Wingårdh is a cool architect but this with highrises... I'd employ another architect.

It seems as if the bathe ring will be built. Sandell do not give up. The question is where it will be built. What do you think about Söder mälarstrand? I guess that there will be lesser complaints about that location since fewer peoples sea view will be disturbed and the hotell will not be in the way of Gamla stan or any other old building (except for the people living in boats there). The alternative is Ulvsundasjön.


Still the same damn hotel, so I will oppose it. If the mayor think its nice with a bathing area on the water let's build it without private entrepreneurs. Thus the "high" hotel structur evaporates.

Still the same damn hotel, so I will oppose it. If the mayor think its nice with a bathing area on the water let's build it without private entrepreneurs. Thus the "high" hotel structur evaporates.

Nimby

Still the same damn hotel, so I will oppose it. If the mayor think its nice with a bathing area on the water let's build it without private entrepreneurs. Thus the "high" hotel structur evaporates.

Why will you oppose it? And what is wrong with private entrepreneurs?

Still the same damn hotel, so I will oppose it. If the mayor think its nice with a bathing area on the water let's build it without private entrepreneurs. Thus the "high" hotel structur evaporates.

It's a strange way of thinking. Take away all private investments in a city and you'll end up with something reminding of Soviet. Sure, some great monuments but no real urban life. You need constant private investments in hotels, shopping, housing, restaurants, cinemas etc for a city to really feel alive. And if you get overly restrictive (Stockholm is known for this), all those investments will happen somewhere else. In Solna? Or in Göteborg? Or maybe in another country.

Still the same damn hotel, so I will oppose it. If the mayor think its nice with a bathing area on the water let's build it without private entrepreneurs. Thus the "high" hotel structur evaporates.

I agree with the rest here... You should not have to be a politician or beurocrat to make dreams come true... we who are in the private sector should also be able to finance architecture.

Here it is ladies and gentlemen:

http://di.se/Databas/2007/10/12/Pix/hotell-text.jpg

Stockholms second skyscraper! ;) Keep em' coming!

http://di.se/Nyheter/?page=%2fAvdelningar%2fArtikel.aspx%3fO%3dIndex%26ArticleID%3d2007%5c10%5c12%5c252381
Not very exiting, but it's not ugly, and I think it'll fit good next to Science tower. They have kinda similar design.

I just made this very basic model in Maya to see if my "calculations" are ok, and this is how I figure the tower will look like from another angle:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2186/1572005784_3aa6257927_o.jpg

Damn, not a very nice design in that case! :P hehe

hmmmm i thought the roof was meant to be angled......

oh well i guess the lighting at night will make up for it

hmmmm i thought the roof was meant to be angled......

oh well i guess the lighting at night will make up for it

On the picture it looks like it's angled, but I suppose it isn't.

I just realised that I did the model a little wrong, but I think you get my point. Remember that my model is a solid piece of polygons; when covered in glass and 140m high I still think it's gonna look pretty cool. :)

I just made this very basic model in Maya to see if my "calculations" are ok, and this is how I figure the tower will look like from another angle:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2186/1572005784_3aa6257927_o.jpg

Yikes... :eek:

Yikes... :eek:

Not really.. I think it will look pretty cool in glass, especially highlighted at night... :)

Hey staff! Great image of the Torso at your flickr site!

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2403/1573130770_6655c07ce3_o.jpg

Nice work!

The new national arena in Solna will be named "Swedbank Arena". With a maximum capacity of 67.500 it'll be the biggest arena in the nordic.
http://www.dn.se/DNet/jsp/polopoly.jsp?d=647&a=704562

http://www.solna.se/upload/1_Anders/Bilder%202007/Swedbankarena-15okt-107.jpg

http://www.solna.se/upload/1_Anders/Bilder%202007/Swedbankarena-15okt-207.jpg

More info and bigger pictures:
http://www.solna.se/upload/1_Anders/dokument/Swedbank%20Arena-press-15okt-207.pdf

That 20-floorer looks very small next to that monster.

^^ HUGE!!

Maybe it's just me thinking it's a bit weird, but there already is a Swedbank Arena? It's the home arena for MoDo Hockey up in Örnsköldsvik. Plus, the new stadium being constructed in Malmö will be called Swedbank Stadion. What's up with that? Is Swedbank the only company willing to pay for the names of these new stadiums?

... but I can't wait till it's completed!

More pics

http://www.kista.com/gallery2/gallery/d/11191-1/Kistam__ssan.JPG

http://www.kista.com/gallery2/gallery/d/11340-2/modellen.jpg

http://www.kista.com/gallery2/gallery/d/11343-2/modellen2.jpg

from: http://www.kista.com/sv/news/har_byggs_stockholms_nya_skyskrapa

Cool! And remember: ^^ is the short version. The new one has 10 more floors! :)

The new national arena in Solna will be named "Swedbank Arena". With a maximum capacity of 67.500 it'll be the biggest arena in the nordic.
http://www.dn.se/DNet/jsp/polopoly.jsp?d=647&a=704562

http://www.solna.se/upload/1_Anders/Bilder%202007/Swedbankarena-15okt-107.jpg

http://www.solna.se/upload/1_Anders/Bilder%202007/Swedbankarena-15okt-207.jpg




Quite ugly, but I like that you can close the roof, at leat something, but the design :ohno:

^^What the Heck... This is the 3 Swedbank arena in Sweden (after Västerås and Önsköldsviks arenas). The new stadium in Malmö will in addition be called Swedbank Stadion. How should we separate the Stadiums? And the new version of the stadium does not look as good as the first one. Buuuh.

But I do not support AIK anyway...:cheers:

^^What the Heck... This is the 3 Swedbank arena in Sweden (after Västerås and Önsköldsviks arenas). The new stadium in Malmö will in addition be called Swedbank Stadion. How should we separate the Stadiums? And the new version of the stadium does not look as good as the first one. Buuuh.

But I do not support AIK anyway...:cheers:
This is a joke. We can't have four Swedbank-arenas for god sake! :ohno:

And the design of the new national arena sucks! I liked the old renderings better.

I'm not too familiar with Stockholm where is this new tower located?

Kista is a suburb north of Stockholm downtown.

High resolution pics of the new ugly arena:

http://www.svenskfotboll.se/files/%7B802373DA-E2FB-4DF7-920D-0C982ACD50BD%7D.jpg

http://www.svenskfotboll.se/files/%7BC0E5BBA7-3CD1-4FF2-A4D2-C06458D22B86%7D.jpg

im ok with the areana (think almost all arenas are butt ugly anyway :) but wats up with that silly looking house next to it? its not Stockholm stad so why just not build? Solna is a tiny place build HIGH :)

^Kista is technically within City limits, but is about 8km north-northwest of the traditional (urban) Inner City and about 17min from the Central Station by subway. The tower will be under 100m from the interstate going from the City to the airport (ARN) and points north. I can not stress enough how much more visible this tower will be than KST when coming into the city from the north.

@Bob - thanks for the big renderings :) Another 10 floors will looks f*cking sweet. And d'yall see the new LRT in the big pic? That's actually a model of the C60 (new commuter trains), most likelly it'll be something looking very much like the Tvärbanan LRTs.

It seems as if the pictures of the stadium we've seen here is showing "how the stadium could look like". They will as far as I understand give an Architect the task to design the stadium and it may look different...

It seems as if the pictures of the stadium we've seen here is showing "how the stadium could look like". They will as far as I understand give an Architect the task to design the stadium and it may look different...
I really hope so!

But if that's the case. Why did they changed the design from the last design?

http://www.gbf.se/files/Image/GLAS-tidningen/arena.jpg

the new picture is maybe somthing Swebank made themself?

It seems as if the pictures of the stadium we've seen here is showing "how the stadium could look like". They will as far as I understand give an Architect the task to design the stadium and it may look different...

I sincearly hope so! You saved the day :)
From those new pictures it looked like an external hard drive or an external sound card or something external to do with a computor I suppose.
Please bring in a good architect!


Edit: Or perhaps it looks like a scanner:

http://www.pixmania.com/dev/gui_web/common_dsp/zoom.php?itag=5883&ArticleId=526379

It's official. We live in Swedbankland.
Nationality: Swedbanklander.

I really hope so!

But if that's the case. Why did they changed the design from the last design?

http://www.gbf.se/files/Image/GLAS-tidningen/arena.jpg
They had to change the design since the retractable roof of the first model got too expensive.

I think it's great that a company pays 150 million sek for the name, much better than spending 150 million on ads on tv and in magazines etc...

^Kista is technically within City limits, but is about 8km north-northwest of the traditional (urban) Inner City and about 17min from the Central Station by subway. The tower will be under 100m from the interstate going from the City to the airport (ARN) and points north. I can not stress enough how much more visible this tower will be than KST when coming into the city from the north.


due to all your forest, KST is practically invisable when coming from the north

^^ Well, that depends; if you're coming in via E18 it's very visible. :)

@Swede: Perhaps a few photos of the site and a little Kista U/C update? :)

The Solna arena is fugly, but then what would you expect from the Swedish FA?

The one south of Globen will be something else. ;)

From the E18 KST is VERY visible, you can really see how much even the low-rise parts jut up over Kista (which is something you don't get a sense of from here inside Kista).
A Kista u/c update? sounds like a plan :) but it'll have to wait a few days, got school+work...

I'm none to excited about Nya Råsunda either, I'd be hoping for something more distinctive and with a big Three Crowns emblem on the facade and/or roof. Also, what of the surrounding development? and the new exit from the Solna commuter-rail station? what are those plans looking like? 2012 is only 5 years away!
¨Could be worse than Swedbank. Imagine the Telenor Arena :D;)

From the E18 KST is VERY visible, you can really see how much even the low-rise parts jut up over Kista (which is something you don't get a sense of from here inside Kista).
A Kista u/c update? sounds like a plan :) but it'll have to wait a few days, got school+work...

I'm none to excited about Nya Råsunda either, I'd be hoping for something more distinctive and with a big Three Crowns emblem on the facade and/or roof. Also, what of the surrounding development? and the new exit from the Solna commuter-rail station? what are those plans looking like? 2012 is only 5 years away!
¨Could be worse than Swedbank. Imagine the Telenor Arena :D;)
The surroundings wont be finished in 2012. They'll be built by stages during a period of 15 years.

