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lazar22b March 6th, 2007, 09:40 PM Height: 268 ft
Floor count: 26
Location: East 56th and South Cornell
Neighborhood: Hyde Park
Construction end:
Architect: Studio Gang Architects
Developer: Antheus Capital, LLC
http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/6537/solsticeonthepark2xj0.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y150/wjcordier/pl_home_f.jpg
https://community.emporis.com/images/6/2007/12/577762.jpg
https://community.emporis.com/images/6/2007/12/577763.jpg
https://community.emporis.com/images/6/2007/12/577764.jpg
Environmental diagram.
https://community.emporis.com/images/6/2007/12/577765.jpg
prelude91 March 6th, 2007, 09:44 PM Finally some devolpments popping up around the Hyde Park area
Chicagotom March 6th, 2007, 10:29 PM ^^ 2016 speculation? The western views should have an awesome albeit temporary view of the Olympic Stadium. If we get it.
headcase March 6th, 2007, 10:48 PM This proposal has been been floating around for a little while, there are actual renderings either here or on SSP in the boomtown thread.
SSDD
headcase March 6th, 2007, 10:54 PM This proposal has been been floating around for a little while, there are actual renderings either here or on SSP in the boomtown thread.
SSDD
I originally read about it here (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=113852&page=45), but the rendering is gone. It looks like TUP linked to a page of the paper, not the exact image.
SSDD
spyguy March 6th, 2007, 11:24 PM Yeah, this thing isn't really that new.
http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/4944/hpgangip5.jpg
Steely Dan March 6th, 2007, 11:29 PM i've fixed the title of the thread.
and yes, this one has been on the boom rundown list for many months now, it's not a "new" proposal by any stretch.
spyguy March 7th, 2007, 05:38 AM Development firm wants to build condo tower in Hyde Park
March 05, 2007
By Eddie Baeb
A New Jersey development firm that owns several apartment buildings in Hyde Park is now planning a 26-story condominium tower for a site just north of the Museum of Science and Industry.
read more: http://chicagobusiness.com/cgi-bin/news.pl?id=24102&bt=condo&arc=n&searchType=all
The Urban Politician March 7th, 2007, 06:34 AM TONS of NIMBYism on this one, guys.
Expect it to get ram-rodded by neighbors. Poor Antheus--all they want to do is build something urban and beautiful, but they have to face the brute ugliness of anti-everything self-entitlement. Sigh... :ohno:
Helmet Yawn July 24th, 2007, 08:25 PM Elegance has a new name, and it's Studio Gang. :weird:
wrabbit July 24th, 2007, 08:26 PM I'm loving all of this attention on how light hits the building, and the fresh and straighforward design of the balconies.
The Urban Politician July 25th, 2007, 02:45 AM Antheus better be licking that Alderman's hiney good and clean, cuz there seems to be a lot of neighborhood sentiment against this. :ohno:
Either way, I find in interesting but would love to see it from more angles
spyguy November 3rd, 2007, 10:28 PM According to Hyde Park Urbanist (http://alwaysintransit.typepad.com/hyde_park_urbanist/), the Windermere West project is now called Solstice on the Park. (http://www.solsticeonthepark.com/)
http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/6537/solsticeonthepark2xj0.jpg
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/6392/87468150ik9.jpg
The Urban Politician November 3rd, 2007, 11:45 PM ^ Wow....
Second City November 4th, 2007, 01:59 AM This tower would be awesome if it got built!
CMillar November 5th, 2007, 04:46 PM That's one of the most heinous things I've ever seen.
Somehow they've taken the ugliest architecture of the 50's and 60's and made it even worse.
spyguy November 5th, 2007, 10:42 PM Somehow they've taken the ugliest architecture of the 50's and 60's and made it even worse.
Can you show me some examples from the 50's or 60's that are similar to this, especially after reading the article in Wired?
The only the thing that I can see is the entrance/plaza/driveway, but that might be necessary considering how close it is to the school.
CMillar November 5th, 2007, 11:37 PM Excessive use of concrete. Extremely unpleasant angles.
From the side it's the worst of the flat, conformist, soul-less modernism. On the front it's just a busy mass of lines and boxes.
