, de-o parte si de alta, culoarului principal de trecere. Si zabovind putin in interior, mi-am inchipuit cam ce fain ar arata o cafenea cu separeuri delimitate undeva intre sau de coloanele mentionate :cheers:

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A fost recent renovat,cred ca acum va gazdui ceva expozitii..are cineva vreun update de la fata locului?Fotografia e din vara lui 2008

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A fost recent renovat,cred ca acum va gazdui ceva expozitii..are cineva vreun update de la fata locului?Fotografia e din vara lui 2008

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Poza e din noiembrie. Nu cred ca s-a mai lucrat de atunci.

Am observat ca inainte de inceperea lucrarilor turnul a avea la ferestre un fel de "obloane" (nu-i cuvantul potrivit, altul nu-mi vine) de lemn cu niste "balamale" tipic medievale, ca si pe usa lui sau ca la casa Matei. Le-au scos, iar in poza mea nu se vad. Sper ca le reconditioneaza si le pun la loc, ar fi o mare prostie sa nu le mai puna... :ohno:Am si o poza, sa vedeti la ce ma refer.

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Poza e din noiembrie. Nu cred ca s-a mai lucrat de atunci.Sper ca tamplaria aia nu e din PVC cu termopan.

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Poza e din noiembrie. Nu cred ca s-a mai lucrat de atunci.

Am observat ca inainte de inceperea lucrarilor turnul a avea la ferestre un fel de "obloane" (nu-i cuvantul potrivit, altul nu-mi vine) de lemn cu niste "balamale" tipic medievale, ca si pe usa lui sau ca la casa Matei. Le-au scos, iar in poza mea nu se vad. Sper ca le reconditioneaza si le pun la loc, ar fi o mare prostie sa nu le mai puna... :ohno:Am si o poza, sa vedeti la ce ma refer.

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Ce urasc cablurile la vedere si spuma in surplus cu care s-a fixat tamplaria.Urasc aceste neglijente(mai ales acele benzi de plastic care se dezlipesc de pe tamplarie,e plina Romania de asemenea "detalii")

Sper ca tamplaria aia nu e din PVC cu termopan.

Ba da:bash:.Nici acoperisul nu se prea potriveste cu ce ar trebui sa fie Bastionul...:weird::down:

Nu e pvc, e lemn natural, iar spuma sunt sigur ca nu se va mai vedea la sfarsit. Ce sa-i facem, trebuiau puse geamuri... oricum le-au facut cum erau alea vechi, totul e sa puna si "obloanele" de care vorbeam mai sus si cred ca o sa arate bine.

Ba da:bash:.Nici acoperisul nu se prea potriveste cu ce ar trebui sa fie Bastionul...:weird::down:

De ce sa nu se potriveasca? Tigla? E tip solzi, cum era aia veche. Eu nu cred ca e o problema. Aia de dinainte nu cred ca se mai putea numi tigla.... O sa capete un aspect mai natural pe masura ce trece timpul, am vazut asta cand faceam poze la muzeul de arta. Si acolo au schimbat tigla acum cativa ani si deja arata mai bine. :banana:

class_aladin are perfecta dreptate. Nu are ce cauta spuma la bastion, "balamale" trebuiesc musai reconditionate, masura la geamuri a fost luata prost, curbura deschiderii de sus nu se mai regaseste in forma noului geam (au bagat spuma), la aceiasi deschidere baza de piatra nu e refacuta complet (au bagat spuma). Spune multe despre arhitectul care a receptionat si supervizat lucrarea: un cretin :weird:
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De ce sa nu se potriveasca? Tigla? E tip solzi, cum era aia veche. Eu nu cred ca e o problema. Aia de dinainte nu cred ca se mai putea numi tigla.... O sa capete un aspect mai natural pe masura ce trece timpul, am vazut asta cand faceam poze la muzeul de arta. Si acolo au schimbat tigla acum cativa ani si deja arata mai bine. :banana:

Sper sa ai dreptate.:)
Oricum, in momentul asta nu-mi place deloc cum arata cu geamurile si cu tigla noi.