Cool! And remember: ^^ is the short version. The new one has 10 more floors! :)

This one is gonna kick ass!
And it seems pretty much everyone is on the board for this one! :banana:

Just hope nothing gets in the way...

I did a quickie in Photoshop.
40 floors would look something like this:
http://gardebring.com/shared/skyscrapercity/kista.jpg

^^Much better!

As for the Stadiums... AIK are loosers... But Hammarbys new arena will of course kick ass;)

About the new stadium, I for one disagree... I think it looks pretty good. And best of all, it´s huge ;)

And about the new 40 floorer in kista, Im really anxious to see this brutalistic beast being built... it will give Kista a whole ny entrance when coming from Arlanda.

^^Much better!

As for the Stadiums... AIK are loosers... But Hammarbys new arena will of course kick ass;)

Klart som korvspad lol, have you heard anything lately about the new hammarby arena??

^^Nah. The last news is that Hammarby will announce the new stadium this year and that it will propably have a removable roof, 30 000 seats and plastic lawn.

HS update 13/10

Here are som pics from my visit to HS this weekend. Needed to test my new camera! :D

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b7ce37b3127ccebda57399917b00000025119AaNGTJk3bW
The Kinnarps HQ

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Bonus pics

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Hope u liked my pics! :)

A bit small ;) but there's so many! :)

Many things to comment on, but here's a few of the top o' me head:
Black shiny brick facade looks sweet.
The old industrial building with a glass-boc add-on is awesome too, new and at the same time keeping the historical industrial hood around a bit.
Half the HS cube is almost done :P I wonder when the other half is going up.

^Yeah, i know.. I am using shutterfly. Much easier to use, but the pics get really small. :P I find shutterfly easier and quiker to use compared to imageshack..

Yes, I totaly agree with you, speaking about the shiny black facade building and the glass facade on the old industrial building! :)

About the cube.. It should bee going up now. Don't know why there's such a hold-up..

Hey staff! Great image of the Torso at your flickr site!

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2403/1573130770_6655c07ce3_o.jpg

Nice work!
Hey, cheers! :cheers1:

I just thought I should mention that there is some action in the "Yimby movement"-thread again:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=517341&page=2

Here's some news from svd that I think most of us like (http://www.svd.se/kulturnoje/nyheter/artikel_505941.svd). The politicians want to build a cultural house as well as a shopping center in/on Slussen. They consider to build a new Opera house, new theater or another kind of brand name cultural building on the spot.

"Samtidigt lutar det allt mer åt att klöverbladslösningen försvinner, och att ett antal arkitektkontor bjuds in att skissa på utformningen av den nya förbindelsen."

hahaha will it never end?? :)

The days of the commieblocks from the sixties in Järvafältet might be over soon. Svenska Bostäder wants to renovate some buildings (see the picture) and bulldoze the worse buildings to build smaller or very high new buildings.

http://www.dn.se/content/1/c6/70/59/15/jarva445.jpg

Here's the link (http://www.dn.se/DNet/jsp/polopoly.jsp?d=1298&a=705915)

Here's more pictures of the project.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2155/1611997273_8a977929e2_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2298/1612886436_2067ac14a5_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2306/1612884798_0d816dddab_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2404/1611994757_73239421fb_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2263/1612881704_9486e1b0cd_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2320/1611991789_3318db541c_o.jpg

i hope it will end up as good as the renders. . looks good.

Finally! I was wondering when someone yould focus on renovating the old commieblocks, it is surely need :applause:

Btw, that highrise render looks like it got 32 floors, sweet :)

"Samtidigt lutar det allt mer åt att klöverbladslösningen försvinner, och att ett antal arkitektkontor bjuds in att skissa på utformningen av den nya förbindelsen."

hahaha will it never end?? :)

Now listening to "Neverending Story". :yes:

Here's more pictures of the project.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2155/1611997273_8a977929e2_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2298/1612886436_2067ac14a5_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2306/1612884798_0d816dddab_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2404/1611994757_73239421fb_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2263/1612881704_9486e1b0cd_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2320/1611991789_3318db541c_o.jpg

It was about time! I have to concurr with Jonte Myra! The idea is BRILLIANT but I would like this idea to be applied on nearly almost every Million Programme Area. Norgegatan would look sleek! :eek:

The fourth picture shows a block on Trondheimsgatan (Husby), I see how it looks now but I can't visualise like it looks on the render. It looks too monotonous, too bleak. We need more daring design, I wouldn't mind if Swedish Architects would travel, - no - live abroad for a while and learn from foreigners. We're simply too boring. Monotonous, grey/white, minimalist, nah. I prefer something more bold.

The last picture is reminiscent of current Solna Centrum which I love!! :drool:

Here's some news from svd that I think most of us like (http://www.svd.se/kulturnoje/nyheter/artikel_505941.svd). The politicians want to build a cultural house as well as a shopping center in/on Slussen. They consider to build a new Opera house, new theater or another kind of brand name cultural building on the spot.

Wicked! Just what we were needing! It's about time. It's about time that Stockholm gets a new, impressive landmark.
Stockholm needs more culture. In contrast to many other cities around the world, in Stockholm "culture" has almost become synonymous to "fine culture", that is, it's only destined/available to a certain class of people.
I would like them to make this BIG! Big as in "ambitious". Ambitious means also "great designs". Build it, and for god's sake don't let them come with the typical Swedish standard, cliché argument "the state doesn't have money, we cannot build it".<- That's just an eternal excuse.
I frankly don't care who builds it, only that they build it!

Yes, hopefully Stockholm will get a new Opera House, a new (big) Theatre and oh well, build that shopping centre (I'm thinking of job opportunities for all those that are unemployed).

Here's more pictures of the project.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2155/1611997273_8a977929e2_o.jpg


Where did you find all those pictures?
Is there a site where these are presented?
I want to add this news to the yimby.se-site so I need somewhere to link...
Great news by the way. Very much needed. I hope they go for those highrises to, It would really add to the dynamics of the area and make it more attractive to live in.

there is pleanty of new shoppingmalls under the way anyway so if we loose one its not that big of a deal :)

If you put a 32s building at the south entrence of Husby subway station (as in the renderings) I'd see it from right here at home :D

I love the plans overall, of course I don't think everything is perfect. But it's by a huge margin good enough :) Husby really does need that make-over, and while lowrises ain't fun building very tall right by the subway and short around the edges makes obvious sense. Like Chilenofuturista i'd like to see more renderings and get a better idea of the plans, but so far so good. Also agree with Swedish architects getting out and about more and stop being so afraid of building things that don't conform to the mainstream. We're part of a big world and there's good ideas and design all over it, so why only a slowly changing standard for ALL project (looks-wise)?


AGAIN with Slussen! Quit it already! I'm not against building something bold there, but the place is litterally crumbling right now! The final desicion sould IMO be taken THIS year, not in 20 years. Build Nya Slussen now.

It was about time! I have to concurr with Jonte Myra! The idea is BRILLIANT but I would like this idea to be applied on nearly almost every Million Programme Area. Norgegatan would look sleek! :eek:

The fourth picture shows a block on Trondheimsgatan (Husby), I see how it looks now but I can't visualise like it looks on the render. It looks too monotonous, too bleak. We need more daring design, I wouldn't mind if Swedish Architects would travel, - no - live abroad for a while and learn from foreigners. We're simply too boring. Monotonous, grey/white, minimalist, nah. I prefer something more bold.

The last picture is reminiscent of current Solna Centrum which I love!! :drool:

I agree my friend. Except that I think we should send our politicians to other countries instead of the Architects. I believe it's their fault that the monotonous minimalistic international style (funkis) dominates in this country. Not even the most famous architects from other countries make masterpices here in Sweden (except Calatrava thanks to a stuborn Scanian who offered his job for the building).

Where did you find all those pictures?
Is there a site where these are presented?
I want to add this news to the yimby.se-site so I need somewhere to link...
Great news by the way. Very much needed. I hope they go for those highrises to, It would really add to the dynamics of the area and make it more attractive to live in.

Here's links!

http://www.svebo.se/NewsPage____66626.aspx
http://www.svebo.se/Page____66495.aspx

Here's links!

http://www.svebo.se/NewsPage____66626.aspx
http://www.svebo.se/Page____66495.aspx

Thanks!
Here is the article:
http://www.yimby.se/2007/10/svenska-bostader-storsats_361.html

The last pic looks greaat, especially considering how it looks now. It reminds me of some apartment blocks in vauxhall in london.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/property/graphics/2006/08/23/pfirsttime23.jpg

And as someone said this should be done in many more million programme areas.

EDIT:
"Förändringen av stadsmiljön är en del av Järvalyftet, Stockholms stads långsiktiga investering för att skapa en positiv ekonomisk och social utveckling i stadsdelarna runt Järvafältet: Akalla, Hjulsta, Husby, Kista, Rinkeby och Tensta." - Svebo

That sounds really really good, thats exactly what is needed in those areas viable business, which today only kista has.

A few pictures from today in Kista :)

First the hotel/convention-center site:

on the right side of the street I'm on and on the other side of the bridge = the site
http://hem.bredband.net/torkel120/20071018d.jpg

both these are going to give way to Kistamässan (convention center), and demolition is under way...
http://hem.bredband.net/torkel120/20071018e.jpg

from the opposite corner of the site
http://hem.bredband.net/torkel120/20071018i.jpg
http://hem.bredband.net/torkel120/20071018g.jpg

foreground Kistamässan site which blends into the hotel site, building in back is across Kistagången (street the hotel will front on)
http://hem.bredband.net/torkel120/20071018h.jpg

That pile of rubble is where the hotel will go. Already there's a busstop right there :D
http://hem.bredband.net/torkel120/20071018f.jpg

Some bonus pics
the 32s tower in the Järvalyftet renderings would rise roughly in the center of this one, but it's maybe 2km away (from Kista to Husby subway stations)
http://hem.bredband.net/torkel120/20071018a.jpg

that empty lot is where KistaResidenceTower would have stood by now :(
http://hem.bredband.net/torkel120/20071018b.jpg

the taller KistaTerrass tower will (hopefully) be in the middle of this shot
http://hem.bredband.net/torkel120/20071018c.jpg

there's still plenty of space in Kista. The Kista Port towers would (have) be(en?) in the back of this shot
http://hem.bredband.net/torkel120/20071018m.jpg

Kista Science Tower
http://hem.bredband.net/torkel120/20071018l.jpg

fall is here, as is the bus.
http://hem.bredband.net/torkel120/20071018k.jpg

the mighty Ericsson Group HQ
http://hem.bredband.net/torkel120/20071018j.jpg

Great pics swede, thanx.