I weep for anyone that finds this pleasing.
The Urban Politician November 6th, 2007, 03:30 AM I weep for anyone that finds this pleasing.
^ Weep away, then :D
southloopscotty November 6th, 2007, 03:50 AM ^ Weep away, then :D
Cry for me too!
CMillar November 6th, 2007, 03:33 PM Cry for me too!
Done!
bobablob November 6th, 2007, 04:45 PM I like this design! Not something I'd hang a picture of on my wall, but I think if you're going to be ugly, you can do society a service and be spectacularly ugly.
wrabbit November 7th, 2007, 07:32 PM Can't wait to see more on this pup. Studio/Gang is on a roll.
BTW, the rakish window angles are functional - designed specifically for the angle of sunlight in the 41st Parallel
Steely Dan November 7th, 2007, 08:49 PM I weep for anyone that finds this pleasing.
then you're gonna have to cry the equivalent of lake michigan for me because i don't find this project merely pleasing, it's outright mindblowingly wicked-awesome; it's an archi-gasm.
The Urban Politician November 12th, 2007, 01:50 AM From Hyde Park Progress (http://hydeparkprogress.blogspot.com/):
The community meeting (with Antheus Capital and Leslie Hairston) regarding the proposed "Solstice on the Park" development at 56th and Cornell is set for Thursday, November 15th, at 7:00 PM at the Bret Harte School, 1556 East 56th Street.
NearNorthGuy November 12th, 2007, 05:16 PM In one of the renderings there are parts of the Solstice facade that are green. Is that really going to be the case? Are those tinted windows, painted concrete panels, or something else? Just wondering.
i_am_hydrogen November 12th, 2007, 07:19 PM Best of Chicago Condos
Solstice On The Park Angles For Approval
...Solstice on the Park started out as Windermere West. It began as a Hyde Park proposal from Antheus Capital to construct a 26 story tower with 142 units on a parking lot next to the Windermere House apartment building. It was met with skepticism because of the height, concerns about traffic and the fact that the Bret Harte Elementary School is nearby. A community meeting is scheduled for November 14th and the city could rule on the zoning request shortly thereafter. If approved, Solstice on the Park could be completed in 2009...
http://www.bestchicagocondos.com/blog/solstice-on-the-park-angles-for-approval/
i_am_hydrogen November 16th, 2007, 04:30 PM From SSP:
I was amazed at how well the meeting went. Not only was there support, but enthusiastic support from the residents. The room filed with applauds with each positive comment. One man representing the chamber of commerce broke out population numbers and mentioned that Hyde Park once had 71,000 residents, which has shrunk to about 43,000 today. He then stated that “We need more density to support our stores, and CTA”. There were concerns about circulation with the neighboring Bret Harte School which were all addressed. Some were even saying “its time get this building approved.” The only negative comment was about shadows cast on building to the north, which was silenced after a shaddow study was shown. The alderman was present and seemed pleased, although she did not really speak to the crowd much. The overall mood in the room was great, with lots of laughs coming from the crowd after comments from the very charismatic lawyer representing the developer.
Some tidbits on Solstice…
-The tower’s parapet tops out at 285’. The mechanical penthouse may take it just over 300’.
-56 permanently affordable units will be provided for in a existing walk-up building that the developer purchased one year ago next door.
-The “carved” south façade is angled inwards at 72 degrees, the angle of the summer sun, (I’m guessing on the summer solstice) to minimize solar heat gain, but allow natural light and heat in the winter.
-The building will recycle rain water with a cistern under the garage for landscape irrigation.
-The “plaza” in front of the tower on 56th has been modified, and is now landscaped with sculpted hedge rows.
-Shear walls on the East and West facades were subjected to computer load tests, which reveled where the reinforced concrete was carrying little force. These areas were then subtracted and replaced with the glazed notches which increase in size as one gets higher, reducing the amount of material used, and showing true form following true function.
-The tower’s unit mix is separated into three tiers, each with its own façade layout of window bays based on the unit sizes which increases as one moves up the tower.