Ma rog, o sa vedem cum o sa arate pana la urma. Eu imi mentin optimismul; si poate mai dau o tura pe acolo zilele urmatoare.:)

Edit: acuma observ si eu problemele la geamuri de care zicea nebunul.:ohno:
Mult i-ar fi costat sa le faca ca lumea...:bash:

Ma rog, o sa vedem cum o sa arate pana la urma. Eu imi mentin optimismul; si poate mai dau o tura pe acolo zilele urmatoare.:)

Edit: acuma observ si eu problemele la geamuri de care zicea nebunul.:ohno:
Mult i-ar fi costat sa le faca ca lumea...:bash:

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Sa zicem ca nu ar fi prea greu sa pastreze acele obloane(slefuite,lacuite),dar ar fi extraordinar daca si zidul de aparare ar fi accesibil turistilor(locul sa fie oricum pazit devreme ce s-a investit in reabilitarea acestui obiectiv),si in orice caz sa dispara acel cablu de alimentare cu curent electric!!:bash:

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Sunt curios cum o fi aratand pietonalul in februarie:)

si inca o imagine bonus,ca sa ne mai incalzim putin
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si inca o imagine bonus,ca sa ne mai incalzim putin
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^^ imi plac foarte mult dalele si mobilierul urban plus calitatea ridicata a lucrarii:cheers:

A few pictures from Gherla.

Gherla is a town about 40 km NE of Cluj and has a population of 22 000. In the XVIII-th century it was inhabited by a large number of armenians and was called Armenopolis. The town center is full of baroque houses built by them and is dominated by the Armenian-Catholic Church which i've read that hosts a painting by Peter Paul Rubens. Unfourtunately it was closed when I was there so I couln't visit it.

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A fost recent renovat,cred ca acum va gazdui ceva expozitii..are cineva vreun update de la fata locului?Fotografia e din vara lui 2008

update:

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Vad ca au reinceput lucrarile. Au finisat pe langa geamuri. Obloane tot nu vad...

update:

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Vad ca au reinceput lucrarile. Au finisat pe langa geamuri. Obloane tot nu vad...

Asa mai merge..Deasupra intrarii era o stema rotunda cioplita in piatra..vad ca acum lipseste.Stiti ceva desprea asta?

A few pictures from Gherla.

Gherla is a town about 40 km NE of Cluj and has a population of 22 000. In the XVIII-th century it was inhabited by a large number of armenians and was called Armenopolis. The town center is full of baroque houses built by them and is dominated by the Armenian-Catholic Church which i've read that hosts a painting by Peter Paul Rubens. Unfourtunately it was closed when I was there so I couln't visit it.

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Se remarca amprenta barocului vienez,prin ancadramentele ferestrelor si a cariatidelor portalului Muzeului din Gherla,cioplite in piatra.Imi aminteste de poarta a IV-a din Cetatea Alba Iulia

Asa mai merge..Deasupra intrarii era o stema rotunda cioplita in piatra..vad ca acum lipseste.Stiti ceva desprea asta?
Am remarcat de mai demult piatra rotunda de deasupra usii, dar nu a fost vreo stema pe ea, nu in ultimii ani, cel putin. Era asa si inainte de inceperea renovarii. In schimb, pe latura din spatele statuii lui Baba Novac, mai sus este un blazon cu initialele lui Gabriel Bethlen care nu era restaurat ultima data cand m-am uitat. Poate totusi... e pacat, se vedea ca fusese colorat odata, dar s-a sters aproape de tot vopseaua.
Daca scotocesc, gasesc si o poza. Diseara! :)

Am remarcat de mai demult piatra rotunda de deasupra usii, dar nu a fost vreo stema pe ea, nu in ultimii ani, cel putin. Era asa si inainte de inceperea renovarii. In schimb, pe latura din spatele statuii lui Baba Novac, mai sus este un blazon cu initialele lui Gabriel Bethlen care nu era restaurat ultima data cand m-am uitat. Poate totusi... e pacat, se vedea ca fusese colorat odata, dar s-a sters aproape de tot vopseaua.
Daca scotocesc, gasesc si o poza. Diseara! :)

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Cartierul Buna Ziua

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Cartierul Andrei Muresanu

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The new statue of the catholic priest Marton Aron, In Unirii Square

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Museum square otherwise known as Carolina square after the name of Carolina Augusta.

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Musem Square, Piata Muzeului, Muzeum Ter
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Ceva pe cat de vechi, pe atat de interesant:
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by Eduard Despinoiu.
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clujeanul.ro
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The Psychology Institute, a villa which contains architectural elements from a renaissance house that stood in Unirii Square:

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Some pretty houses:):

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Needs some landscaping.