I read that PDF that was on Svebo's site and read that they would demolish all of the pedestrian bridges. Dont know if this only pertains to Tentsa or to all of the "Järva Field" surroundings. Anyhow that is quite major since there might be a good 50 of them in Northwest Stockholm.

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z270/mansakuini/Tensta-Broarbort.jpg

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z270/mansakuini/Jrvalyftet-Esplanad.jpg
Connecting The last stops on the blue tube line

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z270/mansakuini/Jrvalyftet-Tidplan.jpg
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z270/mansakuini/Jrvalyftet-Tidplan2.jpg
Svenska bostäder are planing to invest ca 100 million SEK (~9 million Euro) per year
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z270/mansakuini/Jrvalyftet-Mlsttningar.jpg

A new operahouse at Slussen? Stupid idea. Why do cities build opera houses today? For prestige of course. So the architecture should also be flamboyant. Is that possible at Slussen? Aparently it is technically possible to build a big house there acording to the article in SvD. Do we really want that?

Yes, if we want something really modern being juxtaposed to the oldest part of Stockholm, just like KF once was allowed to build their glassy boxy funkis there.

Yes, if we want yet another big building making the Skeppsbron houses look smaller, just like the big boxy Royal Palace does.

Yes, if we think that Söder needs another face towards City than the small-scale houses and the spires and clock towers.

I don't think there are many in Stockholm that would like that. So the obvious solution if using the Slussen plot is to try to hide it as much as possible just like they did when Moderna Muséet was built. But that approach is out of style today. I mean, what's the fun in creating monuments that are not allowed to show it's full potential?

Build a new Opera house in a new setting. It's fine that Stockholm dares to be bold again but be a little careful with the parts that are truly unique in Sweden and in the world really!

You should rather build a new Opera house in a park or why not by a sea shore? I know that's can be controversial for Stockholmers but parkland is not anything unique, all cities have trees.

There is of course a limit outside which the monuments should not be built. Bagarmossen in not interesting for instance. I'm not sure exactly where that limit is. More or less inom tullarna could be a good borderline. That means that places like Hammarby Sjöstad could work, or Norra station, or Djurgården, or Rålis. Monuments in these places can contribute to an expansion of what we consider to be the inner-city. And a consequence of this will be increased property values which leads to a bigger interest in making investments in housing and commercial project around there.

Ah.. I read that they want to put a shopping galleria at Slussen. Yes, that's a good idea. It will benefit from the big flow of people through Slussen and can also give the place a modern feeling while not making a big visual impact, shopping premises don't need much windows and can be put below surface level.

There are already like 6 gallerior around Slussen... And they don't feel any modern at all, just depressing. No more malls in Stockholm please. It would be better to get some sort of attractive institution that draws crowds, not necessarily an opera house but at least something for the dead corners. Fits with the backdrop aswell as there's a mix of different styles along the hill. The new urbanism areas don't feel like real parts of the inner city yet, an opera house there wouldn't be taken as seriously as one in the city. Though it would probably speed up the integration so you have a point.

But as I understand it with Slussen the big concern is the bus terminal. As there are plans for a subway extension to Nacka, the bus terminal wouldn't be needed in the future, or at least not in the same scale as today. But those extensions won't be ready before like in 2025, and the new Slussen will have to be built long before that as the current one is falling apart. So when designing it the choice is between having an obsolete bus terminal in the future, or 15 years of chaos for the commuters before the subway stretch is ready. There's no really good solution as it seems and maybe the city council is waiting for a genius to appear and solve it :)

Stolen pictures, just for atmosphere:
http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/5696/slussen1sf5.jpg
http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/4836/slussen2or0.jpg

@Swede: Thanks for the update and LOL @ Ericssons HQ, they don't care so much for appearances. I guess Kistamässan and the new Scandic tower is more than welcome to that area. :)

It's better to build an exciting modern building in Liljeholmen than a building that has to be hided among older buildings (like moderna museet). They will tear down the old shoppingcenters under Slussen today to build a new one under the new Slussen as far as I understand. Södermalm needs more spacious modern houses for shopping since most of the houses there is old with small rooms.

To me the idea of putting a new opera or some such at Slussen is out of the question. Not because it's a bad location for something monumental (it certainly ain't) but because this is suggesting things in the 13th hour. The options are build a near-copy of the inhospitable place that is today's Slussen or build Nya Slussen. No new options are to be considerd. This indecision has been going on since like 1990, so don't tell me there was no time to present a proposal before: there was OVER A DECADE to come up with things.
In conclusion: stop suggesting new stuff and just build Nya Slussen yesterday!

@sims & AW - :)

About the Järva-plan:
removign the pedestrian bridges might work in some places, but most places the height differences are too big IMO. This is by design. Completely seperate the pedestrians and the cars. All it does in most of Järva is enhance the Projects-feel. The rows of indetical concrete buildings don't help either. So over-all the plan is great.
But! What is this Granholmen? connecting Södra and Norra Järva with new buildings? you can forget about that. The field is sacrosanct to many people who live here, and proposing something like that is like trying to get the rest of your plan shot down with it on purpose.

Stumbled onto another forum today when I was looking for details of the anti-Tvärbanan protests in Gröndal (boring day at work) and thought I should put it here. It's an enthusiast's vision of the Stockholm public transportation network circa 2057. Not really realistic, maybe, but interesting...

http://www.ss.se/forum/viewtopic.php?t=23297

http://www.nerdboy.se/tram/ktrafik2057/whela.jpg

WOW.. i really like the look of the Norgegatan-rendering.

Just a quick post with 2 pics I took of svea torn a couple of days ago, just to show that it actually gives a little bit of "skyline"-feeling since you can see it from pretty far away.
This, of course, is only because all the other buildings are damn low but still.
These pics are shot in lousy light and the second one also max zoomed in to 200mm on my zoom lens so sorry about the picture quality.

Anyway, this is what it looks like from the street where I live (I live in the yellow house first to the left in the picture):

http://gardebring.com/shared/skyscrapercity/svea3/1.jpg

And this is the same angle but zoomed in:
http://gardebring.com/shared/skyscrapercity/svea3/2.jpg

I think the view from one of those panorama windows on the top floor is pretty nice!

Yeah, I'd like one of those apartments please!

i went buy there a couple of days ago aswell (but my server is down so no pics) but it is starting to look really good from walhallavägen. . just tobad it isnt higher as usual :/

What is the status of the tel us tower and where is it to be located in Stockholn?

^It's just a vision at the moment and it's located at Telefonplan, south of Stockholm.

just a question how come a lot of the Swedish residential apartments don't seem to go any higher than 6 storeys, are there height restrictions of some sort?

just a question how come a lot of the Swedish residential apartments don't seem to go any higher than 6 storeys, are there height restrictions of some sort?

No, just a lousy mentality! :P

just a question how come a lot of the Swedish residential apartments don't seem to go any higher than 6 storeys, are there height restrictions of some sort?


Especially in Stockholm where people not only generally seem to dislike high buildings but also modern architecture. It has become a bit better but it's going slow, before people were against building new at all, now it's more like: ok build new then but not here where I live.

In Inner City Stockholm there actually has been a prescribed height for buildings for long time. So unlike most cities over 90% are the exact same hight, but there's been plenty of exeptions throughout the years. That doesn't stop people from refering to this as the one height that everything should be when a tall plan is announced.
Mainly it is, like Bosco said (what's up with that name anyway? real name or from 3rd watch or what?), a matter of mentality. Not that there aren't thousands who want to live in tall buildings and in neighbourhoods with tall buildings, because there are, but the mainstream isn't there.

just a question how come a lot of the Swedish residential apartments don't seem to go any higher than 6 storeys, are there height restrictions of some sort?

Sweden = Nimbyland. :)

It's mainly because Sweden is quite far up north with low sun most time of the year. The further south in Europe you go, the higher the buildings. It's the single most important factor I'd say. Then we had a really bad period in Swedish architecture in the 60s when a lot of ugly and poor residential areas was built with highrises. That backfired in the 70s and architecture here became very small-scale.

just a question how come a lot of the Swedish residential apartments don't seem to go any higher than 6 storeys, are there height restrictions of some sort?

At the moment the new "infill" areas in the central Stockholm like Årstadal, Nordvästra Kungsholmen etc the grammar is seven (actually six plus one, the highest is withdrawn from the facade a few meters to let more sun reach the streets/backyards) stories in general, and eight stories against open water/parks or broad boulevards etc. In for example Barcelona where the sun i brighter and the streets are wider the "grammar" is eight plus two strories.
In other (smaller) cities in Sweden I believe they build one or two stories smaller. Note that I'm discussing dense central areas. In the suburbs I'ts different due to the age and the present structor of the suburb.

^^Norra station being the exception with its 10-floor minimum-rule + a number of 14floorers and a couple of 80m+ (according to the current plans).

^^Norra station being the exception with its 10-floor minimum-rule + a number of 14floorers and a couple of 80m+ (according to the current plans).

True, the current plan is very dense, I doubt it will go throu the zoneplanning process whitout being changed. My personal idea about the high development for the current plan is that the city need all the money they can get (they will get paid per m2 apartments of the developer) to have afford with the very expensive costs for the infrastructure works (digging down the E4 and the railwaytracks) that are needed for the development of this area.
Anyway, I like the plan. But It's very different from everything else built in Stockholm.

hopefully more people will admire the beauty of the turning torso.It d look really nice if Malmo turned into a city of skyscrapers.But at the same time I suppose keeping shorter buildings retains that European lane way feel.