-Two floors of parking underground, and about four above. There will be a 2:1 ratio for Solstice, because the developer is building replacement parking for the existing lots on the site as well as opening some op to the neighborhood. The Cornel side will have offices along the ground floor facing the sidewalk. No parking will be visible on the 56th Street elevation, the condos come down to the second floor there.
-The developer will realign the alley and provide for more drop off space, as well as more green space for the neighboring Bret Harte School.
-They would like to begin marketing soon, opening a sales trailer on the site in January 2008. If all goes to plan, construction starts in summer of 2008, with completion 18 months after.
-Poured-in-place concrete structure.
-Ivy will be planted, fertilized and encouraged to grow freely up the Cornell side of the building. I asked the attorney if that could be a world record for the tallest Ivy covered wall if it was able to climb all the way up.
I guess that’s about it, ask any other questions you may have…
Sorry for the posting delay, I don't visit Hyde Park often and was obligated to go for a walk on this beautiful brisk evening.
spyguy November 21st, 2007, 03:21 AM Site plan from Hyde Park Progress (http://hydeparkprogress.blogspot.com/)
http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/2088/siteplanvs2.jpg
Different rendering from HPCC
http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/3789/56cn1os2.jpg
Beware November 21st, 2007, 06:24 AM :bleep:" HORRIBLE! " Whoever approved It for Chicago should be arrested. :mad:
i_am_hydrogen November 21st, 2007, 06:37 AM ^I beg to differ. This is an exceptional design. Chicago desperately needs more avant-garde modernism.
CMillar November 21st, 2007, 05:21 PM Avant-guarde modernism is a scourge. Especially when it channels the avant-guarde modernism of 40 years ago.
To each their own. As for me, I find this physically painful to look at.
CHIsentinel November 21st, 2007, 09:19 PM Avant-guarde modernism is a scourge. Especially when it channels the avant-guarde modernism of 40 years ago.
To each their own. As for me, I find this physically painful to look at.
Making blanket statements such as that are, quite frankly, indicative of not knowing what your are talking about - "avant-garde", or progressive architecture as it is more properly known, such as for a building like this, exists to advance ideas about built form, design, aesthetic, etc., that doesn't typically happen because of money (or lack thereof), fear of something new/not understanding why certain things are the way they are, etc. This building is very much a watershed in high-rise design because it does what other high-rises don't - it presents a new way of thinking about high-rise living while at the same time allowing the form of the building to help dictate the function; those angles which really define the look, act as a solar shield in the summer time, so that when the sun is at a higher angle the stronger sunlight doesn't fall into the units, but hits the canted roof-line instead (I've seen the solar gain diagrams at Arup, you'll all have to trust me on this) - and the criss-cross pattern on the sides is probably mimicking the the structural shape on the inside - one thing most people don't realize about diagonal bracing in terms of structural consideration is that there is an ability to use a lot less steel (assuming this is a steel structure) which saves money, which saves resources, etc, etc. For example: the Hearst tower in NYC by Foster and Partners, where I think 30-40% less steel was used because of the orientation of the steel grid.
That's why this building is so unique and important IMO because of it's innovation and the desire by the architect and the developer to do something different and one-of-a-kind. If it wasn't for avant-garde/progressive architecture, we'd only be seeing cheap, colonial-esque knock offs (which unfortunately still happens) - so try and think about what you're looking at next time before you make comments that allow people to think you don't know what you're talking about - opinions are fine, but educated opinions are even better ;)
CMillar November 26th, 2007, 04:54 PM I understand the philosophy behind the building. However, when that philosophy results in something which is abhorrent to any reasonable sense of form and symmetry, it is, in my opinion, worthless. Which is why I find "avant-guarde" designs to be so displeasing in general. Of course, I find most "avant-guarde"ism to be silly in general. It's a forced effort to be different, not necessarily good or better.
I appreciate your attempts to educate, but they aren't necessary. In my opinion, the aesthetic rules, not the function. And this is an aesthetic disaster; a modernist mishmash of foreign angles and bizarre shapes. The mind revolts at the sight of it.
You're welcome to love it.