Indeed it does.:nuts:

clujeanul.ro:

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A few photos from Dej:

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The old part of the Grigorescu neighborhood:

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Ceea ce-mi place la primele 2 poze e modul in care au integrat cladiri noi intr-un ansamblu de cladiri istorice.Asta inseamna ca aveti un plan de urbanism bine pus la punct,si se tine la cont de arhitectura,marime,culori,etc.
Bravo,celelalte orase ar trebui sa ia exemplu de la voi.

PUG bine pus la punct... din ce vad prin oras, ma indoiesc ca avem, dar e in lucru unul nou. Astea sunt cazuri fericite. Probabil ca s-au respectat cu strictete normele pentru ca se afla in perimetrul protejat din centrul vechi.

Ma zgarie pe retina dea dreptul cablurile care atarna in tot orasul. Cred ca poti numara pe degetele de la o mana strazile in care poti fotografia o cladire fara sa prinzi in cadru cate un manunchi de fibre!

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Daca eram in Bucuresti, in locul cladirii aleia bine incadrate ar fii fost un zgarie nor de sticla de vreo 15 etaje probabil....

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Daca eram in Bucuresti, in locul cladirii aleia bine incadrate ar fii fost un zgarie nor de sticla de vreo 15 etaje probabil....

^^ Cladirea respectiva e chiar un bloc de vreo 8 etaje, doar fatada(care e nou construita) e ceva mai in armonie cu cladirile invecinate. Totusi merita mentionat ca blocul respectiv e din epoca de aur.

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Este pacat ca acea cladire cu fatada din sticla strica toata atmosfera istorica a celorlalte cladiri cu arhitectura culturala.

Oare cand o sa-si recastige romanii valorile? In toata Europa, numai in Romania au fost distruse cladirile istorice, ori direct prin demolare, ori prin construirea chiar langa ele a unor cladiri fara nici o valoare arhitecturala ce strica toata atmosfera de istorie.

Urbanism al centrului istoric nu inseamna construirea in c.istoric a unor cladiri din sticla sau blocuri, inseamna ce e in Sibiu sau Sighisoara, adica peste tot pe unde te uiti sa vezi doar cladiri istorice, astfel te vei simti ca si in acele timpuri vechi.

Doar uitati-va pe threadurile celorlalte tari din Europa, inclusiv tot estul Europei, strainii posteaza foarte des si admira acele cladiri, aici pe cele romanesti sunt numai romanii postand blocuri comuniste depresive ori cate o cladire istorica care neaparat trebuie sa fie vecina cu o cladire din sticla sau blocuri.

Am scris acest mesaj pt ca nu mai suport incultura romanilor, este ceva de necrezut, nu degeaba ne zic straiinii tigani, numai tiganii isi distrug cultura, acum intelege-ti de ce straini ne zic tigani? Ne zic pe buna dreptate, asta este , Romania e o tara comunisto-manelista, macar daca suntem saraci, sa fie o saracie curata, nu cocina cu tiganisme...

O sa evacuez Romania cu prima ocazie, nu mai suport aici. :ohno:

numai tiganii isi distrug cultura

Tiganii n-au avut vreodata cultura ca sa poata sa si-o distruga.
In niciun caz nu suntem numiti tigani din motivul dat de tine.

ideea este ca asemenea cladiri am vazut si prin afara in centrele istorice...
cel putin in poza asta pare ca se impaca bine cu cladirile din jur si arata european....
mai era parca o cladire de birouri facuta pe colt tot la cluj .....si aia parca nu era chiar asa de urata avand in vedere ca avea exact aceeasi inaltime cu celelalte din jur si o fatada oarecum interesanta.

Astea sunt cazuri pe care rar le vezi in Bucuresti....

Tiganii n-au avut vreodata cultura ca sa poata sa si-o distruga.
In niciun caz nu suntem numiti tigani din motivul dat de tine.

Sti f bine ce am vrut sa zic, m-am exprimat gresit pt ca eram enervat cand am scris mesajul ala.

Corect este: Numai tigani nu au cultura, iar acum mai nou de cateva decenii, numai tiganii si romanii nu au cultura, punct.

Cand vine un strain in Romania zice: Aici e Europa??? Nu se poate... unde sunt cladirile istorice, cultura?? Iar cineva ii sopteste: Aici e Romania, asta explica tot, astia sunt tigani.