I didn't think of the fact that there would be less light in northern Europe. Come to think of it Brisbane(Australia) receive too much sun light and they just eliminated height restrictions to provide more shade from large buildings ,totally the opposite of sweden

Does anyone have any renderings of this project:

http://www.dn.se/DNet/jsp/polopoly.jsp?d=2683&a=707481&rss=2733

Does anyone have any renderings of this project:

http://www.dn.se/DNet/jsp/polopoly.jsp?d=2683&a=707481&rss=2733

It must be the construction that will be on the location where "folkan" is now.
It is to be demolished (the building is in a horrible shape apparently and beyond repair).
http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folkan

The "folkan" building is the yellow building to the left:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/13/%C3%96stermalmstorg_Stockholm_nordost_20060509.jpg/800px-%C3%96stermalmstorg_Stockholm_nordost_20060509.jpg

A bit old but thought it might be worth to b´post it anyway, Double tracks on one of the city's classic trams/railways (or whatever I should call it.

Dubbelspår på Roslagsbanan
[2007-10-01] Styrelsen har gett SL i uppdrag att påbörja planering av utbyggnad till dubbelspår på Roslagsbanan.

Dagens enkelspår gör trafiken känslig för störningar och leder till en för resenärerna svårbegriplig tidtabell där tågen olika timmar avgår vid olika minuttal.

På sikt bör Roslagsbanan byggas ut till fullt dubbelspår, men för att möjliggöra en successiv förbättring av trafiken med jämn 15-minuterstrafik, planerar SL att, i en första etapp, bygga dubbelspår på vissa delar av sträckan.

Kostnaden för den första etappen uppskattas i dagsläget till 500-600 miljoner kronor. Styrelsen har gett SL i uppdrag att revidera tidsplanen i syfte att skynda på utbyggnaden.

I'd call it Narrow-Gauge Suburban Rail. Or NGSR for short :D;) Doubble-tracking it and also getting modern viechles would be great. I'd also, of course, densify alot at most stops.

Narrow Gauge is probably enough :) . . but new viechles i dont think we are going to see, the once they have now is from the 80s and thats still brand new for SL.

Before the "new" once got there we even had carts from the early 1900 in traffic! so the blue ugly once are brand new :)

yuck! early/mid 80s rail is so ugly. Some styles work forever, some get tired and oooold after just 20 years. Didn't know they were so new. I woulda guessed 60s. 80s cars = not up for replacement for another 20 years probably - so maybe about when they're half-way done double-tracking Roslagsbanan :P

meh. here are some pics i took yesterday, i havnt been able to post them earlier since my geeky brother hogs the net cable to play wow :shrugs:

idk the names of the projects and i am too tired to look them up

a big part of the rålambs area is not visible in the pic, and they were blasting there yesterday... even of the other side of the freeway/subway

rålambs
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/1629/ralambstk6.jpg
http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/8599/ralambs1gy4.jpg

kungsbro
http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/1863/kungsqz0.jpg
http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/7295/kungs1tp7.jpg

hotel
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/2999/hotelloa2.jpg

just a question how come a lot of the Swedish residential apartments don't seem to go any higher than 6 storeys, are there height restrictions of some sort?It's called the stockholm syndrome and it's unfournatley the same for most cities in europe :(

Since the royal family doesn't use the royal palace much anymore,they should turn it into condos,great location,very central....bet you'd get a great price.

They have an article in Metro today about the new residential areas in Stockholm. Stadsbyggnadskontoret is searching for spots to build highrises. 2 highrises may be built in Kista:

– När det gäller höga hus håller vi på och jobbar med att hitta lägen. Vi hoppas att vi har två på gång i Kista, till exempel.
– Vi tror att Stockholm kan få flera lägen där höga hus är både möjliga och önskvärda.

Magnus Andersson, avdelningschef på stadsbyggnadskontoret.



Here's the article (http://www.metro.se/se/article/2007/10/23/22/0232-42/index.xml)

As far as I understand the reasons why there isn't much high rises in Stockholm (as well as many other European cities) is:

* The city growth in Europe occurred during the 19th century before it was technically possible to build skyscrapers.

* The city growth has (unlikely i.e. America) occurred in the satellite cities instead of in the downtown. Stockholm is right now one of the 3 most expanding cities in Europe (population wise) but we don't build new high rises in the Downtown. We instead extend the borders of the downtown.

* Europeans have been concerned of the aesthetics ("Don't be in the way of the churches").

* Europeans where concerned of the fire safety during the first skyscraper boom in America.

* Sweden where in a economical depression when the most skyscrapers where built before WW2.

* The few skyscrapers that have been built in Sweden has been so ugly that they have given Skyscrapers a bad reputation in Sweden.

* It's usually economically more beneficial to build low buildings. You need more space for elevators, stairs and pillars in high rises. It takes longer time to build skyscrapers and therefore you have to wait longer for the revenue.

As far as I understand the reasons why there isn't much high rises in Stockholm (as well as many other European cities) is:

* The city growth in Europe occurred during the 19th century before it was technically possible to build skyscrapers.

* The city growth has (unlikely i.e. America) occurred in the satellite cities instead of in the downtown. Stockholm is right now one of the 3 most expanding cities in Europe (population wise) but we don't build new high rises in the Downtown. We instead extend the borders of the downtown.

* Europeans have been concerned of the aesthetics ("Don't be in the way of the churches").

* Europeans where concerned of the fire safety during the first skyscraper boom in America.

* Sweden where in a economical depression when the most skyscrapers where built before WW2.

* The few skyscrapers that have been built in Sweden has been so ugly that they have given Skyscrapers a bad reputation in Sweden.

* It's usually economically more beneficial to build low buildings. You need more space for elevators, stairs and pillars in high rises. It takes longer time to build skyscrapers and therefore you have to wait longer for the revenue.

And I also read yesterday that in Bromma they can´t build higher than 16 floors because of the airport, that's why the new highrise in brommaplan isn't going to be higher although they wanted to.
Bromma is quite big, so I suppose what they meant was in the area not so far from the airport.

...and there have been many discussions about the shadows of the high rises as well as the problem "How can the parents take care of there children when they play at the play ground at the same time as the parents cook the food 20 stairs up".

...and there have been many discussions about the shadows of the high rises as well as the problem "How can the parents take care of there children when they play at the play ground at the same time as the parents cook the food 20 stairs up".

:lol: :lol: :lol:

But I've read that that problem is going to be solved at Norra Station, they are going to build the playgrounds on the roofs, but then the problem is going to be opposite if you live on one of the first floors I suppose :lol:

the hotel (i think it is a hotel??) over drottningholmsvägen is going up quite fast . . is there any good information about that project?? im no friend of stockholm.se so didnt find anything before i gave up :)

the hotel (i think it is a hotel??) over drottningholmsvägen is going up quite fast . . is there any good information about that project?? im no friend of stockholm.se so didnt find anything before i gave up :)
Yeah... But the hotel part isn't under construction yet, just the residential. Though it should start pretty soon. The covering of Drottningsholmsvägen has begun too, I think they're doing it in the order shown on the picture below.

http://www.stockholm.se/Extern/Templates/Page.aspx?id=87679
http://planer.sbk.stockholm.se/SBKPlanTemplates/SBKPlanView____7115.aspx
http://www.skanska.se/skanska_site/templates/UtvaltProjekt____3136.aspx
http://www.dn.se/DNet/jsp/polopoly.jsp?d=1298&a=626525&rss=2239 <- from a genus perspective

http://www.skanska.se/files/graphics/img_news/projekt/situationsplan.gif

Oh, and this is big news!
E-type leaves the beauty council!!! (http://www.dn.se/DNet/jsp/polopoly.jsp?d=1298&a=708249)

uGyfAXo5mWs

No! E-type was a good additioni to Skönhetsrådet. A fresh point of view. Ah, at least he'll be in Melodifastivalen next year: let's show Europe how real eurodance is done!

Havn't been by that ^^ site in like 6 months. So it's time to check it out again :)

a little interview with the guy taking e-types place

http://www.dn.se/DNet/jsp/polopoly.jsp?d=1298&a=708269

a little interview with the guy taking e-types place

http://www.dn.se/DNet/jsp/polopoly.jsp?d=1298&a=708269

"Man får inte vara så skitnödig inför förändringar"
Oh yes, so true. Thank you!

my server is back up so here comes some updates :) . .

more info: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...=359858&page=4

if you have Google Earth installed you can click here (http://www.gosatta.org/earth/svea torn.kmz) to see the location.

construction pictures from 2007-10-24

http://www.gosatta.org/gallery/buildings/Choice%20Hotel/photos/photo115.jpg

http://www.gosatta.org/gallery/buildings/Choice%20Hotel/photos/photo119.jpg

http://www.gosatta.org/gallery/buildings/Choice%20Hotel/photos/photo120.jpg

http://www.gosatta.org/gallery/buildings/Choice%20Hotel/photos/photo122.jpg

@WK: Nice update! Great to see progress in the kungsholmen area! :)

this is a building just next to banhusbron thats just popped up in like a week or two

http://www.gosatta.org/gallery/buildings/torsgatan/photos/photo1.jpg

http://www.gosatta.org/gallery/buildings/torsgatan/photos/photo3.jpg

http://www.gosatta.org/gallery/buildings/torsgatan/photos/photo4.jpg

http://www.gosatta.org/gallery/buildings/torsgatan/photos/photo5.jpg

[QUOTE=GoSatta;16080504]
construction pictures from 2007-10-24

http://www.gosatta.org/gallery/buildings/Choice%20Hotel/photos/photo115.jpg

http://www.gosatta.org/gallery/buildings/Choice%20Hotel/photos/photo119.jpg

Thanks for the update!
I actually have begun to like the backside of the hotel much more than I used to when i first saw it, looks quite good and very modern for Stockholm, and on the second photo the building to the right of the hotel is that svenska bostäders residental building?