CHIsentinel November 26th, 2007, 06:24 PM I understand the philosophy behind the building. However, when that philosophy results in something which is abhorrent to any reasonable sense of form and symmetry, it is, in my opinion, worthless. Which is why I find "avant-guarde" designs to be so displeasing in general. Of course, I find most "avant-guarde"ism to be silly in general. It's a forced effort to be different, not necessarily good or better.
I appreciate your attempts to educate, but they aren't necessary. In my opinion, the aesthetic rules, not the function. And this is an aesthetic disaster; a modernist mishmash of foreign angles and bizarre shapes. The mind revolts at the sight of it.
You're welcome to love it.
Um, ok - you're entitled to that, but I'm just curious to know what in your opinion dictates good design, where "the aesthetic rules" over the function of the building - can you site an example?
BVictor1 November 26th, 2007, 08:39 PM Avant-guarde modernism is a scourge. Especially when it channels the avant-guarde modernism of 40 years ago.
To each their own. As for me, I find this physically painful to look at.
I guess the solution would be not to look then wouldn't it?
I understand the philosophy behind the building. However, when that philosophy results in something which is abhorrent to any reasonable sense of form and symmetry, it is, in my opinion, worthless. Which is why I find "avant-guarde" designs to be so displeasing in general. Of course, I find most "avant-guarde"ism to be silly in general. It's a forced effort to be different, not necessarily good or better.
I appreciate your attempts to educate, but they aren't necessary. In my opinion, the aesthetic rules, not the function. And this is an aesthetic disaster; a modernist mishmash of foreign angles and bizarre shapes. The mind revolts at the sight of it.
You're welcome to love it.
Well, "form follows function", and that's exactly what this building does.
geoff_diamond November 27th, 2007, 02:20 AM I appreciate your attempts to educate, but they aren't necessary. In my opinion, the aesthetic rules, not the function. And this is an aesthetic disaster; a modernist mishmash of foreign angles and bizarre shapes. The mind revolts at the sight of it.
Hooray!!! Finally some real discussion around here!
Okay, so, I've gotta say that a statement like "the aesthetic rules, not the function" is a bit dangerous, no? Especially when you say that you're not into avant-garde - isn't the point of avant-garde, typically, to seperate itself from everything else based solely on aesthetics? You should love the avant-garde movement, if your position is truly that the aesthetic is king.
More troubling than the contradiction, however, is the statement itself. How can you say that nothing else matters as long as something is pleasing to look at? This may be true for art (in fact, it is true for art), but, it's hardly a safe way to go about practicing architecture. If I design and construct a house that is striking to the eye, but, the owners hate it, it leaks, it costs a fortune to heat and cool and is a-typically dark inside, even on the clearest of days - how can we say that this is acceptible just because it's pretty?
Good architecture must perform. Period. Both functionally and aesthetically. The two ideas must exist symbiotically and should be the cornerstone of practice. Performace without aesthetic isn't architecture, it's building. Aethetic without performance isn't architecture, it's sculpture.
globill November 27th, 2007, 03:04 AM at least it's a conversation piece. That's more than can be said for 90+% of new residential buildings. In fact, considering its location, near the Science&Industry and all those Nobel minds in Hyde Park...it seems rather appropriate.
If it were anywhere else in the city, the NIMBY's would certainly shoot it down.
If it's built, it'll be Chicago's little slice of Rotterdam...
BVictor1 December 15th, 2007, 10:49 AM Several images of renderings and drawings presented at Thursdays plan commission meeting for Solstice on the Park.
https://community.emporis.com/images/6/2007/12/577762.jpg
https://community.emporis.com/images/6/2007/12/577763.jpg
https://community.emporis.com/images/6/2007/12/577764.jpg
Environmental diagram.
https://community.emporis.com/images/6/2007/12/577765.jpg
The Urban Politician December 15th, 2007, 04:16 PM It's nice to be getting some of the first glimpses of my future home ;)
bluto December 15th, 2007, 09:20 PM Reminds me a little of the Boutique Monaco in Seoul. Here's a link to some renders on bldg blog:
http://bldgblog.blogspot.com/2007/11/study-in-mass.html
The Urban Politician January 13th, 2008, 09:28 PM Condo high-rise on track for Hyde Park
By Jeanette Almada | Special to the Tribune
January 13, 2008
Article tools
A 26-story tower, the largest condo planned for the South Side's Hyde Park neighborhood in more than a decade, has won Plan Commission approval.