Peste tot in toate orasele europene in afara Romaniei ei au ca simbol centrul istoric, cand dau imagini la TV vezi numai cultura, in Romania vezi niste uratenii de blocuri comuniste,palatul parlamentului sau vile maneliste.

Cladirile istorice din Transilvania nu sunt ale noastre, sunt ale bozgorilor si nemtilor.

Intradevar, cei care nu au vizitat Romania sa vada ca nu avem cultura ne zic tigani pt ca romanii ce au plecat acolo fura, insa cei care stiu cum arata Romania ne zic tigani si cu mai mare ardoare din 2 motive: 0 cultura, furatul.

Si ce e mai rau ,daca intrebi romanii de istoria lor o sa zica ca sunt romani(imperiul roman). Sa va zic ceva, in Serbia de azi s-au nascut 18 imparati romani si au trait acolo mi de ani nu 140 de ani ca la noi iar sarbi nu zic niciodata ca sunt romani, ci sarbi, asta ma doare si mai tare.

Asta este, macar votati-l la presedentie pe ala de la casa regala,radu, si ala e un actor dar macar stie sa aprecieze cultura si va da de pamant cu aia care au distrus-o.

ideea este ca asemenea cladiri am vazut si prin afara in centrele istorice...
cel putin in poza asta pare ca se impaca bine cu cladirile din jur si arata european....
mai era parca o cladire de birouri facuta pe colt tot la cluj .....si aia parca nu era chiar asa de urata avand in vedere ca avea exact aceeasi inaltime cu celelalte din jur si o fatada oarecum interesanta.

Astea sunt cazuri pe care rar le vezi in Bucuresti....

Poate ioropean, nu o sa vezi cladiri din sticla sau blocuri in centrurile istorice din Europa.

Si in Bucuresti ce sa mai fie, sunt 99% blocuri comuniste, restu cladiri din sticla, si cateva cladiri istorice darapanate si locuite de tigani in mizerie de nedescris.

Cand vine un strain in Romania zice: Aici e Europa??? Nu se poate... unde sunt cladirile istorice, cultura?? Iar cineva ii sopteste: Aici e Romania, asta explica tot, astia sunt tigani.
De fapt ei vin gandind asta,si sunt surprinsi in mod placut de ce vad.


Intradevar, cei care nu au vizitat Romania sa vada ca nu avem cultura ne zic tigani pt ca romanii ce au plecat acolo fura, insa cei care stiu cum arata Romania ne zic tigani si cu mai mare ardoare din 2 motive: 0 cultura, furatul.
In cele mai dese cazuri confunda "roma" cu Romania,de-asta zic ca suntem tigani,din cauza nenorocitilor din consiliul europei care a considerat in urma cu 3 decenii ca "tigan" e un cuvant urat,si le-a dat denumirea lor germana,de "roma".
Cei mai multi idioti europeni habar n-au cum arata un tigan,de unde-au venit,sau ce istorie au,si de-asta avem parte de reputatia asta in general,nu fac deosebirea intre noi si ei pentru o simpla confuzie de nume.

Vorbesti aiurea in general,faci exact ca strainii de care pomeneam,iar cu afirmatia asta te-ai facut de ras.Nu e vina noastra ca avem blocuri comuniste.Si in Bucuresti ce sa mai fie, sunt 99% blocuri comuniste, restu cladiri din sticla, si cateva cladiri istorice darapanate si locuite de tigani in mizerie de nedescris.

In ce mod placut sunt surprinsi? Cand vin in sud si est iti spun eu ca sunt si mai scarbiti fata de ce credeau inainte de a veni.

Numai de Transivania sunt extrem de placut surprinsi, dar ce am zis eu pana acum? Cultura din Transilvania e bozgora si germana NU romaneasca, romaneasca e stilul Brancovenesc, click aici pt poza1 (http://i588.photobucket.com/albums/ss323/nightwolf9SS/ok_8237.jpg),poza2 (http://i588.photobucket.com/albums/ss323/nightwolf9SS/palatul-bancii_mare.jpg),poza3 (http://www.slatinaforum.ro/members/dat-draque-albums-imagini-din-slatina-picture1-imaginea-1.jpg), unul dintre cele mai apreciate stiluri, insa majoritatea cladirilor au fost distruse.

Nu va mai lega-ti de straini pt ca noi nu suntem straini, suntem romani!!