@WK: Nice update! Great to see progress in the kungsholmen area! :)

Yeah it's nice but it's not on Kungsholmen ;)

Name : Kungsbron
Owner : NCC
Project descriptions : Office building
Starts : 2007
Finnish : 2009

construction pictures from 2007-10-24

http://www.gosatta.org/gallery/buildings/kungsbron/photos/photo11.jpg

http://www.gosatta.org/gallery/buildings/kungsbron/photos/photo12.jpg

http://www.gosatta.org/gallery/buildings/kungsbron/photos/photo13.jpg

Yeah it's nice but it's not on Kungsholmen ;)

ofcource it is?? :) its thorhildsplan . . thats kungsholmen :) (or close buy thoridls anyway :) )

ofcource it is?? :) its thorhildsplan . . thats kungsholmen :) (or close buy thoridls anyway :) )

Are we talking about the same thing? About the pictures of the hotel at Norra Bantorget? Or have you gone crazy? :)

Name : Svea Torn
Owner : Vasakronan AB
Project descriptions : 16 Storey Residencial 70 apartments
Location : Svea Artilleri, Nedre Gärdet, Östermalm, Stockholm
Starts : 2005
Finnish : 2007

if you have Google Earth installed you can click here (http://www.gosatta.org/earth/svea torn.kmz) to see the location.

its almost done now :) . .the topflor has just started t0o get there balconies so it will SOOOOOOON be done ;) . .

construction pictures from 2007-10-24

http://www.gosatta.org/gallery/buildings/sveatorn/photos/photo147.jpg

http://www.gosatta.org/gallery/buildings/sveatorn/photos/photo148.jpg

http://www.gosatta.org/gallery/buildings/sveatorn/photos/photo149.jpg

Are we talking about the same thing? About the pictures of the hotel at Norra Bantorget? Or have you gone crazy? :)

nope im not crazy but he said WK: before and he posted the pics from kungsholmen ;) . . my post just got in the way :)

nope im not crazy but he said WK: before and he posted the pics from kungsholmen ;) . . my post just got in the way :)

Ok that explains it, I thought everyone had lost it! :lol:

Edit: thanks for the photos I really appreciate it when photos are being taken of projects, it's great fun!

^^No it's Brommaplan I think.... Or perhaps Ekerö centrum... Or perhaps Djurgården?

^^No it's Brommaplan I think.... Or perhaps Ekerö centrum... Or perhaps Djurgården?

but you lost it for real??? :)

Aaaah now I see! It's Arlanda Airport!!!

Aaaah now I see! It's Arlanda Airport!!!

High time you get new specticles!

[QUOTE=GoSatta;16080504]
construction pictures from 2007-10-24


Thanks for the update!
I actually have begun to like the backside of the hotel much more than I used to when i first saw it, looks quite good and very modern for Stockholm, and on the second photo the building to the right of the hotel is that svenska bostäders residental building?

Yes its recidential. . .. and i must agree with you . .the backside is a bit special . . and i like it aswell :)

Yeah it's nice but it's not on Kungsholmen ;)

Edit: GoSatta clearified! ;) BTW, awesome updates GoSatta! :D

Yeah it's nice but it's not on Kungsholmen ;)
Note, that he's talking to Wolkenkrabber. :)

Is it known who the architects are behind the proposals for the Stockholm public library?
When watching the video of the Book Hill proposal it looks a bit like "snöhetta" and something about it reminds me of the new Oslo Opera House.


http://www.arkitekt.se/s31510/f4960

http://www.arkitekt.se/s31512/f4962

Note, that he's talking to Wolkenkrabber. :)

Yeah I know now, I didn´t understand what @WK ment, but I do now, I'll never forget what @Wk means now! :lol:

Yeah I know now, I didn´t understand what @WK ment, but I do now, I'll never forget what @Wk means now! :lol:

Haha! :D

Cheers! :cheers:

Look what i found! :D

A 19 st highrise residential in Hässelby.

http://www.nyahem.skanska.se/rdn_files/projects/Hässelby%20Strand/P8%20673x307/lambarön_403x307.jpg

this is a building just next to banhusbron thats just popped up in like a week or two

http://www.gosatta.org/gallery/buildings/torsgatan/photos/photo1.jpg

http://www.gosatta.org/gallery/buildings/torsgatan/photos/photo3.jpg

http://www.gosatta.org/gallery/buildings/torsgatan/photos/photo4.jpg

http://www.gosatta.org/gallery/buildings/torsgatan/photos/photo5.jpg
Absolutely hideous (at least when seen from the pendeltåg right next to it) -- it is like a million program building, only thinner. Please tell me they'll be doing something to the facade...

Av alla sjuka lagar och nimbys i Sverige fick detta mig att gå i taket! Jävla kommunistland man lever i......

http://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/article1086292.ab

^Why? If the city ok's one thing you can't build another! Exactly the type of thing that must be stopped and torn down. The judgment is perfect IMO. Tear it down and pay a fine.
If you wanna build A, don't get permits for B. sheesh.

And no, this is in no way communist. In fact, the opposite is! In a dictatorship the ruling class get whatever they want, but in democracies like Sweden and, say, the US if you build something you're not allowed to you'll get told to knock it down even if you are a mighty politician.

^Why? If the city ok's one thing you can't build another! Exactly the type of thing that must be stopped and torn down. The judgment is perfect IMO. Tear it down and pay a fine.
If you wanna build A, don't get permits for B. sheesh.

And no, this is in no way communist. In fact, the opposite is! In a dictatorship the ruling class get whatever they want, but in democracies like Sweden and, say, the US if you build something you're not allowed to you'll get told to knock it down even if you are a mighty politician.Tror snarare det handlar om att hon ej skulle få tillstånd att bygga detta hus.. Den var helt enkelt för spektakulär. Jag har bott i USA och kan garantera dej att det finns betydligt mer spektakulära och häftigare byggnader där. Gå in på New york-delen av forumet så kommer du se...

Att hon ej tillåts bygga et sånt hus i skogen är fan konstigt asså.

Tror snarare det handlar om att hon ej skulle få tillstånd att bygga detta hus.. Den var helt enkelt för spektakulär. Jag har bott i USA och kan garantera dej att det finns betydligt mer spektakulära och häftigare byggnader där. Gå in på New york-delen av forumet så kommer du se...

Att hon ej tillåts bygga et sånt hus i skogen är fan konstigt asså.


I answer in English... Yes but there is always a Detailed development plan (Detaljplan) that specifies what the limits are. Otherwise a property holder could build a highrise in a villa neighbourhood. Of course she knew exactly what it said but sometimes some people try to stretch the rules. I'm sure that happens in the US too. She should have bought a bigger plot from the start, the plan architects have decided the limits for a reason, the houses should not look too big in the setting and together with he other houses.

But I liked her house, I'm sure they have plenty of plots she could have bought instead. The thing is that they are probably a little more expensive...

Sensitive people should not read SvD today. They rave on abouth both Slussen AND the Library...

We got some nimby movement detected at Gärdet:
These guys have put up notes on billboards talking about how horrible it is that they plan to build houses at "Husarviken".

http://www.dlv.se/

This is husarviken:

http://www.dlv.se/bilder/huLVSegel.jpg

Seriously. Who gives a shit about an area like that?

And of course, the default argument. Height. Its horrible that they plan to build 5-7 floors high.

I wonder in what way we are supposed to think 3 floors would be better?

http://www.kista.com/gallery2/gallery/d/11191-1/Kistam__ssan.JPG
Damn you lucky bastards. :D I want one.

Previously unknown rests of houses from the 14th century found in the Old town of Stockholm when digging in the ground at Slottsbacken.


http://www.svd.se/stockholm/nyheter/artikel_528823.svd

I answer in English... Yes but there is always a Detailed development plan (Detaljplan) that specifies what the limits are. Otherwise a property holder could build a highrise in a villa neighbourhood. Of course she knew exactly what it said but sometimes some people try to stretch the rules. I'm sure that happens in the US too. She should have bought a bigger plot from the start, the plan architects have decided the limits for a reason, the houses should not look too big in the setting and together with he other houses.

But I liked her house, I'm sure they have plenty of plots she could have bought instead. The thing is that they are probably a little more expensive...
Herre gud. Huset ligger i en skog, och har du emot ett sånt hus så finns det ett ord för dig. Nimby, kan man inte bygga ett 3våningar högt hus undrar jag hur man ska kunna bygga skyskrapor i Sverige? Mycket lustigt ärligt talat ditt resonemang är.

who cares about how the house look? she built it BEFORE she got the permit (ore HOPED that she wold get the permit :) ),.. tuff luck :)

who cares about how the house look? she built it BEFORE she got the permit (ore HOPED that she wold get the permit :) ),.. tuff luck :)

I have to go with GoSatta on this one.
It's the rules about what you can build and where that is a problem.
Not the rule that you have to seek a permit before you build something.

Herre gud. Huset ligger i en skog, och har du emot ett sånt hus så finns det ett ord för dig. Nimby, kan man inte bygga ett 3våningar högt hus undrar jag hur man ska kunna bygga skyskrapor i Sverige? Mycket lustigt ärligt talat ditt resonemang är.

Que? Jag har inget emot huset. Du förstår tydligen inte vad som är problematiken i den där historien.

As mentioned earlier: it would be fun to see some u/c-updates from kungsholmen. From school I see cranes popping up constantly.

Que? Jag har inget emot huset. Du förstår tydligen inte vad som är problematiken i den där historien.
Jag vet inte hur det är i Göteborg. Men i Stcokholm är detta ett exmepl på hur svårt det är att bygga innovativa hus i länet. Kista science tower var ett under att det byggdes, ett sånt hus i stan skulle vara helt obefintligt. Samma gäller detta villa hus, istället för att ge henne böter tvingas hon riva, och riva tvingas hon inte göra som straff utan för att kommunen ej tyckte huset passade in i samhällsbyggnaden. Passar o vara kaxig o bo i göteborg, men seriöst? Nämn en spektakulär byggnad som byggts i Göteborg de senaste åren? Inte mkt.

^ Håll käft och väx upp!