Antheus Capital LLC, of New Jersey, will develop the 145-unit project, Solstice on the Park.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/classified/realestate/news/chi-solstice_re_ja_01-13jan13,0,3462095.story
cheeps January 14th, 2008, 05:43 PM Great news! This is design is a gutsy move. This project shows the value of Hyde Park to the city.
spyguy January 21st, 2008, 01:35 AM http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/1953/solsticeontheparknu3.jpg
wrabbit January 21st, 2008, 02:57 AM ^ Beautimus!
Chiman January 21st, 2008, 03:04 AM Any word on marketing for this and/or a website? Would love to see this one happen!
wrabbit January 21st, 2008, 03:07 AM ^ BVictor1 posted over at SSP that Solstice has a full-page ad in today's Trib.
DrzBrooklynChulo90 January 23rd, 2008, 08:53 PM What an ugly building for beautiful Chicago.
wrabbit January 24th, 2008, 04:57 PM Lynn Becker blogs about Solstice, and cites SSC's very own i_am_hydrogen along the way (added emphasis is mine):
http://arcchicago.blogspot.com/
.....Load tests on Solstice's shear walls to the east and west identified areas where the concrete carried comparatively little force, allowing voids to be cut into walls. The voids get larger as the wall rises and carries less weight, that open up what would otherwise be rather monolithic forms. Antheus will be seeking LEED certification for the project, which will also pursue such niceties as recycling rainwater for lawn irrigation. (factoids courtesy of I am hydrogen's post on a November community meeting on skyscraper city.com.).....
Oh, and I get egg on my face in the comments section.
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No one-bedroom units, and prices start at around 500,000.
i_am_hydrogen January 24th, 2008, 05:13 PM That's strange considering that the post of mine which he cites in his article simply quotes what Chicago Shawn, who actually attended the meeting, had to say about it. Shawn deserves the credit.
wrabbit January 24th, 2008, 05:39 PM ^ Yup, I noticed that too (unfortunate but correctable) - but a plug for SSC nonetheless.
wrabbit January 24th, 2008, 05:52 PM BTW, Antheus (through its subsidiary, Mac Properties) has become a major player in the Hyde Park real estate scene, in just a short period of time. This map shows their current holdings there:
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y150/wjcordier/map_00.gif
http://www.macapartments.com/mac/a_ch_hp_overview.html
Should Solstice do well, I'd hope to see more intelligently-designed projects from them in the future.
Helmet Yawn January 25th, 2008, 12:17 AM if this is what 'environmentally friendly' means in the context of what the future of architectural design is, then i prefer a time when we didn't care so much about the environment.
more disturbing though is that if this building wasn't designed by the local architect flavor-of-the-month, we wouldn't even be having this conversation right now. i could go to any school of architecture right now and find a better example of eco-friendly design.
The Urban Politician January 25th, 2008, 03:01 AM more disturbing though is that if this building wasn't designed by the local architect flavor-of-the-month, we wouldn't even be having this conversation right now. i could go to any school of architecture right now and find a better example of eco-friendly design.
^ Alright, you go do that :|
wrabbit January 25th, 2008, 06:22 PM ^ Alright, you go do that :|
^ LOL Make that a buildable design. But it's all a big conspiracy, see? The invisible hand of the Nameless Tastemaker - THE MAN - pulls the strings, rams some ephemeral aesthetic caprice into the gullets of local developer puppets who then become witting design slaves to the Great Tastemaker.
Gotta love the conspiracy theorists.
Helmet Yawn January 25th, 2008, 08:04 PM you're right. Jeanne Gang is better than chocolate, reinvented the wheel, and knows the last digit in Pi because she worked for Rem Koolhaas.....please.
the sad truth is that Chicago architecture in general is lame and takes no chances. this building does, but is ugly. i would hope you can do green in a sexy way.