Nu doar confuzia aia de nume(rom) e de vina, faptul ca romanii fura si 0 cultura romanesca (nu bozgora sau germana din Transilvania) ramasa.

Este total vina noastra pt faptul ca au fost distruse cladirile istorice si peste construite blocuri comuniste, uita-te de ex in Transilvania, acolo nu au ucis cultura in halul ca sudul si estul, la fel in tot estul Europei care a fost sub acelasi regim comunist ca si noi.

Nu va mai eschiva-ti si da-ti vina pe alti, noi suntem de vina pt ca am devenit tigani!! Uita-te in jur, dar nu e nevoie sa te uiti, doar asculta... ce auzi...manele!!!!!

Nightwolf, deprimanta viziune mai ai...:(
Nu suntem singurii care ne-am umplut de blocuri comuniste! Pana si in vest prin anii 60-70 s-au construit blocuri in zonele istorice. Pacat ca nu-ti pot da acum un exemplu, dar asa e.
Ma enerveaza complexul asta de inforioritate pe care il au multi romani! "Noi suntem cei mai inculti, cei mai lenesi, avem o tara urata....sa emigram!". Dintotdeauna au fost in Europa popoare mai mult sau mai putin dezvoltate. Bun, noi am fost mai putin avansati. Avem probabil o vina (ca neam, nu individual), dar cred ca ne-a dezavantajat si pozitia geografica, in locul de intalnire al marilor imperii - nu degeaba balcanilor li se zice si "butoiul de pulbere al europei". In sec. XX a venit comunismul si astfel am ajuns asa cum suntem. Dar mai sunt si altii in aceeasi oala cu noi. Oricum, lucrurile merg acum spre bine si cred ca ar avansa mai repede daca cei care se considera superiori sau mai civilizati ca si conationalii lor ar avea si simtul civic si patriotic sa stea aici, sa incerce sa faca din tara asta un loc mai bun, nu sa plece in strainatate.:ohno:

Acum, ca sa revenim la oile noastre, Nightwolf, tot nu-mi dau seama care e cladirea "cu fatada de sticla" de care vorbesti.

Ce va tot plangeti,uitati si luati aminte la exemple reusite de integrare a cladirilor cu arhitectura postmodernista in sit protejat:

Brno-Piata libertatii

http://www.flickr.com/photos/dubra/278941781/sizes/l/in/photostream/
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Sti f bine ce am vrut sa zic, m-am exprimat gresit pt ca eram enervat cand am scris mesajul ala.

Corect este: Numai tigani nu au cultura, iar acum mai nou de cateva decenii, numai tiganii si romanii nu au cultura, punct.

Cand vine un strain in Romania zice: Aici e Europa??? Nu se poate... unde sunt cladirile istorice, cultura?? Iar cineva ii sopteste: Aici e Romania, asta explica tot, astia sunt tigani.

Peste tot in toate orasele europene in afara Romaniei ei au ca simbol centrul istoric, cand dau imagini la TV vezi numai cultura, in Romania vezi niste uratenii de blocuri comuniste,palatul parlamentului sau vile maneliste.

Cladirile istorice din Transilvania nu sunt ale noastre, sunt ale bozgorilor si nemtilor.

Intradevar, cei care nu au vizitat Romania sa vada ca nu avem cultura ne zic tigani pt ca romanii ce au plecat acolo fura, insa cei care stiu cum arata Romania ne zic tigani si cu mai mare ardoare din 2 motive: 0 cultura, furatul.

Si ce e mai rau ,daca intrebi romanii de istoria lor o sa zica ca sunt romani(imperiul roman). Sa va zic ceva, in Serbia de azi s-au nascut 18 imparati romani si au trait acolo mi de ani nu 140 de ani ca la noi iar sarbi nu zic niciodata ca sunt romani, ci sarbi, asta ma doare si mai tare.

Asta este, macar votati-l la presedentie pe ala de la casa regala,radu, si ala e un actor dar macar stie sa aprecieze cultura si va da de pamant cu aia care au distrus-o.



Poate ioropean, nu o sa vezi cladiri din sticla sau blocuri in centrurile istorice din Europa.

Si in Bucuresti ce sa mai fie, sunt 99% blocuri comuniste, restu cladiri din sticla, si cateva cladiri istorice darapanate si locuite de tigani in mizerie de nedescris.