In other news: The tunnelbana to Nacka is going to be delayed untill 2020! :(

Nacka får vänta på t-bana

Tvärspårväg ost från Hammarby sjöstad till Slussen byggs inom några år. Tunnelbanan till Nacka får vänta i åtminstone 15 år. Så blir utbyggnaden av kollektivtrafik till snabbväxande Nacka och Värmdö.

Regeringens förhandlingsman Carl Cederschiöld ska lägga fram sitt förslag till framtida väg- och spårnät i Stockholmsregionen för regeringen senast den 1 december. Sedan ska regeringen lägga sin trafikpolitiska proposition i februari-mars. Hur många storsatsningar som finns med i den får framtiden utvisa.

Redan nu står det ganska klart hur prioriteringarna i utbyggnaden av kollektivtrafiken kommer att se ut från regionens sida. De stora satsningarna med byggstart före 2011 blir Citybanan, Tvärspårväg ost med hopkoppling av Saltsjöbanan och trafikapparaten Danviks lösen, tvärspårvägen till Solna och utbyggnad av fyra järnvägsspår mellan Kallhäll och Barkarby. Det här betyder att en ny bussterminal vid Slussen och den förlängda tvärspårvägen blir de första stora investeringarna i förbättrad kollektivtrafik mot Nacka och Värmdö.

- Vi måste göra saker och ting i en viss ordning. Vi kan därför inte spendera många miljarder på en tunnelbana till Nacka samtidigt som vi bygger tvärspårväg och bussterminal, säger landstingsrådet Christer G Wennerholm (m).

SL-styrelsen slog vid sitt senaste möte fast att det finns en rad angelägna och kostsamma investeringar i kollektivtrafik som kommer före en tunnelbana till Nacka. SL:s tjänstemän ska nu på nytt utreda hur kapaciteten i ostsektorn ska förstärkas.

Kommunalrådet Erik Langby (m) i Nacka, som gärna ser en tunnelbana så snabbt som möjligt, är inte särskild nedstämd över att den i de nya planerna dröjer till efter 2020.

- Jag vill förstås ha utbyggnader till Nacka så fort som möjligt. Men samtidigt vore det orimligt att bygga tvärspårvägen och tunnelbanan samtidigt, konstaterar Erik Langby.

Han är inte orolig för att SL-styrelsen och andra ansvariga i väntan på tunnelbanan ska komma på att det är billigare att förlänga tvärspårvägen eller att bygga någon form av spårtaxisystem.

- Nej. Styrkan med tunnelbanan är ju att den också avlastar den trånga sträckan mellan Slussen och T-centralen. Det gör inget annat system, säger Erik Langby.

En osäker del i Cederschiölds förhandlingar och satsningarna på infrastruktur är frågan om näringslivets medverkan. Minst två av de planerade utbyggnaderna - tvärbanorna från Alvik till Solna respektive Kista - blir med all sannolikhet finansierade av näringslivet mot framtida ersättning från samhället.

Source: http://www.dn.se/DNet/jsp/polopoly.jsp?d=1298&a=709510

^ Håll käft och väx upp!
Not acceptable. Cease and desist with that type of language. Keep it civil. That goes for all, and let's move on already, this tangent brings nothing to the thread.

In other news: The tunnelbana to Nacka is going to be delayed untill 2020! :(
Source: http://www.dn.se/DNet/jsp/polopoly.jsp?d=1298&a=709510
I'm not one bit suprised. The Blue line south has been a 'future plan' for 30+ years, and with all the already decided projects going ahead, the cost can't be taken now. If all the projects in the article (and the "faktaruta" linked to it) are built on schedule I'll consider Stockholm well ahead of the game.

^Sry. But i hate it when people are rude like Parzival was towards Svempa...

^Sry. But i hate it when people are rude like Parzival was towards Svempa...

I Second that.

^Sry. But i hate it when people are rude like Parzival was towards Svempa...
You being rude back does in no way make anything better. Seriously guys, both are at fault, now let's move on.

Here's a pic of how Kista may look like.

http://www.kista-galleria.se/kista/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/kista_modell.jpg

http://www.kista-galleria.se/kista/

Tekniska nämndhuset (500 m from the central train station) will be rebuilt by Wingårdh. The project will include a 10 or 22 storeys high building next to the water.

http://www.fastighetsaktien.se/images/stories/Arkitektur/tn.jpg
http://www.fastighetsaktien.se/images/stories/Arkitektur/tninne.jpg
http://www.fastighetsaktien.se/content/blogcategory/0/39/

ofcource it will be the 10 storey option :) . . but never thought about that location, a taller house wold look good there.. go 22!!

That Kista model is in the lobby of Kista Science Tower, and is NOT beong kept updated (as evidenced by the KRT still being in it).

Exanding Tekniska Nämdhuset, if needed, is a good thing :) going for a tall one will meet some fierce opposition from the "Bullerbyn" crowd, and the design looks... meh. I'd much prefer a clean box than that look. Also, 35 appartments in the taller (22s) option? wtf? luxury as hell. Everything else mentioned in the link sounds good.

Would you look at that.. just the fact that highrise proposals that central is popping up more often nowadays is a good sign IMO. Pleease build it!

Jag vet inte hur det är i Göteborg. Men i Stcokholm är detta ett exmepl på hur svårt det är att bygga innovativa hus i länet. Kista science tower var ett under att det byggdes, ett sånt hus i stan skulle vara helt obefintligt. Samma gäller detta villa hus, istället för att ge henne böter tvingas hon riva, och riva tvingas hon inte göra som straff utan för att kommunen ej tyckte huset passade in i samhällsbyggnaden. Passar o vara kaxig o bo i göteborg, men seriöst? Nämn en spektakulär byggnad som byggts i Göteborg de senaste åren? Inte mkt.

Ledsen om du tyckte jag lät tyken. Men jag har jobbat på stadsbyggnadskontor och vet att man måste vara strikt när det gäller efterlevnaden av detaljplaner. Annars sätter folk i system att tänja på gränserna. Och då tappar folk förtroendet för myndigheten. Det som du diskuterar om innovativ arkitektur osv. känns som en helt annan diskussion. Men visst, kanske det görs för snåla planer i Stockholm, vad vet jag.

The Hornstull regeneration: http://www.hornstorg.se/ :colgate:

http://www.aftonbladet.se/stockholm/article1117976.ab

it will make you laugh

^^ While Aftonbladet has their own ridicilous definition of skyscraper, the news is still good!

And the web-vote results are here (http://wwwc.aftonbladet.se/vss/special/storfragan/visa/0,1937,30014,00.html), so far so good. With nearly 3000 votes cast, it shouldn't change more than a % or two from now on.

I like this bit:
I Kista planeras två höghus på 30 respektive 16 våningar i varsin ände av Kista Galleria. Inom några dagar ska även en 41 våningar hög hotellbyggnad i Kistagången tas upp i stadsbyggnadsnämnden.
One end of Kista Galleria already has KST, the other end is the (still empty) KRT site. Don't think the writer understands what's going on that well. Cool that Scandic Kista is up for approval so soon. Personally I'd give it a 95% chance of getting the go-ahead.

lol...
i thought they was gonna build a 161-floor skyscraper, not skyscraperS with a total of 161-floors together.. -.-

"Nu ska staden växa på höjden igen"

http://www.dn.se/DNet/jsp/polopoly.jsp?d=1298&a=710632

:) A lot of good vibes, but nothing really new except for this render:
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z270/mansakuini/City-Tekniskanmdhuset.jpg

"Nu ska staden växa på höjden igen"

http://www.dn.se/DNet/jsp/polopoly.jsp?d=1298&a=710632
This article gives me good vibes! :cheers:

Just curious... how can a 12-storey highrise be 85 metres? That´s about 7m per floor which is double the standard of an office-building.
By the looks of the render i´d say it´s about 20 floors which is to be considered normal.

^^ I guess they meant 22. 85m and 12fl doesn't quite add up for me. :) In other words.... Build, build, build!!

The best news about the article is that they want to build new high rises in Marieberg. If they do...it will be Swedens first cluster of skyscrapers. That they build highrises spread out in the city is ok... but boxy highrises like these usually doesn't look good until they are clustered.

Just curious... how can a 12-storey highrise be 85 metres? That´s about 7m per floor which is double the standard of an office-building.
By the looks of the render i´d say it´s about 20 floors which is to be considered normal.
Could be they're just counting the top section (if you see what I mean). That bit is 12s tall and maybe that's the whole hotel and the other bits aren't part of the hotel but rather offices or appartments. Iirc that building was mentioned a page ago in this thread as an appartment building with just 40 appartments or so...


One thing to note about the article is that they give the height of KST as 117.2m while the builders/owners keep saying something taller. 117.2 is a figure first found by me :D and confirmed by AtlanticaC5 from the elevation-drawings of the building (availible on-line) :D:D

^^ Yay, we rule :banana:

Anyways, nice to see an article with some positive talk about highrises in Stockholm. Now over 6600 persons have voted on the online-question, and 70% say the highrises don't ruin the city (I mean, how could they?? :)) And a cluster in Kista would be soo sweet

:) A lot of good vibes, but nothing really new except for this render:
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z270/mansakuini/City-Tekniskanmdhuset.jpg


Sandell/Sandberg also has a highrise on that location or perhaps it's just next to it, it can be found on their site.

http://www.aftonbladet.se/stockholm/article1117976.ab

it will make you laugh

Just nu finns tolv skyskrapor inom Stockholms stads gränser inplanerade.

*roflmao*
To my knowledge NONE is planned. We got one planned in Kista though.
Ah how ridiculous...

I like all the HIGHRISES that are planned though... :)

BUT in the swedish language a highrise IS a "skyskrapa" dont ask me why but that is the way it is :) . . acording to saob its somthing like "a building that is significant taller then the surounding once" or somthing like that

(sorry about the spelling but im drunk ;) )

yes wikipedia is not the best source but just look at the diffrenes.