American architecture other than Steven Holl's work or the occasional Gehry building is terribly ordinary. it's a real shame.
if you want to see true modernism and exploration, take a look at some projects going on right now in Europe or even Mexico. http://www.psa-publishers.com/
Flubnut January 25th, 2008, 08:15 PM In a few years, being "green" will be a regular part of any building design. Most proposed/uc buildings are already vying for some level of LEED certification, and they certainly don't go to the eco-extremes that this puppy does. It's definitely an interesting design, but I can't imagine it will spawn an entire movement or trend.
So, does the design of this building make for BIG environmental improvements, when compared to other green-but-more-mainstream buildings? In other words, is it ACTUALLY way greener, or does it just LOOK way greener?
wrabbit January 25th, 2008, 09:46 PM you're right. Jeanne Gang is better than chocolate, reinvented the wheel, and knows the last digit in Pi because she worked for Rem Koolhaas.....please.
What is it with you & straw man arguments? No one else is claiming that Solstice is going to be the next Taj Mahal, no one else has mentioned Gang's internship with Koolhaas - some of us just like the building.
the sad truth is that Chicago architecture in general is lame and takes no chances......American architecture other than Steven Holl's work or the occasional Gehry building is terribly ordinary. it's a real shame.
What does any of this have to do with Solstice? Again, some of us just like the building.
.....this building does (take chances), but is ugly. i would hope you can do green in a sexy way.....
Okay, this is more like it - no straw men, no trolling, no epigrams - just a straight-up opinion. :okay:
wrabbit January 25th, 2008, 10:38 PM In a few years, being "green" will be a regular part of any building design. Most proposed/uc buildings are already vying for some level of LEED certification, and they certainly don't go to the eco-extremes that this puppy does. It's definitely an interesting design, but I can't imagine it will spawn an entire movement or trend.
So, does the design of this building make for BIG environmental improvements, when compared to other green-but-more-mainstream buildings? In other words, is it ACTUALLY way greener, or does it just LOOK way greener?
Part of this may just be smart branding - consider the sensibilities of the Hyde Park neighborhood - Solstice's overt green qualities probably helped get this baby approved, and mitigated any anti-development protests.
wrabbit January 25th, 2008, 10:47 PM if you want to see true modernism and exploration, take a look at some projects going on right now in Europe or even Mexico. http://www.psa-publishers.com/
I kinda like this one. It has a terrace for raising chickens! It has a funny name! And it is on point! (though neither European nor Mexican ;) ):
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y150/wjcordier/2007_1217.jpg
http://www.psa-publishers.com/index.php?seite=ca_bdw_aktuell_us
(Edit 1/26 - not being snide - I really do like this building)
The Urban Politician January 26th, 2008, 04:33 AM the sad truth is that Chicago architecture in general is lame and takes no chances. this building does, but is ugly. i would hope you can do green in a sexy way.
^ Sorry, but a sad truth it is not. It's a sad opinion. See the difference?
The Urban Politician January 26th, 2008, 04:36 AM I kinda like this one. It has a terrace for raising chickens! It has a funny name! And it is on point! (though neither European nor Mexican ;) ):
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y150/wjcordier/2007_1217.jpg
http://www.psa-publishers.com/index.php?seite=ca_bdw_aktuell_us
^ This is somehow less ugly than Solstice on the Park?
There you go Helmut Yawn, now you've won me over :ohno:
Face it, you're like the other dime-a-dozen Americans who are obsessed with anything that's happening in Europe, simply because it's Europe and thus it has to be good. God forbid you approve of something going up in such a provincial, midwestern town such as Chicago. What would your elitist friends think about you?
The Urban Politician January 26th, 2008, 04:48 AM http://www.california-architects.com/portal/profile/pics/156393/15529/i1.jpg
^ Oooooh, aaaaah.... Here's another one.
Wow, I've never been so blown away in my life. I wish Chicago could have architects like this guy in California. Chicago could only dream of having such a structure. Poor midwesterners... And it's not even typical tiresome coastal elitism that explains why that website only has NY and California architects listed after all, it's just the cold, hard TRUTH. Chicago is a provincial backwater; actually, it's the provincial backwater's backwater
i_am_hydrogen January 26th, 2008, 06:09 AM What's your definition of "taking chances," Helmut? I don't mean that in a condescending way. I'm just trying to gauge where you stand.