Bai tu cred ca n-ai pus piciorul delocprin Bucuresti .E adevarat ca exista zone dense de cartiere dormitor de pe vremea lui Ceausescu,dar sa zici ca mai sunt cateva cladri istorice...sunt mii de hectare cu cladiri istorice,unele in stare foarte buna ,altele mai putin.E adevarat ca se darama mult,ca sunt cladiri istorice in stare avansata de degradare,dar eu te invit sa vizitezi Bucurestiul la pas,si apoi iti vei schimba parerea.

In ce mod placut sunt surprinsi? Cand vin in sud si est iti spun eu ca sunt si mai scarbiti fata de ce credeau inainte de a veni.

Numai de Transivania sunt extrem de placut surprinsi, dar ce am zis eu pana acum? Cultura din Transilvania e bozgora si germana NU romaneasca, romaneasca e stilul Brancovenesc, click aici pt poza1 (http://i588.photobucket.com/albums/ss323/nightwolf9SS/ok_8237.jpg),poza2 (http://i588.photobucket.com/albums/ss323/nightwolf9SS/palatul-bancii_mare.jpg),poza3 (http://www.slatinaforum.ro/members/dat-draque-albums-imagini-din-slatina-picture1-imaginea-1.jpg), unul dintre cele mai apreciate stiluri, insa majoritatea cladirilor au fost distruse.

Nu va mai lega-ti de straini pt ca noi nu suntem straini, suntem romani!!

Nu doar confuzia aia de nume(rom) e de vina, faptul ca romanii fura si 0 cultura romanesca (nu bozgora sau germana din Transilvania) ramasa.

Este total vina noastra pt faptul ca au fost distruse cladirile istorice si peste construite blocuri comuniste, uita-te de ex in Transilvania, acolo nu au ucis cultura in halul ca sudul si estul, la fel in tot estul Europei care a fost sub acelasi regim comunist ca si noi.

Nu va mai eschiva-ti si da-ti vina pe alti, noi suntem de vina pt ca am devenit tigani!! Uita-te in jur, dar nu e nevoie sa te uiti, doar asculta... ce auzi...manele!!!!!

Auzi...tot ce s-a construit in Transilvania s-a construit doar cu mesteri Unguri si Sasi?Or fi fost ei arhitectii..dar gandeste te si cine le-a construit...existau printre ei si mesteri romani,iti garantez asta.
In al doilea rand nu am devenit tigani....la un anumit nivel s-a produs un amestec de culturi,dar asta e Romania,o jonctiune intre Occident si Orient...
Aici in sud sunt tigani care lucreaza in constructii o groaza...(vezi BNR restaurat de muncitori tigani...,si multe multe altele...)

Poate ioropean, nu o sa vezi cladiri din sticla sau blocuri in centrurile istorice din Europa.
Am vazut in centrul istoric al orasului Viena mai multe cladiri de sticla in armonie cu cele vechi.

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Si eu am ramas surprins de contrast, cand am fost acolo... :uh:

Am vazut in centrul istoric al orasului Viena mai multe cladiri de sticla in armonie cu cele vechi.

^^Hass House ti se pare integrata? Mie sincer nu imi prea place.

Nu va mai legati de exemplele concrete care le da Nightwolf, e vorba de majoritatea romanilor care sunt cum sunt si de imaginea de ansamblu a tarii. Ma doare undeva cum sunt impresionati strainii care vin aici, in schimb bag mana in foc ca toti romanii care merg in vest vor fi cu siguranta impresionati in mod placut de ceea ce vor vedea - de la cladiri, asfalt, civilizatie si alte "amanunte" pe care noi le ignoram.

PS 1 Pentru ca o cladire sa se integreze in sit, nu e deajuns sa aiba aceasi inaltime cu celelalte cladiri, asta e doar unul dintre multele aspecte de care trebui tinut cont

PS 2 Indiferent cate cladiri istorice mai are sau nu Bucurestiul, e un oras compromis dpdv urbanistic. Nu il vad nici intr-o suta de ani sa devina un oras ok din punctul asta de vedere, plus ca multi au senzatia ca boomul economic va tine o vesnicie si toate "gaurile" vor fi astupate cu noi cladiri inalte si frumoase:nuts:

Mama ce v-ati incins pe aici...:gunz:

Ce va tot plangeti,uitati si luati aminte la exemple reusite de integrare a cladirilor cu arhitectura postmodernista in sit protejat:

Brno-Piata libertatii

http://www.flickr.com/photos/dubra/278941781/sizes/l/in/photostream/
http://static.panoramio.com/photos/original/2240142.jpg


mie mi se par mai bine integrate cele din cluj decat in bratislava sau chiar viena .....cel putin in poze.
In ceea ce priveste Bucurestiul, eu l-am parcurs de multe ori la pas si sunt foarte foarte multe cladiri istorice frumoase nepuse in valoare Prin Spate pe la Unirii , in zona Grivitei , Gara de N , zona Cismigiu etc.... Daca toate aceste cladiri ar fii renovate si luminate frumos seara ( ceva de genul Palatul Justitei ) plus mai multe stradute inchise si transforamate in pietonale ai avea impresia de un centru istoric foarte mare...

La imaginea aia NE-europeana a Romaniei contribuie si firele acelea absolut enervante care atarna pe toti stalpii din orasele patriei.
Apropo care e situatia prin Cluj....au de gand sa le ingroape sau ceva? Ca in Bucuresti am vazut ca nu am au nicio intentie....

^^ In Bucuresti se tot "creeaza infrastructura" din cate am observat, mai greu cu ingropatul. Nu ma leg de calitatea lucrarilor, o simpla poza ar fi trebuit sa fac si voi sa spamati smiley-uri care vomita.

Este in lucru o retea subterana de fibra optica. Cam asta e stadiul in care se afla:
http://www.clujfo.ro/en/9/project-status.html
Mai e mult pana o termina, dar bine macar ca au inceput.

View from Hoia Hill. Up-close, Grigorescu neighborhood, further away Manastur, far way, to the left, Zorilor neighborhood.

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Cateva imagini de pe citynews.ro, poze facute din turnul bisericii Sf. Mihail.

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^^Ar trebui renovat si geamanul cladirii de vizavi.

^^Din cate stiu eu, cladirea nerenovata este în proces de retrocedare, fapt care impiedica municipalitatea sa investeasca in ea sau sa o vanda.

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Imi place cum se incadreaza catedrala pe fundal. Din unghiul potrivit se vede aproape perfect central raportat la portiunea simetrica a strazii.

Very nice city, Cluj Napoca!
This city is not very famous in the European tourist context.

Perhaps, because there is not a strong politics of promotion?

Very nice city, Cluj Napoca!
This city is not very famous in the European tourist context.

Perhaps, because there is not a strong politics of promotion?

Thanks for your kind words.
The city has more of an economical role for the region than a touristic one and you're right, it wasn't promoted much internationally.

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^^ Arata super frumos Clujul. Mie din poze pietonalul ala nou de pe Eroilor mi se pare ok chiar european ( pavajul,bordura , stalpisorii de delimitare , parcarea cu altfel de pavaj decat asfalt ) poate ar fii mers alti stalpi de iluminat si alte bancute ceva mai "clasic" gen:
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Imi plac stalpii de iluminat (Paris)

Apropo Somesul s-ar putea face navigabil? ceva gen Bega, pt ca ar fii tare sa se faca un city tour cu vaporasul :nuts:

City,very nice!

Beautiful city! Beautiful Transylvania!!! :cheers1:

Thanks to both of you!

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Cluj-Napoca panorama (http://www.flickr.com/photos/13643199@N05/3178260162)

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Eroilor then...

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...and now

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^^Au facut lucrarile destul de frumos, asta da loc de promenada! :cheers:

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The old fountain in the Central Park

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The old fountain in the Central Park

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The old fountain looks quite new! :)

Well, it is rather new. Some spoiled kids destroyed the statues and the municipality had to remake them.

Indeed, it was repaired. They've also put video cameras around, so I trust that hooligans will leave it alone from now on.

Well, it is rather new. Some spoiled kids destroyed the statues and the municipality had to remake them.

:mad: Not cool

The old fountain in the Central Park

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E hidos de puternic contrastul intre elementele noi si cele vechi. Cred ca se putea face ceva mai de calitate astfel incat sa se estompeze din acel NOU.

^^ Le rezolva vremea :)
http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/409/asc.jpg (http://img43.imageshack.us/i/asc.jpg/)

http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/5839/asar.jpg (http://img146.imageshack.us/i/asar.jpg/)
thanks to horias2000 from flickr.com