Skyskrapa enligt Wikiopedia.org:
A skyscraper is a very tall, continuously habitable building. although there is no official definition, a height of approximately at least 150 metres or 500 feet is often used as a criterion for a building to qualify as a skyscraper. Other criteria like shape and appearance also affect whether or not a building
is considered a skyscraper.

skyskrapa enligt sv.wikipedia.org:
byggnad (höghus) som reser sig märkbart över omgivningen. ordet syftar på att byggnaden tycks så hög att den "skrapar vid skyn" och myntades först på engelska (skyscraper). För statistik brukar den internationella definitionen av vad som är en skyskrapa vara att den ska vara minst 35 meter hög och ha minst 12 våningar. Därmed diskvalificeras många höga byggnader som katedraler, radiomaster och torn

ps.
thats a old quote from wiki, its change a bit now but not mutch
ds.

(sorry about the spelling but im drunk ;) )

Cheers! :P

A couple of night pics of Kungsbrohuset... (sry for the bad quality)

http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/7122/281007040kt4.jpg

http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/5707/281007047sk2.jpg

http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/5381/281007046it8.jpg
What is this? Some kind of preparation work for citybanan?

one work tunnel is going to be some where along torsgatan, but this one feels a bit far away .. i thougt it was going to be some where between the new hotel and banhusbron .. but thats only a guess..

Hötorgsskraporna will be coloured red...

http://www.svd.se/multimedia/dynamic/00242/skyskrapa_140_2_242857r.jpg

...this winter if the Stockholmers are happy, blue if we are sad and green if we are neither sad or happy. You can read more about it here (http://www.emotionalcities.com/). Everyone can go to the site and "vote" if you are happy or not. The median of how the visitors of the site vote every day will be shown by a colour on the buildings. Funny project!

Here's a picture of how it looks right now:
http://extra.expressen.se/citycam/city.jpg

Yay. A NIMBY got selected as "Stockholmer of the month" by the readers of "City":
http://www.city.se/Nyheter/1.906280/stranderna-kan-ta-slut

This is one sad excuse of a city...

Another post at yimby.se:
http://www.yimby.se/2007/11/nimby-vald-till-manadens-_367.html

^^ Nice reply on that article khaan!

Did anyone else see the renderings of the Kista Galleria towers in 'City' today? Me like!! One 16 and one 30 fl, both veeery nice and slim! :banana:

I haven't seen any pictures of it. Please post them here if you find them. Did the 30 stories building look like the old rendering below:

http://insyn.stockholm.se/mark/document/2006-08-31/Dagordning/18/Images/image005.gif

^^Here's the article:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2275/1822949073_b5b712b9d1_o.jpg

So I'm guessing the rendering you posted first is an old one? /lower mid-rise

While it is good that something is going up on that site and 30s ain't bad at all, it IS way less than the old KRT proposal which was 42s. That one looked better too IMO. Construction start in 2009 sounds pretty good too, so it will probably start going up while the Scandic tower is still u/c. That this(/these) one(s) is(/are) a bit further off means the plans are much less set and just like with the Scandic the City might want it to go higher. There will be a public review process and that means we can write in and say it would be better if it were taller :)

I haven't seen any pictures of it. Please post them here if you find them. Did the 30 stories building look like the old rendering below:

http://insyn.stockholm.se/mark/document/2006-08-31/Dagordning/18/Images/image005.gif

Reminds me of the Trellick Tower in London. :D

http://www.artofthestate.co.uk/photos/trellick_tower_ladbroke_grove.jpg

Well, to me the small render looks better than the big one, but.. another 30fl tower, hell yeah! Finally it seems like Kista is coming out of the closet! :) Just imagine.. in a couple of years Kista could be hosting a new and fresh real skyline!

Really great news! :D Now things seem to go well for skyscrapers in sthlm! :D

Why Stockholm need to grow. Article in English:

http://www.thelocal.se/8939/

Read it! I like it.


"It's just a pity they couldn't find anything more recent than the Hötorg skyscrapers that were built in 1962."

"Stockholm can be considered a metropolis in many areas, from science and music to historic restoration and the business world. But if we really want Stockholm to be a world class city we have to keep up with the pace - or even take the lead - when it comes to architectural development."

I agree!!!

http://www.fastigheter.skanska.se/index____1015.aspx

Some new renders of the new office complex at norra bantorget. WHattaya guys think of the "stolen" name? :)

Why Stockholm need to grow. Article in English:

http://www.thelocal.se/8939/

Read it! I like it.


"It's just a pity they couldn't find anything more recent than the Hötorg skyscrapers that were built in 1962."

"Stockholm can be considered a metropolis in many areas, from science and music to historic restoration and the business world. But if we really want Stockholm to be a world class city we have to keep up with the pace - or even take the lead - when it comes to architectural development."

I agree!!!

That article is really spot on!

http://www.fastigheter.skanska.se/index____1015.aspx
Some new renders of the new office complex at norra bantorget. WHattaya guys think of the "stolen" name? :)
The name-stealing is lame. Yes, it's wedge-shaped. But that's where the similarities end. This new one will be forgotten by all who see it 'cuz it is boring. Also short. It is a non-entity, a space-filler.
But the best bit is....
They didn't even spell it right.
Flatiron Building is different from Flat Iron Building, one translates as Strykjärn(s)Byggnaden, the other as Platta Järnbyggnaden. FAIL.

That article is really spot on!
To bad that Kristina Axén Olin or any other Stockholm politician didn't wrote it

^^Lol maybe now she can, I sent the article to her :D

^^Lol maybe now she can, I sent the article to her :D

Good job Sims! she is already a skyscraper-fan tho but nevertheless :okay:

I like the opinions in the article:applause:

The name-stealing is lame. Yes, it's wedge-shaped. But that's where the similarities end. This new one will be forgotten by all who see it 'cuz it is boring. Also short. It is a non-entity, a space-filler.
But the best bit is....
They didn't even spell it right.
Flatiron Building is different from Flat Iron Building, one translates as Strykjärn(s)Byggnaden, the other as Platta Järnbyggnaden. FAIL.

I agree for the most part, except that I actually like the design. Yes it's too short, but the facade is really neat IMO. Why couldn't they have made it at least 10 floors or higher.. :/

Good article. I'm even beginning to think that Stockholm City could be a good place for some new scrapers. It's a pity though that Kungsbroskrapan is butt ugly. :lol:

http://www.fastigheter.skanska.se/index____1015.aspx

Some new renders of the new office complex at norra bantorget. WHattaya guys think of the "stolen" name? :)

i dont like the house at all!! it just looks boring, and about the name..,, please . .do we need more then one in stockholm, we already have kvarteret strykgärnet on södermalm.

BUT the buildings along torsgatan will make torsgatan feel alot more urban then the terrible "blåshål" we had before..

Sandell/Sandberg also has a highrise on that location or perhaps it's just next to it, it can be found on their site.Hur lyckas man bara få in 12 våningar om huset är 85 m högt??

/\ om man delar in ett hus i olika delar. t ex. en hotelldel (12v), en kontorsdel osv. :)

It's a pity though that Kungsbroskrapan is butt ugly. :lol:
I think it's pretty cool and innovative. But it shouldn't be built there in central Stockholm. I want it to be built in Kista...

/\ om man delar in ett hus i olika delar. t ex. en hotelldel (12v), en kontorsdel osv. :)
sounds weird...

It is a weird way to count things. But since when to media reports always make sense... ;)

I was just browsing throu the meeting protocol for next weeks SBN meeting and noticed that both the Scandic tower and the combined 16+30 story building in Kista was on the agenda. Only decision for public rewieving and starting PM but still hopfully a little bit closer to construction start.

new guy comming thru with the real info!
/welcome, and great start :)

lol, yeah welcome 11433. :)

3 new and of them 2 pretty tall highrises sounds great!

Why Stockholm need to grow. Article in English:

http://www.thelocal.se/8939/

Read it! I like it.


"It's just a pity they couldn't find anything more recent than the Hötorg skyscrapers that were built in 1962."

"Stockholm can be considered a metropolis in many areas, from science and music to historic restoration and the business world. But if we really want Stockholm to be a world class city we have to keep up with the pace - or even take the lead - when it comes to architectural development."

I agree!!!

So do i. A very spot-on article indeed.
I blogged it on yimby.se

I was just browsing throu the meeting protocol for next weeks SBN meeting and noticed that both the Scandic tower and the combined 16+30 story building in Kista was on the agenda. Only decision for public rewieving and starting PM but still hopfully a little bit closer to construction start.

I just had to look it up!

and there it was as # 7 (http://www2.sbk.stockholm.se/sifon_internet/sbk_dokument/slxibxxx.pdf), on the agenda for nov 6 meeting

Omr vid kv Danmark (Kista Torn), Kista 2007-36880-54
Startpromemoria för planarbete (ca 285 lgh, kulturhus/bibliotek)

The KST is my nice wiev when sitting by my PC. Took to many years before building it. But now there is many good news for us here in Kista

Another architect hoping for more daring and creative architecture in Stockholm:
http://www.aftonbladet.se/debatt/article1172879.ab

lookins good!

Another architect hoping for more daring and creative architecture in Stockholm:
http://www.aftonbladet.se/debatt/article1172879.ab

Nice! Blogged at yimby.se. And yes, I totally agree. I like the usage of the term "rigor mortis" which sort of pinpoints what's going on (or rather, what doesn't....)

New pictures of Klara Kongress have been released. White Architects will make it.

http://www.jarlam.se/index.html
http://www.jarlam.se/klara/media.html

http://www.jarlam.se/klara/images/kongress_stor.jpg
http://www.jarlam.se/klara/images/start_stor.jpg
http://www.jarlam.se/klara/images/kongress_bilder/bildremsa_lage_r1_c5.jpg
http://www.jarlam.se/klara/images/aktuellt_stor.jpg

is the "gold" part new?? been a while since i saw the renders. . but i like it . .

was somthing short about it on ABC yesterday , think it was that PEAB was going to build it or somthing . .

The golden part is where the congress hall for a audience of 3000 will house. I wonder if will look like that or if these pictures just show examples of how it could look like... I hope that it will get an organic shape in contrast to all the boxy buildings around.

Very, very cool! The highrises together with that piece of bold architecture.. Can't even imagine how much cooler this area will be compared to the current situation. :)

http://www.jarlam.se/klara/mediabilder/Fr%20Stadshuset.jpg

Lookin' good!

the congress hall feels very 1955 but I like it. Could have been better but also much much worse.