Are we talking CCTV Headquarters in Beijing type-chances?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v646/cityq/Projects%20and%20developments/CCTVHeadquarters1x.jpg
ardecila January 26th, 2008, 11:51 PM Face it, you're like the other dime-a-dozen Americans who are obsessed with anything that's happening in Europe, simply because it's Europe and thus it has to be good. God forbid you approve of something going up in such a provincial, midwestern town such as Chicago. What would your elitist friends think about you?
The project he posted was in fact a Seattle proposal designed by a Seattle architectural firm - very little if any European involvement.
The Urban Politician January 27th, 2008, 05:46 AM The project he posted was in fact a Seattle proposal designed by a Seattle architectural firm - very little if any European involvement.
^ And that post by me was made after a few too many glasses of wine.
Pardon me for that....
ardecila January 27th, 2008, 08:20 AM Lucky for you that I'm (usually) sober while posting. :lol:
Ch.G, Ch.G January 27th, 2008, 09:20 PM you're right. Jeanne Gang is better than chocolate, reinvented the wheel, and knows the last digit in Pi because she worked for Rem Koolhaas.....please.
the sad truth is that Chicago architecture in general is lame and takes no chances. this building does, but is ugly. i would hope you can do green in a sexy way.
American architecture other than Steven Holl's work or the occasional Gehry building is terribly ordinary. it's a real shame.
if you want to see true modernism and exploration, take a look at some projects going on right now in Europe or even Mexico. http://www.psa-publishers.com/
yaaaaaaaaaaaaaawn
Helmet Yawn January 28th, 2008, 01:16 AM isn't the wonderful thing about a website like this the total anonimity it gives us by which we can all interact with other passionate fans of Architecture regardless of our backgrounds....or what our names really are?
cheeps January 28th, 2008, 04:16 PM isn't the wonderful thing about a website like this the total anonimity it gives us by which we can all interact with other passionate fans of Architecture regardless of our backgrounds....or what our names really are?
Yawn... I agree with the statement above. However, I personally think that this project is a bold and creative step. Might you enlighten us with a project or two that you find appealing...
bobablob January 30th, 2008, 01:23 AM isn't the wonderful thing about a website like this the total anonimity it gives us by which we can all interact with other passionate fans of Architecture regardless of our backgrounds....or what our names really are?
Didn't you say you were leaving? It was nice while you were gone.
wrabbit January 31st, 2008, 05:31 PM Some tasty new renders of Solstice from Studio/Gang:
Solstice on the Park, a 26 story residential tower, is literally shaped by solar access. Its living spaces are chiseled to create a ‘self-shaded’ south-facing surface in response to summer sun, making the building specific to its climate and sun angles.....
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y150/wjcordier/e4_5.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y150/wjcordier/e4_6.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y150/wjcordier/e4_4.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y150/wjcordier/e4_7.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y150/wjcordier/e4_8.jpg
http://www.studiogang.net/site/projects_e4.htm
spyguy May 11th, 2008, 09:14 PM According to an email, the grand opening is May 17 & 18
http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/3866/solsticeonthepark2tq7.jpg
ZZ-II May 12th, 2008, 03:09 PM very beautiful tower, simply great design!
spyguy May 19th, 2008, 07:15 PM http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/2640/219271ve3.jpg
Lobby
http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/5962/solsticelobbyjw8.jpg
Roof garden
http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/8681/solsticegardenyw3.jpg
Pool
http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/7496/solsticepoolpo7.jpg
BBQ
http://img360.imageshack.us/img360/6555/solsticebbqpu7.jpg
Helmet Yawn May 19th, 2008, 07:44 PM it is a collection of interesting individual parts. still seems a little top-heavy to me proportionally speaking.
CHIsentinel May 20th, 2008, 12:26 AM ^^Looks cool - Jeanne's a great architect and I think this design is further proof of that
:)
Helmet Yawn May 20th, 2008, 12:35 AM actually, her husband Mark is a much better designer... not to mention, communicator.
but it's ok, keep drinking the "local treasure" kool-aide!! =)
The Urban Politician May 20th, 2008, 03:42 AM .....so how was the grand opening?
ardecila May 20th, 2008, 06:22 AM it is a collection of interesting individual parts. still seems a little top-heavy to me proportionally speaking.
that could be an effect of the rendering style, which does not show vertical perspective - i.e, all vertical lines are displayed as being parallel.
in real life, vertical perspective will help to counterbalance any top-heaviness you may perceive.
UrbanSophist May 20th, 2008, 11:20 PM Excessive use of concrete. Extremely unpleasant angles.
From the side it's the worst of the flat, conformist, soul-less modernism. On the front it's just a busy mass of lines and boxes.
I weep for anyone that finds this pleasing.
This is a great design.
Helmet Yawn May 21st, 2008, 12:12 AM i would disagree with CMillar on one point: this building definitely has a soul, or should i say a great ambition, but what i feel it lacks is elegance.
i personally don't think it comes together to create a coherant building. at the end of the day- in my opinion- architecture is not about how well we solve an equation or how scientifically correct it is. that was the intellectual cul-de-sac that design was stuck in back in the early 90's when architects were subscribing to scientific american magazine and using the cross sections of a fish superimposed onto their buildings in an effort to create "scientifically inspired" avante gard spaces.
jeanne and mark's building is much closer to the mark in terms of applied sciences in response to solar activity and exterior sheer wall application, but i believe it needed one more level of refinement. i read the science, but not the heart.
The Urban Politician May 21st, 2008, 03:44 PM If I could just find a good job in Hyde Park next year I'll be seriously considering purchasing a unit in this thing.
The search is on...:)
urbanpln May 23rd, 2008, 03:26 PM If I could just find a good job in Hyde Park next year I'll be seriously considering purchasing a unit in this thing.
The search is on...:)
Jeanie Gang is also designing another complex (20 something story tower and 8 story condo/retail/commercial building) located south of Kenwood High School and north of Harper Cout. The complex will have retail on the ground floor, offices and entertainment (restaurants/lounges), open space on the roof top of the 8 story condo building. It will have entrances and retail on both Lake Park Avenue and 52nd Street.
spyguy January 24th, 2009, 09:31 PM http://www.chicagobusiness.com/cgi-bin/mag/article.pl?articleId=31257
Solstice on the Park
Andrew Schroedter
January 26, 2009
...Englewood, N.J.-based Antheus plans to start construction this spring, unless financing proves impossible amid the credit crunch.
Eli Ungar, Antheus principal and partner, says his firm needs to sell between 40% and 50% of the units to secure a construction loan. If it reaches that benchmark soon, the glass-encased tower, billed as Hyde Park's first new condo high-rise since the mid-1970s, could be completed by the end of 2010, midway through Mr. Obama's term as president.
Jibba January 25th, 2009, 12:13 AM ^As cheesy as it would be, I hope their marketing team is promoting Hyde Park as "home to President Barack Obama!".
TampaMike April 4th, 2009, 07:36 PM Haven't seen it posted on here, maybe I skipped over it, but here's the website for this.
http://www.solsticeonthepark.com/
simulcra April 4th, 2009, 09:16 PM man, i wish i was moving back to Chicago. What an awesome building in a gorgeous neighborhood. Plus, I'm just happy that some significant investment is coming back into the south side - hopefully this can spur some more investment in the surrounding areas, too.
The Urban Politician April 25th, 2009, 10:49 PM ...Englewood, N.J.-based Antheus plans to start construction this spring, unless financing proves impossible amid the credit crunch.
^ Well, spring is here and...it's still spring!
I hope things are going well with sales..
spyguy February 21st, 2010, 11:12 PM http://media1.suntimes.com/multimedia/g021910shoreland2_cst_feed_20100218_22_09_41_9377-159-400.imageContent
Hyde Park's famed Shoreland Hotel may go rental
BY DAVID ROEDER AND FRAN SPIELMAN
...Antheus also is working with Gang at two Hyde Park sites where new condo buildings are contemplated. The sites are at 5101 S. Harper, where the company wants to replace a small shopping center with a 22-story building, and the northwest corner of 56th and Cornell, which would get a 28-story building.
The Cornell project is further along but has been caught in the housing downdraft. Ungar said more pre-sales are needed before he can finance it.
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