I agree with Safta in a way. I think an organic shape could compliment the boxy buildings in Klara quite nice. But also... when I see that rendering it strikes me that it doesn't look that big. I wonder if it will look good an signal that it's a major congress hall or if it will just look like somethink from a suburb square. Sampis post made me think of Vällingby etc.

Yes it made me think of Farsta

http://www.kjell.com/foretaget/farsta/images/exterior.jpg

im starting to like svea torn more and more. just went past it now (tobad i forgot the camera) and it looks realy good with the "crown" lit up. i get a bit of mainland china feel of from it :)

http://www.dn.se/DNet/jsp/polopoly.jsp?d=678&a=714061&rss=2733

http://www.dn.se/DNet/jsp/polopoly.jsp?d=678&a=714061&rss=2733
Hehe, read that, and I think it's silly when it has absolutely nothing to do with reality. It'd be much cooler if they built a copy of TT in Second life.

Got to be thankful to HSB for building something crazy like TT. They gambled with their brand and I'm not sure they actually have gained anything from building TT.

Got to be thankful to HSB for building something crazy like TT. They gambled with their brand and I'm not sure they actually have gained anything from building TT.

I´m pretty sure that in terms of public relations they have gained some grounds by building TT and will do so continuesly in the future... but Malmö has gained most from TT and should be ever so thankfull to HSB and most of all to Anders Nord who sacrificed his career at HSB to make TT come true.

I´m pretty sure that in terms of public relations they have gained some grounds by building TT and will do so continuesly in the future... but Malmö has gained most from TT and should be ever so thankfull to HSB and most of all to Anders Nord who sacrificed his career at HSB to make TT come true.

Well... in the future TT might become a good thing for HSB to be associated with. Today many people still remember it as project that nearly put HSB in bankruptcy. And that's not a very good reputation when trying to sell co-ops.

Well... in the future TT might become a good thing for HSB to be associated with. Today many people still remember it as project that nearly put HSB in bankruptcy. And that's not a very good reputation when trying to sell co-ops.

Short term = negative
Long term = positive

I think we can agree to that ;)

Have ya'll forgotten that we have separate threads for these cities? :)

haha true :) big brother Stockholm syndrome :)

No new update pictures from the area around Norra Bantorget from anyone? :mad:

Have ya'll forgotten that we have separate threads for these cities? :)

I´m sorry... but it looks like -Göteborg have invaded Malmö-thread anyway so it evens out in the end ;)

Short term = negative
Long term = positive

I think we can agree to that ;)

Agreed! :)

Update 3: Haga 4:35 Karolinska Science Park

Name : Karolinska Science Park
Owner : Akademiska Hus
Project descriptions : research buildings for Karolinska Institutet
Location : haga 4:35, haga, Solna
Starts : 2007
Finnish : 2009-08

http://www.akademiskahus.se/download.php?lDocsID=4616&strDB=aka

more info http://www.akademiskahus.se/index.php?id=487&lProjektID=170

construction pictures from 2007-11-12

http://www.gosatta.org/gallery/buildings/kcp/photos/photo6.jpg

http://www.gosatta.org/gallery/buildings/kcp/photos/photo7.jpg

I've been sneaking around and here's the latest news about Hammarbys new stadium.

* The new stadium will be announced with much pomp and splendour before christmas.
* It will cost about 125 million Euro (New National stadium 192 million Euro, Malmös new arena 65 million Euro, Gothenburgs new arena 30 million Euro)
* The capacity will be at least 30 000 (They want to host the European championships on the stadium so it has to have a capacity of at least 30 000)
* It will have a roof made of glass (Perhaps not a retractable)
* The field will have plastic lawn (But natural lawn if Sweden host the Euro games)
* Only one stand/etage (Not two stands above each other... do you understand what I mean?)
* The stadium will be built next to Globen.
* The stadium will be finnished 2011.

Sounds like a very good stadium to me!!

I've been sneaking around and here's the latest news about Hammarbys new stadium.

* The new stadium will be announced with much pomp and splendour before christmas.
* It will cost about 125 million Euro (New National stadium 192 million Euro, Malmös new arena 65 million Euro, Gothenburgs new arena 30 million Euro)
* The capacity will be at least 30 000 (They want to host the European championships on the stadium so it has to have a capacity of at least 30 000)
* It will have a roof made of glass (Perhaps not a retractable)
* The field will have plastic lawn (But natural lawn if Sweden host the Euro games)
* Only one stand/etage (Not two stands above each other... do you understand what I mean?)
* The stadium will be built next to Globen.
* The stadium will be finnished 2011.

Sounds like a very good stadium to me!!

Yes, sounds ok... :lol:
Congrats!

- Do you know how it will be financed?
- Is it really possible to have EURO games there? Isn't there a one venue per city limit?
- Where more exactly will it be placed? In Slakthusområdet? Or on the plot by Nynäsvägen?

Yes, sounds ok... :lol:
Congrats!

- Do you know how it will be financed?
- Is it really possible to have EURO games there? Isn't there a one venue per city limit?
- Where more exactly will it be placed? In Slakthusområdet? Or on the plot by Nynäsvägen?

This is pretty much the questions we still are waiting for to be answered. Are you sure about the 1 stadium/city policy? They used 2 stadiums in Porto and 2 in Lissbon during Euro 2004. Stockholm and Solna is by the way also juridically 2 different cities.

Hammarby have several times announced that they hope to host the Euro games. I hope they know what they are talking about.

Hi. Anyone interrested in the yimby site/thread should take a look in that thread. A journalist from the city newspaper has contacted me and wants to write an article.

Karolinska Science Park annoys me to no end. nice buildings - if they were out by Arlandastad or somewhere. But they're like 5m from where the Inner City will end after the big Karolinska area redevelopment. So had they been urban instead of suburban buildings, they would have been in the Inner City (in 20 years)!
great pics tho, excellent almost-aerial view :)

As for the new BajenStadion... I'll believe it when I see shovels in the ground. Same wuith Nya Råsunda. I've learned to be very sceptical and not get any hopes up til things are rising (I'm still trying to not get my hopes up about the tall ones at Liljeholmskajen, not u/c yet...)

Karolinska Science Park annoys me to no end. nice buildings - if they were out by Arlandastad or somewhere. But they're like 5m from where the Inner City will end after the big Karolinska area redevelopment. So had they been urban instead of suburban buildings, they would have been in the Inner City (in 20 years)!
great pics tho, excellent almost-aerial view :)


i agree about the "not so urban" part. but for me that lives there its a huuuuges improvment. after its finnsihed i dont have to look at the but ugly buildings behind it everytime i get close to my window :)

Yes, sounds ok... :lol:
Congrats!

- Do you know how it will be financed?
- Is it really possible to have EURO games there? Isn't there a one venue per city limit?
- Where more exactly will it be placed? In Slakthusområdet? Or on the plot by Nynäsvägen?

Nothing official, but it's probable that Hammarby's minority owner AEG (Anschutz Entertainment Group) will be financing the arena at least in part.

They invested in Hammarby in order to get a foothold in the Globen area, and now they've got it. They recently started a Stockholm office for their event company AEG Live and bought over some of EMA Telstar's key players, so it's obvious that the announcement is getting close.

The arena will be built by Nynäsvägen. Slakthusområdet would take another 5-10 years. Söderstadion will be torn down and replaced by offices. (high-rises, hopefully)

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Not much on Djurgården's arena plans lately. Do you know anything, Jonte? Might be difficult to get financing with two new arenas already being projected in the area.

The arena will be built by Nynäsvägen.
In Sandstuparken?

Hi. Anyone interrested in the yimby site/thread should take a look in that thread. A journalist from the city newspaper has contacted me and wants to write an article.
To bad it wasn't Svenska Dagbladet or DN but all publicity is good publicity :D

Not much on Djurgården's arena plans lately. Do you know anything, Jonte? Might be difficult to get financing with two new arenas already being projected in the area.

Tema architects and NCC is drawing a new proposal for a stadium on the "storängbotten" area. But there are some major issues regarding the diffrent proposed sites and getting premission to build. The plot on "storängsbotten" contains alot of mud wich will make construction really expensive, but the big problem is that the area is own by our king and has alot of weird restrictions of what you are allowed to build there. Proposals for Östermalms Ip and the one close to the silja terminal is more or less dead today.
Money is availible from the second we have a plot to build on.

^Thanks for the news! Is thier a site or article that i can read more about it? :)

Another quickie from norra bantorget:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2358/1995987255_140bf69bfb_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2235/1995986171_a39ed869f4_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2270/1996785600_354c03b391_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2285/1995991283_ded503c2b3_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2198/1996793314_2d39e7c0f6_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2015/1995990045_09d674537a_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2235/1995988437_abbcb67b65_o.jpg

Wow they're building very fast right now...

This is pretty much the questions we still are waiting for to be answered. Are you sure about the 1 stadium/city policy? They used 2 stadiums in Porto and 2 in Lissbon during Euro 2004. Stockholm and Solna is by the way also juridically 2 different cities.

Hammarby have several times announced that they hope to host the Euro games. I hope they know what they are talking about.

Yes, you are probably right. Maybe it is FIFA that has that limit.

I hope it will be built in Slakthusområdet. I really loved that rendering I saw where the stadium was surrounded by new housing/office quarters.

Yes, you are probably right. Maybe it is FIFA that has that limit.

I hope it will be built in Slakthusområdet. I really loved that rendering I saw where the stadium was surrounded by new housing/office quarters.

Stop dreaming; it won't be built there, but next to the hotel by Globen. Slakthusområdet will look even better behind the arena, with high-rises only, in ten years time than it would with the arena in the middle of it...

Stop dreaming; it won't be built there, but next to the hotel by Globen. Slakthusområdet will look even better behind the arena, with high-rises only, in ten years time than it would with the arena in the middle of it...

Yes you are right perhaps. Putting a big stadium in the middle is not ideal really.

Speaking of which;

the placement of the arena in Globenområdet is now official. The sale of the premises will be settled on Thursday:
http://www.insyn.stockholm.se/exploatering/document/2007-11-15/Dagordning/11/11.pdf